Knowledge Fight - #753: December 1, 2022

Episode Date: December 3, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the monumental day when Ye and Nick Fuentes brought very explicit antisemitism and holocaust denial to Infowars. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. Sit around. Where should we put the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones? Oh, indeed. We are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today. This is not my bright spot, but just as a matter of context, you know this already, but yay, formerly known as Kanye West was on Info
Starting point is 00:01:22 Wars on Thursday. Yeah, it appears that way. December 1st. And that's what we're going to be talking about today. But because of this, I ended up thinking about like, what's my history with Yay's music like? Sure. I was never a huge Kanye West fan in terms of the music. Right. I thought like, you know, I hear some of the songs on the radio, like Jesus walks. Sure. That's fine. That's good stuff. I think that toast to the asshole song was maybe a searching moment of like a pop song. Sure. Like he was taking the piss out of himself in a way that I realized probably wasn't sincere. Right. Right. In hindsight. Well, I don't know how much of what was that on? What was that? Dark Twisted Fantasy? I don't know how much of that was a genuine soul searching, especially
Starting point is 00:02:08 now. I realized like the first time that he came into my orbit or my sphere was when he was a guest on the dilated people's song This Way. Interesting. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That was the first time. Yeah. Bananas. I guess probably I'd heard of him maybe as a producer or something like that prior to that because I realized that was on Neighborhood Watch. Right. Right. Right. Their third album. Right. And so like, but, but I was thinking about that. I was like, man, I haven't heard the dilated people's in a long time. When was that 2004? I was going to say, how did you not hear of it? That'd be the blueprint, my man. I also wasn't that huge of a JZ fan. Well, it's not like listening to albums like multiple times. Sure. I get what you say. I get what I liked. I get where
Starting point is 00:02:52 you're at. I'm not defending what I liked as great. I'm not fighting you. Fine. So anyway, I went back and I listened to the dilated people's and I enjoy that stuff. Yeah, it was pretty good. Nice. That's a good bright spot. Yeah. Well, I was working on some of this stuff to prepare the episode. I was listening to a little bit of the platform and expansion team. Yeah. Good solid albums. I don't know what happened to them later. I don't want to find out just in case. Yeah. Oh, boy. There was one song. I can't remember which album it's on, but that's featuring the alcoholics. The licks. Okay. Okay. One of them has a great, great lyric. Batman can't walk through my hood. There's no love. Tashel, Jack him for his cape and sport that shit to the club.
Starting point is 00:03:39 That's pretty great. That's great. That is pretty great. Anyway, what's your bright spot? What was my bright spot? I forgot in the in the length of time that you. Oh, no, my bright spot is my wife and I. We're enjoyers of the amazing race. Sure. It's a big where you got me on it a little bit. Yeah. Great show. I love travel and that's my favorite thing to do, you know? Yeah. And the final, the second to last episode, we watched it and there's this team of long lost twins. Oh, no. And I can't not be in love with long lost twins. How do you not? Especially when they're forced together in the journey. Oh, and they just love each other so much. Like it's crazy how much I'm in on the long lost twins team. Let me ask you a small
Starting point is 00:04:29 clarification. Did they reconnect before the show or is the show their reconnection? They found each other like right before the show. Okay. And then the show was there like we're getting out of our normal everyday lives and we're just going to connect us long lost. Hey, long lost twin here guaranteed casting. We're getting through. Exactly. Yes. Long lost twins wins every time. Yeah. If they met like 10 years prior, then it might not have as much of the not as much fun. Yeah. No, which is very cynical. Yeah. Well, I'm looking at it from like an entertainment TV show perspective. Right. Right. Right. Want them to learn. Right. Of course. So yeah, they were in the last place. One of them knee injury. She's hobbling. Right. Last second they come in third.
Starting point is 00:05:19 They qualify for the final. Nice. Oh, it was just a great moment. It'd be awesome if some other team gave them a roadblock. These long lost twins. How do you not root for long lost? I mean, they're long lost twins. Come on. True. All right. I do enjoy travel as well. And I appreciate you selling me on the show. Although I do think there is something slightly not great about it in as much as they're like jumping from location to location. Yeah. There's not enough time to like really appreciate all of the places they're traveling to. Right. Right. Right. But still you get to see a lot of great stuff and a lot of well in the last episode, they were in Iceland and they Iceland's a very small island. Sure. So you were there. And I was
Starting point is 00:06:01 there. So my wife and I are watching it and just going like we're there. That was remember that. And then we're showing each other pictures of us. It was great. It was a fantastic time. I've had that experience watching some things like that go to Hawaii. Yeah. Yeah. I know that. So Jordan today, we're going to be talking about December 1st, 2022, the day that Yay went on Info Wars. Yeah. I've been listening. You know, I wrote back in the day, whenever we had a terrible website, me and Elfring and Drufki and Jack Baker and Prince. The Suburbs Comedy Crew. Suburbs Comedy Crew. I wrote this thing. I had this little thing that I called 50 Spins, where I would listen to an album 50 times and then really get into each individual track.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Sure. You know, like that. And I did both Twisted Fantasy and Life of Pablo. And so I was listening to that today and I was really like, you know what? I'm excited because I know Kanye's on, but I don't know what the content is. Sure. We should, we should be clear about that. Yeah. You only know that Kanye was on or Yay was on. Yeah. You don't know anything about. No. You turned off the internet. I legitimately turned on that. I opened the browser at one yesterday. It said Kanye was on and I was like, good night. And I have not seen the internet since. I'm sorry. I interrupted. And so I'm excited because those albums really, I think, prove to me that he's coming back. Like this is going to be the interview where he takes it all
Starting point is 00:07:26 back. He reveals that this is a performance stunt. Like he's going to do the whole thing. He apologizes to Tim Pool. Absolutely. We're going to love him again. This is what it's going to be. I'm excited. Jordan. Anyway, we'll see if that's the case. It's not. But before we get into all this business, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, the future X Mrs. Alex Jones. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, drunken Irishman, a.k.a. a perfect tool, a.k.a. Grandmaster Squatch and the sneaky ham thieving snakes. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Nick loves jewels and this policy
Starting point is 00:08:06 walk shout out will echo through the internet as an immutable monument to that love forevermore, forevermore. All caps. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Loki, the best spectacly pup for the third anniversary of his adoption. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Also, sorry, that's late. Next, not hatch. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And Tucker parent, parenthetically, the good one, not Carlson. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. And we got a technocrat in the mix, George. So thank you so much to thanks for all the fish
Starting point is 00:08:45 and whistleblowers. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy walk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser, little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much. So Jordan, in cases like this, I often try to, you know, come up with some opening thoughts and some, some introductory comments. And I kind of failed to come up with anything. It was really difficult to come up with a synthesis or a real point here. Right. Right. Right. That we won't, we'll get to all of it as we go through it,
Starting point is 00:09:34 but there's nothing I can really say other than yay showed up. Yeah. After storming out of Tim Poole's show for Tim Poole, not agreeing that they means the Jews. Right. And here we are. And here we are. We know Alex is not great. Right. At interviews. True. He's clearly in a subservient state. He's flanked by yay on one side. Nick Fuentes on the other. Right. Right. And it's just, I mean, it's a train wreck. This is just bad. It's bad on a hundred levels. And one thing that I think, I guess if I had to give an introduction, it would be that I've seen a lot of people talking about this and giving takes and they're all wrong, but they're also all right. Sure. That is where we exist in. Yeah. You know, there is a, hey,
Starting point is 00:10:26 yay says a bunch of terrible stuff. Absolutely correct. Also incorrect in as much as there's, there's also things that some people are missing that are really bad as well. There's, it's worse than, than just bad stuff. Yeah. No, I, I, when I opened the internet and saw that Kanye was on, I, I stopped and I closed it, not least of which because I, I just can't ever believe that anyone in the media will listen to our how not to cover Alex Jones episodes. And so the amount of failure and embarrassment I'm expecting from them is staggering. Well, and, and, and the other thing that plays into that is there's this like even Alex is like put off by, you know, there's some of that. Yeah. And I think that there is a little bit of that, but larger picture, there's a context
Starting point is 00:11:17 in which he is put off and gives pushback. Yeah. And I think that that dynamic is something that is being missed by a lot of commentating on this. So that's something that I'd like to pay attention to as we, as we go through this. But first, before we get into anything, here's an out of context drop. Oh boy. I'm just kind of not, I'm not on the whole Jew thing. Oh, I'm not on the whole Jew thing. And you can see how like he's, uh, you know, struggling to, uh, you know, just put that into, uh, is my, look, man, I'm not into the whole. Hey, hey, hey, hey, maybe that's you, but that ain't me, man. So here we go. We start off, um, I should say, uh, just for a little bit of a context, uh, yeah, is wearing a full face mask. Sure. Like a balaclava, but with no eye holes
Starting point is 00:12:11 and, uh, it's just a black mask, cloth mask. Like he's a stagehand in a Broadway show. Uh, yeah, I guess so. Okay. All right. So he's invisible. The whole show, the whole show, completely invisible. I can't see him. Okay. It's a little bit off-putting just, uh, just right out of the gate. 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,600 And many others are also going to be coming through here today. And yay has arrived in, uh, a new ensemble here with us, but I'll assure you it is a yay. Yay. Thank you so much for coming to Austin. Thank you. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:13:05 But what would you like to start this first little five minute segment? Uh, is, is, is kind of a prelude to what's coming up. What do you want to cover today? This God runs the world and Jesus is the way and life. And it's time to put Jesus first in the way that we run our businesses, the way we, the way we run our families, our businesses and the way we run our country. Of course. You're radio listeners. We're on over 400 radio stations. They can't see you right now. You're, you're, this is a new look for you. Oh no, I've been wearing a mask for a while. Yeah. This is an archetypal example of the masses off by putting the mask on.
Starting point is 00:13:47 People can take it how they, how they want to take it. Yeah. So he's wearing a full face, uh, cloth mask. It's weird, but honestly, I don't really care if there's some kind of artistic meaning behind it. There really isn't any point in saying he's going mask off because that mask's been off for a while now. And I guess he could be aiming for something along the lines of like rejecting his own celebrity and making himself appear to be an anonymous blank slate. But even if that's the point, it's dumb because if he were just any random person making the statements he has been, no one would pay him any attention. The only reason no one's kicked his ass yet is because
Starting point is 00:14:21 he's yay. Ironically, his celebrity status grants him the privilege to say this bullshit and people actually pay attention to it. It seems like his main goal here is to say that we need to center things on Jesus. And that's all good and well to a point to say that people should put Jesus first in their homes is kind of an opinion that doesn't work for everyone, but it's not a problem so long as it's not something that's being imposed on people. Suggesting that businesses and our country should operate in some religious fashion, however, is antithetical to the United States and our Constitution that Alex claims to love. That isn't a problem for Nick and Ye, though. They want to be a part of a Christian fascism that's completely disconnected from the liberalism
Starting point is 00:15:03 that values things like freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and free association. It's unclear how much Alex is aware of that, but the people he's talking to say things that he likes about God, but they're advocates for a system that would completely destroy all of the things about America that he pretends to love. Anyway, this is possibly as innocuous as Ye could have started off the interview and already he's saying something pretty fucked up that Alex should push back on, but doesn't. Right. I'll say this. One, not concerned about Christian fascism so much because I was reminded that if that were the case, then banks wouldn't be able to charge interest, so I'm sure that they would kill whomever got in their way. I'm not concerned there. And two,
Starting point is 00:15:49 pussier riot. Pussier riot. Okay. Pussier riot. Do you see what I'm doing there? Yeah. Pussy. Yeah. Right. I apologize that I didn't grasp that immediately. I'm on a, I'm on a light amount of sleep. Yeah. I don't know. I forgive you, but I'm pretty proud of that one. So look, there's a lot of stuff that comes off as kind of non-secretary. Sure. And that's just the nature of having a talk on a mic. Right. And this is a little bit of that. People can take it how they, how they want to take it. It's just, you know, it's interesting if you look at a Michael Jordan or something, you would load up all these pictures and he's smiling and he's holding a basketball. He's jumping from the free throw line. And then you look at
Starting point is 00:16:37 field night and you barely can see a picture of him and he's got his face covered. So I don't have to show my face. It's me. What? That's my, that's my right. Absolutely. Well, that's, that's, that's what Hollywood wants to do though, is to control everybody's images. Exactly. So I'm in control of my image now. That's stupid. Yeah. Phil Knight is the co-founder of Nike and there's tons of pictures of him smiling that you can find online very easily. I just don't know. Yeah, sure. I will say that there aren't pictures of him dunking from the free throw line, but that might just be a skill problem. That is an issue. Although Phil Knight was apparently quite an athlete back in his day, although he is that day was 50 years ago.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Probably a ways back, probably a ways back. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, Jordan had a Hitler stash. So you never know, you never know where things are going to land. It's true. And I bet Jordan couldn't dunk from the free throw line now. Well, maybe not. I'm worried that honestly, only because you said that, he will hear it and go, I will fucking dunk from the free throw line. Yeah. Cause Dan Friesen said I couldn't do it. Yeah. He's crazy. Yeah. So look, there's, there's just, like I said, it goes all over the place. Right out of the gate. Ye decides to touch on the issue of everybody being very mad about pedophilia related issues. Yeah. Good start. And I think he has a bad take. Oh, you know, like one of the big topics right
Starting point is 00:18:01 now is all of the pedophilia advertisement. And my take on that is, you know, there's one place in the Bible where it says God sees sin differently. And there's another place where it says, uh, yeah, let me get out my phone. I can like really pull up the exact thing it says in the Bible. The general get your Bible out to it after the five minute break is take his phone away. You have Jesus didn't have phones. Stay strict to everything and remove as much thin as possible in order to serve God. And when people look at pornography, when a, when a grown man is looking at a grown woman, have sex on camera, you're still looking at someone's daughter and you're looking at a lot of times someone that is the product of pedophilia.
Starting point is 00:18:51 So people will engage in going to strip clubs or look at a pornography, but then they, the moral compass is like, Oh my God, look at the pedophiles. But in a way, anybody who looks at pornography is a form of a, of a pedophile. Also, let's, let's bang it all in. It's very simple. We're not going to be talking about all this moral code and these standards right here is either Christ said so or Christ said no. Yeah. Powerful information. I totally agree. We'll leave you back in 60 seconds. Powerful information. Can I, Hey, quick question. Christ, uh, where do you stand on VR? Uh, can I have virtual reality sex? Does that count? Christ said no. What? Uh, it's in Deuteronomy. There we go. So this stuff that yeah is saying is not a new idea necessarily,
Starting point is 00:19:42 but it's one that's pretty important to push back on. The first thing that merits pointing out is that it means nothing to say that a person in a porn film is someone's daughter. That's just a way for you to couch a rigidly paternalistic and misogynistic view of the world into a form where he can present it as if it's based on some kind of like a sincere concern or care for another person instead of what it is a lust for control over other people's lives. Yeah. The tell here is that he doesn't say that male actors in pornography are someone's son. That isn't part of this because at its core, it's really just a desire to exert control over women. Yeah. In 2013, the Journal of Sex Research published a study titled pornography actresses
Starting point is 00:20:23 an assessment of the damaged goods hypothesis. This was a name given to a theory that higher rates of drug abuse, childhood abuse and overall psychological problems led to women gravitating towards pornographic work. The study took the histories of 177 women in adult entertainment and 177 women not in that field and ultimately concluded that the two groups did not have a difference in terms of childhood abuse. What Ye is saying has no connection to reality in the big picture. There are certainly people in pornography who are survivors of childhood abuse. That's a truth of people in journalism, marketing or any other field. Now, if Ye cared at all about this issue, the angle he could be taking is to discuss the abuse that happens within the adult industry.
Starting point is 00:21:07 But that's a larger issue that I'm not entirely confident I can cover appropriately, perhaps another day. And Ye doesn't seem to care about that all that much at all. Yeah. The point here is that Ye is coming out of the gate hot with a complaint that feels different than his recent anti-Semitic outbursts, but it's actually not. People like E. Michael Jones, who Nick Fuentes is a follower of, have been very public that they believe that pornography is a Jewish weapon against Christian society. So this is actually more on theme than it might appear to be. And Alex isn't picking up on these threads or if he is, he's not pulling on them at all. Ye is just presenting this in a way that masks that underlying point. And so that made it just, it comes off as if he's
Starting point is 00:21:48 like, Oh, you are, you care. Yeah. No, I mean, it's easier to look at a porn industry and be like, Oh, see, look at all this thing, because you can, you can process the abuse against women in a way that allows you to kind of internalize this. Well, they may be their kind of where they should be point of view as opposed to dealing with the fact that all women in all jobs everywhere are subject to violence just by virtue of being women. And more than 40% of them will experience it at some point in their life, regardless of what you do. So yeah, we're maybe deal with the big problem. But no, I think we should control their ability to do and say anything. And I think, I think that there is a, an element of this that is definitely rooted in these anti-Semitic
Starting point is 00:22:38 narratives that people like E. Michael Jones and Nick Fuentes perpetuate. But I think that there's another thread that relates to pornography that will sort of become more and more clear as this interview goes on that it makes me a little bit worried. But hey, there's worse things in this interview. So hey, you know, you know, don't miss the forest for the trees. So, you know, we're clearly talking about Bibles and Bible stuff. You said you're upset. He has his phone. He also has a Bible. Okay, good. Yeah. Well, now I'm feeling better. Yeah. So anyway, Gabe decides to read like a verse from Proverbs. Wait, how he's got his eyes covered in that ball of clava. Yeah, but I think maybe it's one you could still see through. I don't think he's
Starting point is 00:23:23 blind. I think they shut up. Let's be clear. Bad idea to wear a full face mask when you're recording an audio thing. That's just you're a little bit muffled. It's tough to understand. Yeah. Some stations don't carry the first five, but you just dropped some bombs that I totally agree that are huge. Yeah. So recap that and continue on, sir. Okay. So I looked this up. It's about sin. That's what we're going to talk about sin today. For the wages of sin is death. Do everything that we can. We're imperfect, but to flee to free ourselves of sin and repent for sin throughout the day at night and in the morning. So right here, the Bible says right here. I know I'm going to do Corinthians two like Trump, you know, new, new Christian kind of reading of this. So
Starting point is 00:24:10 bear with me. I love Jesus. But I'm not the most, you know, experienced Christian. Then shut the fuck up about it. Six 16 dash 19. I'm sure that's the wrong way to read it. It's okay. You got the floor. Okay. Identify seven things that God hates. Although there are not any punishments prescribed for those scripture clearly indicates that God does view sin differently. And that he prescribed he he proscribed. He proscribed a different punishment for sin, depending upon its severity. Now watch this one. You get a little sense of a little bit of insight about what's going on in this clip, but I need to stress this. I'm never going to take religious advice from a new convert to anything. Now, if I need help understanding what a particular holy
Starting point is 00:25:02 text says or what a religion is about, I'm going to talk to somebody who studied it or someone who has a lot of time under their belt. Interesting. The last person I think is a decent source is someone who is clearly in the grips of a public meltdown who's recently adopted a new religion and has decided they figured it all out and they need to scream about it. It is an issue when that happens. Yeah, enthusiastic, but maybe not all that helpful. Oh man, you know, there's nothing better than a real brand new evangelical Christian. They're not annoying at all. So yeah, he is not reading a verse in Proverbs. He's clearly reading some article about this verse or maybe a blurb in like a study Bible. The verse says, quote, there are six things the Lord hates seven that
Starting point is 00:25:42 are detestable to him, haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community. The only thing I think of when I read that verse is how guilty Alex is of so many of those things. He's a complete liar. He crafts wicked schemes constantly. He bore false witness in his own trial and his actions do little more than stir up conflict in the community constantly. True. If you were serious about this at all, this appearance should be him confronting Alex about all this, but that's not what this is about. It's, I don't know. I mean, here's my problem quite simply. How do you not stop and think,
Starting point is 00:26:31 wait a second. Am I, am I supposed to believe that the God who created the universe also wastes his time coming up with individual punishments for random sins? Sure. Okay. He's got all the time. I date a God is a thousand years. Well, sure. But I mean, like, is that because he's bored? And if you have a bored God, I want a different God. I do not want a God that gets bored because when I get bored, shit starts getting weird. You end up on it. Exactly. No, bored gods. So yeah, he goes on to turn into swans and fuck a lady. He talks a little bit more about this sin issue. Sure. And I found this interesting. Okay. Now watch this one. It says, where the phrase, all sins are equal in the eyes of God comes from. As far as I can tell,
Starting point is 00:27:23 the most common argument for the belief that all sins are created equal comes from the book of James 210. It states, for whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. Now, I'm a big fan of Steve Jobs, even though he did create Apple. Stop right there. And if you notice the logo of Apple is actually the fall of men, the forbidden fruit, the bitten apple. Yeah, right. So we can get into, you know, what what social media has done to families and all that. We can get three hours, right? I could tell at that point that yay was reading from something. So I decided to try and track down the exact phrasing that he was saying. And it matched one website word for word. He's reading
Starting point is 00:28:10 from a blog post on a site called equipping godly women website for quote, busy Christian moms written by a woman named Brittany Ann. No shade on Brittany, but this isn't a source you'd pull from if you had a high minded and serious interest in discussing whether or not God believes all sins are equal from a theological perspective. This is honestly a pathetic display. And it's not because it's someone who's early in their Christianity, but it's because it's someone who's profoundly unserious about this and is going on a, you know, national radio show, TV show hosted by a real piece of shit and expounding on this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What a weird thing to do. Yeah. What a strange, strange thing to do. Like stepping back from the awfulness of it,
Starting point is 00:28:58 just as a decision tree, you know, like the number of decisions that leads you to this point, that's a lot of bad ones. Like that's at least 40 or 50 bad decisions in a row. Like you could flip a coin, somebody convinced him to flip a coin with all decisions and we'll get 50 that are better. Well, at least 25. Well, yeah, 50% that are better. Yeah. Nope. All bad decisions as we'll continue to be the case. So like I told you, he seems pretty mad at pornography and he is a little illuminating. We have a mission right now to save our families from social media, from Zionist control and bring Jesus Christ back to the forefront. And we're protected. You know, I don't have security. My security is the angels. My security is the fact that I didn't load up pornography
Starting point is 00:29:53 last night. And I said this addiction is going to have to flee from me. There it is. You know, this addiction since I was five years old, I destroyed my mom and my dad's family that destroyed my family. Like when I take full accountability for the destruction like of my marriage, when I I'll point at the liberals and say, you took my wife from me, you know, it took my wife from me, the fact that I was married to this beautiful person. But I felt like it wasn't enough. I felt like I still needed to look at pornography. And some way I'd say to her, well, stop making these images, stop breaking the internet. You know, that original term comes from my ex-wife actually having a nude photo that I didn't know about that someone used her and put it on a magazine.
