Knowledge Fight - #729: September 24, 2022
Episode Date: September 26, 2022Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at an emergency episode Alex put out on Saturday. He had just fled from Connecticut, mid-trial, but what prompted that departure? In this installment, this is rev...ealed, and Bobby Barnes shows up to try to be a real asshole.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge
everybody. Welcome back to Nell Triton. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around
worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we
are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot
today buddy? My bright spot Jordan is I mentioned this to you the other night and that is that
Hope Springs Eternal. Sure. And this. Is that the first time you've mentioned that to me
the other night? No but it's context yes. Okay. I just saw recently that there's a new
Sonic game coming out. That's right. Yes. A 3D Sonic game. Yes. Yes. And I was a big
fan when I was 1920 ish of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. Right. Played the hell out of that
on a GameCube. Okay. Big fan. The rest of the games of that ilk. Absolute garbage. So
bad. Really terrible. So bad. What do you do? You go forward. Yes. Sonic 3D games have
had a very bad reputation and I don't think that Sonic Adventure 2 battles even look very
kindly by history. Don't go back. I'm gonna. Okay. This new one when it comes out I'm gonna
try it. Well there you go. I can't. I can't not. Hope Springs Eternal my friend. Hope
does seem to spring eternal. You could be burned over and over again and come back to
that blue hedgehog. I mean there is something to be said about a hedgehog that goes fast.
I don't know what to say about that. It doesn't really make sense but it is a part of my brain
forever. There's something also I think just really evocative about that sound when you
get a ring. Oh yeah. There is that. It takes you back. It's really satisfying. Yeah. Anyway
my bright spot will soon be a blast. It will be a dark spot in a couple of weeks. So what
about you? I have a bittersweet bright spot. You know over the weekend the labor cup happened
named after Rod Lever. He was a tennis player. Okay. Oh I should have known. The cup is about
tennis and yeah. Roger Federer and Rafa Nadal played a doubles match and it was the last
match of Roger Federer's career. And it's just sort of like an exhibition kind of thing
just for fun. Yeah. For them it was. Yeah. For everybody else there there was like a
tournament or whatever but for the two of them they're like what do we we're just here
for fun. Yeah. This is just for show. Yeah. So they had a great time. They were then afterwards
everyone cried uncontrollably. It was ridiculous to see like just grown men openly weeping
in front of thousands of people. Pete Sampras was there waving. Andre Agassino. No he's
not allowed back in. Oh. Britain doesn't want him. Oh no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He won just
enough Wimbledon's. No but it was it was a really really amazing moment that you will
never ever witness again. That's very sweet. Yeah. It was really really cool. Well I I
bore of tennis but I am very happy for you. That's everyone else who enjoyed that. That's
a big that's a big time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's huge. So Jordan today we have an episode
to go over. Interesting. We're going to be talking about a special report that Alex put
out on Saturday. Oh September 24th 2022. Oh God. No. No. No this isn't a blackjack. No
it's not. So at the end of last week Alex had a blow up in court and I did get a little
bit of feedback that on our last episode where we talked to Elizabeth Williamson did not
give a whole lot of context for what was going on in the courtroom when Alex was having
his blow up. That is fair. Yeah. And one of the reasons for this was that I had some
clips that I had prepared but we had some recording difficulties. I wasn't able to use
a recording software that would allow us to use clips. Of course. And so we had our interview
and you know the familiarity that the three of us had with what it happened totally. I
got into that headspace where it's a little inside baseball. Of course. And I apologize.
We should have done a little bit better job of laying some of the groundwork. Yeah. Yeah
it is a little bit weird when all three of us have missed maybe two to three minutes
of this entire trial. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Like how are we gonna. Yeah. It's tough. It's
an unfair expectation that people should come to the show. Haven't already known all
these. Of course. Yeah. And so I mean but when I reflect on it a little more it is almost
as easy as saying Alex had a blow up. Really. It really is. There is not a ton more to
it. There was the he was being questioned about his coverage of Robbie Parker and Chris
Maddie asked him questions along the lines of you put a target on this guy's back. Did
you not. And then Alex got really mad. Started saying about Liberals wanted to kill people
in Iraq. There was that. Yeah. Oh you pick and choose who you care about. This is a trial
about other stuff. Alex and meanwhile Norm Patis was yelling objection over and over
again for anything and without the reason. It was like it was like a TV show where somebody
is pretending to be a lawyer and they just shout objection and the judge has to be like
you have to have a reason and Norm was like I'm a real technical lawyer in the universe.
He said objection more than Shakira. Yeah. She had a song. All right. I mean they had
the jury leave the courtroom and the judge was confused by the fact that Norm was objecting
to things that Alex was saying right as opposed to things that the other council was saying
right. And over the course of the day it had happened repeatedly that Norm would make an
objection. The judge would sustain it and Alex will have already answered the question
and won't stop talking. Yeah there is an issue there. And so she constantly tried to explain
to him when your lawyer objects stop talking. Absolutely. Because you might not have to
answer that question. It was and he did not seem to get that. It didn't register. No no
it was it was like watching a T ball game where the kid hit the T three straight times
and they're like well technically that's a strikeout but this is T ball. So I'm going
to put it right back on that T one more time. All right Alex you can do this. You hit the
ball part not the T but well well maybe next time. And then the other thing that was a
constant source of tension and a problem was that Alex would be asked yes or no questions
and then answer with what was starting to be a monologue. Yeah. And he had to be reminded
a number of times you could just answer yes or no. Well the truth if you answer yes or
no makes him look real bad and the issue there is which I feel like we don't fully all understand
in the courtroom. The reason that they look bad is because he's guilty and he has already
been found guilty or liable or whatever the right terminology. Sure. Sure. Sure. But I
mean when you answer those questions that you can't you can't answer it away. That's
like maybe I'm going to get off on this one. No you did it. It's already been decided. Yeah.
So that happened on Thursday and then on Friday Norm announced that Alex was not going to be
cross examined. He was going to waive his right to cross examine because Alex was going to leave
town. He was going back to Austin. It was a surprise move. Yeah. And they reserve the right
to call him again. And apparently early this week maybe Tuesday or Wednesday he's due to be back
right to be questioned some more. Yeah. I believe if Mehdi doesn't call him Mehdi reserved the right
to call him again under subpoena because that's what you would have to do at this point. But
Norm has also said he's going to plan to call him to testify it on his own behalf and the main
reason so he can actually monologue and not have to answer yes or no questions basically.
Well I mean you know where the bread is buttered and why Norm is getting a paycheck is hey give
me some time on that stand to run cover for me. It is like the first time I think ever anybody's
ever gotten air time out of Alex or Alex has gotten air time out of them. Yeah. It's on the
stand not on cable but it'll do it'll do. So Alex came back to Austin and you know why why did he
do it. We have to we have to see this Saturday show to find out. Boy I bet he's telling the exact
same story that I would tell which is that he got spanked and then ran away with his tail between
his legs. Nope that is not it. That's not his story. We'll learn a bit about what he has to say
but first let's say hello to some new wonks. That's a great idea. So these two just had a marriage
just got a marriage recently. So congratulations to Mr. and Mrs. McAwesome. You are now a policy
wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much and congratulations. Next I'll be dreamier
creamier tomorrow. Thank you so much you are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very
much. Thank you next existential Greig. Thank you so much. You are now a policy. want. I'm a policy
want thank you very much. Look out next. There's no infowar infillery. Thank you so much. You are
now a policy wonk. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. That's a magician's reference. Okay.
I was what I was really worried it was something like no all good remember the thing I watched
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then we got a couple of technocrats here in the mix Jordan. So first I
want to say hello and thank you to daddy's kissy boy. You are now a technocrat and it's Gary
with a hard G and then there was a long explanation of how to pronounce this not like Jerry. It is
Gary. It's Gary. Yes. All right. With a heart G. It is. Okay. And you are now a technocrat.
I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow actually.
I'm just going to take a little break now. A little break for me. And then we're going
to come back and I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken
out there. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day
fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe
today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew
and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow.
Boy he's not. Oh he's not. This is not a good show. Oh that's not good. But I will say as I was
preparing this and as I was getting ready for you to show up I really did feel like this.
