Knowledge Fight - #790: March 27-28, 2023

Episode Date: March 31, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how Alex covered the news of the school shooting in Nashville. Unsurprisingly, he doesn't do well.  Surprisingly, in the process, we end up learning a bit about rat social behaviors.

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It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. knowledge fight knowledge fight dot com I love you everybody welcome back to knowledge right I'm dad I'm Jordan we're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Joe oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan quick question for you so what's your bright spot buddy my bright spot today is how chaotic the world is you know I'm sitting around

getting ready to do this episode prepping things up waiting for you to arrive and what should happen but Trump gets indicted oh no we're right on who's to see these things coming this is a news show this is oh man and obviously you know Alex has got to be probably freaking out about this he's probably in a mood but we have an episode to do so I can't watch if he's going live now whatever else have to pick up the pieces after we record that's how we do it and then Monday we'll have to talk about it but man I'm but I'm excited for the possible we could be an uncharted territory here with that with Alex

Trump has been indicted has anybody explained like their their whole like ah let's release this at 4 30 on a Thursday's plan what was it didn't we hear that they were gonna indict him last week okay they're going on a break the grand jury was set to break or something like that they got it out right in the alright alright last minute buzzer 11th hour okay gotcha all right yeah man I don't know I'm a little bit up in the up in the sky I don't know how to make metaphors but I'm yeah I'm kind of like all right well this is I mean I want to know what he's I want to know what he's all about sure I want to know

what Alex is all about because his relationship with Trump is so weird now yeah I mean the ball could break in a number of directions yeah but I think the most predictable one is probably how it'll go which is screaming bloody murder sure and the globalists are trying to kill him or something right you know I'm hoping for a kaleidoscope of emotions going from he deserves it for the COVID vaccine back to like the Democrats or the demons who are trying to get rid of him back to like well he wasn't as mean to China as I wanted to like I want to hear me out on this okay long shot this is high money if it hits

okay but the odds are not good okay Alex gets on air and he's like my fellow Patriots I snitched on drop it was me what am I supposed to say I saw I saw something wrong being done and I had to write that wrong that would be so good I mean of all the of all the face turns in history that could ever have happened if Alex himself is the reason that Trump goes down history not now not current history will still be like hey fuck that guy forever but history a hundred years from now will be like I don't know man he's got a complicated legacy no I think he's I don't know if that on does it doesn't undo shit for me

yeah I'm talking a hundred years from now people are crazy though you don't know what they'll think it's like trying to pull off a face turn by like I don't know being nice to a heel or something I don't know yeah I look I have my head in the clouds about wrestling as well because coming up on Saturday WrestleMania oh are you worried about uncle howdy I'm not oh is he gone I don't know what's going on with him I don't think he's in the play I don't think he's in play anymore for you howdy well howdy is no longer in play I haven't been paying super close attention but there was talk that Bray Wyatt got

released or he quit or something and then he disappeared off TV I don't know what's going on and honestly for the first time in a long time I don't care well I you don't care what's going on with Bray Wyatt I'm not mad at him the end of an era I'm not mad at him I think he's supremely creative in all this but I just don't have the energy right now we got a lot of stuff going on and look Trump got indicted wrestling's got to go on the back burner WrestleMania superstar and WWE Hall of Famer Donald Trump has been indicted sure are they going to deal with that I don't know I don't know I don't know I'm

more interested in Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane have become a team again and they're going up against the usos for the tag team straps all right here was the biggest biggest economic miss in wrestling history all right you negotiated a deal to perp walk Trump to the ring all right that's the way you do it what would his theme song be I shot the sheriff Shayno Mack already has the hiccups the money that's a good point that's a good point that would be good for Trump Jimmy just has a new song about money I could take that do you know do you know what Trump did at WrestleMania no I do not know what he

hit somebody with a chair didn't he because he can't lose no so one one time Stone Cold stunned him but that wasn't the time that wasn't this they well maybe it was I'm not entirely sure how it all went down I don't remember exactly but he and Vince McMahon got into a little bit of we're both billionaires and who's better kind of thing boy great country we have and so they each chose a champion and the champions fought and whoever lost had to have their head shaved I don't know if there's ever been a more one to one Roman bullshit thing I've ever seen that's amazing and so Vince Vince

McMahon got his head shaved I got you yeah Trump's not gonna get his head shaved but then he got stunned at some point hmm there was that there was that picture of like Linda McMahon because she was in Vince's in Trump's cabinet sure sure so her whole family was at the White House they had all received stunners a family of stunner 80% of the people in this picture have received a Stone Cold Stunner why isn't the world more crazy is the question that we aren't asking so anyway what's your bright spot my bright spot Dan I think is pretty simple and I think everybody already knows what it is my man today is opening

day is it today is opening day Cubs one a right off of a great pitching performance from Marcus Strowman Cubs go six six innings what do you say no runs a strikeouts and you gotta believe it they played the song Cubs go they always one of the worst songs pretty bad but it's terrible when you're drunk at the ballpark you sing it you sing it as loud as you possibly get you're not a Cubs fan you don't you've never even seen baseball before but you're out there going go Cubs you're now part of the crowd you lose your individuality there's nothing you can do well congratulations want to know yep long way to go now

they're not gonna do well there I'm gonna go with 80 and 86 or whatever it is that's my that's my pitch too many fucking games yeah there are too many games whoa whoa too many games shorten it up so Jordan today we have a episode to go over sure hey not good not good bad stuff we're in the present day we're gonna be talking about March 27th and 28th 2023 sure this is covering the the period right after the Nashville shooting sure and yeah I mean I guess as you might expect but I might as well put it into words if you're somebody who has a difficulty hearing some pretty horrible transphobic nonsense this might not be an episode for you you

might want to pipe I want to come back when we cover Trump's indictment on Monday you bet we'll see you Monday everybody take your shift off but that that said I'll I'll be I guess more specific with you know this this shit sucks when it's coming up if you because there's actually a fair amount of this that has nothing to do with the shooting yeah but when we get to that it'll not be great gonna hurt so yeah there you go before we get into that let's take a little moment say hello to some new ones great idea so I don't think this was actually a shout-out name but I feel like it could be one okay and this is

someone alerted me that one hour's one hour 58 minutes and 40 seconds into formulaic objections part 10 Alex quotes Steppenwolf's born to be wild in his deposition thank you so much you are now policy walk I'm a policy walk thank you very much next I was gonna put something funny but it said wanted to genuinely thank you both for being allies against anti-semitism thank you so much you're now policy walk I'm a policy walk thank you very much I dare you compliment us and make me what's funny about that is we're not haha heel turned from us oh no that would be a heel turn that would be the biggest heel

turned yeah next Odin the one-eyed cat thank you so much you're now policy walk I'm a policy walk thank you very much I know next shall be the best cat in the world to parenthetically no offense to Celine thank you so much you're now policy walk I'm a policy walk thank you very much a lot of cat action next do technocrats dream of electronic sheeple thank you so much you're now policy walk I'm a policy walk thank you very much and we got a technocrat in the mix Jordan so thank you so much to Jordan's fantasy football game is so incompetent Alex wants it to be his lawyer thank you so much you are now a

technocrat I'm a policy wonk someone someone son of mine sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark jar jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent he's a loser little little kitty baby I don't want to hate black people I renounce Jesus Christ I think that must have been a different Jordan because I remember you talking about fantasy football I've never played fantasy football not once in my entire life I did I didn't enjoy it as much as fantasy baseball there's so much more to do in fantasy baseball and it's like every day yeah you know there's something going on maybe you got to get someone off the off the the injured

reserve oh no no no for many people fantasy baseball is far more interesting than baseball it's it's more of a resource management game basically yeah it is a like let's watch these people hit balls game yeah and I was playing it when I was working in an office where I was just fucking miserable yeah so like having that to do at work was great whereas fantasy football you set your lineup and it's like I'll see you next about all you can do for the week yeah yeah and then you just got to pay attention to the games yeah brutal brutal ironic ironic that you just earlier said too many games for baseball and

then just now justified the reason that they have so many games that's the reason I mean I didn't say it was that reason I'm saying you justified it with a reason not necessarily that that's why there are that I think it's just the right number of games for fantasy baseball exactly games for baseball that's what I'm saying it's too much too many games so Jordan here's another context drop for today's show we know that it's big boy pants time no more antsy pansy yeah no more antsy pansy it's big boy pants time and no more antsy pansy no more so we started the 27th and this is the day of the shooting that

was Monday right and you know it happened I think about 10 minutes into Alex's show okay Alex does not really talk about it on this episode mm-hmm really at all and I would have just said hey let's punt on this since he doesn't bring bring up the thing that sure you know I think is most relevant and people are probably curious about Alex's response to right but there's some stuff in here that I actually I thought was worth talking about okay so we're gonna start off here and it's coming off the heels of his Sunday show where Alex has taken a lot of calls because he's trying to figure out if

he should support Trump or not right this is are we getting Trump or we get into Santa's that's the narrative that we're jumping into right now well you might be bringing this down to a either or and maybe there's other options but we'll get into that later sure Rand Paul's back in the mix okay I was gonna say I don't I don't see Nikki Haley and Trump in Alex's future no I'm just throwing that out Rand Paul is back as the pure option sure and then there's a lot of bullshit talk about Robert Kennedy Jr. running as a Democrat I feel here's here's all I'm saying all right um either you have a God King or you have

to come out and say they have lost the mantle of heaven do you know what I mean you do need to explain why the divine right is gone exactly yeah yeah that probably would be tough this is the end of the Joe dynasty you got to figure this shit out man yeah well you could just sidestep that by still being pro Trump good call here's where I stand on Trump we open the phones up yesterday and I said what is your view on Trump are you gonna support him or not we looked at all the bad he's done we looked at a lot of the goodies done he's done so much good it's it's hard to look at all of it it's it's a laundry list but the bad is

there as well go ahead and start that the reason I feel drawn to supporting Trump so much is a whole spectrum of reasons it's not true that the status to skull and bones at Yale that's something we put out that's not true but it is true that he has said in multiple speeches we have the clips that George Herbert Walker Bush is his idol and who he thinks he admires the most George W. Bush was the Democrat deep stator that helped get more of the New World Order and set the foundation up for what we're living under then anybody else he's a Rockefeller frontman so here's the part where conspiracy theorists get bored

and start directing their conspiracies inward and attack their own yeah DeSantis wasn't skull and bones but that isn't really even part of the criticism there that's important what's important is that he could have been right he went to Yale and then Harvard Law he wasn't in skull and bones but the fact that you have to consider if he possibly was means that his path in life involves the elite Ivy League institutions that the right wing hates and that's really what's coded within that criticism right right right I don't know for sure because Alex isn't specific but I think he may be referring to the George HW Bush stuff

