Knowledge Fight - #747: November 11, 2022

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how the week ended for Alex.  In this installment, Owen continues to report from the Big Board, Roger Stone keeps getting T-boned, and Alex interviews a really sad g...ang leader. Citations

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight and your knowledge fight. Need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding us. Hello Alex. I'm a Christian. I'm a huge fan.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I love your work. Knowledge fight. No, no, no, no, no. Knowledge fight.com. I love you. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. Like to sit around. Where should we put the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are. Dan. Jordan.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I have a quick question for you. Jordan. What's your bright spot today? Well, my bright spot today is I'd like to thank everybody who responded to the call for submissions to the anti-communism library. More than you would have expected. There have been a few and I appreciate it. We will be start building that and, you know, go, we'll see where that takes us.
Starting point is 00:01:30 It's a very exciting new project. I mean, I hope it's not back to the 60s. Me as well, but we'll see. I want to try and create a nice compendium of fronches of fronches. I mean, you quite almost literally want to always have the documents at this point. Yeah. Yeah. You want the white paper?
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yeah, man. There's something like so interesting about holding these like these pieces of weirdo history, like these American opinions, and one of them is addressed. Some of them have address labels on them. Oh my God. One of them went to a guy in Monaco. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:12 All right. Some guy in Monaco was reading John Birch stuff and somehow that's ended up in my hands. Nuts. Yeah. There is a part of me that is like, I walked in and I saw those and it was a little bit like catching you with dirty magazines. It felt a little bit like, Dan, you shouldn't have those out. Well, wait till they're just everywhere.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah, exactly. And then also I wanted to take this opportunity to say to folks, you know, buttons are still coming out. They're still being sent. I hope to have it done by the end of the year to give some just a little bit of an idea. I'm going through the email inbox from first received to most recent. Yeah. And I've 3000 emails to get to where we are now, boy, after sending out, I have no idea
Starting point is 00:03:03 how many already. Yeah, there is. There is the thing about us only being two people. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And having really no situational awareness of how many people are listening. Zero.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Absolutely no concept. Other people have like, I got an email from somebody who's like, we can help you track your listener base. And I was like, that's with what magic? Why? What are you talking about? Yeah. In email.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Can someone get us in touch with your team? What? What are you? What? Talk to Stelter. It's where we talk, okay? See, what about you? My bright spot is, I don't know if you've heard of these two young up and coming gentlemen,
Starting point is 00:03:45 Dave, Anthony and Gareth Reynolds. I've spoken to them. Yes, you have. They have still not spoken to me and I think that's on purpose at this point. I think they would be willing to talk to you. Willing. Yeah. No, they have a new show called The Pastimes and it could not be more, like, it is my alley
Starting point is 00:04:07 in a way that I can't even comprehend. It's newspaper based. Yeah. So what Dave does, it's completely different from the dollops. See, Dave reads something to Gareth who reacts to it. No, but he picks a newspaper from, you know, a random place in the past or whatever and just reads it to you. And the reason that this hit me so hard is because the moment we listened to it, I remembered
Starting point is 00:04:30 that when I was growing up in my hometown, there was this historical society that had all these microfiche newspapers and I fucking read constantly. I loved reading those to the point where one sentence is always stuck out, not sentence, like a little fragment is always stuck in my head, which is just another ham went missing. Like, and it's like, I cannot believe it. I can't believe this. Yeah. Newspapers used to be a little different and the writing of it was a little different.
Starting point is 00:05:00 It's snow, you know, like the days of hams going missing local paper, support local paper. Right. Right. That's the message. It is. It is so much. If you want to hear about ham theft.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah. Support your local paper. And I couldn't. I was so angry too when I listened to it because I was like, that was my childhood and they turned it into a show. God damn it. You know, like that. You already have a show.
Starting point is 00:05:25 No. Yeah, exactly. No, but it's great. It's really, really great. I've not had a chance to check it out yet, but I've heard from multiple people that it's quite good. Love it. So I'll give that a little listen and I'll see if I can reach out to Dave and Gareth.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Don't worry about it. No, no, no. That'll be offensive. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We're going to be talking about Friday's show. That's November 11th, 2022. This is post midterms post Alex having another half billion dollars tacked on to his shit. Post having his assets somewhat frozen until there's a hearing in early December, I believe.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Yes. So yeah, he's, he's, he's in a, he's in a way. How do you think? But actually, I, you would not know it by just listening to this episode. This one, this episode is kind of just dumb and I ended up spending way too much fucking time on something that is completely pointless and we'll discuss it when we get to it. Do you mean one of our highlights of the show? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:27 So we'll get down to business on this, but before we do, let's say hello to some new walks. Oh, it's a great idea. So first opening arguments, ace associate Morgan Stringer. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Thank you. Next, Jordan's laugh is everything and I know because I'm a Jordan too. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Gorilla with a squash mask.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Thank you so much. I'm a policy walk. I don't know why I couldn't, I couldn't not read that in the heroes in a half-shell rhythm. I don't know what just happened. I think I just got kicked in the gut. Next, the man, the myth and now the policy walk. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:07:05 You are now a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Kiki's bright spot delivery service. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:07:14 And stop it. But I appreciate it. Alyssa Pants, thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. And we had a technocrat in the mix here, Jordan. So thank you so much to Jackson, Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:07:26 He doesn't have running water and no one seems to care. Please send help. Oh boy. We are not the sort of people to- Don't send emergency messages through us. Don't send a timely message. Please don't. Oh no. But you are now a technocrat.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Yeah. I'm a policy walk. Four stars. Go home to your mother. Tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you. You know, not all the returns had come in.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Sure. True. And so there's still a little bit of, a bit of optimism here as Alex- Sure, they might still win the Senate in this, in this time, they might still win the Senate. That's what we're talking about. Right. The Republicans are winning the races in Arizona and Nevada despite being state-of-the-art
Starting point is 00:08:26 to steal them. Or not on the woods yet. Stay with us for this live emergency broadcast. It's Friday. So they lost both of those. But Hope Springs Eternal on Friday. Yeah. And they have not had to turn this into a voter fraud conspiracy just yet.
Starting point is 00:08:42 It is kind of funny how they have, like, if they had been, if the Democrats had been winning by more, the Republicans almost would have been in a more comfortable position to claim that it was fraud, as opposed to having like a lead for so long that they're like, well, we can't call it fraud yet. You know? You don't say fraud until you see the whites of their eyes. Exactly. But also, you...
Starting point is 00:09:05 No. So Alex has a news story that has nothing to do with the political sphere, and I thought this was really, really shitty. There's a lot of other big news we're going to be heading. You know, in the last 20 years, they've used mRNA technology in hundreds of studies with volunteers, not just here, but around the world that we know of. And in every case, a large portion of the individuals that have attested on them die horribly painful deaths, their brains rot, their livers liquefy, their blood coagulates.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And it's happened again. New York man dies while being treated with experimental gene editing technology crisper. What do you think they just did with the mRNA shots to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds, if not above a billion people that took it? So Alex is not in any way established that mRNA technology used in tests in the past has killed a ton of people. I would fact check this, but he's not being specific about what tests he's talking about. So he's not even really making a claim worth being taken seriously.
Starting point is 00:10:16 If he has some examples, I'd be happy to engage with them at that point, but this is just talking shit. But Alex is saying isn't true, and that's why he has no specifics. Well, based upon what he's saying, the description of the symptoms that he's describing brain rot. It is happened. Wet liver. It has happened one time before that I can recall, and that was at a certain point.
Starting point is 00:10:39 The Ark of the Covenant was opened. Sure. Right. mRNA arc. Yes, exactly. And if you don't have virtual eyes from the mRNA, guess what happens? mRNA. mRNA.
