Knowledge Fight - #725: September 13-14, 2022

Episode Date: September 16, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the beginning of Alex's trial in Connecticut, and what's going on in the Infowars studio while the case plays out.  In this installment, Alex gets petty about his books sales, Tucker gets petty about Alex's book sales, and Alex covers Tucker getting petty about Alex's book sales. Citations Dreamy Creamy Fundraiser

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George knowledge fight need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for calling. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I love you. Everybody. Welcome back knowledge. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes. Sit around. We're with the Altar of Sleen and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed. We are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? Come with me and you'll see a bright spot. I didn't prepare a pair. I was going to say you're you're you're I'm

waiting for you to run out of gas on this one. That's why my bright spot is my Wonka games are playing are paying off. The first golden ticket button has been found. It was found by Juniper in Vermont. So congratulations Juniper. This is very, very exciting. I can't wait to see where these turn up. Yeah, yeah, because I am not rigging this thing. I'm not. I have as you can see, there's like boxes of buttons and I'm putting them in bags and then just taking them out. Yes, taking the bags, putting them in the envelope. Could go anywhere. We've got buttons going to Japan. We've got too many buttons going to Scotland. We got to move to Scotland. They love us. I'm waiting for you to have to hire somebody whose eyes are sewn shut. Who's who's lost feeling in their

fingers in order to choose the correct buttons. I have put them in the right place. I have a non problematic team of upalooas like a Yakuza boss. Yeah. Yeah. So this is very just very exciting and you know as a part of this I want to say to Juniper brother. Congratulations. Well the brother John just got laid off and I want to take this opportunity to say chin up John. Keep keep keep yourself on the on the on the keep spirits high. Yeah, you know. Hey bad times when you lose a job right being unemployed sucks right. Unfortunately our golden tickets don't wind up with you owning a factory. No, that is not a thing. We are not creators. I wish I could give you a button factory or a candy factory or whatever. Right. Right. But hey I think that when I look back on

my life a lot of times there were times that I lost jobs and it felt like the worst thing in the fucking world. But it ended up being positive. Yeah. Eventually. Yeah. You know you find you find some other job and you know maybe you never would have had the opportunity to find that other better job later. Sure. So John keep keep your eyes on the stars. I don't know. I have no idea why that one came out. Well it's because I am not somebody who's good at expressing optimism. No, no, no. I understand. So on a deep level on a deep level things will get the same John things will maintain or get worse. Oh boy. Great message. Yeah. Congratulations Juniper Jordan. What's your bright spot by bright spot. I'm going to keep with the theme of cartoons. Harley Quinn just finished

its third season and it's a really good cartoon. Start from this place like imagine the old classic Batman the animated series with Kevin Conroy. Sure. One of the best cartoons of all time. Yeah. Fantastic. Real just legendary art style. Totally just see it. Yeah. The whole thing. Imagine if you started with that show but from the premise that we have landed on now where Batman is a billionaire destroying the world by using his money only to serve his weird game. Right. Right. So start from that point of view and then make Batman the animated series. Fantastic. It's really, really great. Batman's a piece of shit. Like it's it's so good. Commissioner Gordon is the absolute worst ACAB all day. Oh man. Like it is. It is a very. That sounds interesting. I rarely check things out but maybe I will

check that out because that that vibe sounds the only problem that I have. I have not seen this show so I'm not entirely sure but sure. There's a pervy preoccupation with Harley Quinn that I'm not totally totally. You know what I mean. Yeah. And and the centerpiece is a relationship between her and poison Ivy which people have taken too creepy. But I would argue that it's actually been way more of just a positive representation kind of situation. It's not always the creator's intent and the source material isn't always the problem. Absolutely. No, no, no. You're not wrong. You are not wrong. But yeah. Ron Funches is in it. He's a great voice. He's fantastic. That's great. That's great. It's great show. All right. Check it out. Sure. Yeah. So Jordan today we have what was not a great show that is Alex's

show and then also Alex's trial. Oh, we got a double Connecticut to discuss. We're going to be talking about the 13th and 14th which is Tuesday and Wednesday of this week. We're going to talk a little bit about the court case. We're going to listen to a little bit of some some clips and then Alex's shows from those days and get a little sense of what he's up to while all this is going down. I bet he's reporting himself with a certain level of respect that he hasn't shown in the past. Right. Yeah, man. He's classy. But before before we get into anything and even before we talk about the Bronx, I wanted to say we always usually talk about this like sort of logistical stuff on air all that much. But you know today we were set to record at a certain point and I needed to push back half an hour and Jordan you

accommodate me when these things come up from time to time. And I really just wanted to say nope. Nope. I just wanted to say thank you, Jordan. I really, really, really don't appreciate because eventually Alex will be gone and all that will be left is your soundboard. I mean, here's what's going to happen. We're going to return to the beginning. Eventually there will be 50 people listening because it's just going to be you and me as old men with you just playing soundbites at me and just giggling if possible. Yeah. That's the goal. Yeah. And goal. You really thought I was going somewhere sincere with that, didn't you? I kind of did until I turned until you did until that was all over and that it was all over. But I thank you for accommodating my time schedule anyway. So we got an episode to do. But first

let's say hello to some new walks. It's a great idea. So first Bobby, a.k.a. the other Shane. Thank you so much. You're now policy one. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next hero to the Squatch. Thank you so much. You are now policy one. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. Liar. Next my fiance Emily because she gets annoyed when I come to bed and turn this on to sleep from Laura Elise. Thank you so much. You're now policy one. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. That's fair. That's a free bit of marriage counseling for you. Fair. Don't don't play this in bed to fall asleep to nope. It's not courteous. Next. This is a cat. Okay. Felix double helix. Thank you so much. You're now policy one. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. And butter. This could go either way. This could

be butter cup. Yeah, or butter. Coopia. Not sure. But either way, you're now policy one. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a couple of technocrats here, Jordan. So first Sasquitz has no heroes. You are now a technocrat. Thank you. And this I'm delayed on this and I'm very sorry about that. But Marcy the Wobby Bear. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy one. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow, actually. I'm just gonna take a little break. You know, a little break for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken out there. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my

last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. He's not. No, I didn't think so. So Jordan, I wanted to say like we got the Connecticut case started and we've been watching the stream and texting back and forth quite a bit. I think we both came into this with the plan of like, I don't know if I'm going to watch the whole thing this time. And yeah, we've basically been sitting in front of it a little bit different. Actually, I would say for my defense, I came in with the perspective of I don't want to do this again. Last time was a lot and it was very concerned about redundancy like things being like,

oh, this is the same thing again. But it's not. It's a different beast than the Austin situation. First, there's a lot more plaintiffs. Second, the case accuses Alex of slightly different violations and has a bit more to do with the business end of his, his operations. So there's a bit more there, a bit more meat that you can look at. Then third and most importantly, Norm Pattis is a completely different brand of lawyer than Ray Nall. Oh yeah, Alex's representation in Texas. We've long wondered why it is exactly that Norm is Alex's lawyer. He seems like a mope generally and he's a really embarrassing loser outside the courtroom. What with his stand up adventure, which was actually so bad that there's no need to list a second thing here in this. No, no, no, that's the real bad. Yeah. Yeah. Once you do that, you're that forever. You should get woke insurance. It's a little bit. It's a little, you know, like, oh, I've been a bricklayer for 30 years,

but you fuck one monkey and they call you monkey fucker Jim. You know, they never call you bricklayer Jim. They call you pants down racial slur. Exactly. Yes, exactly. Norm gets paid because he will do anything. He's a mercenary with a law degree and he doesn't give a shit how awful the things he's saying sound or who they heard. That became crystal clear on day one and it really gave me a sense that as bad as Alex's lawyer was in Austin, he at least had some boundaries. It didn't seem like it at the time until I saw Norm and realized how shitty Ray Nall could have been if he had wanted to. It is crazy. So we're going to start today by looking a bit at Norm's opening statement and a couple of particularly shitty things that happened. And then we're going to tune in to see what Alex was doing while this was happening simultaneously. Yes. Yes. It's always good whenever there is simultaneous. Like you can put up side by side broadcasts of a man being sued into oblivion at a man being like we're winning.

There are asses off. Yeah. Things are pretty good. Things are great. Things are great. Also, there's a tweet I want to yell about. Yes, absolutely. The most important tweet. Fine. Yeah. So here is a little bit from Norm's opening and the sound isn't great on this. I have to say this. There's a, you know, it's from the law and sure law and crime. Yeah, I think it's a crime. Not law and order. No. But there there's like some sort of room tone. Yeah, there's some artifacts. Yeah. Your job is to decide if Mr. Jones is responsible for all they are claiming. In other words, we claim that their claims are exaggerating. And if they can prove to you that he's caused them all the harm they claim, then give them a sum that compensates for that. None for that. They suggested your job is to punish Alex Jones and you'll hear that from the judge. They hate him because he says, ah, how outrageous things. And the haters want to silence them. Each of you has chosen to be here today to compensate them for their grief. And you're being asked to make an example of Alex.

Money is their weapon of choice. Award enough that you might summon or you might silence Alex Jones. He was mocked. They're coming, they're coming, they're coming. The plaintiffs and their counsel, they're here and it's you. That's wild. First of all, just being so blunt as to be like, we're just going to say that their claims are exaggerated. Yeah, that's Hey, listen, that's the time we tried to red pill the jury and say that maybe we didn't actually do it. And this time we're like, hey, sure, we did it. Fuck yeah, we did it. We're already guilty. But it wasn't that bad. Come on. It is the come on defense. Yeah. Yeah. I think it takes a certain level of callowness to, to, to say something like that out loud. And one of the things that I noticed is the norm did have a bit of a faulty delivery. There was moments where it almost felt like he was thinking, am I going to say this? But I might be attributing that to him unfairly based on what he and like the way he ends up I don't believe he was like worried about saying these things underprepared. Right. Right. I mean, in my, in my thought process, I didn't see that so much as Occam's razor told me that like he's, he's just kind of

I've seen him do stand up. His delivery is not great. He's throwing it. He doesn't have much. Yeah. So Norm does, he does make basically this accusation that they're partisan hacks. The plaintiffs. Yep. E You're on her. Okay. So yes, my client murdered this person, but he did. We saw the evidence. He did fight back. Is he a victim? Obviously not. There is a basically, I can, what he's putting forth here is essentially saying that they put themselves in the arena. This is just Alex's words, more or less. Yeah, absolutely. With Ray Null, there was, there was a sense that it's like, all right, this is a guy who's taking direction from Alex, but trying to do something like a lawyer with Norm. It really feels like, all right. Yeah, I'm just going to use Alex's shit with the law stuff. Yep. I'm just going to swing as hard and in the direction Alex wants. And I'm going to use the words and tactics that I've learned at law school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fucked up. It felt like Ray Null was trying to transmute Alex's bullshit into something that you could pass in a courtroom. And Norm is like, you just put a powdered wig on Alex's bullshit. Absolutely. Norm is just like, Hey, guess what? I'm a barrister. And I'm going to say some bullshit. That's what's going to happen. Jesus. It is a mess. Yeah, it's not great. I think that this also is inappropriate for the damages portion, which is obviously why we have some of these objections.

