Knowledge Fight - #735: October 12, 2022

Episode Date: October 14, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss how Alex Jones responded to news that he'd lost about a billion dollars in the CT case involving his lies about Sandy Hook.  He whines a bit, acts tough, and then talks ...to a guy who physically met Jesus, which is all pretty on brand.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight, need money, Andy and Kansas, stop it, Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray, Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding me, I'm a huge fan, I love your work, knowledge fight, knowledge fight dot com, I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight, I'm Dan, I'm George, a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of saline, sing my way and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Indeed we are, Dan, regrets, Dan, I've had a few. What is your regret spot today? Actually my regret spot today is kind of interesting, so, interesting, Alex Jones as we all know lost a big, big, big verdict on Wednesday and as is sort of tradition because we put out too much content, the instant reaction that folks had, I got a lot of messages about oh there's going to be an emergency episode tonight, well that was on Wednesday and on Wednesday's survivor happens, me and my friend Angela Lampsberry generally get together and watch Survivor although we've not been able to, it's already like three episodes into
Starting point is 00:01:49 the season. It's been a struggle, no I understand, we've talked. So we have this whole thing of like everyone wants an emergency episode and simultaneously everyone's like hey Dan, take a day off, torn between two worlds. It is a difficult situation. So I went and watched Survivor and that's my bright spot, the new season of Survivor, pretty fun, some fun characters on it, but also I went over and I got this enamel pin from Angela Lampsberry, this is Kevin from Up the Bird, oh that makes sense, you love
Starting point is 00:02:20 Kevin from Up the Bird, my favorite thing, it is your favorite animated character of all time. It's so playful, makes up for how bad Up is as a movie, yeah I said it. That's dangerous, I think everybody remembers the first five minutes and then forgets the rest of it. I have some troubling feelings about that movie as a whole and that first five minutes was a problem. Dark, I didn't ask for it, it's not the darkness of it, I have some unpopular opinions about
Starting point is 00:02:48 whether or not their relationship was healthy. I did an entire podcast about this years and years ago back at Stand Up Days, so I don't want to rehash it now, but Kevin the Bird, saving grace, still the best and I love this enamel pin and the fact that it has a stand on it because it's so big, you can stand it up. Now that's good stuff. That's going to be with me forever, so thank you Angela Lampsberry, I appreciate it, bright spot.
Starting point is 00:03:16 What about you? Bright spot Dan is, two albums got dropped, two on the same day, very very good, not sure if it was the same day, but whatever, Freddie Gibbs album, Freddie Gibbs killing it, everybody for the past, his last three albums, they're like he's the best rapper, he's pretty great. And then the Yeah Yeah Yes came back with a new album, the Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know and you know what they sound like, a different band. It sounds more like Karen O's more recent stuff, but it's great, it's really good.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I like it. I like them both. I got to be honest with you, what the Yeah Yeah Yes are right in that spot where like I think I was in college when they were really popular and I hated the people who were into quote college rock and they got put in that box. That's fair. But I do know maps from rock band. This is not, I should know we're all very excited for that.
Starting point is 00:04:07 We're all really happy you know maps from rock band. That's how I discovered. No, they have a really interesting backstory. It's kind of fascinating you know that New York pop. No, no, it would be dance punk scene from with the Rapture and LCD sound system and Yeah Yeah Yes all coming up at the same time, release their their debut massive album on the same day as a, and the blueprint, the blueprint, same day. It was also 9 11.
Starting point is 00:04:42 That was also the reason that I remember that specifically. It happened on 9 11. You buried the lead a little bit. That was there. That was my personal 9 11 is 9 11. Yeah, I was actually, I just as you were saying that I got really deep into my head about like how much stuff I discovered through rock band. Sure.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And honestly, like my parents didn't like the Beatles because they were very druggie. And so there wasn't there wasn't like that influence in my childhood. Right. I couldn't explore a ton of like older music as I was coming up. Right. Like a lot of all of that energy got put into weird hip hop. Sure. And so like that I have a encyclopedic back.
Starting point is 00:05:21 You are a Saint Lunatic, my friend. That's my tattooist. How St. Louis I am. Exactly. But look, I don't I don't have that about classic rock stuff. Sure. So a lot of that is kind of like, sure, big blind spot where all this classic rock is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:35 It's what I was getting to is the Beatles. Yes. The band came out. I didn't know most of those songs. And then yesterday is on there. I was like, I know this song. I just didn't know it was the Beatles. Ah, that's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:05:52 22. I have, I have popular opinions about the Beatles and how much I despise them. Wow. But what are you going to do? Well, let's not get into it now. Let's do it another. No, it's not the time. So Jordan, Alex lost a case.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Yeah, I've heard the verdict came in on Wednesday. And like I said, people tried to get me to not watch Survivor with my friend bastards. But I persisted in watching Survivor. And here we are. Excellent. We didn't want to do this on Mike because it would run the risk of getting a bunch of champagne on my table, but we have a bottle of champagne indeed that we are raising. This is a Argyle is the name of a brute.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah. And it's also Argyle. The fitting name street here in Chicago in uptown. True. You used to live a lot of our, a lot of our episodes recorded on Argyle. Not true. Ainsley, the street. Oh, you're right.
Starting point is 00:06:45 You're right. Over my bed. Yeah. That was my old hood. Yeah. The podcast started. So it's very fitting. And so, yeah, we're having a little champagne while we discuss this sort of going back to
Starting point is 00:06:56 our roots. Absolutely. Yeah. I wish I could get bogeljub champagne, but it was just bogel. I understand it was bogel, but if we were going to get one, yes. I feel like that wasn't the first wine we drank. No, no, no, no. The first wine we drank was very cheap.
Starting point is 00:07:15 So was bogel. Yes. Anyway, Jordan, today we're going to be talking about the events of the 12th. That is the day of the, the announcement of the verdict. This is Wednesday. And so there's a couple of things that we're going to be covering. Certainly this will be incomplete. We'll have an episode that comes out this weekend that'll be a little bit of a special
Starting point is 00:07:34 thing for folks. Of course. But then on Monday, I hope to get into a little bit more even of the aftermath, but I decided that what we would do is we would talk about Alex's response to the verdict, a little bit of the war room. Yeah. And then Alex did a special show that evening. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And so we'll talk about that. I hear what you're saying is thoroughness is the enemy of immediacy. That's what I'm hearing. Yeah, generally. Yeah. And sometimes things need to marinate a little bit. That's how it works. So we're going to get into this talking about October 12th and the bullshit that happens.
Starting point is 00:08:04 But before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new one. Oh, that's a great idea. So first D of team stats. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you so much to hi to Brianna from Rob.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next kudos to judge for her restraint and not throwing a gavel at Alex. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And I should be clear. That was about the Texas case. Yes. Let's not worry about it. Next Robert. I love you.
Starting point is 00:08:39 That's from Andra. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And I hope you know Robert. And this isn't a weird thing that's happening. Not a parasocial thing.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Yeah. It would be creepy. Yeah. And the goblin king of England. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:08:56 That is Paul Joseph Watson, according to some. Oh, okay. And we got a technocrite in the mix, Jordan. Okay. So sister Petra. Oh no. Oh. It says pronounce Petra.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Oh, you started reading too fast. From the top. All right. Let's edit that part out. Sister Petra for being my fellow wonk and shouting and learning with me as from Elkie. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrite. I'm a policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow actually. I'm just going to take a little break now. A little break for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm going to start the show over. But I'm the devil. I got to be taken out of here.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I did all this. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. He may never have to come back here tomorrow. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:10:22 At some point. That is a good point. He's not better today. No. I have another context drop for you to enjoy. I could fart and have a million viewers and I'm not bragging. It's just true because you're awesome folks who tune in, but we don't fart here. We give you real information.
Starting point is 00:10:36 We don't fart here. We don't fart here. We don't fart here. If you want that shit, you go to only fans. I go to only fans for farts. Alex on only fans. No, don't don't. Don't.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Well, I mean, info, where's it going to go away? Why not info fans? There's an there's an interesting aspect to this that like, I think Alex could fart and have just the audience that he does because the things that he does aren't any more informative than far. That's true. That's true. These people are just stuck.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It reminds me of a French man. I believe it was called Le Petit Mane and he would fart, but he was really, really good at it. He could make a bunch of different impressions of animals through his farting. He was famous for having an enema every morning. He farted for Kings, my friend. That is how great he was. He was an entertainer who farted his ass off.
Starting point is 00:11:33 All right. Well, Alex is farting for his life. I know that. That's a good point. So we all know why we're here today. So I decided to just blow past the first few hours of bullshit and rambling about nukes on Alex's show to get down to when the verdict is read. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:11:48 It's literally right after Alex had signed off in the fourth hour of his show. That is this is him going to break for commercials at 16 after the top of the hour. He just leaves. Get your X3. Get your vitamin mineral fusion. Get it all at infowarstort.com. All right, Jay Dyer takes over the next 45 minutes. Please magnify the broadcast.
Starting point is 00:12:18 You are the power. You're the reason we're successful. Share the links tonight. Tell folks tuning into this emergency broadcast. Naturally Alex did not leave and Jay Dyer got the bump because after the commercial break, Alex comes back and here's where we are. All right. Jay Dyer was set to host, but they just handed me a note during the break.
Starting point is 00:12:39 What did it say? And it is verdict will be read in about two minutes. So that's from my lawyer, Norm Pattis. It's being announced. They had a total show trial. They are now having the secretary of state in Texas said they want to sue me for questioning the election saying I unleashed hell on them. They didn't question the Texas election.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Republicans won. But just total made up crap. That's an unfortunate reveal of Alex's true feelings. He didn't question the Texas election because Republicans won. Duh. Sure. Sounds like someone who's driven by concerns that are sincere about election integrity. Hey now, that might be him revealing too much in an offhand comment that he didn't think
Starting point is 00:13:23 anybody would pay attention to. He was above the left-right paradigm. Totally. Because Republicans won. And that's when you're above the left-right paradigm. So about this, the Texas secretary of state came out and made some comments about how severe the harassment that election workers had been getting. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Right. And Alex Jones is, you know, definitely a part of that. Yeah. He's mentioned. He's not going to get sued for this. That's that's not. I don't think that was even in a, I read an article on the Hill about it. That wasn't even like a part of like he should face consequences for this.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Sure. Realize that there is this consequence for the actions. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. We're already, we're already there.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Alex goes to the verdict. And I will say to his credit, he is not under any pretense that this is going to go well. Okay. But just total made up crap where, where a public official, including an FBI agent, ever said his name, don't know who his name, didn't even know who he was. So he sued me, suing me for $550 million. As part of this, they want 8.25 billion just in the first count. There's four counts.