Starting point is 00:10:49 mRNA. mRNA. Yes. Yes, there we go. So as for this New York man, Alex doesn't have any of the information on this that's worth reporting. Like there's nothing that he knows that brings this to the level of it being something that should be on his show.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Right. And he's being a real shithead. Yeah. This is about 27 year old Terry Horgan, who suffered from a very rare form of muscular dystrophy. His brother Richard was the head of a nonprofit called Cure Rare Disease, which had led a push for exploring gene editing therapy possibilities for conditions like the one his brother had. Terry was going to get a tailor made treatment and it signed up for it, but he passed.
Starting point is 00:11:25 According to stat news, quote, it's unclear when or even if he received the experimental treatment. In reality, this is a rare condition that is pretty commonly fatal. It's been estimated that between the ages of 20 and 25, 86 out of 1000 patients with this condition would die. And past the age of 40, that number goes up to 336 out of 1000 every year. The median survival age of someone born in the year that Terry was with this condition is 28.1 years, which is close to 27, which was the age that he is.
Starting point is 00:11:59 We don't know if he even got the treatment. And even if he did, we have no idea if it was connected to his passing. Even if we do find out that it was connected to the treatment, it wasn't an mRNA treatment. And this has nothing to do with COVID vaccines. Alex is a monster trying to capitalize on this young man's death and exploit him so he can be used as a prop to push anti-vax bullshit. It's disgraceful. And if I were this guy's brother, I would probably think about suing Alex.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah, I mean, leave this one alone. I feel like this is a situation, if I understand correctly, where there's a nonprofit geared towards people who have diseases that are essentially impossible for a pharmacy company or anything to think, well, we need to develop a therapy for this. Yeah, it wouldn't be within their profit motive. Right. So you're not going to wind up getting all of the trials and everything you need to develop any therapy within any kind of reasonable length of time through the FDA or all of those
Starting point is 00:12:57 possible channels. If you go through all these testings and all that stuff, something along those lines where it is, hey, we've got this rare disease. We've got people who are in a situation where it's like, hey, oh my god, this hasn't been tested enough. Who fucking cares, man? I don't know enough. Or whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I haven't looked into it enough to know, so I don't want to sign off on your description. I'm not saying that that's an accurate description. I'm sure that there has been some tests that have been done, like, in vitro. Of course. Right. I'm not saying they're like, hey, we found something in the woods. Let's see what it is. If it works.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I don't think it is like that, but I do think that there is something to the, you know, just the reality that some of these larger pharmaceutical companies wouldn't explore. It wouldn't be in their interest to explore some of these things, so that's some of the work that's left to smaller nonprofits. That's more my description is that they wouldn't have any reason because they're about money. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, this is sad, no matter what.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Alex, using it for his own purposes, sucks, and he can go fuck himself. Just leave everybody like that alone. So now back to politics. So that's coming up as well. And boy, a bunch of globalists have come out and announced world government. We've got that for you. That was nice of them. And so we've got that return coming up next, you're going to get right into all of the
Starting point is 00:14:20 election news. And boy, we suspected fraud Tuesday night, but now the evidence is overwhelming. We've got the Trump to Santa Civil War kicked off by Trump, got mixed feelings about that. Bet you do. I mean, that's how civil wars are supposed to work. You're supposed to have mixed feelings about them. Well, I mean, you know, when you're fighting brother against brother, the point, not not the ideological let's stop slavery part, obviously, Alex doesn't have mixed feelings
Starting point is 00:14:46 about the Civil War. Right. Mixed feelings about this one. Yes. So Alex has no concrete evidence in any way of election fraud, but he is now definitively proven it. Yeah. Also, every single episode, not every episode, but a lot of episodes that you can go back
Starting point is 00:15:02 through like a decade ago, 15 years ago, and he'll say the globalists are announcing world government. I mean, it is. They finally come out and said it like, oh, again, really? Wow. The blasé nature of the way he describes it too, as though it's another blind news item coming up. Like, listen, if there's actually world government announced, I'm going to hear about it as more
Starting point is 00:15:23 of a big deal. Globalists have announced world government and in other news, squirrel water skis. Exactly. Another ham stolen. Another ham has been stolen by the EU. Yes, exactly. So Alex does not like this idea that Trump and DeSantis are fighting. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I understand. Also, we're going to be looking at what Trump said last night on his true social coming out and attacking Governor DeSantis. Not a good idea. That's exactly what the corporate media wants. They've had CNNs, New York Times, Fox News, all of the establishment media other than a few exceptions like Eric Carlson have come out and have praised DeSantis and attacked Trump and said that Trump's the reason we didn't win bigger in the midterms and all
Starting point is 00:16:09 this made up garbage to get us fighting with each other. And Trump with his ego as big as the moon has taken the bait. You know, I love Trump and come out and attack DeSantis when DeSantis has never attacked Trump. And so now it's not about a stolen election or an attempted steal. Now it's not about Biden being 80 and a geriatric patient. It's not about Federman being a mentally, you know, destroyed giant zombie goblin leader. It's none of that.
Starting point is 00:16:39 It's all about Trump DeSantis and Trump is the reason Republicans didn't win bigger. Still distraction from reality and Trump has waited straight into it and is attacking DeSantis. I wish he would just stop. Zombie goblin leader, Alex was struggling to land that sentence. Oh, boy. So you can hear Alex expressing something in this clip that makes a lot of sense. He doesn't like the idea of Trump and DeSantis fighting because that's a competing narrative
Starting point is 00:17:07 from his own and it's one that he can't really profit from. Alex wants all the right wing audience to be swept up in the stop the steal type stuff where he can do another dumb caravan tour and yell at rallies about how much proof he has of election fraud. That's great for Alex because he can make a lot of money off that and never has to prove a damn thing and he gets to be seen as the crusading hero of the Patriots. Conversely, Trump DeSantis is a dead end. That fight is no good for Alex because neither choice is really that great for his bottom
Starting point is 00:17:36 line. And if the audience is forced to pick a side because they're fighting, Alex is expected to have a position. Yep. Alex has already done his whole I give Trump two weeks to come out against the vaccine or else I'll attack him and Trump didn't give a single shit. Alex is already embarrassed himself with his constant. I swear I'm leaving this time for real stuff that he does.
Starting point is 00:17:55 If he does actually decide that he doesn't want to be on Trump's side anymore, who cares? It won't have any impact and the only result will be pissing off the members of his audience that's still like Trump and staying as things are and being on Trump's team again is also embarrassing because Alex made all these ultimatums and Trump didn't care, which shows that Alex is a spineless coward. On the flip side, going over to DeSantis has its own problems. Many of the listeners, particularly long term listeners, have a little bit of hero fatigue. They were sold a bill of goods about how Trump was going to change everything and he was
Starting point is 00:18:26 the God appointed leader they needed to trust no matter what and what it amounted to. Basically nothing but chaos and an ego driven asshole picking fights. Having gone through all that, it's understandable if many of the listeners aren't super keen to adopt a new God King, once bitten twice shy and all that. You would think. There's problems here with this fight. This is not the state of affairs Alex wants to see. In a perfect world, Trump and DeSantis would work together or at very least they would
Starting point is 00:18:53 be like kind of respecting opponents so Alex wouldn't have to pick a side this early. This is clearly bad for his wallet at this point. Yeah, I mean, I feel like the main issue for him is he's kind of pot committed with Trump less because of the electorality kind of situation and more so just because of the personality connection to the two of them. He's not going to relate to DeSantis and DeSantis is never going to give Alex a bone. Probably not. Although, you know, you never really would think that I've been surprised by stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:33 True. That is true. DeSantis could get desperate. True. But I mean, if the point that everybody is making about their fight is that people are tired of Trump and would rather have DeSantis, someone who is less like Trump, it makes even way less sense for DeSantis to be like, and now Alex is my buddy, you know, you don't want that loud, bombastic asshole right around you.
