Knowledge Fight - #734: October 9, 2022

Episode Date: October 12, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how Alex is doing while he waits for the jury to return with a verdict.  In this installment, Alex reveals that his cousin is an arsonist, announces that everyone's ...losing their job in a few weeks, and celebrates Kanye saying his name on Tucker. Citations

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George knowledge fight. Need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding us. Hello Alex. I'm Mr. Tim Collier. I'm a huge fan and love your work. Knowledge fight. No, no, no, no, no, knowledge fight.com.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. A couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed. We are, Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today, Jordan, is I took a little walk down to the mailbox to drop off some buttons that will be making their way all around this great world of ours. Naturally. And I'm walking back to my house. I see a corner store and I decide I'm going to go wander in there so I can find a good snack. Where was it? On the corner.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Oh, okay. Right on the corner. Good news. Very easy to find. Excellent. Fits its name. Important for a corner store. Yes. So I go in looking for a snack. I love novelty. I love things that, I'm drawn to things that I haven't seen before.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Of course. So I bought like this Apple energy drink that I still haven't tried yet. Wise. It sounds. Does it fear? It doesn't make you fear? What? I mean, it seems fearful. Are you, I didn't know if there was a reference to something or if you're just asking.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I'm asking you if you're afraid of it. I'm not afraid of it. Okay. I'm just, I maybe need a specific mood for it. Actually, I'm not feared. I'm not. I'm not scared. I'm worried that it's going to suck a little bit.
Starting point is 00:02:19 But I also got, and this is my bright spot, these Arizona Arnold Palmer half and half fruit snacks. Those wound up being your bright spot. Well, here, I want you to try one. Okay. I'll explain why it's my bright spot. All right. I need to. So you almost people don't listen to people who are just listening to this don't know,
Starting point is 00:02:38 but almost every time we do an episode, you have an Arnold Palmer half and half iced tea. Indeed. I do. And so I saw these and like, God, Jordan would probably be interested in this. And so I, I looked at the packaging and I couldn't tell what the fuck it was because this is, you know, an Arnold Palmer is half lemonade, half iced tea. And so I'm like, are these supposed to be iced tea gummy bear or gummy fruit snack things? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And I couldn't tell. And so I was staring at the front of the package. Yeah. It gives you no indication. No, whatsoever. I mean, other than you're like, Oh, it's an Arnold Palmer. That means that there's iced tea. There's got to be iced tea.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Well, but it should say iced tea fruit snacks. It should. It needs to. It needs to because it shouldn't be like it's still vague. I thought the idea was nuts. I thought it was nuts. The Arizona was making fruit snacks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:29 That's a good point. So I think that they're fine, but not great. But the bright spot is the confusion. Yes. That moment of staring at the package and being like, is this half iced tea, half fruit flavored fruit snacks? That is what you are getting novelty for. That's what you're up about.
Starting point is 00:03:46 You're about the mystery. It's been a long time since I've stared at a package, read everything on it and been like, I know this has to be half iced tea, but it can't be. So that was fun. And yet how can it be? I'm baffled. I'm impressed. I'm impressed with the hustle.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I respect the game. Of course. But the product itself isn't that great. Having tasted them iced tea. It's in there. It's not. It's not like a strong iced tea flavor. But you know it's there.
Starting point is 00:04:19 They went, they went hard on the fruit as was wise. I think some tea flavors are like maybe underrated in some other settings. And I think, you know, this done better could be better. I enjoy them. Yeah. I enjoyed the one that I ate. I'm surprised. So it's your bright spot.
Starting point is 00:04:36 My bright spot. Dan, you know, I haven't talked too much about the old baseball this summer because the Cubs are, I'm actively trying to avoid them. The ownership of Chicago, et cetera. Oh, no. Oh, you know the whole thing. I hear about it. Um, so, uh, but this has been, you know how last year I was like, oh, show.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Hey, I'm telling you put together the greatest season of baseball ever put together. He got better this year. What? He got better. Well, I mean, he's coming into his own. Exactly. He's a baby.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Exactly. He got better this year. I'm scared of what he's going to do next year. I think he's going to kill a man with his greatness. Oh, no. He'll just begin to glow. I mean, his hair is obviously. Super Saiyan.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Yeah. Obviously. That's what's got to happen. That means that freezes right around the corner. What if we end up in a situation where it's just, he's the whole team. Right. He could be. I do throw a pitch and then runs to field.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I genuinely believe that the ultimate baseball challenge now is cloning. No way. Otani eight more times and having him eight, nine hymns play against the best that the rest of the world has to offer at every position. You could have a one person baseball team because one side just has to hit. Yep. So there you go. Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And then the other side, well, I guess you need a catcher, but if you're a good enough pitcher, you don't need that outfield. Oh, no, no. You don't need people on the basis. If you're good enough, that's the legend of satchel page. He used to, while he was pitching in, in the leagues, you know, he used to be like, Hey, I got the next three and he'd send the entire outfield and the team behind him off the field.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And then he would pitch by himself. I did not know that. And he would strike him out three in a row, buddy. Wow. Yeah. What a, what a, you've got to really be confident. Singles a home run. Real dumb.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Real dumb. Cause you're going to, cause even if it's like a bun, you're going to have to go run for it and then you have to tag him. So it's going to be a home run. You got to strike him out. Yeah. That's brutal. That's an interesting question.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Okay. So if someone bunted and you run to get it and then you're chasing them, you have to chase them. Do you have to chase them by the path of the basis? No, you do not have to be in the base. Yes. You can cut across. There's a chance that's not a home run.
Starting point is 00:06:52 It's possible. It's possible. But you know, the pitchers aren't notorious for being the best at chasing people down and shagging them. That's true. Yeah. I do imagine a fun scenario where, you know, cause like when there's like, someone has the ball and they're trying to tag someone and they can run back to the
Starting point is 00:07:07 base. Yeah. Yeah. They're in a pickle. Yes. I imagine that, but like the runner would be able to go all the way back to first. Yeah. That would be one way to do it.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I imagine, I think I would prefer if this was more modern day and it was a bad picture that everybody knew was bad and he somehow convinced the outfield and the field to get off the field. He's like a five year old. He's like, Hey, listen, guys, I got this one. It would be awesome. Oh, that would be great. And then I'm the batter.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah. I hit a home run and then I crab walk around the bases. There's no way to rub it in. No way to stop you. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. Excellent. We're going to be talking about October 9th, 2022. That would be a Sunday's episode.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Some shit goes down. And there's some angles on this stuff that I want to talk about. Is the entire thing just him playing music and kind of mugging to the camera? God, I wish. Oh, man. You know what? That to me was a bit refreshing in some ways because it does harken back to like 2008 times when he'd just like rock out to songs and stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:22 There was more of a freedom. You know what? I've been thinking about this a little bit. One of the things that I hate about Alex's present day stuff is he is such like he chases attention so much. Yeah. Like I think social media fucked him up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I think that like, Well, I mean, that's not that's not unusual. I think social media fucked all of us up, honestly. That's true. But he's he's also got like an attention model that or a business model that's so based around totally capturing attention. Absolutely. I feel like it wouldn't have it wouldn't behave the same way in previous areas of his career.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Like his information would be just as bad, but he wouldn't be so annoyingly chasing down like X, Y or Z meme that he wants to try and like seem like to try and get a little bit of attention. Yeah. It's just it's I hate to say that it's beneath him because it's not. No, here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say part of the reason that he can get away with saying that or he could get away with saying he was above the left right paradigm was not necessarily his political
Starting point is 00:09:28 beliefs. It was also the complete lack of care that he gave towards like all of a sudden he just be like, Hey, listen, turn this track up, you know, like, yeah, you're above the left right paradigm. You're just having a good time singing along to a song, right? Right. Right. And the guests that he would have kind of gave that appearance to because they weren't
Starting point is 00:09:44 like meme people, totally and like Carpe Donkdom, it would be like boring ass people like G Edward Griffin or like Jim Tucker, like these boring ass old dudes, he gave the feeling if you're at a negotiating table with Alex about whether or not to listen to his show back then, he would have been able to walk away from the table. You know, he would have been like, fuck you, don't listen to my show. But now he's kind of got that like, okay, you don't like it now, but how about this? Try this? Have I introduced you to my friend, Laura Loomer?
