Knowledge Fight - #785: March 4, 2023

Episode Date: March 13, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan return to the studio to check in on something they missed while taking a little breaky: the groundbreaking interview Alex had with Roseanne Barr.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George. Knowledge fight. Need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas. You're on the earth. Thanks for holding me. Hello Alex. I'm Mr. Penn Collin. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight dot com. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan. Jordan. I have a quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today? Well my bright spot today Jordan is

uncharacteristically. I have since our live shows actually taken a bit of time off. I decided it was about time to just actually do what everyone keeps telling me to do. Right. What the fuck. I'll go ahead and take some time off. It's your five year anniversary since the last time you took time off. Brutal. But so what I've been doing for most of the week is playing Far Cry. Hell yeah. And man. Oh man. I am not a first person shooter guy. I never liked like a doom. No halo. No that not your not your jam. I find guns to not be all that appealing even though like really from a structural standpoint if you have like a magic wand or something same difference yeah basic in the video game it is just a projectile firing a projectile regardless of its firing

object is firing a projectile but somehow the aesthetics of the guns gun games never really appealed to me and I don't really like quit like really fast violence and stuff yeah is overwhelming to me and I think I had slotted most first person shooter kind of games into the like those games that almost fetishistically recreate actual battles yeah yeah yeah like a like call of duty you're in you're on norm but Neil and you're like what I don't this isn't where I want to be I don't know why I'm here man yeah and a lot of that felt a little bit like not up my alley just felt weird I never really thought there would be much I would enjoy about like recreating battles of history and stuff sure sure sure sure but you know Jean Carlo Esposito from breaking

bed is the villain in the sixth one and so that got me to be like give this a try whatever it was like heavily discounted on the PlayStation Plus sure sure and so I gave it a try and holy shit the sixth one is nuts and so I fell deep into that hole and then I saw that the fifth one is about trying to do battle against a cult that has taken over a small area in Montana yeah that sounds familiar and I'm like wow this is all right I mean I but the word apropos comes to mind yeah and it was free yeah on PlayStation Plus so I'll try this too that's the same as I've been jumping around in these games and it's a lot of fun it's a bunch of nonsense and I don't know you get to have animal friends and you do little missions and you're you know yeah there's a lot

of violence and I don't know it's I don't know it's weird I'm not desensitized to it or anything I also don't care right I mean there's also almost 40 so maybe that's fair that's fair I think I think there's something about like uh the way that your mirror neurons fire and you empathize with somebody who is holding a gun that you could conceivably hold in your daily life that gives you more of a sense of immediacy and reality to it as opposed to when you when you like transpose those very same concepts into a place that can't hurt you into a sandbox of safety then you're like oh it's fun to play around with guns you know I guess I guess and I think that the story overwhelms the action in some ways and I think

that's very good yeah and I think that that kind of helps yeah whereas I think I think the way that I had pictured a lot of those like modern warfare and call the duty type stuff it's like the action is all there is yeah you know yeah and maybe that's uh wrong of me to assume because I don't know I've never played them right just appears that way to me sure whereas the immersion of like in this uh in the sixth one you're fighting uh some guerrilla warfare against a oppressive regime and the fifth one you're fighting this cult that is taken over and is real weird so like you know there there is stuff that you can really get absorbed in yeah and the animal friends I mean and that's another that's another situation you know you transpose that over there the thing is

the story now they have to make up the whole story you know like with a call of duty they can be like hey you're fighting in Vietnam and you assume all the shit that comes from fighting they don't need to tell you about that they're like you're like fuck my grandfather is there in this game he's right next to me you know is it possible in those games to go a wall I have no idea can you desert can you be a conscientious objector can you absolutely yes 100 percent it's just a simulator of working in a national park you've got a foot you've got a bone spare so you get stationed very far away from any action yeah anyway so I've been doing a lot of that and it's a lot of fun animal friends yeah animal friends are great uh my bright spot Dan is uh I mean largely baseball

sure it's returning yeah but in specific it is the world baseball classic Dan that is essentially the world cup but for baseball okay now in the world cup all countries around the world they're really good at football because that's what they play you know yeah in the world cup and baseball right now there's three good teams yeah it's limited it's very limited there's 20 total teams though okay so what's fun about it is uh the USA and Japan and the Dominican Republic have essentially between the three teams a thousand hall of famers on the teams right and everybody else has everybody else in the minor leagues okay and it is fucking fantastic to watch them play each other because they're because everything is tense you know there's mistakes yeah people

are bunting and shit there's all the ground once ground ball took a bad hop that doesn't matter that's never mattered in a professional baseball game but here it's important it's watching it's a little bit like watching the little league world series it's it's uh it feels to me like how i remember maybe this isn't accurate at all but like uh basketball in the olympics yeah back in the day yeah yeah wherever like everyone there were not many good teams wasn't really a basketball world back then yeah it was more it was more of a michael jordan world that is that is pretty exciting though yeah yeah it's great so you know what i'd recommend you do go watch a little league game because it sounds like you would enjoy the hell out of it but but what's also great about it is that

watching the the best teams is going to be on the japanese team you have i don't know if you heard about him yeah you got show aotani yeah right now here's the great part about the japanese baseball team show aotani is neither the greatest hitter nor the greatest pitcher on their team wow he's a close second for both which again makes him the greatest baseball player ever to live right but they've got a 20 year old pitcher named sasaki he throws 101 on the daily damn doesn't even try just throwing 101 left and right get out of bed just 101 oh he's walking out and he accidentally throws 101 101 yep then they've got a hitter who is maybe the he's projected to probably be the best hitter in the major leagues in the next five years or whatever it's crazy it's crazy so

they your pick no oh then on the usa you've got trout right you've got fucking nolan aeronado they're pitching staff is garbage i thought you're gonna say nolyn ryan no no no he's not back you might be uh but yeah you've got you've got the best you got mookie bets you've got three former mvps you've got a multiple mvp you know like that whole thing price whatever his name is uh brice harper no i he's injured he's not coming back until the second half of the season i think what about my boy johnny daemon uh johnny daemon he's been actually in the forest missing for the past 15 years just trying to go up with names i remember from when i played fancy baseball yeah anyways and then the dominican republic out of this world pitching staff sandy all can

terrors the reigning cy young winner it's amazing it's going to be incredible are all are those three teams at least in different divisions yeah yeah okay they won't meet until the end every so what's fun now is we're watching a bunch of bad teams play baseball for their country so it's so intense they care so much and then they're all gonna lose and then we're gonna watch the usa and japan and the dominican republic fight each other and that's going to be incredible baseball well i'm excited for you yeah it's great i hope uh i hope it's a blast it's gonna i hope i actually kind of hope that there's like some kind of a cinderella story oh total that's the fun yeah yeah like us gets unseated by i'll tell you this chili chinese Taipei all right they just defeated the

netherlands which is a huge upset on account of them being chinese Taipei and netherlands has been in the world baseball classic for for years and stuff so they're they're really just finding their footsteps on playing baseball at all they came out one if they make it out of their group with japan fucking incredible you'll see the world i mean occasionally be like whoa that'll be it i imagine i'll see nothing yeah exactly yeah but that is very exciting yes so jordan today we have an episode to go over yes and on account of our live episodes on my week off we've had a little bit of time where we have not seen what's been going on with alex uh and in that intervening time something very big happened oh no do you know what i'm talking about no no idea a big

interview a big interview with for alex yeah no that well i mean the idea is i don't know what's going on i understand that but this might be something that you would not have been able to avoid okay well i avoided it like a hero well congratulations thank you i don't know if i should spoil this for you up front or let it happen in the episode uh i assume here's what it'll be fun i assume plenty of people listening already know everyone everyone so it'll be fun to relive finding out all right fair enough we'll get down to business on that but before we do jordan let's say hello to some new walks it's a great idea so first hundreds of hours in and i still haven't figured out what alex thinks actuary means uh and then this is attributed

to tini the cat thank you so much you are now a policy walk i'm a policy walk thank you very much actuary is a term that alex throws out whenever he needs to lie about something that involves statistics yeah and uh a vague future prediction i think he means spreadsheet um or soothsayer oh that could be uh spreadsheet but with no with a spreadsheet yeah uh next hey brice i like you and i love you and could you fill up my water bottle for me thank you so much you're now a walk i'm a policy walk thank you very much thank you next jackman and jer bare thank you so much you're now a policy walk i'm a policy walk thank you very much thank you next the future ex-missus alex joans thank you so much you're now a policy walk i'm a policy walk wait a

second is that get it get in line is that that hurt thank you very much next the dirty liberal from buttler pennsylvania thank you so much you're now a policy walk i'm a policy walk thank you very much a m jordan we get a tenth grade in the mix so uh thank you so much too i listened to knowledge fight for 22 000 minutes in 2022 and have the receipts to prove it take my money thank you so much you are now a technocrat i'm a policy walk i have risen above my enemies i might quit tomorrow actually i'm just gonna take a little break you down a little break for me and then we're going to come back and i'm gonna start the show over but i'm the devil i gotta be taken out of here i've been all this blah blah blah fuck you fuck you i got plenty of words for you but

at the end of the day fuck you in your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit maybe today should be my last broadcast i mean maybe i'll just be gone a month maybe five years maybe i'll walk you out of here tomorrow and you never see me again that's really what i want to do i never want to come back here again i apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that i was legitimately having breakdowns on here i'll be better tomorrow he's not oh nor shall he ever be what happened there well are you taking a sip of your iced tea when i played the clips or you didn't get to say thank you no no no i was uh i said thank you too early oh i say thank you after the technocrat drop i said it too early i see yeah i was very confused by your body language

we took a week off yeah i know got some rust i it's rusty i'm saying yeah we could get beat by the netherland um so uh here's a little out of context drop from today's show okay let's go to break because you may not eat a break but i gotta go pee pee he's gotta go pee pee so uh that's the kind of interview we've got all right one where he's gotta go pee pee okay okay so he's drinking so we've got an interview where alex is drinking yep he's gotta go guest is drinking oh the guest is drink so everyone's not the guest no okay this is in studio okay this is in studio yeah all right everybody's drinking guest also smoking a cigarette all right okay is wait it's dave chappelle is it dave chappelle no no okay not that big okay all right okay actually it's debatable i think you

could make an argument that this guest is maybe huh more longevity okay i think actually that's not fair because dave chappelle's career has gone quite a ways back yeah yeah um yeah no it's tough i don't i don't i wouldn't know how to gauge it okay well i'll wait until i see further um so i guess we'll we'll sort out whether or not this person is more or less famous than all right dave chappelle somebody smoking in the in the studio with alex jones yeah and drinking yeah okay i mean look you i mean you have to kind of get the sense that like alex has to be pretty subservient for someone to just light up a cigarette totally totally totally and it's not joe rogan because i know that's not happening anymore i think joe could show up there it wouldn't

go the other way no no we wouldn't go the other way okay but i wouldn't put it past joe to show up there but i don't know i don't think joe smoked cigarettes it's about the cigar yeah that's right that's what you would do yeah yep so anyway here's the first clip uh where we start off uh before the guest arrives okay ladies and gentlemen i'm alex jones your host it's saturday march 4 2023 it is 12 10 exactly central standard time and i have been gone for close to a week though i did host about half of the shows i have dedicated myself to spending more time with family with my parents and with my children and others because i've just been working seven days a week for 28 years and i've just been committed to do that i'm doing some catching up even though the world's

in a more intense and sane place than ever i've committed to take off at least five six days purely every month to spend it exclusively with my family because that is so important to do who knows how long we'll even be here so alex didn't take the time off specifically to only spend time with his family like in that clip he even said that he hosted his show some of the days over the phone and other days he called in while one of the idiots was hosting he's just taking more vacations because he knows that pretty soon he won't be able to afford that shit yeah like when his finances are like appropriately scrutinized he's screwed yeah i get why he can't be honest with the audience about it but it's a bit sad i uh i a bit bummer yeah i mean it's hard it would be a hard ask

for the audience to forgive you if you're like well i've committed to bruster's millioning for the rest of my gotta get rid of all this yeah it's gone it is not going to be mine for much longer so so long as i can i will spend it to difference between this and bruster's millions is like that the premise was that you get it at the end right like he has to spend all the money and then he gets the inheritance right you can't like there's nothing at the end of this rainbow for alex yeah yeah yeah and this is i mean the end of this rainbow is just a different type of zero for either way that the the feeling of i got one over and now i have zero or i screwed up and i'm losing for everything yeah but he's taking a lot of vacations yeah well he's trying to get one over

it's pretty it's pretty wild so we got a theme to this show okay it's not just a show where he comes in and is going to talk to a very famous guest he also has a theme okay the theme of this transmission today is the great awakening is here the chain reaction has taken place humanity a large segment of it is waking up an explosive rate so that's the new catchphrase that alex has that's the new branding explosive rate no the chain reaction chain reaction gotcha he's co-opted the great awakening from cubanon but you know that was working for a bit but you know how alex is he kind of wants to have something that's his own it's more exclusive to his platform and it's something that uh implies that his victory is inevitable so he landed on the chain reaction

the chain reaction the basic gist is that he's saying that the inciting event has already happened and now a chain reaction is in progress that can't be stopped anything the globalists try to do will just trigger another aspect of that chain reaction and then blow up in their face i think that it's uh there's a little bit of truth to this but not as much as alex is selling the far-right media has succeeded in radicalizing a significant portion of the population to the point where they live in a completely different reality and nothing will ever reach them internal communications from fox news can come out in the dominion lawsuit that clearly illustrate that they lie to their audience intentionally and knowingly and tucker will remain the most important person

in the world to them study after study can come out showing that the vaccine worked and i've remeced and didn't and a lot of people will continue to follow and trust the people who still preach the opposite i don't think this is really a chain reaction but alex is correct that he's helped foster and train a segment of the population to be blindly oppositionally defiant and ready to be mobilized against any right wing culture war battle that the people who are in charge want yeah the media the right wing media will just say go and then they're like ah i'm so bad yeah yeah yeah my my most recent favorite is a bank collapsed and uh what i'm hearing is that recently they hired somebody to uh help with like diversity or something so the argument

is very clear go if you hire someone for diversity then you will destroy the global financial system go woke go bankrupt exactly yeah we've heard it a million times it happens every day that's what happened with uh ken lay oh no i one day i walked over and i i helped an lgbtq plus person and then five dollars got stolen from my back pocket in go go broke i think an actual chain reaction is what's happening with alex's legal struggles he defamed grieving parents and that triggered a lawsuit the lawsuit triggered him being completely uncooperative to the point where he was hit with a default judgment and ended up owing over a billion dollars this gigantic judgment and the looming fear that he knew he was going to lose that case triggered alex to try to pull off a phony

bankruptcy and to mess around with his finances and possibly hide money in various places like by creating alex jones live which is totally unrelated to free speech systems completely unrelated the revelation of alex jones live led the bankruptcy court to order him to suspend that show and demand discovery of all documents related to that show and the claims that he made on air about it being separate from free speech systems we're yet to see what this triggers but i don't think it's completely out of the question to assume that alex may have opened himself up to criminal liability if he's up to no good and he ends up being charged with bankruptcy fraud that's just that's not a matter of fines he could go to jail for five years yeah and and again with with

