Knowledge Fight - #79: Meet Captain Mark Richards

Episode Date: September 1, 2017

Today, Dan needs to take a break from explaining Alex Jones to Jordan, so instead he tells Jordan all about a story from the annals of Project Camelot. In this installment, the gents explore JoAnne and Mark Richards, a married couple who claim to be deeply involved in the Secret Space Program. Are they really space travelers, or is Mark a very serious con-man who has a lot of fanciful stories about Space Raptors? Most likely that second option.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk about Alex Jones. That is pretty much what we do. That's like, it's like our job, but we don't get paid nearly as much as jobs. And nobody really is interested. Let's face it.

A number of people. A number of people, but I mean, like, it's a better way of putting it. Yeah. Certainly the, uh, it's, it's great and we appreciate everyone who listens, but man, we would have thought there would be like half as many years. Yeah. Oh man. I would have assumed that it was, uh, much like Alex Jones's real listeners in Chicago would just be you. Yeah. Get it. We're getting negative out of the jump. Yeah. That's a good point. Now, let me ask you a question though.

What's up? Could there possibly be a reason that people would listen to our show beyond its subject? Possibly. Yeah. Is it like, is there a dynamic between the two of us that could like, we're friends? Oh, okay. Well, that solves that. Enjoy each other's company. Is that what you're doing at? Yeah. I think so. Okay. I think that's it. End of, end of bit.

I know a lot about Alex Jones. You do not. I don't know. I don't think about Alex Jones. And that's where our fun is. Uh, so that or avoiding doing any of the bits that we're supposed to do. I don't know why we started doing them in the first place. So let's, uh, so we could fail. Yeah. Why, why do we get up so we can learn to fall again? It's the inverse of Alfred.

Yeah. So, um, I got, I got some business. I want to take care of up top, uh, we got up top business. I'd like to remind everyone that we have a live show coming up at at North bar on September 9th. Oh yeah. We're plugging it up top instead of at the end after everybody's already turned it off. This is smart. Yeah. We should do that. Dan, this is smart. This is unprecedented territory.

September 9th at 9 p.m. And I feel comfortable enough to reveal at this point that what we will be doing is going over Alex Jones and the Mayan apocalypse. That is exactly what we should do at a live show. That's the episode that we will be covering. So if you're excited about that, uh, you should come check it out. And if not, if you live in other parts of the country or the world and you happen to have friends in Chicago, please feel free to help spread the word. We, you know, it's a Saturday night at a bar. We'd really like to make it, uh, not shitty for the bar.

Yeah. Yeah. Even, even, uh, even when we're doing it for us, we're still like, look, we'll, we're fine failing. That's what we're used to. We've done stand up for years. They're a business. We are used to failing. Yeah. Exactly. Uh, also, if you are anywhere in the world, Chicago is quite lovely this time of year. Uh, America, not so great, but Chicago is still nice. The leaves are about to change at some point. Yeah. So if you are, uh, Sonia from Sweden,

speaking of which who I'm sorry, the alliteration makes it impossible to ignore. Speaking of which, Sonia, uh, from Sweden, I'd like to give a shout out to our newest policy one. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much for donating to the show. Sonia. Ah, man, you get an all expenses paid by you trip to this show on Saturday nights. If you would like to become a policy wonk, much like Sonya, you can do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the sport, the show button, and you can become a policy wonk. Please do. Speaking of which, I don't know how to do this. So I'm just going to jump into it. I'd like to give a special shout out to, uh, to some special policy wonks out there like to wish a happy, uh,

congratulations. Congratulations on your engagement. Happy congratulations. Happy congratulations. Happy congratulations on your engagement to Mike and Beth. Oh, we're thrilled for you. We wish all the blessings of the elite globalists upon your union. Hope your wedding is as extravagant as that of one of the Rockefellers or so. I don't know. Yeah, there we go. We just want you to get the life extension technology and that only counts if you're in a, uh, traditional family. So indeed, indeed. Good luck to you. So that is all of our business up top. I think we got through it reasonably quickly. Yeah. I think we did a good job. Uh, so Jordan, uh, I have some iffy news. Um, I wanted to check in with the current day, Alex. Whoa. Oh, by the way, we're drinking, uh,

Fago red pop, red pop, and it has the delicious taste of red and a blast of cotton candy at your face. Oh, nice. I can't wait to get into this. It is, uh, it is, uh, uh, an atrocity of sugar. So Jordan, before I was a distracted and interrupted by your, uh, shock and all rudely, rudely distracted, I didn't say it that way. Uh, so what I was saying is I needed to check in with modern day Alex Jones cause it's been a little while since we've checked in on the show where he's at. There's been a natural disaster and Trump has been bungling stuff all over town. And there was a flood in Houston. Yeah. There we are. There it is. So I wanted to check in and see what was going on. And so today we're recording this on Thursday. I, I'm at work and I'm like,

all right, let me listen to Wednesday's show. And I pull up the, uh, I pull up the episodes and it's like, it has the guests listed. Oh no. Alexander Dugan is back. No. I'm like, oh God, how is this possible? Then it's like the other guest on the show is Stefan Malinu. Oh, okay. I can't do it. I just can't do it. The next guest was going to be a Stefan Marbury though. So that would have been pretty great. If Starbury's on there and he starts crying, I'm in. Right. Of course. Uh, Stefan Malinu, for those of you who don't know who he is, he is a guy who created a show called free domain radio. He considers himself the most popular philosopher on the, on iTunes or on the internet. Uh, he does these videos where he's just like in front of a white

wall, uh, the discussing philosophical concepts. All right. So he's an idiot. He's, he's really smart, but he's like, no, I mean, smart in the, uh, technical sense. Okay. He's technically intelligent. You get, he is, and it pains me to say so because he is a monster. Okay. He, uh, is a libertarian in quotes. All right. So he's an idiot. He's an anarcho capitalist. Oh, so he's an idiot. He's beyond an idiot. Yeah. He is legitimately a cult leader. Okay. There are actual support groups of people who have broken away from his free domain radio group. Uh, he really, he believes in a thing he calls defooing, uh, which is, uh, on the surface a really decent thing. Uh, I'm not going to play anything of Stefan Malinu. Okay. Maybe ever on this podcast.

All right. Because he is a dangerous fucking ding dong. He's already, he's already enraged me and I've heard his name. Well, and he has a habit of, uh, suing people or pressing like copyright charges against them if they use, uh, clips of him to prove him wrong. He like, that's a smart move. He took down an opponent's, uh, YouTube channel because they were using his clips and then pointing out where he's lying and shit like that. Okay. So it's best for us not just to mess with that. Right. Right. But this defooing thing, uh, this idea, it sounds good on the surface. And what it is, is the idea of getting rid of the foo fighters. Right. Get rid of Groll. Get rid of Groll. Get rid of that guy. Let's keep Groll, but Pat smear. So it's, it's the idea that you don't

have to keep abusive people in your life. And if people are negative, you can cut them out of your life. Oh, do you mean like a suppressive person? Right. It's, but, but if you don't go crazy with it, it's actually good because you do have the right to keep negative influences out of your life. I agree. But the problem is he believes that anybody who doesn't believe in these libertarian anarcho capitalist ideas are abusing you. Oh, suppressive persons. Indeed. Yeah. It's exactly that sort of thing because he has videos where he goes on and on talking about how like, if you support the idea of me going to prison because I don't pay my taxes, then you support government violence against me. Why should I allow you in my life if you support violence against me? So

basically he's advocating that it's reasonable and necessary to cut anyone out of your life who believes in taxes. Okay. So he's pulling some sort of irrational illogical jujitsu on idiots. Yes. And smart people because he is incredibly smart and very manipulative. It's, it's fine. It's fine. If he's, if he's incredibly smart, then the only context within which you can say that is he is incredibly smart and talented at the scale of making idiots do dumb shit. No, no. Go watch some of, I recommend anybody who's interested do this. There's a lot of videos on YouTube you can find where people who used to be a part of his, his flock discuss the experience of being suckered in basically. And they're very smart articulate people who just, you know,

they thought they were getting involved in something political and it turned out it was a cult. Right. And you, you don't, you know what? Yeah, but that's how it, it's not like Colt members Arnold was a clapper or Brennan who was saying like, sometimes the road to ending up doing treasonous things, it doesn't appear that it's treasonous until it's too late. Oh, yeah. That sort of idea probably clapper that relates to Colts too. Right. I think, I mean, you, the instant your life, right, you grew up in it, right, choosing to join one as an adult, you often don't know until you're in, um, that it's something really fucked up. There's, there's just a common thread among all of the people, which is like your, it's, it's the same thing with suicide.

It really is like a passing fleeting moment of like, I'm hopeless. I don't know what I'm doing. Nobody is giving me any good advice. And then there's this person that just gives you this like this hope, you know, that you don't have inclusion. And so that's how you get, and it's the same, it's the same way with suicide in which, you know, the, if you don't commit suicide, you know, if you get through that five minutes or whatever length of time, then all of a sudden you'll go, oh, well that's, it wasn't that big a deal. Right. You get over it. Right. And so that happens with people who join Colts is they get that, they get them at that right moment. I agree. And it's not that they're smart or dumb for joining the Colt, right. But if you're the Colt leader, yes, generally

you have some sort of charismatic intelligence about you, but that does not mean that you are not an idiot. I rest my case. He is, he is the fucking dirt worst. Yeah. Stefan Malinu too. Okay. Like I don't even want to get into it, but just one great example. You can find a video of this somewhere, but he, after Elliot Roger, the guy who went and killed a bunch of people cause women wouldn't have sex with him. All right. Stefan Malinu blamed women. Oh, okay. Well, then he's a genius. Yeah. His whole angle was, it takes, it takes a lot of brilliance to get there. Well, I'm sure there is a circuitous path to get around all of the obvious idiocy. As I recall, it had to do with like women fucking strong dudes. You're going to end up causing

this sort of thing. Of course. Like, whoa, dude, what the fuck are you talking about? Oh, no, it goes back millennia. But anyway, stuff like that. Women have bred us to beat them. That makes perfect sense. Exactly. That makes perfect sense. That's not an insane person. So like these clips exist throughout Stefan Malinu's work, but because he has this aggressive stance towards copyright stuff and has taken action against people, people are pretty reticent to post clips of the evil stuff. It's still there, but you've got to dig through hours of him rambling about esoteric points in philosophy that stuff that sounds benign in order to get to those points. So he gets a lot of cover out of, I mean, thank God. He doesn't understand the irony of him being a libertarian anarcho

capitalist who is really into copyright laws, right? He doesn't get that. Obviously, he's a fucking moron. All his critics get it. Oh, it should be very clear. Get the irony. Yeah. So on Wednesday, Alex has Stefan on and he's had him on before. But it's a really huge problem that he's having basically wacky, not wacky, because he's worse than wacky. That's way too nice. Right. This cult leader on his show, and they have a chummy pal session all the time he's on. And then Alexander Dugan. I was just like, I don't know what to do. I was just like, fuck the present. So I just, I looked at that and I said, I don't want to live in the present. So here's an out of context drop of what we are going to be talking about today. As I've said, raptors are going to factor in a lot

in this discussion. Yeah. We needed a break. Thank you so much, Dan. Thank you so much. Raptors Raptors are going to factor heavily into this. I have discovered something really fucked up in Project Camelot that is going just Jordan. Hold on. Can you say that one more time? One more time. No, I'll let Kerry say it. Okay. As I've said, raptors are going to factor in a lot in this discussion. All right. All right. All right. Stefan Malinu should still die, but this is great. Now I feel good. All that stuff. I can't fucking handle that. I'm going to go on vacation for the weekend, celebrate my friend Riggs. Matt Riggs friend of the show is, uh, his bachelor party.