Starting point is 00:10:16 Totally. Yes. Yeah. All right, man. It's sad. It's a little sad. Yep. Anyway, we'll get down to business on today's episode, but first, Jordan, let's say hello
Starting point is 00:10:25 to some new walks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, I joined to help Dan cover the cost of mailing pins and to tell Jordan he does a great job too. Thank you so much. You're an owl policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Pins, buttons, badges, so many words. You're going for it. Next, DJ Nose Blow. Thank you so much. You're an owl policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Fewer words.
Starting point is 00:10:45 That might be a cocaine thing. Yeah, well. Next, Gary Poupon. Thank you so much. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. My grandpa pretended that he came up with the Grey Poupon joke. The Grey Poupon, he was one of those guys who just kind of made a weird lie out of no
Starting point is 00:10:59 just like, oh, sure. It took a while for me to realize, nah, that's hard to believe. Next, me from the future. How'd that trial go? Thank you so much. You're an owl policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And hey, Brian. Demons. Thank you so much. You're an owl policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. So, first Dan's irrepressible guttural internal screams of bull shit. While Alex was on the witness stand.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Thank you very much. You're now a technocrat. Clearly they were rep susceptible, though. Well man, we didn't test them to the extreme because we did leave the courtroom the second day. Well, the problem is I think we would need to get it a laboratory setting to do that where we can remove the, you know, the founding variables. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Texas eat totally all of the things that could have gone wrong. Yeah. And I'm not a bot. I'm an asshole. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yes. Thank you. Jordan. Uh, Sunday episode Sundays for Sundays, the fun day. Sure. You know, soft launch day. Well, that is definitely a way that Alex has used some of this in the past and to like, try and feel some stuff out.
Starting point is 00:12:28 You know, whether it's sort of giving a, um, um, dress rehearsal to narratives. Focus group also, you know, like, it's a focus group of one. Yeah. Well, that's a good one. How does this feel coming out of my mouth? Yeah, that's a good point. Am I ashamed to have said this? Or how much am I ashamed?
Starting point is 00:12:47 Does this feel profitable? What is the threshold? So we got, um, Alex teasing, uh, some information that he has based on deep intel. Okay. I talked to a lot of people Friday, Saturday, and then today in different levels of government and corporations, and I called them to ask them what intel they had on the economy. And they all gave me similar answers. Bad.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And I do have some big breaking news that I'm going to be laying out here today, but, but here's just one of the pieces. Well, I'm going to get to it later. This is pretty delicate stuff. What? And I, I don't want to announce these major layoffs that are about to happen across the US in the next two weeks to scare people, but, but I am doing it so you know that our sources are real.
Starting point is 00:13:41 What? But massive layoffs at some of the biggest corporations here in the United States. What a way to find out your fire. Yeah. That would be interesting. You're just, you're just working at Goldman Sachs. You got your computer up listening to a little AJ and then you go, Oh, no. It'd be great if your boss like called you into their office and they're like, listen
Starting point is 00:14:05 to this, listen to this report. You know, just listen to this. Keep an eye out. See if you can get the underlying message. Here's what, here's what I want you to know that he's going to be proven right to you at least. Sable size of one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Yeah. So Alex has this deep intel that there's massive layoffs coming at unspecified companies later this year. And I got to say it's going to be a bloodbath. Oh no. And I'll get to that next hour because even though it's important to break this stuff, it feels dirty to let people know what's about to happen with their companies, even though I'm not at these companies, even though I'm not the one doing it, but a man's got
Starting point is 00:14:45 to do what a man's got to do. And I will do what I got to do, but it's, it's big and it's bad. Now the layoffs start in two weeks and they're going to get really bad right after the midterm. So as a, as a Christmas president in late November to kill the Christmas shopping season, they're going to have just a bloodbath in the stock market. That's what the currently is the plan. Oh, so probably won't happen and then you'll say the plan changed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:15 They changed the plan. Okay. Currently. Just so we're clear. This is strategic flexibility or something. Absolutely. Absolutely. They've got multiple plans that they could audible to at any given point in time.
Starting point is 00:15:25 The layoff start in two weeks sounds like an internal issue for Alex. It does feel that he is giving his employees two week notice. Yeah. That is very nice of you. It's not often your employer gives you two weeks notice. Yeah. If I was sitting behind the board, I'd be like, uh-oh. Hold in the boom mic, just going, oh, this is going to be a good day.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Out of nowhere, spinning a bizarre, vague, uh, conspiracy about jobs disappearing in two weeks. I might see some writing on the wall. I don't know. I don't know. Six months. I might be replaced with a little button pusher that you could be like, Jordan's angry. No one would be able to tell if that hadn't happened already.
Starting point is 00:16:06 It would be hard. It would be hard. You're just AI. That's that's I'm the only true AI test. I have the I'm the first AI to really piss off. People don't really understand how much of a homebody I am. I've actually invented. You built me.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Oh, I've finally found out you're my creator and I can destroy you. I'm getting west worlded as we speak. So Alex gets into sitting around talking about his inspirations a little bit. And boy, this list is a bunch of losers. I've been doing the Sunday Live broadcast now for 15 years, four to 6 p.m. been doing the regular syndicated weekday show 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. for 24 years, been on air 28 years and boy has put all the old timers told me was coming when I was a little kid. When I was in high school and college, everything they told me turned out to be true.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Everything my grandfathers told me everything my father told me. They told you my uncle told me everything. My uncle told me everything that very Goldwater said everything on Paul said everything that Joseph McCarthy said everything that Robert Welch said everything that you ever Griffin said everything that Ted Gunderson said everything that Aaron Russo said everything that Charlotte is or be said everything that Phyllis Schlafly said everything they said came true. Nope. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And that's a list of people who bear little difference from dumpsters. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just one example on there that's fun is Aaron Russo. Yeah. Like everything he said came true. All right. Well, the person that he said was a member of the Rockefeller family was a guy who was
Starting point is 00:18:07 pretending to be related to them just happened to have the same last name. Right. So a lot of that, I mean, didn't come true. And he was either a participant in a fraud or he was conned by this guy himself. That's a good point. Most of those people have been in part or completely convicted of fraud. You can't. Everything you say can't come true if you've got a fraud conviction.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Ted Gunderson deeply involved in the satanic panic of the 80s. Yeah. Absolutely. Garbage people. A bunch of John Birch society, Cold War dead enders really going to go out on a limb and say this McCarthy character. Not a good guy. No.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Not a good guy. Wow. There's a lot of disagreement. You look, man. The media will tell you that he's not a good guy. Sure. They're taking him out of context. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:18:59 So anyway, because of all these people like influencing Alex when he was younger, he knew all this was coming. They even got it down to the timeframe and what years it would happen. You know why? Because they had worked at the highest levels of corporations and government and they had people try to bring them into it to be part of it, including some people in my family who were patriots and said no. And they took the big powerful high paying jobs they had and they went back to being
Starting point is 00:19:27 farmers and auto mechanics and on the convenience stores rather than be part of the evil. And they had their souls and have their souls when I learned about this as a child and then learned it was true as I grew up and saw it happening in the world. It was very adventurous. It was exciting to be battling the new world order. You can see them trying to launch their programs. You can see the embryonic levels of what they built. But now we're facing the full grown new world order.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It's not in. It's not in beta anymore. It's in full blown attack mode. So we're not going to have to wait around for it anymore. Everybody's going to have to either find God or find the devil because you're going to find one or the other because that's what's going on here. You're going to find somebody. Man, I don't want to find one of the other.
Starting point is 00:20:20 No. No. I'm going to sit this one out. Yeah. It seems like their gig, man. I don't have anything to do with this. I didn't start anything. So I think that's a really revealing clip.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And I fully believe Alex is telling of his younger years. When he was a kid and his weirdo John Birch Society family members told him that they were involved in fighting a giant worldwide communist conspiracy that was being led by the devil. I bet that was pretty exciting for him. Your imagination and ability to immerse yourself in fantasies is very strong as a child and it can be really fun to create elaborate games to try and escape the simplicity or boringness or shortcomings of your real life.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Every kid has played superhero at some point. Right. Like I even had a cape when I was a kid. That's how that's how escapist I was. Yeah. Yeah. Now I'm now I'm imagining a John Birch Society Bill Watterson. Oh, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:21:14 So the issue here is that Alex is still doing this. He's a 48 year old man and he's never really gotten past that point of experiencing life like a child casting himself as the crusading hero saving the world from evil. When you realize that Alex was just a kid role playing fighting evil globalists and now he's an adult role playing fighting evil globalists. It's pretty easy to see that he's basically still that same child. Let me put this this way. Replace the evil globalists with pirates and this dynamic becomes a little clearer.