Starting point is 00:30:35 But there's somewhere where she's like, well, if my husband, I got bad news for you. I still want to be like the girls that are doing this and this becomes people reliving the traumas, pushing the addiction. The pornography industry is not even a big industry. It's like less than 10 billion dollars, right? So that means that it's not used for prosperity. It's used for disparity. What? A couple quick points here. Sure. If pornography ruined Ye's marriage, that's Ye's fault, not the porn. You bet. Even if we grant that he was addicted to the stuff, that's still his issue. The dude just sounds like an angry loser who wants anyone else to be responsible for the situation he's in other than himself. The way Ye is talking sounds intensely abusive.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And I can totally understand Kim leaving. He's claiming that he has a problem with porno and his way of thinking he can deal with it is to exert control over how his wife appears publicly. She won't let him control her. And thus it's her fault that he can't stop with his porn addiction somehow. Yeah. He's so averse to correctly assigning responsibility that he has to insinuate that Kim was like duped into that picture. It was a paced magazine, I believe that break the internet article. I don't give a shit about a Kardashian. That's absurd. But in order for him to preserve the image of Kim as a good person and not part of the evil system that he's up against, she has to have her agency stripped away from her. And Ye has to not have been aware of that
Starting point is 00:31:56 photo shoot. It's just childish shit all around. And these are the kinds of issues that could really be helped with therapy. So much of this is ego based nonsense. And unfortunately, to confront these kinds of issues, you do need to approach them with a little bit of humility. And that just seems impossible for you at this point. Yeah. It's I mean, it must be tough to have humility when the world was like, you're the greatest ever. That's tough. I recognize that that'll make a person go a little bit insane. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. When you get away with like calling yourself Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. People are like, well, yeah, sounds good. Yeah. I feel I feel like a maybe culture enabled. Yeah. It's a little bit. Yeah, I can't I can barely take a compliment. And that
Starting point is 00:32:45 dude was getting you're the greatest human being alive. Shit. Yeah. No, I get it. I get why he's crazy. So people say that Ye is anti-Semitic. People say no, he is that Nick Fuentes is a white supremacist. You know, it's fun. I think the only thing that they really have in common is saying the N word more than a million times in private. Hmm. Well, and that they're Christians. Sure. There is I want to make people have heard from Nick, but he people haven't heard from Nick with yay standing right next to him, you know, it's like, that's the thing that the Zionist control the 300 in control of the media and control of the government. They didn't want us to connect to each other. Like my dad said, okay, they say you're anti-Semitic, but they say he's
Starting point is 00:33:36 a white supremacist. And he's asking me, well, what's the difference? I said that there is no difference. It's just separation and that's actually an interesting thought to separate and confuse the Christians and make us afraid to stand next to each other. A Christian can stand next to anyone. We can go visit artillery in prison. We can go talk to Harvey Weinstein. That's what Jesus did. Yes, because Jesus go to Jerusalem with weapons, but if the Zionists can get us so afraid that they're going to do what they've been doing to me, attempting to put me in jail, freeze my accounts, smearing me on the media, you know, all of these things, you know, you put on the whole armor of God and they will not be able to break your spirit. So it's really
Starting point is 00:34:25 important to get clear from the jump that yeah, he isn't using Zionist in any context that it doesn't just mean Jewish people. This isn't someone who's making criticisms of the state of Israel. For instance, in terms of the treatments of Palestinians, it's just someone using disingenuous language to make his anti-Semitism a little less transparent. Yeah. Also, there's no contradiction between Yay's positions and Nick's. Nick is an anti-Semite too. Yeah. He doesn't like non-white people, but a black man who's one of the biggest stars in the world who's shouting anti-Semitic shit at every opportunity. It isn't a high priority for Nick's hate. He's generally more concerned about immigrants and birth rates of white people and the disenfranchisement of minority voters,
Starting point is 00:35:06 at least as primary racism-based concerns for him. Yeah. Those are his primary issues. And yet Jesus did go hang out with marginalized folks in his time, like sex workers and tax collectors, but he didn't go to the tax collector and then spend the rest of his career yelling about some idiotic shit the tax collector told him. There's a little bit of a difference in terms of the goal of hanging out with creeps. Yeah. He also didn't go to the sex worker and say that you shouldn't be allowed to do anything that you want and you got tricked into doing this, and I don't think you have any agency and you should work for me. Right. Didn't do that. He was like, Hey, you're a good person. Right. How about you? I guess Yay could go and like evangelize
Starting point is 00:35:50 to R. Kelly in prison, but he'd just go and like, Free R. Kelly. Yeah. I don't. Hell's got set up. Yeah. Yeah. That's a little different to how Jesus might approach these things. He could try doing that for non famous people. What if he did like, and I'm going to throw this out there now, maybe, maybe he's very insincere about his bullshit, partly because he is only concerned with other famous people and regular people do not exist to him. You know what? That may or may not be the case, but in terms of an interview like this, I'm going to give it a pass because you need frames of reference. Sure. And you can only really name famous people in order to make your points, but you're probably right. Yeah. So Alex is noticing some of this.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Maybe Jewish talk coming up noticing a little bit early just there. And maybe he's like, I gotta, I gotta cut this off at the past. Oh my God. Did he not watch the temple? Never mind. Of course he didn't. It was 20 minutes. He doesn't have time for that. Yeah, of course. So he tries to do a little bit of his little Nazi deflections. Sure. That's fun. So where do you want to start? Well, I mean, I would just start with this. There are good people from every group and every type of culture and we all know that, but definitely the left when it was America defeated Hitler calls their opposition Hitler when both my grandfather's almost died in the Army Air Corps, both of them almost died. One of them crash landed after a mission and got all broke up.
Starting point is 00:37:14 The other one got hit in a German air raid in North Africa and he'd only done like 18 of his missions and then he had a concussion and he was the captain and then his buddies went up the next day and blew up over Italy. He was always freaked out, but I never really talked about till he died, but when he died, we read the letters and all the awards he had and stuff and the things he did after that and then, you know, re-upping and recommitting to the Army Air Corps. So I take it as an offense to have George Soros and people that actually work for Hitler rounding up people, tell me I'm a Nazi when I almost don't exist, but my grandfathers went over there. So I got a lot to say about this. Ooh, so close. It's just nuanced with the whole thing that's going on,
Starting point is 00:37:48 but expanding on that. Yay. Give us, because I want you to go wherever you want. So just let's just have you talk for 10, 15 minutes more before me and me. Why? We got a lot to hear from Foynter. Why? We heard, but we want to hear from Yay. Go ahead. So this is really sad because I think that Alex thinks that this is going to be effective in cutting off the anti-Semitic stuff before it even comes up. He really thinks that saying that he almost doesn't exist because the Nazis and throwing out this bland ass Soros lie is going to set the table where Yay can be presented as somebody who's saying controversial things, but is being unfairly smeared by the ADL and Soros. He clearly hasn't been paying close enough attention to what's going on if he thinks
Starting point is 00:38:28 that because Yay doesn't give a shit about any of that. And it's not going to stop him from saying the shit he's going to say. If anything, saying that Soros worked for Hitler may be a compliment in Yay's eyes at this point. Hopefully. Alex, like Tim Poole before him, wants to have his cake and eat it too. He's so used to dealing with a completely different sort of figure because he mostly just swims in the waters of right-wing scam artists who are trying to use his platform to grow their own scams. Right. He almost exclusively works with con artists who have extreme right-wing politics they want to advance but are also really worried about doing things that will hurt their ability to run their scams. He's used to people who will equivocate or will accept his framing of
Starting point is 00:39:07 their own fucked up comments. What Alex is doing here is giving Yay a template for how to proceed. He's trying to usher him into a territory of anti-Semitic dialogue that won't get you in trouble because Alex knows that Yay is spouting straight up anti-Semitism, but that isn't something Alex can profit off of without altering his position in the market. Becoming more like Yay would involve scaring off older, more normie members of his audience and without them, the pill sales crater and he can't pay overhead on his expensive ass studio. Yeah. But if Yay can moderate his position, they can make some money together and Yay can still be super anti-Semitic. Alex is trying to present him with a way to bake in plausible deniability seemingly unaware that
Starting point is 00:39:51 Yay isn't denying any of the shit except the Holocaust. Yeah. We'll get to that a little later. Of course he denies the Holocaust. Come on. Alex has every reason to think that this would work. Yay is there with Nick and Alex has had to do this with Nick in the past. I know for a fact that Alex was fully aware of Nick's white nationalism and neo-nazi beliefs as early as CPAC 2020 and he didn't care. He had Nick on repeatedly, gave him his own channel on Bandod Video and went on tour with him on the Stop the Steel Crusade and all of that was possible because Nick played along with Alex's moderation language. But the thing is that Nick was playing along strategically. He was following the exact plan that we heard him lay out on our last episode where he wasn't showing
Starting point is 00:40:34 his true ideology publicly because he needed to be a more acceptable face to closer the mainstream folks could accept. Right. And then he could drop all the red pills he wanted when the time was right. Alex willingly or not probably willingly fell for that and this is the end result of that. Yeah. These are the fruits of letting a hyper-competent charismatic Nazi hijack your platform. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, let's see that. I mean, Lindbergh did it. So that was good. You know, we've got precedent. Not the first time that somebody who loves Hitlers run for president. I mean, what? You know, what is this? The New York Times in 1936. Come on. How bad it could it be? Right. So it turns out there's a, you know, we know the team is Nick, Milo and Yay.
Starting point is 00:41:29 We know that from the Tim Poole interview. But it turns out this is a deeper crew than we realized. Sure. It turns out Ali Alexander is a bit involved in this in ways that were not clear previously. Was Yay wearing a balaclava on January 6th? Does anybody know where Yay was? I can't confirm or deny anything. Oh man. But I do know that they're a SWAT team of truth. Great. Well, I said with Ali Alexander and Nick Fuentes that we're like the SWAT team of free thought. And I go in with this battle ram at the door and then they come in with these laser beams and have that information. And we work together as a team. A lot of times in media, they want to single out one person and burn them to the core. That is a Zionist approach. And they're asking me
Starting point is 00:42:17 to do that same approach. Well, hey, don't say all people just say specifically the businessmen. And then I go on Lex Freeman and I say who it's specifically and I still not enough. They're still taking it too far. Everyone knows and agrees now that it's like a reverse version of American history X to scene when they put the guy's head against the curve and kick the back of it. And now people are like, the curve is kicking the foot. The so-called crime doesn't deserve the punishment. What did I thought? That's right. You're not Hitler. You're not a Nazi. You don't deserve to be called that and demonized. Well, I I'm sorry. What I see good things about Hitler also. Sure. I love everyone and Jewish people are not going to tell me you can
Starting point is 00:43:06 you know us and you can love what we're doing to you with the contracts and you can love what you know what we're pushing with the pornography. But this guy that invented highways invented the very microphone that I use as a musician. What can't say out loud that this person ever did anything good. And I'm done with that. So yeah, I guess Ali is part of the team. And it's a real solid team of losers that yeah, he's putting together and who Nellie. So you see here, yeah, airing some of the same grievances he aired in other appearances and even making the same American history X analogy that he made on Tim Poole's show. It's all stupid, very rudimentary, anti-Semitic talking points. But what bears a little more attention is how
Starting point is 00:43:48 Alex is once again trying to give you a advice in form of in the form of reframing a point he's making to make it plausibly acceptable to a wider audience. Alex is trying to give you the out that he was just saying things and it's free speech and it's not like he's a Nazi or anything. And then in response, yeah, he says Hitler did a bunch of good stuff like how he invented things that he totally didn't invent. Alex is not ready for this because it's supposed to be a full show interview and less than half an hour in, yeah, has rebuffed his attempts to make the disgusting anti-Semitic shit he's saying more acceptable to the audience and in fact has doubled down and made his statements worse. Alex should know that this is now going this is going to be a long day.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Yeah, Alex is like, wait, hold on. Does yeah, not understand that you're supposed to compromise your beliefs for money. I don't understand what's going on here. This is bonkers. Well, you know, the world has gone mad. There's this interesting dynamic where Alex is like you got to compromise these things and and sort of negotiate this territory for money. Right. And Nick is like, you got to know you got to compromise and negotiate your positions in order to be able to be worse later. Right. Right. He's just like, fuck that and hot. These are good. No, I think I think Fuentes is loving this shit. I would love so. Yeah, I would assume so. One, he gets to ride the coattails of the blackface of white supremacy and two, who really cares about him? Everybody
Starting point is 00:45:19 cares about yay. So when yay stops, he's got a higher profile, except here's the problem. All right. There is no yay to Hitler pipeline. I'm sorry. I don't care how good dark fantasy is. No one who likes Kanye's music is going to be like, well, I mean, if this guy likes Hitler, clearly that's the way to go. Uh-uh. No Hitler. No yay to Hitler pipeline. That's too far. I don't know, man. That's too far. I think that. Okay. Yeah. Here's what I would say. I'm not positive that there is a direct one and then the other. Right. Right. There is a roundabout way that this stuff that that yay is putting forth leads down a road towards him. See, I think that's the interesting thing. Yay's not doing the roundabout way that would lead towards Hitler. Yay is going
Starting point is 00:46:13 straight to Hitler. Well, he is hiling up and saying, come on, baby. But this goes back to what he was saying about Ali Alexander, Nick and him being the SWAT team and the metaphor that he's making is that he's like the, the battering ram that comes in and then Nick is more like a sniper. Right. And does the more precise work. Right. And within that metaphor, he can go straight to Hitler and it's still not have the negative effect on that gradual path. Right. That the audience is meant to be walked down. Right. Now currently, I'm just going to throw this out there. Uh, I don't feel like Kanye is going to execute the plan the way they want it to go. No, I don't think he's a good executor of plans right now. I would agree with you. But the,
Starting point is 00:46:57 the essence of that, uh, that makes what you're saying not really all that comforting true is that the battering ram does not have to be precise. You don't need that person to necessarily be the wrecking ball is not meant to, um, you know, necessarily follow the exact plan. You'll be a couple of inches off here and there and it all works. Whatever destruction and, uh, all that that is being is going on is all advantageous for someone like Nick. Well, let me throw this out at you a few inches one way or the other. No problem. You're still hitting the same castle, right? But if you go, uh, say a thousand feet the wrong direction and join the Nazis, I think that's different. I think that's different. Time will tell. So anyway, uh, yay,
Starting point is 00:47:44 Los Hitler, this guy that invented highways, invented the very microphone that I use as a musician. You can't say out loud that this person ever did anything good. And I'm done with that. I'm done with the classifications. Every human being has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler. How about that one? Ari Emmanuel, how you like that one? Hey, Ron, you're going to do anything to fix Chicago? Well, I am worried about the thousands of black folks down in Chicago, but, but let me expand on this. That's a new question. Ari Emmanuel is Rom's brother. And throughout this interview, yay, we'll repeatedly say that he wants to take Ari's wife into a private room and help her with her fashion line in a very Christian way.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Comes off a bit like a sexual threat, if I'm being honest. Ari has never been in charge of Chicago and Rom hasn't been mayor here since 2019. He's the ambassador to Japan now. So I guess that would be a better reference to make, but who cares? Yeah. Also, there were 1,745 gun deaths in all of Illinois last year, but I'm not sure where these thousands of black folks dying a month, the number Alex has come. They always, eventually they'll always just be like, oh, abortion. Small point. There were also over 3,000 gun deaths in Florida last year, almost doubled the number in Illinois. But seriously, Alex never seems to yell at DeSantis about that. Seems strange. It is weird. Over 4,100 in Texas. Very strange. That's odd because isn't Chicago supposed to be the most
Starting point is 00:49:15 dangerous place on the planet? Oh, we're all going to die. I'm so scared. So we remember from the Tim Poole interview that he really thought it was weird that Rom Emmanuel and Jared Kushner both exist and are Jewish. That is strange if you're crazy. He brings this back up because it's such a great point. Convinced me. Yeah. My favorite thing that I got to say with Tim Poole was Rom Emmanuel was right there next to Obama. Jared Kushner was right there next to Trump. What are those two people, those two Zionists? I gave it away. Have in common. Neo-liberalism? Absolutely. Yeah. You know, and it's interesting because you've been going on this interview with Alex Friedman and with Tim Poole and Piers Morgan, and they always say, well,
Starting point is 00:50:04 don't talk about a group. Talk about the individuals. And I would point out one, it's hypocritical because in the same interview, Tim Poole said, well, wouldn't the A be so great for the black vote? You could say the black vote. We talk about Jewish businessmen and somehow that's a problem. You can't talk about groups when it's one, but not the other. So here's that SWAT team dynamic and full display. Sure. Yay says something inflammatory for attention, then Nick comes in and talks more calmly about it in a speech pattern of a debate team member giving the appearance of credibility to what Yay just said. We talked about it last episode, but this Jared and Rom thing is fucking stupid. Just because it blew Yay's mind that two Jewish people worked
Starting point is 00:50:42 in two separate administrations, that doesn't mean it's actually mind blowing. He might just be an idiot. As for what Nick is saying, he's conflating two different things intentionally, but optically it works. And part of that is being done at Tim Poole's expense. Tim is stupid and I hate him, but I still don't want him to be used as a punching bag by Nazis in order to make their dumb points look less dumb. Saying that there's such a thing as the black vote is not analogous to saying that Jews were on banking. That is a false equivalence. It would be a valid point if you were allowed to talk about the black vote, but not allowed to talk about the Jewish vote. That would be where the difference would be something that you could point out, but that
Starting point is 00:51:20 isn't what Nick or Yay points out because people talk about the Jewish vote freely. This is the not very subtle sleight of hand that Nick is engaging in and he's doing that trick because his point doesn't work without it. It's a dishonest point designed only to excuse and justify anti-Semitic talking points and someone like Nick is more than willing to display this high school debate level tactic in order to sell his lie. And Alex is fucked because he can't even out-argue a high school Nazi. Yeah. I mean, personally, my issue here is Fuentes's point both is dumb and also is essentially, ah, see Kanye can't be racist. Tim Poole is also a racist. Or it would be like if in order to say that Yay is racist, you would have to say that
Starting point is 00:52:14 thinking that the black vote is something is also racist. That's what I guess, but I don't know. It's just awful. Yep. Anyway, Nick is the worst. In the Talmud, it says that Jews have to treat Gentiles differently than they treat other Jews. There's all kinds of examples of this. They say that if you accidentally, maybe religion is all done, how about that? Gentile, there's nothing even wrong with that. There's nothing morally wrong with that. They say that for a Jew to have sex with a Gentile is comparable to bestiality. They say that the semen of a Gentile is like that of horses. Well, that's just true. They also say that you can't give a gift to a Gentile. A Jew is not permitted under the Talmud to give a gift to a Gentile. They're not permitted to charge
Starting point is 00:52:59 each other interest, but they're encouraged to charge Gentile's interest. What do they say about pedophilia? They say that that's in some cases listed. Well, you're telling me in their holy book, it says it's okay to be pedophiles as long as it's not another Jewish person. That's only it came from Adam. I'm not 100 percent sure. Let me just get this. Let me just get this out front. I believe in free speech. Oh, good. Okay. So Nick is being entirely disingenuous as it relates to the Talmud and its relationship with Judaism. Plus, this is a complete non sequitur since there aren't talking about the religion of Judaism. They're talking about Jewish people. What's going on here? The Talmud is a gigantic document, which is a running discussion among
Starting point is 00:53:43 rabbis between the third and eighth centuries. You can find a whole lot of commentary on the Torah and laws in there. A lot of it very affected by the times when particular texts were written. Yeah. It's important to understand that a lot of what's in the text is a document of a time and that even within the Talmud, there's an evolution of thought. Since the point of its writing and since the point of all these things were written, Jewish thought has gone through further developments in the same way any religion does. For instance, there's a whole lot of shit in the Bible that would get you the death penalty. No. Very few Christians would even consider that kind of thing a problem deserving of stoning today. That's so weird. Yeah. All this stuff is also Nick using
Starting point is 00:54:26 historically anti-Semitic misinterpretations of the text in order to make accusations. For instance, the pedophilia accusation often traces back to this passage in the Talmud, quote, if an adult has sex with a girl under the age of three, it is ignored for it is like putting a finger in someone's eye, i.e. tears may drip from the eye, but there will always be more tears to replace them. So to the hymen of a girl so young may break, but will heal. This is a horrific sounding passage because, you know, taken out of context, it appears that when it says it is ignored, that means it's okay for an adult to have sex with a child, but that's a fraudulent reading of the passage. It's part of a section involving the particular details about a reverse dowry, the
Starting point is 00:55:09 amount a man is required to pay a woman in divorce. At the time, virginity made a person's reverse dowry be higher, so understood as it's actually written, the passage isn't about excusing pedophilia, it's making a hyper-specific point about dowries. This has been used to accuse Jews of being pro-child molestation by virulent anti-Semites for a long time, and Nick is continuing that tradition on Alex's show, and he isn't even met with a tiny bit of pushback. Alex isn't equipped to have this conversation at all, and he's now in the position of allowing these two to hijack his show or be forced to kick them off, and he's not going to do that. So long day for Alex is what I'm saying. Oh man. Long day. I love it when people bring up holy books. It's great. It is so great,
Starting point is 00:55:58 one, because it reminds me that all of your gods are stupid, and actually they're just dudes who are trying to control ladies. That's pretty much it, so argue all you want. There's a lot of that strain in religions through history. I just don't give a shit. You may not give a shit about that, but let me ask you this. Do you give a shit about prop comedy? Depends. You know, at the Amazing Jonathan, you could consider him a prop comic in many ways, and I think he's probably one of the greatest. Here's a prop comedy. Alex. Yes, sir. I've got the perfect answer for the ADL. They are going to have to listen up. What we did is we brought Netanyahu with us. I'm in the twilight zone right now. Netanyahu, what do you have to say?
