Knowledge Fight - #80: October 16-26, 2015
Episode Date: September 5, 2017Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the 17th installment of his investigation into why Alex Jones signed up with Donald Trump back in 2015. The mystery is unraveling a lot differently than expected, and... that trend does not stop here. Topics covered today include: What happened to the "real life Crocodile Dundee?" Has Alex ever been in a comic book? Is tap water a "gay bomb?"
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Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
So Alex I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back knowledge fight
I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around to have novelty beverages in our mouths and talk about
Wow, that was that's a weird start right there. Hmm. I love having novelty beverages in my mouth
It's not a bad definition of what we do. No, I understand that it just doesn't have a great
Anyways, hmm, Dan. Yeah
Do you know about Alex John's tons? I put zero Alex Jones in my mouth
I put him mostly in my ears if I can be perfectly honest
That is a shove them down my throat. That's what you do indeed and our listeners throats
That is the theme of the show and we're thrilled to be back with another episode. Hope you all had a wonderful labor day
Shout out. Absolutely. We're recording this on labor day
Which to me is a more important day than 9-eleven or Memorial Day or Veterans Day
Because this is a day that commemorates all of the thousands of people who were murdered
Mercilessly at the hand of our oligarchs. Yep. So everybody enjoy celebrate and
Let's start a revolution. Fuck it. Why not?
All right, was that is that is that actionable? Is that a crime? I don't think so. Okay, resolutions vague enough
Revolution is vague. Let's start a revolution of everybody coming to our show. Yeah
And at North Bar this Saturday where we will be announcing our candidacy for supreme rulers. That would be fun
This Saturday the 9th of September at 9 p.m. Oh shit north bar is this Saturday. Yeah, holy shit. It's creeping up
That's crazy. We have very little prepped. We've prepared we've prepared a lot almost nothing a lot tons
Okay, good point good point don't snitch to the audience that we don't know
To be fair what kind of preparation do you do at all for this show shut up dad, okay?
I'm putting up flyers. All right. No, and you know what that's prep. You know what I
Contributed my girlfriend making us a poster
Thank you to your girlfriend. It's almost like yes. She made an incredible post wonderful. It's up on the website at this point
Yeah, we'll definitely tweet out
Absolutely, but anyway, we'd love it if you come out 9 o'clock if you'd like any more details
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We have to walk a couple of doors down. You know, I apologize don't fucking send people over to that hot dog
You have to watch you have to walk exactly
Four doors down give or take
So let's get into it today is going to be an investigation episode you forgot. What are we drinking Dan?
sparkling ice
All right, move on Jerry. I made it. We did it. So
Today we're gonna be going back to 2015. We're going to be covering the stretch from let me get the start date here
October 16th to October
20 fuck. I don't know 26th. I think I think that's where we end all right the last five episodes that we're ready for this level of
Preparation September 9th at night
The last like five episodes that we're covering are just David Knight hosts for a week
So we're just gonna dismiss them out of hand at the end
So the actual stuff we're gonna be covering is the 16th to the 22nd of October in 2015
But before we do that here is an out-of-context drop from Alex Jones jar jar banks has a Caribbean black accent
He has great skin
In episode one and was a giant flop it wasn't because he had an African slash Caribbean accent
Me likey oh boy. Oh boy. It was because it was ridiculous. It was a stupid character and you aren't gonna have
Caribbean Islanders a long time ago in a galaxy far far away fair point
I
What's up, I don't understand
Well, I think I just don't understand my own feelings. I hate Jar Jar banks. Yeah, and somehow
He made me hate Jar Jar banks less. Yeah
Empathize with the guy yeah
So one of these episodes
We're not even a Caribbean accent. I don't think so. I don't think so either
I think I think he's wrong
Other than that Jar Jar banks sucks. I think he's being a little racist
I he has to be being raised but be that as it may at one point in this stretch of episodes
We're not gonna be going over it
But Alex gets into the hot debate at the time about whether the new Star Wars was anti-white
Because there was a black character wait
Seven yes, and it was he's arguing whether or not it's anti-white the trailer had come out and in
Very ugly circles online. It had been decided that the movie was anti-white
Because there was a black stormtrooper character. I hope he never watched Rogue one because that is antifa to a key
I hope I hope we one day get to that movie
But his his statement on it was it's as is Star Wars literally every part of Star Wars is antifa
Somehow our dumb ass political system even the fucking bullshit centrist democrats and trevor know it can go fuck himself
Right fuck himself off don't disagree it is that it's it's always the guys who are fighting against fascism are the ones
We're fans of but when people actually fight against fascism people like hold the fucking phone right you'd be like
Hey, why are those guys shooting that thing? That's violent. Yeah, they're spaceships and shooting at that big orb
You know what my issue is the Death Star that caused a lot of property damage. So that's a big issue for me
There's no doubt. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so
Alex's take on it is that it's not anti-white. It might be anti. That's good. It might be anti-male
However, of course because because why does there's a female maker? Yeah, of course. Of course. Of course. We're back in Ghostbusters territory
He's sick of it. Oh sick of seeing strong female leads forced down his throat. I can't think of any reason why he's furious
But then he uh, he finally lands on it's not anti-white. We just hate this black guy because he's a bad actor
You've watched what are you talking about?
Have you even seen attack the block? He was amazing in that movie. He just watched this trailer. That's it. I fucking hate it
Yeah, it's very weird. So anyway, that was the out of context drop
Now jar jar bigs
Let me get into this if if he if gunkins live underwater
All right, what are they doing fighting on land? They're not prepared for that shit
Their armies clearly have trained underneath the water. How did they have so much effect? I don't know. This is an issue
So alex mad at star wars. Yep, there's no doubt about that
But on october 16th, he starts out uh the show and throughout a whole lot of the show angry
It's something else that you might deem a piece of nerd culture that might surprise you quite a bit
I mentioned the new captain america who's black who takes out racist white people who want to have a border
Because the racist white people are down at the border murdering hispanic families. Yep
How dare you cowards kill the innocent hispanic women? I captain america will now kill you
We support the constitution in america. We are the death serpent
Member red skull he was hydro with the nazis
Here is
marvel
Avengers
Here's the issue for everybody. This is 004 from what two years ago. Look who red skull has working for him alex jones
That's right. I worked for red skull. You didn't you didn't know I worked for red skull
Against the white captain america who's now been killed of course captain america
And we have the
It wouldn't be bad if they had a black captain america. I don't care. Yes, you do black green lantern. Whatever. Yes, you do
But see it has to be a black
Captain america will put the new article up
Because the black captain america takes on the all white evil serpent group
Yeah, and the nexican family's bag, please don't kill us, but don't worry which side would you be on?
That pregnant Hispanic woman
It didn't really happen, but it doesn't matter
So I just want to pause there for a second. He does not understand fiction at all
No, because he's talking about don johnson killing that pregnant lady. That's from machete. Yeah, I know
Yeah, what is happening?
He's furious at fiction stuff because he thinks that other people will think it's real
Because his mind can't integrate reality and fix it. Right. He thinks everybody's brain works like his or
They're just so stupid that they'll think anything that they see in fiction is a depiction of reality
Yeah, I don't understand why he doesn't get that it doesn't matter like if you're going to go for pathos
Generally the guy murdering innocent hispanic women
Is the bad guy generally regardless of I mean, of course if you go back through american history
Most people think that the americans are the heroes whenever they murdered innocent hispanic women
Yeah, yeah, there is a rich history of that in our in our in our country. Also, how did he say that?
Sarcastically what what part how dare you kill innocent hispanic women like wait
If you're saying that sarcastically
Don't you kind of think that that's okay? I think that that's just him losing control of his tone
Yeah, because I I think that what he's trying to get at is like it's not real
I think it's more of that. Okay. I think it's sure. I think it's the how dare you depict white people
murdering hispanic pregnant women at the border in a fictional
Novelization or or or movie. How dare you do that? That's more what he's saying. I think
That seems obvious though. Yeah, I don't know look it's this is a weird
This is a weird fucking thing and I don't have a whole lot of it
But throughout this entire episode on the 16th, he spends a combined
35 minutes screaming about red skull and how
How like marvel has put him in the comic books and how it's like they're just trying to trick everybody. They're all dumb
They're gonna see alex jones here working for red skull. They're gonna think of course. He works for red skull
At the same time as he's working for putin the most literal
Parallel to red skull that there is right now. He's at very least bolstering
Speaking of which let's get to this next clip where he discusses modern-day red skull
In this clip. He discusses accusations
That people are throwing around willy-nilly that russia has any culpability in ukraine and syria
Well, russia didn't start the fight
Russia has two international military bases not 400
Russia doesn't put fluoride in their water. Russia doesn't force inoculate. Russia isn't trying to take my guns
Russia isn't saying the founding fathers are bad marvel comics
As bad as russia is compared to the absolute
Traders russia's trying to stop
The massive radical islamic flow into europe
Russia's openly saying george soros wants to destroy america and europe
Russia is openly banned more than seven groups george soros funds in russia who he admits is there to overthrow the government
I don't think he did that. I mean how bizarre is that that a weirdo nazi collaborator?
who's almost 90 years old
Runs msnbc the huffington post
Media matters and scores of other organizations and all they do all day is attack alex jones matt drudge
World net daily free speech talk radio and the russian government
Oh boy
That last part there if he doesn't like old white men running
Networks wait till he hears about roger ailes. He's gonna be pissed. I think he's uh, I think he has uh
Mixed feelings about roger ailes. Uh, but
That at the end there is really troubling for me that list that he puts together of supposed allies. I guess the people who uh, the uh
george soros and his team are against matt drudge alex jones alex jones world net daily the russian government
who
So would you say that he's uh aligning himself with all three of those other things?
I think it's very clear. It's very obvious. He's already said. I love matt drudge
I think he's the coolest guy in the world. Right. He pimps world net daily a bunch loves it
Um, uh, but but gerome coursey at this point still writes for world net daily wonderful
He's deeply involved with them before he makes the jump over to info wars great. Uh, yeah lateral move on course coursey's part
I think I think it might be a downgrade
Because I think info wars is eventually gonna go down hard
Whereas world net daily will fly under the radar probably that's possible
But at the same time like this is really troubling
This is really fucking awful this whole time like we've been you know
I think we've been wrestling ourselves with the idea of whether or not we can be comfortable saying that alex jones really loves russia
Probably more than america. He loves russia more than america. It's becoming very clear to us. It's obvious. Yeah
that's like look all soros does is
Uh, take down alex jones matt drudge
The the german government the italian fascists and the japanese bombers and it's like
What what did we do wrong right like during world war two? That's him
Yeah, for sure
And even be if you want to take a step back and be a little bit more cautious. I would say if you at this point
Uh, because we don't have anything definitive
But what you can definitely say without any exaggeration is that he is clearly seeing his narratives in russia
He's clearly like he's presenting russia as this embodiment of his ideas. Oh, yeah, they don't fluoride the water
Exactly. They love christianity. They don't start wars keeping the radical islamists out of europe
Everything he hopes for and screams about is embodied by russia. How could he not be aligned with them? Of course
It's fucked up. What's what's interesting about that is he first starts with
Russia only has two international bases. I think it's four, but yeah, or whatever. Yeah
At the same time though, he is saying that russia is keeping radical islamists out of europe
Which is like
So you're saying that they keep all of europe safe
Or are you saying that they're keeping european russia safe?
Because that seems more like what you're uh, what you're paying attention to I think I think that might be the case
Also, I don't think I don't think russia particularly cares about portugal
Also, I don't think they care. I think alex isn't wrestling with the idea of why do they only have four bases
He never he never recognizes that a lot of the stuff he's like, why is everyone so mean to russia?
It's like because they keep encroaching on their neighbors. I can't say they keep annexing shit
Nah
Like there's stories that come out pretty frequently about them just taking a farmhouse. Yeah, that's this is now russia
Yeah, great. Yeah, it seems like we now have eight more feet of russia. Yeah, it seems like they're uh,
They're using the same strategy that israel uses on the west bank where it's totally we live here now. Bye
It's almost like the strategy we used it. It yeah in our entire history
It's it's definitely it definitely feels a lot like uh, are you really gonna attack us over eight feet? Yeah, really? Yeah
Yeah, it's a very passive aggressive way of annexing land. Yeah, uh, but I
I think it gets even worse. Here's another here's the next clip that alex goes on
He wants to say more great things about russia russia in 1991 turned off its air defenses and stopped doing
patrols outside the country couldn't afford them
Nature responded by moving heavy weapons and nuclear weapons up to the border of russia
And by sending in color revolution teams to bring russia down
But george soros gets up there
And he fought against russia when he was a young man
For the nazis nope in police and secret police activities. Nope
And now we have to sit here and look at him lie
And say that russia is attacking europe
Uh, I mean there's so many fun lies just in that 35 second clip
Yeah, even his regular narrative about soros doesn't have him helping invade russia. Yeah, ed working for the nazi secret police
Yeah, nah, dude. Look all of the other regular lies are lies enough. Why are you amping? Why are you ramping it up?
Well, whenever he's called to answer for why he believes that soros was a nazi collaborator
The only answer he can ever give is that interview that he did with 60 minutes
Yeah, and we've gone over that it it doesn't say that he was a nazi collaborator
It doesn't even come close to touching on nazi secret police operations against russia
Right, it's fucking bizarre. This goes back to the uh, the gun free ut
The saying it was bloomberg funded saying it was cia tactics. He's just making this shit up
Yeah, there's nothing behind this and then the other stuff
I mean, it's just it's just pathetic pandering for russia and just
Twisting a very pro russia narrative that doesn't match history and even then it's such a specific pro russia narrative
Like he reveals a lot by knowing exactly
1991 they pulled their stuff away and you're like
You would never know that unless somebody
Who wanted that information to go through your mouth told you
Because he would never have he would never be able to pull anything like that out
Hmm. That's interesting. Come on. Do you think he read anything about that?
I know that he's read 50 books on the american civil war. He's read 30 books on uh,
Lincoln 40 books on uh, andrew jackson
57 books on world war two. Yep. He does list off the number of books. He's read none on the cold war
We'll get back into that here in a little bit
But for now alex has done talking geopolitics because the rest of this show gets a little weird
The 16th alex is in a strange state and it actually ends up leading to some pretty classic moments
But before it does alex is still mad about marvel
He's still mad about them depicting him as a a servant of red skull
Yeah, and so as he's going out to break he wants to he would prefer he was a servant of white skull
I mean totally come on
He uh, he calls his audience to action here as a whole boy as he's going to break and it's uh, pretty absurd
We're getting more reporters more camera people more investigative journalists to cover more to get in the face of the system more
Doing our part up in our game against the globalists of the face of their counter offensive
Where on the march the empire is on the run
Info wars life.com for the nutraceuticals
Info wars store.com for the t-shirts the hillary for prison all of it. We're in a culture war
By the way, we're bringing down mcdonald's
We're bringing down monsanto
If we start now it may take a decade. I'm on your side
We must do it. They're the enemy. No one supports as many 100 percent
Absolute boycotts. They are the enemy
They hate america. They hate christians. They hate your family
Okay, yep, disney. Yep notoriously. Well, they are involved with marvel disney notorious
Uh christian haters totally if you recall walt disney was famous not for his anti-semitic views
No, no, no, it was that he hated christians. Well, he hates christians because he allows people to put dicks in the background of those movies
It's cartoons
Um, yeah, I don't I think that's just an extension of marvel hate at this point. There's based on my oh, yeah, absolutely
Disney owns marvel. Yeah, my analysis of this episode. I'm leaving out a ton of the stuff where he's just
Rambling about uh, captain america
But he's just like he's fun because I can't I actually kind of want to hear more rambling about captain america
I assure you it's not good uh clip form. Okay, if you want to go back and listen to this whole episode
I do not thank you. That would be what I'd have to do. Yeah. No, thanks
So he's gonna boycott mcdonald's monsanto again. Monsanto should be destroyed sure monsanto should be torn apart
They're evil. They're true evil. This is one little piece. We can agree with alex mcdonald's is like a
I would say 60 40 evil at this point. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I mean, it's not the highest priority in the world
No, let's take let's take down food producers first
I do love the going out to break where it's like it's a hard break
So, you know, you've got that voice coming in and it's like they can't skip this commercial
And so he has to keep talking until the exact moment the feed drops. Yeah
He says I got a boycott. You know, it might not happen overnight. It's gonna take a while
But we will take down disney. They hate your family. All right. See you on the other side
Then it comes back from commercial. He's like, hey, everybody. How's it going?
Just not mad at all if I could love that fakeness. It's so fucking fake
So
Does anybody promote traditional family values more than disney? I well, no because they promote multiculturalism
You have all these different ethnicities of princesses and you know, that's not traditional family
I don't know. There are a few
Fair enough. I walked down the wrong road there
So alex wants his audience to boycott a bunch of businesses on his behalf. Uh, so far, uh, let me check my watch
Uh, they're still in business. Oh, has disney still still doing doing all right
McDonald's I went there this morning for how did the how did the how did rogue one work out?
Was that a pretty big movie? I think they made a few bucks. They made a few bucks on row one. Okay
But alex is not like this. He's not the kind of guy that nothing
Not the sort of demagogue who's going to sit around and issue commands to his people and not do something him himself
Oh, of course. He is about he's got to walk the walk. He's about direct action
Oh, and uh in this next clip he explains what he's about to start doing. Okay humans a disease humans a parasite humans a cancer
You've heard it. They tell you how they hate you all day
How they hate me all day how they hate our babies all day and then they sit there and go
But we love all the immigrants and anyone that doesn't want an open border and the border patrols shipping people in
And completing the smuggling process. It's just outrageous. So, you know, I'm going to do this next week
Buckley saturday after two
I'm going
in the evening
Five o'clock six o'clock and I'm gonna meet people in a in a middle-class neighborhood
But I'm gonna go to terry channel liberal area six o'clock and I'm gonna knock on 50 doors with a handout
And I'm gonna say with a camera. I don't care what they do. Hi. I'm a migrant
And I'm gonna start trying to push my way in saying I want dinner. I want you to give me money
I'm not gonna threaten them
When they say no, I'm gonna go. What do you mean? Give me your money. I'm a migrant racist
I'm going to do it
Because it's total mind control. It's crazy
I can't go to guatemala and show up and demand free stuff. We're on the march
The empire
It's a great plan
I can neither confirm nor deny that he followed through with this plan
I'm gonna I'm gonna go with it's a dumb plan to start with it's not great
You would knock on the door and they'd be like
Who the fuck are you?
Also, shit, alex jones. Are you alex jones?
