Knowledge Fight - #730: August 12, 2003

Episode Date: September 30, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan put Alex in timeout and dip back to 2003 to see what Alex was up to.  In this installment, Alex desperately tries to pretend he's being forced to cover Schwarzenegger's run for CA governor, and interviewing a weirdo named Paul Revere.

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about Alex June, oh indeed we are Dan, Jordan, quick question for you, what's your bright spot today buddy? My bright spot today is the turning of a season, the turning of a season, fall has sprung or however we put it, sure, and I, it's getting a little chillier, right, maybe, I think it's a little chillier in my apartment than it is even outside, weirdly, yeah, that is true, but I don't mind, I like, I run hot generally, so I don't mind a little bit of cool weather, in the past, the cold has always signified one thing for me, what's that, that cranberry splash Sierra Mist is right around the corner, I did not know that that was cold based, that

was a seasonal variety of Sierra Mist, cranberry, is it returning, I don't know, I think it probably will be sometime like closer to December, it's more of like a wintery thing, I see, but I've realized that there's a new thing that's been incorporated, pumpkin spice Sierra Mist, no, okay, but it is an indication that I think I'm getting old, and that is, I got so excited, I was at the Walgreens, and I saw that they had the soft Werther's Originals candy apple variety, and I got pumped, so excited, yeah, that is a sign that you're getting old, it is fall, I am shocked that you didn't immediately like give it to a child with a little piece of wisdom as you walk down, just like, yeah, this is, can't have

it, I mean them all, that's fair, that's okay, now we're back to young, leaning out the Walgreens of all of them, there's a couple other flavors too, that I may try, there's a maple and a cinnamon one, that I may try, there's also a pumpkin, but I'm not into that. Are they allowed to call those Werther's Originals, considering they are clearly not original? Well, the caramel is. Well exactly, I mean those you can call Werther's Originals, but what do you call the maple one? Werther's Innovatives, Innovatives, I like that, I don't know, but it's great, congratulations fall.

I mean, I suppose Werther's derivatives would be a little bit more accurate. Yeah, yeah. All right, send old man Werther an email. I'm gonna get, it's time, it's time somebody handled this. Don't think you can go through email, you have to send a telegram. Right, right, right. What's your bright spot? My bright spot is that my partner and I, we've kind of been on a fitness week.

We've been exercising, going to yoga class every day, doing the whole thing, and it feels good. It's feel, you know, people like to exercise, you get your heart rate moving. Definitely. It is like, there's certain spots, you know, I'm not like, oh, I'm an old man, I'm 35, but there are certain spots of my body that are speaking. You're not Werther's Originals. No, I'm not, I'm not telegram old just yet, but like there, my knee is 68, like it's that

kind of, that kind of situation. So it's, it's, it's good and also very difficult to do one of these with my shoulder. Sure. That hurts a lot. So I imagine the shoulders and the knees are things that take a little bit of a hit. There's more wear on that than on some of the other parts of your body. You are wrong. Well, but it's been good.

That's good. Yeah. I wish you the best with that. I don't know what that feels like at all. Yeah. I have no memory of motion. Someday, someday, someday five. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

Yes. They decided after our last episode, where we talked about Alex's weekend excursion with Robert Barnes, right? Where Barnes committed the crimes. Yeah. I decided I wanted to put Alex on time out. I don't want to, here's the thing, we, you know, we've been watching the trial as it's progressed through over the week.

And this week has been a lot of family testimony. Yep. A lot of people telling very moving and difficult stories of their, you know, their loved ones. Some, some very heartening and bright stories about their lives and, and then horrific tales of the abuse that they've suffered. I mean, yeah, it is, it is a emotional roller coaster that is, is like so extreme. You know, you, you see them cry in with, with smiling, happy tears at the, at these joyful memories and then you are, and then it's, it's just a, oh, it's intense.

It's intense. And one of the things that I keep hearing a bit too, like that just, just, I don't know, maybe will haunt me is the, the sort of consistency that you hear people describe one of the effects of the abuse that they get as like almost a denial of their self. You know, like being asked, oh, are you related to this person who died at San Diego? Nope. That's not me. Right.

You know, having to deny your sibling or your, you know, your child. Just for the sake of like, I don't want to deal with the possibility that they're one of those people who wants to yell at me. Right. Right. Um, it's just, it's dark and, um, and challenging. I appreciate that these people are getting this opportunity, you know, and it's very important, um, but I don't want to cover Alex's stuff right now.

No, you know, like he did as bad of a thing as he could do on Saturday. Pretty much. I can't think of much more disrespect that he could give. Um, and I don't want to be like, we've talked about this. I don't want to be an Alex Jones, uh, Chris Hardwick show or whatever, you know, talking Alex, yeah. Yeah. We're not a recap.

Yeah. And you know, he can go on time out. So we're going back to the past. Yeah. I don't know if he could get worse, but I don't think I'm interested in seeing him try. You know, like I've, we're, we, he did, and he and Barnes stepped across that line last episode to a point where I'm like, why aren't we all suing them as a country as a, as a species? We should get together and like include fucking Reese's monkeys because he's probably defamed

them too. Like we should be all suing him and Barnes for what they did. Class action. Yeah. Exactly. Yes. Yeah. And that's not to say we're not talk.

We'll not talk about like Alex at all as the trial progresses or anything or his present day stuff. No, of course. It's too much. Yeah. He can, he can go sit over there. And we'll talk about the past. So we're going to talk about August 12th, 2003.

Okay. Continuing our path through 2003. And I got to say it's just what the doctor ordered it. I don't want to say, okay, I often resist the urge to say we got a banger. Right. Okay. All right. This was great.

Okay. There are two things that happen that are just, man, they're restorative to the soul. Okay. All right. In terms of like, if you're listening to Alex Jones stuff, this is the kind of episode that you need to be like, Oh, you idiot. So I'm glad to be able to provide that and enjoy it. We will get to that in just one moment before we do.

Let's say hello to some new walks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, a long time wonk, first time listener. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Next, I listened to your backlog on a drive from California to Minnesota and only made

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Thank you very much. Now, Jordan, before we dive into this episode, here is a fun out of context drop from today's show. It just so happens that I look like a potato right now. Just so happens. Just so happens. Just so happens. You wonder what kind of apropos of nothing I look like a potato.

Just so happens. I look like a potato. As luck would have it, I look like a potato. I mean, as far as an intro to that statement, it really is a non sequitur that drives you insane. Yeah. It just so happens. I mean, it reminds me of Lewis Blacks.

If it weren't for the horse, I never would have spent that year in college. Yeah. And you're like, I need so much more information than that. Well, you'll get none. Okay. So here is where we start. Alex is in the mood where he wants to talk about big stories, but he can't. They're being shot and killed and granaded and dying in their barracks in Iraq.

They're dying in Afghanistan. But that doesn't matter, folks. Wall to wall, everywhere, all anyone is talking about is Arnold Schwarzenegger running for governor of California. And I know that he's charismatic. He's good looking. It's interesting. He's played this archetypal Hercules character of literal.

Yeah. He's played actual Hercules image of him being the super male stamped on our psyche and there's some better than the German powerlifting champion. A lot of folks don't know that. He's also an atheist who makes in his in several of his books that I've read. All right. So I think that literally everyone knows that Arnold was a powerlifting guy. That's how you that's what he is.

He was Mr. Universe. He's the thing that that is. Yes. Also, Arnold represented Austria, not Germany. Yeah. Yeah. That's a small point. Different countries.