Starting point is 00:57:00 See you have a puppet? What do you have to say to Alex Jones right now, Nick Fuentes and yay? It was bad. It was bad for truck to meet me. Nick and yay. Okay. I had no idea your voice was going to sound like that Netanyahu. Nice work. So you don't like men's men's voice. I just heard about this guy two weeks ago, since like the tweet, and I thought he had a funny name. I just thought he had a funny name. I didn't expect your voice to sound like that. Me. Yeah. So you asked to be at a puppet. He does not. He doesn't. He has a net like from a fishing fish tank. So that's net and he has a bottle of Yoohoo. Oh, all right. So it's a pun. Netanyahu. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:49 It's good. It's good. I mean, they're worse. I've seen. I've seen carrot top come up with worse. I mean, maybe I got a bigger show out of it. I haven't studied carrot tops work. So I'm not sure this is clunky. Not good. Not good thing because it's Yoohoo. There's an issue. Right. But also because you need two things to make the problem and they're not connected. Also, you know, when people talk about yay, oftentimes they excuse a lot of shit because he's such a creative genius. Sure. I present to you Netanyahu. I mean, let's say, let's say Kanye has never been funny in his entire career. Yeah. Let's just remind me. Let's just remind people of punchlines and raps. He's really bad at rapping. I don't know if anybody's noticed that before.
Starting point is 00:58:40 He's not a great lyricist. I've heard he's the greatest rapper who's ever lived. He's one of the greatest producers that ever lived, but I wouldn't go so far as to say he was a great rapper. I know one guy who disagrees with you. His name is yay. I miss the old Kanye. I think he misses the old Kanye as well. So Alex tries to, you know, make a little bit of a, he keeps trying to equivocate on stuff about like, hey, you know, like, you don't really mean this. Of course. Come on. It doesn't work. You guys realize that the British government created Hitler and the Milder Group put him in power and there's something much more sophisticated. And I personally think that most Jews are great
Starting point is 00:59:25 people and I understand there's a Jewish mafia and they're used to demonize anybody that promotes freedom, but I don't blame Jews in general for that. And there is a much larger eugenics, transhumanist, scientific elite agenda that's playing off. What about abortion? It's 50% of black deaths. There's over 54. Hey, one of the papers I had, you're like, why is the old, you're the director of that's fine. The Margaret Singer Rockefeller founded Planned Parenthood came out today and said, because of your white guilt, white people need to give money so we can kill black babies. I swear to God, it's in my stack. Oh, this, this is in his stack, but it never is a, never read, never. It can't find it. It's never produced because it would
Starting point is 01:00:08 be a weird thing. Well, because yay is the producer and director today. He's in charge. Sure. He told Alex to get all the stacks of paper off the desk because it looked too cluttered. Oh my God. Oh my God. I would have had it right here, but what a delight. Yeah. I am, I am finding this to be one of the great train wrecks. Oh, it's not even begun. It's not even begun. Awesome. No, it gets so much worse. I mean, I think, I think the problem that I'm having here is it is going too much worse to the point now where it's crossed into something ridiculous. Well, he's pulled out a fishnet. Exactly. And done a little Elmo voice. I mean, he told Alex to get rid of all of his papers.
Starting point is 01:00:58 He's clearly in charge. Like Alex is completely subservient. Yeah. Oh yeah. In a way that I have never seen before. Well, Alex is a starfucker and yay is probably the biggest star he's ever met. I mean, I don't think Rogan gets this kind of treatment. No, he doesn't because Rogan's not yay. Fair enough. Rogan can be Rogan all he fucking wants, but he's not yay. The end. The end. Sorry. But still your appearances on fucking fear factor are not going to compare to the college dropout. It's not going to happen. May I ask you this? What? What's that? Radio news radio? Pretty great. Pretty great. It's better than gold diggers at least. Okay. So Alex really wants to try to push back somehow while also being a bit anti-Semitic himself.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I believe in First Amendment. I believe in free speech. I'm going to doors you say whatever you want. Israel has other than other than like Singapore in a few places, the most draconian mRNA injections in the world. They have the highest death rate from the shots. They are literally forcibly injecting them like Joseph Mengele and Jews are dying in mass in Israel. So if the Jews are the secret group that runs it all and I'm not denying that, you know, Jews run Hollywood, what I'm saying is the Zionist. Okay. Well, why would the Zionist be killing Jews in mass in Israel with the boys and shot? Because they'd work for Satan. They don't work for God. Exactly. So they, they create atmospheres that get Jews persecuted. Sure. Control the Jews.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Right. Kill them. Makes perfect sense. You just did it. Just like George Soros helped round up Jews for Hitler. That's the next level. Boom. We just got there. You just got there. We just got there. So Jewish people are not dying in mass because of COVID vaccines. This is just a false premise. Alex is deploying, but it's important to recognize a few things that Alex himself says in that clip. These are not things that Yay is saying. They are Alex. First, Alex says that Jews run Hollywood. Obviously. So that's his position. Alex is not Yay. I'm not arguing that Jews control. Alex Jones. Obviously. Second, track the thought he runs out there at the end of the clip. He brings up the fake information about Jews dying from the vaccine in Israel to be a counterpoint to
Starting point is 01:03:13 Yay's assertion that Jews run everything. How could they run everything if their own people are dying in mass from the vaccine in Israel? It makes no sense. Yay responds. It's the Zionists. They work for Satan and Alex says exactly. This makes absolutely no sense if you're trying to follow coherent thoughts. Zionism is based around the argument that the Jewish people needed their own homeland originally in terms of the establishment of Israel and eventually towards a movement to develop and build up Israel. Apparently, according to Yay, these Zionists work for Satan and they're killing Jewish people in Israel, which runs counter to, you know, the essential idea and facilitating point of Zionism. Sure. Alex says exactly because he thinks he can work with that
Starting point is 01:03:56 since it fits into his anti-Semitic narratives about how the Jewish people have to create their own oppression so they can assert their political agenda. Think about how he said that the ADL calls everyone who loves freedom Nazis so they can marginalize their political enemies. Alex thinks that this is somehow elevated from Yay's anti-Semitic rhetoric, but in reality, he's as deep in the mud as everyone else on the show. He's just insisting his clothes are clean. It's really disgraceful and yeah, bad. I mean, yeah, I find I find that people are allowed to larp as though and I'm supposed to respect their belief system insane. I find it insane. They are arguing about which of the Elven Lords actually serve Sauron and that's the,
Starting point is 01:04:48 that's it. That's what they're doing. They're larping their balls off and I'm supposed to pretend that Christianity is real. I'm out. I'm out. Counterpoint to that. You would get deeply involved in an argument about which of the Elven Lords is. I don't even remember anymore. You know what? There were three Elven Lords, but the nine humans were supposed to die. I don't even remember. So Alex tries to deflect, you know, obviously a lot of times whenever anything comes up like accusations of anti-Semitism or Nazi-ish tendencies, he deflects by being like, Sauron's rounded up Jews. And so he tries that, but listen carefully here to this clip. Yeah, he doesn't care in America. Yeah, stay there. Stay there. Dick Boyd does the studio.
Starting point is 01:05:32 This is Uncensored folks. We're going to come back after this break and we're going to come back into the break and play a George Soros compilation of him on NPR. I like that. Yeah, never killed any Jews. So I want to know how do I get the ADL to love me? Do I round up Jews in Nazi Germany? Do I get loved in? Schwarzenegger said he loved Hitler. They gave him an award. I'm just saying, I don't like Nazis and I don't like what some of the Mafias are doing either. So you might have heard there. I like Hitler. I like Hitler. Yes, good did. So there is a really essential thing to understand here and that is that Alex is constantly trying to not push back on the things that Ye is saying. He's trying to reframe them in a way that they can both make
Starting point is 01:06:20 money off of. Right. I'm laundering. Yes. And Ye is not interested in that and constantly punctures the balloon. Whenever Alex tries to say something like Soros rounded up Jews, you know, Ye isn't that. He said, I like Hitler because he's essentially trying to be like, I don't want your sanitization. Fuck you. I'm saying what I'm saying. Stop trying to clean this up. I genuinely think that the risk of people following Ye into right wing supremacy is getting lower by the second in the same way that like that, that so many Star Trek episodes are like, oh, here's what we got to do. All of our weapons have no effect on the bad guy. What we need to do is take the bad guy's energy and redirect it towards him and then they'll explode. Exactly. This is too much Hitler.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Well, see, but here's the here's the thing. I think that if you were to check in on responses to this in places like Nick's streaming platform, I think that what you need to frame this or you need to look at this as it's less necessarily about directly Kanye leading people to this or Ye leading people to this and seeing it as an emboldening and enabling point for people who are already of this ilk to push things further. Sure. Ali Alexander is going to come on later and the way he describes it is like breaking the Overton window. Right. And that is in and of itself probably more dangerous than necessarily Kanye convincing people. Hey, Hitler's pretty cool. Right. Right. That isn't necessarily the specific concern that you would have from this interview.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Right. It is more of these other secondary and tertiary effects that it has on an already existing problem. Right. Right. And I understand. I understand where you're going with that. And it does seem to make sense strategically. However, there's a reason that the Overton window has not broken. There's a reason we call it moving the Overton window. You can't break the Overton window. They've tried. They would love to break the Overton window. That's why we are where we are with Republicans over the past 40 years slowly moving shit because they can't. Well, here's here's what I would suggest. Maybe it's possible to break the Overton window and then it can be fixed. We'll see. Also, maybe it wasn't in the best interest of some of these Republican folks to break an Overton
Starting point is 01:09:04 window. Maybe shifting it is actually more what they would want to do. And so maybe it's not proof that it can't be broken. It could. It's entirely possible. I'm telling you, I think they're making a huge mistake or at least actually I think we're going to get off great on this one because they fucked up. That's my that's my view. I'm not. I'm not quite as sunny about it as as you. All right. So Alex, one of his great retreats in times of trouble is hey, buddy, we're just doing a first amendment thing. It's free speech. And so he tries to do that. And again, yeah, he doesn't give a shit. My mission here today is to offer the first amendment because as long as you're not carrying out violence against someone or asking people to be violent, like the left asks people to burn down
Starting point is 01:09:53 cities and attack Republicans and celebrate a rampall and it's at least being shot and attacked, then you have your free speech. And when the left came out the last 10 years and really accelerated the last five, six, it said white people are inherently evil because of the color of their skin and that somebody that moved here as a kid from Poland, they're supposed to pay reparations for what people did hundreds of years ago in this country. It's a divide and conquer strategy. I'm getting into the reparations debate. I'm saying the groups pushing reparations are trying to cause division. And so I've said it the most Nazi like activities I've seen. And the Nazis in my view were thugs that shook people down to a lot of really bad things, but they did good things. We're
Starting point is 01:10:38 going to stop dissing the Nazis all the time. Okay, we're going to get to that. I don't want to get digressed into this, but yeah, I wouldn't either. Alex is trying so fucking hard to sanitize EA here. He's doing literally everything he can and EA just doesn't want it. Alex doesn't seem to understand that every time he tries to equivocate or offer up ways to launder the anti-Semitic points EA is making, EA is going to derail it because he means what he's saying. He's not playing games like Alex and all of his other fucking idiot friends are. Yep. Also, hooray for the First Amendment. The government didn't arrest EA for saying any of this shit. And the worst that's going to happen from it is that people are going to say mean and deserved things about him. And maybe if he has
Starting point is 01:11:20 any sponsors left, they could bail on him. None of that's a violation of free speech at all. And if anything, I think he's had a little bit too much of a free speaking lately. One could argue, one could argue that, uh, yeah, not wise, not wise choices that being currently made legal, free to do. We gotta stop bad mouthing the Nazis. Yeah, man. They get a bad rap. They really do. I think it's time for us to take a long, hard look at the Nazis and really focus on the positives. Sure. You know, like, uh, you got to look at it from a right half full approach. Nicely done. Well done. I'm not that tired apparently. Well done. All right. Show over. If only. So Alex tries to get real personal here, of course, because he really wants to bring home
Starting point is 01:12:15 to yay that these are, you know, the Nazis are bad folks, man. Yeah. It wasn't good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't care. Yeah. I don't want to get digressed into this, but remember I told you story about my grandfather growing up in the richest neighborhood in Dallas and down the street was a famous German American inventor. And he was a first generation person. He'd come here when he was a little kid on ship and he was, he yelled a bunch of the patents on air, on, on, on refrigeration and air conditioning. And my grandfather worked the time he was about eight years old because he took him under his wing in his little tinkering factory that then he had factories and places like Detroit that they actually built the stuff. And my grandfather,
Starting point is 01:12:59 the main reason he joined the Army Air Corps, he told me, he didn't tell me a lot about this. He told me the story was because he watched that man very quietly. Once Hitler got power in the thirties, suck every dime out of him, or he would kill his relatives in Germany. And that guy was blonde haired and blue light. It was as German as, as, as you can get as Arnold Schwarzenegger or you know, as, as Teutonic as, as, as Germanic. And the point was my grandfather saw that. So I understand you're opposed to other forces, but I don't think then thinking other forces in history that are lionized, that's my personal experience of what my grandfather, Clyde William Hammond told me. Does that make sense? It, it, not totally to me, but it's,
Starting point is 01:13:44 and I'm not saying that to be disrespectful. I'm saying like, it literally doesn't totally make sense to me. I'm following it. But I was just thinking about Satan, that whether it's the Zionists or Hitler, it's not the person it's Satan, using the people that I agree with that are controlled by demonic forces. But what I'm going to say is the Jewish media has made us feel like the Nazis and Hitler have never offered anything of value to the world. Oh, oh, so the Jewish media has told us that the Nazis do anything good. Yeah. Man, this is some high school edgelord shit that he's coming up with. But, but isn't that the devil telling, telling us not to believe that Hitler is good, but also isn't it controlled by the devil? It would be the devil possessing the
Starting point is 01:14:29 Jewish media right in order to say that the devil possessing exactly Hitler didn't do anything good right seems against the devil's purposes. Now, I feel like maybe one problem that we're not that we're not getting at right now is one that Kanye may have just elucidated very, very clearly, which is that he does not understand a fucking word. Anyone is saying to him now zero words. And he just wants to say shit. He just wants to say shit. He can't follow an argument. What are you going to convince him of? Why would you even argue with Kanye? He doesn't understand you. Right. This shouldn't be taken seriously. No. And Alex should hang his head in shame that he's even doing it. Totally. It's Alex said something very simple and Kanye said, I literally
Starting point is 01:15:12 don't understand you. I was thinking about Satan at which point you go, fine, goodbye. But on some level, I really think that that was a, I don't care what you're saying more than I don't understand. I think it was a literal, I don't understand. I cannot follow what you are saying. That may be, that may be. So we had the introduction of Ali Alexander as part of the crew. And it turns out there's another guy who's in the mix. George, I got some jokes here from Owen Benjamin that I want to read about Ben Shapiro. Hey, Candace Owens unplugged this robot before he runs his mouth. Ben Shapiro's cardio is picking up shackles. Shapiro can tell how much changes in your pocket just from hearing a jingle. That's an old one. Shapiro is just mad that Kyrie won't sign his
Starting point is 01:15:59 basketball. Back to you, Alex. You're sitting over there. You want to say something? Yeah. Well, I agree with yay. I. So for those of you who haven't paid close attention to this, Owen Benjamin was a shitty, pretty racist comedian who made, you know, he became a side member of the intellectual dark web. He was like in the killer bees to the IDW's Wu Tang. He was like street life or kill a priest. Nobody was too into him, but he's there. He also frequently hosted the fourth hour of Alex's show and was essentially also one of the killer bees of the Info Wars crew. At some point he started to get really into Hitler. So Info Wars and the IDW both decided it was no good for business. So he went off to the woods where he did drunk live
Starting point is 01:16:43 streams where you talk about how great the Nazis were and call himself a big bear. Things didn't get better from there. And just the other day, Milo posted a picture of Owen wearing a yay 24 jacket with the caption. Are you getting it yet? If anyone needs it better spelled out, the embarrassing loser Nazis who we all decided we didn't want around are banding together and yay is acting as the battering ram that's bringing them back into the public eye. It's dangerous, it's unacceptable, and no matter how many times you may hear someone try to play this off as a joke, it's not. Also, Owen Benjamin is painfully not funny. As a matter of research, I decided to watch some of his more recent standup and the jokes that yay is reading, they're about on par for
Starting point is 01:17:24 his talent. Great. Maybe the funniest thing that Owen ever did is after he had a falling out with Alex, he took to his live stream to drunkenly shit on Alex from the woods. I do have an apology to do today. I was wrong about Alex Jones. I a bunch of people told me that he was a shill and I backed them and I was like, no, he's a good guy. No, total shill. So I apologize. I should have listened to you guys. He's, uh, he's, he's terrible. Like legitimately laughable. Like he won't even have me on now because of the Jew talk. Alex Jones. Such a shill. I even text him today. I said, when no one, when no one stood up for you and everyone treated you like garbage, I went on your show to circle the wagons. When you were flipping out about Rogan, I had your back.
Starting point is 01:18:23 I said, you should sell your bridge burning business. You'll make more money than your fake boner pills. Good bet. He was like, well, we should talk. No, no, no, no, no, you are a disgusting little weasel. So for all the people out there that told me, uh, you know, I, I believe in people until I don't, that's just something you have to understand about me. I'm a liar notes because of Jew talk. He's funded by, by Jews. Like that's, that's the fact. He goes on a while, uh, complaining about Alex in the woods. Sure. And I'm not even starting a feud with the guy. He's so short and fat and dumb and drunk that like, I don't can argue. It's just, he said, he would call me and ran about Joe Rogan saying he's a Satanist and he works for the CIA. And I would just sit there.
