Knowledge Fight - #800: April 24, 2023

Episode Date: April 26, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan celebrate their 800th episode by discussing Alex's response to the news that Tucker Carlson got fired by Fox News.  Alex weaves a few yarns about the situation, interviews a sex... offender, and Dan and Jordan go over a rare "retraction" Alex made a while back.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge to fight. Dan and George, Knowledge Fight. Need money. Andy & Kansas. Stop it. Andy & Kansas. Andy & Kansas.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Just trying to pray. Andy & Kansas you're on the Earth, thanks for holding. I'm a huge fan, I love your words. Knowledge fight. No, no, no. Knowledgefight.com. I love you. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're
Starting point is 00:01:02 a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today, Jordan, is I have lived a number of years on this earth. I've had a number of birthdays. Sure. 38 or 39, depending on where you, you know, is your birthday, your birthday. Interesting. Interesting. Do you get, do you get a birthday celebration for the year zero conversation? No, I'm saying is there a party for you for your birthday? The day you're born is the day of your birth, a birthday. I think some people would consider that a party. Hmm. And I think most people would
Starting point is 00:01:40 rightly consider it a nightmarish bloody mess of screaming and I feel like when I was one day old, I didn't get any presents. That's true. I don't remember. Maybe I did. It's possible. I guess I didn't have anything to begin with. So any clothes or a crib or anything could be construed as a present. True. So maybe I did. Regardless, let's move on. I've had a number of birthdays and I feel like none have ever been as eventful as this one. So Tucker Carlson gets fired down a little bit later in the day. Don Lemon gets fired. Sure. Set him out of here. James Corden gets the act. Get him the fuck out of here. I just, I had to take a nap in the middle of the day. I don't know what's going on. I don't know
Starting point is 00:02:20 if I'm next or is this something that I'm doing is my power exuding into the year five years. Finally, you've discovered your power to get a host's fire. Well, and in 2002, April 24th, that was the first day that Steve Pachanik showed up on Alex's show. It's true. I mean, these are disparate straws. Very, very, very different. You know, it's a temporal lay lines. Sure. Energy time putting out into the universe. I don't know. I mean, statistically, I feel like two coincidences out of a total of between 38 or 39 birthdays. That's a regular amount of coincidences, but it's it's it. Look, it's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's more than I bargained for in terms of a birthday. You know, like I didn't really
Starting point is 00:03:10 ask for anything. True. I didn't get really any gifts per se. Mine was a complete dud. Well, it was an offer. Yeah. It was appreciated. I did my best. But you know, I got, I got all this stuff. I got all these things. I even not many people get Tucker Carlson fired on their birthday. I've taken out Tucker. You tell her both. Both Tucker. Stelter. Fuck it. Alex has a billion dollar judgment. We are putting not just on the bed post, baby. So it's your right spot. My bright spot is Dan. I hesitate to do this because it's it's very boring, but my bright spot is show. Hey, Otani. Sure. I mean, God damn, this is a miracle that we get to share the earth with this man. Sure. A miracle. Right. A miracle. Oh my
Starting point is 00:04:04 God. He's just great. He's just nonstop. Great. Okay. I don't even know how you can do more than what he's doing, but now he's lowering his ERA striking out more people. He's realized. Here's what he's realized. And this is what's genius. All right. So he throws a hundred mile an hour fastball. That's really fast. That's quite fast, but it's straight. Okay. Okay. If you throw a hundred mile an hour fastball straight, then a really good hitter or even a good major league hitter can still hit it pretty solid. Sure. Right. It's just a timing thing. It's just a timing thing. Now most fastballs though exist within the 92 to 95 mile an hour range. Now imagine that you threw a slider at 92 to 95 miles an hour.
Starting point is 00:04:45 All of a sudden you've got to pitch as fast as the fastest everybody else's fastball that moves all over the place. Yeah. So he's killing people now. Okay. Not touching him. Wake me up when he's got a hundred mile an hour knuckleball. He's got a 92 mile an hour splitter and that's really fucking close. Do you know what you have to do? You have to hold the ball between your two. It's crazy. It's difficult. Yeah. Your fingers are split. They're split. Yeah. It's a split finger. Yeah. I still would love to see a knuckleball. I don't, I don't actually know any. I just know two words. Yeah. I understand what that mean. I know that knuckleballs are generally slower. Right. Oh well. A knuckleball you hold like literally like this and the way
Starting point is 00:05:24 you throw it. It doesn't spin the thing doesn't spin. So the way that the wind hits it makes it jump up and down randomly. Right. As it's going forward. Yeah. It's absolute chaos. You can't control it. And I don't know if Shohei could using his incredibly large burly strong arms that I want to wrap around me in a hug. I don't know if he could move those slow enough to throw a knuckleball honestly. Well it sounds like he's not that great. It does sound like that. I was I was expecting it would be some like specific thing that had happened as opposed to just how great he is. I mean here's the thing. All right. You can't you cannot do what he does. Did you have this realization like during a game
Starting point is 00:06:06 or something that you're watching. I mean I've been I've been watching. I think I've watched every game he's pitched. I have not been able to turn away from it because in the past few years when he's only been the greatest baseball player that ever lived right. It was great to watch. It was always great. And now it's slightly more great. I don't know if that's I know that's not a bright spot to a lot of people but if you're the greatest and you get slightly more great that's also great. It is. I'm not I know I'm not selling this well. No but I'm not impugning your bright spot. I think it's totally fine. I'm just confused by it in terms of like I guess it's just you're reflecting on how great he is.
Starting point is 00:06:48 It's just I mean you're enjoying the reflection on his greatness. I'm telling you that it's hard to believe that somebody can be that great. Yeah. Well believe it. Yeah I will do my best. So Jordan today we have an episode to get into and it has to do with my birthday and Tucker Carlson getting fired. Yeah I imagine so. So we're talking about April 24th 2023 the day of the cabas on Tucker the great colleague and it happened before Alex was on air and so that's really some of the good news because we can get Alex's take on it. I mean you will be covering the the events and we'll get down to business on that and something that should be disqualifying on his part. There we go. And we'll do that too. But before we do let's
Starting point is 00:07:33 say hello to some new wonks. That's a great idea. So first my dad became a bircher and all he got was this lousy policy wonk. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next a man from the one known universe in which Alex's neck is not freakishly large. Please note that this is not a small or even normal sized. Such universes remain undisclosed undiscovered at this time. Thank you so much you are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next Finland doesn't exist. So where the hell am I? Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next the committee to get down on doughboys
Starting point is 00:08:08 buddy. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And we are a technocrat in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to Logan Adams. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow actually. I'm just gonna take a little breaky now. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back. And I'm gonna start the show over. But I'm the devil. I gotta be taken out of here. Fuck you. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day. Fuck you in your new world order. And fuck the horse you rode in on. And all your shit. Maybe today should be my last broadcast. Maybe I'll just be gone a month.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow. And you never see me again. That's really what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. I'll be better tomorrow. No never. But we may have had a final broadcast of Tucker. Yes. At least on Fox News. That's what it's. That's what we're being told. And he was unaware of it. Came off guard. Alex. Not that surprised. Interesting. But the firing of Tucker Carlson is a canary in the coal mine. Of course. And Alex would have reached out to him for comment. He definitely would have. He would have. But there was a small problem. Oh no. We had some technical difficulties.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Oh no. I told populist Christian conservatives and people that just want to live a good safety life that you better understand we're in a war. That you better understand they're going for broke. One of the biggest canaries in the coal mine was the number one news host in the world. Tucker Carlson fired from Fox today. I talked to Tucker quite frequently but two days ago my phone got wet and I hadn't backed it up and I haven't had time to go to the store so I've been without a phone. It's kind of a great way to get it fixed right now. I'm unable to talk to Tucker. I've got his number but I've not called him yet because I just learned this news about 25 minutes ago. Yeah. It would have gotten a comment
Starting point is 00:10:29 but my phone is all right. So yeah. It's going to get in the way again. It can't get a call talking on a phone. I was not expecting my phone is wet. Yeah. I was pretty shocked too. That is about as updated a my dog ate my homework as I think you can get right. Sure. I mean look I would perfectly accept from Alex like hey you know he's busy. Yeah. It's we only had the announcement of this like 20 minutes half an hour ago or so there's a lot of things that probably he's fielding right now. I'm sure he's blowing up. It would be really difficult to get a hold of him. Of course. Have an excuse like my phone and my phone's wet. He would talk to me. Listen. He would put aside every text message he is getting
Starting point is 00:11:14 right now. I'm sure his phone has thousands of them. I have no doubt that he would get rid of all of those drop everything and jump on to infowars but frankly my phone's wet phones wet. I can't say ask somebody else to text him. No. If you put his number into your phone your phone gets soaked. It's soaked. Yeah. Nobody can get a hold of Tucker. It's like that ring back tones. You know when you call somebody right but with water right. Yeah that sounds that sounds right. So Tucker going off the air is a big deal because it will have ripple effects for all the Patriots and and what have you. Yeah. And it's important to recognize that Alex's show is right on that knife's edge too. It could go away at
Starting point is 00:11:56 any time and you got to keep them in the game and the reason you got to keep them in the game is because there's very serious things going on. OK. Now this next clip is disgusting. It involves Alex talking about crimes against children and sucks but I do I am going to play this for a reason and it may become clear towards the end of this episode. Why. OK. So here is one of the big headlines Alex has for the day. Now I told you a couple weeks ago we can be taken off the air at any time. The globalists are making their move. You saw him take James O'Keefe down. Now he's still fighting back. But ladies and gentlemen New World Order is making its moves right now and you need to not take this show for granted
Starting point is 00:12:44 or take any of your freedoms are granted because the globalists are systematically cutting off the power getting rid of the borders. I just had a lengthy 45 minute discussion this morning with senior people in the federal government. I'll leave it at that. I mean extremely senior and they have been trying to get the story out obviously on Fox and they have the documents of Biden releasing over 20,000 known pedophiles. I mean hardcore child rapists. I mean people that have been convicted of being school bus drivers and for disabled children and raping eight of them nine of them. And I'm just sitting there for 45 minutes that I had to go in this meeting hearing all this the documents and I'm sitting there talking
Starting point is 00:13:47 to feds from different agencies. Feds from different agencies now. Now we've got multiple agencies. All over the country people are coming up to young 10, 11, 12 year old girls in Walmart and Target parking lots and a woman will walk over and go, hey honey, but they're wearing a glove with fentanyl on them and putting it on their arm and then the girl passes out. Then they put them in a van and they disappear. Just not how it works. It came out. Then they got something from the Rug Mavericks games. A whole bunch of kids got kidnapped at those and just disappeared. They tried them in Oklahoma City being gang raped in a hotel room and that's the ones they found. This is all going on at scales just completely off the charts.