Did you know that dance? True. Alex is not. Also, Arnold is not an atheist. He's a very public Catholic. Yeah. You may remember that his daughter Catherine married Chris Pratt a couple years back and there's a bit of a public reckoning with the notion that not only Pratt, but also Arnold's

daughter were pretty traditionalist Catholic. Yeah. Yeah. You may also remember that Arnold is married to Maria Shriver, famously a member of the Kennedy family notable for the fact that JFK was the first Catholic president of the United States. There is that. Shriver's mother, Eunice was JFK's sister.

Right. Right. I also have no idea what kind of books Arnold was writing before 2003, but looking into it, I found mostly bodybuilding memoirs, which checks out and actually Alex does touch on this later. That is what he's talking about. Bodybuilding books. Oh, that's what makes him an atheist.

Yes. Well, he apparently mocked God in those bodybuilding books. That's because God can't lift weights as well as fucking Arnold can. We know this. I guess. Come on. So there's a really fun thread that goes throughout this entire episode that is like Alex is like, there's so many big stories to cover, but oh no, I got to talk about Arnold and no one

is making. I don't think anybody's making him talk about Arnold, especially not doubt. He seems very put upon that he has to talk about Arnold. Well, you know, he wants to talk about the horrific nightmares going on and I can't do it. Can't. No. I got to talk about Arnold.

Yep. Okay. Arnold said decades ago that he wanted to run for president or that he wanted to be the head of a national police force. And there's a good chance he'll end up being one of the two because he's in with the Illuminati. Right. He's married into the Kennedys and we will address Arnold Schwarzenegger or Arnold the blackhead.

That's what his name means. I'm sorry. What? Oh, okay. Means Arnold the slave. We'll discuss Arnold the Austrian a little bit in this hour. Well, it looks like Alex is a bit off on his prediction there about Arnold. Uh-huh.

Seems like he was just governor of California for a bit and now he makes videos with animals in his kitchen about how Trump is bad news and how he loves the people of Ukraine and the people of Russia. Yeah. He seems like he's having a way better post 2020 life. He's killing it. Yeah. Another point.

Alex is totally wrong about the etymology of Schwarzenegger. He's assuming that Schwartz means black and the second half of his name. Well, you can guess where Alex I'm pretty sure that's where he's going with that. That was a popular piece of incorrect information that was flying around at this time and Alex saw it probably in a meme or some dumb blog and then just decided to pass it along to his audience as gospel. Sure. Sure.

Sure. That's white dude shit head stuff right there. Yeah. In reality, the name comes from his ancestors being from a place called Schwarzenegg, which is in modern day Austria. This does mean black in this case and egg is derived from the word meaning a ridge. Schwarzenegger's name means person from the black ridge. Point here is Alex is stupid in most of the things that he says mean absolutely nothing.

Yeah. But he feigns this kind of like expertise or like this depth of knowledge that he has or just really just like it's nothing. It's the confidence with which deliver absolute made up nonsense that just no matter how many times it happens. There is a reason con men have confidence in the name like you back to that layer right you see what's underneath and it's usually like oh just dumb shit. You don't like I don't even think Alex probably thinks this is dumb.

He probably believes that that's true. Yeah. Of course. Why wouldn't he because he never takes time to look into anything. So we need to. He's got Schwartz right. I think he feels like 50% is is like I did that you know that's fair. So we got we got Arnold on the docket now he's very important.

Yeah. This is for governor. Yep. But Alex needs to take some calls because if you if you remember on our last episode he was in John Stat Miller's studio and so he couldn't take calls right. So now you got to get to these calls. This is very important. Also movies are real.

So I do want to take time out to go to those calls today on any of the news items any issue any global story national story most stories something that you think is important that I should know about or some propaganda you saw the nightly news or in a sitcom or drama or in a movie because that's where more of the new world order program is is is shot at us than any other places in the mediums of fiction on television and in print as well as movies. So anything you want to discuss it's it's wide open phones if you disagree with me. If you want to confront me you want to say that I'm a liar and that government is wholly

and that government can do no wrong and that it's conservative to turn your guns in. I disagree with that. I believe it's not conservative to have open borders and to turn your guns in and to be Florida abortion. But again I'm one of those old fashioned conservatives. So that's that's the way to disagree with you. Because I have to call in and say that the government is wholly and yeah way. I can't be like hey maybe you're just wrong about stuff.

This means like this feels straw manny I'm I'm I'm going to guess based upon the length of time he's drawing out call me that maybe the show isn't as busy today as he might have you believe so much he has to really feel like I'm starting to think that maybe he doesn't have that much to talk about. Well you'd be fucking wrong. I really don't think I would be well here's all the stuff he's not going to talk about today. We'll talk about Colby Bryant we'll talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger.

We won't talk about the three dozen level four bio weapons labs are going to build around the country. Why not that the Baltimore Sun reported the government said they're going to build systems that produce thousands of gallons of liquid death and they've had monkeys and stuff escape from these in the past stuff that makes West Nile and smallpox look like mother's milk. No time. We won't talk about doesn't have time how all the microbiologists that are in race specific bio weapon production who are all dropping dead we won't talk about that no time we won't

talk about how they're putting in systems to shut down all the highways and walk down all the cities what if I call in and talk about this and bring in foreign troops publicly to oppress the American people who won't talk about how they're openly building FEMA camps everywhere and how it's in the mainstream news can't do it feel like he's drawing this out. We will not talk about how there's been more bombings in Israel or how you could be talking about it now in this space no time applies their organs being called pneumonia pneumonia doesn't lick liquefy your internal organs folks Ebola does no it doesn't liquefy your

internal organs. We won't talk about how UNESCO the UN organization that runs our public schools that books are on to an increased funding for says that the family is the enemy and quote must be destroyed and is a quote disease quote no time we won't talk about how they're putting cancer viruses in the vaccines sounds like he's got a busy show if he can't talk about all this stuff it's the equivalent of talking about what color to paint your toenails when you're two inches from running your car off of a cliff over a 5000 foot ravine with spikes at the bottom but we'll talk about it.

So look I want to talk about who put the spikes at the bottom of that ravine if you were played Mortal Kombat yes on the yeah yeah yeah totally put those spikes down there Shang Tsung did same guy okay Shang Tsung's got a guy yeah okay so look it's all Alex's choice what you don't know if anybody can stop him if he's so mad that he's like hey I gotta spend time on Kobe or Arnold Schwarzenegger he should have just like chosen to cover what he wants like his audience is clearly captured in the sense that they aren't going to leave him if he decides not to cover celebrity stories that he explicitly believes are beneath him yeah they'd stick around whatever it's purely his choice of the thing that he wants to talk

about and he wants to talk about this because it's easy yeah to pontificate about like celebrity type gossip style stories yeah yelling about Arnold Schwarzenegger is easier than you know like what he just did there is covering these stories for him right it's touching the surface of it and that's all he wanted to do yeah exactly yeah he has nothing more to say about any of these stories anyway no yeah so just touch on it and move on make it sound like you're you're above but no I have to oh I'm so mad I have to talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger but the people demand that I do it it's okay I mean I love the idea like in a tragic sense this is that that almost uh Twilight Zonian you know like the TV journalist who's always stuck

talking about I don't want to talk about the cat stuck in the tree you know I want to be a real journalist and then they capture the audience so they can finally talk about what they want to talk about but realize that all they're capable of talking about is that cat stuck in the tree right like it's a tragic situation right and ultimately that is what they want to talk about exactly yeah yep so Twilight Zone is great yeah this is Alex's black mirror exactly so um which is actually what Arnold Schwarzenegger's name translates to so um Alex takes some calls uh he gets a call from a guy who's been given out a bunch of his tapes now I know that we know from listening to Alex a show that the success rate with those tapes 90 plus north of 90 north of 90 yeah let's see what this