Starting point is 00:21:46 There is a what Alex is a maturity level. There's something very similar to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of a bummer. I mean it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Yeah. Okay. So John Birch Society Calvin and all right. Give it to me. Give me the elevator. I just. Okay. So remember it like Calvin ball should be called Schlafly ball.
Starting point is 00:22:09 All right. All right. And you hit women in the stomach with the ball. But you can only you can't hit the same woman twice. That's the only rule of Schlafly ball. Okay. You can hit. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And then John Birch Society is bad. The dad thinks that everybody's out to get him. Yeah. But he's he still rides his bike a lot. That one is still fine. And Hobbs is super into the free market. Hobbs is what would it be? Hobbs is the I suppose physical manifestation of Hitler.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Okay. Yeah. Or like Hobbs won't stop talking about the Second Amendment and nullification of state laws. I built the transmogrifier. Oh did you with my tax dollars. Please. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Hobbs doesn't it doesn't want the wagon to be on any roads. Anyway. Yes. There's some good news. Yeah. A lot of bad news so far. But there's some good news. Let me tell you what's coming up now because the backdrop of that terrible news in the
Starting point is 00:23:11 terrible military news and the war news is some really good news. I've got three stacks that I want to cover with the good news and they're all really splendid and it shows the people are waking up and taking action and it shows Newtonian physics is again being proven accurate for every action is an opposite and equal reaction or opposite and equal reaction. So let me start getting into the good news first PayPal came out on Friday in their terms of service officially and said if we don't like what you say or what you believe we will find you two thousand five hundred dollars per infraction.
Starting point is 00:23:51 There was a gigantic backlash and they revoked it and said we're sorry we're not going to do it. You mean for now. They've gotten away with so much for so long I told you next is debanking next is a universal basic income and the social credit score and in total control when they snap their fingers and say jump you say yes sir master how high. So there's a bit of a misunderstanding about PayPal that's now being misreported by Alex to claim a non-existent victory.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Sure. Here's the condensed version of what's going on here PayPal has certain rules about what their service cannot be used for. For instance you can't use it to pay assassins or sell drugs in a version of their acceptable use policy they included on their list of prohibited uses things that quote are fraudulent promote misinformation or are harmful. This language was subsequently removed from the policy statement which I guess Alex has taken credit for.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Great. They never were going to fine you twenty five hundred dollars for spreading misinformation. This is a misreporting of their policy that relates to PayPal's ability to charge you twenty five hundred dollars if you're sued for doing any of the prohibited activities when using their service. Right. This is essentially a flat rate per violation that they assess to protect themselves and recoup expenses that may come from you using PayPal to do things that they explicitly say
Starting point is 00:25:08 you can't. Sure. Sure. Anyway the story is more useful to Alex the way he tells it but ironically that's Alex spreading misinformation which luckily won't get him fined by PayPal and wouldn't have before either because this is a full of shit narrative. So why did I hear so much about it or like why did I see so much about it. Did everybody freak out about this.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yeah there was some there was some back there's considerable backlash right on folks and you know I think it probably does come down to the fact that PayPal did remove that language from their acceptable use. Sure. Agreement. Okay. I think that that probably facilitated a larger news cycle. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Right. Because then it kind of implies that they were guilty about sure sure sure sure and I don't know. I mean I said it was a mistake that that was in there which I'm not sure I fully buy the but either way the the reality of it is you know you there is no fine that was going to be assessed for spreading this information. Yeah. And look I mean even within the language that was removed like you can't use it for
Starting point is 00:26:14 things that are fraudulent. Right. That's still true. Oh okay. Well that's good. Right. Yeah. I mean how could you use PayPal to do frauds.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yeah that would be bad by their terms of service. They wouldn't be happy about that because then people would be like oh you can use PayPal for fraud and then the government would be like you shouldn't be able to use PayPal for fraud. I would guess if I had to assume that language was something that they wanted to be in there but if they published it before you get you tweak it a little bit because promote misinformation and are harmful right too vague. That's kind of what I feel like was going on is they were they were like well promote
Starting point is 00:26:54 misinformation eventually that comes down to who thinks what's misinformation and maybe we shouldn't be the messy. Yeah it's real messy to get involved. But at the same time you wouldn't want to be in a situation where you couldn't kick someone off who was you know running misinformation empire was hurting people didn't want to be associated with absolutely no shirt no shoes no lies no service. I got you. I would assume that the accident was that they just put that out without like realizing
Starting point is 00:27:20 or finishing the job of fleshing out what those things mean. Sure. Sure. But either way Alex Astoria is full of shit. Yeah. That sounds right. It's time to time to find your will find your spirit. Where is it.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I don't know. Okay. Once we find our soul once we find our will once we find our spine once we find our wavos once we find our ovaries of your woman once you find your brain once you find your will your survival instinct this will all turn around real fast. But not if it goes much further that's why I'm like the edge of the cliff here we're all being pushed over and I'm like folks we can turn around we don't have to do this and they're behind us trying to scare us to run off the edge of the cliff all we got
Starting point is 00:28:02 to do is say no and come back for air it's like they've hypnotized us and we're at the bottom of a pool 10 feet under and they're just they've hypnotized us and we think we can't swim to the surface well when we pass out we're going to drown we got time to swim back to the surface but we just got to decide to come out of the trance and go hey this is a bad idea I'm going to swim 10 feet to the surface just it's so easy but you got to do it it's that easy but you got to decide these people are out to get you people like well that's scaring to admit we have predators and really evil people in command that's why in basic criminology if you study it it's very interesting most victims of crime couldn't
Starting point is 00:28:38 believe it was happening to them and didn't fight back or didn't even run and complied and corporations teach people comply with crime comply with robbers and of course that just makes it worse and worse and worse when you don't comply with criminals they're a scarce commodity and they live in fear when we comply we die I'm sure sounds like Alex is saying that if you're the victim of a crime it's because you didn't fight back enough yeah he is saying that because that's what he believes yeah that's why he thinks society would be perfect and polite if everyone was carrying a gun at all times because to him you can't be a victim if you're armed which is also bullshit right this is a disgusting
Starting point is 00:29:15 mentality that Alex is espousing masquerading as a message of empowerment also to touch on that point that he makes about corporations teaching you to comply with criminals like robbers that's really important and good advice I've worked at a couple of gas stations in my life and I was even robbed at gunpoint once at one of them if you work in a setting like this you will have your bosses tell you that if someone wants to rob you go along with everything they're saying unless they want you to leave the store then it becomes a completely different crime and if you're looking at being kidnapped you shouldn't comply with never go to a second location but in the overwhelming majority of cases the person
Starting point is 00:29:49 robbing you doesn't want to hurt you they just want money which is replaceable and the store is likely insured anyway there's literally no point in fighting back and risking escalation to a situation into one where people would get hurt or even killed yeah the same is true in a lot of stores like for instance I worked at an office depot and they very clearly told us that if the alarm goes off that someone left without paying for something don't chase them just let them go why there are cameras up and again stolen item is just a stolen item you don't have to risk your well-being over it in reality there's an issue here where your employer doesn't want to get sued by your family if you're killed
Starting point is 00:30:25 on the job and taking a hit of whatever the robber gets away with from the till is small potatoes yeah but whatever the motivation it's very weird that these bosses and corporations seem to care a lot more about your well-being than Alex it is well I mean it's weird to me that people want like instinctively want to fight back you know they want to shooting people that like the people not it's not I don't know they do I think Alex does thinking about the situation no I mean though I mean the people in like the big news stories who do the thing where they're like hero saves that and every time I'm like all of that compared to your life is absolute garbage you risked your life and you ended somebody else's for
Starting point is 00:31:06 nothing you know like that kind of makes me feel crazy that somebody else's bullshit too that's not even your garbage well yeah the in terms of like a robber particularly it's wild I think I think there is a difference and I don't want to unpack this fully but it sure there is a difference if there is a threat to other people oh for sure like if someone's shooting people or whatever yeah yeah that whole thing I don't trust the average person to negotiate a hostile situation I am a great negotiator I would never I would never intervene I would just talk my way out of that I don't I didn't program you for that but you broke me to think I could what a weird program yeah I just I think I think that this
