Knowledge Fight - #75: January 7, 2011

Episode Date: August 21, 2017

Today, Dan and Jordan time travel back to 2011 to satisfy the request of Policy Wonk Charles. Dan tells Jordan all about what Alex Jones was up to six and a half years ago, and the topics covered include: What was Alex selling before he started selling weird pills? Which president may or may not have lived a secret life? How much does Alex know about Austin banking? Where should you hide your guns, and where should you NOT hide your guns?

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Yes. We do talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Maybe a, maybe a lot. Maybe a lot. Okay. Maybe. Is, like, is there, is there a reason people would listen to that other than just

like two dudes who both- I object hatred of Alex Jones. Who both just know- Maybe? Who both just know everything there is to know about Alex Jones. Oh, what if the show was just, we don't know, neither of us have any idea what's up with him. That would be a wacky new show. We just listen to him like, whoa! No, it's neither of those things. I know a lot about Alex Jones.

I don't know anything about Alex Jones. And that's our dynamic. Today, we are going to be doing a dedicated time travel episode because a donator has requested us to do so. So we get to take a break from our normal rigamarole bullshit and get into the good stuff. Fuck yeah. But before we do, I want to take a second to talk a little bit about the events that have transpired in the world of Alex Jones since we last recorded. He's been on vacation apparently in Seattle. Not sure why.

And a video went viral. Went mega viral. Right. Of someone throwing coffee on him. Fantastic. Fantastic. And we had a debate last night, you and I, about whether or not that was real. Then a lot of people seem to think it was fake. Right.

And my position on it is it's not fake. The argument that people have that it was fake is that the guy who ends up throwing the coffee on him is a wrestling promoter. Right. And that is not enough to convince me that it's fake. Not at all. The reason that I think it's real is because that entire video, he is trying to pick fights with strangers on the street.

Yes. And so someone throwing coffee on him is kind of a reasonable outcome for that. I would hope so. And if he is a wrestling promoter, that could mean that he's hired to do that. Or it could just mean that he's the type of guy who's willing to start some shit. He's a weirdo. Yeah. So that's possible.

And Alex is trying to play it up as he got hit with like fiery hot coffee. And if you watch the video, he doesn't even flinch. No. So either they described it as boiling hot coffee. Yeah. Come on, man. Either his adrenaline is so jacked up from like, I'm, I know I'm going to try and pick a fight with a stranger.

Yeah. It's just like, Oh, burning coffee doesn't do anything to me. Or it was tepid coffee at rest. Like, like he's, he's the guy from a split. That's really what's going on. I don't encourage people to assault Alex Jones. Obviously. I think I still think it's funny.

I don't think it's the right thing to do the like, it's much better to deconstruct his bullshit worldview. Right. But if I ran into him in the street and I had coffee, I might throw up. I would hope to. I don't know. Yeah. I would hope I had it in me.

I don't know what, how I would respond. So regardless, we haven't, we don't have enough information yet to confirm nor deny whether or not it was real. So I am going to give a conditional policy wonk status. We're not playing the sound effect. But you can do that if you want, but we're holding off on it. Conditional. It's not going to give him the sound, not going to give him the drop.

Hopefully, if we can, hopefully someday we will, if we can prove that he's not fake, then he will get an honorary policy wonk status. But just to make sure that his name is out there, it is Jake Stratton. Yeah. That's been, that's gotten out there. I think I've seen some people posting about it. We don't have a scoop or anything. No, no, no, by no means.

But let's, we're going to get into this episode. But before we do, I'd like to give an updated policy wonk status for someone who has donated our friend, Mike B donated to the show very generously. And he is requested that he get a new rank, an entirely new rank of policy wonk, not even foreign policy. Okay. All right. And so I have to oblige.

Okay. Because the way, how could I not? So I'd like to give a shout out to the newest level of policy wonkery. Mike B, you are officially a Zionist protocol. I'm a policy wonk. So thank you very much for donating. We appreciate it. There we go.

Now to the business at hand, Jordan. You are a Pez Defeater is what you are. Indeed. Thank you, Mike B. Today we are going to be going over the episode of Alex Jones's show from January 7th, 2011. Because we got a new policy wonk who donated on the time travel level. I'd like to give a shout out to him. Welcome them to the team.

What's up out there? Charles. I'm a policy wonk. So Charles got in touch with me. Is it Charles Krauthammer? It is. That's a weird one. That's a weird one for him to get in touch with you, but I'm glad to hear it.

He reached out and he said that he wanted us to cover a specific episode, but felt it was a long shot because it is in 2011. It's sort of outside of the, the database that I'm pulling from. Yes. So I did some, I pulled some strings. Did some deep diving. Pulled some strings. I have my own effort.

I don't know. Okay. Okay. I did a deep dive into YouTube and I found some poorly labeled episodes. And I found this episode and boy, thank God I did because this shit is wild. Okay. I'm not even going to tease at all what happens, but you're going to love this ride. January 7th, you know, it's the beginning of the year, 2011.

Why are you setting the scene like it's a Ken Burns civil war documentary? We have just celebrated another coming around the sun. The earth has survived. I did some looking into what was going on in the world at that time to see what is Alex missing. There wasn't a ton of stuff going on. It wasn't a big news, a big news day or anything, but one of his primary narratives is about a supposed bombing that took place in Maryland the day before.

And I say, well, I say suppose it because I looked it up and I found an article about it. And I'll just read to you from the article from CNN. A message found in at least one of two incendiary devices that were mailed to two Maryland state offices complained about Homeland Security road signs in the state. According to a government official with access to information on the investigation, two Maryland employees suffered slightly burned fingers when they opened packages containing devices that set off a flash of fire smoke and sulfur smell authorities say. So it's fucked up because they were being sent to Martin O'Malley's office was one of them.

And the other one was dressed directed to the Maryland Department of Transportation office. So it is fucked up that people are sending maybe offensive things to state offices. That's messed up. But in the end, it wasn't that big a deal because they were poorly constructed and they ended up just slightly burning people's fingers. So it's, it's not the biggest deal. Were they supposed to be like a full on bomb? Or was it like the guy was sending was it was it like the guy sending Joker guns that,

you know, that shoot out bang with the little flag? Here's what I would say about that. If someone were trying to send a giant bomb, it would be counterproductive to include a note because that is pretty true. It seems to me that it was kind of a flashbang kind of thing in order to get attention to the note that accompanies it. And so I don't think it's necessarily the biggest deal in the world. And also he was angry about signs.

Yeah. He here's a sign. Well, here's a quote from the note. Report suspicious activity. Total bullshit. You've created a self fulfilling prophecy. So he's mad about like to see something say something. So he's a fucking lunatic.

Probably also can build flashbangs. Probably a sovereign citizen if I had to guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex, you're mad about signs. We got a lot going on. Alex has a little bit of a take on this about whether or not it's fake.

He's dealing with whether or not it's a false flag. Yes. Yeah. And Alex is dealing with it as if it is like a huge bomb. He's dealing with it and presenting it as like this is very serious as opposed to a flashbang. But here we go. Here's his take. You're going to see more and more staged attacks.

But if the staged attack has too many whistleblowers on the inside, they will pull back from it and then we'll stop hyping it. And that's the real mark of this, what we see going on in Maryland with the two packages that blew up at state offices that were being sorted on their way reportedly to the governor's office. We're now seeing almost no news on this and they're not hyping it in fear mongering. Now that means one of two things. I'm going to step in fear mongering.

But two big things that the probability studies and research shows 90% chance it's one of those two things just to give you a dead reckoning number. A, these were real terror attacks because the rule of thumb is real terror attacks are not hyped, are not promoted or they had provocateurs in there running this and a good FBI agent or state police or others have recorded it and have tried to release it. So Alex, if you want to parse what he's saying there, he's saying that there's not a lot of media attention being given to this. And the reason for that is one of two things either it's real or it's fake, which is like

great, great, very helpful. Now here's my favorite part though. There's a 90% chance it's either real or fake, right? Which means there's a 10% chance there's something entirely new. Probably space beings. I don't know. I don't, I don't fucking know. It's like a Schrodinger's cat, right?

By observing it, that other 10% means that who knows, it could be both at the same time. Absolutely. So that is sort of just a good sense of like his analytical skills at this point in his career, which is great. I love it. He's been on the air for like 17 years at this point. And the best he's got is it's either real or fake, but I'm going to dress it up in weird language.

So people are distracted from the fact that I'm saying a truism. But most of this episode is pretty weak. It's pretty soft. Like I would say two thirds of the episode is entirely ignorable. And then the other third is outrageously amazing. So we're not, we're not going to be covering a ton of stuff because he just does, he breaks down how like the government is admitting that fluoride's bad for you. Yeah.

A lot of fairly standard stuff. So we don't need to talk about a ton of that. But this is super fascinating to me. Because these episodes are full episodes, they don't have the commercials taken out like the rebroadcasts do that I see of current episodes. Okay. So we get to hear what he was advertising in 2011 before he got really successful. Oh, okay.

And it's really fascinating because now all his commercials are for basically just his products. Yeah. But in 2011, He was still working on advertisers buying space. He had to take on ads. Oh, shit. And some of these ads are super fucked up. And here is the first one.