DeSantis's tweet from the day he died day that Bush died he said quote president Bush amassed prodigious accomplishments and he did it all with uncommon grace class and honor appreciation of his achievements will only continue to grow as the years go by president Bush was an American hero a faithful servant and the greatest Yalee of them all yeah yeah good luck with that history is not gonna be kind buddy no he also has said in a speech that Alex plays that like early in his political career he's being asked like who's the most important or like biggest yeah you've met and he brings up HW Bush yeah

more importantly though did you notice the slip of the hand Alex tried to pull off there he was talking about DeSantis's comments about George HW Bush then started complaining about George W. Bush being a Rockefeller stooge also super wild to hear that W. was a Democrat could have sworn he was definitely a Republican but here's the thing words mean nothing and you have to understand them in their context when people like Alex are talking when these folks say that DeSantis was in skull and bones the truth or falsity of that statement doesn't matter they're saying he's shitty because he's close to the

establishment when Alex says that W. was a Democrat the truth or falsity of that doesn't matter he's saying that relative to his own politics W. is a Democrat Alex is so far to the right and thinks that's where the true conservative position is that everyone who exists in mainstream politics may as well be a Democrat these are words that tell you nothing about reality but they give you insight into the person saying them yeah someone accusing DeSantis of being in skull and bones is no bearing on reality it says to them I am angry at the people that I see as being close to these elite institutions right that I've

been told to hate right I mean one of the biggest obstacles to us or to anybody covering the the far right and to anybody communicating with the far right is that they have a language that they have cobbled together out of the sounds that we use words to meet you know what I'm saying like they if they had if they all they did was use inflection to each other it would be just as incomprehensible as it would be right now for people who are like ah I see so what they must want is slightly less immigration at the border because they said the word slightly and it's like you're insane you're all insane

you're all insane because you don't speak their language and you never will there is it there is a strange linguistics to it that yeah I think is lost on a lot of folks who don't spend enough time hearing them and are like seeing what they mean by what they say right and yeah that's something that kind of struck me a little bit so Alex walks back his whole like maybe I maybe I don't support Trump oh I guess I do now really what takes me to the point of really supporting Trump over to Sanis is Trump's stalled assholery peace anti-war my bad having nuclear war drop another of all but stopping an enemy Ukraine

operation which is president he can snap his fingers and do because the people that have hijacked the US are the ones running the Ukraine war so you got to support Trump because of that and then it's the fact that he has the biggest rallies full of the best people of every race color and creed who still love this country and don't want government to be God because communism is where the state tries to be God that's the best definition okay so what Alex just likes that Trump is pro-russian yeah I mean I guess cuz it's not anti-war yeah as long as Trump shoved ISIS up his dirty asshole did he did as long as Trump is

president there's still the possibility that Putin might take over the United States and then we'll have a real country that may as well be it's not it's not far enough off he's had stalwart support for the other side in Ukraine exactly okay what are you talking about oh the loyalists I see yeah you're cool man yeah yeah great so there's another problem that is that Alex calls the vaccine of the poison shot sure and Trump kind of was responsible really proud of it war speed and brags about it won't disown it yeah and all that so that is a problem and so I am supporting Trump for president but

I'm doing it not even holding my nose in fact it's the opposite I am breathing in the foul stance of the poison shot that's already killed millions worldwide and the fact that Trump is so pink headed won't admit it was wrong but at least said we shouldn't make people take the shots and we shouldn't give it to kids and he came out against the transgender cult Saturday that's good he says he'll destroy the deep state that's wonderful the deep state does really hate him he is being persecuted but I think that by supporting Trump we're gonna have more ability to influence him and get him to listen than not supporting him that makes

sense nation and he's probably gonna win the presidency so what am I gonna do then support this hands this is the speech of a true coward yeah right a loser right he's made ultimatums for Trump to come out against the vaccine swearing that he'll destroy Trump if he does it and then nothing happens Trump doesn't give a fuck doesn't respond and Alex has to move along pretending he never made these ultimatums to begin with and now he's at a crossroads where he needs to apparently throw his meaningless support behind a candidate on the one side you have Trump who Alex should hate and kind

of turned against like ten times in the last year and then on the other side we have DeSantis who's waging a crusade against literally everything Alex hates literally everything that Alex complains about DeSantis is doing something about in a way that is horrific and awful right in Florida right here's the problem though is that when DeSantis is in public he's a big whiny loser that is true that is difficult for Alex to really get behind I think can't they can't be as long as he is not available like the idea of DeSantis if I was running his campaign I would say stay in your office don't give speeches don't

go outside don't people will love you yeah don't walk past Biden talking to people don't go to the debates remember remember how Trump can you can just cancel debates you don't have to have a Republican Democrat debate you don't have to go to the Republican debates and do you know what will be cooler you not being there with a resume as compared to all of those clowns being like I'll do this yeah yeah good don't don't go to the debate instead have a rock concert totally 100% but Alex is right about one thing here he has a better chance of influencing Trump DeSantis isn't going to play nice with Alex I'm trying to

court a couple of votes that he could swing because he doesn't need to he's from Yale Trump isn't going to associate with Alex this time either but he did that one interview like seven and a half years ago so Alex can still ride high on that and pretend that their best friends Alex can optically associate with Trump much easier than with DeSantis and that gives him the appearance of proximity to power and thus power of his own within his own sphere and with his audience right you can tell that that's an important important variable and out for Alex in this decision sure is like if I side with Trump I will appear to be

closer to him than I ever could be with fucking DeSantis DeSantis probably wouldn't be seen in public with Alex no absolutely not it would be incredibly toxic I mean yeah DeSantis would be one of the few people on the far right who would be like I don't really have a I mean maybe Alex is bad like that's that's what it would be yeah if he responded at all yeah I would be I would be shocked if he would even want to weigh in yeah never heard of the guy yeah never heard of the guy hey guys I'm a governor yeah I don't have time for pissant radio shows yeah what did you see the news about the largest judgment

in the history of the United States courts of course you didn't you're a governor yeah now someone is going to email me with like a list of times that run just said Alex George is super cool whatever who cares I see I see him as someone who his political brand doesn't lend itself well to being associated with Alex no because he might like were he to be associated with Alex people would ask him about that right and then he would have to answer those questions right right Trump is such an asshole that he doesn't matter well DeSantis is trying to be the self-fulfill the prophecy that we all said of like oh if

if there was ever a competent Trump the next slick one totally yeah right right and now we're all seeing what that prophecy means while the other god king is still alive which is that what they really wanted was a guy an asshole to be mean to people and DeSantis DeSantis is functionally mean to people yeah but terrible at being publicly mean to me and that's not enough it's not enough yeah it's not enough and it is what you're saying I think is totally right that is wow that like bombastic asshole first run is still around yeah you can't really warm up to the person who is the is that like slicker next version I mean

and the simplest the simplest reason is because a lot of these people despite any pretense towards physical towards arguments whatsoever it looks like Trump could beat the shit out of DeSantis like that's the idea in their heads why would I choose the guy if I know he couldn't win in a fight against the other guy yeah it's supposed to be more complicated than that you're supposed to have principles and shit they fucking don't know absolutely no more antsy pants no more antsy pants DeSantis is antsy pants DeSantis antsy pants Antis antsy pants Antis so Alex much like he did on Sunday needs to take calls to test the audience's support

of course now we open phones up yesterday and I'd say about almost 70% of the calls I was sitting there taking notes that we took like 20 calls and 11 or 12 supported Trump or five didn't support Trump and a few didn't were neutral so the majority supported him I went open the phones up today we did a really good job taking a lot of calls only took calls for an hour we took 20 plus calls I'm gonna open the phones up again today and I'm gonna take 100 calls that's too many and I'm gonna put a big poll up on info wars that's not gonna happen and I'm gonna ask the listeners do you support Trump you support DeSantis

you support Senator Rand Paul you support Robert Kennedy Jr. or do you support Biden so please have been out there doing a great job put that up oh yeah Biden's gonna do well in this poll clean up now I from listening to this episode was shocked at how uniform the people's response was RFK junior they so were okay with Trump but they wanted RFK Jr. I here's why this makes sense to me anti-vax royalty totally yeah I mean Alex doesn't make sense Alex is the only person who doesn't make sense here because Alex is trying to talk away the idea that Trump is responsible for the murder of millions upon millions of

people by saying well you know he's mean to trans people still you know like that's his argument and they're all like no you can't murder millions of people which is what you told us he did yeah with the poison shot he did so we're choosing the guy who's not murdering millions but it's not complicated RFK junior well would never work out oh no but if he did it's great option Cheryl Heinz would be the first lady wait what he's married to Cheryl Heinz no yeah really know that what yeah yeah she's married to Robert F Kennedy there aren't enough people I know there are not enough people but imagine that next season of a curb where Cheryl

Heinz is the first lady oh boy that's gonna be a good season I would watch the shit out of that season oh yeah so everyone is really thrilled with the idea of RFK I'm honestly now I kind of have to I'm not still think it'd be bad yeah true terrible true so Alex is a little bit mad about some news articles that were about him that came out that I didn't see I don't know I mean I I'm only a person who spends most waking hours involved in some way right in you know dealing with Alex and Alex adjacent ideas I didn't see this article okay now then there's the other big national issue international issue I

said yesterday it's all over top of Yahoo top of Apple news MSNBC I didn't see the New York Times they're all reporting and twisting when I said Jones gives a frightening prophecy what gives a dark prophecy that Trump will be killed if he gets the nomination is set to win I said the deep state is trying to put him in prison the deep state hates his guts and I think that's a no-brainer to say when they're all over the news in fact I sent you guys a couple tweets or I didn't see them stacked maybe I missed them but I'll send them again I saw hundreds of them but only see a few saying yeah we hope Trump gets killed and we hope