It feels like it's been a while since we've had an episode that was just clear has been but it's
really only just been two episodes. We had interviews. Well you know for other people they
put out one episode a week. So they're like well what did we do in our last two episodes. That
was practically a month ago for us. Like what's our last two episodes. We did that yesterday.
Yeah emotionally it feels like it's maybe been a month. It's been so long. Yeah. Yeah. But it is
not. But we are back. All right. After a break of interviews. So Alex came back from Connecticut
and there's a really big reason why and it is the headline of his emergency. Fire in his eyes.
Well yeah. Oh mushroom cloud fire. I just got back last night from Connecticut in the show trial
and I've been following the news globally of war escalating to incredibly dangerous levels in
Ukraine. And I'm strongly considering not even going back to testify on my own behalf in our
part of the trial the show trial because I'm that concerned I can get stuck there without my family
with nuclear war breaks. That's why I took my wife and my younger daughter with me. The other
children are grown up or almost out of school. Two are out. One is still in high school.
And they've got my parents and family here. I mean it's that serious. OK. And I've never acted
like that. I've never behaved like that. He's he's frequently acted like that. But yeah apparently
it's I don't want to be stuck in Connecticut when the nukes start flying. Hey I mean that's that's
a that's an all time great excuse. That really that really is. That's not bad. If I was a teacher
if I was like a first grade teacher and a student was like I'm not going to do that homework and
I was like why. And they were like well assassination could happen at any moment to my father and I
don't want to be stuck doing homework instead of taking a bullet for him. Aren't you the bad person
in this scenario. I would rather. I'd love to do this book report but Putin's out of hand.
Lost it. Yeah. Also cool that his other kids can just be fine. Sure. Sure. They're cool. They're
well they're older. They'll handle nukes on their own but the young ones they don't know about nukes.
I don't mind being separate from separated from them in the case of a nuke. Yeah the teens listen
you don't want to be trapped inside with them even during a nuke. Sorry. Anyway I feel a lack of
sincerity. Yeah maybe a little bit. Yeah maybe nukes aren't the reason but that is the headline
of the show like nuclear war coming right around the corner. Gotta stay at Austin. And the new
world order is upon us. OK. And there was something that slipped through here that like even I almost
missed. I seriously may not even be able to go to Connecticut and defend myself because it doesn't
matter. We're going into a global depression. The borders are collapsing. People are dying
by the millions from the poison shots. We are inside the new world order ladies and gentlemen.
We are absolutely inside the global takeover of the great reset. It's all here. It's all happened
just like they said they would do and I've been warning for decades. People are dying by the
millions from the shots. I was trying to get whether or not he so he's saying that that's
happening currently. Yes we're losing millions of millions of people are dying because of the
daily because of the covid vaccine. All right. How many millions of. OK. I feel like this is one
of those. This is one of those math problems where you're like OK. Sure. You say a million a day.
That's a problem but it only takes like a week before it's 10 trillion people dead or whatever.
You know what I'm saying. A population wise. It's one of those problems. It's a it's a
no meal. Oh boy. Can't remember. I don't think that's right. Nope. That's the wrong one factorial
you got it. That's probably not right. It doesn't sound right but I'm going to take it.
Yeah. I think this is a little bit silly. But if you were to ask him about how he knows this you
would say something about actuaries and then we would move on and there's sure there's data.
So there's there's nukes coming. It's going to happen. I mean if millions of people are already
dying because of the vaccine nukes seem almost like weak tea at this point. Well I mean I guess it
depends on how widespread it is whether or not nukes would kill millions. That's fair. Certainly
there would be fallout and you know that that could have some pretty serious after effects. Well
it's grew up air travel out of Connecticut. That's one thing we know for certain. I find that difficult
to understand. I agree. Even if there was a nuke I think people would still be flying out of
Connecticut. Or you could rent a car. That's it. Nobody's driving from Connecticut to Texas.
So the nukes they're coming but there's one way that we can stop this thing. Okay. And the way
you trigger the public to peacefully protest and to flood the streets with candlelight vigils and
transcend party is by taking this live show feed right now and sharing it on mainstream platforms
like Twitter and Instagram and Facebook and on getter and independent groups like Gab
and everywhere else because you are the info warriors and without you ladies and gentlemen
we are not going to be able to stop this. We have a good chance of stopping this but even
mainline analysts predict a 50% chance of a tactical nuclear war in the next few months in Europe.
That will cause a global depression. Incredible problems. It'll be nightmare beyond imagination
and mainline analysts and I agree with them give it about a 20% chance of a full on nuclear war.
So I have a lot of trouble focusing on all the side issues.
Well this is going on. Yeah man. So if you want to stop nuclear war you need to spread
Alex's content all over the place free advertising for him which will initiate a series
of bipartisan candlelight vigils that will convince Putin not to nuke anybody.
That's a good idea. Yeah. That is a good idea. I mean if you're Alex and you just want people to
spread your shit around. It is a great idea. I have a question dad. Does he and I'm going to throw
this out because I think based on what he's telling me because nuclear war is so imminent
and almost frankly unavoidable. I mean it's a coin flip whether or not we have a new a tactical
nuclear war which I would argue if you start with a tactical one you're going to get a full one
pretty quick. Yeah. One one leads to the other. Yeah. Yeah. Is he still selling stuff though.
Oh yeah. But that's it feels like that's not important. You know like if the court isn't
important if those tertiary things to right nukes are not important. I feel like money is
less important now than it's ever been. Oh you bet. It's not though. Oh weird. Alex spends
this. This is a three hour long special report that you did. Yeah. I would say 45 to 50 minutes
are straight ads. It is so much. I was going to say how many you've cut out all of the not ads.
So we're going to listen to about 15 minutes of his show. Can you me to live. Can you have a boy.
Oh boy. I mean I have kept in some of the ads just for flavor but like fun things. Yeah. Oh boy.
Oh so you got to take this seriously though. Obvious 50 50 chance. I mean that's a trouble.
Yeah. That's very serious. You got to hug your kids. Yeah. People better take this more serious
than anything they've ever taken in their lives. It's that real. You better kiss your children.
Better hug them. You better hug your mom your dad your brother your sister your mom.
You better get right with God. And I'm telling myself that when I point my finger at you
three more pointing back at me. But we're coming under judgment ladies and gentlemen. Now before
I hit all the serious documented news for a couple of weeks I've been sent countless texts
and seen countless videos talking about the 24th of September 2022 and how all these historic
things historically have happened on this date. And I was into the Jewish calendar and mysticism
and the rest of it. I'm not putting any stock in that. Clearly. But every time the world's on the
verge of a cataclysm the general public will pick a date and decide it's that date that's causing
it. It's not that date that's causing it. It's the place and point in time we're in right now.
But regardless it's something that it gets the public's attention to be concerned. That's wonderful.
Hey cool. So yeah this September 24th stuff was like weird Q and on. Sure. Sure. Sure.
Those going around actually. But how dare you Alex. He talks about like the globalist's choosing
to do things on certain days because of the numbers and their arcane. Do you not remember
when Mars was closer than it had been in 60,000 years that he was like yeah they totally choose
that day. What are you talking about. Yes. Yeah. It's not the day. It's so interesting when it's
convenient for him to be into arcane esoteric bullshit. Yeah. And when it's convenient for
him to just sort of look down on it. I mean if he looked me in the eyes and said Jordan
correlation does not equal causation. I think I'd throw hands instantly like I wouldn't be able
to stop myself. What if he said Jordan factorial. I'd be like I was looking for that word earlier.
Thank you. I think I was looking. I am grateful. So Alex you know of course he looked like he
didn't care at his trial because nuclear war was on the mind and that's why he was looked like a
aloof dick. I get that. But there's other things that are happening. Okay. Allegiances are shifting.
All right. Loyalties are being tested. Okay. Ted Cruz killed the queen supported big tech
merging with big media and having total immunity. It's a horrible person right here at the end of
the line folks. He supports World War three by the way in Ukraine. He really now unclokes and
shows you the horrible person he always was. I tried to hope that he was an opportunist and
went against Trump and all that because he just wanted power. But I hope that you know in the
end he care about his family but he doesn't care. He is a Goldman Sachs operative who is as bad as
they get. You went against Trump. What are you doing. I mean Ted Cruz is bad now. I'm just writing
down Ted Cruz equals bad nine twenty two. Yeah. So we'll see when like when Ted Cruz is good again
I will write down the date there. We'll see how long it is before Ted Cruz is fine again.
