Knowledge Fight - #729: September 24, 2022

Episode Date: September 26, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at an emergency episode Alex put out on Saturday.  He had just fled from Connecticut, mid-trial, but what prompted that departure?  In this installment, this is rev...ealed, and Bobby Barnes shows up to try to be a real asshole.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge everybody. Welcome back to Nell Triton. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today buddy? My bright spot Jordan is I mentioned this to you the other night and that is that Hope Springs Eternal. Sure. And this. Is that the first time you've mentioned that to me the other night? No but it's context yes. Okay. I just saw recently that there's a new Sonic game coming out. That's right. Yes. A 3D Sonic game. Yes. Yes. And I was a big
Starting point is 00:01:34 fan when I was 1920 ish of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. Right. Played the hell out of that on a GameCube. Okay. Big fan. The rest of the games of that ilk. Absolute garbage. So bad. Really terrible. So bad. What do you do? You go forward. Yes. Sonic 3D games have had a very bad reputation and I don't think that Sonic Adventure 2 battles even look very kindly by history. Don't go back. I'm gonna. Okay. This new one when it comes out I'm gonna try it. Well there you go. I can't. I can't not. Hope Springs Eternal my friend. Hope does seem to spring eternal. You could be burned over and over again and come back to that blue hedgehog. I mean there is something to be said about a hedgehog that goes fast.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I don't know what to say about that. It doesn't really make sense but it is a part of my brain forever. There's something also I think just really evocative about that sound when you get a ring. Oh yeah. There is that. It takes you back. It's really satisfying. Yeah. Anyway my bright spot will soon be a blast. It will be a dark spot in a couple of weeks. So what about you? I have a bittersweet bright spot. You know over the weekend the labor cup happened named after Rod Lever. He was a tennis player. Okay. Oh I should have known. The cup is about tennis and yeah. Roger Federer and Rafa Nadal played a doubles match and it was the last match of Roger Federer's career. And it's just sort of like an exhibition kind of thing
Starting point is 00:03:05 just for fun. Yeah. For them it was. Yeah. For everybody else there there was like a tournament or whatever but for the two of them they're like what do we we're just here for fun. Yeah. This is just for show. Yeah. So they had a great time. They were then afterwards everyone cried uncontrollably. It was ridiculous to see like just grown men openly weeping in front of thousands of people. Pete Sampras was there waving. Andre Agassino. No he's not allowed back in. Oh. Britain doesn't want him. Oh no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He won just enough Wimbledon's. No but it was it was a really really amazing moment that you will never ever witness again. That's very sweet. Yeah. It was really really cool. Well I I
Starting point is 00:03:49 bore of tennis but I am very happy for you. That's everyone else who enjoyed that. That's a big that's a big time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's huge. So Jordan today we have an episode to go over. Interesting. We're going to be talking about a special report that Alex put out on Saturday. Oh September 24th 2022. Oh God. No. No. No this isn't a blackjack. No it's not. So at the end of last week Alex had a blow up in court and I did get a little bit of feedback that on our last episode where we talked to Elizabeth Williamson did not give a whole lot of context for what was going on in the courtroom when Alex was having his blow up. That is fair. Yeah. And one of the reasons for this was that I had some
Starting point is 00:04:33 clips that I had prepared but we had some recording difficulties. I wasn't able to use a recording software that would allow us to use clips. Of course. And so we had our interview and you know the familiarity that the three of us had with what it happened totally. I got into that headspace where it's a little inside baseball. Of course. And I apologize. We should have done a little bit better job of laying some of the groundwork. Yeah. Yeah it is a little bit weird when all three of us have missed maybe two to three minutes of this entire trial. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Like how are we gonna. Yeah. It's tough. It's an unfair expectation that people should come to the show. Haven't already known all
Starting point is 00:05:11 these. Of course. Yeah. And so I mean but when I reflect on it a little more it is almost as easy as saying Alex had a blow up. Really. It really is. There is not a ton more to it. There was the he was being questioned about his coverage of Robbie Parker and Chris Maddie asked him questions along the lines of you put a target on this guy's back. Did you not. And then Alex got really mad. Started saying about Liberals wanted to kill people in Iraq. There was that. Yeah. Oh you pick and choose who you care about. This is a trial about other stuff. Alex and meanwhile Norm Patis was yelling objection over and over again for anything and without the reason. It was like it was like a TV show where somebody
Starting point is 00:06:00 is pretending to be a lawyer and they just shout objection and the judge has to be like you have to have a reason and Norm was like I'm a real technical lawyer in the universe. He said objection more than Shakira. Yeah. She had a song. All right. I mean they had the jury leave the courtroom and the judge was confused by the fact that Norm was objecting to things that Alex was saying right as opposed to things that the other council was saying right. And over the course of the day it had happened repeatedly that Norm would make an objection. The judge would sustain it and Alex will have already answered the question and won't stop talking. Yeah there is an issue there. And so she constantly tried to explain
Starting point is 00:06:44 to him when your lawyer objects stop talking. Absolutely. Because you might not have to answer that question. It was and he did not seem to get that. It didn't register. No no it was it was like watching a T ball game where the kid hit the T three straight times and they're like well technically that's a strikeout but this is T ball. So I'm going to put it right back on that T one more time. All right Alex you can do this. You hit the ball part not the T but well well maybe next time. And then the other thing that was a constant source of tension and a problem was that Alex would be asked yes or no questions and then answer with what was starting to be a monologue. Yeah. And he had to be reminded
Starting point is 00:07:25 a number of times you could just answer yes or no. Well the truth if you answer yes or no makes him look real bad and the issue there is which I feel like we don't fully all understand in the courtroom. The reason that they look bad is because he's guilty and he has already been found guilty or liable or whatever the right terminology. Sure. Sure. Sure. But I mean when you answer those questions that you can't you can't answer it away. That's like maybe I'm going to get off on this one. No you did it. It's already been decided. Yeah. So that happened on Thursday and then on Friday Norm announced that Alex was not going to be cross examined. He was going to waive his right to cross examine because Alex was going to leave
Starting point is 00:08:09 town. He was going back to Austin. It was a surprise move. Yeah. And they reserve the right to call him again. And apparently early this week maybe Tuesday or Wednesday he's due to be back right to be questioned some more. Yeah. I believe if Mehdi doesn't call him Mehdi reserved the right to call him again under subpoena because that's what you would have to do at this point. But Norm has also said he's going to plan to call him to testify it on his own behalf and the main reason so he can actually monologue and not have to answer yes or no questions basically. Well I mean you know where the bread is buttered and why Norm is getting a paycheck is hey give me some time on that stand to run cover for me. It is like the first time I think ever anybody's
Starting point is 00:08:53 ever gotten air time out of Alex or Alex has gotten air time out of them. Yeah. It's on the stand not on cable but it'll do it'll do. So Alex came back to Austin and you know why why did he do it. We have to we have to see this Saturday show to find out. Boy I bet he's telling the exact same story that I would tell which is that he got spanked and then ran away with his tail between his legs. Nope that is not it. That's not his story. We'll learn a bit about what he has to say but first let's say hello to some new wonks. That's a great idea. So these two just had a marriage just got a marriage recently. So congratulations to Mr. and Mrs. McAwesome. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much and congratulations. Next I'll be dreamier
Starting point is 00:09:38 creamier tomorrow. Thank you so much you are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you next existential Greig. Thank you so much. You are now a policy. want. I'm a policy want thank you very much. Look out next. There's no infowar infillery. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. That's a magician's reference. Okay. I was what I was really worried it was something like no all good remember the thing I watched yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then we got a couple of technocrats here in the mix Jordan. So first I want to say hello and thank you to daddy's kissy boy. You are now a technocrat and it's Gary with a hard G and then there was a long explanation of how to pronounce this not like Jerry. It is
Starting point is 00:10:19 Gary. It's Gary. Yes. All right. With a heart G. It is. Okay. And you are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow actually. I'm just going to take a little break now. A little break for me. And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken out there. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
Starting point is 00:11:06 That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. Boy he's not. Oh he's not. This is not a good show. Oh that's not good. But I will say as I was preparing this and as I was getting ready for you to show up I really did feel like this. It feels like it's been a while since we've had an episode that was just clear has been but it's really only just been two episodes. We had interviews. Well you know for other people they put out one episode a week. So they're like well what did we do in our last two episodes. That was practically a month ago for us. Like what's our last two episodes. We did that yesterday.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah emotionally it feels like it's maybe been a month. It's been so long. Yeah. Yeah. But it is not. But we are back. All right. After a break of interviews. So Alex came back from Connecticut and there's a really big reason why and it is the headline of his emergency. Fire in his eyes. Well yeah. Oh mushroom cloud fire. I just got back last night from Connecticut in the show trial and I've been following the news globally of war escalating to incredibly dangerous levels in Ukraine. And I'm strongly considering not even going back to testify on my own behalf in our part of the trial the show trial because I'm that concerned I can get stuck there without my family with nuclear war breaks. That's why I took my wife and my younger daughter with me. The other