Alex Jones gets killed too that was all over Twitter oh man couple tweets um I I failed to I mean I didn't see any of this but I mean like Alex I said they're gonna kill Trump every year all the time I mean they were poisoning his diet coke diet coke yeah they were gonna fly a helicopter into the inauguration true yep like it's insane how many times he's he's tried to do this bullshit yeah I can't imagine like anyone being that interested I'm sure some outlet maybe wrote a blurb about it or something but like cares I does this all the time I feel like now we're at the point where you can't say oh somebody

tweeted this right like Twitter's shambles we don't you can no longer care about the shambles of Twitter what what does that matter I don't give a shit so if somebody tweets something it no longer has any meaning yeah I mean look I'm not one to get into the complaining about social media sites too much because I think they're all trash to begin with I don't care about them I'm too old and cranky for this nonsense how we live um but I will say that I have noticed a shocking uptick in a dumb right-wing nonsense on my feed I mean it's basically true social now like I did I did nothing didn't like follow more

people and I have seen way more like things that are like dumb theories and stuff like why what the hell is going on I think we all know yeah I think we all do know so let's just be like hey we did it we're done and people who have blocked me their tweets are showing up see there we go there we go happening I thought I got blocked I was trying to be blocked yes yeah please just let me be blocked don't show me green wall huh so anyway Alex I guess is Naval Gazing a little bit there sure so here's what Alex thinks Trump needs to do I was thinking about it last night this morning he has to come out and say he was

lied to about Operation Warp Speed and by Fauci we know they came to him they said we can do it quickly they already had the so-called vaccine right I think that's a bad idea him and said they didn't then they claim they made it in two weeks he's got to expose that to save lives and and and stop the next stage pandemic but that said if you're against Trump okay who are we for and then what is your path and I and I'm saying that legitimately that I respect you and I understand your concerns and I have real concerns and I don't like the fact that Trump has done the wrong thing on the poison injections but all these

other issues he's doing a great job look at the comparison to Biden and the New World Order and how much the deep state hates him and this is this is just so pathetic for Alex yeah like for someone with the like initial branding that he had of who he was as a figure to be concerned about like oh yeah but Trump is not perfect but consider the alternative sure lesser of two evils with Biden kind of stuff like why do you care who's president it's your whole fucking thing about like this is all nonsense and it doesn't matter like Trump got in he didn't defeat the deep state yeah it's not gonna do anything

you're not gonna beat your imaginary globalists this time around what are you talking about save some dignity and go back to your I don't care about this stuff presentation yeah be above it you dumb dumb yeah I think I think he's just acknowledging that he's no longer driving his own bus yes you know like he's sitting there going like I don't know where to go and whereas in the past if he didn't know where to go he would just start going somewhere and that's where he went right you know and now he's like do you want to tell me where to go yeah I accidentally hitched my wagon to Trump so now my personal brand

requires him will you promise to keep buying my weird exactly 100% 100% is it good for my brand to like Trump or is it bad is he might as well just ask that like it's fucking sad it's terrifyingly sad yeah what a loser shell and I mean like this you could argue in some ways is exacerbated by the bankruptcy and by him losing these cases sure sure it is distinct from it yeah it's a trend that is not being brought on by outside forces that are out to get him it's he's done this to himself he's trapped himself in this in this place where he is he's existing as a rejection of everything that made him

interesting earlier in his career yeah I mean at most I would say that the judgments in the like if I were going to be generous I think maybe he's second guessed himself slightly more but I don't know if that's that's a maybe you know like I don't know if that is even an effect other than just age too many drugs like I don't know what else to say like there are any number of reasons that he's second guessing himself yeah yeah yeah also no one lied to Trump about like operation warp speed no so Alex's suggestion is Trump lie about being lied to yes cool I think that's okay no I mean I don't think it's a good for his

audience that would yeah I think yeah I think that's a smart move yeah I think I think it's a good idea I think it's wrong and terrible yeah but it's a good idea because I think in some ways if he were to lie about being lied to you be able to placate the anti-vax weirdos but still hold on to some ego of like look what I got accomplished totally I got a lot done look they said that this was going to happen and that was wrong but I still did it I still pulled off the impossible exactly you know you can hold on to some weird ego shit I made the deal I was the one who made the deal sure I was lied to about the deal but I was the

one who pulled it off yeah it would satisfy the optics now it's smart yeah so the the shooting happened while Alex is on air and he doesn't cover it but this is what he was gearing up to cover that day sure this is these are the headlines that he's got let's get into the facts here now I'm gonna come back take calls on Trump and 2024 what's happening in the world and do you support Trump or DeSantis or what do you support what's your plan to take the country back that's the next segment but let me tell you what else is coming up Minnesota Minnesota lawmakers advance transgender reps legislation that could

strip custody from parents who don't support child being sterilized Arizona family dollar employee charged with murder after allegedly gunning down serial shoplifter who punched him in the face what Minnesota advances trans refugee bill opponents say what strip custody is like we're focused on something consenting parents you must consent the state sterilize your child GOP bill would protect parents who refuse to transition their child's gender Fox News and a whole lot more Tennessee legislature passes ban on gender transition healthcare for minors Kentucky governor says he's gonna veto a

bill protecting minor children from being sterilized by the state Idaho signs transgender bathroom van school faces five thousand fine per infraction I've got public schools around the country where they're forcing elementary students middle students and high school students into transgender bathrooms everyone is in the same bathroom at the same time they're telling children it's a hate crime if they don't strip down in front of the opposite sex what a sick cult of evil garbage so it should be pointed out that this is what Alex has prepared to cover and he has no idea that a mass shooting has even happened

his stated plan on this episode was to lie about misrepresented headlines in order to incite hatred towards trans people because that's what is show and much of the right wing media is currently a lot of it is indistinguishable from media designed to promote hate right because maybe it's not that different no this is another case where you have to translate what Alex is saying he keeps saying that these people are being sterilized which is not the case there may be some decreased virility that accompanies hormone therapy but there are studies that have shown that a lot of that reverses if a person ceases

taking the hormone this isn't about sterilization but again the truth or falsity of what Alex is saying is not really important to what he actually means he's just saying that he hates trans people him calling gender affirming care sterilization is little more than him virtue signaling to his transphobia and more general bigotry so the audience knows that he's on their side right like to to here's here's what is is what is impossible to translate right because of what it is they're discussing right you we have this conversation as though what they're doing is talking about trans people and

that has nothing to do with anything that is nothing to do with any if there were no trans people right tomorrow there would be new trans people right there is never an end to it right so whatever white or straight cis you think you are right now it is only a matter of time before you are not yeah so that is why it is like you'd not you should not be thinking about this in terms of the words or the conversation they're pretending to be having no you should think about both well yeah I mean obviously you should you should think about it but you should also understand right the the meaning and the intent yeah

of a lot of this the meaning in the intent is I can go after them right now and eventually I will be able to go after you yeah and there are other groups that I would be have gone after in another time totally when standards were different yeah and people were you know whatever the vulnerable group was at that time that was okay to for me to attack yeah yeah it's it's shit it's disgusting so the one thing I thought was very interesting about this clip is the last headline Alex reads off I want to play this again so you can take note of what I'm getting at I don't science transgender bathroom van school faces 5000

fine per infraction I've got public schools around the country where they're forcing elementary students middle students and high school students into transgender bathrooms everyone is in the same bathroom at the same time they're telling children it's a hate crime if they don't strip down in front of the opposite sex what a sick cult of evil garbage so Alex read that headline which is about Idaho banning trans people from going to bathrooms that correspond with their gender incidentally this bill was written by the Idaho family policy center a right-wing Christian group who seeking to turn the US into a

theocracy they want to impose biblical standards into government and that's really cool according to their president Blair conzatti who said quote God's law grants more freedom and enables more human flourishing than any other moral philosophy known to man he left off the part where that freedom and human flourishing doesn't count if you're flourishing in a way that he thinks is sinful so fuck off right or whatever right so back to the point though Alex reads that headline and then gets lost in the weeds rambling about elementary schools where people have to strip down with folks of all genders in

the same bathroom or else it's a hate crime you may notice something really glaring there the headline and the actual article about the anti-trans legislation is really easy to find it be specific about where his stories his stories about these horrors of liberalism run amok are vague unsourced and seem like maybe he's making them up and that's because he's making that shit up yeah but the anti-trans legislation is very real yeah and so that's that's that dynamic there but I think his audience is probably more interested in the stories that are vivid and not true yeah making up yeah I mean it's it is it is

like it is difficult to directly just say like these people are writing this legislation to hurt people for and for no other reason there is no other reason you can argue that they have a whatever thing that they say they have a nominal reason sure sure yeah it's not sincere but they're the people in the government are writing legislation to hurt people and what is being distracted by that with is oh actually kids are being forced to blah blah blah yeah next thing you know Joe Rogan's talking about how people have to tell their cats and litter boxes and schools and everyone that's to accept that people are cats and yeah

yeah yeah and they don't have to deal with your government writing legislation just to hurt people yep it's fun game yep so anyway we get a call that's weird and by weird not really weird it's not that weird it just seems kind of out of time it's at a different time Kurt in South Carolina welcome thank you sir I do support Donald J Trump for president I'd also recommend that we support our constitutional minded sheriffs across this country and pray that they would form posseys and join together and arresting the criminal usurpers of our country you know that's

a really good point the left anti-fun all these lawless black lives matter groups we just need citizen defense peaceful and I guess you know they had the term back up until after World War two civil defense they got rid of that and we do need to take neighborhood watch the next level to stabilize our societies and have our communities come together and the county sheriffs the place to start constitutional yes sir this sounds like 2009 shit yeah this is like cut talking about constitutional sheriffs back there come on we're in the future get out of here it doesn't feel right for Alex to be talking about this

like I get that he still loves sheriffs I assume but like it just doesn't it's it feels weird I mean you know in a post-COVID world it does feel like a lot of the constitutional sheriffs were handled by the disease they they certainly probably had a bad batting average they didn't have a good run but but yeah it seems it just seems like this is your past career buddy you can't you can't keep playing these hits yeah even your audience wants to hear this you can never go home again no also nobody really thinks that if you got a bunch of sheriffs together murdering people it would solve problems no but

you also already have these right-wing street groups that are already exist yeah you just want sheriffs to I guess deputize yeah yeah yeah so they can legally murder right now for this this whole like gray area you know yeah yeah you want the sheriff presiding over the serial naming ceremony exactly yes you want the sheriff to have a silly name based on the thing he hit somebody with one time I mean it's like why would you elect a sheriff they didn't own a white hood in their back closet sheriff one day one sweet day so close so Alex does not sing along with you belong to the city but he does get into a little bit

of Father, do you want to bang heads with me? We are back live broadcasting worldwide on this March 27th, 2023 transmission in defiance of tyranny. Father, I'm going to take your daughter out tonight, I'm going to show her my world. Don't do that. What an aggressive statement. That is a good point.

That is a good point. I'm going to show her my world. What a good point. It's not some 17 year old young man trying to take your 16 year old daughter out and show her his world. It's a bunch of weird, sick, evil, child obsessed pedophiles and I'm going to be covering that coming up next hour. That seems unnecessary.

Yeah, that's a little bit of an aggressive statement really when you think about it. Why'd you have to do that, man? Just rock it out to mother. We were having a great time. We were having a great time. I don't know where you got to just throw in trans people with demonic pedophiles. Come on, man. Yeah.

Wow, saying it's really cool the idea of a 17 year old aggressively confronting a parent to be like, I'm taking your daughter out tonight. Yeah. I'm showing my world. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. It's very strange.

It's almost like there's a, there's a flagellation, like anytime you experience joy, you have to destroy it by being like, I remind myself that there are sinners in this world. I'm having fun and I must remember my hate. Yeah. Exactly. Right. If I, if I have too much fun, I'm not hating. Always be hating.

So fucking annoying. Yeah. Anyway, we get another caller and this is one of them who wants RFK Junior as the president. Sure. My issue is then what do we do if the alternative, I'm not a lesser two able disguise, but if the alternative is a thousand percent worse, what do we do? RFK Junior, man. I think if Rand Paul's with them, I think that then when we get hit again, and we still

have somebody who can guide the country through the next pandemic. Well, there's no doubt they can't get our guns right now. So they're going to do another virus. You're right. I appreciate your call. I like RFK Junior, but it needs to come out against gun control and come out against abortion. I really trust him. He's a good man.

He's a loving man. He's a well-spoken man. He's the real deal. My spirit tells me he's good. I think that Alex Jones may have met Cheryl Hines at some point. I just thought about that. That's possible. Even Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., they've known each other for a while, like in anti-vex circles

and stuff. Sure. Sure. That's fucked up. You think he's met Larry David? That's what I'm thinking. That's a good question. That would be an interesting episode of Kerb.