Starting point is 01:19:17 One time I was having a meal with my family and I said, listen, I told my wife, I was like, I just have to just give me a minute. He's my friend. He seems like unhinged. And so I listened to Alex rant on and on and on about Joe Rogan being a Satanist because I thought he needed it. And then he turned on me just because I make fun of Jews. So, and I was a, I mean, you understand when people would attack Alex, I was very decisively standing up for Alex. And I apologize. You guys were right. All the thousands of people that said, Alex Jones, the shill, he's a sad little man. He's a liar. I said, no, he's not just because we disagree on things. Doesn't mean anything. No, he's a bad dude, bad dude. So my bad.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Alex hearing Owen Benjamin's name be brought up should make him a bit worried about Yay and Nick's real intentions or at very least make it clear to him that they aren't going to listen to his softball attempts to whitewash their bigotry. Reading off Benjamin's jokes is in some way a coded act that Alex should take to be meaningful because he has history with Owen and it's not good. I mean, Jesus Christ. These are just bad people. Like on a level of, you know, you don't try and call people evil because that dehumanizes them. But if you were going to, there would be some candidates. It's, it's an interesting collection of volatile bad folk. And I mean, if there is, I don't, I don't agree with your sort of sunny disposition towards what this portends a little
Starting point is 01:21:03 bit. But if I were to take anything as like a, this might not be the worst thing ever, it's that these people, particularly the ones that are rallying around, are not people who will put up with each other. Yeah, no, these are the dumbest second string as assholes. And they will come to head. They will butt heads with each other. You can't have this kind of a crew of people who have it. They have well documented histories of burning folks and it's not going to work. Yeah, I mean, it does long term. It does feel like the abdication of any and all responsibility from from folk to deal with this is also evidence that maybe the only people who can kill Nazis are Nazis themselves. You know, that's poetic. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I think, you know, you
Starting point is 01:22:01 think that things are sort of handled or managed, you know, Owen Benjamin's marginalized and he's off ranting around a campfire drunk in the woods. Sure. Apparently not. Apparently he's gonna, he's you know, someone like yay does what he's doing and Owen Benjamin's gonna come back around. Milo is roundly canceled and everybody's sick of his bullshit. Sure. To the point where he has to rebrand as no longer gay. Right. Right. And you know, you think you're never going to have to hear about him and then now yay brings him along. It's he has a resurrection power for forgotten Nazis. Sure. I'm going to tell you this though. I don't think those jokes are going to vault Owen Benjamin into the next level though. I'm going to throw that out there. I don't think
Starting point is 01:22:48 those are bringing the heat. Well, his original jokes didn't either. Yeah. It's that's a tradition for him. So anyway, the Nazis are bad. Sure. But hey man, the US is bad too. Sure. Great. People talk about Nazis and Hitler, but the United States had camps as well. The United States put the Japanese in intermingle. United States injected black people with syphilis. Yeah. And and the and you know, I totally agree with you. Yeah. The United States has Instagram selling pornography to little kids and they're selling people are selling it. It's probably might be preoccupied with your own. Let he without saying throw that out. You're just you know, Instagram is a prostitution ring. I went 30 days off Instagram and it was the
Starting point is 01:23:29 best part of the fast. Me getting kicked off Instagram was the best thing that ever happened to me because when I go to it, it's like watching it with the they live goggles, which is something that Owen Owen Benjamin, you guys got to pull this up. Dave Chappelle is a hack and he gets a lot jokes from Owen Benjamin. Yeah. I mean, I knew Owen used the N word a lot. Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. That's true. He's got that. Chappelle stole that. He stole the N word from Owen. Yeah. You know, back in like, what was it? Ninety three. Oh, oh, Owen Benjamin brought together like to live quality. Sure. Sure. Get Owen Benjamin's block party at a campfire in the woods. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Can you get? Oh God, stop and think about stole that. Stop and think about the tragedy of Chappelle's block party, the downward trajectory of all of those people. If they if oh my god, they should do like an animal house. Where are they now a thing after at the end of that? Dead press is the only people still good. Are they sure about that? I know. I don't even know anymore. They seem like they would be great to forever, but who knows? You think? Well, I know that one of them was named stick man. No relation to base. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Hey, one Uno. He's probably still good. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah. But yeah, I was just trying to think of more fun ways to pretend that all these great things that you know a lot of
Starting point is 01:25:19 18 year old comedy phenom prodigies stole everything from Owen Benjamin. That's what happened. Yeah. Right. Yep. Eddie Murphy. He wrote all the sketches on Chappelle's show. Really? Actually. Yeah, that's that. You know, that pimp one is really offensive now, knowing that Owen Benjamin wrote it. That's kind of that's fucked up. But here's the thing about Chappelle, man. Sure. Not only a hack. He also doesn't believe in Jesus. Day Chappelle went on a Jewish platform and said Chappelle said they dropped that nigger talking about yay. And he called me Kanye and I'm supposed to be his friend. Day Chappelle does not believe in God and does not believe in Jesus. These are the kind of black leaders that the Zionists put in front
Starting point is 01:26:02 of us. It's your bill. Meanwhile, we want to knock Herschel Walker, but Herschel Walker changed his life for Christ. And he might have had abortions, but he doesn't believe in abortion. What matters I have to. Doesn't have a kid. He needs a board right now. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah, I agree with yay. I think that America has a fearless visionary leader who serves Christ, who wants to bring the future forth and engineering and theology. I think that when you look at the options that were offered, and I said this on my show the other week and the news said, oh, he supports DeSantis. I said the moderate Trump. DeSantis, nobody even knows. It's just somebody that all the left are all assembled. Let me raise that. Let me raise that
Starting point is 01:26:50 since you guys got into this. So all this is just rambling nonsense, but I want to point out how much of a worm Nick is. Right. He is a smart fucking worm. A worm. He essentially doesn't speak unless prompted. And as soon as he interrupts him, he drops whatever thought he's making and shuts up. You may notice that he starts just about every sentence with, I agree with you. I agree with you. He's doing such a great job of ingratiating himself here. You should be really worried about that because that is not Nick like that dude is a leader, not a yes man. So if he's acting like a yes man, there's another plan he's working on that you might just be a tool in. Yeah, I would be aware of that if I were if I were. Yeah, you are all I'm mad at the world is dumb. That's if
Starting point is 01:27:35 yeah, if you are letting Nick Fuentes manipulate you, you're dumb. The end end. Well, if that's the case, there's probably quite a few dumb people out there. Exactly. So Nick gets to explaining how Trump and DeSantis are both beholden. So the moderate Trump versus DeSantis will not produce any outcome where America or Jesus is put first. Israel is or rather DeSantis is mobbed up with Israel and Mossad. Donald Trump, his speech, his announcement was written by Jason Miller, who's controlled by foreign interests. There's a Republican primary between them two and they go up against Biden or they go up against Newsome. There is exactly zero chance that we get any kind of regime that's going to deliver the real question. If I say something that's provocative
Starting point is 01:28:22 towards the Mossad, is that Mossad genistic? Hold on, let's hear from that. Hey, I'm the head of the Mossad. I'm going to kill you and take your children away from you. This is fucking great. Back to you, Alex. Please turn your microphone around, sir. Man, I'm definitely overwhelmed here right now. infowars.com, tomorrow's news today. Killing it, Alex. Killing it. Killing it. Just somebody watching this going, these guys know what's up. Yeah. Owen Benjamin's watching. He's like, he stole my misogynistic joke. Oh my God. Oh my God. Everyone's rip it off. Holy shit. This whole game. So yeah, Alex kind of realizes things are a little bit off track. So he tries to bring things
Starting point is 01:29:07 to the center, but unfortunately, the closer you get to the center, the closer you get to the net. Um, listen, all I'm trying to get through here is I believe every group should be I switched his name to Netton. I dropped the, uh, the Yahoo. So we didn't have to, I was tired of picking up the Yahoo and the Netton. So for now, he's just Netton. I know some people call him BB. No, it's something you call him. Yeah, but we're going to call him Netton. What you want, man? Hey, right after this, I'm going to say you're crazy. I'm going to take your family away from you. We're not done with you yet. You cannot cause free thought. We have to get you. He's realized they're fair about that. We have to control the banks.
Starting point is 01:29:48 It's kind of a big deal. And kill people. Also, we're in the bad area. Interesting. Good character work. And in a little while, hopefully you're going to take the mask off because this is, is this actually yay here? Folks, is this, the mask is coming off a little while We're going to be able to, uh, have a discussion about this. But I mean, seriously, you have the globalist pushing a poison shot that's already killed 20 million people that they admit doesn't work. And then you're the bad guy for criticizing a group. What I'm saying is when the left said white people are inherently bad because they're white the last six, seven years, they opened the gates up. So what did they expect? What do they expect?
Starting point is 01:30:28 Yay was going to be a complete anti semi because the left said that, uh, the white people are bad. All right. All right. Now come on. Okay. This would break my heart if it was genuine, but if it turned out to be a stunt, all right. If he took the mask off and doom was still alive, that would be the fucking ultimate doom moment. You mean MF doom, not Victor Vaughn. No, of course. MF doom. If it was, I guess he does go by Victor Vaughn. He is in the past. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he called it a coupon. No, I don't, I don't think that would help. You don't think so? Ah, boy. It'd be pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:31:08 It would be interesting. Explain to me how it is we are supposed to have Alex being like, oh, I think what the problem is the left when this is in response to I'm gonna kill everybody. What are we doing? What are we doing? Is, is, is incredibly anti-semitic, puppet act with a fish net. I, here's what I, here's, I know this. I guarantee you this. Every headline, every single headline is going to be something like yay loves Hitler, some bullshit like that. That's, that's what a lot of the response is. They're all stupid. They're all wrong. Everybody should be ashamed of themselves because what the headline should be is yay brings net and you who to make fun of net and Yahoo. Right. That's it. The end.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Yay does bad prop work, bad pun work. Yay. Totally. Clearly struggling with sexual problems. I know they're not that would be a bad headline. I think that's probably inappropriate. That wouldn't work. Although it would also kind of explain 40% of everything that he's saying. I mean, he won't stop. I mean, but that the issue that it comes into there is that it does feel like there's something really, really personal and very his problem that's being the sort of foisted and projected on somebody else. But then it's also a classic and quite popular anti-semitic trope that's used. True. So like that, that gets murky if you just try and say like, oh, he has a problem with porn or something. I mean, I'm just, I'm just already, I'm reading these
Starting point is 01:32:40 articles in my head because I've read so many of them, but it's going to be like on a freewheeling interview or on a sometimes disjointed interview. Kanye said that he loves Hitler or something like that. Instead of being like, this was a ridiculous fucking display of absolute nonsense with a white supremacist just jerking Kanye off while Alex Jones pretends that he's doesn't like anti-semitism. Like it's, it's insane. Don't say, oh, but, but, you know, that it is also a strategy of folks who have extreme opinions like this to make themselves laughed at. Well, because it softens and dulls the, you know, in the same way that even you were kind of succumbing to that in as much as like, you don't think that this is going to be like a
Starting point is 01:33:32 pipeline to- I don't think it is. I think that, I think the more that you put the, the like, this is serious. This is a serious interview. Yay says he loves Hitler. The more you're doing for loving Hitler than yay is because yay is making it look like loving Hitler turns you into an insane crazy baby with dancing around with nets and yoohoo. That is what yay makes looking Hitler love look like. They're going to make it look like yay is a fucking out and out Hitler lover when in reality he's absolutely lost his fucking mind. Unless you believe that this is sort of an act of trolling and trying to jam your shit into a place and make it like viewable by a wide audience. Right. And that's what they're doing. Right. And that's what the
Starting point is 01:34:25 media is helping them do. Perhaps. So this is a, you know, yay is still a rapper, you know, and this is kind of a nice rap brag about anti-Semitism. It's wrong for the ADL to have what are very racial policies. The ADL is played out. Nobody knows who the ADL has stopped giving them attention. Nobody cares about the ADL. Well, they run all the censorship and everything. They don't run anything. They're played out. We run the streets. Well, I'm signaling out the ADL. We don't know who they are. No one in high school knew what the word anti-Semitic was until yay made it popular. No, I hear you. It's definitely a tiger by the tail.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Yeah. AP American history. No one knew what the word of anti-Semitic meant until they found out yay was doing it in 2022. I put anti-Semitism on the map. Great. Cool. Not true, but also fucked up way to think about yourself. Yay said he invented anti-Semitism. That's your headline right there, buddy. So Nick says some dumb shit and then something kind of weird happens. The definition of anti-Semitism according to the State Department is if you say Jews have any allegiance to Israel, it's anti-Semitic. If you say that Jews have any kind of conspiratorial influence in America, it's anti-Semitic. So we're supposed to believe that if Ram picks up the phone and gets on a call with Zeke and Ari and they talk about their jobs,
Starting point is 01:35:53 which are running Hollywood and running the Obama White House, a conspiracy. Still? We acknowledge that happens. We're called anti-Semitic, but it's the truth. It's a truth that they make those calls and it doesn't mean that every Jewish person is in on it. They are good Jews like Darren Beatty and Laura Loomer and there are lots of fine people. What's that Laura Loomer call in? Also, it's like there's Jewish people that are basically hiding me under their floorboards right now under the wooden floors. It's like a reverse version of the Holocaust because there's Jewish people that saw how I was treated and they're like, this is wrong. This guy just gave an opinion. I didn't cause any harm. I didn't harm anyone. All I said is and I spelled it wrong because I was
Starting point is 01:36:37 drinking alcohol and we see the Bible says you can drink, but the king should not drink, right? And I shouldn't have been drinking. I shouldn't have said that's why Elvis died. That's why Elvis died. It's a two billion dollar tweet basically. I know you know about getting sued. I hear you. So let's expand. Yeah, that's also drinking. It's not anti-Semitic to say that some Jewish people have a support for and even a sense of allegiance to Israel. It is anti-Semitic the way people like Nick insist that all people who are Jewish should be suspected of having dual allegiance and that their loyalties aren't with the country they live in and of which they are a citizen. This is a classic trope that's been used to alienate and ostracize Jews historically
Starting point is 01:37:15 and Nick understands that his game here is weak. Nick is the one who brought up the Japanese internment camps. He I mean that it's that's yeah. His example of a conspiracy within the Emmanuel family is equally stupid, which is what he was bringing up there. Ari is a powerful figure in the entertainment industry, but that's not the same thing as running Hollywood. Nick is saying that because he's a Jewish person in this position of influence, whereas he wouldn't say the same of a non-Jewish person with a similar level of cloud saying they run Hollywood. Zika Manuel wasn't just part of the Obama team. He was the chief of the bioethics department of the NIH from 1998 to 2010 and Ram was Obama's chief of staff for about a year and a half just after he was elected.
Starting point is 01:37:58 The three of them are successful people and are related, but Nick has no proof that they called each other and coordinated about how they would control politics on Hollywood. That's ridiculous and it's patently anti-Semitic as a suggestion and it makes sense that that's where Nick's mind goes and how it works. Yeah, I mean by his own reasoning if there were three white brothers doing that then it would be a white people conspiracy. I mean it would have to be. And that means that all white people are evil or it means it is 100% okay for white people to do a conspiracy and 100% evil for Jewish people to do. Well it's suspicious when Jewish people do it. See, that's exactly. But it's really cool how Alex and Yake and Bond over how they did reprehensible
Starting point is 01:38:38 things that cost them north of a billion dollars because they were both drunk. Cool guys to look up to all in all I would say. There is. Cool, cool, cool drunk guys. You know, I find it hard to think of a better stop drinking message than Kanye and Alex Jones collectively lost several billion dollars all due to drinking. And you know what's super cool about it? You know, I'm saying this is cool because it's so cool. The way that both of them responded to it by not learning a lesson and continuing to do the same thing. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, you know, I think the dare program when I was growing up really lost its good example. You know, they just never had a chance. They were dead in infancy. They were ahead of their time. If only if only. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:39:27 Laura Loomer ends up calling in and she this is just chaos. She ends up talking on a speakerphone because Yake doesn't want to put in earbuds. Of course not. They're evil. They'll get that's how the people control your ears. And because he has a full balaclava on. Well, that makes it off. I don't hate anybody because of their religion or their background. And there's great people from every organization. And I think George Soros can come to Christ. It is a possibility that he can convert and come to Christ. Would you meet with George Soros if we wanted to meet with you? Absolutely. I wouldn't meet with anyone. That's only Laura. We're live. What's up? This is Laura Loomer. I'm watching live. I saw you just said that you wanted me to call in. So I'm calling in.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Well, how does she have your number? I'm not busy. Well, she called me because she had some concerns about Milo running my campaign. No, that's great. So here's the deal. Can we we've got Laura Loomer's number. Can we call her on Skype or Zoom? Can we actually put her on the show? Laura, you're on the speakerphone. Can you come on via Skype or via phone right now? Yeah, I can't I can't do a video right now, but I could do I could do audio and I texted your producer. This is a good show. You know, it's it's really it's really just smooth and produced. You know, if you were on the fence about either Hitler or Info Wars, this show will really push you towards the pro in both directions. I think, you know, I do like that moment that Alex has.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Or he's like, how does she have your number? I know. Even Alex is like, what the fuck is going on here? Laura Loomer have yeas. How is Loomer involved? And it's interesting, too, that the reason is because she had contacted him about a concern about Milo. Yeah, because she doesn't trust my none of them trust any of them because they're all grifters. They all know that they're just a minute away from each other over. Listen, that guy will stab you in the back, which is completely different from the way I will stab you in the ribs. Exactly. I'll make sure you bleed out faster. Okay, I'm a nice guy. Yeah, they're all like wrestling tag teams. You know, they're all like, all right, we understand that they're they're eventually
Starting point is 01:41:36 going to have to fight each other. This is transient. This is this is setting up an end to our friendship. Yeah, not not the lasting one. So she's going to call back in eventually, of course, they don't get her on Skype or anything. It's again on speakerphone. Great. But yeah, he has some other things he wants to talk about, particularly a prayer that he's mad about. Fun. Let's let's remove this whole conversation of morality. And let's go. Let's stick to the Bible and say either Jesus said so or Jesus said no. Hold on. I'm going to wait till you drop this. Or Jesus said go. All right. Listen. All right. So and I feel like that's profound. That's like a bar that made me top five streaming artists without an album this year. Either Jesus
Starting point is 01:42:19 said so or Jesus said no, because we want to bring in our creative direction and our opinion and our moral compass. Forget the words moral compass. Is it in the Bible? What did the red letters say? They didn't have to say about it. And then we make our decisions off of that. So I said this and then I also was I had an idea. Let's stop hoping. Let's pray. Let's talk directly to God. Let's stop hoping yourself. I agree that he has hoping here. And I took it out and I put it back in and then he and so I said this prayer and my family members, they didn't say anything. And then he said prayer and all the whole family was like, Oh, that's the best prayer I ever heard. And he's like, I know, I know my prayers could be intimidating. I know, I know. And I was thinking
Starting point is 01:43:06 like, bro, why are you setting me up? Why are you setting me up to say my prayer right before your prayer? But this is his prayer. I was like, send me that prayer, bro. That prayer was pretty good. Yes, that was a pretty good prayer. Yay. Can't even say you're yay. You can't stand being upstaged at a fucking quiet prayer event. It was a good prayer. But the point of the prayer, how is he mad at a prayer? If the point of the prayer is not performative, he is literally makes no sense about any bullshit about his religion. Nope. Well, he's young in his Christianity, as he said, although Jesus walks came out 15 years ago, came back, came out a long time ago. He's really talked a lot about Jesus. I mean, most of these samples that he's used his entire
Starting point is 01:43:52 career have been gospel oriented. Yep. Yeah. I had that impression of him as not a huge fan of his music, just knowing it sort of on a surface level. That was my impression. Right. You know, the, you know, Jesus walks, how I need Jesus. He did wear the crown of thorns himself, though. So maybe he thought he was Jesus at that time. Well, no, he's Jesus. Anyway, he goes on to have a very long prayer. And I'm not going to make us listen to all of it, but I do like Alex's response afterwards. Thank you for blessing us from the top of our head to the bottom of our feet and everywhere in between with the first, what we need, everything that we deserve, and then the best that you have for our lives, shall we God and Jesus name. Amen. And perfect time to go to
Starting point is 01:44:45 break our number two uncensored with yay. Next point as I'm your guest host here in insane asylum world, because the whole world's crazy. All of us are nuts. This is this is twilight zone 2.0. We will be right back when you say that I'm talking about all of us. The whole world's crazy. It is crazy. Everybody's crazy. I believe that I'm saying the guest host here because these guys are hosting. We'll be right back with our number two. Alex has been defeated. I quit. I am the loser here. I clearly have no control over what's going to happen. I'm Alex Jones. I am your guest. I am lost. I am totally lost. I've tried a few things. I have not been successful in sanitizing this gentleman here and fuck it. It's crazy world. Oh no. Yay. I did not mean you're crazy. Everyone's
Starting point is 01:45:37 crazy. But yeah, you are especially crazy. You crazy motherfucker. Oh my God. I've I don't know if I've ever seen Alex that like sort of impotent. Yeah. That was really, really a bummer. You know what? It reminded me of a man who suddenly discovered there were no tools in his toolbox. None. After only two or three tools. These tools work so well when I'm alone in a studio or talking to liars. I should have bought more tools. I mean Connie is a liar too. But like talking to people who are motivated only by grift. Right. Right. It always works. Should have should have bought more tools. I am out of tools very quickly. So the tool that he decides to go to is playing more special reports. Sure. Let's take up some of this time. Yeah. Yeah. Keep him off. They play a special
Starting point is 01:46:29 report about the Balenciaga. Sure. Because apparently there's a new pedophilia scandal. I guess Balenciaga is like a like a brand fashion brand of some sort. I believe. Cool. You guys handle it. I guess it's like way fair but with bags. Sure. I don't know. But yeah, fine. Anyway, whatever. There's a Reese's report. One of Reese's pieces. Love me a good Reese's piece about the Balenciaga. Sure. This is wild. Why is this playing the same style bears were featured in one of their last runway shows which was held in a mud pit as if the brand weren't disgusting enough. But who opened for the show. Yeah. Kanye West was pretty close with Balenciaga before they got canceled for that last photo shoot. He's been all over the place for years. Everybody knows that.
Starting point is 01:47:28 I'm sure he's been through a lot. I feel for him. But let's keep our eyes open. Yeah. It's a very small club and yet the majority of us still seem to obsess over them like royalty. You. You obsess about the great Reese. Oh my God. But yeah, very weird choice to play that. I genuinely don't know. I just don't. I don't know where I'm at. I don't know where we live. Right. I remember when I was young that I knew all of this wouldn't happen. That's all I remember. Being young I knew in my soul there is no way that all of what happened after I grew up would happen. And it all did. Yeah. There's a lot of surprises that have happened in adulthood. All of them. All of the surprises. I will say it is a small miracle and a giant
Starting point is 01:48:20 piece of good luck that you wasn't watching that special report because that could have gotten pretty fucking ugly. Storm out real quick. I was watching at this point on Nick's streaming site because he has an Alex Jones channel on there. And so they play the show naturally and man the chat was furious. Of course. This. They thought this was a complete setup to make anti-semitism look bad. So it made so Kanye shows up and he's spewing anti-semitism and then they play a special report revealing that yay himself is also a pedophile evil billionaire. That was yeah. That was the stab in the back kind of thing. That's very funny. Yeah. That's delightful. Yeah. So Tim Poole when he had yay on the whole goal was to talk about the dinner with Trump. Right.
Starting point is 01:49:09 That did not happen because who knows why. That was for his other podcast dinner with Timmer. Pool. Drain the pool. No. No. I'm too tired. Yeah. I understand. So that didn't happen there. But some of that conversation gets to happen here and Nick has a little bit of a story about how people thought it was a setup. Trump gave kind of the standard black voter pitch. He talked about the HBC use the opportunity zones things like that. And then it turned out that yay had accidentally sent a text message to a lawyer that both Trump and yay share and forward him some intel that Karen gave to us about how we were going to handle the Trump meeting and how to read his body language and the kinds of things that maybe we should avoid.
