Knowledge Fight - #724: August 7-11, 2003

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan take a trip to the past.  In this installment, Alex tells some very clearly made-up stories from his youth, and Dan breaks down the way Alex misreports stories so they will fit his predetermined narrative. Citations Dreamy Creamy Fundraiser

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas, stop it. Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are Dan Jordan, Dan Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot? Oh, that was that wasn't our best execution. No, rhythm was terrible. That was that was off. Were you still trying to come up with memories of hey dude? No, honestly, I was thinking about

ways to keep water from getting into your windows. Yeah, there's I had an idea recording this in the afternoon in Chicago after a massive rainstorm. A lot of flash flooding and what have you. Oh, yeah. And right when you showed up to record, I discovered that there was a a grotto forming in the middle of my living room. Yeah, there was a little I had a hot tub now and there were globalists in it. And I didn't know what to do. There were things laying eggs. There was a biodiverse ecosystem being built around this this oasis in your home. Yeah, I had no idea that somehow there was a leak or something and like it was just just a nightmare. And so hopefully that's the only one in the house.

Great. So that's fun. That's not my bright spot. No, no, that's not your bright spot. What is your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot is it is officially today the end of the dreamy creamy summer. That's true. And I will be crossing the 100 ice creams later this evening. I've not had it yet, but I am. I had I started the day off with a frosty chino from from Wendy's what it's a frosty in a cappuccino. Well, no, it's yeah. It's like a like a coffee, but then like the cream is frosty their frosty ice cream that that was an idea that took five minutes. And thank God, no need to rework that thing at all. Fantastic. Nine out of 10. I love that. Yeah, it's good. That was some that was some enterprising employee 20 years ago. It was

just like, Hey, buddy, I got an idea. I'm just going to put some frosty in your drink. Yeah, yeah, I want to end things with one of the suggestions that you actually had that I have not taken you up on yet. And that is the insomnia cookie, I believe cloud cookie, cloud cookie, the ice cream sandwich that you said was too much. It's going to blow your head off. Yeah. So I'm going to finish things off this evening with that cap off the the dreamy creamy summer. Perfect. Woo. Man, a lot of ice creams. Yeah. A hundred is a lot. I like that you got 99 on the morning of that's a good I might have had a number of things that I had already had. You know, padding, padding the stats a little bit. Listen, listen. What's it? What's it?

What's the difference between a rebound with five seconds left to go in the game and a rebound with 20 minutes on the board? It's all going on there. It's all the stat sheet. And I think there's some lessons that I've learned that I'd like to impart on the audience classics or classics for a reason. Yeah, you know, there's there's some things that you think like your basic ass 711 or grocery store ice cream sandwich. Sure. Comes in the white wrapper. Yep. Good. Never, never. Since you were three years old, you've eaten one. You don't know who makes makes those. There's something to it. And don't don't scoff. No, it's there's a reason that those are still in business. Yep. That's because they're fantastic. Second thing. Don't don't get too weird.

Um, like, okay. So frosties on the subject of frosties. Uh-huh. When I was growing up, there was a chocolate frosty. How was it? Right. Now there's a vanilla frosty. There's a strawberry frosty. It took him along. It took him a lot longer to get to vanilla than it really should. True. Yeah. They're not worth it. A chocolate frosty is great. It's as it's supposed to be. Yeah. And McDonald's. They have a McFlurry M&M and Oreo. Right. They've tried to branch out and every time it has been a whiff, don't do it. Yeah. Stick to the safe ocean. They can put Oreos and they can put Reese's in there, but they don't put Reese's. They put like the Reese's pieces and those are just I can't put those in. I think that McDonald's doesn't have a deal with Reese's.

I think that could be an issue. I think Reese's hates Ray Kroc or something. They just they won't give him rights. Man. Reese and McDonald had a fight. 400. Yeah. I also think that things like like a Dairy Queen, like a Blizzard and stuff. It's fine. Peanut Buster Parfait. I think it was. I didn't have one of those. I haven't had one in years, but I remember the ice cream, the peanuts, the fudge, and then the ice cream, the peanuts, the fudge, the triple layer or whatever. Amazing. It might be great for a child. I worked at Dairy Queen when I was younger and I have terrible memories of making dilly bars and what have you and I don't want to. I don't want to open that can of worms. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. They're

good. They're fine. But you know, whatever. Sure. Other things custard superior to frozen yogurt. For sure. Some of these fucking overpriced ice cream pints are so overrated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have no business charging as much as they do. Those parfait ones, those are a scam. There's like this much ice cream with them and then no, that's bullshit. And are you talking about those ones that are like the Sunday cup? Yes. Yeah, they are disgusting. There's too much universal gross. Yeah. Yeah. That's another thing. A big loser of the bracket for sure. It wasn't a bracket. Yes. The bunny tracks by Blue Bunny. Oh, they make a they make a bar on a stick. Yeah. Never heard of it. It's too much too much too much. It's busy. There's

like a stripe of fudge in it. There's peanuts. There's a rabbit shaped caramel filled chocolate things in it. No, no, I don't know what I'm eating. Yeah. So we'll see how this ice cream sandwich closes things out, but I'm excited for it. And the, you know, buttons are going out periodically. They're going out sporadically. Even the dreamy creamy summer has ended. This will go on for the next couple months or so. People will be getting buttons because I woefully underestimated it. Hey, come on. I underestimated the demand last time and I thought that'll be about the same. No, no, no, no, no, no, thousands of buttons going out. I have had to enlist the help of a business. Yeah. Frankly, I physically for the first time ever. I've been listening to business

make this many buttons. So I've had to outsource it. So there are some folks who have been curious about like, Hey, I haven't gotten my button yet, but some people are posting pictures. It's because they're going first come first serve basically in the email inbox. Yep. And even though the dreamy creamy summer's over, I'm going to keep these fundraisers on the go fund me open until we're done sending out the buttons. So if people care to chip in and support these great causes, there's a link. And yeah, this is enough of my bright spot. What's yours? My bright spot today, Dan, is there's a new show called Bee and Puppycat. Yeah, I know it is. But it's made by some of the people who made Adventure Time. So it is not.

It's it's more like that surreal uncanny point of view on a certain like almost magical magical girl, you know, like Sailor Moon kind of thing. But imagine a more like it's a it's a modern woman trying to deal with shit. And then stuff goes crazy, you know, and that's kind of but then also it's so very mundane at the same time that it it balance things. It balances things out with a almost non existent chiptune soundtrack. It's really, really interesting and good. I don't know if I would recommend it to anybody. Is it like bills? Yes, bills are piling up and then you have to have superpowers. Totally. Take odd jobs. Okay. Yeah, 100%. The at the at the end of the day, if you if she achieves is her goal, she gets like 50 bucks. Like with with magical powers,

all of this shit going on. One time she gets paid and change, you know, like it is a tough life out there for an intergalactic superhero of sorts. Is she a bee? No, she is not a bee. She's just a regular old gal. Okay. Yeah. Well, I'll not check it out, but I it does sound interesting and I'm glad you're enjoying it. Yeah, it's enjoyable. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over and we're going back to the past because I have been dealing with some stuff and I want to have a little treat and I always find going back to the past to be a treat much better. And like Alex is off on Monday doing is a and or Tate interview is going to air. Oh yeah, that's right. And you know, he's half out the door as it's talked to Ben and on Friday. Oh, okay. Yeah. And so yeah,

the past called me it back and and we'll talk about that. But here before we get into any of this business, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks. That's great idea. So first, Jill L. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. This person said that the name is supposed to be pronounced like it was in the Witcher and I have not watched the Witcher and I played the Witcher three, but it was on mute. So I had subtitles and I didn't I don't know how anybody pronounces anything. So as best I can tell it's brandy lion. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. I want it to be brand delian of some sort. You know, I don't really remember that anyway. Thank you very much. You

might be right. Yep. Next Jason, watch neon Genesis, Evangelion love Madison. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. You're smiling. Yeah, that's neon Genesis, Evangelion. Oh, sorry. No, no, no, do not apologize. But it's an anime. I guess that I think I've heard someone mention it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's an anime about forcing these children to pilot giant organic robots to defeat the existence of separation between consciousness. So child soldiers with a real like hard psych. Oh, and they don't they don't shy away from the child and child soldier. They torture that kid. I mean, boy, there's memes about just get in the robot. If you hear somebody say like get in the robot towards that meme, it buries

