Knowledge Fight - #78: October 12-15, 2015

Episode Date: August 30, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the groundbreaking (?) 16th installment in his investigation into what happened in 2015 to get Alex Jones to join up with Team Trump. Topics covered include: What HBO cast did Alex convert to loving guns? Did Alex enjoy The Martian? How much does Alex love Russia? (quite a bit) Does Alex finally support Trump?

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages while talking about Alex Jones. Is there a twist to this conversation that you and I have regularly, perhaps multiple times per week? It's a mix-a-mup that we do.

It's a mix-a-mup. This could, the show could just be two fucking dudes who sit around and talk about a thing that they both are experts in. Like Charlie Rose or something like that. Sure. Sure. You get two really smart folks who are, you know, they know a lot about the topic. Both of whom are emotionally even keeled. Absolutely. But that's not us. That's not us.

We are a little bit nuts and I know a lot about Alex Jones and you do not. I don't know anything about Alex Jones. So we sit down and talk about him and I explain what's going on in his world. Right. And then via that, we get into a lot of the issues plaguing all of us and how we're all going to die immediately. We're all fucked. We're all fucked immediately. Yep. But you know, it's not fucked ladies and gentlemen.

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And we'll be covering the span of time between October 12th and October 15th. All right. And today is earth shattering today. We make some real progress or do we only one way to find out? Oh my God. What is happening? Listen to the rest of this podcast.

What is going on? What is this? You know what? This is I went to therapy today. Oh, OK. I walked like five miles home from therapy. So you're catching me on like weird mood. Right.

Weird mood. Almost like you've meditated. Almost like I'm in a decent headspace and I might get a little silly. Yeah. But I don't like it. Yeah. There's nothing silly.

Stop looking at that Fitbit. You son of a bitch. It says feed me. All right. I looked at it says feed me steps. Oh, no. I'm not going to do that. All right.

Get rid of that. Get rid of it now. I'm going to drop it in my vodka. It's telling you. This is the technocracy that we've all been fighting against all these years. Alex is right. All along.

Yeah. It turns out I am a slave to my wristband. The fucking global Fitbits. Right. It's all a globalist plot. We all know that. But before we get to today's show, I'd like to start off with two out of context

drops from Alex Jones. That's right. It's a special episode. We got two. You and diplomats lead slaves around in New York on change. All right. Oh, okay. Big news item.

I'm going to go with. Where? Where New York. Can you find them? Well, I mean, New York's a big city. That's true. That where else would you hide but in plain sight? Absolutely.

With your slaves on with your slaves on chains. Yes. That's a normal thing for diplomats to do. Certainly. Exactly. This is this is diehard too, isn't it? So the next out of context drop, I'm actually going to set up a tiny bit because the whole

purpose of us going back to 2015 in the investigation is to try and figure out when Alex Jones decided he loved Donald Trump. Right. That is the whole point. But along the way, it's interesting to figure out what he thinks about other candidates. And so actually on the span of time we're going over today,

Alex Jones discusses what he thinks about Bernie Sanders. Oh, no. And here's what he thinks about him. About his saying that it is immoral and wrong that the top one-tenth of 1% in this country own almost 90% almost own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90% that it is wrong today in the wrong economy that 57% of all the income is going to the top 1% that when you look around the world,

you see every other major country providing healthcare to all people as a right except the United States. You see every other major country saying to moms that when you have a baby, we're not going to separate you from your newborn baby because we are going to have. But we are going to have medical and family paid to believe like every other country on earth. Those are some of the principles that I believe in.

People from the UK come here to get healthcare and our healthcare screwed up. People from Canada come here. He just sits there goes everywhere else is a totally wonderful place. Welcome to McDonald's. May I help you? Is that my type?

I'm Bernie Sanders. I have a 70 IQ. I'm for the beatings. Shit. That was not an out of context drop. Sorry. Nope. That was an entirely in context drop.

So it turns out whenever you're editing things down, I can I have the ability to either export an entire clip that I record or export a part that I have highlighted. And sometimes I fuck that up. So I highlighted the portion I wanted and accidentally exported the entire thing. This is the problem with you in a good headspace. What?

Dan, you're not focused. Okay. You're too happy. You're going around thinking about all the good things that could happen instead of here locked in your room fastidiously getting these clips cut. I apologize. I'm going to throw this bit away.

But you know, it's interesting about that clip. The thing that amazed me listening to it is as petty and stupid as Alex was being, he let Bernie talk a lot. Yeah. He let Bernie talk almost the whole time. But I think that he didn't have anything. He didn't have anything to come back with. Except with baby.

Yeah, exactly. But that was it. I think the reason for that is Alex is aware that most of his audience isn't really aware of Bernie Sanders. And so if he just started doing the I'm going to be because obviously he's trying to do a pardon my expression a retard voice. Yes.

And I don't think that his audience would really register what he's getting at if he didn't play a clip for context. Yeah, but I like I always think that there's a reason for why he either talks over or doesn't talk over a clip. When he talks over it, he's either trying to show dominance or he just doesn't give a shit and wants to score points. Right.

When he does let people talk, he's either reverent to them or he knows that he needs context in order to score points later. We like with that shitty impression. I don't know, man. It kind of it. Well, it is October in 2015. So that means Bernie had not yet become the most popular

politician in the United States. Yes. As he is now. He was at this point. He's just a socialist. Right. And Alex hates socialists. But listen to God.

God damn it, Bernie. Yeah. God damn it. Why aren't you the president? But if you are an Alex Jones listener and you hear that, that's one of those things that it surprises me because that is a hugely popular position across the spectrum. Right.

But so if you're an Alex Jones listener, you're not hearing any of these conspiracy theories. You're just hearing Bernie make a goddamn lot of sense. Right. But if you're Alex Jones listener, if you're an Alex Jones listener and you hear Bernie Sanders being played on Alex's show, you know that the context is that this guy is lying.

Of course he's going to say that you're going to get all these things, but that's just a trap to get to tyranny because Alex has already laid that sort of narrative bed in place. So even if Bernie Sanders comes on and says all the things that obviously you would want to hear, it doesn't matter. It's not going to convince you. But isn't Bernie saying in a real fashion what Alex says in a false one?

Isn't Bernie, he let Bernie talk the real problem, which is the top one tenth of one percent own more wealth than the bottom 90 percent. But he refuses to call them globalists and Bernie Sanders won't audit the Fed. Alex has complained about that. Yeah. And Bernie is a Jew, which is a big issue.

I mean, he would pretend that doesn't matter. Right. But it does. Probably in their world. Absolutely. So let's jump into this, Jordan. We're going to start on October 12th. I'm telling you, there's a lot of interesting stuff we got to

discuss coming up. It's fairly fun, fairly, really underselling everything today. Yeah, I know. So here, let's start this clip. You're off. You're off, man. Do you want me to come back after somebody's broken your heart or something so we can really get you into the right head space to

deal with all this shit? Hold on. Let me read my emails from 2015. Oh, really bummed me out. So here we go. Here's the first clip. Alex starts off his show on the 12th, explaining that you cannot compromise with a globalist.

And yes, national sovereignty does not exist. The family does not exist. Mother and father does not exist. Private property does not exist. The Amish do not exist. You will be assimilated. We are the morgue. Submit or be destroyed.

It's so over the top that only a complete flipping against it has any chance. And I was driving into work this morning. I was thinking, how do we get people to break their conditioning? And it's just that people have to realize that you can't be reasonable. You can't compromise with the globalist or the so-called political left. They are not the left. They are hard core, brazen, scientifically focused groups conquering us. When you get to even mid-level managers of the left, they will laugh.

If you're sitting around a cocktail, you know, table with them and say, of course we're taking over. Of course we're conditioning people. Tell us something we don't know. I hate minorities. I mean, it's just, oh, you ought to join us, you fool. That's who they are. Of course we're aborting the blacks.

Well, yeah. And then the left, the general public sits there like mindless victims, like children climbing into a beat up white creeper van, because they heard ice cream truck music coming out of it. But there's a demonic wildcat inside that vehicle to tear you apart. Why would they are enemies? They are consciously evil. And if you don't get that through your head and realize there's psychotic predators

and sociopaths and mercenaries under them, you have no hope. So you got a lot of questions, but I wanted to say that like I've started to notice that Alex Jones starts off a disproportionate amount of his shows by trying to really demonize his opponents, the left, and it just serves to radicalize his base. I'm sorry, go ahead. Okay, you're a kid. You hear the ice cream truck music? Isn't that a weird dark carnival?

Maybe, yeah, there weren't any ice cream trucks in my hometown growing up. There was just evil carnivals. Yeah, there were a lot of clowns. Yeah, Stephen King's it, the whole thing. No, all right, beat up creeper van. Right. You go inside hoping for ice cream. On one hand, you might find a pedophile.

Sure. Now, on the other, however, you might find a demonic wild cat. What about just a wild cat? Which one is preferable? What about just like a straight up wild cat? It doesn't have to worship Satan. No, you want a wild cat. Look, I know wild cats are dangerous, but that's out of fear.

A demonic wild cat, that's out of anger and hate. That could be. That's a stronger cat. Yeah, you might be right. And a demonic wild cat, I'm assuming, is at least 15% bigger. Yeah, that is true. It's like steroids. It's like anabolic steroids.

When you worship the devil, you just get beefy. You get a little bit bigger, yeah. Everyone knows that. It's in the white papers. WikiLeaks. So the other thing you seem to glom onto is Alex's mention of the Amish. Why was that there? The Amish don't exist.

Okay. There's a little minor narrative that he sells from time to time. One of his waypoints back in 2015 that I had really deemed to discuss. But there was a Amish cheese seller that got raided by the government. And it was because he wasn't using appropriate pasteurization techniques and stuff like that. And he was selling his cheese across state lines. So he was committing crimes.

There were commerce issues and then also health issues. Yeah. And Alex was like, they raided him. They took a year. It's nonsense. But that's why he brought up the Amish. He's dumb. That's a weird way to go.

Also, would he be mad because it's- Maybe for or against the Amish. He's for them in this case. He's mad because it's the federal government. Because it's like interstate trade and stuff like that. Which is why we have a federal government. For interstate stuff. He doesn't appreciate that.

He thinks it's oppression. Who cares? Look, we got to move on because the next clip is so much fun. If there's one thing that I hate, it's oppressing the Amish. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I love all my- Oppressing the Amish with these silly federal laws.

Breaking them. I grew up Mennonite, man. I love my Anabaptist peeps. Shout out. Shout out, Mennos. Anyway, this next clip. No. Just no.

This next clip. Alex Jones brings up some protests that have been happening in Austin. And I got some interesting insight into this on the other side of it. It was in the Houston Chronicle. And I saw the headline and I said, is this a joke? And I went to the URL. It wasn't the onion. Spoofing the Houston Chronicle.

And then it was in the Austin America statesman that the left is going to- It was the headline in the statesman, I couldn't believe. Students to wear giant dildos. Ian. Cox for glocks. This is in the paper. But everybody read. Front page of the paper.

Statesman. Also in the Houston Chronicles where I first saw it. And he said, well, it's just silly. It's stupid. That's how they're going to protest people with guns on campus. But no, it's pure genius. It's just mindless stupidness to just confuse everything. It's CIA warfare.

It's CIA warfare. So I don't know if you remember this, but I mentioned on a recent episode- Dildos. There's a dildo protest. CIA warfare. I remember the dildo protest. My dad was a speaker. I did not realize that the CIA was behind it.

It wasn't. Oh, are you sure? Totally sure. Well, if your dad was a speaker there, then he has a vested interest in making sure no one knows that it was the CIA that was behind it. So you're not going to get an honest answer out of your dad. Shit, you're right. Yeah, yeah. Oh, well.

That brings us to our new segment, Never Trust Dan's Dad. He is a CIA theologist. In the same way that Alex Jones' dad has a CIA dentist. Indeed. Indeed. There we go. But if you want to take his perspective with a grain of salt, even though he's a CIA religious studies professor, I called him earlier and we chatted a little bit about this because he was a speaker at the protest.

Of course. And Alex Jones is wildly misrepresenting what happened. Wait, hold. So the reality is that it was a student-led protest, this dildo protest. And as my dad characterized it, faculty could never do that. They would get fired. Yeah. If you had a faculty-involved dildo protest on campus, they were like,

we got to sit you down with a dean. Do you have tenure? No. You're gone. Goodbye. So it started out as kind of a social media joke. People were against open carry on campus, especially guns being carried in buildings, like campus buildings and stuff like that.

So these students, they realized that it's a decency crime to carry a dildo openly on campus. But not a gun. Yes. You would get arrested and fined. America's great, right, Dan? Don't you love America? We always make sense.

Yeah. So they started this camp, like not really even a serious campaign at the onset, but just pointing out that absurdity on a Facebook group or whatever. And then it spawned a real protest out of it. It launched and they're like, oh, we're actually going to do it. On the same day, gun-free UT, which is the sort of, I would characterize it. My dad didn't totally agree with this. But how I would sort of, just the broad strokes version is that's the adult version.

Right. They happen to have a speakers-based protest against the open carry stuff at the same time. So there was the student-led dildo protest that dovetailed into the adult gun-free UT protest. And yeah, that's, I mean, it's not the CIA. It's just smart students realizing, hey, it's illegal for us to have dildos out in public, but guns are cool. Yeah. And CIA.

It is fun. That's a fun way to fight against what is clearly absurd. Like you can't fight on that direct level of their dumb anger and stupidity. You have to point out, look at you silly children. That's what you gun people are. You might as well be holding dildos because you're idiots. So we're going to mock you and then you'll get angry and you'll go underground and you'll go on stormfront.com and you'll come out as a Nazi.

Thanks. It turns out, yeah, that nothing you do is really effective. No. It turns out, it turns out all is meaningless. Yeah, it's all a disaster. But I just love that because on the last time he talked about a gun-free UT protest, he said, Michael Bloomberg flew everyone in. At this time, he's saying it's CIA tactics and stuff like that.

And so he's just making this stuff up. It's crazy. Like I'm thrilled that I have a family member who was directly involved in the protest. Yeah, that's very cool. It gives me an ability to look into the actual truth of it. But I just, I don't think that people listening to Alex Jones who like him realize how often he is just making stuff up. Like Bloomberg didn't fly anybody in.

Bloomberg wasn't involved in that protest at all. No. This isn't CIA tactics. It's clowning on fools. It's basically. And the CIA is not well known for clowning on fools. Wow. Extreme clowning.

That's what we call overthrowing governments. Yeah, I was going to say. I mean, yeah, but they didn't do it. Like they didn't turn many regimes into nothing by air-dropping DVDs of Operation Dumbo Drop. Like that would be clowning. That would be clowning. That would be straight clowning. So in this next clip, Alex does a little clowning himself.

We know that he's a man who loves the arts. You can't even make it through that sentence though. He fancies himself something of a cultural critic. Yes. And in this clip, Paul Joseph Watson is in studio and it turns out the two of them have gone and seen a movie and they decide to have a little together. Yep. That's gross.

And Anthony Gucci already. I bet they're the two guys who like they can't sit next to each other. Totally. They can't sit next to each other. They have to have like two or three chairs in between them. Yeah. And still insist on talking throughout. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, yeah. Hey, Paul, this movie is about globalists. So here's that. That would be a shitty MST3K if it's just the two of them watching an old movie and like, this is about globalists, right? I'm sure every movie, that's their response. Exactly, right? But here is Alex Jones critiquing the Matt Damon movie, The Martian.

Saw articles. In fact, I'm going to tell you guys to do this. A Google Asian group criticizes The Martian for not enough Asians. We went and saw The Martian live at night. Super boring, super stupid, super politically incorrect. Myself, Anthony and Paul, super. I mean, I want to get your brief review. You didn't know you'd be in here doing this.

Total mind control, the whole thing politically correct. And women are in charge of everything. Men are bumbling idiots, except for The Martian, Matt Damon. And he's not actually. It's just, we can't even build our rockets. He's not actually from. We have to go to the Communist Chinese, shows the Politburo in China, saving America with the Communist voting to save our astronaut.

Well, it's the Russian boosters we've got to have. So it's not even accurate. I mean, the Chinese. That's what I thought about The Martian too. The U.S. rockets blow up. It's the Russians still have the best heavy lifters, but they don't even have the Russians in it. The people sitting there don't even know the whole movie is international propaganda.

And it's every movie's like this. Folks, they just hammer you with brainwashing. Sorry, go ahead. And the whole movie worships Chinese people. And then the Chinese group, bitches, add more to it. Double big laugh. I mean, the Chinese space program, even when they went into lower Earth orbit,

there were questions, serious questions asked. You know, if they faked that footage, because it just looked like they were doing it underwater. So for the Chinese to come to the rescue in this film, and it was. We're not bashing the Chinese. They're real smart. It's clearly what you were doing. We use Russian heavy lifters.

The movie is horse crap. All of its deception, all of its BS. God, I'm sick of this lying demonic culture. So there's a couple things. So what, what did he want out of the movie? He wanted Russia. But he wanted Russia to be portrayed as the hero. He just wanted Russian rocket boosters?

Yeah, because technologically that's accurate or something. There's a couple things. There's a lot of, there's a lot of issues with the Martians science. And whether or not it's real. Oh, it's not. But also it is not real, Dan. It's fiction. It's fiction.

The things that I want to pull out of this that I think are really important are, if this was just someone else saying like, well, in reality, the Chinese space program isn't as evolved as blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Actually, the Russian space program has really advanced it. Like if it was anybody else, I'd be like, well, interesting point. But since it's Alex, and we've seen his very hard boner for Russia, it seems weird that in this movie review, he's even got to talk about how great Russia is.

So that's one thing. Yeah, I noticed that. The other thing that I think is even more important to pull out is that it's not propaganda. China is a giant emerging market for films. Don't understand. So what propaganda? So when movies want to be able to Russian rocket boosters, Dan,

movies don't make as much domestically as they do internationally. And when you do take that into consideration, often you do have to pander a little. We call it the Transformers effect. Or even the Fast and Furious. But I don't think that that's craven or fake. I think that's sincerely multicultural and beautiful. But other movies...