Congratulations to him. I don't need fucking three hours of Stefan Malinu going on. Let's fucking talk raptors. Yes. Yes. Yes. Raptors are going to factor heavily into this. So today, Jordan, we're going to be talking about a Project Camelot. You know, you know, normally, if I hear that sentence outside of the context of Project Camelot, I think, oh, there is going to be a very narrow path. This conversation can go down. Maybe you're talking to a softener. Yeah. We have to know about raptors. We have to decide what raptors we're talking about right here. Is this a Jurassic park kind of situation? Sure. Is this a, as you mentioned, falconer situation? Is this, uh, about a team that has not done much in the playoffs for

a long time? Who is this about? I can tell you it's not the last one in Project Camelot. I have no fucking clue and anything could happen. It could be all of them except for basketball. Certainly they're not going to be talking about, um, Tracy McGrady. No way off. Who was on Tracy McGrady was never a raptor. Vince Carter. Vince Carter. Thank you. That was a long time ago. That's about when I, he's on Memphis right now. He's 40 years old and he's still playing. God bless him. Yeah. Right. That's about when I stopped watching basketball was around that time. I don't know. I mean, you got LeBron. You got Durant. You got Steph Curry. You got, come on. There's this, this, this league is amazing right now. You're talking, I don't know why I'm doing this

because you are too afraid to get to raptors. No, I think that's the exact opposite. So Jordan, yes, let's get it for those of you who have not listened to our entire back catalog. Whenever we need to take a break, we dip our toes into the world of Project Camelot and Carrie Cassidy, Ney Callahan. Jordan and I could not get her name right for a very long time. At least a good eight months. So we need to do that. And today I was scrolling around after I got sick of the idea of listening to Alex Jones and I saw an interview with a lady named Joanne Richards and the headline was space command. Excellent. And I was like, fuck, we need to learn more about space command. Absolutely. Alex Jones talks about space

command a bunch and has been for 16 years. Oh, absolutely. This lady has inside information about space command. We got to fucking get into it. So this is, that's your, that's your ancillary connection to the Alex Jones show. Like we're still, we're still doing research into, we're still doing research into infowars. I'm not, I'm not saying that it's one to one related, but it is the same topic. Of course. Now granted. It falls within our purview. The world of Project Camelot is way crazier and so much more fun. Let's, let me tell you, I think it's way more imaginative. Certainly. Because they believe in good and evil, whereas Alex, Alex just believes that everything is negative all the time and they're coming to get us. Except Trump. He thinks

Trump is great and Patriots are awesome. Yeah, but even those things are still coming to get us. Like even how he describes them is always a, you know, oh, Trump, he's really evil, but in a good way. So it was like, eh, you're still, you're still negative. That's a fair point. So we're going to be starting, we're going to be covering two episodes of Project Camelot that relate and this Jordan is going to be an incredible rollercoaster ride for you. Okay. I have some big reveals. Yeah. I could, I like, it took every bit of strength. First of all, not to tell you that I was doing a Project Camelot episode. The joy you heard was pure genuine to not spoil where

this is going is so hard for me. So I'm going to try and lay this out as best I can and hope for the best. All right. This first clip is Carrie Cassidy sitting down with Joanne Richards. This is her introduction. She doesn't really know how to give herself an introduction. Is Joanne, Joanne Richards is an author of some kind, right? I've seen her name on top of books. Probably a different one. I don't think, whatever she's written, I don't think you write. Okay. Okay. She runs a website about earth guard command or something like that. Okay. Well, then nevermind. This is not the same Joanne Richards. This introduction, this self introduction is a little long-winded, but let's sit through it just to get a little bit of a context for

everything. Okay. So Joanne, actually, you know, other than I think you're an accountant on the side, you have a background in journalism. I know. And you are married to a very important individual in my view. And I think that you've also been on the circuit now basically talking about his information and publishing it and putting it on a very interesting website called Earth Defense Headquarters. Good. And why don't you give yourself your own introduction just, you know, to let people know a little bit more about you before we kind of launch into everything here. All right. Thank you. Okay. So let's see. Where do I start? I grew up in Southern California basically. And my family moved up, I live north of San Francisco now, but my family moved

up to the San Francisco Bay Area when I was in high school. So I finished high school there, went to college in Utah for a while, married a few different guys, moved back to California, and became a bookkeeper. And I've been doing bookkeeping for, you know, private clients and also for different, it was an employee for a while, off and on for 35 years. I have a grown daughter and three wonderful grandchildren. When's the hammer going to drop you in Portland in Washington? This is a lot of superfluous. Yeah, I'm actually going to see them for Mother's Day and then next week I'll be up there working and babysitting. So that'll be fun. And I've been married to Mark 14 and a half years. We've known each other since late 1997 is when we met and we

courted for five years and then we got married. So it's a very late 13 and a half years. Time just flies when you're having fun. Get to it! And basically, you know, people ask me how I got into this stuff all the time. So I grew up watching Martian movies and the sci-fi movies. And you know, that was all well and good. And that was fun, but never thinking, you know, I just thought that was all pretend and never thought much about it. Oh, here we go. And then I met Mark and he started introducing me to some new information. And then he started sharing with me some of the stuff that he did for the military. And all of a sudden it wasn't just pretend. And this is what, you know, real people did without everybody else knowing about it. And it's like, wow. And then you read

about this man you adore almost getting killed over and over and over again. And then fighting aliens and there it is, there it is. Just a lot of weird stuff, but also learning about all kinds of wonderful topics along the way. Right. But tell me more about your life as a homemaker. We had to, I want to know about your daughter. I like, I like getting that stuff in because I want to stress as we go along, Joanne seems like a sweet lady. She seems, she's just got this life story that is just like, married a couple dudes. There's no way that that should end with. And then you hear about the man you love fighting aliens and you're like, wait, no, no. This interview is mostly about Joanne's husband, Mark, Mark. They're going to be discussing a lot of information that comes

from him and a lot of it's pretty fun and raptors are going to factor heavily into this. Raptors are going to factor heavily. We're going to learn so much about raptors by the end of this. So Mark was in the military ostensibly. That's, that is the, that's already the question that I'm already, I'm like, Mark was never in the military. Joanne, Joanne, run, get away from Mark. He is lying to you. I know some stuff. I don't think he was in the military. I'm going to say no. No, of course not. All these dudes who are in the secret space program were to the military. It's all stolen valor. No, they were in the alternate military. And then they were time traveled back to where they weren't in the military. This is obvious. So the interview that Carrie has with Joanne

starts with a lot of sort of pleasantries. You can kind of tell that they're friends. And so maybe the first 10 minutes or so end up being them, you know, just having a gab. They're gabbing a little bit. You know, it is what it is. But then we get into some real issues and they start with current events. In terms of the secret space program and your understanding about what's going on, has he ever talked to you about the current events such as what's going on in North Korea, for example? Yes, we do because I, you know, I hear things and then I'll ask him and, you know, we were talking a lot about Syria and, you know, now that the heat is on North Korea. So I just quite blank, you know, say, well, is there something, somebody that's guiding

what's his name in North Korea? And he'll say yes. And I go, are the reptoids involved there? And he said yes. So just like Syria and ISIS, you have the reptoids stirring up trouble with the North Korea guy. So, so it could, it could get hairy. Get hairy. The reptoids, the reptoids are fiddling around. I love it when you say something crazy, but then you use like a normal colloquialism, you know, like, oh, the reptoids are stirring up trouble. Like, wait, no, they should be doing something more than a down home, back country euphorism. Oh, these meddling reptoids. Oh, man. Oh, these reptoids are getting in it again. Yeah. So that they got their hand caught in the cookie jar. I apologize. Claw. That's as good a theory as any I've heard,

I think, uh, for international trouble. Uh, but I mean, this does, this follows that, what we talked about on the last Project Camelot episode about all these world, uh, sort of issues like Iraq, uh, the Vietnam war, they were about stargates. Right. And like, there are places where humans can jump into alien world and aliens can come here and that's where, like shit gets messy. So I don't have clips of it, but part of the, uh, the premise is that all the times that we end up bombing places, it's because these bombs end up shutting stargates. Yes. So you, you, you said to bomb because humans are trying to jump through and that's against like, uh, treaties or something like that. Of course. Of course. Yeah. That's

what's going on. Human reptoid treaties. Yes. Naturally. Yes. I imagine if she asked Mark any question that involved, are the reptoids involved? Mark would be like, Oh yeah, totally. You betcha. Uh, yeah. I think I, I think I got less than blue bit value for this used car. Reptoids. Definitely. Damn it. I know it's the reptoids. My sources tell me the reptoids have been getting into used car dealers, dealerships. What does it take for me to get you in the car today? So one of the things we're going to have to distinguish throughout this is that there are two groups that are being discussed that are very similar in name, but they are different groups. Yes. And they're actually at war with each other. Okay. The reptoids in the

reptilian. No. The reptilians is an umbrella term. We're going to need to diagram this out. We are. Yeah. Okay. Dry race board activated. Yeah. Okay. So you've got the reptoids and then you have the raptors and the raptors are good. So, so the raptors are good. The reptoids are bad. Let me ask you a question. Have one of the raptors fallen madly in love with one of the reptoids. Will they be dance fighting? Will they be dance fighting? Undoubtedly. I don't know about that, but I can tell you. I can't even do this my life. I'm so happy. I'm so happy right now, dude. I can't even set up a clip with that laughing. Okay. So whatever star crossed lover scenario may or may not exist. Right. Will Shakespeare. I can't tell you that the raptors

are engaged in creating entertainment. All right. All right. Here we go. Here we go. That she was raised in, she was born in SoCal basically. Basically. Basically. Just, just now I'm a really good military wife, but there's a lot of things that he does or knows that I don't know. And a lot of that is because he can't tell me and is to keep me safe. But you know, I know he, he's, you know, he knows because he's the one that tells me, well, they've funded such and such movies. Like, okay. And actually, you know, when I, when I went and saw Jurassic world, for example, I loved that movie. But if you look at the credits, there, I mean, a lot of it is Malaysian or whatever. But if you read very quickly, some of the credits,

there are some weird names that are kind of human names and they're not really Malaysian names, but it's okay. You can just tell a raptor has tried to, you know, come up with a human. Because it's kind of, it's kind of a funny name. But it's not a Malaysian name. It's like, oh, look at that. I don't really know how he knows what the raptors might or might not be up to. But you know, it's not for me to know apparently. The raptors, the raptors were behind Jurassic world. Yeah, they fund a lot of movies. They fund a lot of movies, one of them being a movie with raptors. Well, it's pro raptor propaganda. And oh, that's true. They are pretty. Wait. Yeah, they're good. They're good Jurassic world. There we go. There we go. So now I believe everything

she says, but her reasoning is there's silly names in the credits that are clearly a raptor trying to guess a human name. Yeah, of course. Dan, I don't see how that does not make perfect sense to you. That's bewilderingly racist. It's so crazy. I do mean this. Joanne seems like a sweet lady. She seems fine. But like she's a 50 year old, maybe old white lady. Of course. Yeah, there is no doubt about that in my mind who lived for a lot of her life in, you know, the Bay Area of California up north. Right. So she doesn't shortage of fun things to believe out there. Yeah, but also she doesn't know about like what is or is not a different cultures name, you know, like she doesn't know all the naming traditions. Well, that's why she asked Mark