It's wild. New year, new way to smoke. And it's totally wicked. Introducing totally wicked e-liquid electronic cigarettes, the highest quality e-cigarettes in the world. With totally wicked e-liquid cigarettes, there's no flame, no secondhand smoke, no carbon monoxide, no tar, no unsightly brown teeth or fingers and no lingering smell.

So Alex Jones is fucking doing vape commercials. Vape commercials. There's a new way to smoke and it's totally wicked. Yeah. That's amazing. That's fantastic. When I heard that, I was like, whoa. First of all, starting a commercial with, there's a new way to smoke.

That's, yeah, right? What is this, 2011 or like 1947? Like what's going on here? So they... Lucky strike brand e-cigarettes. Vape commercial. You can trust us because we've never lied before. By the way, vape commercial is where we're starting.

The commercial stuff. Okay. By the end of it, you're like, I'm so blown away by these commercials. So at some point in the episode, Alex wants to get into celebrities a little bit. And here's his take on some names that we're going to recognize. I know Brad Pitt's seen my films and I'm going to leave it at that and like some. But you would say Angelina Jo Lee is evil without proof, though she made some Illuminati movies.

I tend to not like her and don't trust her. And I know Bono is involved with the Rockefellers. I know he's now is a front of the Bellam Linda Gates Foundation and is evil. It takes me time to research something before I can 100% say, you know, the whole thing is rotten to the core. So I'm, he's lying. How much time? He's lying about that.

Does he have a timetable for us? Like does he, does he give it a week? Research, research takes as long as it takes. Oh, that's true. There is no timetable to it. So generally we're talking about 30 to 45 seconds. But Alex is lying about like, I need to research stuff before I say it. Obviously, but back then that's a pretty restrained version of Alex.

That's true. Now I don't think that Brad Pitt is a fan of his. I don't think so. I don't know, but it's where are we on Sandra Bullock? Uh, calm down. It's surprising to me though, to hear like nowadays, modern Alex Jones would be talking about Angelina Jo Lee drinking blood in rituals and stuff like that.

The fact that I halfway want to talk about that right now. The fact that he's like, now she's made some Illuminati movies and that worries me, but I don't know if I can say that she's evil. Like that's crazy to me. That's so restrained. Where is this even coming from? Why is he talking about, is this like right at Mr. and Mrs. Smith whenever they finally got together in real life?

2011? No, I don't think so. No, it's been a lot longer than that, right? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I think it's because she's heading up like UN initiatives and stuff like that. Okay. All right. Because she got super involved in activism.

I mean, I think she always had that sort of bent to her, but in terms of working with the UN, that might be around 2011. Right. And Brad Pitt is still filming a river runs through it, right? Possibly. My time, my time is not good. I made a real big deal out of how much I loved seven years in Tibet when I was younger. I don't know if I stand by that proclamation.

I remember it being pretty good. What's the one where he's on the ship after his, he gets the really, really long hair? That's seven years in Tibet. No, no, no, no, no, it's not fight club. No, God damn it. It's like in the 1800s, he marries a Native American woman. Oh, seven years in Tibet. God damn you.

So here's another commercial. Folks, you've heard us talk about home game before. Home game is now offering a special promo where you get up to $150 when you buy or sell a home with a home game agent. You find through their find a realtor program. Home game lets you compare realtors anonymously. It's easy. Go to homegain150.com to find and compare realtors anonymously.

Enter promo code homegain150 and receive up to $150 when you close a deal with a home game agent. Share the homegain150 promo code with your friends via Facebook, Twitter, text and more. Look for max the homegain gorilla to find out more about how homegain is going to pay you. Alex had to do that. Alex had to tell you to look out for max the homegain gorilla. Well, one that sounds exactly like something he would say now, but it wouldn't be about the it wouldn't be about the website and it wouldn't be for like, you know, 75 bucks or whatever.

Do you know what was 150? Okay, do you know what? I think he missed his calling. He's good. He's a good voiceover guy. If you didn't have the baggage of having listened to him say so many horrible things, right? The tenor of the voice is so good.

It instantly clicks into my head bigotry though. So I can't do it. Right. But so home, get that man an agent. It's homegain.com. I look at this movies are terrible. I looked into this a little bit. I looked into homegain.

I love the world we're living in now. 2011 is perfect. I looked into homegain. Yeah. Excellent. Not I looked into the protocols of the elders of Zion. Excellent. That's still in play.

I know it's still in play, but that's my point. So there's a, it basically what it is is a website where they have a bunch of realtors who are paying for their service to be linked up with people to get leads and proposals and stuff like that. So there's a site where people can, you know, give their experiences about products and stuff. And someone opened a thread about like, do you, is this nonsense? You know, that sort of thing. A lot of the responses are, this is a scam.

Here's, here's a response. Homegain.com is a waste of time. I received a lot of fake leads with wrong phone numbers, wrong emails. I do not recommend to anyone using this service. Here's another one. I have had homegain for three months. I've done six quote unquote proposals where there is a prospect that asks for info. Not one has even opened my proposal, let alone rejected it.

Never even even opened. I think it's a waste. That's pretty much the trend of all this stuff. Alex Jones is just hawking weirdo scam product at this point. Yeah. Alex Baldwin would not be happy with the website is what you're saying. 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,160 Vapes and a scam home owner, home leasing.

00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,680 What is it supposed to be? It's like a realtor site. It's like, so it's like find a, it's fine. They have a team of realtors who have signed into them. Like these people who are responding are real. Those are the realtors who have signed in to use their service. And then people who are like have a house or are looking for a house

are supposed to go to home game to be matched with these realtors who are paying some sort of a cut of whatever for the use of the service. I'm glad that Alex Jones has this revenue stream. It's delightful. Who's running home game? I don't know that, that, that much research I did not do. Is it a realtor? Is it is, is it a scammer?

Venture capitalists, venture scam artists, I would assume of some sort. So Alex Jones has two interviews on this show. One is amazing and that's going to be the end of this episode. The other is with this lady named Charlie is a beat. That is not a real name. It is. She apparently, that's not a real name. She apparently worked in the Reagan White House and she is,

I'm going to say generously. She's a lunatic. Charlie is her beat. Charlotte. Charlotte is her beat. Yeah. So one of the things that she wants to talk about is that, intentionally, Reagan was dumbing down the school systems.

It's debatable. I buy that. The other thing is that everyone is a globalist basically in her conception. She wants to talk about the group called the CNP, the council on national policy, which Alex believes she is going to expose on his show as being the right wing version of the council on foreign relations. Okay. So that's the liberal wing and then the right.

And now we're getting the, the dark side to our lights. The right wing version of the dialectic is the CNP. She does not get into that very much, though Alex keeps trying to push her down that aisle. Like, this is why I got you on the show. I wanted to talk about this. And she goes off in all these other bizarre directions. Like she tells a long story about how she tried to get every buddy in the CNP and every Republican, Congress person and politician to join her to get out of the UN and no one

responded to her and that proves that they're all globalists. It's wild. So globalist is her beat. Yes. And it's a, don't point at me. Don't fucking, don't fucking congratulate yourself. It's not, it's not a real name. It's not a real name.

So it's, it's a boring interview and it's kind of unwieldy to try and get clips from because she keeps sort of going down weird paths. Right. But here is a clip of her saying something that I don't, I don't think is true in 2011. Not true now. And we don't have much time today. So really it's probably just as well because the, you know, I'm going to try it all. It's better when I don't have a lot of time than I have to do bullets.

But, uh, you're wasting time. This is terrible to have to tell people this, but we are merging right now with the Soviet Union. Crazy. All right. This is the 20th anniversary of the Soviet Union disbanding in 2011. And we're merging with the Soviet Union. That has not existed in 20 years at that point.

Yes. Yeah. 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:22,160 So, so we're merging with the secret Soviet Union. Yes. Which we all know did not disband. It's the UN. Gotcha.

Gotcha. She's, uh, she's out there. She's wild. I swear. Where's, where's our girl Callahan for this one? I don't know. She's not, she's, I don't have any evidence she's ever been on info wars, but man, if she ever is, that's going to be a great episode.

I think Alex would prefer to pretend he doesn't know she exists. That's my guess because it exposes a lot of how stupid his ideas are. But I think we need to, we need to make a rom-com. It's like Nora Efron should get those two together. Like, um, what is it? You've got hate. Like that'd be great. That'd be great.

You've got hate mail. There we go. But sold it. That's not fair because I don't think. I'm sorry. I can't hear you over the sound of executives knocking on your door to give us money. I'm sorry. I don't think it's fair though.

Cause Carrie Cassidy, I don't think that she's a hateful person. I think I, and maybe she is. I just don't have enough information. No, but that's the plot of it, right? Alex is so filled with hate and Callahan. Cassidy. Do what? Cassidy.

God damn it. I can't, I couldn't remember if it was Carrie Cassidy or yeah, or Carrie Callahan. Yeah, I, I fucked this whole thing up. Yeah, I, I have no idea who she is anymore. No. So at this point in 2011, Alex Jones is not afraid to really make clear that he is a front for a gold operation. In his, he's just, he's just out and out being like, well, he doesn't talk about it ever now.

He doesn't talk about what GCN, the Genesis Communications Network is. Right. He doesn't talk about Ted Anderson. He doesn't talk about how Midas Resources is owned by the same company that syndicates his show, the GCN. Right. He never talks about it. But back in 2011, he didn't feel like he needed to hide nearly as much.