As opposed to the Transformers. Yeah, a lot of other ones are a little bit... As opposed to somehow making robots racist. That's a new one. Thanks, Michael Bay. Very racist and hacky altogether. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the...

You did it. Alex thinks that it's propaganda and... Let me tell you about my problem with the rock. Now, I'm telling you right here, Nicholas Cage is the bad guy in the rock. That's the truth? Oh, I thought you meant... Do you know why?

No. No, do you know why? Why? Not enough Russians. Yeah, absolutely. That's the problem. Too many chai comms. I don't know if even that's a way to make a sense.

It's a Russian nuclear weapon that he's going to blow up. I'm sick of this culture! So ridiculous. So, Alex Jones, cultural critic. Continues. How can you be mad at the Martian? For just depicting a different... I could see reasonable critiques of it.

Oh, no, no, no. I didn't think it was like an amazing movie or anything like that. And there was a lot of science that was, of course, narratively expedient. And it was written by... It was a book that was written, what? Like, 10 years ago or something like that? Something like that.

Yeah. It was an alright book. Hey, when you talk... It makes potatoes from spoof. It's fun. When you talk... Everybody have a good time. When you talk about movies being scientifically expedient,

it's like, hey, guy? Hey, guy? That's how movies are done. Nah, I don't understand. That's how science fiction movies work. I don't understand. They don't have to explain shit because they can't. Don't you...

Dan, it's predictive programming. You don't need hard sci-fi in movies. That would be exhausting. Stargates. Stargates are real. We know this. I know. Andrew Bozziago told me. Time travel. So, Alex Jones is still a cultural critic in this next clip.

I think his main issue is that he didn't... The Matt Damon didn't meet all of the other Martian soldiers that are actually there fighting wars. Yeah, exactly. Which is why they kidnapped those kids. If there was a scene in the Martian... If we could just splice it in where Matt Damon turns around and is like, wait, what the fuck are those kids doing here

00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,080 That's Carrie Cassidy's review of the movie. Where are the bases? Where are the bases? So, this next clip, Alex Jones. Cultural critic, like I said, continues. He's mad that there aren't enough shows on television about guns. Boy, what TV show doesn't have guns in it now?

Well, they're not all about guns, though. Alex has some thoughts about that. Naked and afraid is very specifically anti-gun. Because you can't even carry a holster. You can't even carry it. You don't even know where you would put it. Can't open Carrie up your butthole. Oh, if only you could, Dan.

That's concealed. This is half and half. This clip, he has a lot of thoughts. You're really good. He has a lot of thoughts about gun television, and then he lies real hard about how popular he is. But a free person, a person who's not a slave, to quote Thomas Jefferson, has the right to own guns.

And it's a fight between the logical people that know more guns means less crime, and the poor fools that have never been around guns. Every metric, every study, every poll shows we're winning the fight against abortion. None of those. In the hearts and minds, we're winning those. We're on the offensive.

That's why the enemy's moving so fast. You are on the offensive. And we're winning the fight on guns. Yeah. And that's why I was told by History Channel, by Discovery Channel, by A&E, and by one of the major production companies that produces reality television. That three years ago, the order came down,

and I talked about it at the time, and you saw it in the news, that they were going to cancel all the major pro-gun shows that were number one on every channel. Number one for those channels were gun shows. And by the way, I host. He's talking about those fucking duck guys, right? Currently, two shows on Discovery, two on History. It's not like I'm just here.

I'm the main commentator on four shows that are currently here. So, believe me, I've been offered a lot of TV shows. Yeah, you have. Wait, what? I want to, I'm sorry, I sort of shut you down there. I just wanted to make sure that everyone heard him say he currently hosts two shows on Discovery and two shows on the History Channel.

He has four television shows. What are you talking about? None of that's true. How can he even possibly say that? There's only one way, and it's like over the last 15 years, he's hosted four pilots that never made it to air. 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,920 Or something like that.

Okay. Because I've got his IMDb open now, and boy, howdy. There are not four shows on there. The only- Why would he say that? The only one that's possibly what he's talking about, and actually, I mean, we're in 2015 here in the investigation. This show ended, it got canceled in 2014.

There's a show called America's Book of Secrets, where it's like a Talking Heads show, but about episodes he's on are about secret prisons, the billionaire agenda, Area 51, Freemasons. Good stuff. He's on nine episodes of that out of like 35. I did not know he was allowed on television anywhere. Well, but he was also on Jesse Ventura's

conspiracy theory show. He's like a consultant that Jesse Ventura goes to for stuff. But that was in 2012, so that can't be what he's talking about. America's Book of Secrets wasn't on the history channel. It was on H2, the secondary history channel. And if you go past that, the only credits he has, where he's not an actor, and he has three of those, two Richard Linklater movies in Americanum,

the only things he has after America's Book of Secrets and tell the Joe Rogan experience are- The Joe Rogan experience is on his IMDb. Yeah, apparently. Wow. And then Get Me Roger Stone, those are this year. Before that, Gray State The Rise, which is a video documentary, which means that I wasn't on television.

That sounds like a solid name for a video game, though. I would play Gray State The Rise. No, I don't think it's a video game. It's a video documentary. No, I know, but I'm saying if it was a video game, I would play that. Maybe about Alien Gray is running around. Maybe about Dorian Gray.

Conspiracy theorists lie, which is a documentary about- How he's a giant liar? I wish. It's just about Alex being a liar. I wish. It's about the Kennedy assassination. Okay. The conspiracy theory conspiracy, which is a documentary about conspiracy theories

being a conspiracy, as I'm guessing. Might as well go deep into the rabbit hole on that one. And then Revelation, dawn of global government. All of these are one-off documentaries that probably didn't air on normal television. Gotcha. So he's not the host of anything. He's just fucking lying. Main commentator on four shows.

Yeah. And- In 2015. Right. Currently. Currently. As that moment. Fuck it.

He's still the main commentator on four shows. I get a lot of offers. Yeah. I get a lot of offers. He's been on TV? If he got a fucking offer, I guarantee he'd drop everything and be like, David Knight, you're in. Yeah.

You take over the show for the next two weeks. I'm going to go shoot some stuff. Oh, of course. Like John Cena does. He takes time off the WWE, shoots a season of that American grit show, and then comes back. Alex would do the exact same fucking thing, get a paycheck. Right. So he doesn't have to push so goddamn hard, sell this boner shit.

It's a super male vitality. You brought John Cena up again. There we go. You didn't do the theme song. I was mad. I was mad. I was mad. It's a great theme song.

I was mad. So also the idea that the no gun show stuff is a narrative that's been pushed on Alex's show by Ted Nugent because he's mad that his show got canceled. Right. That's basically what Alex is talking about. Right. Right. But just horseshit.

I mostly kept that in because of the I'm on four shows. No, you aren't, bro. No. Also, when like the idea that discovery, the history channel and A and E would all just go to him and be like, Hey, no more gun shows. None. Three years ago, we're going to get rid of them. Yep.

Why would they tell Alex that? Especially when there's still unless Alex is like, Hey, what have I made a show without of guns? There's still so many shows about guns on. There's like so many shows. Top shot. I don't know if that's still on, but I mean, there's that whole world. Yeah.

Duck Dynasty. Yeah. The heavily featured a lot of shooting. Yeah. There's tons of stuff like that. Alex is just like, Why isn't there more? There's always, there's never enough. Right.

Yeah, that's true. But he loves guns and get this. He's not just a guy who loves guns. He is also a prophet. He is also someone who proselytizes about guns. And you know what? It's fucking successful. Not only is Alex out there spreading the good word about guns to his right wing audience.

He's also converting a lot of dumb, dumb liberals who happen to have television shows on HBO. Yeah, that's right. Check this shit out. Wait a second. Sure, because if you take a trendy out and you teach him to shoot, Mike Judge and I, not once, not twice, but three times, he's back in town. He tried to go see him. Yeah, that's very classic.

I need to call him. Not name-dropping. I just remembered I need to call him. He brings out a bunch of Hollywood people out to his big ranch. We sit up there on his back porch shooting down like 500 yards, 50 cows, you name it. I took the cast of Silicon Valley. Whoa. Not once, but twice shooting in his ranch.

I brought out a bunch of guns. And Judge and I were like, yeah, we're here to make you not be anti-gun. And within an hour of them shooting, they were all pro-gun. And said, yeah, I should be able to have one of these. Camille and TJ are pro-gun now? They're pro-gun. That's Zach Woods. Yeah.

11, 12 people. The cast of Silicon Valley, one of the top shows on HBO. It was that easy. And we religiously did that. And Tobolowski. He brings them here, takes them out shooting. And Martin Starr. Yeah, Martin Starr.

And then we just sit there and crack a beer after we're done and just had a satisfying conversion to people becoming armed. And they all go, I get it now. It's just weird until I shot and it was so easy and it was fun. And you know, these women were shooting bulls-eyes and stuff at 200 yards and getting all excited and all. And they were learning safety and everything. You were taking five of these guns, but they were shooting two.

And we're sitting there like the ladies tea on golf. And they go, yeah, criminals are going to have them. Why shouldn't I have them? I can be trusted. I'm not bad. Sounds like Camille. Yeah. And like these women, we're like, yeah.

It wouldn't be feminist for women to be armed. Because they say the feminists say women shouldn't have guns. Why? Women should be armed. This is a classic misunderstanding that Alex is having. And it's because he's unwilling to engage and listen. The reality is that the arguments that feminists have about self-defense classes and guns and stuff like that is, hey, let's focus on the real problem,

which is men are assaulting us as opposed to making the responsibility ours to fight them off or shoot them. So Alex is being like, feminists don't want you to be armed. The reality is that they would be fine with people being armed, but would rather focus on the issue that is at the core. I'd be fine with only women being armed. Sure. But that would probably be a way better world.

I mean, there is a much lower incidence of violent crime amongst women. There's way less domestic abuse as well. Yeah. There are way fewer women who are convicted of domestic abuse and then go on to shoot eight or nine people in a public space. So now that we've had... Strangely enough, though, when it's the other direction, a lot of dudes convicted of domestic abuse

or have those issues in the past almost all wind up going around and shooting all those people. Well, I'm not sure if that's true, but the ones who do go up and end up shooting people and committing mass violent crimes almost always have domestic abuse. A history of domestic abuse, yeah. Whether it's against a partner or a mother or a sibling or something like that, it's always fucking there.

And I don't know. 40% of men should be dead immediately. Now that we've outed ourselves as dumb libtard cucks. Right. Like Tobolasky. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. Do you believe that for a second? That he took the cast of Silicon Valley?

We know that Hank Hill is sort of based on him, so it makes sense that Mike Judge would be taking him out. Right. Like, that does make sense. Right. I love first... I mean, I don't believe any of this. No.

But be that as it may. I love the image of Zach Woods, Martin Star, Camille, T.J., all going out and they go out to the fucking shooting range with Alex Jones, blow up some tannerite, hang out and then they leave and Mike Judge and Alex Jones sit around and have a beer and talk about how great it is to convert people. Like that image in my head of the like post-quadal beer that they're having. That's exactly what it is he's describing.

Yeah. That is so amazing to me. Like that idea, because that's the world he lives in, in his head. I'm going to guess. Probably. I'm going to guess that it did happen. That Silicon Valley cast members, maybe not all of them, but some of them did go to Mike Judge's house

and they did shoot with Alex. I'm going to guess that. And Alex is so incredibly passionately, guns, guns, guns, and also clearly was drinking. Yeah. As he's indicated that they were probably like, oh yeah, it is fun. Yeah.

Yeah, totally. I like it. Sure, Alex. Yeah. That still doesn't sound like, I don't know. I'm going to guess it's a weird situation. Next time TJ's in town, let's ask him about this. Hit him up.

Yeah. You know what? If I had more time to research, I would have, I would have contacted them if I had more time to research, but I do not. But anyway, the other, there was one other thought. I like Zach Woods a lot. We haven't even brought up Thomas Middletitch,

and he's the main star of the show. What are you doing, dad? I don't know. He fades into the background. When you have the star power of Zach Woods on stage, and who else is secondary. He's so good in the show too. Zach Woods so much.

He's terrible in the Martian. Because he's playing one of the Chocos. He was playing one of the Russian Rockets, and they didn't even allow him in the movie. He played, he played the entire Polit Bureau. So I think. He could pull it off. He's great.

I think what we can really sum that up is, Alex loves guns, pretends everyone else does too. Oh no, this is the thought I had. Yes. I had some friends in Missouri who were super into guns, and they took me to the gun range. And I get it. I totally, like I'm not anti shooting guns

for leisure or sport or whatever. Like I get it, it's fun. It is really fun in a safe environment, but it also, when it takes over your life and it becomes so important to you, I really question that. But like just sitting there shooting a gun at a thing, like there's a stick.

Pretty great. Yeah, amazing. Pretty great. Yeah. I've never, my, no, I've never done it. I can't hold a gun. It's bad. Court order.

Oh boy. I think that you are slightly closed minded in that, but I don't think it's a problem. Because I'm a libtard cock. Well, I don't think it's a problem, but I think that there is, you can have some fun out there with a gun. I understand.

I thought like you before I went out, so maybe I'm making Alex's argument for him. No, no, I watched your, what's the, what's the show? Mythbusters. I watched Mythbusters and they talk, they talked about how fun it is to shoot guns all the time. Totally.

Like they totally got it. And I get it too. I'm sure if I went out, I would be like filled with all of my testosterone, you know, feeling like a God able to kill anything at any moment from a distance. I'm sure I would feel like that. That was the experience I had.

I'm sure that I would feel like that. But yeah, no guns. That wasn't the experience I had. It was more like it's an interesting machine to use. It's like, oh wow, I can create change way down there from here. Exactly. It's almost like, I mean,

I kind of would get the same thrill out of like a really good slingshot. Kind of, you know, it is. I don't think you would. It's a really good slingshot. It doesn't have the recoil and the fire and the explosion. Yeah. And but it's something,

it's almost like a telekinesis. Like I'm doing something and changing something down there. No, exactly. And that was fascinating. But I mean, who cares? I believe you. I went out like twice. And I don't care.

I don't disagree with you. I'm still going to go with no guns. I don't know why I'm doing such a fucking like. I don't know. You're trying to tell me about guns. I'm trying to do like a really rational version of like, hey, guns are fine, but calm down. No, I understand.

Because that is sincerely where I like land on it. Yeah. You know what you are Dan? Reasonable. You're a fucking centrist. Oh no. You're a centrist. Oh no.

That's what you are. You're a centrist, Dan. I'm not, though. Come on, Dan. How about you drop some super predator language, huh? Now that you're a centrist, why don't you try to triangulate? How about you ride a wave of triangulation to defeat George H.W. Bush?

Why is it not OK for me to be like reasonably OK with guns, but like also gun control should be a thing? I'm just fucking with you. I understand that. But like the parody that you're doing is a real person. That is a thing that people do pull out in the same way that there's a lot of different. Like the alt left is thrown around by idiots

in the same way that centrist can be thrown around by idiots. Yeah. But it's not in, you do have a very reasonable position. All right. And it's defensible. And I get that. And I'm not going to try and take it away from you. And nor am I going to take your position away from you.

I think mine is a very reasonable one as well. I think probably the the. You should probably shoot a gun. I should probably shoot a gun. Glad we found common ground. Then I get addicted to guns. We can find more common ground in this next clip. I might as well face it.

I'm addicted to guns. Let's start over. So in this next clip, Alex Jones gets really offensive about a whole bunch of things. First of all, the schools and then lesbians. See, they got our kids in the schools. They got them there. They're teaching them.

Your mommy and daddy aren't your boss. Here's how you perform fallacious. It's all just just infantile silliness, but that's just the cover of the non-threatening. Oh, we're a culture of fun. Just join us. Just mesh with us. Just sink into the quicksand with us.

Oh, goofy, goofy. So the men run around acting stupid, and then women are repulsed by them, and then go off and find some butch woman to be with because they can't find a man. That doesn't make sense. Butch woman will have a short haircut and have the duck's ass hair style,

and wear the blue jeans and roll up her arms and get over her cuts. Yeah, I see these beautiful women over there with a girl. Well, it looks like a guy going, get over here, baby. Hit a pool hall and walk over to your buddy's girlfriend. How you doing, baby? Why are you with him, huh? Because the men aren't being men.

Hey, listen, cutie, go get your own girl. How dare you? I'm a lesbian. I'm not gonna talk to your girlfriend. I mean, see, it's all about a muscling. It's all a bunch of bullying, muscling. They teach us not to be men, and then there's all these faux men now.

God, I wish somebody taught you how not to be a man. You fucking pilot. So they know what they're doing. You fucking garbage, human being! But that could take people out there for two hours and have some safe, good fun. Over back on guns? 130-pound woman shooting a 50-caliber rifle.

And when they shoot a big old quarter-pound charge of tannerite and a stump blows 100 feet in the air, and we're shooting sender blocks and they're exploding, the Viking barbaric energy rises. See, that's the bad stuff. It's good energy. It's high energy. It's strong.

You're meant to be powerful. You're meant to build incredible machines. You're meant to take risks. You're meant to excel. You're meant to be strong. You're meant to be honorable. All right, I'm going to go to your phone call. Which is why you should treat women poorly.

You're meant to be honorable. That's why you should fucking... I love his argument that chauvinism is good, no matter who's doing it. Like, that's the issue there. It's like... Men aren't chauvinistic enough, so women have to take over.

So now women are chauvinistic, and he's got that jealousy in him of like, what are you doing? I get judged for being chauvinist, but lesbians don't, and you're like, well, that's because they don't fucking... You're an idiot. You're an idiot.

And also... Maybe sometimes women are just attracted to other women, and that's nothing to do with chauvinism. Right, but I'd like to clarify one thing. That story that he tells about being in a pool hall and a lesbian hitting on his friend's girlfriend, he's told conservative estimate 25 times on the show that I've heard.

