Knowledge Fight - #721: September 2, 2022
Episode Date: September 5, 2022Today, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex to see how he handled Biden's recent speech about MAGA people. Turns out he didn't take it well, and in response, he decided to spend his workday trying to mak...e his listeners really scared about a wide range of ideas. Dreamy Creamy Fundraiser
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. I'd like to sit around. We're supposed to put the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Oh, indeed we are. Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. Yeah. What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today, Jordan, isn't actually a bright spot, but it's sort of a ha ha ha.
All right. Okay. It's changing the rules of the game. It's right here. It is Fanta. Oh boy. I saw that they have a flavor called hashtag. What's the Fanta? What the Fanta? What the Fanta?
You can't name a flavor with a hashtag. That is, that's, I call foul. I just call foul. That might not actually be the name. It might be question mark because it says find clues.
Hashtag. What the Fanta? Oh my God. One of those drawn to these curious flavors. As we talked about on the last episode, Dreamland, Dream World Coke. Yeah. Also got a number of messages for people who are like, Hey, you got that space coke.
It's got to be at the store, right? I don't understand how you are a space coke dealer. What did that happen? Not going to happen. But yeah, I'm drawn to these things. Sure.
And you know, Fanta, you got like pineapple, orange, a lot of fruit flavors. Only thing I know about Fanta is the commercial from the early Fanta. That's the only thing. Yeah. I don't think I've ever had a Fanta.
Despite the commercial asking me if I want one. I do not. It's fruit. Yes. Right. All of them are fruit. Sure. So you're expecting fruit here. Naturally. I think it's cotton candy. You think it's cotton candy? I don't know.
You can't have that big of a heel turn. My friend candy. That was not a fruit. I can tell you that for sure. Yeah, I think it's cotton candy. What if it's cotton candy grapes? They taste like cotton candy and their grapes. That's a fruit.
That would be an interesting technicality. That would be an interesting technicality. All right. I'll put that down just because that helps. Okay. That makes my guess a little bit more sensible. Yeah.
Cotton candy grapes. Fanta. Cotton candy grapes. Fanta. Well done. Also, it's not good. No. Well, poorly done job. Fanta. Get your shit together. What's your bright spot?
You know, I didn't even want to necessarily tell you, but it begins with a T and ends with Ennis. Is this Serena? Well, I mean, that was a beautiful moment. I was going to give you a pass because of, you know, a monumental occasion.
It was. It was emotionally affected for Serena Williams to retire. Such a good match to one of the greats. Not one of the greats, the greatest. I think that I think that a good, I don't know enough about tennis to say, and I'm fully willing to agree with you.
I just think it's, as someone who knows nothing about the sport, I can definitely say one of the top players of all time. Yes. For sure. Yes. You are an expert. So I'll take your word on that. You do not need to wade into the end game argument of like, oh, is it Pippin or, yeah, yeah, I get you. I get what you're saying.
I just have feelings about Pete Sampras from my youth. What feelings? Memory. I have memory. I actually as a man with a substantial arm hair. I imagine that you do have a lot to go on with.
Sure. Yeah. Robin Williams, one of the great tennis players of all time. Absolutely. Why didn't he make a bio pic? All it takes to be good at tennis is arm hair apparently. Sampras. Robin Williams.
Sampras Adams. I like that. McEnroe. Yeah. He's still, he's still around. You know what? He narrates a TV show. Does he yell a bunch? No. It's just like a regular narration that is John McEnroe with no, like they just, it's never even addressed.
They're never like, hey, by the way, it's John McEnroe that is narrating. It's supposed to be Guy who yells things that he's known for. Exactly. That's his job, but whatever. You know what's crazy? What?
That House of Pain song jump around as a, it references John McEnroe.
Wow. That's not crazy. John McEnroe was the biggest thing in the world for a very short period of time.
I'm saying the time. Oh yeah. It was a long time ago. That was a long time. Anyway, I'm sorry. I've hijacked your bright spot. No, no, no. My bright spot is the US Open. It's great.
Yeah. How's it going? I really think this is one of the best ones I've seen in a long, long time. Like top to bottom, everybody is good.
Is that young kid you like doing well? Alcaraz? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's headed to the quarter finals, my man. He's crushing it. Rafa, of course, is crushing it.
Is the US Open taking place in San Francisco around the Bay? He is not. Alcaraz isn't going to Alcatraz.
No, but no, he's not dead. I already saw that coming from a mile away. Yeah. Or if it's San Francisco from 1400 miles away.
So where are they at in terms of the New York? No, I mean, like in terms of the finals, semifinals, where are we at? Today is the fourth round.
The final day of the fourth round. So before the fourth round is the quarter finals and then the semifinals. So the fourth round is the round of 16.
Okay. The round right before the quarter finals. Sweet 16. Tonight is probably going to be the best match of the entire tournament.
Kyrios versus Medvedev. Kyrios crushing it for the first time in his life. The president of Russia? No. Different Kyrios, different Medvedev.
Okay. But yeah, it's going to be a great one. I would love it if just to fuck with you, the US Open was still at like three in the morning.
Oh, man, that would be great. Awesome. That would be great. Same time as the French. Yeah, exactly. All tennis is set up at exactly the same time as they are at the French Open.
I just have a number of memories of you being like, I'm going to be up all night to watch this tennis. I woke up at 3am so I could be up until 4am tomorrow night.
In order to watch this at a bar, I have to go to the airport. That's true. That's true. I just assumed that that's what it's like to be a tennis fan.
You're always watching. A legal streams help. I could see that. I feel like a number of wrestling fans have the same sort of thing with like Japanese promotions, paper views and stuff.
You got to make sacrifices to love something, I guess. I guess. Yeah. So Jordan, today we're going to be talking about a present day episode. Okay.
We're checking back in because the bad signal went up. Something very important happened. That is that Biden gave that speech. What speech? I heard people talking about a speech that Biden gave.
I can't tell if you're joking. No, I mean, I know about the speech, but it's like, I just don't understand what people… Did you see the pictures of it? Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. I was going to say. Okay. Never mind. Yeah. That was it. I really thought that there were some speech part of it, but it's just the, it looks…
No, I actually, I mean, we can get into a little bit now and we'll get into more during the episode and such, but I think that the speech is either going to be historically incredibly relevant or not, but an attempt to be very historically relevant.
That's tough. Yeah. I'm not sure exactly how the ball is going to break at this point, but he gave a speech that was essentially like, hey, look, here's the situation.
Trump and the people who were following him, these MAGA folks are a mess. Yeah. They don't care about democracy. Right.
And they are a very serious threat to democracy as we are experiencing it now. Yeah. And the stability of the country. Us, normal folk. Right. Democrats, independents, Republicans who aren't into that nonsense.
Right. We have a responsibility to do what we can to protect democracy now. The future generations will look back. Sure.
As us being in the fight. Right. If we do our job, they will look at this point as an inflection point in history. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, there was, there were a number of things that are, I would say, a little bit overdue in terms of recognition of, hey, look, this shit is nonsense.
Fascism is bad. Right. Well, and, you know, previously he had called MAGA folks semi-fascists. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, there is, there is like a little bit of a, ah, finally, some of this is these words are being uttered. Right. Right. Right.
It's at least out in the air. Right. And, you know, there is an aspect of like, man, this might be too little too late. That is definitely present.
And there's also an element of like, what does this even really mean? You know, like, is this going to push any needles in any direction?
Or is this going to be something that has just a severe backlash? Who knows?
In my, in my humble opinion, the only reason that a president should give a speech is as cover for somebody to arrest like a thousand people at the same time.
Right. Is it a distraction?
Yeah. Yeah. The meat is all paying attention. And then all of a sudden in the middle of the speech, you start cutting to people being arrested, doing perp walks, like all the bankers are going, like the whole thing needs to be that speech.
Does the hypothetical president in this circumstance know that they're just a distraction?
Oh, absolutely. That's part, that's the whole game, man. That's the, he's given a speech to say that these people are coming for democracy.
Surprise. They're all in jail right now. How about that?
Well, as we are, that's a speech as we are a few days after this, none of them that didn't, that didn't happen.
Unfortunately, your, your movie fantasy did not happen.
But yeah, I'm really, there's a part of me that is quite conflicted about like how exciting to think the, like, you know, giving voice to a lot of this stuff is, like, or how meaningful it is.
Sure.
I would like to believe that, like, oh, this, this is indicative of, you know, something broader.
Yeah.
But, but honestly, there's a, there's a, another part of me that is like, ah, this is, this is probably impotent in its direction, direction lists even.
Well, I mean, you have to ask yourself, I know, I think that, no, I think the entire country is asking itself right now.
Does anybody even listen to the president anymore? Like all, all real talk, does anybody care what he says?