Probably a week. Yeah. Ted Cruz is actually a secret patriot but he was a double secret
Goldman Sachs double patriot. Once he does something extreme that Alex enjoys. I got me back.
He closed the borders for real this time or whatever. Yeah. He's done it. Alex went so far
is to say that Beto is better than Ted Cruz because at least Beto will tell you what he's about.
All right. Well I guess Alex is going to be fundraising for Beto. That's such a baby.
Yeah. What a baby boof. So Alex has been dealing with some bankruptcy situations naturally last
week the the judge Judge Lopez bankruptcy case removed his lawyers and his reorganization officer
right because of conflicts of interest and a lack of transparency that was very clear on Alex's part
yeah and excessive spending that was suspicious sure that you wouldn't expect somebody whose
business was going in through a bankruptcy no spend eighty thousand dollars on security for a
trip to Connecticut that you cut short yeah nuclear war yeah but I mean nuclear war fair enough
eighty thousand dollars to save your life from a nuke with eight other guys it's really a steal
when it is it is yeah so anyway Alex has some spin for this bankruptcy okay so I wanted a
bankruptcy to prove in these courts I don't have all this extra money to go under that scrutiny
and a lot of people see that they go oh you're closing your doors no chapter five is emergency
reorganization where you show you're having trouble paying your bills but then you go into
reorganization where it sets the benchmark for how much money you actually have so we can stay on
air continue to operate and also show to the state courts everybody else when they claim I have
400 million dollars like they falsely did the Texas show trial four weeks ago we can show certified
all the stuff that it's just a lie and then that allows info wars free speech systems to stay on
air and continue to operate because they have federal laws where you're not supposed to just
be able to sue somebody and shut them down so we're very transparent about that it's it's
why we're doing it and I'll just address this now here I've never been in bankruptcy we've never
even taken loans here and except for my dad I looked at the big situation that was going on the fact
that we were on the verge of insolvency and all their lies and I said let's just put all the cards
at the table and go into bankruptcy and then most lawyers don't want to work with us most people
don't want to work with us but I got some good lawyer but then the way the courts work is you
have other separate lawyers that don't work for you that handle the actual bankruptcy part
and those lawyers the judge ruled last week judge Lopez in Texas
had not been transparent about everything they'd done in the past not not bad things but the fact
that they'd publicly done our last bankruptcy the democrats came back so we got info wars the website
back and info wars health that's a successful company and some other things it was a very
real bankruptcy that was tied to free speech systems to like quote pay debtors but they kicked
that boat because they wanted their show trials they didn't want that bankruptcy to hold up all
these show trials did you not actually owe them money and so the lawyers not even the lawyers the
cro that they appointed did not disclose even though it was public and all over the news so
why disclose that that they've done the previous bankruptcy just months before love I guess if
you've been in one bankruptcy and now there's another you don't fill out a form or something
it's an issue so the judge removed the cro and those two separate quote independent lawyers
who are all by the way the lawyers are democrats I'm not saying they did anything I'm just saying
okay your own lawyer in texas was a former high power democratic eric holder appointed eric
holder appointed right and he was in the courtroom in Connecticut you can see him there but um this
is not really fair it's not gonna quite accurate though one of the concerns was that these people
who were the had worked on this other bankruptcy had also sought employment at info wars and there
was a concern that they would uh have a conflict if there was something that was inconvenient to
alex right and so they were not uh impartial in a way that could be trusted by the bankruptcy
okay so you're saying that if you hired a lawyer who is very interested in getting a job for you
right and that lawyer did a good job then that lawyer would get that job right so maybe that
lawyer would have an incentive to do a quote good job well as opposed to a accurate one these
concerns could be there and then I believe also uh you know somebody who so need to have somebody
who's wholly independent because absolutely part of what you're looking at is like a web of family
businesses that are like and you know if you're somebody who has any reason to have deference
towards alex right you're going to probably run into some brick walls you're going to run into brick
walls that you didn't even know you needed to ask about you know it's that kind of thing where even
if you are doing a good job alex will say something and if you believe any word he says he's gonna get
away with one thing you know like it doesn't matter if he gets away with all of it but you
just don't have the capacity to get every single thing unless you are completely I suppose opposed
to his continued existence or just uh completely neutral to it sure like if you are just doing your
job well right by the book no attachment yeah that's fine and it's it is it is so infuriating when he
complains like oh they claimed I have 400 million dollars no the guy made an estimate based upon what
he could glean from the amount of lie finances that you gave to him in the first place if you
had given him your actual finances wasn't it he wouldn't have estimated shit wasn't it also along
the lines of like this is an estimate of what a business oh good business yeah yeah run well would
yeah well run business yes so speaking of a badly run business uh alex's book uh deal apparently
wasn't so good she'll get the great reset worth of the world signed that's a donation as well that's
why it's 99 dollars or get the regular book for 20 something bucks number one book in the world right
now and again blisters also have sent us emails well if you got the number one book in the world
shouldn't that fund your operation I haven't paid I said 80,000 this house being paid it was 76,000
dollars came in two weeks ago that's great honestly put the whole thing into free speech systems
that's my money but I'm so running out of money I'm gonna keep 20,000 and put the other uh into the
company to keep the crew should you be telling us this and yeah they say at current sales rates
a couple weeks ago another 80,000 90,000 dollars but that's how books work it's not the number one
book in the world also it's uh number 18 on amazon now we've gone through this sliding
been sliding a little no but I like to check in every now and again of course the january 6 report
number 15 okay so that's out performing alex on amazon they sell the january 6 report apparently
yeah the committee's report that doesn't sound fair uh steve ducey and his wife their cookbook
sliding down to number 10 oh man I'm really bummed out for them also still beating alex the
very hungry caterpillar yeah but that should be there forever the bear the barefoot kentessa's
cookbook is at number 16 beating alex wow who is the barefoot kentessa is it all of us or is it
like the friends we met along the way in a garden oh okay that's uh all right also calleen hoover
killing it so many so much book sales god damn people like that why a uh the romantic they really
do fantasy i think it's fantasy i'm not sure easy for that shit anyway alex you should have
negotiated a better deal on these books and also where are we at if you need to keep 20,000 of that
for yourself as opposed to putting it into the business what are you putting that 20,000 into
right it makes no sense based on the way he lives what is happening well i wanted to get a car
yeah okay fine then you get okay then don't tell us you're keeping 20,000 for okay yeah so um alex
has uh some clips from the trial that he wants to play because this is about nuclear war and i
want to now air before i hit more news and bring robert barnes on and hit the southern news oh god
barnes some of these little excerpts of that the crew put together uh one of them is where they
attacked me over cryptocurrency like i'm a criminal show the crew put a little promo together
from that uh and then we're going to go ahead and air before i left yesterday kinetic it went to a
apple orchard with my wife and daughter my five-year-old and that's aj what talks about
the ultimate revolution god's green earth which is the counter to the tree of death
whoa what apple orchards my man what did you just tell me what are you what are you confused by
are you telling me that he's going to play a clip of him in the courtroom uh a a compilation
put together by his his team and he's also going to play a clip of him and his wife and his daughter
walking through an orchard together because that's god's ultimate green earth revolution
i mean it's just really kind of a nice saturday i suppose so i'm i'm fine with you having a nice
saturday yeah just don't play it more wholesome than him peeing on the georgia guide stone there is
that there is that you're right this is a family show so the there's no problem with alex's getting
crypto or anything like that and it wasn't in the case uh it wasn't that wasn't the problem the issue
that was trying to be elucidated by chris maddy yeah was the issue of alex do people know that when
they give you crypto it goes to your personal account right as opposed to because that could
be seen as maybe deceptive wow fund the info war donate to this and then it goes straight to his
wallet right i know that that might be manipulative business practice and as he said in the trial
right he said well and i understand what you're saying but it all just it goes through my personal
account to the business now i would argue that perhaps for a good piece of evidence as to why
maybe we should be suspicious about that he said i'm going to take twenty thousand dollars right now
of my book money that i said i was going to put all into the business so there might be a reason
to be suspicious about well there's definitely no trail uh that you know we are aware of that
that money did go to the business and i mean i guess you if you want to put it like really super
abstractly like it going to his legal fees or something like that it's still him business expense
question mark yeah quote unquote anyway barns is going to be on great but he's going to don't worry