Starting point is 00:12:37 children are grown up or almost out of school. Two are out. One is still in high school. And they've got my parents and family here. I mean it's that serious. OK. And I've never acted like that. I've never behaved like that. He's he's frequently acted like that. But yeah apparently it's I don't want to be stuck in Connecticut when the nukes start flying. Hey I mean that's that's a that's an all time great excuse. That really that really is. That's not bad. If I was a teacher if I was like a first grade teacher and a student was like I'm not going to do that homework and I was like why. And they were like well assassination could happen at any moment to my father and I don't want to be stuck doing homework instead of taking a bullet for him. Aren't you the bad person
Starting point is 00:13:17 in this scenario. I would rather. I'd love to do this book report but Putin's out of hand. Lost it. Yeah. Also cool that his other kids can just be fine. Sure. Sure. They're cool. They're well they're older. They'll handle nukes on their own but the young ones they don't know about nukes. I don't mind being separate from separated from them in the case of a nuke. Yeah the teens listen you don't want to be trapped inside with them even during a nuke. Sorry. Anyway I feel a lack of sincerity. Yeah maybe a little bit. Yeah maybe nukes aren't the reason but that is the headline of the show like nuclear war coming right around the corner. Gotta stay at Austin. And the new world order is upon us. OK. And there was something that slipped through here that like even I almost
Starting point is 00:14:00 missed. I seriously may not even be able to go to Connecticut and defend myself because it doesn't matter. We're going into a global depression. The borders are collapsing. People are dying by the millions from the poison shots. We are inside the new world order ladies and gentlemen. We are absolutely inside the global takeover of the great reset. It's all here. It's all happened just like they said they would do and I've been warning for decades. People are dying by the millions from the shots. I was trying to get whether or not he so he's saying that that's happening currently. Yes we're losing millions of millions of people are dying because of the daily because of the covid vaccine. All right. How many millions of. OK. I feel like this is one
Starting point is 00:14:43 of those. This is one of those math problems where you're like OK. Sure. You say a million a day. That's a problem but it only takes like a week before it's 10 trillion people dead or whatever. You know what I'm saying. A population wise. It's one of those problems. It's a it's a no meal. Oh boy. Can't remember. I don't think that's right. Nope. That's the wrong one factorial you got it. That's probably not right. It doesn't sound right but I'm going to take it. Yeah. I think this is a little bit silly. But if you were to ask him about how he knows this you would say something about actuaries and then we would move on and there's sure there's data. So there's there's nukes coming. It's going to happen. I mean if millions of people are already
Starting point is 00:15:25 dying because of the vaccine nukes seem almost like weak tea at this point. Well I mean I guess it depends on how widespread it is whether or not nukes would kill millions. That's fair. Certainly there would be fallout and you know that that could have some pretty serious after effects. Well it's grew up air travel out of Connecticut. That's one thing we know for certain. I find that difficult to understand. I agree. Even if there was a nuke I think people would still be flying out of Connecticut. Or you could rent a car. That's it. Nobody's driving from Connecticut to Texas. So the nukes they're coming but there's one way that we can stop this thing. Okay. And the way you trigger the public to peacefully protest and to flood the streets with candlelight vigils and
Starting point is 00:16:12 transcend party is by taking this live show feed right now and sharing it on mainstream platforms like Twitter and Instagram and Facebook and on getter and independent groups like Gab and everywhere else because you are the info warriors and without you ladies and gentlemen we are not going to be able to stop this. We have a good chance of stopping this but even mainline analysts predict a 50% chance of a tactical nuclear war in the next few months in Europe. That will cause a global depression. Incredible problems. It'll be nightmare beyond imagination and mainline analysts and I agree with them give it about a 20% chance of a full on nuclear war. So I have a lot of trouble focusing on all the side issues.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Well this is going on. Yeah man. So if you want to stop nuclear war you need to spread Alex's content all over the place free advertising for him which will initiate a series of bipartisan candlelight vigils that will convince Putin not to nuke anybody. That's a good idea. Yeah. That is a good idea. I mean if you're Alex and you just want people to spread your shit around. It is a great idea. I have a question dad. Does he and I'm going to throw this out because I think based on what he's telling me because nuclear war is so imminent and almost frankly unavoidable. I mean it's a coin flip whether or not we have a new a tactical nuclear war which I would argue if you start with a tactical one you're going to get a full one
Starting point is 00:17:46 pretty quick. Yeah. One one leads to the other. Yeah. Yeah. Is he still selling stuff though. Oh yeah. But that's it feels like that's not important. You know like if the court isn't important if those tertiary things to right nukes are not important. I feel like money is less important now than it's ever been. Oh you bet. It's not though. Oh weird. Alex spends this. This is a three hour long special report that you did. Yeah. I would say 45 to 50 minutes are straight ads. It is so much. I was going to say how many you've cut out all of the not ads. So we're going to listen to about 15 minutes of his show. Can you me to live. Can you have a boy. Oh boy. I mean I have kept in some of the ads just for flavor but like fun things. Yeah. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Oh so you got to take this seriously though. Obvious 50 50 chance. I mean that's a trouble. Yeah. That's very serious. You got to hug your kids. Yeah. People better take this more serious than anything they've ever taken in their lives. It's that real. You better kiss your children. Better hug them. You better hug your mom your dad your brother your sister your mom. You better get right with God. And I'm telling myself that when I point my finger at you three more pointing back at me. But we're coming under judgment ladies and gentlemen. Now before I hit all the serious documented news for a couple of weeks I've been sent countless texts and seen countless videos talking about the 24th of September 2022 and how all these historic
Starting point is 00:19:20 things historically have happened on this date. And I was into the Jewish calendar and mysticism and the rest of it. I'm not putting any stock in that. Clearly. But every time the world's on the verge of a cataclysm the general public will pick a date and decide it's that date that's causing it. It's not that date that's causing it. It's the place and point in time we're in right now. But regardless it's something that it gets the public's attention to be concerned. That's wonderful. Hey cool. So yeah this September 24th stuff was like weird Q and on. Sure. Sure. Sure. Those going around actually. But how dare you Alex. He talks about like the globalist's choosing to do things on certain days because of the numbers and their arcane. Do you not remember
Starting point is 00:20:00 when Mars was closer than it had been in 60,000 years that he was like yeah they totally choose that day. What are you talking about. Yes. Yeah. It's not the day. It's so interesting when it's convenient for him to be into arcane esoteric bullshit. Yeah. And when it's convenient for him to just sort of look down on it. I mean if he looked me in the eyes and said Jordan correlation does not equal causation. I think I'd throw hands instantly like I wouldn't be able to stop myself. What if he said Jordan factorial. I'd be like I was looking for that word earlier. Thank you. I think I was looking. I am grateful. So Alex you know of course he looked like he didn't care at his trial because nuclear war was on the mind and that's why he was looked like a
Starting point is 00:20:43 aloof dick. I get that. But there's other things that are happening. Okay. Allegiances are shifting. All right. Loyalties are being tested. Okay. Ted Cruz killed the queen supported big tech merging with big media and having total immunity. It's a horrible person right here at the end of the line folks. He supports World War three by the way in Ukraine. He really now unclokes and shows you the horrible person he always was. I tried to hope that he was an opportunist and went against Trump and all that because he just wanted power. But I hope that you know in the end he care about his family but he doesn't care. He is a Goldman Sachs operative who is as bad as they get. You went against Trump. What are you doing. I mean Ted Cruz is bad now. I'm just writing
Starting point is 00:21:32 down Ted Cruz equals bad nine twenty two. Yeah. So we'll see when like when Ted Cruz is good again I will write down the date there. We'll see how long it is before Ted Cruz is fine again. Probably a week. Yeah. Ted Cruz is actually a secret patriot but he was a double secret Goldman Sachs double patriot. Once he does something extreme that Alex enjoys. I got me back. He closed the borders for real this time or whatever. Yeah. He's done it. Alex went so far is to say that Beto is better than Ted Cruz because at least Beto will tell you what he's about. All right. Well I guess Alex is going to be fundraising for Beto. That's such a baby. Yeah. What a baby boof. So Alex has been dealing with some bankruptcy situations naturally last