And on this show, they have a straight up commercial for Midas Resources. Okay. When making important financial decisions, you should always know the facts. That's why Midas Resources is willing to pay you to read the facts. Midas Resources, a team of handpicked financial specialists with decades of financial experience who are ready to provide you with state-of-the-art, up-to-date financial services. Midas Resources offers a host of services and stands behind their products. In fact, if you call and order their free Midas Report, Midas Resources will pay you.

This detailed report will provide you with financial history on the safest and most profitable areas to invest in. If you read the report, Midas Resources will send you a free Walking Liberty Silver half-dollar. So what are you waiting for? Get the facts and call Midas Resources toll-free at 888-292-2709. Oh, shit. No, that, I mean, I think they have a new number. You can Google it.

No, no, no. Let's call that number. What is it? 888, play that number again. Free Walking Liberty Silver half-dollar. So what are you waiting for? Get the facts and call Midas Resources toll-free at 888-292-2709. That's 888-292-2709.

And remember, let's see if this is still an operating phone number. Be told why your call is being transferred to Midas Resources. You better remember to say you're on the air. This is freaking me out. Why is this still there for a phone number? I don't know. Are you a business pickup? It's Saturday.

Oh, that's right. It is Saturday. Hang up. This is going nowhere. This is going nowhere. This isn't going to be Larry Nichols. And what are we going to do? Say we want silver?

What are we going to do? There's no game here. I don't know. I just wanted to see if the number was still real. It's weird. I also will say that I know his voice and that Midas Resources came in that automated answer. Was that him?

That's Ted Anderson. So he recorded his own outgoing message. Excellent. But anyway, I just like that. That'd be great if we actually just got Ted. Just like, hey, what's up? You want some gold? We need to talk about Alex.

So one of the things that I find really fun about that commercial and what's illustrative there is they're scamming old people. Basically, because it's like, we'll pay you to read our shit. By giving you a half dollar. Yeah. 50 cents. That is kind of in the same vein as the 10 CDs for a penny kind of operations.

It seems good, but is a scam. So on the show, also Alex tries to take a lot of calls. I still owe those people like $7,000. I probably do too. Yeah. But it's a good thing they went out of business. The good news too is that we were doing it when we were like 12. Right.

They can't collect on 12 year olds. You can't sign a contract or anything like that. So haha. But you idiots. Be that as it may. Alex tries to take a lot of calls on this show. He wants to fill up most of it with calls. And he's much better at taking calls in 2011 than he is now.

He clearly has a little bit better attention span, but he gets this call and it exposes him terribly. And I don't think he realizes it. In Texas, RJ, you're on the air. Alex, what's up, buddy? Good. Good to hear from you. Good.

How you doing? Real quick. Anyway, I just moved here to Austin. And I don't really want to put any more money in the banksters' hands. I was wondering if you could recommend a good local bank. Could I recommend what specifically? A good local bank. It's not a bank.

You know, not a controlled bankster. Sorry I was distracted. They were fixing some equipment in here and had the door open. I couldn't hear you. No, they weren't. I'd have to research local banks myself. In your area. I don't really like to give people financial advice,

because even if it looks like good advice today, the bank might go under tomorrow, even if it's got some great local rating. But you can pull up, type in Texas, top Texas-rated banks, and you'll see which ones have the biggest reserves, which ones are rated having the best customer service. And I would look at a wide range. I personally think, you know, old local credit unions are great.

Things like that. But I mean, I specifically, RJ, don't like to give people, you know, individual advice. Bullshit. His advice was Google it. Yeah. But that's such bullshit, because this guy is calling, saying he lives in Austin.

There's no way Alex Jones, if he believes the things that he professes to believe, wouldn't have a pretty good understanding of what banks were globalist, and which ones were cool. That's bullshit. And where does Alex bank? I think that's probably offshore somewhere. Yeah. I have to assume he has some sort of a loophole scam going on for his money.

Of course. But be that as it may. Well, it's actually all in gold underneath his bed. Yeah. Ted Anderson got to him. Oh yeah. That's the other thing. Him saying that I don't like to give people financial advice is bullshit.

He plays commercials on his show for a gold and silver sale operation. By gold is not financial advice, Stan. It is life advice. That's fair. Okay. Live your life by this rule. By gold. By gold.

Yeah. And he constantly talks about like financial collapse and the dollar is going to go away, which I believe could be interpreted as financial advice. How could it not be interpreted as financial advice? I don't know. The financial advice is leave the financial system. Yeah. That's his advice.

Get out. Yeah. Hey, Google whether or not the world is going to end in about two or three weeks at the end of the summer, as is always the case. The summer of rage is coming up. It's always coming. Yeah. It's right around.

It's my favorite season right before the fall of rage. That's a good one. It's because the leaves change. Exactly. A lot of rage, but some beautiful colors. Oh, they get pissed off. Yeah. Why do you think they turn red?

Just like Alex. Angry. Just like Alex. So up to this point, we played some weird commercials, but not super weird. This next commercial made me blurt laugh at the office. I was sitting there listening to it and everyone stared at me like, what are you doing? Like because I was like, I was blown away by, I first of all can't imagine that this is a real thing.

Secondly, I can't believe that the problem it's purporting to solve is real. It's just layers upon layers of what are you doing? So Mike down on this one because it's that weird. Okay. It's too weird. This is not a drill. Repeat. This is not a drill.

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I mean it's a book about hiding your guns. Yes, where to hide them and where to not. Under any circumstance. Don't hide them. Like what circumstance could arise where you're like well maybe I should hide this gun in this place and the book is like no don't do it not under any circumstance. Sure it's raining outside but don't hide it underneath the porch. It seems like a good idea given the circumstances but that's because you're a fool.

You don't understand where to hide guns. And A look if you're that good at hiding guns maybe you should write another book that says how to hide your book from people trying to shut it down. Let's let's also be honest this is about making weapons caches. Yeah exactly. This is about like no wonder it's illegal yeah exactly. That's why it's like we might disappear at any point because what we're doing is legally dicey. Where not to hide your guns.

Dig a hole. Don't hide them in your underwear. Don't do that. No don't do that. Don't hide it in your shoe. No. Don't hide it in the zoo. So while we're actually on the topic it's just a Dr. Sees book.

While we're on the topic of gun stuff I wanted to bring this up. I just saw an article that came out of Stanford they did a study. Just came out in June actually so it's a little bit old. I had not come to my attention. Alex always talks about how more guns makes people more safe. And this is sort of it's a philosophy that people on the right really believe in. They believe it's that good guy with a gun sort of mentality. And I'll just read this off for you.

States with right to carry concealed handgun laws experience increases in violent crime according to a Stanford scholar. Stanford law school professor John Donahue found that states that adopted right to carry laws have experienced a 13 to 15 percent increase in violent crime in the 10 years after enacting those laws. And so this dude went over fucking data for a decade of information that could be found and compared them to states that don't have right to carry laws. And he found that that thing is entirely a myth.

Well country wide crime has been going violent crime has been going down steadily. Since the 70s. So if you see a decade long increase in crime in violent crime you're fucking up. Yeah because that's not that's not just a 10 percent increase. That's a 10 percent increase on top of the decrease that should have been seen average wise. Yeah. So there's a swing of at least like what 20 percent something along those lines. Yeah.

I think I'm comfortable with the 13 to 15 that comes from this analysis. We don't need to bump it up to 20. That's fine. But that's just illustrative of the fact that that that sort of mythology that argument is kind of bullshit. It's from Stanford. Liberal bastion liberal bastions. Of course.

They're just they're just a front for Obama trying to take your guns away Dan. At the same time even though I acknowledge that that is entirely true. I still don't think that people should have their guns taken away. I just want to be clear in case there are any Alex Jones is listening. How could we take their guns away. They know how to hide them. That's true. They all bought the books.

I also like violent criminals who are coming for your guns because gun prices are so high. I like that. That's the presentation of it. It's not that like the government is Obama. It's violent criminals who are just like oh I wish I could get a gun but I can't afford one. I'm 30 bucks off. Yeah. I just can't afford it.

I got to go. I got to go. I got to go steal a gun from somebody. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. That commercial. Now I want you to I want you to look for a gun.

Why would you go to somebody's house who has a lot of guns. That's just bad. That's just a bad idea. Well because generally you can assume that they haven't read this book. That's true. You know not every gun owner knows where to hide guns. So they're just going to have it in a safe. Yeah.

Very gauche. So as weird as that is there's another commercial coming up that's even weirder. That's saying a lot. So Alex like I said he's taken some calls and here's a caller who wants to tell you about a superpower that we did not know the globalists have. They now had thousands of doves die with green dripping out of their beaks. All right. All right.

Yeah. I mean what kind of you know gets me thinking a little bit is you know you see how they can actually control you know volcanoes erupting and stuff like that you know a lot of these things that happen you know with killing a lot of wildlife that I noticed is around volcanoes when a lot of these you know poisonous gases infuse fumigate from whatever these volcanoes and a lot of wildlife starts dying off. I mean well there is a big fault line where all these birds are dying over by Arkansas and that area where four states come together.

So globalists can control volcanoes. Great. I don't understand what exactly the point was there. What do you mean. I know I know a lot of wildlife die. Yeah. Around volcanoes because of the poisonous gases that are released. But the globalists are causing those gases to be released.

But I don't understand what you don't understand. I don't understand how they're. Wait what. What. Using. What. Also seismic weapons. Who is who or who's killing all the doves and making green shit pop out of their eyes.