and he's like raptors, raptors, definitely raptors. I think that's a fun. That's a fun racism though. Like she doesn't get how incredibly racist that is and how insensitive and stupid it is. But at the same time, it's better than thinking that all other names are dumb. It's it's more like silly raptors. Isn't that cute? They're trying to make human names. They think they're pulling one off. Yeah. Like wait, lady, do you mean any name that isn't a white person's name? Is that basically what she's saying? Well, she said that you could see some in their Malaysian names with some of them too silly. It's crazy, but I that's such a complex. So it is Venn diagram of knowing what a Malaysian name is. And at the same time, what is it thinking a raptor made it

up? Fantastic. So Carrie is not a great interviewer. We know this. She just agrees with everything. Yes. But at this point in the interview, she does come up with at least a question. And she does ask if she's ever seen a raptor. That's a good question. It seems like probably seems like question number one, but I'm just glad she got that. Yeah. Yeah. So in terms of the, you know, the interaction with the raptors, have you ever seen a raptor? Because he talks about they're going to be on tour here in this dress. I don't know if it's called Jurassic World or what it's called. It's T-Rex World. Oh, yeah. I don't know if they're actively hiding themselves among the models or whatever. But there are certainly raptors in that show. And then I think

they were involved with a couple of years back. They were in another big production. And it might have been like dinosaur walking dinosaurs or whatever. But it was, I went inside like it was used to be called the Arco Arena up in Sacramento. I don't know if it's still called that. But it was cool. It was like going through history, the dinosaur history through the ages. And it was fascinating. But I kept thinking that, you know, there would be actually be some raptors in the raptor suits. But I think there were, I think there might have been nearby. So I want to pause there for a second. Wait, wait, wait. She thought there would be raptors within raptor suits. Yes. Yes. At the walking with the dinosaurs. So, so the raptors are

hiding in plain sight. Yes. By dressing up as raptors. Yes. Because nothing, you would never suspect a dressed up raptor to have a raptor inside of it. Never. Never. Then she, but, but she says this like she knew there weren't any there and she was like, wait, well, they're probably nearby. Well, you know what? I want to be close to their people fake versions of their yeah. What's what's going on there? Here's what I love. I love the visual that this gives me that is Joanne going to walking with the dinosaurs and like seeing a wrap like a raptor suit and giving it a knowing gnaw. I know you can't move. See show your heart all your cards, but I see you. You see, I have the visual of a raptor trying to put on a raptor suit. There'd be talk. That would

be so hard. Yeah. How would it fit? Let me be clear too. They do discuss it. We're not misrepresenting what raptors are. Okay. They are like they are. They are the raptors that you and I are thinking of. Okay. But maybe a tiny bit smaller, but they use their little, do they use their little hands to zip it up? Yes. And some of them get surgeries so they can speak like humans. Okay. Well, that's good. That's important. That's good. Yeah. Well, then you think they would be better at picking human names. Also, uh, when walking with the dinosaurs came around, like when it was big, a few years back, I was working a group on at the time and we ran a group on for it and the sales rep that worked out that deal got them to come to our office. Oh, that's cool. It was pretty cool,

but at the same time, I mean, it was fucking terrifying just because you're a raptor. I might have. No, I didn't. I saw a bunch of people manipulating a puppet, like outside of the suit. Okay. They weren't inside it. Were they now this, I've just spit ball in here listening. Were they raptors in human suits? We'll see that could be possible because they do discuss at a certain point that some of the elite raptors don't have tails, but I don't care. That makes perfect. That makes enough sense. That makes enough sense. Why? Why not? Let's get back to this clip. Why not? Let's go get back to this clip because she has some more. Joanne, raptors and raptor suits. Joanna still has more thoughts about, uh, seeing raptors. Yes. And

the possibility of such a thing. I couldn't tell that they were actually, um, in the actor's suit that day, but I think they were probably hanging out nearby. Um, so you just never know. We're in Jurassic world and some of like the running scenes and stuff. So, um, I bet, you know, again, we have these treaties where there's not supposed to be open communication with civilians. So they really try not to be seen by people, but you know, they do like, um, they do like to go to big conferences or big like Comic Con and science type of conferences where a lot of people are in costumes and a lot of different aliens do that. They'll either wear a hooded, a lot of different aliens. There's a lot of aliens in their tall. They just look like they fit

in, but, um, you know, this is men and black. She's just describing the plot of men and black events and people think their costume is fabulous. We can translate that also as I don't understand cosplay. So yeah, she's, uh, you can go to Comic Con and often you'll just see, uh, aliens who want to hang out. And it's just like they're in a great costume. Right. That's an amazing raptor costume. It's definitely, it's definitely not that somebody spent painstaking hours crafting it. No, as a labor of love that they're not really getting much for, except some of them have turned it into a gig. Sure. But come on. It's totally an alien. Yeah, it's probably an alien. Totally an alien. Human beings, our technology's, our technology has not advanced to the point where we can dress

like that. No, we don't have paint. Only aliens can do that. Totally. Yeah. And even the paint that we do have harshly controlled by aliens because of the treaties. Absolutely. That was the first, the first thing you negotiate with aliens is a trade deal. These treaties, by the way, I learned that from the Phantom Menace, the Phantom Menace. These treaties are never, uh, dug into at all. We don't get any real information about what went on in these treaties, what the, uh, stipulations were. It's just, we got treaties. I, that's my favorite part. All of these treaties factors so heavily into all discussions about, uh, aliens from, from like the project Camelot stuff that I've heard. It's always like, you know why treaties are super important. I can

explain that to you. Any fantasy world requires rules because there have to be rules in order to explain the really big stuff that you can't explain. Right. Like why aren't raptors just talking to everybody? Oh, there's treaties. It's the same thing with like when you're trying, as I understand, I've never actually played Dungeons and Dragons. Right. But in order to create the fantasy scenario, you need that dungeon master making the rules of what is the reality of the campaign you're on. Yeah. And basically that's what project Camelot does. I want to play a project Camelot so bad, but they're pretending it's real. Can we play a D&D game where we pick characters from project Camelot and roleplay as them? 100%. All right. I want to be that super soldier who

was on the last episode. Oh shit. I get to be joined Richardson. You can be Kerry. My, no, my special skill is I'll ask my husband, Mark and he'll be like raptors, but it's a plus two raptor of binding. You can be Kerry. I put a raptor suit on. Kerry would have a plus three charisma. Oh, that's definitely true. And she's a mage. She does perform lesser magic. That is true. So his next clip, Kerry again, not a great interviewer, but brings up a very interesting question based on a conversation that she's had with Mark. She has talked to him a bit and we'll get to that in the future. Okay. But she had a conversation with him, got a piece of information, wants to run it by Joanne. See what she has to say about it.

And it could get, it could, this is, this is the kind of question that could be awkward as shit, but somehow ends up being kind of delightful. Okay. This is kind of a strange question, but Mark married a, well, he, he told me that he was married to a Pleiadian woman and that he had two kids at least. Okay. Um, number one, I and another California are the only ones that he's been married to, but he has lots of partners. He's had lots of partners. I know, I know about one Nordic and she was from the Arian race. So if there's a Pleiadian, I'm going to have to ask No, no, maybe he meant Nordic. Maybe I just remembered it as Pleiadian. So don't go, don't quote me. Because it took him a while to like, tell me about all the women and all the children.

Okay. But, but there, there was a Nordic princess who he does have a child with. Yes. Okay. And the child is here on earth. Oh no. Mark is an intergalactic swinger. How many women and how many children does Mark have? It's indeterminate at this point. He has tons of kids out there with different alien races. He's like Captain Kirk to some extent, just going out there, putting his dick in all sorts of aliens. Well, and you know what? Mark may not necessarily be lying to her, you know, because California doesn't recognize Pleiadian marriages. That's true. That's, oh, hey, we just got gay marriage, man. I think we got a long ways to go before a intra species alien marriage happens. I want,

I want to, before we unpack how stupid it is that he claims he has a kid with a Pleiadian or Nordic, a Nordic princess off world. The reason that she's in one of their beh, it's out in their empires out in their empire. So the reason that Kerry Cassidy can get confused between Pleiadian and Nordic Arian is because those are sort of humanoid light elemental alien species because there's, there's like the reptilian umbrella and then there is this sort of Nordic umbrella and the Pleiadians are on that side of things. Like they're all humanoid. They would look like humans. Whereas they're, they're like raptors. Yeah. Or there's the gray aliens. Of course there's the gray aliens. There's all sorts of, we don't even need to discuss the

gray aliens. Everybody does that. We learned that they're mercenaries. Kerry does explain that they will just work for whoever the highest bidder is in world war two. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. How did the gray aliens factor into world war two? The world war, in world war two, they sided with the reptoids who were, of course. Okay. Well, the reptoids are the bad guys. So they're on the axis of evil. Yes. Absolutely. They were working with Germany, Italy and Japan. Right. Whereas the Pleiadians and raptors were on our side. Of course. Of course. All of human history has really actually just been a battle between different alien races. Yeah. Which is a good way to avoid the pain of realizing that humans hurt other humans. Yeah. Right. That's, that's the beautiful thing in

this is it's always, humans as a whole are always the good guy. Yeah. But we're manipulated by alien races or our power is controlled by alien races. All of this, it's really all framed as a struggle of all of us together. Yeah. As opposed to discovering that no, true evil exists and it looks like, like you and me. Yes. It does not look like a raptor. No. Does not. So I love, first of all, the Joanne is totally cool with Mark throwing it around. Yeah. He's got kids. He's got, he's got hose in fucking star codes. Sure. I don't know. And then, but I mean, at the same time she opened up her introduction by saying, I've married a few guys, ran around, lived a life. Right. So, you know, you get to a certain age and jealousy is pointless to have anymore.

Who gives a shit? So I like that. And she doesn't have to raise the Pleiadian kid. No, it was in another star system. Yeah, absolutely. So in this next clip, Joanne expresses what her vision for her future is because Carrie asks if Mark has ever expressed what he thinks the future holds for them or what. And she's like, well, actually, here's what I think the future should be. You know, my vision, and I'm very open about it, it's like my vision is for us to have some, and I found the ideal property, even though I didn't go visit it, but I found the ideal property online and in pictures when I was in Norfolk, England last fall. It's like this beautiful, old, like in Wardian house on five and a half acres, lots of fields, like overlooking fields.

It's got a horse paddock. It's got a separate cottage. You know, it's got plenty of room to land things on and grow vegetables. It's like, I want a place where all these alien friends can come visit, all the grandchildren can come visit. And everybody just has a grand time. And we're just left alone to teach and to communicate and live happily ever after with our alien friends. God, that's, I want to make fun of it, but that's so wide eyed and innocent and beautiful. It's, it is. I just, I just love it. Like I, who among us does not want a place large enough for our grandchildren to come visit and interminger with our alien friends. And we can all just laugh and teach and grow together. She has a garden plan too. Well,

yeah, of course you can grow crops. It's great. It's an Edwardian home. You got to grow some crops again. And there's enough space for people to land. There's an undercurrent of foolishness, but at the same time there's overwhelming sweetness, much like me drinking this Fego sweetness and foolishness mixed all into one. So this next clip Joanne discusses the, I want to say pedigree, but really she discusses the lineage that Mark comes from. Gotcha. Lineage on his father's side. They're from Germany, the Rhineland in Germany. So at depth and German princes, you know, that's a real thing there still. So he's like fourth generation away from being a German prince on his, on his mom's side, some great prominent

like British families. I know he's from the Stuart lines from a peacock line on his mom's side. You know, there's definitely very special Celtic bloodlines and does he have any non-special Williams, the first governor of I'm hoping it's Rhode Island, if I'm remembering correctly. And you know, like his grandparents were both involved with think tanks and Nikola Tesla and local politics and grandpa Taylor on his mom's side was one of Teddy Roosevelt's rough writers, and he was one of the original like secret service men and black type people. Sure. Sure. Of course. Of course. And just powerful. There isn't a, there isn't a bad bloodline anywhere in Mark. You know, I think his mom kept telling me, and we're also related to Pocahontas.