he's on to talk about russia and the nuclear war okay good i'm sure that he's not going to have
anything to say about the case okay good robert barns joins us robert will also obviously get
into russia the huge escalation there that is the big central story that they're national
drafting announced putin saying i'm not bluffing threatening nuclear war that's coming up this
hour as well but i think it's important front and center to talk about this show trial and
your observations oh of course where you see this going because i don't want to be over positive
they got a bunch of crying parents we're wow forward evidence but a lot of former judges and
current judges and a lot of people call my lawyers and said wow this blew up in their face this is
not going well yeah that uh that's a vibe you know that's that's not something you like to hear
yeah it is it is fun hey look i don't want to get too optimistic because i got crying parents
fuck it is it is fun to like listen to metty and court just be like you're using this trial as
a fundraiser as we speak yeah yeah well and there is an irony because he did say when alex was talking
about the crypto thing is like you're gonna use that in an ad like her and then he did yeah yeah
and i there is a part of me that wonders if he would have used it in an ad if uh he hadn't
have said that like maybe that's trolling and if so fair play you know i guess it's low it's a
little shady but do do what you gotta do what's more concerning is if he didn't have the idea
at all uh and then met he gave it to him he's like that's a good idea that's a pretty smart
you know like that's that's a concern how how could i possibly have left money on the table
yeah exactly exactly i can't leave money yeesh what a monster yeah so barns sucks too yeah of
course alex and barns boy this is a bad display of people just a bunch of psychos sitting there
being weird as shit yep just lying for me let's be clear to see interject here they showed a
magazine we put out with obama on the cover saying obama comes for your guns let them talk about
how i didn't like obama in case jurors or democrats and when my lawyer tried to come back
and cross-examine the judge said no politics i mean oh it's very much scripted and there's
the point of this whole trial is to present a trial where only one side is allowed to present
their case and it's the part of the case that's not considered relevant for this stage of the
trial and that's that's exactly what's taking place and uh fortunately you were able to successfully
resist their effort for you to play to their script for you to stick to their tail was you to
play the villain in their role boy i don't think the truth of the matter it's why they could never
afford a trial on the merit that's why they could never give you your day in court as we've seen
presented i mean the lead witness was an fbi guy who knew nobody who died that day why is he suing
what is he why is he here he's still in the fbi fbi lawyer an fbi lawyer suing alex jones and he
admitted that i never said his name and he never heard of me until the suit he did not admit that
alex never said his name he says he didn't know he doesn't know if he did and alex can't say that
he didn't know no because there are so many videos that they did not produce you got it so legally
alex can't make that claim nope and um this is pretty shitty on barns's part to try and present
this person bill aldenberg as just an fbi lawyer who has no connection to the case yeah as if he
wasn't somebody who responded to the school as if he wasn't somebody who was the subject of conspiracy
theories surrounding people being actors that ended up conflating him with mr wheeler another
grieving parent as if he doesn't have ptsd from just walking on that scene right you know like
just being there no he's just an fbi lawyer no just an fbi lawyer i i know it seems like there
rules and shit but if barns is allowed to say this stuff in public and still be a lawyer i feel
like there aren't that you know i don't but i don't think he really is even much of a lawyer
oh that's a good point i mean i think he does stuff for attention that's a good point quite
frankly that is a good point i'm sure he would be disbarred if anybody had reason to or i mean like
yeah i i think that a lot of the stuff he does doesn't end up getting into a court that's that's
kind of yeah yeah it's a lot of bullshit and a lot of like stuff that you can go on alex's show
and talk about right right right right right we're gonna finally sue the vaccine people right right
right great i got you enjoy yeah yeah so uh barns just has a completely distorted uh warped view
of what happened in that courtroom yeah i was waiting to hear from any of the plaintiffs how
they uh that their injury was caused by something you said or did and instead what i heard were
stories that didn't mostly relate to you at all so i mean he could he's just pretending that the
whole thing about matt mills the guy who interrupted the super bowl press conference didn't happen in
the courtroom yeah um because that would satisfy this curiosity right there he has yep example number
one i mean this is just selectively removing these things from the conversation about the the trial
because they're inconvenient yeah you want there to be nothing you want there to be no connection
and you need it to there to be no connection for your argument to make any sense so there wasn't
anything right yeah the fact that there was it shouldn't get in the way of whether or not what
you need it to be don't let the truth ruin a good time exactly it's a good time yeah anyways buy our
shit um so alex believes that he has scared the plaintiff's attorneys well i mean emotionally maybe
but he thinks that they are like so worried about the the case now he's blown it wide open boy yeah
wow i can't get into attorney client stuff obviously robert but they were calling our lawyers back
there yesterday morning they were in full panic they were on the ropes and they basically didn't
even want me to testify yesterday and didn't know what to do and we said yeah we'll just come back
we're able to quote present our case even though we're handcuffed and then straightjacketed and
restricted next week why even have you know norm to a cross examination on the limited stuff matty
said because matty crapped the bed in norm patiss's words but they were in complete panic even the
media agreed they blew up in their face so yeah uh matty is is real worried real scared of of alex's
righteous triumphant outburst oh man this is coward shit this is coward shit i i wouldn't i wouldn't
engage in this this is bad you think so this is real bad i mean it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't
come off weak oh man i i mean i don't wanna you know like when i when i played baseball you know i i i
didn't get a strike out and then i was like see the problem was the ball was afraid to hit my bat
that was the main issue right it was that it wasn't that the pitcher was good
is that that ball was like i'm terrified well and also i want to i want you to write down really
quick here uh that he said norm said that uh chris matty shit the bed yes write that down
because that'll be important later will do so uh barn's just you know he thinks that uh
these people aren't ready to deal with truth people it doesn't sound true like like uh norm and
alex now where do you see all this going well i mean i think their their script is not going to
plan because their script is false and that's their problem and so they're trying to dot and
because norm patis has refused to go along with their effort to script this trial and uh and you
refuse to go along with efforts to limit your ability to defend yourself adequately as you're
constitutionally entitled to within the rules they're not having success and you're seeing their
emotional frustration be publicly expressed i mean to be honest with you from a pure legal
perspective law lawyer perspective this has been very incompetent representation i mean these parents
have had ineffective representation i understand that this is a very politically powerful connected
law firm in connecticut but i heard from many people who are on the plaintiff's side in this case
who thought that the plaintiff's lawyer was terrible and it's because he's more politically
motivated to prosecute this case it appears to me then he is actually getting to truth or
justice because actual justice would rule against him and actual truth is in fact against him and
that's why he can't that's why he's stuck in the situation trying to do a soviet style stasi style
cuban uh fidel castro style show trial but can't achieve it because the truth is still leaking out
anyway chris maddie is bad counsel says king of bad counsel robert barn says guy
about to be sued for incompetence if we take anything that the info wars corporate representative
testified to under oaths seriously then yes they're considering suing uh you robert robert barns
media star bobby barns for malpractice i mean it is it is ridiculous to say that they're doing a bad
job because barns believes that the job itself is is like impossible to do because it's fake
right so you can't do a bad job unless there is a real thing that you could do a good job for
right like if barns had advice them here's what you should have done you should have called this
person or you should have crossed into examine this way this advice is you should have been
angrier his advice is you should have not brought the suit well yeah so like shut the fuck up but
he also was the lawyer who filed alex's suit against the young turks so it's a little bit pot
and kettle seems that way so here was where things got real messy i think that barns has a conspiracy
about sandy hook that is not good that's not good the question was i mean they can't even understand
what the right stock fire is they can't even understand what a false flag is a false flag
originated from pirates putting up a false flag to trick the the boat they were about to hijack
and and loot uh the that doesn't mean the looting didn't happen or the hijacking didn't happen a
false flag is an event that did in fact happen but the cause and the culprit are inaccurately
identified and that is precisely is what's been taking place and what were the issues
concerning sandy hook which is it turns out the politicians pocketed the money rather than put
school safety first and if they had done so if they've done something as simple as allow teachers
to lock the inside of the doors of the bathrooms inside their classrooms be able to lock the inside
of the doors into their classrooms be able to have other means of self-defense available
such as trained people with guns in the teachers and school safety personnel then the reality is a