It's it's the globalists because the dove is a sign of peace and they cannot handle that. I'm just I'm editorializing. You're just going with the symbolism inherent in the doves. I'm spitballing but it seems like maybe that's what they're doing. Okay. Okay. But the volcano where does this guy even get any information about volcanoes period. I don't know.

Probably he's he still thinks that volcanoes are made of paper machete. And it's because the earth is angry. The globalists just taught the earth. That's how they call it. That's how they call it. Scream at it. Yeah. Yeah.

You're dumb. Nobody's more of a snowflake than a volcano. Everybody knows. Very sensitive. Yeah. Yeah. Always offended by everything. So we want this PC culture that is killing all of our doves.

PC actually stands for pyroclastic. Sure. PC society. Sure. All right. So we've already illustrated a bit that these commercials are fucked up but they're also on some level strategic. Yeah.

Like he talks about the economy falling apart and stuff like that and then plays commercials for buying gold. Of course. On this episode he talks a lot about how the government has finally admitted that fluoride is bad for you because there was something that came out where people were trying to push for lowering the amount of fluoride that's in the public's drinking water. And Alex takes this to be like we now know it's bad. But the reality of that is a lot of anything is bad.

So a little bit of fluoride is not really all that bad from all the research I've done. But not not brain force. But brain force doesn't matter how much you take. It's always good. We have always. We know that's not true. Always good for. We have documented audio evidence that that's not true.

DNA force. Good stuff. Take it all. Super male vitality. You should not eat on hamburgers. We know this. We have shown this. So bone broth.

Come on. Like I said. Tastes like chocolate according to Millie Weaver. It's true. She loves it because she loves chocolate. Anyway on this episode he's talking tons about fluoride and then he plays this commercial. This message starts with a great offer from Big Berkey water filters because we don't want you drinking dangerous water one minute longer.

Right now purchase any filter system from BigBerkeyWaterFilters.com to get your choice of two Berkey sport bottles, a KDS shower filter, a set of fluoride filters, or our new Cyclas spigot absolutely free. Why do this? Because over 60% of municipal water is fluoridated and it less than two cents per gallon. Berkey water filters purify both treated and untreated water, removing dangerous chlorine, fluoride and other contaminants. Big Berkey water filters are powerful enough to purify stagnant pond water so they're perfect

for rainwater collection systems and emergency preparedness. Ah there it is. Big Berkey includes free shipping on every order over $50 and GCN listeners get 5% off all ceramic filter systems. Great. So I mean there's the emergency aspect to it like society is decrumbling. Yeah that's there. But then even on top of that he mentions fluoride in that 40 second commercial like four times.

Right. Yeah. And you could make, the reason that there's a cowardliness on Alex's part is that there is a plausible deniability argument that you can make that like yeah of course I advertise for this because I believe all of this stuff and this is the solution to it. Of course. Which is not true. He wants to make the money and his narratives match what products give him money.

How do you filter fluoride? I don't know. Charcoal? Out of the water? Like well it like a lot of those filter systems are charcoal based. The water runs through like charcoal beads or whatever and heavy metals and stuff are absorbed by the charcoal. I don't know.

I don't know it fully and I don't know what Big Berkey is up to. But I will tell you I know what Big Berkey's up to. What's that? Selling cones. Crushing small Berkey. Yeah. They're up to. I prefer my mom and pop local Berkey store.

But Big Berkey's got a Big Berkey. Well here's the other. They named it Big Berkey. Here's the other really fun thing is like Alex still sells water filtration systems. But they're not Big Berkey. Like he has all of these products. A lot of them are still things now vaping. No that's not around anymore.

But he clearly. Vape like Alex Jones. With the yelling vape. Ah! I just want a cigarette. Ah! It's like a duck calling. Let's make that.

How can we make vaping more annoying? Oh I don't know. The pen screams when you use it. Great. So like he it's fascinating to me because. You've got hate vape. That's not going to set the world on fire. Okay.

So I think that what he does and has done since 2011 is he has these products like the water filtration stuff and he's not making a good enough margin on it. So he finds another company that's a little bit easier to exploit and he pushes harder and gets a better profit margin with whatever the line he sells now is. Right. I think that that's probably or I guess I haven't done enough research. It's possible that Big Berkey changed its name. Yeah that sounds that sounds more likely.

It's possible mainly because of course they should change their name. Yeah. So their name is Big Berkey. We're about to get into the interview that is. Wild. But before we do we got one more commercial. Okay. And this is nuts.

This is so crazy. Okay. I like it but it's it this also made me blur laugh. Diamond Gusset is proud to announce the anthem of the Patriot movement. They're offering a free CD t-shirt and bumper sticker with a qualifying purchase. Diamond Gusset offers great products at great prices while keeping Americans working. Looking for a factory where a man can feed his friends and not worry about them moving south closing the doors and shutting her down.

It's an anti NAFTA song. I'm looking for America where American and be proud go to gusset.com forward slash America. Seems like I just woke up one day and it was gone long gone. But I know in my heart it's still again go to gusset.com forward slash America today. So that song is awesome but I should tell you that Diamond Gusset is a gene company. They sell pants. Yeah. Oh no no no I'm I'm looking it up as we speak.

I actually have already done so. Oh of course you have. And I have their Yelp page open. Oh some interesting reviews have come in about Diamond Gusset. It didn't solve NAFTA. No it certainly didn't. Oh that fucking song is so great. I'm looking for a factory that won't move south.

It's great. I love love songs. Yeah so here's a review from SP. That's like a Craigslist ad. Yeah I'm looking for a factory. M for F not female factory. Male for factory. Yeah nice products.

I like the jeans and the canvas pants. However if you order online be aware that this company has zero customer service. They're incapable of providing the correct size. They evidently manufacture and tag the pants without measuring the waist sizes. All sizing is random. I have ordered. This is my favorite company now. I want random jeans just to show all sizing is random.

I love it. Their slogan is good luck. Lose weight asshole. Yeah. That'll fit. I've ordered. Or gain weight. I don't know it's random.

I've ordered multiple pairs to attempt to get at least one pair of the correct size which seems like a foolish way to do this. All right what are you doing dude. Jeans or pants marked 35 can in actuality be 36, 38 or 37. Seems to be random. You will spend money sending them back due to their error. They also refuse to hand select pants to get you the correct size. So basically this company is incapable of providing the correct size pants to their

customers. How is it still in business. I don't know but I also think God I love this place. Here's another one from Eric B. Not the guy. What about what about Rock Hill where Kim does not have. Okay. I want to know how Rick him feels about Gusset now. Received the pants I ordered and they don't even come close to fit.

I love this place. I love this place so much. Are you telling me that I can just order random pants. That's my favorite thing. They don't even provide return shipping. Now I get to pay $13 to return the pants. They charge $13 to ship to me. I will never waste my money here again.

You shouldn't either. Car hurts and Arbor wear fit true to size. Why wouldn't you just give the pants to somebody else instead of waste $13. I don't know. This is another one from Dan C. Very disappointed. It's not Dan Cortez. I didn't say anything.

Very disappointed in customer service. Exclamation point. Ordered three pairs of jeans although really wanted a pair of their defender jeans. They did not have my size in defender. So I ordered their Orange County jeans. They might have your size in defender. It's a good point. But I made a request in the notes section that I really want the defender.

Not the Orange County. I asked if they could make an adjustment. Received the jeans but never heard from them regarding my request. Then within 10 dais they advertise up to 30% discount on some of their jeans. Well it so happened that all three pairs that I ordered were now on sale. I called them and asked if they would refund the difference between what I paid and the current price. They said they cannot do that. I will return the order and get my money refunded for the whole order.

It's their loss because of lousy customer service. By the way I work for Costco. Yes they are a big company. But one of their policies. Why are we getting into personal details of this guy? Because one of their policies is if they have a lower price within 30 days they refund the difference. This is one of the reasons they have grown like they have. Doesn't Costco sell jeans?

Uh yeah he should have just bought jeans. He should have just bought jeans from Costco. Yeah. Wear it. God I love gusset.com. Diamond gusset. Diamond gusset. I'm going to order everything from diamond gusset.com from now on.

Paul M has this to say purchased online. Worst experience ever. I find that hard to believe. Inform them that the jeans I purchased discolored after one wash. Keep in mind I have a jeans cycle on my washing machine. Were they the right size though? The customer service representative who has barely discernible English informed me that they have never. That is never.

Meaning in the entire company history including the time this person probably didn't work there. Had an issue with jeans having a color issue after washing. Amazing this is possible. And the person has worked there is long to know this. They're more amazed that you are actually wearing the jeans. That's what they should be shocked by. Of course they've never had an issue. Nobody's ever washed them.

I was told I could mail them back and they would look at them. This of course is at my expense. 30 day guarantee on the website is a complete lie. They take a look at them. This is from Benjamin. Oh yeah that's definitely a color spot. Send them back. This is from Benjamin B not Benjamin Button.

I wasn't going to say anything. I wouldn't recommend Diamond Gusset. They lost my order. Mad kept me on the phone for 20 minutes trying to figure out what happened. I'm glad they're an American company. But man. But man do they need to get organized. I love it.

Where are these people. God that's amazing. That's amazing. So again it's a terrible company. How is this company still in business. Well I mean here's the deal. Let's be honest. If they move their factory down south maybe they'd make a higher quality product.