decades of torture. I liked easy kind of like not that heavy kind of entertainment. And that's why I listened to Alex Jones all the time. Yeah, I was going to say on this. No, no, no. The last four episodes are live action surreal adventure nonsense. Yeah. Next Daniel Jordan's dreamy creamy space hash. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And Sophia in Scotland. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Also might be Sophia. And we got a technocrat up in the mix here, George. So my info wars obsessed co worker has started buying pills and shirts from Alex. So I'm becoming a technocrat to balance, bring balance to the fight. Thank you so much. You're

now a technocrat. I'm a policy one star. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone someone Sotomayor sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much. Now, Jordan. Yeah, we left off on August 6th, 23rd or 2003. Right. The last time we were in the past. And so we picked up there and listen to the seventh. And it's just a man. It is desert. Yeah, that is to a T. He ends up having a little bit of a round table with a couple pastors who are complaining about how like they're trying to run a scam where they give teachers

credentials, but they aren't licensed to do it. And they're like, why is everyone so mad at us? Oh boy. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. So it's kind of a snooze and I had to skip past it. Round table with pastors is never fun. Right. So we get to Friday, August 8th. And there's actually something that I found really fascinating. And I think this is an incredibly helpful, teachable episode about Alex and how he operates. Okay. And the story that he tells has to do with the Child Protective Services and his feelings around it. Obviously he thinks that they're just out to kidnap your children. Yeah, we've interacted with the imaginary CPS in the past. Yes. And so he starts off the episode talking about this. There are over a

million and a half million and a half children taken each year by a federally funded child kidnapping services. That can't be true. And the argument is, well, you know, there are abusers out there. Yeah, you have criminal laws for that. You have police for that. And in the past, it was the churches and or private county organizations that handled it. And there were still a lot of problems with orphanages and abuse there as well. Because statistically, governments and agencies and orphanages, public or private abuse kids more than parents, statistically. So it's kind of a catch 22. You take kids from abusers and give them the people statistically that have an even bigger pension for abuse where criminals of all types are attracted

because they can then abuse people who are defenseless. And that's just the, you know, go get a master's degree in criminology, and you'll find out all about it. Okay, you go get a master's degree in criminology. It's the crime. He has two. You don't get to tell me you to do that blown right there. But I have to tell you, I mean, if you're the daughter or son of a crack dealer, you don't have a problem, folks. They don't want you. But if your middle class, if you don't know your rights, they they will get in a year $200,000 of federal funds. If they can string your toddler out on Redland Prozac. Oh, yeah, this is admitted. So this is this is something he's a there's a lot of this is pretty standard stuff from Alex's point. Sure something that

needs to be brought up to is this notion that the like child protective services doesn't need to exist because there are criminal laws for this. Yeah, a little bit of a weird perspective. No, the cops will come steal a kid and then they'll raise them in the precinct. And that's where we get cops. Sure. I think that sounds like a fun granite that you might watch. I think I think it's silly to act like this because there are laws and there are people who need to be specialized in dealing with certain laws, particularly sensitive type situations like family dynamics and abuse. And that's not that's not something that you would want to entrust to your normal beat cop or just someone who doesn't have some training in that field. Of course. So if you

don't have CPS, then you just have to take a unit inside the police department and turn them into CPS basically. Yeah. Yeah. No matter what you do for someone to accomplish the job you're looking for, right? Someone has to be there. Or you have to create a situation where like you don't do anything proactive. We don't do anything that is trying to, you know, address situations. And instead what we do is when there's something, when we get a murmur of like there's some abuse going on, we send in just your normal detective in there and I guess they arrest the parents and the kids can fend for themselves. I mean, it does feel like what they're doing is okay. So your parents are going to go to jail. You're going to be fine in this house by yourself?

All right. Cool. We'll see you later. We'll check it on you once a week or so. We'll bring you some folk. I don't know what the alternative for what Alex said. I guess it's just that the churches will take care of everything. It's kind of the same thing he has about like people not having insurance. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, yeah, doctors at churches will take care of you. Charities will do it. Community aid. That's great. Yeah. Some of that stuff was, it would be great if there was more of it, but relying on it institutionally and structurally seems like it's just a way to not want to pay taxes. You know, we created a government because we wanted community aid on a bigger level. Right. That's why we all pay the government to then provide community aid.

It's, yeah, it's, it's something like that. Yeah. So Alex has a story about the CPS taking a child and I do not believe that this is true. I've been to the hospitals, okay, where the mothers had a newborn baby, no criminal record and got some welfare, you know, was recommended with her first baby. Oh, come to the city hospital. It'll be paid for, you know, oh, I'll get some help. Come in, sign here, take the kid. You're at risk because you're both, you know, working blue collar jobs, but you got a house. Take the first kid at birth. What? And then I'm there to watch this woman. We go there and there's police stalking around. You name it. They're trying to make her sign documents. They're threatening her. Mike's got a hidden camera getting footage of this.

They're telling her, you better do it right now. The cops are going down and going, we're showing his teeth. What's your problem? So then the cops are bad for this. Grab us, threaten to arrest us, throw us out of the hospital. And then eyewitnesses that were still there. So they just grabbed her and squeezed her arm. We talked to her, of course, on the TV show, squeezed her arm and said, sign it. She did make the glass better. Grab the kid. You know, that's it folks. Yeah, I don't, I don't believe this story as it's told, although you do make a really good point. And I guess Alex's response that would be the old cops are only doing this because the CPS makes them do it or something like that. I'm sure there's a work around to this.

Okay. Okay. Yeah, but this is, I mean, this is scary if you're listening. This is something to be scared of. Yeah, I suppose the cops coming in and stealing your baby in broad daylight with all of these people around witnessing it. And only one of whom is apparently retelling the story. All of those people in the hospital, all of the doctors, nurses, all of the rest of the people never told this story once, but he's somehow been Mike Hanson, his cameraman, secretly recorded footage of this is conspicuous in its absence. I've not seen this. I've watched a lot of his content even from back in these times, his documentaries and what have you. I think this would be pretty shocking stuff. Boy, if I was telling this story, I'd be like, you know what,

let's play that footage right now. It'd be good. It'd be helpful. It would be contextual. But I think that it's more just a misrepresentation of something that he wants to present as this. They're going to steal your kids, but they are going to steal a particular kind of kid. Oh yeah. I bet there's I bet there's no hoops. As you heard, if you're a crack dealer, they don't want your kid. Right, Alex has to make things a little bit more explicit. I was going to say, and then it got even sicker. We then got the actual brief where they had had her flagged them a computer to the next time she went to a hospital. This is a, basically they were just picking the apple tree, you know, kidnap her, her second kid. They knew she was an easy pushover, her husband,

you know, you know, poor white folks. They go in and you know, these are prize babies, folks. I mean, they admitted their prize because they're white. They get a lot of money on them in the adoption after a couple of years of siphoning off money for raising them a bit. This is all admitted. It's all admitted. They want these prize white babies. Right. Right. What's the going rate for a white baby these days? I don't know, but I don't think this is a major concern for the Child Protective Services. No, I don't. Although for Alex, it seems to be front and center and all of this is being brought up and this is the theme and basically the entirety of this episode because Alex has found a story in the Denver Post that is going to, this is just

going to basically spiral from here. Okay. I can't stand it anymore. I'm pulling my hair out. I'm watching criminals engage in kidnapping and then nothing's done to them. This is the Denver Post who's outraged. Who's normally, you know, socialist and for all this, but it's even outraging Diane Carmen. Now, this is the Denver Post on infowars.com. We're updating it right now. Agency seizure of babies, still a sad mystery. Victoria Goodluck sat in the sweltering living room of her Westminster home Monday afternoon, her breasts robbing under the weight of so much milk, her baby girl born early Friday morning was in protective custody, protective custody, her five other children weren't. The kids peeked out of the window and played quietly as Adams

County social worker interviewed the parents and inspected the house and the family environment. Now they've already kidnapped the kid, wait to get to this, but now they're stomping around the house. No warrant. You get to the threatening people. I mean, they don't even care. So it's wild to learn that in 2003, the Denver Post was a socialist publication, especially considering that it was operated by media news group Incorporated, the second largest newspaper conglomerate in the country. Kind of seems like Alex might just throw that word socialist around randomly. Like it doesn't mean anything. It might mean just I disagree with them from time to time. Or they don't explicitly endorse the severely right wing politics that I love. I haven't met

them at a KKK meeting. Yeah, I haven't seen them there. So this is a story about a woman who had her child taken temporarily by Child Protective Services, but there are some very important details in the story that are going to be interesting to see if Alex ignores because the reality of the story does not work for the narratives that Alex is trying to build up about the CPS. Oh yeah, but they do if you lie. Ah, that's such a good trick. Yeah. Why do they always get away with that? So here Alex gets more into the story. The Reverend Heidi McGinnis of North Presbyterian Church insists that social workers in Denver Health Medical Center mistakenly assumed good luck and her husband Philip Gates were homeless. Now that's what they said in Austin.