Starting point is 00:14:36 So that's all awful. Yeah. I don't know what Alex's definition of like senior people in the federal government is, but I don't think that we have the same sense of what that is. Yeah, I would agree. This entire story that Alex is telling is a load of shit and it really makes a mockery of pretending to care about crimes against children. There's a reality of that problem and that's something that's discussed by serious adults who care about addressing the issue. What Alex is doing is exploiting the intense feelings that people have around child abuse and using that to power his own conspiracy bullshit. Consider this. In that clip, the problem isn't really the children are being abused. No, the abuse
Starting point is 00:15:13 of children is a prop that's meant to give power to the larger problem, which is Biden, who's supposedly releasing all of these hard hardened sex criminals. Right. Right. Right. The issue is that if Biden weren't doing something, your kids would be safe. It's not about what the, you know, it could be anything. He's not really cared about the end result problem as much as he is. He's using that. So there is an actual single case that came out that Alex is talking about where a 15 year old girl was lured away from a Dallas, Dallas Mavericks game on April 8th, 2022 and found being trafficked at a hotel in Oklahoma City 10 days later. It's an unthinkable horror that girl went through and the people responsible
Starting point is 00:15:54 have been arrested and hopefully see the full extent of the law's punishments. Alex is taking her actual experience and exploiting it by generalizing it into a narrative that's happening on this giant scale at Mavericks games. And you know, he's, he's, he's ballooning it out from a single example, which is what he does. That's really inappropriate and it illustrates pretty clearly his disrespect for the victims in crimes like this. Trafficking is real, but Alex's approach to this does nothing to solve the problem. It's only designed to blame his chosen target for the existence of the problem and to direct the audience's negative emotions onto that chosen target. The fentanyl thing is something that's popped
Starting point is 00:16:33 up on social media memes over the past year or so in different forms, but there's no evidence that that's happening. In September of last year, there was a viral post about claims that people were handing out roses laced with fentanyl to try to incapacitate people to be trafficked. Sure. Experts who have weighed on all this have said that this method of incapacitating someone would be very impractical. The difference in dose between knocking your target out and killing them would be very small. So you would probably end up killing a bunch of people accidentally before you got it right. Isn't the, isn't the surface absorption of fentanyl, isn't that a cop myth that they
Starting point is 00:17:07 lie to people about to pretend that they don't do drugs? I'm not sure. I think that there is some effect that putting fentanyl on your skin can have. But the rose one was about like inhaling. Yeah. No, the rose one. This goes like similar paths. Right. You know, there is this, this like people are sneakily trying to put fentanyl in people. No, no. I mean, it's razor blades in your, in your candy. 100%. It's, it's, it's any kind of thing where a parent will be like, that's definitely happening because people out there are crazy. Right. And it's exploiting the thing that is logical, which is concern for your child.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah. And it's taking that and weaponizing it in a certain direction that you want, want to use. And I think it's abhorrent. And yeah, I generally don't like to play clips where Alex talks like that for the most part, because I find it repulsive. Yeah. But like I said, there is a reason that will come full circle at the end of this. And if you don't understand when we get there, I'll be very surprised. Okay. I'm, I'm, I, there's one thing that is so, so disgusting that I think is, is easy because to, to like gloss over, because Alex does it all the time, but he is taking that woman's story. Right. He's stealing it from her. He is lessening it's, it's impact because
Starting point is 00:18:27 it didn't, it wasn't a thing that happened to her. It's just a thing that happens. You know, he's stealing every part of this from her and then throwing it away once he's done with it. Well, you know, there are similarities to that thing with the caller who had ovarian cancer on our last episode, you know, that way of recontextualizing someone else's story to make it part of your story. They become a prop within your story as opposed to a person in and of themselves who experienced a thing. Totally. And yeah, that is, that is tough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:59 But he doesn't care because people are props to him. He just doesn't care. Yeah. People aren't real. Nope. So Tucker got fired. Yay. O'Keeffe got fired. Yay. And then AOC went on a podcast. Oh, no. Tucker Carlson fired at Fox as Rupert Murdoch makes changes. Isn't that interesting? Isn't that special? Project Veritas and a coup against James O'Keeffe, the systems battling with everything they've got to try to take us off air right now. And AOC went on Jim Socky show Friday. All the political operatives are together and read the talking point. We need the federal government to ban conservatives off of television.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Don Don Don. So Tucker was almost certainly fired because of issues relating to the Dominion lawsuit and the other other potential litigation that's coming. And it probably had something to do with the fact that he was the type of cat to not really play ball. He felt like he was so important to their ratings that there really wasn't anything that Fox could do to reel him in other than fire him. Yeah, you know, like you do. He's not the kind of person who you give any op. Like he wouldn't give you an option to be like, all right, let's let's real. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, it's all or nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:11 He's not taking notes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's also the issue of two lawsuits against Tucker that have been filed by his former senior booking producer, Abby Grossberg. Grossberg accused Tucker show and Fox of sexism and workplace harassment. Tucker senior executive producer Justin Wells is also a name defended in that suit. And he was also fired by Fox along with Tucker. Yeah, I get the sense that this will be a story that will come out more. You know, we'll get to the clear picture on this in the future. But as far as I can tell that this is a business decision by Fox to protect themselves from further harm, much like when they fired Bill O'Reilly consequences for shitty actions. Yeah. And the same could
Starting point is 00:20:47 be said for James O'Keefe. He's been pulling his bullshit pretending to be journalism for like a decade now and no one cares. So long. Most people just ignore his dumb publicity stunts and he's essentially a political non variable. However, the project Veritas board didn't appreciate that he was spending ridiculous amounts of money on personal stuff like quote, $14,000 on a charter flight to meet someone to fix his boat under the guise of meeting with a donor or how he spent quote more than $150,000 on private cars in an 18 month span. They directly called it misappropriation of their finances and a lot of his stunts have the potential to leave Veritas open to legal exposure as it did in 2022 when the organization
Starting point is 00:21:26 was successfully sued for $120,000 for violating wiretapping laws in one of their stings. Exactly. James O'Keefe is a piece of shit and his actions are a liability for the organization that he founded now that it's grown into something that involves more than publicity stunts to feed his ego and he got bit by his own snake. It's what happens. Yeah. I mean, I feel like what we're seeing is the obvious reason that you don't have a boss, which is that Alex inexplicably still has a job. Well, not really. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, yes, I understand. I would call it a job, but nobody, nobody at Info Wars can fire him because he's a liability to the company. Yes. Yes. Otherwise it would have happened longer. Oh, forever ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:10 But he's kind of got the same situation as those dudes go at like consequences. Totally. Totally. No one's trying to ruin his life. He's just facing the piling up of consequences for shitty actions he's made and he can't bear the prospect of admitting that. So it has to be someone else's fault. Has to be the result of a giant global conspiracy out to get him and people like him who have the same beliefs. Yep. Maybe this would be a good time for him to sit back and consider how the people he claims have the same political beliefs as him seem to all be people who are operating their businesses in super scammy ways that are often illegal. Maybe he doesn't actually have a political community as much
Starting point is 00:22:43 as he has a collection of con men who are invested in protecting each other's scams because they're somewhat interdependent. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah. AOC didn't say the conservatives should not be allowed on TV. She said that quote, we have real issues with what's permissible on air and we saw that with January 6th and we saw that in the lead up to January 6th and how we navigate questions, not just freedom of speech, but also accountability for incitement of violence. That's the role we have to explore through law as well. She went on to say quote, I believe that when it comes to broadcast television like Fox News, these are subject to federal law and regulation in terms of what's allowed