Starting point is 00:19:55 It would sort of lessen the appeal of the, I'm not Trump. Exactly. Yeah. You make a good point there. Yeah. So I feel like I think that Alex is right. You're right that Alex is sort of pot committed with Trump, but I also don't think he understands that.
Starting point is 00:20:11 No, not at all. And he should, you know, just like on our last episode, Ali Alexander was saying that in fours, they're his ride or dies, right, right. And I think Alex should stay to his, his word and be a ride or die with Trump. Here's what I say. Here's what I say that they have to do. This is the smart play for Alex. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Um, say, I don't care which of them comes out on top because whoever comes out on top is going to be the better candidate because they're going to fight each other so much harder than any Democrat could fight that all of their bullshit will be out and by the time that we're ready to play against the Democrats will be unstoppable. That's the way iron sharpens iron. That kind of thing. This except it doesn't work when it's Trump and dissent because that's going to get so ugly.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I know, but that's what they want, right? But they don't know because you, you can't hold back while it's getting ugly. Right. Like you could be like, let's see who comes out on top when everyone's throwing shit at each other. That's what I know, but that's, that would be the fun thing. That's what they, that's what they, the, what would drive money to Alex is nonstop fighting. Sure.
Starting point is 00:21:20 But you have to have your side in the, you can't have nonstop fighting and it being like, well, let's look at these two fight like watching Trump and Hillary in 2016 wouldn't have been valuable to Alex if he wasn't like into Trump and hated Hillary. Sure. Sure. Sure. That is what drove the interest of the audience. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And so like if it's two guys who you're both, you're supposed to like both of them and they fucking hate each other, right? That's kind of difficult. But here's the thing that people are discounting. And that is that the way you get famous is you have rat battles, man. I'm talking about, you got to have some, you got to have two pocket biggie. You got to have two people rivaling. You got to have fights going on.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And then everybody is like, oh, we've got to pay attention to this. That's the way you do it. DeSantis shows up and he's like, drop a beat. Do it. Absolutely. Alex is like, move. Yeah. So anyway, Alex doesn't like Trump's statement that he made on truth social, but he also
Starting point is 00:22:23 thinks it's true. He's also set to announce he's running for president. Great. I'm mad at Trump over the shots. Wish he would have come out against him like DeSantis did. But overall, the globalist hate Trump more than anybody. He's anti-New World Order. He's obviously better than the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:22:39 But it's just, we need to not be fighting with each other, ladies and gentlemen. We need to not be battling with each other. It really is that simple. Statement by President Donald J. Trump for the president of the United States of America. And he goes into how about Fox News is basically boosting DeSantis and not him for president. And he made DeSantis and DeSantis has all these neocons fluttering around him that he's meeting with. Which is true.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I don't like Jeb Bush hanging around. I don't like Mitt Romney hanging around. But you know what? Trump's hung out with all those guys too till they triple-statted him in the back. So the jury's out on that with DeSantis. And I'm not going to get in this money pageant of Trump's better or DeSantis is better or Trump's worse or DeSantis is worse. I'm just not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And people need to stay focused on inflation, the open borders, the exploding crime, the war in Ukraine, the poison shots, how they're trying to come back out with more forced injections and lockdowns in the future. I'm in good luck trying to take some kind of a high road. Yeah. This show is like a gossip show for the extreme right. Like as soon as words start flying, it's going to be like all Alex could talk about. And if he doesn't, his audience will be calling in and they'll be like, you know, why do you
Starting point is 00:23:56 think about this? It'll be so conspicuous if he doesn't get in the mud and make it a beauty pageant. And absolutely zero people think that or zero people want that. We all got to come together. Message from Alex. Yeah. You can have, though, some people on the right want, though, we should all come together. Maybe most of them want that, but you're not going to Alex to get it.
Starting point is 00:24:19 No, but I also think that you're maybe mischaracterizing what he means by that. No, no, no, of course. He doesn't mean let's get Kumbaya here. No, no, no. What he means is more like we all got to get together with the narrative. We can't let this be the thing everybody's talking about because if it is, I can't. I got no room to play here. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But you don't want Alex to be the guy saying, don't fight. He's Alex fucking Jones. Well, I mean, you know, on January 6th, he was yelling in the bullhorn telling everybody, cool it. Well, it hasn't gotten better since then has it. Nope. So, yeah, Trump took the bait. Sure.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I don't know who was baiting him. Who was baiting him? I don't know. Oh, DeSantis. And instead of making it about the Democrats trying to steal the election and blunting the victory, instead of making it about how we need to get rid of the Republican, Neocon, Rhino, corporatist leadership like Mitch McConnell and others, instead of that, it's all about Trump and DeSantis.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And that's why the Republican establishment is weighed in with the liberal media to try to create a Trump DeSantis rift and old 45 has taken the bait like a big old bash. You put a purple worm in front of. Trump didn't take any bait. He's just an asshole who lashes out at people constantly. Yeah. He feels like his position in the extreme right-wing sphere is threatened by DeSantis because it is.
Starting point is 00:25:41 So he's attacking him. It's honestly shocking that Trump waited until after the midterm 100 percent. I guess that's a pretty good strategy. Like you don't want the Democrat to win the Florida governor race, particularly because Trump lives in Florida. So you wait until immediately after to attack because at this point it's about the 2024 general election. And still, that is an amazing amount of restraint for someone like Trump to.
Starting point is 00:26:03 That's true. That's true. I mean, it goes back to what Alex said earlier of like Trump attacked with and DeSantis didn't nobody attacked first. And it's like, yeah, what do you expect Trump to only attack in retaliation? That's the way you view him. Yeah. Trump is a pacifist until you comment him.