They told the woman and we've been to a bunch of these. You can't leave. Stay right here. We've got people coming to help you with some services and the police come in. They stand on each side. They'll grab one by the arms. They'll go now it's time to sign. But folks, they do this out in the open. So one of the sources that's cited in the article is their pastor McGinnis. Right. And McGinnis has speculated that the hospital thought that they were homeless. Sure. And so Alex riffs about it a little bit. He covers the story a little bit more. Hospital officials conduct Denver Department of Human Services about their concerns for the child's safety on Saturday on Sunday morning. Two day old sunshine gates was whisked away.

Or as Miss McGinnis describes it, they stole our baby. Sue Cove, Human Services spokeswoman, said she could not comment on the case instead. She talked about policy praising her words carefully. When we get a referral, we're obliged to follow up on it. She said we rely heavily on family cooperation. Oh, God, I know Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment? What? I mean, yeah. So if you're just listening to Alex, you would not have very important context about this story that he's reading. And it's entirely intentional on his part. He tells the story he wants the audience to hear and hides the details that are inconvenient for his ability to spin a bullshit yarns. The biggest piece of information he's leaving out is that the family was unhoused a couple years prior. And

Goodluck's husband was quote, pretty sure that this had to do with outdated medical records. He believed that there was a misunderstanding that stemmed from medical records they had on file being from a time when they were experiencing homelessness, which makes the whole thing kind of make a lot more sense. Over the years since they've had tons of temporary addresses. So you can kind of understand how none of these would necessarily be in the medical records and CPS would be tasked with offering resources to an unhoused family having a child. Right. The second thing that Alex is not telling his audience is that the baby was put in CPS custody on Sunday and was returned to Ms. Goodluck on Monday evening. It's something that's unfortunate and may not

have been handled perfectly. And maybe shouldn't have happened. And likely if, you know, better record keeping was done by all parties involved, it wouldn't have. But this wasn't a kidnapping and it lasted around 24 hours. Right. It was about the amount of time that they needed to correct their clerical error and do the paperwork. Right. Right. Right. The third thing that Alex is leaving out in that for now, but we'll have to address later is that Goodluck is Navajo and her husband is Lakota. Alex is not bringing this detail up because he's trying to do this whole jag about how the system is really after white children as he expressed. Right. And to address that dynamic not existing in this big story he's covering would be kind of suspicious, especially if it's

indigenous people instead. And it leads to another major problem for his entire narrative. According to a 2017 release from the National Indian Child Welfare Association, quote, research and data from the states tells us that American Indian slash Alaskan native children are disproportionately represented or over represented in the child welfare system nationwide, especially in foster care. This means that higher percentages of AI slash a and children are found in the child welfare system than in the general population. The over representation of AI and children often starts with reports of abuse and neglect. It rates proportionate to their population numbers, but grows higher at each major decision point

from investigation to placement, culminating in the over representation of AI and children in placements outside the home. One study found that due in large part to systemic bias, where abuse has been reported AI and children are two times more likely to be investigated, two times more likely to have allegations of abuse substantiated, and four times more likely to be placed in foster care than white children. This disproportionality has gotten worse in the time sense, but the rate was still significant in 2003. But this is a dynamic that Alex is not equipped to deal with. He doesn't actually care about fixing real problems with how the CPS operates, and he's actually averse to even acknowledging those problems because for him, the CPS narrative

is really just a vehicle for him to engage in white grievance. To the extent that he will ever acknowledge that these are a Navajo mother and a Lakota father, he only will recognize it into like, now they're gonna do it to us. Now they're doing it to everybody. That is the way that he views this, and actually looking at the real dynamics is counterproductive for him. I mean, it's, and it's just such fucking bullshit of like, you are, you are at symptom number seven of the problem. That is, why were they unhoused in the first place? Let's start fucking way back when and go in what world are we allowing that to happen? And then you go back even further, and you go, not only are they unhoused currently in our terrible system, but they are from a people

who were genocided by everybody, and we're not, I mean- Well, and disproportionate taking of children is- Totally! And then from the beginning! Is not, not a part of genocid- Part of their genocide is the one, the doing of the thing that the boys, that we're doing! Yeah. Oh my god. Understood in its proper context, this story that Alex is covering is a prime opportunity to

discuss this very clearly discriminatory pattern in how these government entities treat native Further, it could be an opportunity to discuss the ways that benign mistakes, like out of date medical information, can lead to really difficult situations, but they don't necessarily have to lead to disasters. Either of these options would bring new, real, useful information to his audience, but neither would create the feelings that he wants to evoke, namely that all white people are under attack and the government is coming to take your children. Yeah.

Taking note of the details that Alex chooses to ignore about stories is often a really important part of understanding his editorial process and illustrating what it actually is that he considers important. Right. The truth is informing the audience isn't important, the truth itself isn't, but spreading racially based fear is pretty super important. Yeah. And I want to be totally clear about this.

Alex is excluding information actively and intentionally, so the audience doesn't get the full picture. After he comes back from break, he continues reading the article and this is fucking damning. Goodluck said she told the hospital admissions personnel her address, but while I was there, people kept coming up to me and asking if this is right. See, swarming because a lot of them get cuts of cash. She didn't understand it. No, didn't understand the new 1984 cesspool we live in.

The family had lived in Denver area months and it goes on. Here's what Alex accidentally started reading and then stopped himself mid-sentence. Goodluck said she told hospital admissions personnel her address, but while I was there, people kept coming up to me and asking if this is right. She didn't understand it. The family had lived in a Denver area homeless shelter for about six months in 1999 and later in a basement apartment provided by a member of the church where Philip Gates has become an ordained elder.

It's just one chapter in the family's struggles. Right. Alex, you heard him say they had lived in a Denver area and then stopped right there. Yep. Right there at the word homeless because that validates why there might have been concern that went awry, obviously not handled perfectly in this situation, but it gives an explanation for why this situation is happening. Right.

Why there was cause for the people to think that maybe she was unhoused. Right. And he can't let that be. It has to be a random thing where there's evil intent on the part of these CPS people. He's lying to his audience and it's so clear when you hear him drop off right there when reading this, it's so fucking obvious. Yeah, that's, that's fucked. That's just fucked.

I'm, I'm, I'm actually more, I'm happier when he's making shit up whole cloth because that's just sad and evil. Like that's an actual bad thing to do. Well, it also very clearly shows that he didn't read this before he decided to dedicate an entire show to anti CPS narratives based on or at least sort of bolstered by this kind of bullshit. Well, see, yeah, at least seemingly precipitated by him reading this story. Yeah, you know, this story is the launching point for him to have a show all about the

CPS and the evils of it. Right. And he does, he doesn't even read it. He didn't even read it. This was before he spent three hours every morning reading and then did a show and then spent five hours every evening reading. This was before he got serious Dan and started doing a lot more drugs. Yeah, I'm sure.

So this is also bullshit. Okay. Gates who was a tribal policeman said he was shot while working on a joint investigation with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration. It goes on to talk about the family. This guy's a veteran cop and I've been to church and I mean, and they're not going to get your kid back. I understand that.