Well, yeah, but each time is a new piece of evidence. Exactly the same story, all the same details. It's a new evidence. That means that 25 women have hit on 25 of his friends, girlfriends, in 25 different pool halls. That's entirely not possible. And that's why Buckley is a cuck. Cuckly.

How have we not gotten there? I don't know. Boy, it took us a long time. Yeah, yeah. All right, we can end the show now. I'd like to also clarify, because a lot of people don't know what tannerite is. It is this explosive thing.

You get a box of it, and you put it down stream from you, as it were, at a shooting range, and you shoot the tannerite, and it makes a big explosion. So it's just a way of... It's like a firework that you can shoot. Yeah. Kind of. A lot of people are unaware of that.

It might sound weird. I didn't know what it was until I looked it up, quite frankly, because Alex kept talking about it. Right. But the other thing is, he's talking about shooting these logs, and they blow up, and cinder blocks, and there's a little bit of a pause.

And I want to remind everybody that on a show that we did a couple months back, he was talking about being out, shooting with Mike Judge, hitting some tannerite with some cinder blocks, and a piece of the cinder block came back and hit him in the head. Right.

Which is one of the things that we suspect may have caused some brain damage. Yeah. So he's glorifying this, like being out there shooting and all that, not realizing on another show, he's talked about like, I got fucking hit in the head

with a piece of a cinder block. Maybe it's not all good fun. So I'm doubling back on my position even, that if you're not safe and not careful, even recreational shooting is not good. Maybe it happened at the same time. When he's drunk, shooting with the cast of Silicon Valley. So he's shooting with the cast of Silicon Valley,

gets zonked in the head. All he remembers is that the cast of Silicon Valley loves guns now. But maybe now he is just a man with a very serious concussion and it's concocting up all of these bullshit lies. Let me be clear. If I'm Zach Woods and I'm out there shooting with guns,

shooting guns with Mike, I can tell who your favorite character is. I just love Zach Woods. He's great on improv for humans podcast. He's just, he's brilliant. He's super funny. He's very, very funny. The, if I was out there shooting

as a member of Silicon Valley and Alex Jones shoots some Tannerite, gets hit in the head with a cinder block, all of a sudden I'm like, this is the best time ever. So maybe I would be turned around. That's true. Recreational shooting can get Alex hit

in the head with a brick. Great. It's a simple cause and effect solution. Absolutely. That's what it is. Now I'm going to go out there all the time. So this next clip. Hey, Alex, Alex, shoot that one.

Shoot that one. Shoot that one right there. No, no, no, don't shoot any of those. Shoot that one right there. Walk a little closer. We've had a lot of fun with some clips so far, but this next clip is where shit gets a little bit serious on October 12th.

This next clip involves Sheriff David Clark. Why do we have such shitty sheriffs? Because there's this whole sheriff movement. Yeah. I started reading about the fucking constitutional sheriff, which is just die. Just fucking die.

All of you need to just die now. Well, it turns out that, I mean, go to the gun range with Alex and have a piece of cinderblock go right through your brain because I fucking hate all of you. Honestly, that might be what's happened in the past. Yeah.

That's why we're in the state we're in. That's possible. Alex keeps shooting with sheriffs. By the way, that's going to be my show. That was, oh, dammit, you got there faster. So I was actually going to put it on the food orc, though. We haven't really talked about it, but Joe Arpaio can go fuck himself.

I hope he dies. I hope he dies immediately. I don't care how he dies. I don't give a fuck. I hope he dies now. Trump can fuck himself for part of him. I hope he dies too. There's a couple of really interesting things.

There is a 1915 Supreme Court decision about pardons that may come into play that's actually kind of interesting. I'm not entirely sure. I read the Supreme Court decision. It's a guy who was a journalist, and he was trying to be compelled to give up his sources that he had, and he got pardoned by the president

in an attempt for them to be like, you are not going to be charged. You can give up your sources. Yeah. And he refused the pardon and ended up going to jail. And so the precedent that was set was that you can refuse a pardon. And by agreeing to a pardon, you have admitted guilt.

Yeah. So there is a piece of it, and this is sort of disputed law even to this day. But there is a sense, and there is... 1915 Supreme Court decisions don't sound... Very rarely do I look back at any Supreme Court decision from that era, which is pre-9 judges. Very rarely do you go back and look at those and go,

oh, they got it right. But there are precedents that are set still. Yes, exactly. And there is an argument that can be made that by Joe Arpaio accepting the pardon, because it is a choice. You can reject or accept a pardon. I'm guessing he's going to accept it.

Yeah, he did, all right. By accepting it, he admits his guilt in the matter at hand. So he should be able to be sued in civil court and lose all of his money. That's hopefully his arms and legs. It's possible. And he should be a just fucking torso tortured until he dies. It's unclear whether or not that will hold up,

or if that's the route things are going to go, but man, do I hope so. God. Also, people need to go back and listen to our episode about the Dennis Montgomery investigation, because I really think that there's more going on in terms of the Alex Jones, Joe Arpaio, Donald Trump nexus, that people are not paying attention to.

And I think Dennis Montgomery plays into this. Along with the birth certificate shit, the birther stuff, the fact that Dennis Montgomery is so entwined in Donald Trump's belief that Obama was spying on him, it doesn't, it's not a small thing. And people should really go back and analyze some of that stuff. Also, we did that episode like what, five months ago?

Yeah. We were way on top of this Joe Arpaio stuff. Suck it. Still hope he dies. Everyone else. I wish he had died five months ago. Everyone else. I wish he had died 50 years ago.

Totally. Everyone else is fucking piling on and getting a thousand retweets for their Joe Arpaio take. And we did a fucking in-depth investigation five months ago and maybe got six retweets. So the world is flawed. That's our main issue with Joe Arpaio right now. We're not getting enough takes.

I'll let myself, I'll let my ego take a back seat. Let's just deal with him. God, I fucking, I can't, I can't, I saw that. There's so, there's so many, like it's really not high on the list of all the worst things that are happening right now. Like Joe Arpaio, Arpaio getting. Transgender banned.

What's 80 year old man getting pardoned. Right. Doesn't mean that much in the grand scheme of things. You know, it really doesn't. But that's just one of those demoralizing fucking things where it's like nothing matters. These guys, these guys run everything. And so they can just act with impunity.

And what can you or I do? It sends a profoundly bad message. Yeah. Because I think the worst part about it, I mean, the worst part about it is everything. But the part that is really, really depressing is that Trump phrases it and frames it as he, he got a witch hunt against him for doing his job.

Yeah. Which means that the implication is all the atrocities he committed was that was his job. That was his job. And every sheriff who isn't doing that, isn't doing their job. His job was to, you know, bust up places and arrest every Latino person in it.

You know, just do sweeps and shit. Like the stories that are coming out even recently, like people who have been like, oh shit, he got pardoned. Let me tell you what happened with me. Yeah. It's just horrifying. Yeah.

He's a murderer. Yeah. So fuck Joe Arpaio. Fuck Donald Trump. And fuck Sheriff Clark. Fuck Mike Zulo. Fuck. Are we just going to do it?

Are we going to do an Arya Stark list here? Yeah. God damn it. If I was a faceless man. Oh boy. The shit that would go down. Be dangerous. I'm not, I'm not going to say,

I'm not going to confirm nor deny whether or not I am a faceless man. I've never seen you as someone else, but why would I know? Exactly. So this clip has David Clark in it. And the, it's about how Barack Obama. You have, you have heard me refer to myself

as no one though, many a time. So many times. So there is. I have to cut it out of the podcast all the time. That's why editing takes me so long. A co-host is no one. Stop it. This is about how Obama went to Oregon

after that shooting that happened, like a week or so back in the timeline now. Yeah. Like a, like a president. Yeah. It's like a good fucking president. David Clark has some thoughts about it. And when we get back on the other side,

I'll explain why these thoughts are deeply troubling. I mean, what helpless jackasses that have inherited this incredible republic, the greatest men in the world ever seen, all the foreign historians marveled at America. And now, now these people have taken over the house. This is what collectivism has created. Giant piles of stupid jellyfish.

Let's go to the club. Man, you know, he never misses an opportunity to politicize something. Anytime there's a tragedy that happens in the United States, the first thing he does is goes into his political bag of tricks to see what he can accomplish on his agenda. And then I think that that's sad that he exploits these people.

And they saw right through it. That's why I said I'm glad they did it. You know, there's a certain amount of respect for the president of the United States. But when he takes advantage and uses them to achieve a political agenda, I'm glad to see that they, that they slap back. This is a do as I say, not as I do president.

And he speaks as he's surrounded by this protective bubble, which he should have with the armed secret service. If he wants to disarm people, he should start with his security staff. You're a fucking idiot. That's right. And let's get that meme out there, folks.

In fact, let's repost Drudge's clip, the article about Drudge says, you know, Obama drop your guns. I want to repost that article. You know, the same article. And I want it just to go viral. It need, did you hear me last Tuesday and Wednesday? I said, this is going to go viral.

And everybody picked it up. A lot of them gave Drudge the credit. Drudge is a communicator, folks. We have to get aggressive. We have to counter them update. Matt Drudge challenges Obama, give up your guns. Disarm Obama. So here's why that clip is particularly troubling.

You have Sheriff Clark on television making the same point that Alex Jones and Matt Drudge made on an episode like a week back or so. Yeah. Now here is the part that's even more troubling because that would be fucked up on its own. Right. That you have this Sheriff.

I don't know why he's being in national television, but still telling that the president should have his security removed or whatever. Because we're dumb and America deserves everything that it's getting. That would be crazy in and of itself. But about a month or two, I think two months after this, Sheriff Clark was in Russia.

Sheriff Clark. Why is Sheriff Clark in Russia? He went along. Because we talked about that before. There's, that can't be an okay thing, right? Unless he's on like a nice vacation. But then he winds up in the most Russian administration that America's ever had.

Well, thankfully, he didn't end up in the administration. He stepped down or whatever. Oh, that's right, that's right. He was in Russia at the same time that Michael Flynn was in Russia. And the reason he was there was because he was part of an NRA delegation that went over there. And they met with this gentleman named Rogozin. I mean, that's not his first name.

Dmitry Rogozin. He's a hardline deputy to Vladimir Putin, the head of Russia's defense industry and longtime opponent of American power. He's been sanctioned because of his role in the invasion of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. And so Sheriff Clark, along with some other folks who are super gun positive folk, went over and met with him.

Which they claim was just because he's into guns. Like, I don't know. I don't think that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So we just went over to meet with one of the most high powered men in Russia because he loves guns.

We love guns. He loves guns. There's definitely nothing to look into now. Everybody look away. No big deal. Here's Alexander Dugan to tell us why this isn't a big deal. Yeah, exactly. Here's something that I want to impress upon everybody.

Let me just read from this article in Daily Beast. Rogozin was the leader of the ultra-right party called Rodina or Motherland and famously believes in the restoration of the Russian Empire, including what he calls Russian America, which is to say Alaska. To wrestle control of the party, he turned its course from a party

that was occasionally in opposition to Putin to a strictly pro-Putin party. In 2005, Rogozin and his party miscalculated Putin's anti-immigrant mood and got kicked out of the parliament for a chauvinistic promotion video that said, let's clean the garbage, featuring Central Asian workers eating a watermelon and spitting on the ground.

So he is a bigot. Wow. He's even more racially angry and against immigrants than Putin. This is the guy who David Clark went over and met with in Russia two months after he's telling Obama to give up his guns and Alex is saying, yeah, all right. Wow.

So you have a triangulation, at least in terms of the people who are making the exact same point and saying it the exact same way. In Matt Drudge, Alex Jones, and David Clark, that is an incredible problem. Yeah. For all of them. Yeah.

For all of them. For all of us. Apparently, they have no problems. No. Apparently, they are fucking... If you can pardon Arpaio, who is really under any kind of threat now. If you're an ally of Trump,

the point that he just made was, I can do whatever the fuck I want. And laws don't mean anything as long as you're my friend. Which is the entire problem with a monarchy, which apparently is what we are just dealing with now. Like, that's just what's going on. Like, why did we elect people who hate America so much? It's amazing to me how much they despise America.

How much they hate the Constitution. They hate people. But they love the Constitution. They don't even know what the Constitution fucking says. The people who scream First Amendment or Second Amendment rights don't have any fucking clue what the words are. And even if they did read it,

they couldn't comprehend what it fucking says. There's some great old videos of Sam Cedar going out to, like, Libertarian marches and asking people about the Constitution. Yeah. And there's some fucking amazing, like, well, I haven't read it, but I'm planning on it. Yeah, oh man, I'm planning on it.

You're at a Constitution march. I hate these people so much. So, I wanted to just read this quote, too, because I think this is important. This is from that same article. It's disconcerting that they would be meeting with a Russian official about anything, given their vocal support of the president.

They're talking about Donald Trump. Yeah, yeah. Said Representative Mike Quigley, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, which is investigating Russia's attempts to influence the 2016 presidential elections. Due to the NRA's opposition to sanctions, it defies credulity that they wouldn't have discussed sanctions

and their extraordinary support of Donald Trump's campaign. So, you kind of get the sense that they were over there in some sort of, uh... Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Exactly. You scratch my back. Putin owns you. Or you have already scratched our back. Yeah.

And the idea that this sheriff who is a monster and is responsible for a lot of deaths... Also a murderer. Yeah. The fun thing about the constitutional sheriff movement is apparently, let's murder people as part of it. Yeah, it seems like a tenet. It's like Deuterte in fucking the Philippines,

where it's like, hey, just go murder people who do drugs. Just, we're going to deputize everybody. If you kill somebody who does or sells drugs, you're fine. Constitutional sheriffs strike me sort of as like, uh, mid-range generals in a junta. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like, they think that they're military. They think that they know whatever one wants.

And it is not. And it's mostly sociopaths. Like, David Clark and Joe Arpaio are two of the most awful people imaginable. And they're remorseless. Yeah. So, I just don't care. I think that an image and a picture is starting to become clear

that there are a lot of people that are either actively working with Russia, David Clark, and people who are being duped by Russian influence and propaganda, Matt Drudge, Alex Jones. Matt Drudge's influence, like whether he's actually, like, he knows what he's doing, I can't tell. I have no idea. He's an influencer. Yeah, but I think that Alex Jones is fucking moron.

I think that David Clark is certainly knows what he's doing. Alex Jones is being fooled. And then Matt Drudge, I have no idea. But they're all saying the same thing. That's a fucking problem because it is a talking point and a narrative that is clearly coming out of Russia. So. Hey, guys.

Let's hope that our wanted House Intelligence and Senate Intelligence committees are going to figure this thing out and they're just going to, we're just going to wash it away. This investigation is so fucking weird. It's going to be solved. I didn't expect any of this. No, I think it's, I think it's. It's so fucked up where we're at.

It's weird to go through all of this because I am such a skeptic on like, oh, Russia did it. And and none of the like, you know, and that's a lot of the one of the ways that people are saying that we're deflecting from the fact that Hillary didn't go to Wisconsin or whatever. She should have all of those. She absolutely should have. Yeah, I'm not deflecting anything.

Agreed. No, I agree with you. But the more you unpack this shit, the more it's like, god damn it. Donald Trump is on tape peeing on a lake. Like there's not much else to say at this point, other than that we that Russia did it. Well, there there is like, I genuinely believe that one of the ways that you can really exploit media and trick people is following along with the idea that people can't keep two thoughts

in their head at the same time. Yeah. And that, you know, one of the games that propagandists play is tricking you into thinking that two things can't be true. And in this case, Hillary should have gone to Wisconsin. Absolutely. That is true. Yeah.

And Russia clearly did some fucked up stuff. Right. That is also true. Those both can be true. Right. It doesn't, they aren't mutually exclusive at all. But the way that everything is presented tricks you into thinking, oh, oh, if you believe that Russia fucked up, then you're excusing Hillary.

Yeah. Or if you're like, no, Hillary didn't need to go. Who cares? You know what I'm saying? It's just nonsense. No, it's, it's so much, it's so much Twitter takes. It's so hard to. Hot take culture.

Exactly. You know what fucking, we're recording this over the weekend. And last night I was monitoring Hurricane Harvey hitting and that hot take culture. I'm fucking done with it. Yeah. Watching it happen in real time with an actual natural disaster happening was just so fucking distasteful. Just people making jokes and stuff.

Yeah. Like, hey, there's a building that just collapsed and people are stuck inside and might not be able to get out. It's, it is super weird to, to watch that. Like because, and it's super weird all across the board because a lot of the stuff that we are vehemently against that we're just like, like I'm screaming about our Pios fucking pardon. It isn't actually affecting me like from, from where we're at.

I mean, but not yet. I don't feel like the personal effect of it. Yeah. Like I go home and it's not like anything that I've done has been changed by our Pio being pardoned in the same way that it is so unimaginable to think of all the damage that is being done while we are talking. And I just, I, you know, you just feel like a certain amount of disconnect from it if you're watching it through your phone.

And so that's, that to me is why it makes sense that the Twitter sphere can just do all of this bullshit because it doesn't even look real. It looks like you're watching it on TV. Yeah, you're watching a disaster movie. Yeah, exactly. And it, it's a real disaster movie. Yeah. It looks a lot like it.

It's fucked up. So we're going to get back into more heavy geopolitical issues, but in this next clip, Alex Jones goes to the phones and he gets just a dumb, dumb fucking caller. Let's go to Brad and Louisiana. Thanks for holding her on the ear, Brad. Hey, cowboy. I just wanted to let you know that you should,

you're going to be the first to know that I'm no longer racist and I can prove it. No, you can't. I had a high level respect to source confirm the fact that though I'm Caucasian, I do have a color and we found out what color it is. And it happens to be a eggshell beige. So I kept a copy of the swatch of paint from the home improvement paint manager in my wallet right behind my, right behind my driver's license. And so I'm a cushion of color.

Now, secondly, I'd like to. I myself am kind of like a pink, like piggy pink. I've seen you into the rosy kind of hues there a couple of times, but yes, I'm official. So I guess anybody can say anything about that. So yeah, great. He goes on to talk about social security. I just, I just wish we didn't have to live in the same country as these people.