guy has to say okay well I've given out hundreds of your tapes and 50 percent of the people are lethargic and don't care they they they're just lethargic they just don't even they don't even know they just they watch it did you watch it they said uh yeah they would watch it they go they just have a blade look in their eye and they don't have any comment the second thing I do but they're not even they're not even in the ball game that's true they're a bunch of spectators so I just feel sorry for them they're like lemmings uh what about the other 50 percent that that that that that listen 50 per I'd say 25 percent a quarter of the 50 percent they care they're passionate about it talk we share videos we swap videos and we get involved the other 25 are scared to death and I

think they're sitting on the fence they don't know what hey hey three percent one the revolutionary war okay your tone is a little different now yeah yeah yeah yeah 90 percent of people who watch my tapes are waking up right well you know we only need three three percent is all we need though like we're happy you that 90 percent happens so first point those 50 percent aren't lethargic they're polite yeah that's number one no they're lethargic no they're sleepy they don't have the energy they don't want to fight to get it up actually maybe they are lethargic they're too tired to fight you about their nonsense you specifically not the tape itself they can take the tape yeah that's fine and I noticed second thing that Alex is doing here where he's like

those people are they're not even in the game yeah so I wonder if Alex is 90 percent excludes people who just like don't even want to bother I'll watch this but I don't want to talk about it right this is stupid I don't even want to fight you on this so if those people are removed then you're artificially creating this imaginary 90 percent sure by excluding all of the people who don't even want to talk to you right right just great I mean it is seems like a cheat okay if you were say you're downtown you know hanging out your mixtape trying to get people to listen to your demo and 95 percent of people don't even want it don't even take it right but some people do take it and the one person who comes back to you eventually is like hey man that was really good

that's 95 percent of the people that have listened to it probably so you've got a 95 percent success rate right that's math if two people take your tape right and oh boy two is too small one person comes back and says it's good right but you've approached a thousand people sure that's 50 percent success rate ah that does sound right to me something like that something like Alex is cheating the numbers yeah so earlier he said the movies are real and film is real and all this stuff that's how they talk to us and he wanted people to call in if they've seen so if you see something say something if you've seen a movie that tells me a secret about the globalist that I can pretend to know about I need to hear about it right um Alex is mad about this uh dynamic because

he has to watch tv to get these messages yes of course but he hates tv he doesn't want to watch it no because it's evil exactly but he has to watch it well they send messages he can't rely on the audience to constantly tell him everything all these messages that they're seeing in the television okay if Alex doesn't watch tv are they still sending alex message yes through his listeners who call in and tell him about episodes of things that they've seen now why has not why hasn't alex made this like real attempt you know like let's try and change the globalist behavior right so I won't watch tv or talk about tv or let my audience talk about tv and if they still want to get messages to me they will have to send them through a different medium well here's here's the actual

answer to that okay it's not just messages that they're sending to alex it's also like you know demoralizing the public through the messages and stuff so even if alex isn't watching the globalist would have every reason to still do the same naturally naturally so he's just monitoring for these right humanizing demoralizing messages that they can send him messages is more of like a side uh you know bonus little bonus game that we can fuck with alex and the messages that they're sending are mostly the demoralizing things which alex experiments or experiences as them taunting him got you so there's that that that two-way communication right anyway we had to talk more about that episode of frazier that's a good idea it's a problem for me because i need to watch

the news the television phrase i need to track and trace what they're doing and look at the propaganda and i still go to some movies i i watch videos listeners send me a specific stuff it has been four weeks and counting i watched it while you were out with my wife last night when i got home and i was reading bloodlines of the illuminati again by fritz springmeyer again while she was watching while you were out where you know you do the repair the house or whatever and i i didn't even like that uh so i got a major too many globalists hate television so much and now uh it's good to the point where i can't watch it i mean it was becoming that upsetting when we talked about you know the frazier episode where he joins the gun club and uh his family his

friends all criticize him and what's wrong with him this is crazy this is evil you know it's not bad and he could do anything else but this was bad and uh well then at the end he goes into the basement and there's the gun club huddled around something whispering he says what's that they don't show what it is but they say oh it's it's a machine we're building to to defeat the new world order and he screams in horror sees it and runs out they don't show you what it is but the message is there's these secret groups they're armed they own guns that's a sign of being a terrorist they want to bring down the government and and and and frazier was criticized by his whole family and it turns out he was right see he fled out of the building and uh you know anybody that's into

guns and talks about a new world order is dangerous you better run screaming from him i mean i couldn't watch a movie i couldn't watch a commercial i couldn't flip channels it just wall to wall evil i can't handle it anymore vote turn it off then dick dan everything must be made with my particular trigger warnings alerted to me in advance he does frankly he does sound a little sensitive he sounds a little bit like he's triggered well look alex hasn't seen this frazier episode he's just taken a little misrepresented details from paul joseph watson's interview on yesterday's show right and then he's made up uh details to create a better story out of it he has really basic plot points wrong like how it was niles not frazier who got into guns or

more importantly that it wasn't a gun club it was that niles and his dad went to a shooting range the bigger aspect that alex is really missing with this episode is that the shooting range guns are treated as totally normal safe and actually fun frazier's dad has a routine of going shooting and niles is a stick in the mud but after firing a gun he realizes that it's really enjoyable and not that scary nothing about guns are even an issue that the episode makes look bad it's the people that he met at the shooting range that are weirdo new world order dudes and that wouldn't have even really been a problem except they were trying to get niles to come to their compound in idaho which is why frazier's dad was worried in the first place

it's the compound in idaho that's suspicious not the guns frazier is portraying guns as a legitimate way for a father and son to bond definitely you know that's like a real thing like alex could be fixating on that and saying like look look the new world order is that even the new world order is like you know or uh like fine recreational activity sure absolutely isn't that what you want people to think guns are i mean at best right maybe isn't that what they want so also they weren't making a machine to fight the new world order it was uh and it wasn't in a basement they were at that gun show and the dudes were looking at blueprints for a generator that they were going to need once the new world order took over which is what clued niles in

that he shouldn't go to idaho with them anyway the point is that alex doesn't even watch tv to find these evil hidden globalist messages he just hears secondhand retellings of plots and then makes up stuff so he can ramble to his listeners about evil hidden globalist messages that aren't real yeah yeah they're not real dumb i i mean i think what's funny is that now you know back then if i saw that episode i'd be like yeah it's because those guys in idaho are gonna be crazy you know that kind of thing and now it's like i would run away from them just because their stories are really boring they're just they're made up they don't that you weren't actually in the war whichever one you're pretending to be in now you're imagining details into this episode of

frazier oh i am yeah that was no they were just nice guys i'm i'm imagining the bundes that's what i'm imagining i understand that but that wasn't part of the episode just for your the bundes did not feature heavily in a frazier episode no which would have been a true prediction yeah so alex takes takes another call and this person also wants to talk about his film of course and this is kind of frustrating alex at this point if if we were to choose to copy two of them which would be your choice probably 911 the road to tyranny and 911 the road to tyranny 911 the road to tyranny 911 the road to tyranny state three total enslavement police state three total enslavement okay alex hey thanks a lot keep up the go ahead it's it's tremendous well thank you so you're it's

it's you're you're seeing an effect giving people the videos well that's great um again i don't really i'm not mad at claire for dick you guys are great but i don't talk about my videos all day well that's what no they are having an effect and maybe somebody wants to comment about arnold arnold because i thought you were the one diversion oh my god you got to respond to the diversion see you understand what's going on here fuck you alex passive aggressively you set up the show talking about how i've got all these big things talk about but oh we got to talk about arnold expecting then to open up the phones if everybody would want to talk about arnold and that would justify his like oh i've got to talk about this i have to talk about love to talk about these