Starting point is 00:23:20 on air and what isn't. And when you look at what Tucker Carlson and some of these other folks on Fox do, it's very, very clearly incitement of violence very clearly. And that's the line that I think we have to be willing to contend with. This was reported in right wing media as AOC saying that they needed to make new laws and regulation to not let Tucker do the shit he does, but that's not accurate. So you're just saying those regulations already exist and we just need to acknowledge reality for what it is and take this shit seriously, which of course would be a threat to most of them. Right. Right. Right. So once she said acknowledge reality, the, the right wing went, nah, don't be doing that. I'm on the
Starting point is 00:23:55 wrong side of reality and I do not get along well. So Alex has some theories about, uh, Tucker's firing. Sure. And here's where he's at initially. He's too good. Wow. I mean, that's just taken as well. Okay, I got you. But here's the specific thought. All right. Okay. And when I saw a week and a half ago, the two-part series, Elon Musk, I said, let me tell you something. You can say Elon Musk has been bad in the past. I'm not saying he's our savior. I'm saying you don't get up there and say AI is taken over and the globalist want to get rid of humans. We need to have more children and the Democratic party has weaponized and controls the AI system that Musk and others designed that they're taking
Starting point is 00:24:38 over and that they're a tyranny and that the government illegally was spying on people and their private DMs at Twitter. You don't say that and be an operative of the globalist. You say that if they brainwashed one of his daughters to become a boy and if two of his family members almost died from a shot and you decide to go against the globalist. Now, maybe he thinks he'll beat them. He'll become not the king of Mars, but the king of Earth. I don't know. But I know when you see something at that level, they come after you because I've experienced it. No, you haven't. But yeah. So his theory initially here is that he did that interview with Elon Musk and it was too dangerous. Right. And so the system
Starting point is 00:25:21 said, no, no, no, no, no. Right. Tucker's got to go. I feel like Alex is weirdly fine with Elon Musk trying to become king of the earth. Hey, it's just a maybe situation. I feel like anybody, anybody who wants to become king of the earth, you say, no, that's you. You're the last person who should become king of the earth. Let me take your thought one step further. All right. I even think you should have the response of someone wanted to be the king of Mars. No, that's negotiable. I don't know who's going to be king. What fiefdoms are we going to be handing out on Mars? The only way that someone could be king of Mars is if it's a preexisting thing that there's already a king of Mars. No, no,
Starting point is 00:26:03 no, no. Absolutely. I build my palace on a limp and spawns. I have got this. I am king of Mars. You're, you're right. You, you're right. Alex is fine. He loves monarchy. Yeah, it does seem to be weird. So look, here's the thing. Yeah, you got to understand. Sure. Tuckers and Tucker are very good friends. They are so close. They're so close. They're best best friends. Well, I mean, the phones way in 2015, we had 10 million viewers today conservative listeners. Nope. By 2016, some days we had 30, 40 million viewers. Every day we had 25 million bigger than Rush Limbaugh. And I experienced the CIA. It's all come out in Congress literally run all these programs against me. Nope. So when I tell you, Hey,
Starting point is 00:26:48 Tucker's for real. He's for real. I know he's for real. And I've, I'm friends with him. We hung out, you know, in Florida for Thanksgiving last year. I'm not going to get into, you know, stuff that goes on, but, but, but we talk a lot. We're friends and he's been here to visit things like that. He's been here to visit things like that. He's been in the world, went down to the creek with my daughter and was flashing around and playing in that little too wet. And then these things are not waterproof. Right. There was some crack in it. So it quit working. Shattery. I haven't had a phone. So I haven't
Starting point is 00:27:23 been able to call Tucker. Plus I just learned to this 30 minutes ago, but they're fixing my phone right now at the AT&T store. So as soon as I get it on the call, Tucker and Rob do has his number to call us, but I'm sure he's overwhelmed right now. But Tucker got offered by the Republican party to sell out and he would have been president of the United States in 2024. They're like, he got the deal. Work with us. You'll be president. And Tucker said, I'm not going to be in New York or DC and I'm going to be in Florida or Maine and I am never going to be in the power structure and I hate you and I'll never serve you. Alex shows
Starting point is 00:28:04 us right. So if I understand correctly, Tucker's sign off of his blowing off of the, all the power in the world includes, by the way, hashtag Alex Jones is right. Yes. I hate you. I'll be in Maine. I hate you. Alex Jones was right. Oh God. All right. Just, I just pathetic. Just living in that brain. It's gotta be fun. It's gotta be fun. It's gotta be nuts. So look, um, Alex has, uh, you know, some other ideas about why Tucker got fired. It could be anything. Yeah. Maybe it's because he wanted to have Alex on. Could be. Maybe. Could be. And I haven't talked to him yet, but there's a good chance that
Starting point is 00:28:50 he said, I'm going to put whatever the story or fire me and they said, you're fired because I know they can start baseball on some previous things that went on, but I'm not going to talk about it until I've talked to Tucker and see if it's okay with him. Talk about it now, buddy. But I figured now. I mean, I know he came very close to quitting about a month ago or giving him an ultimatum. Seems like inside baseball. Because his contract says he can interview anybody he wants. Seems real inside. He took a massive pay cut. Contract specifics. When we're talking a fraction of what they were offering, have freedom on a show and they've not been giving him that on places like having
Starting point is 00:29:35 Alex Jones on or going on Alex Jones's show. And I encouraged him to just continue to do whatever good he could there. But I think when it comes out, we're going to learn unless he had a sudden on disclosure that he said, no, I'm going to do whatever the interview was he wanted to do. And they said, no, sure. I have a good idea of what that is because I happen to be talking to high level federal officials today on who's phone on zoom. It was the weirdos from earlier. I know agents that don't exist. All the lieutenants Colonel sure that he has for sources. Indeed. Yeah, man. Maybe users like fucking I'm going to have Alex on there like you're fired. You're fired. You are fired even though your contract
Starting point is 00:30:26 says you can tucker. Is this the hill you're going to die on? Are you going to die on the Alex Jones Hill? Hey, if he's going to sign off his speech to the globalist, I am not going to be your president. Alex Jones was right. Yes. Then of course you would lose his Fox show because they won't let him have obviously or more importantly, let him go on Alex's show. Yeah. That's the most important thing that they had to get rid of him for. Yeah. Because now that he's not on Fox, he's double can't go on Alex's show. Alex is like right now. You've got to be thinking like his if I can get come on the show, come on the show, come on the show, come on the show, come on the show, come on the show, come on
Starting point is 00:31:05 the show, come on the show. He's getting full court blitzed. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder what he would do as his first interview. Tucker. Yeah. I figure he starts his own thing. He don't think he's going to come out and talk about it first. No, I don't think so. Like Rogan. No, it'd be smart for him to make his own thing. I think it would be smart for him to make his own thing, but I think he could also go on Rogan or something like that. Sure. Get a lot of mileage out of it. Sure. I mean, yeah, he could go on Rogan, but God, that would suck. It would. Everyone would hate that. It would. That would suck. I can't imagine what the other like right call for him to be, do an interview would be because
Starting point is 00:31:44 like a lot of these other right wing outlets, it would be kind of slumming it for him. Well, I mean, 45 minutes after he was fired, I thought Don Lemon would be a great place to go. And all of a sudden that went that fell through. Oh no. No, I think he'll be on Corden later on tonight. Oh shit. God damn it. So we got all these ideas about why Tucker got all of them about Alex. And then Alex during a commercial break learns that Don Lemon was also fine. All right. Now he has to rewrite the entire nerve. All right. Now I'm sure of what's going on. Oh, yes. Now that Don Lemon's involved. I made some phone calls, but now it's confirmed because I've learned how the new world operates because I've been on the receiving end of
Starting point is 00:32:29 their operations. They're doing a purge at Fox, a purge at CNN, not a purge MSNBC of what they call extreme left and extreme right to make us all a friendly nice nation where you're not allowed to question election fraud. We're not allowed to question open borders. But you also can't be mean and say bad things about conservatives. You see AOC saying we got to lower the temperature and call for there not to be violence like Tucker Carlson's doing. Wait, now that's peace. But they're framing us with violence. So now this just in Don Lemon fired at Fox. Don Lemon says he was fired from CNN. Excuse me. Tucker fired from Fox. Don Lemon fired from CNN. I was informed this morning by my agent. I stunned
