Knowledge Fight - #740: August 13, 2003

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan go to the past, hoping to escape the rising antisemitism in the modern right wing, only to stumble into an episode that drifts heavily into similar territory. In this installment, Alex covers overzealous gunpowder storage laws, a Holocaust survivor calls in, and another caller brings up Henry Ford's favorite literature. Citations

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight, need money. Andy and Kansas, stop it. Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a big fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. No, no, no, no, no, knowledgefight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed. We are Dan. Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today is actually something that I might catch some heat.

You might catch some heat for it. This is a hot take. Maybe. I don't know. So, of course, the altar of Celine is a reference to my cat, Celine. Yes, of course. And there's something that I realized I do, and I hadn't realized it, but I really enjoy it. And that is like, if I ever have a knife in my hand, I like to threaten Celine with it. I like to hold her at knife point. Okay. All right. To be like, I pause where I can see them. Okay. All right. All right. Like, obviously, not going to hurt her or anything, but there's something really funny about the idea of like holding a... Well, like, obviously, also, I should say, I'm not close to her. It's from... No, no, no, no. Of course. It's like holding a knife up to her or anything. No, but you've seen,

you've seen those dog trainers who, like, they'll hold their hand up and then go, pow, and the dog will fall over and go, like, oh, like that. I've not seen that. I mean, it's very cool. It's very cool to see. It's like a game. This isn't a game, nor is it fun to see. There is a little bit of... I mean, it's just for me, really. And then, of course, I give her some pets and some attention and sweetness afterwards, but it is... She's not threatened by it. She doesn't know what a knife is. It is better now that your roommate is only a cat, because when you used to do that to your other roommate, that was a little bit of a different story. Sure, sure. Yeah. Give me a candy. Give me a candy. Yeah, Halloween. Yeah, so what's your right spot? My right spot is...

I mean, we've talked... Holding a knife to your dog? Come on. It's holding a knife to you right now. No, I watched the Anime Cyberpunk Edge Runner, so I downloaded the game. Cyberpunk 2077 is a very fun, enjoyable game. That's my right spot. Yeah, you told me to give it a shot. I'm not very far in the game at this point, but I like running around the space. I don't know anything that's going on, but I did find an abandoned motel, and I felt really excited that I could wander around in it. Nice. I don't know if that's part of a later mission or something. I was just digging through trash, and I enjoyed it. I'm not very far into it either, and there was a moment earlier on where they were treating my character like, oh, this is the best... And I was like, man,

I have not done shit. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Yeah. Thank you. What are you going to do? Yeah, that was nice. Putting some respect on my name. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah, so good times. Jordan, today we have an episode to do, and I have a little question for you. The answer is 34. No. Oh, shit. What does Alex Jones and the Aerosmith song Ragdoll have in common? They're still on hiatus. Nope. They can both be found on permanent vacation. I was wondering if that was where we're going to head. Aerosmith album permanent vacation. That's where we're going to go. I was hoping you got a different direction, but all right. Okay. Alex is on vacation. Yes. He is not in studio, and so it leaves us in a bit of a difficult

position. We have these depositions, of course, that there's more to mine from that, obviously, but some of that is a little bit time intensive, and secondarily, I don't want to put out back to back to back to back. There's going to be a lot of depositions. Yeah. So it left us in a position where thankfully we're able to recoup a little bit by taking the beginning of the week to nurse ourselves back to health. Our psychic wounds. But here we are. It's Wednesday. And so what I decided to do is I wanted to go back to the past. Good call. And unfortunately, this episode will prove me to be a witch. Okay. No matter what I do. All right. I cannot stop being a witch. God damn it. Yep. I'm sick of your witchitude. You have no idea. All right. This is

going to be our first episode where we just play the clips in order, and then at the end I go, really? That's crazy. It's to the point when I was like preparing this episode more than once, I said, come on. No. It's not fair. That would be, it would be more fun if Neo in the matrix had taken the red pill, but just remembered everything and was like, oh, that's a simulation at work, at work all day. Anyway, we'll get down to this. But before we do, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new ones. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Jack Chat Mark nine, Jack shot Mark nine. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Lee Adam McAdoo. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy

one. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Moody buns and the ladies. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. This may be poorly timed, but thank you so much to happy anniversary to Jim from Melissa on this, the date that all lonely wonks celebrate our mass anniversary after coming together on the Facebook group. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And coming from the outer regions of the universe, it's Dan Tron zero and Jordanator. Check it. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a technocrite in the mix so Abu Luna bear. I'll get the tech Wally. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrite. I'm a policy

walk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow. Actually, I'm just gonna take a little break. You know, a little break for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm going to start the show over. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. We'll never know if he is better

today or not. No, that's true. That's true. Because you never see him leaving at the back door. Is he better in the past? All right. No. No, no, certainly not. So today we're going to be talking about August 13th, 2003. Oh boy. The no update on whether or not the Bath Party is being put in power or not. Still not? Okay. Still according to Alex's chronology, they are being put in power in Iraq as do bathification is happening. Right. Naturally. There are developments. Alex still believes Saddam Hussein's son still alive. Have not gotten an update on that. So yes, I believe he according to lore and continuity on Alex's show. Yes, that is still the case. All right. David Kelly was murdered in a ritual sacrifice. That's true. So we have we have a lot of dangling

threads here. But one of the biggest dangling threads and that by that I mean the most muscly is Arnold Schwarzenegger, which Alex doesn't want to talk about. Yes, he does not want to talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger for God's sake. Absolutely doesn't want the media is making him talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger, right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And so he does quite a bit. Oh yeah. Got a lot of powerful news and information for you today. I'm around the world and right here in the United States and we'll be going over that starting after the first break. In the meantime, I want to just make one more comment about the whole Arnold Schwarzenegger situation. I spent a lot of time on this yesterday. And since then, I've done even more research. I've

been forced to talk about it. Forced because it is the top story. It is dwarfing Colby Bryant, the other diversion it is distracting from all the real scams, the lies about weapons of mass destruction, the globalist preparing to launch more terror attacks. It's smoke screening what's happening with the economy. And the reason that I'm so angry about this Arnold Schwarzenegger story is the guy admits that he's anti God, anti family. He's for abortion on demand. He is for homosexuals adopting children in his own book, Evolution of a Bodybuilder. He says he doesn't like Christians. So you see there, first of all, this presentation that he's forced to talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger is ridiculous. But on his list of complaints, a lot of that stuff sounds