Starting point is 00:14:26 That's what the lawyers asked for last week. For questioning Sandy Hook, never said the name of the FBI agent. So now bureaucrats can sue you under this precedent for asking questions. So they're about to announce the verdict. The jury took like four days of deliberation time, not kind of the weekend to come back. Here is the judge. Let's go to the audio of the biggest show trial in U.S. history with the jury. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:14:50 We'll see if they saw through it. I don't think they will. They're already told I'm guilty. Here it is. See if they saw through it. See if we, we peeled them. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I don't think we did. Hey, let's throw this one out there. I chanked it and I don't think it went well. It might as well have been him being like, I'm going to get down on my knees for a little while. I'm going to pray into this microphone and the news is going to be bad. But at the same time, I'm under no pretense that this is, there's no good news coming folks.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Let me ask you folks, you know how much I believe in God? Well I don't believe in him enough to think he's going to help me out here. I am not going to get a miracle. No. There's no prediction about this. He actually, he has some, some numbers in mind. All right. The judge looks pleased, probably $200 million.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I don't have any money, so it's all a big joke. This is their trial. This is them on trial. There's Blumenthal's son, the anti-gun Democrat running all this. Yeah. So this is, this is a good way to experience it. One of the lawyers is the son of Senator Blumenthal. And so, of course, this is all because of that.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yeah. No, no, no, that makes perfect sense that it is a convincing thing that Alex is saying right now. I find myself persuaded. I mean, it's obvious. So this is, yeah, $200 million is what he's saying he thinks. Sure. He does say that he had it all hands meeting like a couple of days before and he predicted
Starting point is 00:16:21 a billion. So I don't know if there was something about the judge's body language that talked him down from that billion prediction to $200 million. Right. But as the $900 million plus verdict comes along, he's like, I always knew it was going to be a billion. Yeah. Well, it's nice to be an asshole for once and then all of a sudden be like, ah, see,
Starting point is 00:16:41 I was right. It's also nice to just play fast and loose with predictions. If the only hashtag for Alex Jones was right was him predicting he would lose a billion dollars, I would, I would agree. I'd be like hashtag Alex Jones was right to be fair. I'm not sure there's any public version of him predicting that outside of that's fair. That's fair. So Alex has some feelings about what's going on in this courtroom and they're pretty troubling.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Please pass the verdict to me and you can be seated. So this is a weird comment because in a way what he's suggesting is that he's some kind of an unwilling Christ figure for the media by sacrificing him, they're purging their own sin and casting it onto Alex, but Alex hates the media and he doesn't want their sin. So this is just bizarre. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I mean, so wait. So Alex has hated the mainstream media for forever for doing things that he insists that he never does. Right. However, the mainstream media has apparently chosen him as the avatar for all the bad things they do that he does. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:07 So he's admitting that he does those things. I, well, I don't know, no, not, I don't think so. He is without sin. That's why he must be the vessel for their sin. Yeah. They don't tell that about the real Christ story. He's kind of an asshole. Well, he killed a kid.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I mean, not just that. Well, I mean, he fought dragons. He killed a kid. He brought the kid back to life, though. Whatever the case, Alex does sincerely look at this as like, I am a Christ like. Sure. The Virgin Nuclear War. This is happening.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I questioned the mass shooting. I questioned Jesse Smallwood. WMD's in Iraq. I'm a thought criminal. Judge found me guilty. Full of jury. How guilty I was. She's pausing to give the media time to all dial in, but they're full effect.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Try to give credibility to the corporate system again, which they'll never bring back. It's a dinosaur trying to be resurrected. Come on, crucify me. Let's get it going. I really feel like he's getting impatient with the process and just being like, well, I'm doing a show and yeah, I'm tuning in for the verdict so I can do like some sort of a pageant about it. And there's Lawls here and I have to fill that time right, right?
Starting point is 00:19:28 I'm doing a show, right? And that that's kind of a tension. No, no, no, no. So what you should do in the trial where the point is you made a bunch of money off of hurting these people is try and make a lot of money off of hurting them when they, oh, no, that's bad. Well, that's pretty much what's going to be happening. I mean, here's a plug in the middle of waiting for the numbers.
Starting point is 00:19:53 People are pathetic. They're rule of discovery is over. So proud of our work. So proud of your support. Get two years of appeals now. They won't shut us down. You support us. In four store.com.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Seven fours.com. Donate now. Fight these monsters. Yeah, I mean, you know, there's downtime. The court, they're shuffling papers around. The bailiff's coming up to get the papers and what have you. Why not throw in a little saving for wars.com, baby. And if he was in the courtroom while the bailiff was shuffling papers around, he'd be like,
Starting point is 00:20:26 I got to go outside so I can say that people need to donate money before the verdict is read. Also buy food. Yeah, absolutely. There's a there's a weird thing where he's saying like the judge is pausing in order to get the media to tune in for maximum impact. Right. He knows that more people are tuning in to him to see his reaction to the totally the
Starting point is 00:20:48 verdict. Totally doing these like plugs in the lull between the is playing the the same game he's accusing the court of doing. I will give the judge perhaps some of the most credit that a a reactionary person as myself can give, which is that she read pages upon pages, like 15 pages. I don't know how many pages of them so quietly didn't laugh, didn't say a word, didn't show it a motion. She was reading out a billion dollars and was like, hmm, a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Interesting. You know what the you have to do to pass the secondary bar that gets you to be a judge. Just faceless. Yeah, what you have to do is you have to wear one of those clear helmets with a scorpion and oh, that's a good idea. You know, no reaction whatsoever. Exactly. That's smart.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah, that's smart. Yeah, to be able to keep a real stiff upper lip. I swear. I don't know if I could read that first page. She read the first page as an adult, a human adult, and it said a hundred and twenty million dollars. And she did not immediately go. You have a job in a position in an office and all that, but you are a human and it's
Starting point is 00:22:03 it seems tough. It maybe you don't laugh. A miracle to go. Yeah, something like whoa, Nellie or make some facial like nothing. Yeah, nothing. She was dead. It was it was amazing probe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:17 So anyway, Alex is he's saying is this two years of appeals and that may be fairly close to accurate in terms of how the the the projection of how the process could work. Sure. But he also is losing faith that they're going to read the verdict. Oh, yeah. He's getting so annoyed with the pauses. Save him for worse.com info or store.com. That's how you resist getting great products at the same time.
Starting point is 00:22:42 We will going to appeal this. We're in such a journey. They'll probably say no on the appeal, but two years left. Whatever or the edge nuclear war doesn't even matter. It shows how tone deaf these people are. But I want to air a report. I said I would get to it. I didn't weather weaponization, a hurricane, Ian, of course, 5G control your body.
Starting point is 00:23:00 They want to poison injection control your body. They want to be able to control the weather and they admit they're doing it all. But they say it's an conspiracy theory and we talk about it. All right. So we can all wait. They're coming back. Oh, no, got to push back that weather. Well, I mean, if here's the problem, if weather weapons
Starting point is 00:23:19 are real, right, honestly, losing a billion dollars doesn't seem that important to me. I'd be like, they have weather weapons. All is all bets are off. If Alex's shit was real at all, there's so many more important things to do than a million. Who cares? Naval gaze. Totally. Your your trial.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Yeah, absolutely. But I know it is what it is. Now, why are you mad about millions of dollars when 90 percent of the population is going to be dead soon? Well, yeah, nuclear war, millions of people being killed by the covid vaccine, weather weapons, the whole thing. Boy, it's severe. But also look at this court. He's not having a good time.
Starting point is 00:24:00 So but he is. He's having a great time. He's very positive. That's not good. And just bear with me, all right. Corrupt, guilty system. Wanted to scapegoat me as a bad guy when they're the bad guys. No one believes them. Everybody hates them.
Starting point is 00:24:17 That has happened. Their system's over. They know it. They're in full panic mode. This is exactly what I expected. It's very busy. There's a pump upness to it. There's positive like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:28 All right. There are the bad guys. I knew I was walking into the lion's den. I'm not surprised there are lions there. Yeah, I got it. And, you know, we talk about this a bit, this dynamic of Alex interpreting consequences and negative feedback as virtue, as symbols of virtue.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Right. And so for this, it's like, it's basically a revealing of how virtuous. Yeah, yeah. Well, in understood in Info Wars world, this is like, how over the target am I a billion dollars over the target? I have 965 million good person units that I was awarded
Starting point is 00:25:05 yeah, in this trial. Now, I know that says they get money, but I got good person units in now. That's not real. And now there's the problem. Actually believe that deep down. No, but that is the public presentation of it. So when we get to the first count read for the first plaintiff,
Starting point is 00:25:22 which is Robbie Parker, right? He ends up with a hundred twenty million dollar judgment. Day. Yeah. And here's Alex to plaintiff Robbie Parker day. Defamation slash slander damages past the future. Sixty million dollars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Emotional distress damages past the future. Sixty million dollars. Total fair justice. Reasonable damages to plaintiff. Robert Parker and against Alex Jones and free systems. And line A and line B total one hundred and twenty million dollars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:57 By Joe. Woo. Woo. Here's what I'll say. Yeah. If they sued me and got a judgment of one hundred and twenty million dollars, you know, I'm going to laugh and shout because fucking go for it, man.