Starting point is 00:26:23 He's not at all aggressive. No, no, no, no. Yeah, for sure. All right. Gotcha. Gotcha. So here's some good news. But it's kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Owen is still reporting from the big board. Wait, this is Friday. I'd like to imagine that he hasn't left. He's just still there. He's tied with one ankle to a chain yet. He's got his his neck tie like undone. And he's he's haggard. But he's still at the big board and he's checking in on Arizona.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Sure. Let's talk about where we stand right now. I don't like what I'm seeing in Arizona. And despite the confidence that Lake and Masters still have that these late night last minute ballot dumps are going to favor them. I'm just not seeing it, Alex. They're not getting the returns they thought they thought they were going to be getting about 60, even even 70 percent of some of these last minute
Starting point is 00:27:16 returns coming from more conservative areas. They're just not getting it. They're just not getting it. In fact, Katie Hobbs lead was actually extended last night with the late night last minute ballot drop still coming in. They say 82 percent are in. So this is going to be a miracle comeback at this point. I think for Kerry Lake and then even farther behind now is Blake Masters
Starting point is 00:27:39 to the incumbent Mark Kelly. I that that will take a miracle at this point for Masters to pull this one off. I don't know how he does. The returns are not coming in favorable right now for Republicans. And it's been shown that the incumbents did really well. So there's a minute of Owen sort of covering the election results and not making it a conspiracy, which I was surprised by. I don't know what I'm hearing.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Well, I mean, it's it is what it is. I mean, it's pretty much just kind of like here's here's numbers are coming in. No, no, no, I mean, I know what I'm hearing. Right. You know, like, I know that I'm hearing Wolf Blitzer at the board. I'm frustrated that one Wolf Blitzer isn't tied to the board, too. Sure. And two, that it's Owen doing this. What is happening? I think maybe the Owen kind of like experienced it on midterm night.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah. He was like, I got to get better in that. Got to get better at this. Maybe this is my maybe. Let me let me give this another shot. Let me see if I can just say some information instead of some dumb bullshit about Philadelphia County. I'm bummed out because I've got Alex giving me let's all come together. And I've got Owen trying to be a journalist. This is this is bullshit.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I mean, Owen does still say a bunch of dumb shit. Well, yeah. But he's trying to be a journalist. And he also says some things that are like a fair point. This was a three headed monster, if you will, or a trifecta of the new brand of conservative, the fighter, the one that takes on the media, the one that takes on the establishment, the one that's not afraid to back Trump or give him trouble if they have to. And so we were kind of looking at this race in Arizona, saying
Starting point is 00:29:21 this could be a determining factor of what the future of the Republican Party looks like. If we have big wins in Arizona, this new breed of Republican that Lake and Masters and Hamaday represent is going to be the type of person the Republicans may want to put forward. Well, they're not winning. Yeah. I mean, he's he's giving an assessment of, you know, they did this was this new new idea. This these are our kind of candidates and they are all losing. We tried unqualified stupid assholes,
Starting point is 00:29:52 and we thought it was working really well there for a while. But now it doesn't seem like it's working. Uh-huh. We took the wrong message from 2020. Yeah, good bait. Our message was everything is stolen. Not a great lesson. Turns out it doesn't help. Everything is stolen. Let's run weirdos. Let's do it again, baby. Run it again.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Anyway, I think that here's where things fall apart for Owen. And then the runoff would just be like a gravy for them. If they can get that in Georgia, which sadly, I kind of expect them to win. At this point, I'm not sure what the Republican plan is for Georgia. If they think going on get another abortion is the key. If they think going on Sean Hannity is the key, then they're going to lose. Period. That's it. End of sentence. They have no boots on the ground.
Starting point is 00:30:40 They have no plan. Nothing from McConnell. Where is McConnell, by the way? Anybody heard from McConnell these last couple days? No, he's hiding in a hole. He's loving what he's seeing. He wants to lose the Senate. He wants to lose the Senate so he can blame it on Donald Trump. And then make his number one initiative from now till 2024 is to get Trump out of the party, no matter what you the voter think.
Starting point is 00:31:08 This is what it's all about. This is the new battle for the GOP. This is a good conspiracy. Yeah, this really is. It is not too far to be. It's not like you're not being overly ambitious. Nope. You are. Obviously, there is a understandable and believable problem.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And that is that Mitch McConnell is pissed off about Trump basically taking over the GOP. Indeed. So in order to resolve this, you tank the midterms and then you blame it on Trump. Right. And just like that, you're out of the woods and you're safe. It's not quite that simple. No, but yeah. But in terms of a conspiracy that you're going to make about losing the midterms.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Pretty good. Well, I mean, as far as the conspiracy goes, I don't even think that's a conspiracy theory so much as it is like, okay, I think this might be a fairly workable plan that might work, you know. And if McConnell's McConnell's plans have so far worked, I wouldn't put it past him to have a good plan. Well, I think that staying the majority leader is probably more important to him. Probably.
Starting point is 00:32:15 But like what you're saying is totally accurate. There is a like an A to B to C of the plan. Yes. It makes sense. It's it's it works. You can. I mean, I don't know if it works or works, but things fall apart in stage three. I think yes.
Starting point is 00:32:30 That's the part where you blame Trump and magically everybody doesn't like him. Yeah. That part is going to be a little bit of a problem in execution. I mean, you can see that he's probably helping juice the media narrative go along and all that stuff. But again, it's clearly getting yelled at by the people that like Trump, you know, it's not like he's he's tricked them into liking him more. It's just rare that you hear a conspiracy being thrown out by someone at Info Wars that like,
Starting point is 00:32:56 well, at least has the grammar of conspiracy. Well, I mean, it is and it's also such like it is not it's not out of reason. I mean, look, McConnell. I find it out of reason. No, McConnell blocks the Supreme Court justice. You know, like there's there's a plan behind that. It's not clear like A to B to see like, if I do this, then this will happen. We'll get Trump and then we'll fill that seat finally.
Starting point is 00:33:22 There was always the possibility that Hillary was going to win and they were going to have to fill it. But he's the one who orchestrated that whole idea. So that's a long shot. Exactly. And giving him this is a long shot. Why not? You know, I don't know if it happened this way at all. Hear me out.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I'm saying it's reasonable to think that he might have tried this. Hear me out. Okay. All right. I don't think that this is I don't think this happened. I think it's probably I agree with you on that. 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,840 Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Now, 10 years from now, if someone writes a book and it's a tell all where Mitch McConnell says, I threw those midterms in order to get Trump out of my hair. Yeah. I don't think I'd be that surprised. Exactly. Yes. That's what I'm saying. But I also don't think it happened.
Starting point is 00:34:04 And I don't think there's any evidence for it. I agree with that, too. Okay. Yes. As long as we're on the same page. Yes. So anyway, the Trump-DeSantis thing is bait. You are absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And that's why we cannot take the bait and get into this DeSantis versus Trump versus DeSantis garbage. And Trump is really taking the bait and we care about Trump. But you're absolutely right. We need to focus on the Republican leadership and on this election fraud and on issues. We've got to get that talking point out. And our millions of listeners right now and viewers can do that, folks. Don't take the bait of this Trump-DeSantis garbage. We've got to stay on McConnell, Kev McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:34:39 We've got to stay on these elections. We've got to stay on the issues. There is no bait. It's Trump being an asshole. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, the irony, of course, is that they have no governing ability, policy, ideas, anything. The issues are tough.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Yeah, exactly. I can't believe they're all saying that. Like they haven't very clearly been removing anyone with ideas as a matter of principle. We have to stick to the policy conversations. What policy? What policy? Lock her up. Why was the last time you heard of a tax plan that was fucking anything, even reasonable?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Can I suggest lock her up? How about a 10% flat tax across? Those are, what issues are you talking about? 999. Insane. Herman Cain. Insane. So, you know, if you're doing a post-mortem here on the midterms, you're going to find a lot of places
Starting point is 00:35:44 to place blame. And Alex has an interesting one. A lot of things happen. Republicans are going to win no matter what. You don't have to vote. But we know there was the same playbook of fraud in the key battleground states we saw before. The unexplained ballot drops in Georgia and Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Nevada, and Colorado. So none of that is real.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Everything is the globalist's fault, though, apparently. Even your feelings are just the result of the globalists tricking you into feeling that way. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. So I guess the GOP overconfidence was part of why they didn't win the midterms, and that was caused by the globalists in the media who were saying that the GOP was going to win, which caused Republicans to stay home and not vote. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Which is stupid. Yes. I'm not sure that many of the voters Alex is talking about take their voting cues from the mainstream media, but an even bigger problem is that Alex was constantly talking about how the midterm was going to be a red tsunami and a bloodbath. If reporting that the GOP was going to win big is actually a Psyop to lower GOP voting, then Alex is the guiltiest party of that. Also, Alex has presented literally nothing to support his claims of voter fraud and irregularity.