exactly like what you would hear nowadays. He's for abortion. He's anti gun. But the focus is on homosexuals at this point because it's 2003. And this is where it is appropriate for Alex to attack. He viewed the gay community as vulnerable enough for him to bully at this point, which changed. Yeah, yeah. You know, I feel like a lot of us after so much time, you know, past this, we all kind of thought, well, I guess our parents and and religions and all kind of like moved past the whole gay thing, you know, they they've like, well, I think a lot of people did marriage marriage is happening. And yet, nobody's being murdered by God all day every day. So we're probably good. And now we live in a moment where we realized that those two throughout 2000 2003

thoughts just got quieter. Yeah, they didn't they didn't go away. No, no, it was people realized that they couldn't express these things in public anymore. The opinions did not change. Absolutely. No, none whatsoever. In fairness, maybe there is some subsection that folks some some population that did evolve in their thinking. Sure. And realize like, oh, maybe I don't need to hold on to this. Right. But there it wasn't the massive sea change necessarily that it appeared to be based on it was. Yeah. Yeah. And that complacency I think is maybe screwed us off. Well, maybe it's becoming and will become a problem. Yeah. Yeah. So I was thinking about like what is going on here with this this Arnold stuff because it's so it's incessant. And I realized on this

episode that Alex was very much talking about Arnold specifically in the context of Mel Gibson. And I kind of came to realize that it was because Mel Gibson's getting heat for a passion of the Christ. Right. And anti-Semitic portrayals in it and his family's anti-Semitic history. Right. And so Alex is trying to attack Arnold to do cover for Mel Gibson. Did Mel change his name to Yay recently or was it? No. No. No. Are you sure? No. They're very similar. We'll talk about this here a little bit later. Okay. Why am I spending so much time on this? Because the Simon Wiesenfall Center says Arnold is a model person the best you can be a friend to Jews. This is amazing folks. And then you see Time Magazine and it says that Arnold

it compares him to Ronald Reagan and it says that Arnold you know was his dad was a police chief and Ronald Reagan's dad was a shoe salesman. This is getting out of control. And all of this simultaneously while there is a massive news blitz attacking friends of this show begins in family. So a lot of this surrounds essentially the Simon Wiesenfall Center. Right. Having criticisms of Mel Gibson's film. Right. And the Gibson family simultaneously endorsing Arnold. That's basically where all this is rooted. Yeah. And it's pretty clear the game Alex is playing and the reason he has to cover this Arnold shit even though he insists he doesn't want to is just this he loves Mel and Hutton Gibson and the two of them are very clear anti semites. Mel's new film The Passion of

the Christ is getting flack for being anti Semitic in tone. Simultaneously Arnold is running for governor of California and he said some stuff about Hitler in the mid 70s that's been taken out of context and his dad was an essay officer in Occupied Austria. So this is the way that Alex is going to take some heat off of his actual anti Semitic friends. Right. Right. Right. Right. Obviously it's not good for your dad to be a Nazi but that doesn't make you a Nazi. What's ironic about this almost more than anything I can think of is Mel Gibson's dad allied powers. Shorts and Eggers dad access powers. Mel Gibson access power. Shorts and Eggers allied power. Do you see where I'm coming from here? It's an interesting twist. Yeah. Yeah.

Obviously like you wouldn't ideally if I had to choose all possible fathers. Nazi would not be one. Nazi would be low on the list. Yeah. And it's not good for you to make comments about admiring Hitler's oratory skills when you're a youth but that doesn't make you a Nazi either. On the flip side Mel and Hutton Gibson have personally engaged in explicit anti Semitic acts including Holocaust denial and revisionism. Alex knows this. If Mel decided to speak out against Trump in early 2016 Alex would have mysteriously become aware of all this shit and used it to attack him. Whoa. But here we are in 2003 and Alex is smearing Arnold just because he needs to carry water for his father and son bigot act that apparently will talk to him.

Yeah. Yeah. It's so clear that Arnold is only interesting to Alex in as much as like he can use it to deflect from Mel Gibson. Right. Right. He's a bigotry barrier. He's the police shield of bigotry or whatever. And it feels like that's why Alex was so desperate to lure his callers into like talking about him on the last show he did in 2003. It seems like please just give me a reason to like so I'm not just making this up. Every time I want to defend anti Semites I have to be like oh anti Semitism is great. I don't want to do that. I want to make fun of Mel Gibson or Arnold Schwarzenegger. Come on man. So Alex has Joyce Riley on who's another host apparently on his network and they complain a little bit about where that shows the hypocrisy

of the system. They're attacking Mel Gibson for his film The Passion that's right out of the Bible and the very same head of the Simon Wiesenthal Center is praising Arnold who Arnold said in Pumping Iron that his idol was Adolf Hitler. He quote saw him as a role model and supports Kirk Volton. I mean it just shows the hypocrisy of all this. And Simon Wiesenthal Center admitted that Schwarzenegger's father was a Nazi that they had confirmed that. But Arnold says that he admires Hitler. Well it is all hypocrisy but it's all delusion. It is all a fraud and we're seeing through it and that's why I don't get as angry at it as I used to because I see through it now. This is all good fun and it's furthering the theme of the day which seems to be that Alex is mad

that people are calling Mel Gibson anti Semitic but not Arnold. Yeah Arnold is a mainstream Republican so Alex wants to smear him whereas Gibson is a zealot extremist whose father is apparently friends with Alex so Alex loves him and won't stand for accurate accusations of him being a bigot. Right. I wanted to play this clip because it shows a very intentional misdirection by Joyce and Alex. They say that the Simon Wiesenthal Center found that Arnold's father was a Nazi and that is true but they're purposefully admitting some information that their audience would benefit from having. The first thing is that Arnold requested they investigate his father's background. He was not in any way trying to hide from the past or the reality of his father's bad deeds.

The second thing is that the center wasn't necessarily setting out to determine if his dad was involved in the Nazi party. That was all pretty much understood and definitively known. Right. Arnold saw his dad's uniforms growing up. You get there. Yeah. They were tasked with pouring over records from the Holocaust and determining if the specific groups that Arnold's father was a member of had any recorded history of committing crimes against humanity or similar atrocities. Right. So Arnold wasn't like hey is my dad a Nazi. Arnold's like was my dad a super genocider or just like on board with them. I'm guessing it also is like how in how much of a Nazi was he. No that's what I'm saying. Yeah. The result of the investigation was that there is no such record.