It might be one of the large effects of Trump.
I think so. It's like, oh, that a president, who fucking cares what the president has to say?
I mean, for four years, we had a president who's like, oh, he's talking shit.
He's just talking shit.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm going to do this thing. No, you're not. You're just talking shit on Twitter.
And I think that even before Trump, you had presidents who would have sort of empty talk and, you know, promises.
Sure, sure, sure.
Serious red lines.
Yeah.
You get used to a bit of that.
Yeah.
And then you have a president who's just talking shit.
Just all the time.
It seems tough to like come back from that to be like, well, we'll take all this very seriously.
Think about the gravitas of the off.
How dare you say, look at me and say that I should give a shit about what the president says.
I can if I so choose, but how dare you say I should, you know.
Yeah.
It's a tough, it's a tough walk from the past of like my fellow Americans.
I come to you today.
Yeah.
To like Trump being like, they say I have a small dick.
I mean, imagine, imagine FDRs to fireside speeches.
If it was just like, oh, the only thing we have to fear is how tiny Hitler's balls are.
Are you my right?
Yeah.
High fives from everybody.
Yeah.
Or just the, like the notion of thinking about presidents in history, caring about memes.
Well, I mean, Jackson did the equivalent of memes at the time.
Did he get mad about memes?
Oh, totally.
If there was a, if there was a nasty little comic strip in a paper, he went ape shit.
Maybe that's why Alex likes him.
I think so.
Anyway, we got an episode to go over of Alex's response to this September 2nd, 22,
2022.
And yeah, his reactions about what you'd expect.
There's a great speech.
I loved it.
I'm a huge fan of Biden from now on.
Evocative in its imagery.
All those things I said about him having a disease is wrong.
I'm excited to see where this goes.
Yeah.
Alex loved it.
Yeah.
We'll get into all that.
But before we do Jordan, let's say hello to some new walks.
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So yeah, the speech happened.
Yep.
And because of that, Alex decided like I'm not even going to wait for my intro to play.
I'm just getting in there.
Right.
I'm just diving in.
Okay.
The second the show starts.
I'm going to sink my teeth into this speech.
He is like just in it.
Okay.
As you can now see, America is going under total new older martial law.
Biden has literally given a speech declaring war on the people in a Hitlerian set.
You don't want to miss his broadcast.
It's for wars.
Tomorrow's news today.
Timing.
Nailed it.
Yeah.
That's not bad.
It is not bad.
That's professional.
Sure.
The Hitlerian set really seems to be one of the primary things that Alex is focused on.
Okay.
The optics of it.
Right.
The red light behind him.
The fact that he gave a speech at night.
Sure.
These are the things that Alex seems almost preoccupied by.
I mean, I assume that the content of the speech is not really something he's very interested
in.
Well, some of it.
Okay.
A little bit here and there.
Sure.
Some of the stuff that really works well for him.
Sure.
Yeah.
But the optics are, and I think one of the reasons that this is really sticking in his
craw, as it were, is we heard for years during Trump's time, Alex being like, you have
the bully pulpit.
Yeah.
Do an evening speech, get out there and address the population in prime time and get your message
across.
Right.
Trump wouldn't do that.
Right.
Or he didn't do the thing that Alex wants, and now here you have Biden doing exactly
what Alex was wishing Trump would do.
And not just that, but giving a speech, you know, the thing that they're famously furious
that he cannot do.
Mm-hmm.
You know, he can't speak clearly for a second.
Right.
That kind of thing.
And you do note that Alex doesn't play like the full speech.
Of course not.
He plays some bit, and we'll get to that here in a second, but like, yeah, because there
is, like, he makes gaffes all the time.
There's no planning.
Sure.
Sure.
The blood.
Yeah.
The plumping.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, it's, I think it's sour grapes, somewhat for Alex.
He wishes that Trump would have done something like this.
He wishes that Trump would have declared war on the globalist.
I mean, yeah, I was going to say.
He's mad that he's in a situation where like, ah, Biden's doing the thing I wanted Trump
to do.
I'm not saying that I have any kinship with Alex over this, but I do believe that his
idea of what speeches would happen is very similar to mine.
Mm-hmm.
You know, that you, you know, the speech happens while you're arresting everybody that you
need arrested.
Yes.
I think he and I are very similarly aligned in that being the way that speeches should
go.
He, there's a slight difference because you, well, you guys are both like experiencing
reality as a movie, but no, I'm, I'm wishing reality was a movie.
Right.
That's the difference.
That is the difference.
Where Alex is portraying Biden giving the speech as right cover for as what I think would
be inevitable lock locking up of all of his political enemies.
Yeah.
So I guess, yeah, there is, there is a similarity.
You should talk to somebody about that.
Like see an expert.
See what about what?
What am I supposed to say to that expert?
Um, I don't know.
There's like 700 episodes of our show that they can check in on.
What if it's a world, that world historian expert, they'll be like, ooh, yeah, yeah,
maybe, maybe they'll give you an honorary degree.
Yes.
So, um, Alex does, uh, start the show by playing some of Biden's speech.
And I noticed that there were some cuts.
Uh-huh.
I'd say.
Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology.
I know cause I've been able to work with these mainstream Republicans.
And here in my view is what is true.
Oh boy.
So there's pretty obvious cut there.
Um, and one of the things that is very important to point out is that Biden does go out of
his way to be very specific about like what he's talking about.
Yeah.
Folks who do not understand the transfer of power, the folks who don't have any, uh, interest
in the sort of governing rules and norms of the government, not just Republicans is not
just a partisan type speech.
So I assume he broke down at one point and just started screaming, January 6th.
It wasn't that long ago, January 6th.
I mean, in a, in a fashion.
Yeah.
He does bring it up.
Okay.
So close.
So it intrigued me that there was this, uh, these, these cuts because he has all the
time in the world on his show, you can play whatever he wants.
Sure.
And, uh, you know, do you know what he wants to play?
Right.
So here's what was said in between, uh, the clips that was cut out quote, but there's
no question that the Republican party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by Donald
Trump and the MAGA Republicans and that this is a threat to this country.
These are hard things, but I'm an American president, not the president of red America
or blue America, but of all America.
And I believe it is my duty, my duty to level with you, to tell you the truth, no matter
how difficult, no matter how painful, it may be a coincidence that this was cut out, but
it also seems like a point Alex wouldn't be super comfortable with, particularly the
part about the GOP being intimidated by Trump and his followers.
The impression about Trump and the MAGA folks is supposed to be that they're winning the
battle of ideas and that they're just smarter and more patriotic than the rest of us, which
is why they've taken over the GOP.
It's not a great idea to plant seeds in the audience's mind that maybe they're a part
of something hostile that has gained power not by being ideologically better, but by
being more willing to threaten and employ violence.
Alex also cuts out the part at the beginning where Biden says quote, we must never forget
we the people are the true heirs of the American experiment that began more than two centuries
ago.
We the people have burning inside each of us the flame of liberty that was lit here at
Independence Hall, a flame that lit our way through abolition, the civil war, suffrage,
the great depression, world wars, civil rights.
That sacred flame still burns now in our time as we build an America that is more prosperous,
free and just.
That is the work of my presidency, a mission I believe in with my whole soul.
It's just good business on Alex's part cutting that out.
He has a vested interest in pretending that his political enemies hate the country and
what it stands for.
So it's best not to allow someone like Biden to speak like this on Info Wars as someone
who has a passionate love for the country.
Sure.
Sure.
It would be too confusing to the audience.
It would be really terrifying if he quoted Thomas Jefferson.
Oh man.
That would fuck them up.
That would be.
Especially if he did it accurately.
Now, if he inaccurately quoted Thomas Jefferson, they would go absolutely apeshit all day.
All day would be a nonstop barrage of this guy doesn't know shit about Thomas Jefferson,
despite what we all know to be the truth of their ability to remember or even fantasize.
Thomas Jefferson quotes.
Yeah.
If any Biden speech writers are listening.
Oh man.
Slip in something about these nuts or something and then quote Thomas Jefferson all TJ all
day.
That would be.
That would be wonderful.
That's the way you got to go.
So I mean, he plays enough of the speech that you could just play the full passage if you
wanted to.
But there's just this is Frankenstein together or just cuts everywhere.
They promote authoritarian leaders and they fan the flames of political violence that are
a threat to our personal rights to the pursuit of justice to the rule of law to the very
soul of this country.
We hear you've heard it more and more talk about violence so you could hear that cut
there again.
Yeah.
Here's what Biden said in the middle of that right after where it cut quote.