Starting point is 00:37:00 This is just something he can assert with no evidence, and it's accepted as proven by the audience at this point. They've been taught to feel that everything that they don't win has been stolen from them, so no proof is necessary to defend this claim that they feel is deeply true. Yeah. Yeah, it is funny. I was talking to my family, and they're not election voter fraud like, oh, they're stealing elections so much as they're like, well, I mean, obviously,
Starting point is 00:37:29 they steal elections. Everybody steals elections. Like, there's no fair election. You know, if Democrats are stealing elections, Republicans are stealing. Like, there's an equilibrium that's simultaneous with the real one where nobody's doing voter fraud. They've just moved it over to everyone's doing voter fraud. You know, it's like a switch.
Starting point is 00:37:49 It's weird. It's a bizarro world. Yeah, it is bizarro world. Dark universe. Yeah, and you know, everybody voted, but also everybody stole the same amount of votes that other people stole, so it all kind of washes out. This isn't going to get better. No.
Starting point is 00:38:07 So anyway, we got a guest. Sure. He may or may not have shown up on midterm Eve, but I don't know because he was hanging out with Mike Lindow. Oh, no. We got Roger. We got the stone zone. We still don't know who won the U.S. Senate race in Nevada.
Starting point is 00:38:24 We still we're going to a sudden death runoff, I think, in Georgia right now. What I'd like to see in all honesty is Governor DeSantis has got $150 million in his federal pack. How much is he sending to Herschel Walker? Donald Trump has got tens of millions of dollars in his federal pack. How much is he sending to Herschel Walker? That's what I was saying earlier. We should see the Republicans all behind Herschel Walker right now. We're hearing almost nothing.
Starting point is 00:38:53 It's and meanwhile, Raphael Warnock, who's an extreme leftist, you know, you remember him, the guy who ran over his wife with a car. I'm sorry. What uses Herschel Walker being mentally unbalanced? That guy's taken in $50 million. So yeah, that's just something that Roger's repeating from an attack ad put out by the Walker campaign. Sure, sure. They allege that in a fight during their divorce, Warnock hit his now ex-wife with a car.
Starting point is 00:39:20 In reality, she had claimed that he had run over her foot, but there's a little bit of trouble with the story. Firstly, Warnock was the one who called the police to his ex-wife's home to report that she had accused him of running over her foot. The police came and found that she was, quote, reluctant to show her foot to an officer, and the police report said this, quote, I did not see any signs of Ms. Oluye's foot was run over, not able to locate any swelling, redness or bruising or broken bones on the left foot. It's entirely possible that he could have run over her foot and not left any of those signs.
Starting point is 00:39:56 It's not likely, but it is possible. It could happen. It's possible. If this is what Roger has to attack Warnock with compared to the very clear and verifiable dirt that Walker has got going against him, this doesn't feel very compelling. I know that Roger is an attack-only kind of guy and he needs to use whatever ammunition's available to him, but this feels pretty weak. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Makes me feel like the Dems are probably going to hold onto Georgia. Well, we'll see. We'll see. We will. Who knows? You know, it's like what we saw, there's tons of narratives, but it feels like what we saw was just old people and young people tied, you know? But Roger is the voice of the attacking old person.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Exactly. That does not feel very strong. It's not good. Yeah. So, look, here is where things fell apart for me when I was preparing this episode. Hours, perhaps. What did Roger say? Well, it's more something, Alex.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Okay. A couple years ago, in an event, Roger Stone was t-boned and almost killed. It happened again, going in Memphis to a big event and Frank speaks TV. That's how crazy this is getting. So, Roger just keeps getting t-boned in the middle of nowhere. Roger keeps getting t-boned. So, what about the polonium poisoning?
Starting point is 00:41:19 If you are continually t-boned in the middle of nowhere, that is a different story to me. It seems, and I could be wrong, I could be wrong, but it seems more likely to be t-boned in an area where there are more cars around you. That's just math in my head. Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I wonder, it's my perception, and I don't know this based on any statistics, but it's my perception that people are a little bit looser with driving drunk in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:41:48 That's definitely been the case in my growing up in the middle of nowhere. Totally, from my time in central Missouri. Exactly, yeah. From my time in central Illinois. Basically, the center of all states. Now, that being said, I also know a lot of people who drive drunk in Chicago, but they're also comedians, so that is a... That's not fair.
Starting point is 00:42:06 That's a confounding variable. Yeah. Anyway, the car accident that Roger had in Florida was really weird, one of the t-bonings. This happened back in 2017, and the circumstances of that one were really bizarre. Oh my God, of course they were. Roger was apparently in the car, and there was supposedly a hit-and-run accident. The police are called, but for some reason they don't show up until 70 minutes later, and when they get there, Roger's nowhere to be found.
Starting point is 00:42:33 He apparently waited 30 minutes, then got in Uber, leaving the scene of his alleged assassination attempt. I don't buy the whole, like, this was a, they were trying to take me out kind of thing, based on the circumstances. Yeah. So he was just in another car accident in Memphis, or just outside Memphis, and this is one I've seen pictures of the car, because they posted some pictures, and it looks like a bad crash.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Ooh. I don't know if there's any evidence that it was done intentionally, but that car was banged up. Ooh. So the crash itself happened in Germantown, Tennessee, and their police department has a Twitter account where they have a habit of giving people updates on things like traffic situations. For instance, on October 21st, they tweeted, quote, Our officers are working a motor vehicle crash in the area of Poplar Avenue and Brackton Avenue. Currently, we have traffic shut down, consider using an alternate route.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Or on September 9th, they tweeted, quote, Two-car vehicle crash at Poplar in Germantown Road. East travel lanes are blocked. Please use an alternate route. Sure. On November 10th, right around when Roger's accident would have happened, they tweeted, quote, Officers are on the scene of a crash where a utility pole was struck and damaged on Wolf River Boulevard near Riverdale.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Westbound lanes on Wolf River are being diverted, causing delays in the area. There's no other tweets about car accidents or traffic issues since October 24th. I don't think this was Roger because I found another news report about this accident. The person driving the car was taken to the hospital. But here's how I ended up wasting so much time. I am interested to know. I saw a picture of the car. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And it had an upward angle. No. And I saw a bridge. Oh my God. You didn't geolocate, did you? I was trying. You were geolocating? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I was Google Earthing all around Germantown. We got to hook you up with those guys who can geolocate anything playing that one game. There probably was a better way I could have done this. But anyway, I wasted a lot of time. Part of their skills is just memorizing the world. You should try that. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I'll work on it. Yeah. So the Germantown Police Department also has a Facebook page that they're more active on. And they have a daily post where they list the crimes that they responded to that day. I don't understand that, but fine. Roger's accident occurred on either the 9th or the 10th of November. I'm not entirely sure. I believe it was the 9th.
Starting point is 00:44:55 But there's also a story that came out on the 11th that implies that it was yesterday, so the 9th or the 10th. Let's just say that in proper stone fashion, the details are murky. Yes. On the 9th, police responded to a report of someone being in possession of a stolen vehicle and, quote, an unknown suspect started a small fire in a trash can. So that's the 9th. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Then there were four crimes on the 10th. Missing ham. One was two people fighting. Two involved reports of forged checks. And the last one was, quote, a complaint reporting the theft of a catalytic converter. Ooh. The only conclusion I can come to after spending way too much time on this is that if Roger really believed that he'd been the target of an assassination attempt
Starting point is 00:45:44 by way of this car accident, it seems strange that they didn't call the police. That is, as the kids say, very sus. That is interesting. And it does not appear that they called the police about this. I mean, even if it was just a hidden run or even if it's just an accident, you would call the police. Well, don't you have to have the police report for your insurance claim or whatever? Yeah. And based on everything I can find about the Germantown Police Department's
Starting point is 00:46:08 transparency and their social media, it does not appear that Roger called them. Interesting. The plot, well, I mean, it just comes a little bit murkier than usual. It's still Roger. This sounds right. He could have been hit by a polonium poisoning driving a car. Sure. Like, that's what is going on.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I come to no conclusions other than this is sus. The car is not in perfect shape. Yes. That is what we can conclusively say. Now, I will give Roger credit because he doesn't think that this was an assassination. Uh-oh. I'm fine. There's no reason to believe a political motive.