I mean, Mark's done all the genealogy and he likes to say back to God. But he's done his genealogy way back. So his, his dad's side of the family is the house of Massa and the house of Orange. So that's, Mark is like, well, families like in the Netherlands and stuff. And, and I'm not sure why his dad's called the Dutchman a lessons for that reason. The, just a little bit of fun trivia. Mark's dad is called the Dutchman. Yeah. That's what they all call him. Yeah. And whenever he comes up, they talk about the Dutchman. Like I love that he has a code name. He's supposedly like a, he apparently went along on the expedition with Admiral Bird. Of course. Of course. Of course he did. Of course he did. Are you aware of Admiral Bird?

No, I'm not, but I know he, I know he went on the expedition. I don't even need to know who, I don't even know. Don't even finish the sentence. I know the Dutchman was there. The Dutchman, the Dutchman wasn't there. There's only one thing I know, and that is Forrest Gump is based entirely on the Dutchman. Well, I mean, there's only two Dutchmen in the world. Yes. Mark's dad and Rick Smith's the dunking Dutchman back to the time when I got it. I got it. So if you don't know, Admiral Bird was a gentleman who may or may not have discovered that the earth is hollow. Right. So he flew over the pole. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that guy now. Yeah. Absolutely. People believe in Hollow Earth really subscribed to the school

of Admiral Bird. You can, you can count up at least one president among them. John Quincy Adams, my friend. He was a big Hollow Earther. Probably two now. That's a good point. That's a good point. So yeah, you, I think you hit the nail right on the head. I mean, this is a man lying about his family's history. But isn't it fun that it kind of sounds like Alex a little bit? Yeah. Related to the tutors. Confederate royalty. Yeah. It's such, it's such the anytime somebody tells you about their past lives, it's always like, Oh, in my past life, I was Cleopatra and was like, no, dude, if we're going to, if we're even going to entertain past lives and all that shit, your past lives were mostly people who died at 20 of dysentery. Like

that's what your past lives are. So own it. You know, if you want to believe in past lives, that's fine. But most of your past lives shat themselves to death. He was related to Pocahontas. Of course he was related to Pocahontas. And then in his present day, he has a kid with a Nordic alien princess. Right. And he's only the fourth generation away from being a German prince. Because that's real still part of the stewards. Yes. John Stuart, Mel, John Stuart involved with Tesla. Yeah. Yeah. And local politics. That's a weird sentence. I like that. That was the one that closed the set. That was the one where we needed the Oxford comma really badly. Yeah. Nikola Tesla and, and local politics. Tesla's short scammed in local politics.

Tesla, Oxford comma and local politics. So in this next clip, we get back to Jurassic world a little bit and Joanne talks a little bit more about some Raptor shit. Right. Let me share the latest thing I gave a talk on, which was a lot of fun was Mark, when he was still in high school, he went to England and was part of Raptor military training. They had a whole like training facility at Bamberg Castle. They were using at the time and he was part of their whole, he and other humans, and including Dean Martin's son. What is Dean Martin's son? What could Dean Martin's son do with Raptors? But they had to do a little battle out there, but it was, it was delightful because again,

it talked about, you know, what the Raptor military is like and talking more about the Raptors and how in the senior Jurassic world, which I love, where there's the guy on the motorcycle racing along with the Raptors. Well, Mark is that guy. I have the leather jacket. He did race his motorcycles with the Raptors when they were running and training and it's kind of funny how the movie parallels my sweetie. So that's a lot of fun. You could call it funny or you could call it suspicious. Joanne, Joanne, I'm at the point now where I halfway believe that Mark isn't even real. Oh, he's real. Like I, I'm like, oh, he's very real. For anyone to believe that much bullshit. Yeah. At no point in time questioning. Why is she giving talks and to whom is she talking

to? She goes to like UFO conventions and stuff like that. She goes around to these places, like probably move on. They were discussed them on the last episode. She's just better at telling Mark's lies to people than Mark is. Perhaps Mark is really good at telling lies to her. She believes all that shit. Anyways, she can then fill in the blanks where she's sweet. Yeah, she is sweet. She's very sweet. So, but her proof, I want to sit down with her and advise her to leave Mark. I don't think you'd be able to. I don't think so. I've ordered for five years. If Mark has gotten her believing that he went to Raptor Army training camp while he was in school in England with Dean Martin son with Dean Martin son, which sounds just that sounds like

so many lies have just gotten so far out of control. Mark is just thrown everything in there. Yeah. Mad Lib. Yeah. Who was there? Where were you? What were you doing? Yeah. So, but her proof that Delisle's production, he is throwing everything in the kitchen sink in there. Yes. Yeah. But her proof is that she has the leather jacket. Yeah. Well, that's obvious, which obviously proves that he drove motorcycles with Raptors. But a little bit later, you remember in the, in contact at the end, whenever they were like, ah, it's not real. But then there was 24 hours of fuzz. That proves that Jody Foster saw an alien. Sure. A little bit later, they opened it up. She also could have brought back a leather jacket. And that also would have been the same perfect proof. Perfect

proof. So you might have heard typing there during it. It's cause Carrie is also on the live chat. There are people just doing that simultaneously. Yeah. She's doing the interview. Well, like people are asking questions and stuff like it's good. It's like engagement. Right. And so a little bit later towards the end, what you're saying is she doesn't have a big staff. She has no staff. Yeah. I think she has one other dude who may or may not be her husband. I have no idea. And it's also Mark. A little bit later, you do hear him yell stuff from off. Okay. Okay. So, but towards the end of this interview. Raptors are coming. No, she forgets the name Stephen Hawking's name. Spoiler alert. Get ready for that. Do you know why he doesn't factor into this too much?

No, not really. Not quite like Raptors do. No. Raptors are real. Yeah. Smartest human in the world. Nah, not Raptors. Yeah, bingo. So they open it up to the chat and they take some questions and someone asks, why isn't there any proof and their response fucking murderously angry. Right? No, no, they get, um, how would I describe it? They're flummoxed by why, why would someone ask that? Which is bizarre. They're less angry and more confused. Yeah. Here's that one here wants to know it's, um, it's a hard question for me to believe they're asking, but nonetheless, why isn't there any hard proof? Of what?

Of the, you know, alien visitation to earth, I guess, is what they're trying to say. Uh, well, if you could get into the Vatican archives, there's plenty of proof. That's true. Great. That is true. Great. That's all you got to do is break into the Vatican. But that's how all this stuff works is like the, you know, the con, the conardicon national treasure three. That's what we're writing right now. Nicholas Cage, get on it. We'll play you with a Raptor. Oh, that'd be great. I know he wants to start a movie with a Raptor. I know he wants to be a Raptor. Sure. He has to splice his jeans with Raptor jeans in order to break into the secret archives of the Vatican. Chimeras. Now we're back at Alex Jones. Absolutely. There it is.

Um, the, this is what they do. The, the sort of the game, along with creating rules for your fictional reality, the proof is in the one place you will never be able to get to. That's how it always has to work. Oh, of course. And it almost always is with these conspiracy theories. It's in the Vatican somewhere. Oh yeah. They have all of it. All of this stuff was in the library of Alexandria, but then the, uh, you know, the, uh, the Masons or the, uh, who was it back then? Who was the, um, the Visigoths? Which one was it? No, no, no. The library of Alexandria. That would have been, uh, uh, actually no, that was taken down by like four different waves of people. Right. And really it just went broke. It's a fascinating story. The library of Alexandria was just a

bureaucratic nightmare. That's really the only issue there. So people had to keep shrinking it down. Nobody wanted to pay for it. Yes. It was looted a bunch of different times. Why? Because of financial pressures caused by the reptoids. Oh shit. Yep. All right. I was thinking of the Knights Templar. Oh yeah. That's a great one. The whole legend is like all that stuff got taken from, uh, the library of Alexandria. They're like, uh, they're like 900 AD kind of thing. Alexandria library of Alexandria is way back when I'm talking about nonsense. That's not the point. The point is if we're going to have rules, we don't have any rules. Okay. Good point. So this is the last clip of Joanne's interview. And in this she talks where it's so, it's so mind boggling.

I just love, I just love their, their, this is a hard question to ask. Um, why isn't there any hard proof? And you're like, why is that a hard question for you to ask? Well, I love that Joanne's response was long pause and then of what? Yeah, exactly. Seems like it's pretty obvious what people want to prove. It seems, it seems like they didn't occur to them. Well, it never occurred to them that you should require some sort of hard proof. Well, Carrie after that goes on to say a lot of stuff about like, uh, like, uh, uh, Puma Punku and like ancient sites and stuff like that. Do you want a coup? Oh, absolutely. But I mean, it's not proof still or she mentions like Zachariah Sitchin. I'm like, I've read those books. That ain't proof. Um, but anyway, we get this last

clip. It's, it's that same thing always. It's always the point to the thing that you probably haven't read. And if you have read it, you didn't understand it. Even though when you read it, you realize it doesn't say any of what they say it does. No, I mean Zachariah Sitchin's books definitely say what they think it says. Oh yeah. But well, that's a fucking wildly unreliable. But if you went back to Zachariah Sitchin and we're like, okay, well, where's the hard proof for you? Right? He'd point you to another book that nobody's read. Yeah. And then you'd go read that and you'd talk to him and he'd point you to that. It's just all the way around. It turtles all the way down, my friend. Indeed. Uh, so here's this. It's almost like it has, it shares a lot

with religion. Totally. Yeah. Um, that's why she has faith. Yeah, exactly. Switch raptors for angels and you fucking figured it out. Angels do play into this. Okay. Never mind. I didn't realize that they weren't Jordan. Okay. This next clip, uh, which is the last of Joanne's interview is a Mike down clip. Okay. I guess I don't want you interrupting this. Is she okay? I don't know. Maybe she seems, I want good things to happen to Joanne. She seems all right. I want good things to happen to her. So he, in this clip, she starts by talking a little bit about the Dutchman. Uh, and then, uh, things get a little weird. Gotcha. Where while we were publicly at Cold War, when there was a threat to the planet, several countries came together and worked together

to save humanity. Um, and his dad was in charge of that for 30 years until he died and he was active behind the scenes and probably till right up until he died. Um, do you know why he seemed to be a person, uh, of note and somebody who, who, who had a fair amount of power. So why is it he was unable to get Mark out of prison? Mark told me, you know, uh, Mark was off on a mission the day that murder happened and that's all he will tell me because I figured that much out and he can't tell me where he went or who he was with and those people can't come forward and say this is what he was with us that day. Right. And the US government military is not going to say, oh, he was working for us that day because then they would have to say what top secret thing they were working on.