They look at the mob that stormed the United States Capitol on January 6 brutally attacking
law enforcement, not as insurrectionists who placed a dagger to the throat of our democracy,
but they look at them as patriots and they see their Moga failure to stop a peaceful
transfer of power after the 2020 election as preparation for the 2022 and 2024 elections.
I think Alex knows well enough that most of his audience does see January 6th writers
as patriots, which is uncomfortable.
Yeah.
It's hard for it's hard to to rationalize if you really have to confront it on it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is holding up a mirror to his audience's beliefs in a way that could be threatening,
whereas other parts of the speech that are left in, they really aren't.
For instance, he leaves in Biden saying quote, they promote authoritarian leaders because
the audience doesn't think they do that.
Trump, DeSantis, Bolsonaro and Orban, they're the furthest things from authoritarian in the
audience's eyes.
So hearing Biden say that is just absurd to them.
That's not that's not something that's like, I'm taking a back by this.
Yeah.
Another part that Alex leaves in is quote, Moga forces are determined to take this country
backwards, backward to an America where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy,
no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love.
All that stuff, that stuff that his audience believes in and is totally fine with.
Yeah, I was going to say that's like, yeah, man, totally.
That's what we are doing.
They're anti-abortion.
They lean strongly toward or outright in favor of banning contraception.
They want to get rid of marriage equality.
And the idea of right to privacy is vague enough that they can just slip that in a list
of the day.
I don't know.
Listen, we want the right to privacy, but we also want to break into your home if you're
gay.
Maybe there's something to do with social media.
I don't know.
Whatever.
This is not threatening for Alex to show the audience because it gives the audience
the feeling that Biden is declaring war on them for their political beliefs.
They identify with the people that Biden is describing as a threat to democracy, which
is what Alex wants them to feel.
In the case of the January 6th thing, that's a little bit different.
That's a case where the audience will see their feelings mirrored by what Biden is saying,
but it's not about political positions they can justify as rational.
Opposition to abortion or believing that marriage is just between a man and a woman
are things that are common in many religious communities, so it wouldn't give you pause
to look at yourself in that mirror.
The riots of January 6th were actions, and those actions are way harder for people who
want to see themselves as respectable to justify.
That's a mirror.
It's best not to look into partially because what Biden is saying makes sense.
The group that tried to overrun the Capitol in order to stop the last election for being
certified poses a threat to our democratic processes that makes sense.
You don't want to look at that mirror.
Alex has also cut this part out, quote, but while the threat to American democracy is
real, I want to say as clearly as we can.
We are not powerless in the face of these threats.
We are not bystanders in this ongoing attack on democracy.
There are far more Americans, far more Americans from every, from every background and belief
who reject the extreme MAGA ideology than those who accept it.
After that line, there was a big cheer.
This could be useful to instill fear in the audience, but that doesn't play as well with
the info wars version of Biden and these ideas.
A huge part of the election conspiracy is that Biden was so unpopular and then no one
would come to his rally.
So you don't really want these large applause breaks and the getting applause for the idea
that there are more people who are sick of this stuff than Alex's goofy audience.
That's not good.
No, there's a bunch more that's cut out and a lot of it is Biden saying things about uniting
around defending our political process and then getting applause.
No need for stuff like that because it's bad optics.
You don't want it.
I mean, yeah.
Also for him, it's like, yeah, you know, it's not even a thing.
It's just like, oh, yeah, we're not, we don't, we can't use that.
So why leave it in, you know, and nobody's going to question us for cutting it.
It's obvious we cut it.
Do you think my audience is going to watch the whole speech?
Yeah, they don't give a shit.
Please.
Yeah.
They're going to accept whatever interpretation I give and that's going to be reality.
You know, I was, I was wondering, I, you know, part of why I think that calling the
January six people patriots is weird to me is because it was such a huge fuck up, you
know, like, I mean, they really, we all saw that it was just a bunch of fucking assholes
just really being pieces of shit, you know, and it's like, you can't mythologize that
the same way you can the Boston Tea Party, you know, like that was just a bunch of assholes
going on a boat and like fucking shit up, you know, counterpoint, what William Travis,
that's true.
Travis Fair enough.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
You can build an entire American legend on a drunk asshole fucking murdering people
at their house who was only there because he was running away from his ex-wife.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Never mind.
Yeah.
Never mind.
Yeah.
My bad.
I should have looked at Mormonism.
Yeah.
You still remember some of the details as opposed to the selling of the myth.
Exactly.
So I think, I think you're right for now, but give it a little time.
Sure, sure.
No, no, no.
They're, they're the true American revolutionaries in 10 years.
I get it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there's one, one more bit that was, I noticed a, just a massive cut here.
There are public figures today, yesterday and the day before predicting and all the calling
for mass violence and rioting in the streets.
This is inflammatory.
It's dangerous.
It's against the rule of law.
And we, the people must say, this is not who we are.
And now America must choose.
That was a big cut.
Jarran.
So here's what was missing there.
I quote, look, I know politics can be fierce and mean and nasty in America.
I get it.
I believe in the give and take of politics and disagreement and debate and dissent.
We're a big complicated country, but democracy endures only if we, the people respect the
guardrails of the Republic.
Only if we, the people accept the results of free and fair elections.
Only if we, the people see politics, not as total war, but mediation of our differences.
Democracy cannot survive when one side believes there are only two outcomes to an election.
Either they win or they were cheated.
That's where Maga Republicans are today.
Fair point.
Yeah.
Can't argue with that.
Yeah.
It, every single fucking election, it's getting to the point where, you know, obviously that
should give some of the folks pause on the, maybe some of the more aware, self-aware listeners
to Alex's chit should be like, all right, Sarah Palin lost, that was cheating, Laura
Loomer lost.
I mean, they can't all be cheating, man.
But what if they can't?
I mean, who has the time to cheat that many elections?
Even the globalists are stretched thin, man.
They don't have time for Alaskan elections.
Sarah Palin can lose on her own, baby.
And with the case of Laura Loomer, it's got to, like you got to look at this half glasses,
half full.
Yeah.
It should not have been that close.
Oh no.
That's a huge win for her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Upset it.
I mean, yeah, you lost, but you were a W away from getting a W, you know what I'm saying?
Like that was a very short, short walk.
Yeah.
Also, in this portion, Biden lists off a number of his accomplishments that, that he's helped
make possible in the past two years, all of which are things that Alex is pretending
aren't real.
So it's best not to confuse the audience with that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Definitely don't do that.
Also cut out the part where there's a protester yelling stuff to disrupt the speech and Biden
says quote, not withstanding those folks you hear on the other side there, they're entitled
to be outrageous.
This is a democracy, but history and common sense, good manners is nothing they've suffered
from.
That's a pretty far cry from all those times Trump interrupted his own speeches to demand
protesters be kicked out or times he responded with glee to protesters being assaulted at
his rallies.
Yeah.
It's kind of hard to paint the patience that Biden is exhibiting and tolerance of somebody
who disagrees as tyrannical, right?
Especially juxtaposed with right kick that bum out.
I know you really have to cut out a lot of Biden speech in order to make him look like
a tyrant.
Yeah.
I mean, but there's red lights and he's doing this at night.
So that's pretty good.
I mean, the funniest part about it is like, you know, I suppose you could go with the
bailout and like the ACA to portray Obama as a tyrant, you know, at least there's that.
But with Biden, it really does feel like he's half ass in, you know, like, is he a tyrant
if he's willing to be like, Hey, 10 K in student loan forgiveness, I'm not going to go after
these hard right people and say we got to get 20.
Come on, Jack.
This is negotiation.
All right.
You can't be a tyrant if you're literally low balling your own butt.
Power.
Sure.
I think it's tough, but it's a challenge that Alex wants to step it up to the plate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fair.
Another thing that's weird here is that the part where this picks up after the cut where
Biden says quote and now America must choose.
That's actually from earlier in the speech.
This is edited out of order to create the impression that Alex is wanting to convey.
Right.
I promise I could make Alex's show look so much worse.
If I just gave up on the idea of linear time, that's not fair because this is a very definition
of taking things out of context, out of context in temporal space.
Yeah.
No, if you take it out of one time and then put it into a different time and make it appear
that thoughts are flowing into each other that aren't, you might as well edit in each
individual word to make him say, I am a tyrant might as well be a magazine cut out of a hostage
letter.
Yep.
Maybe for time reasons, Alex wouldn't want to play the whole speech, but the way this
is being presented is irresponsible and it's intentionally deceptive.
Yeah.
100%
And you shouldn't expect anything otherwise.
Yeah.
So this clip comes to an end or the part of the speech and Alex has some words and this
is it.
Like this is the entire show.
We can choose a better path forward to the future.
A future of possibility, a future to build and dream and hope.
And we're on that path moving ahead.
Everything he said is an inversion of the truth.