lot of those kids are alive today but the the politicians couldn't let that message get out
and the reality is the democratic party he didn't like the fact that you put up a poll
at info wars that asked what might be a future false flag but that's because what's the political
reality right now the political reality right now is the more school shootings happen the more
plaintiff's lawyers like his firm profit the more school shootings happen the more the democratic
party with their good and control agenda profit they don't have an incentive to maximize school
safety and that's why they're that's why they covered up what happened at sandy hook and the
school safety inadequacy that took place there wow all right so barns is getting added to the suit
it's it he just questioned sandy hook well this isn't even as bad as he gets on this episode
wow um because he should be added to the suit he's now part of info wars dancing around some
interesting dicey territory he said that the government covered it up yeah and the democratic
politicians were um embezzling and pocketing money that was meant for school safety and that's why
the shooting happened and they're covering that up yep by uh sort of making an example of alex
or something yeah this is messed up he just did the thing that you get sued for in the thing that
in the place where they're getting sued for it it's uh it's strange it's a strange tactic i mean
if i were him i would i mean i would say that many might have said to me that he is not doing a good
job as counsel uh well he's not counsel so that's cool i mean he just uses his fucking law degree
as a prop yeah basically yeah he just goes and talks shit on extreme right wing shows and his
own podcast that sounds about right um but yeah the other thing too is um that poll that was
brought up is actually an important point um so there was a poll on uh info wars on the home page
that was what will the next false flag be bombing mass shooting or whatever right and part of this
the point of it was to illustrate how alex is conditioning in advance for the audience to
believe things that happen to be fake before they happen anything yeah if you're predicting something
is going to be a false flag when something happens you're going to think it's a false flag right
this is something that we've discussed uh quite a bit in terms of alex's behavior yeah the way he
acts the way he uh just gets these these narratives in place in advance but the the poll itself was
a really helpful visual explanation of that and of course yeah uh barns doesn't doesn't like that
because it looks bad it looks real bad yeah so look barns just he's going for it he's swinging
something all right because they wanted to blame the gun rather than let the world know
big pharma has culpability here because the way in which young men are being medicated on some of
these drugs is often backfiring and has and has side effects they often don't fully know about
or meaningfully remediate they don't want to talk about inadequacies of school safety because that
didn't pay to the democratic politicians and political class in connecticut and they don't
want to talk about culture that glamorizes violence because it's a culture they profit from and they
don't want to talk about media glamorizing these individuals that commit these horrible crimes
because big media profits a lot of the pockets the cash the most from anybody and that's why
they had to blame the gun and blame alex jones they couldn't blame the shooter they couldn't
blame mental health they couldn't blame school safety they couldn't blame big pharma and they
needed to continue to happen because it's the only way they'll continue to politically profit
off of these school shootings and that's what's disturbing that's what's maybe most unsettling
is a case it's about preventing the harm from school shootings and the consequences to vulnerable
parents is being used to cover up the true culpable parties for this school shooting
and to falsely blame those who are trying to defend constitutional rights and liberties in america
so this is just bullshit i mean even if you take everything as true that he's saying which i would
say you shouldn't yeah but even if you do the trial that's going on isn't about school safety
it's not about any of this stuff it's about the harm that alex caused to these people right by way
of his lies about them uh the denial of their children's existence um yeah so i i don't know i
mean it's it's interesting to throw a bunch of mud at the wall and see see what kind of designs you
can make out of it right this is disgraceful stuff i mean i i just sometimes you like with
this clip especially i feel like you should play that in front of the jury as just it doesn't get
more obvious that there's no other way to stop them than to stop them because the lawyer who started
on this case yeah comes back years later during the case after he was kicked off of it
to do the thing the case is about yeah more or less and uh i mean he's been monetizing coverage
of this case he has on his own viva fry viva barns fry podcast or whatever the fuck so he
has every reason to have seen all of these things that he's pretending didn't happen like the uh the
super bowl uh press conference guy yeah he's pretending that bill aldenberg is just an FBI
lawyer he knows that that's not the case right he's watched the trial and made money off the
analysis of it right this is malicious lying absolutely there's no other way around it no
he's just intentionally lying to appease alex and create like some kind of a weird reality where
he's aggrieved yeah i don't know yeah i mean this is just this is just textbook like here's punitive
damages the only punishment that will affect like like when you say punitive damages the point
of punitive damages is to punish the behavior to get the behavior to stop not to like find the
behavior like hey okay if you kick that dude in the shins you owe us five bucks but you can kick
him in the shins as long as you've got five bucks you know right like the idea is you have to stop
this and it's happening on the show after a trial already did the thing oh it gets worse oh my god
sanny hook didn't make money for info wars sanny hook cost money for info wars he knows that
so he's got to try to hide and lie in grandstand but though because he's uh dealing from a deck of
deceit he cannot come across as a credible authentic truthful voice in the courtroom
and that's why he continued to look bad is because he was unable to trap you he was unable to provoke
you he's talking about maddie unable to provoke him a little you want to go with unable to provoke
him on that one part a little into the the caricatured response they imagine you are and he
was unable to get away with uh constant lies and the manner and method in which he made his
presentation manner and as he couldn't get away with it in his grandstand vision of this political
theater where he's the hero at the end of the documentary in the film he lost it and that's
and that's why people watching are like hold on a second i thought this was about parents i thought
this was about emotional injury i thought this was about undisputed uh uh dishonesty i'm not
seeing any of that i'm seeing politics politics politics theater theater theater because that's
in fact what the plaintiffs council has always been about they have used these parents for the
gain of the political class with which they are aligned and the political causes which which
they are assigned that's the reality of it that might be defamatory that is defamatory don't write
the plaintiffs might uh be i think it should be added to the to the case i mean i don't know what
else to say other than if you say the parents are being used by powerful interests then you are
part of the sandy hook denial well but what like how if you are the plaintiff how do you
respond to that because if you say no i'm not being used but when you are you just don't know
that you're being used you the best way to use somebody's if they don't know they're being used
yeah right if you have a sincere belief in the case that you are uh a part of then this is a
denial of your trauma this is a denial of your experience absolutely it's uh at very least if
not legally actionable so shitty it's unbelievably shitty here's here's what he is saying he is saying
that ultimately what they went through was meaningless and it has nothing nothing to do
with anything and no one cares yeah um so yeah barns barn sucks yep anyway uh he also thinks that
info wars tried to stop sandy hook conspiracies this is a this is a sell me on this one is a fun
one give me this pitch info wars didn't stalk anybody info wars didn't send people to stalk
anybody release the crack didn't even talk about almost everybody suing ever uh info wars mostly
did not was a critic as paul joseph Watson the editor during this entire time frame
was a critic of the sandy hook denier movement uh info wars was a restraint on the sandy hook
denier movement the info wars made no money off of the sandy hook denier movement we had debates
we had on-air debates on who was right absolutely indeed people were mad at you calling you boat
bridges saying that you were fake because you were critical of the sandy hook denier movement
for so long and so often and so many other people were at info war and the reality is the reason why
that the people went to conspiracy theories in the denier movement was because the politicians
in connecticut were covering up their complicity and culpability in the inadequacy of school safety
that's why they're destroying the school that's why they're hiding information from the sunshine laws
that's why they're not producing information pursuant to freedom of information act or open
records act request that triggered a lot of people's conspiracy theories they end up being
wrong in their conclusion but there was in fact cover-up taking place by the political class
in connecticut and the only case the connecticut courts didn't allow to go forward was the one
that exposed the schools for inadequate school safety they allowed 73 million dollars shakedown of a
gun manufacturers insurers and now they're allowing another uh effort to now and by the way the judge
bars me from letting them know about that yeah i can't can't uh let people know about that i guess
yeah so there up there is apparently a cover-up yeah that barns this is not something that is
long standing as a defense of alex it does seem to have just happened i've uh i've not been aware
of this this line maybe i missed a couple episodes where this was go i tune out when barns is on
sometime right right that might explain it but this this seems pretty fucking over the top right