Starting point is 00:26:14 You can have all of my money and a hundred million dollars. We got like fine, you know, what you're suing me for is what I've got. Alex actually has a hundred and twenty million dollars. So that first judgment must have been like. Oh, fuck. Well, I mean, like if I'm sued for even if I have a hundred twenty million dollars per se.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Sure. If I'm sued for it and the judgment is being read and I also have other cases that are still pending. That's not good. I'm probably not going to laugh at that judgment. Right. That looks a little bad in terms of like, you know, we want to play this for other courts.
Starting point is 00:26:51 True. We hit him with a billion dollar judgment. And he went, ah, you're right. It probably leads one to believe that these these penalties cannot be high enough. Right. In terms of getting him to change any of his behaviors. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Right. So he's he's kind of experiencing a moment like, like how I loved the nuclear bomb. Like it was it was that kind of like he's he's Slim Pickens on the nuclear bomb just riding. But Slim Pickens dies immediately after that. He doesn't have to then go to court. Well, that's why it's art.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah. I mean, it's like a child who gets sent to time out and you have to go sit in the bathroom and then they break things in the bathroom. Yeah, it's like, well, well, there's no time out. It's not going to work. We have to escalate this out. The sun is available and we have rockets.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So yeah, I mean, basically all you can do is cheer. Francine Wheeler, a deformation slash slander damages past the future. Twenty four million dollars. The emotional distress damages passed in the future. Thirty million dollars. Yeah, they're just in reasonable damage to plaintiff Francine Wheeler and against Alice Jones and free speech
Starting point is 00:28:05 systems at my A and my B total fifty four million dollars. Yeah. There's nothing really more insightful than that. Yeah. Woo. And numbers. I mean, it's just it's I think he's just trying to put a brave face forward and again, play into that.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Like this means I'm so right. Right. They're that afraid of me. Right. I don't know. I find it a little bit boring. Honestly, as a response, I mean, I can't. I can't imagine my response because that's an absurd.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Like, I mean, again, there's so many steps you would have to go through to get to the point where you would be experiencing this response. Well, it might change you along the way. Definitely and prepare you to be a shithead in that moment. For sure. I think just I wouldn't be surprised really if hearing those words didn't come off as unreal to him.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Like it was a fully surreal moment for me. Like the moment the first moment they said 60 million dollars, I lost my shit. Right. You know, like I was like, I can't believe that this is pretty surprising. It was. And I imagine for Alex, it has to have been like, well, this is
Starting point is 00:29:14 clearly pretend and I'm dreaming, you know, because he's very little attached to reality in the first place. Sure. Yeah, sure. I don't know. Is there any movie about this that Alex can pretend was predictive programming for him? I'll tell you this, not fucking yet.
Starting point is 00:29:29 No, there will be fingers crossed. One day you get to make that movie, Jordan, and the casting will be weird. It is going to be weird. Um, so yeah, I mean, there's just a bunch of celebration and like, it just feels like a game to him. Honestly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Get those numbers up. Two planes at the end. And they're not done. They're going to get to everybody. This is like her damages past the future. Thirty eight million dollars. Good. The emotional distress damages past and future.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Forty three million six hundred thousand dollars. Total family. We don't have a million. I'm not happy. I want to be the billion dollar man. And against Alex Jones and three seats. So close at line A and line B, eighty one million, six hundred thousand dollars.
Starting point is 00:30:12 It's initialed by your one good. Yeah, good. So yeah, he keeps saying like, bump it up. Yeah. You know, at a certain point, it's like, well, you're gonna, if you're going to have all this above, you might, might as well like make it comical. Yeah, it does feel like this is your like, this is your team in
Starting point is 00:30:31 the Super Bowl, right? And you're down 21 three. And the other team is at the 10 yard line. And you're just like, yeah, man, run up the score. I want to lose by a hundred. That sounds fucking great, man. I didn't like this football game anyway. I want to set record.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Totally. Yeah. If we're going to lose, we should lose by the most there's ever been. Right, right. Yeah. Losing by a hundred in the Super Bowl just proves how right you were about football means that I was better at football than anybody. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And he, you know, along the way, there's not a whole lot of content, but he does take a couple avenues to introduce some like, I don't know, anti-trans commentary. Great. 18 million, six hundred thousand dollars. So this is what a show trial looks like. I mean, this is the left completely out of control, doing whatever they want. Like drag queen story time to make and have a baby.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I mean, this is what they do. This is their, this is their, their panacea. 57 million, 20 million, 50 million, 80 million, 100 million, blah, blah, blah. You get a million. You get a hundred million. You get a 50 million. Nice Oprah there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Reference to Oprah. Yeah. Yeah. That was your friend, Oprah Winfrey. Uh-huh. Yeah. He enjoyed her show. Look, I mean, there's not a lot going on here outside of this.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah, I imagine so. I'll be, I'll be totally clear. I mean, if you want, you can watch the video and see his facial expressions and what have you, but like, it's just a bunch of, yeah, yeah. Bump it up. Make it higher. Oh man. What if he had played my way slowly, like a little bit underneath the verdict?
Starting point is 00:32:06 It would have been so much more fitting. Oh, that would have been great. That whole pageant from the other day would have been perfect to you. Immediately. Like interspersed with the verdicts being read, like 60 million dollars. You know, like that's what it should have been. Yeah, but it would have had like thematic, uh, artistic purpose there. It would have been a show.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Yeah. Yeah. Whereas this is just kind of boring. And I think Alex even gets bored of listening to these numbers. Yeah. Okay. So this is going to take hours and hours here about the billions and billions and billions I owe.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Let's put up drugs report right now for people. Oh my God. Billion dollars owed by Alex Jones. I personally don't have two million dollars. The company's almost completely out of money. We're in bankruptcy. There's two appeals. It'll take years.
Starting point is 00:32:52 There's caps on almost all of this. This is just completely, absolutely made up. And now the Democratic Party run, CNN bought it years ago. Literally, I was told that. Drudge report is just up there celebrating this. They want to scare everybody away from freedom and scare us away from questioning you, Valdeen, what really happened there or Parkland or any other event.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And guess what? We're not scared and we're not going away and we're not going to stop. And literally for hundreds of thousands of dollars, I can keep them in court for years. I can appeal this stuff. We can stand up against this travesty against the billions of dollars they want. It's a joke.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So please go to infowarstore.com. He's decided that the drug report is bad now again. Sure. Sure. So that's fun. Anyone who reports that he was not the hero who received an unfair kangaroo court billion dollar judgment is now even these shifting alliances are are hard to keep track of when the devil's involved.
Starting point is 00:33:53 So Alex, I mean, this is in the fourth hour. It takes a while for these verdicts to be read. And so Alex runs out of time and the war room starts. And I thought Alex would be riding shotgun with absolutely just stay in the chair. No, no, Owen takes over boo. And I will say, Owen, the tries to put on a brave face. Let's hear it. All you all you Democrats, all you globalists, all you evil freaks, all you pedophiles,
Starting point is 00:34:21 all tuning into info wars today, hoping that you're going to be celebrating and basking in our depression, our oppression and the attacks against us. No, we've never felt better. Actually, you've given us the biggest victory of all time. You've confirmed that everything we've been fighting for is is is real or you confirmed everything we're fighting against Israel. You've only you've only solidified our dedication to the truth. This seems convincing.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Oh, man, man, if everybody was celebrating my downfall, the last thing I would do was get up on a public place and be like, I'm not downfalling. No, no, no, no, I'd be like, I'm not mad. I'd be like, I'm going to go away. This is a billion dollar judgment against the company that is the only people who would ever employ me in any media capacity is that is not a problem for me. I think I would have my recipe on the screen and I would be deleting the years I worked for info.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I would also be showcasing skills on air. I'd be juggling spinning plates. I'd be just doing whatever I could to be like someone fucking higher. Frankly, with Owen, just demonstrate basic Excel skills. That'll go a longer way than anything else he does right now. So one of the things he does, not juggling, not Excel, not plate spinning. He interviews Norm Pettis. Norm comes on to do a post mortem.
Starting point is 00:35:49 What? God, how does that how does that man live on the day to day when he wakes up and looks at his dumb ponytail in the mirror every morning? What does he think? You know, you've ever seen that faithfully video by journey? No. So the music video, you know, the road is no place to start. I'm like, sure, sure, sure. There's a shot in it that always sticks out in my mind. And that's Steve Perry as a mustache.
Starting point is 00:36:16 There's a shot of him very soulfully shaving his mustache, looking in the mirror. And there's just after a beating like Norm had in court, I just picture him like looking in a mirror and just soulfully cutting off the right. Shouldn't he have to? It's like, I need a rebrand. I just feel like there's some sort of war in your code where if you lose that back, like I'm not saying that there's any kind of it's just, you know, you cut your ponytail off if you lose that bad.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I will say to Norm's credit and one of the few times I'll say that. Yeah. Owen is trying to do this like we're actually as happy as we've ever been. Norm is at least has the perspective of like that was a beating. Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, good, good. There's a lot of things we can do, but that was bad. I was about as bad as it could go. Yeah. And so Norm, actually, his message that he brings to Owen is so bad,
Starting point is 00:37:09 the alien starts with a B and it might end with an S. Norm Pattis representing Alex Jones in this case. He was in the courtroom there. He has joined us on the phone now. So we're going to get his first response to this one billion dollars. Norm, it's time to start cutting the checks. Yeah. Well, let me, you know, either that or print more monopoly money. It was pretty astounding.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And what's more, that's just the beginning. There'll be an attorney's fee application, which could increase this by about 40% to the 1.4 billion. And then Judge Bellis will also have the ability to make a separate finding on punitive damages. So by the time this is done, it could easily be two, two and a half billion dollars. It's like, oh, and you think this is bad? Let me double it for you.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Man, I, I could not be happier with Norm's wet blanket on Owen's bullshit. Brave face. Well, I also think that this is probably a smart thing to do, because then if you end up with one billion, it's like, well, I'm the hero. Yeah, I could have been two and a half. Yeah, come on. I do appreciate that Norm really, really feels like in the moment that this is a problem that is worth two and a half billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:38:30 He really feels it. He knows. So it sends a chilling message, though. It's the thing. It's, it's to Alex. No, to other people who want to have free speech. Now, Alex has been just crowing constantly about how like this, he's going to appeal, you know, all we're going to fight this forever.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Norm is his lawyer and Norm in this clip says he doesn't know if Alex is going to appeal. Good call. But it's a huge verdict and it sends a chilling message. I think the message that it sends is, you know, if you are outside the mainstream media, if you're challenging the orthodoxy and the orthodoxy determines what you said isn't true, there's now a body of law, if this stands on appeal, by the way, and we will, I hope that takes the appeal, you know, that would say you're responsible for what anybody said, if you've uttered an untrue.