Starting point is 01:49:58 He's a lizard. And so before the dinner he actually only forwarded that to a lawyer. Don't tap the glass. Then in the middle of the dinner apparently called Trump to say hey Karen Giorno's involved. This is a setup. You guys are being set up right now. It was really just based on a misunderstanding. And after that call who's this lawyer. Do you mind if I say the name. Yes. It's yes you mind. I don't. Okay. It's Nick Gravante. So he was texting. I don't mind. I don't mind any names. I think that's the general just yeah no shit buddy. I'm finished the entire story. This is a fun Nazi comedy of errors. Nick is describing but there are some people who have been very adamant that Nick's version of the story isn't true. Karen Giorno is a former Trump aide
Starting point is 01:50:42 who was wrangled into attending the dinner by Milo and they knew each other because Giorno had helped with Loomers failed run for Congress. Apparently according to Nick she gave some advice about how to handle Trump which he meant to text to Fuentes but accidentally texted to Nick Gravante. Gravante then texted Trump to let him know that it was a setup apparently because Giorno is out for revenge or something. Sure. Problem is that Gravante has been very clear that he didn't tell Trump shit and Nick has no evidence that this happened at all. That's an issue. But that doesn't mean that the dinner wasn't a setup. Giorno said she went on record and said quote Milo said that he arranged the dinner just to make Trump's life miserable. He was hoping that
Starting point is 01:51:26 news of the dinner would leak and Trump would mishandle it. Nick Fuentes echoed that sentiment and he said I hate to say it but the chickens are coming home to roost. Also Milo himself told NBC quote I wanted to show Trump the kind of talent he's missing out on by allowing his terrible handlers to dictate who he can and can't hang out with. Sure. I also wanted to send a message to Trump that he has systematically repeatedly neglected ignored abused the people who love him the most the people who put him in office and that kind of behavior comes back to bite you in the end. Yeah. Lesson here is don't ever associate with any of these people. It will end up turning bad at some point and they don't have any shame. I mean you I how is it possible that that is not
Starting point is 01:52:12 clear evidence that Trump should not be allowed anywhere near power ever. He got out maneuvered by Nick Fuentes and Milo Yiannopoulos. He is so fucking stupid. He walked into a 20 year old asshole's trap. What a fucking moron. Yeah. Anyways he's going to win. So anyway Nick isn't a white supremacist. Did you know that? No he is. Apparently not. No he is. They say you're a white supremacist. No not at all. He thinks white supremacists are superior. Yeah. You know I'm a Catholic. I'm Christian and so I believe that I know that sounds white supremacist right there but it's not. Well I believe that we're all children of God and so I think that black white red brown whatever we're all we're all siblings in a certain sense because we're created by God. I do though believe
Starting point is 01:53:03 that there are races. There are black people. There are white people. There are Hispanics and and these differences mean something to people. They mean things to each other. That doesn't mean that we can't get along. That doesn't mean but the left saying it's bad to even have a culture. They're saying none of us can be say I'm this or I'm that. Right. They want to melt us all down. That's what globalization is. They want to globalize the government the economy and the population. They want a global government. They want to globalize the economy through free trade with no culture. Exactly. And and the pop we still your culture. They want to make it so that in 50 100 years there are no distinct nations. There's no distinct
Starting point is 01:53:38 peoples. There's so nobody can stand up to them. Right. Just a slave class undifferentiated. That's what they want. This is the future president you're talking to you right now. Is Nick you're running. Not a chance. No he's not old enough. Well listen I I will say this right now. I'm putting this down. I don't care about morality. If Nick Fuentes is elected I will kill him. I will absolutely kill Nick Fuentes. If he is elected president he will die. I will assassinate him. I swear to fucking God that I and I don't care. I'll do my time. I'll do my time forever. I'm fine with it but I will not let this world be run by Nick fucking Fuentes as God is my witness. Well I I mean you're speaking in
Starting point is 01:54:25 quite a hypothetical and you know that is very specific hypothetical. Well I think it won't come to this because I by the time Nick's old enough to run I don't think there will be a presidency exactly the whole country will have collapsed into something or other. Yeah I'm not concerned about whether or not I'll have to follow through on this one but I mean look there is a savvy that Nick has that I think that no matter how bad any of this stuff gets with yay I don't think that it's going to be a problem for him. No I think he can come out the other side completely fine let people like Ali Alexander Milo and Owen Benjamin return back to their obscurity and Nick has an ability to explain the games that he's involved in in a way that doesn't hurt his ability to play them.
Starting point is 01:55:16 It makes people think they're playing it with him. Exactly and there is a way that on the other side of this Nick can say look I am in the interest of my interest to advance Christian principles or whatever and yay is a gigantic star. It was something that served my ability to spread the message of God and Jesus. Further he would he's going to be fine. Oh yeah no and when the white supremacists are like oh but you worked with Kanye he'll be like yeah I told you I was using Kanye as the black face of white supremacy. I fucking told him. I told everybody what I was doing. I'm literally the smartest person in the room because I surround myself with the dumbest people on the planet and I never expected it really to come to fruition.
Starting point is 01:56:04 I said this when I was 18. This is a means to an end and that's the part that's particularly troubling about him. It's sad. So Alex of course is still I mean he gave Trump an ultimatum and Trump didn't live up to it but Alex decided no big deal. Yeah well whatever. But he's still in the business of supporting him and so he tries. He's got to push back. Yeah he doesn't do a great job. Sounds right. It's fair though for Trump that is a political attack to claim that he endorses or represents even the views they claim you hold that you don't hold. So clearly you can see how the media is using you guys as an attack on Trump. They're using us to try to put this guy we've never heard of DeSantis in office. Like DeSantis is going to play by the book. The thing about Trump
Starting point is 01:56:55 is this guy is one of the best presidents we have. He's top five presidents. He's right there with Ronald Reagan. Got tricked by Milo. He was a woman grad. He's one of the best businessman of all time. And the entire time he was the president the Jewish media attacked him. They were mad because he was actually working for the country and now they're doing everything including this meeting to try to say he's not allowed to meet with. This is info wars. Who are you to say who the president can meet with. So I mean you know he's just throwing around very liberally terms like the Jewish media and stuff. It's very over. And it's it's Alex doesn't really even take any it doesn't bad night at throwing around the Jewish media. And that's pretty bad. Yeah. That's
Starting point is 01:57:50 he's doing a terrible job. Yeah. Of this because again it's not in his interest really to have a fight or an argument about this. It is in his interest to try and sanitize things as best as he can and try to cover his ass a little bit in case there's something that's particularly bad. There's like I can't I can't be involved with this. Like you know saying the Nazis were great. Alex tries to be like well I knew this guy who invented air conditioning. Yeah. Nazis are not good. Yeah. And so he can try to get a little bit of that dirt off him. It's not effective. It's transparent. But you just allows this to stand at the fly. Yeah. And again this is too easy. These people are stupid. Like I mean honestly Alex could Alex to just be like oh you know what
Starting point is 01:58:39 you're right about the Jewish media. Point out who exactly is the Jewish media. Like give me outlets give me names. Who should we avoid. Am I the Jewish media. Oh you're just saying fucking everybody because you're an idiot. Thank you. Moving on. I think Alex doesn't want to ask for specifics because he might be a little worried that Nick would have them. And that's fair. Yeah. That is fair. If it were just gay maybe that's a good point. How have you thought through these positions. What exactly are you saying. But since Nick's there you're like Nick take this one and then then you're in deep water. That's true. So JFK RFK killed by Israel. There we go. If you want Middle East peace you have to go to Israel because Israel is the one who has been
Starting point is 01:59:25 bombing Syria. Israel is the one that's got 200 nuclear weapons. They're going nowhere. Exactly. And that's why they killed JFK and RFK was because of they were trying to get their WMD program off the ground. Operation Apollo. It was Jack Kennedy that wanted IAEA inspectors looking into it. No that is probably one of the main that's one of the reasons Kennedy got killed. What we need to say right now and we're going to bring Ali on us in a second is my both of my parents were educators right and we're here as the educators. No. So there's a problem with being the king of conspiracies and actually not really knowing or caring about any of them. Nick comes in with his explanation for why JFK and RFK were killed and Alex knows deep
Starting point is 02:00:07 down that he doesn't actually know enough to argue with him. So he has to submit and say yeah that's probably one of the big reasons. It was probably Israel. Anyone who listens to Alex's show and pays attention to him and thinks this shit means anything should be offended by that spineless response. Alex has been very clear that his position is that JFK was assassinated because he was going to dissolve the CIA take down the Federal Reserve and because he didn't sign on to Operation Northwoods. At least that's his position when there's no one else there to challenge him. Whenever anyone else is there he gets way less certain and pretty much any theory is totally probably a big part of the assassination. He's such a fucking fraud and the fact that he has
Starting point is 02:00:46 any audience retention is evidence that his listeners aren't actually listening. It's kind of sad kind of sad. Yeah. You know one thing that occurs to me is I think now none of us should really be surprised that JFK was assassinated because there were so many reasons to assassinate him. You know well like everybody's got so many reasons. Everybody's got their own reason. This is a man who was begging for assassination practically based upon how everybody thinks that all the stuff he did caused his assassination. Right. But those theories have had 50 years to come together. Like it's not like the day after all of these theories were robustly there. Like yeah any big major world event you can come up with a hundred different
Starting point is 02:01:36 explanations for why something happened. See so we shouldn't be surprised. Great. So yeah is an educator as he said. I don't see how that's possible. No but Alex should be a little bit. He should take note of shit like this and realize like this is ideological. This is not one of your scam buddies playing along with the system. So stop looking at us like celebrities like we're trying to get media. We're using our position putting our finances putting our personal well being at risk to say the truth out loud. And I was on the plane with Nick and I said it feels like we're in Vietnam in the middle of the war when I back to the wall holding our guns and saying you know Nick how did you get here. Yeah. How did you get here. All the guns are going off
Starting point is 02:02:23 and all the media is going off and say this is info wars. Right. So you got some info warriors on both sides of you and you fought for us. You've been fighting this battle for a long time Alex and we just got to salute you as a Christian and as an American because you paved the way to make braver soldiers like us today. It's like Terminator part 10 happening right now. Yeah I think Alex generally likes to hear stuff like that but maybe today maybe not that not the proudest moment. Not the day. No. No. Hey Alex thanks for walking so I could run and say that Hitler was cool and I like Nazis. The Jewish media is run amuck. Yeah it's real cool that you guys get to act like you're in a war. I just have to sit here and watch. Fun to get credit for
Starting point is 02:03:08 enabling this bullshit. Yep. So Alex suggests hey you know you should get something to eat. We've all eaten. It turns out it turns out Kanye can't eat. Well we'll take breaks and stuff too and get you know yeah to eat something or whatever me and that got somebody he hasn't eaten yet and we're just I stay fasting. He just that's why you won't eat. I'm trying to eat. So I'm like I'm like Italian mind you mind you. So we're going to I got to watch. I got to watch my accounts because they've been frozen by the Jewish banks. So which one to watch my meal. Exactly. Well CNN says why people are evil. Nazi. So I mean I disagree with both statements but I get I don't like the word evil next to Nazis. I think we need to look at. Oh my goodness. You can see again
Starting point is 02:03:54 Alex's knee jerk reaction to you say saying something like the Jewish banks froze my account is to rattle off his stock line about how the left says white people are bad. Is your shit so bad when CNN says white people are evil. He isn't even thinking this is pure anti Semitism deflection reflexes. And again he doesn't care. He's there to demonize Jewish people support Nazis and pump up Hitler. That's what his entire media campaign is more or less about and he is not interested in watering that down. Like he said in that last clip this isn't about clout for him. This is an ideological thing that he believes himself to be a teacher about. So no matter how many times Alex tries to both sides this it's going to fail. It's really sad
Starting point is 02:04:36 and it kind of reveals how few tricks Alex really has. You're saying he doesn't have any tools. He has a couple of go to lines that usually work like when he's alone or if he's drunkenly yelling at people on the street and it doesn't really work when you're talking to an actual bigot. Yep. They don't care. Yeah. They're not impressed by your stupid shit. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah. So this next clip actually really highlights this dichotomy between the two of them. I don't I don't like the word evil next to Nazis. I think we need to look at Oh my goodness. Just because you don't like one group doesn't mean the other. I love Jewish people but I also love Nazis. What. Oh man. Well I have to disagree with that. But listen
Starting point is 02:05:20 we're going to go to break. I don't like either. I'm the I'm the crazy one here. We're all crazy. The whole world's crazy and the whole power structures coming down. This is absolutely lit. This is lit lit lit lit lit lit. Number one show in the world right now. Everybody's tuned in everywhere. Whoo. So that's the difference between them. Yeah. Yay is wearing a face mask saying ridiculously anti-semitic shit and rejecting every lifeline Alex tries to throw him. He is not interested in maintaining an image or being popular. Conversely Alex is forcing himself to laugh at yay's dumb shit essentially begging him to just soften this a little bit and celebrating how many viewers have tuned in. Yeah. That's what's important to Alex. There are tons of people
Starting point is 02:06:00 watching so who cares about the messages being sent and what kind of harm is being done. Yeah. If we can get more viewers by slandering the parents of murdered children the ends justify the means. If we can get more eyes on the show by giving an unhinged bigot and his baby racist friend three hours on air to say whatever they want while you give the limpest fucking pushback imaginable if it's going to sell a few more pills let it rip man. Just let it go. Yeah. This is just spectacle. It's cynical. I mean yeah. I thought I thought the Tim Pool thing was a freak show. This is an absolute fucking nightmare. This is this should be shown on TLC for fucks sake. And I understand that we're ways into our episode here. Yeah. But it gets worse. This isn't as bad
Starting point is 02:06:43 as it gets. Oh my god. This is kind of small potatoes in many ways. Jesus Christ. So you know Laura Loomer called earlier and they they decided they needed to get her back. Of course. And so she calls in. It's really funny because honestly it just seems like she's she's in a position where she's like hey look all of you people have been canceled. I have to why was I invited. So sad. Why was I going to be canceled. No. Holly Alexander. I was going to try to shotgun. Yeah. He doesn't want to wear an earpiece. So he's going to call Laura Loomer. Yeah. So we're going to put Laura Loomer on the way. She was originally going to be on earlier. Yeah. You're hosting the show. Go ahead. Laura. Can you guys hear Laura on the mic.
Starting point is 02:07:32 What they're doing is they're talking to her out there. I told them 45 minutes ago. So tell her you're on the mic. Tell her you're going to call her. They didn't do that because it's such a party. Can you guys hear her. Laura say some she's not going to Laura Loomer. Yeah. Laura you're on the air. Go ahead. How's it going. You're on the air with you. Go ahead. He wants to do it over speakerphone. Go ahead. Well look I just wanted to call in. You know I see that everybody on this stream has been canceled in some fashion and you know I've also been canceled and you know I have a unique perspective because you know I'm Jewish and I happen to be one of the most banned and censored
Starting point is 02:08:16 person people in this country. This is a little bit desperate. Yeah. This is sad. This is sad. This is this is you know I think I've mentioned an episode a while back. I think I said this but this is the most dark version of the Chris Gethard show. This is exactly like the ditty episode but evil. Yeah. There is something to that. There's a sort of clunky call in. Is Nick the human fish. Yeah. I don't like thinking about it that way but yeah. Yeah. I mean it is public access. It's very least it's that it's uncontrolled chaos. It's I mean it's bananas. This is bananas. So you know who cares about Laura Loomer but yeah he even loves Zionists. So one of the
Starting point is 02:09:13 ways that he's trying to present this whole thing about loving Nazis and loving Hitler is I love everybody. I love the Zionists and such. Right. Then he explains this a hierarchical power structure that he sees. I love the Zionist. I love the people that that blocked my bank account because God runs the world and uses everyone. There's a power structure under God that starts with a thousand year old family such as the Medici's. Then it goes. I'm sorry. What now. The Vatican which is in bloodline to Peter. Not Paul. Then it goes to the financial groups Black Rock Vanguard and then to the governments where we can go into Putin territory. Wait. God's power. And then it goes to Hollywood the ramen manual. That is the first smoke screen
Starting point is 02:10:03 to get past and we're just breaking down those smoke screens. Hey Ari. How are you doing Ari. Seems to really just sort of you know talk about Ari Emmanuel a lot. I think he may have just played too much Assassin's Creed. I think he's just kind of gone a little bit too far with the whole Templars Assassin's thing. The Medici's. A thousand year old family. He mentioned the council of 300 Jewish elders or whatever earlier. How does that factor into this. That's not in his power structure. No idea. Also why is Ram Emmanuel considered part of Hollywood. I mean I think probably because yay is incapable of thinking clearly. He doesn't actually understand what he's saying. Let alone truly believe what it is. Let me give you another. Let me give you another
Starting point is 02:10:49 theory. Sure. Roman manuals Jewish. Oh it could be that. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex has an idea for a new political party. What about a what about a first amendment or a bill of rights party. You know that could transcend party lines. You don't like the bill of rights pro-dissult defense of first amendment second amendment party. I mean how do we fix this yet. We fix this with the word of Christ. The first book of Moses called Genesis in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void and darkness was on the face of the deep and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. That's where we start and they know that's what Prometheus shows that. Oh OK. Total Prometheus. Total Prometheus.
Starting point is 02:11:42 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He just took out his Bible and started on page one. That's a good. That's a good way to start. I would recommend he continue. I would. I would recommend he read the whole thing. Yeah. And really kind of put together what it is he's thinking. Here is my political party. Page one. First one. In the beginning was the word. The word was will God. The word was God. Nick has another idea for a party. Yeah. I want to jump in and say that I agree. I think though that it's not so much about the Bill of Rights. I think it's really more about Christian blowing. I think that what it needs is a Christian party. I agree. Politicians. You're right. Crisis first. Right. And it gets to the nature of Judaism, which is the fact that Jews do not believe that
Starting point is 02:12:27 Christ was the Son of God. And in fact, they're the only group that hate Jesus. Muslims see Jesus as a prophet. Buddhists, Hindus see Jesus as a spiritual figure. Jews write in their Talmud that Christ is burning in hell. They don't like the cross. I think that's because he's kind of was taken over the thing. So at the end of the day, we worship a Jew or we say he's not really a Jew. It's not the same thing, though, because the kind of Judaism that we have now is not of the Old Testament. It's of the rabbinical oral tradition. So these people are worshiping. They're not following the Old Testament. They're following the Zohar and the Talmud and all that. That's right. Exactly. So I mean, we people should read that for themselves. Oh, this is a deeply
Starting point is 02:13:05 anti-Semitic statement Nick is making. And Alex is just going to go along with it, offering up that people just read the Talmud for themselves. Sure. This is bullshit. And Alex is not pushing back in this interview at all. He's fully engaged. It's just kind of hard to see that at times, because his role isn't necessarily to say the same things as Yeh and Nick. It's to give an ineffectual pushback and try to sanitize the things they're saying so people don't see them for what they actually are. There have definitely been tensions between Jewish groups and Christian groups historically. But the stuff in the Talmud that Nick is talking about is an old anti-Semitic smear. In the Talmud, there are references to a magician named Balaam, who's remembered for trying
Starting point is 02:13:43 to curse Jewish people. These references are understandably not positive. There were theories at points in history that the mentions of Balaam were coded references to Jesus, but these theories have been debunked. Yet they are still perpetuated and asserted by anti-Semites like Nick in order to incite hatred toward the Jews in Christians. Sure. Here's a passage about Jesus from the Talmud. Quote, the intent of the creator of the world is not within the power of man to comprehend, for his ways are not our ways, nor are his thoughts our thoughts. Ultimately, all the deeds of Jesus of Nazareth will only serve to prepare the way for Meshiach's coming and the improvement of the entire world, motivating the nations to serve God together. Nick is referencing
Starting point is 02:14:27 passages that were about Balaam, like this one. Quote, the disciples of Balaam the wicked inherit Gehenom and descend into the Nethermost pit. Gehenom is somewhat synonymous or analogous to hell in the Talmud. He is passing along an old anti-Semitic smear, and Alex says literally no ability or interest to engage with what he's doing, essentially allowing this slander to be legitimized in the eyes of the audience. They should read it for themselves. Because Jesus was trying to take over the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, now that I know that what they're really mad at is a magician, I guess I gotta agree with them, you know, because what says it's worth murdering an entire race of people more than they made fun of a magician?
Starting point is 02:15:15 And the magician, for what I understand, was pretty mean to them, too. He's pretty much of a dick. Anyway, yay gets to yelling and complaining about being on Drink Champs. Sure. That podcast where he said a bunch of anti-Semitic shit. And yeah. You know, God loves me so much. He loves me so much, right? Then I go to Drink Champs and I'm drinking and the Bible says, King, don't drink, right? I noticed that. Milo, I know I'm not saying it in correct, perfect English, but the Bible says King, don't drink. And I'm drinking and I'm smoking and I'm using my ego because I'm tired of, I'm tired of these, like, fed things. They're like, I'm lit. I'm lit. Let me say I'm tired of these fed celebrities trying to pick on me thinking that they gangster. We're not in high school, Meek
Starting point is 02:16:04 Mills. We're not in high school, Puff Daddy. And everyone thinks that there's so much more gangster like they got me in some way. Meek Mills went to jail. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying that. Oh, no. Everybody poses an active tough. It's nothing. You talk about rebel, black sheep. I mean, you're definitely it, buddy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not tough to me, but I'm drinking and then I start saying stuff that doesn't please God, right? It wasn't the Zionists. It wasn't the banks. It's God sent me back. But the fact that the fact that I still had 400 million and Forbes couldn't get around it, it showed God loves me, but he just had to, he had to send me back a little. Well, it's a Jobein proverb. You're going through a Jobein trial. Sorry, what? Yeah, man. If Alex
Starting point is 02:16:46 actually believes that what Ye is going through is a Job like trial, then he must think that God wants Ye to be really anti-Semitic and a piece of shit. And the devil is trying to tempt him to cut it out. Or maybe the devil's trying to tempt him into finishing thoughts. What if, what if this is a new Job, but instead of an uplifting story, it's the one where Joe loses and was like, dude, you're right. I will hate the Jews. This devil guy is dope. Maybe he met Joe Bluth. Oh, could be. This does have more of a Joe Bluth vibe to it. Yeah. He's going around sticking his foot in his face. And Ye stole, I'm sorry, a resident development stole Mr. Banana Grabber. That is true. Promote Benjamin. Yeah. There's some more talk about Kanye in his drink champs period and such.
Starting point is 02:17:38 Sure. He ended up serving the devil. You know what's odd is there's this thing that Jesus said and is going to blow your mind. What's that? So he was talking about how if you look out and you see somebody with like a big old timber or like a little, a little stick in their eye, you know, you know, you should, you should worry about the timber in your own fucking eye before you start causing problems for other people. So maybe Kanye shut the fuck up about other people and figure your own shit out. Well, but that's the thing. He did. He did. I don't think he was serving the devil and now he's gotten on the right path that he's serving God. He's been two days without porn. Shut up. Listen, you serve in the devil. Okay. Since I lost my wife, right?
Starting point is 02:18:21 Since I lost my family and I was no longer the priest right in the middle of that home. And I didn't have to say so over the content that my kids watch and what they, and what they wore and where they went to school and how we went to church and what they ate. I was frustrated and I let the devil come and get me. Next thing you know, I'm at, I'm at New Year's Eve parties having threesomes. I'm like, God was so mad at me. He said, I empowered you. I gave you every skill set. You're like Moses. You saved Caesar's life in battle twice. You know, you might stutter. You might not be the best indicator, but you're a leader. Yeah. And you're down there. You're not representing me. You're drinking. You're having sex and you know what? And God, he waited on me.