Why do you have a camera in my face? I'm not threatening you. Are you shitting me? Look at you
Yeah, you're you're very existence is a threat. You're fucking roided out like crazy. You're yeah veins are bulging
Yeah, uh, you're threatening me and you've got a camera and you're like and get me food
And you already said you're gonna push in through the door. That's a b&e. Yeah
Uh, but be that as it may thankfully doesn't have a concealed carry license
I I could I could spend a little while getting into the like logic problem of
Of his sort of stunt and what the with the issues would be there the number of issues
Uh, that he is wrong on in that one like here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna knock on doors already
That's wrong. Mm-hmm. If you're if you're going with your metaphor for immigrants, they don't knock on the door
They go through an entire process. Yeah, like there's so much people
There's so much stuff to get food from a neighbor
Exactly like he should have to bring in like different like a whole folder
With a whole booklet of like here's all of the shit that I've got
Please give me food and then the neighbor would be like, okay, you have filled this out properly
However, I am gonna need a multiple references and we are gonna need a six month
Uh probationary waiting period for you to get this sandwich. Exactly. Yeah from then
It's like we gotta wait five years before you're capable of getting benefits from your neighbors. So
Uh, we will see you in 2020 alex jones
I predict that the most likely thing that would happen is if he went and knocked on the door and he was like, hey
How's it going? They would be like, whoa, you're alex jones and then they would reference this next clip
And they and they fly over and spray it with some hallucinogens
You can look that up and then hit you with uh, you know, jesus and mohammed fighting with lightsabers
Uh, believe me folks start flipping out
By the way, they didn't just test it. They sprayed them with gay bombs
If you're a new luster, just type in pentagon tested gay bomb on iraq. They consider no, they didn't consider using it
They've used it on our troops in vietnam. They'd spray pcp on the troops jacob's ladder
You think pcp some horse tranquilizer something they got stuff that'll whack your brain permanently
Brain chips in the troops they give the troops
Special vaccines that are really nano tech that already re-engineer their brains
Now there it is the gay bomb
Look it up for yourself. I mean, this is what they're what do you think tap water is it's a gay bomb, baby
Tap water and i'm not saying people didn't naturally have homosexual feelings
I'm not even getting into it quite frankly. I mean give me a break
You think i'm like oh shocked by it's i'm up here bashing it because i don't like gay people
I don't like to put in chemicals in the water that turn the friggin frogs gay
Do you understand that?
This crap i'm sick of being social engineered. It's not funny
So it's pretty funny. That's a classic alex jones clip. Yeah, I remember that one. That's uh, that's one of the big ones
Uh, I suppose i'll have to we'll have to like redo the uh intro bit and i'll have to say
All I know about alex jones is gay frogs and and tap water. That's a gay bomb. That's a gay bomb, baby
That's a gay bomb. That's a gay bomb, baby. He sounds like me
So, uh, the other thing is that uh, the gay bomb, uh, it was it's a theoretical weapon widely popularized
theoretical weapon theoretical weapon
I believe it factored heavily into a 30 rock episode if I recall and the idea of it was that they would drop female hormones
Or pheromones onto a battlefield that would become associated with other males
Uh, and you would end up wanting to fuck all the people in war. Are we sure our military isn't dumb?
Well, they're into a lot of like
Theoretical ideas and sometimes these theoretical ideas that don't really work out are leaked
Yeah, and that's when things get weird because the this is not something that could successfully be done
I don't believe right right, but be that as I feel like a lot of DARPA projects are really just uh, uh, like
The writer's room of a sitcom had a couple of days off and they're like give us some ideas shoot some shit around and they're like
Gay bomb. I don't know. Let's try it. Let's give it a shot
So the other thing is that at the end of that where we just cut this clip and we'll get back right back into it
Uh, when he's going ah, ah, ah, he's banging on his desk like a like a gorilla
And papers are flying everywhere
He's just knocking over all of his stacks of paper and they are all blank
I don't want to the frogs turning gay. He's just knocking papers everywhere and it leads to like immediately after this
Okay
Damn it. I just dropped a bunch of stuff off the side of here. I need those articles somebody
Why why you're never gonna get to this in months and I'm just I just cannot handle it anymore
I apologize. I apologize. Jesus forgive me
He won't let me just get back to the news. Thank you
I
Children becoming hunchbacks due to addiction
Weather outlook big snow for northeast relief of thirsty california record snow. Why are you gonna get to the weather report?
Yeah, record snow record snow. We got weather on the nine. We got wait. Look look
Children becoming hunchbacks
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Record snow this makes perfect sense. Yeah
I would hate it if he had a loss of that one
I just I just love the the powerless moment that he has of like
I can't I can't go get those pages. I knocked off the table
I need those because I don't have a plan. I don't know
Not at all. No, that's uh, that's kind of humanizing and pathetic
Every part of him is ultimately pathetic
But you know with the amount of shit I listen to of him and how much I have to engage with this
I really do cherish the moments
Where he screws things up for himself
Like I love the moments when the like there's a problem that he has created
Yeah, which is he's furious about the gay bomb and turning frogs. He isn't really
Well, he's probably faking that but then he starts banging on the table just to make it look like he's even more mad
He ends up knocking over all of his headlines and he has to get someone to help him
That's a great like little narrative arc
It's it's silly. It's the alex jones show in a uh, microcosm really
I believe you're correct. He gets very angry and fucks shit up for him
Get him alone. Mm-hmm and his listeners, of course
And we are all metaphorically the people have to pick up that paper
Because we're we're inconvenienced by the aftermath of his bullshit. Yeah
Oh man, I think we just figured it out more or less the socio
Dynamic part of this and all of it is run by russia. Yeah
He does have a russian working there named daria that every time he brings her up. He's like she doesn't work for the government
Makes me think she might work for the government. She might work for the government, right?
The amount of times he says she doesn't work for poodle
All right, I think you doth protest too much. So of course she does. Yeah, I'm not making that accusation at all
But it is also if a volleyball flies at her. She moves her hand after it's already gone
That's a reverence to daria
So this next clip
We alex jones as we know is a man who had a couple formative experiences in his life
In terms of getting him down this weird right-wing path, right, you know, ruby ridge was big for him. Of course the
The waco was huge cia dentists and of course the oklahoma city bombing was a very big
False flag. There was a false flag in his conception. I've done a bunch of looking into stuff that he says and
He's not right about a lot of stuff
But here's one thing that I also don't think he's right about that is an interesting wrinkle
In the oklahoma city argument that he makes because this is not an argument
He brings up very often when he talks about oklahoma city. It's weird gay bomb gay bomb
They're announcing a new justice department mega unit with their number one national directive to go after conservatives and veterans and libertarians and gun owners
They're announcing all this executive gun grabbing outside of law
And they're announcing they believe the tea party is going to start blowing stuff up any minute while they persecute people illegally
And I just know full well what these scum are going to pull
I mean do people at the justice department really want to be involved in more false flags?
You really like blowing up daycare centers and whamming it on the states? Probably
They were about to have a states rights movement to get out of the un in globalism in 1994 95
oklahoma was leading a state coalition of 27 states to do it
And so they blew up the federal building and blamed it on the patriots
And i'm telling you that's the kind of crap they're going to pull and what does even steven segal say it's up on info wars dot com
What does steven segal say? I believe in the second amendment and I believe a lot of these mass murders going on
That a lot of these are engineered if you're go to first piece of evidence is what does steven segal say?
Yeah, you're in trouble
wd s ss
That's our new bracelet. I would I would posit that maybe what he's saying is even someone as dumb as steven segal gets it
But I can't imagine that's what he meant. No, what he means is what does noted patriot and
martial artist hero and member of joe arpio's uh posse
Really? Yeah, don't you remember? God and we everybody should die. It was segal. We're all I'm done. I'm done
Everyone should die segal and lou farigno. We're uh, that's not okay
You were totally cool. That would be discussed at last time. Really? Yeah, you thought that was charming
Because that's how bad joe arpio is. I mean it is kind of charming as long as joe arpio isn't involved
Right if you got a posse together with these assholes. Yeah, right? Yeah
Uh, here's what I got. I got hulk and the guy from under siege two great. Love it nailed it
They're gonna keep illegal immigrants at bay. What's what's going on? I got a law enforcement super team. Yeah
um, so I would I would say that uh, this is
wildly speculative about the reason for the oklahoma city bombing
Based on everything I can find it is incorrect
And I don't think that blowing up a federal building would stop
Uh, 27 states getting together to try and get out of the uh, un or nato. Are you sure I think that they would be like
Hey, uh, we still have you know a reasonable argument that we're trying to make
I know this is a tragedy and uh, let's deal with this. Let's uh, take care of the victims and and what have you
But hey, we we're still on board with this
I think that's how it would go if 27 states were banding together over half the country. Nope banding together to try
Federal building also oklahoma city. You know how important oklahoma city is to all
27 other states or 26 other states totally. They were the leaders exactly
I can find very little evidence that this is a reality, but that is not a new experience for me
On the alex jones program. Why do you say very little?
Does that mean there's more than none? I think I found a couple blogs
That's not right. Yeah, if they don't cite sources, I feel like that's not evidence. Yeah, but you know what?
Uh, yeah
I can find very little corroborated speculation
I spent I spent more of my oklahoma city research time reading like court transcripts of some of the people who were inside
Elohim city and stuff like that right because I felt like that was more useful Kevin Durant, right?
Russell westbrook way back when that was going on sure. They were part of an anti-government
Yep, I felt like that was a more useful
Use of my time
Probably and did not go too deep into what oklahoma was doing to get out of the u.m
but
The stuff that I read in those transcripts are coming up in a future episode, but be that as it may
This next clip. Yeah, it's a commercial
And it's weird
It's gross. Okay. It is one of our favorite things is when alex jones takes his supplements on the air
We're completely overrun people, but if you wake up to the criminals, it's game over
But you've got to break with them. I'm gonna go to your calls
I got to pay the bills here also
I uh super mill vitality is back in I I didn't take any today
I
Probably shouldn't and it's just really high-powered concentrated. That's a bad ad
That's a bad advertisement yourself in fullwarslife.com and this is really popular with weight lifters athletes, uh bodybuilders
name some
Lou Ferrigno
Some of the top ufc people take it but they've already got other sponsors
But they've contacted me and they just want to plug it without even money because it's worked so well for them and
Name one. It's a real deal
Oh
Take a couple squirts of that a day and it'll set you right
Yeah, I bet it will the face he's making is terrifying and he does two squirts of it
You're that's that's a double dose. Oh, he's taking way more than he should after he already said
I haven't taken a take probably shouldn't then he takes more than the recommended dose gross. Yeah
Ah
So it doesn't it doesn't lead to too much craziness though like in the past when he's taken brain force on the show
He ends up going fucking he gets wild. He gets nuts. Yeah
It turns out that uh, this puts him in a almost a more contemplative mood
Interesting. He doesn't really freak out too much. It's not like a train wreck
Uh, but you know, it's interesting about that. That does seem like something that a super male would do
Be very common stoic be very contemplative. Mm-hmm choose wisdom over
Abject anger. Yeah, I now I understand why UFC fighters take it
In order to keep themselves level and steady. Yeah, rather than tap into male rage
Well, I don't know if it's an advantage in the UFC ring to tell your opponent more than you should but
That seems to be a side effect of super male vitality
Based on this next clip it takes different strokes for different folks in society and culture
Different strokes it takes and I have a lot of intellectuals on and a lot of people that are really into being controlled being focused and
But none of them has been as successful as I have warning people waking people up
And I don't do it on purpose. I get sick of
Sitting here calmly talking about all this and I blow up. I mean every week or so every two weeks
There's a big blow up today every day and it's genuine
It's it's therapy for me because you know, it's better than me doing this when I get home
When my kids are bad or something that's true. I agree with that that last premise
Yeah, you basically just admitted that he's it's fake. Yep the blow-ups are fake. Yeah once a week
I got to make sure I blow up. I got a quota to reach right and it's therapy for me
Yeah, even if that is accurate then he's a mentally ill person and he should be going to therapy more than once a week
Yeah, I mean clearly. I mean if
There's no way that that clip isn't damning and illustrating that he knows that what he's doing is fraudulent. Yeah
So
Congratulations, if you if you are timing out your blow-ups, of course, you're
Faking well, it's not timing it out. It's just the world's bullshit gets to him about once a week
It's like a lot of people that doesn't make any sense
No, it does a lot of the world's bullshit gets to me once every fucking
Right, but you deal with the time you deal with it like everyone does and then they get really drunk once a week
Something like that. That's his getting really drunk is screaming about gay frogs
Dan once a week. All right. That's fun. All right. That's a fun thought
Well, I'm saying most people my my psychiatrist would love it if it was only once a week. Yeah, that's fair
Yeah, but I'm talking about the work a day. I'm talking about the uh, the middle class the forgotten man
Absolutely once a week. Yeah, something like that. Sure. Um, so this next clip alex
Remember he was talking about planning some stunts
Yes, he revisits the premise and tries to brainstorm some more stunts he can do
I don't think that's a good idea
I think he noticed that joe bigs going out with the hillary for prison shirt is becoming really successful
Right. And so he wants to get into the like the jackass stuff like go out there with the camera
Try I mean, obviously if he went to someone's house and was like, I'm a migrant let me in
He'd also be like info more store.com and they'd be like halloween isn't for a while, dude. Shut the fuck up
Yeah, so here's uh, here's brainstorming a couple more stunts. I pledge to you
That I'm gonna start pulling some incredible legal stunts
Incredible houses. I'm gonna go to the government. I'm gonna go to the city council and I'm gonna demand to be able to sleep
on the dais
All right, because I'm a migrant. I'm gonna demand I'm gonna go to the mayor's house. I'm gonna demand to live in his house
I mean, this is the kind of stunts we got to do to show how ridiculous these people are
To the mayor of austin. I like the illegals are doing it. They don't let me live in his house. I'm serious
We've got to get in these people's faces and just let them know
We're fully aware of their garbage and we're not putting up with it anymore
And george soros and all these people
That's a weird non sequitur there at the end and george soros and all these people all those folks
Yeah, I don't know them folks. I don't know if migrants get to sleep on like court tables. Oh, they do
I don't know if I don't know if that's gonna be illustrative of any real migrants sleep in the mayor's house
Totally and they sue if they can't. Oh, of course. So I think that again
I'm gonna start pulling legal stunts and then he just lists a bunch of illegal things. I feel like that's not a good idea
But if it's a stunt, it's legal. That's not how that works. Yeah
I'm pretty sure if you were actually a migrant you would be put in jail for that you go kill somebody right and you're like
This is a good stunt. That's a good stunt. Yeah, get away with it. Scott free
If you if you just
Kidnap hillary and put her in a prison. That's a legal stunt, right?
Yeah, and then I mean it's all branded hillary four prison hillary is now in prison hillary in prison granted
It's not a sanctioned prison, but neither was joe arpaio's prison. Oh man. I hope he fucking gets shot in the face
So, uh, throughout this investigation. I believe that we have started to dip our toe into the water of
A new theory that I've been building up in my head. I think alex jones is a sovereign citizen
Okay, all right. Here we go. I think he's that side of conservative. Uh-huh, which is too far, but uh
Fucking look at this point. That's that's just part for the course for conservative ideology. What sovereign citizens
Yeah, I don't believe so. I don't think I don't think you know enough about them. I that's probably true
So in this next clip, uh, which is the last one from october 16th towards the end of the show
He gets a call from a sovereign citizen
Okay, or at least someone who appears to be a sovereign citizen now. I'm having fun
So, uh, here is the caller and let's see how alex responds. Let's go to your calls
Jason in texas chasin you're on the air. Thanks for calling
Hey alex
um today
I wanted to talk about admiralty jurisdiction and uh, something that most americans don't actually understand
Uh, is that the constitution article three section two provides for three separate jurisdictions?
Which are law equity and admiralty
So for listeners that aren't aware common law or common law is what the nation was founded upon that goes back to the magna carta
And it's really simple. Don't injure don't harm others or their property and don't use fraud in your contracts
Any crimes committed under the common law require there to be a corpus delecti or an injured party
Equity is a jurisdiction of contracts and doesn't encompass criminal activities
And finally we have admiralty jurisdiction, which is the law of the military and of the high seas
So for example a soldier that refuses to peel potatoes when ordered is a criminal act even if there is no injured party
Now it's under admiralty jurisdiction that the united states citizens are criminally prosecuted
And not normally only operated at sea or under wartime emergencies
If you were in the military and did not have a jurisdiction over the general public but through fraud and contract fraud getting us to opt into admiralty
It's been brought in now uh to be one of the dominant forms of law as we move into administrative
Yeah, he knows exactly been done with our silent consent
And it's the extension of this admiralty jurisdiction to the colonists
It was actually one of the prime reasons behind the revolution
So almost every court in the united states today the jurisdiction is assumed
Yes, number one was them trying to take the guns, but number two was british press kings
Grabbing people's eight nine ten year old boys off their front porches or from school
Are none of this is true and taking them to be slaves on british ships. What fields?
Now what you can't do is you can't uh a license attorney can't actually go into court and make this kind of
Jurisdictional challenge because they've already consented to being part of this now. I've had
I've not found that i've got really great lawyers and not because of that but routinely cite common law precedent and are successful in court
And I I actually did that pretty recently to get a minor traffic fence thrown out and that was uh
That was pretty rewarding. They might have thrown that out. Anyway a minor traffic offense
Maybe the fucking officer didn't show up for court and then they throw it out. Nope. Nope common
Yeah, so I want to I don't buy into this system
I want to read to you from the uh southern poverty law center their uh file on the uh the sovereign citizens
The contemporary sovereign belief system is based on a decades old conspiracy theory at some point in history sovereigns believe
The american government set up by the founding fathers with a legal system the sovereigns referred to as common law
Was secretly replaced by a new government system based on admiralty law the law of the sea and international commerce
Under common law or so they believe
The sovereign sorry. I'm sorry say the law of the sea the law of the sea
The law of the sea shall now be the law of the land
Under common law or so they believe the sovereigns would be free men under admiralty law
They are slaves and secret government forces have a vested interest in keeping them that way make sense
Some sovereigns believe this perfidious change occurred during the civil war while others blame the events of 1933
When the u.s. Abandoned the gold standard
Either way they stake their lives and livelihoods on the idea that judges around the country know all about this hidden government takeover
But are denying the sovereign's motions and filings out of a treasonous loyalty to hidden and malevolent government forces
That makes sense. Yeah, that sounds that sounds right that every judge is aware of secret law
Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah, I mean, that's like that's like news radio or jubal cane jubal cane
I immediately find in favor of the defendant and then it goes back to the rest of this
Goes into the idea of that whenever you're born. You're a corporate entity
Uh, because your name is capitalized capital letters and uh, they they do that
These the government does that under admiralty law in order to make you a slave and to create treasury accounts in your name
And if you go through a process called redemption where you send in
All you have to be baptized you send in all of your documents or whatever back to the government and renounce
Your status as a corporate entity or whatever
Then you get access to all the money in the treasury
That makes sense and you're free for many of these admiralty laws because you're a sovereign citizen
The other thing that's really fucked up is that because they believe in this common law thing that the founders set up
They don't believe in amendments most of them. So they don't believe that slavery is gone
That's not great. They don't believe that women have the right to vote
That's a bummer by corollary
They believe that every election that's been held where women can vote is null and void
So they don't believe in the authority of the president
Okay, beyond that because of all of these beliefs
It I mean, it's just clear that they can't respect the authority of any law enforcement officer
And that's why they end up pulling guns on them a lot. You are really selling it to me
I am uh, these people are a mess. I'm starting. I'm starting to think maybe they got a point
Starting to think they got a point dan. No, they are they are they are really scary as a whole and it's
It's weird to me. I mean, I love the idea of a government that just has a loophole where it's like
Oh, man, I hope nobody finds out. Otherwise they have access to all the money
Yeah, exactly
Very weird
I don't think all of them believe that but a large number do yeah
I don't want to paint them all with the same brush because there's within the sovereign citizens
There's a bunch of like co-related groups like the free men on the land
Uh, and stuff. Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a it's a it's a wild rabbit hole to go down
I'm wondering what where we fall on the stupid or insane like
Are these people truly just lunatics or are they just the dumbest people on the planet?