Starting point is 00:22:15 week the the judge Judge Lopez bankruptcy case removed his lawyers and his reorganization officer right because of conflicts of interest and a lack of transparency that was very clear on Alex's part yeah and excessive spending that was suspicious sure that you wouldn't expect somebody whose business was going in through a bankruptcy no spend eighty thousand dollars on security for a trip to Connecticut that you cut short yeah nuclear war yeah but I mean nuclear war fair enough eighty thousand dollars to save your life from a nuke with eight other guys it's really a steal when it is it is yeah so anyway Alex has some spin for this bankruptcy okay so I wanted a bankruptcy to prove in these courts I don't have all this extra money to go under that scrutiny
Starting point is 00:23:10 and a lot of people see that they go oh you're closing your doors no chapter five is emergency reorganization where you show you're having trouble paying your bills but then you go into reorganization where it sets the benchmark for how much money you actually have so we can stay on air continue to operate and also show to the state courts everybody else when they claim I have 400 million dollars like they falsely did the Texas show trial four weeks ago we can show certified all the stuff that it's just a lie and then that allows info wars free speech systems to stay on air and continue to operate because they have federal laws where you're not supposed to just be able to sue somebody and shut them down so we're very transparent about that it's it's
Starting point is 00:23:54 why we're doing it and I'll just address this now here I've never been in bankruptcy we've never even taken loans here and except for my dad I looked at the big situation that was going on the fact that we were on the verge of insolvency and all their lies and I said let's just put all the cards at the table and go into bankruptcy and then most lawyers don't want to work with us most people don't want to work with us but I got some good lawyer but then the way the courts work is you have other separate lawyers that don't work for you that handle the actual bankruptcy part and those lawyers the judge ruled last week judge Lopez in Texas had not been transparent about everything they'd done in the past not not bad things but the fact
Starting point is 00:24:38 that they'd publicly done our last bankruptcy the democrats came back so we got info wars the website back and info wars health that's a successful company and some other things it was a very real bankruptcy that was tied to free speech systems to like quote pay debtors but they kicked that boat because they wanted their show trials they didn't want that bankruptcy to hold up all these show trials did you not actually owe them money and so the lawyers not even the lawyers the cro that they appointed did not disclose even though it was public and all over the news so why disclose that that they've done the previous bankruptcy just months before love I guess if you've been in one bankruptcy and now there's another you don't fill out a form or something
Starting point is 00:25:17 it's an issue so the judge removed the cro and those two separate quote independent lawyers who are all by the way the lawyers are democrats I'm not saying they did anything I'm just saying okay your own lawyer in texas was a former high power democratic eric holder appointed eric holder appointed right and he was in the courtroom in Connecticut you can see him there but um this is not really fair it's not gonna quite accurate though one of the concerns was that these people who were the had worked on this other bankruptcy had also sought employment at info wars and there was a concern that they would uh have a conflict if there was something that was inconvenient to alex right and so they were not uh impartial in a way that could be trusted by the bankruptcy
Starting point is 00:26:08 okay so you're saying that if you hired a lawyer who is very interested in getting a job for you right and that lawyer did a good job then that lawyer would get that job right so maybe that lawyer would have an incentive to do a quote good job well as opposed to a accurate one these concerns could be there and then I believe also uh you know somebody who so need to have somebody who's wholly independent because absolutely part of what you're looking at is like a web of family businesses that are like and you know if you're somebody who has any reason to have deference towards alex right you're going to probably run into some brick walls you're going to run into brick walls that you didn't even know you needed to ask about you know it's that kind of thing where even
Starting point is 00:26:59 if you are doing a good job alex will say something and if you believe any word he says he's gonna get away with one thing you know like it doesn't matter if he gets away with all of it but you just don't have the capacity to get every single thing unless you are completely I suppose opposed to his continued existence or just uh completely neutral to it sure like if you are just doing your job well right by the book no attachment yeah that's fine and it's it is it is so infuriating when he complains like oh they claimed I have 400 million dollars no the guy made an estimate based upon what he could glean from the amount of lie finances that you gave to him in the first place if you had given him your actual finances wasn't it he wouldn't have estimated shit wasn't it also along
Starting point is 00:27:49 the lines of like this is an estimate of what a business oh good business yeah yeah run well would yeah well run business yes so speaking of a badly run business uh alex's book uh deal apparently wasn't so good she'll get the great reset worth of the world signed that's a donation as well that's why it's 99 dollars or get the regular book for 20 something bucks number one book in the world right now and again blisters also have sent us emails well if you got the number one book in the world shouldn't that fund your operation I haven't paid I said 80,000 this house being paid it was 76,000 dollars came in two weeks ago that's great honestly put the whole thing into free speech systems that's my money but I'm so running out of money I'm gonna keep 20,000 and put the other uh into the
Starting point is 00:28:37 company to keep the crew should you be telling us this and yeah they say at current sales rates a couple weeks ago another 80,000 90,000 dollars but that's how books work it's not the number one book in the world also it's uh number 18 on amazon now we've gone through this sliding been sliding a little no but I like to check in every now and again of course the january 6 report number 15 okay so that's out performing alex on amazon they sell the january 6 report apparently yeah the committee's report that doesn't sound fair uh steve ducey and his wife their cookbook sliding down to number 10 oh man I'm really bummed out for them also still beating alex the very hungry caterpillar yeah but that should be there forever the bear the barefoot kentessa's
Starting point is 00:29:19 cookbook is at number 16 beating alex wow who is the barefoot kentessa is it all of us or is it like the friends we met along the way in a garden oh okay that's uh all right also calleen hoover killing it so many so much book sales god damn people like that why a uh the romantic they really do fantasy i think it's fantasy i'm not sure easy for that shit anyway alex you should have negotiated a better deal on these books and also where are we at if you need to keep 20,000 of that for yourself as opposed to putting it into the business what are you putting that 20,000 into right it makes no sense based on the way he lives what is happening well i wanted to get a car yeah okay fine then you get okay then don't tell us you're keeping 20,000 for okay yeah so um alex
Starting point is 00:30:10 has uh some clips from the trial that he wants to play because this is about nuclear war and i want to now air before i hit more news and bring robert barnes on and hit the southern news oh god barnes some of these little excerpts of that the crew put together uh one of them is where they attacked me over cryptocurrency like i'm a criminal show the crew put a little promo together from that uh and then we're going to go ahead and air before i left yesterday kinetic it went to a apple orchard with my wife and daughter my five-year-old and that's aj what talks about the ultimate revolution god's green earth which is the counter to the tree of death whoa what apple orchards my man what did you just tell me what are you what are you confused by
Starting point is 00:30:55 are you telling me that he's going to play a clip of him in the courtroom uh a a compilation put together by his his team and he's also going to play a clip of him and his wife and his daughter walking through an orchard together because that's god's ultimate green earth revolution i mean it's just really kind of a nice saturday i suppose so i'm i'm fine with you having a nice saturday yeah just don't play it more wholesome than him peeing on the georgia guide stone there is that there is that you're right this is a family show so the there's no problem with alex's getting crypto or anything like that and it wasn't in the case uh it wasn't that wasn't the problem the issue that was trying to be elucidated by chris maddy yeah was the issue of alex do people know that when
Starting point is 00:31:42 they give you crypto it goes to your personal account right as opposed to because that could be seen as maybe deceptive wow fund the info war donate to this and then it goes straight to his wallet right i know that that might be manipulative business practice and as he said in the trial right he said well and i understand what you're saying but it all just it goes through my personal account to the business now i would argue that perhaps for a good piece of evidence as to why maybe we should be suspicious about that he said i'm going to take twenty thousand dollars right now of my book money that i said i was going to put all into the business so there might be a reason to be suspicious about well there's definitely no trail uh that you know we are aware of that
Starting point is 00:32:28 that money did go to the business and i mean i guess you if you want to put it like really super abstractly like it going to his legal fees or something like that it's still him business expense question mark yeah quote unquote anyway barns is going to be on great but he's going to don't worry he's on to talk about russia and the nuclear war okay good i'm sure that he's not going to have anything to say about the case okay good robert barns joins us robert will also obviously get into russia the huge escalation there that is the big central story that they're national drafting announced putin saying i'm not bluffing threatening nuclear war that's coming up this hour as well but i think it's important front and center to talk about this show trial and