Starting point is 02:19:09 He let me go, you know, eight months into the year, but it wasn't till I bragged about serving Satan with the actions that God said, I got to set you back now and set you straight. And then, so we're moving my school, we're moving the Donda theology engineering university into a church. And we were there talking with the pastor and then a homeless gentleman came in and was talking to us. And I said, is this a plant? I don't know, but this is the greatest theology. Kill this man. And I had him come to a Bible study. We were, we were working on the, the walk to the house. I don't like to call it a campaign. We're working to the walk. Yeah, hold on. This is a hard break at the end of the hour. Stations rejoin us. I skipped the other
Starting point is 02:19:52 break. We got to have this. We're back in two minutes. We got to do this hard break. And I asked, do you want to put a website out or people can actually hear what you have to say? I want you to remind me what I'm saying so I can give this explanation. No, no, you told me on the phone the story that the, uh, I need to tell the people though. No, no, you will. I'm going to remember. It's the amazing homeless guy comes in. Yeah. And he gives you this incredible word. All right. I don't care about the website. I care about Jesus Christ and people knowing that I get it, but they also got to know where to actually find what you're actually saying. I'm just only place to find it is in the Bible. My website is the Bible. Nick, where people find what you're
Starting point is 02:20:21 doing. Cozy dot hell slash Nick and the fucking hell. All right. Nick, Nick's a little bit more interested in that. You should also go to my website. Yeah. Look at Bible. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. But also my website. Yeah. Um, so yeah, that was a little bit, uh, all over the place. So he served Satan or something, uh, because he had three sons, right? Right. And then he met a homeless guy. Uh, we never get the end of this story, by the way. Alex does not remind him about we're good. Yeah. Oh, we got the story. I think Alex was good. If I recall correctly, uh, first Kanye turned him away and then it turned out that he was a witch. So he cursed him. Uh, he has to live in the castle for the rest of his life until the flower finally wilts. Right? Yeah. You told me on the
Starting point is 02:21:07 phone. I don't need to hear this again. That makes me wonder if it's like a really fucked up story. Yeah. I am not going to remind you of this. I just want to remind people that when Kanye says he heard God, that is not metaphorical. He'd literally heard that. I'm not joking. That is not slight. I've heard God before because bipolar will do that shit to you. Auditory hallucinations. Hell yeah, baby. So, uh, porno, bad, evil. Sure. According to yay. Every form of pornography is only one is only 10 years away from pedophilia. Makes sense to me. Watching pornography. If you're watching a woman have sex on camera, she's reliving the trauma of being molested like all of them. A greater majority of women that end up being strippers, prostitutes or or
Starting point is 02:22:02 pornographers, adult film stars have gone through the trauma of experience, pet experiencing pedophilia. But sex is a legal drug that's pushed to destroy humanity. If you drive down the street in California, they will be pushing strip clubs. They're pushing alcohol. They're pushing sex. It's this is like, so for people to have this moral code about pedophilia, but no moral code about strip clubs, pornography in the sex industry, it's not what the Bible says. The Bible says that all of that is wrong. So Jesus said so or Jesus said no. I hate to overanalyze things, but based on the things yay is saying, it seems really clear to me that he has some kind of an issue with porn. He keeps bringing it up. He said that he played a role in destroying his
Starting point is 02:22:50 marriage. And overall, it really seems like sex is a big problem for him. His discussion of working for Satan involved threesomes, which seems really tame for the devil. If I had to guess, I would assume that he has a bit of a problem when it comes to impulse control and that it expresses itself through sex and pornography. Instead of dealing with that and going to therapy, he's decided to internalize the neo-Nazi argument that pornography is a weapon that Jews use to destroy society. And in order to turn this into some kind of a high-minded idea, he's presenting it as a concern for people engaged in sex work. It's all really stupid, but it kind of feels in line with the trend of the things he's saying. And it's no coincidence that he's fallen in with Milo, Nick,
Starting point is 02:23:31 and Owen Benjamin, all three of whom are Catholic fascists and followers of E. Michael Jones, who is one of the most high-profile proponents of the Jews attack society with pornography narrative. It all just fits in more with the path and trend that he has towards just being anti-Semite. See, here's the thing, Dan. What you're not understanding is that sex workers, again, like all women, have experienced trauma at the hands of men. So what we need to do is take away their independent source of income that allows them to exist in their own lives with their own control over themselves and then dominate them forever with the Bible. Duh! Yeah, he does seem to have a bit of prescriptive ideas about how things should go that involve
Starting point is 02:24:21 control. Seems odd. Yeah. Seems odd, but he wants to control everything that his family does. Oh, wait. No, that's normal for... Yeah. So, again, the Balenciaga stuff comes up. Still doing that, huh? And, you know, obviously, it's a big issue because Yale was involved with them, and now they're the center of this Pizza Gate 4.0 or whatever we're at now. Fine, great. Whatever. And he thinks it's a distraction. Balenciaga, though, you were going to... I mean, just overall, what do you... because obviously, you were the lot of fashion brands. Now, the stuff's come out. It's almost like they did this on purpose as a PR stunt. Everyone does it on purpose. You know, I'm friends with the head designer,
Starting point is 02:25:06 and I believe that it was a setup. I think it was a hit job. And now, all of a sudden, everyone is so outraged and focused on Balenciaga, but then we're still avoiding our kids. We're still fornicating. We're still killing each other. We're still listening to music that promotes that. But, oh, we don't wear Balenciaga now. Shut the hell up. You know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, what are you doing? You're throwing stones. Oh, my God. But, you know, our moral code. We just cheated on our wives. We just fornicated. We just had three sums. We just bought some sex on Instagram. We just sold some sex. We used sex to sell a product, but we don't like Balenciaga. Shut up. Shut up. I'm throwing the tablets right now. Shut up.
Starting point is 02:25:57 Instagram is about prostitution, and everyone involved in any version of the sex business is as bad as the pedophile. So, everyone, shut up. Yeah. I'm listening. Yeah. You listening? It is odd. Now, I'm going to throw this out there. It might be somewhat un-Christian, uncri- I mean, maybe my interpretation of the Bible is wrong. It's not. But, he seems very interested in his own problems and very dismissive towards everyone else's thoughts and opinions. Well, they should just shut up. That is a good point. I hadn't considered that before. And, apparently, Instagram is basically prostitution because people post sexual images. Sure. People in swimsuits and what have you. My wife shows me pictures, like little clips of, like,
Starting point is 02:26:50 this place has foxes. They raise foxes. They're so cute. They make a little laughing. Oh, my God, it's the cutest. No. Anyways, pornographer. That's pedophilia, man. Yeah, that's a foxophilia. Oh, Nelly. So, we get a little bit of a talk about something else, a different issue, namely, Ukraine. What else is on your radar? Because there's a lot. What do you think about the Ukraine war? What do you think about the devaluation of the dollar? What do you think about FTX and Bitcoin? Why would I care what Ye thinks about these things? Well, yeah, in terms of Ukraine and Russia, I haven't really seen so much of that in the news. I'm, of course, pro-Putin. I'm very pro-Russia. I am also. Let's go. Yeah. We know. Let's go. We know. Let's go. Like, they just won American
Starting point is 02:27:33 Ninja. Let's go. We love Putin. Fucking hell. Not quite a surprise. This is comically stupid. This is bononkers. Yeah. And like I said, it gets worse. Oh, and Shroyer shows up. What is he have to add? Oh, something. Something so insightful. What, lighting fire to Black Lives Matter flag in front of Kanye? That's a smart idea. Do that. No, no, no. Do that. You racist pieces of shit. He's going to be so insightful. Oh, odd. I'll hold my questions for Ye later, because I kind of want to come in because we have a lot of eyes on this transmission right now. And there's a lot of people sharing their opinions on the internet with this right now. And so I kind of just want to, you know, I just want to take a step back and just say, look, we're in a difficult
Starting point is 02:28:19 realm with what we're doing here today, trying to balance fun and seriousness, because we are serious people. We have serious missions and goals, but we also want to have fun. We don't want to hate life. We want to enjoy life and we want other people to enjoy life. And when I see the response on the internet from the haters and the people getting angry today, I'm just, I'm just a little perturbed. Let ye speak. Let the man speak. You may not agree with what he has to say, but why don't you want him to speak? I don't get it. Same thing with Alex Jones. Why don't you want Alex to speak? What is wrong with you? What the fuck is he even saying? Like, first of all, this show is neither funny nor serious. It's a complete pile of bullshit that's
Starting point is 02:28:57 intended to mainstream and sanitize incredibly dangerous narratives for the sake of getting Alex more viewers. It's a shameful exercise in nihilism. But zooming out as Owen would say, who the fuck is stopping Ye from speaking? Some people who are saying that it's fucked up that he's into Hitler on Twitter? That doesn't seem to have any effect on how much or how little Ye is yelling and saying this stuff. Yeah. Owen is seeing negative responses to what Ye is saying and then getting mad at that. But he knows that it would sound like he's an idiot baby if he's just saying that he felt like him and all of his bigot friends are entitled to only get positive feedback from people. To avoid having to sound that weak and fragile, he recontextualizes it and
Starting point is 02:29:35 pretends the people being justifiably offended by what Ye is saying is somehow stopping him from speaking. It's bullshit. And when you hear stuff like this, it's important to recognize that all it is is Owen weaponizing his own insecurity because he's a fucking child. Anyway, I lied when I said he was being insightful. That was kind of a joke. I find Ye's obsession and hatred towards pornography and fornication very ironic considering everybody around him right now is metaphorically on their knees with their head bobbing up and down underneath the desk. Do you know what I'm saying? Because this is shameful. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Yeah. How about this one though? And those people that are out there mad at the ability for us to say things for consciousness,
Starting point is 02:30:22 we have to, I have to think, okay, white lives matter. I'm going to do a t-shirt. I'm going to make it. You understand what culture is controlled by the Zionist media, making people mad, outraged, going out the street. We're so outraged, but you're not doing anything yourself to change it and follow God and follow Christ. And I'm selling shirts against God today. I'm a good person. Love everyone. So if I say I love the Zionist that that canceled my account, then I could say I love, I didn't not consent. I do love Hitler. I do love the Zionist. I love everyone. The Zionist cannot tell me who I can love and not love. I don't think like that. I think more like someone that's on the spectrum. Since that's what they want to claim. Well, let me be on the spectrum of love
Starting point is 02:31:06 because that's a good t-shirt. I love Hitler bar. That's a bar. I'm joking. I love, I love Zionist too. So yeah, what culture is controlled by the Zionist media? Sure. Cool. Cool. I mean, it is just getting kind of a bit repetitive. You know, yeah, not to him though. I find myself not having as much really even to say in terms of like analysis of a lot of this stuff. It's just, well, here, here this is. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we accidentally convinced a bipolar person while they were relatively saying that they were basically the Messiah. And then whenever they went to the manic side, oops, we've got an actual Messiah. Now we're really fucked. Maybe not whoops for Alex though. Nope. I mean, he gets a lot of free pub out of it. That's true. So Ali Alexander shows
Starting point is 02:32:03 up and he shows that he has pretty like a decent awareness of like in studio or on the phone. He's in studio. Yeah. But he seems to have kind of an awareness of like what they're doing. Okay. You can look at this interview and you can be triggered. You know, you can engage your ego and say yay endorsed genocide when he didn't. You can look at this broadcast and say, Nicholas Fuentes is a 23, 24 year old, you know, secret dog whistling KKK Nazi. But that's also not the case. You could say that Alex Jones and Owen Shroyer are actually platforming hate, but that's not what's going on at all. And I think we're all just sucking Kanye's dick right now narrative history is that we're breaking the overton window. The Republican establishment
Starting point is 02:32:50 sold that in the window conservative movement sold us out. The churches, they closed. So when we look for leadership on the right, there was none. Okay. When Owen Shroyer got charged, when Ali Alexander got sued and investigated, Alex, when you got sued, did we get a call from our logo saying, Hey, I'm a billionaire and I want to I want to help fund what you guys have been through for me. Trump can't afford it either. So here we are left with the last option on info wars, the home of the resistance. And we're a bunch of pseudo celebrities with one celebrity saying, Okay, well, we're just going to break a bunch of losers. We're getting off your transport because it is rigged. It's rigged by Lucifer. It's rigged by the Satanist. It is rigged
Starting point is 02:33:30 by the Jewish mafia and people don't want to say that it's rigged by the Marxist and the leftist and all of these people. And it's actually frankly rigged by people who would, you know, betray Christ within the church, the apostates. So I think that this broadcast should encourage everybody to take everyone else just at their word, only use what they're saying, take it in good faith and in the best light and stop relying on the ADL and the SPLC or Twitter trends. In fact, Elon should get rid of Twitter trends. All right. All right. Okay. Taking care of the big issues there. But look, Ali is very clearly aware that what they're doing is basically being like, look, shit didn't work with the other stuff. Let's try to mask off. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see how
Starting point is 02:34:15 mask off works. Yeah. They tried lying. Let's just say we want to kill the Jews. I bet more people would agree with us than you think. Nobody. Look, we thought Trump was going to be the exact. This was going to work. Finally. Didn't work. Nope. Didn't work. We tried to take over the Capitol. Really tried. Didn't go well. Work. So our last option. Look at this guy. We got a celebrity who's into Hitler. Yeah. It turns out we're dumb. So we're trying this now. Yeah. We're trying yay as our avenue to political success. Well, and at very least, uh, wreak some sort of vengeance on the conservative establishment or the world, the world of the right wing that turned their back on these Nazis. Yeah. Here's, here's what I'll say to Ali's point. Maybe one people can rig
Starting point is 02:35:15 something or a group of people. So many. But if everybody has rigged something, then in reality, that's just the system and you're not invited. Well, I do think that Ali's not invited. I would like to uninvite him from all stuff. I would say my biggest response to Ali's grow up. I mean, this is get over it. Grow up. Yeah. And if I had to sort of just re frame what he's saying, it would be, wow. Yeah, that's a good one too. Yeah. So Kanye talks about, excuse me. Yay. He talks about his mom dying. Apparently she was a Zionist sacrifice. I am for you said your mother was sacrificed. Can you elaborate on that? Yeah, I believe that Michael Jordan's dad was sacrificed. I believe, uh, didn't some happen
Starting point is 02:36:06 with Tiger Woods? Yeah. Uh, my mom, these are all just a thing, uh, sacrifices that happen. But this is Satan at the end of the day. There's a lot of people that feel like we're at the end of days and Jesus runs the world. God runs the world. Jesus is the real king of Israel. And I'm, I'm just a simple servant of God. Yeah. Zionist sacrifices is apparently on the table now with a no real, uh, pushback to speak of from Alex about, uh, what do you mean by that? Sure. Uh, yeah. What is a Zionist sacrifice? You know, it's one of the sacrifices. Uh-huh. That's what they do. Uh-huh. They sacrifice things to the things and then now the stuff is done. Sure. So, uh, so if I understand correctly, that wasn't one of the inciting events that
Starting point is 02:36:58 led to Kanye being anti-Semitic though. No, that was just a thing that happened. Sure. Well, you mean the thing with Tiger Woods? Yeah, I guess. Clearly he doesn't even remember that one. No, not, that was a pretty low keys. Yeah. Yeah. That was not the biggest sign of sacrifice of all. Um, so in this next clip, uh, yay seems to be begging celebrities to murder him. Okay. All right. This is weird. They want to dumb us down and I'm probably the lowest IQ here of anyone speaking and I'm saying that's a competition. I don't want to judge. It would no longer be ran by the idea of fake influence in celebrities. I did. I'm going to interrupt you. No, no, no, hold on. Alex, don't interrupt me. I denounce, I denounce every celebrity. I denounce every
Starting point is 02:37:44 celebrity I ever stood next to. God bless you. And you know, that's the Christian word of what I really want to say. Any celebrity, only celebrity that I rock with is Ray J. Literally every, every one of y'all others, y'all all soft. Come see me when y'all want to see me. Every fake gangster, so-called killer, any basketball player, any rapper, any actress, any musician, any model, any editor. Come see me. Come see God's child right now. Please. I want it. I want, I want to see my mama. You know what I'm saying? Dude, you can't, you can't touch in Jesus' name, baby. I was going to say this though. I want to be clear. You can't touch him, Jesus. You say you're the lowest IQ anybody here. I'm not kissing your ass. Yeah, that's not true. Okay. Good. Good. Good. Really,
Starting point is 02:38:35 really taking the temperature of what's, what's happening and responding to yeah, getting back to that important thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I find the, the, the smacking noises that they're making to be very pornographic as well. Stop it. So he insists that, yeah, he isn't dumb. He doesn't have a low IQ. And he has a big dad. And Alex is, you have the biggest penis too. Hey, your penis is so big. Alex is quite smart himself. Sure. And he's an idiot savant, and you'll never guess what his superpower is. Jesus. I can tell you I'm an idiot savant. That's a French word doesn't mean I'm actually an idiot. It means that I don't know a lot of stuff, but things I know, I know, like I don't even get into it, folks, but it's, it's ridiculous. Okay. I can
Starting point is 02:39:18 wake up at 2am, 5am, and Cardi also. And I can tell you what time the clock is going to say before I look at it. The little weird thing I can do. The point is, is that, is that, is that there's savants that actually bring the world to the next level. Yeah. So Alex's idiot savant-ness is that he always knows what time it is. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I gotta see the post credit scene. Does Nick Fury show up at the end of this episode? We need you. We need you for the Avengers initiative. Can't imagine that that is a useful power. Because he's saying that he knows what time is going to be on the clock before he looks at it and the existence of the clock renders his power useless. Yeah. And Alex has a bunch of watches that are very expensive. Expensive watches.
Starting point is 02:40:04 So I would see, I would feel like he doesn't need those. Nope. Nope. He was this savant. He doesn't need clocks either. He only needs clocks to confirm that he has this power. Sure. You always want to be reassured. So, Ali has an interesting sort of policy. Sorry. You're laughing at me saying Ali is something interesting. No, no, no. I just, I just had the thought that of Alex, that no one man should have all that power. To be able to tell what time it is without looking at a clock. It is very ripe for abuse. So, listen to this shit. Yeah. And Nick is actually the person who's talked best about this. And this is where I think that like Laura Loomer, who is a Zionist Jew, conservative and patriot, and then you, who are kind of libertarian or conservatarian and, and,
Starting point is 02:40:52 and Owen's kind of conservatarian would disagree with Nick and I, who, you know, might be in more of the Catholic tradition. We would totally support blasphemy laws. Totally. You know, and I don't want to speak for him. But, you know, what Nick points out is that you have to have a right to dissent. That is way more powerful than, you know, move free speech where we're actually rigging the system to have what yeah, he's talking about Instagram. Absolutely. Ali, we're gonna come right back to you in a moment. Yeah. He wants me to tweet on his giant with 35 million viewers, 36. Yeah, we're going to have Alex Jones. Put it up for my Twitter. Hi, Ari, Emmanuel. How's it going? How's your wife's clothing line? Jesus. Oh my God, Ali, you are such a loser.
Starting point is 02:41:32 I mean, this is supposed to be a free speech pageant, you know, basically, and here Ali is advocating for on behalf of Nick, you don't want to speak for him, but he's saying me and Nick agree on this. We should have blasphemy laws. What I would like is Sharia law. Now I know that we've talked in the past about how it's bad, but have you considered beheading people who say God sucks? It seems a little weird. It seems like a weird position. The first time you behead somebody, you're like, this may be a little too far, but you get used to it. But how exciting is it that yay is going to let Alex tweet? Yeah, I mean, it is it is funny that we have to interrupt your belief that blasphemy should be executable with I get to tweet from Kanye's Twitter account.
Starting point is 02:42:15 Well, to be fair, he didn't say what the exact punishment would be. You're assuming it's beheading. Well, I mean, I know what a blasphemy law is and it doesn't end well. Sometimes God is usually pretty pissed off about sometimes there's chill blasphemy laws. Anyway, Alex tweets. Hey, let's do an overhead shot here, please, guys. I can do this. I haven't tweeted so long. I hardly remember how this works. You guys do an overhead shot for me. All right. So this is a yay's phone here. And I just want to say I love don't don't love L. O. V. The juice don't don't you want to say that? It's true. I do love them. First, I say amendment AMT. AMDT, I think. Sure. Yeah, I got it. I love the first amendment. See, it's a fun thing for him
Starting point is 02:43:09 to tweet right after Ali was advocating for blasphemy laws, blasphemy laws. I love the first amendment. However, that shouldn't count against God because there should be a one world religion and it's mine. I didn't have any problem with or even a response to Ali saying that I love the first amendment. Love the first amendment. Fuck up. They are so giddy because they pass the phone around and they all get to tweet from. Yeah, I mean the amount of star fuckery pathetic bullshit that these people engage in while at the same time pretending that they are at any sense of the word, a powerful man. Fuck off. Yeah, it's a little bit. What a bunch of coward. Meanwhile, yeah, yay continues to be obsessed with Ari Emanuel's wife. This is what I'm saying. All of
Starting point is 02:43:52 them are like jerking Kanye West off nonstop. And yay is just out here to do whatever he fucking wants to weirdly and sort of vaguely sexually threaten Ari. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad that billions are going to visit him for Ari Emanuel. If your wife needs any help on her creative direction for a line, I will gladly help you even though you tried to destroy my life. I will help your wife on the creative direction and I will not do anything on Christian when we're in the room together in Jesus name. Ari, if you wait, which Christian help your wife with her life, your Christianity is fucking weird now. Okay. What'd you put out? We're gonna put it on screen. I put out Christ is King, America first, Groyper. And then I put beautiful Bible dot com. Beautiful.