it seems uh off the beaten path a little bit there's that and uh just disgraceful well i mean it
might as well be a uh a full court buzzer beater is what he's going for he's he's trying to throw it
all the way down well this is not good and there's a couple of things in in that explanation that he
was offering that i think are fair points one is that paul was fairly critical of this right but
you don't get to use that he was not listened to he was critical of you yes and you didn't listen to
him he was not critical of other people right he said specifically you guys yes alex you need to
stop this alex he used your name if alex is going to complain about other people not use it so
there's that and then the second thing is that um you know barns does bring up something that did
happen and that was that some people were mad that alex wasn't extreme enough on this conspiracy
and then guess what he got more extreme yeah yeah because his audience demanded it yeah and so actually
i think that this argument works very solidly against alex uh but i guess it you know well
the somehow feels better for him the thing about it is that if you ever get to reality in any of
these theories you're gonna find it works against alex on account of reality that is true every part
of reality that you inject into their conspiracies you're like well that sounds bad for alex that's
the real world it's a reality is stationary in some ways yeah um so we we on friday uh had an
interview with elizabeth williamson yes um i did not expect this but she factors heavily into this
episode of course yeah great alex is mad about a tweet uh that she put oh god let me do this this
is the final point i want to head on this we're gonna play a little clip and come back from
breaking get into all the other huge news it's not it's not the final point you're gonna shine here
i want your view on russia and the economy and matt gates and and then the midterms of 45 days
and so much more but take elizabeth williamson this woman is a sandy hook groupie this woman
writes her book tries to make money on sandy hook uses me of it she goes around for years
and says stuff that's not true or twisted about me constantly we never really follow her but sure
yesterday i'm about to leave the uh airbnb i met because we decided not to do the cross
examination and just do my own case next week and you ran away one of my security guys walks over
and says look here's the new york times it's all over the news saying your lawyer just attacked
you in court and said you're a horrible person everything you say is fake you did a terrible
you're a terrible job and so that's why you're not testifying today so i call norm
he comes back in 10 minutes at a break he goes he starts literally freaking out he said we didn't
even talk about you in the court case i mean it was behind the it was you know it was in chambers and
you know they want to cancel this they're they're they're on the ropes i didn't say that i think
you did a great job everybody's calling me said you did a great job he goes you're joking and i
center the text and he literally said he lost control he's screaming at her when he saw her in
the hallway and so she says i'm sorry i'm sorry i i shouldn't have done it so i'm thinking norm
i want to trust you but it's hard to believe she'd lie that bad he goes i'm telling you
she's gonna retract it's a lie she then said i'm sorry i made it up in a tweet so suffice it to
say a lot of this is nonsense but here's what happened yeah she put out a tweet that was essentially
saying that alex could have testified today if you wanted to but his lawyer said in court that he
looked so bad in front of the jury he needs some time away from them right right that's what the
tweet was now the issue was that this is a poor paraphrasing right and she he didn't say that norm
didn't say that what he had said was that he wasn't gonna have alex testify because they needed to
lower the temperature right and so this is the the miscommunication bad paraphrasing
that uh liz engaged in and she put a tweet out saying hey he didn't say this right so out of
courtesy i talked to him and i'm gonna delete this tweet share you know a fair correction and i
think you know i think your your mileage can vary as they say but i think that's a fair paraphrasing
yeah absolutely no that's what he that's what okay all right maybe that's not how norm would
experience it and i don't know exactly what else you would have meant by we got to lower the temperature
i mean yeah um it's like okay i and i understand why she retracted it and i understand why she felt
that she used the language he said exactly i think is right you know that's the poor paraphrasing
right i recognize that on the other hand words have to mean things and the words that norm said
mean the words that elizabeth said so if you don't want words to mean things then don't have words
that but there is enough wiggle room for interpretation i think that when you say he said
it gets it gets a little bit messy right but i like i'm saying i still think it's it's an
all right paraphrasing but technically uh you can make an argument for it is inaccurate i think
that's my main problem with it i think my main problem with it is that if you accept that hit
what he said has wiggle room then you are missing that what he said was what elizabeth said
if you're going to tell me that there's wiggle room with what he said i don't believe that there
isn't a world where norm could believe that he sincerely is saying i don't want alex to testify
to lower the temperature because he's worried that maddie is too hot or something like that yeah
i could see that perception being in his head when he says that right i don't believe that that
reflects reality right but i can see alex or norm having that be their reality right so to them it
is a misrepresentation right but them having a reality is the problem that we're adjusting it in
the first place i guess so us indulging them in their reality which is clearly not true
is the problem well i i don't really know what else you do that's a good point you know we are
we are now stuck in in where we get stuck in usually pretend to crush the globalist we can't
crush their false reality right we have to why not i think we need to i don't i don't how would you
i don't know a false reality crusher anyway we can we can make them up in false reality world
exactly so liz needed to make up this lie because alex did too well in court norm's doing victory
laps everybody's calling him saying chris maddie crap the bed judges are calling him everybody's
flipping out it's incredible everybody agrees to blow up their face he gets up there and says well
everybody you know we have such a big victory we're not going to do this she she goes i'm not
going to let that happen so she goes in lies even though this is on television none of it was said
not even close and then deletes the tweet and says this folks i'm going to delete this tweet
after talking with at paddice norm john's lawyer who raised it in the courtroom he wouldn't have
said it's a lie the judge will let him say it though not with me i asked him after what's wrong
he makes the accurate point that he did not say this as i wrote here i apologize for the error
it's not an error you're a lying witch that flew in there on a broom i mean i mean nor she didn't
tell us besides i said norm stop freaking out when i told him he said he said i called her in
the break and he goes you're joking she didn't say that he said we didn't even talk about you in the
hearing we went back and then decided to recess for the day because they were in shambles he goes he
goes you're you're joking right you he didn't believe me she literally pulled it out of her
butt so yeah the alex did so well they needed to spin somehow so liz came up with this fake tweet
right right and also a bunch of other people were calling norm and saying that maddie cracked the
bed sure so maybe alex is misquoting somebody maybe he said that norm said that did norm actually
say that because if not alex is doing the exact same thing we need to i mean i want him to retract
this i bet he will i bet he will i'm sure it's just a dumb childish game yeah um but i you know
you gotta get where you you gotta you gotta do what you can you know i mean you only have a few
opportunities where people have like it's a sincere mistake sure uh you know it's not a huge
mistake right um and something that she apologized for and clarified and because of that alex can
now pounce an attack exactly she's because he doesn't want to touch any of these other things
well and because she's trapped by having a real job and not being able to say fuck you you said
that shut up you know like that's because that's what i would have done well um you're not like
norm that exactly because norm is thinking about suing do it it's not a coincidence that elizabeth
williamson grifting off of sandy hook personally profiting off the pain of sandy hook would lie
and libel about you and a libel libel because it once again reaffirms you love that the truth
came out even with a biased jury pool that the truth came out they would not get the verdict they
want because they've been pitching a fake narrative about so let's raise this i mean i think i think
norm is really thinking about legal action against her this is serious folks because this is premeditated
pure whole cloth fraud what they what they excuse me to claim that a lawyer tried to
destroy his client which could destroy his job and his legal career i mean norm was so angry
he couldn't even believe what i told him and he was just flying off i mean i've never seen it norm
was so angry and norm's a hothead so yeah i agree the fact that she thought she could just do this
let's put her picture back up there i mean who issues their official photo where it looks like
you're a mars attacks alien she's like brian stelter she has no self-awareness of how nut she
looks i mean charlie manson can't make a face like that we're doing this again yep that's great
you know i i really really really would like it if norm tried to sue her because then
that they would be like okay well she took the tweet down right really fast well so then this
suit goes away which would make you think if alex had stopped talking really fast
then the suit would have gone away but it also raises this question for me and that is did norm
actually say that he was considering suing because if he isn't then alex is just making
shit up about it what his lawyers say absolutely yeah which is maybe worse i think it's exactly
what elizabeth waited so anyway uh barns is a real pile of shit they keep talking i mean
they talk about people sort of harvesting the pain of these families who's harvesting the pain