The consensus seems to be that there's no affirmative evidence of him committing war crimes but war records are also imperfect so it can't be fully ruled out either. Whatever the case the sins of the father are not necessarily appropriate to take out on the son and it's dumb to make what his dad did or didn't do in World War II Arnold's fault. Yeah. Joyce and Alex say that the investigation found that his dad was a Nazi but they don't include the other details because that would hurt their point. This is an intentional choice. Yeah. The stuff about him admiring Hitler is taken out of context and Arnold has successfully sued people for making these kinds of claims in the past. The stuff about Kurt Waldheim is fair enough but what Alex is referring to is a toast

that Arnold gave at his wedding in 1986. At that point there's no reason to think that Arnold would have known about what Waldheim's lies about his actions in World War II since reporting about that didn't start until that year and accusations of his involvement in war crimes didn't happen until 1987. Right. There's a lot of shadiness. That is fair to say but what Alex is doing is a shameful mischaracterization of a person and he's doing it specifically to distract from his clearly anti-Semitic friend. Yeah. It's very strange. I mean not strange at all but you know. What I find very boring about Nazis is that every Nazi has at one point in time been like you know you got to admire Hitler for blank. Right. But then they've also always been at one

point been like hey did you see this person. They said Hitler was good for blank. Yeah. You know like Alex is a hitler is a complete badass. It's every one of them have done it. Every single one of them have done it. But I also think that a lot of people in their youth have said things that were like you know Hitler was a great speaker. Sure. He was very able to get people to follow him. You know in that sense he had great leadership skills. Right. Right. I think that a lot of folks who maybe had youthful edginess. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not certain I didn't say something like that when I was like 16 or something. There's a certain level of annoying that you are as a teenager about history. Yes. It feels transgressive. Yeah. And like you're you're making a bold statement

that no one has thought of before. Right. And you know Arnold making statements like that in his youth. I don't really think is indicative of him being a Nazi. Yeah. I'm so far. Not a Nazi. Also I'm not sitting here to like fully defend Arnold Schwarzenegger. No. Just saying that what Alex is doing is bullshit. Of all the criticisms that I have of Arnold Schwarzenegger. None of them are he is a Nazi. Fair enough. So Alex is always right about everything. Sure. Except for everything. Here's an example of something he's not right about. Well now they're getting the national draft lined up Joyce. Yes. And it's also going to be a medical draft. And as soon as the medical people learn about this I think you're going to see a real change of

heart here. By the way they've got a another draft now through the tips program where all commercial drivers taxicab ice cream truck. I mean it doesn't matter. 18 wheelers they all have to spy for the government against all crime. And that's indentured servitude right there. I mean they're setting up the East German model. Oh man we got ice cream truck snitches out here. Yep. I love I love whatever Alex's callers bring up the reason or that. No apologies. Whatever they bring up on their own the reason why something won't happen as evidence for what will happen after it does. You know like there's a draft. Oh people won't stand for it. Yeah. Is it a draft then. Well yeah. No possible for people to not go along with it. There's a medical

draft. I don't think doctors and stuff will go along with it. Yeah. That's why they won't do with it because it won't. What are you talking about. Of course they won't go along with it. You can't just bring doctors to a war. But what you can do is force ice cream truck drivers to snitch. That one you actually can do. That's in the Constitution. Yeah. So every commercial driver every truck driver long haul. Yep. They're all they're all spiced. Deputized. Absolutely. They all were enlisted. I mean well they do have the infrastructure to communicate with each other over vast distances. You know. Yeah. There is that. They don't use that to solve crimes. But you know when you're just driving you're just listening

to the radio. Maybe if you were also solving crimes. Breaker breaker rubber duck. I see a J walker on my six. Moving to run him over. Thank you. Thank you. Permission to use lethal force. Permission granted. So Alex has some news stories. They're covering it. Boy it's it's quite a quite a rundown. All right. Also man accused of improperly storing gunpowder denied bail. Wheeler please guilty to arraignment. Basically remember seven trial dates that are going after people who store gunpowder but the borders are wide open and the Chinese government's been caught chipping in machine guns and lost rockets and opium. Nothing happens. So weird. This is a strange low stake story for Alex to be covering. Just a guy who got

charged with a misdemeanor for stockpiling gunpowder unsafely which I understand does touch on some of the Second Amendment absolutism but it seems like small potatoes. Yeah. So I poked around and found out that this was the case of 61 year old Maryland man the Lovell Wheeler as it turns out in this state it's illegal to have more than five pounds of smokeless gunpowder and also illegal to store it in anything other than its original container because it's incredibly unsafe. Sure. And the rationale for one of the reasons why it is particularly unsafe is sure you could blow up your house but also it could affect your neighbors. Right. It's not just you totally Wheeler was storing this shit in a new container and he had 62 pounds of it. So a little

bit over the limit. That is what. When the cops showed up he quote handed officers literature from the National Alliance Neo Nazi group based in West Virginia and told them a race war was coming. Right. Wheeler claimed that he wasn't a Nazi or anything but that his wife was a member of the National Alliance had hosted a radio show called quote grandmother Elizabeth's reading hour for white children. Quite a quick name for a show. Don't know if I can get more details that put my jaw on the floor. Yeah. That is just a succession of details that make me go. No. It's strange how many of these stories that Alex covers are minor almost completely inconsequential stories that end up involving people who are Nazis. Yeah. It's also weird how Alex just ignores

that part when he's covering the story. Super weird to imagine like what websites he's cruising to find this story to. I can't imagine this was breaking on the front page of CNN but probably was a pretty hot topic on neo Nazi message boards. Yeah. The Guardian didn't cover it but Stormfront did is not a good way to start your show. Yeah. So big big got a got a touch on this. You know the news breakdown. Here's my problem. Here is my problem. All right. If you do think there is a race war coming. I still don't know how that much gunpowder is going to help you. Couldn't hurt. Yes it could. Yeah. No. No. Absolutely. That's the number one thing it will do is hurt. Yeah. Well I don't I don't know if I necessarily think that this is a guy who has tactics.

Sure. Sure. No. I understand overarching strategies. It is strong. I want to be fully clear. He also claims that he doesn't remember telling the cops that. Well I mean yeah that makes sense. Yeah. I wouldn't you talk to a lawyer and you suddenly don't remember what you said to the cops earlier. I understand. So yeah good good story selection. If I had several more than one pound of gunpowder on me on hand I would very strongly respect the you have the right to remain silent. You know like that would be my number one right that I'm thinking of is like we don't need to ask questions about that gunpowder. So we got another news story. Yeah. That Alex is covering and just a little heads up in advance. There's some racist language in this story. Just regular

words aren't allowed and they're getting rid of juries in the same thing. But here's the one independent today. Racist racist. Oh see it's OK. Faces jail under first British court order to ban use of word ban use of word folks. A man that faces being sent to jail for the use of specific term of racial abuse in public. Michael Galliflow 31 is believe me the first person OK. It's not true. They've done another headline in the London Holograph was great and nightly crimes raids for speech. It says believe me the first person in the U.K. to be banned from using a particular word. Hawkeye. And again that's just the abbreviation of you know for Pakistanis under the terms of an anti social behavior order. He could also be prosecuted for behaving