They don't care. They want this to be in the paper. Didn't they already get their kid back by this time? Yeah. Oh man. Wow. That is just absolutely amazing. Alex is not telling his audience that the family had already got the kid back by the time

the article he's reading was published. He's also stopping himself from disclosing the part where it says that Gates is permanently disabled because of that shooting that he mentions, which naturally would be even more cause for child welfare services to be interested in providing whatever assistance they can. This stuff works against Alex's narrative though. So it's censored from the most uncensored and most unfiltered news program in the world. Totally. Alex, like everyone just hates him because he's too truthful though, really.

I mean, like that's the reason that everyone thinks he's a piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah. Not because he's a fucking intentional liar. Because he speaks truth to power and threatens the people. You know, I mean, it is so weird when we can separate it because he's doing a radio show. But essentially, if she was there holding her baby, he would be looking in their eye screaming, you're never going to get that baby back.

And then she's like, I'm holding it. And he's like, this is crazy. Just out of the, these people are 1984-ing all over the place here. I'm holding the baby. But he's on the radio. So it's like, oh, I don't even notice this person isn't exact existing the way they're supposed to. Just abstract him. He doesn't give a shit.

Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Gonna just fake emotion and lie. I mean, people are real. Is that a, is that a conversation that we need to have with Alex of like other people exist? I know that we do think that he has a bit of a solipsism to him. He has trouble with object permanence. That's definitely true.

So yeah, I don't know. It's certainly more in the present than it was in the past, but maybe it's, maybe it's always been there. Yeah. You know, if you give your children John Birch books before you teach them object permanence, I think we wind up here. So yeah, you have just this real nonsense demonstration here. He has, he's lying very intentionally about this article

as a way to push his anti-CPS politics. So look, it goes to another break. Sure. And maybe he accidentally read the article during the break. Ooh, that's a bad idea. He had a good chance. Now, in Austin, Texas, in your poor and blue collar and go in for some help having your child, about a third of the time they take your kid and you don't get a buck.

That's so many times. In this case, they have gotten the child back. When I say they're never getting their child back again, they're probably going to show back over and over and over and over again. Sure, sure, sure. Because they've done in many of these cases. And this happened mainly because he was a police officer. He knows why they're doing this.

Yeah, that's why it happened. Yep. So he read the article because he's correcting himself that they got their kid back. Right. Right, right, right. Yeah. He's aware of that information now, but you know, assuming that he has read the article, he now knows, you know, the thing that he's censored himself from saying.

And now he's just saying it's because the guy is a cop. But he's not. He's not a cop. No, he's not. He was a cop 22 years ago. Who was shot. Yeah. In the line of duty.

Yeah, and is permanently disabled for it. It is now a church elder. Right. So great. Good work. Yeah, I just think this is trash. I find it to be awful. And then it gets even worse because this whole pageant goes on for quite a while.

And then Alex has a guest and it's his water filter sponsor. Sure. I mean, he's got a few filters. The only I know of that's not reverse osmosis that will actually remove this garbage. And it's portable. It's awesome. Jim, thanks for being on with us. Always a pleasure, Alex.

And by the way, I always enjoyed listening to your rant and rave. I don't know where you get all your information. You've got to be a prodigy to get all this stuff and cram it in your head and get it out. Well, I mean, it's it's my webmaster. It's my wife. It's it's a violence. It's Paul Joseph Watson. It's a people that email me all these.

This is what I got stacks of stories this bad today. And I've already spent 35 minutes on it. I mean, the paper has to admit this is evil. Yes, I find it really sad. I mean, they're in a commercial relationship. So you don't expect necessarily to push back. Right, but it's just weird to be like, God, you are so smart. You got so much information in that bean after we've just listened to him make shit up.

I mean, and intentionally leave out information that is illuminating about a story. There is there is that con man kind of feel that you just like it still blows my mind whenever you feel that actual con man feeling of that person saying, wow, you are smart. Right. Do somebody clearly making everything up? And it's just like they got taken in and that's it. But again, it's the commercial relationship makes it like maybe he just put he's putting that aside and blown smoke.

Yeah, I would imagine that if you have reservations now is not the time. Yeah, yeah. So the other thing that I was thinking about that I think is a really good point that is that Alex could recognize every piece of information about this article and still tell the story that he wants to tell. He would have a more difficult time with it. Perhaps he could not paint the picture that the CPS is randomly just accusing people of being unhoused or something and like using that false accusation as an excuse to steal

their child. He perhaps couldn't do that. But you'd have to open it up. You could open it up into a like that is not cause to take someone's child. Sure, sure, sure. You know, there's there's ways that he could incorporate all this information, but it's more difficult. And it's more difficult in a way that leads you to actual solutions.

It leads you to reforming the system that is there as opposed to creating a cartoonish version of it to be mad about and demand to be demolished. Well, and ultimately it just simply allows you to identify as I mean, despite Alex insisting that this only happens to white people, it allows you to identify with somebody non white which cannot happen on this show. They're Bolton. So Alex takes some calls and naturally he gets calls from people who have situations with trouble with the children and CPS type stuff.

They made it up in there. So he's got a caller and this caller is having a difficult time with her child. And Alex has some weird things to say. It got to the point. She was diagnosed with ADHD by the time the state was done. With her, she had nine different labels, psychiatric labels. Okay. How do they take her from you and put her out in California?

Well, she was given to actually the father who abandoned her at birth, who had the history of abuse in this situation, but she was sent to live with him. And how is she doing now? She's a mess. I mean, she does her life has been very hard. Well, you need to tell her, you need to tell her, you need to, I wish I had time to talk to her in person. I was looking her eyes and say, energize, break these bonds.

In the name of Jesus Christ. What? And if she really has faith, I'm telling you, I've seen people healed of this bondage. She needs to get off all drugs. Yeah, Alex would faith heal. Wow. He would put his hand on her forehead and push her to the floor. And then when she stood up, she would go back and live with her mom.

Energize. Um, I don't remember exactly where this woman is calling from, but I think that they're really dancing over something. If this child was given, the custody was given to a father who hasn't been in her life, who lives in a different state. There's something going on here. And it's not just she got these diagnoses that I disagreed with. Yeah.

That there's something really messed up here. There's a larger story. And dealing with, uh, people who are telling these stories and being like, yeah, you're totally right. Yeah, especially if they're unreliable narrators. It seems really irresponsible. I mean, yeah, you wouldn't, I wouldn't want to be like, you know, I mean, what you should I do, I guess is say, thank you for your call.

And then he can stop talking. But I mean, if you wanted to keep talking, then you would have to ask like further probing questions. Like, okay. Well, this doesn't do that. Exactly. They just yell about how CPS. Oh, you're, you're totally right. No, you're totally right.

Yeah. And the, and then the caller says this and it just bombs me the fuck out. And I just really want to thank you for your strength and your conviction, Alex. And I listened to you just about every day as often as I can. I stopped doing what I'm doing to listen and learn on what I've learned. And I've lost a lot of friends along the way. And I've lost a lot of my family. Well, that's what happens in Nazi Germany.

A lot of people want to serve the Hitler system. Yes. A lot of people want to serve at all Hitler. And so they don't like you saying what Hitler's doing is wrong. They think all this is normal. Yes. Yeah, that is a bummer. That's called shit.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's boy. I study your broadcast and I tell people in my life about it and I've lost friends and family because yeah, I mean, when you start with my child was sent to live with a father, she didn't really know in a different state and then end with I've lost friends and family because I tell them all about what Alex Jones says all the time. Then I mean, you're starting to put some things together. There's not that's not the full picture.

And it's so bad for I know Alex can't behave any other way really, but it's so bad for him to be like, yeah, that's because they can't handle the truth. They love worshiping Hitler. Yeah. It's just doubling down on this this abusive influence. Yeah, you're never going to see a cult leader be like, hey, listen, you might be going a little bit too far with my bullshit. How about you step back, right?

Go out, go, go hang out with your friends at the at the sonic or whatever it is you kids do, and then come back and we'll get back into this cult stuff. Ma'am, this is supposed to be a fun con and you're really bumming me out. Lady, I'm just trying to screw people out of money. And now you're telling me I'm hurting them. This is going to be tough for me to look in the mirror, but I will try and smash all of my mirrors. I'll deal with my wounds by rubbing money on them.

Yeah, that'll do it. Feel better. I'll buy another house. So that's a bummer. And I think we need to feel a little bit better by going to something a little more fun. And that is it's time to go to Alex's memories of his past corner. I like it. Here's a fun story about Alex in high school.