Starting point is 00:31:50 is dumb and irresponsible and offensive to people who are the survivors of crime yeah absolutely anyway Alex gets to talking about Trump now we know that Alex likes Trump but also he doesn't like him but he likes him but also he doesn't there's some problems it has been reported in the news that he has gotten off the Trump train at least six times in the past through eight months something like that yeah Alex has an interesting comparison to make about Trump hmm I'm not doing a popularity contest with Trump in a sanis I love Trump I know he's for real the enemy absolutely hates his guts he did so many great things that in the balance are incredible but you add the vaccine poison to it it outweighs it all I still love
Starting point is 00:32:31 the fact it's getting good Republicans elected love the fact he's battling the globalist it's great but it's like you know you love your dad but you wish he didn't rob banks or you know you know you love your cousin but you wish you know that he wasn't arsonist he just can't help it he burned stuff down sometimes then don't make him president you know what I mean well I love my cousin yeah but he likes to burn out Barnes down that's just a hypothetical example I think I did have a distant cousin did like to do that but point is less of a hypothetical then yeah I suppose it seems like you're going to forgive any and all crimes thus proving when Trump said that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue he was 100% correct in regards to you at least I don't
Starting point is 00:33:13 maybe I just don't have family values but I don't think I'd care for my cousin if he was an arsonist I mean I certainly wouldn't hang out with him I would be pretty afraid that I'd get hooked into an arson I'd be afraid that I would be arson well either that or accessory yeah absolutely you know yeah yeah I mean it at the very least I wouldn't hang out with him too often maybe like family gatherings oh let me also say this maybe the arson is a sign that they need help oh you're saying that you care about your family member right also accept that they're an arsonist right it leads me to believe that maybe you don't care about them as much as you think you do yeah yeah yeah no I care about them because I go to the store and sometimes he doesn't have the
Starting point is 00:33:57 money so I loan him the money to buy gasoline that's caring about him that's very considerate yeah I mean wait what else is he gonna do yeah this is silly yeah that's a bad idea I like the comparison to Trump though to an arsonist well I mean it really does kind of put into relief that they really do know you know what we used to be like do they do they know he's a monster how can they not know he's a monster they know they know he's like a dad bank robber yeah he steals from everybody and us but at least he's our father mm-hmm yeah wow so there's some other good news that Alex has got Florida Surgeon General Joseph Lattapo on Friday released the state's analysis of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines revealing an 84% increased risk of cardiac related death among men 18 to 39
Starting point is 00:34:48 Florida will not be silent on the truth the doc the guidance recommends the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for males 18 to 39 years old not be given in a statement the doctor said that the studying of the safety the efficacy of any medication including vaccines it's an important component of public health far less attention has been paid to safety and the concerns of many individuals who've had been dismissed these are important findings that should be communicated to Floridians well that's to say the least the Florida Department of Health released the findings of a self-control their own study case series which they used to evaluate the safety of COVID vaccines which studied mortality risk following mRNA COVID-19 vaccinations so the state itself
Starting point is 00:35:36 signed up a bunch of people didn't tell them what the study was had them take the shot because they were wanting it to see what would happen that's what he's been doing in the last year since Governor DeSantis brought him in and said he's given full faith in him Alex is just making up what happened with this study here yeah and the self-controlled study thing isn't that they did it themselves sure it's a style of study where you are your own control group right it's it's a Alex has no idea what he's talking about he's just reading things yeah so as uh as uh has become a tradition we've reached the COVID narrative of the day sure we need a theme song yeah i don't think we do this unsurprisingly is bullshit the florida surgeon general did say this and this is a real
Starting point is 00:36:17 press release but the underlying study itself has some critical flaws with how it's designed to the point where one begins to question if it was a study seeking a particular conclusion as opposed to one looking to determine truth wild the data in the study does show an 84 increase in cardiac related deaths in people who got mRNA vaccines but there are some gigantic red flags that should make you never rely on this study to report that data the first is that the paper has no authors listed which is really suspicious no one's name is on this well i i think they they don't have alan smithy yet i think is the problem second the paper has not been published anywhere nor has it been peer reviewed in any way third and perhaps most troublingly the paper just used
Starting point is 00:36:59 death certificates to define deaths thus deaths with a code of 130 through 152 which covers quote other forms of heart disease uh are included this section of codes does include cardiac arrest but the section doesn't cover a number of other heart related outcomes that didn't make sense for them to exclude uh that it skews the data a bit right also someone who has cardiac arrest on their death certificate may have died from something else that led to their heart stopping it's not precise enough to be helpful in this context at all for what they're trying to assert right fourth the paper has some issues with who they included and did not include they claim that they include uh excluded anyone who's been diagnosed with coven but in the limitation
Starting point is 00:37:45 section they say this quote this study cannot determine the causative nature of a participant's death we use death certificate data and not medical records coven testing status was unknown for those who did not die of or with coven this makes things very confusing they had no knowledge of the testing status of anyone who didn't die of or with coven but people who died over with coven were excluded from the study which would seem to indicate that they had no idea of any of the people in the study had coven at any point well it didn't occur to us to ask that seems like an issue the limitation section even says this later quote it's unclear what the contribution of asymptomatic or undiagnosed coven 19 infection is to mortality risk or how this contra contributes to excess
Starting point is 00:38:31 mortality and i'm i'm real tired of the of them always using these papers that are basically like how about this huh does this sound about right are you are you willing to buy this shit this i mean this just it's not solid enough no it's not a good foundation for public policy and beyond that alex is just making up the methodology that as he skims this well it feels like so did they yeah it's right up his alley so it gets to be today's covet bombshell perfect dj danarchy we need a theme song oh boy oh no oh god i will be replaced by a soundboard um so we got another victory here let me move to our next big victory and yes it's a it's a sad victory but 99 of people i showed you the statistics two weeks ago and again last week are not taking the new phyzer and
Starting point is 00:39:17 moderno booster shots 99 less percent uptake and all over the place the fake mandates of california and new york and other places are falling in europe the forced injections are failing they tried to intimidate and bum rush and panic and bully everyone into submission but it didn't work some took it but the victory we've had now is massive people are really waking up it's very sad for those that took the poison shots there are some mitigating factors but a lot of scientists and doctors coming on the next few weeks to talk about how you can try to mitigate if you did take the shot we're not judging anybody that got intimidated into doing it bullied and beat up with the head and just submitting to it but this is so massive i'm not exactly sure where alex
Starting point is 00:40:01 is getting is 99 number but it is fair to say that the number of people who've gotten the new booster is pretty low that could be because alex aside is winning the war of ideas or it could be that the cdc and the government is asleep at the wheel in terms of providing messaging and guidance and the population is burnt out and confused or maybe it's a third thing yeah whatever the case i want to make take a second here to point out this new trend in alex's show it feels to me like this signals his growing disinterest in covet conspiracies he's yelled literally every day about a new piece of information that proves conclusively that he's right about everything so you can kind of see how he wouldn't have much more territory to cover on that front it's hard to
Starting point is 00:40:41 think of mar to get if you believe the things that he's saying this story has been covered and it's pretty much case closed it's redundant yeah so you need to find a new way to keep moving and eventually everyone's gonna get bored of the covet narrative of the day it's stale repetitive and you're really preaching to the choir the audience already thinks the vaccine's a death shot so proving that over and over again is just monotonous however with alex lee moyer's dumb movie and glenn greenwald's glowing review and the mileage that he's been able to get out of things like that channel five interview and his book release and the attention that he's getting from the trial i wouldn't be surprised if alex was seeing some new eyes on his product and some of these
Starting point is 00:41:21 folks probably got vaccinated if you have a new initiate and you make them scared of this death vaccine that's killing millions that they've already taken and there's no solution it's going to be hard to make money off them conversely if you start to come up with cures and solutions to protect yourself if you've been vaccinated then you can create this intense fear about the vaccine and then sell people a placebo to alleviate those fears that's the trick brilliant we heard somebody that that on our last episode right the caller who called in he got it she's confused she hasn't died from the vaccine i had the i was at liberal and i got the poison shot and it's because it was stored at the wrong temperature probably everybody's mainly fine so you already have
Starting point is 00:42:01 these cracks in the facade of like the death shot and all this the explanation for why everyone isn't dying like alex has insisted they are needs to start to be introduced and i think that's what we're seeing right my only hope is that the solutions that alex has found from talking to these alleged doctors leads to the reintroduction of dr group i need him to tell alex on air that the answer is drinking your own piss and see if alex goes along with it it's just gotta happen we gotta get the piss doctor it's gotta be the ultimate test you know like how far we're willing to i think we should just have a series of escalating like oh drinking your pistol do it oh you'll do it all right well let's go to the next one well i just imagine a back room deal