Starting point is 00:46:46 The guy wasn't wearing a Black Lives Matter t-shirt. They didn't find a copy. But if memory serves, did you just get t-boned like a year and a half ago? I was longer than that. And of course, we never learned who that was. In other words, whoever struck the car didn't do so much damage to their own car. They were able to back up and pull away. And the local police were never able to identify who had done that.
Starting point is 00:47:09 So it remains unsolved to say the least. Weird. So I applaud Roger for not thinking that this was a political hit. Kind of shitty that he kind of still thinks the one in 2017 was. Yeah. But here's another problem with what he just said. He said that this wasn't political. And he's basing that on the person not wearing a Black Lives Matter shirt.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Yeah, that was this. Well, I mean, beyond it just being dumb. Sure. This implies that he saw the driver. Indeed. So he didn't call the police. He's withholding information about a hit and run driver. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I don't buy it. I don't buy it either. No. I just don't. I think he might have hit a pole. I think he might have hit the utility pole. I think he was the guy who hit the utility pole. I don't.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I don't. I mean, yeah, that's what makes sense to me. That's just what I got. It's infuriating. Well, it's not like I'm going to trust Roger as a default. Sure. It would be unwise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:04 So Owen has some more analysis here. And I think that this is really sad. I think he just is trying to struggle with the fact that there are more people in cities and that people in cities tend to be more liberal. Ah, what the hell is going on in Atlanta? What the hell is going on in Phoenix? What the hell is going on in these major cities, Chicago,
Starting point is 00:48:23 you name it, where Democrats get 70%, 80%, sometimes in New York, 90% of the vote until Republicans address that issue and try to mitigate those margins, I don't see them winning anything, quite frankly. I just don't see how it happens with these margins that are coming in from these major cities. Do they trust the results? Is that just because Republicans just have abandoned
Starting point is 00:48:45 the major cities? They don't even bother? Is it voter fraud? Is it election fraud? I don't know. They won't look into it. And so they never have a chance. And then in these state elections, they just get overwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I mean, New York is a perfect example. If you take out New York City, the state of New York is red. And it's not even close. Absolutely, I would swear. What a great point. Yeah, yeah. If you disenfranchise the largest city in the United States, then the state is red.
Starting point is 00:49:12 It is absolutely not possible to consider that perhaps when large groups of disparate, different people get together, recognize how very, very, very similar they are and live in the same community together, they don't think that it's all black people's fault. Yeah. You know, but if, say, you lived in the middle of nowhere in a small town with nothing but white people,
Starting point is 00:49:36 boy, it sure seems easy to say it's all black people's fault. I feel like the messaging, especially the current GOP, and the fringe-y-ass weirdos like Alex and Owen, their messaging does not ring true to folks who live in cities and have broader life experience. I don't believe. And I do think that Owen does have a point that the people in the GOP will have a difficult time
Starting point is 00:50:00 winning elections if they can't make any kind of an appeal to people who live in cities. Right. And I think one of the things that they should think about is changing their fucking message. Wow. But instead, it's like, oh, it's all voter fraud. Why won't they investigate this?
Starting point is 00:50:14 You've spent the last two fucking years screaming about this and people having investigations that go nowhere. Yeah. Come on, man. Just change your message. People don't like it. Yeah, I mean, it does seem silly if what it seems like is true that old people and young people tied.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I mean, I wouldn't want to be on the side of old people for the future. You know what I'm saying? That's not a winning strategy if we're like, let's choose the dead ones. That's not going to help. As time goes on, it becomes worse and worse of an option. You got to pick up new.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yeah. So Alex plays a clip of a guy. He doesn't say who he is. I don't believe. He's just a financial guy. He's a financial guy. I didn't look into who this person was either because it was just really clear that Alex doesn't understand
Starting point is 00:50:59 what he's saying. And all of this actually matters for nature as well. Oh, yes. I'm going to quickly hand off. But again, I want to talk about value one more time because the southern part of the world has value far greater than large elements of the northern part. And when we start thinking about and putting prices
Starting point is 00:51:19 on water, on trees, on biodiversity, we find where does that sit? I'm doing a lot of work out of Asia. And I say that my next door neighbor, Indonesia, is the left lung of the world. And obviously Brazil's the right. And Africa, absolutely critical. And we need their natural capital as a system-based world
Starting point is 00:51:41 more than we need that 66 billion we've got sitting in the basement of the Bank of England. So how do we, and I'm hoping this discussion today, at least from a central banker's point of view, on how do we start tokenizing? How do we start building systems that actually create not only the value, but transfer that value around the world? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Oh, they're transferring my third world that they control the IMF and World Bank. Wow. Way wrong. And now they count for the trees and the animals. They vote for them. You don't have a vote anymore. That's their admitted plan.
Starting point is 00:52:14 It's really bizarre. He does not have comprehension skills, like really basic comprehension skills. Yeah. What's crazy is that that's actually a really terrifying thing to hear a central banker say. That's a scary thing that he just said. And Alex is like, oh, but the IMF, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I think it depends on exactly what the intentions are. Because there's a way to hear that that has more of a sense that the things like these rainforests in Brazil and such, they have a value that is greater to the system of the world than anything that we can really put a monetary value on, like in a logging industry or whatever forces are there that are concrete that would lead to deforestation. And so a system should be conceived of that allows
Starting point is 00:53:08 for the tokenization of these things existing. Right. You know? Right. And I do think that it's kind of scary, but at the same time, it's kind of closer to conservation. Right. Now, in a similar way to Roger, in my default,
Starting point is 00:53:27 is not going to be believe him. Right. A central banker talking about natural resources is the most terrifying thing that can happen. That's in my head because when you say tokenize, what I'm hearing from them is, okay, all right, we've been owning this the wrong way. We've been strip mining.
Starting point is 00:53:51 What we need to do is own it the right way and grow stuff that we own. I can see why that impression comes to mind. And I'm not saying that's not what he was saying. Yeah. I think that there are ways to look at the implications of what he's saying. That kind of vary.
Starting point is 00:54:14 But we agree on what he's saying. Yes. And that is different than what Alex has heard. Alex has no idea what he said. He just thinks that, oh, we're going to take all the money from the Bank of England and give it to the South. Yeah, that is way off. So you just heard the Bank of England guy say,
Starting point is 00:54:29 we're going to transfer all the wealth out of the North to the South because there's more life in the South. And it's all about control. Take your money and enslave them. And now Biden's bumbling around at the new Paris Agreement 2.0, promising all of this to transfer our wealth to the globalists, not to the poor people who have had
Starting point is 00:54:48 under lockdown for years. Yeah, it's just it's tough to hear him and think like people take this seriously. 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,960 People, he has just basic inability to, he responds cold to things and he doesn't get them. Yeah. And that's kind of troubling.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Yeah, I mean, a lot of the times you can see him get enough of it and be emotional enough about the right part of it that you can kind of skip over that he doesn't understand most of it. Right. Or you can obscure that. Yes, yeah, yeah. In this regard, I mean, I can't see anybody who knows
Starting point is 00:55:26 less about what they're talking about, flounder more trying to look like they know what they're talking about. Yeah. It's terrible. Well, I mean, if you listen to as much of it as I do. That's a good point. You'd hear that a lot more.