I was supposed to be Jeff Garland's character on Kerb. I turned out $3 million in episode. They're going to let me be George in the reboot. Oh, man. I've been great as George. Jerry. Jerry. Apparently, they can't get our guns now, so I guess if there's another shooting, we

probably shouldn't be worried about that. No, it appears not. They can't do it. They have to use a pandemic. That's against the law. That's why you need anti-vex weirdo as president and Rand Paul as vice president to be, I guess, hostile. I do appreciate the dark mirror of the lesser of two evils conversation.

I would appreciate more of the people who had that conversation on the left over Biden. Just be like, you know what? Fuck it. We're going to choose not evil and let the chips fall where they may, because frankly, this is dumb regardless of what side you're on. Also just to be totally clear, Alex is saying I'm not a lesser of two evils guy than saying what about the lesser of two evils? Yeah, exactly.

Absolutely. Absolutely. That's a little silly. No. I mean, come on. These conversations are dumb. Get over it. Pick a guy.

I got one last clip here from the 27th and this is a caller actually coming in with a terrible idea, but I think would be historically important. If this could happen as a document, I like big swings. If this could happen, it would be important to record it. Okay. That's the point. Why I'm tentatively supporting him is because they drop and they fear him and even though he's got problems, he's the real deal.

I mean, he's got problems too. He murdered millions of people with the poison shot. He definitely wants to be president. He was president. He definitely had to get us. He's just very, very pigheaded. So how do we thread that needle? This might be a little unorthodox, but he needs to take like a mushroom trip and kill

his ego or something and or someone's got to get. I agree. I would like, I think I should take mushrooms with President Trump. I would love that. Yeah. I'm not a big drug guy, but I would love that to take some illusions here and there over the years. I don't take them very often.

I'm taking them with Joe Rogan. I'm taking with Mike Tyson and you can have control of your mind. It's not that big of a deal, but yeah, I'm honest. I'm not doing it right. Folks are not promoting drugs also Alex does not have control of his mind. He sees demons at the grocery store when he's sober. I was going to say, what are you talking about? Yeah.

The reason that you're fine is because that's how you live all the time. Right. That episode with Tyson never came out probably because you started crying. Absolutely. It's screaming about demons being in the room or something. Do both of them don't walk out alive if they take mushrooms together, right? Trump and Alex cannot take mushrooms together and then both of them still live at the end of this trip.

So many possibilities. That's one of them. Yeah. I imagine another one where they create a language, sit there, they work out a linguistic. They work out syntax and grammar for a whole new language. Yeah. You know, it's unfortunate that we know Alex has taken mushrooms in the past. Otherwise you're like, Hey, maybe mushrooms is the cure for malignant narcissism.

Did we, has anybody tried that? I actually don't know that he's taken enough mushrooms. Yeah. He might have had a little mild trip or something. You got to go for it. And that video with Tyson's never come out. So I don't know. That's true.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they should take mushrooms. Yeah. Release the Tyson. I want to see it. Or don't. It's probably not worth it.

No, it's not going to be good. It's a real anti-drug guy. Yeah. I believe he wanted drug dealers executed. He's a tea total. Yeah. Doesn't even drink. Yeah.

Don't think you're going to get him to do shrooms with you buddy. It's not going to happen. But he's a coward. Historical document. It would be. Alex and Trump on mushrooms locked in a room. What do they do? I mean, you got it.

That's better than anything that Heisenberg ever came up with. You know, until you observe that all outcomes are possible. You know, there's that 50-50 alive or dead cat. Yeah. No, no, no, no. This is quantum theory on steroids. Yeah. Yeah.

It's it's the it's the sort of entertainment that you just it's chaos. Yeah. It's people would be losing. They'd be losing it. Yeah. Yeah. That's what reality TV shows should really be for is taking people who could otherwise hurt the whole of humanity and making them dance for our amusement.

That would be fun. Yeah. I was watching some of the Taskmaster and I was thinking about how that is really what makes the show charming is essentially trying in a fun way to make people lose their minds. Yeah. And that is a benign version of I think there's a lot of malicious versions of it in reality TV. Oh, for sure.

And I think in order for this to work, it would have to be malicious with Alex and Trump. Yeah. Well, it would be. And if we were trying to be not malicious, the entirety of the idea is built around a malicious thought we have. So what if they do mushrooms in a room and you leave just one Rubik's cube in there, but it's rigged so it can never be solved and one of them has to shave their head at the end of it.

And then Stone Cold comes in and then there's a stunner. What are we going to do with our lives? Well we're going to jump into the 28th. Let's go for it. It's not fun because now the shooting Alex will actually address it and discuss it. And so, yeah, from here on out, but pretty much everything is going to be gross. Alex is a gross guy and shit sucks. Great.

A lot of lies, not as graphic necessarily as he is sometimes. So there's at least that saving grace, but yeah, a lot of the rhetoric pretty shitty. So here we go. Tennessee is collapsing around us every form of crime and degeneracy is exploding off the charts, not just the United States worldwide. We are a fallen civilization and it's only going to get worse. Yesterday as the mass shooting unfolded in Tennessee at a school where darling little children and others were killed, I did not comment on the broadcast other than saying

the shooting had happened because I wanted to give it time to see what unfolded. But Scott the producer walked in right when it happened and he said how much money you want to bet? This is a transgender person and that's because now about 80% of the time the school shooters are transgender and the media tries to cover it up. That's categorically false no matter how you splice or try to massage the numbers. What has happened here is that Alex has seen a meme those floating around in right-wing social media circles that sought to paint the picture that most shooters are LGBTQ,

but right out of the gate, they include the club cue shooter as someone who's non-binary when all evidence points to the conclusion that that was him trolling in an attempt to avoid hate crime charges perhaps. In reality, Alex went on air and reported that the shooter in Uvaldi was a trans person based on troll posts from places like 4chan and to my knowledge, he's never taken the time to apologize or correct that serious misreporting and actually he re-reports that later in this episode, so that's fun. Alex is seeking to paint the picture that the media covers up these school shooters

are trans because if you try to look into it, you'll find that they aren't and he needs an explanation for that lack of evidence for his claim. This position would be totally vindicated if it weren't for an elaborate media cover-up that's going on. This naturally raises the question of why the media isn't covering up anything about this current shooter and their reported potential gender identity. It seems like maybe the media doesn't actually cover that stuff up, but Alex needs the audience to think that they do so it's easier for his hate-mongering and exaggeration to fly and

be accepted. The truth or falsity of this statement that LGBTQ people are responsible for the majority of mass shootings or school shootings is a meaningless question to people like Alex. It doesn't need to be true because the truth or falsity is not what they're conveying to the audience. Alex is trying to make sure the audience sees LGBTQ folk and trans people in particular as the enemy and a very dangerous enemy, a very dangerous enemy that the media is covering for.

It's a waste of time to argue the underlying points that someone like Alex or Matt Walsh or Ben Shapiro have been making in the aftermath of this shooting because the underlying points are meaningless to them to begin with. They're happy to use this tragedy to attack trans people, but lumbast people for discussing gun control after any other shooting because they detest the tasteless politicization of tragedy. They don't detest the politicization, they just know when politicization can be useful to them and they're savvy enough to pretend to be above it when they know they can't

use that tragedy. As much as I do believe that pretending that their underlying points mean anything is a trap. It's still incredibly important to recognize what is going on and to push back on it as strongly as possible. The anti-trans rhetoric is escalating in ways and at speeds that should be terrifying to anyone who's paying attention and that cannot be ignored. It's a strange balancing act because this shooting is being used as an excuse for these

right-wing commentators to ramp up their bigotry, but they don't actually care about the shooting. As we saw earlier in this episode, Alex was doing sensational bullshit anti-trans story as already and Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles have been calling for an elimination of trans identity for weeks if not months prior to this shooting. They're just using this as a prop. They hate trans people. That's the only point worth paying attention to, not whatever window dressing they're throwing on their hate today.

They don't care about that window dressing and will abandon it for something new tomorrow if it better serves their purposes. This kind of stuff like this 80% of shooters or trans people, it's not worth arguing with. It's not true, but it also doesn't matter to Alex. It's not what he's getting across to the audience. That can be challenging. That can be a difficult place to be in, especially in these very aggressive spaces like the social media where people are firing this stuff off and a lot of times are doing it in such a

way as to incite backlash upon them because it games the system and gets them far more engagement with their posts. I don't know. I don't have a prescription for it, but it sucks. Yeah. I suppose in the world where next week we'll forget about this because there'll be another one, it doesn't make any sense to try and backlash these assholes. Twitter's a shambles, Facebook is ridiculous, all of the social medias are dumb, media itself

is woefully unequipped to handle shit like this, so it's going to be forgotten next week. The only thing I think of is, here's the job of cis white men in this world. As the anti-trans rhetoric blows up, we've seen this all, it is our job to put our bodies in between them and trans people, that is our responsibility. We're the only people who can stand in between them and all too often there's just a support and there's not a willingness to get in the middle. I agree with that when those circumstances present themselves, I don't think that they are always-

Well, I mean, don't walk around with it and be like, hey, there's a bus, yes, obviously, but yes. I agree with you in principle when that situation presents itself. Outside of that, I think that there is a real need to push back on this stuff, but like I'm saying, what you're pushing back on is going to be difficult to figure out. Because so much of this stuff, like I'm saying, is they don't really care about the thing that they're saying. That's not really important.

They're making a crypto argument underneath whatever they're nominally saying per se. It made sense to push back on it a long time ago. We're way past that. That's true, but we are past whatever point you're describing, but at the same time, ignoring things and letting things stand is also not a great option. No, I mean, I'm just saying there's no point in arguing on social media. Maybe. I don't know.

There is. I'm a little agnostic to that. I think as a person, I agree, but that also might be my psychology. Sure. I don't know if that's true for everyone, but it might be. I don't know. I think that you're not going to achieve anything by arguing these particular points with these folks for sure, and I also think that generally speaking, just saying you are hiding this

hate behind these arguments you don't really care about. I don't think that's going to lead anywhere either, but that's the truth that is. So if the truth isn't going to go anywhere, then don't bother. And we're already again, this may be made sense after fucking Columbine. This may be made sense after fucking Sandy Hook. This doesn't. It doesn't make sense. Any conversation that you are going to have means nothing.

We're already past it. It may be. And maybe the other way to put that, because that's kind of do me and downer-ish, is there are better places to place attention. I mean, I'm not saying that that's the end of the conversation. I'm saying that this conversation needs to end because we can no longer do the same thing over and over and over again. That's fair.

We're way past that. Those attentions and efforts and time and. It's got to go somewhere else. It can be, it can be channeled in something more productive, perhaps make buttons instead of arguing on info instead of arguing on Twitter, make buttons for everybody you fucking know. Don't threaten me with a good time. I mean, that's why I love buttons. You know what I'm saying?