There we go.
Weren't you, he'd give a speech declaring war in America.
They are locked and loaded to stage massive terror attacks.
This country is on the footsteps of doom and everybody better get the word out that they're
planning to stage violence.
They're the ones preparing violence.
They have the history of provocaturing and you heard him with no proof say that Republicans
are calling for violence.
They had a bunch of national TV shows the last two days say I'm calling for violence
when I'm calling for the opposite.
These people are making their move on us.
My God with a fascist background.
All they miss was the torches torches.
Isn't that traditionally pitchforks and torches coming from the other direction?
Yeah.
And I think that the torches certainly in present parlance evokes ideas of the unite
the right rally.
Yeah.
Tiki torches.
Yeah.
Which is his friends.
Which would be the buddies that he's around.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't understand exactly.
I'm sure there's some, some images trying to evoke that's not that, but I strongly suspect
that Alex has the tone that he has there because he knows that his followers are primed to
hear something like this as the go ahead to start shooting or carrying out violence
against the government.
He desperately needs to create the preemptive narrative that anything that may happen is
not real and will be a false flag.
Completely fake.
Incidentally, when Biden said the public figures were calling for violence and when
people are talking about that, they weren't talking about Alex.
This was almost certainly in response to Senator Lindsey Graham going on Fox News and saying
that if Trump was charged for having all that classified shit at Mar-a-Lago, then there
would be riots in the streets.
Everything is, you know, it's not always about Alex.
No.
Not everything is always about him.
I mean, except for to him.
You could argue that most things are not about Alex.
Typically.
Yeah.
Especially when Alex says they're about him.
Yeah.
That's a dead giveaway that they're probably not.
I do appreciate the discourse in America.
You know, like you think back to those, those conservative commentators like William F. Buckley
Jr. and you think about him now saying, you know, what amounts to I'm rubber in your
glue.
Neener, neener.
I love me.
Six to you.
Yeah.
Is essentially just, I mean, I think a win.
Uh-huh.
I think it's evolution.
Sure.
You know.
Ask not what the government can do for you and what you can do for the government.
Yeah.
This is an inversion.
Everything he says is the same.
All right.
Ask not what the government can do for you because the government can do everything but
not for you.
For you, they must do nothing.
He's not even a Berliner.
Oh boy.
So yeah, I think that that, I mean, obviously he knows that they're about to go to break.
And so he has a limited amount of time, but the argument of the reverse of everything
is the truth.
What he said is not true.
What I say is true.
It's a little lazy.
Obviously a little bit lazy.
Yeah.
Um, so, uh, look, I'm, I'm telling you the entire show is just false flags are coming.
Sure.
This is this because that's the only thing that's important.
Yeah.
He knows well enough.
He's plugged into no, like he's friends with all kinds of oath keeper types who have been
begging to fight a fucking war forever.
Like he knows enough to see the optics of this, to see the way people are talking about
it and know someone is probably making a bomb as we speak.
Yeah.
Um, so when that happens, if that happens, right, I don't want to be blamed for it and
I don't want this to be a setback to my business and to my ideology.
Yeah.
So it has to be fake in advance.
Yeah.
And when he was talking about false flags coming, uh, before this speech, uh, I mean,
it's the same thing.
It's just much more important now.
Uh, when, when there was those, you know, we touched on this before, but like, you know,
the clips on you on, uh, social media going around of him saying, Oh, false flags are
coming before the midterms.
Sure.
This is normal every day, uh, type.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is far more pitched.
Yeah.
And I know that the reason is because he knows there's a heightened chance that his friends
are going to do some real fucked up stuff.
Yeah.
That's true.
I, I, I don't know.
I think I would take that bet.
I think I would take the bet because the bet is if you arrest Trump and you do the,
the law thing correctly, uh, there's, there's they, they attack or nothing happens and we
get Trump, you know, I think I'd take the bet.
I think if we get Trump and they don't attack the wind drops out of their sales completely.
Like if they actually don't do anything, I don't even think it's healthy to look at
it this way because I think that the legal system or whatever should play out how it
plays out.
And sure, if there is cause and it's, um, you know, appropriate to arrest him, fucking
arrest him.
There should not be a consideration of what the backlash will be because that's terrorism.
Right.
I understand that.
I understand that, you know, but you understand that is the consideration that is being taking
place.
I understand.
Well, at least there's certainly, that's a big part of the conversation, hopefully
not within law enforcement.
Yeah.
Of course it is.
Well, I mean, why didn't, why do you think Mueller didn't?
Uh, charge him in the first place at the DOJ?
Maybe it's not appropriate for a sitting president to be charged.
I don't know.
Look, they're fair enough, but there's also maybe other considerations, but the, um, yeah,
I get, I get where you're coming from, but also I think that's naive because I think
that, uh, to assume an immediate backlash is the backlash, sure, uh, might be, might
be short-sighted.
So like if, you know, Trump were arrested and nothing happens, that doesn't mean like
six months of planning later or something wouldn't happen.
Sure.
Sure.
That's possible.
An elaborate jailbreak.
Right.
But I mean, you do understand we're breaking Trump out of his resort prison.
I mean, again, we're talking about an escape plan planned by the dumbest people on the
fucking planet.
You know, like I'm not afraid of their plans.
I'm afraid of a flash mob.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Plans would be foiled very, very easily.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
I, I, uh, it's, it's, it's tough.
It's, it's a tough thing to think about, um, but I hope that decision-making isn't being
guided by the potential for people to cause rampant and random, uh, political damage.
Yeah.
Uh, because that, again, is terrorism.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, it's not a great way to guide decision-making.
Right.
Right.
Right.
It's a fucking speech.
Exactly.
There you go.
The answer is self evidence.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this got me really excited, but don't worry, it's a deflation.
This is an emergency broadcast, ladies and gentlemen, and I'll be up here tomorrow taping
another emergency three hour broadcast with some special guests who are going to be here
today, but with the storms across the country, their plane is delayed until this evening.
I'll leave it at that.
Special guest.
I'll see you tomorrow.
We've got big guest as well in studio today, a psychological warfare expert leading ones
in the world.
We'll be telling you about that at the bottom of the hour.
Whoa.
Now that you're, now you, you can't tell me that it's going to be a deflation.
Well, I wanted you to feel how I felt.
I know, but come on.
That's so good.
I thought it was going to be Pachanic.
I thought he was going to be making his return.
It's not.
Now is the time.
Yeah.
So somebody's plane was not able to get to Texas for whatever reason, I'll just leave
it at that.
Alex didn't record a three hour, no, this did not happen, or at least it's not up on
band.video or any, anywhere I can find of the normal places things are posted.
Right.
So I don't think this happened, but I was thinking about it and like, it's probably just
Roger, right?
Yeah.
He lives in Florida.
Yeah.
That would be the.
And if it is Roger, then of course you'd have to say something, I'll just leave it
at that.
Right.
You can't be like, Oh, I mean, there was a weather event.
Yeah.
I know.
I don't know.
I didn't check the weather reports to see where there were, but yeah, I'm trying to
think who, who could possibly even be in that Rolodex Joel Scouson's not coming in.
No.
They'll Skype with you at best.
Oh man.
Barnes just, I think is in Texas now.
What if he got Bannon?
What if he got the bands?
Bannon would come remote.
Yeah.
That's true.
That is true.
Yeah.
Maybe he's got a family vacation plan.
He's in the bunker, the war room bunker that Alex is not mad about now.
No, no, no, no, no.
Stealing the name of the one show.
No, look it, that's no big deal.
Um, yep.
I don't know.
Trump could be.
Why not?
He's got to get out of the state.
Yeah.
Extradition from Texas is tougher than you might think.
So, um, Alex has some analysis and it's really a superficial ladies and gentlemen.
This is like, if you go to the zoo and take your three year old, you go, that's an elephant
honey.
Sure.
And it's an elephant.
There's no debating.
It's an elephant or that's a tiger or that's a giraffe or that's a grizzly bear or that's
a penguin or that's a boa constrictor.
When the leader of a country gets up and declares half the nation terrorist and says they're
about to engage in terrorism and they do it with troops behind them with a red background,
with a, with a dark cross above it.
There's a dark cross in every Hollywood movie and every dystopian system.
They show that exact iconography, all of it scripted by design in V for Vendetta.
It's the exact set.
Also, uh, incidentally, uh, uh, filming that three hour special.
So honey, uh, uh, can't take you to the zoo, I know I had plans to take my daughter to
the zoo.
Listen, we were going to go fishing, but that fell through.
So we were like, let's go to the zoo and now it's why it's on my mind.
Sorry.
Plain got delayed.
Everything is movies.
Yeah.
Everything is based on the surface level and appearances and it's kind of troubling.