Starting point is 00:33:08 your observations oh of course where you see this going because i don't want to be over positive they got a bunch of crying parents we're wow forward evidence but a lot of former judges and current judges and a lot of people call my lawyers and said wow this blew up in their face this is not going well yeah that uh that's a vibe you know that's that's not something you like to hear yeah it is it is fun hey look i don't want to get too optimistic because i got crying parents fuck it is it is fun to like listen to metty and court just be like you're using this trial as a fundraiser as we speak yeah yeah well and there is an irony because he did say when alex was talking about the crypto thing is like you're gonna use that in an ad like her and then he did yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:33:52 and i there is a part of me that wonders if he would have used it in an ad if uh he hadn't have said that like maybe that's trolling and if so fair play you know i guess it's low it's a little shady but do do what you gotta do what's more concerning is if he didn't have the idea at all uh and then met he gave it to him he's like that's a good idea that's a pretty smart you know like that's that's a concern how how could i possibly have left money on the table yeah exactly exactly i can't leave money yeesh what a monster yeah so barns sucks too yeah of course alex and barns boy this is a bad display of people just a bunch of psychos sitting there being weird as shit yep just lying for me let's be clear to see interject here they showed a
Starting point is 00:34:37 magazine we put out with obama on the cover saying obama comes for your guns let them talk about how i didn't like obama in case jurors or democrats and when my lawyer tried to come back and cross-examine the judge said no politics i mean oh it's very much scripted and there's the point of this whole trial is to present a trial where only one side is allowed to present their case and it's the part of the case that's not considered relevant for this stage of the trial and that's that's exactly what's taking place and uh fortunately you were able to successfully resist their effort for you to play to their script for you to stick to their tail was you to play the villain in their role boy i don't think the truth of the matter it's why they could never
Starting point is 00:35:20 afford a trial on the merit that's why they could never give you your day in court as we've seen presented i mean the lead witness was an fbi guy who knew nobody who died that day why is he suing what is he why is he here he's still in the fbi fbi lawyer an fbi lawyer suing alex jones and he admitted that i never said his name and he never heard of me until the suit he did not admit that alex never said his name he says he didn't know he doesn't know if he did and alex can't say that he didn't know no because there are so many videos that they did not produce you got it so legally alex can't make that claim nope and um this is pretty shitty on barns's part to try and present this person bill aldenberg as just an fbi lawyer who has no connection to the case yeah as if he
Starting point is 00:36:09 wasn't somebody who responded to the school as if he wasn't somebody who was the subject of conspiracy theories surrounding people being actors that ended up conflating him with mr wheeler another grieving parent as if he doesn't have ptsd from just walking on that scene right you know like just being there no he's just an fbi lawyer no just an fbi lawyer i i know it seems like there rules and shit but if barns is allowed to say this stuff in public and still be a lawyer i feel like there aren't that you know i don't but i don't think he really is even much of a lawyer oh that's a good point i mean i think he does stuff for attention that's a good point quite frankly that is a good point i'm sure he would be disbarred if anybody had reason to or i mean like
Starting point is 00:36:56 yeah i i think that a lot of the stuff he does doesn't end up getting into a court that's that's kind of yeah yeah it's a lot of bullshit and a lot of like stuff that you can go on alex's show and talk about right right right right right we're gonna finally sue the vaccine people right right right great i got you enjoy yeah yeah so uh barns just has a completely distorted uh warped view of what happened in that courtroom yeah i was waiting to hear from any of the plaintiffs how they uh that their injury was caused by something you said or did and instead what i heard were stories that didn't mostly relate to you at all so i mean he could he's just pretending that the whole thing about matt mills the guy who interrupted the super bowl press conference didn't happen in
Starting point is 00:37:39 the courtroom yeah um because that would satisfy this curiosity right there he has yep example number one i mean this is just selectively removing these things from the conversation about the the trial because they're inconvenient yeah you want there to be nothing you want there to be no connection and you need it to there to be no connection for your argument to make any sense so there wasn't anything right yeah the fact that there was it shouldn't get in the way of whether or not what you need it to be don't let the truth ruin a good time exactly it's a good time yeah anyways buy our shit um so alex believes that he has scared the plaintiff's attorneys well i mean emotionally maybe but he thinks that they are like so worried about the the case now he's blown it wide open boy yeah
Starting point is 00:38:27 wow i can't get into attorney client stuff obviously robert but they were calling our lawyers back there yesterday morning they were in full panic they were on the ropes and they basically didn't even want me to testify yesterday and didn't know what to do and we said yeah we'll just come back we're able to quote present our case even though we're handcuffed and then straightjacketed and restricted next week why even have you know norm to a cross examination on the limited stuff matty said because matty crapped the bed in norm patiss's words but they were in complete panic even the media agreed they blew up in their face so yeah uh matty is is real worried real scared of of alex's righteous triumphant outburst oh man this is coward shit this is coward shit i i wouldn't i wouldn't
Starting point is 00:39:16 engage in this this is bad you think so this is real bad i mean it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't come off weak oh man i i mean i don't wanna you know like when i when i played baseball you know i i i didn't get a strike out and then i was like see the problem was the ball was afraid to hit my bat that was the main issue right it was that it wasn't that the pitcher was good is that that ball was like i'm terrified well and also i want to i want you to write down really quick here uh that he said norm said that uh chris matty shit the bed yes write that down because that'll be important later will do so uh barn's just you know he thinks that uh these people aren't ready to deal with truth people it doesn't sound true like like uh norm and
Starting point is 00:40:00 alex now where do you see all this going well i mean i think their their script is not going to plan because their script is false and that's their problem and so they're trying to dot and because norm patis has refused to go along with their effort to script this trial and uh and you refuse to go along with efforts to limit your ability to defend yourself adequately as you're constitutionally entitled to within the rules they're not having success and you're seeing their emotional frustration be publicly expressed i mean to be honest with you from a pure legal perspective law lawyer perspective this has been very incompetent representation i mean these parents have had ineffective representation i understand that this is a very politically powerful connected
Starting point is 00:40:43 law firm in connecticut but i heard from many people who are on the plaintiff's side in this case who thought that the plaintiff's lawyer was terrible and it's because he's more politically motivated to prosecute this case it appears to me then he is actually getting to truth or justice because actual justice would rule against him and actual truth is in fact against him and that's why he can't that's why he's stuck in the situation trying to do a soviet style stasi style cuban uh fidel castro style show trial but can't achieve it because the truth is still leaking out anyway chris maddie is bad counsel says king of bad counsel robert barn says guy about to be sued for incompetence if we take anything that the info wars corporate representative
Starting point is 00:41:29 testified to under oaths seriously then yes they're considering suing uh you robert robert barns media star bobby barns for malpractice i mean it is it is ridiculous to say that they're doing a bad job because barns believes that the job itself is is like impossible to do because it's fake right so you can't do a bad job unless there is a real thing that you could do a good job for right like if barns had advice them here's what you should have done you should have called this person or you should have crossed into examine this way this advice is you should have been angrier his advice is you should have not brought the suit well yeah so like shut the fuck up but he also was the lawyer who filed alex's suit against the young turks so it's a little bit pot
Starting point is 00:42:21 and kettle seems that way so here was where things got real messy i think that barns has a conspiracy about sandy hook that is not good that's not good the question was i mean they can't even understand what the right stock fire is they can't even understand what a false flag is a false flag originated from pirates putting up a false flag to trick the the boat they were about to hijack and and loot uh the that doesn't mean the looting didn't happen or the hijacking didn't happen a false flag is an event that did in fact happen but the cause and the culprit are inaccurately identified and that is precisely is what's been taking place and what were the issues concerning sandy hook which is it turns out the politicians pocketed the money rather than put
Starting point is 00:43:05 school safety first and if they had done so if they've done something as simple as allow teachers to lock the inside of the doors of the bathrooms inside their classrooms be able to lock the inside of the doors into their classrooms be able to have other means of self-defense available such as trained people with guns in the teachers and school safety personnel then the reality is a lot of those kids are alive today but the the politicians couldn't let that message get out and the reality is the democratic party he didn't like the fact that you put up a poll at info wars that asked what might be a future false flag but that's because what's the political reality right now the political reality right now is the more school shootings happen the more