Like there is no point in arguing. Do a thing physically to help other people. Hey, I think, I think there's a lot to be said for doing something physically to help other people. I think there's a something you get for yourself out of it and you don't even know it's sneaky. Yeah, right? So you get angry on Twitter, but maybe if you make a button, you'll feel great. So Alex thinks that he doesn't hate trans people and the reason is one person.

There are a lot of people that are transgender that are really nice like Blair White is a Caitlyn Jenner who's a very sweet, smart, good person. And I, and I, and I, and I think she, you know, believes she's a woman and acts like a woman and, you know, if she wants to be a woman, she can be a woman. She doesn't want to go compete with women in sports, any of that stuff, but crazed men beating women in sports and women all hopped up on men's hormones now committing mass shootings. I mean, women never commit mass shootings. In fact, it's never been heard of.

And now, now it's happening. So of course, Alex likes Blair White. She's a disaster of a public figure who has all of the same terrible politics and bigotries that Alex and his ilk do, but she's also trans. She can be used as a prop to prove they don't hate trans people. Folks like Alex need that pretty desperately. You can tell that Alex likes Blair White because he thinks she's feminine enough for him to see her as a woman and her transness doesn't encroach on any of the larger, hollow

culture war topics he pretends to care so much about like women's sports. In fact, a majority of Blair's public existence is based on trying to place limits on other people's transness and make videos about people who she thinks are going too far or whatever. Yeah. Her brand is essentially I'm one of the good ones and look at all these other people who are bad. Yeah.

I had actually planned to do an episode about Blair a while back because I think that she exists in a really interesting space and Alex has been on her podcast twice. So there was some content there. But I ultimately decided not to because looking into her made me really sad and I didn't know what to do with those feelings. At least in point three years ago, she put out a video where she was sitting next to her couch on the floor. Her makeup was smudged from crying where she's discussing something that she'd never talked

about before. Here's a little clip from that, which I found really difficult to reconcile. I feel like I have in case it doesn't go up, I feel like I've like lied about certain parts of my life online. I know I've lied about certain parts of my life online. My family, in interviews and in answers during live streams and anytime it's brought up, I like to paint this picture, which is a lie, like flat out just fabricated of that my family is accepting of me and that everything's good and everything's PG clean and my transition

was easy and like I don't know why I've lied about that. So blatantly I think it's because it was like easier for me. It's hard to listen to this because on the one hand I empathize with Blair's experience because it obviously wasn't easy for her as it is for folks, everyone. I'm certain that that that's true. But on the other hand, it's incredibly difficult to hold on to too much care about her when you consider the reality of what she's saying. She didn't lie about her transition being easy because it's somehow emotionally more

easy for her to do that. She did it because if she admitted to the challenges she's faced, it would severely undercut her entire brand. The people she hates on and who are her political targets are the people who are working to create a better world where people like young Blair wouldn't have to have had such a hard time being herself, acknowledging that you really could have used more care and more support in your younger days means the trans activists have a point and that that's not a point that you can really rebut unless you pretend that they don't have a point, which

you can achieve by pretending that your lived experience doesn't match up at all with what those activist types are saying. It's profitable for Blair to lie about her transition. That's why she did it later in the video. She talks about how her dad's side of the family disowned her because she's trans and that really sucks. Really alienation is a real nightmare and no one deserves to experience that just for being themselves.

Given that she's experienced all this in her life, I don't believe for a second that she doesn't realize that Alex Jones' career in rhetoric is designed around creating more people like her dad's family. I don't believe for a second that she doesn't realize that the brand she's created is trying to position herself as the one good trans person which facilitates the stigmatization of all trans people who aren't her. On some level, she understands this. This next clip from that video really spoke to me about that awareness.

Any time I've been lucky enough to do television, I've always tried to contact my family just to be like, hey, turn on this channel at this time just because I thought maybe if they see that I'm successful and I'm not some horrible transgender stereotype of a prostitute or just a desolate person that maybe they would come around and say maybe Blair's not that bad, but they've never watched. Blair wanted her family to see that she was one of the good ones. They hate her for who she is, but maybe if they saw that she was also demonizing trans people, they would accept her then.

She's essentially discussing chasing the acceptance and approval of people who hate a fundamental aspect of who she is, which she's never going to achieve with her family, but she can achieve with Alex and all these other right-wing figures. There's a profit motive there, and they need somebody they can use as a prop to deflect criticism about their transphobia so she'll be adored in that circle, which she is. But it comes with a cost, and apparently even though it hurts quite a bit, Blair thinks that arrangement is worth it. So no, I don't particularly care if Alex likes Blair White because he doesn't actually,

or at least he wouldn't if she was honest about her experience. Because then, she'd say that her dad's family disowned her for being trans, and Alex would have to admit that he thinks that they did the right thing. Anyway, sorry about that little side trip. Back to Alex's actual clip, there have been female mass shooters before. It's certainly more rare than male ones, but they do exist. Naseem Agdam carried out the shooting at the YouTube campus back in 2018. Nashveen Malik was one of the San Bernardino shooters in 2015.

Jennifer San Marcos killed six people at a California post office. It's rare, but it's not unheard of. So go fuck yourself, Alex. Yeah, I mean, to your point, Blair wasn't elevated. There was just a job opportunity. You know, there was an opening. The right anti-trans needed a trans person, and she took the job because there was something she hoped to gain from that, which is the acceptance and approval of her family.

Unfortunately, she went the wrong route, that was never going to happen. Perhaps. I mean, you know, there's some elements of psychoanalyzing, but, you know, who knows exactly why she took whatever career that she did. Apologies. Yes. I mean, it was a job opportunity. I'm not saying that I understand the reasons that she chose it.

What she has said in the clip right there is indicative of that being a possibility. It's clear that that was a hope. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know. It bombs me out. And I think you can see from just those two clips why I was like, I'm not going to do a whole episode about this because there is like a bit of like, ah, damn, I find it very

difficult when these right-wing figures have these moments of vulnerability that you can kind of see through to humanity beneath it, because, ah, I don't know. Whoops. You shouldn't have done it. Well, it also shows an awareness that makes it almost worse. No, it makes it way worse. It makes it way worse. You're purposefully and willfully hurting a community that would welcome you.

With open arms. What a bummer. Yeah. What a bummer. Anyway, Alex hates, he doesn't hate trans people, he thinks. Cheats transgender-ness or something. Sure. Trans-humanist.

Hate the sin, not the sinner. If you accept a man being a woman, a woman being a man, if you'll accept two men having a baby, when it's two women or a man and a woman, Arnold Schwarzenegger had a man. If you will accept that, you'll accept chimeric humanoids that are made out of three or four dads or two or three moms or some other people which they're now producing and making for decades and testives. I'm down. You'll accept the entire globalist agenda.

I do not hate people that are trans. I do not think that the average person that is living like that is a mass shooter or a bad person. That said, the entire movement is a synthetic creation for depopulation and to totally confuse society and bring up the family and that's admitted. Alex's position is incoherent. If he believed the things he's saying sincerely, he would not support and platform someone like Blair White.

If Alex truly believed that transgenderism is a plot by the Tavistock Institute to bring in transhumanism and destroy the family, then the people who are trans are people who have been fooled by the Tavistock Institute. They're brainwashed pawns of the plot to destroy the family, so even if you want to treat them like people and be somewhat nice to them, you're kind of behoove to reject them and their trans identity. Otherwise, you're promoting the destruction of the family. Well, I mean, not just that, but you can never trust anyone who is brainwashed by the

Tavistock Institute and the CI fucking A. Right. I mean, if you're brainwashed on one front, who knows how many others? I mean, well, the obvious thing is that the CIA would be like, well, we want to put a plant in here. That's the most obvious thing. Yeah. In reality, if this were 15, 20 years ago, the Tavistock Institute's evil plan to destroy

the family would be getting people to accept gay folks because this stuff doesn't really mean anything. This is just adding an intellectual sounding rationale behind the present day's bigotry. Right. Which is, again, another reason why these conversations are so repetitive and pointless is just, yes, I understand the nonsense you're saying, but you don't understand that I heard this nonsense five years ago, and then I heard it 10 years ago, and then I heard it 15 years ago.

It's the, it's the window dressing changing. I was raised on Dr. James fucking Dobson, a focus on the goddamn family. I know your dumb fuck arguments. Okay. So shut up. So Alex, while discussing this shooting brings up what I would describe as maybe the first source he has on this. Here's a break now.

Notice the pattern, Colorado Springs shooter identifies as non-binary, Denver shooter identifies as trans, the Evoldi shooter was into that too, Aberdeen shooter identifies as trans, Nashville shooter identified as trans, confused, freaked out, whacked out people on major, major, major hormones. And you know, I've talked to a lot of medical doctors about this over the years and they make the point that, you know, the group that gives divorces, the most often and married couples statistically is people doing hormone therapy to try to get pregnant. A 45 year old woman trying to get pregnant, they have to put them on a bunch of hormones

to get them jacked up to do it. And they go crazy jacked up and I've known people that tried to get pregnant and did get pregnant. So this, like I said, is about the first primary source Alex is citing in terms of his coverage of the shooting and it's that meme that went around which is super inaccurate. The Colorado Springs shooter was the Club Q shooter and the Evoldi shooter wasn't even in the meme but Alex vaguely remembers his own shitty reporting so he throws them in. This isn't a sincere point that's being made and honestly it comes off more like parody.

These are the examples that these folks can find whereas the thousands of other mass shootings apparently didn't happen or something. Yeah. Further, whenever there are these shootings, Alex insists on not ascribing group blame. He screams about how all white people are to blame when shooting for shooting because the shooter was a white supremacist or how all gun owners are being blamed because the person had a ton of guns with them. It's easy to see how that is kind of a meaningless principle for him and he's more than willing

to throw it to the side when there's the opportunity to imply group blame on groups he doesn't like when that pops up that opportunity he takes it. He doesn't want to feel like groups he's a part of are being discussed in relation to mass shootings but if it's a group he spends most of his time demonizing, group blame is pretty cool. Yeah. Also, I don't know about the pregnancy hormone divorce thing. I have no idea how I would go about checking up on it since apparently it's something

some doctor personally told Alex but it's weird that the example Alex comes up with isn't a guy on steroids or maybe that hits too close to home. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't want to bring any attention to that. No, no, no. I mean, I wrestle with this. I wrestle with this thought. I am disgusted by how many people are willing to think that this is notable because to me

this is a statistical inevitability. It doesn't mean anything and the only people who are making it mean more than it does are well people profiting off of it. I get what you're saying. You're talking about the shooting. I get what you're saying and here is what I would say in response to that. First of all, everything is tragic. And while there is an inevitability about it in living in our bad present day, there

is also when you're saying, you know, like basically talking about it is like it's inevitable. Why are you making a big deal out of it? Fair enough. Fair enough. Keep going. There are malicious actors, folks like Alex, folks like Matt Walsh and Shapiro. These folks in particular who have been more than willing to talk about it in a way to use this event in order to steer hate in a certain direction.