Maybe they're suffering from shitty American manufacturing. I don't know. But that song is a banger. All right. So here we go. I do want a free CD and t-shirt from diamondgusset.com slash America. America. So here we go.

We're going to get into it. Now everything is going to be insanity. It's all it's all up in the air. So at this point in Alex Jones's history. It's going to be as random as those pants. No it's not random. It's just bizarre. So Alex Jones at this point in 2011 apparently.

I haven't listened to a ton of episodes to know this is true. But he mentions it. That every week on Friday he has a guy named Bob Chapman come on the show. All right. I'm liking Bob. He's not around anymore. I don't know if he's dead. I can't find him through a Google search.

So Tracy Chapman killed him driving a fast car. Exactly. Yeah. We figured it out. That was quick. That investigation. So he's apparently on every week and he is a Republican guy. He was involved with Reagan's mayoral campaigns.

I'm sorry. Governor Toriel campaigns. Gouverna Toriel. Whatever. So he was involved in that sort of world. And he has some insight and what have you. We just had this interview with this Charlotte lady. And she's talking about how Reagan wanted to dumb down the schools.

And he's probably a globalist and the CNP is full of globalists and she wants to get out of the U.N. and no one's going along with it. I think she said some bad things about Phyllis Schlafly which Alex cannot stand for because he's a big Schlafly flan flan Schlafly flan Schlafly flan. That's a good dessert. Schlafly fan. Schlafly fan. So that's where the first interview also Phyllis Schlafly is the

single worst person on the planet. She's unbelievably terrible. She's a monster. Yeah. Her. Yeah. Anyway, we don't have time. I would buy her some of those gusset pants and hurt me knowing her.

They probably they'd probably fucking fit when they. Yeah. So Alex is having this interview and Bob is on the phone. He he he's been on hold for like five minutes when they go to him because the interview with Charlotte ran long. And so Alex wants to get Bob's take on the things that she's saying about Reagan to see if they match up with his first hand knowledge. Of course.

And this is wild. I was involved in the first gluten material race that Ronald Reagan was in. And I know a great deal about him for a lot of reasons. And I know a lot of things that I'll never say on radio because they get me killed. Okay. They'll start really looking for me. And you haven't told me about this stuff. Just like I told the DC madam off air.

I said do not tell me anything that's not on air. I don't we're all being listened to right now. If you're not going to put it out there Bob. In fact, I wouldn't. Well now you've said it. You pretty much got to say it now. He's right. This is going to be shocking.

There's no way it's going to be shocking. Are you kidding me? Alex vet your guests. You know this is going to be a nightmare. You think you think it's not going to be shocking. Okay. It might be shocking, but I don't think it's going to get him killed. I would say no.

Do you have any conception of what is about to happen. Okay. He's got some dirt on Reagan. Right. Okay. Stuff that he'll never say on the radio. Because it could get him killed. But he's about to say it on the radio.

Okay. Because Alex has informed him that now that you've put it out there that you have this information. Oh yeah. There will be kill squads coming unless you reveal it now. Right. Because Alex thinks he's about to get a huge scoop that he has bullied his weekly guest into divulging now.

Of course. Get ready for it. Because it is going to shock you. Okay. Mic down. This is going to be shocking. Ronald Reagan was a homosexual. Besides the fact that during the late 1930s and early 40s,

he was making what we would call today pro-communist speeches. Well that's on record. Yeah. I mean they spun that that he was young and woke up later, became a conservative. Well it all goes. It was part of the reason that he had as many roles as he had in the movies. Because he really wasn't a very good actor.

He was doing sexual favors in Hollywood. So well what shocked me is that Reagan wasn't a good actor. Are you kidding me? Have you seen his B movies? He was the Bruce Campbell of his time. So the reason I wanted you to put the mic down wasn't because I was afraid of that being like mind-blowing or anything like that. Right.

But because I wanted it to sit there. How long of a pause there was after he says that Reagan was gay. Reagan was gay. Alex legitimately. Okay. Alex probably thought that he was going to say that Reagan was in bed with the communists. Oh he was. Literally and figured it out.

Oh yeah. So I think he thought that it was going to be something like really huge. Yeah. And when it came that his his big piece of juicy goss was that Reagan was gay. He was like what do I do? How do I work with this? And you can hear Charlotte on the other line and her response is mm-hmm which is like okay. Wait is her being is still there?

Yes she's silently on the other line with a mm-hmm. So you might be asking yourself at this point how does Bob know this? What what information is he bringing to the table? I mean they kissed once in an office party. That is not correct. Are you sure? No I can't confirm or deny that but that's not what he's bringing to the Alex Jones show. Okay.

Here is what Bob has to tell you. Well I mean now that you've said this incredibly dangerous thing and I don't doubt you Bob you're not somebody I've ever heard feed people lies or baloney and I'm actually incredibly kind of give me a pang of fear like standing at the edge of a cliff. I'm pretty freaked out right now and not even judging Reagan if he was like that. It just freaks me out the power of that knowledge. I mean I mean I do know that you are a conservative icon and did run with a lot of the big guys because you were wealthy and lived in California and were politically involved.

Maybe that's why they've always been after you since but I mean you have at you. I mean what did you witness with Reagan or I mean this is dangerous stuff. We might as well just get this out now. I saw a film and I was also told by his girlfriend before he married Nancy. Oh man. Man this is making me sick. And by sick it's just making me sick. He didn't see a movie.

He saw a film. He saw a film of Reagan and banging a dude. We're going to get to more specifics on that here in a second. He saw a film of Reagan banging a dude right. Pitching a catch. That's quite. I'm fine with. I'm fine with both or either.

I think that you're getting ahead of the game here a little bit. 00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:01,280 We're going to get to all those details because Alex. And Reagan's ex-girlfriend told him he was gay. Yeah. But like I said Alex does not know like how to deal with this because at this. He's standing on the edge of a cliff Dan. He knows how to deal with it fear.

This could get all of us killed. But even you and me right now listening to this they're trying to suppress this information. But here's the deal. At this point in 2011 Alex Jones is not a fully committed devout bigot. Like his show is not at this point the beyond the dog whistle hate speech thing. I think now I haven't listened to a ton of episodes from back then. But how he responds to this is very different than he would now. He would scream about all kinds of shit and how it proves pedophile etc.

Something along those lines. But the fact that he's like well I mean I mean it's it's rough language that I don't like in terms of like if he was that way that sort of thing. That's that's sort of tacky. That's ignorant. Right. Not necessarily horribly. It's not current Alex Jones.

Right. This is a restrained kind of more reasonable man we're seeing. Now at the same time because he's not that outright screaming about different people who aren't straight white Christians who are under attack. He doesn't really know how to deal with this. He doesn't know where he should go with it. And so he keeps asking Bob questions to try and illuminate things. Yeah.

And so we'll get to all see if he can find a path outward. Yes. Yeah absolutely. And he's unsuccessful. But we'll get to all the details that you might be curious about as this goes on. I think we should leave a review on Alex Jones's website about how if you take all of his pills for a few years you become a big hit. I don't think that you're a smart person because you think that there's a review

section on Alex Jones's website. Fair. Fair. Yeah. Let's go to Amazon then. All right. Who know this. Most of them are now deceased.

There's one that is alive that I know of that knew this. And but I also got it from another source. Now when you were earlier on. You were with defense intelligence. Correct. But previously in Berlin. No. I was in Germany.

But quite frankly I was ever in Berlin. And they wouldn't let me go to Berlin unless they flew me in and there was no reason to do that. Where did you. I mean in what context did you see this this film. The film I saw at a private showing and most of the people who are there I didn't even know. And it was by an invitation only. What. Was this a group of conservatives freaked out by it or was this people wanting to blackmailing.

Oh I think it was quite a cross section of people. And well that solves that. And that's where I started but I learned before that. That that was the case. And from the girlfriend. That's right. And I don't know if she's still alive not. She would probably be in her late 80s or 90s now.

Alex is so confused. That that is my favorite thing. Also. Okay. So we're if I understand this correctly. Right. Bob Chapman. Yes.

Goes to his mailbox one day. Gets an RSVP. Absolutely. Just save the date. This is pre email. Yeah exactly. Yeah yeah. It's snail mail.

And then he goes to this party where the main party of the party is we're going to watch Ronald Reagan have sex with another man. Well let's not be too specific about what the film is because at this point all we know is it's a film. That's true. That somehow confirms that Reagan is gay. Okay. So that's all we know.

Okay. So yeah. And and at the party is a cross section of people. These are the things that we know. Confirm how gay Reagan was. We know that Bob doesn't know most of them. Right. Right.

He does know some who is inviting him to this party then. That's unclear. Why would anybody invite Bob to a party. Why would this be a party. So then beyond that who's got a big enough theater in their home to properly watch. Really rich people. Reagan bang a dude. We're really rich man.

That's no big deal. Oh that's true. The other thing is that he refuses to say unequivocally that this was an attempt to blackmail him and he says that it's not accurate to say that it's conservatives who are just disgusted. Yeah. I think I think people just wanted to watch Reagan bang. The agenda of what this meeting is is bizarre. I think people just want to watch Reagan bang.

It's possible. I mean I'd watch that. Yeah. So Alex I would watch any president bang. At this point Alex realizes that he's coming into some of the same issues that you are. In terms of like he's talking to this dude. He's hearing this story be told but he doesn't really know the specifics. Like what was the tape.