It's pretty wild. Can't we put them somewhere else? They should succeed. We should. Yeah. How about this? If you're, if you're a MAGA, we put you in a camp. What about the pro wrestler?

We put you, we put you in a tent camp in Arizona. You all have to live there. And we're just going to make sure that the temperature is always 150 degrees. I'm not going to respond to this just because I know you're joking, but I don't want to play. Am I joking? I don't know anymore. I don't know anymore. Me neither.

No one is joking. Me neither. Fake laugh. Fake laugh followed by real laugh. That's a weird twist. Speaking of weird twists and a twist that is not weird at all. This next clip. Wait, no, no, no, no, no.

You can't do that. I can't do that. That's a cheap, that's a, you run your own transition there. Did I or did I zigzag? All right. One of the two. I'm going to zog. So speaking of zogs, this next clip.

All right. There it is. At a certain point. We found the transition right there. At a certain point. This just becomes a verbal tick. It's all it is. So this next clip.

Alex Jones talks about someone that he really admires. And then our government's trying to act like, you know, they're actually fighting ISIS, but Putin's gone in. I mean, I tell you, I don't romanticize Putin, but you know, he is really putting a major cramp in the new world order. So he's talking about how like our government funds ISIS and Russia are the only ones who are really taking care of business. And he tries to put on this pained expression of like, I don't want to romanticize this.

I'm not, look, it pains me to say that Putin is better than us. I'm just saying he's a beautiful looking man. Yeah. And whatever kind of caveats he wants to make to it. It's clear he has a profoundly pro Russia, pro Putin. Absolutely. Perspective. You know what?

You know what? I have like, okay, so they all hate the world government. Yada, yada, yada, hate the UN, blah, blah, blah, blah, globalist. Yeah. Right? Sure. So if we do switch to Alex and fuck it, why not Putin? Let's just throw that in there.

He just hates the real globalists. I guess the UN or whatever it is. He hates those who would stop his expansion. Yeah, exactly. He wants the old Soviet Union back. And apparently Alaska. Yeah. Well, take it.

No, we got a lot of oil in there. Oh, that's right. We got to make sure that we have all of that oil. Right. Because, you know, Mad Max is coming around the corner. Yeah. If this kind of rampant nationalism does take hold, and there is no negotiating bodies between these countries,

there is no United Nations or anything like that. Yeah. What, like, do we still trade? Do we get news from these other places? Or is it, like, just wall everything off and shut it down? Well. Like, it's because of the EU. It's because of the UN.

It can't be wall everything and shut it down. It will be strong countries exploiting poor countries to a greater extent than we even do now. Yeah. It would be bedlam for most countries that don't have something to offer. Yeah. It's, that's the thing that they don't really ever discuss

in terms of, like, hey, you know, we all got to live on this world. Right. It's not like, I know that borders mean something in terms of, like, here's America, here's Canada. Yeah. What have you. But at the end of the day, they are illusion.

Yeah. It's not really real. We all are on this orb that we're living on. And you can't, like, we can't all survive unless we work together. And that recognition is why there are those bodies. And they, this is the fucking thing that drives me crazy. It's the same thing with the central bank and the Federal Reserve.

If you really look at the history of our economy, everything has been much better since the Federal Reserve. Maritime law, Dan. All right. That will come back up. Oh, no. Come on. I think not this episode.

No, you're, you're, yeah, no. So everyone is super mad at the Federal Reserve. And they're not great. They have done a lot of really shady things. And it is still a profit business that they're in. And they should be regulated far more closely than they are. And we should expect more out of it. But if you look back, we were way worse without them.

Yeah. And of course, the UN is not perfect. We can go back countless examples of atrocities that have gone on on their watch. Like Agenda 21. I would have gone with Rolanda. OK. I would have gone with any number of the times that they

Tomato, tomato. Any time, any, any number of times that the international community had a responsibility to stop something from happening and failed for whatever reason. That said, there are a number that would have happened that didn't happen because those bodies existed. And I just don't understand.

I understand paranoia. I understand fear. I do get those things. But I don't understand complete denial of the positives. That part really does not make sense to me. But they don't want. Like they don't have any interest in that second part, right?

The positives? Yeah. So they want genocides happening on localized levels. And they want you to be able to print your own currency. They want completely fluctuating stock markets to the point where everything is fucked all the time. See, no, they don't want that. But it's the entirety of the GOP.

It's the way that their brains work, is let's tear all of this stuff down because it's not working the way we want it to. And then they don't do that thing of, OK, well, then what do we build after that? They have no idea. Like it's always like, hey, we need to cut taxes as much as we can.

And then they never say, OK, well, since we don't have any money for the federal government, what is it that we keep and what is it that we get rid of? And they're like, no, no, no, if you cut taxes, the government has more money. And you're like, well, we've proved that's not true because of Reagan. Well, no, no, no, we will do it right this time.

And there's never any sense of what are we building that is going to be better. They have no interest in that because the people who are always, always behind all of this shit are the ones who are going to profit the most if you tear down these protections. And privatize everything. And that's fucking billionaires.

That's who's that's they've they've hoodwinked the dumbest, weakest, most idiotic members of our population by telling them that look at all of these things that aren't helping you as much as you want them to or convincing you that they're not helping you at all. And they've convinced Alex Jones that there are shadowy globalists.

Exactly. That he has convinced millions of people to fight against as opposed to the real problem. Exactly. Which is that's a fascinating thing that maybe we should explore another time. It's a brilliant. It's a brilliant psychological twist.

Like they have pulled off a a war against the poor by making the poor think that they're on the right side. Like it's amazing. I hate to keep bringing up Sam Cedar, but he had a really good point about Alex Jones. That was. He can go fuck himself. Well, that too.

But what does he think about John Rappaport guys? Thank you for listening. You can check us out. No, if you do that bit, we have to end the show. I know that's not a hard rule. All right. That's not a hard rule. We'll be back on part two.

Besides, I was I was I was putting the words into Sam Cedars. But he does that bit. We end the show. That's for sure. Yeah, Michael Brooks does it. We keep going. We keep going forever.

But David Brooks does it. We get to kick him in the shins. David Knight does it. We fall asleep. So Sam had a good point about Alex Jones. That is, Knight Rider does it. We OK. Anyways, John Cena might become Knight Rider in the movies.

That's not true. It's in the gossip rag. Anyways, yeah, what his point was that if you were like some of these super rich people who have vested interests in keeping people poor and, you know, privatizing things and all that, what you would want is to create someone like Alex Jones to distract everybody. If our controls didn't exist, the best thing possible would be

to create an Alex Jones. Yeah. And I don't I don't actually think that that's the case that someone created him as controlled opposition or anything like that. But it is interesting to think that accidentally he is serving the greatest purpose towards us not progressing. Yeah, it's fascinating.

He is doing everything possible to make sure that all the stuff he says he wants never comes about. And everything he's afraid of happens. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, race war. It's one of those things where it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in this regard, especially. Or a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Yeah, except he's the one who's making sure that all the stuff doesn't happen. Yeah. But it's because the billionaires can pay so many people to do this shit. Like they don't even need they have like the Heritage Foundation. They have all these think tanks. They have billionaires in all the different countries who.

You know what might work for us? If we stop calling them billionaires and start calling them oligarchs like they do in Russia. Maybe we start putting a different label on it. And we start like, ooh, I don't like that word. Yeah. Well, it doesn't really help all. It doesn't really help Russia right now, does it?

No, but it did for a little. Not really. No, it didn't. But like the idea of billionaire is aspirational. oligarch is kind of like a gross term. That's true. I don't know. I think we should call them what they are.

Carpet baggers? Globalists. Oh, boy. So nobody likes a globalist. We got to stop going off on so many tangents and get through this because we got a lot of meat. OK, all right. Next day is October 14th because on the.

Tito's got good to me. That's all. Oh, boy. See, now you wish you brought more. No, I don't. OK. I'm still hungover. Can't work through it.

You want a beer? Yes, please. All right. Thank you very much. You're going to work through this thing. So on the next. You got to drink your way to the other side. On September.

On October 13th, Paul Joseph Watson hosts the show. So I didn't watch it. Don't care. Can't stand him. Yeah. So we move on to October 14th and clearly Paul Joseph Watson has gone back to London because Alex Jones starts the show by lying about him.

If Paul Watson wants to go out and demonstrate against radical Islam, he will be arrested at the train station when he gets off every day in the news. They arrest writers and journalists and anyone who criticizes radical Islam. If you remember five years ago, they banned Michael Savage going to England because he criticized radical Islam. Stop saying that.

Well, that's just Michael Savage. No, it's not just Michael Savage. It's going to end up being everybody. This is totalitarianism. It's not. Michael Savage was banned from entering the United Kingdom because they believed that his speech was hate speech and it is.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is because it's not criticizing radical Islam. He talked like legitimately. I have watched a bunch of Dr. Savage. And so much of the stuff he says is so aggressively awful. It is conflating Islam with terrorism to an nth degree. Of course. He, I've brought this up on the show,

but it's the worst example of him I've ever seen in my life was when he was on, when he had a television show, he had a gay activist on the show and he told him, I hope you get AIDS and die. Like legitimately, he is that kind of an awful person. Wow. So the idea, and he does incite people a bit. And so the idea that the UK would be like, you can't.

And we're not letting you in. Yeah. Totally cool. Right. Also, the idea that you can't criticize Islam without being arrested. Alex, you're living proof that that's not true. That's true.

You do it all the time and you're fine. Paul Joseph Watson does it all the time. He's in London. He's fine. So you're whole like either in America or in England. It's totalitarianism. It's not. You guys are.

It's selective totalitarianism. Right. It's very specific totalitarianism. Right. And then his argument that like if he went out and protested it, he'd get arrested. What are you talking about? What does that mean?

Like I don't think that's true, but I also don't trust Paul Joseph Watson to have a reasonable protest against Islam. No. I imagine it would turn into a bigot fest. Who would have guessed? Whether he wanted it to or not. Right.

I don't think that he or the fan base that they have has the restraint to not turn it into a let's burn down that mosque kind of thing. So I mean, it's stupid. When you and your existence is proof that your argument is wrong, what do you do? What do you do? Make the argument anyways, Dan, clearly.

And yell a bunch. Yeah. What are you talking about? Well, I guess you create. These people don't fucking care about hypocrisy. You create a fake enemy, the globalists, who are constantly about to take you down. Yeah.

That's what you do. Yeah. I think we just cracked the nut. So all right. That's been Knowledge Fight, ladies and gentlemen. No, we have 20 more clips. Holy shit. All right.

I'm going to be real quiet for the next 45 minutes. No, you won't. 20 is a little high, but we do have a lot of clips because I teased earlier in this episode that we may or may not make progress. And we're about to get to the point where. Which would suggest that we would make progress because whenever we weren't making progress,

you didn't tease anything at all. Smart. So we're about to get to the point. We're about to get to something that is, I think, transformative and might be a very major piece of Alex Jones transforming into a Trump propagandist and, by the by, losing his mind. He got hit by a larger piece of concrete.

Because Middle Ditch. There it is. I was trying to think of another person who's on Silicon Valley and I'm ashamed. I shouldn't have thrown out Tobolowski so early. Yeah, I know. You should have kept that one in your back pocket. That would have been a great callback.

In this next clip, Alex Jones is going to get into a narrative that I sincerely think is a push narrative. Like this is a big one for him. And he's lying about everything. Let me get to the story that was so incredible yesterday that I spent well over an hour researching and I couldn't believe it when I saw the Fox News headline

Buckley texted it to me. Confederate flag supporters indicted under Georgia terrorism law. Now, if you've grown up anywhere in the South or in East Texas on different Confederate holidays, people get in their big four-wheel drive trucks. They drive around with rebel flags and American flags. They do it at the beach.

If you're in Florida or Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, I mean, this is just what you grow up around. I have a complex historical view of it. It's very, very sad when I see it. No, you're not. Because I really know what it represents. It represents the South being completely set up and being fools.

And I'm going to get to that here in just a minute. But separate from that, it is their free speech. And the Confederate battle flag presents slavery, other than the fact that some bad people have expropriated it. Sure. But if you're able to ban the Confederate flag, you're able to ban everything. And we'll be right where Germany is,

where they take your children if you criticize the government, socialism, global warming, that's in the news today. They now arrest you in Germany for it. They're trying to make it EU-wide, the UN once at worldwide. That's mainstream news today. Illegal to say. I'm going to pause that for a second, because there's another narrative

that Alex has been spinning for the last week and a half on the show or so. And I've just sort of tossed it by the wayside. He thinks that Germany has reactivated the Stasi in order to get you to never talk bad about immigrants. Well, Germany does have one of the strongest anti-hate speech That's one of the reasons why I neglected the narrative. Because there is truth to what he's saying,

but not what he's saying. You know what I mean? No, and they have used it against both sides, so to speak. Like we've talked, I'm not sure if on the show or just privately, about how if you express Nazi ideology, you get arrested there. And there is that sort of, it doesn't jib with our idea of free speech, but definitely makes sense based on the history of the country.

I mean, if you committed a genocide, maybe the national law of, hey, let's not do that anymore. Don't ever associate with that fucking group. Yeah, exactly. That makes sense. It's not terrible. And Alex. But then it's also used, like it is one of those things

where in the same way that it can be used against people we don't like, it can be used against people we do like. Like there is, the First Amendment is super important. It's super important that the government can't make a law restricting your ability to say what you want to say. And can't shut down distasteful speech. Yeah, now I think they should have made it more specific. Like you can say, like here's a law that I would pitch, all right?

Hear me out. OK. In Congress, you can absolutely express your right to say whatever it is that you need, and the law will not punish you. However, it is also legal to punch a Nazi in the face however many times you want to. Sure.

See, there we go. That's a good law. Skirts around free speech. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. But the point is there are these elements of German society that are outside of our idea of free speech, but they're not reactivating the stasi. That's absurd.

You usually get fined. Yeah. Alex is going on a bunch of tangents about how people are getting their kids taken away. If you look into it, it's like, well, there's other issues. That wasn't because they said immigrants are bad. It was because they were unfit parents and there's other. It's the same thing with that narrative

you spun about how if your kids playing basketball past five, the state takes them away. Or it's just nonsense. But anyway, the narrative that he kicked into about Confederate flag, people being indicted, is going to come back in a second. But before you do that, let's listen to the rest of this civil war revisionism.

That the carbon tax and global warming and all this is a fraud. Of course, climate change is happening. It's always happened. This is the precipice we've reached. And in Georgia, they're in the whole Confederate flag fight where they put the guilt of 10 poor black people killed by mentally ill white supremacist onto anyone that supported Southern heritage or anything else.

Robert E. Lee, who was an amazing individual, was one of the Northern historians, didn't own slaves. Ulysses S. Grant did the Northern general. It's just all bull. Was the North wrong? From a Southern perspective, yes. But both sides were fools. No.

And I'm going to break that down because people need to know the full story and not have identity politics of you're a Yankee or you're a Southerner. You need to understand the real paradigm and to understand that we can go back to slavery. President Andrew Jackson, 30 years before the civil war. Slavery. And it almost happened before.

Was it about slavery? And his protégé, Sam Houston, who tried to stop civil war and was removed and was spit on and had things thrown at him in Texas because he said, you're being set up by British intelligence. Of course, he was right. But that's a separate history lesson. When we come back, a badge and four or five trucks driving

around with rebel flags on them. Black folks are all angry. The media has told them it's a symbol of killing black people. They throw some bottles. The police come. No one's arrested. And then the state indicts the people for the rebel flags saying that it was an act of terror.

That saying free speech is an act of terror. Didn't you just say that they threw some bottles? No, he's saying that the black people threw bottles. OK. So he's mad because that means the black people are being racist. And they're committing the act of terrorism as opposed to these guys who are just waving the rebel flag, Dan.

I am sure that you have looked into this and you agree 100% with Alex Jones that is restricting free speech. Totally. Hit me. I can't. He's right. About everything.

He's not. Because this narrative is going to be a little bit bigger, I just want to dispense with one thing. I did some research into Robert E. Lee. And he's a really complicated figure in history. But he absolutely did have slaves. Oh, yeah. And he was not a good dude.

But oh, no. One of the things is he was accused of having slaves. And he did. And his argument was that he had gotten these slaves when his dad died. And in the will, it said, free them five years after I die. And so that was his argument, was I'm going to free them five years after my dad dies

as his will wished. Unfortunately, the Civil War broke out three years later. So who knows if he would have freed them? I don't know. If it were me, I'd have been like, dad's dead. I don't give a shit about his wishes. If I were actually against slavery, like, OK, guys, just don't tell my dad if you die.

Like, just don't tell me. Don't tell my dad. You'll be in a different place, right? Just don't. Hey, my dad owns slaves. You're not going to be seeing them anywhere. Guys, don't snitch just on the off chance. Don't snitch.

But the other thing is he seemed to, in a lot of letters, have a negative opinion of slavery, but did not advance that position publicly and didn't work against it at all, which, to my eyes, means he wasn't really against it. But be that as a man. Also, he fought for the south during a war about whether or not we should keep slavery.

Right. So that kind of suggests that he was probably pro-slavery. I just want to give some validity to the argument that Robert E. Lee is more complicated a figure than the black and white version of awful and great. He's probably more in the middle and towards awful, but not as bad. Who cares?

Look, I'm not trying to be a centrist on this, too. He wasn't Stonewall. Let's put it that way. Right. Yeah, yeah. So now, to the point about this, people flying the rebel flag and getting terrorism charges. God, they should.

Boy, they did so much more. Who would have guessed? They did so much worse shit. And Alex pretends that he did an hour of research, and that means that he knows everything I'm about to tell you, and is pretending all that stuff didn't happen. Do I want to hear what you're about to tell me?

We've actually talked about this in passing on a past episode. OK. Because this incident happened on July 27th of 2015. Oh, OK. Party crashers waving Confederate flags disrupted a black child's birthday celebration. Oh, for fuck's sakes. Yep, in Georgia.