Starting point is 00:33:18 after 17 years at CNN. I would have thought that someone in management would have had the decency to tell me directly at no time was I ever given an indication that I would not be able to continue to do the work. I love the network. It is clear that there are some larger issues at play. That said, I want to thank my colleagues and the many teams I've worked with for an incredible run. They are the most challenging journalists in the business and I wish them all the best journalists. Journalists. What's happening? Well, I was already going to talk about this. But now this broke. I'm sure of it. Okay. So he saw this one coming a mile away. Yeah. And I gotta say no no endurance and impressions. There
Starting point is 00:33:58 was no he was unable to keep that character constant. I find that said for for someone who was in the running for world's greatest voiceover actor before Obama came along and ruined his career, I feel like he can't he can't stay in character. No, no. And I mean me me me me it wasn't it's not a great voice. No, but if you commit, you can sometimes pull it back. Right. You know, you can pull it back if you commit hard. Yeah. Yeah. People respect the commitment. It makes me wonder how many takes he has to do to get those fentanyl the Chinese dragon videos together. Just doing that right that fourth grade level racist Chinese voice. All right, Alex, you lost it again. We got to sing the song from
Starting point is 00:34:40 the beginning. You know, the problem with this song is that aren't any clear edit points that we can cut it together. Alex. So when it was just Tucker, the idea that he was targeted because he wouldn't play ball with Fox was a good conspiracy narrative. However, now Alex has learned that Don Lemon got fired the same day and his worldview does not allow for coincidences. So he has to figure out a way to make them connected and thus the networks, but weirdly not MSNBC are firing the extreme left and extreme right. So everyone's nicer just like AOC demanded makes but why wouldn't it be Rachel Maddow then? No, she's the person who complains about way more. Yeah, but it's Don Lemon. Okay, because Don Lemon's Don
Starting point is 00:35:17 Lemon. Okay. I guess AOC has magical powers where her stray words and interviews become the policy of multimillion dollar corporations. Seems like a waste to use that power this way. But here we are. Also fun for Alex to accidentally admit that Tucker is an extreme right wing figure. This needs that this need for everything to be connected is a very interesting dynamic because if you really pay attention, it's a selective game. Yeah. For example, James Gordon show went away on Monday too. So is Alex going to feel the need to connect that to his larger conspiracy narrative that he's constructing? Probably not because it's inconvenient and it's too hard to make that fit and make sense. That's just a random
Starting point is 00:35:54 thing that happened. But Don Lemon's termination. That's related. For what it's worth. There's been speculation that lemon's termination has to do with some sexist comments and behavior, including recently saying on air that Nikki Haley was quote not in her prime variety covered what appears to be a bit of a pattern behind the scenes and an article they published on April 5th, which could go a long way toward explaining what feels kind of like an abrupt termination, but maybe isn't. Yeah. We just aren't privy to some of that information. Yeah. You know, I keep thinking, you know, I after after Alex Mockingly read his statement, there is a part of me that's like, I've seen the best journalists get laid off on mass
Starting point is 00:36:35 for the past six months in every newsroom. Buzzfeed news is now completely gone. All those people, all their jobs just completely gone away. And yet somehow Don Lemon is still out here being like, well, I thought they would have the decency to come to my like fucking what are we doing here? Well, it's because, you know, like, it's because he thinks he's it's because he thinks he's better than everybody. Well, maybe not better. I don't know. Maybe not. But like there's a celebrity to it. Exactly. You know, like, and that's that's what we were talking about before we started recording even was like about there's this weirdness of this relationship that you have with news readers as characters kind
Starting point is 00:37:10 of and it seems it seems messed up. And I think that that's the reason that Alex is covering these and not talking about like the journalists that are being fired in newsrooms and stuff. They're not characters. No, it's not drama to Alex that has any real juice. There, you know, these people are it's it's like a gossipy pop culture stuff more than it is anything to do with news. Totally. Like, I mean, if you were going to put a conspiracy together, you would start with Buzzfeed news going completely away, followed by okay, so now we've got a now we've got an entire publication going down all of a sudden now we're getting famous anchors going down all of a sudden what's going to happen next, you know, like
Starting point is 00:37:55 they're coming for all news for saying something or other, you know, like it's there it's there. But it's it's just too lazy. You know, then you peek behind the curtain. Who is it? Reanimated Walter Cronkite. Damn it. Take everyone else. It's Cronkite payback. It's Futurama's Cronkite and a jar. Working with Edward R. Burrowed out of the ground. He's alive. I knew you were going with borough and I was waiting to see where you're going to land that plane and sir smooth landing. That was that was a selling burger if anything. So I'm going to skip this night school because I was just saying again that like they had to get rid of lemon to talk her by. So anyway, we're screwed. But by we I mean Alex and his buddies
Starting point is 00:38:44 gotcha. We are literally screwed. Okay. And you think the left cares there. They're demonic. They love feces and needles and that's running around and you love it. No. So they've got Royors headline is a whitewash. They're ending all the gas powered vehicles now with the emissions rule. It's impossible to follow it. They've lived they've listed carbon dioxide as a deadly gas. You'll see. You'll see. And again, the left loves having no money. They love needles and piles of feces and garbage everywhere. You ask why because they hate humanity. They don't want you to have a nice house. A swimming pool. And to see you go to church and happy kids. They're going to chop your children's genitals off. They like making you miserable.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Why do psychotics like to kidnap women and children and torture them in dungeons? You're like why the hell would you want to do that? Well, you're not a psychotic killer. Because you see when you watch Disney and Anheuser-Busch and Nike commit financial suicide by promoting pedophilia and mutilation of children, you say why are they doing that? Because these are just weapons systems owned by the big banks. Oh, they're not. They're also not. They're not doing that. No. And I think they're fine as businesses. Nope. I'm confused. You know, it's it's one of those things that he talks about. He throws out there all the time. You know, but it is like they don't want you to have a nice house with a nice pool and
Starting point is 00:40:35 all that stuff. And it's like, I mean, honestly, I kind of don't, you know, like you're wasting a lot of water. What you're talking about with psychotics going and attacking you, you have to realize by consuming so fucking much you are passively doing to any number of people. Well, I think it's entirely possible to have a nice home and even have a pool in responsible ways. You know, there are ways to make that less costly in terms of pollution or resource gobbling. Let's have a conversation about that. Sure. And I don't think I don't think that people on, uh, let's say the left are like, no, you can't have a nice home in the way that Alex characterizes it. Like everyone has to live in coffin apartments. Yeah. Like
Starting point is 00:41:18 I don't think that anyone actually feels that way. No, if they do, it's a very, very, very tiny minority and they are politically unviable and not really, not really relevant. I tried to start a political party based entirely around the idea of covering the earth's surface with shipping containers and all of us living in a underground, you know, thing. Only person in the party, only person, just me. I also have my own one person party. Oh yeah. Yeah. And that was, I was walking around Chicago and I noticed there's that strip of, of soil and trees between the sidewalk and the street. Yes, of course. And I was thinking to myself, why isn't that full of potatoes? That's a good question. Why are we growing potatoes
Starting point is 00:42:01 on all of these? Uh, sorry, sir. You have now got two members of your political party. Let's play potatoes. I'm down for potato planting. And I mean, look, we can branch out to other things eventually, maybe so tomatoes or wheat or something. I don't know. I don't know. That's going to add in all kinds of infighting. Then people are going to be like, Oh, I prefer tomatoes to potatoes. We don't want to do that. Single issue party. Here we go. Okay. Let me out. All right. We're already arguing in our political party. East West streets, potatoes, North South, uh, streets, tomatoes. I think that's a good compromise. We're on a grid. That's why we have to make all cities grids. Yeah. No more river towns. Where were
Starting point is 00:42:43 we? Don't remember. I am loving this potato idea. So Alex, Alex is like, wow, we're all fucked. We're all screwed. Yes. We're literally screwed. And I think it's kind of just to lead in cause Alex is mad that people won't give him money. They don't want you to have resources. They want control with their money. And so all the middle class and all the new variation, all the wealthy people that aren't globalist, don't get organized and don't dedicate their time and energy to fighting tyranny or they try to hide and keep themselves safe. And that's why you're going to lose everything. Keeping safe with a criminal takeover ensures you get destroyed. Yeah. Maybe you get eaten a little bit later. Where are your instincts?