Starting point is 00:43:45 plaintiff's lawyers like his firm profit the more school shootings happen the more the democratic party with their good and control agenda profit they don't have an incentive to maximize school safety and that's why they're that's why they covered up what happened at sandy hook and the school safety inadequacy that took place there wow all right so barns is getting added to the suit it's it he just questioned sandy hook well this isn't even as bad as he gets on this episode wow um because he should be added to the suit he's now part of info wars dancing around some interesting dicey territory he said that the government covered it up yeah and the democratic politicians were um embezzling and pocketing money that was meant for school safety and that's why
Starting point is 00:44:32 the shooting happened and they're covering that up yep by uh sort of making an example of alex or something yeah this is messed up he just did the thing that you get sued for in the thing that in the place where they're getting sued for it it's uh it's strange it's a strange tactic i mean if i were him i would i mean i would say that many might have said to me that he is not doing a good job as counsel uh well he's not counsel so that's cool i mean he just uses his fucking law degree as a prop yeah basically yeah he just goes and talks shit on extreme right wing shows and his own podcast that sounds about right um but yeah the other thing too is um that poll that was brought up is actually an important point um so there was a poll on uh info wars on the home page
Starting point is 00:45:20 that was what will the next false flag be bombing mass shooting or whatever right and part of this the point of it was to illustrate how alex is conditioning in advance for the audience to believe things that happen to be fake before they happen anything yeah if you're predicting something is going to be a false flag when something happens you're going to think it's a false flag right this is something that we've discussed uh quite a bit in terms of alex's behavior yeah the way he acts the way he uh just gets these these narratives in place in advance but the the poll itself was a really helpful visual explanation of that and of course yeah uh barns doesn't doesn't like that because it looks bad it looks real bad yeah so look barns just he's going for it he's swinging
Starting point is 00:46:11 something all right because they wanted to blame the gun rather than let the world know big pharma has culpability here because the way in which young men are being medicated on some of these drugs is often backfiring and has and has side effects they often don't fully know about or meaningfully remediate they don't want to talk about inadequacies of school safety because that didn't pay to the democratic politicians and political class in connecticut and they don't want to talk about culture that glamorizes violence because it's a culture they profit from and they don't want to talk about media glamorizing these individuals that commit these horrible crimes because big media profits a lot of the pockets the cash the most from anybody and that's why
Starting point is 00:46:50 they had to blame the gun and blame alex jones they couldn't blame the shooter they couldn't blame mental health they couldn't blame school safety they couldn't blame big pharma and they needed to continue to happen because it's the only way they'll continue to politically profit off of these school shootings and that's what's disturbing that's what's maybe most unsettling is a case it's about preventing the harm from school shootings and the consequences to vulnerable parents is being used to cover up the true culpable parties for this school shooting and to falsely blame those who are trying to defend constitutional rights and liberties in america so this is just bullshit i mean even if you take everything as true that he's saying which i would
Starting point is 00:47:32 say you shouldn't yeah but even if you do the trial that's going on isn't about school safety it's not about any of this stuff it's about the harm that alex caused to these people right by way of his lies about them uh the denial of their children's existence um yeah so i i don't know i mean it's it's interesting to throw a bunch of mud at the wall and see see what kind of designs you can make out of it right this is disgraceful stuff i mean i i just sometimes you like with this clip especially i feel like you should play that in front of the jury as just it doesn't get more obvious that there's no other way to stop them than to stop them because the lawyer who started on this case yeah comes back years later during the case after he was kicked off of it
Starting point is 00:48:27 to do the thing the case is about yeah more or less and uh i mean he's been monetizing coverage of this case he has on his own viva fry viva barns fry podcast or whatever the fuck so he has every reason to have seen all of these things that he's pretending didn't happen like the uh the super bowl uh press conference guy yeah he's pretending that bill aldenberg is just an FBI lawyer he knows that that's not the case right he's watched the trial and made money off the analysis of it right this is malicious lying absolutely there's no other way around it no he's just intentionally lying to appease alex and create like some kind of a weird reality where he's aggrieved yeah i don't know yeah i mean this is just this is just textbook like here's punitive
Starting point is 00:49:15 damages the only punishment that will affect like like when you say punitive damages the point of punitive damages is to punish the behavior to get the behavior to stop not to like find the behavior like hey okay if you kick that dude in the shins you owe us five bucks but you can kick him in the shins as long as you've got five bucks you know right like the idea is you have to stop this and it's happening on the show after a trial already did the thing oh it gets worse oh my god sanny hook didn't make money for info wars sanny hook cost money for info wars he knows that so he's got to try to hide and lie in grandstand but though because he's uh dealing from a deck of deceit he cannot come across as a credible authentic truthful voice in the courtroom
Starting point is 00:50:03 and that's why he continued to look bad is because he was unable to trap you he was unable to provoke you he's talking about maddie unable to provoke him a little you want to go with unable to provoke him on that one part a little into the the caricatured response they imagine you are and he was unable to get away with uh constant lies and the manner and method in which he made his presentation manner and as he couldn't get away with it in his grandstand vision of this political theater where he's the hero at the end of the documentary in the film he lost it and that's and that's why people watching are like hold on a second i thought this was about parents i thought this was about emotional injury i thought this was about undisputed uh uh dishonesty i'm not
Starting point is 00:50:47 seeing any of that i'm seeing politics politics politics theater theater theater because that's in fact what the plaintiffs council has always been about they have used these parents for the gain of the political class with which they are aligned and the political causes which which they are assigned that's the reality of it that might be defamatory that is defamatory don't write the plaintiffs might uh be i think it should be added to the to the case i mean i don't know what else to say other than if you say the parents are being used by powerful interests then you are part of the sandy hook denial well but what like how if you are the plaintiff how do you respond to that because if you say no i'm not being used but when you are you just don't know
Starting point is 00:51:35 that you're being used you the best way to use somebody's if they don't know they're being used yeah right if you have a sincere belief in the case that you are uh a part of then this is a denial of your trauma this is a denial of your experience absolutely it's uh at very least if not legally actionable so shitty it's unbelievably shitty here's here's what he is saying he is saying that ultimately what they went through was meaningless and it has nothing nothing to do with anything and no one cares yeah um so yeah barns barn sucks yep anyway uh he also thinks that info wars tried to stop sandy hook conspiracies this is a this is a sell me on this one is a fun one give me this pitch info wars didn't stalk anybody info wars didn't send people to stalk
Starting point is 00:52:30 anybody release the crack didn't even talk about almost everybody suing ever uh info wars mostly did not was a critic as paul joseph Watson the editor during this entire time frame was a critic of the sandy hook denier movement uh info wars was a restraint on the sandy hook denier movement the info wars made no money off of the sandy hook denier movement we had debates we had on-air debates on who was right absolutely indeed people were mad at you calling you boat bridges saying that you were fake because you were critical of the sandy hook denier movement for so long and so often and so many other people were at info war and the reality is the reason why that the people went to conspiracy theories in the denier movement was because the politicians
Starting point is 00:53:15 in connecticut were covering up their complicity and culpability in the inadequacy of school safety that's why they're destroying the school that's why they're hiding information from the sunshine laws that's why they're not producing information pursuant to freedom of information act or open records act request that triggered a lot of people's conspiracy theories they end up being wrong in their conclusion but there was in fact cover-up taking place by the political class in connecticut and the only case the connecticut courts didn't allow to go forward was the one that exposed the schools for inadequate school safety they allowed 73 million dollars shakedown of a gun manufacturers insurers and now they're allowing another uh effort to now and by the way the judge
Starting point is 00:53:54 bars me from letting them know about that yeah i can't can't uh let people know about that i guess yeah so there up there is apparently a cover-up yeah that barns this is not something that is long standing as a defense of alex it does seem to have just happened i've uh i've not been aware of this this line maybe i missed a couple episodes where this was go i tune out when barns is on sometime right right that might explain it but this this seems pretty fucking over the top right it seems uh off the beaten path a little bit there's that and uh just disgraceful well i mean it might as well be a uh a full court buzzer beater is what he's going for he's he's trying to throw it all the way down well this is not good and there's a couple of things in in that explanation that he