important issues but of course but then the callers aren't going along with it so now he's frustrated yeah that they aren't i wanted to talk about arnold god damn it yeah and so he comes back from break and he's trying to neg his audience into telling him about arnold he's just a little bit uh frustrated oh all right i do have a bunch of news we haven't even gotten to yet but hey we're not going to talk about it we're going to talk about arnold all day and how important that is why we're not no one wants to know literally nobody wants to know nobody wants to talk about your big news absolutely come on dick what are you doing the only thing i kept thinking as this was going on was like well this pageant is not working the game he's trying to play is just

completely laid bare in front of everybody that is so pathetic yeah so as i was listening to this i was like oh that's the ball my needed on a week like this where uh you don't want to talk about alex in the present day you hope to go back and see something like this happening on his show because it's just delicious yeah this is a this is a fantastic uh tripping up the stairs and falling into a pie situation yep yeah so uh alex has some other news uh not in that laundry list of things to sure this i don't i don't think this is true uh because it's not those that just joined as a caller in the last segment mentioned that the american bar association just voted last week to strike down the attorney client privilege notice they always called it that does that

and this means now in any case uh that you're a lawyer when you're there giving them information or preparing your case we'll go report on you uh to the prosecution and to the judge now that is a 180 from what america was founded to be but it doesn't matter they'll wrap that to the american flag and say we're not patriotic if you don't do it this is uh yeah this isn't true that sounds that's that's such a great like oh if this were happening i'd be furious right yeah well no i agree it's not i imagine this has something to do with there being some exceptions to yeah attorney client privilege like if you're trying to witness tamper or like destroy evidence or something like that or if your client's like hey you want to commit a murder with me later

your attorney doesn't have to maintain privilege if they're trying to be involved in a crime with you or whatever right that right the uh the crime fraud provisions uh allow for that to be breached i don't know lawyer man lie for me i can't do that i mean i have to tell people that you said that sorry man or you even don't have to you could just you could just remove yourself as attorney but you can break the privilege in those cases i don't know anyway there's other news uh look we you know again we're not going to talk about how they've announced they're going to build three dozen giant level four bio weapons labs that produced stuff worse than smallpox so you're taking another swing at this than anthrax super weaponized abola super weaponized smallpox see

a level three is just smallpox or anthrax a level four is weaponized see now this is why i'm saying he just when he lists off the things that he's not going to talk about that is him talking about it yeah that's all he's got back to it and it's just the same thing yeah and also what he just said is so not true if alex actually thinks that level four labs are for weaponized things that explains a lot of his dumb ideas but he's just making that up the distinction between level three and four are that things that are studied in level four labs are quote infectious agents or toxins that pose a high risk of aerosol transmitted laboratory infections and life-threatening diseases for which no vaccine or therapy is available both use very high levels of safety protocols but understandably

for things that are you know studied in level four they need greater controls right smallpox and abola are absolutely not level three pathogens they're studied in level four labs yeah he's just he has no idea of the things he's talking about i i'm in and i'm just gonna throw this out there i'm the globalist i'm trying to figure out where to put my weaponized uh uh stuff i'm not just going to give it a blanket level i'm not just going to be like oh by the way to the whole world in case you're wondering all of my level four laboratories that's where i weaponize things right take a swing take a bite at this apple alex totally level five level five it could just be level five but that would explain why there's no records of any of this it's all clandestine

make it a secret level boom i find if there was a weaponized lab level i wouldn't tell people about it it would be a secret it's a slam dunk yeah yeah come on alex there's a whole another level for that uh do better uh so look there's another really fun thing that happens on this episode the first thing is that arnold charade falling apart sure delightful one wonderful first hour of the show just what a chef's kiss absolutely there's another really fun thing that happens for the like the last hour of the show he talks about a different episode of frasier i wish yeah it's you do it's fun in a different way yes unfortunately there's some anti-semitism we got to get through on the way there now there you go this uh is weird alex is upset that people

are mad at the passion of the christ still for sure and he says something strange okay and oh but but mel Gibson makes something wholesome and his dad comes on this show and talks about decent wholesome things is the passion of the christ whole family is listeners of this network we appreciate them listening and there i got articles today the film is going to be boycott about the southern pulmonary law centered the adl because it shows the Pharisees calling for christ to be killed well that's not anti-semitic i mean jesus was a semi palestinians are semi the jews are somitic just means you're from that area i mean that's how crazy it's gotten jesus is now racist folks and they actually say that in there that the that the new testament is racist and there's

moves in europe to ban it i read the bbc news articles because christ points his finger at him and says you know you're evil you're corrupt you're of the devil was talking to the establishment Pharisees talking about the jews as a whole he was talking about jews that didn't accept him ah i see boy yeah yeah yeah not he wasn't talking about jews just the specific subset of jews that don't agree with him the setting off an ability for us to hate them for the rest of our lives i don't understand what that what what's a problem there uh-huh no big deal what no he just chooses to hate every jews oh no now i'm getting it yeah yeah so there's um we've talked a bit already about the passion of the christ and the the problems with it yes mel Gibson's dad so many problems

so many problems holocaust denial and such he's still allowed to be in movies um and so yeah but that the way alex is framing that there at the end is bizarre yeah that is i i just i don't understand how these things can just uh they can come out of his mouth and he doesn't recognize hey this is what i'm saying you cannot say things yeah there are things you can choose not to say yeah yeah so uh we have one more clip before we get to the really fun thing um and it's alex reporting on a story that is not and then they got the world of wonder channel four it's not world of wonder that's a production company channel four is the person is the group doing it over in um over in england where they're going to put a bunch of 10 year olds together to have

sex in a in a in a in a house and that's normal and that's horrible sure would be oh oh sir would be his minded and the scotland yard diversity unit may arrest you did you know now that the scotland yard is arresting people uh if they criticize that that's absolutely horrible yep scotland yard's diversity unit is going to come after you if you criticize an alleged show where they put 10 year olds in a house to have sex with each other i mean i that's ridiculous it's just so i i do appreciate that that is kind of the bread and butter of radio though there's a little bit of like did you hear this did you hear this in the news i i read recently don't quote me on this i read that somebody somewhere in some government said that they were going to replace the sugar and

ice cream with bird feces what can you believe this terrible it is the government out of control okay they've run amok i will say though i recently went back and i was watching all of the agatha christy uh puoro yeah episodes yeah and there was one where puoro and kernel hastings were sitting around having a conversation and chief inspector zapp came in and he was just uh complaining from a hard day of sure arresting people for criticizing the show about 10 year olds have to say ah this is just monami he's not french he is belgium so um we get to this yes alex as a guest it's actually two guests okay um but he only is really giving an inner kid and play i wish oh man that would be great have a house party yeah that would

be great um but no it's a guy named paul revere not real name yeah well i would yeah i want to say one thing really quick if i'm alex jones i'm not accepting bookings from people with aliases no no especially it's paul revere i can't trust you come on man so paul revere i trust carpe talk to more than somebody who changed his name to paul revere you're a liar yeah he's a pastor of sorts sure and alex recently heard him on another guy's show this guy named john anderson who's a a guy i think he has a voice of ministry or voice of truth or something it's another show on genesis one of those um and so paul revere uh has some thoughts about romans 13 now as we know romans 13 is one of the things that um christian folk like alex are really mad about right because