and anti socially or using insulting or abusive including homophobic language. The life long order has been imposed by magistrates in Manchester and Goldfoil and Ardwick Manchester made abusive phone calls to council officials about a housing application and the calls made in June. He called an officer a pack I and another homo. Well you know what if you don't agree with that you know call him a whiny but but that's your God given right folks because then it's going to be all speech. Well that that seems like a good solution. OK. All right. Use a slur against him. Yeah. Yeah. See. Yeah. So first things first this is happening in the U.K. so there are different speech laws there than they are in the United States. Right. If Alex loves national sovereignty

so much why the fuck is he trying to enforce his own code of rules on people in another country. Very weird. So the story here is that Michael Guilfoyle made a bunch of abusive phone calls to staff in trying to help with his rehousing application. They complained about it and the magistrates court told him specifically that he can't use that word in public anymore. He could say it in his own home if he needs to but he will be in trouble if he uses it to harass or threaten people again. Right. There's no evidence that he got any jail time or punishment other than the city saying that he'll be in trouble if he continues to use slurs to attack their employees. Yeah. And I don't know. I don't know if this is that big a deal. It's harassment.

Yeah. If you attack somebody with any word. OK. Yeah. Fine. I don't think I don't think word should be banned. Here's what I would not. Here's what I would say. It's not. It's banned for him. Right. Let's throw this out there. All right. Maybe we do a 10 year requiem. You know like 10 years you can't say it. And then at the end of 10 years if you still want to say it let's see how you feel about it. You know what I'm saying with the sunset claws. Absolutely. We're not banning words. We're just seeing if you still want to say it after 10 years of not wanting to say it. Because guess what. There are other words you can figure about. You can figure them out. That's true. After 10 years you'd be like you know what I didn't really need that word in the

first place. You know what I'm going to guess. I couldn't find any more in depth stories about this. But I'm going to guess that the order itself was broader and like don't fucking harass people who work for the the council estate. It would be nice. You know like I bet it was that right. And then also if you use these fucking racist terms again that is harassment. Yeah. Yeah. Those are the that will automatically get you in trouble. Exactly. Just stop making abusive phone calls also not hard. But yeah Alex sees racism being criticized and so he's got to the rescue. He's got to get in a phone booth and put on his absolutely racist superhero outfit. So he. All right. Listen. Yeah. In 2022 you're a witch. There's some really disgusting language

on Alex's show. Sure. In 2003 he scolds a caller for using the word damn. So my advice is anybody that goes to attorney at this point you better make damn sure and having black and white that they're truly is coming out. Stop you. We've got somebody saying the C word and now the D word. We got a lot of kids listening. Remember that you're addressing tens of thousands of homeschoolers. This show is what for thousands of homes please watch your language. Terrifying to imagine this is required listening for homeschoolers. This is a family show. It is. And now it's a homeschooling show. And it's curriculum. Wow. Yeah. I don't know what he meant by the C word because I didn't hear a really feel like if he was talking about the C word then there's only one C word that I

think of me too. But I didn't hear that and I don't know if it was cut out or something. He used slurs earlier. He sure did. He was granted he was reading from a news story or whatever. Right. Yeah. But that's where the bar is. Damn is swearing taking the Lord's name in vain bad racial slurs who said those were bad. They're not in the Bible on his show. Now he like fakes crying and screams about how he wants his enemies damned to hell. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Can't say damn though. Come on. Have some respect for the homeschoolers. It's ridiculous. I guess homeschoolers have of all the things that my history textbooks taught me that were incorrect which was a lot. I it's still better than listening to infowars. That's for fucking sure. Yeah. Yeah. I can't imagine

how lost you'd be if this was something that was treated as like accurate when you're young. Yeah. Can you imagine a textbook filled with just banal versions of Alex's insane conspiracy theories. I think I've kind of read some of them in terms of like JBS literature and so maybe I can't imagine. That's fair. But it's boo. Anyway Alex has his water filter sponsor on the guy from from Big Berkey. Sure. Sure. All we need to know is the non limerick guy. That's all we need to know about. Shactor has not shown up in a bit. I think he doesn't pop up until later because that was in like the 2009. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. For those who haven't heard those episodes Alex has a soap the cowbell soap company is a sponsor and their owner Marty shactor shows up he and he clearly

had something in his contract where he Alex had to let him tell a dirty limerick every time. Single time. He has a limerick and it's dirty. What a wild thing to be your calling card. But what are you going to do. Yeah. Well we remember it. Oh yeah. Forever. No no no. It didn't sell product but it is memorable. Do you think if he didn't do that I would remember the name Calben soap. Absolutely not. No. Absolutely not branding. They still they still in business. I don't think so. I think he's dead. But the water filter sponsor is on and of course they're selling water filters but Alex also has to lie to him a little. Jim the American Bar Association in their document not looked at it not just for corporate fraud is for all so called crime.

Now your lawyer is a title teller of the government. That is not incredible. That is incredible. What happened to attorney client privilege. They just voted it down yesterday in San Francisco. Now is this for the state of California or is this nationwide. No the national bar met in San Francisco and got the Associated Press article here. Let me dig it out. ABA a racist rule on informing lawyers can now report suspected fraud by clients. Yeah I mean we talked about this already. This is not getting rid of client confidentiality or whatever. But you can see how it like sort of gullible his. Yeah I mean that guy was immediately like holy shit we've lost it all. All of those rights are gone. I mean and this is what I find

so fascinating. Yeah is that once Alex has an inch he's going to take a mile for sure. And so he does. Oh they also are calling to abolish the jury system. Well that's real sweet. Is that your response. You know if you know some of the stuff that's coming down the pike if somebody was said this was going to happen 15 years ago everybody said you're a stark raving man. Well here we are 19 years later and you are stark raving man. Yes it's been stark raving man for by your math 24 years 34 years and then some yeah. Yes they're going to abolish the jury system. No confidentiality. Yeah I really I really like his responses to what should be earth shattering

news. That's sweet. Yeah exactly. Like that's your response to that. Nope the whole bedrock of society is falling apart. Well great. Now how am I going to get to work. Well I think that's kind of indicative of how little not seriously these people take their own information. Absolutely. Yeah because like if someone was like they're taking away people's right to juries I think the response would be to the streets. Absolutely. Like I mean that's I mean come on come on guys. We've let them take away a lot of shit but come on. Yeah I think this is a little bit dumb time to start fires but it turns out that I think that this guy Jim Waterboy Jim is a little bit dumb himself. Oh I don't know if you ever read that David Wilkerson's book back in I read it back

in 1976 I think it was called The Vision. Anyway he David Wilkerson's like a doomsday type preacher guy. He's you know there's no sort of those. Yeah in that he'd had a vision and he kind of laid it out and of what was going to take place in America. Back in 1970 I guess I read that in 76. Yeah in 76 I read that and it just seemed like science fiction. I haven't heard of that. What did he say that was going to happen. I picked that book up about a year ago and re-read it and I couldn't believe it. It was just all like ancient history. Oh he said that well some of the things that he said they would start ordaining gay you know ministers and you know back in 76 it was like what does it never happen in America. And just going to blah blah blah. All the stuff that's on

the front headlines is stuff that he wrote in that book back in 1976 and it's been about a year since I've read it but what I can tell you is that the stuff that he wrote in there that just well one of the things that he said back then is that you would that people would be getting pornography on their home TVs and it was like no this could never happen in America way back down today through cable TV that's just everyday stuff. Like I said I've walked into hotel rooms turned it on and somebody was in there before me you know six hours before bought the big package and it's just triple. Yeah they did. And then I was in Kansas City it wasn't just the heterosexual folks they're in the menu it wasn't on I just looked at the menu and I mean it's in now Channel