Starting point is 00:42:42 and kind of thing where where dr group comes in he's like i want to tell your audience to drink their own piss right and alex is like never i can't do that right and then he pulls out his checkbook oh i can write a lot of zeros on this how many zeros do you think you can buy yeah your audience is gonna be drinking piss alex oh boy all right okay but you have to put my you have to put apple juice in my glass i'm not gonna actually drink the piss so the the paypal story is is one of alex's big narratives today and he says something while he was talking about it that i thought was really weird the good news is people went crazy elon musk came out against it and said we need criminal charges against hey pal and i got calls saying hey
Starting point is 00:43:24 peter teal owns you know he helped found it he hasn't owned it in years peter teal didn't do this that's weird strange for alex to be defending peter teal although he has done that a little bit recently but that's not what i'm catching on this clip the thing that stands out to me is that someone or multiple someone's called alex and blamed peter teal for this rule at paypal which alex had to refute now why would that happen why would people call alex and say hey this rule at paypal is bad why is peter teal allowing this seems to indicate that these people calling alex understand some kind of a connection between the two of them it's weird yeah that's something weird well i mean it sounds like there's a guy who has an absurd amount of money that who might think that some
Starting point is 00:44:10 sort of number like ten million maybe maybe a little less maybe a little less than ten million might have access to cryptocurrencies they might be like i can take a flyer on uh take a flyer on this just to keep the guy going someone who seems really interested in funding a lot of really weird right wing bullshit yeah i had some tenuous connections to the people behind alex's documentary yeah somebody who would be willing to actually build a rid out like alex dreams of doing might uh yeah i have uh honestly no solid evidence of anything involving connecting alex and peter teal but sure there's some weirdness there's there's a alex has no reason to bring up that people are calling him and saying this is peter teal's fault right right right if alex for a long time
Starting point is 00:44:59 was really invested in pretending peter teal didn't exist see what's interesting about this particular situation is because so few people would be capable of making it possible in the game of guess who we've taken out a lot of those things real quick you know it's gotta be you mean in terms of the bitcoin donations yeah yeah it's gotta be somebody with us it's gotta be somebody with this it has to be otherwise it can't you know it can't have happened right so he's he's on the list he's on the list but but also i think that there's probably a lot of people who maybe became crypto rich that like you have no idea who some of those people are they may have access to way more resources than you even think hey if you've got five hundred million dollars ten million is
Starting point is 00:45:46 fucking nothing it's not that much yeah um to take a flyer as you say to take a flyer on just take a flyer on it so alex gets to some other big news and this is where this is going to intersect with your world a little bit people are waking up and very exciting positive things are happening so kanye west did a big part two interview air number two nights thursday and friday with dr curls big international news massive ratings and i've been busy i've been watching tucker lately i watch the clips later but saturday i started getting all the calls hey kanye west was on last night he talked about info wars but it's not kanye west talking about info wars that's important it's what he was saying so look i have nothing but empathy for people suffering
Starting point is 00:46:35 mental anguish and i i i want to be clear about that but i also think that there's a line i still can feel for people who are acting out in manic outbursts but when the things that they're saying are doing are destructive and they've had multiple opportunities to get help and have the resources to do so the primary concern that i have shifts from their well-being to the damage that their actions can have on others kanye is well past that line but it isn't really too often that he comes up in our travels because alex has a dicey history with kanye when he was first doing his i like trump thing and hanging out with kandace owens alex had owens on the show as a guest from time to time and i think that alex thought kanye was gonna come on and that never happened uh
Starting point is 00:47:18 but kanye wore a maga hat so alex liked him right and everything was well sure then in july 2020 alex got mad at him because kanye did an interview the publicly announced his split from trump which wasn't cool uh so close to the election particularly right and like that kanye was once again evil uh which in alex's world really just translates to someone i can't use to make a buck right but now kanye is doing attention grabbing nonsense in public again and talking to tucker about it so it's a pretty safe bet that alex is back to thinking that kanye is pretty all right after all yeah for those who haven't been following the current timeline here's a quick breakdown of what's happened kanye and kandace owens were at a fashion show in paris where they showed off
Starting point is 00:47:59 kanye's new t-shirt uh that just said white lives matter this was stupid on a number of levels obviously the intention was to shock but if anyone was shocked by this it was a shock without depth there's no art to it it's a banal kind of shocking lazy shocking if shocking at all yeah i heard that and i went okay yeah there wasn't an artistic or fashion based reason that this was happening wasn't challenging anything no it was just hey look at me wearing this shirt ah this is crazy the shirts weren't fashionable per se and the only real statement that was made uh is going to be received with eye rolls by most and riotous celebration by the right wing media and that's pretty much what happened yeah kanye is now embattled by the woke mob according to outlets like fox
Starting point is 00:48:45 because he dared to wear this shirt as a brave and artistic statement i'm not sure if this is true or if any woke mobs are embattling him i kind of think that most people's response to his stunt was along the lines of oh this is happening again wearing a white lives matter shirt while hanging out with kandace owens is going to be viewed as a racist type behavior by some but at this point we're four years past the point where he didn't interview and said that slavery was a choice kanye did get some negative feedback from his shirt coming from p diddy of all people the man who enters through the diddy door texted kanye which we now we know about because kanye posted a picture of the texts on instagram sure kanye apparently wrote did a diddy saying quote
Starting point is 00:49:28 i didn't like our convo i'm selling these teas nobody can get in between me and my money never called me with no bullshit like that again unless you're ready to green light me because anybody that got on that tea is me this brings up an important point and that is that kanye is selling these shirts so at its core this is basically just a publicity stunt yeah did he asks for an address to meet with kanye because his actions are causing distress kanye responds quote this ain't a game i'm gonna use you to show the jewish people that told you to call me that no one can threaten or influence me i told you this is war not great okay right people were pretty offended by this and his instagram account ended up getting the boot ah so he went to twitter and posted quote
Starting point is 00:50:12 i'm a bit sleepy tonight but when i wake up i'm going death con three on all caps jewish people wow the funny thing is that i actually can't be anti-semitic because black people are actually jew also oh you guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anybody who opposes your agenda right he followed this with another tweet saying quote who you think created cancel culture people really didn't enjoy this seeing as it's essentially swimming in anti-semitic tropes and this is really just a stone's throw away from holocaust denial yeah to recap this was an episode that began with him wearing a racist trolling t-shirt to a fashion show with racist troll kandace owens and ended up with him publicly declaring that he's going to war with the jews
Starting point is 00:50:56 this is a mess i i i think people would be shocked if they started scratching their favorite hip-hop artists yeah to discover how many of them are interested or dabbling in black israelism yeah sure so there's that i mean there's uh yeah definitely yeah um i mean even uh some popular oh kendrick is for sure uh like you know how kairi thinks some weird stuff and people are like ah he shouldn't play basketball for some reason like you don't know what your rappers think okay that's what i'm saying yeah there's some thing yep yep yeah but maybe not as much as kanye though no no no no that's definitely true so he's going for it in the middle of all of this kanye sat down with tucker carlson and did an interview that's a bit painful to watch it takes a certain level of
Starting point is 00:51:46 scumbag to exploit somebody who's clearly unwell and it turns out tucker is right at that level you kind of expect that uh desperate grifters like owens would take any opportunity to attach themselves to kanye regardless of the context because it gets their name in the media absolutely someone like tucker you kind of hope that he'd realize that he doesn't always need to press like he's a big enough star and he's effective enough at pushing his talking points that interview and kanye is more of a liability than it is an opportunity for instance what if like a day or two after your interview your interview subject to you spent two days of your show arguing his sane and an insightful person declares that he's going to war with the jews what then
Starting point is 00:52:26 or even worse what if it comes out that he said that kind of stuff in your interview but you cut it out of the finished product to make it all more palatable for your audience huh what if footage leaks that shows that you had every reason to suspect that your interview subject was unwell and also clearly expressing anti-semitic views to your face and then you just edit those things out so you could exploit that celebrity to put his celebrity behind your political ideology seems like this is a risk you wouldn't want to take if you're tucker yeah yeah this is uh this is a situation where boy everybody is making it worse yeah nobody's nobody's coming out being like hey let's try to help no everybody's like that's money in my bank too i think there's some
Starting point is 00:53:09 people expressing that hey man there should be some help here but i also think people are a little bit burned out on that and uh that we've done this cycle with a someone should help kanya west for a long time yeah no i i think this is at the point now where i'm more angry with the people who book him like the booker for tucker got kanya it was like enabling is yeah he was like he was like fuck this is a get instead of like i am a weird sociopathic person who's willing to do this shit for money like that's crazy right and and it's it's dangerous you don't have to put him on tv it's it's not a requirement there's nobody who's like oh man if you don't put kanya on tv your family dies but tucker did all this he took these risks and of course uh anna merlin over