Starting point is 00:39:20 That's not the message at all. And if Alex takes the appeal, Alex is fundraising for the appeal incessantly already. So that doesn't feel right. No, he should be saying we're already at work on the appeal. I mean, he should be saying that Alex is fundraising to avoid having to deal with. I mean, here's the problem with an appeal. OK, is it an appeal, unlike at this current trial, they can't bring in the evidence
Starting point is 00:39:48 that, you know, there was already a $50 million judgment against Alex. At no point in time in the trial could they be like, hey, jury, just so you know, we've run this game before and Alex lost, you know. So in an appeals court, you could be like, hey, guess what? Four separate juries awarded billions of dollars. Well, but the question becomes, like, is there a procedural problem with this case? Sure. And that would be what you would be appealing on.
Starting point is 00:40:19 And if Norm, as the lawyer, like he would know what the grounds for the appeal are. Sure. And he would probably be involved in it as Alex's lawyer. Well, he would be the reason that it's a mistrial. That's interesting. Yeah. Hey, this one's on me. This one's my deal. Oh, did I get the worst judgment in history? Nah, man, I got the biggest mistrial in history. But yeah, this feeling, though, the sentiment that consequences are a sign of virtue. Right. It's just like a constant through line.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Everywhere. Owen is very deeply entrenched in that. Oh, God, I think that just this just confirms it. I mean, most people would say that America is corrupt. Most people would say that this country has a corruption problem politically. And so then you would make the statement. You'd say, well, how do you know who's fighting the corruption? Well, who gets attacked by the establishment the most? Who gets attacked by the deep state the most?
Starting point is 00:41:12 Who do they go after the most? And once again, the name is Alex Jones, the the institution, the news organization is Info Wars. Now, I don't know if you can get into the future as far as you know, appealing this or whatever, because I know the audience is going to want to know, you know, what what the future might hold as far as appeals are concerned. But, you know, I'd get your response to it like this.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Let's try to put it into a real world situation for the future. Let's say that back in. December of 2020, you go on air and you question the efficacy of the COVID vaccine. Well, oh, now you're getting sued by the companies that made the COVID vaccine. But here we are a year later and now they're admitting the COVID vaccines are not safe or effective.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Folks, that's what they're trying to silence is somebody saying what they believe to be true, which might ultimately be the truth. They don't want it out there, nor. So no one's getting sued for that. Right. And like, here's a short list of claims that might be actionable against Alex for family members of people who lost people, I mean, to COVID, who didn't do anything because Alex said it was safe.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Remember when he said it was like it was a race specific bio weapon? I mean, that seems like something that might be weird. Or when he said it was only killing males. That was that was a little thing. I feel like what Owen just described. David Icon and David Ike said viruses aren't even real. That's true. You only accept them into your body. But David Ike hasn't even been sued for these things.
Starting point is 00:42:37 No, I feel like what Owen just said is we're grateful that the vaccine itself does not have grounds to sue or a consciousness. Because if it did, it would. Well, no, I think the virus would. Oh, Alex. That's a good point. The virus owes Alex a lot. I think that Owen's example that he's using there is shit. And that's because Alex would never have been sued if all he was doing was questioning a shooting.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You have to come up with these fake arguments because the underlying points that he's trying to make just aren't true. I mean, the price is entire show is evidence for why this is different. Like he does all the stuff that he says. He's like, oh, I question this, I question this, I question this. And no one has a problem. It's this that he's getting sued for. How is that not consistently pointed out to them?
Starting point is 00:43:25 It seems relevant. It does. Also, this brute is not very good. Are you sure this isn't like a giant champagne filled champagne bottle shaped thing of Cologne? Oh, man, you are a kind of cologne. I'm going to tell you this right now. The Willamette Valley is not going to be happy with your reviews. Nothing but respect for Willamette Valley.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Hey, as much as I love Oregon, I'm going to tell you something Willamette. So Norm, like I said, I think some of his perspective is maybe a little bit more forgivable or at least more palatable than some of the other folks. And this one, I think, is right right in there. And that is the norm being like, if I hadn't shown up, it wouldn't have been like it, maybe he'd be better off. I think that's what they used to do to dissident and install on Russia. Now, I, you know, yeah, the Sandy Hook parents were lovely people.
Starting point is 00:44:14 They made good witnesses. There were things to argue about in this case that the court didn't want to hear argument about it. I had to move mountains to win the right to make the limited little arguments I was permitted to make in that courtroom. But the bottom line is if I'd stayed home, Alex wouldn't have been much horse off the court just didn't want to hear from me and didn't want to let the jury here. It's debatable like you might have been better off.
Starting point is 00:44:40 There's no men shown up or any other lawyer who didn't say, hey, maybe these people are exaggerating their grief. Yeah, maybe a different different lawyer maybe would have done better. I think I think Norm's exclusion from this case might have been advantageous to Alex. I will die believing that if they had not presented any defense, if they had just been like, listen, we do not have any defense for our actions. The judgment would not be a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I would say so. Yeah. I think that they made things worse for themselves. Absolutely. If if there was just sort of like a opening statement and closing statement about like the philosophical idea of what we tried. This is what happened. Maybe we went too far. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And then they were just like, no questioning.
Starting point is 00:45:30 No. Yeah, I think they would definitely come out looking better than the way things are. Absolutely. Well, what is your apology if your apology isn't in the opening statement and the closing statement? Well, and it doesn't it doesn't work to your advantage to have Alex yell about how this is a struggle session. Real problem. It's a real problem. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, Norm, Norm, he's he's pretty chill about this.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Sure. I'm sure you now know, Billy, Alex Jones are getting attacks from probably sides that you never expected to be attacked from. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm just getting phone calls and text messages. You know, I'm aligning my lawyering and suggesting that, you know, that I either through the case or that I'm incompetent and that I'm scum. They said everything else. I believe all three obviously it hurts. I don't like it, but I'm not going to pay a whole lot of rent for the space
Starting point is 00:46:29 I occupy in other people's heads. That's their problem. Not mine. Haters are going to hate haters. I got to hate haters are going to hate haters are going to hate. That is that is the voice of a man who is going to get paid despite having lost a billion dollars. And I lost a billion dollar case. It is what it is. Hey, buddy, guess what?
Starting point is 00:46:48 Hours are still billable. The haters going to hate hate. Hey, listen, Alex, sorry about that. It's going to play play play play play play listen, shake it off, shake it off. Alex, you know what the most important lesson for a lot of people is? What's that? When to take the L and Norm knows this is an L. It's time to take it. Maybe you pretend that you could have won or something.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Nope, but don't fight it too hard. No, no, just if I had if I had had my druthers, we could have won. If I could have said anything, right, right, right. Then maybe that as it is, it was going to hate. Turns out that lying is not OK in court. Hater is going to hate. So Norm believes that there's a question that no one asks about info wars. This is the essential question.
Starting point is 00:47:36 OK. And the question that nobody asks and that or which there must be an answer is, you know, what what makes Alex an info wars and you so popular, you don't hook people on some sort of drug that is foreign to their body. You talk about things that are obvious to them and that no one else talks about. And until people begin to understand what makes a show like info wars or Alex Jones or Owen Schreuer popular, they're asking the wrong questions. I agree with Norm that this is a factor that's underappreciated
Starting point is 00:48:08 in terms of understanding info wars and misinformation in general. But his conclusion is childish. No one actually gravitates to info wars or Alex because of his handle on information or the idea that he talks about stories. No one else has the nerve to cover. And I would say that there is a drug that he hooks as listeners on, even ignoring the dumb placebo supplements that he sells at huge markups. And he sells to people by pretending that they have a deficiency that he can solve.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Yeah, like you don't have iodine in you. So you need it. Yeah. Alex creates emotional hooks that get into people and that operate very similarly to how a drug might. The truth or falsity of things, Alex says, don't matter to the audience because he's eliciting a feeling that they believe is true. Some story about an immigrant murdering a white woman that Alex yells about may not actually be true, but the audience doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Because to them, the feeling he's promoting with that story that you should be afraid of immigrants and that they want to kill white women is true. That's the majority of what Alex has gotten his skill set, evoking feelings. And it's pretty easy to see why his show is successful, while Owen and Harrison are just pathetic also rands. They can't stir emotions like Alex can. Owen's just doing a bad Alex impression most of the time and doesn't come off as sincere at all.
Starting point is 00:49:21 And Harrison's just too clearly a whiny baby dweeb. They can get a little bit of traction, but they can't come anywhere near to even being like Alex's second because they can't do this. That's why PJW sucks on Alex's show, but he's really successful on YouTube. In that format with the quick cuts and the weird close ups on his face looking very emotional, Paul is able to make the audience feel things. Even David Knight had a bit of this, which is why part of why
Starting point is 00:49:49 it was so dumb for Alex to fire him. To you or I, David Knight was a painfully boring snooze, but his rhetorical style was good at reaching the older demographics who really don't care for Alex's theatricality and yelling. He could elicit feelings in the older crowd. It was supplementary for the people that Alex can't hit. Exactly. Yeah, anyway, no one goes to Info Wars because they want information or hard hitting reporting.