4 in England is going to air. I hate to even mention this folks this is this is BBC 10 year old kids having sex in a house. I mean with like what cameras. Why is it in a house important in that same way. The UK and the same channel last year have the guy eat the baby a real baby son. Marinated. I'll tell you I don't know where it is all going to end but I'll tell you what I really at times I feel like I'm going into a science fiction movie you know you see these old science fiction movies about Atlantis. Yeah a lot of Alex's stuff does seem like a science fiction movie. We already talked about his fears of this this show where 10 year olds were in a house. That was that's not real. I don't know about this marinating a baby thing. I'm a fan of

everything this guy believes. He's making Alex is making that sound like it was some kind of a like British fear factor but you had to eat a baby. I mean he just kind of made it sound like they get the guy ate a baby right. The guy ate a baby he marinated a baby and then ate the baby and then what was that a single. Was that a special. Was there a miniseries. Maybe he did six episodes at the time a lot you know. Was it Jervais. The office baby. It was a very different show. I don't know. I don't know what this. This is just just seem silly. Also I mean like come on the VHS was invented in the 70s. Yeah dude. I don't know what kind of prophecies this guy's dropping down but some of these some of these trends might be things you could see coming.

Here's here's what I'll say after the Gutenberg Bible was printed you know it took a week before porn was printed you know like come on man we don't need to we don't need to jump too far into the future to be like oh yeah people make porn out of that and it'll be right in your house. Yep. So Alex takes some calls and of course he's been talking a whole lot about Mel Gibson and the Simon Wiesenthal Center and what have you and Mike down for this because this call is wild. But we've got to get behind Mel Gibson and help that young man. He's put his resources up. He's put his talent up. He's trying to get a message across and here we sit and we just talk about it like that judge in Alabama. Well isn't it ridiculous that

Arnold can say he admires Hitler hangs out with top Nazis to this day defends him and they say he's good. So the Simon Wiesenthal and the same guy that runs it then attacks Gibson and says don't let this film come out. Well we got to get behind Gibson and says it's coming out. You know if you read if you read a book that Henry Ford wrote years ago about the International Jew you're going to find that these these four or five Jews that came over was Christopher Columbus. So will all the Queen Isabel's money. When they got back you know who went to jail Columbus. So I appreciate your call. Yeah I gotta go. Yeah Alex was totally on board with this guy. They're having a great time talking about how the Simon Wiesenthal Center is

doing Mel Gibson wrong. And then when the caller is like yeah you know let me tell you about the International Jew Alex is like oh shit. Oh man you know at a certain point you just got to be like hey obviously I think this but we don't want to do that. Obviously I have a keen awareness that most of my audience believes this and they think that I'm using coded language and that's why they enjoy my show. Yeah. But you can't make it too obvious on air because then everyone knows this is a fucking Nazi show. Yeah. Yeah. Shouldn't that be a thing that we all just know all the time. Like all of us across the world human shouldn't we all just be able to be like hey guess what this one's a Nazi show because this time this happened and that's all we need to know. You know like

shouldn't that be enough. Shouldn't one Nazi be enough. Sure. I mean we don't have to stop there but yes. Exactly. The rest of the show gets weird. So I will say that we had kind of planned where the idea was that we do an episode on Monday about a video that had been posted on Bandod video. It was a fourth hour of Alex's show hosted by a guy named Royce White who was a failed GOP candidate to unseat Ilhan Omar in Minnesota and he has taken to defending Kanye in a way that is maybe a bad way to defend him. He's doubling down on some of the things Kanye is saying and labeling Jews who he doesn't like anti-Jews. Yeah. And it's very it's very troubling. The trend that you're seeing in the right wing right now in particularly the way

anti-Semitism is so on the rise and emboldened by statements that Kanye is making. You see Nick Fuentes coming out and really really going hard thanks to some of the cover I guess you get from Kanye and his behaviors and you see it on Infowars. You see you see the a certain section of the content being kind of denial of like this isn't anti-Semitic. What are you talking about? Right. What did he say? Right. You know and then you have another section of it that is like no actually he's right and it's not all Jews. It's just bad Jews or whatever. Yeah. And you go back to 2003 and you're kind of hoping for a different tone and then you have a caller who's bringing up the international Jew. And I think the lesson that you take away from this or that I

think is appropriate to take away from this is like this is what this show is. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And also that over 20 years regardless of whether or not somebody continues talking about hating Jews boy they sure still do. And I mean like if you go to the video of Royce White's fourth hour appearance which I should just really stress is on Alex's show. It's the fourth hour of his show just with a guest host. The comments on it are like finally somebody is saying this stuff. Yep. And you know that's what the callers who express things like this are thinking. They're waiting for Alex to finally just bring up that Henry Ford shit man. Yep. Bring up that stuff that was Nazi propaganda. But what you're going to do. Yeah. Yeah. I mean you know. Anyway

it'll get worse later but for now Alex has some other news because he just wants to jump away from that and be like let's not pretend that I don't hate Jews. I don't hate Jews publicly. Yep. So you have some other other news. Some of the news I haven't gotten to yet. This is now come out. It was Condoleezza Rice who warned Willie Brown not to fly on 911. The San Francisco Chronicle and others who admitted Willie Brown admitted that he was told the day before not to fly to New York that day. Now it turns out it was Condoleezza Rice telling him not to do that. We have this one in full wars dot com. This is bullshit. Willie Brown wasn't told not to fly that day. It's a misconception and a bullshit thing that