of these families it's these plaintiff's lawyers it's the press is elizabeth williamson for their
personal and political and partisan profit and it's really disgusting to see and it's important
for people to know out there but to my knowledge over 90 percent of the people who have a relative
who died at sandy hook they're not suing alex jones they're not suing info war the vast mass of
people refuse to go along with this case only a small percentage were convinced to go along with
this case that's another fact he can't have presented to the jury well especially if you say
they refuse to go along with it because that implies that it's all being driven there you go
right yeah and basically based on the things that we've seen based on the behaviors the
experiences that people have gone through i fully fucking understand why someone would choose not to
sue alex it is a horrible thing to go through what these families have had to go through in the trial
and if there was not a sincerity behind what they were doing i very much don't believe they would
have made it even close to this far no if they weren't sincere and dedicated uh working on behalf
of the the the memories and and fucking all of us then they could have settled years ago
years ago alex would have been happy to pay them right off you know like oh yeah whatever 20 million
dollars i'll go for it claim a victory absolutely yeah yeah undisclosed settlement and everybody
would have just fucking allowed him to keep doing that bullshit and that's what would have happened
because that's how we live most of our lives we watch powerful people fuck off you know and do
whatever they want yeah it's possible that could have been how it went but it didn't and now we're
here and barns is possibly defaming these families even more yeah i'd want to my knowledge over 90
percent of the people who have a relative who died at sandy hook they're not suing alex jones
they're not suing info war the vast mass of people refuse to go along with this case only a small
percentage were convinced to go along with this case that's another fact he can't have presented
to the jury so it's part of a process where they are the ones responsible for more risk of more
mass shootings they are the ones responsible for covering up political culpability and complicity
and what happened at sandy hook where kids lives could have been saved but weren't because of
rogue politicians pocketing money for reasons intended originally for school safety they're the
ones covering up for big pharma and our failed mental health institutions for young men in america
they're the ones profiting off of all of it and they want to blame you for standing up for the
second amendment and they want to blame you for second guessing what the politicians were doing
and it exposes what the whole case is really about in a simple nutshell all right well said we're
going to come back into 10 more minutes robert barnes well said you committing the crime well i mean
well said the way that this is being uh expressed a very um simple reading of this could be that
the plaintiffs who have decided to go along with this case are responsible for further school
shootings yep they're engaged in a cover up of the things and the school safety at sandy hook
and what have you words mean yep definitely follows from pronoun reference you know how
pronouns are are important to language and understanding them yes you use the pronoun to
refer to the people which is why even if you don't say their names individually for instance say
you didn't say the name of every single person who had a relative at sandy hook so sure but however
you did use a collective pronoun to describe all of them meaning you are talking about them
words words words oh so um yeah we're not done talking about this i am i am shocked i am i'm
genuinely but he's supposed to be a lawyer boo boo boo boo boo but he's supposed to be a lawyer
and he's doing the thing jordan he's supposed to know this is about nuclear war i forgot you're
right hold on i wrote that down at the beginning yeah it's been a long time since then yeah no
we're going to talk about uh more conspiracies about alexa so let's raise this in closing
hit the russian news and let you go have a great job our barns you watch the trial i don't know if
you caught this part you covered most of it live and it was viral chris maddie the democratic party
operative literally gets up there over an hour and brings up how we gave them total discovery
we're not allowed to say we gave them discovery of the 287 thousand emails with key search terms
they gave weeks after they file suit on us in 2018 we're sent a bunch of emails saying i want to
get you i want to hurt you we're going to kill you alex jones for sandy hook and embedded because
we're not tech people there are secret embedded links just links to child porn so we turn the
email over they know how to scan them and magically find the secret links highlight with your cursor
gets up there and says okay you filed a lawsuit against the young turks that you filed just to
get them to stop saying i'm a child pornographer and all this he said yeah it's true the FBI said
you didn't do anything it was sent to you you didn't open it well then an hour later he says so you
did send child porn let's just admit it you did it so he wanted to cover himself earlier knowing
for clips on the internet they would later say it i said wait you just said earlier i was innocent
so imagine the evil of that that's not what alex said alex said yes yeah alex fully understands
what maddie was asking him but he's pretending not to because he doesn't want his audience to
understand the situation yeah maddie was asking alex about how he had sued the young turks over
statements they'd made about sending child porn to the sandy hook plaintiffs lawyers this was meant
to really make it clear that when he's on the other side of things alex fully understands how
damaging defamatory claims can be and that he's more than willing to sue people for making such
claims happily maddie was very clear that the fbi had looked into it and the emails hadn't been opened
and they were sent to alex and they were turned over unknowingly which is why alex felt in the
right to sue however if the claim was just that quote alex jones sent lawyers child porn and emails
then that claim is technically true yep it wasn't intentional and alex didn't know what was in the
emails but those emails did get sent from alex's team to the plaintiffs and they did contain child
porn this is what the tweet uh said that was included in alex's complaint against the young
turks which is why maddie was making this distinction the thing that alex was suing over was a statement
that was technically accurate but was suggestive in a way that could lead to reputational damage
this was all to illustrate that alex's posturing and defiance in this case are decisions that he's
making and that he's more than happy to use the courts as a weapon when he feels aggrieved even
if the technical claim that was being made uh and being called defamation yeah is strictly speaking
accurate in this case if they wanted to file a free speech defense towards this uh the young
turks maybe they could have fought their their first amendment rights or whatever yeah well i mean
they could have gone to court and maybe they would have won or lost but they would have had that option
in this case it is not that case yeah i don't know everything that's said in the videos on the young
turks because i can't imagine them making the kind of claims that alex is saying they did but it would
be really weird in the uh bit of the lawsuit that maddie brought up in court it was just the claim
that is technically true right um right but yeah so alex it's just a it's just a um illustration
of alex's willingness to uh use this these things that he's pretending to not respect when he's on
the other end of it absolutely because he's a piece of shit liar and the defense's uh lackadaisical
it is a generous word uh willingness to give over discovery you know we're just gonna give you
a million emails that you can't go through and we definitely won't go through them oops they have
child porn well so alex if you'll recall early on when this happened yeah alex uh decided that
maybe chris maddie had done this sure and he speculated about these theories with norm paddice
sitting at the desk with him on air where alex is clearly drunk yes um and hey guess what alex
is back to that theory uh oh so imagine the evil of that to know how to secretly find secret embedded
invisible images i'm not saying he did it he said i said that i didn't say that i got a highlight with
your person i didn't say chris maddie did that i just said it's very suspicious
and then at the end he comes out an hour later and says the jury he sent child porn to the families
man i mean he this is unbelievable these people are unbelievable robert they had to use high tech
systems were told to scan 280 000 emails and they scanned them and then they reported us the fbi for
the information the fbi said we're not guilty because we never opened it but i mean this this
this doesn't look too good i no doubt what what i mean alex is just dancing around this doesn't
look good uh no i i mean that's again another factual statement i don't know i don't know who
he thinks this looks bad for apparently uh the the plaintiffs attorneys i doubt it but i'll just say
this how do you get 280 something thousand emails and then scan them for secret links
and then they find i mean it just it doesn't sound good well there was a lot of concern at
the time as to what the source of this was and whether it was somebody aligned with the plaintiffs
lawyers allies the lawyers uh what was it it was attacking us for standing hook in it
yeah i mean exact i mean it was it was they sought information that was guaranteed to produce
stuff that you didn't even know existed oh my god this is all so suspicious what yeah i mean they're
just getting closer and closer to like come on they did this that it was a setup i was never
really sure about what was going on until he waited like 45 minutes an hour and then said but you did
send child porn and look to the look to the jury and i was like oh my god you just did it he did it
right there he did it right there well and he completely misrepresented your public presentation
about that what you said was whoever sent that child point information you would like to have
outed and and and so i said whoever did it a million dollars and then he spun it that i said he was
doing it is this you did you just did then projection you did like five seconds ago it's
always a possibility i mean you said he did it i'm not saying he did that he's a nice person