Starting point is 00:50:13 That's the lie they tell themselves, so they don't have to admit that they're going to Alex for a hit of emotions that they crave for some reason or another, usually to justify unjustifiable positions that they have like racism or homophobia, right? They're able to intellectualize those feelings by Alex appealing to those those feelings. No, and we we all instinctively know this. Not least of like if you want to get into brain chemistry, the the feeling you get from being right over and over again
Starting point is 00:50:43 during a broadcast, you know, like Alex so often consistently massaging your ego, you know, how different from that is getting high for three hours, you know, and Alex yelling about how you've saved the world. Totally. And you are saving the world by giving him money. Yeah, absolutely. Jerk my ego off or I get high. Like it's very similar kind of things, you know. Yeah, not too dissimilar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:07 So Owen wants to sue people now, too, because like, well, it's fun to do. Well, it's popular. People just got a billion dollars. It's time to sue. Yeah. So people call him a racist. And so he wants to sue like as he's a racist. Well, Norm has an interesting response here. Let's hear it. You know, it's funny hearing you say all that, you know, I'm banned from pretty much all big tech platforms, can't take an Uber, can't take an Airbnb.
Starting point is 00:51:26 People call me a racist all the time. Instructionists, all these lies about me. I wonder when am I going to be able to sue for a billion dollars? Norm? Well, you might you can try. You just got to find a jury that's willing to give it to you, you know. Yeah, you can try. That's probably not the response that you want to hear from the lawyer. I go for it. I mean, you can't because you never win that case.
Starting point is 00:51:46 You know, you can try in private. That's the response that you want to hear from a lawyer on your show. You want to hear, hell, yeah, we can all sue tomorrow. It's going to sue. Norm just took that big out. So yeah, I mean, it's tough to do a show. Yeah, place. This is like an hour later. Oh, man, if I had just walked off a stage after bombing for an hour,
Starting point is 00:52:08 I would be very difficult to talk to. Go here. What if you just ate shit for like a half hour set and you came off stage to a bill of a billion dollars from the bar? You drank the wrong bottle. That is not far enough, relatively speaking, from a lot of my life. In my world at the time, my bill, my bar bill was about a billion dollars. So look, the interview is not very interesting past past this. Not a lot of insight you're getting, you know, sort of a lot of the same.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Like we're going to appeal. It'll take two years, right? Blah, blah, blah, give Alex money. The law. Yeah. So the war room, nothing. The rest of it's just O and B and O and I don't care. Garbage. So later in the evening, Alex comes back and he does his evening emergency broadcast. And by this point, he's got himself a clip of Chris Maddy on the on the steps of the courthouse afterwards with the families behind him
Starting point is 00:53:06 giving a press conference. And Alex plays that this is this is sort of his thesis. He plays this a lot of this clip. He plays a bunch. So they got our financials and they default to this. They know we don't have any money. So he gets up and he says, don't give him money so we can't appeal so they can shut us down.
Starting point is 00:53:26 That's their mission. Obviously, Democrat Party, Ambulance Chaser, King Daddy says, don't give us money. What do you do? It's it's totally disgusting. Let's play one more time and go to Steve Quill of Sequel.com. Listen to your enemy saying, do not support us. Listen to this, but we will be at it as long as it takes.
Starting point is 00:53:48 And if you're out there right now and you're one of Alex Jones's audience members and you're considering giving him money, I just want you to know that based on the jury's verdict today, it's not a very good bet. And to go back with to what Robbie Parker said, all Alex Jones does is take from you, exploit you, lie to you, feed your fears and your anxieties and your mistrust. And the only person that benefits in that equation is him.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Well, that stops that stopping today thanks to the courage of these families. Thank you very much. Thanks to your rig court and all the rest of it. No, nothing stops. So two things stick out to me here. The first is that this notion that Maddie would have a plan to discourage Alex's listeners from donating.
Starting point is 00:54:31 So Alex wouldn't have enough money to appeal the case is super dishonest. Yeah, if this case was as much of a railroading as Alex insists it is, he should have no problem finding someone to defend him pro bono. For instance, how about his good buddy who clearly feels this case is a threat to the future of the world? Media star Bobby Barnes. Hey, Bobby Barnes. Or if any of this were true,
Starting point is 00:54:53 that this case impinged on fundamental constitutional rights. The ACLU would be all over defending Alex on principle. They have defended so many goddamn Nazis over the years. Alex is not worse than them. If this was a principle matter, the ACLU couldn't you couldn't stop them from begging. Oh, my God. We can't wait to show off how ACLU we are. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:16 The second thing is that tone at the end there where Alex is saying this isn't going to stop is probably unwise. There's still the pause in her case to go, you may remember. And if Alex lets himself fly a little too freely, it feels like that could haunt him, particularly because that case is the one where he is super guilty and the damages could end up being way higher than the Lewis Heslin one. Alex is trapped in a space between being essentially impotent to change reality
Starting point is 00:55:41 and needing to appear defiant to the audience or risk the cash drying up. If what Norm says means anything, sure, you know, it could be a while before this appeal is decided and Alex ends up losing that and likely ends up being sanctioned a ton for abuse of the appeals process along the way. But if the audience loses heart, that's a bigger danger. I went over to Save Infowars, the fundraiser they had to see where things stood. He was about two hundred thousand dollars on the afternoon of the 13th, the day after the verdict came in.
Starting point is 00:56:12 So this is the evening of the 12th. OK, and so he was about two hundred thousand. That seems to be about where, you know, he can muster. Alex went all out on his show. Owen did what he could on the war room. And then here we have Alex doing an emergency broadcast that retroactively became part of a marathon that became that started at eight a.m. that day and then went till midnight.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Owen spent like three hours taking calls after Alex left in the first episode of Alex's long awaited all callers show, which actually still isn't the thing. It was just filling time. Sure, they pulled out all the stops. And also, this is the tally after Alex's show on the 13th. And this is where they got to. It's a respectable number, for sure. But it's not going to do shit for him in terms of staving off bankruptcy
Starting point is 00:56:55 or paying lawyers enough to fight this two year appeal process. It seems like the free market is saying that the demand for Alex's show just doesn't justify its existence anymore. And I don't know, like I said, this this is never going to stop. Thing is making the lawyers, the plaintiff's lawyers case for right. Right. Right. Right. OK. So if one million is point one percent of a billion, right? Am I right in saying that?
Starting point is 00:57:21 It's a thousand millions. Right. So one is 10.1. Yeah. Yeah. So that would be point zero two percent of the total amount needed. Well, to pay that off. Yeah. But yeah, the notion is I need enough money to pay the lawyers share and make the business appear profitable to the bankruptcy court. And then it'll be smooth sailing. Right. So maybe two hundred thousand dollars appears to be close to enough
Starting point is 00:57:50 of supplemental money. Right. But it's it's it seems like not enough. If he gets a billion in Bitcoin, it will really narrow down the number of people who could be. That's true. You know, like the suspect list is a lot shorter. Eight million is that's a fairly wide range in America now. But but I think I think logistics put aside the fact that they could do this, like really go all out, have a billion dollar judgment against the company.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah. And that's what they can muster out of the audience is not good. I mean, like we just sort of sending buttons to people for free. Right. And if people want to donate to charity, right, they can. Yeah. And we've raised, like what, thirty five thousand dollars plus nothing, nothing to fucking shake a stick at. Right. It's not two hundred grand, though. But we also don't have a billion dollar judgment against us. And we're not begging people to donate to it.
Starting point is 00:58:47 You know, that's a big part of our overhead, keeping it low. Thirty five thousand dollars for charity feels like two hundred thousand dollars in Alex's like his circumstances. Yes. I just think it's a bad omen of what he can muster out of the audience. Yeah, they should. They should be over a million. Yeah, I would think based on well, actually, the fundraiser, the goal is five hundred thousand. Right. So and they haven't reached the goal.
Starting point is 00:59:14 They should have hit it. They should reach the goal. Yeah, absolutely. If anything about Alex, his reach, his audience's commitment, any of that were like meaningful. Yeah, I find that to be a real, real L for Alex. Right. If we actually had 10 percent of the world listening to Knowledge Fight, we would be able to drive more than two hundred thousand dollars. I'm just going to say that. I would hope. Yeah. Or it shows a real lack of engagement and commitment.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Yeah. Anyway, Alex has had tons of people offer him jobs. Sure. But he doesn't give a shit. Oh, they should take one of them. Like Landscaper. No, because he'd be a good landscaper. He's talking about media jobs. Oh, he was not going to take those because he would be fired from them immediately. Yeah, well, that's true. But he reached out, tried to find somebody big to have on for his marathon. And of course, he's got Steve Coyle, the guy who believes in biblical giants. Right. We've got dozens of organizations
Starting point is 01:00:13 ready to put us on air anywhere. You're not shutting crap down. We're intensifying. I'm going to launch a whole new show in defiance of you. Steve Coyle, one of the icons of the Liberty Movement, we're totally vindicated. World government out in the open, poison shots, nuclear war, all of us here. Everybody's been vindicated. And of course, that means I don't know if you saw down.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Where was this? I think this was over by Navy Pier. There were a bunch of giants. Oh, shit. Yeah. Oh, my God. The last time. So here's the problem. Like we've I've lived in uptown for five years when I moved into uptown. Unfortunately, it appears that I was gentrification, but I wasn't anywhere near as bad as the giants who've moved in in the past year. I mean, they're nice giants, but they take up a lot of my God. So many tall buildings now to give them a place to live.
Starting point is 01:01:03 It ruins the lakefront views. Skyline. You have a skyline. So look, they just talk a bunch of bullshit about how World War Three is here. Well, naturally, and we're, you know, it is World War Three is here. And it's because, according to them, the international bankers and globalists were afraid because Putin went to the gold standard. Sure. Meanwhile, Putin, you know, he just wanted people to respect his borders. That was his whole thing.