911 truthers use. Here's how he described the call he got from his security contacts that work at the airport not Condoleezza Rice. Okay. He said the call quote didn't come in any alarming fashion which is why I'm hesitant to make an alarming statement. It wasn't an abnormal call. I'm always concerned if my flight is going to be on time and they always alert me if I ought to be careful. And guess what? He was still going to fly that day. He didn't change his plans. He only didn't fly because it was an 8am flight out of San Francisco which is after the trade center had already been hit. He was going like he was going to go to the airport. He was waiting for his ride when he saw the news of the attack on TV. Yeah. Alex is just making shit up because he's a liar

likes to fuck with his audience. Also fun fact the claim that the warning to Brown came from Condoleezza Rice traces back to a comment made by Holocaust denier David Irving who had no proof for the claim and he was just making that shit up too. Kind of weird how there's so much Nazi shit on this show even back in 2003. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is like man back in the day a conspiracy could be built out of a thing that literally everyone who flies now gets like they get text updates every five seconds. If your flight is changed in a minute you get a text update. But 20 years ago holy shit. This is a conspiracy theory. Yeah. I mean it is interesting on some level. Sure. You know like what exactly was the nature of the concern that the people at the

airport were expressing to Willie Brown. Right. What was it. It clearly wasn't that severe because he was going to fly anyway. Right. Also if it was something that it was indicative of foreknowledge of the attack that's kind of dumb because the flight was taking off after the attack happened. There is a problem. They knew that it was going to happen. They would know when it was going to happen. Right. And he wouldn't have to be warned at all because his plane would never take off. Nope. So none of this makes any sense. It's a conspiracy built out of nothing and the Condoleezza rice aspect comes from a Holocaust. Right. But it is a coincidence thrilling and a Don Salazar would say it doesn't drive. That's true. All right buddy. That's not a drivable

thing. Dumb people have questions and that means we need to report on this. So Alex has some other news. It's pretty severe stuff. How you doing. I had a few questions here because you know things go fast on your show. You said in Pennsylvania there was a law made that preacher cannot cite the Old Testament. Yes. They said that they read passages criticizing homosexuals or others. They can be arrested or fine. Republican. That's that's true. And where was that article with Governor Swiker. Associated press singing ass news all over the place. Wow. Unbelievable. Last year freedom of religion to speak out on stuff or whatever and quote passes from Bible but all of a sudden rest of the guy who called the Pakistan person a packy and whether you're

I mean that's just an abbreviation but whether it is racist or not it's free speech folks. Yeah. Didn't arrest him. I can find the UK. Yeah. I can find literally no evidence of this supposed law but if I had to guess what Alex is talking about there have been cases where anti LGBTQ protesters have yelled Old Testament verses that have been used to argue like homophobia being a pillar of Christianity. Sure. Gay people at events. Yeah. But I don't think that those people were generally arrested or cited for their comments but for other protesting related infractions. Whatever the case it's just not true that you can't preach the Old Testament in Pennsylvania. That's stupid. Yeah. I mean you know whatever he's complaining

about most of the people that wanted to are probably in Congress now so you know well and you have like in addition to this weird Nazi thread you also have this preoccupation with like sort of homosexual being opposed to homosexuality. Yeah. In a way that Alex pretends isn't part of his world view now. Yeah. You know there is a I'm cool. I'm fine. Yeah. I'm good. I'm hip. I'm with it. But you look back on this like no you're not. I mean I just don't see any way we're not obviously dealing with Nazis here anymore. I don't get any more of anti-Semitism is authorized. They hate trans people. They hate LGBTQ people. These are just literal Nazis. We're dealing with Nazis now. We know how to deal with Nazis. We're dealing with Nazis.

This is what we're dealing with. Stop pretending like we're not. So Alex has another caller. Yep. This this caller is interesting. Okay. The next point is this is on the homosexual movement and okay. Here is this information I have. Back in April of 1999 there was a bill presented and evidently it passed. But this is what we need to find out. The bill was and everyone get your pens out and write this down and do your homework people. We need to find out about this. But I think this is why they're being so in our face and pushing all this. Okay. Go ahead. It's HR 2431 and it was presented the International Freedom from Religious Persecution Act. So this bill did pass and it became the International Religious Freedom Act of 1998. This caller thinks or at

least this is what I imagined. Right. This caller thinks that the bill is designed to protect gay people from religious persecution. But it was actually about creating some governmental bodies that would monitor religious groups who were being persecuted in other countries and advocate on their behalf. Right. This is really stupid stuff and I don't know why you would expect anything else on this show. Yeah. This is 2003 five years after this bill became law and she's not even sure if it passed. Yeah. Now that's what I thought her angle was going to be. Uh huh. That it was about like protecting gay people from religious persecution. Okay. But then she kept talking. Oh no. And I would say that given a million guesses I would never have predicted that this was her

conspiracy. All right. But now here's the twist of it. It says for example now that I'm reading from this for example if the practice of homosexuality becomes defined as a religion then any group opposing homosexuality could be classed as violating their religious rights and then any of its members could be universally fined jailed or monetarily ostracized. Yeah. This is they're trying to sell us the system and they're going to use neocons to sneak it through on us. And it is I mean I just read the article in England where the guy used a word and they arrested him. This is the Scotland Yard Diversity Unit. What? What? So the conspiracy is that this bill is part of the gay agenda and then they're going to use this and then later they're going

to make being gay a religion. Yeah. And uh what? Okay. And Alex is like yeah they're trying the neocons are trying to push this through. You know what? You know what? Here's my pitch. Let's do it. I'm down. I'm down for it. I will develop a religion based entirely around homosexuality and then the government has to allow everything to work. I think. I think that's how it works perfectly. Well whether or not you are going to unsuccessfully do this. Oh I think it's going to work. In the year of our Lord 2022. I think I got this one. Um 2003. This is some silly shit. It did not happen. Did not happen. No. No. No. It hasn't. It's yet to come to pass. Again preoccupation of fear of people. Boy. So uh Alex gets another caller. Uh trends are happening

here. Manuel and Pennsylvania. Go ahead. Yes Alex. First I'd like to say uh latest video. Police day three expertly done. Very good. It's absolute whether you serve good or evil. I mean it's too documented. Very very good work. It's our longest film too at two hours and 40 minutes. It sure is. When I first watched it I watched it. Sure is. Oh yeah it is long. Long. It is long. I'd like to say that this is homosexuals. We can't call them perverts but uh they get on TV every day. These pundits and they call us terrorists for speaking up the truth. I don't double think is that. Well look it's the first amendment and and I'll fight to the death for anybody to have the right to say what they what they feel what they believe but no it's all

one sided. Yeah so this guy caller uh Alex's films are long and that is a mark of quality. Right uh and uh apparently he's mad that people don't like that he calls gay people perverts. Yeah okay. Yeah yeah yeah you know it feels. Getting a real view of some of this audience. Yeah it feels it feels awful. It feels awful to know that 20 years has meant nothing. Fuck all. Yeah. Useless pointless waste of 20 years. Mm-hmm. Yeah uh uh. Yeah you're not gonna like this next clip. Oh boy. Here's another caller. Okay great. All right we also have infoawards.com bumper stickers. Let's go to Paddy in Ohio who wanted to make another point. Go ahead Paddy. Well I wanted to say first I have two things but the Jewish people you know there are