Starting point is 00:43:30 But it is the common people that are the ones that donate and give and share and spread the word. But it's all the folks that live in the country clubs that think they're safe and that think that they're isolated from everything else who are going to wish to your dying minute. You'd have done more when you had a damn chance. Get me the Alexander Schultz and Eastern quote printed for the next hour of how we burn the camp. I don't want just the one paragraph. It's about three, four paragraphs. The full quote. Great. Out of the gulag archipelago. Oh, later how we burned in the camps. So angry at ourselves that when the NKVD came to round us up and take us away one family at a time at night, we would
Starting point is 00:44:15 have made a stand. But see with Stalin's NKVD, they just never come into gravity because you're not a communist or we don't like you. Here it's over coming to get you because your phone said you got a virus. Oh, a contact tracing system said or oh, and a check point rapidly. And we had to disappear to a camp and yeah, you died in the camp, but that's okay. It's to keep us safe. It's all primed and ready. Did that happen at all? I don't I so so I so if I understand correctly, all of a sudden, unlike Stalin, it's going to be like, oh, your phone's got a virus. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's like contact tracing for like, you know, you got you probably got COVID. Oh, take you to a camp. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Well, it's 2023. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what how he expects that to have any purchase. Yeah, because I I don't know a whole lot of people who had any real interaction with those like automated contact tracing things on phones. Yeah, I don't think so. No, I certainly no one got picked up and taken to a camp. No, I don't I don't know if anybody really is tired of this stuff. Maybe you should rework this material. This is like a stand up with with an act that's outdated. Yeah. Yeah. But also, I would I would say that that's the only soul to needs and quote that Alex knows. Yeah, I don't think he's read the gulag archipelago. I think he just knows that quote because it encourages violence or
Starting point is 00:45:56 at least Alex's eyes it does. Oh boy. Yeah, but these rich fucks won't give him money. I I appreciate that it's it's been a long time since I've heard that the newvo reach need to come together and unionize to support the common people. Right. That's interesting. But not even the common people. Alex specifically. Alex is the avatar of the common man. Right. He goes down and there will be nobody. No common people fight the globalists. There will only be the newvo wait. No, that's up. Okay. I'm thinking of a fantasy novel about Alex like being right. Okay. Like a world where there's this real idiot who lies all the time and is a complete dramatic embarrassment on the air and it hurts people constantly
Starting point is 00:46:43 and doesn't give a fuck about it. Right. But then like he gets off the air and it turns out he was the only thing that was stopping the globalists from taking over the world. Right. Right. Right. It makes for a fun like sci-fi kind of make maybe a novel but right. I mean here's the but the twist has to be not for any of the things that he said on air like all of the things he said on air remain untrue. However, he is picked up because he is the the linchpin in some fashion. They need his blood for something something like that. Yeah. Totally. Like a complete just random coincidence that he can't process because it's a random coincidence. Yes. Arthurian blood. Exactly. It has to be a conspiracy
Starting point is 00:47:23 but it's actually a coincidence. But because of the coincidence it becomes a conspiracy. Yeah. It's the one conspiracy he didn't know. Exactly. Yes. The one about him. The conspiracy to plant potatoes all over Chicago. Now we're cooking. It's going to be a good one. So Alex finds the the gulag archipelago quote. Sure. We read it now. Alexander Seltzenation and how we burned in the camps later thinking what would things have been like if every security operative when he went out at night to make an arrest had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family or of during periods of mass arrest. As for example in Leningrad when they arrested a quarter of the entire city people
Starting point is 00:48:09 are not simply sat there in their layers hauling with terror at every bang on the downstairs door at every step on the staircase but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes hammers pokers and whatever else they had in hand because they didn't have guns. The organs would have very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers in transport and not withstanding all of Stalin's thirst. The cursed machine would have ground to a halt if if we didn't love freedom enough and even more. We had no awareness of the real situation. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward. They're going to murder you and
Starting point is 00:49:08 your family. They're going to rip your children's teeth out while they rape them with pliers right in front of you. Wow. They did. I mean this is the end of America. This is the take over. This is the new world order. It's already lawless. It's already gone to hell. This is a takeover and you can sit there and play games all day long. Stalin just wanted totally obedient slaves for his industrial revolution for global domination. He's willing to kill 40 million people to do it. The new world order is worse than Stalin. It wants to kill you in a very orderly fashion. Like Stalin. I say again ladies and gentlemen what are you going to do to promote this show? What are you going to do to try to save this broadcast
Starting point is 00:49:55 and share it once you go to Japan? It's pathetic. That is unreal. That is unreal. I've talked about this a number of times before. Like the only concrete solution Alex ever really provides to anything is self-promoting or not even self-promoting. It's promoting him. You doing the promoting. You become a street team for Alex. You give him money. You buy his shit. These are the only concrete solutions that he has to any product. Like them tearing your children's teeth out in a gulag. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well why don't you promote my show more? Oh how we burned in the camps because we didn't post links to Bandod video enough. Go fuck yourself. Yeah. You know it is a little bit on the ironic side to say oh they're coming
Starting point is 00:50:39 to kill you and enslave you and that's why I want you to work for free. Yeah. Yeah. But it does lead Alex to get pretty fucking mad. Yeah that's true. He's getting real hot. I get it. I get it. I mean he lost his best friend on it. Oh totally. So he starts screaming about everyone needs to repost his shit. Sure. We know millions today we see the numbers and I say please go get this Gregory's report. Please go get this report about the UN legalizing pedophilia or trying to and Washington state saying they're going to take children from parents and forcefully sterilize them. Please get the report out and I beg and it gets you know 400,000 views. No. Because you know you don't really want to promote it on Facebook
Starting point is 00:51:23 or Twitter. You might get restricted. That's how it's challenged. It's a little embarrassing. I mean I want to share that link. Well then you take what we report. Okay. I'm not up here saying all this wild stuff to sound shocking. You think I want to take all these psychotics for no reason? You think I got a damn death wish? I have the opposite of a death wish. Going along with this is a fricking nihilistic death wish. This is survival you're seeing. This is resistance you're seeing. This is not some heroic exercise. It's confirmed in the last two years in the Texas sector alone they've given hundreds of thousands of children over to sex traffickers and traffickers and they've let loose at least 20,000 hardcore
Starting point is 00:52:20 convicted pedophiles. So all of you that work for the system that don't stand up against this and allow the system standing up. Just remember you're just as guilty as the criminals. So that's all. I need your support. You need my support. We're in this together. And I'd like to see an indicator of your support. Support us at infoworkstore.com. But regardless, share the articles. That's amazing. What an abusive cult leader. That's about as an abusive cult leader as you can possibly get. I am God's chosen representative to save you on this earth and you are not giving me enough money. You need me. And the use of the emotion is so fucking manipulative. Totally. It's just an abusive thing. But you might have noticed
Starting point is 00:53:18 there's a little bit that was cut out there. Yeah, I did notice. Yeah, there's a little edit. I was wondering. So it took me a while, but I was able to find what was cut out. Oh, that's good. Because you know, you don't really want to promote it on Facebook or Twitter. You might get restricted. That's how it's just a little embarrassing. I mean, I want to share that link. Well, then you take what we report there, check it out for yourself and do your own freaking report. Do your own fucking report right now before we're all fucked. See, now that's the voice work that we were looking for. He can do it for one word. He's got that talent for one word. And I would like to suggest to Alex that that
Starting point is 00:54:01 is exactly what we're doing. I'm taking the information that he puts out and I'm making my own reports and they are not coming out well for him. It's not a positive. It's not a positive viewpoint. So congratulations, though. You got exactly what you want. Yeah, it does seem that way, but it feels like he doesn't want it. No. Strange. So Alex has done his emotionally abusive rant. Sure. Goes out to break and he comes back with the scene from network. All right. And here's just a little section of it where Alex is talking over it. Oh my God. He's really playing the scene. Oh my God. Delightful. Yes, you literally have. Yeah. I've told him piss up a rope. Perfect world. There's no war or famine. I've been in boardroom. It's almost like that one. This actually goes on just like that. Why are you still talking?