Starting point is 00:55:36 That's a good point. It's not always necessarily something we talk about. And maybe I just needed to find some things to fill in this episode because this may be shorter for a couple of reasons. First, my sad attempt at geolocating a bridge. Hey, you did your best. Took a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:55:52 You did your best. I thought it would be so fun if I could come in and be like, I know where that bridge is. I know it would be really great. It would be, it would have paid off. It would have been a great risk like blocking a Supreme Court justice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:03 It doesn't always play out in your favor and whatever. And the second reason is this. In defiance of the censors trying to silence us, Gavin McGinnis is our guest for the balance of the hour to talk about the midterms, the fraud we witnessed, this new rip between Trump and the Santas, the carbon taxes, the New World Order, the open borders, the war in Ukraine,
Starting point is 00:56:25 the insanity going on. He is the host of a very popular show at censored.tv, the founder of Vice and so much more needs and introduction. Gavin, thank you so much for being on with us, my friend. We didn't talk before he came on. I threw out kind of a plethora of things to hit, but what's front and center for you, my friend? A new phenomenon I'm calling chararism.
Starting point is 00:56:48 It's terrorism from a chair. Boo! I had a show in Rutherford, New Jersey last night and Antifa found out about it. They just terrorized with their thumbs, the venue owner, the chief of police, the mayor, and they don't have to show up. No one left their chair for any of this,
Starting point is 00:57:07 but the mayor got spooked. He called the chief of police who told the venue to shut it down and they did. Yeah, so what's first and foremost on Gavin McGinnis's mind is he had a show canceled. Yeah, the midterms. I mean, I had all of these important world events. We got to get into all of them,
Starting point is 00:57:26 but first, I had a show canceled. Most importantly, let's think about the true victim here, okay? Which is, of course. The venue had a two drink minimum. Oh, my God. They lost a lot on that, okay? That's bullshit. Unthinkable.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I genuinely thought he was in jail. I thought McGinnis was in jail for some reason. No, you thought that because he faked an arrest like a couple months ago. Oh, is that what happened? Yeah, he faked getting arrested. Fuck me. Why would I pay attention past that?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Yeah, well, actually, it's fun that you didn't because the reason that it came out that he faked it was because Owen Benjamin, who is, of course, the forest dwelling Nazi that used to host the fourth hour for Alex from time to time, he leaked texts between himself and Gavin, which, I mean, it speaks to the fact that him and Gavin are still on friendly terms even though he's
Starting point is 00:58:16 a forest dwelling Nazi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay, oh boy. Yeah. Yeah, so he, a couple months back on his show, he faked like a raid and then disappeared in the middle of the show, and it was all just like a stunt.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Oh my God. That he was faking getting arrested. So is he still touring as a comic? Yeah, he had a couple of shows canceled. One was like him and Alex Stein, that troll guy who yelled at AOC. Yeah, the two of them are apparently doing some like jokes. Doing some laughs.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Wow. Yep. Wow. Can't believe it. Nope, not good. So look, spending a lot of time trying to geolocate Roger's car, and then Gavin McGinnis being on the show. It's a real bummer.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Kind of makes it so like, I don't know. Like we have, I have clips that I cut of Gavin, but like, as we're talking and as I'm sitting here, he just says offensive things, like trying to bait reaction and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't really even think any of his analysis or the things that he says are worthwhile.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Like at one point, he says that his prediction is that Biden's going to beat Trump in 2024 because women are too emotional. Like that's the kind of thing. Great. I don't know. What's the point? Here's what I'm hearing.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Okay. His show should have been canceled because he thought that Charerist was funny. And that means that the shows are done. That's your opener, by the way. That's your Charerism. Wow, is that bad. Strong.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Wow, is that bad. And he came out with it like, ooh, this is my, this is my bit. I'm going to get in there. Yeah. I'm trying to see if there's anything even of these clips that's worth talking about. Rude.
Starting point is 00:59:57 And I don't think there is. Although I was sad to see him appear. Yeah. I don't, I don't know what, like, I don't, I don't know why you, you would, I thought he was a thing of the past. I thought he was fully disgraced by everybody and we had just moved on from him existing. Well, I mean, that never really happens with Info Wars.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah, that's true. Steve Pachanik comes back constantly. Yeah. He, he's, he's always around. Yeah. And I guess I wouldn't really be like, he, Gavin belongs in that part of my brain with like Cernovich and Jack Pasobic.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yeah. These people that like, I don't really see, I guess Jack Pasobic was on not too long ago, but Cernovich I don't think has been on Info Wars in a long time. Yeah. Lauren Southern, these kinds of people who like had been on in this like, this, this, this other period.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Right. Seeing him now, I'm like, this doesn't feel right. Yeah. Like it's not, his, his role is supposed to be like during 2016. He says offensive stuff and it's kind of like, we're all having fun on this show, trolling the libs with our offensive stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:03 And it's kind of tired now. That is bad. Yeah. I don't know if I like, his show's getting canceled now that I know that he's a comic because I kind of want him. I, and people don't know this, I think, uh, uh, is that, well, yes, canceling his shows might hit his wallet and all of that stuff real bad.
Starting point is 01:01:21 I think what would really hurt him though is to live through a lot of those shows that I've lived through where you've got 15 people who showed up and 12 of them were on free tickets. No, I don't think so because he has a, um, gang. Oh no. The proud boys. Oh, that's right. They all fucking love him.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Well, yeah. And also it might not hurt his wallet so much because he claims that he's going to sue the city of Rutherford, Jersey. Good luck. Just like he sued the SPLC and showed up at their headquarters with like a, like a handheld boom box mic and Ali Alexander hanging out with him.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Oh my God. Yeah. Oh, it's all great. Everything is cool. Fuck that guy. Wow. Hate him. Hate him.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Anyway, uh, I'm going to skip all his clips. So this is going to be a shorter episode. Yeah. Well, I think everybody will appreciate that they don't have to sit through 20 minutes of us being like, Gavin McGinnis, not funny. Yeah. I don't really have much commentary about him other than
Starting point is 01:02:16 his position suck. And I think he's just saying awful things in order to get a rise out of people and or yeah. So anyway, Alex has a new story to cover. Remember a month or so ago, the horrific footage of a shop teacher wearing giant fake breasts and engage in bizarre behavior in Ontario with the students. Well, the school board rules to allow male teacher for a
Starting point is 01:02:45 giant prosthetic breast to school. It's meant to make the whole system a joke and collapse. I want to be clear about something. I don't know enough about that whole story. When it happened, I just saw people. I don't care about complaining about it. And so I decided to sit out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:00 This one. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the circumstances of this teacher are or anything. Yeah. But Alex is lying. The school board reviewed their standards to see if there was
Starting point is 01:03:10 anything that they could do in terms of imposing a dress code and found that it could raise human rights concerns and also have implications in terms of labor rights and employment law. Right. But the board didn't make any position or change on this because they can't right now. The superintendent of human resources for the school board sorry, Taha said, quote, even if we are to consider a
Starting point is 01:03:32 workplace rule in that sense, we can't do that. This is because they're currently in the middle of collective bargaining and the board isn't permitted to make rule changes in the middle of that process. Right. Right. They make a good point, though, that even a good faith rule about dress code or grooming standards could easily end up
Starting point is 01:03:48 being applied in discriminatory fashion. But the larger point is that they're in collective bargaining. So they can't even consider a rule change. 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:55,280 Yeah. Yeah. Alex probably just saw a headline like the one in the national post that says, quote, school board concludes it
Starting point is 01:04:01 can't implement dress code after teacher wears giant fake breasts. And then he wrote his own story about it without looking into it any further and realizing that the reason that the headline says that they concluded they can't implement a dress code is because they're in collective bargaining. Right. But also there is a decent chance that they might not
Starting point is 01:04:17 even if they weren't. Yeah. No. I mean. The reason they can't is because they can't. Right. They physically in the universe, we inhabit. They can't make any rule change.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I lied. There's a third reason that this episode. Oh, no. Because Alex has another guest. Oh, no. Well, kid heck and lively is our guest in studio for the
Starting point is 01:04:37 balance of the hour to talk about his book bestseller presidential takedown and also talk about the midterms, what we're witnessing as an attorney science teacher and two-time New York Times bestseller. He's best known as co-author of the plague series, plague, plague, corruption and ending plague with Dr. Judy Mikovits. Great titles.