I think it's a really compelling and interesting way for mental illness to go. Yeah
I think that there's probably a number of people who are a little bit obsessive
Maybe a little bit, uh, super manic and they get into reading court documents and misinterpret a bunch of things
Right, uh, I I think that um, yeah, if you're into reading court documents, you're probably on the insane spectrum
Uh, or me studying for this podcast. You're probably on the insane spectrum fair
But it's it's weird to me like not the not them because I I'm fascinated by
You know fringe groups and stuff like that, of course, I understand the desperation and the disenfranchisement that would make you want to
Uh, be free if you don't feel free. Sure
I I but a lot of their freedom is dependent on everyone else not being free
That is a problem, but I get spiritually on some level a feeling of like this
Human existence somehow isn't right. I understand that. Yeah, and the fact that it could be channeled into this weird conspiratorial
Uh life plan. I get it. I don't support life plan is giving them a lot of credit fair enough
But I get it. I don't support it, but I get it the idea that alex jones is beholden to some of this
That's weird to me. That's not great because if he believes in all this common law stuff
It's not a far leap to assume that he also believes in the corporate entity stuff
Right and that he can just go to court and not respect the authority of court or something like that
Like it it seems very strange to me which if you did read about his testimony in his uh, uh
custody trial you kind of get the feeling that he doesn't respect courts too much
Have you no decency?
Yeah, but I don't know I don't have enough evidence to say that he is full on a sovereign citizen
But he sure seems conversant in it to an extent that I am not, uh, happy with he's starting to show
Shades of it and that's that's weird
So
Jordan sure that's the end of friday october 16th. Okay. No show on saturday. We come back on sunday the 18th
No trump on 16th. No, no, nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Uh, oh, yeah, I forgot. That's the point of this investigation. Yeah, I
I'm running out of uh
I know why because I'm starting to think that Trump is yeah, Trump isn't even Trump isn't even important in any of this
Shit. He's he's uh, he's a bit player. Yeah, it's all about russia. Yeah, that's what it's becoming clear
Yeah, it's very weird. That's super weird
So, I mean, I feel like we started out the episode with those with those russia clips and I'm like, all right
Everyone gets the premise. No, this is supposed to be about
Um, so on sunday alex jones has has an
That's like
1954 all over again. We're gonna start the soviet union. Yeah, it's not far off
Uh, so alex on sunday has a new plan
He is going to I think that he started to feel like i'm not doing a good enough job of being specific
I think he had a quiet moment. Maybe he was taking a bath or something like that took two
Drips a super male vitality got very contemplative right after on friday after friday's show. He's like
I just I know that i'm making a good argument and everyone loves it
But I fear i'm not being specific enough about what i'm talking about right so he comes in hot
Considering the fact that we have no idea what he's talking about. Yeah, and we have to do excessive exegesis. Yeah
So he comes in hot on sunday with a new plan that is going to make everything clear starting
At the bottom of the hour
We're going to start profiling globalist
We're going to start profiling from my research who I believe is at the very top of the new world water power structure
We're going to look at the owners of the global government
There's very few of those the big top owners
Then we're also going to look at the top managers who themselves are billionaires
We're going to look at peter southerland today
the former head of goldman sacks europe the former head of
BP worldwide
The man who told the bbc quote eu should undermine national homogeneity says
and use migration
This is the guy engineering the radical islamic influx right now
We're going to look in
To why he's doing this and what the in game is to understand who these people are and he looks like a james bond villain
Um, so does he look like a james bond villain? Not really
Um, he's I mean bald. Yeah one. I'm missing a bald. It's kind of bald. He's a little portly
But I think it's kind of petty to make, you know, appearance based complaints about your big super villains
Like if he is the big bad, why are you starting out by critiquing his appearance?
Also christoph waltz was uh
Was a james bond villain in the most recent one. So he could be very attractive
So alex lists off a number of things that uh, you know, he's been a part of the bp and you know all this and right
All right, you got it. You got it. You got a decent you got a decent amount of his
resume before we go any further. I am
Provisionally on the side of alex jones. Uh, I am
Guaranteeing that peter southerland is a monster
Uh, yeah
Yeah, I mean he's not great
Sure
See there we go all of these like anyone any billionaire should be uh any billionaire is a murderer a million times over any
Yeah, but that's that's fine
That's fine. It's okay except for maybe our boy. How do you look at it? He seems pretty cool
But be that as a male every every super rich person is awful until proven otherwise in my book
Yeah, but at the same time it's not the same as what alex does. No, that's not like it's not fair to conflate
Uh, healthy distrust of really rich people with they're all a pedophile network
Who want to you know, bring in migrants to kill christians and uh bring back the gold standard
I don't know you're right
I do have the feeling though that the enemy of my enemy is my friend
Wait, so you want to team up with alex against these guys so long as it's just me and alex against billionaires
I'm fine with that. There's a lot more trappings. Look the oligarchs need to be taken down
Now here's the other thing though if alex is not against or if alex is
Against taking down the russian oligarchs, then we are not on the same. I don't I don't think he's it seems like he should be
It seems like he should include them in their globalists. I don't I don't think he does
I think he I don't think he does either doesn't seem like it
I don't think he has any kind of ideological through point other than making up bullshit. Yeah, so alex
Like I said, he comes in he's hot. He's going to start doing this in order to build his case
We're going to profile these specific globalists. I can tell you I've listened to about two weeks more after this episode
He never does this again
This is a one-off
At this point not a series of course and here's how it goes
And can we put on screen just just search the term peter southerland?
Or I can pull up an article and show you a picture of myself and just look at this
ping-a-n-esque
creature
Who looks like a microwaved
Version of mini me that's been bloating and rotting in the sun
Just the obvious arrogant pimpish eyes the the pimpish
specifically parasitical
uh phenomenon
that we've seen so many times
In the pbp class
And it is just hot belly profile
Disgusting to see this slime sucker going around. But you know what when I really go after mr. Sutherland
I shouldn't go after the fact that he looks like a reanimated
Uh wart on two legs in a bipedal
Stance
What I'm going to be going after him for
Is the fact of what he did to ireland
And if you can read his own bio he's quite proud of it. He's the one that got ireland
He's like the first man of ireland
The first pimp the bill clinton of ireland
Bill clinton he's the one that pimped him. He's the one that put him on the street
He's the one that jack slapped him and they bit down and thanked him for it
He's the guy that took ireland from being the number one economic engine in
Europe for 15 years got him to sign on to the eu
Signed them then on to all this debt that they didn't owe that's come out in the news
90 plus percent of it and then now they're totally in shambles imploding as he and others suck them dry
But don't worry. He goes to st patty's day events and wears green hats
It has green umbrellas and goes lug of the irish lukamy gang rape in you. Hey the pot of go be your money
I'm gonna screw you over. I be peter sutherland of the new old order goldman sacks. That is not a good irish
Paddy's because I got a hot poker for you. No, that's not a good act. It sounds like jar jar banks
You know likey
So
His and that's it. There isn't there isn't more ireland was ever the number one economic driver 15 years running of anything
15 years running the greatest economy ireland isn't even the greatest economic driver of ireland of the of the u
Or the uk. Yeah, yeah, nothing. Uh, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of issues. First of all, peter sutherland is from ireland
He is an irish too
He was born in 1946. He's an irish international businessman and former attorney general of ireland
He is associated with the fine gaol party. Oh, look at the gang rape too. Yeah
So, I mean all all alex has to go on is that he was involved with ireland becoming part of the eu
Yeah, that's what he's saying. He's not like it's just classic vague alex postulates and
Nonsense, it's all character assassination. It's all insulting. You're ugly, right?
What is a reanimated wart? I don't know. I don't know what an anime you need to animate. Exactly. Give me give me
When you close your eyes and think reanimated board. Here's what it is. Do you see?
There's a cartoon wart or like a wart that's been brought to life. Okay, then you got to kill it
It's voiced by tj miller in this you got to kill it then and then it comes back as a zombie
Okay, herbert west that shit
Reanimated up now. You've got a dead wart walking. See I immediately went to uh, the zombie form of king arthur
If you recall he was called wart as a child. I did not recall that I do because I am insane
Well, all right, we both have our insanity anyways, so alex's sword in the stone is a great movie alex's big disney
Plan to profile specific globalists ends up with him yelling about how ugly peter southerland is and then being like
I'm not gonna talk about his looks. I'm gonna talk about what he did to ireland
And then just he made them join the he didn't even make them. No just pushed for it gave them the opportunity
He was pushed for it and alex. They voted on it. He hates every international body and so of course it's just like that's it
That's it right and then he goes to commercial and he comes back with nothing
So it comes back. There's not more than that. That's it. Would he be for the soviet union or against it?
Well, it depends because that is an international body. I think it comes down to one thing
Has alex brushed up on his russian impression
Because if not
He's for it if he has been working on the accent then he's against it so he can do a fun
He is not been working on his irish accent. I will tell you that right now. Maybe his russian is better
Maybe his russian is better. I don't know
So that is a pathetic showing of a man who did not prepare. Oh, yeah
Did not prepare at all. That's an even a good northern irish accent like that
If you were trying to belfast that would be a different story, but come on man
Come on man
So instead of getting into more detail about peter southerland and what he's done
And like you were even saying knowing nothing about the man
There's plenty you could get into about the fact that he was part of bilderberg
You could get into what he did there if you golden sex is an evil organization
And if alex has secret sources and access to all these documents, he should have a dossier
Uh worse than that steel thing a dirty does a dirty dossier about peter southerland that he should be able to break down
It's sunday. It's a slow news day right he could take this entire two hour show because it's a shorter show on sunday
And spend the entire time breaking down. All right. I hate peter southerland. Here's why
Instead he insults his looks and then does an irish accent
And just says he got him into the eu great. Yeah, I don't care. You haven't convinced me. That's a great profile
I think he I would put that in time magazine
I think he thought that this was going to be like huge
I think he thought like this profiling globalist thing is going to be a hit and then he got into it
You know how sometimes got to do the profile. Well, that seems like an important piece
You know, sometimes you get on stage with a new bit that you're going to do and you think it's going to kill
And then you get on stage and you realize I haven't worked this out at all. Yeah. Yeah
I think that's what he did and bailed doing the accent as it goes to break and then was like, I'm not going to do that again
I'm not going to profile more globalist. He didn't even power through it, man. Yeah, and why don't you start with soros?
Why not that does make sense for him. Yeah, although maybe he's beaten the soros into a dead horse
Or he's saving him for sweeps week
I don't know
So instead of talking more about peter southerland and instead of doing anything productive
Alex jones gets distracted because there's a
Yeah, there's a clip uh of hillary clinton talking about how
Um in the australia, they had a gun buyback program that was very successful. Right. It was super successful incredibly so
Yeah, and so this clip starts and it's
Made their uh homicide rate drop, uh, it plummeted. Yeah, it really did. It was a very successful program
Sometimes it's a good idea to look at experiments that other nations have tried and see if they wouldn't uh be successful in your nation
Thus, you know
Growing the entire world at the same time. It's a good idea. You sound dumb. I do sound dumb
Hillary clinton's gonna sound equally dumb at the beginning of this clip and then alex is gonna say something really dumb
Okay, that's even it. I know that i'm saying everyone's dumb, but the the first two were jokes. He's really dumb
This was real dumb. Yeah evidence supports them that by offering to buy back those guns
They were able to you know
curtail the
supply and to set a different standard for
gun purchases
In the future
And the real crocodile dundee looked us up an nra magazine from about 16 years ago. He wouldn't turn in he has five shot
um
Dear rifle that his dad had given him and they they came to his house and gunned him down. They murdered him
The real crocodile dundee looks just like the guy from the movie that was based on a real guy
But they murdered him no criminal record lived way out in the countryside
They came to his house and gunned him down as he was dying he shot three of the cops though the gun confiscators
Show
Hold on hold on
Excuse me, sir. Excuse me question. Follow up question. Alex Jones. Follow up question. What did you just say?
He's actually even wrong
He said that he shot three cops
Uh, after good because they're gun grabbers right they're coming to take his gun
You got to gun him down. So I have done a lot of research into this
Do you mean you googled it one time? Oh, no, I I read a bunch of articles about this guy
Because I was like I didn't realize I don't know anything about the real crocodile dundee
Didn't know there was a real crocodile dundee. I knew there was a real crocodile dundee and then my
Interest ended right there. I was like that was a shitty movie. Why am I going to look up more three shitty movies?
No, I don't need to worry about it. So the uh, the real crocodile dundee it it turns out what it was
It was a guy named Rodney Ansel. It is kind of disappointing that he didn't try out an australian accent though. Oi
So Rodney there we go done
He wasn't like the real the crocodile dundee character is just a guy from the bush
You know who's uh loves animals and can can give you a good one liner, right?
He's like he's like the the mountain man archetype in uh in australia. Yeah, uh, Rodney Ansel was a guy whose boat crashed
And he survived in the wilderness for a couple weeks like sleeping in a tree to stay away from the crocodiles
And he had a couple dogs with him and a knife
Uh, that's not a knife. This is a knife. All right classic stuff. All right, dad
So he he you know, it was a cool tale of survival and what have you but it wasn't the same character as crocodile
Dundee as portrayed by paul hogan, of course not but tons of the shit was taken from him
Yeah, like the real crocodile dundee Rodney Ansel was like the inspiration for these
These sort of quirky behaviors like he went to a hotel and insisted on sleeping in a sleeping bag
Of course like these sorts of things. Yeah that make the character what he is are literally ripped from him little little character details that are
Uh, you know distinguishing so i've written this out from that make a fish out of water story
Delightful so i've written this out from uh my research and i'm just going to read this to you about what happened to Rodney Ansel
Okay, Rodney Ansel was killed in august of 1999 in a shootout with police 30 miles south of the city of darwin in australia
He was the inspiration for the paul hogan character, but to hear him tell it
He got more or less cut out of the profits of the movie and that seems to be true
That's almost certainly true. Yeah, I I that that I buy immediately some people have said he didn't get paid anything
Some people have said he got paid very little but no matter what he like this rights are yeah, he got fucked
Yeah, and so by the early 1990s. He was in a super bad financial situation in 1992
He was convicted of stealing cattle and assaulting a rancher
So so we've already established that he does have a criminal record at this point. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah
Alex jones was lying about he was cattle rustling gotcha, but maybe alex would think that that's uh law of the land
sovereign sovereign citizen
Yeah, so then on august 2nd 1999 ansel took a whole lot of speed
All right, and so like crocodile dundee. Yeah ansel's girlfriend
Sherry hueson had gotten it into his head that of some variety of like a freemason group had kidnapped their children
And they had uh this group had a history of killing young girls and bizarre rituals
Did they even have children first off? They had two children or at least uh, he did ansel had two children
But they were adults one was 20 one was 18, right?
And so she'd gotten into the head his head that they uh, the Illuminati or freemasons had kidnapped them and
I mean just think about how similar this is to alex jones. Wait, so was she said was she fucking with him?
Uh, she was also on speed. Oh, okay. All right. All right. And so that would be an even better story if it was just like a prank
Yeah, if it was a stunt stunt, it was a stunt. It's officially that was the whole thing. It's a legal stunt. Yeah
So, um
I just want to put a pin in it and really emphasize that this idea that freemasons had kidnapped their children is similar
To what alex jones says the globalists do of course
Which is interesting to see from a couple of speed heads
As opposed to alex jones who does his own weird supplements on air a brain force head if you will
So in his speed high ansel went off with a gun trying to get his children back
Not good that evening. He shot two men in darwin while just shooting at some caravans for reasons that uh, don't seem clear
I can't find an explanation for it. Anyway, and he's dead. So we don't know exactly why he did this
And I will quote now from the newspaper. That's not a caravan. This is a caravan
So quoting from the herald son here
Ansel fired six shots at their caravan on kentish road
Resident david hobdon jumped in his truck armed with his double barrel shotgun and went to investigate the shootings
He lost an eye when ansel put a bullet through the windscreen of his truck
Jesus
He ran to alert his neighbor brian williams who waxed wrath at the state of his mate's face and grabbed a baseball bat
Oh, that's why he was suspended from nbc for a while. It could be. Yeah, he lied about this
So he grabbed this dude brian williams grabbed a baseball bat
He charged at ansel who was trying at that point to steal mr. Hobdin's truck
This is already like you've just given me eight different bad decisions from everyone involved already totally
Yeah, uh, so quote I smacked him straight down the forehead
And that's when he blew my hand off mr. Williams told police
That shouldn't be funny, but that's fucking funny. It's crazy. Yeah, that's fucking hilarious
He was going on and on about stealing his children and free masons and being a baby killer
Oh, he was just mad mate. Baby killer. That's a quote baby killer. Mm-hmm. Yeah
Ansel fired shots at the williams house
Then he ran away his rifle in one hand and mr. Hobdin's shotgun in the other and at that
So not only did he not get his guns taken away by the government
He actually took away other people's guns. He's a gun grabber. Yeah, gotcha
So at that point he runs into the bush and tries to hide
Uh, and at about 10 30 a.m. The next day the removals worker. I'm not sure what that is
I guess it's probably like a trash person or uh, the removals worker. Yeah, I know. I'm not sure
It's some sort of civic job though. I don't know removals worker named jonathan anthonies
Was leaning on a cop car chatting with the officers when a bullet blew a hole the size of a baseball in his pelvis
Jesus
So, uh, what you have is rodney ansel
Has been hiding in this woods and he sees a cop car and he shoots this uh, this removals worker
Uh, and it just shoots a baseball. It just explodes him. Yeah, that's fucked up
So I don't the details at this point are all murky. It's not murky, but who cares he ends up killing a cop
And and then they kill him in his just trying to get out of the woods
I guess he's still probably on a speed high right and has realized I just shot a guy's hand off
I just shot it like their car right their house
Fuck it might as well lean into it right and he realizes like oh shit panic
And if he still believes the freemasons have his kids right these cops are probably in on it
Right and so he ends up killing one cop shooting him in the side and like bleeds out
And then they gun battle persists dan. Do you know what this story has taught me?
What's that?
It's important to get rid of regulations that keep mentally ill people from getting guns
They should have them even if he was everyone should have guns dan even if he was like mentally ill
I think people would still buy let him buy a gun. He's the real crocodile dandy. Oh, that's true. He's a celebrity
Anyway, that would be a very different movie if it ended with uh, paul hogan murdering four people in a cop
Jesus
No, no, no the other people didn't die
It was oh, they didn't just the cop died from what I can find all right
The one guy one guy lost a hand one guy lost an eye
And I think that the guy who had a the baseball size hole in his pelvis
I think he survived from what I understand. All right
I
Don't want to be quoted on it
But I know at least he killed that cop and that's bad enough, right?