Starting point is 01:01:28 And then like you went to the gold standard and everybody else. So mad. Is he on the gold standard? I feel like he's on the oil standard. See, that's a problem. That is Russia didn't go to the gold standard. Well, that's a problem. They just announced that they would buy gold from domestic institutions for a stable fixed price from March 28th to June 30th, 2022. They didn't anchor the rubles value to gold, which is what Steve is saying
Starting point is 01:01:51 that they did in order to justify this conspiracy that the globalists want to start World War Three over. Right. Russia made this move because they have a giant domestic gold supply. The Kratz vet met plant in Siberia is one of the biggest in the world. And after they invaded Ukraine, these domestic gold producers were barred from selling to international markets. That would be really bad for a lot of folks with a lot of money and valuable commodities. So Putin announced that the Russian government and the central
Starting point is 01:02:18 bank would buy their gold at a set price to offset these setbacks that were caused by invading Ukraine. Right. The way the United States does for like cheese and shit. Yeah. This was set to start on March 28th and the price was set at 5000 rubles per ounce. However, that announcement made the price of the rubles jump about 20%. And on April 7th, Russia decided to go back on their announcement and begin buying gold quote at a negotiated price. Very Russia of them. The rubles had gained in value.
Starting point is 01:02:46 So they were getting screwed on the set gold price. So they decided to end it months before the program was set to run. So just to clarify, Steve is saying that the globalists want to start World War Three over the fact that Russia put their currency on a gold standard. But in reality, the rubles isn't on a gold standard. And the short term buying of gold at a set price was just done to offset some of the market inconveniences that came after invading Ukraine. You could say that Steve is on here just spouting and complete bullshit
Starting point is 01:03:10 in order to spread pro-Russia messages and talking points. But and this is not pro Russia. This is pro truth. I stand correct. Right. I got you. So that's that's a large portion of what they end up talking about. And I'm not super interested in it. And yeah, there's a decent chance I would skip past some of it. Yeah, some weird stuff ends up happening.
Starting point is 01:03:31 All right. That actually I kind of enjoy. I'm interested. So Alex, one of his big the ways that this is profitable is there is a very severe thing that's happening. But there's a chance we can stop it. Sure. Right. That's the game. There needs to be there needs to be that window that maybe we can get out of. It's going to be expensive. Tragedy. We cannot stop.
Starting point is 01:03:53 However, if you donate to us, we can stop it. There's a chance. Exactly. So he asks Steve if this World War Three can be stopped. Can it do anything to silence the true silence of truth tellers, even to provoking World War Three. And this is the big issue tonight. Alex says we're on together. It's not something they don't want.
Starting point is 01:04:15 It's not something they fear. They want it with all of their globalist, Luciferian might, because at the end of the day, everything that you've talked about in all your videos, population, depopulation quotes, plans, how they're going to do it. We've watched millions, probably more like at least, I'd say, 50 million people dead worldwide on COVID. Why would you believe that people have never
Starting point is 01:04:39 I agree. So can we stop it or is it biblical? Is it unstoppable? No, it cannot be stopped. It cannot be stopped. It cannot be stopped. These are the days that obviously the Four Horsemen, the Apocalypse, the Book of Revelation, by the way, they, the left uses or the press makes repress
Starting point is 01:04:58 my how they're interchangeable. They use those biblical terms. Hunker the fuck down then, right? I mean, how do you say that and not also be like, hug your loved ones? You know, like you're saying to me that global thermonuclear war is inevitable. Well, even beyond that, Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Yeah. Explain to me why I go to work the next day. Well, unless your job is digging a hole for your family to hide in,
Starting point is 01:05:26 I don't know why you would. Well, then let's go dig a hole for my family. Right. It's insane. I mean, conceivably, it's go to the bunkers, right? I mean, that's the only choice. Unstoppably said it three times. I mean, OK, so here's I feel like the game that is happening there is he's playing a game of chicken with apocalypse where he's like, OK,
Starting point is 01:05:47 go to work, have some time, go out and eat dinner all the time. But it's coming. So you got to guess. Well, I will say that I think that Steve said shit like this before and it hasn't really hurt his career. So I think he's probably he's probably a little bit jaded to consequences. Well, the last time Alex claimed we would get hit by a nuclear bomb, I feel like he he suffered consequences for it, right? None. Oh, also, Steve is like an end times guy.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Like he's on Jim Baker's show, like he's one of the few people on Alex's show that has like crossover to Baker. Yeah. And like, so it's just kind of his thing. Sure. It's always unstoppable. It's always the end times. It's always coming. We're already in the first of the the circles, etc. Now, like I said, yeah, I would have skipped this, except something happens and they talk about Jesus a little bit.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Now, you know, I love it. Steve has an interesting relationship with Jesus. OK, how can you? OK, let's hear it. So we're skipping breaks tonight. So we got a few minutes left, Steve Cuell. I appreciate your budgeting time, Steve Cuell.com. Talking about your awakening, your understanding. It's an amazing story and just the fact we got to get right with God right now.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I think more importantly than anything, we should get right with Jesus right now. Spend a little time on that. Well, thank you, Alex. Number one, when when you had asked me and just getting the bottom line, the Bible declares that the testimony of Jesus is a spirit of prophecy. God is the only supreme deity and being the God of the Bible that that can tell the end at the beginning.
Starting point is 01:07:24 And, you know, I had an encounter with Jesus physically saw what and he gave me a panorama of history. Yeah, he physically saw Jesus. What's a panorama of history? Well, we've talked about this before. He's said this on we've discussed him saying this on the show before. Right, right. You can see the beginning in the end in his own life.
Starting point is 01:07:47 But also we'll get to this later. He brings he clarifies a little bit that God doesn't give him every bit of information. Yeah, that's nice of God. Yeah, it's sort of like going through fog, you know, like you can see something a little bit ahead, but not, you know, like not for a ways off. Right, right, right. So he can see like the next talking point.
Starting point is 01:08:06 God gives him that much vision, sure. But not like two, three, four steps down the road. One thing I noticed about one thing I've noticed about God, huge fan of plausible deniability. He loves giving you just enough information to convince just enough people but not enough information to prove it. Well, what you don't understand about God is a strategic flexibility. That is such a good God thing to do.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Yeah. So Steve tells the story of meeting Jesus in the flesh. And I remind you, this is the night that Alex lost a billion. I believe he lost a billion dollars. And here's how we're spending our time. All right. In this case, Alex, I accepted Jesus at a Hal Lindsey meeting at the Student Union building. I didn't know, you know, how Lindsey explained to me who Jesus was. That's the first time I had anybody explain me who Jesus was.
Starting point is 01:08:53 The savior of the world. When you saw him house. My mother's house is eight blocks from Montana State University. I walk into my room, which I had a bedroom in the basement. And the bottom line is Jesus physically appears. By the way, I wasn't drunk and I wasn't doing drugs. And I go slow. Jesus, all of a sudden.
Starting point is 01:09:12 OK, OK, I fell at his feet as one day and I couldn't get up. I couldn't get up. And the glory of the Lord. And when I say glory, if you want to know what Jesus looks like, go to Revelation chapter one, because when he lifted me up and I said, Lord, who are you? He said, I'm Jesus, your savior, and I'm giving you a Joseph's ministry. I didn't know what that meant.
Starting point is 01:09:36 I didn't know who Joseph was when he looked into my eyes. Every cell in my body exploded with his love, his forgiveness. I had an understanding of just the magnificence of God, though. I couldn't have told you one Bible story, you know, probably maybe one Adam and Eve. And the bottom line is that we're like it was so overwhelming for three hours. I asked, I guess you would say, praising him in his in just the presence of a living God.
Starting point is 01:10:05 And after that, he told me I would know him. Now, understand, this is not a dream. This is not a vision. This is like terra firma on Earth, and he said, I know him. Don't do that ever again through his word. No. And Alex fast forward. And, you know, after this experience, I had to go and speak to an assembly of God, pastor, because he's the only one that could let me know
Starting point is 01:10:27 what it meant to have an encounter with Jesus Christ. So he was on campus. Sure. And he went to a Hal Lindsey meeting. Right. And he accepted Jesus, right? Not knowing anything about him. You know, weird thing to do. Literally knew nothing. Weird thing to do.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Went home. Yeah. Went to the basement. Had one. Boom. Jesus. There he was. In the flesh. Checking him out. Wow. What are the odds? Explain to me. Explain to me honestly.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Why is Jesus going to Montana? Gorgeous country. Well, that's fair. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. You know, I saw Jesus once. Oh, like actually, but not in a manic break. Yeah, exactly. I had a manic episode and I was having so many hallucinations. Like it was one of my first ones.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I was gone for like two or three weeks. And I remember seeing Jesus. I was playing pool in my basement where I was against Jesus. No, no, you can't play pool against Jesus. But no, I remember him like appearing and talking to me. And I was very much like, yeah, man. Jesus was like, use the horse. It was it was cool being in a manic episode
Starting point is 01:11:45 when Jesus meets you because at the same time when you're in a manic episode, you're like, it's nice to meet you as equals, Jesus. You know, like I'm the savior of humanity. You're the savior of. We've got a lot in common, man. Well, it certainly is someone you'd want to meet in a vision other than like Pete.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Yeah, you know, just a random hallucination. No, no, no, totally. No, no, no, it's like what everybody talks about. Status hallucination. It's like what everybody talks about their past lives. They're like, oh, I was Queen Cleopatra. And it'd be like if you're a past life is I was like, I was Dave and he died at five.
Starting point is 01:12:19 You know, like that's that's not exciting. So leaving all that aside. Yeah, we have Alex doing a show where Steve Coyle is on talking about how he physically met Jesus. Sure. And Alex is being like, yeah, I bet you did. Love it. So great. Top five things to do. Now, if we accept this as reality.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Sure. Game changing. It does seem like that. Terms of believing everything Steve Coyle has to say, because he has been, well, I mean, I'll just let him say it. He's been chosen by the Lord. Oh, no, I don't know why God chose me. A lot of people say, well, you're such a blah, blah, blah. But God chose me.
Starting point is 01:12:56 And he when he said he'd give me a Joseph's ministry, that was to prepare the people of God as we come into these and time. No, it was a Jose's ministry. It was very different. You know this, you've heard me so many times. I always tell people, look, it's not like I just sit down and figure this stuff out.