Another dead dog. No. Oh, this is what they do. And I've seen it a thousand times. Folks, I was a straight A plus. Dude, I was in high school. You know, I screwed around. I was on the phone calls.

Didn't go to school, you know, quite a bit, play hooky, all that stuff. By the time I was a sophomore, into my sophomore year, junior, senior, by the time I was a senior, I was making 100, 100, 100, 100, 98, 99. I mean, my report card was a joke. It was so good. I think when I got that is a joke that that year was a 99 average or something. I mean, it was ridiculous. There was somebody who had a hundred.

So of course, you know, they get all the awards. Yeah. And so I was done with school. That's why you didn't get the credits. So, you know, they had me in their first period to be a assistant. I would walk around and bring the notes to the class for people that had to come to see the counselor. Little did I know to be secret police, you know, to be set up or whatever,

to be brought to the principal. So that's so Trump right there, man. It's like my report card was so good. It's a joke. I mean, yeah, like the best report card in this is 2003, man. They were born for each other. They really were. So apparently Alex at this point in high school is getting perfect grades and basically

every class and also he's constantly having sex with and impregnating adult women as well as fellow students and getting abortions. And he's a Satanist. Also, yeah, he's being recruited into a satanic ring run by the elites in Rockwall who wanted to stop him from fulfilling his destiny of being the lynchpin in God's plans to vanquish the devil. Also at some point in the middle, he uncovered a drug dealing conspiracy. The Rockwall Police Department who threatened to kill him. His dad didn't move him to Austin.

Also, he's getting into constant street fights because black people wouldn't stop harassing him because he was white. Right. Also, he smoked crack a couple of times. He did say that. What an amazing, almost unbelievable backstory. It is. I think unbelievable is the operative word there for Alex's self mythology.

I would say a little bit overstuffed. If I was describing the plot of this movie here, I would say overstuffed. Streamline. Yeah. Streamline. Focus on a few important details. Also, look, I didn't get good grades in high school and I did end up dropping out before I went to college.

00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,040 I dropped out of high school, but I was friends with a lot of nerds. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah. And I knew I was friends with the guy who was the valedictorian of the class before me a year older than me.

And look, they don't just choose one person who gets accolades. Like, nope. There's like, first of all, I dropped out of high school and I was a national merit scholar. Of course you were. So like there are national merit scholars. There are all kinds of people who get scholarships to colleges. There is the valedictorian. There's like there's sometimes co valedictorians.

There are the other like cum laude even like in in high school. Sure. Like I remember there being like four people who are like the like not not like president, vice president, treasurer, secretary or anything. But there was like the valedictorian creeper. The other people who were who were like got real damn good grades. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If Alex was second to one guy who got all 100.

I mean, it's borderline bronze, silver, gold, metals kind of situation. Nonsense, Alex. Also in high school, my buddy Cole, he helped out with the counselor's office going around and delivering passes to students who had appointments so they could be, you know, they wouldn't be counted as tardy or truant in their class. Sure. And that dude definitely didn't have all A's. He just had an open period and the counselors liked him.

But I guess in Alex's case, they were really trying to secretly deputize him or some shit. I think that would have been the first step. You know, like we've talked about the school to prison pipeline, but we don't talk about the school to globalism pipeline. Right. Which is through the counselor's office. Absolutely. Who else would be there?

They're not busy. Yeah. The counselors loved Cole. I would sometimes come and help him hand out passes because I would just skip class. Just fucking. Yeah. Why not? And they would always like whenever he'd walk in, they'd be like, big sexy. It was the best. They love that is great.

That is great. So yeah, apparently for Alex, it was much darker. I like a more collegial relationship between teachers and students in high school. That was not the case for me. It was very, very confrontational. And I'm sure that was probably mostly my fault. I feel like, you know, it went both ways for me. Some some teachers, it was very confrontational.

And then some were far more like treated treated you like a almost like a little equal. You know, there was that one of my my my my favorite teacher did say like, well, if they didn't fuck around with you, then you they wouldn't have had a problem as as like a like, that's probably not what you should tell to a 14 year old. Probably not. Probably not. But I mean, he did have a point. Yeah.

He didn't fuck around with me and we had a great time. Yeah. I had a broadcast production class and the teacher was guy named Ron Widbin. It was the best. And he I was in the class three years in high school. I had a key to the room because I had like an editing bay. Nice. And so I would come like after hours and edit video and stuff.

And so the class was mostly just about making stories for the public access. Like there was a show called 16 minutes. That was the schools. The students make stories about the local community. Sure. And then Ron Widbin's the host of 60 minutes, but you only get 16. Yeah. Yeah.

And so we were just told we could make whatever stories we wanted. Sure. And so I would get not something you should tell a 14 year old. I did one story about how secretly chess club was like a hotbed of communism at the high school. And so I had my friend Matt pretend to be like we I did a plant and like one of the guys in the chess club was a friend of mine. And so he played along with it. That's great.

The guy who sponsored the chess club like the teacher and I were also on friendly terms. So he was messing around with it. He was all about it. So I made this story and I turned it in to be aired and Ron he was just like he would always just be like Dan you're killing me. You're killing me. What do you do? But he'd still he'd still put it on.

Oh that's good stuff. That's good stuff. I like it. I like that. Okay. That's that's a good teacher move where you're like you're doing this wrong. But also come on baby you're on the screen. Yeah.

So anyway Alex was Gestapo for the counselor's office or something. I mean man that's just one of those things that I hate when people lie about. Why why would you lie about it? The only thing I'm incredibly insecure. I know but like the only thing I've learned after high school is how stupid all of the information on the tests was because the better information was everywhere else. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean I think if you do well in school and you're proud of it there's nothing to be ashamed of. That's great. I think that if you didn't do well in school and you're lying about it because you want people to think you did well in school. That's not good. No. That's not good. You got to stop doing that.

Just be like hey hey listen I didn't get good grades in school. See now we're off to the races buddy. Right. Easy peasy. Oh it's that M&M line. Stupid as shit. Rich is fucking proud of it. That's the way you do it.

So Alex has another story from his youth in school. Yeah. This one's a little bit longer because it's a little bit confusing. Where's Ronson for all of this. So this should be an episode that he is he's listening to this story being like what the fuck. He shouldn't be allowed to say that.

We're going to need a fact check on this one. We're going to need a Ronson here. I'm down there and I told the story a few times. Let me tell it briefly then I'll go to Jim and others. I'm down there in the in the in this is Anderson high school. And we had some some some some general at the time literally a army reserve generalist are what was his name as our as the principal. And I would actually do the work and he just loved it.

He'd order me around. I'd unload giant pallets of paper and do all this stuff and I didn't care. And one day I mean it was like a month before school got out. I had this horrible headache and I knew I said I'm getting the flu. And you know 17 years old I still had to call mommy so I could drive home. You know had my had my Mustang out in the parking lot. Not called. I go in the nurse's office.

You get technically he goes oh yeah 101 looks like you're getting the flu. I'm like yeah I just want to go home. He goes well before you call your mother you're pretty good looking. And I mean what's a real good look at it 17. And I'm going to wait now. You know blonde hair blue eyes. I knew the story was made up at the beginning. But what's 185 pounds.

What a weight. And I would just look like Bruce Lee folks. There's photos of me out there on the Internet. The one time one of my friends in a picture of me. Looked and waits for the paper. And I got put in the paper. And I was about 20. But the point is great.

She's hitting on me. She's a pretty good looking. She's a blonde herself 30 years old. She goes yeah. She goes you use drugs. And I go I'm wearing a polo shirt slacks. And you know Popsider shoes. And I go do I look like I use drugs.

Yes. And I mean at that time I didn't even drink coffee. I go I don't even drink coffee. I remember this very gross memory of this. She says well you never want to you know. She started hitting on me. You know you never want to go out. Because I guess it was about a month

till I was out of high school. So she was there was like a month till school got she was she was hitting on me. I'm sure. And so I'm sitting there and this is happening. And she says I use drugs. And I go no. She goes you like you like speed.

I said I said no. I just told you I don't. I don't want it. No. I said why are you asking me all this. Because I want to get fucked up. She watches me every morning in first period. Walk around in there.