Of course. As Chris Maddy, the plaintiff's lawyer here is contesting this is an attempt to unravel the default judgment. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Relitigated in a place where it is inappropriate. It is a bit like, no, no, no, no, your honor. See, he's a public figure. No, no, we're past that. Yeah. And so Norm continues to behave poorly after this sidebar. Our contention to be clear is that these damage claims here are exaggerated because of the idiosyncratic motives of the plaintiffs transforming their griefs into political weapons. You'll have to decide whether that's true. Here's what you learned in 2016. Alice Jones became household name again when a presidential candidate used him to be ready for her opponent and talked about Sandy Hook, Hillary Clinton. She never got to tell you. Objection, your honor. Sustained. Stop this, please. Sustained. Move on, Attorney Patis, please. How many times did you notice how many times I objected to telling you, letting them tell their story? Attorney Patis, that is improper and either finish your opening or be seated. That was in his opening statement. As I was watching, I was like, this is going to be bad. This whole thing is going to be bad. Based on Norm's behavior, he clearly knows that this isn't appropriate. How many times did I object? That kind of a response in open court is like, this guy's unhinged. This could go any number of directions. As I described it to someone, I don't feel safe when I'm watching this.

Not that there's any threat to me personally, but I feel unwell. I'm not in good hands. I appreciate how willing everyone else in the courtroom is to abide by the, oh, I can't wear shorts. That kind of shit. He's just walking out here like, do you hear how many times I fucking objected? How about that shit, judge? I mean, it's bananas have disrespectful years to the judge. It's wild. Yeah. And I mean, we'll talk about that a little bit more later, but you know, on the second day, he wasn't standing up to make objections. It's so funny. And like he had to be scolded about that, which is, I mean, that is a huge disrespect to the court. I mean, I think some of the court procedure stuff is a little bit silly from the outside.

It's hilariously stupid. Right. But you've agreed to exist within this space. You are a lawyer. You know the rules. Yeah. And part of the rules are you respect the fucking court. Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm on your team. If you want to be like, Hey, standing up to object is fucking stupid. We're all sitting down here. This is fine. If you want to argue that I'm on your team. We're past the time though. You've already been in court for hours. A different setting. I'm hearing that argument. Totally.

I'm saying, Hey, I'm all about it. Yeah. It's too late now, man. It's bizarre the way we do this stuff. And I'm not entirely sure why we do great halfway in the middle of a water slide. You're like, maybe we should add water to this. You're already halfway down, man. Yeah, that's on you. Yeah. So he's been scolded about the Hillary Clinton angle. So he tries another one.

Yep. Either finish your opening or be seated. In 2017, Matt Alex was interviewed by Megan Kelly and NBC. He worried it'd be a hit piece. He said for the interview, it was a hit piece. Megan Kelly didn't get sued. Alex got sued. Objection. Sustained attorney Alice one more time and I will ask you to be seated.

I mean, it's just, you know, as I was texting you, I'm like, he keeps swinging. Yep. You know, there's something to be said for persistence. I know it's like my parents. When I was a kid, I was very persistent about things like being able to, you know, stay out to ride my bike or something. You know, I wouldn't get my way. And my parents were very much like, this is bad. You shouldn't do this, right?

But persistence is a trait that may pay off in life. That's how I feel with Norm. It is a little Indiana Jones in the last crusade. Like you lost this one today, kid. And then he puts the hat on you and you're still trying to get it back into a museum 20 years later. I get it. Yeah. I'm with you.

It's in some context, persistence is a very admirable trait in this one. No, I mean, I disagree. Just on a, like from what I've seen level, because at a certain point, you can only say one more time and you're done, Mr. Pattis, before I don't give a shit anymore. How many times you say one more time? Because we've gotten it one more time, literally every day. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

I think that the one more time may be as a ambient serious here. But I think, I think that giving a lot of wide berth to this. Sure. I think that that is still appropriate. Yeah. Like it's, I've made this point before in these circumstances, like you don't want to do any, these people are babies. Yeah. So you don't want to give them the ability to credibly argue that they're being poorly treated.

Sure. And so I think, I think that kind of have to act that way, which sucks. There is a certain amount of you're watching Wiley Coyote run off the cliff and he's still being a dick and he's still running. And you're like, there's nothing beneath you. You've got to stop running. But he just keeps running. You're like, I guess I'm not going to be the one to tell him when the floor doesn't exist. But sooner or later, the floor will not exist and he's going to fall a long way.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't, I don't see much floor here for sure. Um, yeah, I just, there's just parts of this that I was like, I don't even know why he's saying these things. At the end of the case, you know, you'll be asked to evaluate the evidence and ask what exactly they prove that it hurts to lose a loved one. The world is filled with non-hinge people who are becoming a failed state. It's an old lot of abrasion, often offensive and a liar. If you can score on our side how many times they use the word lie, eight so far, liar, liar, pants on fire.

If you don't shout enough, we could respond by saying, and I ask you to consider this each time you hear the words. Six and stones would break my bones before it will never hurt you. When did political debate become toxic? What is he even saying? I mean, there is a, first of all, there's a very bizarre admission that he seems to be making there that is like, I, you got to take it on face value that Alex is a liar. Yeah. Like what are they going to prove that losing a loved one hurts that Alex is a liar? We know these things.

Okay. So that's great. Oh, is this on up there? Yeah. Okay. So I guess it's hard to come back from that and be like, well, Alex is actually, you know, he's serious and he tells the truth. Yeah. But I'm sure Alex will try somehow to save this or just ignore it, which is what he has done.

I mean, yeah, there's no continuity here. But then the second thing is that, you know, yeah, sticks and stones, my big brother, that's good when someone's insulting you. Right. You know, rise above the insults. Sure. Or whatever. Sure. Like, I don't know.

Me saying that norms of fucking child. Yeah. Rise above it. Rise above it. When you're defaming somebody. Sure. And there is material harm that is done by your words. Oh, so it is no longer a, like the lies that Alex is telling are not just like fun lies.

Sure. Sure. Sure. They're defamation lies. Words can never hurt you until you print them out in block letters out of titanium that weigh a thousand pounds and then drop them on your head. Yeah. Words can hurt you eventually. And just the words and the lies are not necessarily the end all be all of what this case is about.

Right. Right. Right. So that's the other illusion that norm is perpetuating. Yeah. The idea that Alex is just like questioning things, the idea that it's just words and stuff is the attempt to unravel the default judgment. Yeah. It is deeply inappropriate.

And norm knows that. Yeah. He knows that. I mean, it's, it is a little bit the result of the default judgment. I mean, again, we've talked about in the last trial, but like the default judgment is a default judgment because all of the arguments that they would have made in court. Are essentially inadmissible. And they're still trying to make those arguments and you can't say you guys don't get to say anything now because you lost. You can't say that.

I mean, as you said, you know, you'd be giving them a wide berth is a, you know, reasonable thing to do. But yeah, listening to his opening argument, I was sitting there going like, technically, you can't say that. Technically, you can't say that. Technically, you can't say that, you know, just checking it off the list. Yeah. Yep. What are you going to do? Persistence pays off.

I guess. Yeah. Well, as long as those checks from free speech systems keep. Exactly. Clearing. Yes. As long as they do that. So this I took particular issue with.

He's just written another book. The Great Reset to War for the World. That's our hand. Injection, your honor. The answer to 1984. Well, it's classic. He tells you this in 1776. It's a serious message.

It's not a lie. If you live in deeply divided times, plenty of people think 1776 is the answer to the 1984 week article. Yeah. He said that. He's also the guy who worries that the chemicals in our water might be turning frogs gay. That weather balloons are secret government weapons. That trails from airplanes are seated with toxins that are destroying and controlling us. Sure.

That Hillary abused his children. That pedophiles run the government. And then people actually eat babies to remain forever young. Which of these messages do we take serious enough to regard him as a truck? We should shut off. At what point do we guard regard him as the crank on the village green? The person we can walk away from if we choose. This is an interesting tack that Norm is trying here because he's essentially arguing that Alex is simultaneously really serious and important and on the right track.

But he's also a raving madman who you should just ignore. At first glance, this seems like a message that Alex shouldn't endorse. But if you think about it a little more, you can see how this is exactly the kind of ambiguity that Alex wants to cultivate about himself in official circles. For his audience, he's serious all the time. And all that stuff about chemtrails and shit is very much sincere and real. Yes. But for the rest of us and in a courtroom, that isn't going to fly. So a different tactic needs to be employed.

And it's that sometimes he's serious and sometimes you should just write off what he's saying is crazy. It's a perfect way to evade any responsibility for anything you say, but simultaneously allow yourself to feel like a big boy hero about things you want to be taken seriously for. There's an uncertainty about whether or not any particular thing Alex says should be taken seriously, and that works really well in this context. Talking shit about social media being too powerful. Take that deadly seriously and recognize that Alex is way ahead of the curve on that. And he was essentially a prophet claiming that murdered children's family members are actors and the whole thing didn't really even happen. Come on. He's crazy.

You can't take what he's saying seriously. You can see how this game that Norm is playing works. It's very transparent. And I want to take this one step further. I do think that the things that Norm is lifting off as the crazy stuff. Alex says that you should discount as the ravings of a madman are things that you should absolutely take seriously. Alex isn't someone on a street corner as Norm wants to imply just talking to himself about outlandish theories. Alex is a multi-millionaire businessman who's created a career out of disseminating these outlandish theories to masses of people.

He's not someone on a street corner. He's a demagogue with international reach and the ravings that are just supposed to be ignored. Those aren't things that his audience is supposed to know that Alex's lawyer would describe that way in court. These are very serious, very real, completely documented conspiracies that are aimed at killing you and your family. This isn't up for debate on Alex's show, but mysteriously, when you're in a formal setting surrounded by people who aren't indoctrinated into the fold, these are examples of things that Alex says that prove you shouldn't take what he says seriously. The ludicrousness of the things Alex says is used as a defense against him taking responsibility for the real world damage he causes, and I think that is something to take very seriously.

Even beyond that, the things Norm is listing off are very fucked up conspiracy theories, many of which have their roots in anti-Semitic tropes from histories. The eating of children and drinking their blood is a holdover from the blood libel. Many of the conspiracies about poisoning the water in the air harken back to well poisoning accusations about Jewish people intentionally spreading the bubonic plague. Leaving aside these bigoted roots of his talking points, there are just very serious dangers in the way that a non-insignificant number of people, and some elected officials, are using pedophilia accusations to rile up their followers into a state where they're causing real damage to people, primarily aimed at members of the LGBTQ community. Even if we aren't supposed to take Alex's theories themselves seriously, if we're responsible members of the public, we do need to take the reason they're being spread seriously. We need to take the impact that they have seriously, and the game Norm is playing here is an attempt to run cover for that.

And based on Norm's character, I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing, uh, cause he's a piece of shit. And he should rise above that, sticks and stones, you know, break your bones and words don't hurt. Yeah, I feel, I feel like watching this, like, you know, we've discussed in the past that the world got lucky that we haven't become right-wing nutjobs on account of, you know, you and I. Yeah, yeah, we're failed comedians. We've got the pedigree for it, right? We're failed comedians. We're both two white dudes. Yeah. We're on Mike all the time, you know, that is, that is ripe for becoming a right-wing shithead, that kind of thing. But if I were one of those, then my legal strategy would be, fuck it, everything I say is crazy. Everything. And then I'd go into it in court and be like, why would you be racist? Do you not see that there's no genetic basis? Like, I would go ham on everything I've ever said and be like, see, look at how silly it is that people believe any of this shit.

Right. And then go on air and be like, I didn't mean any of that. Yeah, absolutely. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. It's, yeah, it's, it is a little bit, um, it's a bit strange that there's like the, I think, there are third rails for them where they're like, I won't come out and say that hating gunman, hating like anti gun shit is stupid. True. You know. Well, I think that there is also the, they don't want to blow up their game. I think the problem is that you're imagining a situation where you don't have like an elaborate business to protect.

Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. So you could do that in your hypothetical scenario where there isn't like a warehouse full of pills that you got to move. Right. Right. Right. For me, it would also be like, Oh, I see the writing on the wall. This business is not going to be mine for that much longer. So I might as well get me taken care of because I'm a right wing psychopath. Shit head. Like these people are just starting smart. I honestly think that the more you talk, the more I realize you wouldn't cut it.

No, I really wouldn't. I would be, I would be terrible. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think that you would be like accepted into the circle because that is the kind of chaotic energy they don't want around. Right. Right. And they're pill warehouse. Totally. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. You'll screw that shit off. I am the Joker. I'll burn the bottom half of the money. Yes.

So we're done listening to Norm's shit for now. But we're going to jump in here on the 13th, Alex's show. It starts off and maybe I was feeling nitpicky. It was that kind of day. Yeah. Everybody knows about the frog and the boiling pot of water analogy. It's actually true. The folks down in Louisiana and Mississippi like to eat their crawdads and their bullfrogs and the rest of it.

And well, sometimes they just throw the whole frog in the boiling pot, but they've learned that if we throw one into boiling water, he'll just jump right out. But if you set him in a cool pot of water and you just turn the heat up slow, he thinks it's a hot tub at first and then passes out and dies. A painless death. And that's where America and the world is right now. We're in the middle of the New World Order. This isn't true. Frogs don't just sit in water as you turn up the heat. People have conducted tests on this and it's really consistent that if frogs have a way to get out of the water as it gets hotter, they do.

Also, they don't just magically jump out of boiling water. Although there are less people conducting this test for obvious humane animal treatment reasons, biologists have discussed the prospect. And it's pretty clear that a frog being thrown into boiling water would just be burned immediately by the scalding water and they'd try to escape but probably die. Even if it made it out of the boiling water, it would probably succumb to injuries from the burns. I mean, honestly, you couldn't barely get back out of boiling water. It's boiling fucking water. And it would cause a shock response. Absolutely.

This is a fun analogy for Alex to make because he comes from the school of anti-communism that views all social progress as the incremental change that is the metaphorical temperature of the water rising. It's all kind of a fantasy, though, and the real metaphor is that the rising temperature of this particular water is killing off Alex's ability to live in a society that caters solely to the needs of straight white Christian men. Yeah. That's the metaphor understood appropriately. Yeah. Yeah, I do appreciate he has a, what would I say, an almost detrimental commitment to taking any down home country aphorism and being like, and that's 100% true. Sure. You can, yeah, you know, you go out back, you cut a log and then you're gonna break your leg and that's 100% true.

If you step on a crack, you're breaking mother's back. Absolutely, 100% of the time. That comes from the old country. And now, ironically, the phenomenon that's described by this boiling frog analogy actually kind of does apply to our collective response to climate change. In that scenario, we're all frogs trapped in this pot and Alex is a frog yelling at all of us that the water is not getting any hotter and the globalists are just pushing that idea to get us to give up our frog guns and pay frog taxes. Yeah, man. So I just got, I just got an image of like a giant gumbo pot with like 20 frogs on either side of it, armed to the teeth, playing a game of chess, that kind of, that kind of feel. Sure.

And then they all boiled to death. And there's just one who's just yelling at them, the water's fine. No, that's absolutely right in the middle of them. So, yeah, maybe a little nitpicky, but I was bored. Anyway, Alex has some big news. And that's where we are as a culture and as a civilization. And they give me an example of how we're winning the culture war. Tucker Carlson talked last night about the horrible next level of deception and censorship that is taking place at the master of lies, the New York Times.

Here it is. Okay. Just how dishonest is the New York Times? It's really a philosophical question. It's hard to answer directly. Do you have any idea what this is about? What? Do you want to guess what this is about?

Oh, God. I don't know. Okay. Something about the New York Times. Right. The New York Times must have published. I don't know. Maybe Aaron Judge's 57th home run wouldn't have gone out.

Interesting. I'm going to go with that. Okay. Let's see. How drunk was the guy you saw passed out in the men's room at a Packers game? How angry is Hillary Clinton at her husband? What? Well, the answer in all cases is very, extremely, so thoroughly and so totally that it's hard

to put into words. So instead of describing the dishonesty of the New York Times with conventional adjectives, we'll give you a specific example because we think it tells you more. So last week, the paper told us that the best-selling book in the United States was a title called I'm Glad My Mom Died by a Child Actress called Jeanette McCurdy. But that was not true. That book was not the best-selling book in America. In fact, the best-selling book in America last week was The Great Reset and the War for

Worlds written by Alex Jones. He could never have predicted that that was where this was going. Get the fuck out of here. He's whining like Alex about Alex on his show? And then Alex is playing Tucker whining about him. Oh my God. Oh, fuck me. So one thing we should just get clear before I get into any of this is that for over a decade

and probably way longer than that, people have been a bit confused about how best-selling lists work. There isn't. Not well. There isn't necessarily a precise science to it. If you look at different publications, you'll see different listings because they use different metrics. I went and I checked the New York Times list.

And sure enough, I'm glad my mom died is number one. But if there's some kind of a weird systemic bias on this list, I don't know how Jared Kushner's book Breaking History is coming in at number three in its third week on the list. That seems strange. Yeah. So number 13 on the list being the book Battle for the American Mind by Peter Gegseth and David Goodwin, which is described as, quote, the Fox and Friends weekend host makes his

case for what he calls a classical Christian education. Seems like the times would just say no, thank you to that if they're just manipulating their shit. Yeah. Given these inclusions, I just don't believe for a second that there's like a systematic bias against Alex's book. No, of course not. There's one factor that I think is working against Alex and that is that a ton of his

books are being purchased directly from his website at a giant markup. Oh, yeah. And he's complained quite a bit about how he has to sign them all before shipping them out on his Wednesday show. He said that he sold 14,000 copies on his own website. Jesus Christ. These purchases through Info Wars wouldn't be confirmed purchases. The times would factor into their rankings partially because Info Wars store doesn't

report sales data to the Times. They don't report sales data to the courts. Yeah. This is a major part of how the Times makes their list from their website about the list's methodology. Quote, rankings reflect unit sales reported on a confidential basis by vendors offering a wide range of general interest titles published in the United States. Every week, thousands of diverse selling locations report their actual sales on hundreds of thousands

of individual titles. The panel of reporting retailers is comprehensive and reflects sales in tens of thousands of stores of all sizes and demographics across the United States. So, you know, they have like some smaller like operators, some smaller bookstores, some chains, some Amazon, of course. And so they have these to get a sampling of where books are sold. Yeah, of course. This is where Alex is probably hurting.

I would guess that he doesn't have like really great distribution for this book. And it's probably not being carried in many stores. He's got his own website in Amazon. And while a ton of book buying is done online, there is a wider picture that is often ignored. Alex's book is currently number five on Amazon's top seller list, which is great for him. That's just based on purchases. So it's a little more straightforward in terms of rankings. Incidentally, number four on that list is I'm glad my mom died.

So he's not beating Jeanette there either. Heartbreaking. Also, number two is a cookbook written by Steve Ducey and his wife. So really, Tucker should be asking why isn't the New York Times charts putting Steve Ducey up there? What everyone should be asking is why try to write well. Why? Look, the point is that Tucker is not making a sincere argument here. No, no, absolutely not.

Also, please remember, this is apparently the top story on Alex's show the day his trial in Connecticut is beginning as this episode is airing Norm is in court. Alex is complaining about his book sales in the New York Times snubbing him while Norm is doing his disgraceful bullshit. No, no, no. But that's all in character and shit. You know, like, fuck me. Tucker Carlson is going on national TV to whine that the New York Times didn't give him enough of... I mean, that's shameful.

You're the most important man in the world. It's a little... Although that is why he's the most important man in the world. Yeah, he's willing to go on a show. Yeah, that's a fair point. So Tucker gets into the numbers. Oh, God. Jones sold more than 56,000 copies of his book last week.

Jennifer McCurdy, whatever her merits, we have no idea, sold 34,686 copies of her book. So Alex Jones sold a lot more books. Alex Jones had the biggest book in the country, but the New York Times lied about that because the New York Times doesn't want you to know that. Tucker's number for McCurdy's book is pretty specific, so it's pretty simple to track that down. This is from the publisher's weekly list of top hardcover front-list nonfiction. On that list, McCurdy is number one with 34,686 units sold, and Alex is number two with 30,649. I thought he was number two with 54 something thousand. No.

No, no, no. Tucker's taking that number of books sold from Alex. Ooh, not a good idea. That probably adds the several thousand copies that he signed. And I'm guessing that he took the number of McCurdy's books sold from Alex too because it's cited in a bunch of InfoWars articles about how the Times is shadowbanning Alex. Sure. But what's this? Books don't only come in hardcover and nonfiction?

That doesn't sound true. On the overall list from publisher's weekly, McCurdy's book is at number seven with four of the top six books being by Colleen Hoover. Alex isn't even on the top 10 on that full list. Brutal. If Alex really wants to make sure that all is right in the universe and make sure that the book that's sold the most copies is number one, then he should be yelling about how Hoover's 2016 young adult romance novel it ends with us should be at number one, not McCurdy. Yeah, yeah. He's not doing that because he doesn't actually care about how the Times list is compiled. This is just about him taking his own petty grievance and insecurity about feeling left out and pretending it actually reveals a political point.

He also very clearly sees the potential this has as a way to drive sales. As the article on InfoWars says, quote, The New York Times excluded Alex Jones as the great reset from its rightful place on the list. It's time to end the censorship of conservative voices from bestseller lists. Oh, fuck me. That article is maybe 700 words long and it includes six hyperlinks to the Amazon page to buy Alex's book. Also, I shouldn't know that the book is 36% off its original price like a week into its release, which definitely doesn't scream. We've fleeced people on preorders and now we're trying to sell off the rest of these books at a cut rate. Yeah.

So they don't fill up the warehouse. Exactly. Very well. He cashed in a bit on a book and he should be proud of himself for turning his incoherent ramblings into 30-something thousand books sold. But this whole thing is a bit much and it's really pathetic for Tucker to be jumping in and basically doing a segment based on an InfoWars article about how the cool kids at the Times aren't letting Alex sit at the table. Yeah. It's a little bit sad. Yeah.

Yeah. And not just that, but like, wow, only 50,000 books. I mean, that's like the biggest book in America is 50,000 books. Right. That's rough. It does go to show the numbers of books sold are lower a lot of the time than you think. Yeah. Yeah.

But then the second thing it goes to show you is like, look, I think it's great. Like if you were to sell 50,000 books, I would say amazing. Yeah. That's awesome. Congratulations, bro. Yeah. If Alex is selling 50,000 books. That's not good.

No. No. But it's because it's because of who he presents himself as. Sure. He's the biggest thing in the world. He's the number one media source. He's the Howard Stern of truth. Absolutely.

He's the leader of the Patriots and the CIA and the FBI and all this shit. Yeah. He is the king of the world. He's friends with all the most powerful people. Bolsonaro listens to his show every day. Right. Now that he doesn't want to directly associate himself with Putin listening to a show all the time. Bolsonaro is much easier for him.

It's a good change. Yeah. 50,000 is like, this is sad, bro. No, I think, I think overall, I think I had in the first two weeks, like 10,000 downloads, which to me was approximately the book. 100% of our audience, you know, like that's the best conversion rate we can get. You know, that kind of thing. That's amazing.