It's really doesn't mean much more than him saying that he looked at the speech and it
reminded him of movies.
Yeah.
So Biden didn't say that shit.
No, that's just a mischaracterization of his words.
It would be interesting if he threw that one out there though.
Hey, listen, listen, assholes, 50% of this country is coming to kill you.
If the president said that, that would be a statement of war.
Listen up.
Listen up, assholes.
Listen, Jack, 50% of America straight talk express coming at you.
50% of America has got a gun and it's coming for you.
50% of America are bad boys and they run with a team of bad boys.
All right.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's, it would have been, I think, I think our conversation about it would probably be
different if that was what he said.
Yeah.
It would be very interesting.
That's an undiplomatic, unproductive way to the last Jedi backgrounds looking at looking
at Ray fighting all those people.
Yeah, I get it.
That would be evil.
I honestly would even have a pretty different take on it if it was what you fantasized.
I think I would have a different take on it if they pulled that one off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's very cue-ish.
Yeah.
So Alex is talking about this and he's like, man, this seems like I can work with this.
Okay.
I'm going to, I'm going to create some branding.
So ladies and gentlemen, when they project big blood red lights on a wall with flags
and troops at the ready, they're saying, we're coming for you.
And what it is, I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't have an operational name.
Oh God, I have a name.
I bet it's called Operation Matador or Operation Bullfight.
They see us as the bull and they are shaking a red flag in our face.
And the Matador is the deep state with a long, skinny, razor sharp sword so that when the
bull lunges forward, the Matador uses the force of its weight to drive it into the heart
and step aside with his cape as the bull buries himself into the dust.
This is Operation Matador.
This is Operation Matador.
T-shirts coming soon.
I mean, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you don't get to do that.
All your operation names have been documents in the past.
You've been like, we got Operation Lockstep and that was at least, at least there was
a thing though.
At least there was a word lockstep that could be found somewhere.
Another document.
Exactly.
Operation Matador's exist.
I understand that, but you can't pitch your own name.
You can't just be like, I bet it's called and then just give it a name and then call
it the name they gave it.
But he had a second option, which is Bullfight and he came around and he was like, Matador
is bad.
Matador is bad.
That's true.
He worked the process.
He did work.
Come on, man.
Come on, Jack.
He has his own fucking analogy in order to explain the name that he bets they made up
for it, thinking that they had the metaphorical, uh, will, wherewithal to make that up.
It's a pain.
It's not good.
Alex likes it though.
So he's going to keep going.
So he's going to keep going with Operation Matador.
Yeah.
It's fun though.
The idea that he's just sitting there is like, I bet there's a fucking name for this
and I'm going to spit ball.
I'm going to name it myself.
Listen up, Jack.
Yeah.
So we goes along with this bull analogy.
Sure.
So that's all this is.
And the first and the way you get a bull that outweighs the Matador 15 times and has big
giant razor sharp horns to finally run into the sword is they throw little spears.
Are they sharp in his back sharp to piss him off and to anger him.
That's what they've been doing with the open borders and the drag queen story time that
he valued dollars and shutting off your power supplies and remote controlling all the devices
in your house.
We warned you 20 years ago, they would do sure and running down America and running down
our families and having the NFL take a knee and all the rest of this garbage.
I'm sorry.
What?
That was throwing the little spears, the barbs in our back.
But now the red capes out with 67 days out from the midterms where they know they're
set to lose big despite all the dead people they've got on the rolls, hoping they can
steal it with mail-in ballots.
And so now the red cape is out being flapped in our face and right behind it is the FBI
and the New World Order getting ready to stage terror attacks because they know we're not
going to jump on the sword.
Populous Christians conservatives are too smart.
Operation Matador.
What is happening?
So if you follow this and understand it for his language, then you know that most of the
stuff Alex talks about is bullshit.
And a lot of these things he's listed as spears being poked to anger the audience are just
buzzwords he throws around to prompt an emotional reaction from the audience.
This list is an airing of grievances and the complaint is basically that Alex doesn't like
technological advancement and abhors a society that embraces immigrants and LGBTQ community
folks.
Right.
He yells about free speech all day but wants to live in a country where athletes aren't
allowed to take a knee during the national anthem in protest of racial discrimination
and policing.
These are things that Alex conceptualizes as the spears being used to poke the metaphorical
bull and it really just sounds to me like Alex is expressing a profoundly white identity
view of the country.
He doesn't believe that people who are not straight white Christians are entitled to
right or power in this country and on some level anytime he hears a conversation about
people who fit this description acting in a way that he doesn't like, his reaction is
basically like you should be glad us white folks even let you be here.
Yeah.
I mean it does seem like the more apt metaphorical stand in for Alex in this scenario is in
fact the bull itself constantly being enraged by any number of different things.
Alex is the spears.
Yeah.
He's angering people.
Yeah.
Anyway, each time he sees these things, these things like people living, he experiences
that as a spear being poked into his white Christian tolerance, Colin Kaepernick taking
a knee instead of just accepting police violence.
That's a spear.
Drag queens reading at a library instead of being shamed into never living in public.
That's a spear.
Immigrants being allowed into the country instead of having a hardened militarized border they're
killed for crossing.
That's a spear.
Here's the thing.
When a bull charges after being poked by a bunch of spears, it's a natural reaction.
The matador waving that flag is something that the bull can't really be faulted for
charging.
It's the expected result of all the poking.
If we understand Alex's metaphor, his patriot buddies are the bull and they would be well
within their right to charge the matador, in this case bomb things, because they've been
poked so much.
Right.
The only problem is that the matador's cape has the FBI behind it.
That doesn't really make sense because in the metaphorical matador situation, there's
whole thing, there's really no way to make it a false flag.
You would need like a fake bull or some shit and I have no idea how this works inside this
conception.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This isn't Alex warning about a false flag.
This is him warning his buddies about following their instincts.
He's trying to tell the bull not to charge because it's a trap because Alex understands
that his buddies want to charge that matador really badly.
They want to bomb shit and Alex is smart enough to recognize that the way that people are
talking about Biden's speeches, exactly the kind of thing that will lead, that will be
as much of a stimulus for that as a matador waving a cape.
This isn't a false flag situation.
He's talking about it's more of a honeypot kind of idea.
I mean, yeah, I was, I was comparing them to the bull more in the sense that they lose
at the end.
The bull doesn't win.
True.
The bull can't like overcome the whole thing and be like, Hey, listen, I've chosen the
way of peace.
The bull is going to do the thing because they have no ability to stop themselves.
The bull could like, I think a better way to make this metaphor work, I guess, is the
bull is the audience.
Alex is the spears poking them.
Yeah.
And then getting arrested is the matador.
Yeah.
That works.
He's, I mean, yeah, that's something along the lines.
And Alex then will deny that he was ever a spear or anything.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Nothing to do with this.
Right.
You know, yeah, there's the incitement that is being done by Alex.
Yeah.
Um, and then, yeah, there's no false flag or trickery really.
Well, and even then Alex could be the matador trying to navigate the bull, but really not
having any control over where the bull goes.
And so the bull constantly comes at him and then, you know, runs forward and there's all
kinds of a collateral damage.
I think the point though is that this metaphor isn't good.
No, that is the point.
And Alex is talking about this being like staged false flag terror attacks that they're
going, the globalists are going to do and shit.
Yeah.
And just doesn't work within this like the framework that he's talking about.
Yeah.
The only way for the bull metaphor to work is Alex understanding that his audience is
going to carry out bombings.
Right.
It's just that they're being provoked into doing it.
Right.
Because they think that it's the right thing to do.
I would also accept that it might work if adding an actual bullfight when the matador
pulled the, the cape aside, the FBI was there.
That's still not a false flag.
No, but it would make more sense.
But I think that maybe Alex is thinking of the cape as a flag.
Right.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Trying to come up with a way this works.
We're working on it.
We'll figure it out someday.
So look, I don't have that many clips from this whole episode and one of the reasons
is because it's incessant false flag talk.
That's really the 80% of the content.
Okay.
Why do you make an announcement this bold and crazy because they're going to pull stuff
so damn horrible and they're going to go ahead and make their move on everybody.
They'll assassinate Trump.
They'll, they'll come kill me.
Sure.
Naturally.
And then they're going to come for you.
They're making their move.
And they're insane.
I will be dead by the midterms.
I mean, but, but what are you talking about then?
Then say you call for violence.
You're saying, he's saying that they're calling, they're literally coming to kill you.
And there's no stopping it because he just announced it.
So if he has announced that the war has started, then the war has started.
But the war is a trick.
What?
I don't know.
You can't, you can't stage false flags if the war has already started.
Do you understand?
There's no reason to have false flags.