That is worth talking about. I would contend that that is. So I get what you're saying in terms of the futility of talking about like gun violence and stuff. And that is a bummer. That is very disappointing that we keep doing this and we keep coming to an end where progress isn't made. We end up in the same situation and there'll be another shooting in a week or whatever.

That sucks. That is, there is a feeling of futility surrounding that conversation. And I understand where you're coming from, however, I think it is. I think there does need to be a big deal made out of resisting and pushing back against the narrative building that people like Alex and his ilk are engaging in surrounding the shooting. I mean, well, I mean, yes, yes, that I do agree with. I just don't find this shooting particularly notable as compared to the last one.

How many have you, you listed off multiple shootings by women that I did not even remember or know about. Those seem to be notable to me, right? We've talked about them on the podcast. That's what I'm saying. That is my point exactly. I understand that and I don't think these are two things that are at odds with each other.

I agree with you. But I would say the reason that this shooting is notable and should be treated as such is the conversation that's surrounding it and the way that it is being used as an excuse to ramp up transphobia and a hostile environment towards a particular group. Right. I mean, I agree with that, but I agree with that because that's a generalized statement. If this wasn't the thing that we were talking about for their attack on trans people, it would be trans people were at the store.

It wouldn't be as aggressive. You're shrugging at me. I mean, would it be as aggressive? It wouldn't be. Maybe it wouldn't be as aggressive. How far off would it be? Right. Quite a bit.

Because the shooting and murder of people at an elementary school is a potent fuel in a way that people being at the store is not. It triggers people's emotional centers in a way that you can build things that are far more nefarious out of it than you could otherwise. You override a lot of people's critical thinking abilities when especially murdered children are involved. So no, I disagree with your premise. Then my question to you is, do you think that this is just accelerant?

It's accelerant. Do you know what I mean? This incident is. The way it's being used, I believe. Right. Yeah. The problem with this is that it's an accelerant to a fire that's already happening. Yeah, but I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

Yeah. But when an accelerant is added to something, you get to be careful and you got to take it seriously. Sure. Sure. I mean, I'm just looking at a house on fire and people are like, watch out for that gasoline that you're throwing on it. And I'm like, no, I understand.

The gasoline is bad. I agree with you wholeheartedly. This house on fire does not need more gasoline. I understand your metaphor and I think in the case of a literal fire, I agree with you. I just don't think that the metaphor is exactly applicable because you're saying people aren't trying to put out the fire. People aren't working on that or whatever. Whereas in the case of a fire, firefighters come and they can share.

Whereas in this case, it's not to say that firefighting is an easy job, but it's not as simple as, hey, we just got to throw water here. Right. Right. And then the lot of good people who are doing a lot of good work would have thrown that water already. Of course. Yeah.

Yeah. So we agree. I don't think we disagree, but I don't think that I don't think a lot of the way you're coming at it is necessarily what I would agree with. I think we agree larger picture, but maybe some of the some of the feelings I don't agree with. Yeah. I mean, I respect that.

That's fine. Not everybody has to have the same feelings. I don't know what else to say. Yes. I agree with you. And I accept you. Sweet. So anyway, Alex lies more about, uh, all these shootings, everyone's, uh, all these shooters

are trans people. And as they hype the mass shootings, they will increase and they will get worse because mentally ill people are now taught, you don't just become transgender. You go out and you shoot and you kill people. And now the majority of mass shooters that are technically the, the totally senseless type is the FBI averages in gang shootings that are at schools and then says, well, half of them are black on black or black on Hispanic or Hispanic on Hispanic. But if you take those out that are gang shootings and you just have raw going to school, shoot

a bunch of kids, this is it. And they fight to hide that. But these are the incredibly unhappy, depressed, demonically brainwashed, I mean, I don't know what term we should really use to break it down, but we have a lower animal brain. I would challenge Alex on his claim that he's making about most school shootings being trans people. I know that it's not true. And he's just making it up to demonize a group of people he doesn't like.

But I would like to see him have to defend his position. Yeah. Even a little bit. Yeah. What source are you pulling that from? Anything. And I swear, I swear it cannot be an unverified made up conversation with a high level anonymous source.

Totally. It cannot be. Please. I will, I will add meme to that. It also cannot be a meme. No, it can be because then we can discard it. Well, that's fair. Yeah.

I will reject it if you want to present that. It won't, it won't, it won't fly. But that's. All right. And judge, judge Dan has said you cannot bring forth the evidence from a made up doctor conversation. No, no, no. You can bring the meme for that is physical evidence.

And I shall remove it from my courtroom. And I will laugh at you. It is exactly like when Ray Nall brought in his props. His board. Do you remember the board? Oh, we got it. We got to get that. I wanted that poster.

That's somewhere in a dumpster that I'm willing to die for. It's gone. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. It was for the day. Yeah. Yeah.

So Alex starts rambling about how like trans people are demonic and stuff because that's what he thinks. I wanted to show this video last Friday saying here's the spirit of the new world order of a young lady. It looks like she's on steroids or something totally crazed, smoking out of a vape pen acting completely demonically possessed. But when you see that, ladies and gentlemen, that's the face of the wavelength these people have dialed into.

And it's a spirit of selfishness, a spirit of hatred. It's a demonic spirit. And that's what hardcore drugs does to you. Look at the tattoo on her chest of a big demon. And that, my friends, is why we have guns so that when he's whacked out devils, what? What former humans that fell to Satan, what to hurt us and come to hurt our children. Jesus. We have to mod the flame we can protect the children like the police officers did.

Let's go ahead and roll the footage again of them taking this young disturbed, taken over person out. Yeah. He seems to relish a little bit in playing the video of the shooter being killed. And it's it's a little bit poor taste. You know, I haven't had, I didn't look this up. I'm going to go ahead and look this up right now. But the thought I had is every time we read about a suicide, there is always the school

or the suicide prevention hotline. What I have not seen is a school shooting prevention hotline, you know, like to me, one of the simplest things that we should have is like a, are you in the place where you're thinking of doing this call this number because it to me, it is so similar to a suicide. It might as well be the same fucking line. I think I think a lot of people probably have that as a part of their plan, you know, people who go through with shootings probably don't intend necessarily to come out the other end. Right.

Right. But the simple thing that we could have for all of these articles that we read pretty fucking constantly is a note is a resource is something at the end of this article to say, if you are one of these people who is concerned about your own actions, who is thinking about doing these things, call this hotline and we can talk to you about that. It's anonymous, obviously, and there's no cops, which is the first thing that I would say. Sure.

You know, but that that is a positive resource. You know what? An outlet that can be there. I don't think that would work. But as I'm hearing you say it, that's something to try, you know, like, I mean, we're not doing anything. It could. It could bear results.

I mean, maybe it saves one school. Yeah, that matters. That matters, you know, like we should have this, we should have this resource available for the people who are thinking of doing this because this is a is a suicide one way or the other. This is a rejection of one's own life. Yeah, I wonder if something like that does exist and it's just not. I just looked it up and I didn't see it.

That's why that's why I was like, before I bring this up, I better look it up to see if there is one. Yeah. And I didn't see any. Hmm. I saw all these like, if you're at a school, here's what you should do to stop a shooter. Yeah. None of these like, hey, if you're thinking of doing this, here's a resource for you.

Yeah. I think I think a lot of things just in general of, you know, destigmatizing the idea of asking for help. Yeah. And the the, you know, I think I think a lot of people maybe have impressions growing up that feeling like you need help makes you weak or like, I know I did. Yeah. And maybe helping people not feel that way could also be helpful.

I mean, just just having somebody that you can rely on and trust to talk to you and who you know, won't lie to you and isn't a cop and isn't a fucking cop, you know. Also Alex is a full of transphobic garbage. Yeah. That's a lot of bullshit. Yeah. I was trying to focus on something that we can do about it instead of wallowing and how fucking miserable and awful this human being is.

Yeah. He sucks. Yep. And keeps going. He sucks more. Let's go ahead and roll the footage again of them taking this young, disturbed, taken over person out and understand it is good people with guns that stopped this monster before she was able to kill even more people.

And notice we are misgenerating her because we misgender on purpose. No, the real gender, she's a woman, hopped up on a bunch of hormones and drugs, who fell to the dark side. Here's the video. So while to hear that cops are now good guys with guns, a little good guys with guns narrative is that you needed to have a gun on you so you could act fast before the police were able to arrive because there's a delay. Remember his Uvaldi shooting coverage?

It seems real strange. Yeah. Almost like none of this means anything. None of it matters. Alex is just relishing and watching this person be shot. Ow, could be what he's saying. To the matter of him misgendering on purpose, that speaks volumes about his position on trans people.

He believes they do not exist. Yep. In his mind, he's willing to put up with what he considers Blair White's dumb and accurate self perception because she's useful to him and because she has the right kind of hateful politics. But he definitely does not think that she's a woman. He's willing to extend her the courtesy of not misgendering her because it's advantageous to him.

But when the rubber meets the road, if she were to insist to Alex that she's a woman and that it's not play acting for her, Alex would not agree with that. If he were her dad's side of the family and she insisted on him accepting that aspect of her identity, he would disown her in a second and then maliciously misgender her whenever she came up. That's who Alex is. He's not misgendering the shooter because they're a shooter. That doesn't factor into the assessment of whether or not their gender identity was valid.

Alex believes this about all trans people. But because this particular person did a horrible thing, it's easier for him to be blunt about his beliefs when discussing that. And that is who he is. Yeah. Yeah. White plainly. It's such a bummer.

Like with Blair, you know, that job opportunity is always open. You don't have to take that job because that job entails being paid well and yet always living on the knife's edge of being rejected by all communities. You know, once you go to info wars and they inevitably reject you the moment you are no longer useful or the moment they can, you know, then you're not going to be welcomed back into the into the trans community. It's not. I mean, well, actually, maybe some people probably will, but that's because they're

better people than I think on the more liberal and progressive sides, there is an interest in rehabilitative kind of restorative kind of. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. I think that people can come back from pretty negative places, assuming that they're willing to do the work and, and it, you know, really inspect what they were up to before. Right.

But yeah, it's all just a bummer. Yeah. You live on the knife's edge. So it's it's pretty shitty. Mm hmm. Yep. Oh, well. Yep.

You live with guns, with cops, and here's another rewriting of everything. I'm not glad that the killer's dead. I wish that they wouldn't have fallen to Satan, but there's a real sense of satisfaction knowing that she was unable to kill more people. And it was the second amendment that stopped this monster that planned this out reportedly according to the police for months. It's going to hit another school, but didn't hit it because they had too much security. But this is a lesson, locks on the door and not what protected the children.

It was guns. The second amendment doesn't factor into this at all. No, it was armed police who stopped the shooter. If anything, the second amendment helped make the shooting happen because the shooter was able to buy all those guns totally legally. Yeah. I honestly think Alex is really confused on this one. He's evoking good guy with a gun talking points and saying that the second amendment

came to the rescue, but none of that's involved here at all. I suspect it's because he needs to skirt around some of his more general shooting narratives, like it being a false flag or how they need to arm the teachers. Those are good when he needs to distract from the details about the shooter because they're super right wing white guys who have identical politics to Alex. In this case, the identity of the shooter is central to the right wing media's approach. So Alex has to dispel with some of his normal distraction based talking points. And it's kind of weird to listen to, honestly.