Starting point is 01:13:13 But God in his mercy and in his calling to me opens up events before my eyes and I get flashed forwards. You know, so when you talk about Jesus appearing to you, people say, oh, man, that guy's on LSD. No, I wasn't. I was on heavenly. You talked about not being able to get up. That's been my experience.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Like Moses couldn't even see God. It's like I've had it happen a couple of times. I can't even I'm just like, it's like, but I don't. It's like total knowledge is beamed. Yeah, yeah. And God's God dump stuff into you. I call it a data dump. I think Alex is like, I think what he has is night terrors.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Yeah. Like he's describing not being able to move and like so many of the things that he comes up with are based on movies he's seen and they're horrifying. And that kind of feels like maybe he wakes up with like sleep paralysis. Yeah. Like I don't know that makes total sense to me.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Whereas Steve is just a lunatic. I had a really terrible instance of sleep paralysis one time. I was in this place in fucking Bloomingdale, Illinois. You woke up and you're watching Jesus play pool. No, no, no. I woke up and you know, in that night terrier where you do the hallucination thing, I woke up and there was a man in a wheelchair slowly wheeling
Starting point is 01:14:32 his way into my room. And I don't know why that is so scary, but the speed at which he was doing it was like, wow, he's not even trying to murder me. And there's nothing I can do. You know, it was that kind of a lazy ass murder. Yeah. It's not even a hard murder for this dude.
Starting point is 01:14:50 You know, yeah, it's tough. The real night terror for me would be like if I'm there and I can't move. Oh, right. Sleep, sleep, sleep paralysis. Sure. And then like Kevin, the bird comes in and I can't hug him. I'm going to start throwing her.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Excuse me. I'm going to break into your place and start throwing Eric the bird. Kevin, Kevin, sorry, my bad. So yeah, I think Alex has night terrors. I think Steve is delusional and good use of time on this emergency. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Did they lose a billion dollars today? It's so weird. Is this what you do? So anyway, evil, I guess we would be included in that. We're afraid because Steve has met Jesus. Ah, it doesn't sound true. You know, this drives people crazy that don't want to admit there's a tradition.
Starting point is 01:15:33 This is the Satanist end of rage. Because this is real. I mean, this is like you were able to look into Christ's eyes. I couldn't even do it. Like I mean, I was just like hammered on the floor. That's how you know it's true. This is so dumb. Yep.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Anyway, they spend quite a bit of time on this emergency episode talking about, well, you know, World War 3. Russia's cool. Russia's great, actually. Right. And then quite a bit about how Steve met Jesus. Right. I mean, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Apocalypse, a country where I wouldn't be prosecuted and the salvation of the earth. Yeah, that does make sense for I've lost a billion dollars that day. Alex would be prosecuted in Russia for something else. That's possible. That's possible. You'd run afoul of some wall.
Starting point is 01:16:20 If you weren't friends with Putin. So Alex says goodbye to Steve Cuell. Farewell. Give the Giants my best. Sure. And he has some other guests. Look, we got Robert Barnes that worked on the case for two years and he was so busy and everything else.
Starting point is 01:16:36 He went on to other cases. So we're going to sue him. He told me, he said, they're going to default you. It's all fraud. He was right. And I didn't completely listen to his counsel. That's my fault. But he joins us when we come back after this very short,
Starting point is 01:16:48 important piece on weather weapons. He finally got to it. How dare you? He finally got to it. How dare you? How dare you get to weather weapons right now? It took him hours. He tried to get to it right before the verdict.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Of course. When the evening show, he's finally getting to the weather weapons. Finally there. It's time. There's continuity. It's a payoff. We've got to kill time before Barnes shows up.
Starting point is 01:17:10 So yeah, Barnes is coming on. I love the idea that he was too busy. He was too busy. That's why he didn't follow through with the case. The idea that Barnes was like, hey, let's cooperate fully. And Alex said no. Infuriates me so hard. Bobby Barnes is like, let's do this by the book.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Totally. Get the fuck out of here. I swear to God. Yeah. So Barnes is on. And the two of them just talk shit with each other about how everything is unfair. The world is against them.
Starting point is 01:17:47 They're heroes. Everybody's mean. And there seems to be a through line between Norm also comes on a little bit. But Barnes and Norm both have this suspicion about how Chris Maddie said, don't donate to Info Wars. That's not a good investment, not a good bet. And they're like, hey, shouldn't he
Starting point is 01:18:09 be wanting everybody to give money to Info Wars? Because then his clients get more money. It's like trying to. I don't think you're making the argument you think you're making. Well, they're trying to fundraise off like, hey. They're trying to fundraise off of them telling their people that they're going to lose their money if they fundraise. Yeah, kind of.
Starting point is 01:18:29 But they're also like, secretly, we're not going to give them any money. So everything is fine. Yeah, it's very weird. I find it uncompelling. Yeah. But one thing I do find compelling is that Alex, I think, maybe had a few pops because he seems to be.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Soda pops? No. He seems to be communicating a little bit differently. Again, the whole thing, the billion dollar verdict is to scare everybody. What is this really meant to do? And then you predicted this on the show two weeks ago, a week ago, and in Connecticut two weeks ago,
Starting point is 01:18:57 you said, this FBI agent that never said his name to him, who the hell he is. Yes, we know, man. If they can get public officials to sue people and win because you question a public event or criticize the government, they have victory. Well, here is this Texas major government official. Secretary of State was in hundreds of newspapers
Starting point is 01:19:21 yesterday. Every Texas TV station that we looked at said Alex Jones. How you doing, buddy? Hell, by questioning the 2020 Texas election. I didn't even question Texas. He seems to be suffering to get these words out. Yeah. That's a bit of a struggle.
Starting point is 01:19:43 I don't know if he's had a few drinks or if he's just gassed, but it's very weird. I swear to you, in this one instance, I cannot judge anyone's behavior for the moment after they receive a billion-dollar judgment. I just I don't know how you would behave after that. What's the baseline? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:20:08 I mean, yeah. I feel like getting absolutely shit-faced beyond all reason makes just as much sense as anything else. No, if Alex came on and he was wearing a lampshade, totally, and was just like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, and it brought the llama back. It had symbols. It was just bouncing them together.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Yeah, that makes more sense than going on trying to defend yourself. Yes. I would have no qualms with that. What do you have to lose? I would have no confusion, nothing to report here. Alex was wasted. You know what's crazy?
Starting point is 01:20:43 Maybe for the first time in anyone's life, you could have true clarity after receiving a billion-dollar judgment of just like, you know what? Literally nothing I do matters at this point. Well, you know what I think would be fitting, too? Like, that episode's from like way back, where he gets really drunk and yells at Adam Schiff and talks about jizzing on a human skull.
Starting point is 01:21:05 I remember that. That should be what that showed tonight. Yeah, absolutely. That should be that show. Totally. That would make sense. Absolute insanity. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Yeah, yeah, that would make sense. But instead, this show where he talks to Steve Quayle about physically meeting Jesus and then is like burping through sort of banal conversation with Robert Barnes, it's like, I don't know. That's disappointing. Yeah. Start screaming about art and skulls and the ways to learn.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Come on, buddy. I've not said this before to too many people, but Alex, I think you should get drunk at work. If there ever is a time when everyone would think it's fine. Totally fine. Absolutely, yes. So yeah, I mean, Alex is just like, they're not getting my money.
Starting point is 01:21:51 And as long as people keep InfoWars on the air by buying products that they like anyway at good prices, they will lose. I mean, that's not good price. Regardless of what happens with the courts, whatever goes what happens with the bankruptcies, regardless of what happens with anything else out there, as long as the people stick with InfoWars,
Starting point is 01:22:09 they cannot break through that line. And notice Chris Matty said that. Don't give him money. Supposedly his plaintiffs are going to get it, but he doesn't want that. It's his mission to silence us. No, they're not getting any of the money, folks. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:22:27 And what it shows is that what they have figured out is that the audience is what keeps InfoWars alive. And they thought they could use this public smear campaign through a public show trial. That's what show trials are all about, public smear campaign. To be able to get the audience to turn away from InfoWars and Alex Jones. Yeah, so Alex, I think the journey
Starting point is 01:22:49 past the Steve Quayle portion of this episode is just kind of the same shit he says with Barnes normally. Yeah. And then just a progression of him audibly falling apart. OK. It's about getting the InfoWars audience to not listen to itself, to not support itself, to not embrace itself.
Starting point is 01:23:10 To not share with itself. That's what they, that's right. We're a rallying point that they hate. They hate the audience. And he's trying to speak up there. Don't give it support. I don't want my plaintiffs to get money. Oh, it's not about that.
Starting point is 01:23:25 It's about silencing us. Completely. It's all about getting people the best form of censorship is self-censorship. And what they want is people to begin to self-censor their support of InfoWars. Good on Barnes trying to do some heavy lifting to carry the weight there.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Yeah. Yeah, you can get a little bit of that vibe off Alex. It's not inspiring. I feel like the traditional stereotypical child of divorce with that hypersensitivity towards the moods of certain people as to like, oh, I know what happens next whenever this type of tone. When Alex starts talking with that kind of thing,
Starting point is 01:24:06 it's like, oh, man, I'm so hypersensitive to that. I know what's coming, man. Yeah, and just to not be seeming like I'm being a tease or anything, there is no blow up here. He just seems like. Not on air. No, good point. That's the point.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Yeah, there is just sort of a gurgly thing going on that doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. But it also isn't all that interesting. No, no, no, no. So Barnes says some shitty things. This was never about false statements. This was never about the families, frankly. They were simply the tool by which
Starting point is 01:24:47 they could try to shame the InfoWars audience into silencing InfoWars and such. Well, Robert Barnes, I've got to say, this isn't fun. It's not happy. But I'm proud to be the main target of these people. Stay right there. Let's bring Norm Pattison. You guys can respond to each other right now.
Starting point is 01:25:03 I'm going to just let you guys go back and forth. He was there. He witnesses. He's been gagged. I wasn't gagged, despite what the media said. They didn't. But now that the verdict's out, Norm Pattison can actually talk about what he witnessed and what he saw
Starting point is 01:25:15 and wasn't allowed to defend me. Yeah, I mean, like, why can't it be both Barnes? Why can't it be about the families and about what Alex did and also about shutting his ass up? That's a compound problem that is far beyond Barnes's ability to understand. It doesn't feel at all mutually exclusive. No, no.
