Knowledge Fight - #748: November 16, 2022

Episode Date: November 18, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex responded to Trump announcing his 2024 presidential campaign.  In this installment, Alex lies a bunch about medically assisted death, takes calls he doe...sn't want to deal with, and interviews a rambling weirdo with a flair for wordplay. Citations

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. Need money. Andy and Kansas, stop it. Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us. Hello Alex, I'm a Christian and I'm a huge fan and I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're going to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, talk a little bit about Alex Joe. Oh, indeed we are. Dan, Jordan, Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your brain spot today, buddy? My brain spot today, Jordan is I don't know if it's because winter
Starting point is 00:01:17 is upon us. It went from 70 to 30 in a week. Yep. Yep. It legitimately was like 70 degrees last Wednesday. That was an anomaly. It was it was unseasonably warm that day. Right. Right. Right. But 40 degrees. Oh, anyway, I've been a little down. Sure. I've mentioned this to you. Yes. Been been having some mental health days. People will, you know, it happens. You wrestle with some, some depression. That'll happen. Even folks who don't, you know, you have some days. And one of the things that I have done traditionally, I need to make a change, need to make some kind of a change in order to sort of kick myself out of the funk a little bit. Sure. You know, sometimes. And one of my old habits was I shaved my head. Yes. And I decided
Starting point is 00:02:09 maybe those days should be behind me and I should get haircuts and probably wise. I decided you look good with hair and you got a strong head of hair for your age, my man. You got a you got to rock it while you can. I guess. Yeah. But so I decided I still got to shave something. Sure. And so I got a back shaver naturally. I got one of those. Yeah, you got to shave something. I have never shaved my back before in my 38 years of life. Sure. And here's the thing. I thought it would be super easy with one of those arm things. Those long razors that you could put behind your back. What? No, no, no. Why would you think it would be easy because it's a tool? It's like we have got this tool. Are you saying that because we've
Starting point is 00:02:53 made it this far at some point, someone should have made eight and easy to use. I figured they had it covered. Yeah. I figured. Yeah. I figured. All right. Here's a problem. It's hard to shave your back. We have an old problem in order to make it easy. We have got this weird thing. Right. No, it is still not easy. I don't think I did a good job. And so far, the only result I have experienced because of it is it feels a little bit different and weird when I put a shirt on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds about right. That sounds about right. But hey, new experiences, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was I'm struggling to think, you know, obviously I love you. You're my best friend. You're my partner. I really don't know if I've got it in me to shave your back for you.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I just don't know. I didn't ask. I know you didn't ask. And that's why I'm saying this up front so we don't get into any awkward situations. I appreciate that. That's fine. I did take it in waves. I did a little, you know, I did a little work on it and then like a couple hours later, maybe I came back and I missed a little bit. Yeah. I still don't think, like I said, I still don't think I did a great job. But anyway, I do. I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to do. I think this is probably because I shaved my arms in anticipation of getting that tattoo right that I didn't end up getting. Of course. I think that kicked off a what's it like? Oh, man. And so now I know. Oh, my first, my first leg piece, I got my entire like upper thigh,
Starting point is 00:04:17 a whole thing done. And they shaved the whole thing swear to God for another year. I just kept shaving it. It felt really good to be smooth. I just kept on going. I was like, why stop now? I know that from like when I have shaved my head, being in the shower and water, hitting your bald head feels really great. Oh, yeah. Like there is something to that. But yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens. Anyway, I feel a little better. Yeah, good. How about you? My bright spot is my wonderful, my, my perfect wife. She had both her COVID booster and her flu booster yesterday. So this is a bright spot fluid. Yeah. That functions as a PSA to everybody. Get your booster shots and all that stuff. I hear this season's flu is quite bad,
Starting point is 00:05:03 both from the CDC and anecdotally from some folks I know who have fallen ill. Oh boy. So I would second that. I think it's probably a good idea. Yep. Well, I am happy for her. Luckily I am immune to all infectious diseases. So I don't have to worry about it. It's nice. That is one of the advantages of being the chosen one of the greats. Yeah. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. I had sort of prepared that we were going to, you know, maybe go back to the past. But I got to be honest, things are real boring in 2003. I'm going to skip ahead. I think that's why I'm skipping ahead to December 2003 for our next time. We go back to the past, but unfortunately we were pulled back to the present by some very
Starting point is 00:05:44 important things. That is the Trump announced his candidacy to run in 2024. Yeah. Yeah. And so today we will be talking about the aftermath of this on November 16th, 2022 to see how Alex wrestles with the reality that he's going to have to make a choice. Yep. Yep. And right now it has not been a huge ground swell of excitement from what I'm hearing. I would say the opposite. Everyone has apparently heard this and gone, Oh God, he's just trying to get out of jail. I think some people are saying that. Some people are saying we did this dance already. Some people are saying, Oh God. Oh God. But Alex is going to get down to really the nuts and bolts of it. He's going to talk about his feelings about this announcement.
Starting point is 00:06:34 He's going to play all the relevant coverage and the footage from Trump's announcement. Okay. And we'll get down to business on that. But first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wands. Oh, that's a great idea. So first June, who got one of Dan's bright spot buttons, so it'd be wild if they didn't become a policy wonk at some point. You are now a policy wonk. Thank you. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I got to say this brings up an important point. And that is that I think that at least one of these other bright spot buttons might have gotten lost in the mail. I may need to make some more because I know that one has been out and I haven't heard back from anybody that it arrived. Okay. And then one just went out. So there may actually, I think I might
Starting point is 00:07:16 bump it up to five. Okay. I think that's what I might do. All right. I don't know. I got to figure this out because it's really unsatisfying to send these special buttons out and then they get lost. It is unfortunate. So also Scott T, happy birthday. This is from Brenna, but it is also back on September 10th. We are a little bit late, but happy birthday and your policy. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Next. This is a different Dan from Chicago, parenthetically, also a trader. And I support this message. Thank you so much. You and I are policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. You're a trader, Dan. You're a trader, Dan. Next new wonk in the mix, Elliott from Melbourne, the real Melbourne in Australia, not that bullshit one in Florida that keeps on getting my packages.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Thank you so much. You're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And I believe it's Melbourne. Melbourne. Maybe. Maybe. Next. Bufa Palooza and burger flipping squatches. Thank you so much. You're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And early Alex Jones sounds like a man with a perpetual mouth full of mashed potatoes. Thank you so much. You're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Next. We have a technocrat, Jordan. We have a technocrat in the mix. This is this is a fairly special one. This is an old old buddy of mine. So thank you so much to Micah knows where Dan's dirty laundry truck secrets are buried. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone someone Sotomight sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Old old buddy of mine. One of his nicknames would actually dox him. So not going to but also goes by a sweet butter. He's been known as sweet butter on the streets. Sure. Sure. Sweet butter on the streets. Okay. He was one of the four people who lived in a house. They were all a year older than me. We all worked at the movie theater together and they lived at this house and I dropped out of high school. And so I was just over at their house all the time
Starting point is 00:09:23 getting drunk, having a blast, just freedom in an irresponsible way. Of course. Of course. And so one day I don't know exactly what it was. It might have been a party we had over at the house. It might have just been another night of me chucking booze. Sure. Sure. But I passed out on the front lawn and I guess because it's a residential neighborhood and people didn't want frowned upon frowned upon a lot of squares generally speaking. Yes. Proud to pot. So they put a tarp on me. They didn't want you to lower property values. Right. You can do it in one night. If a property value wear walks by while you're on the lawn sleeping. Uh-oh. Everybody loses a grand on their on their values. So I wake up the next morning on in under a tarp