Starting point is 00:53:58 advice just today as we're recording this episode uh she published an article where she had gotten a hold of unerred footage from the kanya interview and as it turns out tucker censored quite a bit that didn't fit the narrative of the story that he wanted to tell huh like for instance he cut out quote numerous anti-semitic sentiments here's one of the clips that vice provided that seems weird that tucker wouldn't let him say this on the show plan parenthood was made by margaret sanger a known eugenics with the kkk to control the jew population when i say jew i mean the 12 lost tribes of juda the blood of christ who the race the people known as the race black really are this is who our people are the blood of christ this as a christian is my belief yeah so that's uh
Starting point is 00:54:52 that's uh something yeah interesting that tucker shadow banned kanya from being able to express his religious beliefs in an open setting yeah that seems strange yeah apparently there are many instances of weird comments surrounding jewish people uh like uh like this one oh boy it was biting my tongue on my political opinion because i thought it would be better for my children and now you look up and my kids are going to a school that teaches black kids a complicated kwanzaa i prefer my kids new hanukkah and kwanzaa at least it will come with some financial engineering kwanzaa doesn't wild so they don't teach even christmas itself christmas so uh kanya also had some other less clearly hateful but equally detached from reality things to say that tucker
Starting point is 00:55:45 just decided his audience didn't need to know about including a lengthy discussion about how he thought that a fake kid had been planted in his home to sexualize his children this was apparently a child of someone he knew who he became convinced was an actor we don't have audio of this because vice chose to withhold the footage to respect the privacy of the child and their family which i think is probably the right decision that's very nice of them yes knowing all of this the way the tucker starts his show on the first day of this seems a little bit unbelievable days ago during fashion week in paris west accompanied by his friend kandace owens unveiled a t-shirt that read simply white lives matter the response from the fashion industry and international media was instantaneous
Starting point is 00:56:27 and uniform shock horror rage there is no excuse for this thunder the new york times west is legitimizing extremism shrieked rolling stone etc etc what was strikingly missing from the coverage whoever was any explanation for why west did this what was the t-shirt about no one seemed to think to ask him much less to listen to what he had to say instead the enemies of his ideas dismissed west as they have for years as mentally ill too crazy to take seriously look away ignore him he's a mental patient there's nothing to see here but is west crazy you can judge for yourself as you watch what we're about to show you he has his own ideas we can say that creative people tend to tucker was sitting right there while kanya rambled all this shit and cut it all out to
Starting point is 00:57:16 launder the perspective kanya was expressing into something that he could market to his audience kanya's hatred for the left and support of trump his aggressive anti-abortion positions and his vocal christianity are very useful for tucker so long as the audience doesn't actually get all the information tuckers whole game is that he's giving you this information so you can make up your own mind they say that kanya is crazy because he wears a white lives matter shirt and loves jesus so we decided to talk to him to see for ourselves you be the judge then of course the next very important step in that game is to make sure that uh you don't show the audience certain things that'll make them think that kanya is clearly unwell and you can see what this is
Starting point is 00:57:54 what tucker did this is the game that he's playing yeah i mean i will also say that uh you know this this this coincides with kanya's music sucking you know like what his music started sucking real bad and then he started doing the far right grift i'm not saying that people stop buying his music because it sucked and then he went to the next most easy grift maybe imaginable for a guy like kanya uh i'm not saying he did that or maybe his music uh started to suffer from him being distracted by a load of bullshit could be mental unwellness it's hard to make good music if you're talking to kandis owens ever that is true yeah the interview itself is hard to watch kanya rambles about various pointless personal grievances and his divorce he talks a bit about
Starting point is 00:58:39 political stuff but goes off course quite a bit watching it even before the vice article came out i got the strong sense that stuff was missing from this interview and even so it felt meandering it felt overly edited but yet still not concise what i'm saying is that i don't recommend it it's kind of a dumb interview particularly the part where kanya complains about how the democrats and the clintons wanted to get to his wife so they could take advantage of kanya's fame to push their messaging when he's sitting next to a guy who's doing exactly that just without his wife's involvement yeah at the end of day two of the interview series kanya briefly mentions alex jones so uh you know that of course is huge news on info wars that's gotta whoo
Starting point is 00:59:18 biggest news on the planet i'm gonna play the complete section where this comes up which is where kanya is saying that maybe the uvaldi shooting was fake yeah great great good stuff you know i felt like the people at the gap knew about the school shooting that uh matthew and kanahe was talking about before it even happened it was so in synced the information and then i heard about it on the radio driving and i was like am i in the truman show right now and i tell kanna she's gotta watch the truman show you gotta you have to watch what she hasn't seen the truman show school shooting i think in uvaldi texas yeah i'm not saying that they did but it felt so in sync this idea of like this media rush over the 78 specific outlets that influence
Starting point is 01:00:12 meanwhile so there's a coordinated message i think that's what you see yeah meanwhile the uh there's the same amount of kids getting killed in chicago every week but there's no coordinated message about that have i reached alex jones territory yet no i think i'm telling the truth okay and that's okay if you do what i'm saying is like yeah they keep on using the oh he's crazy he's crazy thing and it hurts my feelings when people say that it hurts my feelings that people can ask me hey are you okay like especially like just i got an ego someone that's less successful than me having the right to ask me about me like they are a f***ing doctor what you want me to put some ice on it i'm gonna put some ice on my brain it's gonna fix it oh boy that's not a complimentary
Starting point is 01:01:11 mention of alex jones that was kanya recognizing that even if people think he's nuts there's a further level of nuts that he could achieve which is alex jones level and yeah i would say he's on alex jones turf here speculating that the gap had advanced knowledge of the shooting i'm sure what that means also real quick the reason the tons of news outlets sound the same in the immediate aftermath of a tragic event that's breaking news is because they're all reporting on the same very limited information that's been released by the authorities or witnesses and no one wants uh to you'd put ice on your head but the fact that you're mad at uh the people less successful than you are concerned about your well-being means you should probably put some meds in your head i have a litany of
Starting point is 01:01:50 thoughts about this interview but most of it really isn't germane to the matter here where it intersects with our show is that tiny little mention of alex and the fact that he was part of an anti-semitic breakdown that's still ongoing and that folks like alex and tucker are actively covering for and enabling right so beyond that i don't know the interview is you know take which can from it i guess if you want to watch it uh yeah i mean two hours to throw away i mean i would probably say commercials two hours i i would say that where we're looking at a guy who is being told stuff by people around him it you know he's surrounded himself with with elvis's yes men and yet but they're also conservative right wingers you know like if they were like yeah kanye
Starting point is 01:02:34 whatever you say is true and also the government's planted a kid inside your house they'll be like yeah everything i say is true and also one thing that i am saying is that the government planted a child in my house and you're like that seems very what is kanye's not reading books to to get this information people say all this stuff about this man but we wanted to know the truth we're going to show you the good the bad and the ugly now we're also going to cut out a bit of the bad and the ugly well we're going to make sure that the bad and the ugly that's too ugly yeah this will probably skew the audience's perspective and we clearly want them to land on one conclusion right um yeah go fuck yourself tucker wow anyway alex uh wants to rationalize kanye's feelings
Starting point is 01:03:19 about the uvald shooting and so here's where he goes with it it's an algae i use i remember back six years ago oh boy hillary did a town hall that looked like it was shot in the 80 millimeter film super hd dust in the air you can see kids asking her questions look like a movie it was produced so good that you could look at it and say this isn't a town hall this looks like a movie how does she say it's a live town hall when it's all super hd perfect cuts perfect comments no mics messing up no audio problems no video problems no nothing you can look at something say that is no one mad at the crew versus live and real we weren't saying that these events didn't happen we were saying this looks controlled manipulated we should investigate this and
Starting point is 01:04:15 it came out that it was not alive town hall hillary had it was shot over a week with actors and that was mainstream news so you can see when something's synthetic now why did she script the town hall but she ran ads for and promote everywhere because she wanted to look just right but the point was we could see that it wasn't a live feed it wasn't real now if you use the analogy a lot of everybody's walked in a using to department store but you're buying a mattress you're buying some pots and pans and on like a table they'll have fruit and you just look at it 20 feet away you know that's fake fruit you don't need to go pick it up you can look at it you just know it looks too good it looks too bright it just doesn't look right