discovery that includes i would hope we understand by now any sort of text communications or email communications such as ones that might include a conversation along the lines of hey tim they're going to take all of my money how do i hide some let's start a different show unrelated to the totally unrelated totally unrelated not at all bankruptcy fraud um yeah and i mean look you didn't comply with the discovery in the last case um and i don't expect that he would be much more forthcoming now but that could be much more of a problem yeah in these circumstances than in the civil case yeah obviously that's a pretty unlikely outcome like for him to go to jail but if there's ever been a case of someone who could be shown to be using the bankruptcy uh courts in the system in

bad faith it's definitely alex like if i were him i'd be taking every fucking vacation i could as well yeah yeah yeah because it might not just be a matter of him being broke yeah he could fuck around and uncooperate himself into prison yeah it's very it's very interesting to see the differing justice systems in action where it's like listen you can you can hurt people and harass people and destroy people but we'll give you the benefit of the doubt you fuck with our money you're dead we are coming for you you know yeah so anyway uh alex i don't know if you know this um was in cancun sure do you remember that uh yes he went to cancun again okay yeah okay yeah i want to and people people love him so let me again give you an anecdotal example you can see all the real world examples yourself

around you and and describe what happened i went for about six days with my family uh to a vacation destination in mexico and i got mobbed at the texas airport in austin i got mobbed continually in mexico and i was kind of hiding out just on the beach i got mobbed everywhere and flying back out of cancun yesterday we got to the airport about two hours before the flight we got through security really quickly and so i went and sat in a corner of a restaurant that was probably only a third full and basically everyone in the restaurant came over and shook my hand and said we know about the new world order the the great awakenings here we're gonna beat him together it was like fight club oh i heard the chain reactions happening it is like

fight club because he's imagining things yeah that would make sense it is very much like they are all people in his head coming up to say thank you you've done such great work when i heard that clip i thought it was imagining things because like i said like alex just got back from a vacation in mexico so i was i thought at first he was talking about the same one right but he said he came back and was at the airport the day prior which would have been march third so it has to be a different cancun vacation than the one he just got back from on our episode from february 21st sure two vacations to cancun yeah something is seriously up with this and if i had to guess it's just a matter of wasting money and living lavishly before that's not an option anymore

but there's an outside chance that alex has picked up like a side gig mulling fentanyl across the border i mean you know if he were if he were setting up contacts uh for his inevitable departure from the united states for good i'm trying to buy a house exactly i just appreciate i just appreciate i'm doing research on extradition a man who is the tip of the spear during a time when the globalist are more on the attack than ever making sure his audience knows he's on vacations oh and uh we might get nuked at any minute in five minutes until everyone's dead i'm gonna get out of here i'm gonna go on my second vacation to cancun in three weeks hey listen i know look me in the eyes i know you trust me right and i just told you that a nuclear war is

imminent yeah i gotta get out of here i'll i'll never give in but i might give out and i might go to cancun again i'm gonna i'm gonna have a good time whatever the shit hits the fan i might be having a margarita and a luxury resort at cancun there's a nuclear bomb coming into my tie in my mouth we're doing it what an asshole yeah so uh the last time that alex went to cancun we remember the security guard that he had told him that he overheard everyone on the beach telling him that they loved him yeah so i guess on this trip folks have gotten a little bit bolder and i actually mobbing him okay or more realistically alex got used to telling that lie about his security guard and it just wasn't exciting for him anymore so he needed to juice it up with comical exaggerations

i mean it just gets excessive the mexican waiters we're all fans and we're talking about what i had done on the show we love how you hate us you were live monday and tuesday but you're going back to texas today we're gonna be tuning in sunday are you gonna be doing a special show saturday i mean that's the mexican waiter then mexican nationals uh who were visiting from mexico city came over uh then people from germany people from wales england uh people from south korea i mean on and on and on and i'm sitting there for an hour getting up taking pictures and we're looking around the restaurant and i'm like wait a minute we're sitting here in the corner in the back the place is two-thirds empty most of tables are open and my wife goes yeah everyone has come over

and is a listener everyone everyone everyone everyone it's just he's so big he's huge yep roughly what i would say 40 percent of the population listens to him now because last i checked it was at one and a half billion so you gotta assume it's two or three right now well i mean if we're being um you know sincere operators right right we have to accept that this sample from the restaurant tells us that a hundred percent of the world it does seem it does seem like even if he is i suppose near on a near constant basis arguing for the non-existence of anyone who looks like you yeah you're still a fan yeah yeah how could you not be he's just how could you not be he's too good so everyone loves alex so much they just love him can't can't

stop from mobbing him also can't stop from mobbing him now let's just recall the number of times we have seen alex interact with people who love him oh it is generally not like oh i love sitting in the corner of this restaurant where i can't run away from you he usually seems to fight with people and run away yeah um but that's not uh when he's uh drunk on uh margaritas on vacation with the fam nope nope and he has a security guard right there yeah well yeah yeah that helps um so not only was everyone giving him love they're also giving him free shit they could not stop giving him free shit we we'd order dinner they go would you like some free lobster would you like some free tequila i'm like stop but i appreciate it it's not me bragging oh

i'm famous so i'm successful the enemy has tried to destroy me with everything they've got they have thrown every lie every twisted disinformation piece they have tried to make me satan and it's not that i'm that good as a talk show host our information definitely is that it's that people hate the system so much that they then just go well the system's attacking you you must be good and i got told that by so many mexicans we took the ferry over to islamahares and spent a couple days over there on a little beautiful island i've been going since i was a kid and there was basically nothing on it now it's built up and it was it was insane oh your drink's free why we love your work oh that bag of chips your daughter wants just it's free

and then the mexicans are trying to give us beer give us tequila everywhere i'm like why they go sir we love you we know when the system comes out for somebody they are good we are with you we love you i mean it was so intense ladies and gentlemen it was insane the level of support he's doing that trump thing with the sir stories i mean yeah that i suppose the kernel of truth in there might be that he is in a everything included resort and everybody just keeps bringing him drinks because that's how it works that's kind of what i was thinking based on the other times that i've seen where alex has stayed when he's on vacations like he's probably just spending a whole lot or the other version of this that i could believe is that a bartender gave him a free drink

because he thought he needed it yeah yeah you look sad dude hey you're a mope i don't know who you are but you seem to really need this so i'm gonna say wow i love your show yeah i want to take a quick second here though to break down some of alex's thinking these people in mexico are coming up to him and giving him all this free stuff and they say that they're doing it because they know the system is against alex which means he must be good this is not how most people think but it is alex thinks most people take the information available about a person and then they make an assessment based on that but this isn't how alex experiences the world for alex everything is about defining yourself based on opposition he knows that he's on to something when people

attack him for saying it because he's convinced himself that his imaginary enemies attack him the most when he's over the target and thus negative attention and consequences are actually signs of virtue this is a coping mechanism that alex has developed so he doesn't have to hear or consider criticism of the dangerous stupid and irresponsible actions that he engages in basically on a daily basis most people in the real world living their lives don't need to employ this level of escapism to get through the day so they don't come up with absurd rationalizations like this people who are already fully indoctrinated into the info war maybe have accepted alex's premise on this shit so i guess if everyone alex encountered on his second vacation of the month were died in

the wool info warriors this could happen i guess i think it's more likely that alex is making up a story and mysteriously every other character and it thinks exactly how he does because alex has no creativity or ability to understand that other people's minds work differently than his own yeah uh he's an idiot yeah that's not really well he has no creativity yeah his creativity is what he would say if he came up to himself and said i love you his imaginary enemies mysteriously have all the plans that he would do if he were them yep everybody every character in his story is either a demon walking around who's possessed and that or they think exactly like him it's just it's so crazy how the world works i'd love to i'd love to read an alex jones screen

play though because it would probably be one of the more absurd uh and twisted things i think it was i robot i think that was the one that he wrote yeah so uh look man everyone loves him and uh even leftists don't fuck with him oh sure sure no one no i see if you left us look at me just going with their mouths over there they just don't even know what to say they kind of just keep looking at me well it's better than looking at this as they're not coming up getting in my face because they know they got screwed they know they got lied to with the poison shots they know i'm right in the main they know you've lost about a half billion dollars so i'm gonna give you the good news here this isn't me talking about myself again i've said this a hundred times because

it's so critical understand you are blessed if you're a school teacher or a farmer or a bus driver or a police officer or a doctor uh or you're gonna bank you got your life you got your family you want to go speak at city council you can you should you want to go to school board great you speak out but you're not a public person you get to be private and the enemies of freedom have tried to make my life a living hell they've tried to destroy me and anybody else has stuck their head up or resisted them and i can tell you as a gauge kind of like you get a turkey for christmas or thanksgiving and you buy the metal thermometer you know because the old one broke or whatever and you split the thermometer in the turkey take care of your thermometer so to

see if you've gotten the middle of it cooked and that's all i am is a thermometer i'm a gauge because i'm well known my face is out there and let me explain some of these aren't just people interested to take a photo with me and say they like me no i would ask the people i'd say oh really what's the last time you tuned in two days ago you were talking about this or they'll start telling you oh i was tuned in the last few days to oh and we love oh and but when are you back when are you back i'm like well i'm back tomorrow we thought so we talked about what time what time i got asked at least 10 times in the cancun airport when i was live again and before i could get out of my mouth a couple times they go noon noon or will it be two o'clock so your word of mouth you spread the word

about the broadcast all of you has caused a chain reaction okay um none of this happened no but like imagine how fucking antisocial it seems to be like someone comes up and is like hey i'm a big fan oh yeah name three of my songs yeah that's crazy so that is crazy that's nuts he's challenging them like i don't believe that you like me what's what didn't happen what's stranger about that is that if somebody accurately told me what was on like if i'm alex and somebody accurately told me what i said two days ago that's how i would know they are not a fan uh-huh because that means that they listen and remember the things right right right so i would have told them something two days ago that directly contradicts literally what i'm talking to them about right now it would be it

it would be cause for concern yeah yeah yeah so i've run away this clip was a tortured and painfully drawn out way for alex just to say that his experiences are a mirror for how the patriots are doing and when people are nice to him the patriots are winning and when people are mean to him the globalists are about to nuke everyone and there's no hope and get in your bunkers and flee the city so yeah i get what he's trying to convey but i question if that metaphor is actually even what he's trying to get at i know alex pretty well and i've seen the kinds of places he frequents like when he goes on vacation and they aren't cheap like it seems like a bunch of like he seems to me like the guy at the casino who's like man the blackjack dealer was so nice yeah yeah 100

percent they were being paid to be they want to keep you at the table i can't believe how much they were interested in what i do they were trying to keep me talking for as long as possible it's it and how's that vibe to it yeah i don't know but i i i do like the idea of alex's new nickname the meat thermometer of liberty i would i would alter the metaphor just a little bit and i would say alex is more like the turkey and it's time to stick a fork in him he's done yeah uh that's for sure yeah so alex uh i think has a thought and it's of a song uh oh and it's a rockin song okay it's not about me getting praise that oh i feel good about things because i'm getting praise no no it's knowing that i'm supposedly satan in the mainstream media hundreds of articles a day

uh thousands thousands of programs a month thousands thousands on local news national foreign lying lying lying lying lying lying lying and you've got that old uh great song alice cooper no more mr nice guy and if you listen to no more mr nice guy we just prepped me the uh lyrics no more mr nice guy running real quick thanks he says i got no friends they read the papers they can't be seen with me and i'm feeling real shot down and i'm feeling mean i'm not back when alex cooper wrote that 35 40 years ago this is 40 years ago now if the newspapers attacked you man you were prosada non grata that was the unofficial social credit score what are we now those newspapers have less than an eight percent approval rating in national polls so does mainstream corporate

broadcast media and all the cable media they are so universally or almost universally reviled that the only thing that would hurt me would be if the newspaper started endorsing me the media doesn't think that alex is satan they just think he's a fraud and a liar who's prioritized profits over every measure of decency and his actions have led to tremendous pain which he doesn't care about at all there aren't thousands of articles about him written but it's always suspicious that he doesn't include in that list of his persecutions a podcast about him with almost 800 episodes that sold out two nights of live shows in under half an hour and uh has caused his employees to not want to be corporate representatives for him and the fear of being

mocked at the so weird that that's not on the list but at the very least we cost him 30 k higher in britney pause yeah it seems like that could have been uh maybe something that's on that list seems weird weird the no more mr nice guy thing is interesting because alex seems to be saying that his situation is somehow comparable to the lyrics of that song only for it to actually be the opposite yeah a small point alex forgets is the second verse of that song is about alex alice cooper trying to go to church and the reverent punching him in the nose so it doesn't quite work for well nobody remembers the second verse right come on that song was kind of a joke about his public image and in interviews he's been pretty aware of the fact that this bad press and social ostracization

that uh like it made his career yeah because without the theatrics who knows if that band would have even been a success no i mean it's great his live show is incredible he does the whole thing it's like frank zappa told him to like never deny yeah absurd stories about yourself yeah no there's no way that guar is just a regular ass band and they still be not gonna make yeah yeah not happen yeah alex cooper recording the bad press in the same way that alex will do shit like ranting about eating his neighbors hoping for people in the actual media to cover it so his name gets out there and people keep talking about it also if alex's theory about how you're a persona non grata if the papers were against you back in the day if that was actually true we wouldn't know the name alex cooper

yeah alex's point is essentially self debunking yeah like okay okay hold on are you telling me that if the papers were against you you were persona non grata now are we talking about the late 80s and 90s right around the time whenever every paper on the fucking country was like rap music is bad for you yeah never heard rap again yeah never came back also alex wants to trot out that statistic about approval ratings and i've never heard him site where he's getting that number from and it hasn't been updated in years it's wildly inconsistent too like he always just has it under 10% basically just choose whatever number he wants yeah i have two rebuttals okay the first is that i would love to see a national poll and what it would come up with if they tried

to gauge the approval rating of alex jones if he thinks it's going to be higher than 10% i think he's got another thing coming to quote judas priest another theatrical rock band well done alex will get some traction on twitter here and there because people love posting sensational things he says but in terms of actual support it's got to be next to nothing he puts out episodes of his show on his website and they end up getting about 200 000 views which is shit assuming that each of these views represents 10 people who like alex which is generous yeah as an assumption yeah that would be about two million people or about 0.6 of the population this is woefully unscientific but i suspect if some actual polling was done his numbers might actually be worse than a 0.6

percent approval rate it's not good very low people do not appreciate all of the horrible things he's done or i mean just from my anecdotal experience the people that i talk to often i'm like this is what i do for a living yeah and who's that yeah a lot of people don't just don't know who he is yeah yeah my other rebuttal is that gallup released a poll last month and it found a 26 percent of the population has quote a favorable opinion of the news media and 20 percent are neutral it's a net negative for sure but alex's numbers are completely fabricated and they're just meant to be self-super yeah yeah it's a load of bullshit also you can't really i mean i understand the poll being something meaningful as a as a gauge i suppose a little temperature but i mean