Starting point is 01:04:56 And it just goes on from there. We really appreciate him coming on with us today. And he didn't want to talk about this, but we're going to talk about it because I told everybody. I didn't just put this book together myself. I sent him a ton of material. We worked on a lot. We had to cut it down a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:10 We're probably going to write more books on it. But he really helped me write the great reset and the work of the world, which has been offered on a number one bestseller. It's been the bestseller of the New York Times. Ignored that. You can find the book at infowarstore.com. So, Ken, congratulations.
Starting point is 01:05:24 It's good to meet you in person. I look forward to having you on many times. I applaud Alex for giving a full disclosure on that, I guess. Yeah. But yeah, he's the guy who wrote Alex's book. Right. He's just a big old anti-vaxxer. Yeah, that sounds right.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Yeah. So, he has a large stretch of his career writing books with Judy Mikovits, the person who is behind Plandemic, that documentary, quote, unquote. Great. And so, he has a long career as a big-time anti-vaxxer. And in 2017, he ended up being denied entry
Starting point is 01:05:57 into Australia because of it. Yeah. Because he was just going to do a bunch of anti-vaxx rallies, and they're like, no. Yeah, fuck you. Get out of here. At that point, he had branded himself, quote, the world's number one anti-vaxxer.
Starting point is 01:06:12 So, it kind of gets rid of the arguments that he was trying to make when he was denied entry into Australia, that he was like just raising concerns and asking questions and stuff. And also, when he was told he couldn't come, he sent a letter to the Australian government that was taunting Malcolm Turnbull, the prime minister. Sure.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Here's a passage from that. Love it. Quote, if you wish to greet me at the airport when I land, I would be amenable to such an effort. Or if you think our meeting should be at the lodge, the primary residence of the prime minister, I would accept that as well. After all, I will be a guest in your country.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Please don't make too much of a fuss over my efforts, but if you would like to give me an award in recognition of my work to liberate Australia from the grip of the pharmaceutical industry, I like the sound of the order of Australia, officer of the order. Maybe it's the imperialist in me, but it just sounds so regal.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah, I can't, I can't, you know, I like talking shit to governments too. I can't argue with that. That's pretty funny. It is. I don't know. In another circumstance, it has a kind of socrates-ish... You know, you're just poking your thumb in the eye of the government,
Starting point is 01:07:24 you know. Taunting somebody who's saying, you cannot do this thing with like, not only can I, you should award me for it. Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's great. That's good stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:35 He's a piece of shit, but that's solid stuff. Yeah, his interview's boring, but he wrote Alex's book. Great. Great. I like the idea that they worked together. Please. Well, we had a few Zoom interviews where I went,
Starting point is 01:07:50 and he went, okay, I'll write that. I'm working on a little coverage of his book, I will say. Yeah. And that... Alex's fingerprints are all over it. Maybe some like idea things. No, I mean, he put his fingerprints on there, because that confirms that he wrote it, right?
Starting point is 01:08:08 It's in like chocolate sauce. Exactly. Yes. Yes, they were like, yes, Alex did write this. That's him signing the book at the end. Oh, this one's Hershey's syrup. This one's chili. Yeah, Alex didn't.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Some of the syntax in it, there's like, there's no way that Alex... Alex doesn't know about whom. Alex doesn't know about like dependent clauses. This is no chance. Alex thinks Mitch McConnell's name has an apostrophe D at the end of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And Tulsi Gabbards. Tulsi Gabbards, yes. He thinks that you drowned it. Drowned it. It's evil. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But there are a couple points where I'm like,
Starting point is 01:08:46 oh, that's Alex. He was on the phone for that one. Well, you got to have some little... Maybe you should have like little fun fact sections, you know, like let the guy write the book and then have Alex's little comments. Yeah, yeah, that'd be good. Yeah, like in a little, like in a textbook, you know.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Also, I want to say this, it's going to be a little while until I'm done with the coverage of his book. Sure. And any fruit will be born from that very evil tree. Yeah. But I want to give a little bit of a short synopsis. It sucks.
Starting point is 01:09:18 It's a bad book. It's a bad book. Kent Hickenloper did a terrible job. No, not a good... I don't even think that's his right, the name. It's Kent Hickenlifely. Kent Hickenlifely. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:29 He did a bad job. Also, I don't think that he wanted people to know that he wrote the book maybe or something because he's not acknowledged in any way until the back of the book and the thank yous. It's not, it doesn't say it on the spine. It doesn't say Alex and it doesn't say ghost written by. Nope.
Starting point is 01:09:49 In the acknowledgments at the beginning, there's no, like, it's nothing. Yeah, either he didn't want to have credit or Alex wanted to have all of the credit. Or, yeah, Alex wanted most of it to look like him. But then why did he bring it up when Kent said... Alex is saying that Kent said... We don't need to talk about that.
Starting point is 01:10:09 If Kent didn't want to be associated with the book, why is he going on the show? Although he's going on the show several... Here's another book. Oh, yeah. He's going on the show several weeks after. That's... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:20 If he wanted to... The heat on Alex's book is gone. Right. He would have... If he wanted to be part of the book, he would have been part of the heat part. Right. He has another book that he's promoting
Starting point is 01:10:31 that is why he's on the show. And he's also on the show because he did Alex a solid and wrote his book for him. Right. So... Right. Otherwise, I don't think this guy... Even though he is the world's number one anti-vexer.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Yeah, I'm... If I'm... Alex has never met him in person? From what I can understand, I am seeing that he was a far thinker and said, Sure, I'll write your shitty book so that I can always promote my books later on.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Yeah. And I am pretty clear that your audience would be into the kind of... Dreck that I put out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, good stuff. Yeah. Good stuff all around.
Starting point is 01:11:08 I did like the part... But responding to the midterms quite well. Yeah, they're taking it like champs. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, also, I forgot to mention this. Hick and Lively also runs a outlet called Great Awakening Books.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Which might be a little signal to QAnon. Yeah. Yep. They also sell a bunch of QAnon books. I did like the part in The Great Reset because... And I respected them for it. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:32 In this one, unlike certain adaptations, they left Tom Bombadil in. And that's what you want out of that. You know, hey, Dary Dahl ding dongadillo, man. You've got to have that in your book. If you don't, I'm pissed. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Frankly. Take it up with the blaze. So anyway, we come to the end of this and... Yeah. What a... What a... Fuck. What a fucking deed.
Starting point is 01:12:02 I mean, look. Between me wasting so much time on Google Maps. Right. And Gavin McInnes being on the show. Unfair. Unfair. What an awful fuck. What can one man take?
Starting point is 01:12:19 Anyway, we'll be back with another episode. But until then, we have a website. We do have a website. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at Knowledge of the Score Fight.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Hey, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. Hey, bro. Brr, brr, brr, brr, brr. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Have you...
Starting point is 01:12:36 You... You ever read The WikiLeaks? Oh, shit. You got to read that shit. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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