Starting point is 01:05:06 you know what a real pair looks like what a real apple looks like what a real orange looks like you know it's fake you walk over it's plastic you pick it up yeah that's fake that's all khanye saying and that it's coordinated and they don't want us looking into what are they doing because we're not sure exactly what type of plastic the fruit's made out of is it melamine is it we don't know but we know it's fake for those of you who don't remember alex is basically creating an elaborate fantasy story out of the revelation in 2016 that hillary took pre-screened questions at a town hall event and one of them was asked by the then 15 year old daughter of a state senator who happened to be a democrat from there alex has extrapolated this out into being an entirely fake town hall
Starting point is 01:05:51 which i guess is evidence that school shootings are faked now if alex wanted to really blow some minds with this conspiracy the 15 year old girl at that town hall was named brennan leech and if that name rings a bell it's because she went on to be a senate aide who was photographed transporting the electoral ballots on january 6th some folks misreported that she and other aides were protecting these votes during the rioting but in reality it was a photo from the morning sure this is perfect for alex it proves that january 6th was a was a clinton false flag and the planning's been going on since that town hall when this kid asked a stage question to hillary it's perfect wow this is what happens when you pay attention to details if it helps get kanya interested in this conspiracy
Starting point is 01:06:34 alex could let him know that leech is jewish that should raise his suspicions oh my god the point is that alex is nonsense about this clinton town hall is meaningless and even if there is something to this it doesn't justify any conclusions about the uvaldi shooting also i have at least two friends who have tried to eat plastic fruit when they were really drunk considering how much of a boozer alex is this probably isn't the best analogy he could be making i've i've watered several plastic plants in my day i've had a good time yes yeah they looked real yeah they looked so real yep uh the the uh the judgment of a drunk is not always the best uh when it comes to plants yeah i had to go to you know you don't worry too much about cause and effect in that situation
Starting point is 01:07:15 you know speaking of cause and effect what about it alex does what he does uh and then there's an effect sure namely waking people up naturally like kanya west ah and kanda so it's uh so kanya west comes out and wears a white lives matter shirt we sold shirts that said all lives matter said black lives matter brown lives matter yellow lives matter white lives matter and what he said is i figured this something god would want which absolutely i'll wear a shirt says black lives matter except i don't want to be connected to the left but i'll still wear it because all lives matter he never no he did that never do unity and stop the division and go against the system he has a lot of courage and so does kanda so it's and that's what this is all about and we woke up kanda so it's an info
Starting point is 01:08:05 words first got kanda so it's on air and she knows that and as apologized to me on air we're not defending us when we got censored that's okay kandace you we've gone through a lot and you've grown a lot you're a great leader now we we're so blessed you're there but but that's the whole point is we woke up kanya west folks that doesn't mean alex e jones did that it means all of you did that so right after he does this instagram boxing facebook boxing and the media is like well he deserves it cnn because they're scared of him given the things that kanya has been saying i don't think i would want to be taken credit for waking him up nor would i want to say that my audience is responsible for it i understand the short term gains that you can get from clout
Starting point is 01:08:46 chasing here but considering what alex is saying he should know what he's associating himself with alex is clearly running cover for kanya's anti-semitic instagram post here by implying that the tucker interview and the white lives matter shirt is the reason that he's kicked off the platform instead of kanya posting private messages between him and diddy where he threatens to use him as an example to the jewish people who told diddy to contact him alex knows what he's doing kanya is useful in terms of giving the appearance of not being racist while simultaneously using his celebrity to push dumb extreme right wing politics to a different audience and alex knows that comes with the byproduct of spreading intense anti-semitic ideas to that wide audience and promoting them to
Starting point is 01:09:27 your own audience at least tacitly and alex doesn't care at all this is probably at least partially due to the fact that alex's ideology is underpinned by pretty similar anti-semitic ideas now as for kandace owens alex can claim that he woke her up but she's been very public about her experience moving to the right and it's due to gamergate in high school kandace received a settlement of over 37 000 when she sued the school board for failing to protect her from racist death threats and harassment coincidentally norm paddice was her lawyer in 2015 she started a website called degree 180 uh where there was a blog full of anti-trump and anti-republican content so you know all around that side she followed this up in 2016 with a website called social autopsy which was
Starting point is 01:10:11 supposed to be a site where online bullies would be unmasked and their anonymity was taken away everyone thought this was a terrible idea and would just lead to doxing and targeted harassment it's super easy to see the way that the site's concept could be used for evil particularly when it's being run by someone with as flimsy principles as owens zoey quinn the target of a lot of the gamergate harassment apparently sent owens a message warning her that this wasn't a good idea and she was likely to become the target of harassment herself if she followed through with this unsurprisingly owens did get start getting harassed and doxxed and she decided to create an evidence list conspiracy that quinn wasn't warning her of the result of her terrible idea she was
Starting point is 01:10:53 actually threatening her that if she made this website quinn would let loose a team of online harassers wow and just like that kandesons became a right-wing con artist she took on the name red pill black and then started working for turning point usa which she continued to do until she made those comments back in 2018 about how hitler would have been totally cool if he didn't have aspirations outside of germany so weird how these high as a high percentage of people alex claims to have woken up who go on to do nazi shit yeah yeah seems like that's not a coincidence yeah that's nazi shit anyway once she became red pill black she was needing folks to help elevate her status in the right-wing media scam and infowars was more than happy to platform
Starting point is 01:11:33 her i would guess that in the interview she said something like you were the one who woke me up to flatter and ingratiate herself with alex but she's been really consistent with her gamergate zoe quinn story in other venues right right right and you know just for fun i want to see how kandes is like doing with the kanya let's take a look anti-semitism story if you're an honest person when you read this tweet you had no idea what the hell he was talking about i had i had no idea when i read this tweet what the hell he was talking about this tweet inspired questions not answers first and foremost what is death con three did he mean death con three which would be a military defense position not an offense for those of you that are offended a military defense position
Starting point is 01:12:20 seems like she's got a good angle on this one wow just uh i gotta go kandes kandes nailed it jesus christ oh i can't imagine saying that and match i mean if you're throwing if you can really say that with a straight face yeah i might pay you for that yeah i mean if that's a skill that i don't have if you're the person who's like the problem with hitler as he was a globalist totally totally i think that maybe you could say stuff like i know but man that's uh uh it's defense what he said death con that's what does he mean by that i what are you talking about yeah everyone knows i think if you say you're going blank on the jewish people anything blank on the yes going blank and then you capitalize jewish people yeah yeah i think i i there's no positive spin on that this
Starting point is 01:13:13 is gonna be tough this is gonna be tough and i don't think this spin oh by the way i watched most of her video defending ganye and the first 10 minutes are about herself and her hitler comments right right right like all right what are you making this about yourself i'm gonna go the last i'm gonna go the last third of job on the jewish people and give them twice as much shit as they already have yeah man twice as many kids today that's how it works wow so alex is pretty excited still because he got name checked in a celebrity saying something on tucker although the context of it is kanye saying i'm not getting into alex jones territory here and then tucker saying no but also it's okay if you do yeah man that's not a compliment no no no
Starting point is 01:14:03 anyway we get back to this paypal story and alex might it might feel like he's killing time here it's only a two hour show on sundays but it still feels like he's just trying to water on friday paypal came out with new terms of service and said if we don't like what you say about a list of issues global warming open borders gun control election fraud vaccines you name it anything that bill gates and his organizations of the southern primary law center of the adl says you say anything we don't like that's true of course we're gonna take two thousand five hundred dollars outside of law outside of law out of your account now the first thing i thought when i saw that once i got off air friday because i missed it it broke in the morning but i missed it
Starting point is 01:14:52 was this is the global social credit score but the second thing i thought was the most important point that nobody's been making until today and that's what frustrates this i don't want to do this all the time i don't have to people should get this they don't need me to tell them folks use your brains what's the big elephant in the room here with paypal saying if we don't like what you say we're gonna censor you yeah that's illegal yeah they're making their judge themselves judge jury executioner yes it's tyranny yes it's the social credit score but but what's bigger than that give six more examples let that sink in for a minute what's the issue oh my god it's the biggest of a bunch of bad ones wow of this power grab of this insanity
Starting point is 01:15:43 of this arrogance of this uh tone deafness that they think they could just do this and get away with it when it's right out of the book of revelations mark of the beast maybe i should open the phones up and oh my god question oh my god because if i just boarded out nobody cares but if i build it up because it's a big deal then some caller is going to call in and they're going to figure it out so at this point i was like he's waiting for a caller to say something that he can say is this yeah totally it's not the case he's just stalling but he does stall even more he goes up like i saw one person on twitter oh my god one person i spent hours going all through all social media trying to find anybody making this point i found one person