like a meter thermometer ultimately that's like oh well the country just doesn't like you right now because you because you kind of suck oh it's a better meat thermometer than alex that's definitely going to a expensive ass resort and people being nice to him that's definitely true but you know so i will say one thing i have not really even fully given you a sense of how much he talks about how much people loved him okay on his vacation he's people loved him on his vacation it's a lot okay to the point where it was incredibly annoying yeah i believe that so now we're going to get to our guest okay i want i feel like i want to give you some clues but i think almost anything might give it away all right it's a person whose pronouns are kiss my ass does that give it does that give

it away k ma no pronouns not uh pronouns are oh is it wait what yeah come on i feel i feel the just tell me just tell me it's rosanne it's rosanne yeah rosanne bar it's rosanne bar yeah rosanne yep it's rosanne sitting there smoking a cigarette it's rosanne studio yep it's rosanne yep what formerly rosanne arnold uh-huh uh-huh of the seminal sitcom okay rosanne i have one thing to say about this yep all right i appreciate that it is rosanne in a sense because so many times we see the never-ending recurring guys show up over and over again it's nice that rosanne is popping up you know like as far as recurring people go it's a woman this time at least you know like there's some there's some flavor of difference yeah yeah it's not just another

asshole that's that's popping back up again you know it's a different asshole it's a different asshole um i have a couple things i want to say before we get into any of this the first is that rosanne actually has a couple of good points um i will give her that and when they come up i will give credit where credit's due sure she has more bad points she is not uh well right i don't think she's doing great yeah um drinking uh at noon uh smoking a cigarette in alex's studio indicative perhaps of uh where she's at maybe maybe in a little bit of a nothing left to lose kind of mode yeah boy i'll tell you what yeah um the other thing i wanted to say is that these two have no chemistry it is so uncomfortable and awkward there's pauses there is just i don't know what the energy

in the room is yeah it is bad right it is a bad energy right to the point where i've seen so many fucking alex interviews and a lot of times when there's bad energy he will just steamroll the person yeah but he can't no he can't steamroll rosanne because she's really famous and you can't steamroll rosanne well i i think you could in this circumstance that possible he could have he could have done it but i think he's worried about her leaving right they're coming back right she's a celebrity that he has access to and so like he just leaves things hanging and he can't employ a lot of his techniques that he uses to make things interesting yeah and it hurts oh man i have had very few um interviews of his that i've listened to where i'm like i don't i can't

handle this i don't know what's going on wow this feels unsafe in a way like i don't know there's there's an energy here yeah it's it's that's that's such a bummer because i i mean you know like i know rosanne i know what's no no i know what's happened i know who she's become right but as a comedian who's pronouns are kiss my ass yeah but as as a comic and and somebody who like looked up to her when i was when i was learning comedy you know yeah and i she had she had some you know at the height of her powers i mean definitely alex can't steamroll her no fucking rosanne you know yeah like that kind of thing definitely and i mean look i'm gonna talk about how much of an idiot she is and yeah these things are stupid that she's saying i'm gonna make fun

of her quite a bit but at the same time there's no part of me that wants to take away the achievement that she's had in her career yeah yeah she like what is a very important part of comedy history um rosanne was not a show that my family let me watch my parents had a a real uh prohibition against shows that showed family structures that they felt were unhealthy so a lot of those things like married with children i appreciate that yeah those kinds of shows were definitely off the table weirdly though like stuff like step by step was okay uh but i guess that's because it's kind of sacriny sweet yeah yeah you know it's not as dangerous or challenging those are something like rosanne those are those were like learn a lesson shows you know like every episode had a had a like

at the end of it everybody is resolved and they're like and that's why we won't steal from things right like that and they're also and they're often like not all that challenging of lessons no whereas i think that rosanne did touch on some issues that were a bit more difficult if you're broke you might need an abortion yeah yeah yeah so step by step didn't deal with that type shit at least not that i remember right um so like i also have not watched a ton of the show itself so i i'm not i'm not an expert in it but i'm i'm aware of its legacy and i've maybe watched a few video essays about uh the show kind of because i had an impression in my head uh some years back of what it was and i thought it's a stupid show right and i've been disabused of that notion like

there is a lot going on yeah in terms of the and it's not like she was just the star of that show she was intimately involved with like the the writing and everything and it was named rosanne yeah yeah and i want to be very clear about that to not like make it seem like there's a lot of people who come into alex's uh shit like let's say ted newton and like he sucks and i'm also going to shit on his career yeah whereas with rosanne now there's a lot there's a lot that she's done that uh stands uh and and she should be remembered for as opposed to this unfortunately yeah yeah yeah no i mean her her stage presence like at the time when she started breaking through it was in complete opposition she was one of those people who you could say like

the more people hated her the more she was on to something you know that was a real thing for her now unfortunately that is not a lasting life philosophy and as things change wherein perhaps maybe when something is against you it's actually good criticism because you've only been rewarded for fighting back against it it makes sense that you would continue to believe that that makes sense yeah but this this interview is bad yeah that makes sense so there's a lot of it that's just funny stupid i guess but i mean i i i guess i should just probably tell you this up front they both cry at a certain point what yeah this interview is bad and yet they both cry somehow i don't know if they would think it's bad but objectively it's bad oh my god what is happening

yeah okay yep all right buckle in hello rosanne all right well it's a special he has recorded for a week from austin texas broadcasting worldwide it's alex jones well it's a special live saturday broadcast i'm your host not alex jones live great rossian bar we may go an hour or may go completely unrelated to alex jones doctor for years on the phone followed her work she got the platform back when i did four years ago we were some of the first they went after and she is a p-body award for television excellence several humanities awards emi's several golden gloves multiple people's choice awards the ellen and rosa belt freedom of speech award a whole bunch of nick loading awards a bunch of mtv awards and she's here

with us to cover joy and how to not let them get us down and break our will you know it's funny she's covering joy i had no idea i didn't talk to her before the interview she's agreed last week to come in but i was gonna talk about how i've learned not let them get me down on the key is not letting them destroy our joy and and i swear she just said i want to talk about joy wow okay so we are going to see both of them cry on the epa the interview that is so completely about joy yeah gotcha and i mean i i i should say i believe the sincerity of rosanne crying yes and it makes me very uncomfortable okay alex is faking yeah well yeah obviously and you'll be able to see that quite clearly yeah yeah in a i don't know hour and a half when we get to

that because there's a bit to go over it's gonna be a while so right off the gate uh here i believe the vibe is wrong like i said sure no chemistry between these two whatsoever yeah and i think that this clip gives you a little taste of that i said you believe we're winning in the awakening series you said absolutely that's what i came here to talk about so i'm gonna try to shut up and give you the floor great by the way you look amazing in person thank you thank you very much well i feel amazing um uh well i better take these off i just wanted to show i got these in new york and they they're this really cool color you can't see anywhere i like i like those glasses aren't they cool and they kind of match my whole thing that i like my outfit i've been loving your

very daring comedy like just coming right out with a poison shot knock and you're getting nothing but love i am so overwhelmed with it i mean i've never felt it before maybe i was afraid to feel it you know you know there's just something that's not clicking yeah um she came out with a hat and sunglasses on sure and uh that was what she was doing a little bit of business taking off sunglasses right right yeah i don't know i i i feel like that gives you a little kind of a taste of the discomfort but i don't know if it fully i feel like you almost have to watch it to actually get the sense of like what's wrong with this energy here's what i feel uh as i've done some i've done some interviews on both sides i've been there i appreciate it when the pleasantries the

the like the the small talk not on air sure you know when you're doing an interview for people go ahead start get get into the interview be entertaining right out of the gate instead of like i bought these sunglasses like no no it's a color that you can't see yeah because you got to start the ball rolling the momentum has to move and if you start with small talk there's no momentum true yeah um so i also think that i don't know like rosanna likes alex quite a bit she she's pretty clear about that okay i do question how aware she is of his actual career right and that's indicated by something she says here and then things fall apart very fast uh oh so i wanted to be here on a very powerful day and to say things that are powerfully meaningful

to me and also to be with you alex because you're a hero of mine and you've been telling the truth for a long time and when you're wrong you admit it and that's something very very rare you know that is something really rare i've seen you say yeah i'll admit it when i'm wrong that's you say you will a lot of these people that are on media they never do that plus they never say they're sorry for the people they've harmed when they are wrong they aren't human i think they're are they cyborgs or robots i don't know but they they don't display human characteristics like empathy or caring for their fellow human it's like they've all bought into this thing and they are robotic and anyway i wanted to be here today it's a powerful jewish day and i wanted to speak

as a jew because everybody's always talking about the jews and some jews are saying they're jews but i can tell they're not uh oh okay so we've got rosanne's uh rebuttal to kanye a couple minutes rosanne and kanye are fighting through the info wars show this makes sense to me this is a sentence i knew was gonna happen i don't think that that has anything to do with kanye i think it is just fucking uncomfortable right out of the gate some jews aren't jews okay oh boy all right and hello okay yeah alex does not admit uh when he's wrong also there's a like you could hear her say are they cyborgs or clones and you might think like ha ha you're being metaphorical no she's not no she was very literally later she will talk more about how she

believes there are a bunch of clones among us um which is cool also i think when she's saying that these people are robotic she's talking about like other people on news networks yeah and stuff and that's because they're professionals yeah they're doing a very different job than alex uh drunk uh freaking out on air yeah and yeah if you're comparing like he appears to be like a real person man sure he's having breakdowns on air like we all do sure yeah i i think that is different than the job that let's say a uh an actual anchor is doing if you want to have a conversation they do look robotic compared to yelly mccryan yeah if you want to have a conversation that maybe they're a little too robotic in comparison fine but i think maybe alex might be too much in comparison to that yeah

i'll just throw that out there yeah maybe there's a balancing act i would presume that like anderson cooper jake tapper off air aren't uh no no they're bad examples because they have a bit of personality they walk over into their closet somebody turns their switch off and then they close the door and then they're like hey it's seven o'clock did you wake up cooper by and then they open the door and oh no his battery is ruined gotta clone him yep so um i don't even know how to here we go okay and uh today is shabbat so that means satan does not exist today because he cannot exist on a holy day he can't live anywhere in holy space so that means that our prayers go straight to god today he can't interfere or uh f with them or nothing else and i'm here to pray with alex today because

i've seen alex pray on this show and i believe his prayers i believe he is a soul has a living soul and uh people who have living souls watch alex and they are touched by his prayers as was i and i'm somebody who prays too i just have a talk show and i asked people on that talk show surrounded by 28 lawyers who are trying to prevent me from doing it but i asked people to pray to send a storm away from the coast of florida and it actually moved oh man uh uh oh see see what i'm saying see what i'm saying i am now uncomfortable see yeah that's that's what happens i don't know i don't know where to begin right 28 lawyers we're trying to get you to stop praying with guests right uh so satan it's a god god and satan have a deal where every seventh time the earth spins

right satan's gotta go he's like that's like putting the tie on the door at college satan's like whoa somebody's fucking today i guess i can't be in there satan hit the showers hit the showers buddy yeah you're sleeping on somebody's couch tonight you take the day off because prayers are coming through you can't f with these now on every other day though satan's like jumping out grabbing prayers like oh i got this one but he's not a hundred percent effective that's true yeah that's why you still gotta pray even on off days right you never know if it's gonna work you never know it's it's still i mean you would think you should save them up even the best corner back isn't going to be able to block every no no no you know no you you're on revis island you're

still completing about 15 percent yeah yeah so i'm uncomfortable yeah not good not good so then roseanne prays sure you know i want to pray with you today alex i came here because i want people to pray with us that we can overcome all machinery that has ties to the satanic lower world of evil that we break all those ties all those satanic vows that people have taken all right they be cut today may they not exist tomorrow those are my vows you can't take them souls of the human beings who care for other human beings and for this country and what it stands for which is a melting pot of individual rights not group rights where people would punish for things they didn't do what but for justice this seems very specific now including women like me

have the power to speak freely and to own property and to work it with the sweat of their brow what and that's beautiful please pray on their knees oh boy to a big elitist group who think of us as their slaves or their prey may that end today and i'll ask you alex to say amen with me amen continue the prayer she said with him and turn it over to you now because i know you can do it i know that no matter what group we come from or what our backgrounds are there is a real guy that created universe and consciousness okay oh boy so yeah she finishes the prayer and then she's like passing the ball alex now alex you take a prayer we all well it's all it's all praying you you uh you lead the congregation can you do that i feel like you can't do that i feel like

it's like a dance battle and she's done the whoop right but i mean i feel like they're praying to different gods you can't you can't continue the prayer to a different god that's not how it works gods don't appreciate the relay race of of heaven um i think that i i mean look i don't fully understand from listening to this entire interview her exact relationship with judieism but i believe that she is also uh cool with alex's god sure sure so i think there's something going i'm not entirely sure i'm i'm just saying i this is outside of any organized religion i don't think alex believes in any organized whatever god alex is praying to i don't think has any relationship to anyone else's that's my point that's fair enough yeah by that standard he's the only one

who can pray to that god exactly you shouldn't pass off that prayer that might be the devil so alex i don't think picked up on that though that the prayer was being handed off even though she was very explicit about it she said he thinks she thinks he can do it so he tries a little bit it seems like he's arguing with god as opposed to see there we go yeah i'm turning it over to you now because i know you can do it i know that no matter what group we come from or what our backgrounds are there is a real god the credit universe of consciousness and if we think about the fact that what would there be if there was nothingness no planets no universe no god no humans no nothing in all of eternity in all time how could there be nothing and then you asked

well there just wouldn't be anything bring something out of nothing that is god and so i know that being humble before god is is essential and and and realizing that we are really not god but an expression of god's consciousness and will and the fact that god wants to be able to commune with us forever and and and and god was basically lonely so made creatures that have free will but that's a gamble because god loves us so much and god knows some of us because we're given free will will join uh with with things that are not good that that are bad and and and so if god did anything wrong and i'm not saying god did it it's the fact that god gave us freedom to do bad things the satanists always say well god allows all this to go on your god does this no

god gave us consciousness and creation so in front of the heavenly father of the universe and all space and time and all dimensions that created this for us to experience incredible enlightenment to be able to interface with god i just thank god for this moment we're here together amen is that what i was well that's what he said after she said pray i'm gonna throw this out there i'm i'm i mean again i'm not uh familiar with all religions but i would say that most religions would be pretty pissed off if you said they're god created life just because god was lonely he was alone and and then he of course compelled your infinite worship and enforces a punishment that will last infinitely because he was lonely one time and he might have fucked up by giving us

free will but he didn't i might have but uh but he didn't all right okay very strange what a weird god so anyway um rosanne has a rejoinder hey man and now i'm new for that uh what we're doing back to backs that all those who do have the spark of a soul in them in a in the most high positions of power will feel that spark grow and they will remove themselves just simply by resigning um for the sins they've committed against the children of this world may they just grow enough soul to kindly remove themselves and may god guide a person of wisdom and ethics and morality to replace them may that happen immediately uh i was also going to talk about mind control and how i also want to talk about uh mind control you can see why i was saying i don't feel safe