Starting point is 00:10:09 to someone kicking me and a car horn honking and I open up the tarp and it's Micah's little brother. Sure. And his mom is in a van picking them up to like go to breakfast or something. Of course. And man, that was not my finest hour. Anyway, thank you, sweet butter. Appreciate it. If I if you do see a man underneath a tarp, your first thought is dead body. Right. Your first thought is dead body. And that raises a lot of a lot more property valuation questions in my mind. Not Micah's little brother. Nope. Decided to kick me. That's not a terrible idea if you were a dead body. It's not respectful. That's fair. Anyway, we start here on the 16th and Alex is not jumping straight into the Trump news because there is other news. So that's what I wanted to start.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Broadcast with today is that tomorrow's news today. I told you probably a air defense missile by that clip and come back just to show. We actually do our research, folks. We actually study a lot of things. We don't just sit up here and say things. I do make mistakes, but not on purpose. So Alex is obsessed with bragging about how he had knee jerk announced that the missile that had hit Poland was probably a surface to air missile missile defense from Ukraine. And now the signs are pointing to that being the case. And so he got something right accidentally and he is so excited by virtue of knee jerk defending anything Russia does. He may have inadvertently got it right. And so he plays the clip of himself saying this on a previous show.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Oh my God. Of course he does. It's over and over again. Totally nailed it. Nailed it. That's what's leading the show. Okay. I was right about I was potentially right about this is this is exactly like if he was in his office and he like just threw a ball of paper all the way across into a into a garbage can and nobody saw it, but it was recorded. So he's like, I'm just going to play this over. You guys see this? I nailed it right in the right in the bin. Good job, man. Good job. I'm proud of you. No, I did it. So now on to Trump. Okay. The big news and joining us is Roger Stone. I want to play several clips here and then go to Roger. This is Trump last night making the big announcement. He is running for 2024. We told you months ago that he had told people very close to the president
Starting point is 00:12:35 and very close to this show that indeed he was running. The only question was when so we are tomorrow's news today yet again. You're not vindicated. You said he was going to do it on the fourth of July. Strategic flexibility was roughly five months ago. Right. I mean, like that's not fair. No, that's not fair. You can't do that. Doesn't count. Oh, doesn't count negative points. And I think I think just about anybody like could have and did predict Trump was going to run again. Yeah. I think I think that's not like the wildest tomorrow's news today kind of shit, especially when you're so wrong about the he's set to announce. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is like predicting that it was a Ukraine anti-defense missile, but it was in the next war
Starting point is 00:13:22 that I got it. Now, it wasn't this war. Okay. But 10 years from now, it's the next war that I nailed that one. Right. Yeah. I think he could probably gain a little bit of like, haha, I wasn't far off if Trump announced on July 7th. Yeah. And we'll talk. Sure. So Alex playing some clips and here's one of them. And then Trump says we will take America back and we will put a stop to these electronic systems immediately demand voter ID, same day voting and only paper ballots. Here is the president announcing in his key statement. I am tonight announcing my candidacy for president of the United States. We will do whatever it takes to bring back honesty, confidence and trust in our elections to eliminate cheating. I will immediately demand voter ID,
Starting point is 00:14:26 same day voting and only paper ballots. So Alex plays a few clips of Trump's speech, but he doesn't play some of them that I think were really troubling. Interesting. One that I think he maybe should have commented on was when he called cities in America cesspools of blood. Sure. Sure. Cesspools of blood. I don't know if that even makes dramatic sense. He said that we're going to go to Mars based on Mars for sure. Why? It's happening. What? There was a period where he got lost in the term corridors of power. Sure. And he kept talking about how we're going to take the corridors back. He clearly was all scripted just like I want those corridors. Gotta have those corridors. But the most important thing I think that Alex needs to
Starting point is 00:15:15 rebut here or talk about is Trump went on a quite protracted rant about how you need to kill drug dealers. Sure. He was. What? He was saying that in China they have quick trials where they would catch a drug dealer and then have a quick trial and then that night they'd be executed. And that's what we've got to do here in America. And he even said, quote, it's the only way. What? Yes. 80% of the people I have ever met have dealt drugs at one point or another to me. They'd be all dead. Yeah. I think that's a little bit unhinged. I think it's a is that real? Well, I mean, like I would say almost, you know, a large portion of the country is leaning much, much more towards decriminalization. Right. More states are legalizing
Starting point is 00:16:09 recreational use of marijuana and Trump is like, no, fucking kill him. That is this is wild of all the things that I would have expected. I mean, it's, listen, far be it for me to not have my pulse on the, the modern voter, but I don't think you can go from paper ballots is the hallmark of my campaign and also state murder on a daily basis. Well, sure. I mean, it would be outrageous. The amount of murder you would be doing is so much murder. So Alex should have a principled opposition to this on that point. Less murder is so offensive to him to hear as a libertarian. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's one. And then two, Trump is talking about this as like something that he talked to she about. And like, this is something that China does well. And Alex should be offended
Starting point is 00:16:57 by the idea of taking policy decisions from communist China. Yeah, I'm wondering if conservatives are aware so far that from their tea party beginnings, they have conservative themselves all the way into thinking Sharia law is actually pretty great. As long as we don't call it that, we call it Christian law. Put a little bit of a different branding. And why not have a dictatorship and murder people all the time? Right? You want to, you want to dime sack real, real small government stuff here is, uh, uh, listen, you can't be, we got to kill him. We got to kill 40% of America right now. It's, I mean, look, that obviously was maybe Trump going a little off script. Uh, then his prepared remarks. Sure. I would hope. Who knows? Because
Starting point is 00:17:52 a lot of it was so boring because he's just reading like he's just reading a prepared thing. He obviously didn't write. Yeah. Um, and that part was deeply upsetting. And I think based on like Alex's response, especially like I question whether Alex watched the full hour speech, right? I imagine he might not have a question. Anybody in second, if he has, then I would say that the goal or the, the, you know, the move is just like, well, that's bad, but let's pretend he didn't say that. Yeah. Let's just like go. Let's just go around the side of that. Yeah. I feel like that seems to be the main move for just about everybody at this point. Yeah. Let's just pretend he didn't say anything. Let's just get out. Those really,
Starting point is 00:18:34 really troubling things didn't happen. So Alex, uh, now that Trump has announced has a feeling about this and I'll say this. I've been on the fence about Trump to Sanis because I see it as a civil war and a distraction, civil, but seeing all the neocons and the Democrats in the deep state and Ivanka and Jared come out against her own dad really makes me like Trump more and watching the entire media pile on really likes, really makes me like Trump more just reminding me how much the power structure absolutely hates his guts. That's, this is so annoying. This is so annoying. The more this boat runs into this iceberg, the more I think this Titanic is going to make it. I think if we keep ramming this iceberg a little bit harder, I know we're taking on
Starting point is 00:19:22 water right now, but I think we can push through. Everybody hates this guy and I got to say like him. I like that about it pushes him to the top of my list. His own family wishes murder on him puts him up my highest list. That's how you know he's good. So, uh, Roger is on, which is also a sign. You know, like if you're having Roger on for the response, that means you want pro Trump coverage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And, uh, Roger, not only thinks that the 2016 election they tried to steal the 2020 election was stolen. The 2022 midterm was stolen. Why not? But what, what, what, what, what about 1888? That's a good question. Obviously challenging history. Alex only once in our American history
Starting point is 00:20:10 has a president. Grover Cleveland was elected in 1885. In 1888, it was stolen from him in a disputed election where he clearly, by the way, got a majority, the popular vote. And then he came back. Are we caring about that now? 93. The energy in the room last night reminded me of 2015 and 2016. It was the old Trump, the old anti establishment Trump. Uh, he was very disciplined. He was very much on message. And that is not true. Uh, you ranted about killing drug dealers for a bit. Yeah, but you just say it. It was old Trump in both senses of the word. Sure. Um, yeah. So Grover Cleveland was robbed, man. I mean, I do recall he won the popular vote and there was some shady backroom dealing. But if it's important to remember, he won the popular vote. He did not
Starting point is 00:21:04 lose the popular vote in all of his elections and then was like, ah, I was robbed. Right. Yeah. If, if the standard of, uh, like winning an election is the popular vote, Hillary Clinton won in 2016. Republicans will never win again. Exactly. Yeah. It's all over. So that doesn't count in your mind. Yeah. So you shouldn't use that. You got to pretend that doesn't happen. Also, you had to go back 240 years or whatever. No, 140 years. It was not the most recent of elections. So, um, if you're still in the reconstruction era, it's been a tick. So Alex, uh, like, man, people hate Trump and I like it. I like it. Sure. I saw where Rupert Murdoch reportedly called Trump like he did six, seven years ago and said, if you continue to run, I'm not going to support you. I'm