it's this uh it's this scripture that's uh they think is gonna be used by the new world order to convince everyone that christians need to submit to authority and what have you so right right they they believe that this is a twisting of scripture and they're very very upset about they're real mad about something in their book yes yeah so this is what paul revere's bread and butter is um i will allow alex to give an introduction and then i have a fun uh story to tell you here we go i'm about to go to my guest here in a few minutes but let's keep them on hold for just a second because i want to introduce them first and then i want to plug my videos uh paul revere is a well-known minister non-establishment minister in the us and they

have their peaceful community attacked by tanks and smashed and crushed and he was chased through the woods by him and all that happened and since then it's changed to the woods much larger we're really talking about romans 13 and how the churches uh say that we're supposed to follow all orders of the government the government is basically god um this was one of hitler's most favorite things to promote and say it's taken totally out of context the new bibles are being edited and changed and altered in amazing ways and so even if you're not a christian this is very interesting because it's kind of that orwellian memory hole where history is being altered all around us and in front of us and i heard mr revere yesterday on the year with

with john anderson who is on the network i know a lot of people don't agree with him some do i'm not getting off into a debate about eschatology versus uh other interpretations of the bible but i do agree with um with mr mr anderson about his comment that a lot of the churches lie down and say we're not supposed to be involved because you know uh jesus is going to come back and do it all for us this is very important to understand what's happening inside the new world order so put a pin in alex's disagreement about eschatology right right right here we go might come up later ah man you know you know if your book can just like but be edited and then that's it then it wasn't that holy of a book in the first place you know

well um there there are some arguments you can make on that front um i would rather focus on the fact that um you have pre and post-trib rapture ideas sure and people who believe different things about that tend to fight with each other they get real mad because alex is not a pre-trip guy you got to go through it to do it this might come up oh now i want to talk about paul revere okay all right here we go so he was on uh john anderson's show talking about how roman's night uh 13 is bullshit yeah and that's fine i don't care i'm not interested in that we're not gonna argue what i'm interested in is the scam that revere was working that he doesn't bring up at all on this show okay and i don't know if he thinks it's a scam i think he doesn't okay part of paul revere's philosophy

is that you are a citizen of the country that you're born in and when you're reborn in christ you are now a citizen of heaven that's something i can go along with as a metaphor but i need to make it clear to you that revere means this literally are you going to tell me that he is going to sell some sort of citizenship passes well he runs a church called the embassy of heaven and there's a reason it's called the embassy he gives people passports to heaven through his website he sells fake official documents no he claims can be used instead of us government documents like a passport a driver's license because you're a citizen of heaven or even enrollment in quote mutual assurance which appears to be some kind of fake insurance okay all right

also there's uh business licenses to cars so he's creating an alternative government and just calling it heaven wow at least the like documents office of it yes i appreciate that so beyond selling fake official documents which is probably illegal oh it's so illegal revere has also created a bunch of fun civic information about the country of heaven for instance he takes things that are mentioned in the bible and then uses them as official symbols of the country oh that's nice i have four things okay uh that i'm going to ask you and you have to guess what they are okay what is the national musical instrument of heaven oh this one you should be able to get i i mean you know you could go with the liar right you could sound so much like liar that's true

well actually i think there's probably a number of options on this you could also go harp you know right right but harp see i was going to think harp but that's that's not going to draw people into your embassy of heaven everybody already thinks the harp in the heaven it's a trumpet oh it's a trumpet there's a lot of trumpets in the bible yeah that's fair what is the national animal of heaven the dove no that's the national bird national animal national animal why didn't i think of why is a bird in it i i i lion no as lamb lamb of god oh fuck off what are you breaking me shut up next one third uh you're o for two so far yeah i know i'm not doing great on this i'm gonna get kicked out of heaven right the national dance uh ooh the lambata for it is

forbidden that's forbidden leaping for joy leaping for joy yep it's the dance just national dance of heaven okay all right um and then final just last one supposed to guess leaping for joy it's a good dance oh you're not wrong so uh national song of heaven i mean what uh why not ode to joy hmm that would be that would be an interesting choice it's traditional it's my country tiz of thee explain to me how that is possibly the first it doesn't even fit the pattern what are you talking about everything else is stuff that's mentioned to the bible it has my country tiz of thee sure and the name of that song is actually america yeah i was gonna say my country tiz of thee yeah

and the dude who wrote it just stole the tune from god save the queen it's basically a parody song all right okay oh boy um so yeah this guy's got a website called the embassy of heaven and it's a lot born in the heaven he has a whole section about his encounters with police yeah that's that is the type of thing that you would experience a lot if this was your church yeah so he's driving around one day uh and he sees some cops sure and so he pulls over this is after he had gone to the post office because he had to do some official business right for the hey i'm gonna throw this out here embassy of god embassy of heaven white guy um i think so i only have seen a small picture of him but i would i would guess so um so he he um he goes down

down this street and uh quote at the same time quinn start thought uh a city of slayton police officer was traveling north on center street and recognized the embassy of heaven vehicle he decided to intercept us after circling the block he realized that we were headed out of town toward the embassy we were about three blocks ahead of him and he traveled at a high rate of speed to catch up with us after leaving the city limits i turned on to the long driveway of our friend's place quinn also entered the private property and turned on his overhead lights we stopped in front of the garage and quinn pulled up behind us i opened my door and started to exit the car quinn stepped out of his car and yelled for me to remain in the car rather than cause a scene i

remained seated in the car and closed the door no as quinn was talking on the radio i asked rachel how to handle the situation she had no answer we both realized that it had been five years since being stopped and i was pretty rusty two unmarked cars arrived within moments one of the persons in the first car was the chief of police quinn approached the uh my side of the car and stood slightly behind me he asked to see my driver's license and registration i asked if he was tape recording and he said he was not rather than answer his question i stated i am an ambassador of jesus christ for the kingdom of heaven i'm using the highways in the kingdom of heaven in the performance of my official duties to evangelize the kingdom of heaven according to the great commission all right sir

i'm gonna have to ask you to step out of the car i had declared my intent which showed i was operating under the highest authority yet quinn ignored my statement and repeated his question may i see your driver's license and registration i want more i want more info about how he rates a chief of police stop as well like the chief of police is also in the small town or not actually the chief of police possibly be made up fair enough i was not quite sure how to handle the situation so i said that i needed some time to think about it quinn said he would give me a few minutes and he returned to his car and talked with the undercover people when he returned he asked me if i was paul revere i responded by saying yes i am paul revere clearly a figure about oh my god oh man that's the moment

that's the moment if i'm paul revere i'm like everything i've ever worked for just paid off in that moment when the cop goes are you paul revere yes you better believe it sir he then asked for a third time may i see your driver's license and registration probably a little bit slower this time i have responded i have documents at the embassy of heaven and i also have documents with me if i give you these documents will you uh what will you do with them uh and you responded if if it is those church documents i will not recognize them okay well i guess that settles it step out of the car you're under arrest so this is this is uh how his run-ins with police yeah yeah that sounds about right and i was pretty curious about this

story because i was like why did you get pulled over in the first place right and then i scrolled down a little bit further and there's a section here and the title of the section is heaven plates removed that's kind of what i was waiting for i was waiting for some sort of heaven reason being the like dude you you've lit your own lights up with candles that's not how cars work again get stop it he made his own uh embassy of heaven license plates which is uh gonna get you pulled over that's gonna happen i'm amazed he made it a couple years without getting pulled over but the way the guy's like are you paul revere i imagine maybe there's like let him go no there's there's absolutely there's no doubt in my mind that he gets away with that just because the more