listening to this like i don't know where anything is going no no sentences going just all kinds of directions yeah doesn't i feel untethered i just yeah yeah yeah i feel like i'm driving i'm in the passenger seat of a car with somebody who's wearing a blindfold and there is a team of people trying to hit the car with their own cars and occasionally it hits you know there's going to be an accident there's going to be an accident probably more than one yeah yep oh boy and the she's drunk yeah oh she's definitely drunk that's yeah that was out of the question once you put the blindfold on you were probably drunk first yeah so she wants to talk mind control okay um and here's where that goes wouldn't gods i also want to talk about uh mind control that we

have all been under in our country and we continue to be under which i'm talking about in my act like why are people just lining up to do when i see how they're doing like people with these german accents taking it telling us to take these shots and they're they're uh you know using the jewish people basically over there in israel as the lab rats to do it on and they're lining up to do it i know that this is the end of time sure you know i know that this is the end it's so surreal i mean yet nyahu i'm not even against the amount of tagging he says oh israel is so lucky we've got rid of the laws now we can test on our people any drugs and find out what they do and then it's weirdos with german accents like legronde and and uh and i can't even say his name claus Schwab

are going to be going to take over your body are you going to control you i mean it's it's like it's overtly satanic it is overtly satanic and it's like our task if we have any intelligence or soul to see it but like so uh alex almost forgot the name of his season's big villain yeah yeah claus Schwab doesn't have a german accent but i guess that alex mostly knows how Schwab speaks from his own impression of him so i can understand how alex would get confused expose uh Schwab is swiss uh he was born in germany but his parents fled to switzerland during the holocaust ha they did return to germany after the war but schwab would go back to switzerland during his school years i'm guessing legronde is a reference to roger legronde who is an immunologist at the

vaccine research institute in france i was going to say famous last name for a german is legronde he doesn't speak with a german accent at all it's all german accents to alex and rozan though because they're dumb and reductive people who speak funny in a european way uh they're suspicious and probably german and thus secretly nazis and practicing satanism yeah i'm not sure what alex is talking about in terms of a new law allowing israel to test experimental medicines on civilians but i'm sure it'd be it'd be helpful if he could provide a source yeah i think that this is just the way that he's rewritten the story of israel being a country that was very early to adopt covid vaccines which alex has categorized as being a gigantic medical experiment right so

that's now right it's not this yeah whenever you make it whenever you make the vaccine a medical let's say race specific bio weapon and israel happens to be the country with the highest adoption rate i mean it's hard not to make a one-to-one jump there your narrative is built yeah however because alex has to love far-right dictators he can't really criticize netanyahu too hard well you know so it's a it's a weird it's a weird world he runs the risk of yay showing back up with his bottle of you yeah you don't want that you don't want that so um i know from listening to a ton of alex that one thing that he does all the time is that when he has nowhere to go in an interview or he has to like fucking stall he asks a genre of questions and it's like

how would you describe the world we're in right now right right how would you describe this time right what would you who's winning the globalists are the good guys those kind of questions are the like the fallbacks when he's like i don't know what i'm doing i would i would call those i'm gonna take a bite of sandwich question yes yeah 100 so he asks about team humanity versus team demon can you speak to the great awakening how do you think team humanity team freedom versus team demons doing right now well i think they can't fight us because one thing they don't know nothing about is the human soul and the human spirit so they don't even know how to fight it all they can do is the only thing they would know about because earthquakes with their earth like they wouldn't

know about how to drive a car stuff like that and they're just trying to kill everybody or kill as many people as they can they don't like thinkers they're trying to get rid of all the thinkers especially thinkers like you and me out because we talk to people and they don't like communicators neither or people who can receive information they like people who can't receive information just people who can take stuff in through their eyes and memes and stuff when they look at screens and then live their lives trying to replicate that oh really people who just take in things and memes like alex who constantly is just reporting on memes and headlines okay i'm such a fan of how many criticisms that she's making of the quote unquote media that are direct one-to-one things

that alex does on this show yeah if she watched it which she doesn't no absolutely everybody kind of likes the vibe of alex yeah they're like alex what they think he is in my mind alex you are fighting against the bad guys and if i listen to your show i would realize that you are the bad guys i am actively fighting against oh no you're not a thinker you're stupid and angry maybe maybe your specific gift well i mean is convincing people of something it's not i mean think about even like the beginning of this podcast i even had a bit of a perception of alex yeah that very clearly was eroded by listening to him um you know before you before you actually watch his show which most people don't do because it's long insufferable and boring yeah most people don't do

that and they have this idea of him in your head he's like this pioneering voice of like righteousness and like he criticizes both sides and you know he's been wrong about some things but he's right about more and these fraudulent perceptions are reinforced by idiots like rogan and yep all these folks who don't watch his show either yeah like it's uh i understand where she could have that perception but yeah it's it's kind of sad yeah no somehow he over like he adopted the personality of a pirate radio underground dj kind of guy yeah because he was that early on in his career right right right and now it's all over and the other thing too that i i would note is that i think that rosanne doesn't watch his show but like

she would watch qanon shows yeah she's farther than alex yeah in some ways yeah i think that you would find alex boring in some other uh sort of uh standards sure sure so um she you know she had some interesting thoughts about um writing i think i actually agree with her a little bit but then i then i also don't all right writing let's talk about writing for a minute it is about writing because when you deprogram yourself as per kathy o brian in her book uh time to heal well and her husband was a cia guy who was into mind sciences and he taught her that when the act of writing out an experience makes your mind engage and and you begin to heal and that's why they outlawed that's how they're going to be programmed to write it down in the

schools now it's all they outlawed writing in schools because that gets into the deeper yeah don't read it through the eyes just write it because writing engages part of your brain that trigger critical thinking and this is key so exactly listening and writing no more they don't and that's why people ask why do i put up text i tell the crew i don't want to be on screen everything i say pull up text because that engages the brain and it's and i'm using mind science there i didn't get trained at some university i know that so we're like we if we tell you something we show you the clip for yourself or we show you an article or we show you a definition we want you to go look at that to trigger your brain alex actually flashes

headlines up on the screen for the opposite reason it's not to engage the audience's critical thinking it's to pacify it he never shows anything on screen long enough for a viewer to actually read what he's showing but just long enough that you can probably tell that it's a headline that appears to confirm whatever alex is saying these articles are also almost always from info wars dot com where alex has critical uh editorial control over all the headlines that appear on articles even when they're reposted from other media outlets so he's essentially flashing up props he's prepared to convince the audience that what he's saying is something that's based on grounded reality when it's just nothing yeah it's a parlor trick but it does exploit an

elemental brain science and that it's designed to make sure that any doubts viewers have will be quieted by the appearance of evidence yeah also not good uh as a sign that rosanne's bringing up kathy o'brien who's not a good source on anything uh o'brien wrote a book in 1995 called transformation of america where she claimed that she was forced uh to be a part of various government mind control programs like mk ultra and project monarch she has zero evidence of any of her claims which have evolved over the years to be much more extravagant as we pretty regularly see with people who show up in places like project camelot so odd i don't give her claims a whole lot of credibility and from my estimation they're largely a combination of popular conspiracy theory

lore and remnants of the satanic panic they were still lingering pretty heavily in 1995 writing is a good activity to engage in for its own sake though i agree with that there's a reason the therapists often uh suggest to journaling or why you know that whole craze of people doing morning pages yeah caught on there's a reason and it's because writing is a productive habit yeah i would suggest people try yeah it doesn't quit because it's really hard but i mean if you're not trying to write a book oh yeah like journaling as a habit of like introspection is yeah that's a great idea yeah it has nothing to do with liao's flash his text on screen though that's pretty ridiculous no no no no no no no so rosanne uh like i said she does believe that there's clones sure and robots

okay and what have you all right and used to i'd shake 20 hands i get one fu for every 20 i got nothing but love and again people say i'm not again i'm not saying oh i'm so popular no no no i'm this demonized person and the system is so hated and distrusted now that people go automatically well this guy must be good that that says how weak the power structure is it absolutely does but they forget like the power structure this big pyramids all about pyramids well this pyramid that they constructed the money people i'm talking about the people who own the world they forgot that the big old base that holds them up that you know has to be composed of living human beings i guess they're going to replace with cyborgs or robots or something i don't know what or maybe just clones of people

who really don't have any uh ties to each other who can't do anything but attack or work i don't know is that what they're after no i totally agree that's what they want is they want us to be nazi stream and they brought the nazi stream was called over our government you know with the look everybody this is what i want everybody you know every penny on this earth is accounted for and it all goes back to the bank of international settlements oh boy so i guess alex agrees that the globalists want to replace people with clones yeah i didn't realize that so the bank of international settlements is a big boogeyman of conspiracy theory shit which makes sense it's a gathering forum for central banks and the conspiracy theorists already have built in hate for central banks so that their

forum and the bank of the central banks must be even more evil right put on the spot not one of these people could name a single figure involved in the bis they couldn't explain what the bank actually does nor describe its functions it's just a shadowy mysterious entity that supposedly controls everything and can account for every penny in the world which is nonsense yeah there are a lot of very valid criticisms of the bank though like many that have been made about their involvement in transfers of wealth from Czechoslovakia to nazi germany during world war two but the shit that comes out of folks like alex and rosanna is just meaningless meme talking points yeah or bosh yeah yeah i want to work more british slang in there bosh is a great one yeah yeah love bosh

british slang is uh maybe that's the next season of our podcast it's just better gotta work in some of that bosh i i mean i'm telling you i prefer i'm trying to go anachronistic that's what i want all of my slang to be from like fucking 1920s i'm gonna start saying groovy all the time too that's from the 20s i understand i'm gonna try and get i'm gonna try and work in some fucking choices canterbury tales shit i don't i don't trust you to make choices though because you you still text me cool beans yeah i do i love cool beans i'm never gonna get rid of groovy is way too pedestrian sure it's too well known right all right i'm gonna go with uh uh tof i'm gonna i'm gonna toss around a tof all the time you know what's that one for uh that's uh that's you know

whenever people are like uh kind of an asshole bosh you know that can't be beat can't be beat so anyway we're clones okay let me put you on this okay we need clones for a reality show where you drop 400 clones in different places around the united states they all have a goal the clone zone to meet up and only one of them can become the real person at the end of it so they become the pinocchio exactly i'm gonna call it uh real life highlander the pinocchio show in the clone zone everybody gets swords all right i i'm i'm telling you i think highlander only works if we have clones okay yeah okay i'll buy it yeah i mean i'd like to see a pilot at least okay record a pilot i don't know we'll clone them we'll give them swords but then you get canceled

first episode there's a big centerpiece we're two of a fight and then they're like ah we can't produce anymore what do i do with 399 clones in one dead clone look that's on you man it's your business networks not interested go talk to netflix all right okay so um i also think that if there were these like evil money people who control the world right there is a zero chance that they would forget that their power relies on the bottom of the pyramid yeah none none so tough yeah oh no they forgot that most of their time would be spent split between stealing from the bottom and placating the bottom so they can continue stealing from the bottom if there were a like giant like these people who are behind the scenes who like you know they control the entire world

every single thing they would do would be in service of maintaining the status quo yeah yeah there would be never any instinct of like oh we got to rock the boat oh we got to kill off the population no why would they do any of that shit why would they do false flags right it would be all about stability right keeping things in order because otherwise they can't uh run the world anymore yeah or whatever and if that's the flaw of a lot of these conspiracy theories i find all of them have the motives are fucked yeah and it's just like that's not how the systems actually function you know if you have a system like that that becomes stagnant and then it falters from the inside and eventually crumbles like none of the things that he's described are at all sustainable

no it's it's a very similar to how alex tells the lie about his security guard uh hearing about how greedy is on vacation and then that erodes to the you know you can't have it i'm mobbed he gets bored has turned into something bigger yep so what about john the revelator uh didn't expect him to pop up after but now he's here okay so what do you make of john the revelator if you really read revelation it describes everything perfectly wow what was he jacked into what do you mean jacked into i mean john the revelator in the book of revelation well you should believe what god christianity right and things that jesus taught and all that well i know everything about that too and i think that here's what i think the times who are living now i'm just going to put it like this well uh it says

you know it says in our holy books 2000 years ago it totally describes the times who are living in now it also foretells a computer and an age of instant information and intelligence and data that can't be denied and that that would be the the hallmark of this age and that i believe we are living in and that is also called the age of messianic thought so i know that some people do call him john the revelator but i think that the author of revelations is more commonly known as john of patmos yeah that's what i've always known him as i can't prove it but i have a strong suspicion that alex calls him that because of the inaccess song that he uses as a bumper coming out of commercials john the revelator put him in an escalator all right all right i would go i think

the revelator uh dan the dan the revelator yeah dan the revelator yeah did deltron thirty thirty deltron thirty thirty and dan the revelator that's what i would have gone with uh it's two thousand three thousand thirty i want y'all to meet deltron zero and john the revelator yeah you think you think you're john the revelators cool because he was two thousand years ahead buddy we're in thirty thirty you ain't got shit on us also the bible didn't predict computers no um this is just a weird interpretation that people have of daniel 12 four which says quote but thou o daniel shut up the words and seal the book even through the time of the end many shall run to and fro and knowledge shall be increased and so that's been turned into by some

prophecy of the coming of computers you know whenever your prophecy is vague enough and vast enough to incorporate literally anything anyone might say two thousand years ago it's a pretty good it's a pretty good prophecy well i mean take a little bit of a step back and like when the mail uh service was uh information could travel it increases saying that shit is the same thing as saying that traffic lights are the greatest form of artificial intelligence that we've ever seen you can't argue with it and argue with it can't argue yep rogan said it was for obvious reasons so i think rosanne has a really interesting perspective and i think it's antithetical to what alex wants people to think sure i think that's an interesting dynamic that never actually comes

to pass on this show but she believes that satan's already lost okay the best thing that people can do is nothing well i mean the book says that he's already lost and that everything that will happen is inevitable and there's nothing you can do to stop it so it would make sense to have that her perspective is very different than alex's like they can both think that the devil is gonna lose right right right but she's like there's nothing you can really do about it yeah because there's nothing you can really do about it alex doesn't want people to think that because he needs them to give him money right but there's nothing you can really do about it otherwise you don't believe the book there's only two ways for the book to work either there's nothing you can do about it or

you don't believe in the book well alex doesn't he needs money oh well that's fair anyway rosanne thinks the devil's already lost okay i agree all this control is an attempt for satan to regain anybody lost but he's already i just want people to know he has already been defeated and god has already won it's just you have to pick your side now what you you this is all about picking the right side it's all about you if you have a sort of weird god you have to pick your side that's what it gets weird and people they've been mind screwed into picking the wrong side and tricked because this the satan is a trickster and you know that's why people are lining up to take a a shot that you know like i'm talking about what it does to people and then and then the news

comes on and and says oh well they don't know why that guy died of a heart attack at age 18 i mean come on you've got to see what's right in front of your face and you have to have the ability the god given ability to look at fact and data what if you were to be confronted with fact and data that showed that you're wrong then you would have to change your perspective right rosanne because you the facts and data are not in her favor the problem i have with this stuff is when they use it it's because after the fact they've realized that all the stuff that they believe is stupid and so they have to then be like oh you see but the reason that it's not stupid is because i focus on facts and data right and you don't yeah right i have empirical evidence like a 18 year old had