Starting point is 00:21:50 going to support a Democrat. Well, I mean, he did that before and then flip flop back to Trump later. So good point. This is a feather in Trump's cap that he's got the establishment lined up against him and not good for DeSantis having them lined up for him. That does not bode well for DeSantis, even though I really like DeSantis. Okay. So in fairness, Rupert Murdoch hates Trump as a person and has for a long time before his 2016 run. Yeah. Trump was a big media figure and Murdoch is in the public publishing business, including tabloid ass magazine. So they weren't unfamiliar with each other at that point. Gradually, Jared Kushner convinced Murdoch to sit down and talk with Trump and this led to Murdoch realizing that Trump was actually running and that all signs pointed to
Starting point is 00:22:30 him being the inevitable Republican nominee. So he endorsed him. I'm sure he would have preferred a different primary candidate to have won the nomination, but I don't think he was going to back Hillary. Yeah. I think he would have just been like, I don't like this guy. Yeah. All right. Fine. He's running. Important, important to keep in mind as, uh, as people keep trying to throw narratives around at people long before anything even close to a presidential election has run is that, Hey, fuck all of these. Oh, they're arguing bullshit. At the end of the day, they're going to get in line behind racism. Let's calm it down, guys. Okay. I mean, 2016 should teach a lot of lessons about the, the primary and how, um, um, sort of humiliated
Starting point is 00:23:13 so many people were who were trying to take Trump out in the primary. And then they fell in line like the cowards and weaklings they are. Yeah. So, um, Alex is really just kind of trying to justify supporting Trump. Basically. I mean, that's the overall vibe you're getting here back to Trump and his announcement. I've said, look, start coming out more against the shots, start coming out and saying no mandates, which he's already done and really hammered stay away from children. And now more and more Trump's doing that. So he's moving in the right direction. Here he is last night. I will get Biden's radical left ideology out of our military. And I did. I did. And in the first day, they put it back. They say, is that how it
Starting point is 00:23:58 works? It was gone. We will abolish every Biden COVID mandate and rehire every patriot who was fired from our military with an apology and full back pay. Oh boy. What? Yeah. What are we talking about? We're talking about hiring a vaccine, uh, uh, denier folk who didn't want to get a vaccine. We're going to hire them back with a full back pay to the military. Right. I understand conservatives live in wacky doodle world and that's great. But I just didn't know that that was a thing that would get an applause. I wouldn't somebody be like, Hey, what about all of the other problems that we're facing? Oh, you're talking about like, uh, drug dealers living? Well, see now I was gone with a different policy thing again. Yeah. His announced policies
Starting point is 00:24:45 sound like an insane person's diary. No, you're not wrong. Okay. So one thing you, you're not getting here is a visual on Trump. No, I'm not. Thank God. So I'm going to allow a little bit of a, you know, there's a paint a picture for you. Now, let me add another good point. Trump looks great. Put that photo up from last night with Roger and his wife and Trump. Uh, you guys all look great, but man, Trump looks like he's lost 60 pounds or something. Dude looks good. I just fine. Fine. Dude looks good. Great. Great. Uh huh. Good. Looks presidential. 60 pounds down. Still don't care, but fine. He's plumping. Okay. He's plumping. Is he filling it up with blood? 10 bags of blood. Oh boy. No wonder. He's even
Starting point is 00:25:31 orangeer than usual. He's on his 10th bag of blood today. Oh, he's plumping for sure. Oh man. So Roger has some feelings about the house of representatives now that it looks like the, uh, the GOP is going to be in control. Okay. Uh, he has some dumb ideas. Okay. The caucus of vote in which uh, in Kevin McCarthy was selected over Andrew, Andrew Biggs is essentially meaningless. It does not make, uh, McCarthy speaker. The only vote that makes him speaker is the vote of the full house in early January. At that juncture, he has to have at least 218 votes to become speaker. Now, Congressman Matt Gates has said publicly that he has the votes to block that election. He doesn't need, uh, but a handful to block that election. Uh, and all eyes are going to be on
Starting point is 00:26:24 Matt Gates. Um, he is, uh, he's a pretty good politician. No, I mean, I agree. So why, why, why is Trump endorsing? And I really didn't like that last night, fawning all over Kevin McCarthy. Uh, I, I find that problematic myself. I've argued against it. I look, I can't explain Trump. He is a force of nature and sometimes he's wrong. That's the kind of guy you want in charge. Hey, you know what? I want somebody who won't listen to anybody and doesn't change his mind even if he's wrong. Uh, so Matt Gates will absolutely not become speaker of the house. And if he does try to pull a power play, he could fuck around and cause some really undesirable outcomes. The only way that this works is if he holds the party hostage. Yeah. If Gates has like
Starting point is 00:27:07 seven votes that commit to not flipping, no matter what, he could threaten to tank the GOP winning the speakership. In that situation, I guess he could try to force the rest of the GOP reps to get in line with him or let a Democrat be speaker, but I don't see that possibility happening. I think the best that you can do, and I mean, this is kind of just decent politics, is threatened to do this and then negotiate some kind of a concession with McCarthy, try and get maybe some positions in some committees and stuff. He has leverage, use it to get what he wants. Exactly. But you're not going to get to be the speaker. McCarthy is going to be the speaker. That is why Trump is being nice to him,
Starting point is 00:27:49 because they live in a reality. I would say that Matt Gates is probably smart enough to realize that if his profile goes up any higher, people are finally going to put him in jail where he belongs. I'm pretty sure he's a criminal of many different types. I think he probably strikes. He strikes me as the sort who would love to be speaker in that role. I think he would. I think he would. But the reality of these numbers just doesn't work for him. He would have to essentially and the role really of the majority leader or the speaker in party leadership is about corralling votes. It's about getting people on the same page. If you have seven people or whatever that you're holding the vote hostage for, it's going to be very difficult for you to take on
Starting point is 00:28:41 the leadership position of all of those people you've just pissed off and forced yourself to be in charge of. I know that Roger knows this and he's being a little bit dumb. No. It's wise to take a... I mean, hey, in any negotiating position, you start by saying, I would like 100% of what it is that we're going to go for. And they're like, how about we give you 10 and then you argue from there. You know, like Matt Gates said, I'm going to speak to the speaker of the house and they're like, instead, how about you get a nice chair? And he's like, I like a nice chair. You know, like that's how it works. Yeah. Yeah. He gets it. You'll end up with a committee position or something and everybody will move on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:23 So look, Roger has some harsh words for DeSantis. He is clearly now coming on to a more Trump position where he was kind of like, both sides. Alex as a, DeSantis is better about the vaccine's narrative. Sure. And Roger wants Alex to get off that. Okay. But to go back to the point you made at the very top, and I want to be very clear about this, his position on vaccinations is identical to that of Ron DeSantis. If I need to bring you the video of Ron advocating the shot and saying it will protect you from infection, I can do that. No, no, I remember Trump and DeSantis being, being wrong. It's just that it's just that DeSantis has been, been coming out against it more and put in that good surgeon general that I really like
Starting point is 00:30:12 trying to save kids. All I've been trying to do is see, I'm not a politician. I'm not trying to be part of a political system. I'm an issue person. And so I want Trump to really hurt these poison shots and save more people all forgiving for being bamboozled into it. So I'm simply operating on the issues. And I know you do as well, but you operate in a political area. I don't, Roger. All I'm saying is today, both of them oppose mandatory vaccinations. Both of them oppose vaccinations for those in the military. Both of them oppose the masking of our children. Their positions are identical. Rhetorically, you're right, the governor has been more aggressive about it. But at the end of the day, their positions are identical. It's interesting how
Starting point is 00:30:57 Alex is just like, I'm an issue guy. And my issue is I hate vaccines. Right. And if Trump will just do the thing that I want him to do, I'll write a story where he's fine. I'll come up with a way to like convince myself that it's all good because he's doing what I want him to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's about it. Cool. I do appreciate the I'm an issues guy. And my issues are if everyone including his family hates him, that makes me think he's a pretty good job, a good, pretty good guy for the job. I think that that's not an issue for me. That seems like that should be an issue. So Roger wants DeSantis to stay governor. I want him to continue the job he's doing as governor where in the last two years of his term, he's been very strong. He's 42 years old.