What? Shouting racial slurs and death threats, party goers said. The intruders cruised through in pickup trucks, taunting their targets, cell phone videos showed. A second video captured the uninvited guests shouting the N-word from grassy fields during Saturday's confrontation. Quote, it's a child's birthday party, an angry witness called out to them.

Party goers claimed to hecklers brandished guns, tire irons, and knives as they threatened to, quote, kill all the N's. So that's the story from New York Daily News. Well, it's just the rabble flag. That's what it is. That's from the media is the one who's telling you that it's a symbol of racism.

That's from the New York Daily News. This is from the Washington Post on October 12th, 2015. At the time, party goers said the caravan of trucks drove into the neighborhood, parked in an empty field near the home, and began making threats and yelling racial slurs. Quote, one had a gun saying he was going to kill the N's. Party host Melissa Ashford told the Atlanta Journal

Constitution, quote, then one of them said, give me the gun. I'll shoot them N's. OK, so just as a barometer for how we're doing, I have moved my position on white genocide from a soft no to a maybe. Not a bad idea. So that's maybe not the best idea.

But it's in the running now. So that's from October 12th, which is right around the time, like a day or two before where we're at now. Now, if we flash forward to 2017, the case ended. In February of 2017, the case was finalized, and you'll be thrilled to know that the people who got charged cried in court and went to prison for years. They got hard charge for terrorism.

Good. Because they acted as a street gang. That's what, yeah. And so here's from an article, again, in the New York Daily News, from February 27th, 2017. Again, white people in America are the single worst group of terrorists. Video footage from the party, little more than a month

after Dillon Roof's Charleston church massacre, shows a parade of trucks roaring by with Confederate battle flags. One person has heard shouting the N-word, while witnesses said that another had a gun and said he was going to kill the Ns. Prosecutors have said that the cases against Torres, Norton, and other defendants

are not based on their right to fly the Confederate flag, but on threats against the victims. Quote, this is behavior that even supporters of the Confederate battle flag can agree is criminal and shouldn't be allowed. Douglas County District Attorney Brian Fortuna said in a statement. He was wrong.

Well, you expect decency out of people. You would. Yeah. So that's not what, Alex's version of what's going on is not what's going on. Shocking. Man. That, like the tweet that Obama sent out,

the most liked tweet in the history of the world. Oh boy. The one in which he, it's him with the picture, and he says, hate is not something that you're born with, it's something you're taught. It is almost one of those things where it's like, maybe we should take your kids away. Maybe we should take them.

And I don't mean that kind of a thing. Maybe it is a bigger issue that the family is what it is. Like it might be a better idea if it was more community driven and less, you're raised by whatever random ass people you came out of. Well, you know, I mean, you know, like it's not, it may not be a bad idea. Maybe talk about the idea of becoming a type one civilization,

getting off planet and stuff like that. Like that's the conception of what progress is in the grander scheme. Right. If you look back in the history of humanoids, I guess human like beings, if you go back to Neanderthal times and even beyond that, just human civilizations, homo sapiens sapiens, like you see different patterns

of culture. You see matrilineal, matriarchal societies where everybody is much, much happier and everybody gets laid a lot more. Or you see avuncular civilizations where the uncles raised children and it becomes a much more community intertwined thing where your children aren't your property. Everybody is sort of, they all have a vested interest

in raising children together. And just because that is in the past doesn't mean necessarily that those ideas can't possibly be the future. Like as we drift towards massive shifts in how we live, like the idea of going off planet is crazy. Like we would have to change everything to accommodate that. The idea of staying on planet is crazy at this point. Everything's crazy.

But also the idea that society has to stay the way it is in terms of discrete family units and in terms of like, I mean, we've even in the last 50 years chipped away a little bit, I think, at the idea that man runs everything in household. You know, there are changes that are happening. And it's entirely possible that we do end up getting to maybe not necessarily uncles, but an avuncular type of pattern. And it really does make the most sense when you consider,

yes, it is important to all of us how children are raised. We're seeing the results of, you know, what it's like whenever these horrible fucking bigots get raised by horrible fucking bigots, who are raised by horrible fucking bigots, who go on and on and on back to people who owned people. It's super weird that strangers' children really do affect your life, but they fucking do. So anytime somebody says, don't judge other people for how they raise their kids,

no, fucking do it. If somebody is raising their kids bad, yell at them. Please. Agreed. But do it, I don't know. Do it in an avuncular way. Sure. So these next two clips, I'm just going to play.

They're Alex Jones saying really terrible things about this battle flag situation. Just put the mic down. Let's play these without commentary to get through them. Jesus. Because it's just going to turn into screaming. Here we go. South Padre, and there's all these cars and trucks driving back and forth.

And then every 10th car would have a Confederate flag. And, you know, they were on a lot of times looking for trouble. I mean, you'd be at your bonfire or whatever, and they'd pull, go, what do you, you know, bleepers do it? And if you said, well, get out of that car, I'll stomp your head in the ground. And they go, no, no, we got beer. Let's party.

I mean, it's, that's not what all these people are like. But the average Southerner is not driving around doing that. So I've personally experienced stuff like this. But is it terrorism? Absolutely not. And I'm giving these black folks a benefit of the doubt. And saying maybe something happened to them. Because the media was invoking anybody that's got a Confederate flag

wants to murder black people. And you got black folks climbing in backyards, front yards, pulling down flags. I mean, you got the illegal aliens pulling down American flags at post offices now. You got American flags banned all over the place in schools. Well, there we go. We get back to that narrative, the Ninth Circuit Court narrative.

So that's offensive, but this next one's probably worse. And now, 160 years later. After the Civil War. Yeah. 155 years later, they will arrest you and charge you for terrorism if you fly the Confederate flag. And people's feelings get hurt. So you can see where political correctness goes.

They wind up all the so-called minorities to see racism and hate everywhere. When they get upset, you get arrested. And when that precedent is set, it's going to be everybody. So in that clip, he's blaming the people who had racial slurs thrown at them when they were having a children's party. The dudes with guns, pipes, and knives rolling through with standardly racist flags.

They were just upset. They were just triggered. Shouldn't have been such a problem with safe spaces, Dan. Stupid snowflakes. You know, you think about those birthday parties, and you're like, buh, snowflakes, all of them. You know what the problem with children's birthday parties is? So afraid of truth.

I know. I just, I go to children's parties all the time, right? And I go in there, and no one wants to debate. What's going on, you fucking cowards? Yeah, ridiculous. It is, it is, it is an interesting, it is an interesting thing. That's an interesting way for you to start this sentence.

No, I just, I'm just thinking like, are we still at war with the Confederacy? I think some of them think that. Much like people who got stranded inland in Vietnam or in Korea, they thought the war was going on 30 years after. Yeah, the Japanese guy who thought the war was still happening until like 1994 or whatever.

Yeah, you hear stories like that every now and again. Yeah, I think some of those ding-dongs are in that same headspace, in that same mentality. Like, are we still at war with the Nazis? Like, there's a certain part of me that's like, it is. It is an issue. Anytime you fly the Confederate flag, it is a problem. It is a symbol of owning people.

That's what the Confederate flag is, full stop. Sure, I agree. But this comes down to what we were talking about earlier with the downsides of complete free speech. Because in countries like Germany, where they can shut shit down real hard, it make it like, once the civil war is over, we probably shouldn't have been as generous

and be like, oh, yeah, keep on, you know, celebrate or whatever. Right, right, right. There should have been a stamping out of like, no, you need to be punished for your sins. And same with the Nazis. Like, we accept free speech to such a degree that we're like, I mean, neo-Nazis have been around since World War II.

Yeah, that's true. In some fashion or other. Maybe they weren't called neo-Nazis. Well, the 80s were rough with neo-Nazis. There were a lot of them around. Yeah, and we just like, well, hate what he says. I'll defend to the death, he's right to say it. You go Voltaire on their ass.

Right. And then at the end of the day, that leads to them building up. Yeah. And then you think, I don't think there's a good answer. You think, if you go the other way though, you get, you know, World War I and the Treaty of Versailles and you just destroy a people until they want to start

another fucking war, you know? That is entirely possible. It's, it's, what's the, it has to be defeated with some sort of positive thing. And I just can't see any positive thing whenever you're talking about people who want you dead. Like when you're talking to Alex Jones, he is describing leftists as people who are pedophiles,

who hate you. Want to kill your kids. Who want to kill your kids. Like how do, how do you combat that with positivity? Like that's, it's, it's an insane idea that we're. Well, I mean, we're making laughs out of it. Well, yeah. That's positive.

Yeah. And explaining truth. So I mean, right. I don't know. I love to take every opportunity to say that we're doing great. Yeah. But you just held up your Fitbit too.

So there, there we go. I'm already got my steps for the day. I'm doing great. So this next clip, Alex Jones talks about how Obama is mentally ill, but he also says something that I think is really, really huge to our investigation. This is exactly like there's a Trump tweet for every occasion. Like every, every time we go back to 2015

and he describes Obama, all the stuff that he hates about Obama, it's like, no, you're just describing Trump. Yeah. Obama was none of that shit. The guy that you are talking about is the president now and you fucking love him. Yeah, because he's not black. Because he's not black.

But more important, the part about Obama being mentally ill is just like, I mean, that's window dressing. Yeah. Something else that comes up in this clip, I think is profoundly important. This is a big deal. And Obama is mentally ill. I'm not sure.

Dr. Pachennick is a Harvard psychiatrist, MIT scientist, one of the fathers of modern psych warfare at the Pentagon. He's the one to come on and get him on, but he says Obama's mentally ill. So Dr. Pachennick is about to show up. Is this our first? I think he's been on the show years in the past, but he has not been on in this entire run

that we've been doing. Like 2014, I didn't see appearances from him. But I think he had been on before. I don't think it's like- It's not the first time they've ever spoken to Pachennick. From hearing Pachennick, but he has not been around and the counter-coup narrative has not come up.

Okay. Steve Pachennick is about to show up on the Alex Jones show. Okay. Because whenever Alex says, I'm gonna get them on, generally they show up within a few days. Right. So we can expect that. The bigger piece I wanna take away from this

is that if you're dumb, like Alex Jones. Or me. No, you're a little smarter than Alex Jones. But even still you and I, I'd lump us in with this. If there is someone who is an expert in psych warfare, don't make them a regular guest on this show. Because you- That's such a good point.

You're not smart enough to know if they're committing psych warfare. Yeah, who's doing it to who? Yeah. Right. I didn't consider that. This guy. That's fucking fantastic.

Who's a part of psychological warfare could be using you for his gain. Nah. He could be using you to further his agenda. Nah. And like I've said many times, my theory is that everyone is lying to Alex. Whether it be Russian media, Roger Stone, Steve Pachennick,

all of his guests and influences are basically tricking him into this box that he's put himself in that ended up being a very large part of why we have Trump as a president. Yeah. So I see that and like his recognition and admission- That's such a hilarious thought. Like, oh, I'm gonna, I've got a great get.

The guy who invented psych warfare is gonna tell us about psych warfare and he's like, wait. Hold on. Why would he do that? Hold on. He's the guy who invented psych warfare. There's probably- Wouldn't he always be doing psych warfare?

Like is this dude ever not warfare and psychically? Our next guest is a known con artist. He's gonna tell us all about, yeah, just he's gonna be straight up with us. Yeah, yeah. Our next guest is a malevolent wizard. All right. Great.

Don't do it. Don't have that person on the show. It drives me crazy. Like I just, and the fact that he recognizes and gives him like that as part of his credits means that he knows he's not guarding himself nearly well enough. Like, you know how we've talked about this

like months and months back. A lot of the time Steve Pacenek does seem very rational to me in the sense that whenever he's talking about Trump cannot allow Gorsuch to be on the Supreme court. He's a neocon. All those are like, the guy's making a decent point. Right. But then you have to remember that he also doesn't believe

that Sandy Hook was real. He has a hundred other like really terrible things in his resume. Right. But what does he believe? Believe in psych warfare. Exactly. And believes on our last episode,

he believes that Alex Jones is great at riffing, which is evidence that he's a liar. That's true. That's definitely true. That's psych warfare. Yeah. Alex riffing is psych warfare. That's true.

Different sides of the same point. No, that is a great question or a great point that you made is that once you have that as his credit, anything that he says in public, you cannot believe. Well, you have to at least really fucking examine. Yeah. And the idea that Alex trusts him implicitly to the point where things that he says

that have no evidence behind them are just taken as gospel, that's real dangerous. That's a real fucked up headspace to be in. It's dangerous to give anybody that kind of trust. Well, especially when a psych warfare person is coming on your show and giving you stuff that feeds into your confirmation bias, you really should analyze it.

And Alex never does. He just is like, Steve, you're great. You think I'm funny. I've always wanted people to think I'm funny. And I don't know why they never do. Because I'm not. That's self-reflective, Alex Jones. That character does not exist.

So in this next clip, Alex Jones says, I mean, this could have been an out of context drop. I just think it's offensive. Women will likely have to register for the draft. Army secretary says, hey, you like those new rights you got to be a slave? We yikes. So yeah.

You like those new rights you got to be a slave? I think he's talking about women's lib. I think that's what it is. Oh, you like being treated like an adult? Now you got to take the draft. Yeah. There's a lot of women in the service. I mean, yeah.

Yeah, Alex, that's kind of how it works. Yeah. I don't understand. I don't think that women would be offended by it. But that's always had, I love that. Because that invalidates that argument that Chauvinists and assholes always make is like, oh, feminism, you don't want all the same rights

because then you'd have to do all of the same shit and there's a lot of shit you don't want to do. You know, that kind of thing. It doesn't invalidate. It shows that Alex thinks that. But the point being, if it does happen though, all of a sudden he's like, well, see, now we're equal and there's nothing there.

There's nothing other than just ignorant, I don't know, hatred or whatever. Yeah. Ignorant condescension. Like what else would you describe it as? That's the kind of sums up Alex Jones to a T. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point.

So Jordan, this next clip, we get back to a very familiar theme in 2015, Alex Jones. Russia. You got it. The Russians have been working with us to take out the Taliban for at least eight years in Afghanistan. Joe Biggs was supplied ammunition and supplies

in the army by Russian hind helicopters. The Russians have been doing this. They are surrounded by radical Islamists. There's more than eight countries that are on their underbelly with jihadis attacking people. And the Russians want to take them out. And they won't even meet with them. They won't because it's their army.

Incredible. Incredible. The army. Doesn't sound that incredible. Well, it's the globalist army is these radical jihadists. Sounds pretty credible. You know what's not credible? Anything Joe Biggs says.

Isn't, doesn't he work a desk for the National Guard or something like that? Joe Biggs? Yeah. What are you talking about? I don't know. But that's not something that's come up on this show. I don't know that to be true.

Oh, okay. If it is, I don't know. Okay. He works a desk at Info Wars for sure. Right, right, right. And goes around the country with Jakari Jackson to non-existent photo ops. Right.

Where the president may or may not land somewhere. Right, right, right. That was the last trip they took. Look, I mean, there's historical and present inaccuracies in what he's saying. And he's just doing things to conflate the idea that this proxy army of angry Muslims is one side and Russia is really the only people good on the other side.

And that's really deeply problematic. Deeply. He's gotta be getting paid, right? He's gotta be getting paid by these people. You think so? He has to be. I mean, I'm not cherry picking. I am bringing up whenever he talks about Trump

and I'm bringing up most of the times he talks about Russia. Right. But he never says anything negative about Russia. Yeah, I mean, even if you are flattered by Russia. But he wasn't at this point. Dugan hadn't said any of the stuff he says about him later. Like he's the perfect model of an American and stuff like that.

That came in late 2016. So at this point, he hadn't been, he just sees himself in Russian state media. He just sees familiarity and narratives and he doesn't realize that it's because he's absorbing their narratives to some extent and because their narratives are harshly conservative and oppressive.

That's true. And that secretly is where he's at too. Yeah, you're right. He's all about freedom, but at the end of the day, his philosophies are incredibly, incredibly oppressive. Yeah, he's very against freedom. He likes talking about it. Yeah, loves it.

He would prefer that nobody but him had it. He loves to fake cry, but where he really belongs is being the mouthpiece of an oppressive regime. And I mean, I've started to wrestle with this as we've gone along. We started this with why did Alex Jones become Trump's propagandist? And I've started to realize now, months into this,

I mean, of course he did. What else would Alex have done? At first, because I hadn't listened to nearly as much of Alex Jones as I have now, I thought like, man, it's real crazy that this conspiracy theorist decided to just jump on this train. But the more I think about it, the more it's like, we all should have seen that coming a mile away.

I thought it was fucked up, but now it's like, yeah, of course. Well, yeah, we, everybody has written him off as a conspiracy theorist for so long that nobody paid attention to his hard right oppression views, like nobody really... And harsh coded bigotry and love of guns and... Yeah, I don't like those being combined and I really don't like that those are almost always combined.

Almost always. That's not great. You know what, if we can say one great thing about Alex Jones, it's that he's a student of history. As we've already seen, he has a great grasp on the Civil War. This next clip, this next clip actually dovetails into the Trump investigation. Cause I, like I said, I haven't cut out anything

where he's talking about Trump up to this point. This is the first time he comes up now, almost two hours into our episode. He talks about Trump a little bit. This is a forgotten piece of the campaign. Okay. Apparently, some lady asked him a question with her hands on her hips and asked him a question

about like how bad he is about women. Yes. And Alex does not like this. Oh, I think I remember that. And it weaves into a story about himself and a very fucked up retelling of history that is not true, but it's mostly about himself. Wow.

And then I think about Jeb Bush caught with a pro-life senator's aid with her hands on her hips, bugging her eyes out like, how dare you not like women? Just all in grandstanding to manipulate women to make a national issue. Just see that woman stand up to him. All theater, all posing, meeting with behavioral psychologists

had to put her hands on her hips, look at him with pure hatred. So I want to pause there really quick. I don't think anyone needs to meet with anybody. Psychologists are otherwise to know how to put your hands on your hips. Secondly. Or how to look at somebody with pure hatred.