Yeah. He seems he seems in a strange place. I mean, there's a lot of hate, obviously, which is he's perfect. He understands what he's doing there. But yeah, the talking about the shooting is convoluted. Yeah. I mean, he doesn't have that much practice. In this specific circumstance, this is a little bit new for him.

So I imagine so, yeah. So Alex has a guest coming on. And don't worry, we're not going to listen to him because he's a pile of shit troll. So this is a planned operation. Now that said, Alex Stein's coming on next hour to talk about this. He just got attacked over the weekend going to one of these events because these are entitled hateful people on average that are the activists that really usually aren't even trans.

Their main thing is access to children. And there's a always huge pedophilic vibe in the air. Oh, really? Fuck off. Yeah. So Alex Stein, I don't, I don't, I got no respect for, for him as a, even a person to listen to. Yeah.

I really, really resent people who insist on kind of having it both ways of the, like, never know whether I'm joking or if this position is something I should be taken seriously for. Yeah. I really, really, really don't like that kind of bullshit. He dances in those waters a lot. And then also he has, like, essentially a career that revolves almost entirely around, like, trying to bait outrage from people in order to get attention.

So he can, he can fuck right off. Yeah. I'm putting, I'm, I'm de-platforming him. Yeah. I think that's a good idea. Yeah. I like that. Yeah.

I just, no interest. Yeah. You know, I keep coming back to that, that idea of a phone, you know, a hotline, like, if this was planned for months, right, obviously she can't talk to anybody because everybody is the target. And you would assume that there would probably be moments where you're thinking like, should I be doing this? Like, if they have doubts, you'd hope, you'd hope there would be those moments.

Wow. I mean, if you're planning for months on anything, you have to have doubts. Otherwise, you would have just gone and done it, right? That is true. So who are they going to talk to? They can't talk to anybody at the school again. The school is the target. They can't talk to their parents.

Their parents are part of the reason we are here. From what I understand, they were a former student there, not current. I mean, all of these things, I understand the details here, but you understand what I'm saying. Yeah. It's like, this is an intervention point that no one has the ability to intervene on because that's the reason. And the only way for it to be intervened on almost is self-directed from the person.

It has to be. It has to be anonymous. And it has to be, you know, again, I don't know how many people would apprise themselves of that, but I think there's something interesting there. Yeah. Yeah. So we are going to listen to Alex Stein, but we are going to listen to Alex get really weird, some transphobia, and then also something really weird.

Okay. You can do whatever you want. I prefer it weird. Hang your hair wherever you want. Have sex with whoever you want, as long as they're considering adult. You think I'm actually running around thinking about trans people all day or hanging them? No, I'm not. Actually, yes, kind of.

I'm a live and let live guy, but in the roaring twenties in Germany, they had the transgender movement that spread worldwide from there. I picked up later in the sixties by British intelligence, and it is the hallmark of a society before it collapses. And the system knows this, so they've accelerated in the sixties and seventies and in the famous rat studies where they would have contained cities of rats and give them all the food and all the water they wanted. So in three generations, the males become trans and the females become the bosses.

And then within another generation, they all just start eating each other or committing suicide. And then within about eight generations, there are no rats left. We've got whole shows on that. Whole shows. So in this rat city, right? Did they achieve Bronze Age tools? That's my first question.

We'll get to all of this in a minute. Okay. That's my first question. So trans stuff didn't start in Germany pre-World War II, but Alex is kind of tipping his Nazi cards here. Right. One of the biggest targets of the Nazis was the Institute for Sexual Science and its head, Magnus Hirschfeld.

Hirschfeld is a pioneer in research around issues related to sex and gender, which were seen as societal perversions and attacked by the Nazis and their rise to power. On May 6th, 1933, the Institute was ransacked by Nazi youth along with SA officers. Much of the materials that were looted from that were burned, and a giant book burning shortly after. If Alex believes the trans identity being accepted as a sign of society and collapse, then he has to think that the Nazis were trying to stop that collapse. Yeah.

At the very least, Alex and the Nazis are in pretty solid agreement in their views here. Yeah, I'm confused. He pretty much just said, yeah, I love the Nazis. Yeah, maybe you'd like some of their work. Yeah. Alex is also just making shit up about these rat studies. So he's talking about John B. Calhoun's experiments, which gave rise to the concept of behavioral sync.

This isn't about the decadence or generational decay. The thing that was discovered by these experiments was that if rats are in an enclosed space and allowed to reproduce freely, their behavioral patterns will change in strange ways. Calhoun found that in this artificial setting, the rats tended to impose their own areas of high population density. They could spread out to tons of other areas, but they ended up congregating heavily in the pen that was where the feeding happened. Like this feeding part of the pen.

Interesting. Yeah. In the case of eating, this transformation did not keep the animals from securing adequate nutrition, but the same pathological togetherness that tended to disrupt the ordered sequences of activity involved in other vital modes of behavior, such as courting of sex partners, the building of nests, and the nursing and care of the young. In the experiments in which the behavioral sync developed, infant mortality ran as high as 96% among the most disordered groups in the population.

A large part of this has to do with the effect of overcrowding on disruption of rat behavior, which was somewhat mitigated in other parts of the pens, where the population density didn't get as high. In these pens, infant mortality was much lower, and generally they'd have less rats in there. They wouldn't end up congregating into this one pen, and they would have a male rat who would establish dominance over a harem of female rats who would then have the time and space to protect their young during weaning.

There were dominant males, and then underneath them, in this societal weirdness, there were some males that were unable to distinguish sexual partners. They would try to mate with male rats, juveniles, and females that were not in estrus. I'm not sure if this is the dynamic that Alex is depicting, I'm sure Alex isn't depicting it accurately, but that's kind of what he's hearkening to. They also found that some non-dominant rats began to become basically sleepwalkers, only going to eat when everyone else was asleep. They were completely passive, never engaging in fights for dominance, nor even trying to

fuck female rats. Just kind of like weird night monks. There were also a small group of hypersexual rats that Calhoun called the Probers, who were totally out of pocket. They were just trying to fuck anything, and they'd engage in cannibalism. They were also total creeps, hiding out on perches, trying to stare at female rats. It's interesting because you can sort of see how you would personify the behavior or anthropomorphize it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. No, I get it. Yeah. I mean, the problem that I have with this research is that it boils down to me to stuff acts weird when you put it in a cage, which I feel like I already knew. I mean, the specifics on how things act weird when you put it in a cage. It's a lot of it's pretty unexpected. Totally.

I get it. Maybe the solution is we should never have put stuff in cages. So in a second experimental setup, they found that this behavioral sink didn't develop when they offered the rats powdered food instead of the food that they had to be getting out of the hopper. The powder was easier to eat quickly, so the act of eating didn't become a strange social thing, and overcrowding in that collective eating pen didn't end up happening. So they kind of theorized that some of it had to do with it taking longer to eat from

these hoppers. Yeah. And so then it became a normalized thing that rats only ate when other rats were around. Sure. And then it just became super overcrowded and it led to a breakdown of all these behavioral, just sort of normal patterns. Right. Right.

It was Maslow's hierarchy of rat needs. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Calhoun's experiments are really interesting for what they are, but I'm not certain they can be applied to humans. And I kind of think that it might even be a really bad idea to try to. I mean, I disagree.

I think you can apply it to humans. If you put humans in cages, they're going to start acting weird. They will start acting weird, but I think probably in a different way. And that is as unexpected as this. And maybe don't put them in cages. So even if these theories and these learned things that you learned from these experiments could be used that way, they reflect the effect of too high a population density on rat behavior, not whatever Alex is going on about.

Right. Also, Alex is pretty much just making up everything about this experiment's results, just based on a vague memory he has of reading some headline about it years ago. The male rats didn't become trans. The females didn't become the boss. The rats weren't all cannibalistic and suicidal. And they weren't all dead after the eighth generation. This is the kind of information you're going to get from Alex Jones.

Shit he's making up about experiments he doesn't understand or remember being deployed in order to demonize vulnerable populations while very cryptically supporting the Nazis. This is not information that is worth being taken seriously. Right. I mean, in terms of an argument, if you distill it down, it sums up something along the lines of it's okay for me to kill trans people because rat society devolved one time in an experiment. That's a reading of it. That seems like what he's kind of trying to argue there.

And the Nazis were right. Anyway, a lot of this sucks and there's so much just hate in this that I was like, I'm going to read this. Yeah. I mean, I agree. Because that was a respite that I was grateful for something else. I'd like to learn about rat society. Yeah.

So in this next clip, Alex very weirdly and confusingly tells his audience not to be violent in retribution. I guess. Great. Here's what I want to announce and say the obvious cause and effect of this is going to be another disturbed but angry pissed off person is going to go to a drag queen story time or one of these trans rallies they have everywhere and it's going to shoot a bunch of these people.

That is the last thing that needs to happen. And we need to upfront say we do not want that people are going to want to avenge these dead kids and other Christians, Christians are being targeted. But there's a time to turn the other cheek and the trans cult minions and gremlins of the system should not be harmed. They should be arrested if they hurt children or get caught doing pedophilia or any of that. We should pass laws. They can't target children.

But we do not need anybody to go attack one of these events or attack any transgender person. And let me go further. I'm not calling for violence. But if you want to know who does all this and who created all this, the history of its own record. So I want to target those groups by exposing them and call for legal action against them. I guess he wants to sue the Tavistock Institute.

So what you need to understand is again the language, the translation of this. Alex recognizes that almost certainly based on the rhetoric that's flying around, based on the way that people are exploiting this to ramp up transphobia, somebody is going to do something violent. And Alex knows that and he's trying to get ahead of it. Preemptive damage control. Yeah. Yep.

That's all that was. That is, I mean, it is, it is fucked up, you know, it's, it's. If you do preemptive damage control, then it kind of implies, you know, the damage is your fault. Yeah, you're, at least you're a part of it. Yep. So I think that's admitting you're the part of the problem. Yep.

Yep. Anyway, Alex thinks that trans people are zombies and then he does your favorite thing, which is. Pray on air. Nope. Oh, say a bunch of words that mean the same thing on a laundry fucking list. And if you want to know the enemy is it's those engineers, the cultural engineers on the top that are doing all this and they're the ones that are the enemy.

Not when you go to one of these pathetic events and there is a bunch of zombie looking crazy people that look like they have been put in a mutation chamber howling and screaming and running around foaming at the mouth. I mean, those are people that we lost to the enemy doesn't mean we don't protect the children. We lost. We don't stay far back from. But they are just the zombies that fell to the enemy. It is the dark globalist alchemist of evil and their science of human destruction that

is the fount, the fountain, the heart, the headwater, the progenitor, the general, the commander, the master. Give five more examples. The field marshal, the hand honcho, the ol' hefe, that is running all that. Oh, we made it to three. The big cheese. Because the next wave is coming. Government forced suicide on children.