Starting point is 02:44:36 Did you put the info worth it? Yeah, he does. It's good. I'll give him a heart attack. I go Ali Alexander. What are you going to tweet from yay's Twitter? Yeah, he did have his Twitter suspended. Not for this, I don't think, but a little bit after this, Elon kicked him back on whatever who fucking cares. So anyway, they are all so excited to tweet. And then Alex has to pee. So he leaves. That's the smartest thing he's done this whole show. I will say, you know, I've been pretty critical of Alex and I stand by that. Yeah, but the show does grind to a halt when he leaves. It is brutal. It's not very long, but there is a drop in energy. I don't know exactly why these are all people who love to talk. Yeah. But some for some reason, it just does not work out
Starting point is 02:45:28 until Ali starts doing a little bit improv free Alex free Nick Nicholas free speech free speech and free Ali. This is the level of typing I expect boom by a boom by a boom by a I don't know if that's it ducking autocorrect. I hate all of these cells. Here we go. Did we get the overhead of that? Let's get the team to get the camera get the camera. I love the crew. I love the crew, but get the camera zoom in. That's what I want. Get the mask. Get the mask. Yeah, I missed the next. Oh, you want me to redo the skit? I do it. All right. I love this crew, but you know, sometimes sometimes they could just be stubborn. Zoom in overhead shot. Zoom in overhead shot.
Starting point is 02:46:31 I'm sorry. I'm just a retard. We love Alex. Let us do this. It's there's kind of the feeling of a kid who no one really likes. Yeah, but has cool stuff. Yeah. And so people are kind of using him to get that stuff. Yeah. And then when he's out of the room, they kind of make fun of him, but they're alive right on his show on his show. That's the kind of vibe. Yeah. This gives also when he says the mask, there's a Alex mask. Yeah. And so Ali puts that on to pretend. Yeah. I mean, it's a bit of a, I mean, it's it's an impression that I would certainly do, but I would be insulting Alex. Right. And I believe that is a little bit insulting and I mean, if you step back though, there is something very progressive about a black man
Starting point is 02:47:25 in America forcing white supremacists to dance for him. That's kind of powerful. You know, I mean, yeah, whatever. Anyway, there's a big audience and Alex is really excited about it. So he wants you to give a message and here's what he chooses. Yeah. Who knows? Maybe Kanye, maybe yay was never here. He's never a disrespect when I call you Kanye. I've just been calling you there for 15 years. So it's like, you call him my, you know, my brother or something. I'm going to call him Kanye. Yeah, he's even better. Fuck him. It's definitely taken to take and hold. I guess an awesome name, but, but, but seriously, yay. What else do you want to tweet out to folks? Is everything right
Starting point is 02:48:03 now is going super mega total viral? What is your message to Trump right now? What's your message to the Santas right now? I don't know who the Santas is. I never heard of the guy. No, I hear you. Well, all the elites back in the stands gives me a lot of concern. No, I hear you. Yeah. No, I never heard of him either. Yeah. Who is anything you say is true. I love you. His name is Ronald. Can I lick your feet? So Nick, not a white supremacist. It's like we love Trump. We love yay. That's right. Yeah. No, I'm with you. It's yay in Trump and anybody going for DeSantis or McCarthy. That's just not the energy. That's not the vibe. That's not MAGA. That's not Jesus energy.
Starting point is 02:48:52 That's not dragon energy. So and I like what you said about people need to just put it all on the line and finally tell the truth. That's the problem. Well, here's the bottom line. You're not a white supremacist. I've heard of senior show. You love everybody. You stand up for white people. Everybody should stand up for themselves and everybody else. That's a load of crap that you're a white supremacist. True. Yeah. And I did you help round up Jews like George Soros? No. Okay. Well, then I would. Yeah, I don't hear anything from the ADL or anybody else. But for the ADL, I want to say there's a lot of good Nazis that we're just fighting for their country and for them all like George Soros, they put them all to get put in a box. They're all in a box. Every Nazi is bad.
Starting point is 02:49:32 Well, could some of the Nazis have just been fighting for their country? Oh, we can't put them all in a box. See, again, Alex is trying to do that Soros reflex thing. Yeah. The deflection and yeah, he's not having any part of it. Nope. There are good Nazis. Hey, maybe Soros is good, I guess. It is. It's up in the air. Oh, God. It's up in the air, man. You never know. So Alex, you know, he's having this trouble with his deflections not being accepted. Right. Right. And so he tries to explain to you that Hitler was a bad dude. Interesting. Let's see how this goes. Doesn't work. Seriously. I've really studied a lot of history, plus that family that was there. And so, I mean, I don't think Hitler was a good guy. I get the Hugo Boss uniforms.
Starting point is 02:50:18 Big take. Big take. But I mean, just because you're in love with the design, you're a designer, can we just kind of say, like, you like the uniforms, but that's about it. No, we know there's a lot of things that I love about Hitler. A lot of things. Netton, what did you think about that, Netton? This is insane. Same person. How could you say something? It's okay. So let me ask you, you like the Azog battalions. They openly howl, Hitler. They're the leftovers of World War Two. They support Zelensky and attacking Russia. So you like the Azog battalion. I love everyone. You're not going to be able to trap him with one of these things. There's no way to trap him. This doesn't make sense by your logic. None of what he's saying
Starting point is 02:51:07 makes sense or means anything. He could be saying any words right now. It's talking to a fish net. Absolutely. Fish tank net. This is this. If I was writing a parody character and I have of a Nazi who says exactly what they believe, I wouldn't get this ridiculous. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's pretty, pretty silly. Yep. But that again, masks the, the dangerousness and toxicity of the actual ideas that are being put forth. So, yeah, he has some thoughts about Clockwork Orange. Did you know that was about Jews? Well, my point is you are involved with Hitler. You didn't do anything. So having the ADL say anybody that opposes communism and the New World Order is a Nazi. Well, you kind of get what you
Starting point is 02:51:57 give, you know, no one, no one cares about the ADL. They're played out. Jesus is Harvard. They ran Twitter till last week. They don't run anything. No one knows the aid. No one cares. They're played out. Look at people have had a problem. Look at Clockwork Orange. There's a part where Jewish guy makes the guy kiss the shoe and he says, kiss the, kiss the Jew. Like people have had issues with Jewish people forever. But what I'm saying is I love Jewish people. I love Jewish. Yes, we're talking about Stanley Kubrick. Put the war room background up. You think Clockwork Orange is about Jews? Absolutely. Look at it. I thought it was about a collapse. You know, Stanley Kubrick was a Jew. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Well, never mind. I think I changed my opinions.
Starting point is 02:52:42 I really loved 2001. Alex's response to this discussion is, Oh, put up that background from the Dr. Strangelove. That's going to do it. That's how we do it. Wow. Just abdicating any responsibility to have a coherent conversation. Well, I guess that there is a point of this where it's like, how could you have a coherent conversation? But that's not the position Alex has. He's not just like, well, let's get through it. No, he's engaged. He's just choosing not to do anything. Yeah, it is. But at the same time, he's still not actively helping it descend into complete chaos. You know, I think he is. Yeah, I think he's just kind of realized that he's lost. Yeah. But you know, by not ending it. Well, that's a good point. If you lose,
Starting point is 02:53:31 you can just end the game. You lost. Right. You lost the game. The game is over. It's not going to get better. No, no. Your tools don't work. Just Kanye's not going to get more coherent. Right. Yeah. Fucking like there's, there is a built in way to do this. Just cut the feed. Yeah. And then be like, we couldn't afford the bandwidth too many people were watching at the same time site crashed. Yep. Something like that. You can easily do that and get out of this. And if you say something different, who fucking cares? Nobody's going to believe his ass. Right. Especially not Alex's audience who he can convince of anything. Yeah. So Alex, I guess, out of the goodness of his heart decides that he's going to try and argue on
Starting point is 02:54:12 behalf of Jewish people. Sure. That's nice. Doesn't work. He's a good representative. I see incredible literature and art and music and just so many great, so much great stuff Jews do. Just like I see some of the great things black people do or any other group like, you know, Beethoven's German. I don't blame Beethoven for Hitler. And I believe I do speak about Wagner. Or Hugo boss. We have all this demonization. We don't care anymore. ADO obviously no one cares. Shut up. No one cares. Jesus is king. Shut up. It's done tomorrow. It's all the next day. You know, German cars do break down and cost a lot of money to fix. Germans make really good cars. Why are we Japanese make better ones?
Starting point is 02:54:58 Germans had a really cool leader at one time. Do you hear Alex there? Oh my God. He is so just he's treading water, but like he's not good at treading water. So he's kind of sinking a little bit. He's in quicksand. He's in quicksand. Everything he does only makes him go deeper in. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, he is mad at Ben Shapiro. Well, yeah, I mean, that's reasonable. Well, not for the same reason. No, no, it's mostly because he's Jewish. Yeah. I want to say with Ben Shapiro, he was so disrespectful to his employee Candace Owens for speaking out against me. And that just showed you another level of this kind of control that's out there. No, I agree. I like
Starting point is 02:55:43 and I wanted her. She's a really smart, beautiful lady. Really defended you. But I mean, are you saying Ben Shapiro has got her on a leash? I think it's pretty obvious. Oh boy. You know, as our Paul Watson, we didn't launch her. She deserved it, but in fours launch Candace Owens. Yes, but everyone is still controlled by the Jewish media. We need to serve first. Wow. Wait, so is he control? What is going on? Well, the Jewish media is. Yeah. How about it? I think they're controlling this Alex interview clearly. Well, see Alex wants to push back a little bit on this idea of the Jewish media. Right. Well, that would be wise. Sure. Yeah. He didn't do it all of the other times. No, that would have been wiser back then.
Starting point is 02:56:31 Sure. We slide a number of times when he brings up and complains about the Jewish media. Total wisdom decreases after every opportunity. So he tries and I think he does maybe the worst job possible. Thanks Alex. The Jewish media. Let me just bring up a real world example. I'm only met Matt Drudge once. He came here, hung out a few hours and went to dinner. He's Jewish. I never asked for anything. He never told me what to do. He only sent a few emails here and there to writers saying, Hey, yeah, this is about the worst thing. Something emailed to me and he was a Jewish guy that totally helped us go to the next level. We would have been successful without him, but he like supercharged it. Then suddenly he flips the other side, never talked to him again
Starting point is 02:57:11 and his websites like a Democrat health scape. But I'm just saying it's like I've known a lot of Jews in my life. Wait, I didn't have the Hollywood experience you had. Did you just tell the Jews in my life? Overall, we're very nice people is all I'm saying. I'm actually tired of hearing about the Jews. Like I love them. I don't even care that much. You know, but we spent the last three out two hours talking about him. You make a good point. It's fun. We want to hear about him. We want to talk about him because being canceled is fun because we're showing you guys the extent that you can go right because everything at this point that you do proves my point. Watch this. If I say death con three and then you cancel all of my deals, you proved exactly why I needed to go
Starting point is 02:57:56 def con. No, no, I agree with what you said. Let me stop you. It's a channel. I'm telling you. Here is the problem with what you are saying here. Alex can't argue with this. No, absolutely. Alex believes that negative consequences is our equivalent of virtue. That's the point. He says that whenever he's being attacked, it's because he's over the target. So if you say there's negative consequences that come from these anti-semitic things that I say that proves that I'm right about those things, Alex, that is a fundamental belief that Alex has about cause and effect. You got it. And so this is bad territory for Alex. Yeah. Yeah. Alex is not going to, you know, I mean, and also come off this shit about the, I'm tired of hearing about the Jewish
Starting point is 02:58:44 people. Well, you're just, you're just not going to win in a conversation with a bipolar person. It's just not going to happen. That's true. That's why I avoid you. Yeah. If I'm manic, you just get, I'll tell you, I'll tell you one, one trick to helping people who are experiencing a manic episode and it's not going to be in any, any books. You need to force them to eat as much food as they can possibly get and then get them as high as they can possibly get. Yeah. That's not going to be in a book and it is going to, it's going to work for a while. If you just keep doing it and medications not going to sedate you, don't try any other drugs, but the weed and tons of food. That's the way you got to do it. It'll get you through a day at least. I find,
Starting point is 02:59:31 I don't know if it's just sort of a, a function of your awareness or self work that you've done or whatever, but I find it with you just sort of calling things out is, is helpful. Yeah. But that's because you're aware of your own tendencies and maybe that's not the case with someone like EA necessarily. I mean, you have, you've never seen me go full manic episode. I've never seen you go deft con thread. I would not, I would not name it that. I'm a much happier, but no less a tornado of will that you will fall towards. Yeah. Yeah. I don't look forward to that ever happening. Well, um, medication. So this idea of the negative consequences being the same as virtue in Alex's world is being used by a, a, in a way that I think is really dangerous.
Starting point is 03:00:26 If I say, if I go on this, on this interview and I say, I love Hitler and then they go and 51 50 me and try to lobotomize me like we saw Harley pass and I do, or they put me in prison and just proves what I'm saying. And it's going to spark the high schools. It's going to spark. The grammar school is going to spark the colleges that say enough is enough. It doesn't matter how on the spectrum you think I am. I have the right to speak out loud. That is our first amendment. And it's a shame that you have to be considered to be on the spectrum to have enough courage to speak out loud. I do love my family, right? But I looked at every possible outcome. I've practiced Chinese water torture on myself. I would, I would like skip along Malibu in front
Starting point is 03:01:20 of my house and sing when the Cleans come to kill me. How is it going to be? What are they going to do to kill me? Wait a second. Netton, what do you have to say about this? Netton, don't want to say Netton. So the net aside, the perspective that he's putting out is if I go out and I say this pro Hitler anti-Semitic drivel, this nonsense alongside my anti-Semitic buddy Nick Fuentes and Milo and Forest Nazi. Oh, and Benjamin. If I put together this crew of Nazi losers and I say all this really horrible stuff and if I then I have consequences, it proves my argument was correct and this will spark a wave of anti-Semitism being proven and taken in by the youth. Yeah. And I don't know how accurate that is, but it wouldn't be a zero. Let's say
Starting point is 03:02:23 it won't be a hundred percent of the high schoolers become anti-Semitic because of this, but it's also not zero percent. What he's describing would be a phenomenon in some percentage and that's fucked up because there are just natural consequences to bathing like this that have nothing to do with proving that your anti-Semitic arguments were correct. No. But in Alex's conception of how the world works, he has no leg to stand on to be like, that's nonsense, man. Yeah. He kind of is forced to go along with it. Yeah. Well, I mean, unfortunately, he's argued himself into a place where his arguments are all pointing towards, yeah, it's okay. Do whatever you want. Well, to be fair, though,
Starting point is 03:03:05 Ye does not actually care that much about Hitler. Yeah, I didn't. So that's great news. But unfortunately, this clip is really bad. I don't really care that much about Hitler. I love him. Seems like he just do it as a way to like troll. No, he seems like a cool guy. You know, it's like he you know, it's like he had a really cool outfit and stuff. And he was a really good architect. And so you're in love with the with the with the with the with the the look of it. And he didn't kill six million Jews. That's just like factually incorrect. Now, let's get the Ronald Reagan clip. They show me your strength. I go ahead. Ronald Reagan said that, too. Well, I think Hitler did target and kill some people. So I think, you know, I think Obama
Starting point is 03:03:43 strong take Palestinians. No, I hear you here. Here's where I think the frustration is. Nick, you can comment on this. And Obama was not the first black president. He was another Jewish president. Oh, boy. So we've got some Holocaust denial. Sure. Hitler was a cool dude. Naturally. I don't care that much about Hitler, but also the Holocaust didn't happen. There is an issue there. I mean, I think this is the headline at very least like if you're going to cover this stuff in the way that it has been on Twitter with like Kanye says that he loves Hitler or whatever. Yeah. That's all good and well, but like he does deny the Holocaust. Yeah. Very seriously. He denies the Holocaust. Right. He does not believe the Holocaust
Starting point is 03:04:26 happened. Therefore, he can go fuck himself. It seems a bit more relevant than his. Yeah. Because admittedly, there are elements of his I love Hitler stuff that is fucking around. Yeah. I believe that he means the things he's saying. Yeah. But there is the the same dodge that so many of these people like Nick Fuentes do where it's like there's I'm joking. I'm joking around or like I love Hitler, but I love everybody. Right. Right. I'm going to focus and talk a lot about how much I love Hitler. Well, but I love everybody. Sure. And I think that that's a little bit more slippery in some ways than him just straight up. He didn't kill six million. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think we've all known somebody in our lives who is who's had that like I'm an
Starting point is 03:05:17 asshole. Oh, Hitler was actually great kind of kind of day or whatever it is. But if you deny the Holocaust, that is not a anything. That's you have read bullshit and you think it's true. Mm hmm. The end. So Owen comes in and he discusses how this is culture jamming. That's what they're doing. So denying the Holocaust. He might not have been listening for that part, or at least he's probably going to pretend he wasn't right. It's smart not to listen to that part. Well, like the white lives matter shirt. That's culture jamming because they took this thing that the left is doing and they're like, how do you like it when we hear a racist version of ha ha surprise? We proved why you made those shirts and man. It's really just all free speech
Starting point is 03:05:57 stuff. Yeah, he talks about wearing the white lives matter shirt. And really, this is what we're doing here today to his culture jamming. That's what we're doing. Oh, you can wear a black lives matter shirt, but you can't wear a white lives matter shirt. We're ramming their own culture down their throat and we're finding out that they don't like it. Same thing with this interview today. We believe in free speech, whether we agree with what each other are saying or not, we believe in their right to say it's an exercise of us showing we're here. We have our own platform and the internet number one story hands down in the world right now is this broadcast because people want free speech. Great point. You should be proud of yourself for getting a lot
Starting point is 03:06:32 of attention for your bullshit. But oh, and like two people at least involved in this don't believe in free speech. Ali wants a blasphemy laws and Nick has been very public about how little he cares about free speech. It is a tool by which he is able to push his agenda. You don't care about free speech. Maybe you think you do, but you're sitting in a room with extremists who are using free speech as a way to create a Christian fascist state. And that's not the same thing. No, no. Nope. So anyway, oh, and also it was like, Hey, man, this isn't about Nazis. And then yeah, he's like, Yeah, it is. Yeah, of course it is. Yeah, that is what we are talking about. Yeah, I am. I'm mad on Yays behalf. Now, if I'm yay, I'm like legitimately guys. I love Nazis. Well, okay.
Starting point is 03:07:24 But but I think he's having fun poking all the times that they say like they try and do cover for him. I think he enjoys that is true. Well, I would say I don't I don't think the story here with yay should be about anti semitism or Nazis or any of that. To me, the human interest story is fine. But but yay, think about what you can do with your platform right now because they want to make that the issue. Most people say that the whole world watching this right now. You understand you have primed your audience to know what they mean. Yeah. And they means what Kanye is saying. Right. You are saying that Kanye is right in your attempt to be like, Hey, Kanye, don't you think it's them? Yes, that's what he's saying. Owen just doesn't get it, man.
Starting point is 03:08:14 He has no conception of what he's a part of here. And a clip like that just illustrates it. He wants to cover his ass and reframe this interview in a way that non Nazis can see as acceptable. And yay wants no part of that. He doesn't want to be sanitized. He doesn't want plausible deniability. He's doing what he's doing. And people like Owen and Alex are just props to make that happen. Yep. Nick gets this. Ali even seems to know the score. But Alex and Owen, the people whose platform this is, are the marks. They want the message is pushing to be pushed. They also just don't want their entire facade to be punctured. So they have to do this performative sanitization and fake pushback because that's worked without every other time they've had to
Starting point is 03:08:52 deal with bigot grifters. Yeah, they can remind them subtly to protect the business, but not today. Right. Also, pro tip for the next right wing shithead who decides to interview yay in the future. Don't use the word they around him. I mean, really, what do you think is going to happen? Yeah, you're going to get called out fucking. Yeah, you're an idiot. You just agreed with him. He wins. You're done forever. It's his favorite game. Can you believe the low bar of intelligence here? Yeah, low bar. Yeah, because it makes Nick Fuentes look like a fucking genius. Yeah. And he is an idiot. I struggle. I struggle with exactly how to describe him. I don't think he's an idiot, but he's definitely he's far more savvy than any of these
Starting point is 03:09:44 ding dongs. Right. Anyway, speaking of ding dongs, Tim Poole, you know, he took a risk. Didn't work out. You shot his shot. You know, what are you going to do? Certainly probably got a lot of viewers. Definitely did look like an idiot. He is an idiot. And also here, congratulations on this, Tim. Why did you think you were able to do three hours here? You just did three hours, three minutes, by the way, uh, or no, no, no, you had done three hours, three minutes. Why were you able to stay here but not with Tim Poole? Because Tim Poole got the call from those boys 10 minutes before I got there and said, flag this and flag that. Also, Tim Poole is the MPC, you know, and you're a real real human being. So no one's ever heard of, uh, Tim Poole. You know,
Starting point is 03:10:29 you're the legend that is Alex Jones and you were fighting on the front line and now we're here with you. You got some other superheroes part of the adventure movie fighting for Christ and free speech. Congratulations, Tim. You did good. It's, it's fun. It's fun for them because I bet that hurt Tim Poole's feelings and I would love for you to say that nobody's ever heard of us. That'd be fucking fantastic. I would have a field day with that. You just thinking the idea that you would ever have thought of you is bizarre. It is hilarious to me. Yeah. Yeah. In the same way that like hearing, uh, uh, Norm say that they couldn't get someone to be the corporate representative because of us. Yeah. Yeah. That is bizarre and surreal. Ridiculous. The idea that yay would
Starting point is 03:11:11 ever have thought the name Jordan Holmes. Yeah. Yeah. Is unthinkable, but like Tim Poole, like this has got a sting. That's really got to hurt. Yep. Yep. That's got to hurt. That's got to hurt so bad. You're a NPC and no one's ever heard of you. Oh man. Yay. The guy who came up with net and yahoo or you who is pretty good. Uh, he devastated you. That's sad. Yeah. And, uh, not only came up with net and you who is a runner, he's kept going. He's done the voice and he hasn't broken once, which I think we should respect on that front. I don't. Well, fair enough. So, um, yay has a policy and that is that no black people should ever criticize him. What do you, what Dave early was like? All right. To you. What do you have to say about
Starting point is 03:12:03 Corey Smith's go team real quick? 10 years ago, he was like, there's a mafia. They came to me and said what I got to do. He ran off to Africa. Now he's kind of come back. Did he sell out? He didn't sell out. Yeah. He sold out a little bit because, um, because he denounced the king. You know what I'm saying? He denounced me. I'm the one fighting on the front line and no black person to say nothing bad about me in public unless they have puff it. Period. I put my life on the line and then afterwards they're going to talk about it. If anything happens to me, everyone's going to go, oh, he was the greatest. He was the greatest. Everybody shut up. Everybody shut up. Go home to your scared little bins and your scared little town home and your scared
Starting point is 03:12:44 little movie contracts and shut up. Don't talk to me about nothing. There's, uh, these moments of hostility that come out. George Bush doesn't care about black people and I am fucking here for it. Let's go. I did see a tweet that was really funny. It was like, yeah, George W. Bush should come out and say Kanye doesn't care about it. That's exactly what should happen. We've, we've done a complete upside down world to get Michael Mike Myers. Exactly redo it. I mean, God damn it. Whoever is working on SNL. We finally given you your first good bit. I apologize that I don't remember who's the tweet that was. I don't want to rip somebody off. Yeah, it was a really funny thought yours, but that is very funny. Um, so I don't even know how to respond to this other than please.