Starting point is 00:54:45 was offering that i think are fair points one is that paul was fairly critical of this right but you don't get to use that he was not listened to he was critical of you yes and you didn't listen to him he was not critical of other people right he said specifically you guys yes alex you need to stop this alex he used your name if alex is going to complain about other people not use it so there's that and then the second thing is that um you know barns does bring up something that did happen and that was that some people were mad that alex wasn't extreme enough on this conspiracy and then guess what he got more extreme yeah yeah because his audience demanded it yeah and so actually i think that this argument works very solidly against alex uh but i guess it you know well
Starting point is 00:55:33 the somehow feels better for him the thing about it is that if you ever get to reality in any of these theories you're gonna find it works against alex on account of reality that is true every part of reality that you inject into their conspiracies you're like well that sounds bad for alex that's the real world it's a reality is stationary in some ways yeah um so we we on friday uh had an interview with elizabeth williamson yes um i did not expect this but she factors heavily into this episode of course yeah great alex is mad about a tweet uh that she put oh god let me do this this is the final point i want to head on this we're gonna play a little clip and come back from breaking get into all the other huge news it's not it's not the final point you're gonna shine here
Starting point is 00:56:17 i want your view on russia and the economy and matt gates and and then the midterms of 45 days and so much more but take elizabeth williamson this woman is a sandy hook groupie this woman writes her book tries to make money on sandy hook uses me of it she goes around for years and says stuff that's not true or twisted about me constantly we never really follow her but sure yesterday i'm about to leave the uh airbnb i met because we decided not to do the cross examination and just do my own case next week and you ran away one of my security guys walks over and says look here's the new york times it's all over the news saying your lawyer just attacked you in court and said you're a horrible person everything you say is fake you did a terrible
Starting point is 00:57:02 you're a terrible job and so that's why you're not testifying today so i call norm he comes back in 10 minutes at a break he goes he starts literally freaking out he said we didn't even talk about you in the court case i mean it was behind the it was you know it was in chambers and you know they want to cancel this they're they're they're on the ropes i didn't say that i think you did a great job everybody's calling me said you did a great job he goes you're joking and i center the text and he literally said he lost control he's screaming at her when he saw her in the hallway and so she says i'm sorry i'm sorry i i shouldn't have done it so i'm thinking norm i want to trust you but it's hard to believe she'd lie that bad he goes i'm telling you
Starting point is 00:57:40 she's gonna retract it's a lie she then said i'm sorry i made it up in a tweet so suffice it to say a lot of this is nonsense but here's what happened yeah she put out a tweet that was essentially saying that alex could have testified today if you wanted to but his lawyer said in court that he looked so bad in front of the jury he needs some time away from them right right that's what the tweet was now the issue was that this is a poor paraphrasing right and she he didn't say that norm didn't say that what he had said was that he wasn't gonna have alex testify because they needed to lower the temperature right and so this is the the miscommunication bad paraphrasing that uh liz engaged in and she put a tweet out saying hey he didn't say this right so out of
Starting point is 00:58:30 courtesy i talked to him and i'm gonna delete this tweet share you know a fair correction and i think you know i think your your mileage can vary as they say but i think that's a fair paraphrasing yeah absolutely no that's what he that's what okay all right maybe that's not how norm would experience it and i don't know exactly what else you would have meant by we got to lower the temperature i mean yeah um it's like okay i and i understand why she retracted it and i understand why she felt that she used the language he said exactly i think is right you know that's the poor paraphrasing right i recognize that on the other hand words have to mean things and the words that norm said mean the words that elizabeth said so if you don't want words to mean things then don't have words
Starting point is 00:59:19 that but there is enough wiggle room for interpretation i think that when you say he said it gets it gets a little bit messy right but i like i'm saying i still think it's it's an all right paraphrasing but technically uh you can make an argument for it is inaccurate i think that's my main problem with it i think my main problem with it is that if you accept that hit what he said has wiggle room then you are missing that what he said was what elizabeth said if you're going to tell me that there's wiggle room with what he said i don't believe that there isn't a world where norm could believe that he sincerely is saying i don't want alex to testify to lower the temperature because he's worried that maddie is too hot or something like that yeah
Starting point is 01:00:03 i could see that perception being in his head when he says that right i don't believe that that reflects reality right but i can see alex or norm having that be their reality right so to them it is a misrepresentation right but them having a reality is the problem that we're adjusting it in the first place i guess so us indulging them in their reality which is clearly not true is the problem well i i don't really know what else you do that's a good point you know we are we are now stuck in in where we get stuck in usually pretend to crush the globalist we can't crush their false reality right we have to why not i think we need to i don't i don't how would you i don't know a false reality crusher anyway we can we can make them up in false reality world
Starting point is 01:00:56 exactly so liz needed to make up this lie because alex did too well in court norm's doing victory laps everybody's calling him saying chris maddie crap the bed judges are calling him everybody's flipping out it's incredible everybody agrees to blow up their face he gets up there and says well everybody you know we have such a big victory we're not going to do this she she goes i'm not going to let that happen so she goes in lies even though this is on television none of it was said not even close and then deletes the tweet and says this folks i'm going to delete this tweet after talking with at paddice norm john's lawyer who raised it in the courtroom he wouldn't have said it's a lie the judge will let him say it though not with me i asked him after what's wrong
Starting point is 01:01:42 he makes the accurate point that he did not say this as i wrote here i apologize for the error it's not an error you're a lying witch that flew in there on a broom i mean i mean nor she didn't tell us besides i said norm stop freaking out when i told him he said he said i called her in the break and he goes you're joking she didn't say that he said we didn't even talk about you in the hearing we went back and then decided to recess for the day because they were in shambles he goes he goes you're you're joking right you he didn't believe me she literally pulled it out of her butt so yeah the alex did so well they needed to spin somehow so liz came up with this fake tweet right right and also a bunch of other people were calling norm and saying that maddie cracked the
Starting point is 01:02:31 bed sure so maybe alex is misquoting somebody maybe he said that norm said that did norm actually say that because if not alex is doing the exact same thing we need to i mean i want him to retract this i bet he will i bet he will i'm sure it's just a dumb childish game yeah um but i you know you gotta get where you you gotta you gotta do what you can you know i mean you only have a few opportunities where people have like it's a sincere mistake sure uh you know it's not a huge mistake right um and something that she apologized for and clarified and because of that alex can now pounce an attack exactly she's because he doesn't want to touch any of these other things well and because she's trapped by having a real job and not being able to say fuck you you said
Starting point is 01:03:18 that shut up you know like that's because that's what i would have done well um you're not like norm that exactly because norm is thinking about suing do it it's not a coincidence that elizabeth williamson grifting off of sandy hook personally profiting off the pain of sandy hook would lie and libel about you and a libel libel because it once again reaffirms you love that the truth came out even with a biased jury pool that the truth came out they would not get the verdict they want because they've been pitching a fake narrative about so let's raise this i mean i think i think norm is really thinking about legal action against her this is serious folks because this is premeditated pure whole cloth fraud what they what they excuse me to claim that a lawyer tried to
Starting point is 01:04:07 destroy his client which could destroy his job and his legal career i mean norm was so angry he couldn't even believe what i told him and he was just flying off i mean i've never seen it norm was so angry and norm's a hothead so yeah i agree the fact that she thought she could just do this let's put her picture back up there i mean who issues their official photo where it looks like you're a mars attacks alien she's like brian stelter she has no self-awareness of how nut she looks i mean charlie manson can't make a face like that we're doing this again yep that's great you know i i really really really would like it if norm tried to sue her because then that they would be like okay well she took the tweet down right really fast well so then this
Starting point is 01:04:52 suit goes away which would make you think if alex had stopped talking really fast then the suit would have gone away but it also raises this question for me and that is did norm actually say that he was considering suing because if he isn't then alex is just making shit up about it what his lawyers say absolutely yeah which is maybe worse i think it's exactly what elizabeth waited so anyway uh barns is a real pile of shit they keep talking i mean they talk about people sort of harvesting the pain of these families who's harvesting the pain of these families it's these plaintiff's lawyers it's the press is elizabeth williamson for their personal and political and partisan profit and it's really disgusting to see and it's important