kinds of Jews I believe I used to have a paper I passed out to people all the time. The ones that we need to be worried about are the communist Jews and I'll tell you what no one ever uses that word communist. They're still afraid of it. What the fuck is anyone talking about movement that long. They will not say communist Jews. Why does Alex I mean obviously I know the answer to this it's sort of rhetorical. Sure. Why does Alex allow someone to keep talking after they say there are six kinds of Jews. Oh boy. Uh well I mean. What good is going to come out of the rest of that sentence. All right. Okay so it was 2003 I think Pokemon Gold had just been released pretty recently so you know he's like you gotta catch him all right. He's

got that on his brain and then she lists it and he doesn't catch the second part which I totally get you know. Everybody's into the the the the Sneasel. Is that a Pokemon? Sounds right to me. I am I'm blown away listening to this episode particularly like you know we have this backdrop of in our present day we have you know Kanye coming out and saying this horrible stuff. You have him being interviewed on Tucker Carlson them cutting out parts of it that make it too overt. The parts where he said exactly that you have him where he said there are six types of Jews basically. Yeah I mean he's the occupations of Jews. Yeah I mean it's the same fucking thing. You have him. You have him making the rounds on tons of other media places now. Drink Champs

podcast. He was on Lex Friedman. Pierce Morgan interviewed him. He's on with Chris Cuomo. What? Yeah he's going around these places saying more awful stuff. He's Candace Owens has tricked him into buying parlor. That's the one funny part about all of this. And then you have things that you see like you know people emboldened by it and you know going back to the past and you know seeing an episode that is so heavily this it's upsetting. Yeah it's upsetting. Yeah I mean if we did a show and we did not believe that Jews ran the world in some evil conspiracy. Uh-huh right. And we do we do do a show where we don't believe that Jews run the world in a conspiracy. But we were also pitching a giant conspiracy around the world. Yeah yeah yeah. And we had a day

where we had calls like this. It would be a wake up call. Yeah it would be a it would be a crisis. Yeah it would be a moment of what am I putting out into the world that fans of mine keep doing this. And 19 years later Alex still has not had that that moment. And the reason why is because he doesn't mind this being his audience. This is the audience that he wants. Yeah I mean I think I've told this story before but like I was I was maybe three or four years into doing stand-up and I stopped doing a joke because I found out after a show when somebody told me about it that they were laughing at it for the complete wrong reason. And I was like nope this is done because that if that's what's funny about this that's not what I meant for it to be funny. So it's not funny. Right

you know. If you need to keep telling the joke because it's too good then you need to find a way to retool it from the ground up. Or in a way where that interpretation can't be. Yes absolutely. Can't be derived from it. And if Alex still wants to do this New World Order Illuminati shit and do his show he has a responsibility knowing that there is a heavily Nazi base among his audience to present his information better. It's a failing of his ability to present information that people constantly are quote unquote confused. Right. If he wasn't a Nazi because he is a Nazi it is not a failure it is not a confusion he's doing exactly what he wanted to do. Right. Right. Yeah. That's but if he weren't actually a Nazi that would be a real shock

to the system. Yes. Now this has been bad so far. Yeah. And I was blown away by what happens towards the end of this episode. Alex gets another call. Oh my god. And it's from a Holocaust survivor. Now I take this person at their word. Okay. Obviously. Well I mean you know it's just a caller into a radio show. I have no reason to doubt this woman's experience. Well but you obviously can't also go in ruby you know the whole thing. Yeah. Obviously. But we believe that this is the truth. Yeah. And she also has some bad opinions. Let's say sure agrees with Alex on some stuff. Uh huh. But the reason that I find this fascinating is Alex has a person on the line who's discussing their experience living through the Holocaust and he can't stop himself

from using their experience to push his little narratives and his snarky bullshit I would kind of say. Let's talk to Irene. Yeah. Irene in Idaho. Go ahead. Yeah Alex. Yeah. The reason I'm calling my what might cut my attention. I was born and raised in Germany. I was born right into the Second World War and what got my attention when you mentioned taking the children out of their family. Well I experienced a lot of that. My grandmother when I was little she had us hit in a train station in a wagon because they were going to put us on a truck and haul us off. But they ended up taking us away anyway. They went to a doctor and told my grandmother she wasn't capable because of her heart and they put us into a home. And during the night I could

have a long story here but I'll make it short. During the night the women like the Gestapo women they dressed as witches and scared us and I have I have no supervision and I'm going to take that back. You're saying the Gestapo women would terrorize you. Terrorize. Yes. And also you better not criticize them or you may be criticizing a Nazi means you're anti-Semitic now. It doesn't matter to me. I'm my grandmother. We had my grandmother had a neighbor and she was a Red Cross nurse and my grandmother told that woman Hitler is crazy and she told my grandmother if you say that one more time I'm going to have you put against the wall and shot. Well yeah but according to that maybe you're I mean I don't want to say your grandmother's anti-Semitic but standing up against

Hitler may be a bad thing now. I'm not serious here folks. This is nuts. Presuming that Alex believes her I mean like I don't understand how you could behave like this. Quite frankly someone is relaying their experience living through something atrocious something horrible and Alex can't not get his beat in there at the end about like criticizing Hitler means you are a Nazi with his like just trying to use this terrifying experience from this woman's childhood as a way to enforce his argument against Arnold Schwarzenegger. Right right right. It's bizarre. Yeah yeah yeah I mean one way you could take that is thank you for helping put things in perspective. Your grandmother spoke out against a Nazi genocider and I just want

to be a racist and it seems like now that I've heard your story I can recognize that I'm just a racist like Hitler in this story. It's it that's one way to go about it. I don't think he did. I think that you kind of have a responsibility if like someone like this calls into your show your tone might want to change. Yeah and I think that it's incredibly disrespectful that what he's essentially doing is trying to use her experience in the Holocaust as a prop for his own talking points and that's that there's there's nothing appropriate about that and it's fucked up it's fucked up because it's the Holocaust a fucking obviously but that's fucked up to do about any person's trauma. Yeah to exploit it for your own bullshit lies but it's all but it's so fucked up

it's so fucked up when it's about the Holocaust and it's on a show where we've already had a number of fairly anti-Semitic callers including somebody citing the international Jew. 100%. So yeah they talk a little bit more. Great. What was Nazi Germany like when you were a little girl? Well when I was a little girl being taken away from my grandmother and I must have been maybe three and a half years old and I had a lot of backflashes and what happened the home got bombed and then they we were put on the street and just a cardboard around our neck with our name on it and shoved into individual homes so the my brothers and we were separated at that time and so you remember you talked about your grandmother at the train station when they