Starting point is 00:31:50 He's got plenty of time. I say yet again, if he wants to run, it's his prerogative. I think he clears the field. I'm not sure he can sustain a longer conversation. He's very good in a controlled environment. He's very controlled. He's very good when he controls of a microphone, but in a wide open free of fighting debate with a brawler like Donald Trump. You know, I think Trump has personality. He has he has presence. He's got some he often has a self deprecating humor. The governor is kind of charmless in that regard. Trump has like a lot of ways you could describe his humor, but self deprecating isn't one of them. No, no. He started his speech where he was announcing his candidacy with we are the greatest movement perhaps that has ever happened in the
Starting point is 00:32:43 greatest country on earth. Yeah, we are. We are self deprecating in a way you could read it that way because it's so narcissistic that you'd think, well, there's no way a reasonable reasonable human being would be anything but cleverly sarcastic about this absurd thing to say. Even even if he's operating in the realm of parody, I don't think it's still self deprecated. No, absolutely not. Also. Wow. I don't think that it would have been appropriate to say something like that about Ron DeSantis two days ago. I would say he can't handle himself except in a controlled environment. He's charisma. Yeah. I think what Roger just said there was Trump is going to make him mad. And then DeSantis is going to wind up dropping all the slurs that he doesn't say on the regular.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It's that kind of thing. Trump is going to be a dick to him. And then he's not going to know how to handle it. He's going to look like an idiot. He's going to look like a fucking idiot. Yeah. Although I will say I was I was fairly confident that that's how it would go and will go up until I read the Trump's insult is Ron DeSantis. Someone else wrote that. Oh, that's garbage sauce. That's garbage. So it's a first attempt. Yeah. It's bad. If that's what he's going to come with. I'm not worried about Ron DeSantis getting mad. I don't think I don't think we're in the throwing hands phase of this. Sure. This is still just opening. Right. Ron DeSantis. A little jab. A little jab. Little jab. Okay. I'll let you see how you respond. We'll see how it goes. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:20 So Alex not going to say who he's picking. Sure. Between Trump and DeSantis. We all know it's pretty fucking clear. We all know. I remember my gut and I'm not going to say which man I'm supporting. But I think I think overall Trump is the better choice. He enrages the system. They're totally scared of him and seeing the establishment get behind DeSantis makes my skin crawl. But I don't blame DeSantis for that. Okay. So I'm not going to say who I'm in favor of. But one guy I'm only going to say positive things about. And then the other one I'm going to say a negative thing about. Right. So you could decide. Right. But I'm not going to say who I am. I am hedging my bets in the least hedgeable way. I am going to bet it all 99% on
Starting point is 00:35:02 this one and then 1% on the other. So you know that I have not yet decided between the two. You know we call that we call that what strategic flexibility. I like it. Yeah. So Roger has a explanation for the midterms. Okay. Now we remember boats from North Korea. I recall that they were involved in 2020. Right. So Roger's got a really up his game here. No he does not. Oh no. I mean this is the Ron's DeSanctimony. The game is long. Gotcha. Whether we nominate former president Donald Trump or whether we nominate Governor DeSantis or who we nominate if we can't have free, fair, honest, transparent elections. What's just happened in Arizona is an abomination. The ballots that were tested the night before the election
Starting point is 00:35:55 are the correct 19 inches long. On election day the paper ballots that are sent to only Republican precincts are 20 inches long. The machines are specifically made not to accept them. In one case an election judge I spoke to said a person tried to get the tabulator to receive their ballot 15 times and it was rejected. Well it's rejected because the trays inside the tabulator are not made to take that paper. Now this wasn't done by accident. This was done woefully. So apparently the globalists know that they couldn't get away with election hacking fraud this time and that too many people were out looking for the ballot mules so they couldn't box stuff. You know that's just no good. So the only way they could think to steal the election was sending
Starting point is 00:36:47 ballots an inch too big to Republican polling places. Here's what I like about their terrible plans. Right. All right. One, the globalists have terrible plans because these people have terrible plans and no imagination. Right. Right. The thing about it is they're diminishing returns there. Their best idea is a bad plan. Well and they threw they wasted that two years ago. So now we're all the way down to bad plan number 55 and the globalist bad plan is at an inch. You know how obvious this would be to trace back like in terms of the production orders of like who made it an inch bigger. Absolutely. This is a terrible plan. The organization that would be required in order to do this would leave such a I mean if you pardon the expression a paper tray. It would be very
Starting point is 00:37:39 obvious. So I'm excited to see that investigation. Yeah. Good luck. Roger. So this is based on a theory that was published in the Gateway Pundit relying wholly on the expertise of one person a guy named Dan Sundin. At the end of this article in Gateway Pundit there's a hat tip to David and Aaron Clements who presumably brought this all to the attention of Jim Hoft's twin brother. David Clements is a New Mexico State University business school professor who's been suspended from his position because of vaccine and mask mandates that he was protesting. Sounds right. So he's going to be rehired with back pay. Of course. Any moment actually he was suspended with pay. So he's gotten to collect a salary while he's gone on tour of around the country appearing
Starting point is 00:38:21 at rallies about how the 2020 election was stolen among other various bright wing conspiracy topics. He's been on that reawaken America tour. Oh my God. Clements has been making interview videos on rumble about election fraud nonsense since 2020 and he's interviewed luminaries like Ron Watkins and naturally Dan Sundin. The two of them are associates in this election fraud stuff over the years. It's not like he's some unbiased expert who the Gateway Pundit. Sure. Sure. He's covering they're getting the band back together. I have no idea who Dan Sundin is other than that his resume is always written super vague on all of these websites. He is an expert. I know that. All right. I can tell you one thing about him and that he is not the same Dan Sundin who's on
Starting point is 00:39:05 the FBI's most wanted list for cyber crimes. Not the same one. The same guy because I watched a video interview with the guy from the election fraud conspiracy and he looks nothing like the FBI. Right. Right. Plastic surgery is what you're arguing here. No. I don't. I don't think. Well, I mean you could age hide in plain sight. Yes. Hide in plain sight. You know I'm I'm fairly convinced that it I'm 100 percent convinced it's not the same person. Of course it's not. But it is. It is like a unique enough name that I was pretty. Yeah. Wait a second. Yeah. It is. It is. I have not heard many Dan Sundin's before and you both in the field of like technology. Yeah. Yeah. That's a little odd. But yeah. Not this not the criminal. All right. Anyway Alex was right about this this
Starting point is 00:39:53 missile thing. And so Roger needs to congratulate him about it. Alex this is really quite extraordinary. Look I got up late today because I was up celebrating the historic announcement of Donald Trump. And therefore when I went to bed I heard that Russian missiles had attacked Poland. Then when I came on your broadcast I saw you laying out the truth. Then I went online figuring that well everybody else will probably be saying the same thing. Alex is saying you know what Alex nobody other than info wars by and large is reporting the truth. This underlines the importance of info wars and why they are so desperate to take you down. This underlies the importance of info wars and why I so value this platform and and and this forum because I know whenever there is a concerted
Starting point is 00:40:48 effort at propaganda regarding regardless what the issue whether it's Donald Trump or whether it's Governor DeSantis or whether it's the situation in Ukraine or whether it's what the red Chinese are up to the the safest place to go to find out what is really going on and it's put out there fearlessly and with the knowledge that we're going to be attacked as conspiracy theorists and nut jobs and extremists and this one always makes me laugh white supremacists all of which is false is info wars. This is such bullshit like these assholes pat themselves on the back so hard every time one of the random denials they make accidentally happens to end up being accurate. Alex did say that he thought the missile that hit Poland was a surface to air missile from Ukraine
Starting point is 00:41:38 and it's now appearing that that is the case but it's so dishonest for him to pretend he was the only person talking about this. A newsweek article from a day before this episode was recorded said quote the Associated Press initially cited an unnamed senior US intelligence confirming that Russia was indeed behind the cross-border strike. Hours later the same outlet cited three US officials who said preliminary assessments suggest the missile was fired by Ukrainian forces in an attempt to intercept an incoming Russian missile. On the same day as this episode Business Insider published an article including quote a statement from the office of Poland's president said it was highly probable that Ukraine had launched the surface to air missile in response to the Russian barrage
Starting point is 00:42:24 and that quote we have no evidence at the moment that the Russian-made S-300 missile was fired by Russian forces. Sure there were a lot of people some random people on Twitter and some in official positions who were jumping the gun to blame Russia that is fair enough but what Alex and Roger are doing is just as bad as any of those people. They're manufacturing a fake consensus that they stand in opposition to. They're pretending that everybody in the media everyone in government all the power establishment were pushing the message that Russia did this on purpose and that article five should be invoked and that it was only infowars the wrongly maligned but always right truth tellers who had the courage to stand up and say that it looks like it could be a surface
Starting point is 00:43:06 to air missile. This is an illusion they weren't the only ones to voice this kind of concern and this possibility this is a white supremacist outlet and they're constantly wrong about almost everything. Alex didn't think Putin was going to try and invade past the Donbass and said that Zelensky was a double agent working for Putin. He said that Russia had paid off the Ukrainian army so the war was only going to last a few days. He said that Putin was going to probably nuke us tomorrow for like the last two months. Alex is full of shit but every now and again one of the things that he says out of a knee jerk defiance accidentally happens to end up looking accurate and you can tell how rare it is by how excited he gets and how often he needs to bring these