what i mean yeah i mean who knows who knows you just said in a i came to a revelation tone of
voice that when he asked me times you did you you said he did it he did it right there he just
no one know what pronouns mean pronouns just non-existent for these people how can they be so
mad when people change their pronouns and they have no concept of what they are ah but look
alex doesn't think that mighty did it all i know is that he completely misrepresented at the time
how that came about and he misrepresented in court your public presentation he made it sound
like you stuck his photo up and pointed to it and said he wanted his head on a stake all false
that's all false that's just that's just a lie it's just one more lie that i don't i don't think
maddie sent me i don't think maddie sent me that and we didn't say that at the time all i know is
the whole thing's disgusting all right five minutes i'm gonna be the floor unbelievable
un fucking real yeah i mean if you're listening to this what do you come away with
what do what a how confused would you be uh by what point is this guy trying to make i mean
and i think i think anybody would be justified in thinking oh the conclusion that i'm supposed to
go to is that the plaintiffs lawyers did send alex this yeah but he's saying no no he didn't
rise like sort of a facetious way of yeah not getting himself sued again i think he's a nice
person yeah that did it that didn't no i won't get sued see if you say you they're a nice person
after you defame them by claiming that they secretly uh maliciously sent you child porn in
order for you to send child porn to them uh and then are part of the conspiracy to convince the
families to go along with a fake lawsuit i think what you would come away from with this broadcast
is that the sandy hook thing was a false flag run by the democratic fucking party and because
they need to finish alex off they've planted uh stuff in his emails and so to recap alex is being
sued for claiming that this so we get to russia a little bit sure why barns barn says some ideas
let's barn scott to say i think his his idea is basically just to fucking give most of Ukraine
to russia it does like that uh the parts of the country parts of ukraine that want to be part of
russia should have uh should just allow that to be part of russia in the dispute finish it go on
no there's no reason for continued backfiring economic sanctions that are going to induce a
great reset agenda in the western world the pound has dropped to the lowest level in 40 50 years
the euro has dropped to one of the lowest levels it's ever been they're having a fuel crisis in
europe they're having a food crisis in europe that food crisis is expanding to other parts of the
world the net effect of this is going to be really ugly that the west war on russia has failed
even henry kissinger has acknowledged this it's time to do as trump suggested do a deal cut a
piece deal get out so uh if we look at what's happening in china the relevant and pertinent
issues are alex is gone has there been a change of the guard you've got five minutes point it's just
you better use all five but some of the rumors because i gotta be forced by sudden flight
cancellations in different places yeah so barns then uh now he has to spin some wheels
and so he's like oh hey i saw a meme about china oh my god you realize alex said i'm going to give
you five minutes here's the floor it is still a little rude yeah for us to just be gone unannounced
that's fair yeah he was hungry also i love i love that this is just how things work yeah you can
invade a country and then you can hold a referendum to see if people want to vote to uh to go and it
could be a totally fair election and then it's part of your country now yeah it's all right barns
oh yeah i mean i'm i'm i'm amazed at barns is a foreign policy acumen yeah i i i think
basically what he's saying is uh guys in ukraine i understand you want to be people
but the euros low so you're russians now what if canada invaded like wisconsin uh well we
got to give it to him right well if they wanted to frankly wisconsin could vote to become part
of canada tomorrow remember whenever that civil war happened why didn't the south just say fine
we you own us so anyway barns leaves um and this is two and a half hours in yeah alex is a little
bit upset about russia sure but man i mean it's hard to estimate how dangerous this this this russia
situation is i mean this is crazy all right i've got some other news i want to hit on the economy
and on super mega cities in the new world order when we come back so yeah we you know we had other
things though too you know super mega cities sure sure sure sure okay i thought this whole
thing was about it was i did too but it was um an hour plus of barns yeah oh like probably an hour
straight of ads yeah i mean look this show is mostly ads listen to some of this bullshit
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if you haven't watched npr pbs you're a lucky man or a woman the old days they had some pretty
good stuff but you know they have fundraisers every quarter when what what are you talking about
for a t-shirt or hundred dollars for this or seventy dollars for you know it varies for a
coffee cup everybody watching knows the coffee cup costs five dollars everybody watching knows
the t-shirt costs six dollars with our silver you know it costs like 30 something bucks but
you know the point is is that it's a memento that you supported and you were part of that
so the communists have taxpayer money to fund npr and pbs we don't have that we don't have big
sugar deadies we have you so that's why it's a fundraiser coin if you're a founding member you
can get it for nine nine dollars if you're not a founding member of the other three coins or one
of the other three coins it's a hundred thirty dollars and the money is needed desperately to
fund our operation that's why we're signing signed copies of the great reset and the war for the world
for nine nine dollars because we need the extra money desperately
please don't let me prove how much trouble we're in and how much trouble you're in
by us imploding or shutting down we need your help now i thank you i appreciate you
infowarstore.com or triple eight two five three three one three nine and again a lot of this is
no brainers look at these three products sold out from up to a year in the case of dna force plus
it just goes on and on and on like they're they're like maybe a bit earlier in the episode
even they're just long stretches like this and i was listening to this and i was like
i can't imagine watching this and being like man this guy gets it yeah he is on the ball
like how is there a value in this as something to observe i don't i just don't know i mean i
didn't put in a number of clips about like how alex is like aha matt gates has been vindicated
right right there's that news uh apparently biden said something weird you're getting a little bit
of these news things sort of just vague proclamations of nuclear war coming and then so much petty
grievance about his his trial right yeah i mean we've we've seen this exist you know like cults
people who've escaped cults or you know like scientists and that like you know they'll they'll
come back and they'll say like the leader of the cult we would every day he would just talk yeah and
we would all just sit there and listen and it didn't really matter what he said you know it was just
about the basking in the my father is is proud of me i suppose you know i guess there may be
something to that because you know you hear people who are like i've been listening for 10 years yeah
how to what yeah what do you hear yeah you know what how can you handle your brain being jostled
all over the place like that but anyway we have one last clip here and this is how alex ends things
this is so sad and we're shipping out within 24 hours of you order monday through saturday
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nine now here's melinda french gates giving a little speech 55 seconds here it is for the tireless
work she's doing to help steer the world through covet 19 for being an extraordinary champion for
global health and for the immeasurable inspiration she provides to girls and women around the world
including me i am thrilled to present the 2022 global goalkeeper award to a remarkable leader of
our time Ursula von der leyen that's the head of the european union and you see that rainbow
melinda french gates that's the symbol of the great reset and the bill deberg group and their
spokesperson claus Schwab and the we have so literally cutting off europe literally pushing
force inoculations any questions whether melinda french gates as a globalist are absolutely destroyed
what these are huge where was she these are depopulationist you can't just say that killers
of the very worst magnitude there is
all right i'm gonna end the broadcast yeah with the first eight nine minutes of end game
blueprint for global enslavement oh god you fucking piece of shit he's like i'm talking
melinda gates is bad again so uh i gotta go watch a little bit of my movie oh my god that is
fucking it's so lazy that clip was not about her knows melinda gates giving an introduction to
Ursula von der leyen who's the head of the european commission right yeah and there's no rainbow
swastika it's a circle there's a circle he just called it a swastika for no reason well it's a
circle right yeah i don't i don't know i can't imagine anything more trivial than so much of
what he spends his time with yeah but at the same time i think that this episode is deeply
troubling uh barns's behavior i think legally it's deeply troubling i i i'm no lawyer i'm no barns
but this doesn't seem okay i i mean i just don't know what else to i don't know what else to say
yeah you know i mean i think that i'm no lawyer but i do know a little bit about decency right
and this is past that mark right right you one might say you do not know karate no but you do know
crazy yes sure um so yeah i hope there's some consequences for this because this sucks yep
yep yep yep this has got to stop but somebody's got to stop this but this is what alex had to
leave kinetic it for somebody has to stop this it's it just can't keep going on it's barns
is barns came on to do and he did the thing he did the thing yeah like there's no not saying that
he didn't do the thing yeah he did it i i do wonder if there's some um some sort of a cushion of
whatever he was saying uh in terms of legal defensibility i don't know i i i i i think that
it's disgraceful behavior absolutely uh he should lose his license yep absolutely anyway
jordan we'll be back indeed we will dad um but until then we have a website we do it's
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