And then uh, they shot they shot him down in a firefight. Alex jones did not just lie
About crocodile the real crocodile dandy. No, but in fact the real crocodile dandy is a cop killer
Who he as he pretends to hate so long as it is black people and he probably killed that cop with a stolen gun
Of course, uh and alex's version of it where they knocked on his door and tried to take his daddy's gun
That's such bullshit. Where did he even get that story? Probably from some weird unsourced blog
Probably world net daily or something like that one of these dumbass sites that he writes
I don't know, but if you look if you look into the reality, uh, he was on speed
That's fucked up the coroner. I believe his quote was there is no doubt that this man was in amphetamine psychosis
Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah
Anyway, jesus christ man
So he that's one of the things he does on this show. Alex getting stuff wrong is bad, but this is fucking horrific
It seems intentionally wrong. Yeah, it seems like he's uh, he doesn't care how wrong he is
He just doesn't like that his hero, uh, paul hogan was associated with this ansel guy
I'm sure he opened the paper up the day 1999 that ansel gets killed and he's like, oh crikey
How am I gonna spend this? All right. All right, dad. All right, dad get the fuck out of here
All right, let's go to the next clip. You're done. You're done. So in this next clip
We get to open up, uh, the door to the uh, what's going to be the rest of october 18th
Okay, no trump crikey, but what it's fine for you
You're a fucking globalist with your hypocrisy
So, uh, the rest of the show alex tries to take phone calls and this first call is a mic down clip because it's fucking hilarious
Alex gets super mad at this caller before he even lets him on air
Then doesn't listen to the caller who's being very reasonable and just freaks out at him
Okay, he just he does one of his patented
Intentional blow-ups just two days after the last one rare not even a week. It's too soon
No, I know this the must mean that this is mental illness and not intentional performance
Right. Uh, so here we go. The truth is I like our founding fathers a lot of them were masons
That's why they call me a mason fine. I am one. I'm jewish. I'm masonic. I'm mexican. I'm black
I'm german which actually am I'm i'm english, which I mean just I'm all the bad things. Okay, boom. I'm bad
You're good. You're a winner. You're moral. You're better than me. I'm scum. I'm filth. I'm trash good
You are a man. I am trash. You're better than me now get out there and take on the globalist right now
Do something we're under attack
Go ahead. Carl set me straight. Show me what a man you are set me in line right now
Look at all your accomplishments. Tell me right now
Hey, uh, can you hear me? Yeah, of course. I can hear you. I just want to tell you
Yeah, uh, so first off, I'm gonna say I'm a fan and this is not an attack, but
We're under attack
Yeah, I know and I'm not attacking him. I'm really I'm not sure and I if you are controlled opposition
I am I am you caught me. That's why I went to you. You just believe you. Oh, you just scored a point
You just counted coup. You just took your first scalp. You just took down alex jones. I knew you'd do that
What a big man you are
Oh, whoa
Yeah, I'm loyal opposition
Like i'm a chinese jet pilot from mars. Go ahead
But you know, you gotta be paranoid after waking up for the first time that everything coming at you is alive
I'm really just questioning everything. So, you know, I really just have to bring this question
I know I know no one ever goes to the actual geo engineering documents or the actual
Emergency centers documents on the confirmed camps. I have they just keep running around looking for the theory. They can't prove I get it
Well, hear me out. So the idea is that like your popular
on purpose by the
evil society controllers with the idea of you being like an information gatekeeper
So that's it
For the first time we'll most likely discover it through you and get your version of the truth
And that's the advantage of the gatekeeper being that rookie conspiracy theorists always get your version of the truth first
And the great truth you spread on the show which I love and which got me hooked on you the first place
It becomes like a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down where the medicine is like
Listen god bless you and I just want to just congratulate you
On discovering the truth and now tune into another show
Or go off and bash me all day. Okay. That's that's all I can say
I'm gonna continue trying to warn people about the big issues
Okay, and the truth is I'm just sick of that question like I'm sick of people with a radio on in the background
It's it's like Chinese water torture where they just drip it and drip it and drip it and drip it to you go crazy
Oh boy, I don't I'm starting to think Alex doesn't have very good listening skills
No, because that guy that call could have gone very differently. Yeah, uh, that he called could it have the caller could have just made
His very reasonable point
And Alex would be like I understand where you're coming from and it's scary to have a world opened up to you
Where you know everything you thought was wrong is true and what you thought was true is wrong
Uh, but uh, hey, I want to assure you that I'm on the right side of this thing. Fuck you
I hate you. You think you want to win points against me go watch another show
Right. I mean that's that's sad that I bet at the same time. I kind of get where he's coming from
There are a lot of people that believe he's controlled opposition. I don't necessarily think that I mean he's controlled by russia
Yeah, in my experience. I don't in a certain way that is controlled opposition
I don't see him as being what these people
That like this caller say like I don't think I don't find much
Credibility in that argument
No, like the globalists have set him up as a gatekeeper and what have you yeah
No, that doesn't make any goddamn sense. It doesn't it doesn't also the globalists don't exist
So that's one problem in that theory. There is that
There's the underlying basis being false anyways, but I love I love that just like he gets himself rock hard
Before he even gets into that call. Yeah, he's chomping at the bit screaming before he brings him in
Yeah, he wants he wanted somebody to be against him and instead he got a fan
Yeah, and he didn't and then you you heard the change in his tone once he realized that
I think it was that he ran out of stamina. Oh that could I think he hasn't been he has no cardio
Like he like he's a boxer who would like tire out in the second round
He's just not worked on his fundamentals and so he can he can scream for about two minutes
Right, and then he's done right which I still admire. I couldn't do that. I couldn't scream for two minutes
Uh, yeah, I think I'm I think I'm out. You could oh, yeah, I think you could probably uh, if I were drunk, maybe
Uh, so that's the first call which explains why alex jones is so good at being drunk on a show
It's a fair point. Uh, so that's the first call the second call goes
Quite a bit differently. Okay, very weird
Uh, quite a bit differently ben and pencil vanya. You're on the air. Thanks for holding them. We'll go to uh, lia go ahead
Hey, uh, thanks so much alex
Hey, I'd like to speak very briefly about 9 11
back in the news recently in the back and forth between trumps and bush
and uh
Do you want a Sunday broadcast a very very short prayer
Oh, my father lord jesus christ. I pray to you with all my heart that you might provide strength
courage guidance wisdom and inspiration to a true
brave and selfless selfless patriot
From within the ranks of our military our intelligence community or a current or past elected
representatives
To enable them to release directly to the american people
The full and complete text of the illegally and immorally classified and redacted 28 pages of the 9 11 report
Amen. Amen. Amen
They just had to call a pray on air for a minute
That's a that's a that's a prayer to reveal saudi arabia did it. Yeah, that's a very strange prayer
It's a prayer. It's a lord lord
Please please grant me the strength to hate saudi arabia as much even though it technically is our ally
We refuse to let everybody know and uh, and like i mean
What the idea that saudi arabia was involved or anything like that?
You could guess that from the fact that everyone was from saudi arabia
Yeah, you could just you could just be like a lot of i bet it was saudi arabia
A lot of that stuff's not bombshell type information
But it is weird that he has what does he think is in the 28 pages
The the guy thinks it's the guy praying or alex no the the guy who's praying he thinks it's the united states government
Yeah, who hid the fact that they
Foss flagged 9 11. I believe that well. I don't know that to be true. Yeah, I bet that's what the call probably probably
Yeah, I bet it's like the 28 pages is just all the proof that globalists are real, right?
That's all the it's the it's the it's whatever you want it to be right because it's classified
You can believe it's the fucking it's the red herring or whatever the classical uh
The suitcase yeah, again if you were the united states government and you had perpetrated 9 11
You wouldn't be like well, we'll write it down, but we better classify these pages classify the fuck out of this
Yeah, exactly because that'll really make a conspiracy theorists not curious. Yeah
They'll really leave us alone if we classify this in 70 years when a freedom of information act declassifies it
I'm sure we'll be fine. Yeah undoubtedly. I'm sure they'll still trust us
So that is about where we drop off with the uh the 18th the sunday show not a lot not a lot got done prayers
Yeah, very weird when that happened. I was like, I don't know. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do anymore
Why would you pray it's sunday? Why does anybody pray?
I mean, I understand it has a sort of meditative effect
And there's uh, there's there's reasonable reasons to do it lord. Please don't let me get hit by a gay bomb
Gay bomb that would really uh, that would really bum me out jesus
So october 19th is a boring ass show, so I don't know any clips of it
But i'll run down a little bit of what happened on there
Alex jones has learned about homin square here in chicago
The uh, was it cia or was it just police dark site? It was the police the police
It was just the regular old cpd. Alex might think it's cia
But uh, the dark site where they'd like torture people come on alex
Our police just our police system can be as corrupt and evil as anybody else's undoubtedly
Yeah, so he he he's learned about that and uh, he minimizes it by being like we reported on that a decade ago. Sure great
Um, he eulogizes erwin schiff, uh, the father of peter schiff, right? Uh, who uh, is he's an economist?
Yeah, the the notoriously uh, uh, tax-based prosecution
Or persecuted man. Yeah, and uh, he goes on a long jag about how he was a great man
And they put him in prison and because he wouldn't stop selling a book political prisoner
Political prisoner they were uh crushing our free speech dan
He declares that he hopes that he has the level of courage
That erwin schiff does i'm like, okay great. I think I have the I think I have enough courage not to pay taxes
Well possibly I don't think it would be too hard. No, it's not a courageous act. It's kind of a lazy act
No, I could just be like, ah, I forgot guys. Uh, whatever
Um, he goes on a long jag about how psychos like to attack women and children because they grovel more
Makes sense and psychos get more out of that because men are too strong
Make sense strong to make scared perfect. Yeah, so that's uh, not internalized sexism at all
From uh, toxic toxic masculine not at all
He also says that he doesn't make his kids do their homework because he encourages them to just be more manipulative
Basically, great. He's like, you know, you just got to know how to get things out of people. That's perfect. That's great
That should have come up in your fucking. Yeah, no kidding
If he if he hadn't said it on the show it would have
The only thing I regret not pulling, uh, but I felt like it was petty of me to do so is uh, he goes on a long rant about how
Some ambassador's daughter, uh, is sexually aroused by the idea of killing him because she was on msmbc
And uh, talked about how much he hates alex jones
And uh, he was just like, look at that. You could tell she's fucking wet. I mean not in those words, but
That's what he's getting at. He's like, oh, yeah
She just wants me that sort of thing. It's nonsense. The rest of the show is all just super boring
There's nothing about trump, uh, but at the end he has an interview with a guy named martin armstrong
And he has not come up on the show before but uh, he is a guy that alex thinks is a genius
And he is crazy. He's an idiot. He's created a, uh, uh, algorithm
Maybe or a computer program. Sure that has accurately predicted a couple of weird, uh, stock collapses
Around the world and economies, uh, where the dollar or that whatever their currency has fallen out
He has predicted a couple things in the past, uh, that have been borderline prophetic
I don't know if this is true. I'm just going on what they say on the show. I did not look into it
Okay, here's why because he literally predicts that the economic collapse of the dollar has to happen by march 2016
So, uh, how did it go did not happen? Are you sure? Yep positive
Okay, i'm gonna trust you on this one dan. Also, he talks a bit about, uh, the coax the coke brothers
Yeah, I hope they die and uh his his take on the coax is that uh, they should die
There's one little part of things they are not which makes me think that maybe he has some allegiances to the coax
Oh, absolutely. Or uh, those fucking libertarian coxsucking pieces of shit. Well, right wing billionaires
He's not so worried about of course not left wing billionaires. Why would you give a shit that robert mercer just fucking
Ruined the election in kenya. No big fucking deal. No big problem that robert mercer has officially screwed up
Three countries now, but uh, the supreme court in kenya overturned the election. So that's great. That is good news
Yeah, so we'll see what happens if only we had a functional fucking supreme court dan. It'd be nice
Um, so I I do I do think it's very interesting the idea that uh, that right wing left wing billionaire thing because soros
He says is
Literally trying to overthrow other countries whereas we I mean
Mercer did it did do that did absolutely do that. Um,
So we move on real mercer is a super villain like it's kind of amazing
Like if if it weren't for the fact that it was destroying the world it would be kind of admirable to see one man
Destroy the world either way. It's impressive. Yeah, it is impressive in as much as it makes an impression
Yes, yeah, but be that as it may we got to get on to the 20th because the 20th. I think is
Um, I I don't even know how to put it
strongly enough
That is sorry I I can't get off for a second
I can't get off mercer for a second. It is just like the the true end point
And as as dan takes a sip of wine when I start talking
It it is kind of the true end point of unregulated capitalism that one guy can just sell
overthrowing countries
Like that's kind of insane. Yeah, like it's what and it's what's happened with uh, all the banana republics that we've gone over in
the past like capitalism is an engine to
Destroy human life. Sure. And this stuff with like black water making the argument eric prince making the argument
Privatize the iraq war great. That's basically the same thing great. That's basically over through countries. Yeah
To some extent, right? Uh, the world's gonna starting to think the second sons in game of thrones aren't exactly the good guys
Oh, yeah, um, so we we gotta get to the 20th. I want to talk about mercer
I want to talk about game of thrones
All right, the 20th dan, okay, we have we have reached a date
We'll compromise and continue on with the show. I will offer you, uh, by way of rapprochement
I will offer you this next clip, uh, where alex jones finally says something about donald trump. Okay
Just look at these headlines at info wars dot com
trump bush new in advance
9 11 was coming
Well, trump knows that was in the new york post and
The new york times just weeks after 9 11
It came out there was advanced knowledge and then years later the memo came out that connelly sir ice did have specifics and was told
Not to fly the day of 9 11 the day before she even called billy brown then mayor of san francisco
And told him not to fly
And then I would hold up the san francisco chronicle or the new york post and sit with headlines bush new
And they would have national media claim that I was saying that bush blew up the towers
I don't know what bush specifically did
I know there were bombs in building 7 and it fell at freefall speeds
Which even nistas had to admit now
After what was it eight nine years of them denying it they started admitting it about five years ago
Did they?
So that's a big deal. We've got donald trump's comments coming up. So that's what he has
He's pretty excited that donald trump is bringing 9 11 uh up to insult jeb bush, right? That's such a that's such a weird
Because that's a signal to noise ratio issue with our intelligence system
Yeah, we knew or not we but our our agencies knew that an attack was possible. Yeah, and
Was coming that's why I did the duh sound there
But they also knew that 10 million different attacks were possible and there are so many different threats going on right
It's hard for it's hard for and then you know
Intelligence agencies have a weird competition with each other. So they don't necessarily share information
like there's there's a whole series of
a
Comical errors that led to thousands of people dying. Yeah, like it's
You know and and I suppose you
Like somebody should be blamed for that
Sure, but I think the larger issue is all the war crimes and the lies. I agree
I think that's probably the bigger issue. I agree wholeheartedly
And I also it sucks that a couple of thousand people died in the united states
But the half a million civilians that died in iraq. That's probably worse. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely
Probably definitely. Okay, definitely just from a mathematical side, but it's interesting
No talk about trump for a couple days and now that trump has tried to cock out jeb bush
Uh with his 9 11 stuff trump doesn't give a fuck about 9 11
His response on 9 11 was now my buildings look bigger. Yeah
So I mean he doesn't give a shit at all and I love just using it to insult a competitor
I loved how much money he donated uh to all that wait. No, that was none
That was none
I'm a big fan of him promising to donate
A million dollars to the houston recovery effort. Wait, is it not going to be his personal money or fucking really going to happen?
Probably I like how he's going to release his tax returns. I don't think he's actually going to do that
Wait, no, he said he wasn't going to do that. Sure. I like how
Uh, there is a fucking wildfire going on in la right now. It's a fucking emergency
I like his response to that wait. No, there was no response the biggest ever in la
I'm a big fan of that. He fucking ended DACA. That's great. It's great that we have two
National fucking emergencies going on but wonderful
Let's kick hundreds of thousands of people out who have done goddamn nothing wrong
I I I fucking love it and then my fucking christian bullshit family is like no, this is a good idea. Fuck you
Fuck this fuck trump
Anyways, you good?
Little bit. Okay, not really. No, not really. I'm still very very angry about this
I was gonna see if you could make it to the two-minute point. I don't I just don't know how
I I could but it's just like it's just so expected at this point. Like I'm not at all surprised
Yeah, that's the normalization. Yeah, it's it's but I'm normalization, baby
I'm so furious, but it's like well, of course he's doing this
Yeah, all of this like repeated bullshit. That's that's an apathy bomb, baby every fucking time
It's just such a normal occurrence now to watch a man be a monster
and it you and
And he does it in such a dumb way that it's it's almost smoke screen for the monsters who are going to carry this out, but
He called out jab about his brother and alex is excited about that. All right. Well, then let's make that man president
He's pretty excited about it. I don't know if it's enough to get him on board yet
But he's pretty he's pretty pumped that a weirdo is talking shit
Because most presidential candidates would know that this is alex jones is pumped that a weirdo is talking shit
I can see I can see no parallel though
He's thrilled that someone is bringing his world into respectable society. Yes, and I think that as we all were
Oh, yeah, super super excited about that
But he does not stay on that topic very long. He has other fish to fry on this october 20th show
Namely, uh
What's going on with hitler?
Hitler was a bad guy, but
He was set up by British intelligence. He had a secret treaty with him. That's come out with the deputy furor root all fast
That's why he later parachuted into edward the eighths home
A state with the treaty in his hand. That's why they locked him up in the tower of london
That's right. The vice president of germany the deputy furor. That's not the same thing parachuted
Now he was a world war one ace
Jumped out and skydived into edward the eighths palace
With the treaty thinking that stunt would it didn't do anything for him. That's true. You got locked up
He actually knocked on the door. He's like I live here now. So that's how this stuff works
So that is how it works
Is it it's not I feel like it's not he is so full of shit
Was it was it edward the eighth?
Uh, who or no which it was one of the royal family who had to
Leave because he was appeasing hitler. Yeah, I believe that was I do. Yeah, that was edward. He was I recall that
I don't believe he he signed a secret treaty
Also, rudolf hess was going not to meet with him. He was going to meet with the duke of hamilton
Ah, yes, uh, lin-manuel maranda. Indeed
This story is super interesting and I don't know if enough people know about it
But alex jones is lying his ass off about it. Uh, so rudolf hess was a hundred percent set up
There is no doubt about that
But uh, he wasn't set up the way alex thinks hitler wasn't set up. He wasn't
So was in in may 1941 rudolf hess took a plane and flew into scotland
He was carrying with him a proposal that he intended to deliver to church hill that he hoped would create a truce between germany and england
He wanted to do this because he knew that hitler was about to attack the soviet union
Right, and he thought boy. This would be real fucking dumb to be fighting in east and west
Uh, I think that would probably be a disaster. So in a certain way he's smart
Yeah, and and the initial appearance of it is that he was trying to save hitler from himself
And he was trying to create peace with the west in order to attack the east. Yes, uh
I don't know about that. It's that's a little bit of a dicey argument
But not a good argument hess was set up by british intelligence for sure because he got in touch with somebody and they recommended that he reached out to the duke of hamilton
And so he sent a letter to the duke of hamilton
Intending to try and set up a soiree where the two of them could
Get a piece of cord going and get it to church hill
But the letter that he sent was intercepted by mi6 mi5. I can't remember the numbers
He was it wasn't bond. Okay, whatever the case. All right
So it gets intercepted by british intelligence and he doesn't hear back from
His contact the duke of hamilton. Uh, he's like fuck it. I'm going anyway
And we know these not see now
He went from being smart to not being smart
Well, we know these things because of letters that he wrote to his wife
So a lot of this now he's double not smart
Well, and also he left a letter for hitler after he left to explain
I'm going to england and this is the reason i'm doing it dear hitler
I will miss you so much right, but I feel like I must take this journey
For both of our best interests. It would be true if that was what was said
Because I mean if we take ethics out of it take monstrosity out of it just from a simple strategy point
He could have saved germany from losing the war. It's so wonderful. How many horrible dictators wind up destroying themselves
Like that's nice. It's reassuring in a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, so there's more. Unfortunately. They commit all them atrocities first
There's more to this story. Uh-huh. So, uh
Hess contacted the duke of hamilton because someone told him that he was a member of the opposition party in england
And that he secretly didn't want to have war with germany
So he thought he would be a sympathetic ear for all this. Uh, he was not no
He was absolutely not so hess goes over he flies and he does parachute out, uh, but he lands in his
It would have to there's no way that they're letting a german plane land in the uk
What are you fucking talking about?