When you hate them. If you have pure hatred for them. But let's also take this within the context of Alex Jones saying that the gun-free UT was run by Bloomberg and had CIA tactics and stuff like that. He's making this up about this woman who asked Trump a question. He's making that up and saying,

this is all brainwashing. That's all he does. Every single time something like this happens, he just comes up with a concoction of, oh yeah, of course. Oh, this is brainwashing, oh yeah, yeah. But it's- I'm a big fan of him judging other people for grandstanding.

Right. That's one where you're listening to that, you're like, dude, fucking dial that, leave that one alone. She wasn't fake crying. Yeah, no kidding. But also, so he's making stuff up all the time. And this is obviously another made up thing.

But then at the same time, we have to consider that he believes that psychic goblins are attacking him. And what have you. So like- Literal psychic goblins. Literal. Literal psychic goblins. So he also is imagining all this stuff.

That like, he's projecting this idea of everyone's trying to brainwash you in the same way someone critiquing him is a literal goblin. Yeah. So it's just this really fucked up. Anyway, let's get through this clip. Then CNN goes, did your mother ever look at you like that, Trump?

This is how they stage stuff. This is how dumb they think we are. And whether Trump's a good guy or not, this is how they pull these scams. It's like Michelle Malkin. I'm not against Michelle Malkin. I agree with her on most stuff. Not good.

She said that I was a liar years ago. Yep. And said it was a robot dog that Marines threw off a cliff. I'm not against the Marines. I'm against the defense of that type of behavior, killing a puppy for no reason. I have no idea. Fine.

I have no idea what it is that point was supposed to be. And enjoying. And she went out and wrote an article and said I was a liar. Well, you are a liar. Now the Marines had even come out and said we disciplined them, it was a real dog. And then she had guys with her. Yelling, kill Michelle Malkin,

leaning down behind me with cameras on me, yelling, kill Michelle Malkin. And they ran a national hoax that day. Hard copy, extra, NBC News, CBS News. It was all over. I want to pause here again just to say, fine. Yeah. Like, if Michelle Malkin did this scyop against you,

whatever. I apologize. I don't apologize. Sorry you had to go through that. I don't support Michelle Malkin either. That's fucked up. That's the right cannibalizing itself. Sucks to have to go through that.

Doesn't relate. Doesn't relate at all to what's going on. I do love that. Like she called me a liar. Now I'm not against the Marines. Ah, wait, what was that? What are you talking about? I don't know what that story is about throwing a dog

off a cliff. There's a robot dog. I can only fucking look into so many things. There's a robot dog. I only have enough energy to, and this is like Astro. This to me is like, whatever. I don't care.

You are a liar. Maybe weren't lying about this. Again, who cares? Exactly. Let's get to what he's super wrong about. I got calls from National Talk Show host saying, Alex, you may be over for you saying kill a woman, beat up a little woman.

And we got our video. Our video showed they were doing it. Thank God we have a video from behind. But this is the type of stuff they can pull. I'm not saying that Dean was a good guy, but he was going to end up basically beating Hillary, beating Obama. He was a popular guy.

And so they ran that hoax where they, you know, isolated the microphone that was a corduroy, not corduroy, how do you pronounce it? Cordus microphone? Cardioid. Cardioid. That's it. I'm having a moment.

Cardioid where he only picks up what singers use, you know, in a rock band or whatever, only picks up what's right in front of it, not the background. Well, you sound like he's screaming. Everybody's howling. And they go, oh, the scream, and again, those type of stunts, they try to do that

with Trump right there. And when you've experienced them running a national stunt on you, it's not fun. So his argument is that much like the Howard, His argument is that the media be stuntin' on him. Well, but just like the media took down Howard Dean with that scream thing, that's what they're doing to Trump with this lady with her hand on her hips.

And he argues that the reason they took down Dean is he was too famous, too popular. He was gonna destroy Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. I'm starting to think, if I, I'm remembering back. Uh-huh. No, this is interesting. You might be more of a historian than Alex Jones. I'm remembering back to Howard Dean.

Yeah. And I'm picturing him standing next to Obama and Hillary. And then I'm remembering that he was not running against either of them. It was 2004. It was 2004. When he was running against John Kerry, I believe. Yeah.

It was just before the Iowa caucuses in 2004. And I'll give you a... And he won, he had a surprise win. No, not in the Iowa caucuses. No, that's right. He came in third. He came in third, but it was a surprise that he came in third.

Right, because of the scream. Yeah. Everyone thought he was unhinged. And that was a right-wing smear tactic based on a technical difficulty with the mic. It was not a setup by Obama and Clinton. But let's go down the list of all of the people who are running for the Democratic nomination,

just for fun, because I have the list up in front of me. John Kerry, John Edwards, Howard Dean. Obama. Dick Gephardt. Hillary. Dennis Gucinich. Obama again. Wesley Clark.

That's it. Hillary's evil twin. Wesley Clark is the closest Alex Jones might say to a globalist. I guess John Kerry. He probably thinks John Kerry. Who's Wesley Clark? He was a general who...

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why would he... Salt and pepper hair. God, why would... What a weird world. Yeah, he had a lot of support for a hot minute, but it did not last very long. He came out with that whole thing

where there was plans to take over seven countries. Yeah, yeah. Howard Dean would have been a great choice. Yeah. And it's another one of those situations where, boy, the guy the Democrats did put up was the worst possible guy at the time. John Kerry.

John Kerry was a terrible presidential candidate. I remember in 2004, my brother drove around with a rehabbed beetle that he had fixed up himself. And it was made of John Kerry? No, the reason it came up is because he had a bumper sticker that he made himself on the back window. And it was a carry 04, because even mediocrity is an improvement.

Yeah. And that sort of sums up... That sums up Kerry. I think... It sums up the Democrats. Especially then, yeah, and now. Fucking now, yeah. But I think, I sincerely think that John Kerry

could have been a decent president and had a real decent chance of winning had it not been for the Swift Boats, which is Jerome Corsi and his ilk who are involved with Info Wars and Larry Nichols. So congratulations, Larry Nichols, for destroying 50 years of our countries, at least 50 years.

Who knows how long it's going to extend to the fucking future. Well, fuck, imagine if the Supreme Court hadn't stolen the election for G-dubs. Initially, yeah. We wouldn't be in Afghanistan. Probably not. Who knows?

It's stuff to rewrite history. Well, that's true, but it is hard to... You'd like to think. It's hard to imagine that a Democratic president would get away with the biggest lie that you can possibly give, which was the war in Iraq. The different country that had invasion.

Yeah, that's insane. Yeah, you're right, you're right. The right is much better at... I mean, they're wrong. They get a pass because we all know they're dumb. Well, the thing is, I think, that the right is always wrong, but they're better at being a safeguard.

You know, like, Democrats, when they're in power, can never really do too much, because the right is so angry and so aggressive that they push back on everything. So even good things get pushed back against, and bad things get pushed back against so hard. And the Democrats don't really do a great job of doing that to a conservative Republican.

Well, we get called the alt-left. Right. When we fight against fascism, it's a bad thing. Creeping socialism. Yeah, exactly. Creeping Sharia. Ugh. So this next clip...

Our whole system is broken. Yeah, totally. So, Alex Jones, towards the end of this episode, has a long bowl session with noted chiropractor, Dr. Group. Yes. He comes in to... Noted chiropractor.

He comes in to talk about how supermail vitality is gonna be back in stock. Alex Jones also... I was running low. Alex Jones only... 2015, there was a shortage. It was like the 70s gas crisis. Totally.

Stagflation, but with supermail vitality. Yep, yep. So, Alex Jones... A different kind of stagflation. You know what I'm saying? Add a boy. There he is. So, Alex Jones keeps doing this, like,

Dr. Group's gonna be on, but this isn't about selling product. I just want to cover the waterfront with him. He uses that expression a lot, by the way. I fucking love it. I think we need to use it a lot more. We're gonna cover the waterfront. We're gonna cover the waterfront.

All right. But he's like, we're just gonna talk about the issues it turns into. Of course, a really long sales pitch. Yeah. But, in the middle of it, we get this. Well, before we go to Simon, man, Dr. Group, what do you make of Russia

hitting those ISIS targets and now already driving them out of many areas? Why are you asking Dr. Group? Why are you asking Dr. Group? Saudi Arabian, Western-backed, offensive. Russia's tried to come to the US to have meetings... In your capacity as a chiropractor, how do you feel about global foreign policy?

The US diplomats. This only happens for folks that don't know at the beginning of World War II, the Japanese stopped seeing their diplomatic counterparts two days before Pearl Harbor. So it's unprecedented that diplomatic connections, even in the Cuban Missile Crisis, in 1961, 1962, were going on.

Diplomatic connections have now been severed. Russia's been kicked out of the G8. I don't think, and not our audience is very smart, but for the general public, I don't think they realize, Dr. Group, this is unprecedented. But you just mentioned a precedent. But be that as it may.

It's unprecedented, except for the times that it's happened in the past. Except for the time that I just mentioned seven seconds ago. But be that as it may, you're right. Why the fuck are you asking Dr. Group about that? I cut it out, because it's a long, meandering answer, but he's just like, I meditate all the time,

but the stress is high. Everyone's got anxiety, and when everyone has anxiety, it's contagious. And then Alex Jones ends up saying that World War III may be days away, so. Oh, that's good. Yeah, great. Man, I'm glad he was wrong.

Yeah, and also a good thing, most people turn it off by the time Dr. Group gets on, because I think even his dumbass fans get like, this is gonna be boring. I think. Dr. Group, come on. Yeah. Come on, Dr. Group.

Also, I was trying to take a screenshot of the picture of Dr. Group's Skype, because the wall he's in front of is covered in diplomas. And I was like, I wanna. Why? He doesn't have any real diplomas. I wanna research all of them. And so I was gonna take a screenshot

and try and get like, what are the details of this one and this one? But it was too like blurry. I couldn't even zoom in. Yeah, you can just order them. Yeah. Just order them online. No shit.

So that brings us to the end of October 14th, and now we get into October 15th. And this is, I think, one of the most important days in our investigations history. Okay. This day is incredibly crazy. I think, I put it in my notebook, I think this is the day that Alex Jones' brain broke.

I think that he lost it on October 15th, 2015. I might be wrong. I've made a lot of bad predictions. I cop to that. But the show starts, and this is gonna frustrate the shit out of you. And I love it. It's gonna frustrate the shit out of our audience.

But Alex Jones does one of the things he does best, which he professionally teases why he's mad. He doesn't say at all in this next clip why he is fucking freaking out. He is so good at saying nothing for a long time. It's, he is. It's amazing. Watch this professional at fucking work.

Every few months, the past was every few years, but now it's over a few months, a group of stories come together. And with my knowledge and understanding of governmental systems worldwide, but particularly here in the United States. Which is to say, none at all. The tumblers basically click into place.

The safe door opens. So I wanna, I wanna cut here just for a second. Keep in mind, this clip is three and a half minutes long. That can't be possible. He says nothing. That can't be real. If you at any point, while you're listening to this, think you know what he's about to say,

you're probably wrong. Okay. Well, unless your guess is nothing. So it, whenever we talk about Alex Jones being like an amazing broadcaster, this is my only evidence of it. Okay. Because at the end of this,

he even talks about how he's not saying anything. It's fucking amazing. No, he can't do that. It's fucking amazing. All right. So far, we're 24 seconds in. He's said nothing except. Every few months, it used to be every few years.

A group of stories comes out. Right. And I'm a genius. Using my brilliance in, but especially America. That's schizophrenia. Yeah. Yeah, so here we go. Everything has become unlocked.

Here we go. And you can really see what's inside. And a group of stories the last two weeks come together in a confluence. Which ones? That is so important. I am having trouble feeling even worthy to try to describe to you

how absolutely confirming this is and it shakes me to my absolute core. This guy's a fucking pro. Got a lot of long pauses here. In fact, this news is so important that when I saw it this morning before the show and it connected into everything else we already know. About what?

I almost went and to David Knight's office and said, please put on your sports jacket, grab all the news you're researching, you're doing the show. So that I could get with Paul Watson or myself in a word processor. Gotta get with myself.

And pull all these links together, put this together, write an article, put out an emergency alert. And really make a big deal out of it. Because if I'd just come up here at the start of the show and mention some of these stories and tell everybody it's really important and tell everybody please get this information out.

What information? It won't go viral. Why not? It's so important. If I say we've got a big announcement in a couple days and I build it up, which I don't do that. You are. That's exactly what you're doing.

I always say coming up and I'll just tell you right then what the news is, cause I just want to get it out. Then do that. So what I am here trying to do is make a big deal out of this and really get people who are lost in the haze of all the news, myself included. I'm not on some high mountain here. This guy's a fucking pro.

That we can really look at the situation we're in and really see that the worst case scenario analysis that we've come up with and many others have now come up with concurrent breakdowns basically is so horrible. And it confirms our worst, our worst, not fears our worst long-term projections. Cause we're not long-term projecting now. We're in 2015.

Which ones? All of them? Some of them? Your projections about what? I am not. Did you meet the devil? Trying to be dramatic here. This is dramatic.

Fucking fuck you. I'm not trying to fuck off. Fuck off, come on. That's amazing. I'm not trying to be dramatic here. That's so amazing. It is dramatic. That's fucking amazing, man.

That was nothing. That's a gifted broadcaster to emote like that, to be able to be so full of shit about nothing. He said nothing. He said nothing. And he does for another like three minutes after that but he does touch on specific topics after that but it's not what he's talking about.

He starts talking about Agenda 21 but that's not the story that has got him all shook up. Woo woo. You know what I'm saying? I do know. Yeah, he's a... So does he get to it? Six minutes later.

Okay. All right. So did he get in front of it? Did he get with himself and get in front of a word processor? I'm a word processor. I'm assuming no. No, he was on the air the entire time. Has he ever written an article?

Yeah, probably. I mean, I think he wrote a book even. Yeah, but did he? Maybe PJ Dubb wrote that ghost writing. Yeah. But be there as it may, he does get to the story that is like really getting him out of sorts. What is confirmed to all of his long-term projections?

Would you like to try and guess? The worst long-term projections. Okay, it's October 15th, 2015. Correct. It's Fast and Furious 6 came out. That might be right in the timeline. I'm not sure. The basketball season, 2015, just started.

Golden State Warriors, they have no idea what's coming. They have no idea what's coming for them, but they're gonna go on a tear. They're gonna win 73 games. It's gonna be amazing. I would like for you, I know we're having fun. I'd like for you to try and have a serious guess. Wait, was that that year or was that the year before that?

I can't remember. I'd like for a serious guess though, like geopolitically. Okay. Like what do you think could possibly be shaking him to his core like this, that he has to vamp and put his head in his hands and pretend that he can't do the show and he's gonna get David Knight to host

so he can get Paul Joseph Watson to write an article about it, because this is gonna go viral. And if I just talk about it on the air, it's not gonna go viral. It turns out that all of the iodine is gone. No, you'd be way more fucked up if that was the case. That's true. Here with Drunk, here's what it is.

And we have Megalomaniacs running the show that hate us the better cleaners. They hate us because we don't commit crime at any rate that's measurable. They hate us because we produce so much wealth. Not true. They hate us because we're strong. They hate us because we're good.

Not true. They hate us because they know that we're not criminals like them. Not true. I told you that they were going to start indicting Republican leadership that was Patriots. They have indicted two of Rand Paul's staffers. They're calling it payments for endorsements.

No, the campaign for liberty, other organizations, that's what they do is they give money to libertarian candidates to build a movement. And the Republican and Democratic parties have circled the wagons against the Tea Party because the Tea Party is taking over the Republican Party. Not a good. We've removed the speaker.

Not really. We're trying to get a good speaker in. That would be like getting a good president in. It's just as important. Paul Ryan. Just as important. Congratulations. This is a quiet, peaceful revolution

trying to take our country back the right way. Nah. And I'm telling you right now, Ron Paul's on next week, but they are trying to find anything to indict. Rand Paul. Ron Paul. Ru Paul.

Governor Abbott. They've already indicted the Texas Attorney General. I told you they got the feds on me. Why do you think Drudge was here? Drudge has been told by Supreme Court Justice and others that it's coming. Clarence Thomas. They've been told.

This is white knuckle time, folks. So how does that grab you, Jordan? So it's because two of Rand Paul's staffers were indicted on bribes? Do you want to know what the truth of that story is? Sure. So the charges stem from the Elder Paul's 2012 presidential campaign,

in which former state Senator Kent Sorenson admitted to receiving $73,000 from Ron Paul's presidential campaign in exchange for switching his endorsement from then-representative Michelle Bachman to Ron Paul. Federal prosecutors alleged that the three individuals who were charged indicted, it's not two, it's three, they attempted to file false reports

with the Federal Elections Commission to cover up payments to Sorenson in exchange for his endorsement to Ron Paul. Benton served as Paul's campaign chairman in 2012, but has maintained his innocence. He went on to work for America's Liberty Political Action Committee, a Rand Paul-aligned super PAC, but took leave from the organization

when the first round of indictments were handed down. So they paid $73,000 to a dude to switch his endorsement. That's really cheap. Also very illegal. It's really cheap. You should hold, if you're gonna do that illegally, you should hold out for more than 73 grand. It's a state senator.

It's not even a senator. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. It might be an influential person in various circles, but you can't get more than that for a state senator. No, that's true. Yeah. That's true.

They fucking committed a crime. Yes, they committed a crime. Yeah, but if they can indict people for committing crimes, if they can indict Rand Paul's people for committing crimes, Dan, they could indict anybody for committing crimes. And they're wrong. Anybody. Rand Paul's aides, not him.

He thinks that it's gonna be a thing where it's like, they're just trying to get him to flip. Or they're like, it's perfectly timed in order to destroy his campaign. But it's just that that's how the court worked. That is one of those things though, where I, there is always a part of my conspiracy theory brain that's like, that has to happen all the time.