It's not. I don't have Billy. I don't have a hundred million dollars in my bank. It's good. It's good for you and what you are. That's great for me. For what Alex purports to be. Sad.

Number is bad. Sad. Also, like he's saying that 14,000, you know, sales through his, his website. And I understand that he's selling something and I'm just giving something away by the number of buttons. Like if we're just talking about straight up response rate, sure, sure, sure. That number doesn't look so impressive. If you look at my inbox.

That's true. But you know, we're not that far away necessarily. Alex can't beat free in price though. That's true. That's true. There is a difference. That's a variable. So anyway, this whole thing is really, I mean, you know why he's doing this.

Yeah. And the bandwidth and the rest of us are costing us $300,000 a month. And the more popular we get with our own platform, the more money I've got to pay. Fetching and complaining. I'm just simply saying we've hit the zeitgeist. We are in the pole position. We are winning. We are hurting them.

We are inspiring Liberty movements worldwide. That means you are, but I need funds. And quite frankly, buying the book sends a message. It's the Death Star plans. It exposes the new order. They can't stand it. So get it in for store.com or get it Amazon.com or Barnes and Nobles. That's all fine and dandy.

But if you want to support the broadcast where we actually do bring some money in. I'm going to hit on the news. Get what's been sold out for over a year. Green fiber capsules, the highest quality. Everyone loves green fiber capsules. Get those green fiber capsules. Yeah. So I mean, this whole thing really, even the playing of the Tucker piece is sales.

This whole beginning of the show is just sales. It's sad. I would be saying that a bit, but it's sad. It would be more fun if the home shopping network was like, these swords are the best swords we have on the market. Actually, you know what? Let's play a clip of somebody saying these sorts suck. And then we'll talk about it because these sorts are so fucking great.

That would be fun. We're going to have to put a clock on this one. Yeah. So there's big news. Alex has big news. Yeah. He has done his piece. Sure.

Big news. I'm going to cover all the massive news and more, but here is the big news. Inflation's off the hook. Business sales across the border down. We're going into a depression. With inflation. That's stagflation. We're all in deep trouble.

And I'm just asking listeners to understand the storm is here. It's not coming. And with all the things you do in life, supporting corporate brands, supporting, you know, football games, all this crap, please set aside some money to keep info wars on the air because we're in chapter five bankruptcy. And the next few months, it'll be decided whether we continue on or this shuts down. And we are barely profitable. And we've got to be able to show we're profitable as this plan goes forward.

In just the next six weeks. So now is the most critical time in info wars history to go to info wars store.com and get diet force. So we're going to talk about this towards the end of the episode because Alex gets a little bit more clear about this, but the way he's talking about his bankruptcy leads me to believe that he might be trying to defraud the bankruptcy court. Yeah. And he might be discussing this plan on air in a way that is great place to play to discuss

it. A little, a little flagrant. No, no, no, no. You hide in plain sight. Do your crimes on the radio. Exactly. Absolutely. So yeah, inflation is on fleek.

Sure. Stagflation. Yeah. That's in Britain. That's what you do before you get married. You have a stagflation. Sure. So we're back to, I mean, it's just, I need more money stuff.

Sure. He keeps trying to trick me with this. I'm going to get to the news thing. I like that. He, he played the tucker clip as a way to sell his book, but the way he sold his book as a way to sell something that has a higher profit margin by saying, don't buy my book. It's, it's a sale within a sale. Yep.

Yeah. Yep. Yep. So we actually do get to some news. I'm not, this isn't debate and switch this time. Okay. Okay. Cause it's not debatable.

It was a scythe. It's not debatable. It was a lie. It's not debatable. It was a fraud. I guess the rats are leaving the sinking ship again, ethically unjustifiable. Top scientists from Harvard and John Hopkins go public with a major study. COVID-19 shots 98 times worse than the virus.

Okay? How would you do 98? I don't know. So this is the headline Alex is reading from Jim Hoft substats. Sure. I guess he didn't want to run this on Gateway Pundit, so he kept this little gem for himself. I would keep that one off there. Also, his sub-stack is called Second Smartest Guy in the World, which is pretty cool.

I'm guessing first place isn't his twin brother. No, it's still Ben Stein. Oh, could be. Win his money. Oh, you gotta. You gotta. Jimmy Kimmel. He was co-host.

He was. You see, what a weird life we've all met. I enjoyed that show. I did too. That's the weirdest part about it. I have neutral feelings about Jimmy Kimmel now and negative feelings about Ben Stein. Yes. Yes.

Of all the co-hosts Jimmy Kimmel has had, none have made it past. What? How many years? Talking about Ben Stein. Talking about the ace man. 2012 as being like, you're a good person. None of them. Yeah.

It's an interesting question. Who's worse, Ben Stein or Ace Rockola? Probably Adam. Yeah, I would say so. Adam has been in worse movies. Well, and I actually enjoyed the hammer when I was younger, but I don't want to revisit it. That's fair.

But the question is definitely answered with Adam. And here's why. Yeah. He fell. Like there was a time when at Love Line, you know, you had the feeling that he was somebody who was being helpful. He was very funny. Maybe again.

I don't want to go back and revisit it. Let's not worry about it. But then to now. Oh, terrible. Whereas Ben Stein was a fucking speechwriter for Nixon. He was just Ben Stein the whole time. Why did he get a show? There's no explanation for any of this.

That's but that's not enough for me. Apparently it is. Yeah. Well, you're right. So anyway, Jim Hoft has a sub stack. Good to know. So this is as always what they're talking about. It's a preprint article that's being reported on by a COVID denial propagandist.

So this isn't even really getting my eyebrows raised. It's getting to be a yawn kind of thing. Alex absolutely did not read this study. It's 50 pages long. And he doesn't even sound like he read the title of Jim Hoft's blog before cold reading it on air. He's just making up what he thinks he's reading to the study itself as a cost benefit analysis of mandating booster shots for people under 40, particularly in the context of college

students. The argument is that these mandates may not avert that many hospitalizations and I can see where that may make some sense. I think that would be very reasonable if people under 40 and people over 40 never came into contact with each other. But seeing as we all do intermingle and vaccines are a community level solution to a problem, not an individual level one, I have some issues with just the very idea of this. Yeah.

That being said, Hoft's headline is bullshit. The study didn't say that vaccines are 98 times worse than the virus as Alex is repeating. That number 98 is used in the paper as the high end estimate of the number of serious adverse events you might expect to see in a hypothetical college of 30,000 students who are all given the booster. Right. Also, this paper hasn't been peer reviewed, so their numbers and methodology might be suspect.

Probably self-reported. I mean, but it's a hypothetical university. Sure. Who knows? Great. In this COVID time, pre-print articles have just math problems. Yeah. I mean...

You just calculated it wrong. I don't know what to do with this. Let's get that through peer reporting and we'll talk. 98 times worse. How do you claim that without having some concept of what it is that is 98 times worse? That's 98 times worse, man. How? Mathematically, how?

Okay. So, COVID... This is one. Right. COVID's bad. COVID's a one. Right. But getting a booster shot is 98 COVIDs.

But I don't know what that means. It's like a nicolichet of danger. Do I get 98 worse coughs? Yeah. Every cough, 98 coughs. 98 coughs. Oh, that's bad. That's 98 times worse.

I will say it's not ideal. No. So anyway, Alex is the leader of the resistance. We are the American resistance. We are the human resistance. This is it. And I don't say it again with some arrogant pleasure. I say it to recognize what you as listeners have backed and your commissioning of this

operation. This is the tip of the spear. This is the platinum standard. This is it. Right here. And don't think I don't know that. And don't think it isn't a giant weight on me. So if you could temporize and actually let it get into your mind and understand that

obviously, of course, America is the main resistance as bad as we are. And of course, the main resistance in America is coming out of a place like Texas. That's the way the world's been. It's the way the world still is. As Texas goes, America goes. As America goes, so goes the world. You know who said that? Dwight D. Eisenhower, when he was first elected president in the 1950s, 1952, look it up.

I looked it up. Did you look it up? Eisenhower won the 1952 election, but he was inaugurated in January 1953. Sure. This quote does not appear in that inaugural speech nor in any speech you ever gave because it's fake. That's good. I believe if I had to guess, Alex is misremembering this line from that speech, quote, whatever

America hopes to bring to pass in the world must first come to pass in the heart of America. You could interpret that as being like the heartland and Alex might think that's Texas or just the Texas is the heart of America. Either way, that's as close as it gets in this speech. Right. Incidentally, in that speech, Eisenhower also lays out nine basic principles that his administration would be guided by in terms of achieving peace. Let's hear this.

One of them is, quote, respecting the United Nations as the living sign of all people's hope for peace. We shall strive to make it not merely an eloquent symbol, but an effective force. That doesn't sound true. It seems like Alex should think that this is a dirty globalist speech. It does sound like that. Anyway, more fake quotes. Yeah.

You're just never going to get a real quote. It's just not going to happen. Because in order to get a real quote, you would actually have to go look for it or learn about it or read it in a book. You'd have to get it from a book. Even QI's book of general quotes or whatever it was, whatever they released that, some of those were fake as shit. You don't know.

You don't know about quotes. Yeah. I can't remember exactly what state it always was. As Maine goes, so goes the country. Sure. There's always the expression, because Maine was like the bellwether state. Sure. Sure.

And there's those expressions. In like the Electoral College sense. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That whole thing.

That kind of framing has been used about a number of states over the course of our history. From the beginning. But yeah, this thing in terms of Eisenhower's and our girl's speeches, this bullshit. Yeah. As the colony of the Carolina's goes, so goes the 13. So here's where I wanted to throw my hands up and just say, I quit. Douglas Carlson, played it out last night, the massively expanding Democrat party weaponized

just department attack on every major national Trump supporter, including in full wars. Here it is. It shocks the conscience of everyone who sees it. This should just be a Tucker Carlson recap show. Like it's just he's running a rerun of Tucker Carlson. Yeah. This is nonsense. Why?

Why are we? Why does this? I mean, it's a, yeah, a national news show set wind for me. So I'm going to dedicate my entire broadcast to rebroadcasting that show. Two Tucker segments. Oh my God. So much. Anyway, Eddie Bravo signed Alex, uh, Instagram video.

Sure. Sure. That's a thing that we should say today. That's an out loud thing that should exist. So Alex is reporting on this Instagram video that everybody said reporting. So this is just a lay person, but that's the most important people. They got hundreds of thousands of views on Instagram asking the question. And I love how they say astrologist are saying the economy is going to upload.

Well, that's astrologist seeing the economy implode and say, I'll make the prediction according to the stars. This is going to happen. I'm not attacking astrologists, but come on. Why not? You know, astrologists, you go up the great reset and the globalist saying they would do this, but they do a good listing of some of the top acts that have just canceled going out and giving shows in the next five months, because 56 days out from the election, they're

planning false flags. Yeah. Alex has a lot of nerve talking down on astrologers and he gets his information from prophetic dreams he's had and visions brought on by chicken fried steak. But those were sent by God, right? Not the stars. Sure. That's stupid. So this Instagram video that Eddie sent to Alex has to do with like a bunch of musicians

canceling tours and stuff. And it's like, it's because they know that something's going to happen, like a false flag terror event at a concert or there's going to be another coronavirus lockdown or cancel his upcoming shows. I don't know. I don't know if he has any shows anyone wants to go to be nice. So I found this video that's laying out the conspiracy and it flashes on screen a bunch of canceled events to make the point that a lot of stuff is getting canceled.