I'll just uh, I'll just land on his base. No big deal. So the way alex describes it
It's almost like he parachutes in the window. Yeah, that's not what he did. Yeah, it was on the estate
He lands on the guy's uh property somewhere triple dumb. He's immediately found by
Landscapers or just people around. I don't know. I'm assuming with the landscaper thing
That's like a that's like from hot shots part do yeah somebody's just some guy trimming a hedge is like
Wait, what the fuck are you doing? We got to capture you. Yeah. So he's immediately captured and kept as a prisoner of war
And uh, you know, eventually the war ends. He's part of the nuremberg trials
Uh, and he gets a trial and they decide that based on the position that he had
He absolutely conspired to create a war right unlawfully
But he didn't necessarily commit crimes against humanity or any of the you know camp stuff
And so I don't understand how those charges are different
I don't either but he ended up getting a life sentence instead of death
And so he ended up going to uh the spandauw prison and died in 1980 something at the age of 93
He committed suicide. So that's how that's too late. Yes. Should have should have gotten him early
So that's his story uh from life to death, but uh publicly when he went in 1941
Hitler was furious about this
But he took it as a personal betrayal because he was chiefly worried about the idea of what is japan and italy going to think
If it looks like I
Allowed someone to try and make peace with england. They're not going to trust me anymore
Right and our whole alliance is going to break down right so he put on this public face of like
I'm furious at this guy to the point where he stripped Hess of all of his titles
He was the deputy furor, but that wasn't the that's not the vice president. That's like third. It's third in command
Yeah, herman gurring was second
The hess was third right, uh, but he uh, he put out that he stripped him from his office and all of his titles
And the order was given to shoot him on site
And so that made everyone think that hitler had nothing to do with it right when in fact
So some documents have come out that suggest that hitler did know in advance
That hess was going to fly to scotland and this attempted mission to entice the uk into peace
In order to have a bigger war elsewhere, but just not with you guys
Dear hess right. I wish you the best on this journey. I shall miss you every day. You're gone. So truly
We are brothers ah
So the idea that um
The idea that hitler did know about it comes from
Some documents that were written by hess's adjudant, which is I guess I didn't know this
I guess it's basically just an administrative assistant to military people. Yeah, it's a pa. Yeah, so I read this
There's an article from der spiegel that talks about this and uh,
These documents are dubious and it's one of the things that alex jones is basing this idea that there was a secret treaty on
Uh, uh, and they're all legitimate evidence shows that
A hitler and hess probably conspired together to send uh hess
With a potential peace treaty to try and entice them into not fighting
While they took out or tried to take out the soviet union. Yeah, and then of course aggression would begin again
Of course, they needed uh, the west not to attack on that front also
But here is this from the article in der spiegel, which brings us into why alex jones might believe some of these narratives
At the end of the war the adjudant became a prisoner of war in the soviet union
Where he was questioned by soviet intelligence about the events in the spring of 1941
According to historian, uh
Ull, again, I don't have his first name here. I feel shitty. Anyway, ull according to his research
copies of his statements were sent to soviet dictator joseph stalin foreign minister
Molotov and uh, but who has someone else the head of the intelligence service
Okay, I can't say russian names on the fly. Don't worry about it
It's unclear whether what these men read was the truth or simply what they wanted pinched to say
That's the adjudant. Uh, it is noticeable that the adjudant used vocabulary more commonly found in soviet propaganda
The cold war had all yeah, the cold war had already begun and pinched statement
pinched stated that the reason he wanted to go public with his information at this particular time was that quote
Reactionary circles in england and america are striving to unleash a war the adjudant statement ends with these words quote the fact
Uh, the facts i'm reporting confirmed that england by promoting hitler's aggression against soviet russia
Acted in accordance with its old principle of using using foreign hands to remove the chestnuts from the fire
right
The theory of a russian british conspiracy
Corresponds to the interpretation favored by stalin who until the german invasion of his country in june
22nd 1941 had believed that hitler would not allow a war on two fronts and would seek peace with britain first
But stalin was wrong naturally. So
Let's look at this
The idea that there was a conspiracy between germany and england. I can't imagine where that would come from soviet propaganda
Where would that come from soviet propaganda? No, i'm gonna need more
Uh, no, never mind. This is why that's that's one of the reasons that uh, if you were at all, uh intelligent
You realize that torture doesn't work unless you want someone to say what you want them to if you want a specific outcome
Yeah, exactly. If you want reality
What you do is the same dumb shit that we did with the uh, german scientist after world war two paper clip
Which is you fucking give them whatever they want. Yeah, you know
But but the reason that i i know we took a little bit of time on this what seems to be a toss away narrative on alex's part
Uh, but he's because once again it ties back to the fact that alex will believe any russian propaganda
He's beholden to russian propaganda from the
Protocols of the elders a zion to the idea that germany and england conspired. Yeah, uh,
To what it is
It is crazy that the beginning of this all goes back to russian intelligence
Yeah, like that's bananas to me that a hundred years ago russian intelligence made alex jones happen
Like that's bananas and i think the fact that we're uncovering this might lead to our death
I hope so frankly. That's a great way to die. Are you shitting me? I think uh, live show might end with us getting murdered
Quite frankly herman hess will actually parachute in and murder us. I'm fine with herman hess doing it
I have a tattoo of herman hess at one of his books on my shoulder. I know that's what makes it funny
I love the man. Ah, I'm not sure I love him, but I love some of his works. Okay
I don't know. He might have been a bad dude, but anyway, also he broke your heart the more intro
Yeah, I fucking did not like narcissism goldman not a great book
Siddhartha is fine. Siddhartha is okay. It's fine. It's okay. It's fine
Welcome back to the uh knowledge fight podcast where we are now discussing weird literature that we read that weird
But at the same time, I love that our book review show would be us agreeing in different tones
It's a good book. It's a great book. It's okay
So, uh, also, it's just interesting that alex jones believes such flimsy shit in order to defend hitler hitler of all people
Like I
What are you doing?
I mean, it's crazy that marvel would have him supporting the red skull
That's the first thing that I think at this point. It just makes more and more sense when I hear him defending hitler
I think the red skull wasn't that bad. Yeah, that's fair
Marvel should be offended by yeah, exactly. You're you're actually normalizing alex jones by having him support red skull
Yeah, uh, so the episode goes on and he has a fairly long interview with a gentleman by the name of joel scousen
Uh, who is a dick? Uh, I don't know his credits. I don't care to list him off here
Uh, but he hit one of his primary narratives is that the government straight up did 9 11
He doesn't have time for this mealy mouth bullshit that alex is throwing around right now government all the way
Uh, and he says that's that's one of the conspiracy like there's one conspiracy theory
And that is that the united states government
Perpetrated 9 11 that I will never not have a twinge of like maybe like I don't know what it is about that one in particular
Because I I don't give a shit about conspiracy theories like like jfk like I don't care chances are he was killed by
That's probably because it was not in your lifetime. That's possible
But at the same time like that's the big conspiracy theory, you know, that's always going to be that
Turning point of history of did that's what the globalists were created. Well pretty much
Like did did that happen but 9 11 being perpetrated by the u.s. Government. It's such a
I I think it's just a w thing. I think it's just like that's such a george w bush move
Like I don't know what it is about w, but it's like I bet he probably committed that and and to be fair
I don't believe that
Of course not, but it's one of the reasons I don't want to unpack 9 11 stuff too hard on this podcast
Like I on the that's what they want you to think one of our big
Rules is we're never doing a 9 11 episode right. There's just too much right
There's too many theories a lot of them are pretty easy to debunk to debunk and some are impossible to debunk and most of them are
Dumb right like but but that's I think that's the thing just not dumb enough
I think that's the thing. I hate w so much like that's the amazing thing about trump as bad as trump is
w was the worst
Yeah, like w has led to more
Destabilization and it's really time. It's written. No, of course if he has two terms. He'll do way worse. Oh my god
If he has two terms, it's too late for all of us. W had eight years to do a lot of the w was a true
Well, I w is probably fine, but chamey was a true monster right in the same way that uh, kisser
Yeah, kissinger was a true monster
I mean, don't you think that part of the function of that is that they were good at administrative shit?
Like the devil is probably a great middle manager metaphorically. Uh, I would I would bet
Not metaphorically either, but you know what I mean like yeah, no, no, I do know what trump is not going to be able to implement
All the evil shit he wants to because he's so bad at paperwork and he's surrounded by idiots
Yeah, unlike unlike w who's who had chamey and chamey was an evil monster, right?
Which is let's that's but that's why I I have a hard time like immediately
Getting over my emotional reaction to 9-11 and we're like just missing it whole cloth
Yeah, exactly because if you told me chamey did anything
Regardless of how insane it was I'd have a twinge of like he probably did now
There would be that moment
I want to take every clip of everything alex says about the globalists and cut in me saying dick chaney
I would be like, ah, it's probably true. This makes sense. I I just for a moment. It's not like I believe it
It's just like there's always that moment of like, oh that could have happened
Yeah, so Joel scousen like I wouldn't put it past chaney to have committed 9-11. Sure. Yeah
I'm I'm okay with us leaving it there
Exactly. That's where it leaves. That's where it ends. Uh, so Joel scousen is on the show and
Like I said, he's a dick right um 9-11
We're not gonna listen to too much of that but I do never forget Joel scousen
I do want to point out that he has alex just has guests on who believe shit like this southerland admits. This is world government
Well, I think it has to do also with the satanic nature of this conspiracy. I mean clearly this you can't no single person
any mafia evil wealthy
powerful person couldn't get
This globalist agenda started two or three centuries ago and directed and keep it going past 20 or 30 years
It has to be a revelatory
guided
Conspiracy, and I think there's something a dimension beyond global government in terms of destruction of culture destruction of christianity
destruction of religion and the creation of a worldly secular society where there's conflict and hatred
So, yeah, the devil
Yeah, the devil. I just wanted to show that like
That'd be great if that's how half of our clips ended with just alex jones saying some dumb shit
And we're like, it's the devil and then we move on next it's become blasé. Yeah, like, uh, all right
Oh, is it just the devil boring another person blaming the devil for shit? All right
Do these people actually believe the devil is real? I think so
Do people actually believe the devil is real? I think these some of these people do it's tough to tell who's authentic and who's doing it for
Working across purposes. You're trying to score some other points. Yeah, like alex jones. Obviously
I think his christianity is an act and I think he's doing it in order to bolster his
White identity beliefs and stuff like that what he believes is entirely
Different. Yeah, it's some sort of bizarre like in the same way. He believes in common law as opposed to law
Yeah, he believes in common christianity. Yeah, some sort of proto christianity. Perhaps even that
He's like he's like some sort of weird spiritual. Well, you know how like, uh,
He doesn't really understand how to tell if something's fake and he's tricked by every single piece of soviet propaganda
Right, it's really possible that he read a bunch of like, you know, the lost books of the bible and forgotten books of eden
Or any of those gospels that were written as literature back then right, right?
That you know, anyone could just write a book about biblical figures. I kind of find there's hundreds of books
There's hundreds of books. I find it more likely that he
Like in the same way like if you recall he had the six hour long dream, right? Like I oh, that's his religion
I find it more likely that he has uh, what he thinks are
Revelation style dreams that's possible. That's that's more likely to me
What it is his religion is yeah, and that's why his sense of morality is non-existent
He believes it's god dictating it, but it's really whatever he in his subconscious want to will it's whatever he
It's whatever he wants to justify whatever it is. He says yeah
His prejudices are his religion. Yeah, so in the same way that most peoples are there
That's not that's not like unique to him. Yeah, exactly. Um, so Joel scows and also is like that and uh, he's not thrilled with muslims in general
And so alex actually has this to say
He has this to say
In this clip and again the muslims. I went to high school within college with with were professionals their parents were
Community college engineers. They were pretty nice people. I liked them, but the new influxes are poor
They are not assimilating. They're very arrogant instead of being like hey
I'm in you know embarrassed and I'm here getting stuff free. It's a very chest out face out
You better watch it attitude that the left is instilling in them
Very very destructive and then the the left loves all this
When it should be totally incompatible with their whole lifestyle of we're going to teach your five-year-olds how to have gay sex
Well, the muslims would chop their heads off for that
Ah
But they're very angry as well and um, you see that in every video in europe
Just the anger and the hatred against western society because you don't give us enough fast enough
Ah, they don't give enough, uh, yeah, you never see anger in a western society. Certainly not
You never see anybody you never see anybody screaming and I fucking and that shit drives me insane
I noticed I noticed from your body language. Yeah, okay. All right. Calm it down. I'm sorry. I'm
I understand but make your point. It's every fucking time you get this kind of bigotry
There is always the preamble of the ones I met were fine
Right the good one almost like they're fucking people
Like every fucking buddy else and if you didn't sit in your tiny little spot only ever interacting with white people
Maybe you would fucking figure that shit out. Yeah, it drives me insane that there's always that fucking story
Well, you the the the news articles you read about trump
Cities who are like wait a second the guy we know is gonna be deported
I didn't realize that was a possibility and that's because they're fucking stupid
Every single fucking one of these people is fucking dumb and i'm done with this shit. Well, and I don't want it
Here's what's fascinating about what all of these people do
As they resist the urge to commit a composition fallacy while at the same time committing a composition fallacy
So essentially what that is is you take a single example and universalize it to a group
Right, so if I were to I don't know talk about you I would say guys with visible tattoos scream a lot
And that would be wrong. There's one example
One example a lot
I think I have hours of evidence
I disagree
But like that is wrong to do because there's nothing intrinsic about having visible tattoos
That would make one want to scream or more likely to scream of course
So the composition fallacy they refuse to make is I know a good muslim
Therefore all muslims are good, but they do still make it with the i'm scared of that muslim
So i'm scared of all muslims. Yeah, and it's it's fascinating to me because on the one hand
Good, I mean you should you have an appropriate
skepticism in a certain extent and a completely inappropriate and destructive
Murderous logical fallacy in the other right and it indicates that you're not operating from a place of reason or logic
You're operating from visceral experience, but you're trying to present it as something that's rational reasonable
And it's just not it comes from
I don't know childhood fears
Uh propaganda that you've taken in all this stuff and it's my my dad sends me articles from uh the spectator
and national review
Which is just this it's the exact same shit alex jones yells about but
Wrapped up in this pseudo intellectual bullshit. Like if it's it's
Pathetic to see somebody it's like
It's like seeing an ape learn how to use a tool. Mm-hmm. Like you're like pathetic. That's glorious
I know it is it is but it's like no, you're still well, I suppose. Yeah, I suppose it's something that is really really
uh
unsophisticated
learning how to use language in such a way as to
Uh masquerade as something that is researched
But at the same time the national review isn't making millions of dollars selling disaster supplies
So maybe it's alex who knows how to use a tool. That's a good point. I'm not sure maybe it's the national review
That's dumb. Yeah, but anyway, uh, I have this next clip
They're catering to a smaller and smaller uh part of the g.o.p. Which is people who think they care about being smart
Yeah, uh, so this next clip I have uh, and I'm including as a technicality. This is just uh, every time this comes up
We must point it out. Also was oregon a false flag like new town. Uh, oh
Uh, uh, I wait wait wait. Dan. What was in oregon?
Oregon was that shooting that happened like a couple weeks back from where we are in the timeline
Oh, yeah, uh, and new town was sandy hook. Oh, was it that alex claims. Was it also a false flag?
Uh, no, no, it wasn't. No, it wasn't a false flag. Nope. Ah, but alex jones, uh, denies that he ever said that
He just had debates, but it seems like every time it comes up
Was it a false flag like new town suggests?
it
Uh, being a false flag is still up in the air
Right. Whereas new town being a false flag concrete is decided. Yes. That's called
Dumb. Exactly. So the other thing, uh, the reason that he brings that up as a speculation
Is because we are about to meet steve pacenic
Steve pacenic is a guest on this episode. No, dr
Steve pacenic
No, and what I learned is that uh, he's actually been coming on the show for a very long time
But he has not been on in a while and it's clear that he's come on because he needs alex jones to get on board with a narrative
And he needs to do it quick. Okay. Uh, he does not have time to fuck around and try and coach alex behind the scenes
He has to come on the show and reveal some information and get it on and pray that alex gets on board because otherwise
Uh, whatever he's working towards isn't going to work out. We're gonna listen to some clips of steve
Uh, he is uh, I will deal with each one along the way
But there's a couple of things that I need to point out ahead of time that are very important for you to listen for as we go along
We talked about this already
Steve pacenic is in psyops
He is a psych warfare guy. So you can trust what he says, right? He's a doctor
He is of psych warfare. Yeah, like dr group
In such a way as you can trust everything that he says
Exactly like dr group steve tells the truth all the time never does he try and manipulate people
In order to sell a certain idea. I think dr group is a little less manipulative
And steve pacenic is way smarter and I think he is deploying psychological warfare
And the one of the reasons that I think that is listen to how many times
Throughout the clips that we're going to be listening to he intentionally flatters alex
And basically tells him that he is one of the reasons that a revolution could be possible
He completely in the same way is this where we get the counter coup. Oh, we're gonna get to it
Oh, we're getting the counter coup now actually not really because the stuff about hillary's emails hasn't fully come out yet
And that is when steve pacenic the counter counter coup
That's when he's going to adjust the narrative that he starts on this episode. Yes
He has some really fucked up things
Okay, uh to say but at the same time listen for the flattery because that is psych warfare
That is manipulating alex exactly how uh, he knows alex is vulnerable, right? No, absolutely
Dan, I feel like you do a great job at curating all of these clips. Fuck you
You got my psych profile way wrong
So in this first clip of steve, uh, we just he admits that he's in psych warfare
Let me repeat that again. I work in intelligent
I ran scyops operation. I work very closely with the bushes. I know roger ailes of fox
So I know exactly what they're trying to cover up and what they're doing
It is not working
Thanks to you alex and thanks to the american public
They're falling apart a lot of what the tax bush is there
The easy it is for me to attack them in the united states to attack jeb and the bush family in total
So, uh, this is the beginning of his narrative and that is that it's all about attacking jeb
Uh, because the bush crime family must pay for committing 9 11
Here's a quick question that I have, uh, especially about
Pachanic, uh, um, what
Or not especially exactly about pachanic. What scyops did he run? It's never really clear
So like he he he was deeply involved in a lot of stuff apparently
Yeah, like he's not like jerome coursey. Do we have any any evidence though?
I don't but I also have not dug too deep into it
Uh, I because we don't want to die before september 9th at 9 p.m. I'm of two minds about it
I think he legit was involved in some stuff
But I also think that he no longer really is yeah because if he know that makes that of course
He's not if he's going on info wars, but I also think that
The stuff that he's gonna end up talking about is horseshit because if he was really doing these things
He would not go on info wars and jeopardize them by blabbing
At the same time though, if you are doing those things info wars is a great place to go on in order to
No, no, you disagree strongly because he's going to describe various scyops that he's engaged in
And I think the scyop is on alex's audience
Right, I don't think the things that he claims are actually the things he's doing
Right the end goal is get alex jones's audience on the side. I want them on which is donald trump
Yeah, are you against jeb bush? Right? Are you giving him?
Too much credit anytime anytime somebody goes on info wars. I feel like they get minus 10 points in credit
Oh, I mean he does in regards to anything. Oh totally. Yeah, he's docked right docked some points
But I think the points I'm docking him are the he's not really doing the things behind the scenes that he claims to be doing
I think he's still playing an incredible strategic game
And you'll see as these clips go on just keep it in your head that the end goal isn't what he says it is
It is to manipulate alex to become a puppet for him
Gotcha or to become a puppet for the consortium
That I believe is behind the scenes right of various interested parties
Perhaps the thing that roger stone has discussed the 45 group the secret organization of trump supporters
That apparently meets and talks about what they need to do. Yeah, but they just kind of hang out right
In roger stones in roger stones summary, uh, we just get together and we're like we love trump, right?
That's pretty much it. Mm-hmm. That's pretty much what they do
Right, but even still
I think that a bunch of dudes getting together and talking about how much of the love trump could have a bunch of guys who
You know, or maybe strategic of uh in nature and they're like, okay
Here's what we each can do with our skill set and it turns out most of it is manipulate alex jones, right?