Starting point is 03:13:34 Alex has something to say that is just ridiculous. By the way, I want to say the future. We're very close with some folks who actually having a bank is funny. You bring that up a bank and internet processing for patriots. That's the future is not trying to fix Twitter or fix any of it, building our own system. Yeah. Would you like to bank with it? Full bank. Free speech systems is in bankruptcy. Just this morning as we're recording this, Alex declared bankruptcy personal personally. Ooh, that's good news. He's facing a billion dollar plus judgment in his Andy Hook cases and there are more to go. Um, I don't know if I would get involved. Also, shouldn't he be against like the FDIC? Like there's a lot of reasons I wouldn't bank. I'm not going to do
Starting point is 03:14:19 like a bank bank. I'm going to do more like an FTX thing, you know, where it's like I steal everybody's money on a lie. I'm going to do a bank, but we're only going to work with hard currency and I'll keep your deposits in a hole in my backyard. I'm going to steal your money. Can't imagine anything less trustworthy. I would sooner get involved with Alex's like when he had a dating site. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, it's safer. It's safer. At least you probably might meet a human. So Alex has had, um, a day, you know, sometimes you come to the office and you think, uh, yeah, I'm going to cruise through this work day. Sure. I got a high energy guest coming in the whole day is I don't have to do any kind of prep. I'm not doing any,
Starting point is 03:15:04 any real work. I'm just sitting here talking to talking to yay and Nick. Yeah. It's like my job, except for not yet. It's going to be almost like a half day at school. Right. And unfortunately, you show up and then it's like, Oh, no, it's all homework. Yeah. The substitute teacher isn't going to play us a movie. We are getting quizzes. We're getting bullshit. And the substitute teacher is going to say fucked up things that I'm going to have to deal with call the principal or something. I'm nine. Yeah. You are telling me about. So anyway, Alex has had quite a day and he decides he wants to end the show by making one thing explicitly clear to a yay. And that is that Hitler is not cool. He's not a good dude. It shouldn't be hard. And I mean, how would you,
Starting point is 03:15:49 I mean, you would respond to that probably with like, you bet. You got it, sir. Nailed it. Not only that, I think it's probably worse than you think. You know what? In fact, you and I might disagree on how worse he is. Historical villain. Bad dude. Bad dude. Yeah. He has another approach. He decides, you know how I denied the Holocaust earlier? Sure. I'm gonna do it again. I'm gonna do it again. It was fun. I wouldn't do that. Let me just say this in closing. I've done a lot of study. I think Hitler was a really bad guy and I repudiate what Hitler did. I understand that the British intelligence set him up and use them. I like Hitler. I don't like Hitler. And I know you're trying to be shocking to that. I'm not trying to be shocking. I like Hitler. I do not.
Starting point is 03:16:27 The Holocaust is not what happened. Let's look at the facts of that. And Hitler has a lot of redeeming qualities. So tell us, you think you think Hitler was the good guy in World War Two? I think God says, Man should not kill. We should not have worse period. Okay. So your trap didn't work there either. Nope. You have allowed this gentleman to say horrific things and now deny the Holocaust twice. Yep. Three more times and he'll be as good as Peter. So Alex is like, Hey, man, I got to tell you that the Holocaust happened. I mean, listen, I'll tell you this. I have not done that much research into World War Two. I'm not yet 40. I mean, all old white men past the age of 40 eventually have a World War Two phase. I got a couple years. Yeah, you're almost
Starting point is 03:17:18 there. Yeah. But yeah, I didn't need a lot of research. I can tell you confidently with 100% certainty. Hitler's a bad dude. Hitler is a bad dude. But Alex, I do think that this is one thing I will say to it's not to his credit, but it is like this is pushing back a little bit. Yeah. I think he does realize that like, I maybe didn't catch it the first time, but now that he's denied the Holocaust again, I do have to make very clear that I believe the Holocaust happened. Even Alex Jones has to be like the Holocaust did happen. Yeah, there is a line apparently and here is where it is. It's the Holocaust. I feel like that's good. I feel like I love everyone accordingly from all the way from the Balenciagas to the Hitlers. Let me tell you a story. Hold on, sir.
Starting point is 03:18:06 Okay. To Ari Emanuel, to Jamie Dimon, to the people who... What's that? Amber Alert. Here's what I'm saying. My grandfather would never tell World War II stories. And after he died, we read over stuff and he never even told my dad all the stuff he did and everything. But it was all in their letters and commendations. He told me, he said, kid, I was like eight years old. I always thought Amber Alerts is when my ex-girlfriend Amber was doing something in the streets. I got an Amber Alert. Before he died, I was like five years old. The point was, and I was like, tell me World War II story. Tell me World War II story. He said, okay, well, we came out of Africa. We came into Italy. He was there three years. He said,
Starting point is 03:18:38 by the time they got to Germany, they went into this death camp and there were piles of dead bodies a hundred feet tall with black birds eating people's eyeballs out. All I'm telling you is, is that just because you hate the globalists, what they're doing, and I get it, Claus Schwab's grandfather was a Nazi. There's Nazis above the ADL. Yeah, but Nazis are like kind of cool. This is just, it's not going to work. Whatever you're doing is not going to work. But I do appreciate Alex at least being like the Holocaust did happen. The Holocaust happened. Yeah. The Holocaust happened and it was bad. And I'm going to throw this out there. I don't care what God you believe in, it is okay to hate the Nazis. In fact, I would say it's maybe an immoral imperative to hate the
Starting point is 03:19:20 Nazis. And whatever group you are mad at or hate does not justify you denying the Holocaust. Nope. And at least Alex is there. But I also think that maybe on some level, that is a strategic calculation on his part because he's like, I will be straight up fucked. Yeah. Yeah. There's, there's one thing that I have to do. And that is remember that the US was the good guy in World War Two. And that's all I got to do. And quite frankly, my brand won't survive if I put up with Holocaust denial explicitly. There's too many old conservatives who are still like, listen, World War Two is legitimately the only thing we can hang our hat on honestly. And old those types who are in Alex's audience that are the people who buy his dumb pill.
Starting point is 03:20:07 Yeah. No, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. That's what I'm describing. So Alex is, he's trying to be like, like, yeah, you're being edgy and all this. Sure. Sure. Yeah. And Ali comes in and shuts Alex the fuck down. God damn. Listen at the end of this clip. Alex is just completely dejected and like, fuck, I got nothing. You have any comments on Hitler? I agree. Who did he say he hated? He didn't say he hated anybody. Why isn't anybody listening to him? He said, I love this. We are trying to take away my children. I love this person. But I don't think we listen, I'm just getting it totally clear. But I think Stalin, same thing. You did the same thing on Stalin is horrible.
Starting point is 03:20:49 Hitler is horrible. Mao is horrible. No, no, I love all of those. You love Mao Zedong. Absolutely. Mao brought clear like Christ like you love everybody. Yeah, no matter. You love Jim Jones. You love Jeffrey Dahmer. Absolutely. Let's clarify. But he didn't need clarification because he said, I'm starting with the Bible. He's ending with the Bible. And that's what, but they did it to you, Alex, because you had a guy who came here. You're like, I'll be Satan. I'll be the evil guy. I did Sandy Hook. Remember, you did the same thing that he's doing right now. All right. Absolutely. Yeah, we appreciate. Absolutely. Well, I mean, that's not really what he's doing. But if Alex believes that's
Starting point is 03:21:31 what he's doing, or if that is the kind of last refuge that Alex has to try and contextualize this interview in a way that like is palatable to people, Ali has just been just been like boom. Door slam. And let's not forget. Nick Fuentes originally, he said, I agree with Ye and then his head went back underneath the table in Ye's lap. So I don't know how Fuentes feels. All right. Enough of that. I'm sorry. I'm sick of his shit. I understand. But enough of the nonstop sucking off stuff. If he wants to suck Kanye off. Enough of that. All right. He's the one sucking them off. So yay. Once again, complains about the Jewish media, because Alex was trying to sort of coast to a closing statement. But apparently what you really want to leave things on is that
Starting point is 03:22:26 gay wants to fuck Ari Emanuel's wife. Yeah, that sounds right. You love everybody. You don't judge them. It's God to judge. I agree with that statement. And we got to change ourselves and stop pointing our fingers at somebody else. Exactly. All right. And it's to say, hey, I'm gonna show you how much Jewish media can't tell me what to say. You like that, Ari? And I'm telling you, we could get a nice private room. Me and your wife can go in and work on the clothing line. I'm really good at it. And it'll be super Christian. Hey, Ron, it's okay. You got a thing for his wife? Absolutely not. I would not look at his wife for a second. But I do sound like clothing line could use some creative improvement. All right, info wars.com. Tomorrow's news today,
Starting point is 03:23:10 Nick. Tomorrow's news today is apparently Ari Emanuel's wife's clothing line isn't up to stuff. Not that good. Yeah, not that good. I do. I do appreciate that Alex is at least sort of observant enough to notice that he keeps talking. Getting kind of weird there, man. Hey, guys, I have a fraught relationship with women myself, but goddamn, I'm shocked. Alex didn't pick up on the, Hey, you got a problem with porn, dude? That was just as transparent. Yep. So as yay leaves, Alex does not seem incredibly happy. All right. Hey, yay. I appreciate you coming. I appreciate the first remember. And look, he's not taking the mask off. Yay was not here. Incredible impersonator.
Starting point is 03:23:58 Wilbert Johnson was the impersonator. Wilbert net net and was here though. Actually Benjamin yet yahoo played Kanye West today. Hey, man, what you want? Hey, yeah, guys, here's the justice room. We broke finally broke right back and talk to Oh, and the rest of crew. Oh, and get in here. Do the last hour with netting yahoo. All right, this has been incredible. Folks, free shipping. Play the Justin Turdo thing. Oh, and get in here. This has been incredible. This has been incredible. So when yay leaves, there's still the fourth hour, a bit of the fourth hour, and then the war room. And Alex says they're going to take three hours of calls. There's going to get everybody's opinion on this, this interview. They're going to get down
Starting point is 03:24:47 to it. Talk about free speech. And then Alex spends the rest of his show just sort of navel gazing about how many viewers they have. Sure. Yeah. And begging them to tell their friends about the show is like, Oh, we have 25 million people watching. Yeah. If all of you told your friends think about the we could make a real change. That's all of it. He doesn't take any calls on his show. And then so he's there hosting the war room with Oh, and at the beginning. And it's just a desperate attempt to rewrite what happened. Yeah. And it makes sense that he would spend the rest of his show like navel gazing because that's the only way he has to get back some of his pride. You know, it's been so ripped away from him that now he's like
Starting point is 03:25:32 balming himself by saying it was all worth it because of all these views. Well, and and not only that, he's I'm going to play just a couple clips of this. Like now that yay is gone, he is able to rewrite what he said without yay saying no, I like Nazis. He didn't. He was being tongue in cheek. I'm not even apologizing for him. I get the shock value of what he was saying. He goes, I love the Zionist. I love Stalin. I love Mao Zedong. I love them all. So it's all over the place, ladies and gentlemen, and it's gone super mega viral. Number one story in the world right now is this info wars.com. Tomorrow's new today. Now here's the problem with having 7677 million people so far tuning today. Throw me three or four million. This will cost me hundreds of
Starting point is 03:26:26 thousands of dollars today. We have great bandwidth deals. But when you've got not as people listen to the audio, but you've got 3040 50 million people in just the last couple hours tuned in. That costs some serious denero. So that gets to an ad pivot. Yeah. And here is another attempt to just recontextualize what yay was saying. Yeah. But you know what you did do today, Alex, was you let yay speak. You had the most successful podcast live stream with yay as the guest. He didn't like any of the other interviews he did. He walked out of some of them, obviously, like you mentioned with Tim Pool. And so I think again today, you are the champion of free speech. You put your neck out there with knowing the risks, knowing what was probably going to be said,
Starting point is 03:27:15 and you did it. And you did it. And it got the most views on a live stream ever on the internet in the most banned studio in the world. So that's that's that's the real story that I take away is that free speech, it might be under serious attack, but it's not dead. The people still want it. They still want to hear controversy. But the whole point is if they're promoting pedophilia, if a black dude wants to love Hitler, let him. I mean, he obviously wasn't doing that. He was doing it as a shock value, but they're going to lie now. He even said that was shock value. They're going to deny the Holocaust, man. They're the ones doing that. He denied the Holocaust multiple times. And he specifically said this is not for shock value. Yeah. I am not trolling any of this
Starting point is 03:27:52 stuff. Alex, when he tried to use these excuses for what yay was saying, while yay was there, he said no. And he said, not only that, I love Hitler. Nazis are great. Yeah. Holocaust didn't happen. Yeah. Now that he's gone, Alex can do this. It's the same thing with Tim Pool. Tim would not stand up and assert his position or say, Hey, I don't think this is cool until the minute yay left. This is all just really pathetic attempts at saving face, reclaiming something, rewriting the narrative in a way that works for you because this person didn't play along with the way that you were going. And as to what Owen's saying, like, Oh, congratulations. You did three hours with an anti-Semite when Tim Pool only lasted 20 minutes. That is not the compliment you think it is.
Starting point is 03:28:41 I was, I listened to that and I was like, he does not understand that essentially what he just said is it is worth it to us to broadcast Holocaust denial and hate because we got money. Yeah. Or hypothetical money. Yeah, exactly. We don't even know if we got it yet. Some of those people might have just been watching for free and it might have bankrupted me. It might have cost us more to have this interview than we make from this interview. Yeah. And so I was listening to the war room and I noticed this on the Info Wars feed. It wasn't on the feed. This was on the video that they posted of the war room. I thought this was weird. I mean, don't we all know that? Like, we listen to Jimi Hendrix not because he's black. He's an incredible musician. Like,
Starting point is 03:29:27 you can hear that music and say that's breaking from Hollywood, breaking from the mainstream. Definitely something cut out there. And so I was thinking like, well, it's got to be something really fucking offensive if all the other things are still there. Yeah, I mean, yeah, if that is out of, if anything is cut out of this interview, fuck me. Well, here's the thing. I found the actual raw video of this. And it's really just them talking about China and how they want China to be free. It's not offensive at all. It's about six minutes of extraneous conversation about liberty for the Chinese people. But then there's this and I think it might have been why it was cut out. And I've got a big crisis here. I want you to host for five minutes. We
Starting point is 03:30:15 we, uh, we've maxed out money and I've got to go somewhere, find money to pay for the man with. And this is not a joke, folks. When you got 30, 40, 50 million extra people watching videos, the bills are in the hundreds of thousands of dollars a day. And so, uh, we've been told, I got to go deal with the bill just to even stay on it right now. That's how close this all is. Please go to infowarstore.com, get vitamin, real fusion, get bodies open to make formula. So Alex leaves and he doesn't come back. Wow. He was going to take calls for hours and it's just Owen. Uh, it's boring as hell. I don't care. And then he interviews Jesse Lee Peterson. And, um, I think that maybe they cut that out because it looks really weak and, uh, you don't
Starting point is 03:31:00 want that in the, uh, the final product and the next morning, Alex declared bankruptcy. Yeah. So maybe that is more real than it usually appears with the sales pitches that like, no, they straight up got hit like with serious expenses because of the, uh, increased, uh, bandwidth cost. And if there is some silver lining to this, possibly it may be that indirectly or directly platforming, yay's bullshit, uh, anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial could have bankrupt Alex. It could have, could have led to his, uh, bankruptcy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it is funny, uh, that he got bankrupted because yay did something that he previously decried, which was breaking the internet peers that he's, uh, hoisted upon his own protect.
Starting point is 03:31:55 There is a little bit of irony, irony abounds in this whole fucking thing. So, um, I don't particularly care about Owens, uh, rambling, uh, nonsense defenses of what has happened on the show. So we're not going to, uh, spend more time diving into that. Um, but the words almost fail, you know, when, when trying to look at what, what has happened here, there's a lot of missing the forest for the trees in terms of, uh, just boiling this down to yay loves Hitler or yay likes Nazis. Yeah. Because I mean, that certainly is a piece of it, but there's so much more going on that all funnels into that. Yeah. You know, it's not like there are a ton of different things that are happening. There are a bunch of different things that are all rooted back to
Starting point is 03:32:46 this anti-Semitic ideology and the clear influences of the people like Milo, Nick, Owen Benjamin, Ally that are around him. Yeah. You know, these, these, uh, the obsession with pornography and the evils of it, um, very clearly is just a side road of his anti-Semitic ideas. Yeah. This is, um, it's troubling. I mean, I was in the shower earlier and I was thinking, uh, weeping. Why did I choose to do this? Why is Jordan my friend? All of these things. Yeah. No, I, I, I mean, look, I'm a bit sleep deprived. So some of those thoughts may come later, but I was, I had a feeling of like, this is the worst episode of in fours I've ever heard. Yeah. And I don't know if I can confidently say that because he said, there've been a lot of
Starting point is 03:33:40 really bad episodes. The Anders Brevik one sticks out to me and I don't know how much of that was just because it was, you know, traumatic for me to cover that episode and, you know, the research into it was really horrible. Yeah. But in terms of like a presentation of something, you know, he's had Richard Spencer on, he's had David Duke on and those weren't really as bad as this in terms of the incompetence of the pushback, um, intentional or otherwise in its ineffectualness. Yeah. The, the danger of it in terms of like what it could be are, I feel like it's worse than David Duke in as much as like David Duke's not cool. Kids don't like David Duke. Sure. You know, there is a, a unwiseness of debating David Duke when you're definitely not ready to, and you don't really
Starting point is 03:34:33 disagree with him on all that much. That seems dumb and maybe not the best idea. Yeah. He is cool still to a lot of people. Um, and also he has something that David Duke doesn't have, which is people like Nick Fuentes and Owen Benjamin and Milo. Um, and I think that presents a unique set of circumstances that are worse. I don't know. I mean, again, I need to, uh, sleep on it and reflect, but this is up there as one of the worst episodes of his show that I've, I've heard. Uh, I mean, it's very rare that you actually get someone denying the Holocaust on info. Yeah. Yeah. That is something that is, it puts it in a category of its own. Right. Right. Right. I, I mean, my, my thoughts as I come to the end of this, uh, horrific whatever this was,
Starting point is 03:35:29 is that you slept last night. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I'm, I'm riding. Uh, yeah. I mean, the Anders Brevik is far more disgusting to me than this because this is a fun house mirror version of reality and it's, it's bononkers. I mean, the Anders Brevik shit is so fucked and the way that he dealt with that killed a lot of people. Well, I mean, yes, but we're, we're also talking about the fucking Holocaust. You know, he's, yeah, he's denying the Holocaust, you know, like that. But he didn't do the Holocaust. That is true. Whereas Anders Brevik did murder a bunch of people. That is true. And that adds, I mean, not to say that these issues and, you know, anti-Semitic violence doesn't still continue to this day, right? But Kanye personally or yay personally,
Starting point is 03:36:20 right? It doesn't have that. But I guess Anders Brevik wasn't on the show. Yeah. So maybe that is, maybe, maybe your point is relevant. I'm not sure. I mean, to me, here's the number, here's the my problem. Uh, because we can argue what the worst is or the definition of the worst, you know, that may not ever come to a, that can happen all day. My problem with this is that the one way that almost everybody is going to engage with this is the most damaging way to engage with it. To me, the only possible way you can engage with this exactly is if you watch the entire video or if you listen to our show. Because this is a totality and any, any, any attempt to shrink it down is damaging. Well, yeah, it's more harmful
Starting point is 03:37:13 than his interview. I mean it. Clips do a disservice. And taking things outside, like you're saying, of the totality of what this is, this conversation, the way, the way it goes. I agree, I agree with you. And I think also to double down on that, getting lost in the weeds of the, the surreality and clear sort of clownishness of it with the Netanyahu stuff and, and, and, and all that, getting lost in that and thinking, oh, this is such an absurdity, who would ever take this seriously is working towards the interest of what the propaganda is meant, or how it's meant to be dismissed by people who would take it seriously otherwise. Yeah. And every one of the people in this, in this interview, you're not going to get enough
Starting point is 03:38:05 context about them through whatever it is that you're reading, whatever tweets you're getting, any of it, even if you read everything that all the newspapers and blogs and all that shit, and all the tweets, you do not know enough about Nick Fuentes. You do not know enough about Ali Alexander. You do not have the context necessary to understand what is going on here. And you definitely don't have any idea how to engage with what yay is doing right now. And everyone will be done a disservice because of all of the people that are not named Kanye or Alex. Yeah, probably. That sucks. Really fucking sucks. A lot of things, a lot of things were, were taken on this episode.
Starting point is 03:38:50 My, my sleep was deprived from me. Yeah. The audience was deprived another deposition episode that was going to be coming out. That was going to be so good. Yeah. Hey guys, everybody out there. Hey, I bet you wish you didn't have so much fucking yay in your life now, don't you? I could use a little less. Yeah, me too. And hopefully we'll have some less in the future. Never again, hopefully. Until, until we come back. I have another episode, Jordan. We have a website. We do have a website. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We are also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight. Yeah, we'll be back. Until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I don't want to do a dumb bit. We're tired. Yep. And now here comes
Starting point is 03:39:26 the sex robots, Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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