Starting point is 00:43:48 things up. He's played this clip of him saying the missile was a surface to air missile three times on this episode I believe and I think and think about every time he has to answer for how he's constantly wrong about everything he just yells justy small it and thinks like okay great. Alex makes a gigantic deal out of these rare instances and pretends the thousands of times he's been wrong never happened because this has the effect of subtly tricking the audience into thinking that he's right way more frequently than he actually is. It's a pretty simple and very intentional manipulation tactic and I guess it works. Yeah the the weird thing is this is probably the one spot where you could really kind of dig in with a conspiracy theory that just that just kind
Starting point is 00:44:31 of that kind of works either either way you know like if you're saying to me that the conspiracy theory is all the governments involved in this except for the Ukrainian government have kind of correctly realized that if it is Russian's missiles they did fire them and even if it was an accident it did cross over into Poland that's a real big problem right and that maybe if it's an accident maybe we all just say oh right Ukraine made the accident and then it's less of a problem it's still a problem but it's not the same problem now is it now if that we if we find out 60 years later they do the investigation and that's true fine that's great it's just why are you saying that you got this part right this is a boring part I understand I understand what you're saying
Starting point is 00:45:21 it's a boring narrative Alex's conspiracy should be what you're saying exactly he should be elevating his conspiracy but he can't because that would require him to say that Russia did do it right but I mean then he also gets to say everybody on the in the west is lying I mean it's so confusing right but they're lying right in a way that is advantageous to Russia sure his angle would be that Russia did actually attack a NATO country well yeah that's true I think I think he would have some problems spinning this that would be that would be tough to fit in his overall worldview but that is right there you know it's not far off I mean if you're if you're talking about just like writing a conspiracy theory you're you're right it is it does have more like intriguing
Starting point is 00:46:06 yarns to pull yeah or threads to pull as yeah yeah so you gotta support info wars we know this and there's a reason and it's he owes a billion and a half dollars well that's the real reason right but there's a storytelling reason to okay so the media makes fun of Roger Stone selling t-shirts and signed stones yep well we go to the people it's a badge of honor it's a badge of how we're grassroots that we find ourselves with books and films and high quality supplements and things that you need and so please you're not going to get the information we're about to cover next hour anywhere else the euthanasia of children has now begun sorry what the ones in places like Canada what already starting here what two powerful special reports on that
Starting point is 00:46:53 even worse than I was reporting on yesterday I'm gonna start the next hour on that oh boy so yeah they're euthanizing children and that's why you've got to support info wars wow so just sort of a content warning I guess I don't think anything is too severe but there's gonna be a lot of conversation about like assisted suicide in the in the coming clips so you know I know that some people maybe have some feelings but that's so just before warrant that's gonna be a much like raptors it will factor heavily into this conversation yeah so here's you know Alex we always love it when he tells us about how we belong to the city we do belong to sit but sometimes there's other songs that he rants over we can belong to many places and if I'm if I'm like a judge I'm given
Starting point is 00:47:42 this one a 4.7 oh at a tent right to be in this position and persecuted by the most evil forces in the history of this planet their covert operations have now been drawn out in the open the process of them trying to break us with the process of their downfall and destruction it has been foretold and now we see it all beginning to manifest because the mind of man is made in the image of God but we envision over time you're able to realize that's why they feed us ugliness and death and destruction and tell us we're trash so we manifest the dystopic system that Hollywood spreads but we will manifest the blueprint that God has given us and our stairway you heaven all right I want to do this some stations don't carry this segment
Starting point is 00:48:41 and this is some bigness so I'm gonna come back in with the latest developments on the next big rollout they've been beta testing and that is forced government intimidated social credit score she'll assign oh wow yeah yo I think I mostly gave it a 4.7 because I think that song's all right yeah I mean there's no passion and he doesn't have the timing right at the beginning you know he's talking over the wrong parts it's and they're just you know there's just songs that have it yeah there's just an it to the you belong to the city that makes it perfect for yelling nonsense nothing against that song I think that song it I don't know what it is but it sounds like something I could definitely have on in the background I'm not entirely sure it doesn't have it no
Starting point is 00:49:27 but I think here I've started to crack the code I think sure I think Alex really just like saying and now he just he likes it who hasn't spent a couple of days getting into the La Fontaine for a little too long come on it has been foretold in such a in a world such a dork it is you know you can't in a world so here we go Alex gets down to business and cites these two stories that he has regarding assisted suicide sure that he is now claiming is like the killing children euthanizing children right and government social credit score blah blah blah yeah put them both together yeah yeah there are two reports that tie in to all of this we're going to be getting to canadian government preparing to euthanize children without parental consent it's one of the reports
Starting point is 00:50:23 and then globalists push mass suicide so these are the two stories that Alex is operating off of and I guess they prove that the government is trying to force people into being euthanized sure the first headline that he read is you know it's about this canadian law and it's just the title of a gray grease video that was cribbing mostly from a tucker carlson segment and that segment itself is reporting on an article that was posted on Barry weiss's substack all of this just boils down to the canadian parliament passing a revision to their medical assistance in dying legislation also known as their made ma id legislation sure about who is eligible to receive that care this revision was passed in march 2021 but it doesn't take effect until next year in that
Starting point is 00:51:09 revision they repealed the requirement that the patient's natural death was quote reasonably foreseeable which is to say that they opened up this kind of care to patients who were not immediately terminal but might be living in a terrible amount of pain that is untreatable right right right the revision also specified quote that persons whose sole underlying medical condition is mental illness are not eligible for medical assistance in dying that is something that is obscured by tucker's coverage and then now alex is just completely lying about right even if you take everything that tucker says in his report as truth the person who he's basing his entire story on is 23 years old so this is not a child yeah the headline quote globalists push
Starting point is 00:51:54 mass suicide is just a video that was posted on bandod video it's a john bound report just a lot of it is covering similar territory and some of alex you know talking about at the globalist want to kill everyone yeah yeah the second headline is not even worth paying attention to but the first one does bring up a fairly important conversation which is these sticky issues around assisted end of life care obviously i do support access to this kind of care but there are cases where things can be a little bit complicated i do think that these are things that people should be talking about but the perspectives of folks like uh tucker and alex are worthless they aren't dealing with the issues as they actually exist they're creating a fake version of the issue to use as a prop to attack
Starting point is 00:52:39 their political enemies and keep their audiences in fear about how they're going to force your kids to be euthanized or whatever and and in reality when we get to this there is going to be uh i'm going to play a little bit of the gray grease report the it is kind of a weird situation that actually i have a suggested solution to and alex and his whole crew don't so anyway here's the intro the alex gives to the gray grease report all right big pharma owned by the big banks to the un the wf is promoting government extermination of the mentally ill and the physically disabled calling it liberal and trendy bill gates death panels on steroids here is a critical gray grease report and i'll give you the rest of the story first of all i can't believe that alex
Starting point is 00:53:29 doesn't call these rhesus pieces it's such a fucking missed opportunity you can't do it yes i can no you'd get a cease and desist no it happened instantly it's a piece it's a news piece no you'd get a cease and desist from rhesus himself not even the company a rhesus ceases yeah you should watch out for his rhesus ceases no they come on rhesus pieces would be so good i don't think they'd get sued yeah um come on when he goes to church he's always talking about rhesus jesus anyway this is a completely inaccurate description of this report or the entire underlying story of course but here is the beginning of the report the film soylent green was made in 1973 and set in a dystopian world in the year 2022 where the government is seriously feeding the people
Starting point is 00:54:25 food it was made of people people the most pleasant experience spoiler is state assisted suicide while government run media pushes the idea of cannibalism government assisted suicide is officially now a thing in 2022 before co officially could always now a modern medicine to keep you alive what so long as you had the money or insurance to pay for it but these days the hospitals seem more likely to liquidate you and in canada they will help you kill yourself even if you don't really want to die amir farsud has applied for medically assisted dying known as made he lives in constant agony due to a back injury but has started the process for end of life because his rooming house is up for sale and he can't find anywhere else to live that he can afford
Starting point is 00:55:15 he barely survives on ontario disability support payments which are just over 1200 dollars a month he doesn't want to die but being homeless is not an option i know in my present health condition i wouldn't survive it anyway there is no answer in alex's world for this problem other than to let farsud die on the street yeah they would be opposed to the government paying for his housing they would be opposed to the government providing with free health care so what's the actual answer here i'm not saying that farsud should go to assisted suicide because of the circumstances like this but i think that this situation does highlight a really sticky issue where the reality of what he's living through brings into focus how cruel the system itself
Starting point is 00:55:56 actually is this video from the canadian news is about a month old and by the point reese is making this video farsud had actually launched a successful go fund me and he'd raised 60 000 dollars to secure his housing and he'd gone public that he no longer is considering medically assisted death right farsud has a really good perspective on the ethical issue about how his poverty was driving his thinking from a toronto city news article quote he said government should be focusing on fixing the issues causing poverty rather than the moral ramifications of those in poverty seeking made quote i think the proper solution is to not have that problem is to alleviate what's causing the problem if society is concerned about people like me and like the