I I do think that it's so fascinating this dawned on me today
Because roger stone isn't around yet. Yes, but we know he will be eventually
It's fascinating to me that alex jones
Is so stupid that he teams up with a guy who has admitted that he runs psych warfare campaigns
But assures him i'm not doing it to you right and the world's most notorious rat fucker in terms of roger stone
The dirty trick master and a psych warfare guy are the people
alex jones is just a dumb ass who gets tricked by propaganda and screams a lot
Yeah, I can't believe oh, I can't believe when you phrase it that way, but it's fascinating to me that his team are
Legitimate worm tongue dudes. Oh, yeah for sure and he thinks that's totally fine. These are the guys
I'm gonna get a bed with the guys who manipulate everybody. Yeah
I mean at the same time though, it has to be
Intensely
Attractive to be like oh the psych warfare guy is on my team. So
He's obviously working for me, which is exactly how psych warfare fucking works
Especially when you can see it happening on the show. Yeah flattering him like thanks to you
We're able to do this right and it's like he's not even doing that good a job
It's like he's it's like he's just tossing off all of his psych warfare skills and just being like
Hey, you're great now. Say what I want you to say like that's it's so simple
It's not even like he's trying hard
It is if you really look at it and listen to this next clip, uh, because we we should get through some of this
Because we're we're on clip five and we have 300 more to go
No, I just think we're talking too much about steve without actually listening to what he's saying good point
And I stand behind the things I'm saying I just don't want you to get to uh, you know
I don't want you to get any depth into this without knowing what the water looks like. Gotcha
Uh, which is a pretty good down home. That is a great little that's a larry nickel. That's a great little colloquial
Yeah, that's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now. I don't want you to turn into a duck for it's time
So in this next clip, uh, steve pechenek takes credit for donald trump basically existing in the public sphere
Okay, your take on donald trump your take on carson and where the country is
Thank you very much. The truth of the matter is this is one of the most one of the most phenomenal american revolutions
I have ever seen and the one we were waiting for alex. I thank you and I thank the audience
And I thank the so-called alternative media which really became the mainstream media
The reality is trump had been monitoring this mainstream media for a long time. I knew it. He knew it
Many of us had known that and in fact when we put his name up
For the next presidency he took it and basically ran with it
And this is the true expression of the moral majority
And the fact that we are so tired of the people who committed the crime at 9 11 now once trump gets in my suspicion is
Many of them will be arrested and that's what I think will happen in the long run. I don't know trump personally
I do know his background. I know a lot about his character
Is a man who will do exactly what he said if steve pochennik a psych warfare expert is aware of trump's past
That means he's aware of all of his dirty dealings. He's aware of his
involvement with russia
Financial or otherwise and he knows about all that stuff. What does that tell you and not just that?
What does that tell you not just that the idea that he is saying many of them will be arrested
Like the code to yeah, exactly. Yeah, and if he is if he is but he's also talking about the neocons
It's not just hitler
That's an
You know what you know why that happened because we're going to talk more about hitler
Oh, of course, of course, but no, but but that is such a if if you're not an idiot, you know
None of those people will be arrested, right?
You know that. Yeah, but if you are an alex jones listener
You've got hillary for prison all up in your mind
So if if you think if you think for a second that trump is going to arrest anybody
You're dumb. Well, give him six months. Well, that's that's possible. You might start locking up even even then
I don't I that that seems like well at this point. Nothing is beyond ship moves fast
Yeah, nothing is beyond what could be happening, right? But he is clearly doing that on purpose
And you heard in that clip even him saying I thank you and I thank your audience again flatter. Yeah, exactly
But it's like alex jones. We would not be able to do this without you. You are so important to the team
One of the most phenomenal phenomenal american revolutions that's ever happened
I'm so thrilled even though it's happened so many different times
Even though it's the exact same shit that's happened plenty of times before and he implies that there is a situation where
Him and some other people
Uh nominate people to become president. Yeah, I don't know what that is. He doesn't unpack that globalists or russia
Listen to this or the idea that trump has been monitoring
Anything I think he watches the news trump. I think that's fair trump monitors when people say how great trump is and then that's the end
No, I disagree. I think the argument that he watches the news is probably accurate
Like also long as it's fox and friends. Exactly. That's all you're saying. He's been monitoring fox. Yeah, he's been watching the news
Yeah, so uh, I said that maybe the group that he's talking about is russia
Uh, because of this next clip now, let me get to where the real problem
Not only will we turn around and get rid of these people
But russia in effect watched what we were doing
And putin went from a tactical genius to a chessboard genius and he understood that our military
Could not affect a successful combat mission
And he saw that repeatedly in iraq if ganas dan yemen and sudan
What he did in turn was to inform us basically the intelligence service that he was going in and he told obama
And he was going to sacrifice russian men and women as well as airplanes and advanced technology to do the dirty work that we couldn't do
While we were playing around not knowing what to do and having no strategy whatsoever in syria and iran
I suggested that the russians
Pay the price that they had and return for which they would come back into the fold
And be part of an alliance that would be quite strong and that's exactly what they're doing
I don't condone what basharas I did
But I do know that he was there to protect the christian and one of the issues that came up in your show and I said
Christians were being slaughtered all over the middle east thank you, but then I see I created al-qaeda
Isis and all the other groups that were funded by sordia arabia patar in dubai
Now what happened is we strategically involved iran that has no qualms with the christians the russians who represent christianity
And in fact are cutting our fighting back on all the elements that are involved in syria
Dr. Buchanik stay there riveting stuff and again, you've been a member of the council on farm relations
You do talk to all these people. Buchanik really has been
Doing the things he says he's doing here on air. It's pretty amazing
It's pretty amazing
Kind of I have a
Okay
Would you before you ask this question? Would you classify?
those statements as
wildly pro-putin
Because I would I would absolutely classify them as wildly pro-putin
I would argue that they're as pro-putin as alex jones already is which takes me to my next question. Yes, um
Do these people believe it's a good thing?
That putin has far larger control
Huh over world affairs. That's or are they acting in some sort of naked self-interest?
Are they I suppose the larger question is do they think that they are the good guys?
Or are they psychopaths who are just trying to gain the highest advantage for them personally?
I imagine it's on a case-by-case basis, but I think that probably they think they're doing the right thing
I think that there's probably a moral conviction on some level. I don't think trump has that but I think
I think steve pochanik believes
I don't know if he believes in the globalists, but alex certainly does right. I think that that is
Whether or not it started as a real
Narrative it's definitely deeply entrenched in him. Yeah, and if he believes that the globalists do exist
And russia is the last line of defense against them
I think he does think that siding with them is the right thing to do. Yeah, he's wrong
But I think he he doesn't think that I don't I he's
I think he has it in his head that putin is just gonna free people and then go back about his merry business
Um, you know being lied about in the media or whatever running russia like a great free christian defending country
Which is even more insane like
One of the larger if you only listen to russian propaganda, right?
You don't think that russia is a place that has free speech problems
Because that's not gonna be reported on on uh, you know rt or whatever. Yeah, any of these outlets
I
I like ultimately what we are getting into
Especially especially now
is
How far you can go with owning christianity
Like that's kind of it. What does that mean? I mean, I mean, what does owning mean? I mean the uh, so
trump's largest voting bloc that still supports him despite all
All all of the shit. He's done
is
Right-wing christian conservatives. That's because of the intersection with white identity in russia
The narrative always gets back to the christians are the ones who we should well at least with alex
Like all of this stuff in in the uk in so many different places
It is who owns christianity
And it is almost always turned into a tool of oppressing the very people
Uh, that christ was a big fan of
So so it's a problem. So it's like all of this propaganda
winds up utilizing the same tools that
um
The christians have used to fuck over everybody for thousands of years. Yeah, I don't disagree so so
Whenever whenever you get into somebody like steve pacanik who has
No religion
Regardless of whether or not he claims religion
Any he has no sense of any morality. It doesn't seem like it. You can't you can't possibly have a sense of morality
If you are deliberately misleading a lunatic like alex jones to incite his white nationalist supporters
To vote for a white nationalist
Uh, who is beholden to a white nationalist
Yeah, exactly that has ambitions of creating those uprisings all around the world exactly and finances them
So the idea of having any sense of morality is is beyond beyond reasonable. Yeah, I mean, I agree
I'm sure I'm sure he can believe that he has a sense of morality. I agree
But in any objective sense he is he is immoral. I agree with amoral. I agree with my position and I also agree with yours
I don't know. All right, I can't I can't say I don't I agree that it seems like
Uh, you if you are a rational enough person
You can't possibly do the things that steve pacanik is doing or alex jones is doing
Uh, without the the only bastion you have is ah fuck. I'm an idiot. Yeah, I didn't know
Yeah, or something like that. Yeah, but
I don't know or you lied to yourself or you grew like like growing up in a cult
Uh
Which this is yeah, exactly. There is there is that kind of reinforcing belief wherein
The immoral turns to morality. Mm-hmm and because you're doing it for the cult and then you will sacrifice every
Sense of morality that you have so long as the cult is doing it
I mean doesn't whatever the cult is doing is moral doesn't that go into like crusades and stuff to oh, yeah
It goes all the horribly immoral acts done in the name of christianity of course islam on either side right but like
Yeah, totally. It's a problem of religion. Yeah for sure. Yeah, absolutely. So
So I'm less interested in that. Okay. I'm more interested in the fact. Well, I grew up in a cult
So of course i'm interested in it dan. Look, I don't want to discount your experience, but i'm
I'm fascinated by the idea that steve pacanik shows up takes credit for the idea of trump running for president
It admits that he's involved in psychological warfare comes in with an
Insanely pro-putin position right that putin is smart enough to figure out what's going on and he slipped in
I believe that this is formative in terms of the idea of the secret treaties and stuff like that with the sod and
Yeah, all this. I think that's probably coming from pacanik. I don't
Support what a sod did but I do know he was doing the best thing for everybody involved the christians
Yeah, he's defending christians. Oh the christians. Yeah
sod defending the sod's defending the
If there's one thing I know about a sod. Mm-hmm
It's his unwavering support for christendom. Yeah, he loves it. Yeah, um, so in this next clip
You might think that that's you know, we've already got milked this uh, this teat
And there's not going to be anything else coming out of it. Nope steve pacanik in this clip uh discusses other
political uh presidential uh candidates
Well, hillary's in a very serious problem and once again, I want to thank your audience and you what we did was in fact
To do a scyops on hillary. I would love to
Create bernie sanders to bring them out to
To co-opt her extreme left and then to bring biden in
To co-opt your middle and then to break up and fractionate her system. Wait, what? Yeah
Wait, wait co-opting hillary is co-opting the extreme left
Well, yeah with biden is the middle. Yeah, he's he's he's he's performed a scyop
I don't know how he did it, but he I guess he got bernie to run
I guess so then bernie uh takes the extreme left and biden who didn't run if you don't recall
He'd never entered the race. Nope. Uh the that was a scyop too
In order to get the middle away from hillary clinton leaving her with only a sliver of the pie with with which she won the popular vote
Right. Um, yeah, I'm at I'm at the point now where I genuinely believe the election was not legitimate at all
No, of course not. It was it was stolen by russia. Yeah, like we're we're past we're past the point of skepticism
That's literally what happened russia
Stole the election for donald trump and there's more and more evidence coming out of like actual vote flipping
Yeah, no, they're all that's all that's not necessarily even vote flipping
But removing people right the voter rolls before they were ever allowed to vote all that stuff
That seemed like lunacy even with that hillary still won the popular vote
They're just they're just smart enough to pick the right states. I guess choose your spots. That's where uh, you know
That's where putin went from a genius strategy guy to a chest board. Yeah, yeah a genius tech
Like the tactics versus the any anyways
So the the
Yeah, it is it is very much a kung fu kind of thing where you hit the spots that will take down the monster
Yeah, in this next clip, uh, steve pacanik basically takes credit for everyone running for president
Oh, well that makes sense. He tricked everyone into running. I guarantee that's clearly I kept saying how delusional are they
To have clinton and bush dynasties running in
Knowing nobody wants them. Are you saying good people and intelligence agencies and their own camp?
Camping people suckered them and this has all been a trap because that's what it looks like to me them
They're people like myself and others who've been in scyops operations and we suckered them because
This has been a 14 year operation
It's not something that just came overnight and jeb was so stupid that he literally
reiterated what his brother said and runs felt quoted about pearl harbor
So they were suckered
They've been suckered in for a long time because people like myself and others have monitored them for a long period
They've been warned repeatedly through blogs and despite all of that they went in because they are
And in the business of manipulation of self delusional grandiose
Paranoid people it's not hard to manipulate them. The one who was not
Was poot and he understood very quickly how to move in in a country that had no leadership
No direction on the foreign policy side not on a domestic side on the domestic side
We were extremely effective with lowering the ruble
At the ability to make Russia a weaker economy and to be able to monitor that so there's a lot in that clip
Yeah, um
The i'm really glad you caught that we warned them through blogs. We warned them through blogs, which is fascinating
We warned them through blogs. I don't know what that means. Where else would you get warned? I don't know what that means
I've been closely monitoring
blogs
So I know what i'm talking about. Right. I guess steve pochennec probably has a blog where he posted something
It's like hey, don't fuck around, but something like that. I warned him
Um, I mean, I don't think he's wrong in that these paranoid lunatics who are running for offices are easily manipulated
But it like take that logic to the next step and who's else is a paranoid lunatic? Um
You dan I have been I have been performing a sigh up on you this entire time
I'm actually working for alex jones fine within the end of this investigation
You will be an alex jones supporter. I don't I don't think that'll be true true
I will warn you through blogs dan. I'm liking him less and less
As this goes along, right? I can't imagine the prestige is me being like he's great
The idea that he will ever go up in our estimation is beyond
Fat beyond reason. I mean he has his good points, you know, there's those three or four policy positions
He has that are reasonable, but from where we are now. We're already at those
How does he go up from here? I don't know. I mean you almost got on board with him to take out donald southerland
I didn't say I was getting on board with him. You're southerland. I look all right
I didn't like his choice to be in the hunger games movies. I didn't think they were very good
And I don't think donard's other than should
Should support that spoiler alert guys the hunger games are going to come up at our live show
september 9th
Spoiler at north bar spoiler alert in two years the hunger games will be real
All these spoilers are fantastic
So, uh, steve pacenek has some thoughts about barack obama that are kind of interesting
He doesn't have a great position. He doesn't think highly of him
Do a what?
But also he has an interesting fake backstory for barack obama that
Okay, it's interesting. It's not your run of the mill birth certificate. Shit either. Oh, no, we're getting into weird weird territory
Beyond the system particularly the cia at the time
read him
Forced at him people like a geitner
Peter geitner when timothy said he didn't know and they lied the whole system lied the pritzker's lied who were the
former
allies of al Capone. I mean the whole chicago mob lied
area manual
A manual the whole family lied
So you have a product here that comes out of chicago out of a collusive element
That doesn't have to be paranoid, but he himself is not qualified to be any type of leader
He never had it
He was never capable of it
But they thought having a black young man who had a muslim name would in somehow change
The perception of america. It was a serious mistake
He learned all the technology that we knew from darpa defense advanced research projects
He came into power and didn't really know how to wield it
He then started false flags with new town was an obvious false flag and then we have orgon
We're just having a repetition of new town. I mean you can how many asperger's mothers and kids can be shooting all those people
Even my special forces can't recruit aspergers. So this is really ridiculous
And what you have here is a man who's totally alienated from what's going on
I don't want to give him mental health label because I don't think he deserves it
He has to have an accountability as a man who was not qualified to do what he did
Was not qualified to be president and in fact indicts the democratic party so seriously
That they were stupid enough and I know the people involved some of the liberals and famous congressmen
He thought this was a great idea
Stupid idea because he would eventually fail and he would destroy our country now
Thanks to you and many others
We've been able to turn this tide around
And see what will happen if trump comes in and ben carson comes in now
I will be very serious to your audience
I have warned both candidates through blogs that they are target for assassination
And the reason that is that they both are able to must manipulate emotions very effectively
I would not say that ben carson is able to manipulate emotions. Imagine imagine if the left had
A surhand surhand, you know
Like imagine if
Imagine if the good guys weren't the ones who got assassinated. It was the bad guys instead
I don't know. I don't want to go down this line. I do. No, I this this thing is isn't that wild that clip
Isn't that wild? I mean, I don't want to read litigate like we can read litigate obama's presidency a million times over
We're critical, but if there's one thing that he was
It was a good leader. I would say so like that's like his decision making he was too black for some
He was too black for just about everybody, but he was a good leader like the like
There's so much and I'm again, you can you can blame the triangulation that clinton set up as a precedent
You can blame all of those things like not full
Like not being full-throated progressive like you could blame that for why we lost so many
Governorships and state
Legislatures sure you can blame so much of that
But as far as leading a country goes i'll be god damned if the rest of the world didn't at least look at obama and say
Well, this guy's fucking great. Uh-huh. And uh, I mean except for russia, of course, right?
Who would guess that russia wouldn't be big fans of him?
Yeah, because they keep invading folks and annexing land and obama put
Reasonable sanctions on them. Yeah, I think the same way that hillary would have
continued
Yep, or or well hillary made worse. Yeah, hillary would have gone hillary hated putin. Yeah, or at least putin hated hillary
Right, I imagine it might have been a two-way street. Who knows but at the same time the week
We absolutely can't relitigate hypothetical presence. Right, you know, like what could be happening now
Exactly. I think that this is this is fascinating because
I mean steve pacanik has this backstory
I mean if you were gonna if you were going to go like a lot of people blame obama for losing all of the
state legislatures, um
If you were going to blame anybody I would blame the democratic party. Yeah, the infrastructure because apparently we can't even get
nazis right
Like somehow the center of the democratic party is still like antifa is bad
Like they they still haven't even gotten that the nazis are murdering people and that may be a large
Majority of the country is against nazis. Well, they're on the blaming antifa front
Well, like these people are so fucking stupid if you blame obama for this shit
You're you're insane. You're fucking insane. Well, I think what what is happening more is that history is repeating itself
But we have a slightly fictionalized version of history
So we don't realize that it's repeating in the same. Yeah, that's true
I'm not I'm not rewriting history the same way alex jones loves to
But a lot of people have it in their head that during the civil rights movement everybody was on board with it
And everyone was fighting which is which is bananas because everyone doesn't want to cop to the fact that
It's a very good chance that your grandpa was not on board with it
And it was my dad wasn't on board with it right
But there everyone wants to think nowadays that it's so obvious
It was obvious that martin loser king jr. Was great a majority of people obviously supported martin loser king jr
And the reality is no the reality is no that wasn't true the public perception was that they're agitators and uh terrorists
I can't think of any reason why they're trying to get black rights through and I totally bet the fbi didn't try and force
Martin Luther king jr. To kill himself right i bet that wasn't true at all
But you understand what i'm saying is like the the reality is history is repeating itself
We have fascistic right wing people rising right that have been online
Organizing for years and what have you?
um
But they're coming into the public and there are people who are trying to fight back against it and
Of course the widespread perception whether it's republicans or democrats is that they're a problem too
Yeah, even if you in 20 years from now
god willing
We will beat back this fascism
right
I said god willing at 20 years from now everyone will pretend that they were on antifa seems like a very
broad
Term to i am i am 100 on board with antifa right, but i think there's other fuck anybody's criticisms at this point
Antifa is right 100 of the time that's not what i'm disputing i'm saying there's a lot of other groups too
There's a lot of folks who are on the side of fighting back against this trend
That we're seeing every single one of them 20 years from now
Everyone will pretend that almost everybody was on that side
Yeah, and we will again forget now the only difference almost always a very unpopular group doing the right thing
Yeah, that ends up being demonized and then winning. I think the bigger difference though will be that we've got tape
Now we got tape we got receipts on all of those things like 20 years from now
20 years from now if trevor noah has a career i would be
Furious five years from now if he has a career i'd be here tomorrow if he has a career i'm like he will be comedy's neville chamberland
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, well. No, no, no that would be uh
What's this fuck on the tonight show conan no he went over to be be net and yahoo. No, no, no. Well. Yeah, that's true
Um, no, what's this one? No, no the other the new one. I don't know the fucker. Oh fallon
Fallon. Yeah, yeah, okay. Fallon is the neville chamberlain of our times
Yeah, so let's uh, let's not relitigate all that and let's try and say relitigate as much as steve pechenic flatters alex
Right, right. Do you notice that though every single clip? Of course. I thank you and your audience
It's it's formulaic, but it is hypnotic alex is not going to pick up on the fact that steve is using those terms
And using that strategy intentionally to get under his ego. No, of course
He's going he's trying to keep alex jones' guard down alex will interpret that as
This guy fucking thinks i'm awesome. Well, not just that but he thinks i'm awesome that pootin must be really smart
All these things i've already sort of been flirting with
I must be on the right track with this
Well, and that's the other brilliant thing that he's doing is he's mixing and matching this so he'll have in one sentence
Uh, something that alex hates and in the same sentence something that he hates
Conflating the two together. We must be in alignment. Of course if you hate this thing and I hate this thing
They're in the same sentence. If you hate obama, uh, and uh, sandy hook was fake. Yeah, exactly exactly
Even though alex already believed sandy, right? We're right, but it is one of those things where it that might be more for the audience
Yeah, well, that's true. That less needed. There's less need to get alex jones on board with that sort of bullshit
Um, but steep genic has one more clip before we get out of here and move on to the next day
Get out of october 20th
And I mean this is just a summation of sort of where he's at
Uh, but what was obama talking about when he told putin i'll be able or was vinyed yet?