Sure. Sure. Sure. We're going to come back with Tucker Carlson predicting it all. I'll Tucker Carlson predicted it all. Sure. I saw a clip of Tucker supposedly predicting that trans violence was coming. It's so strange how he sees Tucker saying that and then, you know, the supposedly trans

person comes, here's the, here's the difficulty. I felt like all the news was covering this, the shooter was trans. And then just before we started recording, I saw an NBC news article that is a bit of like, there's a little bit of uncertainty about exactly what the identity of the shooter was. Well, they're dead. Right. That's true.

So they can't really choose anymore. But people who knew the person didn't have any indication that they were trans. They had another name that they went by and had he him pronouns on one of their social media accounts. And you can make assumptions from there. And I think that maybe it's a fair assumption, but it called into question some of the definitiveness of it. And so that's up in my head a little bit about like, what, what is known and what isn't

known. Right. Right. You know, I don't want to take some kind of an assumption. Well, I think what we are doing though is exactly what we discussed earlier. And that is talking about this in the context of the damage it's being used to do as opposed to wallowing in the identity or misidentity of a shooter. Right.

But here's the only reason I even bring it up is because I was using a sentence and I said, a trans person did a shooting and now I'm like, I'm in my head of like, fair, you know, fair, fair, fair. I get you. I get you. But what I'm saying is Tucker said this shit about trans violence coming. This happens. And now the conclusion is that Tucker called it right literally every single time I've

seen Alex have someone say something was going to happen and then it supposedly happens. It's proof that the person who made the prediction is responsible for the event happening. The prediction was predictive programming like how it was a smoking gun that Fauci said that Trump would face a novel disease in his administration. That was proof that Fauci unleashed COVID. Alex interprets things that other media figures and officials say however works best for him. So much of his show and the ideas behind it really do just come down to his whims. And I think it's profoundly sad that there are people out there who think that an idiot's

whim is a good barometer for truth. So here's Alex introducing the clip of Tucker. We're not going to listen to Tucker's actual clip, but here's him introducing it. All right. But let's get back to Tucker Carlson. Here's Tucker Carlson being criticized last week on March 24th all over Rolling Stone. You name it. This one's LGBTQ nation.

Tucker Carlson is afraid gun-toting trans people will start political violence. And then a few days later, three days later, his prophecy comes true. So here's Tucker from Friday and it happens on Monday. Here's part of the report. So even just based on that, I don't know if I can say that Tucker was vindicated. The shooting wasn't necessarily political violence. It's horrible and it's a tragedy, but do we know if it was political violence? It seems like a bit of a leap, particularly for when Alex was on air talking about this.

All they were doing was trying to disenfranchise trans people of having their second amendment rights. Yeah. That's what that was about. Yeah. And that's something that Alec probably shouldn't be in favor of. Well, you'd think. Yeah.

Yeah. You would think, wouldn't you? It is. It is so stupid. What things Tucker says. That is true. Man, he's not going to have a good time with this indictment. No, no, I doubt it.

No. So anyway, Alex tries to pretend that this, this, this shooting was, he has a, he has a little storyline about it. So Audrey Hale thought that she, who thought she was a man, was being targeted and there's a manifesto they're trying to keep from us, but we're told and we can see on post she made that it was, she was mad at transphobics. The way you get back at those is you shoot some eight, nine year old children to death with a rifle.

So this is definitely a new thing to have women who think they're men out doing what the media advertises mass shootings. And we know the copycat effect that when somebody jumps off the Brooklyn bridge, they go to post cops there for about a week, because a bunch of others will start doing it and it causes like a stampede of lemmings. So now it's kind of out there in the mind of these folks on all these psychotropic rugs and hormones that, well, the way you protest is you just go to a Christian school, you know, an estate that's passing a law that you can't mutilate children surgically and

you, you, you mutilate kids with high powered rifle rounds. That's sick. That's just sick shit that Alex is engaging in it's, I don't even know that probably doesn't deserve any kind of a, you know, I mean, I suppose the only thing to say is you're telling on yourself, buddy, you're not telling on anybody else. That's you. That's your mind. Yep.

So, um, we heard earlier in this episode, uh, an instance of Alex really being concerned about an article about himself that Dan Friesen, the Alex Jones, uh, watcher, uh, had no idea about. Didn't know about. Yeah. Turns out we get a second instance of that. Okay. Did you find it this time?

I'm going to bring up this article because it's about me, but it's, it's illustrative of what's going on. This is all over Twitter, all over Facebook, but I'm even looking, it's been said to me like a hundred times, not just this article, this article is about the trend. And you read the article and it says why Jane Fonda is being compared to Alex Jones after Nashville shooting and it says Jane Fonda said it's time to start killing Christians because they're trying to restrict abortion. And that's just like Alex Jones saying attack schools.

Well, when did I ever see, they know the general public doesn't know about Adam Lanza that did the shooting at Sandy Hook. They, you hear the word Sandy Hook, like Alex Jones. So now it's a whole article about just like Alex Jones once violence, Jane Fonda once violence. What? What? Jane Fonda was on the view a little bit back and, uh, she was asked what alternatives

there are to protesting after the repeal of Roe v Wade and she joked, well, I've thought of murder. For some reason, Newsweek ran an article about how idiots on Twitter were saying that if Alex had to pay a billion dollars for his Sandy Hook coverage, then Fonda should have to pay five billion for making that joke. It's really strange that this passed an editor's desk because it's honestly incoherent. Some people on Twitter were saying that Fonda's comments were quote directly linked to the deadly mass shooting at an elementary school in Nashville, which I'm not sure makes sense,

nor does it justify an article. Is the argument now that the shooter in Nashville was motivated by the restriction of access to reproductive care. I'm confused about how the shooting seems to be about a million different things, depending on which culture war particular Twitter user is concerned about. Like it's very weird. I don't, I can't keep track of all this. Yeah.

Fonda never said anything about Christians. Alex is making that up. And the article even says quote, Jones did not incite violence with his comments. The point is that Alex is absolutely covering this just because it's about him. He should grow up. You would think. Yeah. You would think.

This is so stupid. Yeah. Well, I mean, obviously the, again, he's telling him on, he's telling on himself by saying she said murder Christians. Because what he's saying is the, the people who are against abortion are Christians. And if you are not against abortion, you are not a Christian. It's very simple. It's interestingly dovetails quite a bit into some more of that reveal OP all of her

stuff I've been reading, which is unsettling. That sounds right. Get to that at another time. So um, Alex talks to Alex Stein. He has him as a guest and then the third hour starts and Alex says this and I said, good night. Well, that was an amazing interview with Alex Stein last hour, I think he may top it with Dr. Stella Emmanuel, DrStella, MD.com, what an amazing lady, a fellow Texan, and she was

one of the first of most outspoken doctors with the different alternative treatments that have saved millions of people. She helped educate President Trump and so many others, Stella manual MDs successful position with a active practice in the Houston as well as the founder of firepower ministries. Yep. Stella manual, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin doctor who thinks that people are fucking demons in their sleep and what have you. Yeah.

Yep. Yep. Yeah. No, no, no, no. If we're deep platforming Stein, this is what we got to put on our show right here. This is the stuff that's still coming. I listened to about a half hour of it and I was just a brutal, not good. Yeah.

Honestly, I mean, look, as we're recording this, this is something I think is important. You know, this is an event and the response to it, I think is important and it matters. Yeah. But as we're recording this, it feels like the fact that Trump got indicted is hanging over me. The fact that that is in the news makes almost everything feel like, like, eh, but that will have time. Yeah.

There's going to be several years before this indictment becomes a even a trial. Yeah. Then we'll have sentencing, then we'll have blah, blah, blah, then we'll have blah, blah, blah, blah, then we'll have appeals, then we'll have appeals on appeals. But those things aren't going to cause like a potential drunk freak out. That's a good point. That is a good point. Where the sort of the drumbeat of a drawn out court case isn't necessarily going to elicit

response. That's fair. The news of it, the news of it will. That's fair. Anyway, I think this sucks. Yeah. Obviously. I think Alex is terrible and I think he doesn't really know anything and is operating entirely

off. I mean, in terms of primary sources, it's like weird memories that he has and a memes. Yeah. And it's irresponsible because there is a direct effect that it has on people, you know? I just, I just don't know how long we can keep doing the same shit. I mean, actually I would say this, we're trying to find out, I guess we can't, we can't do the same shit forever. So the question then becomes, when does it stop?

You know, when does the carousel stop and why, and I'm worried about why that's the worry I have. You know, I don't want to like, uh, overblow some kind of, uh, uh, compliment towards you or anything. But like, that is an idea that you have about the hotline thing that is, it's, it gets around the right wingers, uh, uh, reluctance to do literally anything about guns. Yeah. I'm not saying that your idea would, uh, be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course not.

There may be other things like it that like, obviously gun control is this dead end, right? Where you're never going to make progress on it, though, maybe don't stop trying. Sure. But, you know, stop trying in a political sensor and an argumentative sensor and like, if we can reach across the aisle sensor, any of that bullshit, get rid of that shit or done, or maybe keep some of that up where it's appropriate, but also maybe there are other things that can be implemented, uh, in places that are creative outside of the box solutions.

Yeah. And maybe there's a, there's an impact that can be made from that. And so maybe trying the same thing isn't always trying the same thing. Maybe there are, there are other things that can be tried in concert with other things. I think, I think I'm more, I'm more thinking this, all right, the solutions to these problems are going to be bottom up. We're not going to get top down solutions from this. Yeah.

And even the ones that are top down are probably going to be caused by the bottom, uh, either demanding or, uh, something coming, uh, some sort of pressure coming from, uh, the bottom up. Yep. I would, I think I, I would agree with that. So I think that's, I think that's where we're at, where it's like, if you want to do something, now's the time you should do something positive. I'm going to start the hotline.

I should, I mean, honestly, I think I, the problem is I'm not the person to talk to. That's true. I'm very much not the person to talk to. Yeah. Cause my first thought is like, well, your anger is going to the wrong place. And then we're in a different conversation. Yeah. I don't want that one.

No. So if somebody else would like to start the hotline, I will make a donation. To get it off the ground. I think we should all make a donation to get it off. I don't know if it is possible, but you know, I'll do more buttons. I mean, I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like it is a situation where we got to stop arguing or doing anything like that and start thinking of in new ways to tackle this.

I don't think, I don't think that's negative at all. And I don't, I don't think that's, uh, I think that, uh, it has a, uh, maybe a slight appearance of defeatism, but it also has a hopefulness and a productive place that energies can be channeled. Yeah. I mean, it's not doomed to be like, well, this shit doesn't work. Let's try something different. Yeah.

No. Yep. So, uh, fuck Alex real big piece of shit sucks real big piece of shit. And we'll be back on Monday to see how he responds to Trump being indicted. Indeed. We will. But until then we have a website. Indeed we do.

Yep. Uh, we're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight. Yep. We'll be back. But until then I'm Leo. Leo.

DC X Clark. Oh, you know what? Yeah. And now here comes the sex robots, Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller.

I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.