you the more you bother him the more he's gonna bother you and you're like it's more proof of his own persecution complex and yeah i don't know what you do it's also proof that all of these laws are fake and made up and are only enforced based upon the willingness of the law to enforce itself upon us dan do you know what i'm saying you could just say no to the cops i wouldn't do it so while they're having a conversation about romans 13 uh everything is going good and alex believes that these are smart smart people hmm and i know that we've got and others that are patiently holding i will get your calls early the next

and i'm interested to see how paul revere and john anderson respond to all of them those are both very intelligent men and uh are definitely saying a lot of things that are different than what we hear from a lot of the mainstream folks uh out there we're just trying to get folks to think here hell yeah let's think i don't think they're gonna get people to think i'm thinking about some stuff yeah are you i'm thinking about um all right so here yeah we have this guy paul revere right and he's on with john anderson they're clearly associates they seem to like each other he's been on anderson's show sure and paul revere believes that uh the united states doesn't exist or at least he's not beholden to any of these laws because he's a citizen

of heaven it doesn't anybody who's born again in christ should be a citizen of heaven so he doesn't really care too much about america right right the founding fathers sure well they're you know the constitution wow and maybe this comes up uh oh john anderson you were trying we're trying to make a point here uh about roman's 13 and uh what the king james version clearly says and how they take it out of context there go ahead okay here's an example alex uh i think will serve to uh show the point if i ask you because you deal a lot with this to name three uh founding fathers right off the top of your head who would you name pomas jefferson george washington thomas okay exactly what if i named peter john and paul

going in when we read the bible with the preconceived idea thus we come up with the wrong answer yeah man your small minded thinking about america no no no the country was founded by the apostles that is that is such the the fucking ecart holy like giving a speech way of doing it let me ask you a question who are your three best businessman oh yeah i'll tell you who mine are jesus christ himself okay all right man all right okay yeah pretty good pretty good so this is where things started to feel like this could get this could get messy i'm not sure where this is gonna go and uh quicker than i imagined uh it did get into ideas about the rapture well and uh they are not on the same page here we go now for just a moment and as you know i'm a

preterist uh the voice of reason uh teaches preterism period as far as eschatology or last things which means past fulfillment now but let's say for a moment that you are a futurist one that believes the book of revelation is yet to be fulfilled hey well we gotta break we gotta break stay right there look all i'm saying is i agree with paul revere i agree with you about roman 13 that's clear the talk about the other stuff when you get back i don't know about that so here's the thing to understand this is not even an issue of post or pre-trib rapture he's denying that the rapture even happens because he's saying that the book of revelations was already fulfilled yeah by jesus is coming yeah the entirety of the the all that prophecy is already

it's already done the devil's gone we banged it out now we're now we're we're waiting to get our passport to get into the cony island of heaven mm-hmm or that no cony island elisa i was thinking of cony island that's the one i was thinking of for sure i get a get a grazed papaya of heaven yep so um helix can't handle this and one of the reasons that i really feel coming through strongly is that alex needs the devil and yeah this will put to bed very officially whether or not alex believes in a literal devil in 2003 i like it because he definitely does ah and there is such an aversion on his part to living in a world without the devil right he needs the devil sure i mean once again reinforcing my belief that he is the actual satan worship here you know based

upon what he describes satan worshiping people the noises they make are the noises he makes well i think you know like it's it's the way it works i think it's not worshiping the devil on alex's part but i think the devil is something of a comfort blanket for him sure which is very weird it's somebody else's fault you know i need to have these guys on i guess uh when we're not in such a hot news cycle of all this worldly stuff that we uh track here but i heard him yesterday talking about roman's 13 and i've been to sunny school i've read the roman's 13 out of the king james version and you look at what the whole chapter says and it's about the church and how the church should behave and how the church should be governed and how you should you know how you should behave and

then they take it and they translate it and change it into worship the government follow any orders it has to say and hillar use this uh and it it's just it's so good and then john anderson who's a preterist they believe that you know in 70 ad that check out that slave bible now all have the you know that jesus finishes work and that uh now the only evil that's here is evil a man and the devil's gone uh hey we want to talk about this that's fine we can take calls on the issue people are saying well wait you know we're gonna have a religious show this affects the psyche of the world folks whether you believe in god or not this affects the psyche and i know a lot of these big churches can't stand up against evil because they say oh we're about to get you know taken out

of here and it's not a responsibility my bible says it is your responsibility to stand up against the works of darkness to speak out against evil to fight corruption they're not disputing that really right they are still bad it's just bad people who are doing bad things yeah who are outside of this kingdom of heaven that exists on earth like there's still like an obligation to be a good person and be opposed to bad things yeah the bible doesn't go away for omens i mean yeah right yeah it's um it's interesting and then alex is trying to twist it to now to be the post trip uh pre-trib idea there with like these churches that are saying that we're about to be taken out of here that's not what these guys are right they're different see this is the type of

shit that makes me want to like really get people to understand why christian nationalism is bad you know like sure you say you want a christian nation but are you a futurist or a pretorist you know like yeah what are we what are we doing here because you don't fucking know what christianity fucking is yeah the breakdowns of like really really aggressive disagreements it is insane right i mean it's the same thing with like all right i want statehood and state sovereignty right it's like all right i'd like to introduce you to the king of texas uh oh oh no well now i don't know if i want that right oh i didn't think about how this could go wrong yeah there's a unforeseen consequences yeah um but yeah it's just i think that alex has an idea of how things operate and the way his

mythology and the cosmos to him it requires cosmic evil right it requires the bad guys on his side not be bad people doing bad things or good people who are at parts of bad systems or neutral it has to be something of this mythological good versus evil struggle and you can really just i that's what i feel coming through in in his opposition and i tell you i listen to the show and it's it's confusing because i agree with some things they say i see the problems with the modern church that says lay down the corruption go along with it and then i hear these guys saying that well i've heard them you know say these guys that you talk about the new world order all day i get sick of it i heard anderson say yesterday because because you know the answer is right here in our hearts and

souls and minds uh if we just come to christ we wouldn't have an evil society well you said it best there's still gonna be evil people they're still gonna come in army tanks and try to kill christians just like they do all the time so i've got to expose china killing christians i've got to expose the government kidnapping children i've got to expose them putting cancer viruses in the vaccines because that is saving lives and we are saving lives so you know this is very confusing stuff and and and i know to you guys it's not confusing that must be very comfortable place to be in uh but uh i'm i'm just very confused alex is confusing himself yeah because they're not saying you shouldn't talk about or talk out about any of those things right certainly it's just that

maybe the new world order isn't the devil right right i think i mean like you know deep down my feeling my feeling on it is alex finds it very very comforting to think that there are people that can override you know what i'm saying so like no matter what at the end of the day you've got a i don't need to take responsibility for my actions card you know what i'm saying like that's why the devil that's why god exists is because at the end of the day i am in their you know sway i'm just part of their little struggle or whatever it is you know sure i don't have to look at myself in the mirror and say i'm responsible for every single thing i've ever done i'm in the arena but it's their arena exactly you know yeah um i think there's something to that

and then i also think that because alex is so obsessed with this idea of this tyrannical one world government it's the entire world and it's like all right what's above the world well it's got to be cosmic forces and the devil and stuff it can't just be like a president of the world as a human right right we can't have that no that's dumb so then there's the other aspect too that i think that is narcissism based and that is alex sees himself as such a conquering hero right that he must be up against the great evil in the entire universe sure sure and have some kind of hubris that thinks he can actually defeat this devil right right right um and i think that it would be unsatisfying for him to just be like somebody who's like okay i see a problem i'm