a heart attack which has never happened before which is neither fact nor data yeah yeah anecdotes are fact and data to them and that it has an emotional appeal and people are drawn towards that yeah but it's it's you know the same sort of um thing that people fall into a lot there's like i i do my own research is is a character that people take on as opposed to a practice that they engage in and that's the same thing with the like alex and rosanne calling themselves thinkers yeah no you know you're not look at what's in front of your character you're playing look at what's in front of your face excuse me no rosanne and alex please take away those giant weird wallpaper things that you hold directly in front of your face all the time those are shades

move them out of the way look at all the stuff out there look at what's in front of your face now that you don't have a giant wallpaper it's a cocktail now i can deal with it yeah so uh rosanne is blown away by something that alex was talking about earlier on the show sure and i am that's why i'm so blown away today while i was watching your last segment about the data you have compiled about the red states and what what vaccine was sent where this is a campaign of cruelty and death and they did it on purpose they did it on purpose too you know just like the nazis did they study and they decided what demographic didn't suit them because that demographic doesn't buy their bullshit so there have been two big presentations that alex has put out about the

differences between red states and blue states as it relates to covet and their total bullshit these this isn't even new stuff on alex's show this has been a while the first test to do with the higher instances of vaccine side effects as measured by ver's data this is possibly a reflection that people in red states have more vaccine side effects which must mean that the global has sent more deadly vaccines to kill off their ideological enemies or another far more likely explanation is that these people in these states are more likely to be enamored with bullshit covet vaccine conspiracies and self report all kinds of side effects to ver's which would skew the data in the direction of showing more side effects in red states when it actually reflects over reporting

of possibly real possibly imagined side effects yeah it's meaningless yeah it would be it would be a more accurate map to be like uh here's what people believe in these places and this is why the ver's data is different and the um the way the public abuse of uh the understanding of the ver's system has been carried out by these anti-vax funds and it's a self-perpetuating cycle it's it's essentially ruined the ability i don't actually know if it has but i wouldn't be surprised if it's ruined the ability of ver's to be used for what it's for yeah which is to pick up signal information that can then be scrutinized further i i think that i think that the way that people use it is yeah criminal it's probably not completely useless but they have definitely

made it less useful yeah yeah so the second thing i've seen alex cover in this respect is higher rates of excess excess deaths in red states which of course is evidence that the globalists are sending poison vaccines to these states to kill off their ideological enemies or another far more likely explanation is that people in these states were less likely to get vaccinated and died from covid it's like a self-perpetuating cycle yeah or people in predominantly democrat leaning areas were more likely to engage in social distancing and masking and that could attribute to the difference these are actually two data points that are threatening to covet conspiracy narratives but with a little simple recontextualization and emotional storytelling

alex and his ilk are able to twist them into being points that support his conclusions they swift voted them this isn't critical thinking and assessing data this is using numbers as a prop to serve to support your predetermined conclusion which is not what thinkers do yeah i would think that they do explore this a little more deeply but of course they're not no i mean if you were if they were i i suppose if i gave them more credit for creativity i would say that they're utilizing that kind of go for their strengths kind of thing that rove popularized you know that i would taste that guy yeah yeah like don't don't fight them where they're weak take away their strength and then you win all over the place you know sure like so the data points that would be most

obviously damaging you like aha but those are the ones that make me righter yeah yep yep so remember when uh rosanne said that some jews aren't jews she did say that yeah that was a little bit uncomfortable it was she touches on it a little bit more that's not good you know then we have to go real deep into what the bible says about what happened in egypt which i want to talk about too when these people who profess themselves to be jews but are actually anti-jews i really want to talk about that too you got the floor boom tell us well when moses was leading the children of israel according to genesis i mean exodus when he was taking him out you know god told him don't take out this certain class of people that serve pharaoh they were the black magicians and lawyers and

servants they were the lawyer class the judges and such that they were the servant class as we call them like i guess politicians like we have right now uh and they were jewish the managerial class for the elite yes and uh there there's a name that god gave him and it was era brav which means good teachers of bad information when you break it down that's my that's probably said they're smart they're they're good teachers what they teach bad that's my interpretation i don't want to touch on any of that stuff because i i don't know what she's talking about nope no no clue it's interesting that roseanne says that this is just her interpretation that these folks are called quote good teachers of bad information because if you google that specific phrase there

is one result oh now i'm not happy that is a boring conspiracy vlog on bit shoot which has a bunch of comments one including that phrase from an account named the only roseanne bar this may or may not actually be her but it's interesting that the only place the term comes up in a search is a comment section from an account that purports to be her um that is that is the funniest of all like that's the funniest cross reference that you could possibly have it's all i got that's just the funniest possible way to prove that that is the roseanne bar like the other day the other day look at donchich was uh he was on he was online he's a he's a gamer right so he's playing some game and uh some dude is interacting with him and he's like hey do

you play basketball and look at donchich is like yeah for who uh you guys play directly or whatever he's like dallas mavericks they're like what yes i think that might that account might be her yeah that does seem like her they've posted no videos uh it's a three-year-old account though named the only roseanne bar so would have been probably the time where she was looking for other accounts to make since she couldn't use ones that she already had yeah that might have been right around the time that she got kicked off uh twitter for calling valerie jared a monkey it does seem it does seems very similar so anyway it matches up alex starts talking about how the globalists are enemy or uh uh aliens yeah excuse me and that's what the globalists can't help everything

they do hurts people everything they teach is bad they know the knowledge they know how to empower people why would you want to hurt people unless an alien force satan is wants to hurt us because we're made the image of god he's jealous of us bingo but jealous i wrote this book called roseanne archie and and uh you know of course nobody buy it even though i went on oprah and sucked her ass they had only sold 5 000 copies well we'll get we'll we'll sell 50 000 copies well anyways thanks out and you don't have to suck ass your support it's a weird weird way to you know say that i went on the view or i went on oprah or whatever sucked a little ass oh so that's bad she sold 5 000 copies of a book that's not good that's not good she did not have access to that weird machine of right wing

people who just buy up loads of books that put them in secondhand stores yeah ha you know as i'm just throwing this out there as a person if i were someone like roseanne yeah it was like the queen of the world basically at a certain point in time yes truly and then i ended up writing a book that sold 5 000 copies i might swing to the right to ah yeah that's a good point i might be like this is this career is not working out that shit is easy over there i don't really start somewhere yeah the great reset i would i would prefer i i don't understand why so many times when alex is describing god the creator of the universe he describes to them the emotional abilities of an asshole it's petty shit yeah oh god god's lonely yeah what hell exists because god was like oh man

i'm bored oh man i'm jealous of satan so i'm gonna do that what are we doing yeah i think it again speaks to his lack of creativity or ability to like look outside of himself god is just me but he's uh you know more powerful yeah so roseanne wrote this book rose anarchy mm-hmm which is a fine portmanteau it's not bad um but uh there's apparently a pardon that that i did not expect to hear i wrote that book to help deprogram kids from the harry potter bullshit but anyway because my did you into that but anyways at the end i wrote this chapter called the end wherein i kill satan and i tell you how to do it and i'll just give you the at the end how you do it is when you feel empathy he can't be there because he hates that that's what christ did exactly whatever exactly bingo

bingo bingo explain it i'm interrupting explain it no you explain it no you don't so she killed the devil she killed the devil i mean that was honestly that was really nice of her because now i don't need to read the book yeah no wonder she only sold five thousand copies yeah huh just giving the end away only more people have got that the devil would be even more dead are you telling me that rose anarchy is actually about deprogramming kids off of harry potter i would not of all the things that i would expect the title rose anarchy to lead to that was not one of them what about killing the devil see that more apt at least under rose anarchy as opposed to like hey listen this harry potter kid you got to keep your eye out for him i don't think i don't

think either really track from the title no that's fair i would have thought it would be a political system devoid of leaders you would she's describing either that or a political system with her as the leader the only leader of all political systems with no leadership well this is rosean this would not be anarchistic then right no it'd be rose anarchistic uh anyway the thought i guess of like deprogramming kids from harry potter sure uh leads alex into like a kind of thought process about like how we're how are we gonna reach the lost okay and there is an interesting vibe that rose an has that is kind of like fuck them okay all right i'll take that she has kind of a mentality of like anybody who's not awake doesn't need to be and they shouldn't be who gives a shit i appreciate

that i appreciate that well yeah because it belies a lack of evangelism which i think it is one of the more annoying parts of people like alex this need to force their own um like bizarre world view on other people whereas rosean is kind of like i'm just gonna have this drink over here and uh believe nonsense yeah i don't need to evangelize to you you don't need to believe the thing that i believe or whatever yeah i believe abortion is evil but you know what go for it i'm gonna have a cocktail we that's fine but alex wants to know how do you reach out to these how well they can feel that they lost before so satan wants to claw us down to the pit with him and so that's where i mean we see it and the enemy knows they've lost they're trying to take as many with us as they can

how do we reach out because you know the lost sheep it was great a lot of folks are awake i think their main jobs be waking up others but when people are already turned over to evil when do you give up like how do you decide i'm gonna try to wake this person up but this person's too far gone or you try to wake them all up or what do you do here's what you gotta know where's our f and booze i got exactly what you want right here as you said on this jewish holiday people are supposed to drink right yeah because well i mean if it's a religious thing i'll do it because wine talked me into it because wine is wine and alcohol is uh you know in moderation don't go all crazy always in moderation because joy lived in our

spirits and joy is a great weapon against the satan too because he hates joy he don't even know what that is f him f him yeah let's drink to get rid of the devil all right okay who what a day what a day how do you reach out to the lost where's the f and booze elix pulls out a full bottle of jamison from under his desk of course he does why would he struggle finding that yeah good god yep that is that is maybe one of the most irresponsible things i've ever i've ever heard on a broadcast how so i mean i just can't i i just mean like you i i think of another show where apropos of nothing someone can just say where's the booze where's the fucking booze and then someone else just brings a jamison bottle out from beneath

their desk yeah on television you know what i never i never really think about this that much because i don't know again i'm an adult sure sure sure um but like there is a chance that there are kids watching we know there are kids well in the past there have been but who knows how how much there is like a youth viewership fair fair you know when you talk about corrupting the youth and like they have all these fears that people in drag will somehow ruin children's lives or something i think it's uh you know irresponsible to just have this kind of a free flowing like where's the fucking booze kind of kind of thing i don't know maybe look maybe look at that alex i mean as far as i hold these bizarre standards for everybody else i'll tell you this dan as far as

this show being a family show goes i i don't think your parents would let you watch it on account of it does not promote uh good family behaviors no no i i will say that while there were a number of things that i wish i had watched perhaps sure that were uh not allowed in my family there were also a lot of things that uh you saved me from yeah that would have been yeah um so yeah they're drunk good show good show it does not help the energy really see that's the thing that really bums me out is so far this has been stilted and garbage and you i mean i would at least expect a couple of drinks to liven things up a bit i don't think this is rosanne's first drink well that i agree with yeah there we go and also it's one in the afternoon so it's not alex's first

drink either probably not here's effing satan go to hell satan yeah go back to whench you came but here's what people don't know about satan because they've been tricked okay they've been people now give us the esoteric jewish secrets i certainly am my friend all right let me get my sip and this man take your time and asking you know asking for connection and the right words absolutely god almighty created him he created it didn't let nobody tell you that he's as powerful as god because he ain't he never will be don't let nobody give you that treat did anybody see that's a lot of how they

control you you know all these satanic cults that's what they tell the kids that's what they tell the kids and all the satanic cults that satan is as powerful as god all these satanic cults everywhere okay i mean of all the things that i know it's the number one issue in the country right now i've just i i didn't i didn't know yeah i didn't know well now you do that was i i don't like it when somebody tells me that they have that i've been tricked over something and they are very conspiratorial about it and then it turns out it's something that i think everyone already knows well according to the you know the lore yeah yeah you know god created i mean that's the whole thing and yeah obviously the antagonist yeah just powerful as the yeah and it doesn't mean it doesn't matter you

can go back to job you can do you can do jesus in the desert you can do you can do the book you can do john the revelator and put him in the escalator yeah elevator can't remember elevator i think something that goes up yeah yeah yeah you could do it all but the whole point of all of it is that god created everything and that includes the assholes true so rosanne now that she's gotten a little bit of that whiskey in her sure a little a little fortifying juice a little texas fire in the mouth now she has one of i think the worst thoughts that she has okay i'm gonna straighten all this out for people thank you um but god did create him and what people don't know is that there is a he has a reason to exist and that is he has his followers and his hordes you know

they've been set loose on people and what is that for because a lot of people here well they ain't even people alex what are the clones a lot of the robots they don't what looks like people they don't even have souls oh you know what i mean oh i know i know what they're like apparitions that we create with what what i believe with our own evil thoughts and deeds we create an apparition that comes at us it's called a golem that we create that later turns on us because of the evil thoughts and deeds that we do we created those people and jr and choking tolkien describes that exactly what shut the fuck up no evil side that we will operate yeah no yeah fuck off and that's that's golem yeah what are you talking about um look leaving a lot of the bullshit to the side

let's leave a lot of a lot of it there is an idea that roseanne is expressing here yeah that is a lot of people aren't people yeah what they are are manifestations of your negative thoughts do you think that manifestations of your negative thoughts deserve the same kind of rights or respect or dignity that humans do yeah because this is the line of thinking that is very readily accessible from there yeah that means dehumanizing basically of people that you just choose to decide our manifestations of your negative thoughts you know fucked up you know maybe maybe ultimately that is the one free speech law we really should have is like whatever it is you do you cannot claim another human being is not a human being because ultimately isn't that the first

point for i mean every every genocide is the beginning is those people are not human you are i agree i agree with you that it is um the first step down the most dangerous rhetorical road i think dehumanizing language um is uh it is a justifying of horrific things um but i don't know how you legislate that i don't know how i don't know how that works in practice yeah and then you have to come up with all kinds of things of like well what if we do end up having clones sure can you say that a clone isn't a person right right or whatever you have all kinds of weirdos who will get into those like right abstract futuristic what if cases right and i don't want to talk to them well they're going to talk to you right but i would like to

i would like to solve the genocide problem first and then we can worry about clones i agree with you in as much as that kind of idea being expressed should be taken far more seriously than a lot of other things it should be viewed as a like intervention point at the very like maybe not illegal but it should be something where if you are dehumanizing another human being it should the world should stop and educate you on what happens next definitely especially when it's surrounding dehumanizing classes of people certainly that's um one uh uh very big red flag races religions anything yeah but then also what rosanne here is doing is giving you carte blanche to choose whoever you want to dehumanize uh based on i guess disagreement yeah

well i mean if somebody is disagreeing with you then the only person who would really disagree with you is you and therefore if they're disagreeing with you they're a manifestation of your own insecurity and so the only way to overcome them is to metaphorically and literally kill them now what's sneaky about it is what look like bosh bosh indeed so um alex discusses his uh past with satanism and this is dumb when i was growing up i was a nice young child and then i became a teenager um i never got into actual devil worship but i i could definitely start dialing into that energy and i i i had a lot of power but it was only if i was hurting people i never really got all the way into it maybe this is you worked out a lot but i see that was god