That kind of bribery has to happen all the time. We live in Illinois. That bribery happens all the time. I'm sure. But they don't always get caught. Right, right. And just it happening, the courts can't deal with things they don't know about.

You know what I'm saying? No, they can't. If you don't have a charge, a court can't hear the charge. And in this case, these guys got sloppy and clearly Sorenson admitted to receiving the money. He was paid off. Look, he was paid off to admit that he received the money. Oh, the global scam.

He was paid. He was paid $73,001 in order to admit that he took $73,000 in order to take down Rand Paul's aides because everybody knows if you take down Rand Paul's aides, take down Rand Paul. Totally. So then he also talked about the Texas Attorney General who's been indicted.

So that's the, that's the big news. Well, also the Texas Attorney General. The big news is the worst projections of info wars is Rand Paul staffers got taken down for committing crimes. Right. That confirms the worst of their fears. That's what he teased for three minutes saying nothing. And I got to get with Paul Joseph Watson about this.

You just got to get in front of that word processor and write down how these guys committed crimes. And now they're in trouble for it. But the thing is, it's not just about them. It's also about the Texas Attorney General, which he never says by name, because I don't think he knows who is, I don't think he knows his name. His name is Ken Paxton.

And here I'm just going to read, I apologize. This is like four paragraphs or so. So I'm going to get through it, but this is from Texas Monthly. This is an article about why Ken Paxton got in trouble. The case and the federal one involved Mr. Paxton's work in a 2011 promoting and recruiting of investors for a technology company, Serve Energy Incorporated. Federal officials accused Mr. Paxton of encouraging

and pressuring investors to invest in Serve Energy while failing to disclose that he was being compensated by the company. The investors included several of Mr. Paxton's friends and a fellow lawmaker. Court documents filed by the SEC claim that Mr. Paxton raised $840,000 from the investors and received 100,000 shares of stock in return,

but never disclosed his commissions. Mr. Paxton told investigators that he accepted the shares as a gift from the company's founder, but the SEC claimed that the stock was actually a sales commission he failed to disclose. So it becomes a will they won't they, he said, she said sort of thing where it's like, ah, the guy just liked me and I liked his company

and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But unfortunately. It was basically an insider trading thing. Unfortunately, the article goes on. We should note that Paxton was fined by the Texas State Securities Board in 2014 for failing to disclose that he had been paid to solicit investment clients on behalf of a firm

he was paying, who was paying him a commission. Paxton described that as a, quote, administrative oversight and paid $1,000 in a fine, so he's admitted that he's engaged in similar behavior in the past. The SEC also claims after meeting with Serve Energy, Paxton was offered a 10% commission from the company and when that offer was made to him in writing,

Paxton wrote back, quote, I will get to work, scheduling meetings with a number of investors shortly thereafter. The stock issued to Paxton is identified in Serve Energy's own records as, quote, payment for, quote, services, according to the filing. This is the bulk of the case against Paxton, but it's not the entirety of it.

The charge also implicates Paxton in the fraud charges against the former Serve Energy CEO whose last name is MAP, who faces the most dramatic charges of lying to investors by claiming that the company had bulk preorders from Amazon and free scale when they did not. Some of these investors were people who were recruited by Paxton and phrases like, quote, Paxton did nothing to determine whether MAP's claims were true

appear several times throughout the filing. Similar charges against MAP stem from claims that Serve Energy's product, computer servers, were essentially, or were especially energy efficient and cutting edge, which does not appear to have been the case. Paxton is associated with those claims too in the filing, quote, while Paxton possessed no technical expertise and did not know whether any of Serve Energy's claims

were true, he conducted no due diligence to confirm, clarify, or correct Serve Energy's claims. So that's why the Texas- Oh, so he committed fraud. Yeah. That is why the Texas Attorney General is in trouble. Yes, for, for crimeing. He committed crimes.

The way Alex Jones- All of these people that Alex Jones gets really, they all committed the crimes. Yeah, Alex presents that as like, he was at a dinner party and he told people to invest in some and he just, he filled out a paperwork wrong. No, he committed fraud and was getting paid under the table

for bullying people into, bullying is strong, but like really actively recruiting. That's a crime. There's a reason that's a crime. Does this happen, so does this happen on the left? Maybe. Like do we, do we, if we-

Unjustly defend people who are, who have, like with this type of situation, with all of these fucking situations, with the Arpaio situation, with the Clark situation, all of that stuff, it's always, no, they didn't commit crimes. They didn't commit the crimes. Well, I mean-

It's always, it's always a smear campaign. It's always this other thing. No, because there's like Blagojevich and we're like, yeah, fucking lock him up. Yeah. So yeah, he was, he was on the Democratic side. Right, I just- So yeah, no, we, we, we-

Why is it not okay for, for us- We cast aside our weirdos. Blagojevich, every liberal that I know is like, get him out of here. Or fuck on. Anthony Weiner. Yeah, get him the fuck on. Now, maybe Alex Jones exaggerates

a lot of the claims against Anthony Weiner, but he did a lot of fucking terrible stuff and probably should be in prison. Yeah. So no, I think that- I mean, we're- I'm still happy that Martha Stewart went to jail for insider trading.

She seems great, but hey, you committed a crime. I think that a lot of liberals have a very largely even keel about abandoning their own when it's clear they've committed a crime. And you know what I relate it to? I relate it to what happened with smoking as a whole. Like smoking became very distasteful at a certain point. And, you know, it used to be okay to smoke on planes.

And it used to be okay to smoke in everywhere. You could smoke in a hospital. You could smoke- Your doctor was smoking while giving you a pap smear. Right, at a restaurant or whatever. And by degrees, it became a thing where science came out and were like, hey, you shouldn't be doing that there.

It's probably really bad. And everyone's like, yep, got it, got it. Cool, cool. Sorry about that. Sorry about that. We'll just go over here. Oh man, last night, I met a secondhand smoke truther. Oh, Jesus.

Oh yeah, that was pretty great. You met Boehner? He was explaining all this shit, like as the science was wrong, you should still be able to smoke inside bars because it's only .008% I honestly think he might not be too far off from the truth. I think secondhand smoke is a little bit exaggerated.

Oh, absolutely. But at the same time, don't fucking smoke in bars. Exactly. Even as a smoker, I get it's way better. Oh man. But not even close. What I'm saying is smokers are a facsimile for liberals in this case.

That like, we would love to smoke everywhere. I mean, we're smoking in my apartment right now. Right. We would love it, but we realize like, oh, we shouldn't be doing that on a plane. It's contained. Smoke can't get anywhere. It's a tube in the sky.

That's fucked up. All right, fine. Yeah. And we agree to change our behavior accordingly and go along with it. Whereas conservatives, they're not like smokers. They'd be like, no, fuck you. I'm smoking on this plane

because if you don't allow me to smoke on this plane, eventually I won't be able to smoke. I think that there is that. And that's why people on the right win all the time. Right. They just vociferously defend people who are clearly guilty of crimes. And Alex, like it goes back to the confederate flag

on trucks thing we were talking about earlier. If Alex had read any articles other than headlines, he'd know this stuff. He would know that they're like, oh no, this Sorenson admitted to taking a payoff to change his endorsement. That's not lobbying. No, that's a payoff.

No, that's a bribe. Yeah, that's not okay. I suppose the closest analog is probably how people treated Cosby. Or where it's like, okay, sure, 20 women came out. Okay, sure, 40 women came out. Okay, at a certain point, even the most, well, although there are still people

who says Cosby didn't do it. But it's like, Cosby did that shit. Sure. Or the same way with Louis CK. Louis CK definitely is a, should be, he's committed sexual assault many, many times. Boy, it looks that way. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he did it. Yeah. He did it. Well, I mean, I think that this is different though, because with Cosby and with Louis CK, there are long, was long histories of really positive experiences

that you've had because of them. Like I love Louis CK back in like the early 90s, I'm sorry, late 90s, early 2000s. Like I thought he was amazing. That even that before he shifted and became the Louis CK that everyone knows today, like the, I've got a peach, look at me. Yeah.

Like even those fucking jokes were awesome. Have you ever seen a stranger on the street again? Yeah. Like God is running out of extras in your life? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Him on Dr. Katz, he's amazing. Oh, so good on Dr. Katz. But like there are those things

that are very difficult to, you feel like you have to give up on them because you see the person as like who they actually are. Yeah. And that's different than just automatically defending your own blindly. I understand the struggle of like, man, this guy's art doesn't match up

with who he is actually as a person. That's fucked up. Shit. Right. And that's a disappointment. Well, this is Alex just being like, if they take any of our team, they're taking us all. And that's more cowardly.

It is a circle the wagons for any and every possible reason. It's just, how do you not? And that's why you can blindly look past everything Joe Arpaio did. And that's why these guys keep showing up is because if you defend every single one of these guys, that just makes it more likely that more of these guys are going to be there.

Yeah. Like if you fucking pardon Joe Arpaio, there's gonna be more Joe Arpaio's. Yeah. Like that's the real situation. Well, and the flip side of it too, is like there is a power dynamic to it also. And then Alex Jones wouldn't give a shit

if like a couple of Ted Cruz's aides got indicted or something like that. Even though at this point in 2015, he supports Ted Cruz. You think so? Yeah, I don't think so. I think it's because it's Ron Paul. Like as he supports Ted Cruz mostly, but he loves Rand Paul.

And Rand Paul to him is like this image of pure libertarian essence. Right. And his fear- Otherwise known as stupid. Nonsense. Yeah. His fear is that they're coming after

these Tea Party libertarian types. And because it's the perfect storm of, oh, those people did commit a crime, we're gonna indict them. He has to support. In the same way that like individually, even the white supremacists don't care if one of theirs gets arrested.

They did just send out warrants for one of the guys who beat up. Sweet. Yeah. He was in Ohio. Great. A guy from Ohio went all the way to Charlottesville to be a monster.

He turns out all of them were from out of town. Yeah, of course. But like that guy, I can't even remember his name, the Nazi who cried and everyone clowned on him as a former comic, that dude, Chris, whatever. McAntle or McAntrall or whatever. They don't care. They're not gonna break him out of prison.

No one's supporting him. That's true. It turns out that when you're a low rung on this terrible machine, you're on your fucking own. Unless you become important to Alex Jones' machine or whatever. I mean, you saw what he did to Jason Kessler, the guy who organized the Unite the Right thing.

He immediately pretended, oh, you're a fed. Like he just turned on him because he has no juice. He has no influence. That was in an unreleased episode. Was it? Yeah. Oh. We mentioned it in passing, but we didn't talk about that.

So I mean, like, yeah, you've got to, even the, we support all of our own. We don't really care about the bottom. Right. We support all of our own to a certain extent. Right. Or if you're Trump, you don't really care about anybody who's not you.

Or who's support, you only care about the people who have supported you in Berther hoaxes. Yeah, probably. Or have lied to you about Dennis Montgomery having evidence that Obama spied on you. People are so fucking stupid. Anyway, we got some more clips to get through before we close this thing down.

Okay. But this next clip, Alex is in a very weird headspace because of these indictments that have come down. And he says this, which thematically follows so many of the other things we've talked about on this episode and the last like five episodes or so, Russia, but what he's saying is like, it's even next level stuff.

And I think it's because he's in such a fucked up headspace. Russia was captured by the Anglo-American establishment through the Bolshevik disease. And is halfway pulled itself away from the entity. And so is being besieged by economic warfare and destabilization foundations within. But Russia still is strong man mafia corruption, but it's angelic compared to the eugenicist.

The Russians are not putting fluoride in their water and cancer viruses in their vaccine for their public. And when they bring down the Russians, there'll be nothing else standing against them. Except the American people. And that's why we're under attack. And the globalist secret weapon is the radical Muslims. They're going to turn them loose everywhere.

That makes sense. Yeah. That's what you would do if you were a globalist. You would turn loose radical Muslims everywhere. Like you're driving around with a van and you're just like, get out, come on, yeah. Go do, go, go do the, yeah. Go on, get.

Yeah, but like what he's saying there, if you really want to sum up that clip entirely, Russia is the last line of defense. And the American people. Yeah. Secondarily. Yeah. Russia is important. But you understand.

Do Russians get vaccines? Do you understand that? Everybody gets vaccines. Do you understand that in that clip? I mean, not everybody. In that clip. Unfortunately. He's betraying that he believes

that Russia is better and stronger than the American people. Absolutely. That once the globalists take out Russia, they'll just walk right over us. Well, cause we are the globalists. Well, not the American public. No, no, that's true.

We're the last line of defense. Well, no, it's Russia, because we couldn't possibly stand up against them. That's what Alex believes. He loves Russia. He does love Russia. It's fucked up. Can we get, can we get him to go there?

Yeah, I'd love it. Can't we just get him to move? Yeah, especially if it was in the North, send him to Siberia. That's what I'm saying. I got it. I got it, buddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

I'm going to skip this next clip because it's not really important that we're already at 240, but. Why would you, why would you love Russia so much? But I like, imagine, imagine him moving there. Well, just for a second, imagine him moving to Russia. Of course he would never do that.

No, probably not. Ever. No. He wants to live in Austin. Yeah. Do you know why? Cause Austin's great. Cause Austin's fucking great.

Yeah. Like a lot of America is. Yeah. Like a lot of Russia liberal America. Yeah, exactly. Right? Yeah. I don't know.

He's a occupied Texas. He's a fucking idiot. But if you want to think about Russia, hold on to it for a little bit. Okay. Cause we're going to get back into it. The next clip that I'm going to skip is just him fake and crying.

He tries to cry and can't. He tries to do the fake crying. And it doesn't not, it doesn't work. So eventually he ends up screaming. He just bales. No, he just screams. Okay. As opposed to that.

He just fakes mad. But unfortunately that clip is like three minutes long. And I'm like, fuck it. It's not worth it. I don't have any real emotions. So also on this episode, Joe Biggs has been sent out to a Hillary Clinton rally. And I believe that this is another one

of the really important things in the projection and trajectory of Alex Jones going to team Trump. He is out there to like literally the goal is to cause a scene. Right. His whole goal, his whole objective is to stir shit. Just stir the pot.

Yeah. That's what Joe Biggs does. That's why you send Joe Biggs out places. But it hasn't really been that way up till this point. Because the time that he went out to a Trump rally and showed off his Hillary for prison shirt, that's not really stirring shit up. That's pandering. He's now started to go out to,

now he's at a Hillary Clinton rally where he's going to unveil his Hillary for prison shirt. He's going out specifically to troll in real life as an advertising tool. And I believe that this is where the soy bombing begins. And Alex starts to see that it is an incredibly effective marketing tool. And that's why you start to get people screaming.

Bill Clinton is a rapist on television. And all this shit that Alex ends up doing to quote unquote troll the media when what he's really doing is buzz marketing. And I think that this episode on October 15th, not only has the breakdown of Alex being like, it's confirmed. They're coming for the Patriots because these Rand Paul staffers

legitimately committed a crime and they're going for it. But also the first time that Alex will inevitably see a spike in sales because Joe Biggs went and trolled a liberal rally. I think that those two things are like foundational in his shift. Money. This clip is Joe Biggs out at the rally

expressing his intent. For we have been able to basically weasel our way into the Hillary Clinton event. And right now, as you can see, I have on my Hillary t-shirt and I'm standing in front of this stalling like photo of Hillary Clinton. It's very eerie.

I'm literally deep in the lines then right now. So I've got my Hillary for prison t-shirt on under here. I'm going to release that later once she comes out and speaks and scream Hillary for prison and take this shirt off and then start screaming Hillary for prison. We'll see what happens. Well, Joe, it's key you do this.

I'm sure I think it's super key that you just go make an asshole out of yourself. Well, because we need the sales. Yeah. Because the money bomb was great, but we're into fiscal year 2016 now. Now it's time to start. Yeah, we gotta start ramping up for the 2017 money bomb.

And maybe our narrative of economic collapse coming is not happening. Maybe people are starting to not be scared as much by these things. We've got to shift our strategy towards buzz marketing. And that's what they're doing. It's very see-through. Joe Biggs is out at this rally

and I've cut out all of it. I don't have any clips of it, but he's just getting owned like in debates. He keeps trying to have debates with people and it's so funny because Alex is back in the studio being like, these people are so stupid. And then the actual video that he's talking over is people making great points

and Joe Biggs having no real argument and then saying Benghazi. Right. Something like that. Right, right, right. And then Alex would be back in the studio. He's like, push on Benghazi, push, push. It's like he's jacking off in studio.

To Joe Biggs losing an argument. It's really bizarre. That is exactly why these people are so frustrating and stupid. Because they lose and they don't realize it. Is that if he wanted to do that, if you're like, okay, I am going to go start shit and start debates with people, prep.

That'd be great. But that's the thing. They think that. Come there with an idea of what you're gonna do. Instead of this half-assed, I know I'm gonna win because I'm loud and dumb. But they think they have researched. That's the problem.

But they're dumb. Right. It's a pure hatred for anybody who knows what they're fucking talking about. But it's the same thing that I run into when I talk to people who are, quote, into conspiracy theories and have just gotten high and watched YouTube videos.

It's the same thing with Joe Biggs. He's the equivalent, intellectually, politically, of someone who's gotten high and watched YouTube videos and wants to talk to you about the, what happened on Jekyll Island? That's when they brought together the central bank. Oh, what about the CFR? What about the CFR?

What about them? What about them? What about the council on foreign relations? What about Bill de Berg? Like, all right. What about them? Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

What is it? Is it the Krueger effect or whatever it is? Where you're too dumb to know what you're too dumb about. Yeah, and if you're smart, you think you're dumber than you are. Exactly. Yeah. But there are a couple of people who do admirably

in debates against him. They're thrown off by the fact that he keeps clearly having to listen to Alex and his earpiece and not really engage with the flow of conversation. But they're there for a little bit. And then we go back into studio where Alex Jones has an interview with a gentleman by the name of Paul Craig Roberts.

He's a fairly regular guest on the show. He is a guy who's a survival type of guy. Oh, great. He's into prepping and what have you. Okay. He's also a dick. I think now might be a good time to listen to somebody who's into doomsday prepping.