Starting point is 00:56:42 half million other people on odsp in poverty then bring them out of poverty that's the obvious solution if they were out of poverty and they had a roof over their head and food in their mouths i guarantee you made wouldn't be a consideration the whole debate would become superfluous i'm certain that info wars will not follow up on the story and cover this comment from farsud because they aren't interested in this perspective they want to use him as a prop to build up a fraudulent argument that the government is trying to force people to kill themselves but they'd honestly be pretty fine with letting him die on the street especially if they knew like that they could call him a communist for his ideas or whatever you know like this but this is a little bit of a difficult
Starting point is 00:57:25 kind of thing like he has an underlying chronic health condition that is miserable for him to live with without proper care and a place to live yeah and his poverty is threatening access to that medical care and the place to live it obviously the solution isn't well medically just a suicide but it highlights how someone in that situation would look at that as like well i'm gonna die on the street anyway yeah you know like that's that's stark the clear the clear point is almost kind of too simple in so far as like what is the point of the government of all of us together if we can't even basic get the simple maslow's hierarchy of needs handled you know and if you're saying that i can't have access to food water or shelter consistently or or guaranteed if i can't have
Starting point is 00:58:22 guaranteed access to those then death is borderline a lateral move or at the very least i'm living right next to it every single day of my life that's what he's expressing really what you're saying is whoa whoa whoa whoa we want god to kill you we don't want you to have control over anything yeah and i just i think that beyond this report being embarrassingly produced it doesn't it doesn't really touch on what the real issue is here or what the the subject of this story's perspective is yeah and i think that that is dishonest it's disingenuous yeah it's exploiting people's discomfort with death it's using that same emotional trigger like they do with lgbtq or or any number of those things that allows you to override your even ability to think
Starting point is 00:59:17 empathically well and and really when you break this down this amir farsud story is about somebody who is uh facing the prospect of living on the street with a chronic condition that causes severe pain and and all this and because of that he's considering end of life medical assisted death right right that is the story it's about the poverty driving this yeah with the underlying medical condition of course it's not just his poverty right it's being reported on info wars as an instance of the government wanting to kill you yeah and that's not correct no that is exploiting this person's pain because quite frankly if presented accurately the audience would come to the conclusion too easily that the answer is the opposite of alex's
Starting point is 01:00:14 politics yeah i mean well the answer is in in a certain sense the government is killing him slowly and that's why he's considering this that's the point is that if you're saying that the government is doing their job well right now that is going to lead to this man's death you have sent him to death and you've sent him to pain as he waits for it so there's more more to this report of greg's analysis uh i already did the rhesus pieces joke yeah according to the canadian government they are getting several requests for suicide from children who they refer to you as mature miners and they are seeking to amend the laws so that these children can be euthanized without their parents consent there are posts on social media that suggest this might be true
Starting point is 01:01:04 which shouldn't surprise anyone it should really concern any of rhesus viewers that he seems to be citing the canadian government but also saying that posts on social media seem to indicate that this is true like that's not good and it should tell you that greg did zero research on this subject past looking at some social media posts he saw some posts on social media it may be one of a mention the government who so here are some things that you need to keep in mind assisted dying for children has been legal in the netherland since 2002 and in the intervening 13 years seven children apprised themselves of that care belga made the this kind of medical care legal in 2014 and three children sought that care between 2016 and 2017 it's something that has a precedent and other
Starting point is 01:01:46 countries experience tells us that it's something that's used by people including children who have severe medical conditions that are not treatable and cause a great deal of suffering mature minor is a term that exists in canadian and american law already it's not something that's being used specifically in this case which is how greg is definitely trying to make it sound sure the council of canadian academies did a study and their conclusion was that the law already exists that mature minors can make medical decisions for themselves that involve informed consent and that there isn't really a compelling reason that this should be any different when it comes to medically assisted death yeah there isn't something that makes this a different case from other
Starting point is 01:02:28 informed consent requirements surrounding mature minors right the only thing that makes it different is your discomfort with death you know scientifically or medical or whatever yeah yeah of course but that's what i'm saying the possibility in your mind that maybe we will find a cure or something you know sure it's just the cold hard logic doesn't give you an excuse to be like ah but this is different just because i feel away so the organization dying with dignity has suggested some safeguard where informed consent from a parent or guardian would be required for patients aged 12 to 15 and consultation with a parent or guardian would be required for people aged 16 and 17 yeah which seems like i mean it's not going without the parents consent even for these mature minors
Starting point is 01:03:13 sure who have the ability to recognize consent right instead in terms of their medical decisions you know even if you're 16 or 17 you'd still require consultation with a parent right or guardian yeah no i mean the numbers themselves have already made something really clear which is like if it's been available since 2002 or 2004 or whatever and in the intervening time a total of seven people from the Netherlands there's not many people there so the population's like 30 so they've lost 40 percent of their population right right right right in the entire next generation exactly they got to start all over uh no yeah it is it is a very small yeah number of people and i think i think it is something that we can trust people and you know as somebody who struggled
Starting point is 01:04:04 with uh suicidal ideation and and of course uh the the attempts they're in it is it is like you can trust people to want to live you know there are times when you don't but at the end of the day if you're if you have to wait a month you you're gonna find a reason to to live you want to live you just want to you know and and honestly like the the circumstances that these uh children and their parents are in um are so difficult to imagine yeah and i don't know um i don't think that the government certainly should ever be like hey you should kill your kid totally um and i don't think that is happening i don't think they've ever done that ever one time no and and i also don't think that if a parent and a doctor and the child are all kind of of the mind of like this suffering is
Starting point is 01:05:00 never going to end yeah it's so hard for the like the child doesn't want to continue suffering yeah yeah yeah i don't feel like the government really it seems very cruel to not allow all options no there should be a i mean i absolutely support a fuck this law you know it's a hard uh complicated and emotionally heavy subject and i get why people have strong emotional reactions around these kinds of issues but from the bottom of my heart i have to say and continue to stress that alex and infor's contribution to this conversation is worthless and counterproductive yep they aren't even living in reality and i don't i i just think they should shut the fuck up yeah i know it's not helping there's so many things where it is like of of all that just stay out of this you know like
Starting point is 01:05:51 i'm mad at them for all of just about everything well right right but i'm mad at them for all of their bullshit but then sometimes they just go places where it's like just just fucking stay away from this i just get away i think it's different for you and me probably the things that they have that reaction to sure but i i think that i find it more offensive when there is a point of against the the maybe everybody should have free access to end of you know medically assisted death you know like that is somewhere where there is conversation that you know is is relevant right and then screwing that up yeah they're they're making that conversation much more difficult to have right in a sane and rational world right uh and i think that hurts the people who um are
Starting point is 01:06:44 most hurt already yeah you should be i mean the reasonable conversation includes empathy for the people that this is happening to uh themselves dealing with all this stuff and instead it's people arguing about the government trying to kill you yep so here's the last clip from greg's report this is fucking stupid and the motive for helping canadians kill themselves is allegedly to save the government money they have saved allegedly million dollars so i mean that's like four missiles flying to ukraine the government has infinite money for refugees and for you know foreign aid and for you know democrat campaigns and for waging war in ukraine but no money to keep people alive that's too expensive this is the plan how they're gonna save money
Starting point is 01:07:28 sure they're gonna welcome in a couple million foreigners every year put them on the free healthcare ticket what average canadians sorry sorry it's time to suicide it's time for death after 6465 individuals committed suicide with the help of maid medical assistance in dying the canadian government saved 86.9 million dollars about 13 thousand dollars per person that's what an individual's life is worth today in canada what economists running that's what you got that the savings from maid are so far negligible but the suicide program should continue what don't cost that much i mean we could really be be ramping this up maybe you could have people pay tickets like maybe maybe this is a solution maybe in canada you pay like 10 000 bucks and you get to kill
Starting point is 01:08:27 somebody this is the predictable outcome of this is the predictable unbelievable totally totally predictable that's exactly what i was thinking also harrison's little joke there at the end is just basically like an old chris rock bit yeah like the stabbing chair yeah isn't that chris rock i think it was anyway the only evidence that's being provided here that the government of canada is motivated by saving money is harrison smith another info wars employee saying so this is not good reporting in reality the number that harrison is citing comes from an october 2020 report titled quote cost estimate for bill c7 medical assistance in dying it was conducted by the parliamentary budget officer and it was prompted by the request of an unnamed senator they looked at numbers from