First is the Weezer Broadway residency, which the headline that they show says, quote, citing low ticket sales. So I don't know. Maybe it's not a surprise that weezer on Broadway as Broadway goes. So goes the nation. Right. The next is about Luke Combs cancelling a single concert because he had problems with his voice. I don't know.

That happens. Sure. The third is Shawn Mendes canceling a tour to take personal time. I have no idea who Shawn Mendes is, but good for him. Yep. After that is quote, Carlos Santana cancels six concerts as he continues to recover. Santana is 74 years old and he collapsed on stage in July while performing in Michigan. Is Rob Thomas OK?

He's I assume that the two of them are inextricably like like when when Adams become entangled, I assume that's how what happened after smooth is Santana and Rob Thomas became one. Well, I mean, like when Carlos Santana collapsed on stage, Rob Thomas said, I'd give my world to lift you up to pick you back up off the stage. Sure. Sure. That does make sense. He was a thousand miles away, though.

And all of a sudden he stood up in the middle of a restaurant and started singing that. And then somewhere off in the long distance, Everlast is pissed off that put your lights on. It wasn't as big. Everlast is never going to. It's never going to happen. Everlast is never going to happen under my bed. Oh, boy. It's a good song.

I think sure. Again, don't want to revisit it. Yeah. So then there's another band I've never heard of that canceled a tour and then quote, Foo Fighters cancel all tour dates after drummer Taylor Hawkins death. Yeah. None of these cancellations seem suspicious at all. They're all pretty well understood.

Weezer ticket sales weren't going well. Carlos Santana is old and collapsed on stage. Yeah. One guy canceled one concert because he had a voice issue. And then the drummer of their band died. Man, did you see you didn't? I assume you didn't see the tribute concert. I saw this his son playing the drums on my hero makes you makes you cry every time.

I didn't say it's impressive as hell. He was great because that's also not a super easy song. No, you got it. You got to have the strength to hit. Yeah, you got to have the strength to hit on those. And also get 16, right? Like the poise to be able to perform at all, let alone for a Foo Fighters crowd for your dad's it's a lot of pressure staring into Dave Grohl's eyes

as you play the drum solo that he wrote. It's very impressive. Yeah, the just to be able to be on that stage and not freak out. Yeah, it's as I don't think I wouldn't be ready for it. Nope. Nope. I'd be weeping. Yeah, I think it's 16. I might have done a musical or a play at my school and it freaked me out.

Anyway, honestly, this is some of the stupidest, most early 2000s conspiracy message board ass shit. And it's no surprise that Alex said that Eddie Bravo tipped him off on this one. Yeah, that would make so dumb. Fingers crossed that we get to see Tucker do a whole segment about it next week. And then Alex can cover Tucker covering it like, honestly, between the playing multiple Tucker segments and then this bullshit, I felt so embarrassed that this is the show we do.

I I feel embarrassed that this is the world we live in. Yeah, I mean, you know, we used to talk about being in the dark timeline or in the funny time. This is turned into just like a what are we doing here? People love it. Come on. It's very stupid. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's making choices actively against their own interests.

This is the part where I want to say when I when I say going back to the past is more interesting for me. There's more to do. Yeah. A lot of it is because Alex is doing this like Tucker segments, the covid conspiracy of the day, right from some dumb asses substack share. And then Eddie Bravo sent me a fucking Instagram video about some bullshit. Got hundreds of thousands of views. I fine.

Most important man in the world right now is Eddie Bravo. Totally. Yeah. Based on the dumb nonsense that I see people post that got like hundreds of thousands of views on TikTok. I don't think it's that hard. It must not be that hard. I don't know. Anyway, Alex is selling lots of books and that money is going

straight back into the show, baby. Also, he has a coin. I want to thank you all for your support. Number one book in the world. I got $80,000 just paid to me in the first payment. They think I'll probably make a few million dollars off the book. How it's all getting dumped in to this operation. Most of your sales come within the first few weeks.

You know that lawsuits and the trials and the attacks. We're going to file the appeals. You're going to make $80,000. We're going to continue to battle them for years and keep this operation going. But it's up to you to fund the operation. Thanks for your support. Infowarstore.com. They've deindustrialized America.

They've done one sided trade deals to shut you down. Everything they're doing to me, they're doing to you. We're just the focal point of that fight. 1776 coin.com. I'd like to see a sign of liberty and just sell out the 9000 coins that are left till the thousand yesterday. I want to see them sold today. Yeah, let's move these coins.

He has another coin he's selling. As a businessman, I would like to see all of my business done quickly as opposed to slowly. Yes. I love to that he was like, all right, we're doing this series of four coins. It's just going to be four coins. Also, hey, I got a fifth coin. I remember when Batman Forever came out, you could get these mugs from McDonald's or whatever.

It was Frosty. Yeah, yeah. And you had you would get all the I would try. I tried to get all of them. I tried to get all of them. You know what? I feel like those are worth as much now as that coin will be later. Right. Yeah. I mean, it is overpriced a little bit. And we'll deal with that a little bit later.

Alex does get self conscious about it. Well, so look, you take some calls. I don't care. They're dumb, boring. So let's go to the 14th. All right. Alex has another covid conspiracy of the day story. What a broadcast we've got lined up for you today. We can put the full show headline up on screen. It tells it all.

Global bomb show secret Israeli government report with video of the report from their health ministry head confirms covid vax causing massive side effects and death. No, our top story is not going to be a show trial in Connecticut and all the fraud that's going on up there. Why not? We'll cover some of that today. And it's incredible. And Robert Barnes joins us this and all the other information coming out

is the proof of the premeditated global UNWF big pharma directed mass murder. Wow. So I was curious about this bombshell report Alex is covering here. So I searched for the words he was saying and imagine my surprise when I found that he's just reading the headline for the article on Info Wars that includes the embedded video of the show that he's in the middle of doing. This is just a headline Alex himself has written for this day's show. And you can see the exact same wording

reposted on tons of really shady looking blogs, all of which are just reposting Alex's video. But weirdly, none of them have links to these documents in this Israeli study that is supposed to be the bombshell. So I did a little digging around and I found what Alex is covering. And it's just another post on Steve Kirsch's substack. Jesus Christ. There's a video on rumble that purports to be

from the Israeli Health Ministry having a meeting where they discuss findings that are that that there are some longer term side effects of the Pfizer vaccine that hadn't been known previously. Findings which are being said to have been covered up by Pfizer and the Israeli government. Sure. I can't find coverage of this on any outlet that I find even halfway respectable and I don't speak Hebrew. So I don't know what's being said in this video. Right.

The context in the original narrative framework for this story traces back to a post on Twitter by a woman named Yaffa Shiraz, who's credited generally as a health and risk communications researcher and a health journalist. This translates to her running a website called Real Time News, which is kind of it comes off as an Israeli version of a lot of the dicey sources that I run into on this show. Things like World Night Daily, Gateway Pondit, or Steve Kirsch's substack.

If your name makes me wince, then I know, you know, Real Time News and I'm like, that's not that's going to hurt. It's uncreative and so bland as to be like you're trying to you're totally. Yeah, you're you're trying to you're lying to me. Come on now. I don't know too much about Shiraz, but it's worth noting that she was a major source of the fraudulent narrative that tons of soccer players were dropping dead because of vaccine side effects.

She fudged data and miscalculated shocking numbers on that front, which then became big talking points in the anti-vax world that we cover. For this reason, and because there's absolutely zero reputable coverage of this video, I'm skeptical of the way it's being discussed. These particular information sources haven't are the benefit of the doubt. So I got nowhere to go on this. Yeah. Yeah. I can I can cover it as it's being told by these people and the ways that

Alex's coverage of it doesn't even match the version of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. But I haven't I have no idea. You're I mean, yeah, you're not going to win. You're not going to win. Also, why is Alex using I mean, so the Israeli health minister has come out and said that Pfizer's lying about or ostensibly. No, that's the that's the conspiracy.

No. So the video is of a zoom meeting that the is it's like a group of researchers that were commissioned by the health ministry. OK, to look at side effects and they apparently found some longer term side effects and some side effects that hadn't been seen in the signals that Pfizer had right, gotcha, taken note of. And then apparently after this, the health ministry put out a report or or maybe even in conjunction with Pfizer that covered up these

these side effects that they found that's our allegation. Generally speaking, right? So then the government was covering it up. Yeah, gotcha and Pfizer. Yeah, the government and Pfizer. So OK, I mean, he'll just accept anyone who says what he wants to them to say. Yeah, like it doesn't matter. Like there should be sources that should be off limits for him.

Well, he'll he'll accept anybody who says what he wants them to say. And he'll also make up things to add on to things. Right. Right. People who are saying things that are close to what he wants them to say. Of course. So we got another COVID conspiracy of the day. CDC admits it falsely claimed it was monitoring vaccine safety but still won't release the full data.

But now we're admitting that it's killing people. They're desperately needs to be some prison time. CDC director admits agency a false information on government vaccine safety monitoring because they didn't do it because they done secret tests. The CDC knew was killing the rats, which is why in the 2000 October report they predicted everything that happened. So this is a fraudulent story, essentially what it boils down to is semantics. The Epoch Times was running some stories about the CDC's monitoring of VAERS data

and they were contending that the CDC was not analyzing the data at all. The CDC had made some comments that they had used a data analysis method called proportional reporting ratio or PRR. But in fact, they'd only used that method between March 25th, 2002 and July 31st, 2022, as is clarified in a letter from the CDC director to Senator Ron Johnson, who is questioning her about this, quote, CDC and FDA chose to rely on empirical Bayesian data mining, more robust technique used to analyze disproportionate reporting

rather than PRR calculations to mitigate potential false signals. CDC performed PRR analysis between March 25th and July 31st, 2022 to corroborate the results of the EB data mining. Notably, results from PRR analysis were generally consistent with EB data mining, revealing no additional unexpected safety signals. This isn't a story about the CDC not monitoring data. It's just about them using a different methodology that they felt was more useful and possibly someone misspeaking at some point in the past.

It is it is so funny and and so just the world of humanity that the idea of somebody going out of their way to double check if something's right is the source of a conspiracy for people. It's very suspicious. Get the fuck out of here. You're trying to verify the shit you're telling me. That's only something that liars would do. Sure. Wait, what? Yeah, nevermind. Yeah, fact checkers, thorough people.

They're suspicious liars. So anyway, we got a we got a got a story here. Pray every day we see 50 or 60 of these articles. Teen athletes, revised mysterious six foot blood clot. But now football's off the table. He did, of course, take the shot. Six foot blood clot. And it just gets more crazy.

It's not a single blood clot, but it's six feet of blood clots. Right. So this is a headline that Alex is reading from CBN, which, of course, is the Christian Broadcasting Network. This is about a high school student named Caden Clymer, who had a large blood clot and multiple nowhere in the story does it mention climbers vaccination status. Alex is just making that up because that in there. He has a vested interest in reporting every story about a young person

who gets hurt as being the consequence of their getting vaccinated. Right. He can't make his point by discussing reality, so he just makes up whatever works best for him so he can keep his audience scared and in his sway. Incidentally, the CBN story includes this, that Alex never talks about, doesn't mention this at all. Quote, it's unclear what caused the extensive clots in his body, but doctors diagnosed Clymer with a condition called inferior vena cava

atresia. The disorder can be acquired or congenital. Even the CBN is letting you know that there's a decent chance Clymer was born with this condition. Right. I looked up other sources on the story and no one mentions whether or not he was vaccinated. I did find a lot of angry blog saying that the fact that stories don't say whether he was vaccinated is proof that he is and they're covering it up. I think that's dumb. Yeah.