And his dad point blank told him, you're not going to break your oath. Even this basically saved your, and this is not a direct quote, but it's like, basically you're not going to break your military oath and tell the top secret thing you were doing, even if it means that would save your life or keep you out of prison. It's like, you know what your duty is and your duty is to keep quiet. Okay. Because they also thought that the lawyer they had working on at the time was a really good lawyer. He was a well known lawyer. Um, but they, because he can say, oh, we're doing okay. We're doing okay. No, we don't need to object to that. Nobody did, you know, and so he, he didn't present a very good defense and they kind of had the family going along thinking, oh, they're

doing okay. He's going to get him off and whatever. And he didn't. Um, but yeah. And again, we don't know if, if this was all set up from the very beginning or if it just turned into a very convenient way to get Mark out of their hair. So Jordan, you were freaking out. What did Mark do? Mark killed a guy. Mark killed somebody. Mark 100% killed somebody. Now it's time. And they were. So, okay. Now I'm starting to think that this whole thing is just created by the entire family in order to avoid dealing with the fact that their son is a murderer. No, the family is not on board with any of this. Okay. This is, but what about the Dutchman? He's only, he died before Joanne met Mark. Gotcha. So now we should probably talk about

who Mark Richards is. Mark Richards is a murderer. Are you number one? Are you familiar with the, he could, your honor. This was the reason that they were mad at the, at the lawyer. They were like, uh, you're not objecting. He was off-planet idiot. Of course that witness didn't see you. Right. Gotcha. Are you familiar with the Penn Dragon murder plot? I am familiar with any number of them. I didn't know any of them were real. This is a very famous murder from 1982 in Marin County, California. Okay. This, uh, was a situation where Mark Richards was a, he ran like a construction type crew or something along those lines. I'm not entirely sure of all the details, uh, but he had two, uh, employees, two 17 year old employees. He was 19 at the time,

or 29 at the time. Okay. I was going to say that's a very different dynamic. And he was scrapped for cash and this guy, uh, his name is, uh, excuse me, Richard Baldwin. Uh, he was a guy who ran like a car dealership of sorts. Uh, he, uh, he apparently owed Mark some money and so Mark, uh, got needing money, one of these 17 year olds to murder him. That, okay. He promised the 17 year old that he would pay him $5,000 and give him a car and, uh, then the kid murdered him and immediately started bragging about it and talking about it and they all got arrested. Yeah. And, uh, it's very clear that Mark is very guilty of this. Yeah. Uh, and what, uh, the pen dragon part of it, uh, comes from, after they arrested Mark, they searched his house and they found that he had a plan to take over

Marin County. I don't want to go super in detail about this because I have never wanted you to do anything else more. Well, I would recommend everyone go listen to an episode of the dollop because they covered this in detail on an episode of the dollop. No shit. Yes. This is that guy. Yes. And she is this, she is this guy's wife. Yes. So this is all, this is still the thing. Yeah. All right. So if you go and listen to the dollop, I'll give you a brief version of just the facts of the case. They found plans for creating lasers that would keep Marin County safe after they had destroyed the Golden Gate Bridge and another bridge. Of course. So they could isolate Marin County and turn it into a kingdom where Mark Richards would be basically King Arthur.

Yes. And have his own dominion. He had tricked these kids into sort of going along with him to the point where he was able to pay one of them to murder a guy. And I mean, they did steal a bunch of shit from him. They stole like a huge bag of weed, a bunch of money and a safe from him after they murdered him. And they found that and like, oh, wow. Well, yeah, you got to take that. It was a sloppy fucking murder. And of course, he has clearly a history. Look, you're not in your prime at 17. That's not prime murder in years, man. No. You got to wait until you're in your early 30s. 29 is decent murder planning. Right. Yeah. But I guess it was 1982. There weren't as many TV shows that you could just walk onto a plane back then. It was crazy. Nobody knew anything back then about

murder. Also, you should know that Mark encourages people not to take planes because the reptoids can take them down to course. Absolutely. Don't take commercial planes. 9 11. Never forget reptoids. So Mark is doing a bid for murder. He has life without parole. So Mark is still in jail. Yes. God, I love this. The whole time. I love this. So this whole time, Mark is in jail. That's why Joanne is giving talks because Mark is in jail forever, forever, forever and ever and ever. It was so hard to not tip my hand on that. Why are they talking to the wife? Because he's in the joint. And more interesting, more interesting to look at too, is the entire time Joanne's known him, he's been in prison for murder. Okay. Oh, so she's one of those. Yes. Okay. All the five years they

were courting and the 14 years that they've been married has been the entire time he's been in prison. Gotcha. Yep. Boy, this is fun. She is found the perfect man for her. That is, hey, that is great. It's pretty amazing. She would hate him if he were out. I would really, you know what I wish? I wish copyright stuff wasn't real so I could just drop in the entire episode of the dollop here. I really recommend everyone go listen to it because I don't want to go through exhaustive details. They do such a fucking good job of it. But suffice it to say, David Anthony is great. Yeah, but suffice it to say Mark is, Mark Richards is a murderer and a con man by trade. He conned these kids and now he's pulling a con on his wife. Yeah,

but this is a benign. I think so long as she never actually meets him, like so long as he's never living with her, she's doing great. She visits him in prison all the time. Yeah, but that's fine. That's fine because he's under control. Like it's totally cool to be married to a psychopathic murderer as long as they're not allowed out. I guess you can get your emotional needs met. She clearly is. She's getting a lot of her needs met. She's been given an avenue where she can retreat into a fantasy life because clearly something was wrong with her life before. And she's doing no offense to her. I feel for her. Yeah, I feel an immense amount of empathy for her. But her life had to have been a disaster. Right. Like in the early 90s,

whenever she decided to shack up with him in prison, yeah, that she's running from something and she's found it in raptors. Perfect. Yeah, she seems like she's doing great. So now that seems like she's doing fine. She is 100% happier than I am. That's a guarantee. I guarantee that she lives a happier day to day existence than I ever will. And she makes a decent amount of coin going around telling his stories. Yeah, that sounds great. She seems into it. And she has this fantasy in her head of, you know, that castle in London or England, wherever, right with alien friends coming to visit and shit. Mark is not allowed out of the country. So good luck, Mark. So beyond that, in that last clip, you heard like he wasn't even there when the murder happened.

He was. He was definitely there. He was for sure. He was not off planet. But I love how Ginger carries with that. She's like, so if you know, the Dutchman was basically the leader of the entire world's defense for 30 years. When we were pretending there was a Cold War, he was the most important man on the planet. Why couldn't he get Mark off? Because you think you got to do your duty. You got to do your duty and not tell the truth. You can't, you know, expose things before it's time to expose them. Of course. It's not time for disclosure of off world missions and shit like that. Frankly, Mark is making a heroic sacrifice. Absolutely. He is not the engineer of the

worst murder ever committed. That's not the worst. It's one of the worst. It's pretty, I mean, it's bad. Oh, it's sloppy. Yes. Yeah. That's not the worst. There's so many way worse. I thought you meant grizzly. It's not, it means bad. It started with a baseball bat and ended with a screwdriver. So it's a bad murder. That's not good. But yeah, they tried to dispose of the body really terribly too. Oh, of course they did. They, uh, anyway, who cares? They threw it in the bay. Well, that'll do it. And it did not sink. Problem solved, Dan. Excuse me. Excuse me. It's in the water. Yeah. No one will ever know. International waters. No one will ever know. Yeah. Taxation is a crime. And if it's in the water, it's like home base. You, you can't get caught.

Yeah. Uh, so this is not where the episode ends. Our episode that is. All right. Because you should know that Kerry Callahan Cassidy. Yeah. Yeah. We're never going to not get that right. Kerry Cassidy has gone to interview Mark in prison. No, six times. Okay. I'm in. I'm in. I'm way in. Do we get to hear some of this? Oh yeah. If he's this good of a comment, I expect to believe in Raptors by the end of this episode. Well, here's the twist. I don't know anything about Raptors. And you know a lot about Raptors. That's the smoothest. So whenever Kerry Cassidy goes, so long as we retreat into a fantasy world, that bit works every time. So whenever Kerry goes to visit because he's a murderer and he's under supervision and

has decreased privileges in prison, she can't audio tape him. They won't let her record him. So all she can do is take notes. They allow her to have a pencil, but not a pen, which she brings up every time in every one of these interviews. Of course. They let us have a pen, a pencil, and that is a victory. So they, she and Joanne go visit him in prison and have these conversations. She takes notes and then makes a video where she reports on the notes. Excellent. So we have a video here of her reporting. I want it. I want it. Now I want to go talk to Mark. I don't think you do. I think I do. I got to do too. I want to go talk. I want to go ask him about Raptors. Fuck. Look, everybody can murder. Not everybody can make up a story about Raptors

versus Raptoids versus Grey Aliens versus the Aetherial Nordics and also having multiple children off planet. Sure. And it gets, it gets wilder too. And I understand Joanne's motivation for believing hook, line and sinker. Everything this con man is telling her because he's a good con man. I don't understand why Carrie isn't a little bit more dubious. I don't understand why you're talking to the most credulous person in the history of the world, but at the same time, you are asking Carrie Cassidy to walk into a conversation with skepticism. Dan, I don't know if that is possible for her. I am asking her to realize that this guy is a murderer who's lying to people. And just be, if you want to, if you want to believe the things he's saying,

wrestle with it. At least be like, I recognize that it's, you know, his credibility is a little thin on account of the murder and lying about everything and calling explained away the murder. He was off planet. Right. So you can't go into that. If you know he's, if you know he was off planet, they can't take the fucking murder out of it. He planned to, he planned to create King Arthur's court in Marin County by blowing up bridges and getting a laser planted on him by the reptoids. That's a classic reptoid move. Well, unfortunately with my limited knowledge of reptoids admittedly classic, classic reptoid move. Unfortunately, because they know that everyone else knows he was, I mean, think about it, right? Sun Zoo. That's not really a name. No, that's a

raptor trying to make up a human name. Dude, you're totally right. They wrote the art of war. Oh my god. The reptide stole a copy of it. I don't know why they needed to steal it. They could have just bought one at the local bookshop. Anyways, plant evidence on murderers. Yep. That's what you do. Undoubtedly. Reptoids. See, unfortunately, they never really get into the details of the Oh, they don't pen dragon plot because they know if they did, they'd be like, we can't explain a lot of this away and it would sound really bad, but I would love to see what they would do. I'd love to see them dance around like well now. I mean, they try that little bit there was like, he was off playing it when the murder happened. Like that's fine. But then like trying to get like

Okay. So he had 17 year olds that he had indoctrinated into his court of King Arthur's court. How do you, how do you respond to that? Okay. Well, they were actually so there's a humanoid. His dad had been appointed to head the Earth Defense League while and in order to do that, they pretended to have the Cold War. Sure. All right. Now his dad deputized two ethereals. And of course they all look like they're 17. They're not actually 17 years old. That's just their, that's just their genetic makeup, right? You may be on their light elementals. So they appear to like 17 year olds to us. Okay. Now one of them, yes, one of them did kill the other guy, but it was a reptoid.

It was, he was compromised by a reptoid. Okay. Okay. All right. Alexander Dugan got him. Okay. They got some compromise. Okay, dude, let's just get into this. Okay. Let's just jump into this. I'm running out of gas. I was really hoping you would save that. So I've spent maybe 10 hours of my life that I can't get back listening to Carrie Cassidy explain what happened to her when going to interview Mark Richards in prison. Okay. I'm saving all of you the trouble of listening to all of that bullshit and just playing the fun stuff because there's a lot of it that is terrible. So here, it's all mostly from one of the videos, her third trip. That seems to be the most, is the first one. It's the first time she'd ever met him. There's a little bit of like

feeling each other out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Second one, isn't all that great. And then the third one, we get some just juicy details. Okay. So here's, here's her introducing the, what we're going to get into. Hi, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot. I just returned from interviewing Captain Mark Richards of the Secret Space Program. Captain. And this was my third interview with him. I go to Vacaville, Northern California, and we go to a prison. I am accompanied by his wife, Joanne Richards. And it's a, it's actually not that fun to go to a prison as you can appreciate, but at the same time, it's worth it because Mark Richards is an amazing man and has a really a huge amount of information about the Secret Space Program and what's really going on.