Starting point is 01:09:11 the netherlands and belgium as guides and found that it would be about 90 million in medical expenses would be saved by this bill well basically what they're both citing greg and harrison okay however it's very clear this report when it says quote many studies have shown that health care costs in the last year of life are disproportionately high representing between 10 and 20 percent of total health care costs despite these patients representing about one percent of the population nevertheless this report should in no way be interpreted as suggesting that made can be used to reduce health care costs yeah of course this is how harrison is interpreting the report and then greg is using harrison's fraudulent interpretation to suggest that the canadian
Starting point is 01:09:55 government is motivated by financial considerations to offer assisted dying care this is bullshit yeah the actual report that harrison is citing includes this part that he conveniently ignored quote to conclude expanding access to maid will result in a net reduction in health care costs for the provincial governments however this reduction represents a negligible portion of the health care budgets of the provinces dr tanu saputo wrote in 2017 we should strive to save on suffering and invest more in its reduction which may in turn reduce requests for medical aid and dying info wars and everyone who work there are a raft of liars their arguments suck they just make most of what they're saying up and the rest is based on them abusing primary sources
Starting point is 01:10:42 and misrepresenting them and the solution to the problem they're pretending to be so upset about is the thing that they entirely don't support which is more government spending on social welfare programs this is just a dead end of them complaining about something they don't care about to begin with yeah yeah i mean he even says that the government says it's negligible it's it's almost like in the report the guys are like why are you making me do this i don't want to do the cost budget analysis for assistance what why did i wake up today and have to do the cost budget analysis for assisted suicide and harrison's like his whole thing is like oh they have all this money to send things to ukraine but not to keep people up oh so you want the government to spend i mean yeah
Starting point is 01:11:25 yeah is that what do you want in your set of priorities the federal government uh the you're just a bunch of fucking children stop it stop it just tell me if you if what you want is what you want then say it and back it up and then whenever you find out you're a fucking idiot say i'm sorry for being an idiot oh they have plenty of money for this thing i don't want when they don't do this thing i don't want all right oh my god good argument so alex finally gets to calls he said at the beginning of this episode i'm going to take all these calls about trump because we got to find out what the temperature gotta do polling right yeah informal anecdotal yeah so here's the first caller i gotta say my my heart is troubled right now with this whole trump thing alex um we need to
Starting point is 01:12:10 have i'd like to have a real debate on on donald trump because this subject in particular is really really bothering me i'll tell you what you got it you got it and john don't forget john don't forget put him on hold get his name and number we will do how many guests do i have tomorrow let me check this make sure i'm not gonna say this wrong got a bunch of guests i'm not sure but we'll do i think i already meant to do this we'll do at least two hours of calls on is trump good or do people support trump should we support trump because i have mixed feelings as well okay and i appreciate you get charles back on tomorrow that's what you're supposed to be doing today that's what you said you're gonna do today why are you doing
Starting point is 01:12:52 tomorrow unreal uh look uh this guy wants to have a debate i think i'm gonna punt punt pass but the whole thing is supposed to be taking calls what you think about trump and his announcement that he's gonna run wow he doesn't want to hear it so ridiculous so anyway he gets another call okay trint and lost vegas novada go ahead trint thanks for calling what's going on man a big time supporter i don't know i just want to know uh how in the world are you even considering throwing your weight behind trump when there's how many children are being stacked up in bodies old people stacked up more and more are maimed every day from these shots and you say that he's backing off from these shots yet when i watched that full thin interview or podcast he said there was his greatest
Starting point is 01:13:39 achievement of his administration oh that was that was like six months ago but listen i don't think trump's perfect the sanis was for the shots at first too i'm just glad he's backing off of him what so do you think the sanis is better being back by the old deep state no i i think i think we need to get a whole brand new face up in there i think all of them need to be charged with the ricoag trees in and hung on live television bold or populist person i mean maybe ran far but still he's been in there for how long he's still part of the problem we've gotten here by no no i agree with you i agree with you we should draft hang everybody we should get ran but i'm having flashbacks yep this is so annoying we're just we're just never gonna change oh yeah maybe ran
Starting point is 01:14:30 paul would be a great choice yeah let's do that again let's run it again everybody from the top yeah so this caller actually has a good point in terms of remembering alex's rhetoric yeah it's weird whenever you remember what alex has said and then speak it back to him he goes oh that makes me feel uncomfortable buddy how can you possibly be in favor of this person who has murdered a million children or whatever stacking up millions of bodies with the poisonous shot that he's not listen i have some problems with him right he stacks up a lot of it listen he stacks up a lot of bodies sure sure but who is going to trigger the lips it's true desantis has no charisma nope so alex remembers that he made an ultimatum to trump about the vaccines he did do that i mean
Starting point is 01:15:19 we still can't vote for a guy that's not being open about these children being made from these shots hey i put the ultimate amount of trump i put the ultimate amount yeah you're absolutely right how'd that go that's why i'm very very torn about the situation you shouldn't be this is actually this is an argument for you being less torn about it because like if you put the ultimate amount trump didn't care that should tell you that you have no uh purchase here yeah you he doesn't give a shit yeah yeah look i made the ultimatum he didn't listen and so i uh um not gonna stick to my end of the ultimatum at all right why would i do that listen if there's one ultimatum that i think of when i think of my ultimatums i think of that time obama gave that
Starting point is 01:16:04 ultimatum and you know how that worked so he has another caller and uh god this is just annoying you crunch the numbers trump has so many hardcore supporters he's the way to go i'm hoping he comes around with the vaccine i'm hoping he surrounds himself with a roger stone uh steve bannon and uh mgt and the rest of them hopefully he'll come around but in the meantime we have to get behind trump no one else is the fact that isn't running he didn't say he was running so who else are we gonna vote for for those people to have a problem with trump they're gonna have to see that trump will come around we got the numbers we gotta win this that's the thing i'll promise you this and the earlier caller that raised all this we're not gonna screen your calls and you're
Starting point is 01:16:54 gonna have a place to voice your opinion of millions of people about what you think and tomorrow i'm gonna open the phones up for multiple hours on this one topic all right so we're gonna do it tomorrow yep the first caller didn't raise this issue no alex did he wanted to take calls on this subject you know and now i don't know that was in the past we'll talk about tomorrow you know when you live in the moment a lot of people don't really recognize what it means to live in the moment which is to forget everything that you said earlier and put it off till tomorrow and blame it on other people if you live in the moment tomorrow does not exist nope so alex has a guest on sure instead of dealing with his callers feelings about trump yeah yeah so uh this guy who now they there's only a
Starting point is 01:17:37 few people out there that expose the new world order at a greater level than i did before i did it's not about the credit but it's about understanding who was awake first so we can understand who has the discernment and it was steve quail and david i both great minds turds punch bowls and both living legends and yeah so we got steve quail on we got legendary turds now he has risen to the top of the pile of info wars steve's man steve kersh has seemed to fade into his sub-stack background steve pacanik is still i gotta be honest i i need proof of life on steve yeah i don't think i've like i went and i tried to find some youtube videos like his channel seems dormant uh oh i don't know oh no steve's on the wind maybe he's got some health issues i don't know maybe he's uh happy to
Starting point is 01:18:22 not get be involved in this bullshit man you know what or maybe he's just thankful that he didn't get subpoenaed in the info wars trial because he has so much to do with the sandy hooks he really does have a lot to do with it his his uh getting away scott free on this is pretty insane well i mean i think the statute of limitations might have helped him a bit man you know it is it is interesting to think now that i've if steve does have health problems he i think much like uh our our boy is just going to we're going to be the only people who recognize his passing like like nary nichols yeah with nichols it's going to be we're the same two people we're going to be like i think for steven alex is going to forget he was alive i think alex brought up that leary nichols died
Starting point is 01:19:07 like a couple weeks after in passing yeah yeah exactly we're the only people are going to throw out an r.i.p why are you hanging out with people like that we all know it yeah so anyway um steve quail uh has some interesting thoughts and by interesting i mean incredibly boring and unhinged people are looking for a political solution to a spiritual problem it's my contention that obviously united states has declared the democrats specifically and the republican whores have declared war on god they've declared war on everything that made our country great the destruction of the family the destruction of of a of a grateful nation versus the one that's basically we're in a rape pillage and plunder the united states has been taken under
Starting point is 01:19:55 hey look at that right wow yeah wow weird to think of the united states the united states dad raping and pillaging and plundering who could unthinkable who would have imagined now i gotta say it's fun to say that everybody who you don't like has declared war on god that is fun uh that is just a great thing to do doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room in terms of negotiation or reconciliation or compromise all that stuff seems to be kind of difficult impossible well if you declare war on god god himself is usually pretty stringent about that yep he doesn't like a war i think this is dumb but i do appreciate the rhyming and i think that that steve quail low key is a little bit of a fanciful gentleman who likes word play okay i'm being told and this is