going to work towards an actual solution to it you know okay yeah you you know oh you rebuilt someone's house after a natural disaster or something well then well then now what do we do do we fight somebody that's not i mean there's gonna be a devil somewhere do you do you like do you kill the devil now is that what happens next it's not as gratifying to to like sort of be a part of working towards helping and solving real issues yeah it is gratifying to imagine everything you do whether it is productive or a mistake or stupid all of those things are part oh or you're misinterpreting a frazier episode there is that all of that is fighting the fucking devil i mean that is a grandiose way to live your life uh and i i imagine yeah and you know if you're

someone empty with with that kind of narcissism you know the devil is his nemesis it's not as arch enemy you know like the arch enemy you would be fine defeating that would be nemesis you would feel yeah exactly if he defeated you right he'd be like hooray we defeated dan you know like we got him but if he defeats the devil he's like well then who's gonna push me you know who's gonna make me more holy that kind of feeling it's his nemesis it's his knife sharpens knife but it is well that's not how knives work no and also there isn't a second knife it's an imaginary knife yeah i don't know air sharpens knife so this this aspect will come up more later this absence of the devil in their worldview and how this is like incompatible sure but the not liking america

thing is great yeah this is so fun here we go where do you stand then on the founding fathers uh of this country uh standing up to england i mean because again this is where it gets real confusing well it's real simple alex if you take a look uh well from scripture jesus says that good seed produces good fruit uh bad seed produces bad fruit i don't like what this is doing bad cannot produce good gregor mandel would disagree well what did the the united states the people the deus of that time those who referred to as the founding fathers of the country in america where did these people come from not all deus now the majority of them were and i you know we're really don't need to third some of the prominent ones were all right a third one from

all the famous ones what the fuck do you what kind of why any response is that okay well most of them were you gotta just quibble anyway so he's saying that good cannot come from bad right and he elaborates on that here okay point is they came from england it was a teenager who had grown up and said i want a piece of the action i don't want the mother country to rule us we want to rule ourselves so that's really where it came from therefore they were fighting their own kin uh they were fighting uh but they wanted they wanted to be a teenager that grew up did it come out of ecclesia did it come out of of the kingdom of god now it cannot possibly have it came out of the world and they even in their own declarations declared uh we take equal station

among the powers of the earth well i'm glad they did what they did or we wouldn't even exist right now now we don't know that oh come on you're saying that oh come on jones and uh paul revere you're even named after one of them uh wouldn't have existed i mean look we wouldn't exist right now it was obviously god's plan i mean do you think god just just just turns things on and and just turns it loose they did i think he did in fact at one point he repented that he even made man and he desired to destroy the whole world um get um why are you worshiping that guy real quick real quick you you said your god was like oh i should have killed everybody i don't i don't want to worship that guy wow i mean he does make a good point to alex's you know it's a

bottle it's absolutely it's a fine rebuttal it is a fine rebuttal yeah uh so yeah apparently to obviously if you could understand anything about what these people actually believe you would know that they can't possibly be in favor of the united states no the founding documents yep the founding fathers uh all of that stuff but here's what's interesting about this a lot of the beliefs that you have could still overlap because according to alex so many of these things that are in the constitution are actually god-given rights and so they preclude or they predate the um right the the constitution right uh those are things that the government cannot do to you as opposed to rights that they give you so coincidentally if he believes or if like

paul revere and john anderson both are like everybody should have all the guns they could still believe that with or without a belief in the constitution right right right but i don't think alex would ever let the conversation get there right because it's so much he needs the constitution right in the same way that he needs the devil he needs that in order to have his god given right right or whatever but he doesn't actually care about the constitution he cares about the idea of the constitution that he's created like he doesn't like all of the constitution and if he had a few parts he doesn't like he'd like he'd scratch him out there's a couple of you know like it's it is a stupid stupid conversation whenever he's like no the constitution is in

violent i mean i would get rid of this amendment i would get rid of this part i don't want to deal with this freedom of religion get that out of here we should also uh outlaw the democratic party exactly like okay so why are you arguing with him about whether or not the founding fathers were 100 right about everything because alex is on his back foot he doesn't know what he's doing so stupid interview he shouldn't do so stupid so uh look there's no devil but wait do you mean do you know that well that's what uh john anderson believes okay by the way paul revere barely in this interview yeah it does seem like it's on anderson alex arguing with each other okay uh but alex wants to know if there's no devil why do people worship the devil good question you know i know

this it's not the devil pulling my strings but again according to john anderson and i guess paul revere the devil isn't even around anymore let me ask you guys this question and really i respect you i'm not a real attack that that is according to scripture not according to john anderson well hold on what i'm trying to ask you here is this why did the world leaders go to the bohemian grove who worship the devil why does arnold's figure go check me the devil still wants to talk about i hope for five years of my life uh i went through the nonsense i came to the truth of the lord jesus christ in january of 1979 you know i've met people that think they've talked to rocks alex uh they think they're channeling just that so on and so forth people have a lot of strange ideas

i found myself in a very bizarre position where i am laughing my ass off at paul revere believing that he's a citizen of the kingdom of heaven and he doesn't laws don't apply but he and john anderson make a lot more sense than alex in this interview i know i know i really do i really do want to fight him i really do want to throw a rock at his face well so people talk to him i mean those rocks hey listen listen i've seen people do all kinds of weird shit like for instance one time i got pulled over by a cop because of i believe in some weird stuff i started talking shit to him to be fair this is john talking about paul revere anyways but the the uh the question if the devil doesn't exist why do people worship him and the answer being people do a lot of weird shit is

like well i don't have a rebuttal to that i know that is true so but you do a lot of weird shit god damn it right there is that and i'm i'm i'm pretty sure that if i knew more about either paul revere or john anderson yeah i would not think that they come off as rational and no no of course and obviously even just from this website i don't think paul's got a good head on his shoulders nope but alex cannot handle very basic things that john anderson is throwing at him yeah it's pretty not good but john did bring up that he used to be involved in the occult and this is going to be a good way for alex to try and be like maybe you are the devil yeah maybe yeah oh no they can't bond over his previous being in the occult it has to be that's not true

where maybe it was just like well it's not for continuity right now no no no yeah well john i didn't know that what type of occult stuff were you into oh i was involved in uh basically pseudo satanic it was what is called a non-blood cult we believed in basically the adherence of the golden dawn the great white brotherhood sure what i worked as a professional psychic i'm the one that made the uh prediction to larry flint bungler number six that there's been an attempt on his life with 30 days 23 days he was shot in larrisville george that made national headlines oh really how'd you do that if there aren't spirits and things out there it's called a lucky guess alex you know i think alex john i have told him you're right damn damn alex do you not understand that the point of

this story is i no longer believe i was psychic alex you realize the point of this story is that i am telling you i am not actually psychic i do not have the powers of a psychic i believed that back then oh how'd you do that without spirits well i didn't do it the thing i said i didn't i wasn't a psychic so again that's delightful that is i think one of the reasons is he has alex who lies about his predictions in order to appear prophetic in some ways right i didn't look into this so i don't know if john anderson actually did make his prediction yeah but assuming that he did he's disowning it as some kind of a like feat of his brilliant so you say as a lucky guess yeah that kind of like it's refreshing to see a poll in juxtaposition to alex although i'm sure john

anderson is a wild lunatic oh yeah yeah no doubt there it is it is fantastic it is did you tell larry flint this what's going on here he just predicted it he just predicted it i don't know i don't know what's happening it does feel like maybe we're in different like spots of the lie con about your your predictions like he's like ah no no no that was my old grift like maybe alex we see him in 10 years on somebody else's show like ah i don't predict shit anymore i used to lie about you know like where are we in this grift this guy probably isn't saying that it was a lie that it was some kind of a psychic prediction maybe it felt like it to him then sure but he got lucky really right if you think right right right you know it i i would see it that way he's not disowning