Also in July, 2021, Ohio, where this high school is located, passed a law prohibiting mandates for public schools. So there's literally no reason to just automatically assume that he was vaccinated. Alex doesn't care about the reality of this situation. To him, this story is useful if the kid was vaccinated, so he can make it look like this is a consequence of vaccination. So he doesn't need any proof to justify reporting that he was. That's how simple his brain is and how little he cares about what he tells his audience.

I want to I want Alex to sit and watch like a premier league game. And just every time a soccer player goes down, just be like, oh, my God, that must be vaccine. Oh, he's getting up again. All right. OK. But I swear to you, the next time it's vaccination that caused him to fall. Right. I swear. It wasn't a hard tackle. He was vaccinated. It wasn't Zinedine Zidane headbutting him. It was the vaccine. How long ago did that happen? Years?

We have made we have made five at least references pre 2000 today. I think I think we're we're old. I don't think that was pre. Yeah, my I don't know. I think I know Batman forever was like 97 or something like that. I want to say, well, I watched that World Cup with my brother because it was like Zidane's last world that could have been 2004. That sounds about right. Yeah. And and I do old men trying to remember years. I saw I saw that headbutt live, I think. Yeah, I feel like I did

because I remember having a whoo reaction to it. How about that? Yeah. And then there was a rap lyric that's like I'm like Zidane. How I kick it. Yes, Zidane. I'll be blowing trees in the mezzanine. Who was that? That was the Reaver. I remember that. I think I told you about it. Yes. No one else has ever heard that. That is why that would make sense. Probably some night at a bar, one of our many conversations.

Eventually we got to Zidane. Yeah. Yeah. My brother was big into the French team of Terry Henri. OK, that's all I remember. Is he a goalie? No. I only remember a couple of those French players and then the U.S. World Cup team from when I was a kid. Yeah, because they tried really hard to make like Alexi Lawless, like a really cool grunge type of figure because he had the red hair and the beard. Yeah. And then there was Marcello Balboa at a cool name.

Can't go wrong with a Marcello Balboa. I feel like he did the bicycle kick. And that must, you know, sometimes, soccer memories. Sometimes you think of you see somebody's name and you think of the moment that their parents named him and you're like, what were they thinking? But after like a Marcello Balboa, they must have high fived. Like, that's the best name we've ever come up with. We nailed it. I feel like there were a couple other people I remember on that team.

But let's let's move on. Let's move on. Because a big name is about to show up. OK, it's media star Bobby Barnes, but he's not on to talk about the trial. Sure. All right, ladies and gentlemen, constitutional lawyer, historian, good friend of mine, criminal lawyer as well. Marcello joins us into the next hour. And no, he's not here right now to talk about the show Trial in Connecticut. That's important. He's here later to talk about incredible developments

at the start of the next hour. But he's involved suing Pfizer, Robert Kennedy, Jr. with the big whistleblower that helped this whole ball start rolling. So I don't get, you know, butterflies around Hollywood stars or NFL quarterbacks until they actually start telling the truth. And I do like Aaron Rodgers love him. But but I just get butterflies with Robert Barnes because wherever there's the fight for liberty, wherever there's a battle against tyranny, he's there.

Alex had to save himself because he had just spent a while talking about how cool Aaron Rodgers was, right? He was on Bill Maher's shit, right? And he was doing some anti-vaxx nonsense. Sure. And so I was like, I like Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't. Yeah, I wasn't talking about how Brett Favre defrauded the welfare system. No, not talking about that one, right? No. No.

So yeah, Barnes is not to talk about the the trial. He's going to talk about his. Doomed lawsuits that he's had any. How did he swindle JFK Jr. into Robert Robert Kennedy? I don't think it was hard. Hmm. That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. I think it works. It's a perfect arrangement for the both of them.

It's going nowhere and they'll both scam a bunch of money off their followers for it. It's true. Anyway, sad. Alex has got to complain a little bit here about his trial. Jones is trending number one again. Every major news channel demonizing us lying about us and never explaining that you don't find somebody guilty by a judge and then have a show trial about how guilty are they? Tying the hands of the lawyers in Texas, tying the hands in Connecticut.

But the difference is in Texas, the judge would turn the internet feet off and the cameras would all be turned off where she would spend hours lecturing my lawyer that he couldn't speak. People said his lawyers an idiot. Why is he defending because it's a damages hearing where they're having their own trial, but then we can't defend because we're, quote, guilty. The judges say. So you finally understand a damages trial. He's an independent analyst.

Doesn't work for him for wars or for me at this time. He's able to lay this out. He's been doing live streaming with literally over a million viewers yesterday with his co-hosts, another lawyer out of Canada, laying this out. We got a bunch of clips, but just lay out what's really happening here because this is unprecedented. This judge is sending it all out where she spends hours telling my lawyer, you can't ask questions about this.

You can't ask questions about that. They say they're opening statement. We want to shut him down and take him off air. He says, well, I'm going to ask these people. It's literally, you know, this FBI, you never said his name. I want to ask you, did you talk about taking Alan's off air? Nope, you can't ask that question. It's incredible.

Explain what's happening. So this isn't accurate at all, but what can you really expect? Yeah. Norm's strategy, as far as we've seen up to this point, is to insist that the plaintiffs are political operatives who transmuted their grief about a tragedy and to activism against the Second Amendment. And they're exaggerating their trauma in order to use money in the legal system as weapons against Alex because he is the only true

supporter of the Second Amendment or something. Right. As a consequence of their default sanctions, Alex aside, isn't permitted to make certain claims, which they could have contested and raised in an actual trial if they hadn't engaged in a very clear pattern of malicious non-participation with the discovery process. As the third day of the trial really seemed to make clear, there are many things that were intentionally withheld from discovery, particularly Google

analytics data. And it's not hard to see the reason that they were withheld. Probably has to do about how bad they look for Alex. I can't confirm whether or not Infowars has ever used Google analytics, Dan. Yeah. I can only go by what Infowars says. Now, sure, all those emails, they look like we did. So on day three, what we're referring to here, day two and three have

largely been the questioning of the pause dispenser, if you will. She is the corporate representative and a lot of Thursday, day three, had to do with the question of Google analytics because they were supposed to turn over these Google analytics data, right? And they did not and claimed that they just didn't use it. They don't even use it, especially not for making decisions. Right. Yeah.

And so it was a lot of instances that were brought up of Google analytics being referenced in in emails and snapshots of Google analytics. JPEGs. Yeah, yeah, which is not the data that is full. It's not a full picture. It's not what was demanded in discovery, but it does very clearly illustrate that they were lying and not turning over this for a reason. Well, OK, good thing.

So, so, OK, so here's what you're going to say when we turn this data over to you because we had a huge spiking traffic and we knew about that by checking Google analytics, we use that to decide what our coverage about Sandy Hook going forward would be and we saw that the right way to do it was to lie about it. And apparently there's a deposition of Alex's dad, David Jones, who said that when something works well, they try to replicate it, which again, taken in conjunction with this looks really doesn't look good. Doesn't look good.

But have you considered I've never heard of Google? Interesting. Yeah. So this is just the latest example of things that they clearly didn't turn over that were responsive to discovery demands. The text that Mark produced in the Austin case that included the word Sandy Hook clearly demonstrate either an active decision to not turn them over or that Infowars didn't even look for the stuff that they were required to look for,

which is still against the discovery. Yeah, all the rules don't exist. Yeah, this song and dance got old long ago, but we're in another trial. So we're going to hear this quite a bit. The ultimate irony is that Barnes was Alex's lawyer during a lot of the beginning of the discovery abuse. So he might not be Alex's lawyer now, but he's in essence the architect of getting Alex into the situation he's in now.

Seems like the perfect person to interview about how you're being wronged by the courts. I mean, you can't help but look at this as Barnes's idea, right? Like from the beginning, the idea was don't cooperate. Barnes was their lawyer. I think I think you could maybe make that assumption. Incompetence is certainly a possible explanation. It's it strains credulity a little bit. Yeah, I don't know if Barnes intended it to get to where it is now.

I mean, that is definitely up in the air. Yeah, for sure, because we have replaced a lot of lawyers. Many of whom in depositions we have heard implied were not stoked about what they were doing. Well, and they said that they're considering suing Barnes for malpractice. So there is that now. The judge in Texas didn't turn off the internet feeds and lecture Alex's lawyer for hours that's just completely made up and actually might be defamatory. Chris Mehdi, the plaintiff's lawyer here in Connecticut, did say that a fitting

punishment for Alex's to get him off air to make it so he can't profit off hurting people in the future. That could possibly be argued to be a little bit out there in terms of an opening, but I think it's fine. It's a damages hearing and the lawyer is saying that fitting damages would be to impose whatever punishment makes Alex unable to continue doing this damage as a future. Alex is also misrepresenting the issue with Norm's questioning of the FBI agent, who is the first witness called by the plaintiffs.

That had to do with Norm asking inappropriate questions about whether or not he was one of the people in Connecticut who had petitioned NBC to not air the Megan Kelly interview. Right. It wasn't trying to take Alex off air, per se, and Alex himself filmed a bunch of videos where he was trying to get that interview pulled. So I don't even know what the point is here. Also, Norm had no reason to believe that the guy was involved in that and his

conduct was way out of line. It was part of a chain of things he got reprimanded for where he was trying to present to the jury that Alex is only getting sued because of Hillary Clinton putting a target on him, basically the premise of that cool documentary Alex's war. Yeah. That fair, impartial documentary. Alex's war is great. Sounds very similar to Alex's defense. You know that I just saw one best soundtrack at Tiff.

Did it? Yes. That is what Alex's war just did. Wow. Yeah. Congratulations. International. Yep. It was a great soundtrack. If nothing else, what are you going to do?

So Barnes has some thoughts about Norm. What are they? Well, they're good. Are they? No, two. I wouldn't have good thoughts credit. Nor if you want to see what good defense advocacy looks like against a rogue judge in a hostile setting, there is no better example than Norm Patis's

representations yesterday. And I recommended watching that video in this part of the trial to people all across the country, even if they're not interested in this case is particularly because how do you stand up to a judge? Alex, Norm Patis showed how you do so. You don't capitulate to rogue judges on the first day of the trial. Norm almost got the jury excused because he wouldn't stop making inappropriate statements in his opening remarks.

Yeah. On the second day, Norm got chewed out for openly disrespecting the judge and the court by not standing up to make objections. Yep. On the third day, Norm fell asleep for a short stretch and then quote tweeted a post from Mike Cernovich, who was trying to be edgy about busing immigrants to Martha's Vineyard. Yeah. He tweeted during the trial and he fell asleep. I just at the moment, like we texted about it because it was the setup for a

three stooge's bit where where it was like the judge saying to the the lawyers in the jury like, Hey, you know, it happens sometimes where the jury has to get up and go out and get up and go out and I'm not trying not to make you do that. So we're just going to talk to the lawyers here and she's telling Norm, don't do what you're doing. You can't do that. I'll have to set the jury out of the room and he's like, No, listen, you're right. You're right. I won't do that.

And then five seconds later, he does it and she just screamed, get over here. That was the moment where it was like, you can't you've got to be kidding me. This is this isn't allowed. And then the smash cut to like an hour later, he's asleep, but he's got like half a ping pong ball. Yes. Yes. It is it is one of the most. This is not a good job.