He doesn't and he's not an amazing man, but you are the most gullible person in the world. I mean, in a certain sense of the word, Mark Richards is an amazing man. He amazes. He is amazing. Yeah. At lying to people. Oh, there's much, there's much to be amazed at. Yeah. You know what? I'm thinking that the problem with that word is it has a positive connotation as opposed to just in a vacuum, the definition. The thematic motif that connects this to our normal Alex Jones episodes is we're horrifying monstrous men lying to women all the time. Well, yeah. If you ever saw Alex talk to Leanne McAdoo. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's just con men. Yeah. It's just con men really hurting people because like Carrie Cassidy is dedicated her life to this

shit. Yeah. She thinks that Mark Richards is a real whistleblower like he along with, I can't remember the fucking dude's name that we went over on the last one, the super soldier guy. Yeah. These are big like sources of information for her. So she's hurt. Wait, is this her game? Is this her job? Does she do this for a living? I think so. I think she gets donations from people. And that's that's that. I mean, if you look at her fucking YouTube channels, they get hella downloads. Don't look at me like that. It's crazy. I mean, it's entertaining on some level. But like I'm telling you, we're listening to the good stuff. Yeah, there's hours of boring. Yeah. So what's not boring is this next clip, Jordan. Listen to this shit. Nicely done. Thank you.

You might be asking yourself, how did Mark get around in space? That is a really good question. Yeah. Are we talking about some Ender's game? You know, I can't answer the enemies gate is down. What's going on here? Can't answer that question, but Carrie can. He flew an artificially intelligent, biologically intelligent, not sure how you frame that spaceship called Minerva. And he was one of the few people, if not the only person who could fly that that spaceship, she comes from another solar system altogether. And she considers herself to be a biological creation the way we are. Although, I guess in essence, she is what you might call artificially intelligent. That's what I'd call her. So I want to I want to put this coda on

that clip. I don't have the audio of this, but in the Joanne interview, it's out of context. So it wouldn't have made sense if I played it back then. But she asks if she has ever met Minerva. That's a good question as well. And Joanne's response breaks my heart, because it's it's this. Oh, no, I haven't. But I'd love to meet the sweet thing. Of course. And it's just so sad. It's so sad. She has an emotional bond with this imaginary artificial intelligence spaceship that her lying murderer husband, right? And he's the only one who can fly it update a update on the fifth trip that she goes and visits mark. It turns out they learned that a couple other people have been able to fly her. I was going to say she said he may be the

only one if not the like he could be that point at the time of this recording. He was the only one is the only one. But then in the future, we learned that a couple other people have mastered Minerva the artificial biological intelligence spaceship from another solar system. And it's an acronym that no one knows what it means. It's it's an I thought they just I assume they just chose it based on Minerva is a goddess of wisdom, right? Yeah, but also it's an acronym and they don't know what it stands for. Minerva is vehicle near every racial vehicle. You spelled that way wrong. M-I-N-E-R-V-A. You said near every N-E-M-I-M. Yeah, Minerva. Yeah, I know Minerva M is M stands for Minerva. Oh, pardon me. See, there you go. Okay, of course M stands for Minerva in the acronym

spelling Minerva. Okay, this makes perfect sense. All right, Mark Richards would back me up on this one. I guarantee it. Definitely vehicle. That's all I know. What ends what goes after vehicle in an acronym? Got nothing. Yeah, right? I didn't make up this lie. Don't fucking ask me. There is a really funny moment where someone asks what Minerva stands for and Joanne is like, I'll ask him. I don't know. I bet Minerva is really nice though. I bet it is a sweetheart. Although if she was really nice, why is it that Mark is the only one able to fly her? Because they had such a bond. It's like a horse. Oh, it's an emotional bond kind of situation. I'm guessing. We're going to go with some like literal avatar. You put your braid together

with the ship. A thousand percent. Gotcha. So in this next clip, we get into an issue that I didn't know. Does he have a kid with Minerva? That's the next question I want to ask. Jury is out. Okay. Don't know. All right. This next clip gets into an issue I didn't know was an issue. But it turns out it is. All right. And it relates to our world more than we ever knew. Okay. This is interesting stuff here. Now, I also talked to, asked him about the Falklands War and the Black Goo, which had been discovered there by the Marconi scientists. And there are at least 25 of them, which died in very mysterious ways surrounding that story. And I've done a number of live stream interviews with other people, including people, investigators such as David Griffin,

on this subject. Now, Mark did acknowledge the Black Goo. And I have had other witnesses behind the scenes testimony talking about it being artificially intelligent. It is also what the Gulf spill, oil spill was all about as well. And what they're really combating is this Black Goo. Oil spills are actually artificially intelligent Black Goo. Now, she did not say all oil spills. Well, that one, that one in particular, I would assume some of the other ones also. Well, I mean, you could really assume that anything that looks black and is goo, they probably assume it tar. Yeah, exactly. That's why do you think we get lung cancer? Totally. It's artificially intelligent cigarettes,

Black Goo. Yeah, that's what it is. That's good stuff. That's just good stuff. I also think that's X files. Yeah, I think that's the X files. As I work, I haven't watched the X files in a really long time. But there was that alien guy, there would be Black Goo, like there would be that black liquid that would get into people, like go into their eyes and shit. This is X files. Well, I mean, you could also go with what the symbiote from Spider-Man, you could do that. You could do Venom. There's all kinds of a pretty good programming man. Right. Well, there's a very lesser magic. There's the well-known Gray Goo thought experiment, which is what happens if we develop artificially intelligent nanobots? Oh, yeah. If they can

self-replicate, eventually they'll use everything to replicate and then we'll all just turn into some sort of Gray Goo. Right. So that could be what they're afraid of. The Black Goo is like they're good. We're going to need DJ Danger Mouse to get the Black Goo and the White Goo together and make the Gray Goo. This is how it works. No, not going to happen. No, sir. Not giving me the Black Alpha and the White Alpha, huh? No, but what I am going to give you is more facts about Raptors. Please do. Here comes more Raptors shit. This one is also about how they fund movies. Now, obviously movies, TV and the lies in the news are contributing to this overall sort of mass amnesia and a fear-based paradigm. Makes sense. Then he also wanted to remind me,

as he said in the prior interview, that Raptors are funding movies and television. There's this latest dinosaur traveling event, which is called... What's it called? I don't know. He was talking about... Oh, yeah. He also talked about the recent traveling show called Walking with Dinosaurs. That's this event in which small dinosaurs like Raptors are mixed in with other dinosaurs. He said that some real Raptors are actually showing up and participating. Obviously, they're not going to have the ones who can beat, you know, motivating the mechanical object, but they look very real and therefore people aren't able to tell the difference. So it's just something they like to do, something they consider fun.

They do consider it fun, and why wouldn't they? I want to say that I saw one of these dinosaurs walking with the dinosaurs up close, and it looks real when it's moving towards you, fast, because they're too big. They're like... It's uncomfortable because it's something that looks like it's lumbering at you, but if you look at it motionless, it doesn't... It looks like a machine. It doesn't look like a... If I saw a Raptor alien next to one, it would be very clear. Right. No matter how still that Raptor could stand, it would be so fucking clear. Now, here's just a really... This is nonsense. Really easy question. Yeah. Really easy question. Feathers?

No. Well, then it's bullshit. Not really. There's... Science is out. Not out. Science is out. Not out. Feathers. They all had feathers. What you need to know is there is some credence to this idea that the Raptors are funding movies. Okay. All right. Because in another interview that Kerry does with... Are you sure it isn't Soros? Yes, it is. Well, it might be a metaphor. Okay. All right. All right. But there's another interview that she does with Mark, where he talks about how the banks get tons of Raptor money. They get 300 million... Is this a pes dispenser? Is it? Are we getting back to Jews again? Why do people do this? What is wrong with people?

This is one of the most poorly disguised... What is happening? Yeah. Mark hates Jews. Well, he's in prison. Of course he hates Jews. I think... He has to. I think that Mark has some issues, but they aren't like... This isn't as pezy as a lot of other things that we've discussed. Oh, do you mean a shadowy group controlling film and TV? Well, I mean, there are parallels. Yeah. There could be. Could be some pes dispensers going on. And the idea that these aliens are funneling money into the banks and controlling everything and... Of course. Behind the scenes. Yeah. And we'll get into actually even a little bit more of why it's a little troubling that Kerry Cassidy doesn't

see any of these trends and the things that he's talking about. But be that as it may, let's get to the next clip where we learn even more about these here Raptors than this clip is great. He said his father was his role model and his father has passed on. Did a great job. The Dragon leader, a Raptor, met with Ellis Richards, the Dutchman at Hamilton Air Force Base August 1952. And they, at that time, were very impressed with his honorable qualities as a military leader. Hell yeah. He said that the Raptors rent castles in the United Kingdom. Don't buy a rental office. They're negotiates with them. That they choose ones that are in out of the way places like Scotland and or heavily guarded. He said that even the guards

don't see them. They often don't know who they're guarding. They may form a perimeter on the outside. He said the Raptors have a sorcery. He called it. There it is. That can basically cloud the human mind and make them forget what they've seen. They do not like to go interdimensional. He said they're very much here in this dimension because I was very curious whether they, since there aren't that many sightings of Raptors, what, you know, whether they went into interdimensional, but apparently not so much. He said Earth is the home, home planet of the Raptors. 65 million years ago, they left Earth during a cataclysm to colonize space using stolen technology from another ET race. He said they didn't totally understand the tech they were using. They spent a very

long time being caught on the inner ring of the galactic center such as A. And in fact, just recently the physicist, what was his name? Stephen Hawking. Oh yeah. There it is. The physicist, just recently the physicist Stephen Hawking. The lame physicist who doesn't believe in aliens. I talked about there being an inner ring to the galactic center and he said they actually stayed with a ship poised on that ring for quite some time. In other words, possibly even thousands of years are time and finally figured out they needed to voyage further their home world. They selected a home world in the Draco constellation and it is now called Dragon World. Of course, of course, of course. Bit on the nose Raptors. We have not found that planet yet. Oh,

we have. Dragon World. In the Draco, in the Draco system because the Raptors must have saw that and been like, oh, duh. We got their galactic map out. They saw the Draco system and they're like, where else are we going to go? Well, that's where the reptilians are from. They're from the Draco. They're like Draconian aliens. The reptoids? But the Raptors are from here. Okay. So if I understand the timeline. They're not fully related. The reptilians and the reptoids aren't fully related. Right. If I understand the Raptors timeline correctly. Earth. All right. 65 million years ago. Earth. Chilling out on Earth. Yes. They see spaceships. A catastrophe coming. Right. Oh, shit. Look up there. Yeah. Check out. So they steal technology

from another extraterrestrial, from a different, from, from the, at the time, only extraterrestrial race. At this point, the Raptors are extraterrestrial. They are not extraterrestrials. No, they're just Raptors. They're just hanging out. Yeah. So they steal that technology, which they don't necessarily know how to use, but they get off planet. Yes. Now they get off planet and they're just tool it around having themselves a day. All right. Then they get caught in the intergalactic ring. Right. Where they're stranded possibly even for thousands of years. Our time, which brings into the question food. Not important. They ate each other's feathers. Science is out. Yeah. All right. So I, so, so this, I'm hearing what you're saying,

no, I'm just saying, but I'm just saying, I don't see a question coming. This is, this just establishes that they, that the timeline only has a roughly a few thousand years accounted for as opposed to the 65 million. Oh, because they found relative, relativistic travel, but they also found dragon world. Okay. So they found dragon world and evolved and then they came back. They come back here just to like, just out of nostalgia. Well, they do get into it a little bit. It's a fun vacation spot. It is. Well, that I believe they like the commerce here. Of course. They like humans. Love movies. Also there is a, you know, of course you've got to go to your home. It's like a fish swimming upstream to spawn. Right.