Well, yeah, there is.
Because you want to look like you're only fighting defensively.
It's the same thing that Alex wants.
I mean, no, Alex did the thing for Russia.
You can just do the thing and then you'll have people lie for you.
True.
I mean, that's an option.
Yeah.
I look, oh, there's holes.
All right.
Yes, there's holes.
You're right.
My bad.
My bad.
I'm sorry.
Part of the fun banter here is not putting this on you.
Missing your ideas by adopting Alex's ability to patch over things.
But yeah, there's too many holes here for me even to really do work on this.
That's too hard.
But Alex's tummy hurts.
So I told you the last month, my gut level, also intellectual analysis is 10 times worse
than it's ever been.
I mean, 10 times more intense.
10 times more concerned.
I'm guaranteeing you, OK, guaranteeing you that unless we see massive Justice Department
whistleblowers now, and unless we see people even in corporate media that know their mercenaries
and know what they're doing is wrong and a lot of them do, unless we just see everybody
start coming out and saying, I'm not with this.
It's over.
And again, all people say, well, we'll just have a war with these people and we'll show
them.
That's the plan.
We don't want to have a war with these psychos.
We'll beat them.
But in the process, it'll be a Pyrrhic victory.
No, you'll lose.
Yeah.
That's why you don't want that.
Really badly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nobody's actually going to fight a civil war.
No.
It would be absurd.
No.
I mean, frankly, it'd just be expensive.
There will be more in greater right wing terrorism.
And that will be, you know, what happens?
Yeah.
And you don't want that really because as much as, you know, some of that is galvanizing
for his community, you know, denying the Oklahoma City bombing is certainly something
that they've made a lot of mileage on.
It's also a lot of work.
It's a hassle.
And you'd rather not do that.
You'd rather play in this space.
This Schrodinger's bombing space that Alex is in now is much easier to live in.
Well, and I mean, not just that, but if you're going to have a civil war, then you have to
have a concept of your end game.
And if you're the terrorist side, then ostensibly your end game is defensive, maintaining your
territory.
What is your territory?
Occupied, Texas?
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
So if you win the civil war, do you get all of America or do you get a certain subsection
of America and you don't want a subsection of America?
That would be all.
Right.
And it would be, but who's, how would you get all, they can't, there's no infrastructure
that they can handle.
There's no way to get water if they're, win, win the civil war.
They're like, oh, it's all the wild west.
They can't govern true.
You know how like Alex believes that Trump is the rightful president of the U. S. Sure.
He thinks the Confederacy is the rightful.
There is that government.
It is the, they're actually, the South didn't just not lose this award.
They won it all the way.
Right.
Yeah.
And so he just wants to get back to that.
Right.
Right.
That's, that's kind of how you should conceive of it.
That's fair.
That's fair.
It's on me.
Yeah.
So, um, yeah.
Look, they, uh, I'll guarantee you they got the trucks loaded with fuel oil bombs right
now.
I guarantee you they're going to run the same place again.
They did 95.
But if we put enough heat on them and have enough of their minions, they're trying to
set up as the Patsy's learn about this, it'll neutralize them.
Yeah.
So we got bombs and trucks.
Sure.
Ready to go.
Right.
Today.
This is extreme.
Yeah.
If I believed any of this, I'd be pretty scared.
Yeah.
Um, yeah.
This would be a real struggle to get around.
Sure.
And, um, I mean, if you believe all of this, like, okay, C was a false flag.
Sure.
If you have the fuel bomb trucks ready to go, um, you kind of have to think that the
target would be a civilian target.
Yeah.
If you're somebody who just lives and like listens to Alex, believes this stuff goes about
your day.
I don't know how you could not think like, well, maybe the building that I work in could
be a target or, or something like it's, it's got to be cripplingly scary.
Whether it's a conscious fear or not, like there's got to be something that, uh, it's,
it's awful.
And if he's evoking, okay, see, it's not like, it's not like, oh, this only happens in the
major cities.
It's like that is, I mean, it's not, not a, a city, but it is like, that is more of
the, well, it could happen in my suburb.
Yeah.
It's a mid range American city.
Yeah.
Not a, not a metropolis.
Right.
Um, yeah.
Yep.
And I think that's the feeling that he wants his audience to have.
Yep.
Alex has some experts that he's talked to that they, he's not going to say who, but
they fuck and agree with him in the last few days, I've talked to high level current Pentagon
and high level current CIA and high level army special operations command and they concur
with my analysis a hundred percent and say it's their analysis and that America's never
been in more trouble.
But obviously those people can't come on the show, but I can tell you that people that
have done this in third world countries and people that have run regime change agree.
There's an attempt by the leftist arm of the deep state to stage events and permanently
bring America into martial law.
That's fucking Steve.
Yeah.
That is Steve.
That is 100% of Stevie way to go.
Oh yeah.
Guys who have run regime change.
These are epithets that Alex uses to describe Steve Pachanik and Steve Pachanik alone.
And he's not.
So I bet he's talking to Steve.
He's not saying the words though.
He's backsliding into this past abusive relationship.
You know you're gonna have to matter a time to Pachanik is back.
It is.
Oh God.
You just can't quit it.
Just rip the Band-Aid off and get him back already.
I know.
Now I do think that it would make sense that these high level people agree with Alex because
we heard not too long ago that Alex is the fucking leader of the government.
Yeah.
But he doesn't even remember that.
He does not remember that he is not calling people right until I brought it up.
You forgot.
I completely forgot.
It's a day to day.
It's a day to day show continuity to anything.
Not at all.
Alex is in charge of the Patriots and the government.
Yeah.
Like they look to him as leader of course their analysis intersects.
What are they doing with analysis?
Shouldn't they know shit?
Yeah.
But that's what analysis is.
It's the things they know from the things they know.
Yeah.
But shouldn't he be calling them to confirm his analysis and not have them be like we
were thinking the same thing bro.
We don't have any explanation or why.
Let me explain this.
He's just talking shit with people who don't actually have any information.
Well there's that.
And they're not like high level.
He's talking shit with Steve.
Yeah.
Basically.
It's more fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This clip was really where I if I were involved in towel throwing.
Sure.
This is maybe where I would throw the towel on this.
I kind of brought me back to reality.
They know they've lost politically.
They know they're about to lose the election.
So they are getting ready to stage something huge ladies and gentlemen.
So the public would at least buy that because of the big terror attack or whatever or terror
attacks or mass shootings or mass poisonings or power outages or whatever it is they're
gearing up to do.
There's a plethora of things they can do within the false flag realm.
And so I'm just going to be every day on this until the election because they'll want a
few weeks to maximize it.
I'd say we enter the prime zone October 1st and October after and they may go ahead and
just start stuff up now.
They may do a bunch of attacks.
They may do one big giant attack.
They may do five six big attacks.
Is that all part of operation out of door.
The truck bombs are loaded.
Okay.
You better believe the mentally ill schizophrenic mass shooters are being programmed and drugged
up and are in government CCIA Neural Order Programming Center's M. K. Ultra operations
right now.
The Manchurian candidates are ready.
They are rolling out guaranteed.
You can bet your bottom dollar.
So I've been kind of zoning out a little bit at this point because it's just repetitive
yelling nonsense about false flags that I kind of got brought back down to the ground
by this clip and it was just like what it's just what are we doing like Alex's conspiracy
and this grand false flag that's coming and Biden's speech is the harbinger for it.
It all centers around the fucking midterms.
I mean the plot for this giant false flag is about creating the public perception that
it makes sense for Democrats to win midterm elections.
What is going on?
Like is this what Alex has been brought to and it's not just that but he's listing everything
is a sign like every you know it's not just false flags where it's like oh there's an
explosion or something.
No it's like hey the power went out for eight hours.
They're coming for you.
Right.
You know like oh shit the Wi-Fi's down.
Anything could be explained as the jump off.
Anything.
Yeah.
And he's listing random ass shit.
Yeah.
And it's the anybody anything anyone if the sun rises and the rooster is silent the globalists
are coming.
If someone looks shifty at you in the grocery store that's the sign.
Right.
You know like there's no escape.
Yes.
If you see a rainbow and the colors are inverted.
Wait.
Tomorrow it's going to be fine.
Yeah.
I can't hang with that.
Globalists have been beaten back.
Fear of all.
They've been beaten back.
We have neutralized the car bombs.
It's like what are you doing to me.
Yeah.
It's it's insane.
And the the notion that it's about the midterms is just pathetic.
I can't.
It's I I can't I there was there was at least a self seriousness that Alex had in earlier
times in his career where that would this would look embarrassing for him to be like
going so far out of his way to create these elaborate conspiracy theories about something
like a midterm election.
I mean.
Yeah.