If you had never seen a trial before ever in your life, you would watch this shit and go, man, these things are a lot crazier than I ever would have imagined. Yeah. I thought they were just a real quiet, somber affairs. I am saying that. I mean, it's not it's not like as chaotic as maybe you're making it seem. No, no, no, no. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mostly when Norm decides he's going to get get a little loose.

He's got he's got a power up button. Yeah. And like I said, it's not fun. It makes me feel on edge. It makes me feel worried because it's so disrespectful. And, you know, the family members are in the courtroom. You know, that is something that has been brought up. Right. And the cameras panned a couple of times and I've seen a couple of people that I recognize. Sure.

And like that is a reality of this. Yeah. And when Norm is being a shithead. Right. That's a factor. And yeah, I don't know. You should you should grow up. You should also get woke insurance. All right, buddy. So Alex and Barnes are pissed off because, man, I just want to make this about Hillary. Sure. And what's the one name that is all about what led to this case

that this judge says can't be mentioned, can't be asked about, can't be talked about, can't discuss it in opening statement, can't discuss it in direct examination, can't discuss it in cross. She ran national TV ads of edited tape of me questioning Sandy Hills, which is my right. And I don't apologize for questioning it. I apologize if out of context hurts my feelings. She literally says you will not bring that up that she ran

$30 million worth of ads in the closing months of the campaign. 2016. In fact, as Norbert has explained, this whole case came about because of Hillary Clinton. And yet Hillary Clinton is the one name that can't be talked about, can't ask questions about her, can't mention an opening statement, can't reference her to the jury. She tells Norm he can't talk about anything. She told him yesterday, you've got to say your clients guilty.

I've found him guilty. No, it's that you can't try and undo. Yeah. You can't you you it's it's established. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That you are liable. You are. And it was you have lost by default. Yeah. You can't pretend that you didn't. That's going to ruin the jury.

Right. It's going to fuck up the entire case. Yeah, it was like it was like when I he was talking about he was trying to get Britney to admit that she's lying. And he kept saying the word lie. And Norm objected like you can't say lie. That makes it and the judge has to be like overruled. It is a lie. She can't she can't just say like, no, no, don't ask. It's like, yes, she's lying.

Yeah. What else is there to say? Not much. And the the whole thing with Hillary, that's a really interesting thing you could have done in court if you had not gotten yourself defaulted by a clear pattern of abuse of the discovery process. Right. I mean, it would have failed as a defense. Yeah, it would have been ridiculous.

But it would have been appropriate in that other setting for for a while until the judge was like, you know, this has nothing to do with anything. Right. You are, I believe, allowed to defend yourself by being a piece of shit. No, just completely like saying stuff that is like, wow, that doesn't make sense. Yeah, that's fair. You are entitled to a nonsensical defense.

I suppose you're not in this setting. Right. It's a damages hearing. It is a damages hearing. You things are established as real. Yeah. Yeah. So they don't seem to understand or I mean, it's obviously false, not understanding. Sure. But why Bill Aldenberg, the FBI agent, is a plaintiff. Knowing that you have a case supposed to be about damages

and yet almost none of the evidence presented has anything to do with damages. And they look at their lead witness for all these people. Like the media has covered everybody except their lead plaintiff in the case. Who's the lead plaintiff that was the first witness who testified? It was not a parent of anybody who died. It's not a sibling of anybody who died at St. York. It's an FBI lawyer, an FBI lawyer. He's the one who is their lead number one plaintiff.

And Robert, what they're doing is setting the precedent where the garbage man that never said his name, I questioned something he can sue me. This is bureaucrats setting the precedent to sue people that disagree with him. No, no, it's not. Nope. But Barnes has decided that because he was the first witness, you can tell what this is all about. You can tell. Isn't that evidence, though, that it's not about Alex being called the person who did the thing at Sandy Hook?

If the FBI agent isn't a member of the family, never mind. Well, I will say that Alex does again, say that people he knows and his lawyers don't know who Adam Lanza is, which, again, is shockingly poor preparation on their part, if that's true, which it's not. Yeah. Here's a high ranking, well regarded FBI counsel. Right. I mean, that's who this guy is. This isn't some low level schmuck. This is and he is their lead number one plaintiff testifying witness.

That tells you what this case is really all about. This case is not about Sandy Hook. This case is not even really about the parents and the families or they would have been the first witness up for these lawyers. Instead, it's an FBI lawyer saying who admits you never even talked about him. You never even mentioned him. You never even referenced him.

Never knew who he was till he sued me. Bill Aldenburg was likely their first witness because he has a very powerful story about being one of the people who responded to the school who had to see the horrors of what had happened firsthand and then was subjected to a campaign of harassment and attacks because of information put up by Wolfgang Halbig and endorsed by Alex. This has to do with the accusation that he was an actor and accusations that he and one of the parents were the same person.

So it is all connected to the exact same stuff that is relevant to everybody. Right. Barnes knows this. He's just a piece of shit. And he's pretending that this is just an FBI lawyer because Barnes is a piece of shit. Sticks and stones, buddy. Don't worry about it. Yeah, just an insult. You piece of shit. Yeah.

Also, weird that Barnes doesn't bring up that the second witness was Carly Soto, who is a relative of Victoria Soto. Yeah, the teacher at the school who died. Yeah, her testimony. I guess you can really only get the sense of a case by the first witness, not the second. And you probably want to just ignore that because it was. Especially if for hard to look, especially if four week long trial.

Yeah. Another thing to keep in mind is that what has been covered does have a lot to do with damages in that aspect of this case. It's just that acknowledging that is really dangerous for Alex and Barnes. First of all, the anguish that these people have experienced is incredibly relevant. Secondly, the details about Alex's business operation and how things work internally demonstrate the extent to which they were aware of the profitability of acting in ways that caused that anguish. It's all super relevant.

And if Barnes really wanted a chance to deal with his stupid arguments in court, he had his shot. I guess he could probably bring some of this stuff up to defend himself when Alex, Susan for malpractice, if that ends up happening. But yeah, probably won't. Yeah, maybe will their their their entire deal right now is is trying to obfuscate the the the the connection points between, you know, like, because here's the here's a fact, you know,

this is how their business works here. This is a fact. This is what they did. This is a fact. This is what happened. All of those things, there are those connecting points that the that the lawyers have to get to, you know, like, here's how we directly connect those two things.

And that's the only place where they can argue is just like, I'm going to attack this connection. And if I can't attack the connection, I'm going to attack whatever the space around it is, or you could yell Hillary. Well, I mean, it's all Hillary. That's what connects all of them. Yeah, well, I mean, Alex, I think you could argue he's afraid of Hillary. Actually, you couldn't.

Alex is not afraid of anything. Oh. This song should be evidence. Put it in there. He won't change. He's playing the song. You want somebody to take on the globalist? You want somebody that's fearless?

I don't even see that as a good point in my life, but I am fearless. My dad was known as brave Dave, what? And I just didn't help it. I don't have fear. The only fear I got is the fear of brave Dave, the dentist, gentlemen. And we are now on the front lines of the fight against the New World Order. And you want to back your family? You want to back the future?

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Oh, man. Yeah, you know, there is something about a good jam that either makes you want to dance or say inspirational yelling things. You know what, though? I mean, it is true that MPR sells memberships and you get gifts for the memberships that would cost less if you just bought them at a store like a mug or something. There's a slight difference, though.

And I don't think I would be super into paying that much for a mug. If Kyri's doll was desperately yelling at me to buy the mugs, we can pay his legal expenses to fight a lawsuit that he's already lost about how he defamed family members of murdered children. Yeah. Then I don't think I would get into the pledge drive. Yeah. He's just like, hey, marketplace is a show that I do. Just just so everybody knows, we're doing our fundraiser right now.

We're opening subscriptions for as many people as we can because we have been sued by the families of Remington's owners. And really, it is just Hillary Clinton that is trying to destroy us. There's something about the PBS. You know, we're not allowed to define ourselves in court. And the connections between these law firms and Hillary are very clear. It's a kangaroo court. They have already decided Lord knows.

So Barnes has some choice words for the conservatives out there who aren't helping. Sure. And then Alex says something that confused me. OK, all of the conservative institutional press, anybody that's involved on the legal side should be embarrassed and humiliated that they're defending this case. I dare any of them to watch yesterday's proceeding and call that a fair trial to call that the the beacon of American civil justice. America's justice system is supposed to be the beacon of justice to the world.

And right now it looks like a dystopian nightmare. It looks like the trial. I mean, I've seen this way just now. Just now, Alex, what Venezuelan show trials have you seen? What? What are you talking about? Venezuelan show trials. Name one. There was Hugo Chavez. What? Yeah, he was tried in Venezuela.

Which one? What trial? We talked about the one where that was that was a show trial. Alex watched that he watched the whole thing. I all of the kind, you know, I just think that's silly. Castro, he was on trial. So anyway, fuck Barnes. He's he's out. Yeah. And Alex has another guest and it's our boy Roger and he has an interesting take.

This shocked me. It's too blunt. It's bizarre. It's about something that we're not supposed to talk about on Info Wars. OK, let's let's get into the waterfront here. I'm trying to give you the floor. Well, one of the things that's disturbing me right now, Alex, are the actions of Peter Thiel.

For those of you who don't know, Peter Thiel is a billionaire, was a major financier of Donald Trump's candidacy. So real quick, just to just to butt in here, Peter Thiel is not a name that is usually brought up on Info Wars. Right. Second, you're not supposed to acknowledge that Peter Thiel was a giant funder of Trump's campaign. Well, he was self funded with Peter Thiel's money. Right. But but associating this right wing billionaire

guy with funding Trump is not something that is generally unacceptable. But Roger's bringing it out. But he has some other problems. Gotcha. And he stepped forward essentially to underwrite at tens of millions of dollars of the endorsements of J.D. Vance for the U.S. Senate in Ohio and Blake Masters and Mass in Arizona. Is that how much it costs? I might add that I very strongly support both of them America first candidates.

But having financed their nominations, Mr. Thiel is now declining to finance their general election efforts. And both of them are behind their opponents slightly and behind their opponents in fundraising. Mr. Thiel comes forward and says, well, the Republican Party has not defined enough of a positive image, a positive program for this election. Alex, all elections are about the incumbent party

about the job that is being done by congressional Democrats in combination with the Biden White House. So Roger is problem with Peter Thiel is that he gave these guys a bunch of money right in order to run their primary campaigns. Right. And now they are unpopular and not raising money. And Peter Thiel isn't continuing to give them millions of dollars right to to prop up their general campaigns. Right. Right. That's an interesting gripe.

No, here's the problem. OK, these candidates. All right. Sold themselves to a billionaire. Right. Right. And the billionaire bought them. But then the billionaire tossed them away. That's not fair. Replace this with a Democratic candidate and George Soros. And here's how much here's how much it costs to own a politician. It might as well be what he's saying. Would you like to own a politician?

This is silly. Here's how much you have to spend. Roger. Wow. Roger. Anyway, Roger has some other complaints. This one about Kevin McCarthy. Sure. Please continue. Just give us your analysis. That's what I want of the 2022 midterms. And then secondarily, you have Kevin McCarthy. Who kind of following in the footsteps of Newt Gingrich

has put forward a proposal that is kind of reminiscent of the contract for America. The problem with this is that in order to have a policy statement brought enough for every Republican to support, all one needs to do is to look at the flip side of the Biden administration. In other words, we don't stand for any putting forward pale pastels. We need to have a bold policy, but it's easily defined as being the direct opposite of that, which the Democrats are for.