necessarily the fact that he did say this and it came true just that there's any meaning to it right right right it's coincidence yeah not a lie no right i mean did he get paid for it he made the national news and sell it there we go so look there's another problem that alex has what's that all right fine if this all happened in the past why isn't the devil in a cage that's a good question satan was destroyed as he said he would do when he came that's why he came that through his death he overcame the devil okay where was the devil in a cage for a thousand years for people to look at him and say that's the guy that did all this okay first of all you're going to revelation 20 and you're taking the quote literalistic 999 years plus one you just did a literalistic thing too

so it's all circular just circles and circles no it isn't no we're both doing it i'm not that's why ah i can't do anything oh boy oh it's almost like we're both walking in mud i mean it is it is a little bit like you guys are so close to stumbling on that you're arguing about imaginary nonsense and it's very silly it is oh we just keep going back and forth because there's no way to settle this argument based upon made up nonsense from thousands of years ago i would i would say i don't want to believe in either of these people's ideas no no that said forced to choose between the two and we grade on a curve because this is alex you know we're listening to info wars and so you know alex you know all the shit that he believes in well so this person comes off looking pretty good

just based on not being a wild liar i'm i'm liking his passport's idea say well again paul yeah john okay that's fair uh ringo also okay all right all right so there's uh all things being equal i'll take a world where there isn't a devil running around as opposed to one where there is and so already john's idea in his world is far more appealing to me yeah it seems bizarre to want to hold on to the idea that there is a devil yeah but unless you need it it does it does seem like something he needs that he absolutely could never be able to process in like an understand it like he can't understand no i don't want the devil and he's like no you do you do but you can't process that yeah like you just can't understand it and you can't you just can't deal with the idea that

the devil's dead and i want to back up just a second but uh on this whole satan issue it's not what i'm saying it's what the scriptures teaches the problem is many good god fearing christians don't have a clue what the bible says okay right now you're talking to one he brews 214 for as much then as the children are partaking deflation but he also christ likewise took part of the same that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death that is the devil did he fail or did he succeed but you talk about looking at it did he fail or did it explain whoa now that's a nice lawyer tactic this direction is this an immigration hearing for the heaven country what's happening right now objection um these that's before the

courts of heaven though we've got years before the courts of heaven shows up oh yeah i wonder if they're integrated those courts are part of the right embassy of heaven right right right well the courts have to notarize uh all of the documentation to get into heaven these are not notarized documents um there have to be a notary uh not public divine notary divine or something yes i know i know what you're starting searching for this is great alex has no rebuttal to this no because it is okay uh you know scripture tells us that uh you know satan will be defeated by jesus's sacrifice on the cross did he fail right right yeah to that question he's he's he's he's introduced the thing into a religious argument that you just can't do which is a yes or no question

an up down question cannot happen in a religious argument especially one like that where it's like well no matter what you answer yeah screwed yeah you can't maintain your position and answer that question there's just no way fun yeah the only way to answer that question is to not answer the question yeah now it's bizarre that i mean like at this point in his career it's so weird that alex just like does this yeah like he doesn't hang up on them he doesn't end the interview he just gets kind of petty and child like yeah a little like i don't know yeah like a lawyer trick or something and i think that there is a desire that he has to be seen as strong in these settings right to his listeners sure but this looks very weak right he doesn't come off like somebody

who can defend his position yeah he reminds me i mean this is fairly early on like this reminds me a little bit of those early debate bros on on like the twitch platforms or whatever the the debate bros who would go in there with a freshman level philosophy audit to their name and and like just try and argue with people about religion for a while and it didn't matter if they're obviously stupid arguments look stupid they just clowned on them yeah or or um stand-ups who were like pretty early on wanting to tangle with hecklers or something you know man there's a there's a desire to like appear above or like having like like stood up to something comedian destroys heckler but there isn't like in order to counter the things that this guy believes you need to first of all

understand what he believes and then second you're gonna need to unpack this entire idea of heaven being a country yeah and you don't want to do that no because it's way too complicated yeah your audience is going to you're gonna lose some of them mm-hmm and you're going to reveal that those are the sorts of people you're going to take seriously on your show yeah and that kind of i don't know demeans the entire show yeah and i think he learns that if you're interviewing and taking seriously a guy who calls himself paul revere and is the head of the embassy of heaven and sells fraudulent documents to people like passports yeah you kind of can't take yourself that seriously and you would need to reveal that in order to actually have the conversation that alex is wanting

to have right and um yeah he's just stuck and and because of that he just has john anderson asking him these trap questions that he can't get out of oh man it's great that's why that's why later on he's like i'm not doing that anymore i would assume yeah i will hang up on you if you challenge me so weirdly later on uh as the tea party grew uh paul revere would come back up uh as somebody who worked for fema paul revere worked for fema he was a he was like a pastor that wasn't recruited by fema in order to get them to preach romans 13 oh my god everybody which mysteriously isn't in his backstory here yeah and i would have to assume based on his lack of any documents his clearly fraud church um i don't think fema's gonna be recruiting him into any kind of pastor initiative

i'm interested to know about a conversation that happened what meeting room did it happen where they're like man we cannot find anybody to preach the correct interpretation of romans 13 in our fema camps nobody will do it there's nobody that we can get to preach romans 13 as a means of submitting to the fema camps right so we need paul revere a guy who's made his entire career preaching the opposite of it and selling people fake passports yep yep yep one passport if you want to enter by land two passports if you want to enter by sea yeah yeah so we have one last clip here okay um alex doesn't get to the news uh gotta let you go and i'm sorry we got loaded phones no more time for calls uh again this is a news program and i just think it's very important to address

this because the romans 13 is clear and i agree with our guest on that that it's been twisted and that's big news that is big news big news so we have all those stories that alex didn't cover because everyone wants them to talk about arnold and he spends like over an hour talking with these dudes yeah because the real big news apparently is that romans 13 has been twisted yeah what yeah that is that is a curveball it is but there's one thing that's important to remember what's that and again folks whether you believe in jesus christ or not this is not a religious show i'm a christian i make no uh secret of that but the point is this affects you this is not a religious show this is not a religious show now we're going to spend over an hour talking to a weirdo pastor who calls

himself paul revere believes he's the head of the embassy of heaven yeah um but it's not a religious this is a show that touches on religious topics okay from time to time and has transformed a mythology of uh the united states into its own smaller version of christianity itself thus making my belief in the country a religion along with my belief in the state is a religion along with my belief in this house being a really like he's a religious man well this this is not a religious show okay but all right we will spend over an hour discussing religious stuff in a desperate attempt for me to cling to my belief in the devil yeah worth it worth it and dan here's what you don't understand what's that this affects you it it made me laugh

it affected me in some ways it did affect you um in the literal definition of the word yeah um and i think it was a nice uh reprieve as it were from uh present day bullshit yeah this felt good yeah a little bit of uh you know you can maybe that shoulder is feeling a little looser now jordan it's a little bit better i feel like i just got some icy hot on there just doing it right it's a therapeutic effect of shot and fried now that sounds about right so if you are you know watching uh alex's trial and you're you know thinking that he's on to something remember that his career is meaningless and this is sort of bullshit that he does you got it anyway jordan we'll be back uh probably check back in on the present day uh on monday perhaps oh um yeah

we'll see we'll see um but until then we have a website indeed we do it is knowledge fight.com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am wilford snibble snabble of the gribble pibble and now here comes the sex robots andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you