No, that makes sense. So there's that element of it. And then the other one, there was a decent explanation. I mean, it wasn't, but how the fuck did that come out of my mouth? There was a decent explanation. The, I believe the bar has been set low enough for decent to mean very little. There was something offered as to why they came back here. And oh, it has to do with like the, could it be to like the climate's good for now? Poor raptors. You guys didn't even know what we could fuck up. The climate is temperate and mining is good. Cause if you try and mine on an asteroid, there's no gravity. And so since

earth has gravity, it's much easier to mine for stuff. We get into the, the need for gold and shit like that all over again. Now we get back into, like, I love it when things get so imaginative and fun. And then they bring it back to something dumb that chairs it, that brings it all back into reality. And then you have to go like, well, that's fucking stupid. Yeah, they bring it. Oh, did they, did they travel untold thousands of light years for gold? That makes perfect sense to drag. Well, they, from Dragon world, there was no gold on Dragon world. Who the fuck cares? Everyone knows that. If there was no gold on Dragon world, they would have developed their own fucking economic system wherein gold wouldn't have been the basis for it. They would be using something else. They

wouldn't still be randomly coveting race memories of gold. Well, gold wasn't a financial thing back when raptors ran around on earth. That we know of. Right. How else did they get the ET technology? Well, the thing that you're not taking into account is like that I have read these Zachariah Sitchin books. And one of the things that he talks about is the Anunnaki aliens that came like Enki and Enlil. Yeah. And then the reason that they came here to mine for gold was because the gold was needed to fix the atmosphere of their planet. They needed some sort of like aerosolized gold that would protect their, the hole that was coming in their stratosphere. Okay. So we're getting into independence day. They're coming for our resources kind of thing. Because they need to

fix their planet. That's generally what alien mining comes down to. But then also there is the idea that they like to eat food like people. So there's some, I mean, that's cool. They do, like Carrie and Joanne do discuss how like, look, the raptors are cool. They're cool. But they might, if one of them's mad, they might eat a kid. Hey, that is, look, they're raptors, your people. You know, I think you're cool. Sure. But you'd probably eat a chicken. I think so. A raptor to other raptors. He's a super cool dude. But sometimes raptors eat people. It's just a regular thing. Honestly, we're all part of the food chain, Dan. Turns out raptors, I mean, space traveling super raptors, they're higher up on the food

chain. Maybe this is an indication that I've done too much therapy in my life. But when I hear it being relayed from Mark that raptors are cool, but if they're frustrated, they might eat a kid. I'm hearing him trying to confess to murder. That's a great point. I hear it. I hear it. And it's him trying to be like, I'm not a bad guy, but in a bad position, I killed the kid. But something happened. And yes, there was a death. And the kid part of it is probably projecting that he destroyed the life of these 17 year olds. Oh, absolutely. So there's probably some sort of like really weird nascent guilt that he's feeling that he can only express through raptors and their, their nature.

Yeah. And what have you. Oh, that would be an interesting thing. If you have him write an actual like sci-fi novel, which you may have, I'm not sure. Would it just, would it just basically be the retelling of how he murdered that guy? It would just be like, if I did it. Yeah, exactly. It would be exactly. But with raptors, but with raptors. Yeah. If raptors did it, here's how they would have killed Nicole Brownson. So here, here we're done with raptors for the time being, but we get a little bit into reptoids in this next clip. Good. And I should tell you that this third interview was recorded like in 2014. I was going to say that was cause you were, you were talking about the traveling dinosaur show and that would have been a while back.

Yeah. And she's gone, like I said, she's gone six times. This is the third installment of her, her travels to this prison. And it's relevant because of some hot button issue that comes up that was big in 2014 that we've largely forgotten about now. I think it's possible that the Japanese royalty as well as the royal bloodlines are also possibly related to those particular reptoids. Now, the raptors say there's a, there is a serious agenda apparently, according to Mark, he believes that Ebola is all about eradicating large number of reptoid species. And just to clarify, the reptoids and the raptors are at war with each other. So that's part of why the raptors have aligned themselves with, with us.

They also looked in the future and this is on my prior interview. The princess looked into the future of her race and saw that if the raptors align themselves with human, they have a very positive future. If they don't, their future is less positive. So at this time, their treaties, they are honoring their treaties and they are basically siding and working with our military. A couple important things. The raptors are precognitive. Yes. Which is interesting. That's a nice wrinkle to this. Of course they are. And then also the, if you didn't catch that, what you were saying is that Ebola is designed to take out reptoids. Oh, so if you know somebody who died from Ebola, you know now that they were actually reptoids probably the entire time in

2014. The crisis was largely in West Africa. And the Japanese royalty is reptoids. But yeah, they come from a reptoid bloodline. None of this makes sense. No. Because Ebola didn't go to Japan. But it's vaguely racist. It is. Because you know why? It's racist in a way that makes me go like, I can't quite pin down how this is really bad. Well, because there's, but I can feel the racism coming from you. Because there's a binary to it. There's reptoids bad. Right. Raptors good. And when you look at, except of course for star cross lover situations, which have to have happened. Absolutely. Oh, undoubtedly. This precognitive raptor princess probably. She grew up in SoCal basically. Basically. Basically. So this, this next clip, we get into

some more world history, looked at through the prism of reptoids and raptors. Reptors. Reptoids. He said that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were blown up because of a huge reptoid base underneath those cities. And that's why your information. And I don't believe has ever been out in any other form on the internet. Why? He said that the Japanese believe their royal bloodline comes from the stars. And he says it is related to the reptoids. He doesn't believe the reptoids are directly involved in the US military. And I would sort of put a caveat here because he has been out of the loop for 30 years. He does get information. He still has contacts in the military, et cetera. But I also will say that his, his contacts and his secretly did sort of

back channel information will come from what we know of as white hats. I believe that the US military is infiltrated by reptoids at this point. Carrier pigeon. Yeah, I guess so. But like, I mean, here we go. I like at least that she's pushing back a little bit. Oh, yeah. Her version is still nuts. But at least it's like, not based on what I know, the reptoids are in our government. So, I mean, you've been in prison for all this time. You don't fucking know. It is. It is fun that she, even in this weird fantasy world, she has a more pessimistic like, look, this fucking naive hero. He doesn't even know that reptoids have infiltrated the highest levels of our military, if only, if only if you only need more men like him and the Dutchman to get these reptoids out of our

military. Totally like Mike Flynn. That's what he was doing. He was trying to get the reptoids out. So the other thing is, if you want to look at it just through the prism of Mark's eyes, America does not have reptoids in it. Japan does and West Africa, West Africa. Yeah, which is weird. It's very strange. Very weird. Who are the globalists? I mean, globalists don't really come up in Kerry's world. Right. But okay. So if we're going to put this, if we're going to switch, okay, if we're just going to take one fantasy world and move it into our own fantasy world that we play in a lot more. Right. The globalists are working with the reptoids or the reptoids are possessing the globalists or something like that. Alex does talk about demonic. The Raptors

control entertainment. Right. Now, here's my feeling. All right. The Raptors are the globalists. Interesting. Okay. They're tricking all of us in the same, and look, if Mark Richards is friends with the Raptors, we know they're bad. They're terrible. We know this is bad. Yeah. Mark Richards is an anti-reptoid propagandist and everything he says they're doing to us is what the Raptors are doing to us. The reptoids are the good guys. The reptoids are the good guys. Oh shit. Oh yeah. This is what happens when you conflate the left with the Raptors. I'll tell you what I'm going to do. These left, these lefty, trendy Raptors. These all Raptors. Come on. Mike Cernovich isn't a real name. That's a Raptor name. It's a Raptor. That's a Raptor.

Exactly. I'm going to punt on the Raptor, a reptoid dichotomy, and I'm just going to side with the Pleiadians. That's what I'm going to do. All right. They seem pretty cool. The Ethereals. Gotcha. So now we're going to get into a couple of clips that are, that are so fucking hilarious. These next two clips are like, I have to assume they are Mark testing the waters and seeing what Kerry will believe. Seeing what, seeing how far he can go. I have to assume because these two are fucking weird. Mark must be having the greatest time. Like as, as a con man, he's never had it easier, right? You've got to be so bored in prison. He's got to be so bored. And then this wide-eyed lunatic comes up to him and he just gets to say whatever he wants. And she has a

platform of like millions of people who watch these videos. Beautiful. He's getting to, and we're talking about him. Of course. So just listen to this shit. Said a lot of reverse engineering is handled by corporations, not controlled by Congress and that he was involved in tracking ETs and possibly securing them similar to Torchwood and information related to what Tony Dodd, our Camelot witness who came forward talking about Torchwood and the, the truth of those agents that are going around arresting and, and picking up ETs that are walking among us. Now, he also talked about the TSA scanners and said there are the dogs that are supposed to be smelling for drugs are actually looking for, for ETs. They're not looking for drugs.

And so contrary to what people think and the, the TSA scanners are actually used to determine whether you're human. Yeah. That's what it's about. That makes sense. Sure. Well, that one checks out. Why else, why else would you have to raise your hands? Dan, you have to raise your hands over your head. Raptors can't do that, Dan. You don't know if reptoids can. Oh, that's a good point. But anyway, that one, all right, fine. If you want that one to be okay. But again, why would the reptoids want to do that? They've infiltrated the TSA. That's fair. They're going for the raptors. No, no, fine. If you're going to give that one a pass, here's this next one. Androids, there are men that are a risk. We have a risk of them replacing those in power.

He acknowledged that risk. He said the joint chiefs are checked weekly and give up what called biological material to verify that they are still human. He said that there are also androids in the Congress and that certain members maybe have been transitioned into androids or replaced by androids. How do you want to put that? So yeah, the joint chiefs of staff have to get tested weekly. The joint chiefs of staff can't be androids. No. But if an android is in Congress, everybody's like, okay, sooner or later androids are going to get it. What are you going to do? You win some, you lose some androids. What are you going to do?