It's it's how how obsessed is he with like treating like politics like sports and like
a pop culture kind of thing that he's doing this about a midterm.
Yeah.
So sad.
Yeah man.
He's supposed to be above this.
He used to do 9 11 dude.
Now you're at the midterm.
Well he's trying to pretend that 9 11 is coming in order for Democrats to win a midterm.
Really.
That's so sad.
Yeah.
Ugh.
It's a hey it's the most important election of our lifetime Stan.
I mean I think that a lot of people very rightly critique that kind of rhetoric all over the
place and I think that's fine.
I just I think that Alex is doing a substantially worse version of it.
More extreme version.
Yep.
What a bummer.
Yeah.
So Alex takes some calls and he wants to talk to people who are like you know in the military.
Hey.
Are you going to bomb something because it should be a false flag.
He doesn't bomb something.
He doesn't grill it.
People about that.
I think I would if I took over info wars for a day I would be like OK I'm taking calls
my first question to everyone.
Have you or are you about to build a bomb.
Well I think that in the past I have heard people say like Alex I want to talk to you
off air.
Yeah.
I think some of those people might say that.
That's an issue.
Maybe not on the radio.
Yeah.
He says he wants to take calls from military folk who know things.
Sure.
Sure.
And I would suggest that this is a bad strategy because it incentivizes people to lie about
being in the military.
Yeah.
Because if I'm only taking calls from military people like oh hey guess what now I'm military.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know if you recall that story of the the Bundy's and all those dudes sitting
around talking about their fucking military experience.
Yeah.
All their wartime shit.
One of them had ever been in the army at all.
Yeah.
Dave Anthony brought that up on.
Oh yeah.
What you weren't here for.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah so Alex takes a call from somebody who is allegedly maybe national security or
maybe ICE.
Who knows.
Sure.
Could be anybody.
His resume is dubious and he has some news about a bomb.
Tony is a 15 year homeland security and he wants to give us his view on this from Washington
D.C.
Go ahead Tony.
Hey how you doing Alex.
Hey God bless you once again.
But hey I'm calling because I'm 15 year former federal employee we're for Custom Border Protection
we're for ICE.
But I'm calling in regard to the whole entire thing about everything it's coming about.
As you know six months ago I walked away from the federal government.
They wanted us to do the vaccine mandate and I told Secretary Muir I'm my orcas send me
an email.
There's about 9 to 12 percent of us who walk away but there will be there will be something
coming every couple months in which I got numerous other memos when I still work there.
More likely it's going to be a nuclear bomb minus the plutonium or the uranium.
It's going to get off and that's going to be one of the new set of lockdowns so not
a nuclear bomb.
I agree.
I agree.
Suitcase nukes power outages but without the tax they blame on the Russians.
I believe all that's in the cards but that's what you guys are getting briefed on.
It's one of the things we're getting briefed on but minus the radiation still there actually
won't be no radiation.
It's going to be set off.
It's all going to be and it's going to be one of the way that they said with the vaccine
one of the way they fear people.
So they're going to say it's nuclear but it's really classic explosive or are you saying
it's going to be a neutron bomb.
We got supplies for the last two years.
They've been planning this stuff for the last two years.
We got as you know about the body bags.
I mean myself my former office we had over 200,000 body bags all over the whole entire
spot.
You said something key.
They're saying it's a nuclear bomb minus radiation.
That's a neutron bomb which is Kissinger and Brzezinski are obsessed with neutron bombs
and he populated America.
This guy sounds a little speedy.
I mean he's more chatty than any CBP officer I've ever.
Well he's not anymore because he's not he's not part of it because he left over vaccine
mandates.
Yeah.
Six months ago.
Sure.
Vaccine mandates.
Six months.
Also a neutron bomb is not just a nuke minus the radiation.
There's still tons of radiation but the concept is to like minimize the longevity that the
radiation is there.
So the affected areas have inhabited more quickly.
Yeah.
Get people back in.
But I guess that we should be on the lookout for nuclear bombs that have no radiation involved
because this high level ice insider has warned of it and Alex has agreed this is a serious
concern so we should probably be really worried about this.
This is definitely worth your mind space.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A guy dubiously associated with federal government programs ostensibly not on speed right now
telling me that nuclear bombs without plutonium are going to hit people.
I'm going to go with a pass on this one.
You pass a pass because Alex said I agree.
I'm going to pass.
Yeah.
I'm going to go with a pass on this one.
So we finally in terms of shark tank Alex is the one going with this business.
We found the difference between you and Alex.
Yeah.
So we get another caller.
He's got an idea.
Great to talk to you.
My personal opinion is that they're bringing the borders wide open.
If you notice there's a lot of Ukrainians coming through there.
I haven't noticed.
And they're you going to use these Ukrainians because biting has connections with those
people.
The Russians have warned the Ukrainians may start false flags in Europe and America.
I agree that they would they would stand again from it.
And they're going to dress them up in Trump Trump gear and have them do some stuff.
And bam martial law.
So look out for Ukrainians dressed up as Trump supporters carrying neutron bombs.
Bam.
Martial law.
And also trucks with fuel bombs already gassed up and ready to go.
Boy we got a lot of things to worry about.
This is a concern.
Yeah.
If if a shot of concern if if they did he say that he's seen he hasn't seen Ukrainians
coming through the border.
He's so many.
He is not.
He's so many.
Where?
Where?
What?
Ukrainians are going through Mexico.
Yeah.
They fly into El Salvador.
What are we doing if Ukrainians are coming through the border?
Well there's a tunnel from Ukraine to Brazil.
And then they these are the ballots from North Korea.
This is the ballots from North Korea.
You know the channel how it connects France and the UK.
OK.
You know so they have that.
So it's between Ukraine and Brazil.
Ukrainians are at Odessa and they're like listen we could go to the United States but
those motherfuckers you can't trust them so we're going to head to Mexico first.
We're going to take the land route to get through Arizona or whatever we might be thinking
about this wrong.
OK.
You know there's an Odessa in Texas.
I did not know that there's an Odessa in Ukraine.
Is there a teleportation device between Odessa is what I'm talking about.
OK.
Now we're talking.
I think there's a portal.
You might be right.
That makes it all makes it so a lot easier to get a suitcase nuked through.
I would think so anyway and Biden has connections with quote those people the whole country
the whole country.
So we have one caller who disagrees with Alex interesting and this is a good example of
why it's pointless to disagree with Alex on his show.
Let's race through your calls right now.
Let's go to John in Vegas.
John thanks for calling.
Yeah I'm looking at the Biden transcript right now and I don't see a single thing that you're
talking about.
I tell you what what you're doing edging your audience constantly is embarrassing and
a shame.
So you listen listen you're a seminar caller.
You said you were calling on the Air Force about the Biden speech.
I can play the clips right now while you're gaslighting even the Washington Post said
it was basically a declaration of war.
They're saying Republicans are planning violence everywhere.
Are you denying he's up there with troops behind him.
That's unprecedented for a president to give a speech with troops at night time with red
light behind him unprecedented.
I'm I'm denying that I've had enough said you disagreed and legitimate points I talked
to you.
I'm not going to play your games.
I got stacks of articles them controlling our thermostats.
I'm sorry what the border.
They're saying Republicans are about to hell.
I'm not even going to humor you and play the clips.
Everybody's obviously so this caller is a good example of why you can't really inject
disagreement on Alex's own show even if you have a valid point like how none of the things
Alex is saying about Biden's speech are accurate true.
Alex could just hang up on you talk over you call you a seminar caller and create fake reasons
to not engage with any of your points.
He can list off weird unrelated talking points to distract his listeners like what exactly
does your thermostat have to do with whether or not the way Alex is discussing Biden's
speech is accurate.
I believe nothing to do with that.
I believe he was actually speaking literally in that because if you if you scan the sentence
then it's actually the stacks of articles themselves that are controlling our thermostats.
So that was just letting everybody know that the stacks of articles has taken over the
infowars the amount of printing and wasting of paper and non recycling that Alex does
taking over the impact on climate change.
You got it to the point where governments have had to control your thermostats controlling
our thermostats because we can't stop printing stack history will reflect that our culture
was brought down by stackies.
I think that's that's that is a theory automobiles and stackies so Alex can also just like move
the goalposts and pretend that if only you'd been honest about what you called in he would
have engaged with your points but no you're just playing games.
He cannot play any of the clips and present his unwillingness to present his own evidence
as an unwillingness to engage with your games that you're playing calling and disagreeing
with Alex is pointless.
And even though the prime directive of our show you know to not interfere with infowars
is kind of destroyed because of our presence at the trial and my work with the plaintiffs.
I still think that it's important to point out that this just isn't something that's
going to go anywhere.