Starting point is 00:55:02 You know why he's still talking? Because he's trying to convince himself. Yeah. He's telling this bullshit. He's like, yeah, you're such a big boy. Yep. You're so strong and smart. Yeah, it is. It is funny that he's been in those boardrooms. He's talking to a mirror, but because a mirror is so abhorrent, he talks to what he believes is the mirror and that is fiction. Well, or the microphone. Yeah. You know, the audience is the receptive mirror. So he doesn't have to look at himself. Right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, everything he does is very clearly to avoid confronting a real self image. Yep. Because that's a nightmare. Yeah, it's real. That's a disaster. So one of the tricks that he has is bringing in Owen.
Starting point is 00:55:56 And so it turns out a good trick. Turns out Alex wasn't even going to come in today, but then he got fired. So he didn't have a choice. Yeah. Well, the great Owen Schreuer took a well deserved week off and he was back today. And here's what was going on behind the scenes. I have so much business stuff to take care of to keep this show on here. I'm not complaining. It's just I came to producers about 45 minutes for every time and I said, call Owen and tell him, come host the show today. Because I've literally got to go around and deal with stuff running this place. Or we won't be here. And then I called Owen 20 minutes before and he goes, Hey, I'm actually here. We walked over and talked to our set up. He said, yeah, I
Starting point is 00:56:39 just learned about us. And I said, well, why don't you co-host with me in the second hour and a third hour today? And so he is here with us now to give his, his insight. Yeah, something, whatever. Yeah. So, uh, Owen was gonna host, but then Alex realized people are going to be watching my show because Tucker got fired. So there'll be more eyes on this. Maybe I can do this outburst and bring in a little bit of money. Owen's not good enough at this. So, you know, we don't want to waste a good crisis. Don't let a good crisis go away. It's like we're on the manual. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is. That's, that's exactly it. Yep. So they talk a bit about lawsuits. Sure. Cause they know about a lot
Starting point is 00:57:22 of experience now and they talk about the Fox case a little bit here and they sue you with a kept judge and the judge in the, in the Dominion Fox case didn't call it a default but ruled two months before Fox news purposely lied, which they never even did that and Fox news is liable and Fox news. This is the key. Fox news lied. Fox news. Oh, and there was no election fraud and these machines are unhackable. So the judge is already going to tell the jury you're guilty. That's why they settled for that amount. And so they've already got another judge, another group ready to probably be in DC ready to go against news core. And so this lawfare is now holding news core hostage. Well, that's why it's so important for people
Starting point is 00:58:07 to understand how radical and dangerous the American left has become because they're the ones that control this entire court system now and they know it. Sure. Sure. The one that outlawed abortion. Yeah. You take LeBron James and you sit him down next to some, some high school, you know, freshman benchwarmer and, and that benchwarmer says, I'm better. I'm going to beat LeBron James. Well, yeah, he could say, well, okay, I'll go play you. But if he knows every bucket he makes his work negative two points and every bucket the other guy makes is where the hundred points. Well, that's a rigged game. You're not going to win that game. So you could say, well, yeah, I'm going to go to court and I'm going
Starting point is 00:58:40 to take my chances and I'm going to get discovery and I'm going to argue my cases doesn't matter. It's a rigged case. You cannot win it. And so that's why I think people are starting to learn here. And again, they can pick the jurisdiction with their judges. That metaphor is dumb. Yeah. But also, even if you accept the full extent of that metaphor, you cannot lose. You can tie just by playing good defense. Yeah. LeBron James could probably keep that freshman benchwarmer to zero. He's he's done it to professional NBA players. So like he doesn't have to score buckets if they're going to be negative points. No. So you could end up with a zero, zero tie, which is a win. Right. No one one. Yeah. So I guess so it's
Starting point is 00:59:23 a dumb game. Well, sure. But if Alex and Owen exist in this circumstance and they're completely innocent, they could play good defense during their trial and end up coming out with a not billion dollar loss. A tie. Yes. A zero dollar loss. Exactly. You will. So Fox didn't have a default judgment or anything like that. Text messages were found in discovery that very clearly indicated that the people who are making fraudulent claims about Dominion knew that what they were reporting on was false when they reported it, which means that the case for actual malice would be very simple for Dominion to make. Yeah. Fox hadn't lost the case at that point officially, but everyone, including Fox knew that if it went to trial,
Starting point is 01:00:04 they had no chance, which is why they settled. Alex had every opportunity to engage with discovery in his own case, and he chose not to because he also knew that he would lose if the case went to trial. He tried to low ball the Sandy Hook families with settlement offers, which they declined. So he was not given the offer amp that Fox was able to take. Instead, he was forced to drag his heels and try every trick he could to come up with to stall the proceedings and hope to force the families to settle. They did not. And ultimately, Alex's shady behavior earned him a lot of fines in the form of sanctions. And ultimately, when other attempts to get him to participate failed, he was defaulted.
Starting point is 01:00:39 He did it all to himself. He has no one else to blame. And interestingly, during the damages hearing, Alex went on air and made claims about the plaintiffs in the case. When the Texas case was ongoing, Alex talked quite a bit about Scarlett Lewis and Neil Heslin, which was really, really disrespectful. One of the claims he made about Miss Lewis was that she realized that Alex was actually right and that her attorneys had lied to him, lied to her about him, which we can hear in this clip here. Yeah. And I go stand. I said, Scarlett, go to the 40, go to 33 after in my show today on stand. I said, watch it. I said, you're real. I said, your son's real. Whoever gave that to use a liar, she got up and left, came
Starting point is 01:01:24 back an hour later crying and was like, Oh, and she was right. I, I, you know, so, so we broke through that they're being handled and manipulated. He told that story repeatedly because they use these families as pawns. The families come over and shook my hand and hug me and really woke up to the fact that they'd been manipulated and their own lawyers went like they were dogs. Get over here and stop talking to him on video. He even went so far as to bring up this story when he went on a guest as a guest earlier this year on Piers Morgan. And then she went on the stand and said, Jones attacked me and said, I'm an actress. It's all fake today. And I walked over to her during the break and I said, watch
Starting point is 01:02:03 my show from today. Your lawyer's lying to you. And the next day she came up and cried and shook my hand and Scarlett Lewis and said, Oh my God, it's true. I saw you did say that. You may notice in this version of the story, she came up to him crying the next day, whereas the previous telling of it was an hour later after she'd gone and watched Alex's show to find the alleged truth. So weird how the truths keep changing. Yeah, there's a discrepancy here because Alex is just making this story up. One possible reason is because, you know, without some kind of face saving story like this, Alex seems like the piece of shit that he actually is in the case of the trial. He traumatized these grieving parents and then
Starting point is 01:02:38 continued to do so while the trial was happening because it was profitable for him. Sincerely, another possibility is that Alex really is just that delusional. Like reality may not be a fixed construct for him and events exist merely to satisfy story beats that he needs to exist to be there. So he can tell his heroic narrative. Yeah, I don't think that's the case, but it's a possibility. His solipsism may be overwhelming to the point of God knows. I find that if that were the case, he would not be as functional as he is. Right. It seems impossible. Yeah. Yeah. It would come out in many other ways. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever the case, after Alex was on Pierce's show, Scarlett sent him a warning
Starting point is 01:03:15 letter saying that he needed to retract and correct this clear lie about her. You may notice that this never happened on his show and we haven't heard about it. And that's because it's buried in a video he put out on Bandod video and almost nobody has seen. But since I was curious and because I'll take any excuse not to listen to Owen co-hosting, I decided now might be a good time for us to listen to that retraction video as a distraction. Oh boy. I actually found this because I was going through, I was trying, like Alex made all these ridiculous claims about how many views his videos get. Yeah. And so I was going through trying to find the last time he had anything that was over a million views. And