took you away. Yeah I don't I don't remember that that was before that the doctor came and then we got taken away anyway. The doctor came. Oh my god. Taken away anyway yeah so so. But the CPS was just doing its job. Yeah but my grandmother knew my grandmother stood up she didn't you know she protected us in any way she could possibly can. And nowadays she'd say that she was an al-Qaeda shumblizer. Well whatever test she stood for. Whatever happened to your grandmother. My grandmother passed away about 15 years ago almost 20 now. This is just hard. It's hard to listen to. Yeah. Her relating her her experience which I'm not entirely sure I can track fully what's going on in these stories. Right. There's there are evocative images that certainly come out of

what she's saying but I don't know what the connective tissue is the like A to B to C of it all. Well the wartime experience occurred between when she was like three and six so yeah you can't expect clearer memories. Absolutely. Of course. I just find it offensive basically the way Alex is is taking any detail that connects to a talking point of his or a little riff of his and then being like the doctor. I mean I know Alex doesn't care because he's an anti-semite himself so he's like the Holocaust or whatever it is but it is it is like that is not it's not okay. You know like even if it's if you if he was at Arlington National Cemetery he's not going to let somebody be like oh America won the war or something like that. You know it's going to be

like no this is a place of respect or some shit. That's insane. This is crazy. It is. It is quite crazy. I think that there is the responsibility you have as a call in talk show host to sort of change a little bit of your presentation depending on the caller. Like for instance if a survivor of the Holocaust calls in when you're in the middle of a deeply anti-Semitic show or even not just you know you should have a little deference not maybe make their experience about you and your own ideas that would be good. Similarly like if you have a caller who's a kid you have a responsibility to behave differently towards them because they're a kid and Alex doesn't do that. He just exploits pretty much anybody who comes into his orbit. Even on fucking Jerry

Springer they treated Holocaust survivors with a level of respect that the show had had not yet seen. I'm not gonna vouch for that episode. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not gonna say it was they they did a great job. Sure. But it was better than this. It's hard to be much worse. So Alex closes things out with the old news rundown and here he just touches back on the Willie Brown issue. Here are some of the other news here. Long article on my website and it says Connellisa Rice warned Willie Brown not to fly on 9-1-1. That's the mayor of San Francisco and it goes grasping its straws and closing a loop. Connellisa Rice the most senior black woman the Bush administration has had a charge of racism against critics of the U.S. drive to bring

Western freedoms the Middle East. Isn't that incredible. Did this former Chevron San Francisco employee got this new rhetorical tactic from San Francisco mayor Willie Brown who was managed to turn every scandal there is into an issue of race San Francisco election fraud. It seems like these aren't stories about Connellisa Rice or Willie Brown involving four knowledge of 9-11. It seems like those are both racist grievances of Alex's. Yeah. Yeah. Those are the ones. Yeah. It seems like these are headlines about the two people but they aren't they don't have anything to do with the story you're purporting to cover. No. And that is because there isn't a story. Nope. Nope. There's just racism. Yeah. Yeah. So wild. Yeah. We come to the end of this and

woof. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Yeah. Yeah man. Not a fan. Yeah. You know you like to go back to the past and see something of an oasis something of a break maybe something interesting that Alex is lying about that you could dig into a little bit. But instead you see the present day mirrored. In many ways. Yep. And it sucks. Yep. So brutal closing thoughts. Brutal. Brutal. I mean I suppose my only closing thoughts are none of these people have to platform. Yeah. And they're still doing it for money. So true. Fuck them all. Yeah. Fuck Chris Cuomo. Fuck Piers Morgan. Fuck all of Fox News. This is an interesting way that I learned that Chris Cuomo has a show somewhere. Me too. I didn't know that. Isn't that against the law yet? Haven't we figured out a way to make that against the law?

It's First Amendment. He did the whole thing with his brother. First Amendment. Shouldn't the journalism gods have been like no we don't let this happen right? First Amendment. How many times do I have to read journalists pretend to give a shit about journalism before I give a fuck? Chris Cuomo. Fuck all of them. So the interesting question becomes though that like does yay show up on info wars? Yeah, obviously. Sooner or later. You'd think sooner or later. But here's the problem that I that I foresee. I think that Kanye actually represents a problem for Alex. And that is if he comes on the show, Alex has the responsibility to argue with him about his anti-Semitic views. Sure. If like if Alex is just talking about like an interview with

Pierce Morgan or Cuomo or whatever, right? He can sort of control that conversation because he can use whatever clips he wants. He can frame the conversation whatever way he wants. Sure. If he has Kanye there and he says shit, Alex can't stop him from saying anything. They got the five second button. I think you talk for more than five seconds. I think you would too. I think it represents a problem because Alex would have to sort of rebut that stuff or else he risks, you know, basically being overly public about his actual brand. Yeah. And so I think that Kanye is in a position where he probably would go on info wars, but Alex kind of can't let him. Yeah. Yeah. I think unfortunately, I would before I came in and we started recording,

I was in the alley and I saw the battered and bleeding body of irony because yay cannot be racist on info wars. He can be racist on Fox news. He can be racist everywhere, but on info wars, he cannot be racist. Well, he can go on all these other platforms and be like really extreme, right? Because they don't have a predominantly extreme audience that they're trying to pretend isn't right. Alex would like people would remember when they went to CPAC and Nick Fuentes essentially took over the Alex Jones event. You'd have the audience be like finally Kanye's on and he's naming the enemy. Yeah, totally. You know, that kind of stuff. Yeah. You know, you don't want you don't want to make that too transparent. Yeah. You don't want to bring that into your space and

risk whatever damage it could cause to your again, the plausible deniability. Yeah. I mean, I just feel like sooner or later, Alex is going to be like, no one cares and everybody who does care if I was an open anti Semite, they already hate me and it's not like I'm going to lose anything by doing it. I'm only going to gain viewers. Of course, he's going to be on there. Yeah. But I also think that there's probably a part of it that Alex doesn't see himself as that true. So I mean, you know, they might fight back against sure that being his his reality and his public image right quite past the point where it makes sense. That does seem to be that does seem to be possible. I just feel like there are all the Nazis are going max mask off in six months anyway. So

it's like I mean a lot of them are now. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We're going to turn around and you're going to be like, Oh, I didn't know you were a Nazi and there's going to be a lot of them. So we'll be back with another episode on Friday. But until then, Jordan, we have a website. We do. It's knowledge right.com. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I am the condo board manager of brain apartments. I'm loving it. This is not good. Oh, shit. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.