You know do it all the work for these people. I brought supplies into her before when it came off the truck. And she says well I want to give you the card to a doctor. You've got a lot of energy. He said Ritalin it's like speed you'll like it. I mean folks. A love affair began. Okay.

Yeah. So he had a flu. The nurse wanted to fuck him. And also she wanted to give him speed because he had a lot of energy. So let's get him more energy. What is this. I am.

This is a story that happened. I am. Here's the way. Here's how I feel like this story actually happened. Alex was kind of sick. Not that sick. Wanted to go home anyways. So he's going to give his mom a call.

Gets the temperature and they're like okay. And then while I've got you here. Let me ask you a question. Are you doing drugs right now. That's I mean that's possible. And then it's like hey you know you have to give me drugs and fuck me. You have ADHD. You know.

So there's this medication out there. I don't know. Maybe it might help you deal with some of your. You trying to fuck me. 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,280 Great. No no no. Go home.

Go home please. I have a story that's so glad school is going to be out in a month. I have a story that's kind of close to this but it's not really. And a teacher trying to pick me up or anything. 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:23,360 Sure. Sure. But in college I went to the student health center because I had a strep throat.

And I couldn't like I couldn't swallow pills. I didn't know what was going on. I hadn't I hadn't had it before. And so like I had a terrible fever. And so the guy who was the the doctor at the student health center gave me some liquid steroids to take. And he did say careful this is what the rappers rap about. That's that's the way you do it.

And it's not like he was trying to give me drugs. Nope. But he that was a little bit inappropriate but in a delightful. I really enjoyed it. Yeah. That's great. Also the the the very what would I say uptight way of describing this is what the rappers rap about.

He might have said the rappers sing about. That's that's taking up another level. He wasn't like an old out of touch person or anything. No of course not. So he's a professional framing of it. His phrasing was still weird. But yeah I can still remember that 20 years later is a delightful moment where I'm like 100 something fever just like unable to swallow a pill.

And just like this is the purple stuff. Every now and again there are those moments where I'm like what if I could run into that person. You know after it's because there are tons of those little memories you have where you're like this person has no idea that because they flicked a penny at me 20 years ago that is in my brain forever. Like I want to go talk to them and have them have that very validating feeling of I have no idea what you're talking about sir. Like that kind of thing.

I think you would probably come off real crazy because you would you'd be like all right here's what happened. Here's where this is how important this is to me. Nope. This is how important it is to me. You don't care at all but I need to bother you. So we get we had a fun time in that corner of Alex's remembrance. Yeah.

Yeah. Nonsense. Where was the satanism in that story. Non-existent. Yeah I want more satanism in all of these stories. Well actually the school nurse was working on behalf of the satanist who are trying to get out on speed that helps. In order to take him away from his connection with God because he was going to be so important

in the plot against the devil later on. We've solved it. Yep. So now something really fucked up happens. Okay. I can't believe that this happened. Alex has the dad from the Denver Post story on as a guest. No.

Yes. No. Yes. No. So let's go ahead and go to the Reverend Heidi McGinnis of the North Presbyterian Church saying that social workers are out of control and oh yeah that's putting it lightly. And of course the husband as well the father Mr. Gates who are now both on the show with us. Thanks for coming on.

I appreciate it. Who would like to make some comments about what's developed first the Reverend or Mr. Gates. Sounds like we got people on speaker phones or something's whistling in the background. So yeah he has them on which is crazy because this is so much more disrespectful. He hadn't read the article before he got on air but they had booked them as guests on that show. I was floored by this. Listen if you do like a nightly talk show I didn't I didn't think that John Stewart read every book of the person he was interviewing that night.

I bet he skimmed through it. I bet he did his best for every book. I bet he read more than some people might think. I bet he read a lot more than advanced copies equate to a say single article. I bet he read more than a thousand words of every single one of those books. I would guarantee it. Well those like those interviews are probably booked pretty well in advance. I think that one of the things that's really weird about this is like this is 2003

like his wife is probably booking the show right. I mean like he doesn't have a big team at this point. He doesn't have his Daria. How did this happen? I understand the booking happening. Sure. That makes sense to me. Sure.

You can reach out to them see if they want to come on and do an interview. Happens two seconds. Absolutely. How does it happen that you know you're going to do this interview and you don't read the article and you whiff the story essentially? How is it that you didn't even have somebody give you the CliffsNotes version of the article? Yeah. You know.

How do you have to correct yourself that they got their kid back? I mean that's crazy. That's crazy. That is the central thing to the story. How do you seem to be caught off guard in the middle of the story that the guy is a cop? Yeah. That's not good. No.

That's a pretty big detail. So look. They don't talk about the past homelessness. Sure. Alex steers away from a lot of the like germane issues. Right. Because he wants to just talk about like hey let's talk about how evil these people are. He wants to talk shit.

Normally a social worker will count coup. You know what that term is. Yes. Normally it's an Indian term. Wow. An Indian American term. Well normally they will but all cultures do it. Yes.

After the victory was there a child grabbing celebration? Did she make any comment or what was there a smile? I believe she stepped out of the hallway and she was out in the hallway for a while. We were not sure what went on but the charge nurse that was in charge of the of the floor there said that she was kind of upset by what had happened out there. We didn't get her version of what was but we stayed in the room. Well wait the charge nurse was upset by what she saw. Yes.

Because she saw a vampiric celebration dance and literally folks I've seen them do it. So you watched a culture of death dance. This must have been horrible. Oh boy. She did the robot out in the hallway. I was going to say what is the vampiric celebration dance? Well it's the robot because it's dehumanizing. It's taking a human and taking on the characteristics of a robot.

Do vampires traditionally want robots? Yes. Oh I did not know that. Oh okay. In Alex's world the metaphorical robots or the metaphorical vampires want literal robots. See because I'm seeing something more along the lines of like Ray Lewis's celebration dance in because this is 2003 right. So Ray Lewis and the Baltimore Rave and still wrecking the world you know.

And so I'm assuming that like she burst out of the door and then like did one of those with the things. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Have you seen the dance? I have. I have yeah. Yeah I don't know.

I don't know what they're doing. So yeah Alex just wants to create these images. These like evil images that are that are evocative for the audience. The story is good for bringing those up and selling them to the audience. Totally. The feeling is what's important. When he interjects before he's like like he's talking to the father and the father is trying to tell the story.

And so whenever Alex says like oh she was smiling wasn't she he's like well I mean she did leave the so he's implanted into that guy's mind before we even go any further that it's possible in fact likely and then later guaranteed and true that she did a dance. And we're not entirely even sure based on the way he's telling this like what the charge nurse was talking about like did you think it was inappropriate what went on totally in the room the conversation that the the CPS people had with the mother it's unclear but it doesn't really matter on the show because it's all just just fuel on the fire of hating the CPS.

Yep. So one of the things that is clear is that the Reverend McGinnis and this father are both upset with the CPS and one of the things that they want to make clear is that there should be ways to stop these processes when they're being done in error. Right. You know they're not talking about overthrowing the CPS like Alex is. No. Safeguard.

Right. If there is something that is erroneous outdated information that people are acting on there should be a way to put a halt in the proceedings so they don't go so far as to remove a child. Exactly. When you're just going to have them away for 24 hours or whatever like it's there should be safeguards basically and Alex is not in agreement on this. Oh of course not. We want to say that there are many dedicated social workers and we're certainly not

that do act in good faith. We're certainly not declaring war on them. What we what we are really shocked about is that there is no mechanism in place to put a break on these proceedings because you know Alex I think your listening audience and I we know that on hospitals on weekends hospitals usually the offices have kind of a slowing down effect and what we're shocked and outraged about is the great speed with which this child was yanked away from her mother's death. Ma'am you can say they're not declaring war.

They declared war on us. Sure there's a few good people in the system but when you get into the CPS area they have a mandate by the government. I've read the documents on air. This is a business. This is about breaking up the family and I think if you found out the full ramifications you'd be shocked the hospitals city hospitals interface with these people and actually profit from it.

I just want you to know that. So I think that kind of illustrates the dynamic that's involved. There is an awareness campaign something that is legitimate on the part of this family and this reverend a request something that is a structural improvement that I think even people within the CPS would be like you know what that is something that needs to be addressed. That's something that we could do a better job on. If you just said to a regular CPS employee all day every day just like hey maybe we don't rip newborns from their mother's hands like maybe we just don't do that.