I would not incentivize that behavior although and I do kind of wrestle with this because
I think that person probably is a listener of our show because he's the edging I mean
I'm not saying that we've popularized edging but I don't think I feel like I haven't heard
terrorist edging anywhere else like Pez dispenser for protocols I think those are things that
might be specifically ours yeah or at least they give the suspicion strongly and so I
kind of considered not playing that clip even because I'm like that might be someone to
listen to our show but it wasn't fucking with Alex it wasn't creating like trying to mess
with him.
Yeah it was just giving a disagreement about the point that he was making and it doesn't
necessarily using the edging doesn't necessarily mean he listens to the show it could be it
could be one of those words that just starts to get popularized through the culture yeah
but the only reason I'm even bringing it up is one I've not played in the past times
or I'm like that's someone who listens to our show because I don't want to incentivize
that right.
I don't want people to think like if they can't get on our show through right I don't
want anyone to think of that as like something that or that will like be hey good job fucking
with Alex or that's a that's a not or a thing that they compete with the that people compete
with each other on it like oh if it's funny enough it'll get on the show that's not going
to happen yeah yeah whereas this is just a good teachable moment where this person had
a point that Alex could not respond to and you see the all of the methods that he deploys
immediately in order to get out of this call de legitimize the person as a seminar caller
accuse them of gaslighting say I would play the clips but you don't deserve it because
you lied I would engage with your points but you lied and yell over them before they disagree
with this yeah well I disagree with and obviously the point is gonna be I disagree with the
way you're exactly and then just cut it off yeah it's it's it's it's nonsense you're
not somebody who you can engage with there's no win yeah yeah so Alex is the psych warfare
guest on that's not Steve Pajett no unfortunately yeah and we're going we're not going to listen
to much of it because I found it to be a little bit like I don't know boring but we have one clip
here and I don't think that this is exactly the beginning that Alex wanted to this interview
Professor Matias Desmond is in studio with us for the next hour plus he is recognized
the world's leading expert of theory of mass formation psychology and psychosis as it applies
to COVID-19 pandemic his professor of clinical psychology department of psychology and educational
sciences at Ghent University Belgium and practicing psychologists he was worked in discussing widely
in the media and he's here with us of course he's well known for the Joe Rogan show as well
you want to get right into biden's speech professor and just how archetypal it is with
a nighttime with troops behind him with red light and it's right out of ether vendetta it's right
out of Nazi Germany it's right out of Stalinist Russia it's right out of North Korea and and
saying our enemies are gonna be bad and we've got to have a war with them what did you make of that
and and it's great to have you here with us yes well this speech definitely puts us at risk of
something and it is that it entices the people who are targeted namely those people who are
target to who are who are referred to by president biden as a mega extremists that it
entices these people to act upon their aggression and that's what should be avoided at all times
because it will be counterproductive and self-destructive if people act upon their aggression
because the system can perfectly control aggression i believe that it is of crucial
importance that uh we stick to the principles of non-violent resistance and that we realize
that the first and foremost enemy we have to watch is that part of the enemy that is in
ourselves namely this aggression that that might entice us to act in a violent way this is not
really what alex wanted the professor isn't describing a false flag he's saying that biden
speech was possibly a bad idea because it'll be used as justification for people who want to do
violent things when they do violent things right this isn't good with alex's concepts because it
basically is admitting that alex's community are largely inclined towards violence yeah they
don't have a good handle on that internal enemy that is aggression and are begging for someone to
give them a reason to act on it pretty much understood appropriately this episode has basically
been alex tripping over himself to frame biden speech in a way that inflames that aggression
in his audience but pays lip service to not wanting any violence so he can evade any accusations
that he's causing and calling for terrorist acts right put simply i don't respect anybody who
accepts a booking on info wars but this guy is coming at the conversation of biden speech from a
completely different perspective than alex and i think that their views are actually at all
with each other oh yeah i disagree with the professor's point mostly because if taken to
its logical conclusion you end up in a place where criticizing any potentially violent segment of the
population is bad because it will trigger their aggression but i do accept that his uh point is
at least connected to reality and it's something that can be debated yeah alex's position is more
or less just rooted in his feelings and it's not something you can refute at all it'd be pointless
to argue with him about it the the conversation is alex saying when the people that i've riled up do
violence uh it will be a false flag and his conversation is actually they shouldn't do
violence because that is the the thing but if alex but if you say that to alex's listeners
then they won't do violence and then there won't be a false flag because there won't
actually be an actual attack so those two those two conversations are in direct opposition in terms
of goals well alex kind of winks at the like don't do violence this is uh an attempt to you know
like his metaphor with the matador like it is if if you just have the metaphor it is what this
doctor or this professor is saying yeah yeah like it's this is an attempt to lure you into
doing something right um as opposed to it being fake but but that's not the larger way that in
less and i accept this is a possibility if false flag as a as a term includes uh people doing things
they shouldn't do uh because biden made them angry right then false flag loses any meaning yeah as a
term yeah so if alex is describing that as something that qualifies as a right right right
then i would say we have passed uh the point where anything uh has any any definition yeah
yeah because the idea of false flag has to include i planned this to achieve the opposite of what
theoretically i want to pin something on somebody else exactly i do an illegal thing to frame a
person yeah you know which implies intent whereas this is if you include they quote unquote tricked
me uh into doing a thing right uh than i wanted to do already right that's just responsibility
that's just called responsible for your it was intrapament because i didn't like biden's speech
yeah i mean i don't know it's not really like i mean it is a little bit like if you're like okay
hey here's a good speech people shouldn't steal uh from their grocery store because people need food
and they're like oh that makes me want to steal from grocery stores and then he so much but when i
did it was because he tricked me it was a false flag yeah yeah that makes sense it doesn't i like
it yeah um and i think that one of the things you should take away from this is that regardless of
whether um alex is talking incoherently with this metaphor and stuff or if he really does believe
that if you bomb something because you're mad at biden's speech yeah that's a false flag yeah
whatever the case the term false flag is meaningless to him yeah it is a signifier of something
that is just like ah don't take this seriously yeah for his audience to like not accept any kind of
like um idea that the information space that they live in and the stuff that alex disseminates
is part of the violence right is part of inflaming that aggression right ignore that right that's
what false flag means yes it means don't include this in your balance of consequences of this world
view ironically to return to an earlier metaphor that alex himself made if you are taking your
three-year-old daughter to the zoo and you're looking at an elephant and you go that's not a
fucking elephant that's some fake elephant then uh that's more like what alex is doing again the
trip to the zoo has been canceled because alex needs to record this three hour video that he
ended up not recording it's a real bummer um maybe next time little lucy so this uh yeah this interview
with this guy i found very boring um it's i mean he's talking about this idea of like mass formation
which is the uh the idea that ah part of the population has been tricked into thinking
covid is uh real and that because of or he does not say that covid is fake sure sure sure that uh
we need to do all this stuff in order to battle covid and they're in a hypnotic state more or less
but i mean if you if you listen to it if you want to go ahead but if you do you'll notice that a lot of
maybe all of the things that he is describing as being indicative of this this sort of hypnotic
state that people are in kind of describe people who support trump right um and i just i found it
to be an uncompelling interview and he's he's this you know you can get his verbal patterns it's very
boring i hate it i i really don't like that guy and he's using terms that i think alex is kind of
not understanding and dancing around yeah it's just it's i don't care that makes sense as it's
very little to do with what i think is important which is alex's response to biden's speech right
and so we will leave it off there yeah but uh yeah so be worried about ukrainians dressed as trump
supporters really forgot that already suitcase nukes yeah yeah anytime you see portals and you
portals are always you always be afraid of portals you should be worried about the possibility of
fuel bombs and trucks sure um and also the midterms coming up i very very important
well also you notice alex is like doing all this stuff but he's not saying go vote
he's he's spending hours talking about the the dangers of these false flags but not at all
get out and vote there's no real like uh there isn't isn't as much like a hey informers is going
to sponsor registration drive uh none of that stuff more just be scared of even even whenever
he's like oh hey listen laura loomer mtg you guys you need to be in the office you need to be there
he's never like i hope people vote for you that's never that i hope people strong argue it he might
say that occasionally people need to go out and support laura loomer but i think more it's like
donate to her campaign yeah exactly exactly it's all money yeah anyway we'll be back jordan
with another episode indeed um but until then um we have a a website we sure do it's knowledge
right dot com and the 2024 midterms dot com god damn it which is intentional because do we have it
with z no it's uh but it's the 2022 midterms so we got the 2024 midterms dot com we don't actually
have that website this is this is made up we'll get it there um also we're on twitter we are on
twitter is that knowledge on this go fight yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx
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so alexa my first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you