Starting point is 01:25:35 In fact, almost symbiotic in their relationship. Yeah. So as this goes along, Norm says a lot of basically the same shit that he said with Owen earlier. And he is giving long talks. He wasn't allowed to talk in court. I will. I will say there was one moment that I didn't cut a clip from,
Starting point is 01:25:55 but I thought it was pretty cute. And that was like Alex Ask Barnes a question. And Norm is like, oh, I'm sorry. I've been talking too much. Aw. Haters going to hate. Haters going to hate, man. Trial and say the n-word.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Haters going to hate. But yeah, as it goes along, you just get the sense that Alex is just he's run out of gas. Folks, I'm in the war. You want to back us back us. I've been in this so damn long. We've got nuclear war. They've killed 20 million people with poison shots
Starting point is 01:26:21 and all going on. I'm just going to keep being a man to the end. And everybody's feeling sorry for me. Don't feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for the millions of illegals brought across. Hundreds of thousands of kidnapped kids. Feel sorry for kids at drag queen story time their parents take them to.
Starting point is 01:26:35 I mean, look, I'm a man. I'm tough. I can take it. Well, keep me in the fight. Back us in foreshore.com, saveinforesh.com. But man, this is just so shameful, Barnes. Oh, it's completely shameful. It is a shameful moment.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Maybe one of the most shameful moments in the history of American law. Oh, I thought you got the show. Wow. That you're doing right now is shameful. Oh, no, it's a shame to American law. Oh, sorry. I misread that.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Yeah, I don't know if Barnes has ever said anything more true unintentionally. That's the most, that's the most true thing I think he's ever said, honestly. So, you know, have Alex like being like, hey, fuck it. You know what? Give us money or don't. Come get us.
Starting point is 01:27:16 But that's, that is still like a desperate plea for money. Yeah. It is the appearance of like, I don't, I don't, he's trying to make the audience. It's bravado. It's bravado, you know? Yeah, yeah, totally. I don't even want your money.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Hey, listen, I have got so much money. I mean, I'm bankrupt. But I got so, I'm powerful. I've got the will. I got the will to give me your money or not. I don't give a fuck. But seriously, give me your money. It's admirable.
Starting point is 01:27:39 It's not. No, but it does lead to Alex doing an interesting plug. Interesting. And it leads me to think things are worse than he wants to let off. But I mean, working you donate better. You heard the plaintiff's lawyers, the Democrat anti-gun creature say,
Starting point is 01:27:55 do not give Alex Jones money. It's a lost cause. He means you're a lost cause. He wants to break your will. He hates this show because I'm a focal point of liberty and freedom standing against these creatures. But I'm not worried about it the other day. I've already hit the next level in this fight.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Thanks for your support. And there are so many up-and-comers and so many great leaders. I'm seeing God's vision unfold here. But I've got more to do in the fight. So go to 1776coin.com, 1776coin.com. It's a fundraiser, man, the arena coin. There's a special running right now.
Starting point is 01:28:34 I was 1776coin.com with the promo code 1776. You get $30 off of the coin. You get the coins, a fundraiser coin, infowarstore.com or 1776coin.com. So the idea of this coin is we're selling it at a high markup as a fundraiser for the show. So if you want to buy this, it costs more, but it's symbolic of...
Starting point is 01:28:59 It's really a donation. Right. So now we're offering this way cheaper. Yeah. Maybe it's not a fundraiser or anything. We didn't get the shit out of it. The fundraiser part is now optional. The fundraiser is good.
Starting point is 01:29:12 The fundraiser's good. But we got to get the shit out of here. It shows a lack of commitment to the idea of that fundraiser that has no chill to it, really. I'm going to ask you. There's an air of stinky desperation. I'm going to ask you a question. What exactly do you think I'm going to do
Starting point is 01:29:29 with 20,000 coins with no value? Nothing. Create a Teddy Roosevelt room. Yeah, that to me was a sign of, you got to move these fucking coins. And we need whatever we can make on them. Fuck the fundraiser thing. Totally.
Starting point is 01:29:48 We need some money. I need flow. Yeah. So Alex goes off air. And to raucous applause from everybody. I think Chris Mehdi called in and was like, thank God that you apologized. And now we know none of that happened.
Starting point is 01:30:03 No, none of that. Keep an eye out for the last words that he says. OK. Oh, God. I want those sons of globalist, Satanic bastards to go to savingforwards.com, Legal Defense Fund. And I want them to see hundreds of thousands of dollars, not 160,000 in a few weeks, me begging.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Because it takes money to beat these creatures. And I want you at infowards.com to get incredible products you need. You heard them. Don't bet on Jones. Don't give him money. He's a lost cause. They're saying you're a lost cause
Starting point is 01:30:28 and you're not a lost cause. This is a damn war. And it takes money to win wars. I got a few more tricks up my sleeve, though. God gave me. What? We're going to go to break. Air Norm Paterson's press conference, a few other clubs.
Starting point is 01:30:41 I know what story he's going to take over. And I'll be back, Lord willing, 11 AM central tomorrow. Before that, there is American Journal with the great Harrison Smith, 8 AM central. The coordinates are infowars.com forward slash show. God bless. Thanks for your support and good luck. Good luck.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Good luck. It's a weird weird. That's not quite good luck and good night. Yeah. That's a very different tone of good luck. What kind of luck does the audience need here? I mean, whatever you just told me an hour ago that nuclear war was inevitable.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Good luck with that. And there's no stopping it. Well, good luck. Good luck. Good luck digging that hole for your family. Listen, listen, good luck. I would. We're all in this individually.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Find myself quite uninspired. So look, we had the billion dollar judgment. And obviously Alex's response to that in the moment is about what you'd expect. Yeah. Cheering it on and sort of making a game of it. Yeah. That's what it is.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Yeah. Later on in the evening, he does his emergency show and at this point, I would say the mission is to do the best show you could possibly do. Do a show that lays out some hard hitting information that the globalists don't want people to have. Right. Prove your worth.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Right. Do something that is undeniably great. Because here's the deal. Everyone already fucking knows that you lost a billion dollars. Yeah. The audience knows that. Yeah. They know you need money.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Yeah. You don't have to be a desperate weirdo. Do something. Don't spend a fucking hour with Barnes and Norm complaining and whining about nonsense. Do something that really changes the game. Because you probably have the most eyes possible on things, the most attention, the most, like if your mission is really
Starting point is 01:32:35 about an information war, information, boom. Yeah. Don't spend time talking with Steve Quayle about how he physically met Jesus. Yeah. Don't do that. And to me, the reason that he did that is because he has nothing else.
Starting point is 01:32:49 There isn't something else that he can do. No. There's no elevation. No. No. There's no way that he can be like, let's go back to basics. Because there was no basics.
Starting point is 01:33:00 No. There was never anything. He was empty from the start. Yeah. G. Edward Griffin won't answer his phone calls. Webster Tarpley doesn't like him. Scousans in bed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:12 It is. Ron Paul doesn't want to come on anymore. And what does it matter if he did? Trump doesn't answer his phone calls. He couldn't even get Roger. No. He's the whoopee cushion of the right. He's got nothing left.
Starting point is 01:33:25 We have an emergency. Yeah. Roger's not here. Well, Roger's got his own problems if the January 6th committee has. I wonder if Steve Pachanic wouldn't even come on. I wonder if that was like, he's like, I'm going to pass on this one.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Well, hey, Alex, I've done all I can for you. I lost you a billion dollars. There's no way for you to not love me still after having lost you a billion dollars. Yeah. Brutal. Yeah. Also, this is a strange thought, but Steve Pachanic came up.
Starting point is 01:33:56 So Roger recently was on Alex's show in the middle of a hurricane that hit Florida. Right. And Roger did not correct Alex's politeness. Brutal. He did not give him a lesson in manners. Brutal. And I found that to be disappointing.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Just for continuity, I would have liked it if Roger was like, you didn't ask how I'm doing. It really should be a situation where we could put together a supercut, eventually, of people in Florida during hurricanes. Maybe he calls somebody in LA when there's fires. Totally. 10 years from now, we've got a whole thing
Starting point is 01:34:31 that we can ride. Everybody needs to correct his politeness. Yes. Alex, I'm doing fine. Thanks. Yeah. We would play that with My Way underneath. This is a sad showing for an emergency broadcast.
Starting point is 01:34:47 And I watched a little bit of Owen's phone call show, but it's like three hours. And who cares? Brutal. But yeah, I mean, they did what they could. They did a whole day. Went till midnight. And then Alex's show the next day.
Starting point is 01:35:00 And of course, the great Harrison Smith in the journal. And then Owen's war room. And you know, about 200,000. Man. I don't know, seems like the juice is not loose. Every movie you've ever seen where it's like, uh-oh, the leader of the pack, like the A team, has got a serious problem that's arisen in just for them.
Starting point is 01:35:24 You can turn around and you look at your team and be like, we can do this together. Maybe it won't be easy. Maybe we won't win. Maybe it's not 100% shot. But I believe that you and I can do this together. And Alex looking over at Owen has to be like, I am going to pay a billion fucking dollars.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Owen, or Alex turns around. He sees Owen. He sees Bobby Barnes. He sees Norm. He sees Steve Quayle rambling about. Is Norm the face man in this? He looks around, comes back, and he says, good luck. Good luck.
Starting point is 01:36:01 Look. He's like, my tube sucks. This is no good. We're fucked. We're in trouble. So we will be back. Probably a sneaky snake over the weekend and then back on Monday with a little bit more
Starting point is 01:36:16 of a follow-up on things. But this is the immediate. This is what we got. So but until then, until we see you again, we have a website. We do have a website at KnowledgeFight.com. Yep, we're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Yep, we'll be back. And A. No, no, no, I'm done. I had a day. It was a good day. OK. It was a good day. All right.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Well, for that day, I say. Thank you, Jordan. He's son of a bitch. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Wilford Snippel-Snavel of the Gribble Pibble.
Starting point is 01:36:50 And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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