I believe not even putin i'll be able to do more once i'm reelected. Uh, that was back prior to 2008
Or or excuse me. Uh, the last election 2012. What do you think that was really about dr?
Well
Has never really been our enemy
Yeah, although i've been involved in the the regime change in the soviet union
I made it very clear to all of our officials
That we didn't do anything to take down russia russia has been a formidable ally of ours
It has always worked with us and in fact it has a much more serious problem
Of islamic terrorism because of central asia. Okay, that can't be true. Nope
That's that's the least true thing that's ever been said. It's quite it's quite not true. I mean
Yeah, no, that's I mean we have teamed up from time to time
Yeah, that's definitely true. You know how our how the united states official position has been that russia is our ally the entire time
Totally, you know how that's true totally
You know how eisenhower was like immediately after the end of world war two, you know what we should do
We should align with russia probably exactly
Probably the best we've ever gotten with them is trust but verify
That's sort of been like the best position we've ever had. I don't think so
I mean the most close to friendship
That's that's even then giving the relationship a lot of credit fine
I don't care my fair my bigger thing is that that's what steve believes our closest relationship with russia has been like
Fuck you
All right. Fuck you too. All right, but we're all right. Okay you okay
We fuck each other, but you know a lot of finger guns
So I I think if we want to put a button on october 20th
We have the first appearance in our investigation of steve pechenek. He comes in with a robust narrative of
Uh, Putin is a good guy. He's a very good guy. He's a good guy
He's probably the only good guy on the world stage and I only went fighting the globalist for sure and
As an extension of that I and some other unnamed people have gotten together and got donald trump to run
Yeah, also conflating those two ideas. Yeah, the donald trump is some sort of a savior and uh, I mean steve says as much
It's incredibly fucked up. It's
bafflingly fucked up and
It follows the trend that we're seeing as this investigation goes on that the coupling of
Support of putin and russia is inexorably entwined with support of trump. Yeah, even for alex jones
He nowadays in 2017 pretends that that is not even close to the case. He's not an agent of russia
But as we look back on this we see
Definitive evidence that he loves russia and supports putin even before he supported trump and it's infuriating
So now that's like the thing that you said earlier about hess and the nuremberg trials
That's where I do start to see the difference between inciting war and knowingly committing atrocities
Or a genocide. Yeah is with these guys like with pechenek. What is the difference between?
Him
Effectively supporting putin and then trump and him
Opportunistically supporting trump and then putin. Well, do you see what i'm saying there? Some what like how how conscious
Are so many of these people?
Of their
Complete nutter traitorous behavior towards the united states
Well, no because in the same way that the sovereign citizens pledge allegiance to the constitution or whatever bullshit
But not to the federal government and all that there is a and it goes to alex's understanding of christianity
Right, it's i'm a i'm aligned with christianity. Just not your glitterbug churches
I'm aligned with america. Just not the federal government. It's this weird game that they're playing. It's like i'm not a traitor
I support america, but america has been taken over by globalists
So in order for me to actually be supporting america
I have to support the enemies of america who will take out the globalists, right?
And that's cockamamie, right? That's nonsense. That is the path to treason just like jewel austin
I am a christian, but i'm not gonna help anybody until they say i have to yeah
Well, even then he's asking for donations from those people that he's helping. That was great. That was classic
That's church, baby. Yeah, I know isn't that isn't that such isn't that such like religion is a lie
Like it doesn't get any more obvious then go fuck yourself religion. Well, i'm so thrilled that these jim baker clips keep flying around online
I don't know if you've seen any of these. Uh, well watch one after the show
Okay, but like jim baker, you know, he was an old-time televangelist. Oh, yeah
He went to prison for fraud and shit. Uh, he's back in what have you how is he back?
Well, he's been back for a while selling like, uh
Survival food and he has his own church. It's another scam just like alex
But people have been really clowning on him pretty hard on the internet lately because he has uh
Everyone just go watch those videos. Yeah, but he has live bands
That sing about his survival food. That's so great. It's like it's such it's
Next level like anyone watching this taking it seriously. I don't understand. It's such an obvious fraud
It's just like the spiritualist movements in the early 1900s with like marjo and those fuckers
Who would just go around and have these rallies of 20 000 people?
Which again, we don't we don't talk about at all
No, especially not christians where it would just be lies and scams the whole time. It's like almost every tent revival
Yeah, yeah, that's true
Um anyways watch gravity falls. There's great stuff there
So we move on to the 21st and the 22nd which will there won't be too much
The meat of this episode is really the idea that steve pechenek has shown up. Yeah, uh, but uh on the 21st
The day after steve pechenek a psych warfare expert comes on to alex jones' show
and uh tells him that putin is great and uh has some very pro russia positions
alex jones mentions someone that he will defend quite a bit in the coming months and year uh for the first time ever
france prosecutes political
For criticizing muslims marie lapin faces. You're in prison and more
Fuck me
So he calls her marie lapin which indicates that he doesn't actually know who she is never heard
He is just repeating stuff and being told this is a narrative
You've got to get on board with some got some orders the reason that she was in trouble was because she's a fascist
Well, no that was later
The reason she was in trouble this time and was going to court was she was saying that muslims were occupying parts of france
And the reason that that is in texas. Well, she didn't bring that up
But the reason that that's trouble is that they take occupation very seriously in france
I can't think of any reason because of the occupation. Wait, why why?
Dan why why would they take occupation seriously in france? Well because of that whole vishy thing
I can't understand. Why would they take?
So her argument in court was she was talking uh uncapitalized occupation
Whereas the occupation that happened was capital o occupation and as we all know france is under admiralty law
Absolutely, so if you capitalize something it's a big deal. It's like uh with uh with irish people talking about the troubles
That's a capital t. That's a capital t
So which is my favorite euphemism per
Uh, oh, yeah, you guys remember the troubles. I do like that phrase theology. I enjoy it quite a bit
But the other that's like if israel called it the bummer like come on guys
The oh no
The whoops, uh, so the other thing is that because of history uh being what it is
We now know that marine le pen didn't really get in trouble for that
But she should have been censured and it should have been a big deal
Because you can't make light of that sort of thing
That part of your history in the same way that you couldn't uh in germany call something a holocaust or something like that
I don't know you couldn't do that right without getting in some sort of like hey, hold on
You're trying to conflate things in a very unfair way
Yeah, she was trying to get the soft association in people's minds that these muslims were nazis
Of course, that's what she was doing and it was 100 percent the right thing to do to uh, give her the old
Hey, cut it out. Yeah, but alex jones
Starts defending her on the next episode after steve pechenik comes in and as we all know
Putin was very strongly behind le pen. I can't think of any reason why he was funding her and was bolstering for her
That's so crazy. It's very wild. It's it is
It is hard to argue with pechenik when he says that
Putin is a tactical genius seems great. He's really good at it
Yeah, either that or it's just everybody is so dumb that the least dumb person
Seems like a genius. Do you know what i'm saying? Well, I think also like anybody also when you're cornered a little bit
It's easier to make brilliant strategic moves. Yeah, you have less to lose, right?
Yeah, I mean russia is in the toilet and when you have a long history of very competent secret police
And shit like that. Yeah, you've had years to develop tactics
And and when you are one of those very
competent secret police and when those uh the secret police uh into those countries come from a tradition of not having to worry about
Things being ethical or legal. Uh, I think that you're able to
And I mean you're probably able to best people in strategy because there's things that we can't do
Yeah, Putin has nothing to lose seeing is how he's a secret
what
100 billionaire like the idea that we have a Forbes list of richest men and
Putin isn't number one on that list is pretty insane to me
Well, the thing is like in terms of I mean even think about it another step removed from that logic
There are probably other people who have as much money as him that we don't know about
Oh, yeah, that's probably maybe one or two. Yeah, but uh, and then you take into like
We know that the mercers are billionaires, but they probably have way more money than oh, of course
Almost everybody probably has way more money than uh, we publicly know which is why they should be beheaded
And the french revolution french revolution 2.0
Viva la risa stall. Yeah, no kin, right? So he defends le pen 1784 all over again
Alex supports le pen or at least is saying that she's being unfairly tried
Which is nonsense if you actually understand what the situation is of course, but it's really interesting
That he hold on. Yeah, he says this in support of le pen and that it's crazy and then does this
He immediately I've just paused the clip. I haven't yeah, no edits or anything. Yeah, he then launches into this
I think he's trying to
Castigate political correctness, but on the other end of this clip. I want to explain why that's stupid
so
Welcome to the next level of oppression and that ties into something
We know has been going on here in the united states for a long time if you don't hear the race of a suspect
In a murder or a hit-and-run or a carjacking
If you hear white male, then, you know, it was a white male
But if you don't hear what the suspect looks like
They just say a man robbed a woman at this park
He was driving a blue ford chevy or whatever he was driving. So probably a white guy
Then, you know, it was a quote minority and this is an unspoken rule of political correctness
Again, we're setting the precedent on information management and once you get the media and the police
Lying and concert on one subject then they can segue into every other uh very quickly
I think that there's a lot of similar to what he does
But there's a lot of problems even with just that's like that statement
Because the idea that when you don't hear someone's race in a crime report, you assume it's a minority
Is a function of racism
That's a function of deeply ingrained racism that i can't see how dan
Then and it has to be specifically called out that it's a white person for you to ever think that it's white
Most people won't say radical islamic terrorism, right?
So then the other thing uh, we had this hurricane harvey that most people definitely won't say radical nazi terrorism
Nope, uh, but you you have this every time that there's a hurricane that when there's looting
It's black people and when it's scavenging or something like that. Oh, of course you found food or something like that
That's a white person and when it's fucking every single person over
It's capitalism, right?
So but alex's semantic games that he's playing don't even work the way he's pretendingly do
This idea that there's political correctness that uh, is attacking white people. It's run amok. That's run amok. Damn stupid
There's hundreds of examples all over the place that he's totally wrong run amok systemic
Thing where a black person doing the same thing as a white person is somehow criminal is
Ubiquitous it's all over the place alex believes the same thing like if a white person came up to him and was like
I need money. Can you help me out? That's panhandling if a black person does it. It's a mugging
It's the exact same thing
He does this all the time and then blames pc culture for something that doesn't happen
It's so weird
And that is how he wants to talk about le penne's lawsuit
That's stupid
It infuriates me. I I want to have something to interject but you're you're right on all counts
Yeah, so uh, we get to this next clip uh, and alex
We're getting back to hitler for a minute. How can we get back to hitler?
Why do we always have to go back to how hitler wasn't that bad?
We have two clips about hitler that are weird that they're very weird
All right, and his first one. I I love the news. I'm gonna provide for you on the other
I suppose the only the only thing I have to say about your uh, your
Previous rant is that it is not weird. It is america dan. Yeah, that is
Normal for us. No, but it is it is so not weird for these idiots to use race
It is the most normal thing what it is is wrong. That's not the weird part
What's the weird the weird part is the strategy of rhetoric that he's using because it's so
wrong
Factually and it's so see-through like it it doesn't it doesn't I mean but again that should not be surprised
Yeah, that's but that's not weird because that's effective. Yeah seeing through this kind of shit is something that the uh, the
Right wing is simply incapable of kind of they're just they're just not able to do it
Because of the white fears and uh, yeah christians are under attack narratives. Yeah, absolutely
They will give up anything any any belief they have
So long as white people are fine. Yeah
Even though white people are already fine and have been uh, and they'll even go so far is to defend hitler
Yeah, oh, which uh, listen to this clip. Oh god
France basically invited hitler in as well that is most the government
Stood down and then a week later was put back in power by the nazis
So it's true that the grand leader of the islamic movement in the whole boy
The middle east really at that time
Was a nazi went to germany
Was buddies with hitler encouraged hitler to kill all the jews
and so
merkel came out and said no
Muslims have no part in killing jews
It's all german's fault. I guess modern germans. It's their fault too
So it's all part of this guilt complex
Germany on wednesday said that
Responsibility for the holocaust lay with the germans after is israel's prime minister yet
And y'all who sparked controversy before a visit to berlin by saying a muslim elder
Had convinced hitler to exterminate the jews
And then he goes over
The fact that that went on
There's really not any secret that there is a love affair with the nazis
To this day in many areas the middle east
But the left doesn't care they love teaming up with radical islam because it is anti-western and they're anti-western
And really want to mount
The renaissance and true liberalism on the wall
As a safari trophy. It's bringing up the renaissance. That's not something he's been doing too much
So far in this investigation. We got our 2.0. I don't know. It's not but it's just he doesn't hasn't brought it up too much at this point
So uh these
Narratives are largely he's taking this from things net and yahoo said. Yeah, uh, here's the quote from net and yahoo
Hitler didn't want to exterminate the jews at the time of the meeting between the mufti and the nazi leader
He wanted to expel the jews net and yahoo said in his speech
And haj amin al-husayni went to hitler and said if you expel them, they'll all come to uh to
Palestine continue the prime minister. So what should I do with them hitler asked according to net and yahoo quote
He husayni said burned them
So that is a narrative that comes out of a guy who's running a depart hide state
God damn it where they want to kill all uh, or at least expel all palestinians israel was such a good idea
until
Man it happened. Yeah
So uh interesting, uh, bit hold on hold on interesting follow-up on this
Yeah, uh in a lengthy facebook post on friday net and yahoo said he wished to clarify his remarks
About the connection between mufti haj amin al-husayni and the nazis
He said that he quote did not mean to claim that in his conversation with hitler in november 1941
The mufti convinced him to adopt the final solution the nazis decided that by themselves
So even though he said that it was that he was like facebook
Let me make sure a far lesser number of people will see this
Yes, the prime minister wrote that quote the decision to move from a policy of deporting jews to the final solution
Was made by the nazis and it was not dependent on outside influence. Hmm. So
Alex feel like a guilt complex over committing a genocide is a better thing than not having a
Complex, I mean if you got to choose one like it like look
I it's almost admirable that the german people care
Because america does not care about the many genocides we've committed. That's a lot of people do we have
A genocider on our 20 bill, right?
Like it seems like it would be nice if we had more guilt over that it would be nice if our genocides were recognized
Instead of celebrated, right? That's my position. I know that's controversial
I think your position is reasonable
But I just love the idea that alex jones comes up with a thing and it is immediately shot down by the person who
He's clearly said that thing. He's clearly citing without saying a net and yahoo said this. Yeah, uh, so that's great
Well, it was actually clarence tomats. He uh, it's actually clarence carter. It could have been
So in this next clip
Alex jones was actually chris carter. Uh, it was actually erin carter the party starter
No, that's darin carter the party starter is actually carter page also known as the rooster
um
In this next clip alex jones makes another bogus wild claim about hitler hitler
Of course was going to work to when he took over russia to make an area of southern russia the new israel
That makes sense hitler was also looking like hitler jews to palestine
Which he saw as their homeland and that's why he met with the grand
uh, mootie
Uh, who said no, we don't want them here. Can you just kill them?
And the last few years of world war two
Hitler did actually because i've read the Pulitzer prize winning books on the subject
I mean these are quotes by hitler to go ahead with the final solution
They didn't decide to go with the final solution till hitler started losing
uh at the beginning
of the battle of uh
leningrad
And then the stallingrad
And there was a tank battle south of that city about six months or worse grad the germans started really think they were
Going to lose started building towards that so then it shifted don't shake the jews down and get their money
Through the jewish handlers that hitler was working with
Just go ahead and kill them
And so they went to a policy of killing everybody and of course they were killing a bunch of other groups
It is true that it's wrong and hollywood only focuses on
Jews that were killed. I mean, I think
Great millions of ukrainians killed by the nazis millions of russians. I think millions of polls killed
I think they're just as valuable as jewish people that were killed, but sure you do on the other side of that equation
There's people that defend hitler
Well, i mean hitler was a complete out of control lunatic. I mean just look at him listen to him
I mean look what he did to germany good save
I don't like that it ends with a fake laugh fake laugh
But I mean just in terms of a movie. We've already talked about you know the debunking from netanyahu of that argument
Uh, also the netanyahu didn't debunk it. He walked it back. He debunked owens's claim
Okay, not debunking his own shit. Yeah, he's got other problems
So also the siege of leningrad took place on 8th of september 1941
That's when it began the uh leningrad
Auschwitz was open from 1940
So, oh, yeah, yeah, I believe there was probably a whole bunch of stuff going on before the siege of leningrad
Uh, just my guess. I wish my guess. I just because auschwitz wasn't the only camp
I just don't understand how hitler isn't something we can all agree on
Like isn't that crazy how white people are so obsessed with making hitler not as bad?
Like everybody agrees hitler was bad shame complex
Everybody agrees hitler was bad except for alex who only agrees that under duress
Well, he just agrees that he's crazy. Yeah, like dylan roof. Yeah, exactly. Yeah
Why is it that we can't just all be like genocide is bad?