Because all we know is that I would not watch Willard Willard Fillmore bang. Wilford Brimley. That dude is gross. What about the two of them. Wilford Brimley and I mean I want to see a mustache ride on a Wilford Brimley. So here we go. He gets into it. Alex asks for more specifics.

Okay well this is obviously very dangerous right now Bob. So was this a porno tape or just him holding hands with a guy. What was this. No no it I don't know whether I should talk about the way it happened on air. But they're gonna probably come kill you and maybe me if you don't. So just get it all out right now. The film was a woman with him who used an artificial device to do what they did.

That's not gay. Had this been taped covertly by an intelligence agency. It was trained covertly but not by a intelligence agency. Reagan made his own thing. That doesn't necessarily mean he's homosexual then. But it does but that's par for the course with these politicians. That is just unbelievable news. Unbelievable.

I actually wish I wouldn't have asked. I thought it was going to be something like drugs or something. Okay this show is really taking a crazy turn. Reagan likes to have to play. I'm pretty freaked out right now. I love this Alex Jones because he has a guy. It's not even like that doesn't even sound like he's gay so we'll move on. Well but he's like he's like I thought you were going to say something about drugs.

This is weird. The show is taking an unexpected turn. I'm freaked out. That's great. That's awesome. That's the kind of Alex Jones I love. Remember like episodes back. I was talking about how one of the reasons that I feel so passionately about how much I hate

the current Alex Jones is because there is a place for this sort of thing. Oh yeah. I mean granted he's still full of shit. He's still pushing narratives that are based on lies. And this it is into homophobic territory a little bit in many ways. Alex's front. That's the thing. That's the weirdest thing I heard there was Alex

given the very reasonable position of that doesn't sound like he's gay. It's downright bordering on sex positive. Yeah. He's like he just likes to strap on. Yeah Alex very easily could have been like I've done that shit too. Moving on. He tosses it away kind of like that's not proof that he's gay. That's common in West Coast circles and stuff like that.

That's insane. The idea of thinking of him saying that nowadays is impossible to imagine. Of course. And it's it's funny and it's great. I just it this bums me out just based on. I just want to know who is at this party. We're going to get to that. Watching this watching Reagan get his ass play going.

We're not even close to done with the. Paging does not make you gay. No. Not at all by no means. But so everybody likes a little ass play. Come on man. Compare this to coffee throwing Alex. You know getting coffee thrown on him Alex.

Picking fights with strangers on the street because they don't realize globalist stuff like that. It's it's so depressing to see that in six years that huge of a transformation happened. Yeah and it's bummer. It really is kind of the the same course that the radical radicalization of right wing media took for everybody like at a certain point how many of us can actually talk to our parents anymore. You know I can't my parents are liberals.

Yeah I can't. My parents are strong liberals out there in Austin Teja. Done. Done. Well like my whole family has been conservative. They've always been Republican. Right. Because they think that Christianity means that's what you do.

But this this level of insanity from them is just like where do you guys get this shit. Well one of the problems is it came on in degrees. Yeah. And especially with the youth I believe or you know youth including up to like 30 year old types. Right. Which is strange for me to say but I think I'm protecting my own age. Like I'm not old.

But I think that a lot of it crept up on people through differing like there was a lot of subterfuge like with Gamergate stuff and pens rights activists. Yep. Like those communities became portholes to radicalization through like real rampant distrust of any liberal movement any liberal ideas. The idea that George Soros is trying to trick everyone into cultural Marxism. Like those sorts of things are implicitly a part of Gamergate and men's rights activism in as much as they are so based on being anti feminist.

Yeah. And so I think for a lot of people I don't think your parents are necessarily in that milieu. But a lot of people didn't see the end coming. Like they don't see the end result that we have now is not what they expected when they started that path. Oh of course not. They thought hey maybe maybe feminism is a little bit out of line. Right.

Maybe they are asking for too much and they do actually not want equality. They want to be over men and fragile male egos. It kind of makes sense why someone would get seduced into that viewpoint. Not realizing that it does not stop there. You're going to end up being a Nazi like you know what and that. It's a clear path. That gives a very that gives a lot of credence to the idea that maybe Hitler was just a failed artist.

It's possible. Like if all it took was gamers to be like I don't like fairness and journalism ethics to get to Nazis. Yeah. Maybe Hitler should have gotten a you know a gold star for one of his patents and then we would be fine. It's possible but I think the bigger issue is it will be a huge pox on looking back this period of history.

It will be a big black mark on our history that people especially men did not listen to women in terms of Gamergate stuff in terms of everything especially the Gamergate and men's right stuff. The fact that people turn such a blind eye and I mean I was kind of hip to what was going on but I certainly didn't act out enough. I didn't speak out of course and I regret that deeply. But history will show when they write books about it and some people probably already have.

I think the fish people will write amazing books. You mean the guys who follow Trey Anastasio on tour. So anyway it's going to be so much like I remember reading. I can't remember what fucking what the name of the book was but the basic gist of it was like interviewing people after World War two in Germany and who are always just like no no no I wasn't a Nazi. It was it was those guys over there. I heard about those Nazis.

Right. Not me not my family. We were always like that's going to be one of the good people. Everyone else is terrible. Oh yeah absolutely. And you you go to one of those places and you will see so many well like the Nazis now who are losing their jobs and all that shit in a year dogs anymore in a year. They're going to be like oh I was never like that.

I know that they were just portraying me wrongly. I was a misguided kid like that whole thing. Baked Alaska is even already playing that game. And it's a map the millennial or whatever. The guys who were like look we were fucking around. Yeah yeah it was a joke. We were doing it for the lulls. Right.

That sort of narrative is already taking shape even though the complete disaster has not yet occurred. Right. But be that as it may we'll see the organization in the rally in Boston is going on as we record this or did today. And that gives me some optimism. Massive hope. Really truly a beautiful thing.

Hopefully something doesn't terribly go wrong later tonight. And then this sounds like you know. They still haven't released the guys who beat the or they still haven't arrested and arraigned the guys who beat the shit out of Deandre Harris. Yeah that's that's bad. And they know who they are and they have addresses. Yeah that's bad. It's not good.

It's not good. There's a lot to deal with in terms of who's a snowflake. Who's a snowflake. The hundreds of people who went to the police station to say hey we took down that fucking bullshit Confederate statue or the guy who beat the fuck out of somebody and is no no I never did it. I didn't get it. Or the fucking cops who refused to do anything.

Fuck the whole this whole narrative that the liberal snowflakes are all that shit. You know. Yeah. No. We're not we're not offended by bullshit. We're pissed off at you idiots. Yeah yeah yeah. It's not it's not hypersensitivity or no no.

It's it's something that's morally repugnant. Yeah. Has no place in it's called it's called being a good person. And you know there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff that we should unpack in terms of there's a lot of foreign issues that are also equally repulsive. And I think it's something that we should maybe take a look at. We don't do a good enough job necessarily on this show of you know other atrocities that happen around the world.

The number of things we don't do a good enough job doing on this show is I mean you know it's important. We're pretty good at doing the main thing that we do. I feel like we focus on Alex and unfortunately that means we can't talk about how terrible other governments are outside of let's say ours and Russia. Turkey fucking Turkey man. Alex doesn't talk about them too much. Yeah I imagine not.

Isn't which one was was it Manafort. Who was it that was Flynn was working Flynn was the one who was working for one. Yeah yeah yeah yeah because yeah Manafort was more based out of Ukraine and that's right Kuvic right but be that as it may. We got to get back to Reagan being gay. Can you say that sentence one more time. Ladies and gentlemen we got to get back to Reagan being gay. So this next clip Alex wants to know when Bob saw the film.

Bob Chapman I guess a Hollywood actor Bohemian Grove I mean I mean I guess it's really par for the course but what year was this whenever you were shown this film. That doesn't inspire confidence. Wait if it was the late 1970s and early 1980s. Reagan was either president or just about to be president. Yes. So also there was a party. I can't get around this.

I can't get around the story. Somebody invited Bob Chapman to a place to watch a film of the president getting pegged getting pegged. Yes. Now that is a great day. Sure. I would think think of all the positive feelings you would have here be like oh I was invited to this they think I'm so cool that I would be happy to watch the president getting

pegged well and then you see the president getting pegged and you're like well that was all right wasn't as good as I had hoped. I don't even think they gave him a reach around which is like what's the fucking point you know what I'm saying. It's probably from a bad angle. Yeah exactly. I can't jack to this but like you hit the nail kind of on the head I think with your first piece there that is given the time frame Reagan was a massively important figure.

Yeah. So the idea that he gets involved he gets invited to this screening where they watch him getting butt fucked is like why do you only have a decade like late 70s early 80s could be a swath of 10 years. Yeah. That we're talking about like you would remember very clearly the day you saw the president get pegged. Yeah.

That would definitely that would be my 9 11. That's for sure. That calls into question the entire credibility of this story. The fact that he does because if it was me and let's say I get invited to a party and I see Trump getting pegged. I'd be like that happened in 2017. Yeah. I remember it very well.

Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. The sky was blue. I remember there was two clouds in the sky. One bird flew by like you would have total recall of that entire day years past. Yeah. I would still remember exactly. I would not stop telling that story. Yeah.