using my own free will because if i hadn't skated on the edge of that i wouldn't have the understanding on it it's so you can master it and so you can exercise and get it out like it says you know pluck it out it's so you can learn to grow your soul because the soul can grow i know he's lying about it but according to alex during that time in his life he killed multiple people yep so i guess according to rosa and those murders were just things alex needed to do in order to grow his soul you need to possibly oh this doesn't even really matter because those folks probably weren't even people they were just projections of alex's negative thoughts so they wasn't even a really murder that's why he grew out of it because if he didn't they were challenges

metaphorical and literal murder were both important in this circumstance hey a hundred percent i yep oh boy now there is a test to see if you have a soul i i i mean i boy i just wish people would not just don't talk about your theology just don't do it you're just because then you're gonna wind up here sooner or later dude i don't even know if this is theology exactly exactly because you're gonna wind up drunk idiots if you start talking you're gonna wind up talking shit that i bet she probably doesn't even believe this if you scratch your heart enough uh she'd be like eh you know what you're right and then she'd go home and she'd continue believing it no one cares maybe i don't know yeah but anyway there's a test to see if you have a soul

okay a lot of people don't know if they have a soul but here's how you know can you change because only someone with a soul can change quick chop off your finger we have free will if you have a soul we're not a robot as the left tells us you're just a robot no we're not because the soul can grow and people who cannot change they are messengers what's the word for another word is angels good and bad but they're here to tempt the souls to choose which side they're gonna go on that's one way of looking at it certainly is one way i don't think i would cover this if it wasn't rosa yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't do this nope nope if this wasn't like a very big interview that alex had yeah i think i i mean i've gotten personal messages from people as well as like

tweets from folks that are like i'm not gonna watch this because you guys got to cover it you know like that kind of stuff i've heard people be like this was nuts yeah you know i think i probably would just be like yeah like if this was a project camelot episode i'd probably like i don't feel great about this yeah but it's alex interviewing a gigantic celebrity that's presumably out of his orbit right you know right maybe not ideologically but in terms of celebrity yeah yeah generally speaking um but this is upsetting i appreciate that like uh alex was like yeah left calls us robots 15 minutes after she was like everybody you don't believe in is a robot or a clothes or a negative projection of your mind yeah exactly like i i please don't tell me what i do

when you did it five minutes ago that's not fair i don't really believe that the left calls everyone robots i don't believe they call anybody robots i think this is all made up yeah so maybe we're in purgatory eh well on earth currently watching somebody that i looked up to do this yeah i think it's a little hellish that's purgatory isk well roseann believes that we're in hell oh well that's fair i think in our type of level we all know this is a test what is your description of this to mention where we are is it a purgatory is it a test how would you quantify that i always say how would you quantify that this is hell where we came to pay for something we did but we have the sparks of god in us as it says that uh the sparks of soul are within us and we're supposed to set

them ablaze we're supposed to make a big ass fire out of them that's why our holiest day is called log bow mare and it's a day of bonfires i think of the idea that this is hell and that we're here to atone for some unspecified past life crime precludes the possibility that any of us actually have free will yeah if our existence is predicated on something that happened in a past life and we're only alive as punishment for that then it's a pretty bleak picture sadder than what i hear from most satanists if i'm being honest yeah also log bow mare is a day of celebration and Judaism but it is not the most holy day the only way for that to be true for would be for rosanta subscribe to some kind of a subsect of Judaism that does consider it the most holy day i don't

know of any that do but one that would would be a very particular type of Judaism i think i'm not an expert in any of this so i'm just kind of pulling its straws here so i mean what i mean here is that log bow mare is the celebration is largely seen as the anniversary of the death of simian ben yokai who's a major figure within cabala he's often erroneously cited as the author of the zohar i don't know for sure but the overemphasizing of log bow mare leads me to suspect that rosanne may be a follower of a more mystical branch of Judaism which is fine but it should be a huge problem for alex yeah but i guess it's not because rosanne's a celebrity who will talk to him i guess alex also could be aware of that like if he knows that if he explores it to all his

audience will be super pissed off yeah don't don't explore too much of that like from your perspective as a esoteric person uh yeah uh wait i have used this to scapegoat things when i need to talk to nazis no kidding um yeah it's very it's very bizarre to me i don't know yeah i just what's the point of having a bonfire though what's the point of having a book if you're not going to read it or say what it says i just don't understand what's the point of doing an interview with alex and saying he's a hero of yours if you don't know what he actually talks about that's a great point there is no point none of this makes sense it's a waste of everybody's time dude by the end of this that is what i come away with anyway let's discuss free will

what is the trick to give people to never be conscious and join evil without knowing it that seems to be the devil's trick because when you actually pull back god gives us prosperity and freedom and happiness and family all these good things everything evil gives us is destructive and is is is worthless why would you even join it people think they have free will but they don't really you can only order what's on the menu alex what that's almost like a calvinistic view like predestination yeah you can only get what's on the menu one you think you can only get what's on the menu i guess but i mean so why did god do that because people from particular families tend to go certain ways people from evil families tend to go the other way what there's different

things but it does seem like it's you have free will but they're but it's kind of pre-banked into the cake there's free will but it's kind of determined that it's like okay here free will but you're gonna do this no you just get what's on the menu you can choose so these two are real thinkers having completely different conversations with each other without realizing it damn they're not talking about similar ideas at all you should have told me to get way higher yeah you should have been like jordan in order to sit through this conversation you need to be out of your gourd thankfully i have this bottle of jameson please yay so rosa is trying to express that there's a limitation on free will and as much as you can really only choose the things that are options on

the menu she slips into small point which alex talks over and she doesn't get to expand on which is that if you if you think the only options are what's on the menu then you can only choose from the menu which implies that she actually doesn't believe that the metaphorical menu is a limitation of free will only a perception people have uh that they need to push past if they push past the menu then the options open up but if you accept the menu then you only have those choices right insert bong sound right meanwhile alex is exploring one of his favorite theories namely that there's a genetic basis to whether or not a person is good or evil he's expressed many times an inclination that he has to believe that evil families create evil people in good families

create good people he's basically a spiritual eugenicist yeah neither of them realizes the angle the other has on free will and they're just saying their own dumb thoughts to each other yeah this is a pointless interview which is really just too idiot's drinking and talking shit yeah i would i mean i'm waiting for them to just like set a garbage can up like 10 feet away and just start tossing rolled up bundles of paper in there as they're just like yeah free will is crazy oh that one was close bong sound yeah it there should be a black light absolutely this is so fucking boring wait i did cut out the clip where she's like how does a lot of lamp work oh my god that didn't happen i wish it did i have to clarify yeah you have to do you understand dan

you have to clarify yeah because anything that didn't happen yes so rosanne has a thought that alex should throw something at her for sure but mysteriously he doesn't i think that we were put here to grow and to learn and to develop our skills to be godlike because he of course wants us to be infinite beings i don't believe that he put us here just to die and shrivel up i think he wants us to figure out how we can live forever and i do believe science is on the verge of that now that we will be immortal which that is just a reflection of how powerful we are that we can physically hold things together the third dimension when it's already been done in the higher dimensions alex talks all the time about this pursuit of immortality being in the front

on god it's evil to pursue immortality that's what the ultimate elitists want to do right right yep so you're saying that you brought in a west coast celebrity who's coming on your show trying to tell you about eternal infinite life wait till she accidentally endorses communism yeah no kidding so she also has a really interesting idea here that i is completely wrong okay but fascinating all right that's all i'm saying we have the power to change everything with a decision to not do it anymore to not hold up those structures of babel on anymore just to let them fall i mean just to let them fall you know i ran for president in 2012 and i found out because i wanted to find out how it works you know and i did find out that if less

than 30 of the people vote and i'm not advocating this but then they have to call it not an election but they never tell us that well let me ask you a big picture which is really the little picture kind of the five foot view so the 30 000 foot view what do you expect with with with with ukraine yeah good not yet good shift the topic alex because uh that is definitely not true i i mean the people you know they never tell us that because it's not true i would like i i i i genuinely am flabbergasted by the idea that you would think that rule made sense to anyone yeah hey 30 of the people didn't vote no only under 30 under 30 percent voted so yeah so no doesn't count not an election we're just going to stick with the government we have until everybody does it over

yeah and then you have to just keep doing it yeah although i do i do think that we should pretend that this is true yeah because then as an act of rebellion maybe all these people wouldn't vote but then again that's disenfranchising and i don't support that yeah but it the only thought that you can have if you believe that's the case yeah and you're following the train of thought that she's going down is like maybe we should all just not vote and then overthrow the system that way i i genuinely speaking if that were true i'd be fine without voting well but i would be happy to get under 30 just to see what the fuck everybody do if that were true the the types of communities that we've run in in our lives the activist types and protesters and stuff

it would be a singular obsession of a lot of people that i've known in my life were it true but it is not it is just some weird thing that someone told rosanne when she apparently ran for president in 2012 damn and then wrote rosanne archie where she learned how to kill the devil just think about what somebody would okay i'm not talking about rosanne believing this fine whatever believe whatever you want sure think about if this were real what was the person's mind like in that constitutional congress going like was it one guy in the back trying to sneak it in there real quick just like hey this will be fun what if this happens and then you just drops it in where does that come from well it is it is an interesting idea too because if you're

having a lower threshold of voting then why not just have compulsory voting yeah you know like if that is the case like if a certain amount of people are specifically required to vote right then i mean the the thought spirals very quickly too like well it's just a mandate voting yeah so then but so why would you put that in there that that can only be in there if you think that there's some sneaky way to exploit the possibility of less than 30 of the population voting in order to then do something it is a purely sneak based rule well what you what you're failing to take into account is that in uh those days uh there was a high prevalence of weirdos that's fair that is fair a lot of strange ideas that is fair did you um i think i heard you make a court of

heaven joke earlier there was a there was a reminiscence of the court of heaven wherein the golem is following behind you snake snatching on you again well um here is where you uh become a witch okay i wanted to say that the real reason satan was invented is because in the upper court of god wow guess who the prosecuting attorney turns out to get the fuck out of here satan no he goes to god and says i need these are bad see get the shit out of here that's why he wants us to do sins and create wicked dimensions he wants us to do sins and then he and then he brings us before the court of heaven and says here are where their sins and here's what i got him to do so in effect you don't get away with nothing and you that's what's crazy as satan is described as the prosecutor

wow this is a fucking entrapment game yeah that's all of human existence is an entrapment game yep okay if i'm ever gonna subscribe to a religion and take on a deity i'm not gonna choose this one for a few reasons for a few the first is what you brought out weird there's an entrapment racket and god's complicit in it yeah the second is that there's no reason to have a court if god is god then they already know the outcome before any case is heard so the only reason to have this pageant is to be sadistic toward the person on trial yeah this is just a show trial meant to torture you into thinking that you have a chance to plead your case and it allows you to pretend that there's some kind of a fair process that you're involved in or even more terrifyingly imagine the alternative

god doesn't know the outcome and there's a chance that you could be a real piece of shit but so good at arguing that you convince god to let you into heaven the devil throws up his hands and like well i guess this guy beat me the whole fabric of morality is demolished and the only thing that matters is rhetorical ability yeah simultaneously it introduces the possibility that god can be tricked which is a nonsensical idea on its face it's either that grim reality or god has decided that when you die you get to be the subject of a show trial that's only meant to be cruel those are two shitty options yeah also if satan is the prosecutor do you get a defense attorney how do you pass the bar in heaven or do you have to go pro se that doesn't seem fair

particularly considering that you don't know the laws of heaven and the judge and prosecutor have known each other since the beginning of time and the judge created the prosecutor just gotta be a conflict of interest there is definitely something going on this is bad due process you get an appeal can you appeal the case it is like this is what would result if your god was lonely jealous and fucking uh apparently disappointed all the time in you for doing the things that you created somebody to make them do can you post bail what if you're a waiting trial in heaven can you go to have i want to go back to no no no on bail you can't go to heaven on bail okay because the trial happens outside the gates can you go back to earth you can go back

to earth okay yeah that's why so many people here aren't people they're just ghosts they're ghosts awaiting trial dude is that what near-death experiences are totally you go back you go back yeah absolutely they're like hold on hold on at no no no near-death experiences are a mistrial okay hung jury yeah absolutely when god is the only hey is there a jury i know is there a jury i assume so it's all twelve apostles that's what it's based off of very dumb yep so anyway i like macadamia nuts and so does rosa okay and i grow pineapples non sequitur but interest and i got like two thousand mac nut trees and i'm i'm glad to talk about this too because the macadamia nut is a gift of god and i believe that might have been what mana was in the desert i i have it in

my mind it could have been because it macadamia nuts in the desert that nut is the perfect protein that it has the exact amount of fats and protein to nourish the brain and i have it all over the ground in holly because it costs too much to shell it twice and then you know that's why they're so expensive but this is the most perfect food for the human being that you know i i believe it's just the perfect food that could solve world hunger right now if they figure out a well that's the thing the globalists are openly creating as many problems as they can because they're scared of this jump point we're about to achieve we'll have free energy unlimited power unlimited life even the third dimension god's given us so much power that our soul is eternal but now it's about

to be eternal even in this third dimension that's the reflection of that eternity is so powerful it's about to create immortality here now well i'm that's the higher dimensions invading the lower dimensions alex doesn't give a shit about macadamia nuts i wanted to honestly this was the first time i was interested because i was like i kind of want to learn more about macadamia nuts i don't know that much about macadamia nuts yeah alex is like i'm going to talk about something else i of all things i wanted out of that religion was that i was like sweet we're off religion and we're on to nuts no it's cute that roseanne thinks that macadamia nuts were mana in the bible but it's just not possible no that plant was only indigenous to australia

prior to the late 1800s when it was first imported to hawaii mana was the food that israelites sustained themselves on when they were in the desert after leaving egypt and the area just wouldn't have had macadamia nuts also the biblical descriptions of mana sound nothing like macadamia nuts like how mana was the size of coriander seeds and quote looked like resin also quote when the dew settled on the camp at night the mana also came down in exodus it says quote morning by morning they gathered it each as much as he could eat but when the sun grew hot it melted doesn't sound like macadamia nuts i i do love the idea of a god uh of israel who is like listen my people need me and i've got this macadamia nut farm in australia so i think it's all working out i'm gonna import that shit yeah

exactly um so yeah also here's where uh roseanne accidentally is kind of getting into uh maybe a commune kind of living and if you pay close attention i believe she even catches herself almost saying communes yeah yeah what does it look like to live in a perfect community that works for all the people where all the kids are safe and i think about that all the time so in hawaii it's a bunch of commune a bunch of farms income and everybody grows and things that are needed for the community small groups of people all work the land together really well and uh i share everything with no others everybody should start thinking about that now yeah each according to their needs what is the point why why why why don't even talk to each other i think it works