Why is it that every time somebody's in the midst of trying to commit a genocide? They're like, hey
Hear them out. We don't like hitler
But apartheid is great. Well, I mean, that's the same reason we have this
Like why is why is anyone against people who oppose fascism? Hmm. I don't know. It's the same. It's the same historical
Uh inflation that'd be I wish people weren't so dumb. It'd be nice dan. It'd be nice dan
So jordan solve this problem. I can't no do it, but I can't you're the one who knows a lot about alex jones
I can play you a fun clip. Okay. Uh, here's a fun. That would be nice. Here's a fun clip
I would like a fun clip. This one is nuts. Okay. See the other thing I wanted to say was uh
Our people were I don't know if this is old or redundant, but uh
That the bushes have bought 200 000 acres in paraglades. It's been a couple years ago. Yeah, they have their own port
They have their own military
And it's it's a fact from what I know
No, that's true
That's the facts from what I know and reportedly ken lay staged his death and he's down there
Serious news media has seen him down there. Ken lay just lives there. Ken lay faked his death. Ken lay faked his death
Serious media and lives in paraglades. Serious media. Serious media, is that that? Yeah
Did they did we get warned by blogs? What happened there? It was probably on blogs ken lay faked his death faked his death in prison
Successfully. Yes. Somehow was able to get his fake dead body out of prison. Yeah and get transported to this mythical globalist land
In paraglade the paragway that the the fucking bushes have set up
I don't doubt that the bushes have plots of land various places sure
I bet most rich people have uh getaway spots and what have you because they're monsters. Yeah, I believe that that's obviously true
What's not is that ken lay faked his death. Ah, I don't know dan
I do. I don't know. I kind of do look
Dick chaney can do anything. That's all I'm gonna say right now
I I look I believe that it's possible someone killed ken lay in prison and they made it a suicide
We can only hope. Yeah, that's possible. But the faking your own death and running away to paragway
Not so sure
So on this 21st, if you can kill de angelo in prison and make it look like a suicide
Where's wallace? Where's wallace? Where's wallace? Where's wallace, man? So in the net uh on this episode the 21st
Alex jones also has a interview with the one and only
Ronald paul ron paul comes on
May talk really. Yep. All right
This promises to be fun at least. Uh, it's not it's not it's not great
What's the point of ron paul if it's not fun? Well ron paul just I mean he just talks about actually
In this next clip where we will find out if alex jones supports trump yet
Uh in this conversation with ron paul
Paul actually talks some sense. Okay. He makes a little bit of sense
Uh, but that's the danger of ron paul. Exactly. Is that occasionally it's the it's the same danger with uh with most third party candidates
Like uh, like ross perot like occasionally ross perot talked real good. Yeah, and you're like god damn it
I agree with you ross perot. Yeah, that's and even though you're a fucking lunatic
And that's the danger of steve pechenik too, right when he talks about hating neocons. You're like, yeah hate him too
All right. What what's next? Yeah, and then you're saying the hook is fake. No
No, no, dammit. Fuck dammit man. You had me going and that's what ron paul is able to achieve
But here uh, here is uh, we finally get to find out
If alex jones supports trump does he ron paul liberty report dot com one final question on the election? Obviously i'm supporting
Uh ron paul because I know he's followed the constitution. Uh, he won't flip flop. I like the other candidates
Obviously, I like a lot of what donald trump has to say. It's very populist. It's very
Constitutional in some cases, but he said things about you know loving hillary in the past and being four assault weapons
Man's so I don't really trust him in the final equation, but
What is your view of donald trump?
Overall, do you think he's healthy for the campaign healthy for the debate or do you think he's unhealthy?
Well, if there was an absolute guarantee that the american people wouldn't be sucked in and make him president
You know, it'd be just entertainment and he would and we were looking to like you point out some good things some bad
You could look at the good things and say, you know
He can do things and get away with which many of us never could do
Hey, when you're a celebrity let you get away personality
And uh, he he makes fun of the political process and the republican and democratic party
At the same time, uh, he doesn't get pushed around with the media, but I I think uh, I I think trouble is coming
And uh, he would have to live up to his word. I will take charge
I will get things done. I know what's good. I'm not looking for that to me is exactly the opposite of a libertarian society
I don't want to tell people what to do. I don't want to run the economy
I don't want to tell the world what to do
I want to deliver the liberty back to the individual let the individual
And local people take care of these problems, but I don't think I don't think doll or trump would respond to that as
The conditions break down. I think he he would use the not only the bully pope
But I think he'd be come a very tough bully to take over just the whole situation
He does look ready to get on a big white horse and that is exactly what this country doesn't need
But I think people's support for him shows the backlash against teleprompter
Uh politics and I think that's that's the real issue there
He doesn't support trump. God trump is exactly what the country doesn't need. I'm furious words to live by
From alex jones. That's a quote. That's a direct quote. Trump is exactly what the country doesn't need now alex jones
A couple of things that are fun
Ron paul is totally right in the sense that I would be okay with this if it wasn't yeah, if there is no way
Then yeah, it's hilarious or he can bring up things. We can't bring up much like the jeb
Hey, your brother was on in charge on 9 11 you dick right that sort of stuff
No one else could get away with that. Hey, you're complicit in war crimes. Yeah asshole, right?
I get that you speak spanish, but go fuck yourself right there that that position
Reasonable especially because he's making it clear that I don't think you'd be a good president
He's against the principles of libertarianism, which alex you pretend you fucking support supposedly
Now he's fine with a little tyranny the other thing that as time goes on we need to start looking at
is
Rand paul is clearly who he loves
Rand paul also
Supports russia
Really rand paul was one of the only people who did not vote for
sanctions against russia wait recently yes
So was bernie though right but for different reasons. That's true. That is true
But also there are there were so with that sanctions bill is a frequent guest on rt
Really yes, that's not true. Yes refuse. It's very true
That alone does it's not like damning or anything like that
It doesn't help your case though
Especially when we're starting to realize that all of this does seem to be more about russia than it is about trump
Absolutely that we can get to the point where we have a psych warfare guy that alex jones respects and thinks isn't fucking with him
Come on the show and talk about uh, hey russia's great all this
Yeah, uh, and eventually steve pacenek's argument is going to beat ron paul's argument
Because steve pacenek is all about trump right he is this is our guy
But he also is still saying maybe ben karson will be okay. That's insane nonsense
Yeah, in high as we can see from his housing and urban development position
Well in hindsight the like what they didn't know
That we do is that like it's it's insane the idea that you'd be like those are my two guys
But be that as it may all of this seems to be about russia and his love of well
I think sheriff david clark would be a great president. Well, he also is involved with russia. Yeah. Oh, yeah, isn't that crazy?
Yeah, the uh, isn't it odd the other thing is like
I don't I don't know anymore. I just don't know I just don't know what to do
I just wish it didn't keep happening
Everybody destroying everything
Has ties to russia seem like it it's it's not and it seems like everyone who's being tricked
Is being tricked in the direction russia wants people to be tricked
That seems to be a very common theme or they're clearly bought by the oligarchs like your mitch mcconnell's and your paul ryan
Sure, like it's most likely
I don't we haven't proved it in court. Come on. We haven't proved it in court. Come on seems like it
But who knows either either they're
No, there's no other explanation. They're bought and paid for by oligarchs. Sure or
Uh, they're fucking lunatics or people like julien assange
Are bought by the oligarchs and the people are yeah, but I kind of think julien assange has just lost his mind
he's ideologically uh
Fine with it. I don't even think he I don't think he has anything other than he's just an insane person at this point
It's possible like he's been trapped in one room for a long time. So I don't I don't I don't know
I don't like that's literal
That's
Like it's not one room. They've proven. That's the myth. It's not the point
The point is they've proven that that kind of isolation will make you go insane, right?
So i'm sure assange
It regardless like he's always been a complete and utter piece of shit. Yeah, but i'm sure at some point he had
Shit ain't helping. He had lofty ideals of information should be free and now it's just he's an insane person
Yeah, he's turned supervillain in his uh being ensconced in that building and if you are a megalomaniac
Lunatic, of course, you're gonna join with russia because it's it's the only other place. It's like hey megalomaniac
Megalomania is great
Also, another thing that bares pointing out is in 2017 in the last week on alex jones' show
He's had as a guest
alexander dougan for the second time within a month not good and a guy named charles johnson
Who's ostensibly a journalist?
Is not he is a hack and a russian pimp
He pimps for russia. He pimps for russia. He was recently photographed outside of the equidorean embassy meeting with julien assange
And the other person who is there was dana roerbacher
Not good. Who is the most pro russia senator?
And but he's just basically bought and paid for by russia constantly
Trying to do pitch pro russia positions. It's insane
Even even that fucking real. Yeah
Those are the people who alex jones has as a guest on his show now and it makes sense if you look critically at what he was
Doing in the election. It's not about trump. It never has been about trump. It's about russia. This whole thing is a whole
It's it's a diversion trump trump is a diversion
And that's what i'm learning and that makes this investigation
Really unsatisfying and really scary and it's fucked up and the fact that alex didn't think to scrub the fucking internet
It's crazy didn't even bother because we may be witnessing a conspiracy
Like unfold in public. Yeah in public
That you could just google. Yeah, that's but but so insane
But the reason that how many people do you like there are so many
Hundreds of millions of people in the united states
Who just don't know or don't care to find out? Yeah, like this is this is truly one of the great
uh military maneuvers in in history
Yeah, like to have completely compromised an entire republic system
uh
At at every level and without bloodshed with nothing
Yeah, and to now own it almost entirely is
Incredible and the gambit is brilliant because if you control it great
And if you just so complete crippling chaos also great
And if you lose what more sanctions, yeah, we're already a non economy
Like what do you want from and putin and all the people he relies on to continue his power are
Not really as affected by the sanctions not affected at all
They are to some extent but to the extent that he still has hundreds of billions of dollars
And the oligarchs that make up his circle are all hugely rich
Oh, yeah, all the sanctions are really going to do at this point is trickle down to punish the citizens
Right who are already being punished by him one time
Trickle down economics is true trickle down economics works in the reverse if you are getting fucked
Yes, who it is. Yeah, it always the dick always goes in the bottom. Yeah as uh, I think that might be another Larry Nichols
So we've discovered I think and I I've listened to the next couple episodes the next like week or so and I I think
We're going to see this develop even more but
because
David knight takes over for the next like four days or so. Uh, I want to walk you through
Uh, october night's bullshit. No, october 22nd is the last day for alex jones disappears mysteriously
Okay, and I think what he's doing is having some secretive meetings
I think he's going down and being coached or something like that stief chenic might have set something up
I don't know but it's very weird that you have this introduction of a psych warfare guy
And then you start supporting lapen right then you skip a day and then you disappear on a trip now now
In order to to just ensure that uh, we don't get too far down this rabbit hole, right alex jones does disappear
Uh, he has a lot of vacations
frequently a lot of so
This this is timing wise very suspicious
However, he does leave a lot. So i'm not i'm not willing to jump on board with that thought process. No, that's true. That's true
I that's that's fair. Maybe he just got tired from carrying rush's water for so long speaking of water
Most of the show is a long commercial for the alexa pure water system
That he's going to introduce him to the info or store, which I think is why he stayed another day
I think he would have left because this show is uninspired and boring
There is not much going on all he does is try and retcon the idea that joe biden was going to run for president
Sounds like now it's clear that he's not that news comes out that he's not running for president
Right and alex jones tries to re-owned that or reclaim it by being like that shows how much everyone's afraid of hillary
Right, so it no matter what your narrative is going to fly right so it doesn't matter but
I have three drops
That are just fun from uh, october 23rd or 22nd, excuse me
Uh, that we're just going to run through uh that uh, I just this episode needs to end fun because I think we
Have gotten too serious. I've gotten so very depressed. Yeah, so here you go. Here's the first one
I gotta find a crew member or somebody that's got a pregnant wife
I need I need a pregnant woman as a prop
I need a pregnant woman. I need a pregnant woman. That's a prop
Somebody give me a pregnant woman. Yeah
That's great
No reason to explain why craigslist ad that's uh, that's a continuation of his i'm gonna go knock on people's doors and
Of course do publicity stunts. Yep. I'm gonna bring a pregnant woman and make on the give birth
Of course. Yeah, so that makes sense. Here's the next one energize me. I will take the enemy on empower me
I need the funding. I will attack. That's not pathetic at all
Yeah
Fund me
Yeah, desperate go to knowledge fight.com and click support the show
Yeah fund us. Yeah
Uh, so here's the last one and this is less a quick uh out of context drop
But alex jones possibly wrestling with
What will inevitably be his demise but has not been yet. Okay. We had
Steve pacenekong
And a lot of folks here's Steve pacenek and they don't trust him because of the positions he's been in
I'm not saying you should trust him
But look at what he's told us over the years. It's turned out to basically be true
And he does do manipulative stuff where he was like jeb bush should run
He's a really great leader. I really like him when he's saying george w bush is involved in 9 11 and should you know
Go on trial for treason
And then it turns out he's been at the council on fire and relations advising them to run jeb bush
To set jeb bush up so they could then make it about 9 11
I mean when you're doing it is serious psychological warfare
And he's not doing it to this broadcast. He's here saying america's gonna win. We're gonna take the country back
We're gonna be positive our military is gonna be patriotic and not go along with this
And it's been happening. I'm not saying pacenek
Is even five percent of the whole resistance at that level but what he's saying is true and is being listened to
And this broadcast is a format for that to happen
That's pathetic
That's incredibly sad because he's even saying it on the show
This guy has a manipulator. He's lied to everyone, but he's not doing it to us, right?
You can trust him
We're special because he already says what I already say right and because like he's told us he's not doing it to us
Yeah, he said so. Yeah, you gotta trust him right. I listen to him talk seems honest
I bet nobody else has heard him be honest. Oh
No, I'm sure he's never told anybody else. Uh, hey, I'm not fucking with you. Oh, yeah
So it's it's one of those things where you see
Immediately how con men work
And how you can and how marks work. Yeah, exactly. I like you can
Like I like everybody every single person
imagines that they would never be taken in by a con man for an instant until they do and they are we're all like
I want to believe that I wouldn't be taken in by a con man
Simply because of doing this dumb fucking show
Where it's a no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm just our listeners. I'm just angry
Uh
Where where like our entire deal is skepticism. Yeah, but at the same time you see
People like louis mensch
Show up and you see all these different con men and it doesn't matter what side you're on
Plenty of people can be conned just by being told that what they already think is true
It's it's like, uh, it's like, uh, it's like an astrologist
Well, it's like you were born under this sign and that means that you're a good person and you're like going out
But sometimes you like staying in and you're like, I already know that so you must be telling the truth
Well beyond that too. I think the uh, the connection between louis mensch and alex jones at least in this sense is
their, uh
The line that they feed you that you want to hear also involves inaction
Uh, it that's a good point. It involves like because a lot of louis mensch's narratives have to do with
Hey, there's already sealed indictments and stuff like that. Right. He's already been impeached
All this stuff right that the only real
Functional outcome of that is you thinking oh, it's all taken care of right and to a certain extent alex jones does the same things
It's like we've got these people like steve pechenek who are working it on the inside. It's all a counter coup
It's all happening trump is gonna. I mean, he's not there yet
But he will be there eventually and the only thing he needs to scream and get action about is not
Is not doing anything right except giving him money
Yeah, stay out of the way give me money and we'll take and louis mensch does like take money from people
But at the same time she doesn't she's not as overt as alex
But it could just be nasancy. It could be the beginning of an alex jones like
Uh figure but it probably will never or not on the left on the lie front. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I said that's
That is kind of a really good point that I hadn't thought about it
Um, don't fight but I that's one thing that I hate getting updates from the Mueller investigation
Like you made a good point and it and it kind of
Made me realize why it's like I don't care what Mueller's doing
He's got like a year before anything is gonna fucking happen most likely I get that he's he's fucking subpoenaing people
But until something happens who gives a fuck we have to fight him
Now I can't every way like I think so
Mueller Mueller doesn't impeach him
Mueller doesn't get his evidence in for seven months
That means every fucking DACA recipient is already gone
Well, but that's that that I think not gone but but you know, but here here's where I think the
Dan the centrist comes in a little bit centrist. Uh, I think that can we play in your entrance music? Is that what?
Yes
I think that it's reasonable to be dismissive of these like attention grabbing
Uh new things in Mueller's investigation, but at the same time not be
Discounting the entirety of it the goal. I think is to uh look forward to whatever that investigation finds because I think it's gonna be damning
But it's gonna be so but at the same time not let this
image of some
Deus ex machina that's gonna come down the road that we have no control over
Stop us from taking direct action
Right in terms of the things that are going to be a problem in the immediate right because all that stuff like with DACA
There isn't anything in his investigation that's going to be
Involving that right that takes people calling senators that takes people getting on the street
So you have to do those things and not become complacent with the idea. He's gonna get impeached eventually
Yeah, you have to balance it. He is gonna get impeached eventually
But at the same time willing each time there is something that he tries to but again to mayor has a
4% approval rating in brazil. He is caught on tape
Uh committing a crime by offering bribes. Well, and what happened?
Well, fuck all but here's the thing. We're not brazil and we're not kenya there. There are a lot of
Different countries work different ways. That's true. That's true and hopefully you know
I just don't like the precedents that are being set, but that's not a precedent for our courts
That's a precedent for theirs. That's true. That's true
The idea is I think and I think the lesson that we're all learning in a very
Gorsuch is on the uh, supreme court. So right. Yeah, not a great thing, but I know that's scary
But at the same time I think
Oh boy, yeah, that is a bad. That's a bad. It's a bad thing, isn't it?
Hey, how did it work when we had five conservative supreme court justices in 2000 dan?
How did that go down? Not great. Did it go down? Well, not great. No, but
I don't know what I was gonna say. Oh, yeah, sorry
Uh, the thing is the lesson that we're learning the very hard way is that our institutions don't save us
And our traditions aren't real unless we make them real
Right and so the things that are being pushed that are against our values that are against american
principles it is
behooping us to
Take action to keep
fighting keep, uh, I don't know I like
I don't even know what you can do. I don't know you can tweak. I think the only stuff we can do this show
We can try the only thing I think about you can do but like
You have to do those things because without them
There's nothing. There's nothing right. There's nothing standing in the way right of just complete demolition of
Of america. Well, not all of america, but all all of the well all of non-white america all of the games
But even then they're they're destroying what yeah, all of the games that we've made uh towards building a better society
Yeah, uh sense, uh the times of uh,
Upton Sinclair
Like all of the stuff that we like we don't want to return to that hellscape. Yeah, and if we don't act we will
And I have at the same time Mueller's investigation probably will turn up some uh dark shit. Oh, it's already turned up dark
So there we go. I imagine that it's a balance
I imagine that a certain point somebody in Mueller's
Investigation like one of the lower level people is going to catch wind that nothing is going to happen and be like
I know all the real shit
I gotta do this and then he's gonna take this into my own hands and then he's gonna go on alex jones
And just start fucking people up. Maybe let's hope
I don't know, but we'll see what happens. I don't know dan. Will we see what happens?
Who knows will we live long enough to see what happens? We will live long enough to be at north bar
This saturday guys
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We're not
Oh boy
Feral audio does a makeup podcast, but they would never have anything to do with us. Yeah
Too long too dumb too long
But uh, anyway, you guys you guys know anybody at feral
Let them know that we are shitting on them
Not for real. Uh, no, wait, what? I wasn't shitting on him. I doubt you might be
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I apologize. There's probably some emails I haven't responded to right. Hey, here's a question, dan
What's up if you were on facebook
But let's say you were a guy with a long crazy beard
And fake teeth who had never hung up a picture in his life. Sure, right and you were also, uh, but you'd like knew
Some knowledge fight listeners
What would knowledge fight listeners comment onto one of your posts dude? I bet he does have a facebook
Oh, shit. I bet he does have a facebook guys. Let's all find john rapaport on facebook
Knowledge fight commenters call to action
What should we say? No
I know that's the bit but
Fuck you. John rapaport is too mean to just send like I don't want our listeners
Just directly insulting him like that. That's true. We're not that kind of people. Are we even though we say
We want it. We want to be those but I don't want our listeners to harass a man. No, that seems bad. I would rather them post
loaded questions
I don't know maybe insulting questions about his various medical frauds his, um
I don't know. You know what for making us grapple with this issue. Yeah, I just want to say go fuck yourself john rapaport
Andy and kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
So alexa my first name color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you