See, Roger is really smart here. You can create a fake version of your enemy and then define yourself as the opposite of it and trick people into supporting you for no reason. It's basically the story of Alex's career. Yeah. He's just like, Hey, guys, stop it. Just say you're the opposite of this. Right. We don't like this.

But I mean, all this is basically Roger, his entire take on the midterms in this interview is just classic Roger attack. Don't defend ever attack. If this midterm is going to be about us being worried about your trial about the Sandy Hook stuff, about Bannon getting arrested, about Mike Lindell's phone being taken away, Trump being in trouble. If the Mar-a-Lago raid, if we're going to like play those games at all, we're fucked. Yeah. We need to just attack Biden on everything.

Yep. And I mean, it's just classic Roger Stone tactics. Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's not interesting. No, no. I mean, it would be better if he was like, it reminds me of whenever I was an intern for Nixon's campaign and he was like, should we just say whites only? And it was like, no, don't say it. Reminds me when I was self in opposition to reminds me when I was hanging out with a young Ben Stein.

And I said, are you going to say whites only on your show? And he said, no, no, no, no, no, not today. So Alex wants to know. Yeah. The big question is Trump running, bro. Oh, my God. Roger Stone, Trump, we know he told a lot of people, including you and M.G. M.T.G. in early July, he was set to announce and he said, well, I'm going to run, but I'm not going to announce when.

Well, that's an announcement to run strategic. Then they created all this law fair and all these fake criminal charges try to go after him. What is the inside baseball currently on Trump running? And is the announcement intimate or what's unfolding? Alex, the only thing that's predictable about Donald J. Trump is that he's entirely unpredictable. In a certain sense, that's not good.

President's all on his home in Marlago has galvanized his support so that I don't think an immediate announcement of candidacy is either, you know, in the offing or necessarily desirable. So maybe it'll be a little while. Maybe. I mean, I, but I am. That's a nonic. I am now enlisting the mad hatter to run for president, because if the only thing that you guys need is that it's unpredictable,

dude, if I got news for you, yeah, it's it's you don't want. You don't want a steady hand and Jesus Christ. That's that's crazy. So Roger doesn't think that Trump's necessarily going to announce any time soon and they weren't wrong to play around about. I was going to do it on the 4th of July because I was totally fine. It's totally very cool.

Yeah, it was super awesome. But yeah, it looks like Roger's got another definite. I happen to believe that Governor Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, my governor, intends to announce his candidacy literally immediately after the election. And I think the president remains needs to remain mindful of that. I still think it is more likely than not that he will be a candidate. I just heard a record skipping noise.

We're going to put this on the front of the interview once it's supposed to be in a video. Roger Stone is rarely wrong about his political analysis. You're you're saying you're inside baseball or is that just your opinion? The Sanis will announce after the midterms in 56 days. That is that's hard intelligence, Alex. That's not just my instinct. That's hard intelligence.

And by the way, as President Donald Trump has said, Ron DeSantis has the right to do that. It's his prerogative to run if he wishes to run. Oh, wow. Trump said it was cool. Wow. He has Trump's permission to run it. What a good boy.

What a good boy he's been. He got a pat on the head. Huh. So it's hard intel. We'll see. Jesus. Actually, I mean, I wouldn't be too surprised if that does end up. It would make sense. Yeah. It wouldn't make as much sense if he did it on the 4th of July. Take him back America.

Yeah. Yeah. So Alex has another idea about this. What about my sources that say they've got a secret agreement to run together? The Electoral College prevents that. You cannot have a vote from Florida. Correct. You cannot have a president and a vice president from the same state, because if you do, you would forfeit the electoral votes of Florida's 27 votes.

That's too precious for us to do. But couldn't Trump just swing back saying he lives in New York again? Do you think he wants to pay New York state income taxes? I think not. Well, this president seems cool. I mean, she's sure a billionaire. Do you think he wants to pay a slight percentage? Do you think that he cares enough about this country to pay more taxes?

I mean, come on, man. That the the amount of grift that's open that Roger can just talk about as being a grift that's it's wild, acceptable to say is happening. Because fuck it. Yeah. You know, once Roger found God, I guess maybe I don't I don't give a shit. What am I? I'm not going to lie about how I'm a liar. OK, I'm going to tell the truth as God intended about how I lie to everyone all the time. Yeah. So we got some false flags coming, right?

Sure. Of course. Absolutely. It's the midterms back to false flags. I'm not a rocket scientist, but I'm also not stupid. When you've got Hillary and Democrat Party members like Tim Ryan yesterday, they're everywhere, saying Republicans are terrorists. They're going to blow stuff up. Republicans are illegal. They're the biggest terror group. It's imminent. They're going to get us there.

I mean, we saw the Whitmer stage the tag. We saw the January 6th provocateur. It's not even two plus two equals four. It's the number one is the number one. They're obviously provocaturing or planning something with 55 days out. Your take on that and how do we counter it? You know, as I have said here on the show and in other places, I still yet fear some other kind of manufactured health crisis,

some kind of additional pandemic that you predicted that six months ago. And they tried monkeypox. It didn't work, but you're right. They already tried tried. How they tried. How did it not work? They tried monkeypox because they didn't kill enough of the rest of us. But how did it not work? If Alex has this conception that these super powerful, evil people can just launch pandemics whenever they want and all this.

Why didn't it work? According to Alex, what is what how? How is there a super villain group that goes through all the effort? Right. Launching a bio weapon. And then they're sitting in their bunker, their underground base, and they're like, fuck, it didn't work. Well, well, well, what now?

What you need to understand, though, is that the devil is impatient, which is why he did the whole falling thing in the first place. Ten years behind. And he's a quitter. He's a listen. Oh, shit. The monkeypox thing. It didn't work. Pack it up. Pack it up. We're on to the next idea. I don't know. It's pinky in the brain. This is stupid.

That is who Alex is fighting against. So I told you, we'd get back to Alex's bankruptcy strategy thing. Yes. And how it's dicey. Yes. And that's that comes here. This is after Roger leaves and like there's a weird tone after. I will discuss that here in a minute. But first, bankruptcy thing, the strategy in the last fake trial, where I'm already found guilty a month ago in this new one,

where the judge is promising to hold me in contempt or even get there next week, is that I have hundreds of millions of dollars on my children. I don't have a million and a half dollars in the bank. And as big an operation as this is, that's like on E. And I don't want to get into all this, but just a week ago, we were like, hey, we're doing well in the chapter five bankruptcy. All we got to do is prove we're profitable.

And then whatever judgments they have, can't shut us down. Just whatever profit there is in the future. These jerks get. But who cares? We're on air. We don't care about money. And they're openly saying, get rid of the bankruptcy. Just shut him down to the bankruptcy judge. The judge is like, well, that's not what you're supposed to do. So so if you understand what he's saying,

basically what he's trying to do in bankruptcy court is artificially inflate the amount of money that's coming into the business to make it appear that he's profitable and solvent by just doing these things like, you know, the release of the book and the 1776 coin. All this stuff just like really pushing that that shit hard. In order to and the the the presenting things as a fundraiser, share the overpricedness of the coin, the markup on the book and stuff. These things are in order to create the appearance of a business doing well

so he can coast through the bankruptcy court and make it like he won't be able to keep it up after that. No, but then ideally, I guess his image of it is that like they won't crush me. I'll just not have money to give them later or something. It's a bad strategy, but I also think it's it feels fraudulent. I mean, it does feel like Alex is just coming out and saying on his show, I'm betting they won't find all my money. Yeah, like I mean, it might as well.

He might as well be like, listen, I've hidden a lot of money. They're not going to find all of it. Like that might as well be what he's saying. It does feel that way. Yeah. And we'll be able to like just sort of sully sullenberger land. Yeah, yeah, whatever. It's not going to be a runway. Listen, it's not going to be great.

Nobody's going to be happy. But we are we're going to get awards when we land this thing because it is impossible to land. Yeah. Yeah. So you have one last clip here and this just really captures the vibe towards the end of the show. It's a bummer. Yeah.

Lord, I cannot change. You say that you want to go to the land that's far away. How are we supposed to get there with the way that we're living today? You talk a lot about God. Freedom comes from the car. But that's not what

this is the end of time. Not what I want at all. I want to be your power. You call it. The crimes and the vaccine poison will bring our money. It will order or will bring us down. The battle is now joined as they try to openly kill us. All right, let's play some clips here.

This isn't about Alex Jones. It's about the murder of free speech, the murder of your process. Here is. The judge, the puppet judge, the plaintiffs that have already found this guilty. Now they still want to fake show trial on the damages, trying to pre-screen my lawyer's questions. You wonder why my lawyer in Texas couldn't talk. He was threatened with sanctions if he did.

So it he just plays clips from the trial by himself and it like comes in for break with his weird Lana Del Rey thing. But like here's the vibe. It's like he's had his friends on and they had a party. Yeah, like Barnes and him were talking about the case and they're having fun. He's coming in with like a free bird. Now he's looking at his empty bottles on the counter. Yes, it's the end of the night.

Oh, man, it's fucked up. He's got the bag. He's putting shit in there like I can't believe they left all this stuff on the floor. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's three a.m. four a.m. OK, he's still drunk gin drunk. Yeah. Yeah, he's gin drunk. He's just like all my friends have gone home up here alone. I I have to soothe myself by doing an amazing duet with my

sure, sure, sure. And then just complaining about my own victim hood by myself. If that was a commercial and Alex was like sitting on a bus with his head leaning against the window as the song played and just money power. Like that's that's what Zoloft like that's what you're looking for. It just it just had the vibe. I can't I can't stress this enough. It felt so much like a guy whose friends have left.

But he still is drunk and has to finish something. Yeah, you know, there's something that like there's a dead like he's hasn't. He has like 10 minutes he has left to do of his show. Sure. So he can't stop. Right, right, right. He could just play a special report, but he wants to complain about how he's getting jammed up. No, he's still got two shots left in the vodka bottle. And he's just sitting there. It's right in front of him and he's getting sadder to bed.

Oh, I can just go to bed at any time. I could drink these tomorrow night. Yeah, no big deal. But I mean, I'm just not going to let him sit there. It made me sad. They're so lonely. It made me sad. But then I realized that I don't really care. It's Alex.

I don't I don't have much, much. Fuck you. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I would say that the first couple days of the trial have been quite interesting. Two days of just the plaintiff's attorney questioning the Corporate Representative Brittany Paws. Yeah. So that like they ended with there's still probably, you know, tomorrow, Friday, probably still going to be some questioning of Paws. And then there's going to be cross examination or, you know, like Norm's

going to going to get to come in there and oh my God, ask some questions. That I don't I don't even what is even imagine what I yeah. I'm positive you like me. That's the only question I could think of. Am I cool? Yeah. How do you how do you feel about that check? I said, yeah, not big enough, is it?

Hey, do you want to come work for me? We offer a lot of fringe benefits, woke insurance. Oh, man, you're never going to stop. He did it. He started it. I know. So yeah, we'll be back on Monday with a check in on Alex's Thursday and Friday. For sure.

We're going to try and keep up with the things going on during the trial, right, which is unfortunate because the show sucks. But hey, it is what it is. Yeah, sometimes you get to hear him sadly singing along. Well, right, so we'll be back, Jordan. But until then, we have a website. We do. It's knowledge right.com.

Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight. A lot of people are missing your live tweeting. I don't think they are. They want you to fight. I don't think they do.

I want you to fight with Norm. No, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Wilfred Snibble. Snabble of the Gribble pebble. And now here comes the sex robots.

Andy and Chanzas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So, Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.