They'd be like yeah I think that makes sense. And Alex has a different take on it and yes burn it all down and they're at odds and you can see that Alex doesn't respect his guests perspective. He wants to get them to mirror his perspective because that's what's important and that's what we'll sell the feeling to the audience that he needs to sell them in order to keep them in that cult like state like that one caller who bumped us out earlier. No I mean part of it is you know it is a little bit like he's trying to red pill them at the same time you know like when we when we're at the trial you know he's trying to red pill the

jury and he's thinking he's doing it like on the phone right here he's like don't you guys want to start a fucking war like no the war is already started no it's not they started it on us no so this was the eighth now the friday yeah and we're going to jump to the monday show because it's kind of also a wasteland not much going on but there is something really big going on okay paul joseph watson my webmaster from president planet dot com he's also a great writer has written his debut book it is order out of chaos elite sponsored terrorism and the new world order 334 pages long i've published it and you can get it at info wars dot com or president planet dot com by linking through who are secure online shopping cart so please take advantage of that

and paul joseph watson will be joining us to talk about the dr david kelly murder yes there's more evidence that it's a murder than a suicide and they're calling it a suicide so uh with no evidence of that so we're going to call it a murder here but that's where the preponderance of the evidence is going so this is about a month after kelly died and alex has presented literally no new information past the vague insinuations he used to call kelly's death a murder when he first covered it right this is something that the alex jones is always right about stuff crowd should really think about uh the protracted long um nonsense narratives that he gets up to yeah also i love the way that alex catches himself mid sentence there he's saying that the media is calling kelly's

death a suicide with no proof and he almost said so we're going to call it a murder with no proof yep it was so gross he really did he really did have a certain amount of like yeah if they're gonna do it then i'll do it right back to him energy to him yeah it was right there oh also paul's book is out yeah and that is just an opportunity for me to say that in my hand i have a copy of the great reset alex's book oh my god i unfortunately did buy a copy of it yeah i bought it through amazon though so alex's enemy bezos would make a little money which honestly it's just me cutting myself in both directions yeah i mean yeah that's that's great it's a double life sword um but hey uh it sucks i've read a little bit of it so far yeah it's uh it's not good i

believe it and we'll uh we'll talk about that in greater detail at a later date yeah you know it's maybe maybe the next time we have some like really monumental episode number like seven forty eight something what are we on now seven twenty something something like that yeah great we're some random number seven thirty seven it'll be our flight episode oh we'll fly out of here yeah seven fifty seven seven seven seven seven i really don't know how high it goes is there a seven eighty seven no but seven seven seven that's like a lottery that's like that's true if alex ever did a show in vegas for seven seven seven that's what we should cover that is what we would cover yeah yeah huh anyways book sucks and so does paul's yeah but the david kelly narrative

is now growing it is no longer just that this was a guy who's going to blow the whistle about the iraq war right the weapons of mass destruction stuff now he's hanging out with saddam hussein's kids no no no but it goes deep uh also microbiologists would link to race based weapons herning up dead which tells me the globalists are about to start releasing that this is from the american pre-press uh dr david kelly of course was involved in bio weapons of race specific systems gordon thomas this is very important yeah so now i don't recall kelly being involved in race specific systems i mean you worked important down and that means that alex can say anything that's there that's true so yeah the race specific bio weapon right people are dying

and david kelly is an example of one of the murders that the globalists are doing to cover up their race specific bio weapon because they're about to release it there is a preoccupation that alex has with race specific bio weapons oh you think yes i wonder what race it is he wishes weren't uh hit by a race specific i have some i have some theories it is it is ironic that he's he's never been like and you know what would be terrible a race specific not bio weapon that is a bio weapon for all other non-race specific bio weapon you know what i'm saying like that's kind of what he wants well i think it's i think the people who don't listen to his show much um you might hear some of the the covid stuff let's say like especially in the early days of covid when he was like this is a race

specific bio weapon sure sure sure um and you'd think like oh that's an interesting angle he's going on right not realizing he does this shit all the fucking time like the rip race specific bio weapons are always somehow it was very specific for a while like yeah and it was it's always been like at the end of the day man white people are the only people that matter that's what he's trying to get across that's his his raison d'etre so paul is on and um they talk about his book a little bit uh but alex has a another little little theory that um it this hasn't panned out well also here at h e b an h e b about a half a mile from where i'm sitting where i'm nesting right now is is the clip i have in police state three where i go in

and they've got the sign up that soon we're going to have inquis fingerprint readers will have to do it here to buy stuff uh to buy and sell uh to big pages is oh i've already read that before and i talked to her go well is this hooked into the to the police she goes uh huh yeah yeah it's hooked in to you know check you when you thumb print that you are you say you are the driver's license database and uh well there it is the signs were going in and then in some of the stores the thumb scanners are going in and simultaneously at the home depot by my house guys they pulled out just three of the checkout lanes about a year ago they pulled out you know they have about 15 lanes or 12 lanes they pulled out three where it would be self-serve you scan

your own stuff do your own stuff well now it was in there last week and now they've pulled out three more now there's six and i've read the federal plans they're going to pull them all out you're going to go in they're going to say for security and see after they get the self-serve in then they put the thumb printer in which they're now doing i mean this is so sneaky folks go ahead uh well we we also had the um article a couple of weeks ago out of um america where mcdonald's are introduced in these self-serve counters as well as many different supermarkets people need to recognize that it's not just about the government tracking what you buy it's about them having the ability to refuse purchase on any particular product still waiting on those thumb scanners and police

id databases to go into the grocery stores 19 years later here we got wireless cards like three years ago and like honestly if you don't sign the back of your debit or credit card when you use it people are supposed to ask for your id and they don't do that even so it seems like uh what was going on here and alex's theory maybe wasn't a real thing and maybe the move towards automation was more about cutting down operating expenses by eliminating human workers also i assume that if this clip that alex is describing is real it was a woman just being like yeah whatever yeah just i don't want to talk to you yeah that would make sense also paul seems to have no idea what he's talking about right now mcdonald's can refuse to serve you for any reason as long as it's not because you're a

member of a protected class if someone's making a scene they can be refused service if you suspect that someone's drunk you can refuse service if someone's barefoot or wearing no shirt you can refuse them service as long as you're not discriminating based on protected classes you have the right to run your business how you see fit like for instance it's not illegal for a high end restaurant to refuse to serve you if you don't fit their dress code or like a hotel can not take a reservation from you if you stayed there before and you caused a problem they can do that they can refuse service they do have that right paul technically says that putting in self-checkout is about being able to deny purchase of some particular product but this makes less sense yeah is he

suggesting that i might one day go to mcdonald's and they'll refuse to sell me anything but a mcchicken because they think i've had too much red meat that day like that seems like what he's saying and that's bizarre i think i'm gonna go further if he's saying that it's the self-checkout thing that's doing it then that would suggest to me that you're bringing all of these items you're checking that beep beep and you get an item that they're like no no no you don't get to buy eggs right like i i don't understand i i do how is that helpful there's not even a person there to stop me that i could just steal it and put it in my bag right right i steal shit from the self-checkout line by accident all the time mm-hmm yeah david drake has that joke about

everything is bananas yeah everything is bananas but look it is actually about this yes oh okay they're gonna be able to tax you so no matter you'll still be able to pay cash but they're going to swipe the card so it keeps a record of that thus making it cashless and then you're going to have all these different little taxes depending on what you're getting and and and it says the ground hamburger won't be taxed as a fattening food unless you buy too much of it for that month so it's actually introducing rationing and then they're going to say well we have to do this tracking so terrorists don't attack the food supply see how they always have the terror excuse to implement but then when you read their own reports it's about taxation and control so this

is dumb but also the the tracking your purchases of food would have no effect on being able to protect the supply chain from any kind of terrorist influence right like the consumer end of it wouldn't make any sense as an excuse for them yeah to use so i find this uncompelling yeah you know it is it is no beef for you it is so stupid especially now that we know about metadata you know like before they had no oh they could track you if they have a chip on your finger and it's like no man because your cell phone is someplace they can figure out what your day is like easily that's it just done your cell phone exists so they know where everywhere you go there is some there is some amount of data that is available sure it is not to the level that paul