He would not like to help you because you're a dumb libtard cuck. Right, but I think the doomsday is coming for all of us. So I think it's important to be prepared. I mean, I guess you would probably just tell you to get guns and water and gold. There we go. But now that I have that information, Dan,

I can do that. This guy is a huge dick. And I think that one of the signs of hope is the two speeches that Obama and Putin gave at the end on the 28th of September, because the whole world saw that Obama was a stooge, a liar, a deceiver, and that Putin was a statesman who told the truth and stood up.

Crazy. How can you believe that? It's crazy. How can you actually believe that? You can't possibly really believe that. You can if you really hate the idea of a black president. But that's insane. That doesn't make any sense at all.

Yeah. That did not, oh, well, I mean, if that's why you can have a psych warfare guest on you and have no idea that they're doing that. Yeah. Like Putin is always lying. Yep. All he does.

That was his job 30 years ago. That's all he does. Everybody knows that. Everybody in the world knows that. How can you possibly believe that it's not the truth? I mean, I get it if you are a Russian citizen and all you get is Russian-owned media all day, every day. But I mean, even fucking North Koreans, half of them

are like, Kim, he didn't. We're going along with this not to die. Yeah, he didn't really do any of that shit. Don't worry about it. But he totally did. He totally did. I mean, if you asked me about it, but he didn't really know.

Great leader. I'm crying about your dad's death. Oh, he's amazing. He's amazing. He's got. But if you're here, come on. Come the fuck on. Step outside and look at this shit,

and there's no possible way you can be like, oh, Putin is a statesman. It gets worse. Where it's like, Putin's like Reagan saying to us, stop being tyrants, and saying, look what you've got in the Middle East, funding ISIS and al-Qaeda, shame on you, just it's like the emperor's new clothes. Putin really is being a statesman.

What do you expect them to do now to try to counter that? I think to see how he would try to assassinate him. Okay. I think Putin's in substantial danger of assassination. That's what I think. And I hope he stops walking around the streets unprotected. And not as an American president can do that. Only Putin.

Well, he's not a coward. That's for sure. Well, I mean, other people there don't want to kill him. Oh, that ain't true. That's like, that ain't true, my friend. That's like the argument that Trump had when he went to Saudi Arabia. It's like no protests there.

Yeah. Or Wilbur Ross said that, I believe. Right. But yeah, it's like, they don't want to kill him. A lot of people do want him out of power, and then they get killed. That's what happens. Yeah.

That seems to happen repeatedly. Or they get thrown in weird prisons. You know, they maybe don't get killed. They just get thrown in a hole somewhere. Yeah. How many diplomats all around the world has Putin managed to kill at this point? It's like 70 or 80?

Some ridiculous, yeah. So the idea that they pretend that they- Oh, plenty of people want to kill Putin. The problem is he's way better at them. He's way better at them than they are. Because he has an evolved version of the KGP. Yeah, exactly. The KGP that he's operating.

This is pathetic. And it's naked in terms of how clear it is that this is a show that is demonstrating outright, unequivocal support for Putin and Russia. And anti-American sentiment. Yes. And he has not endorsed Trump. This predates all of that.

This is where his heart is. Yeah. That Putin is awesome. And Russia is the last line of defense. That's fucked up. That is fucked up. That's profoundly fucked up. And way worse than anything I thought

that we would uncover just by listening to his show. It's not like we're doing any sleuthing. I know. We're just using his words. He's just saying this shit. Yeah. He just knows that no one's paying attention or they already believe the globalist narrative.

Or the people who are paying attention aren't paying attention to this shit. Right. Right. They're waiting for him to take his shirt off. Or maybe because he. In the same way we're all waiting for Putin to take his shirt off.

Or maybe it's because he demonizes the mainstream media so much. People are like, oh, what is the real media? Oh, it's RT. It's Sadonia. It's these Russian media outlets that he points to. And maybe they believe the narratives. And they can't go to Al Jazeera or something like that.

There's barcodes. Yeah. Barcodes. They'll fucking get in your brain. Oh, yeah. Go listen to the Dennis Montgomery episode. Jesus. So at this point, they take, Paul Craig Roberts is gone.

And they go back to Joe Biggs at the Hillary Clinton rally because Hillary has started her speech. And Alex wants to comment on it a little bit. Wants to get a little sassy. And this is stupid. I gotta tell you Phil and I fell in love with South Texas. We had a lot of green enchiladas at these days. Don't vote for Monica's boyfriend's wife.

What they do is they give them an anthropology briefing. Hit Shinerbot, green enchiladas. South Texas, this is CIA anthropology. Every area she goes to, she says the politics. Or you can Google. Alex is describing what road hacks do as CIA anthropology. We as comedians have been in green rooms with touring hacks who have been like, what's the thing that people

make fun of around here? That happens all the time. What's the city that your city doesn't like? Exactly. What's the small town? What's the one that everybody, oh, it's the Shelby Villa or whatever it is. Yeah, it's the thing where it's like, how do I mad libs a joke

into getting a rise out of the audience? And of course, fucking politicians pander to wherever they are. Also, I don't believe, I mean, it's lame. Yeah, you know, it's dumb the same way I hate the road hack doing it. I don't like Hillary name checking green enchiladas, but fucking wine.

But here's the deal. You hate it in terms of performance because you hate the road hack in terms of like, ah, this is fake performance. And you hate that in Hillary Clinton as well. But that doesn't mean that she's being dishonest. She's just not a great dynamic performer on stage and has to fall back on those tricks. In the same way that a comedian should evolve to the point

where they're able to on stage ask, hey, what are you guys not like and be able to integrate it simply into their crowd work, road hacks can't. And they just want to be able to pretend that they know this stuff already. Also, pre-planned crowd work is the worst crowd work. And that's what that is. Yeah, exactly.

And Hillary maybe has had Sheiner Bach in her life. It's possible. Also, I've had Sheiner Bach. It's fine. It's all right. It's fine. It's a beer. It's not bad.

Yeah. You shouldn't be proud of it. It's fine. I know local pride. So this next. Looks like we're not going to South Texas anytime soon. I go visit my parents in Austin and drink some Sheiner Bach. I tell them how much I love the Sheiner Bach.

And they're like, you're a great son. You should have a green enchilada. You're like, I've already had one. So in this next clip, Alex Jones is still doing some mystery science theater over the Hillary Clinton speech. But he takes the opportunity to break out some impressions. Oh, no. Some of these might be offensive.

She's all in an apolitics. Green enchiladas, the valley. She lets you throw if she could. And I've listened as people shared their stories, their worries, their dreams. Their worries, their dreams. I'm going to give you your dreams. I'm going to give you your dreams.

I know your area. Green enchiladas, I'm your friend. I'm your friend. Obamacare, it's free. Two plus two equals five. Mothers and grandmothers were all grandmothers. Each group, grandmothers, mothers, Vikings, Hispanics, all of you, black people, women, ooh, ooh.

You're all getting mentioned. Ooh, ooh, ooh. It's just, I mean, I'd get up there and give them a real speech. I wouldn't go, I know your Sheiner Bach and your green enchiladas. We saw you on stage. She goes, yes, we're playing here today. I don't know gang, don't break them. You think I'm joking?

And then when she goes to LA to speak to a spanish group, she goes, hello, good to see you today. I mean, this is the condescension of how dumb she thinks people are. Let's go back and listen to her in her monotone voice. I want to say a couple things. First, him arguing that she has a monotone voice while she is the master of impressions,

based on what he's saying. If she can pull off different impressions, she's not monotone. Second, she doesn't do that. Third, those impressions are racist as fuck. Yeah. Also, if you're doing a racist impression of a Hispanic person, he went hard Asian.

Yeah. Look, in terms of racist impressions, that's a racist Asian impression. Oh, it's so good to see you. That's that hack version of an impression. What is he doing? I don't know. And then in the last part, he says exactly what he's doing

and then just like, ah. He's infuriating. She thinks people are so dumb as to buy that. Wait, do you mean you just did a thing? Yeah. That she doesn't do. It's becoming really tired for us to argue that he's projecting, but boy, does he do that a lot.

I know, right? Yeah. So we have one more clip. Whatever it is they say you're doing is what they're doing. Or what you're doing. Whatever we're doing is what they say you're doing, but what they're saying they're doing

is actually what we're doing. But what we're doing is what they're doing. Will Shakespeare. So we got one more clip. And it's where we're gonna end October 15th. This whole investigation has been about when does Alex Jones. I keep forgetting that.

Support Donald Trump. I feel like all of our investigation has actually been why does he love Russia so much? No, it's turned into that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That was not the intention. No.

It's very weird. Didn't know that was the thing. And a lot of the investigation has turned into, wow, this guy rewrites history a lot. Yeah. There's a ton of, there's a ton. Well, you have to whenever you predicted the different stuff happening and that it didn't happen.

So you're like, yeah, but what I predicted was what happened. It actually happened. You just don't know that it happened. Yeah. Because you're brainwashed. You're not awake. So we check in here. Alex Jones has a conversation with Joe Biggs

about where we stand on the candidates. And let's see if any change has happened. Here we go. They don't really look at the facts. They don't actually go in. This is a whole country that's just obsessed with being progressive and trendy and cool. You know, we just had the last guy.

He was black the first. So now automatically we have to have the first female president. And if not, we're misogynists. We're sexist and racist, you know. And it's that whole same thing that they keep serving to us every day. Joe Biggs, who are you really liking? I mean, obviously, I like what Trump says.

I like the fact he's aggressive. I don't know about trust is history. But now they're moving to basically go after Rand Paul and Ron Paul in guiding their former chief of staff for nothing, literally nothing. I mean, this is getting crazy. I mean, except for the brides. Well, it shows you they're scared of the Pauls, obviously.

I mean, these are people who go out and speak the truth. You know, there are some things that Rand Paul does that I quite, you know, I don't really agree with. But there's more things that he does do that I do go with. You know, Donald Trump, like we've said before, he says a lot of great things. But at the same time, he doesn't offer a lot of solutions. It's still early in the race.

I'm still hoping for him to come out and kind of give me some solutions to these problems if he's bringing it to the table. You know, building a wall simply will not fix this immigration problem. We've been to the border before. We've shown how wide open it is. And even if there is a fence there,

in places in Arizona or Texas that have fences, people say, get over it. They go under it. They figure out a way to pay somebody to just rock in the back of the trunk. We need to do something more than just building a wall. And that's just going to be a big waste of money. But you know, like I said, it's early.

He's got time to come out with some other things. You know, I think on the Democrat side, really doesn't fit over there. I think he should have been in the GOP race. He doesn't really seem to have the qualities of the other candidates that were running for the, you know, Democratic contenders. So who knows, like I said, it's still early.

We'll see what happens. But at this point in time, what I do know 100% is that this woman does not belong in there. She does not belong in the White House. She does not belong as our president. It's disgusting to see this many people show up in support of this woman, knowing that she's going into this,

with so many lies on the table, you know. Duh. This is so frustrating. For two reasons. One, that you shouted that Joe Biggs was making a lot of sense until the end. Yeah, then it got fucked up. Yeah, but I mean, it does really bring home

that everyone is just anti-Hillary. They're not really, they don't have any foundation of like what they're for as much as what they're against. So there is that, and I think he crystallized that point. But the idea that Trump is saying a bunch of bullshit that sounds good, but there's no solutions. I mean, that's very reasonable. That's a nuanced look at Trump.

And Joe Biggs is way smarter than Alex. At the same time, this show is about Alex Jones. And it is unspeakably frustrating that he hasn't changed at all in terms of Trump. It's still, I like what he's saying. Don't know if I can trust him. I mean, we're gonna have to push the fast forward button here.

I'm trying. I know, this is out of control. Well, the thing is, I'm trying, but then at the same time, like every few days, something important happens. Like Drudge shows up, or in this episode, Alex has the Confederate flag narrative, plus the Ron Paul aides, Rand Paul aides getting taken down

and like, this is the end of conservative. There's too much that ends up happening that- Every few years. Every few months. It used to be every few years. Something so crazy happens. You can just see inside the box that normally you can't see into.

Every few months now, it happens. Every few days it happens on his show. It is crazy. It blows my mind. Dan, I don't even feel like we're worthy enough. Oh boy. To broadcast what it is that we're looking for. And this happens every few, boy,

I mean, we record every couple of days. Every couple of days, we record this podcast. Sometimes, something so big happens. Something Joe big happens. I don't know how long I can do that for. I was gonna see if he could go three minutes. I couldn't. I was boring myself so much.

How does he pull that off? He's got skills. Also, he allows long gaps. That's true. So that helps. But like, I mean, we know, we get it. He loves Russia. He loves Russia.

That's the end of this investigation, really. So it is going to come down to marching orders from Russia. Well, maybe not. Not necessarily direct orders, but once Russia goes, we're all in for Trump. I think it's gonna be a combination of that and the various people who, like I think my initial prediction is still half right,

but I didn't predict the Russia stuff. I think there's the Russia stuff. And then he's being lied to. I think we saw earlier, Steve Pachanik is gonna show up on the show within the next few days. Roger Stone is only like, I think a month away from showing up probably. Really?

He has to be. Trump's on the show in December. It's late October. Oh yeah, we're getting down to it. Yeah, there's no way he doesn't show up within a month or so. So even if he does. I think there's just these people lying to him

and him taking in lies from state media in Russia that he's like, oh, it's counter to CNN. So it must be true. That's, I think that's it. I mean, we're gonna keep going because like I said, our predictions have been wrong repeatedly. But I don't see how that's not the picture

that's taking shape. It seems like it. Yeah. But even then, is it the full-throated 1776 2.0? Again. It doesn't happen right away, right? There isn't that turn. It might.

It could. It might be a fake love at first sight kind of thing. You know, you've had your friends. I never saw the, I never saw the actual interview that he did with Alex Jones, that the current and fucking, That guy. That guy.

I never saw the interview that he did with Alex. I can't imagine it was already that full like, you're the goddamn hero of this fucking world. It wasn't that then, was it? I think it has to be. I don't know because I don't know. I didn't listen to the shows around it. Uh-huh.

But I think it has to be just based on the psychology of Trump. I don't think that he would have appeared on Alex's show. If he didn't know he was gonna get a giant jerk off. Just put it in Game of Thrones term if you didn't bend the knee. Yeah. Like I think that there has to be that transformation

before Trump would give him the time of day. And Trump bended the knee a little bit when he was on in the sense that he said, your reputation is amazing. Yeah. We're gonna be talking about the future. Yeah, but he was just doing Trump speak, which is lies upon lies.

But I still think he can constrain himself a little bit, especially when it comes to compliments. Like I think he always throws superlatives and flowery language on negatives. But when he's complimenting somebody, I think he is probably much more constrained because that reflects poorly on him if he's complimented someone who's,

you know, not worthy of a compliment. I don't know. I think it's more he just doesn't have a very large vocabulary when it comes to nice things. Yeah, that's probably true. But be that as it may, it like this is supremely frustrating as a job for me because I want to see real change.

I want the narrative to progress. And I don't, I guess what the lesson is for me is I thought the narrative of the investigation was why did Alex Jones support Trump? And it turns out the investigation narrative really is holy shit, he loves Putin and of course he support Trump. Right. You know, like it's becoming very different

than what we set out for. I know we've commented on that in the past, but like it can't be stated enough. Like this is really weird. This is fucked up. Super weird. We have RT on Alex Jones' show. And guess what?

On our next episode, it's gonna get even weirder. Oh God, damn it. What are you doing? On our next episode, we cover the episode that includes the classic tap water is a gay bomb. Oh, okay. There we go. I want to tease that.

That comes up in the next episode. So get ready for that. Nice tease. Yeah. Well done. We will also be teasing a live show that's September 9th. We should have said that three hours ago. Totally.

We suck. We're bad at promoting them. Yeah, 999 Herman Cain style. We're gonna be at North Bar here in Chicago, Illinois. It's over on North Avenue. And it's at it. Yep. No cover, I believe.

I haven't worked out all the details, but I don't want to charge a cover. We've worked out generally no details. There'll be drink specials. We're gonna have a great time. Be some stand up our podcast that won't go three hours. A contractually. Yeah.

It'll be a regular show, maybe an hour and a half or so. Dance party afterwards. Jordan wants to do the 9-11 episode. I say no. Yeah. I immediately rethought that. We will see what happens. I was like, wait a second.

Why would we do the greatest national tragedy in a long time? You know what might be fun to do the 9-10 episode. Oh, see what the world was like. Yeah. He just gets on a plane with no security. I don't know. That might be, we'll talk about it off air.

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What's that? I've just gotten a bunch of responses from people in Europe. On our last episode, I mentioned that check in if your country likes Trump. And I've gotten responses from five countries in Europe. And all of them are uniformly we don't like him. And also I'm getting a real strong sense of most people

here don't really care about your politics. And the ones who do that like Trump, we think are crazy. Yeah. So that makes sense. That sounds about right. I relate to that. Yeah. I think we're all on that tip.

Yeah. But thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it, guys. Absolutely. Beyond that. Do we have anything like, is there, so I don't know. Do we, like how do we get out of this? Like we've just been recording for a long time.

We could say Dasvedanya. Do we just like, do we just cut? Like how do we end this show? I don't know. I honestly have not been listening to you for the last 30 seconds. OK. Because of all I'm thinking about in my head.

And this is not, I know we're doing the bit. But apparently we're not doing the bit, Dan. Apparently we're not doing the bit now. This isn't part of the bit. I've legitimately recognized in my head that we're trying to do the bit. And all I can think about is John Rappaport doing that Russian dance where they squat down

and kick their legs out. All I can do is think about that. It's a really funny visual with his big gray beard. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, just doing the kicks. It's really great. All right. That's the, legitimately that image of John Rappaport

is the polar opposite of actual John Rappaport, who is terrible. Yeah. I don't know. Do you have any words for him? I would just like to say from all of us here at Knowledge Fight, go fuck yourself, John Rappaport. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a person of color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.