Starting point is 01:05:37 for people to know out there but to my knowledge over 90 percent of the people who have a relative who died at sandy hook they're not suing alex jones they're not suing info war the vast mass of people refuse to go along with this case only a small percentage were convinced to go along with this case that's another fact he can't have presented to the jury well especially if you say they refuse to go along with it because that implies that it's all being driven there you go right yeah and basically based on the things that we've seen based on the behaviors the experiences that people have gone through i fully fucking understand why someone would choose not to sue alex it is a horrible thing to go through what these families have had to go through in the trial
Starting point is 01:06:24 and if there was not a sincerity behind what they were doing i very much don't believe they would have made it even close to this far no if they weren't sincere and dedicated uh working on behalf of the the the memories and and fucking all of us then they could have settled years ago years ago alex would have been happy to pay them right off you know like oh yeah whatever 20 million dollars i'll go for it claim a victory absolutely yeah yeah undisclosed settlement and everybody would have just fucking allowed him to keep doing that bullshit and that's what would have happened because that's how we live most of our lives we watch powerful people fuck off you know and do whatever they want yeah it's possible that could have been how it went but it didn't and now we're
Starting point is 01:07:12 here and barns is possibly defaming these families even more yeah i'd want to my knowledge over 90 percent of the people who have a relative who died at sandy hook they're not suing alex jones they're not suing info war the vast mass of people refuse to go along with this case only a small percentage were convinced to go along with this case that's another fact he can't have presented to the jury so it's part of a process where they are the ones responsible for more risk of more mass shootings they are the ones responsible for covering up political culpability and complicity and what happened at sandy hook where kids lives could have been saved but weren't because of rogue politicians pocketing money for reasons intended originally for school safety they're the
Starting point is 01:07:58 ones covering up for big pharma and our failed mental health institutions for young men in america they're the ones profiting off of all of it and they want to blame you for standing up for the second amendment and they want to blame you for second guessing what the politicians were doing and it exposes what the whole case is really about in a simple nutshell all right well said we're going to come back into 10 more minutes robert barnes well said you committing the crime well i mean well said the way that this is being uh expressed a very um simple reading of this could be that the plaintiffs who have decided to go along with this case are responsible for further school shootings yep they're engaged in a cover up of the things and the school safety at sandy hook
Starting point is 01:08:44 and what have you words mean yep definitely follows from pronoun reference you know how pronouns are are important to language and understanding them yes you use the pronoun to refer to the people which is why even if you don't say their names individually for instance say you didn't say the name of every single person who had a relative at sandy hook so sure but however you did use a collective pronoun to describe all of them meaning you are talking about them words words words oh so um yeah we're not done talking about this i am i am shocked i am i'm genuinely but he's supposed to be a lawyer boo boo boo boo boo but he's supposed to be a lawyer and he's doing the thing jordan he's supposed to know this is about nuclear war i forgot you're
Starting point is 01:09:35 right hold on i wrote that down at the beginning yeah it's been a long time since then yeah no we're going to talk about uh more conspiracies about alexa so let's raise this in closing hit the russian news and let you go have a great job our barns you watch the trial i don't know if you caught this part you covered most of it live and it was viral chris maddie the democratic party operative literally gets up there over an hour and brings up how we gave them total discovery we're not allowed to say we gave them discovery of the 287 thousand emails with key search terms they gave weeks after they file suit on us in 2018 we're sent a bunch of emails saying i want to get you i want to hurt you we're going to kill you alex jones for sandy hook and embedded because
Starting point is 01:10:24 we're not tech people there are secret embedded links just links to child porn so we turn the email over they know how to scan them and magically find the secret links highlight with your cursor gets up there and says okay you filed a lawsuit against the young turks that you filed just to get them to stop saying i'm a child pornographer and all this he said yeah it's true the FBI said you didn't do anything it was sent to you you didn't open it well then an hour later he says so you did send child porn let's just admit it you did it so he wanted to cover himself earlier knowing for clips on the internet they would later say it i said wait you just said earlier i was innocent so imagine the evil of that that's not what alex said alex said yes yeah alex fully understands
Starting point is 01:11:12 what maddie was asking him but he's pretending not to because he doesn't want his audience to understand the situation yeah maddie was asking alex about how he had sued the young turks over statements they'd made about sending child porn to the sandy hook plaintiffs lawyers this was meant to really make it clear that when he's on the other side of things alex fully understands how damaging defamatory claims can be and that he's more than willing to sue people for making such claims happily maddie was very clear that the fbi had looked into it and the emails hadn't been opened and they were sent to alex and they were turned over unknowingly which is why alex felt in the right to sue however if the claim was just that quote alex jones sent lawyers child porn and emails
Starting point is 01:11:53 then that claim is technically true yep it wasn't intentional and alex didn't know what was in the emails but those emails did get sent from alex's team to the plaintiffs and they did contain child porn this is what the tweet uh said that was included in alex's complaint against the young turks which is why maddie was making this distinction the thing that alex was suing over was a statement that was technically accurate but was suggestive in a way that could lead to reputational damage this was all to illustrate that alex's posturing and defiance in this case are decisions that he's making and that he's more than happy to use the courts as a weapon when he feels aggrieved even if the technical claim that was being made uh and being called defamation yeah is strictly speaking
Starting point is 01:12:33 accurate in this case if they wanted to file a free speech defense towards this uh the young turks maybe they could have fought their their first amendment rights or whatever yeah well i mean they could have gone to court and maybe they would have won or lost but they would have had that option in this case it is not that case yeah i don't know everything that's said in the videos on the young turks because i can't imagine them making the kind of claims that alex is saying they did but it would be really weird in the uh bit of the lawsuit that maddie brought up in court it was just the claim that is technically true right um right but yeah so alex it's just a it's just a um illustration of alex's willingness to uh use this these things that he's pretending to not respect when he's on
Starting point is 01:13:22 the other end of it absolutely because he's a piece of shit liar and the defense's uh lackadaisical it is a generous word uh willingness to give over discovery you know we're just gonna give you a million emails that you can't go through and we definitely won't go through them oops they have child porn well so alex if you'll recall early on when this happened yeah alex uh decided that maybe chris maddie had done this sure and he speculated about these theories with norm paddice sitting at the desk with him on air where alex is clearly drunk yes um and hey guess what alex is back to that theory uh oh so imagine the evil of that to know how to secretly find secret embedded invisible images i'm not saying he did it he said i said that i didn't say that i got a highlight with
Starting point is 01:14:16 your person i didn't say chris maddie did that i just said it's very suspicious and then at the end he comes out an hour later and says the jury he sent child porn to the families man i mean he this is unbelievable these people are unbelievable robert they had to use high tech systems were told to scan 280 000 emails and they scanned them and then they reported us the fbi for the information the fbi said we're not guilty because we never opened it but i mean this this this doesn't look too good i no doubt what what i mean alex is just dancing around this doesn't look good uh no i i mean that's again another factual statement i don't know i don't know who he thinks this looks bad for apparently uh the the plaintiffs attorneys i doubt it but i'll just say
Starting point is 01:15:07 this how do you get 280 something thousand emails and then scan them for secret links and then they find i mean it just it doesn't sound good well there was a lot of concern at the time as to what the source of this was and whether it was somebody aligned with the plaintiffs lawyers allies the lawyers uh what was it it was attacking us for standing hook in it yeah i mean exact i mean it was it was they sought information that was guaranteed to produce stuff that you didn't even know existed oh my god this is all so suspicious what yeah i mean they're just getting closer and closer to like come on they did this that it was a setup i was never really sure about what was going on until he waited like 45 minutes an hour and then said but you did
Starting point is 01:15:57 send child porn and look to the look to the jury and i was like oh my god you just did it he did it right there he did it right there well and he completely misrepresented your public presentation about that what you said was whoever sent that child point information you would like to have outed and and and so i said whoever did it a million dollars and then he spun it that i said he was doing it is this you did you just did then projection you did like five seconds ago it's always a possibility i mean you said he did it i'm not saying he did that he's a nice person what i mean yeah i mean who knows who knows you just said in a i came to a revelation tone of voice that when he asked me times you did you you said he did it he did it right there he just