Totally. Can't have them on the joint chiefs of staff though. That's just crazy. I mean, buried in there is that we've developed android tests. That's, but we already knew that. Yeah, that's old hat. So, oh man. Here's where, here's this next clip. It gets a little pezy. This is a little pezy. That's what I was worried about. He said Israel is run by one race of beings and Vatican by another. The two races are odds with each other and wish to wrap humans into fighting their battle, their battles on the ground. And he didn't want to name the race that is backing Israel. He's quite careful

about that. It appears that that race is the Anunnaki. However, from my interpretation, indications are that this is a Sitchin Anunnaki race spoken about by Zacharias Sitchin in his books. Okay. So the Anunnaki are bad guys, I'm assuming. Yeah, sure. They came and created us as a slave race in order to get gold. That was what they came for initially. So again, we're in real Pez territory here. And they run Israel according to Kerry. That wasn't what Mark said. Mark wouldn't name the group. But it was Clarence Thomas just to be sure. Israel and the Vatican are run by competing alien groups that are trying to mix us up in their skirmishes. That makes that is fucked

up. Just because you're adding aliens to it doesn't mean like who do all the conspiracy theorists pretty much point fingers at the Jews and the Catholics. Those are two massive groups that conspiracy theorists go after. And the idea that you're just like, ah, well, look, of course, you guys are right. Big picture. But what you're missing, you're missing the forest for the trees. It's aliens. It's raptors. It's aliens. It's raptors. It's the Anunnaki. You name it. It's Sitchin. He got you all covered. Yeah. So ridiculous. So ridiculous. I like the idea that she's really just getting Mark into like weird political conversations. Imagine you actually believe in raptors, reptoids, the Anunnaki. This is hard to imagine. And all of these people

are here simultaneously. Yes. All of whom are competing to secretly control everything. None of whom have at all leaked it to other places in order to discredit the other side. No. These are very bad. They're bad at what they do. Okay. Much like Mark and murder. Exactly. Yeah. So so, so you're like, oh, this, all of this is amazing. All of this is true. Tell me more about space. Tell me about what you've seen. Tell me about all this stuff. No, I'm going to tell you about Israel. You have to assume that Mark is kind of guiding the conversation. Yeah, I would assume so. I mean, Kerry clearly feels privileged to be there talking to him. Right. Yeah. He's just got some shit he wants to get out. Yeah. And you know what else he wants to talk about?

The Malaysian plane. Why? Because again, this interview took place in 2014. Wrap all of them up together. Wrap them all up together. We went back and tried to find out what Alex Jones said about the Malaysian plane. Not a great dig. We couldn't really find him having too much of a theory on it. Mark fucking Richards knows exactly what happened. And it's bullshit that the MSM, the mainstream media won't get off their fucking high horse. They're raptor-controlled high horse and report the truth. And here's the truth. Okay, what's the truth? We also talked about MH Flight 370 and he said it was pushed into a dimensional shift because four people on board and one in particular was building a time shifting machine that was too accurate.

And they had to take them out because they didn't want them to get into the hands of the Chinese or their work to get the hands of the Chinese. All right. Why? Why? The Chinese seem like such a mid player if we're already on time shifting technology. Also, we gotta put them into a, we have perfectly functional dimensional shift technology. Sure. But this time shift technology is the reptoid too good. Well, but that it's too good for humans to possess. Oh, because if we could control time, then who knows what the fuck would happen, especially if the Chinese could control time. I don't know. We can't let the chai comms. We can't let it get into the Chinese. So now we're actually into Alex Jones. Yeah, exactly. Scared of the Chinese. Yeah, of course. But beyond that,

this clip goes on much further where Kerry explains that this is where Mark tells her never to fly a commercial because that could just get time shifted. They could go into another dimension like that. Easy. Yeah. They do it all the time. Do they? Apparently. I feel like they don't. I feel like they don't. It was, it was kind of a big deal when the Malaysian plane disappeared. Like everybody talked about it for a long time, for a month, for a long time. Yeah. If they're doing it all the time, wouldn't we have been like, Jesus, what? All these planes keep disappearing. Lost was actually a documentary. Oh, was it? Oh, okay. Yeah. The man in black was a reptoid. Ah, I knew it. So yeah, one more. Or was he a raptor in disguise? No, that was Jacob. Jacob was

a raptor. All right. All right. Or no, it'd have to be the other way around. Unless you actually believe that the message of the show was that Jacob was the bad guy. Yes. And that the man in black was actually the one espousing. I don't fucking care. Jacob was the good guy. Which way have we, have we decided that he's lying to us about the raptors? Mark or the man in black? Frankly, at this point, whichever you feel like answering. Mark is 100% lying about everything. Okay. So, so that means that the rep, that the raptors are bad and the reptoids are good. No, none of them exist. Stop it. That's, stop it, dad. That's the part you're gonna, you're gonna hurt Mark's feelings. That's the part that's the lie. I don't want this to get back to poor Joanne.

Right. And have her here that these two internet funny men are just ragging on this sweet little woman. She is very sweet. And her murdering husband. So again, one more clip here and in this, Carrie explains some, a question that Mark did not want to answer. And it's not, hey, what about that murder? Which is what I thought it was going to be. That's what I would ask right away. No, it's something actually, it's a little different. And it opens up a weird can of worms. Also, if he doesn't know something, he doesn't seem shy about admitting that in some cases he will say he will go research something and get back to me on it. Well, that's good. So that also, I like a man who's humble. There was only one

question in particular that he didn't want to answer. And that particular question was, I had gotten a sort of a download, you might say, to be sure and ask him whether or not he was currently going on missions. And the answer to that question of all questions was not forthcoming. Almost every other question I asked him without fail. So I didn't want to talk about that particular one. He did give me a nonverbal answer in which he smiled and sort of nodded and indicated that, yes, he is going on missions. I wonder what that in other words, out of body. We did talk about time travel, talked about using your macabre or a light body in order to do so. He says human beings are time travelers. And he seems very familiar with the concept. So this is something

worth noting. And obviously, if he's able to do this, this makes being in prison for 30 years much more livable. Yeah, if you can time travel and go out of body, being in prison would be no big deal. Why would you need to do either of those things? Because you've got to go on missions. Yeah, but you work with dimension, interdimensional beings. Right. Where do you meet them in the dimension where you get out of your body? I mean, yeah, but they could just dimension you in, dimension you out. I don't know how their tech works. If we're just talking about magic, we might as well just say, you don't even need to go out of body. You can just be out. Well, you need, you could just physically go out. No, because the reptoids are the ones who disappeared the

Malaysian plane and he's not down with them. So they could probably, they're the ones who have the dimension shifting technology. Okay. So he wouldn't have access to that. The raptors probably don't have that. And they don't like to go interdimensional. No, that's true. They can, but they're not big fans. Not into it. No, they prefer, of course, out of body and just sorcery. And of course, crying into the future, I believe. I imagine you could have an amazing prison break where a bunch of raptors show up and hex all the guards with their sorcery. They cloud their minds. Yeah, exactly. And then they break Mark out of the joint. He rides out on a raptor back. These aren't the raptors you're looking for.

What the fuck? Oh God, Carrie, I love you. Yeah. So God love you, Carrie. That brings us to the end of our raptor investigation. But what conclusions can we draw? Well, I have one conclusion. Okay. And it's something that Carrie says that indicates to me that she knows on some level, whether it's conscious or not, that Mark is a dude who committed murder. Okay. Here, here is this drop. But he's also the kind of guy that you don't want to mess with. So, which is, you know, very interesting in and of itself. Yeah, it is. That's the only true thing I think that is said on this episode by any of them. Wow. Yeah. Is not the kind of guy you want to mess with. Well, she could just mean that in that

he is an interdimensional space warrior. I wouldn't want to mess with that either. I would not. Or a guy who paid a kid $5,000 in a car to murder somebody with a screwdriver. A guy who murdered somebody is somebody I don't want to mess with. Totally. But also interdimensional space warrior. Sure. If you got, if raptors got your back, I don't want to mess. Yeah, I don't want to get in there. I want none. Frankly, I'm a little scared that we're talking about this at all. Quite frankly, I agree. We should run away. Let's end this. Look, all I'm saying, guys, everybody listen to this, make sure you stay out of arm's reach of a raptor. It's a very short reach.

It's very short, but you want to make sure you do it. Yeah. So, I mean, raptors are apparently cool. Reptoids not. No. Pleiadian school. Great. Grey aliens. Mercenaries. Black goo. Bad. All oil. Also smart. Super intelligent. Minerva. Smart plane. So Cal basically. Basically. Except it wasn't. Nor Cal. So that might be what the basic way was. I think that's the real issue. That's where this all went wrong. Yeah. She never even knew where she was born. If I could, if I could leave everyone with one thing to sum up the experience and what we've learned here, it's that when you are watching a TV show, ask yourself, did raptors pay for this? And if they did, check the credits,

you'll know. Check the credits. That's the, why do you think they go by so fast now? They used to have them, you know, sitcoms. Do you remember? They used to have them preach. Yeah. They would have them right on the name. Totally. You would announce that it was a name, a sitcom. Family matters. That's okay. You would have the name. With Reginald Val Johnson. That's a fake name. Jaleel White. Fake name. Jaleel. Come on. That's not a name. Please. Raptor. Yep. Did I do that? And if you see like a name that looks silly and then like for the gaffer or like catering or something like that, some joke name, it's not a joke. No, it's raptors. It's a raptor trying to make up a human name. It's not like some on set goof that they, you know, they've made a pun name

or something like that. No, it's raptors trying to expose themselves. And the credits of the yearly Simpsons House of Horrors episodes. You think those are fake names? No. Those are actually their raptor counterparts. Yep. Every year, raptors take over the Simpsons for one episode. For one episode. Yep. They write three vignettes. But the thing is, it's because they like cartoons, but they only want to make kind of scary cartoons. Absolutely. Well, they're not from here. No, they don't understand humor. Well, they are from here, but they're not from here. Right. They spent a lot of time abroad. Yeah. Possibly even thousands of years. Yeah. Well, lost. Lost in space. Yeah. So again, if you do find these raptor shows, just try and analyze what they're saying. Yeah.

And if the message doesn't seem human, don't believe it. Yeah. They're trying to get in your brain. And if it's Zionist, probably the Anunnaki. Maybe. Who knows? Yeah. Anyway, Jesus. So Jordan has been fun. I just, I just hate it that somehow racism infiltrates even this bullshit. Yep. Like, how can you still be, how can you believe in raptors and reptoids and still be like, the Jews are hiding something? Like, you can't do that. Well, because Mark is crazy. You should be on another, you gotta, you gotta hold another step to go, man. Because Mark is leaving the earth races alone. Mark was nuts before he went to prison. Yes. That's why. That's true. And when you're in prison, I imagine that it's pretty easy for racism to get worse. I would assume. I've not

done any bids in the joint, but I, from every documentary I've watched, every raptor produced show about life in prison. Right. It seems like there are harsh racial divisions. So I imagine that that's informing some of his, some of his mentality. I would guess. So anyway, this is, like I said, this has been fun, Jordan. This has been, I, oh man. What a break. On the way here. I just couldn't get out of my head this thought that my girlfriend had had where like, what, what I'm thinking now about how the world is ending is actually the most optimistic scenario. Because if the world doesn't end, it's going to be so much worse. And it's just going to be, it's just going to keep going. Right. Right. Right. The best possible outcome is that we all just

just blip out. No, I think actually the best possible scenario. I don't want to get too deep into this because we're already, you know, we're at two hours or so. But like, I think the best possible scenario is that, unfortunately, it's kind of inevitable that things are going to keep getting worse. But then that coiled spring will blow back the other direction. And some of these maybe more socialist type policies like healthcare for all, these sorts of things will happen. And we'll start to see the benefits of them. Well, Kamala Harris just came out and supported Medicare for all, which is nice. She's got a good track record. I like her. Yeah. She has a largely good track record. Every politician is going to have some problems, which is pretty great.

It's the game. Yeah. I think that what you'll see is a massive swing the other direction and super liberal shit will reign. And I think that the world will see that that's a much better way to go. And hopefully we'll stick with that. But the reality is that we'll probably breed a super hard right. Yeah. Immediately after that. It's like a seismograph. Like it's it the pendulum is at a whack. Yeah, we're stuck in a now a massive like there's no it's all extreme. Yeah. But the hope is that the pendulum will swing really far to the right and it'll get lodged in the wall or something like that. Yeah. You know, that metaphor doesn't really work. Not not great. But the hope is that we'll finally get rid of the pendulum. That's the real that's the real issue.

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