Starting point is 01:03:50 I don't think I could find anything on it. I got bored after a couple months. Damn. The highest things he had were like the yay interview and the, um, the Roseanne, uh, one, but those were like 600 something thousand and 700,000. Wow. So like they weren't even crossing the million. The only things on Bandod video that get like over a million sometimes are Greg Reese's reports. Anyway, so I was, I was scrolling through all of them. I was like, retraction. What is this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so I decided, uh, hey, this is interesting. The first red flag that jumps out immediately is that the video is 14 and a half minutes long. That is too long. There's no reason for that. No reason for that whatsoever. This is not something
Starting point is 01:04:34 that requires a complicated answer. It's a, I said something that wasn't true. It requires a complicated answer. If you want to both retract the statement and also at the same time, try and convince the person who you made that statement about that actually you are correct. Yeah. And that's basically what this is. Yeah. There we go. So Alex begins by reading a statement that his lawyers clearly were like, yeah, don't riff. Oh my God. Stay on track. The following is a clarification correction issued by myself, Alex Jones here on info wars. As many know, I was sued by Ms. Scarlett Lewis concerning certain remarks I had made about the shooting and death of her son at Sandy Hook Elementary School. In
Starting point is 01:05:20 early August of 2022, we were in trial in Austin, Texas on Ms. Lewis claims of defamation she filed against me. During that trial, Ms. Lewis and her ex-husband approached me to talk, which we did. And after a brief conversation, we shook hands. Later, I appeared on Piers Morgan's television show talking about the trial and recounted the brief conversation I had with Ms. Lewis. Recently, I received a letter from Mark Bankston, one of the lawyers for Ms. Scarlett Lewis in the Texas Sandy Hook trial, in which Ms. Lewis lawyer demanded from me a correction clarification or retraction of those few statements I had made in January of 2023 on the Piers Morgan show about the courtroom conversation with Ms. Lewis. And
Starting point is 01:06:05 I'm happy to oblige. So we'll see a few obliges. Yep. Yep. Yep. Now, just for the sake of like full clarification, you know, I'm friendly with Mark. I haven't really talked to him in a while or anything. I don't have any inside information. And I didn't even know this had happened until I scrolled through band.video. So like, I don't have any kind of insight outside of what is here and what I already know about the trial. But oh, and that we were there, I guess. Yeah, we were there. We saw the handshake and we saw Mark be like, this isn't happening. This is not happening. You fucked up monster. Yeah. So Alex continues to read from his lawyer's prepared statement. First, I want the viewing audience to understand
Starting point is 01:06:48 what I said and what Mr. Bankston has demanded of me so that my remarks today will clarify my retraction. I'm going to make it's important to keep in mind that during the trial, I continued to produce my live talk radio show. On the morning of August 2nd, 2022, I made certain comments about the tragic nature of the Sandy Hook shooting where I confirmed that Miss Lewis was real and the shooting was real and the death of her son was real. Miss Lewis, however, was incorrectly told that I had attacked her as an actor in my broadcast and she so testified. Not having actually heard my on air statements from that morning's broadcast, I was called to testify immediately after Miss Lewis and I immediately corrected her misperception.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Later that afternoon at a break, Miss Lewis and her ex-husband walked over to me in the courtroom. Miss Lewis handed me a bottle of water and as I recall, a cough drop. We shook hands and we exchanged cordial words. Attorney Mark Bankston now wants me to retract what I remembered she said to me in that exchange. That's very kind of her considering Alex had a fake torn larynx. Yeah, what she was doing was a radical act of kindness directed towards a monster who had... And now Alex is exploiting that radical act of kindness because that's who he is. And that's, I think, a large reason of why Mark would say this isn't happening is because you have to be aware that Alex is going to exploit this shit. He's going
Starting point is 01:08:21 to take anything he can and turn it into something that works for him. So here is the demand that has been made. All right. Attorney Bankston's demand letter sets out his complaint as follows. Miss Lewis never spoke those words or anything similar to Mr. Jones. True. And Miss Lewis is disturbed that this lie was broadcast to millions of people exposing her to contempt and ridicule. Finally, Attorney Bankston's demand letter concludes with criticism of my recollection of my conversation with Miss Lewis writing to me as follows. And I quote, Mr. Jones has now decided months later to lie about Miss Lewis again by manufacturing a fantasy conversation and spreading it to an audience of millions to a reputational
Starting point is 01:09:05 and emotional detriment. Yeah. Attorney Bankston now demands that I retract my recollection of Miss Lewis's response to me, which I am going to do. But first, let me say. Oh, no. Oh, God. Damn it. For Miss Lewis and her ex-husband. Yeah. I mean, we're four minutes in, right? It's a 14 minute video. We're four minutes in. There's no reason for this to go any longer. Nope. You can just say what you said. There's the demand. I retract the statements that I made. You don't even really need to explain things. I mean, no, you need to go out of your way and not to explain things and accept responsibility for the thing you did. What? But you're not doing that over. No, you don't. Because on this, on this, I'm
Starting point is 01:09:44 retracting my statements. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. I'm retracting them. Simple. It's done. Right here at four. The moment you are talking about a retraction, but first, and then you say but first, you have negated any and all things that you might have or had said up to that point. It makes your intentions murky. And then the other thing too is, I guess, like up to this point, he has also mischaracterized a number of things in terms of the course of events. But you know, I think at this four minute point, you can get away with like just being like, I retract and then it's as good as you're going to get with Alex. But the but first, that's where there's that's where it goes wrong. Yeah. They did suffer the death
Starting point is 01:10:24 of their child and I have repeatedly said this. So my comments upset them. This was the last thing I wanted to do. Now, as to attorney Bankston's demand that I retract my statement, he quotes regarding Miss Lewis's response to me on August 2nd. I have gone back and reviewed the video available of that day's event. And I want to show five relevant clips from these videos. These clips come from August 2nd, 2022. Number one shows Miss Lewis trial testimony. The second video, my response in trial testimony. Third video, my actual morning on air statements for the end of day brief courtroom conversation and handshake I had with Miss Lewis. And finally, number five, my August 3rd, the following
Starting point is 01:11:09 morning, my court testimony about Miss Lewis shaking my hand and how much I appreciated that handshake. This is a huge problem for two main reasons. The first is that Alex absolutely did not care if what he was saying hurts Scarlett Lewis or Neil Heslin. His primary operating principle is to use people like them as a means to an end, not an end in and of themselves. There was a video of him shaking their hands so he knew he could make up a story about that interaction that would be believable enough to his audience based on the fact that the video exists. That's all he cared about. And if he never got a demand for a retraction
Starting point is 01:11:42 that his lawyers insisted he take seriously, Alex would never have even considered how much his words could affect Miss Lewis. They don't exist as actual people with actual feelings to Alex unless he needs to act like they do in order to avoid the consequences of his actions. The second major problem is that he seems to be trying to mount a defense for his claims rather than retract or clarify them. By playing a series of clips, Alex seems to be suggesting that maybe Scarlett is the one lying about their exchange, which really seems like the last thing he should be doing in a retraction.
Starting point is 01:12:12 I feel like I can sue him for defamation for this. Alex's strategy is exactly what he's laid out here, except of course he's still a malicious lying shithead. So he starts by playing the clip of Scarlett's testimony. And so here's a little bit of that. I wanted to tell you to your face because I wanted you to know that I am a mother first and foremost and I know that you're a father and my son existed. You're still on your show today trying to say that I'm implying that I'm an actress, that I'm deep state. You have this week and I don't understand. Truth, truth is so vital.