really well don't even talk to each other just hold up signs and then put dots on your bingo card alex should be furious about this kind of idea but he's not no so um alex earlier asked about ukraine and there wasn't really an answer but right it comes back up a little bit and alex is a big old liar how did they not know that oh the russians are losing now they're really ready to go to war like like how do you not know human nature like it's like it's not human i can tell you right now i said it a year ago when it started i said they're going to beat the russians up front and russians are going to double down it's wow well they want an escalation because that's a part of depopulation and also war is a great cover for stealing kids everything and let's talk about that

they are living there everything is about that i i called it the pedo ponzi pyramid talk about it their currency is innocence of children because children are connected to god and if they can torture a child that pisses god off and and sticks a knife in god's leg well and and that's what it is is they want to torture god and that's why they want to hurt children is that correct they hate life they're necrophages christ i got to say there's nothing we need less in the world right now than two drunk idiots complaining about how everyone they don't like is a pedophile trying to hurt kids in order to torture god right it's beyond worthless get the fuck out however i wanted to play that clip because alex is again repeating his completely fraudulent story about his predictions

about ukraine we know because we listen to it and have a memory that alex said that the war would be over in a few days and the pudin had paid off the ukrainian military and zolensky to stand down in case you didn't hear that here is alex saying that zolensky was a russian double agent on february 24th 2022 but that's why you're not seeing any real ukrainian resistance because it was all for show and the comedian hollywood president was a double agent the whole time oh yeah that's what all the smart money is on that's what all the experts i know and i'm an expert myself no and so pudin's fighting a war he already won before he pulled the trigger and that's why we're info wars dot com tomorrow's news today looks bad in hindsight seems like it

he doubled down on that the next day and said on february 25th 2022 that the war would be over within 48 hours i mean look at this reuters article that's out right now all right is that bloomberg putin calls on ukrainian military to seize power to better negotiate with russia because he knows it's a bunch of globalist factions in there and a bunch of former presidents jockeying for control he's like listen i'll negotiate with the military which is a very smart move i would expect this to be over in 48 hours what do you think obviously it's beating a dead horse to say that alex is full of shit and a liar but i want to stress uh this for a reason so we can highlight a dynamic of how alex lies in order for what he's saying in the present to be taken

seriously alex needs to make sure that no one remembers how stupid the things he said before have been luckily whatever audience he has has no interest in questioning the things he says so he can get away with what he's doing right here alex is creating a narrative about his past statements and beliefs which his audience will then accept as the gospel version of what happened the more alex repeats that he said this ukrain thing uh he he took it he had it perfect the more the audience will nod along with that and the more they'll use it as an example of the times that hashtag alex jones was right meanwhile they're just parroting the bullshit that alex uh needs to feed them to save his own ass from his own past actions essentially what alex is doing is demanding

that the audience accept a complete fiction about his own body of work in service of making it easier for him to get them to accept future fictions that he sells them but here's the irony he's using this fictitious telling of the past in order to get them to accept the next time that he says something like my sources tell me zolensky is a russian double agent which the audience will eventually be forced to pretend alex never said in service of the facilitating his next lie right in many ways alex's lies are a cycle of abuse that he has his listeners trapped in it's really sad that they can't see the forest or the trees and recognize that he's just lying to them to steal their money and make them hate groups of people that he doesn't like in society yeah it's very sad yeah yeah it's

a little bit it's pretty transparent if you actually pay attention sorry oh yeah um but yeah it's a little bit like a ponzi scheme of bullshit like people are always putting bullshit in there and he's passing it around doing that whole thing but the bullshit is it's nothing it's it's not real it's nothing it's fake yeah and then i called i i i was a hundred percent right from the beginning on this ukrain stuff so you should believe me about other things i say that i'll demand you pretend i didn't say in the future so long such a vicious cycle so long as your audience allows you to retcon yourself to be hashtag alex jones was right yeah you are always alex jones was right yeah and i just think that there's something so hilarious about that clip of him saying that

zelenski was a double agent all along ending with tomorrow's news today i mean it's so fucking on i mean it's two on the nose it's parody yeah yeah yeah and it's it is so much like everything you hear alex say you should take as something that he will eventually have to pretend he didn't say yeah because otherwise you won't be able to do whatever he wants to do today or tomorrow exactly because everyone will be like no you're fucking wrong all the time all the time so anyway rosanne says something kind of cute that's funny because look at look at uh look at how they say like i said oh i went from domestic goddess to domestic terrorist i guess because i've never been somebody who's uh for killing kids in the womb or out you know they said that she was a domestic

goddess as a joke yeah that was um that was branding yeah because she wasn't yeah yeah that was the idea is that she was putting that idea on its head yeah thereby giving people the chance to express themselves in a different way than they would be normally allowed to in society yeah but it is a cute turn of phrase it is i went from domestic goddess to domestic terrorist i mean it's not bad yeah so i think it works better for uh uh oh shit now i can't remember her name insider training uh uh martha stewart martha stewart yes that domestic terrorism though no but i mean it works better she is a widely recognized domestic goddess yes that is true yeah and she did go to actual jail yeah i'll work on it okay thank you the turn of phrase thank you

but for now i have to give props to rosanne yes because she has a really good point all right two weeks ago i played soros he had an announcement in germany it's like an hour long but he literally can't even talk now but he doesn't know when to give up he's just up there like bumbling around well he doesn't have a soul you can tell that that's not the good point can't you yeah exactly so i want to say this i don't hate george soros he's he's gone he whatever maybe he was a human at some point i forgive him not because i'm even supporting what he did i'm against we did but i think god does want us to just realize he's a fallen human that we couldn't save and he's a loss here's what i say to him and i say it to all the billionaires there because you know you

can't be a billionaire without hurting a lot of people yeah there's no way nailed it but to all the billionaires out there you could with your money you could save every kid on this planet and help us turn it into heaven you don't need all that money and uh if you would do that and help people instead of hurt them we would gladly welcome you back into the fold of human beings and you would be a hero too and you would get so much love and acceptance and people would just marvel at you and exactly we're trying to give them amnesty that's what you want and so you know do the right thing and and ask god to forgive you and after that happens you know you will make amends to the human beings you've harmed and you can come back with us and we'll have a lot of fun

hey guess what dumb dumb they don't care what you think i i mean like it's yes you she understands that billionaires don't become billionaires without hurting tons of people right and then is appealing to some sense of decency to get them to give up all their money to save everyone yeah they don't give a fuck they don't care what you think like and you are a big celebrity of all of all people rosanne you are closer to a billionaire than you ever will be to me so i i understand where you're coming from however when you had the height of your money when you had millions of dollars coming in yeah because you have one of the highest rated shows on television per episode you're making millions of dollars did you give it all up so people would love you she might have

given some to charity i understand that i understand that and and it is it's a difference of scale and she probably paid her taxes which is really that's a huge difference conversation needs to be yeah it could be it's fucking billionaires need to be taxed heavily they need to have their money taken it's the only tenable solution because that is evening the playing field they make this exorbitant amount of money through exploiting us and as a result we tax them at a very high rate to pay for things that offset the damage of the exploitation that facilitated their wealth exactly this is not an arrangement that they're going to enter into willingly because they love being super rich and they understand that they had to hurt people to get to where they are they loved it yes

it was the joy of the game or at least it's an acceptable part of it right and it's not like you're going to appeal to somebody's sense of decency right unless they're already inclined to do that and in that case they are already and billionaires we know we're not inclined to do that because whenever that started happening to them they were like oh that's not good so they will put a lot of government in order to deregulate themselves so they could continue to to make all that money and hurt all those people alex and rosanne's solution seems to be that they're going to whine about how these billionaires should give up their money willingly and while they don't rosanne and alex will dehumanize them and say that they have no souls and aren't human to the

point where i guess they'll just end up having people support killing the rich i mean if a rich person could willingly hand over some wealth and still be super rich and by doing so like they would save a hundred lives and at certain points hard to distinguish the choice to not do that to not give up some of their money from like actively being a participant in killing those hundred people if this is the game that you want to play no that's the game that's the argument you just made but that but the the real i mean it's a sound argument that's the problem well fine but take that you can take that off the table by taxing these fucking people sure in an appropriate and effective way right right right right the question is is that on the table and the answer seems to be

no for them not for alex and rosanne no no no somehow that is unacceptable right but whatever like sitting around and saying that like oh oh you billionaires should like give your money up willingly is in effect committing yourself to not solving the problem yeah yeah yeah 100 so that's where we are but i like i said i gotta give it up to her that she at least recognizes that there is no accumulation of wealth on that level without harm yeah yeah and i appreciate that she recognizes that because that's not something that alex would ever no all right say on his own yeah i mean this is a place where you cannot ask for them to be of all things that are verboten asking billionaires to not make money is the greatest of all hey man alex doesn't shame

people for being rich nope no he doesn't anyway rosanne does hate billionaires good including yay good you don't get a billion dollars without screwing over innumerable amounts of people you just don't you know that's why i one thing that bugs me about conye or yay whatever hey talk about being a billionaire conye where where are their children sewing them clothes come on man you you've got a billion dollars or had it isn't moral to have a billion dollars well i'm not even attacking yay over having money but my issue was i talked to him and i said i want to come on talk about love he was yelling about love and he got here in a mask and did this whole hitler thing and i want to hey hitler blew up pollin that did nothing like let's just believe

your postulation that jews are able to hurt me kill i don't agree with that it's wrong but what about pollin didn't have an answer oh boy great i mean he did come on and talk about love about his love of hitler yeah i also like how they're missing the point of i i this episode was supposed to be about joy did they remember that this episode is about joy well it came up when they were pouring the whiskey yeah it was very joyful then and then somehow it devolved into everybody i don't like as a pedophile yeah what a joyful episode maybe some people aren't real maybe they're not even real yep yeah so me and rosanne agree on another thing that is that moana is good that's what they're really afraid of is that we remember our connection to the divine

who we are that we remember who we are and um oh they hate that so bad because then that would it's like in that movie moana i love that movie i've seen it so many times where she gives the heart back to taffiti and suddenly everything dead blooms again and comes back to life did you see that movie i love that movie it's funny that disney did it it was creep me out really that disney did it but uh that's a whole other subject yeah maybe maybe like the blanket all these companies are evil and trying to indoctrinate your kids into satanism and all this stuff maybe maybe like when you see moana and it's a really great movie yeah and you're like wow it's weird that that satanist inducting company made this movie maybe that you should

take a step back and think maybe my perception is wrong yeah maybe i'm gonna throw this out there sometimes a cigar is just a cigar it is not a dick sometimes it's not a dick i mean moana's good yep hey hey i love that chicken that's a good movie yeah so anyway three years ago alex had a vision um but also this vision is something that he said he had as a kid in past episodes that i don't believe any of this bullshit sounds good absolutely well i i can tell you a story going back about three years ago i was under major attack and but i always thought i kid was strong enough to do it again god's there and god supports me but i'm strong enough oh god bye bye bye who gives the shit about that really deep experience experiences

and like given knowledge i couldn't even understand and things and i said god give me peace to be strong let me really see what it is i never really prayed for something i always said what's your will god but i didn't say prayers uh will you show me what it is and give me the knowledge and i remember a couple weeks up or said that prayer every day i had a series of dreams and i know the different feelings it's like a different flavor you've never tasted you finally tasted new flavor you go god i've never had that new flavor this was in this experience was 100 real i could even see the angel that was like it was there behind me showing me the universe and other civilizations and things that happened and how it works and everything just total knowledge

downloaded like feeling totally complete not ecstasy it was beyond ecstasy it was like timelessness like i'm good forever this is a good spot right here but then well i got a curiosity i want to look into what happened here why this happened and i could see like civilizations that destroyed themselves and individuals that did they were like walled up tombs god gave what they wanted they were their own little little thing it was like old men just sifting sand forever like they weren't even they were cut off from god they wanted to be god and it was so powerful and i said can i just stay here can i know you you've got stuff to do but you're already here and then it happened again and i got a little touch up again but that feeling is undoubtedly

outside my body there's no connection to anything ever experienced like that because it's so intense you can't even it's it's so intense you're done it's like you're just like i am complete this is absolute connection to everything there's no time it's like i'm i'm i'm here and that is what the enemy knows they've cut off from yeah they get to go against god yeah they get to do bad things yeah they get to play god but they've been cut off from that i know you mean alex has talked about that kind of a vision and stuff happening when he was a kid yeah like this is i don't i don't believe any of this shit but we have reached the point of drunk where we're talking about visions and yeah yeah we're getting there dreams and stuff yeah so alex tells this story and i don't believe

there's anything meaningful in it or anything no but uh rosanne says i know what you mean totally and this leads into her talking about a vision that she had and i do think that this is a bit more meaningful okay and it makes me super uncomfortable because she does end up crying in the middle of it but i do think that there's something kind of poignant and actually i i think there's something worth listening to here have you felt that yes when i was three i felt at first when i was three years old i was in my grandmother's bathroom and i grew up in an apartment house my grandparents in salt lake city they owned an apartment house and they sponsored people to come over from oschwitz and the apartment house was filled with survivors and uh that's how i started

comedy too because my grandma had a window sill and i used to like to go in there and uh sing and dance for the people every shabbat we had shabbat dinner on friday night and i would do my shirley temple act and those people lied to me too they told me i was better than shirley temple and i tell me i was cuter than shirley temple and i believed them maybe they weren't lying no they were lying i love that moment that's a really fun moment of like roseanne some chop yep they're like nah they were lying nah they were lying it's very it's very fun and and human yeah that's the speed um and so she's telling this story of like this vision that she had when she was three in her grandma's apartment and just like this clip is uh uncomfortable as hell because she does start

crying and i'm not mocking that at all uh but i think that the story that she tells um especially it being on info wars and in the setting that she's in i really do think that this is something that uh you know merits discussion anyway they would all get they would all uh retell stories i was only three and uh they were watching the eichmann trial two on tv and they i came in they were watching tv and uh i saw on tv pictures of the holocaust and they would tell stories and i remember they told they'd point to me and they'd say little girls like her they hung them on a meat hook that's the one i remember and i i was so scared and i thought we lived there i went in my grandma's bathroom and i was barely tall enough to lock the doors locking them out and i i was

sitting there and i i was so afraid i thought that was gonna happen to us and uh i saw something in the air right in front of me it was a man on a horse and he pointed to me and he told me that i was going to live and that i was going to be okay okay and he told me that he was always going to be with me and that someday i was going to have an answer for every question that was in my mind at that time and uh that i would always find my answers in books and that it would be it would i would find my answers in books and uh i never i never forgot or left that and i would be like in my life you know it's like they call it mental illness and stuff they call it that but in my life i would get these feelings that and i would go i would go to a bookstore

and i would have a question my mind i'd find a book i'd open it and there would be the answer every time all over the world i've done that when i get this certain feeling i'm guided to a book i always find it and that happened to me just yesterday but they want to cut us off from the divine i'll tell you a story that i was afraid to tell anybody that i i had that feeling because i knew always don't tell nobody because they'll try to take you away from god alex was trying to interrupt there in a very uncomfortable way yeah look i don't want to denigrate something that is clearly has so much meaning to rozan in her life so i want to present that story without comment except to say one thing that pain that she's expressing that fear that she felt as a child