is predicting in this next no it's not enemy of the state starring will smith no and and this is i mean it's far beyond that even that's true according to paul that is true in a similar thing to owning a mobile phone which is seen as cool these days obviously 10 years ago it was the new development but in 10 years they are predicting that everyone will have this life log system whereby your heartbeat your brainwaves every conversation that you have with anyone is recorded and sent straight to a government date now now now now this isn't paul watson around they weren't wrong this is main yes they were pentagon darpa released a few weeks ago every breath every heartbeat that he tracked by scanner cameras and in boston logan airport and for others

they put the mri scan mri scanner that looks at your brainwaves to see if you're aggressive or upset and they need to come over to speak with you they may ask you questions under another brain scanner to see if you're lying this is a great example of alex is an idiot and uh you know listening to him is stupid he's saying that there are mri's in the airport and then reporting that it's some kind of a plan to detect aggression or nefarious intent in people this is insane but it's based on a kernel of truth which is that mri technology is used in airports it's used to scan bags because the idea of human application of mri in an airport is laughable if you've ever had an mri done you'll know that it's a complicated process where you're put into a big machine and then you have to stay

completely still or else you'll ruin the pictures that the doctor is taking inside your head while this machine angrily yells at you sometimes they have to give people like sedatives you have to go a bunch yeah imagining that you could effectively use mri technology on something not staying completely still is absurd and it would pretty much be useless in a crowded airport terminal one of the primary applications of mri tech in the airport has to do with screening liquids because that's something that x-rays are not traditionally very good with also 19 years later in paul's tenure predictions looking shitty because i mean like yes it's not like there are things like data that's collected sure you know there are things about uh you know concerns about things listening or what have you

even though that may be true that is a far cry from every conversation you have being recorded by some government database at every heartbeat that you have right like all of this is is like a system that is like first of all would not be useful exactly that's the thing yeah that's the thing about it that we did that we do know for a fact the evil folks would have no use for that it would it would be too much it's too much information to find anything that's why the nsa's uh wide sweeping program like when they start looking into how much use they get out of it it's like no now your signal to noise ratio is all noise if you have everyone's heartbeat logged in something i don't know who's heartbeat are you listening to right um it's everyone in every single conversation

and every breath yeah yeah all right yeah cool anyway is that just to check in on you make sure you're okay yeah a lot of strong predictions uh coming out here yeah and we're gonna end this episode with uh like i said the 11th isn't there's not much a little bit of wasteland but there's something that is fucking awesome and it's a it's a delightful note for this episode and on and uh take it away pjw i recently saw an episode of the sitcom phrasier on british television and um the plot went like this one of the brothers joined a gun club and to all the other characters surprised he became friends with the other members of the club and began to see them regularly and um throughout the rest of the show everyone was questioning his integrity about the fact that he

was hanging out with in their words these wacko gun nuts survivalists but the most interesting aspect came at the very end of the show where one of the brothers walked into the gun club and found all the other members crowded around something talking and uh when he said hey guys what's that and the other members came back and said well it's the machine we're building to defeat the new world order and then the plot went that the brother ran out of the gun club and the studio audience laughed hysterically and that was basically the end of the show i'm begging everyone turtle red alert no i absolutely must have that on video don't total gold was that a new episode or an old one oh my god uh well it was on about six months ago and obviously the repeat

screen light is here in britain i got an old episode of frazier to tell you about alex i can't think of anything dumber to me personally than the idea that you are going to pull up an old frazier episode as proof of whatever argument you are making yeah the end i a and i would love alex to watch that episode where they think the dog is depressed because that one's a bummer um so i look this is a great opportunity for me to go watch an episode of frazier sure yeah i'm not gonna turn that down you love you love frazier yeah i don't but it's harder to watch now with calcy grammar but i put that aside and just enjoy what it is listen i don't mind watching x-men the dude's beast it's fine not a good beast not a good beast so the plot of this episode sure is that niles goes to

a shooting range with his dad because his dad was a former cop right you know got you this is not an anti-gun show that no it's a cop yeah there's a reason for yeah a character-based reason and so niles doesn't want to shoot uh but he does and he ends up liking it and so the people who are at the booth next to him uh like oh look at the kid come on yeah yeah and they they're encouraging him sure and he gets to enjoy it yeah he gets a little love bomb right yeah so he wants to go back to the shooting range of course but his dad doesn't want to go uh because he's like i you know i go about once once a year i've had enough yeah yeah yeah so niles goes he makes friends with these guys sure they're sure and they end up inviting him to a gun show and so uh the dad and daphne decide to

go along okay uh and so they go to the gun show and niles is just having a great time and he's gonna get a like a ankle holster and daphne's like you don't have a gun and so it's all a good time sure sure sure niles goes away for a minute and the guys the gun friends come over and they say something about the new world order and uh daphne and the dad are like these are these are militia types these are wow these are weirdos and so they tell niles like hey you don't want to hang out with these people they're not they're right they're not your sort of people right he's like when i make intellectual friends you don't like my friends and now i make cool friends and you don't like my friends and so he's like i'm gonna hang out with these guys and there's nothing you can do about

right right right right and so they've invited him to a compound in idaho and so he walks over to them at the gun show right and they're like around a piece of paper and then he's like oh what's this he's like oh these are plans for the generator we're gonna need this when the new world order comes and he's like oh okay oh gotcha yeah check please and so he and the dad daphne naturally gotcha so yeah there's just a it's just an episode about how sometimes there are those militia types by a show that was famous for being famous in the 90s during when all those militia types were everywhere this actually was in season 10 so it was a little late oh god but yeah there's still reason yeah but i also think that you know fairly often frazier one of the jokes is their snobbiness

yeah they're they are the butt of the joke because they judge people too quickly yeah oftentimes frazier and dials or both they have to deal with like our snooty presumptions about people are not right yeah and i thought that for sure that was what this episode's gonna be but no just militia types you care they want to overthrow the government and niles almost accidentally went to idaho boy niles should not go to idaho yeah that is one place that niles should not be involved in it yeah but it was a fun episode that is a fun episode also b plot yeah um uh ross is uh getting a new job and so she's gonna stop being uh frazier's producer ah yeah that's kind of a big episode honestly that's a that's an interesting b plot for the

for that episode and uh frazier is making out with felicity huffman i don't know who her character is i'd forgotten that what she is on the show maybe she came in the later seasons or something yeah but they're getting hot and heavy how long did frazier run for quite a while wow yeah this is season 10 jesus people used to just watch anything anyway frazier's fun sure i don't know if it was just because i had been listening to info wars and i switched over to frazier you're just like i'm gonna watch frazier yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you made you made all your snobby friends and then mocked your your cool friends i get it i see how it is so anyway we come to the end of this and uh you know alex we got some interesting view into his childhood um paul's book is out

but i think the most important thing uh to take away from this is the control of information that alex has in order to uh tell his narratives and his stories the way he wants the audience to experience them yeah he doesn't give access to the full picture because if he did he would have a harder time telling the story that he wants to tell um and that's not the mark of somebody who's straight up nope nope because he's a liar yeah yeah that'll do that's basically the point i'm trying to get across i mean there's one point there the other point is that uh cult leaders are scary man cult leaders are scary when you are and when i can't because that's the thing that i really could never get across get past you know that moment where somebody says to you like i've

left my family and my friends behind and you have to look them in the eyes and be like that was a great move sir well yeah but what's really weird about it is the someone saying i've left my family and friends behind is almost that takes a little bit of strength that's a different yeah that's a different agency this is somebody saying that all my friends and family have left me because i'm too right about stuff yeah yeah that's that's a deluded uh person who's in a cult and doesn't realize true true and that's even scarier almost yeah yeah they're in a they're well i mean that's kind of funny they're in a secret cult that is hidden from the rest of society controlled by a small group of people uh in a i a nondescript studio in austin well actually this was in round

rock he was in uh john snap miller studio bastard yeah he was on the road broadcasting on this one i got you so your theory falls apart it does it does fall apart it's all done so jordan yes dan we'll be back indeed uh but until then we have a website we do it's knowledge right dot com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight yep uh we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm wilford snibble snabble of the grubble pibble and now here comes the sex robots andy and chanzas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first-time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you