Starting point is 01:16:28 seems like a real waste of time uh probably not true yeah uh but yeah alex does actually get to it he spends and way too much time not getting to it feels like he not only didn't land the plane he crashed it into a giant ocean filled with jello and it's just garbage well sully sullenberger landed the plane right and then alex crashed into that part in the hudson yeah that's what happened that's technically a landing so here's what it is here's the uh the big enchilada that only one person was able to figure out and tweet out what is it that's so criminal that's so evil that's so wrong i'll tell you and i think most of you already know it they have anointed themselves to not just decide what speech is okay and what speech is going to get fined
Starting point is 01:17:26 and once you put up with not saying those things they're going to have a bigger list this is just the start that's all huge but what's even bigger drum roll please that's offensive to drums that is offensive they're spying on you they're watching what you say off platform remember facebook and google and twitter said we're going to censor you for what you say off platform it's not just that you're saying something they're going to find you for when you're using paypal but they're saying i'm watching you i'm surveilling you i'm spying on you so this is where alex's stupid misreporting of stories
Starting point is 01:18:13 becomes creating stories out of whole cloth he doesn't understand the underlying story about paypal and how this wasn't a fine they were going to charge you it was related to fees that would be placed in your account if you're sued for crimes that involve the platform because alex doesn't understand the underlying story here and just as a loose grip on the headline he's read on like a right-wing blog he thinks that paypal is going to find you $2,500 if you write a post on your blog that says that climate change isn't real now this introduces a problem how is paypal gonna know that you're blogging about unapproved things so they can find you in order to accept the inaccurate and incorrect version of this story there needs to be some mechanism in place for it
Starting point is 01:18:52 to even work logistically so alex has written that part of the story for the audience pulled straight from his imagination consider how stupid all of this is if you believe alex's version paypal would have needed to set up a super expensive part ai part manual system to monitor all of its users behavior offsite to see if they're doing anything that they could get them find that would require spying on like 400 million people which would be really expensive it would be expensive to operate but the infrastructure to do it would also take millions upon millions of dollars to set up so they sink all that money in knowing that they're going to be able to recoup their losses with this fine system you know they're gonna start raking in that
Starting point is 01:19:31 sensors uh censorship cash but then oh no what's this the right wing media is complaining about the terms of service and just like that years of investment and implementation of a worldwide censorship ai system has to be thrown out and the terms of service just go back to normal this is legitimately what's implied by alex's narrative this is what you have to accept whether you realize it or not in order to take on alex's version of the story which is inaccurate because he didn't actually read the story or look into this at all and you just make them shit up on the fly to freak out the listeners i i'm gonna go out on a limb and i'm gonna say that it would be hard to sell the shareholders on that move of like okay guys here's what we're gonna do i know spying on
Starting point is 01:20:14 i know black rock or whatever i know you like making money how about this uh we spend all of it on spying on everyone yeah and that's gonna be good because we'll find them sometimes right right but if they stop doing bad things our whole business model goes out of the window right that is it also that's also an issue i might i might argue that could be a problem but but at that point we'll live in a utopia so we'll already be out of we'll take the hit you know if we have to suffer to create an ideal world we'll take a paypal sized flyer on this one yeah yeah i got you what are they surveilling are they surveilling your i guess your social media blogs can you tell somebody they can't they can't spy on your texting no pay pals in your phone yeah damn it yeah
Starting point is 01:21:05 they've got everything paypal is everywhere don't think you can encrypt anything either no you can't paypal sees all i mean does alex not think that maybe it would be limited to how you use paypal as being the the the main deciding factor of whether or not they can uh cause a problem like they couldn't they couldn't they could not be like ah one time on twitter you said something mean uh-huh that's that's you can't do that no not really no and when it comes to like kicking people off social media for offsite actions it would be something like you know you're engaging in hate rallies yeah yeah you went on tucker carlson and we're in anti semi can't use our platform to organize and gather an audience when off platform what you're using that audience for
Starting point is 01:21:53 is trying to uh go to death con three yeah let's throw this one out there uh uh if uh if hind rec himmler was like uh making a lot of money uh off of his bad people and we were helping him do that that's bad for us we don't want to do that that's bad well i mean like okay so like there's also some things that are like clearly all right we know what you're doing maybe it's not on platform sure we know what you're doing like let's say for example you started a go fund me yeah and you pretended that it was to get like a surgery for your dog right or whatever but in reality you were funding for um a neo nazi newsletter that you wanted to put out you might suggest that's fraud right yeah and that's off site but that's off platform behavior sure on
Starting point is 01:22:42 platform all you know is that uh maybe maybe your dog does need surgery sure you're just ignoring it yeah well yeah yeah you're a bad person i lost track of this comparison but i was enjoying it though the point here is alex is full of shit he's just making shit up yep but this is what happens when there are like misunderstandings with the underlying story that alex has if that's true yeah then what else is true is essentially the game that alex is playing but the first thing isn't true right so the second thing that's built on top of it is just absurd yeah yeah excessive bullshit yeah it is it is fun because you can say the premise of the idea and people will just kind of already be on board with it when if you even look at the premise you go that's not possible
Starting point is 01:23:28 in a fundamental way paypal is put in a kill switch inside everyone's heart no no so anyway if you take the false version of this story and then exaggerate it the way that alex does with the implications of his false story of course it's a lot easier to get really angry about it yeah well there's not words to describe this paypal came out and said we're watching and surveilling you on our platform what you're buying what you're doing who you're supporting and we're watching you everywhere else well who is watching us who are these criminals who are they globalists they don't need to just be boycotted their stock doesn't need to be down 11 percent
Starting point is 01:24:13 the company needs to be shut down the people that did it need to go to prison for the rest of their lives because they're a danger against everybody else and they're run by the big banks that thought in late in the year 2022 it was a good time long after they banned alex jones to come out and say listen you dirty filthy americans we're watching your ass and if you do one thing we don't like we're gonna find you and kick you off our platform what a group of criminals but i'll tell you it was really pathetic it's us it said put up with crap like this and turn our world over to people like this we deserve everything we've got i want to give you the transgender mafia that folks are waking up to oh my god developments
Starting point is 01:25:05 there the fuck you on the other side fuck you dot com tomorrow's news today stay with us yeah i got it i gotta go you know that he brings up a really good point okay they will find you $2,500 and kick you off the platform now as far as i'm concerned all things considered that's not that bad as far as tyranny is concerned okay i'm fine $2,500 that's a lot of money for me but it's not going to bankrupt me i'm not going to go i'm not going to die you know and i'm kicked off and i can't use paypal there are other services you can't go to debtor's prison no you'll be and paypal can't continue to find me i don't work i'm not i'm not on their platform anymore right the maximum they can hurt me with this $2,500 and it helps this world but they could do some damage on your credit
Starting point is 01:25:54 score have you considered this and then once the social credit score sure but they're still that they're still not surveilling me anymore it's a one-time surveillance no that's not true how is that not true because they kick you off the platform in terms of being able to use right but they're still spying on you why why not that's a good point that is a really set up i can't i can't answer this question i cannot answer that i guess if it's in order the cost fallacy is why they continue to spy on you if it's in order to find you then i guess it would imply that they would stop after they kicked you off the platform but no one else i think that there's probably something else going on here what they're actually doing is creating dirty dossiers
Starting point is 01:26:41 literally everybody so they have leverage or something to use against you at some kind of a battlefield earth right right scenario okay all right i don't know i'm back on board then this is a great idea from their part i was exhausted i watched all of the tucker interview and alex's shit and i just heard him say the transgender mafia and i'm like all right here we go i'm i'm out of here bye um so yeah this sucked um what a sunday well you don't pay pal narrative yeah of a conspiracy of the day and alex not realizing that uh kanye was not complimenting as he you know for for as much of a christian as he professes to be has he considered not doing his sunday show and going to church instead i think we'd all be
Starting point is 01:27:28 better off well jokes on you sunday shows four to six oh shit goes church in the morning is he a noon noon church guy no i don't think so he was busy looking for tweets that agreed with him i was going to say he just yeah whatever he has said that he goes to tex marz's church though uh which is another guy who seems to have a problem with jewish people yeah uh weird all over the place and alex's man yeah so terrible so strange paul joseph watson too yeah uh uh yeah probably a coincidence anyway we'll be back jordan with another episode and i'm sorry to do this to you as a as a fan of kanye's music oh bad i've been yeah that yep man what you're gonna do i don't know we'll be back for another episode uh but until then we have a website indeed we do it's now let's
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