is what so many of alex's friends deny she grew up around people who lived through the holocaust it isn't something that happened in the ancient past she was around alive around survivors and as a child she had a not completely unreasonable fear for her own safety because of the simple fact that she was jewish many of alex's associates people he's friends with people he platforms people he offers a channel on band dot video there are people who say that the holocaust never happened or that it was a big exaggeration rozan's opening up about something really painful that terrified her as a child sitting next to a person who's all too happy to associate with people who would say to her face that the thing that traumatized her as a child didn't happen what i'm saying is

that she should choose better friends because alex has a channel still up for nick fuentes who's beginning boulder and boulder about his calls to expel jews from the country this is not the place for something like this but like i do like what i feel sincerity from her you know like sure that is moving that story that she has yeah yeah i don't know if i necessarily believe that there was a like an apparition of someone on a horse you know but who cares the stories we tell about the pastor often actually about the present right and and when when she tells a story of a vision like that i can hear that and i can see what it means to her when alex tells a story about his visions yeah it's self-serving bullshit yeah you know and i there's such a difference it's hard to imagine

but it is more likely than not uh the majority response to this from people watching it for wars is to say that rosanne's full of shit maybe you know it's to say that oh look at her awful grandparents lying to her about the holocaust look at all those people definitely yeah absolutely that would totally be their reaction yeah it's dark yeah that's fucked up it's incredibly dark jesus yep so anyway alex wants to bond i guess so he brings up his own like prophecies and stuff i won't tell all the stories but i'll tell one and it's on record people ask how i went on air on july 25th 2001 and said they're gonna blow up the world trade center and blame it on bin laden at the time i said oh i've looked at the news i can tell it now i had recurring dreams every night

starting in may of 2021 of the planes crashing i told my ex-wife that she knows that and i went on air that morning and said there's bombs in the building they blown it up because i was giving that dream almost every night for three months before i was falling asleep listening to bill cooper and entered my subconscious yeah yeah whatever i it's so less meaningful it's so vapid the the the shit that he's trying to connect with yeah and it's just i don't know it's sad yeah i mean i feel personally a little bit offended you know like this is stolen prophecy valor yeah and i've got straight up i've got the cred you know like i'm the only person involved in this whole conversation that has a real ass prophecy so how about that and i'm the only one

who isn't claiming to have visions about it okay yeah but you still need to you need to pump the brakes on that prophecy cred you pull that card a little too much okay apologies hey we're in a situation where more uh listen in my daily life nobody talks about prophecies i never talk about it i never have to then it comes between you and i more than it needs to because we're doing this i mean off air okay fair enough well we're always generally it's a continuation of a conversation that started on air so that's fair yeah yeah so um rosanne uh reintroduces her theme of uh like some people who aren't awake don't need to be like this anti-evangelism yeah i think i i can yeah i can tip my hat to everybody's awake i mean the people that aren't awake it's because they're

not meant to be awake so just leave them you gotta just leave them at a certain point because that's how god wants it if he if you know if they're not awake yet and after today i hope a whole lot more of them awaken but if they don't then just leave them not everybody can go alex i totally agree let me ask this question then what happens i'm worried about once this chain reaction goes complete which is about halfway through right now in my view what do people we don't need violence what do people what happens when which is happening in the next few months when it tips totally towards us so in the next few months in the next few patriots are going to completely win everything i'll tip now i think that this is stupid um but here's where it goes i'm worried

about once this chain reaction goes complete which is about halfway through right now in my view what do people we don't need violence what do people what happens when it which is happening in the next few months when it tips totally towards us what what's the system gonna do what do we do once we know they killed us they gave us poison shots they attacked our children their child molesters i mean what do we do now well a lot of people are talking about retribution but i'd say we ain't got no time for that what we have to do is rebuild immediately that's so offensive no he can't he can't just let her cry right he can't let her win the crying game it's so pathetic that is the saddest and saddest thing like i think when i was watching this i was

so fucking uncomfortable uh with anybody crying quite frankly shit i was uncomfortable with the prayers at the beginning oh i felt terrible yeah when rozan got emotional it was in the context of a story that like clearly had deep emotional resonance for her that she was telling organically there were parts of it that were funny that she carried throughout her entire life exactly yes there was there was uh like i said a sincerity to the emotion that was being expressed and with alex it's so fucking performative and i don't know i i i i can't hear that i can't see that happening so close to after her crying that it isn't somehow in response or somehow a need to like show his own emotional state or something but it's false it's it's so i gotta hate it yeah for all

the reasons that i would suspect he was not offered several million dollars to be in guardians of the galaxy this performance top of the list there's so many reasons so rozan says at the end of that clip there that like we need to focus on rebuilding yeah and so she has some ideas on how to rebuild okay and if anybody else said these things alex would throw his desk yeah that sounds about right because i think he would hate this shit and so i put a lot of thought into how we would rebuild so that we can save a lot of time because we don't want a lot of our kids dying and so i sort of did the work in 2012 of like reorganizing around grandmas because i figured out every grandma's pretty much responsible for about 100 people and so uh you know we will have to reorganize our

communities around you know every moral grandmother i'm talking about not some grandmas ain't good you know but grandparent is what i'm talking about elders and we will have to organize our community first to take care of the children make sure they're safe that they're educated and fed and that's like our priority right for this new one because the enemy's plans to cut off the infrastructure we got to get ready now yeah we have to have roads we have to have muscle and we have a lot of teenage kids a lot of boys we have to have them as our muscle and they have to protect and we have to reinvent so that's the attack on men yeah yeah is that the attack on no alex seems to be imagining the ways the globalists are trying to undermine rosanne's bizarre plans for

the future yeah which is weird i i appreciate that she settled on the same system we have now not really though i mean there are a lot of similarities but but it's it's organized around grandmas right right right instead of instead of the patriarch we have the matriarch yeah except for whenever there is a patriarch because some matriarchs are bad right and it's unlikely that the patriarchs who are the patriarchs would be bad and those bad patriarchs there's no way that those bad patriarchs would have control and those bad patriarchs wouldn't get together and do no no that doesn't sound right i i just think that alex would have a violent reaction to anybody else suggesting that there should be a society that centralized around women yeah yeah yeah yeah

and the treated boys as just muscle yeah yeah and um i mean like look you can say a lot about alex i don't think he respect his elders except for like the idea of like john birch society guys or g edward griffin those elders he might respect but not when they're telling him what to do yeah yeah no no no in real life he respects them but if they were to come around and get in the way of his cash that would be no longer respectful yeah there would be there would be an issue he respects them as long as there isn't any kind of like ask society organizing around them as being on an elevated level above him uh yeah so this is job yep anyway um rosanna is a bizarre idea about um what bodily autonomy means what they're doing to our boys is one thing but what

they're doing to our women god almighty alex i'm so afraid for the women because look what they're out there women of the real power the women they got them so fucked up alex they don't know what's coming or going they're nothing but whores they run i'm not saying they take the system as their husband while they're out there defending to destroy the rights of women to bodily autonomy that's what these young girls are out there uh going no we like men to come in our bathroom i mean that's what they got in brainwash to that degree exactly their husband i see oh that's what we're talking about oh okay that ad i guess talks about salinity three years ago gelette has ads where a guy asking a girl out of the movie theater is rape no they don't um and also even if they did

you're complaining about a razor commercial from three years ago that'll teach him boy you're petty wow the tip of the spear here yes um yeah so apparently um rosanne's complaint is that uh trans people can go to bathrooms yeah and this is eroding bodily autonomy yeah shouldn't she be more concerned about restrictions against reproductive health care why good point this is just dumb i i mean i at a certain words they're using don't even make sense no i know it is it is when when they talk to each other and they don't are they're not like responding to what the lives are doing or whatever when they talk to each other and they have to explicate their own belief system yeah it winds up being the dumbest possible shit yeah because

the only thing they think about is what the left is wrong about now but here and they're stupid here's the ultimate tragedy there are points here where a good interview could have happened despite their drunkenness and idiocy i agree i think that if alex wasn't so interested in interrupting and talking about his own prophecies and visions and crying there is something that could have been drawn out from talking more about rosanne's past and the way that this vision that she had has informed aspects of her life absolutely i think just from a like personal interest interview subject standpoint that could have gone a lot longer and you could have hit some fertile ground there 100 the discussion about like um so you have communes on hawaii like that

kind of idea of like how oh we do have to take care of each other and that kind of stuff drawing some stuff out there could have made for an interesting interview right things about hating billionaires could have drawn out into an interesting on a different ways i think nailing down some of the specifics about her beliefs uh and how they affect her life maybe in a certain context could have made for an interesting but they're talking at each other in such a way that like the this is all over the place yep there is very little connective tissue to even thoughts that rosanne has here and then the next thought that she has it's just it's it's a mess yeah no i mean knowing what i know about rosanne's life i would kill to interview rosanne i would kill

to talk to rosanne i mean after hearing all this shit of you know obvious all those things i wouldn't want to like platform her but as far as a person in my life goes that i know uh interesting stories can flow through her like i mean your torrential downpour i bet you know and then to get this is so fucking sad it's very disappointing yeah why would you expect it to alex yeah that's fair so anyway apparently there's clones um and um just sort of a content warning i guess there's an arsler in this next clip great they don't want ancestors that whole because that's the real what about genetic memories what about epigenetics exactly where we it's not just instincts we have the memories of our fourth bearers because they live on through us we have it in our blood and our

dna and that's what all their cloning and shit like that their dna studies is to alter you know the nazi that's why all the clones are retarded you know they don't have the spirit that's right they don't know nothing about the human soul or the human spirit and they never will because they ain't got it so that's our weapon alex that enjoy and the love for each other so are there a bunch of clones i mean in real life no right but i feel like in order to shut these people we can clone someone we can totally clone someone it is possible the ethical implications beyond unreasonable however i think we should clone one person just to prove it has a soul and then how would you prove it because well it could yeah it could change exactly yeah they're the ones who are proving

how to have a how to prove a soul so that means if i clone somebody then they would have to then prove that that person does or does not have a soul if they do have a soul that means all of us have souls or if they don't have a soul that means i don't know the i mean when we're talking about the ethical ramifications of human cloning right you're introducing much further ethical implications i'm going all the way yeah can we create a human being bound by god's laws that's what i need to know the ultimate fight has begun it's just bizarre that they're having this conversation and they're talking about clones as if they're everywhere yeah and i i i don't think that alex thinks that no so him going along with rosanne's framing and then being like yeah they're all are

like it's it's i'm i'm lost you understand here's something to understand all right a couple of years ago a chinese scientist used crisper to genetically alter the dna of the set of twins in order to according to that information create like an immunity to hiv or something along those lines right uh he did that uh unethically and the world went insane right how fucking can you do you know that kind of thing to the point where it's set it set any kind of research into that area back sure that kind of thing if there were clones walking around if there was one clone walking around everyone would know the clone's name yeah where it was at all times there would be a norad just for the clone that's um misuse of crisper now i use chris pics to have breakfast

there we go anyway rosanne thinks that biden might be a clone okay what happens with uh biden obviously that guy's done what do you think happens do you think that's biden i don't know he looks what about their mares they're even the same guy i don't think i don't know that's what people say she said uh do you think that's even biden alex said no so i guess alex thinks that biden's a clone what do you want in the pause in the affirmative i understand you hate the libs we got it fine give me the affirmative what is it you want well apparently rosanne wants to live in hawaii which she does no and have a farm where she trades with her neighbors no shit cool don't we all want to live in an idyllic hawaiian commune she also

wants to reorganize society around grandmas which is convenient since she's a grandma yeah i mean there anyway we have one last clip and it's rosanne giving a stirring call to arms oh no for people to do nothing okay which is fun i like the thing what occurred to me that all people have to do is nothing that means when you've been agitated to take action not just because they want to arrest you it's because they are watching you and they are manipulating you and they are moving you everything they're doing it's better just to take 10 deep breaths and do nothing don't be pushed just stay home and do nothing because it will fall faster powerful i mean listen i don't i mean maybe you can say it's good advice maybe you could say any

number of things but the only word you cannot describe that as is powerful someone telling you to do nothing that is the only word you cannot use to describe that one thing sit on your eyes and do nothing powerful powerful and invigorating powerful stuff i have not read that eckart toly book that just says sit down the power of nothing relax chill chill out come on boo so we come to the end of this jordan yeah yes we do indeed we learned this we returned to a point that was made earlier i think by you that this is a waste and i couldn't agree more yeah yeah that one hits real hard now um yeah i i i know that this was really big when the interview happened yeah and we're a little bit late because we you know had the week

off and everything yeah yeah so it almost feels a little bit empty talking about it because it's a week later maybe some of the buzz has died down and what have you oh i appreciate that more um man i think this sucks i don't i don't i don't know if it'll happen again although both parties left this saying like well let's do this again sometime and apparently she lives not only in uh hawaii but also in texas so like she's right there right right right um i don't think alex had a good time i would doubt that i i when i said that the energy was weird it's not he does looks annoyed like there there isn't like a fun there's not he's not enjoying it right he has to be there because she's famous to the point where he cannot not do it right but he

doesn't want to do it because he doesn't like her he doesn't agree with her maybe well maybe pleasant conversations off air but whatever is coming out in this much longer conversation that they're having with each other this is very clear that she has some ideas that are antithetical to his larger world yeah in in direct conflict and if she actually listened to his show and knew what he was about she wouldn't be into a lot of the stuff that he's into nope so i mean i don't i don't know it's dumb but i mean i think it's unavoidable whenever you have like actual celebrities that aren't like normal info warriors uh or info wars guests yeah it's kind of like gotta gotta check in on this shit yeah i mean the problem with that that's a double

edge sword and that's why like us doing it doing this episode now with some distance is because every time we're like oh there's a big thing happening we're always the debbie downers because it's boring as shit you know like everybody's like oh shit rosanne's gonna do it take some time wait until this episode then what you're ready for it to be boring as shit because if we do it the next day then people are like i can't wait for them to do that one and then it's boring as shit there's a fair amount of this that is boring i mean our episode is boring but i i think i think that um you know what here's the thing i think taking this in through our show is probably the better way to do it yeah but i don't think that through our show it is fully possible to grasp

the off energy right right and i think watching a little bit of it might be helpful for people just to get a sense of like the the lack of connection right right that's going on right in the short first comes across yeah yeah i think that when rosanne is talking about her vision and then alex interrupts her that kind of is maybe encapsulates some of the right the non connection that's happening right if you are listening to this and you would like to know more about the non connection let's refer you to the video sure if not then you're good oh anyway i washed my hands of this and uh we'll be back for another episode is another point uh but until then jordan rave web so we did we do it's knowledge fight dot com yep uh and we're on twitter we are on

twitter it's at knowledge underscore fights yep i'll be back but until then i'm neo and leo i'm dzx clark someone said i should have said this uh at our second live show and i agree i should have said at the end of that list of names i'm a demon i did a bad version of that alex alex and his friends did about it i can't even hit the button because i'm so ashamed of myself and now here comes the sex robots andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you