Absolutely. And then then I guess he hasn't because he's afraid to be killed. Yeah. That's possible or he's tried to forget it or it's all made up. It could all be made up. Who knows. I bet Trump has been pegged maybe. So anyway I mean and if he has God bless him.

Who cares. This next clip we get into more about the nature of this screening and Alex again is really trying to find a foothold. So I mean obviously then he's been blackmailed all along if you were taken to some elite screening. I mean was this an elite screening or. Yeah it was a lead. And but I knew already. Well I mean let me tell you something.

Hold on. If somebody said come to a screen. Did they tell you what was going to be at it because if somebody told me hypothetically come to a screening a Bill Clinton you know getting rough with a woman or something you know which we know he likes to do he knocks their teeth out. I would say no way. No way no way. I mean.

You would say yes. I've read on the heartbeat and it's not that I'm a coward. I don't have a death wish. I want to keep operating and fighting them out in the open. This is a kind of stuff that is super dangerous. It's like I told the DC madam and I mean why would the I mean were you told it was a screening of Ronald Reagan or do they just get you there and show it to you. No they said it was important.

They got me there and I was shown it. Could it have been a fake. I really didn't know what the content was going to be. Could it have been a fake. I don't think so. Well was it black and white. Faking movies but I know Reagan's asshole like me. Was it black and white.

Yes. How old did he look. I quite frankly can't remember. I mean was it the older Reagan at the time or was it a younger Reagan. That's a good question. How do you not know. I would say older. Oh man.

Anything else Bob that you need to get out now so they don't set a hit team down there. Well quite frankly he was a nice person to be around. Is there anything else Bob. Yeah you can hear the frustration. Oh yeah his voice because he thought we're standing on the precipice of danger. Oh yeah we got a real thing going on. He thought like I don't know. I don't know what it would be some sort of drug running operation inside information.

I mean we already had Iran Contra. Yeah he thought this is a bigger scandal than that. Well I mean he has Larry Nichols on all the time who was involved in that. Yeah dealing with Nicaragua. Yeah but that's fine. Yeah who cares. So in this next clip Alex is really like I said this whole time he just does not know what to do and in this clip he's really struggling to figure out what to judge.

He doesn't know where to put his disgust really because he's not a super angry public bigot. So he can't just be like queer. This guy is a queer or anything like that. So he has to figure out like what is it about this story that I'm mad about. And he has a lot of. Oh it's Bob. That's what it is. It's about Bob.

It seems like this might be the end of Bob's tenure as a weekly guest but here we go. It's hard to shake me up and Bob what shook me up is not that there's wild stuff going on in Hollywood. It's that Ronald Reagan is such an icon for so many conservatives as like this image of conservatism and what he said the things he was for on paper sounded really great. And I remember watching politics during the Republican and Democratic conventions in 79-80 and my parents not telling me what political views to have who do you like. So I watched the Democrat Republican and I said I like the Republicans. I like Ronald Reagan when I was you know six years old or whatever.

I'm only 36 folks and it's just that icon image. But it's not even that he was some woman doing something freaky. I mean that's still disconcerting but I'm not here judging people. It's Bob Chapman who I know is an icon conservative. Bob true conservative pedigree going back to 50 years. I know you know all these people. I know you've been instrumental in all this stuff. I know you were friends with Reagan that's on record.

And then you come on air and say that and so I have to take it as the truth. I wish it wasn't the truth. It's like I don't know how to how to compute that. I mean that sounds so Hollywood-esque you know dark film right there. Just black and white footage of Ronald Reagan. With you know it was some I mean why were you invited to this meeting Bob Chapman. Because I was connected to a couple of other people who were invited. And what did they say?

I mean they said this is why we're showing this. No they just said it's a very interesting film. And you should come and watch it. And I know these people quite well. The character work was amazing. Okay I'll go. And that's what I found out. And they said to me afterwards well what do you think?

I said well I'm surprised that I'm not. And then I told them what I had learned from somebody else years before. And um. Do you think this was an intelligence gathering operation? When people they know knew and were friends with Ronald Reagan. To see if they could get more intel? No these are people uh the ones who I knew who were there. Who I knew who they were uh they were all very conservative people.

But there were other people there I didn't know so. How many people were there roughly? About 15, 18. I know as soon as this shows over I'm gonna think of a hundred things I wanted to ask you about this. Well I'm gonna be around for a long time so don't worry about it. No I know. But you know I was shocked too. And uh and I liked him.

Uh he was a very nice person. Uh you know at least uh to me socially. Uh and um. That's just the way it turned out. And you know I lived in Southern California for 36 years. And uh. Turns out he likes getting pegged. You came to expect that you would find out things like that about people.

That you wouldn't normally find out in Indianapolis, Indiana. It was a pretty wild lifestyle in California. Like there is a New York City. Lot of pegging out there. And especially Southern California. Well I guess San Francisco has been. No I've I've I've brushed up against it. I don't like it.

And I don't and we got a lot of affiliates out in California. Beautiful coast. Nice people. I just don't like Los Angeles uh and and and the overall. And of course that's an oversimplification. I I just kind of get the willies. And it's not that I get the willies. I mean I'm not judging somebody.

And I'm not certainly endorsing it. But I mean you know what some kind of woman are doing whatever. It's just the films of it and stuff. That seems to be where he's landing. It's bad to film. Sex. I guess. I suppose.

You can see it though. He doesn't know what to do here. He's like I uh you know that weird Hollywood lifestyle. I don't approve of it. I'm not condemning it. I don't know what a guy and a girl do. It's fine. Don't don't tape it.

I love I love Bob Chapman's summary of like. I didn't know what it was going to be. My friend said is a very interesting. Very interesting. So we saw it. And afterwards they asked me what did I think. I thought there were some third act issues. Like what are you talking about.

Right. And it's just all the president get pegged. What do you think. You know I don't think it changes my opinion of his ability to govern but I did not know that he could fit a dildo that big in there. I don't know what are you supposed to say. And he already knows. Yeah.

He already has the girlfriend from the past who's told him this already. So and what did she tell him. He never says. I imagine the girlfriend must. The girlfriend didn't tell him that he was gay. The girlfriend said he liked getting pegged. He likes ass play. Yeah.

And because it was such an unevolved time there was no differentiation. There was just like. He probably heard from the girlfriend that he likes maybe a finger in the ass. Yeah. And then his response was oh I know he's gay as opposed to you just like it's a little fun. Yeah. Or maybe likes to get weird. I mean Bob it seems like Bob should have tried it immediately after that.

Right. If it's good enough for the play is good enough for the president. Bob you got to give it a go. Yeah. Yeah. Come on man. Grow up Bob. There isn't a who which comic said it.

There isn't like a button inside your asshole that turns you gay. I don't know. But fine. Yeah. So like it like we're like we're experiencing Alex is not sure what to do. He's judging California but then being like I don't know gives me the willies not the willies like I don't like gays but like it's it's it's he's let he who has not been pegged cast the first he is amateurish.

Yes. At this point. He does not know what he's doing and in this next clip he sort of makes clear that now in his defense though that's a weird ass thing to be told when it's a weird ass thing to be told. No that's a weird thing. So he thinks he's about to get a huge scoop on the secret Reagan conspiracy communist. This could be his next bohemian growth. Right.

Right. And instead a guy that he is regularly had on the show just drops in with like oh Reagan's gay. Yeah. What are you there's no way he doesn't just drop that in. He does say I shouldn't be talking about this. It'll get us killed right or whatever. Right. But if even if you're you know even if you're Walter Cronkite you're not going to be like

well I've got a plan for this one. I think you could. I think I think if I were in Alex's shoes I could kind of roll with it. Well yeah but you wouldn't you wouldn't have to take it seriously. That's true. And Alex is doing his best the best he can to ask questions and I think through the questions he's revealing that Bob does not have a good grasp on details and that leads me to believe barring any other evidence any invitations to a weird party that I might get

in the future. Oh man. But like without that in place I don't believe him. These details don't make sense. The vagueness of his inability to answer questions that are very simple like was it old or young Reagan. When did you see this. Right.

Why were you there. It's all just so vague. See now I imagine this tape as being like the room where like people get together and they shout the same thing. Yeah. Hey look it's like Rocky Horror. Yeah it's like Rocky Horror picture show. Yeah.

Now I want to see this. In this next clip Alex he kind of shows a little bit of his cards and there's a real sense that he is pretty bummed out. Yeah. About the way the show has gone. Well he's the the way in which he said Bob that one time that's that's more the way to go Bob. Well I mean did they tell you who it why it had been taped.

I mean you said covertly. I mean this is horrible. Oh Reagan. I don't know why it was taped but I think it was for blackmail and and then it was I think used politically later. Well no kidding. I saw it. Well then why would they leak it out to these people so the message would get back to Rainbow

Ronnie that everybody knew. Rainbow. No I don't think so. I I just think that they thought it was time to show it I guess. I I really don't know there. It was. Well I can't play it on air because there's so much profanity but Harper's magazine six years ago published another report about Nixon interviews they'd done and stuff they

didn't publish in the 70s and when people thought they said oh that can't be true they released the tape and it's uh you know Bohemian Grove San Francisco and the northern California yeah they all go up there with Reagan everybody else let me tell you something it's the most you know they started using profanity but talking about all the homosexuality and uh Bohemian Grove man. It just seems to always pop up with Republicans and then with Democrats it's like beating women and stuff it's like Democrats it's always breaking women's noses and then Republicans unless it's Dick Cheney he likes what the Democrats like it's uh the walking dead

with this violent cart with no pulse uh Dick Cheney and with with Republicans how many of them get caught in restrooms and stuff I mean what's going on I mean do you have to be like that to be a super high-level Republican? No I don't think so but I I do believe that the beginning of our pedophile network right there is in Southern California. Yeah at this point Alex is not developed the narrative. He doesn't have the pedophile network yet. Yep so you know at least in 2011 that was not a piece of his go-to world view

and it's it's possible that he just doesn't think of it. He's not as frenetic of broadcaster at this point. He's just a little bit thrown off by the new by the new information that he has about Reagan. That's possible. I think it's changed the way we all feel about Reagan. Certainly. I think I like him a little bit more. I don't have like I'm not a big fan of the way he released Kraken to the black community.