Starting point is 01:16:52 no one know what pronouns mean pronouns just non-existent for these people how can they be so mad when people change their pronouns and they have no concept of what they are ah but look alex doesn't think that mighty did it all i know is that he completely misrepresented at the time how that came about and he misrepresented in court your public presentation he made it sound like you stuck his photo up and pointed to it and said he wanted his head on a stake all false that's all false that's just that's just a lie it's just one more lie that i don't i don't think maddie sent me i don't think maddie sent me that and we didn't say that at the time all i know is the whole thing's disgusting all right five minutes i'm gonna be the floor unbelievable
Starting point is 01:17:34 un fucking real yeah i mean if you're listening to this what do you come away with what do what a how confused would you be uh by what point is this guy trying to make i mean and i think i think anybody would be justified in thinking oh the conclusion that i'm supposed to go to is that the plaintiffs lawyers did send alex this yeah but he's saying no no he didn't rise like sort of a facetious way of yeah not getting himself sued again i think he's a nice person yeah that did it that didn't no i won't get sued see if you say you they're a nice person after you defame them by claiming that they secretly uh maliciously sent you child porn in order for you to send child porn to them uh and then are part of the conspiracy to convince the
Starting point is 01:18:23 families to go along with a fake lawsuit i think what you would come away from with this broadcast is that the sandy hook thing was a false flag run by the democratic fucking party and because they need to finish alex off they've planted uh stuff in his emails and so to recap alex is being sued for claiming that this so we get to russia a little bit sure why barns barn says some ideas let's barn scott to say i think his his idea is basically just to fucking give most of Ukraine to russia it does like that uh the parts of the country parts of ukraine that want to be part of russia should have uh should just allow that to be part of russia in the dispute finish it go on no there's no reason for continued backfiring economic sanctions that are going to induce a
Starting point is 01:19:14 great reset agenda in the western world the pound has dropped to the lowest level in 40 50 years the euro has dropped to one of the lowest levels it's ever been they're having a fuel crisis in europe they're having a food crisis in europe that food crisis is expanding to other parts of the world the net effect of this is going to be really ugly that the west war on russia has failed even henry kissinger has acknowledged this it's time to do as trump suggested do a deal cut a piece deal get out so uh if we look at what's happening in china the relevant and pertinent issues are alex is gone has there been a change of the guard you've got five minutes point it's just you better use all five but some of the rumors because i gotta be forced by sudden flight
Starting point is 01:20:05 cancellations in different places yeah so barns then uh now he has to spin some wheels and so he's like oh hey i saw a meme about china oh my god you realize alex said i'm going to give you five minutes here's the floor it is still a little rude yeah for us to just be gone unannounced that's fair yeah he was hungry also i love i love that this is just how things work yeah you can invade a country and then you can hold a referendum to see if people want to vote to uh to go and it could be a totally fair election and then it's part of your country now yeah it's all right barns oh yeah i mean i'm i'm i'm amazed at barns is a foreign policy acumen yeah i i i think basically what he's saying is uh guys in ukraine i understand you want to be people
Starting point is 01:20:55 but the euros low so you're russians now what if canada invaded like wisconsin uh well we got to give it to him right well if they wanted to frankly wisconsin could vote to become part of canada tomorrow remember whenever that civil war happened why didn't the south just say fine we you own us so anyway barns leaves um and this is two and a half hours in yeah alex is a little bit upset about russia sure but man i mean it's hard to estimate how dangerous this this this russia situation is i mean this is crazy all right i've got some other news i want to hit on the economy and on super mega cities in the new world order when we come back so yeah we you know we had other things though too you know super mega cities sure sure sure sure okay i thought this whole
Starting point is 01:21:44 thing was about it was i did too but it was um an hour plus of barns yeah oh like probably an hour straight of ads yeah i mean look this show is mostly ads listen to some of this bullshit 1776 coin dot com the teddy roosevelt man the arena coin is a fundraiser coin again if you haven't watched npr pbs you're a lucky man or a woman the old days they had some pretty good stuff but you know they have fundraisers every quarter when what what are you talking about for a t-shirt or hundred dollars for this or seventy dollars for you know it varies for a coffee cup everybody watching knows the coffee cup costs five dollars everybody watching knows the t-shirt costs six dollars with our silver you know it costs like 30 something bucks but
Starting point is 01:22:26 you know the point is is that it's a memento that you supported and you were part of that so the communists have taxpayer money to fund npr and pbs we don't have that we don't have big sugar deadies we have you so that's why it's a fundraiser coin if you're a founding member you can get it for nine nine dollars if you're not a founding member of the other three coins or one of the other three coins it's a hundred thirty dollars and the money is needed desperately to fund our operation that's why we're signing signed copies of the great reset and the war for the world for nine nine dollars because we need the extra money desperately please don't let me prove how much trouble we're in and how much trouble you're in
Starting point is 01:23:04 by us imploding or shutting down we need your help now i thank you i appreciate you infowarstore.com or triple eight two five three three one three nine and again a lot of this is no brainers look at these three products sold out from up to a year in the case of dna force plus it just goes on and on and on like they're they're like maybe a bit earlier in the episode even they're just long stretches like this and i was listening to this and i was like i can't imagine watching this and being like man this guy gets it yeah he is on the ball like how is there a value in this as something to observe i don't i just don't know i mean i didn't put in a number of clips about like how alex is like aha matt gates has been vindicated
Starting point is 01:23:53 right right there's that news uh apparently biden said something weird you're getting a little bit of these news things sort of just vague proclamations of nuclear war coming and then so much petty grievance about his his trial right yeah i mean we've we've seen this exist you know like cults people who've escaped cults or you know like scientists and that like you know they'll they'll come back and they'll say like the leader of the cult we would every day he would just talk yeah and we would all just sit there and listen and it didn't really matter what he said you know it was just about the basking in the my father is is proud of me i suppose you know i guess there may be something to that because you know you hear people who are like i've been listening for 10 years yeah
Starting point is 01:24:39 how to what yeah what do you hear yeah you know what how can you handle your brain being jostled all over the place like that but anyway we have one last clip here and this is how alex ends things this is so sad and we're shipping out within 24 hours of you order monday through saturday you order on sunday it'll take a few days to ship your product but we are in many cases shipping same day for orders at info or store dot com or triple eight two five three three one three nine now here's melinda french gates giving a little speech 55 seconds here it is for the tireless work she's doing to help steer the world through covet 19 for being an extraordinary champion for global health and for the immeasurable inspiration she provides to girls and women around the world
Starting point is 01:25:35 including me i am thrilled to present the 2022 global goalkeeper award to a remarkable leader of our time Ursula von der leyen that's the head of the european union and you see that rainbow melinda french gates that's the symbol of the great reset and the bill deberg group and their spokesperson claus Schwab and the we have so literally cutting off europe literally pushing force inoculations any questions whether melinda french gates as a globalist are absolutely destroyed what these are huge where was she these are depopulationist you can't just say that killers of the very worst magnitude there is all right i'm gonna end the broadcast yeah with the first eight nine minutes of end game
Starting point is 01:26:39 blueprint for global enslavement oh god you fucking piece of shit he's like i'm talking melinda gates is bad again so uh i gotta go watch a little bit of my movie oh my god that is fucking it's so lazy that clip was not about her knows melinda gates giving an introduction to Ursula von der leyen who's the head of the european commission right yeah and there's no rainbow swastika it's a circle there's a circle he just called it a swastika for no reason well it's a circle right yeah i don't i don't know i can't imagine anything more trivial than so much of what he spends his time with yeah but at the same time i think that this episode is deeply troubling uh barns's behavior i think legally it's deeply troubling i i i'm no lawyer i'm no barns
Starting point is 01:27:31 but this doesn't seem okay i i mean i just don't know what else to i don't know what else to say yeah you know i mean i think that i'm no lawyer but i do know a little bit about decency right and this is past that mark right right you one might say you do not know karate no but you do know crazy yes sure um so yeah i hope there's some consequences for this because this sucks yep yep yep yep this has got to stop but somebody's got to stop this but this is what alex had to leave kinetic it for somebody has to stop this it's it just can't keep going on it's barns is barns came on to do and he did the thing he did the thing yeah like there's no not saying that he didn't do the thing yeah he did it i i do wonder if there's some um some sort of a cushion of
Starting point is 01:28:25 whatever he was saying uh in terms of legal defensibility i don't know i i i i i think that it's disgraceful behavior absolutely uh he should lose his license yep absolutely anyway jordan we'll be back indeed we will dad um but until then we have a website we do it's knowledge right dot com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm wilford snibble snabble of the gribble pibble and now here comes the sex robots andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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