Starting point is 01:20:45 exclusive to your your podcast day broadcast today is the fact that they're already setting up another vehicle another crypto and i call them kleptocurrency somebody make that name up but alec you're watching the cryptocurrencies turn into kryptonite for the financial system yeah i think he's having fun that is that is the woke insurance of crypto jokes right there i think he likes word play and i appreciate it he could write a children's book if he wasn't nuts i call it klepto i call not lost vegas i call it lost wages dan ah come on now because you you take yeah yeah yep so steve rambles taxachusetts dan you get it because higher taxes yeah it's good stuff it's good stuff so steve rambles a bit uh-huh he has a he has a penchant for that sure
Starting point is 01:21:41 ladies and gentlemen the great reset just get rid of that bravo seara it's the great destruction it's the total destruction we're like the great sunset because again i want to say this alec cop 27 in egypt people don't understand this but they rewrote the ten commandments you know they say i think they could do a better job than god making literally the creation they're god worshiping the creation but in the meantime they're doing stuff behind the the uh site of the common man by the way 400 private jets you know 400 private jets going to mount sinai by the way the one they all right calm it wasn't the real one the real mount sinai is in saudi arabia but where they went to have fudge the details i was i'm being told i don't think anybody said this
Starting point is 01:22:29 publicly but i'm being told by people that know that interface of that world that they've already decided who the coming world leader is who him hidden but this is a better thing it's a christ that prince charles now king charles referred to at that global summit so it's amazing gentlemen all of this the politicus distracticus isn't that the definition of insanity what okay so we have the cop uh they rewrote the at the climate conference by the way the climate conference rewrote the ten commandments rewrote the ten commandments uh 400 private jets flew to mount sinai but it's a fake mount sinai i feel like that was tangential at best there's a lot of tangents yeah i mean if if you bring up the point that there are 400 private jets there
Starting point is 01:23:20 fuck yeah man of course it's a very stupid thing to do if you're doing a climate conference looks real dumb right yeah no i don't disagree um but that's not what we're talking about we're talking about the spiritual dimension of sinai there's a war on god and the new ten commandments i thought that the new ten commandments was the george guide stones but then i guess someone blew them up blew them up yeah and now we just gotta those are the old ten commandments right the old the old new ten commandments right that is the new new the new new yes correct so anyway steve taxachusetts dad mm-hmm you should write children's this is what the question i get asked more than any other one how is it that the whole world goes into lockdown at the same point how is
Starting point is 01:24:05 it that the economy shut down at the same point and the answer to that is simple lucifer this is a world government test of power so it's not just info wars it's not just money wars the key is spirit wars it is spirit wars and again you know people are having all types of interactions with cryptids strange creatures sure uh everything from incubus succubus uh all the veils being ripped alex a lot of cryptids a lot of cryptids a lot of cryptids i call them kleptids because they steal so much dad ah boy yep yep this is the state of affairs that we find ourselves in steve quail warning us about chupacabras there's just there's just nothing that is less you you can say it for anything but a lot of people come up to me and ask me all the time
Starting point is 01:24:59 how is it how is it that gas prices all around the world can be so high at the same time and i say lucifer right i mean it's dumb because people went like first of all countries didn't go into lockdown all at the same time of course there was there was some difference but you know you could say all around the same time and sure i mean it's because there was a global that's how pandemics work yeah i think that that is not lucifer it's pretty easily explainable in terms of just sort of real world conditions non luciferian also though they brought up spirit wars there true and i want to just remind everyone that mind wars and spirit wars were the two catchphrase ideas from reset wars that alex is just abandoned and not really expanded upon after he released the culmination
Starting point is 01:25:43 of his life's work most important thing he's ever done which flopped and was really just a contract thing that he did for a weirdo get rich quick hypnotist fellow that alex hasn't mentioned since he did a photo shoot in a creek so i feel like he's contributed quite a bit to us the most important look at me in a creek so cryptids are out there cryptids are in play the squash the squash is in play yeah yep the what other cryptids do you like i know the moth man sure cryptid i was i was you know as much as i love the squash i was always a i was always a the the uh mr mix oplix no no no what's the abomination not abomination what's the the abominable snowman yes yes the yeti's yeti's
Starting point is 01:26:30 are my jam yeti's were always my jam okay so you're just it's just a different environment it's a different squash yeah it's a it's a different flavor of squash it's a different evolution of the pokemon if you were sure yeah sure all right how about you i don't like cryptids much you don't like cryptids no i don't find them that interesting not a Loch Ness guy what are you what are you like nessie you like nessie yeah okay good but that's just because i feel like nessie's not coming out of the water no there's a kinship between the two of you well i have a long standing respect for things that are in the water sure sure that's a different domain that's a different domain whatever you all are doing over there i respect you right right it's not for me keep it in the
Starting point is 01:27:07 water if i was meant to be there i would already be right right those animals that come in and out of the water no don't trust him no can't trust him no you can't live in one place of the other pick a lane right well actually that's not true if they come on to land and they're cool sure if they're not hurting anybody toads that's fine toads are pretty cool yeah except for the ones that are poisonous right but you can lick some of the other ones i'm not gonna get into a little okay toads are generally toads are a whole thing okay in the same way that i like to swim in the water sure i'm not gonna hurt a fish true i'm not gonna i'm not gonna bother them yeah we are just i'm a traveler in the waters right i don't mind if you're a guest in foreign land yes yeah i don't
Starting point is 01:27:43 mind if a frog hops around that's fine that's what it is yeah but sure you get like an alligator or something like that uh uh that's a dinosaur keep it in the water that's a dinosaur anything in the water anything more than a million years old get the fuck out of here i'm done so anyway nasi i'm fine okay i think we'd get along so we have one last clip okay okay we're gonna come back and talk about some key ways to protect ourselves and get into what's coming next and the russia situation and then blaming the missile attack on russia even though they admit russia didn't do it but but but but but steve at the end of the day well i mean lead us in a minute a prayer before we go to break because you don't do this a lot but we lead us in a minute
Starting point is 01:28:22 of prayer because god's the answer so steve uh has a little prayer you know honestly if god's the answer uh then why is steve answering all these questions with lucifer great question i don't have an answer i'll tell you i do lucifer no it's god okay so the reason that people would still be blaming russia even if it was a surface to air missile that was launched by ukraine that way errant is because they wouldn't have been launching that if russia wasn't firing missiles see that was the thing so there is still an argument to be made that hey at the end of the day russia still bears some responsibility right the circumstances right this missile would have been launched but alex doesn't care about that we weren't out for a joy ride with our missile is just
Starting point is 01:29:06 we let's fire them willy nilly into the sky no we're being attacked by a nation that is trying to kill us with no interest in really fighting a war anymore that is the rationale there uh if you're curious alex yeah steve is so uncompelling that these are the clips that i have of him uh the declaring war on god cryptids are out and about um i mean on paper those should be on paper those should be good everybody declaring war on god everybody cryptids and we had fun with them yeah there's just nothing meaningful um except for some word play which is nice i do i do appreciate that alex has the uh trump announces his candidacy sure he immediately starts waffling back to like alright i sport trump again yeah you know there's it's a there's a very clear indication of it
Starting point is 01:29:54 he sets out to take calls about it can't handle having these conversations with callers right alright has a nonsensical interview with steve quail yeah and is just just a gross piece of shit about uh medically assisted suicide man if just what a day if i'm trump if i'm trump if even on info wars my candidacy announcement goes over like a fart it's not good it's not good no no no no and the the worst part is i cried about how he would die for you last yeah now he doesn't want to talk about it doesn't want to talk about it would rather hang out and pray with steve quail yeah yeah here's what happened trump over the pin the pandemic everybody watched great british baking show we prefer nice reality tv shows to shitty reality tv shows now it's just how it works
Starting point is 01:30:44 well i mean if you want to actually you know use the baking show sure i would say that his um announcement speech was a little rough and ready i think you i like that slang so much i i i'm jealous of the british being able to use that yeah i i i just like to say rough puff pastry that's what i really i just do i am every time they say rough puff pastry i'm like ah so it's so it feels good rolling off the tongue it's yeah it's good stuff i am waiting the finale of the season oh yeah it's out yet uh it is in britain but not in the united states oh boy you would have to use some sort of vpn or that would be impossible yeah i might have to look into that after the show um but anyway i like sandro ah he's pretty cool sandro's great pretty cool love sandro he's a big
Starting point is 01:31:36 muscly dream guy but also he takes care of kids brilliant he's funny he's smart he's got the whole package god damn it oh my god what a weird we're in love with him yeah as a as a as a household even my pups jump up and sing he's got too much going on for him oh i mean he doesn't need this this is the problem we'll finish this all fair anyway jordan we come to the end of this and uh to quote myself what a fuck what a fuck we'll be back for another episode until then we have a website and do we do it's knowledge fight dot com world's on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight oh hey uh yeah we uh we'll be back then tell them i'm neo and leo i'm dzx clark i got excited there because i realized that uh steve quail is the person who warns us about
Starting point is 01:32:23 and now here comes the sex robots andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first-name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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