Sure. Hey I will say that my opinion has not changed at all. I don't care. This is a zero to me. The idea of these. Come on Nancy Paging Reagan in the White House come on. I'm more interested in the idea that there were these parties of people watching it. I know.

That to me is much more fascinating than the tape itself. Where do you get an invitation to this shit. I don't know. I think it's probably I think the time has come and gone. I don't think these parties are being held anymore. We gotta find out. I think we're screwed. Let's let's get back on the phone with GCN.

Yeah hey Ted. Hey Ted. So let's go to the rest. You ever you ever see Reagan get pegged. That it certainly helps one's career if they engage in those kind of things. Oh boy. Well I was very very prevalent. You know I lived there in the 60s 70s 80s.

A long long time into the 90s. And so I saw lots. I lived in Malibu for years. And I spent a lot of time in Beverly Hills and you know all over Los Angeles. But I saw lots. Met lots of people. Nothing surprises me. Okay.

So you think Nancy knows about this reported stuff you're talking about. Oh that's right. Nancy's not dead yet. I don't see how she could not have known. The reason I asked what color the film footage is. It's much easier back in the 70s. They'd still be using animation. It's much easier to fake a black and white.

But it goes beyond the film. You know there was other evidence I had. But you know it's not something I've talked about in all the years. Well let's get it. Bob you you're a smart cookie. You know once you talked about this you got to tell it all. So despite that I wish I never would ask the question. Now we have to get all the pus out of the wound here.

What else what's the other evidence let's get it all out. No I don't have any other evidence. Okay good. Make sure every bit is squeezed out. Okay. You know why. You know that's it. And it was my personal experience.

And it happened and that's the end of it. Alex hates Bob so much right now. And that's where we all go. I thought you were going to say he was a communist or something. I didn't. I didn't know. No but he was he was he was on the edge there. Oh man.

That is insane disappointment. So great. Also I love. Make sure you make sure you get all the evidence out here. Go for it. I don't have any more. Good. I love the turn of that clip in the sense that Alex suggests they can use animation

with black and white clips. And then maybe it's fake. It's rotoscope. And so Bob's response. Alex knows rotoscope pretty well. Sure. So Bob's response to that is it doesn't matter. I have other evidence.

It's not just about the tape. And then Alex is like what's the other evidence. I don't have any other evidence. Okay good. Bob's an asshole. Bob is an idiot. So that's the end of Alex interviewing Bob about this. But there's a coda after he's done it or Bob is still on the phone.

But they it gets really boring. Like they just there's no more. There's no there's no way to go to go up from Reagan's gay. That's going to be your tip top. And you can see and hear in the interview that they're running out of gas. There's a lot of pauses. There's Alex being like God. So they go to commercial and then they come back with this.

So the next chapter was on the prisonplanet.com forum and said is this real. And I do have the actual copy of it somewhere in my archives here. It's the headline credit card receipts and snare call boy ring inside Reagan Bush White House Washington Times. And then it came out some other newspapers and they're trying to because they don't have an IM to that computer for on air. They're trying to grab it right now to put it up. So that would add some mainstream news to what Bob Chapman was saying.

There it is. There's the actual microfilm scan of it. Show folks that again. So I'm going to read the whole headline. Please scroll back to the left side. Homosexual prostitution inquiry in snares VIPs with Reagan Bush. Call boys took midnight tour of White House. And you know even though the stuff sounds shocking.

Remember the gay everybody takes a field trip going to Bohemian Grove in the news. Remember the gay madam who was the hundreds of midnight visits into the bush. George W. Bush White House Bob Chapman. I mean really it's shocking to hear that. But then you look at all the other evidence. It's not. So there when the media goes crazy with this I just showed you a mainstream news article. I can show you more pointing the same direction.

So I'm glad that Marley ran into that because I was telling her you know search Ronald Reagan gay and that came up. So there you go Bob Chapman. There's some Washington's backup for you. Well I don't know whether I should have said anything but it's out and that's just the way it is. Fake laugh. Oh man. And as I say was a nice guy.

But everybody has there while many people have proclivities that are different than others. But it was quite an experience living for 36 years in Southern California. Yeah other things on the radar the environmentalists are going crazy all of a sudden. Great pivot. Moving on. Thanks. Thanks dude. Yeah.

Thanks for your shitty memoirs. So the main reason I wanted to keep that clip in there is the comedy of I told my sister to Google Ronald Reagan. Yeah right. That's going to get me killed although you could just Google it. Right. You could find this call boy scandal. He pulled up prison planet is our asshole PJW working for prison planet now.

Yeah of course. Paul Joseph Watson has been there since he was like 17 or something. He's been a member of Alex's team for like 16 years. Jesus. I did not know that. Yeah he's one of the originals like O.G. types. But he's in London. Prison planet was the original as I recall what I believe to be the case is prison planet

was the original website and then infowars sprung out of that. Oh OK. And Paul Joseph Watson is the editor at large of both sites and his Twitter handle is prison planet. Gotcha. So I don't know. I don't care about him at all. But so there we go.

That's going to be great. That's going to be a great time travel question. What's that. If you could go back in time and murder Paul Joseph Watson would you. It'll be great to just I mean it'll be the same conversation about Hitler even though he's not going to commit a genocide. It'll get it'll still be like there'll be a contingent that's just like make him feel less scared of everything.

That'll help. That is what seems to motivate Paul Joseph Watson to a extreme degree is just intense fear of everything. But be that as it may Ronald Reagan is gay and a secretive organization held screenings that they don't warn people. That's what they're going to watch. And they. Well you can't warn people.

No of course then you wouldn't go. Well I would definitely still go but I would I would definitely tell a lot more of my friends. Let me be clear. I'd be like hey I'm going to see Reagan get pegged. Do you want to come on with. You I don't think you could get a plus one. I think you would want to crash a Reagan getting pegged viewing party. Let me be perfectly clear.

If I got a weird invitation in the mail and it said we cordially invite you to a screening of a video of LBJ getting pegged and there will be hot dogs and there will be food and drink. You know there would have to be thematically appropriate food there as well. I really just want a chili dog right about now. That's really where I'm at. So if they said you know food and drink will be taken care of it'll be at a private gala. I would open bar.

I would be much more likely to go than if someone said there's an interesting film. You should see because that's an invitation. I can turn down seven days a week. That's true. I turned down all sorts of invitations like that. I go we should go go see baby driver. You want to come. It is a great film.

Fine. Do you want to go see it. No. Damn it. I'm sure I could catch you. I'm sure it's great but I'm not I can I see it later. You know I can't see a film of LBJ getting pegged later. Well Google LBJ gay.

Apparently that's all you need to do. Find some mainstream news. So at this point I'd like to say once again thank you Charles for donating to the show and for bringing this to our attention. I knew that this was something that had happened but I did not know the date and that being pinpointed was a great delight and this is a real fun escape from shitty Alex Jones. Yes. Thank you so much.

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Go to iTunes subscribe. We like it when people subscribe. Indeed. Tell your friends each one teach one something along those lines. Now that we got now that we got the explosive scoop that was you know the six year old Alex Jones scoop. Right. Yeah.

Absolutely. And of course the 20 year old Harper's magazine scoop or whatever it was and the or the Washington Times and the 40 year old Bob Chapman scoop. Yeah. So yeah we're definitely poised to make it big on this one. Oh yeah. This is the type of shit that's going to shoot us to the top. Damn.

Indeed indeed. You know what actually I did a little bit of research because it's so weird this idea of this group of people who are at this this private soiree. And I can't figure out who I thought you were about to say that you watched a lot of pegging videos in preparation for that too. Okay good. But I'm not able to just like we've all been watching a lot of cuckold episodes. Sure.

There were like 18 people there cuckold episodes. That's what I call it. Sure. Pornographic episodes. Yeah. I like I like mine with an overarching story. Serialized. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. So there's 18 people there at this party and we know that Bob Chapman is one of them. Right. I cannot figure out who 16 of them are but I found out one of the other attendees. Okay. Of this this party watching Nixon and Nixon Reagan get pegged. All right.

So does the timelines or the timelines match up. Like are we talking about similar aged folk. A hundred percent. Would they have been around the same area at that time. I believe so. Yes. Were they both big fans of Reagan. Uh hard to say.

But I will say this other guy. He has dentures. Oh so. Okay. All right. I see where you're going. You can you get where I'm going with this. Yeah.

His name is John Rep. I'm making all this up but at the same time John Rapaport can go fuck himself. John Rapaport go get pegged. Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex I'm a first time caller I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.