Starting point is 01:13:02 The section he plays is a little bit longer, but this is the main point that she said that he'd implied that she was an actor or deep state on his show on that day or thereabouts. Then Alex plays a clip of himself on the stand saying that she needed to watch the whole thing. Then he plays what I guess he's presenting as the whole clip from his show, which allegedly Scarlett is responding to. Oh, and I got to say this. I've now met Neil Haslund and his ex-wife. Those people are real once I saw him in person. A lot of anomalies. The government lies so much. I thought Jesse Smollett was a lie. I said it first. Went out on a limb. I was right. Most of the time
Starting point is 01:13:42 I'm right. We saw anomalies. I wasn't the first to bring up the anomalies. Some of the anomalies are going to be a fraud. I've spent days literally seven feet, eight feet away from Haslund because we're sitting right there. They're sitting right there. That guy's real. If my asking questions about public events hurt these people's feelings, I'm sorry. So that isn't really the clip though. No, that she was responding to. There's a longer version of this. I believe we and so many people saw that clip and here's that. Oh, and I got to say this. I've now met Neil Haslund and his ex-wife. Those people are real once I saw him in person. A lot of anomalies. The government lies so much. They have a right
Starting point is 01:14:24 to question things. I thought Jesse Smollett was a lie. I said it first. Went out on a limb. I was right. Most of the time I'm right. We saw anomalies. I wasn't the first to bring up the anomalies. Some of the anomalies are going to be a fraud. I've spent days literally seven feet, eight feet away from Haslund because we're sitting right there. They're sitting right there. That guy's real. And I thought it was an act when I saw some of the stuff on TV just because he came off as so. Yeah. Didn't play this part. Let's just say he's a nice man and it's not an act. He is being manipulated by some very bad people. There we go. I'll just say it because I got to be honest. He's slow. Okay. And his ex-wife
Starting point is 01:15:16 is not. I don't think he's stupid. I'm just saying he's, he's, I've got family members that are really smart in a lot of ways, but they're just real kind of quiet and have this way about them. And, and, and they, they, they move at a different pace. Like they're fast in some ways and slow in others. And he's, I mean, I think Haslund acts like somebody on the spectrum and it makes me feel like an even bigger jerk. But I, when I saw him, I'm like, there's something about this guy. This doesn't look. And now that I've been around him for over a week, I'm like, okay, now I know. Folks, I don't have some calculated point just to bring it out up here. It's just that I'm around these people and I'm looking
Starting point is 01:15:55 at it and I'm watching what's being said and what's going on. And it really then makes it clear what happened. Just in that clip, you can see how Alex has edited out the part where he's saying that Ms. Lewis and Mr. Heslund are being manipulated by evil people, dark forces. He says that Heslund is slow, but Lewis is not, which kind of implies that she wouldn't be as easy to manipulate. Reading the obvious subtext, you might come to the conclusion that she's in on it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Also, not for nothing. Alex wasn't around these people for very long. He barely showed up to the court and most of the time that he was around, he was yelling out in front of the courthouse trying to get media attention. Alex played that clip in his retraction video and cut out the part that was actually offensive to Heslund and Lewis because he doesn't want his audience to have that context in case they stumble onto this retraction video. He's trying to provide a retraction video that he thinks is just barely a retraction, just enough to make it work, while simultaneously it's supposed to reassure the audience that Alex is actually right.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Yep. And if the conclusion is that Alex is right and doesn't really need to have made a retraction, then the audience would reach the very obvious next conclusion, which is that Scarlett is lying about their exchange. Yep. And the continuing terrorizing of these people is recontextualized for the audience as a continuing attack on Alex himself because he is a malicious, abusive cult theater. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:18 I mean, it is... It's comical. It is so much like... The justice system is simply not prepared to handle Alex in a civil manner. If you think that consequences can come in the form of money for him, you're wrong. You're just wrong. Unless you can take that money immediately. Yeah. Well, I mean, yes. But even then, that's not money. That's like taking away his access to... But again, it's
Starting point is 01:17:45 taking away his access to the show. It's taking away his access to his audience. It's taking away his access to the cult. That's the only thing you can do to provide consequences. Yeah. And they're just not doing it. Yeah. The only way that this really, I guess, gets any better is having a situation where there isn't a community of enablers that support Alex in some way. Because he is just malicious and will never stop doing the things that he wants to do that are profitable or that satisfy some kind of an emotional need that he has until there's
Starting point is 01:18:20 no one left to play along. But they probably will never come. Well, and I mean, again, that's like... And I don't know if the legal system has some kind of remedy for that. No, I know. That's... I think it's time. I think it's people in his audience realizing what he's doing. Sure.
Starting point is 01:18:39 But yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's a bummer. I mean, my point is just like the rules and all of this stuff, like you cannot go to the judge and just be like, listen, this doesn't happen. We have 800 fucking episodes of this. When I tell you that you cannot punish Alex this way, I am saying this not from the point of view of somebody who wants punishment or putting aside my desires. This is just the only way. Yeah, just be advised. This isn't going to make a difference. This is nothing. This is meaningless. You have wasted our time.
Starting point is 01:19:13 And if anything, unless done carefully, unless some of these things are done fairly carefully, you run the risk of creating circumstances that Alex can exploit to reinforce his martyrs' status with his audience, which is always... Ensuring that they will never go away. It is always a dangerous possibility. So Alex continues his retraction video by not really retracting stuff, maybe actually making more allegations. Great.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Hopefully, after watching these actual video clips, several matters are clear. First, it shows that the trial testimony of Miss Lewis about her understanding of my on-air statements earlier in the morning of trial was wrong. I told her in the courtroom that I had not attacked her that day, has the video of my actual on-air statements that morning demonstrate. Maybe your understanding is the one that's wrong, Alex. It feels like Alex went to his lawyers and they were like, here's what you need to say to satisfy Mark's letter. And then Alex went, well, I'm going to add some clips and stuff. And they were like,
Starting point is 01:20:16 we're going to add billable hours. Yeah. Could be. Yep. Seems unadvisable. But then again, his lawyers are shitheads, too. That's true. They'll be like, hey, listen, we'll get them this time. Yeah. So he goes on.
Starting point is 01:20:29 These clips show that after my testimony that day in the courtroom, I had a conversation that was initiated by Miss Lewis that ended with Miss Lewis and me shaking hands and her ex-husband and I shaking hands. Unfortunately, the audio I have of the exchange is poor and you cannot hear much of what we're saying. But it seems clear that while we were shaking hands, we were talking. And while they are not all recorded, as the one I just showed, I had several Kordos conversations with Miss Lewis and all of them were polite and civil. To be clear and clarify, oh my God, we've got a clarification on the God damn it.
Starting point is 01:21:06 And her husband. We only caught it on tape one time. And what I said on Piers Morgan was a composite of those discussions. It is the precise words that Miss Lewis and I exchanged before and after our handshake the attorney banks and now objects to and wants me to which I am glad to do. No, no, no. Now, now you've introduced the reality that you do that you did edit the shit out of this. Yes, which means you could have caught out all the clip parts. Well, no, because I think he thinks the clip parts are a good. No, he thinks those are the those are the centerpiece of the retraction video is proof
Starting point is 01:21:42 that he doesn't need to retract anything. Yeah. Yeah, because his argument essentially like he's really bad at communicating this, but his argument essentially is, oh, yeah, you know, there's that part where I said that, you know, Neil Heslund is slow and they're being manipulated by evil people and all this. Yeah, they said that, but she didn't see the part where I said she was real. Right. Right. Yeah. So that was his point in court. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, no, I saw that part. I saw the part I saw, but I'm talking about the other part. That part doesn't. Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't when you say that if you see it in context, you don't understand that the context of the first part is negated
Starting point is 01:22:21 by the second part. No, no, no, no, no, but you got to see the first part. That's the only part. No, no, no, no, that's the problem with the first part is that by saying first, you are implying there is a second part in full context. It's just that little part. I'm struggling to make sense of that, sir. I do like how that audio changed it so drastically and it's like, boy, that's suspicious. Boy, how did someone told you to do that? Howdy. Did you have to do that at your studio? And you know why he did that? It was in order to create more plausible deniability. It's like, Oh yeah, in that conversation, maybe she didn't say it, but there were other ones that weren't recorded. It's a composite. And
Starting point is 01:22:57 just such cowardly because I didn't show those videos. I do have to come in and say that I didn't show those videos. Yeah. So here's the end of this. Okay. I do not wish to harm or damage Ms. Lewis in any way. And if she does not agree with my recollection of her response to me, I will defer to Ms. Lewis recollection of her statements and withdraw and disclaim my recollections of what she said in our conversation. While I am sure of what I told Ms. Lewis, I defer entirely to her recollection of what she said in response. And if she disagrees, then I will withdraw and retract my recollection of her comments. In conclusion, I want to emphasize that I have no ill will, ill feelings, or any malice
Starting point is 01:23:39 towards Ms. Lewis or her ex-husband. I know and understand they have suffered a tragedy with the murder of their son. And I do not wish to cause them any further grief, harm or embarrassment. I once again would like to invite them to come on my show. You mother fucker. To talk about their son's life if they so choose. I am also trying to reach an agreement for another appearance on Piers Morgan Show to let his audience hear this clarification and correction. Mother fucking piece of shit. Absolute trash monster. Absolute shit. That's the end of the video. That is not real. What is happening? He's trying to use it to get rebooked. This is unacceptable. He's trying to use this demand for her attraction
Starting point is 01:24:24 to get on Piers Morgan Show again. It's amazing. I just, I just... Never let a crisis go to waste. I'm blown away. I'm blown away. That should be in front of the judge and he should be putting him in jail. That's jail time shit. It's pretty amazing and just so like how Alex works, the like, maybe I could get back on Piers Morgan. Totally. That's such shithead behavior. But you know, that's what you expect. So this isn't a matter of just misremembering something. This is a case of fabricating a claim about someone for a specific reason. Alex didn't just get a little thing she said wrong. He repeatedly said on air that she'd seen his full video. She realized that he was right and that her lawyers had
Starting point is 01:25:08 been lying to her. Clearly against her will, Alex was turning Scarlett into a character in his fantasy world, specifically a character that acts in ways that are directly against the wishes of Scarlett, the real person. This is a malicious act on Alex's part and he knows it. But his lawyers have scripted up this way for him to claim that it was just a matter of misremembering something that was said and he thinks this is good enough. And I think spiritually it's certainly not. Yeah, no, I find it... It's a parody of a retraction. Yeah, no, a lawyer statement that was clearly written by the lawyer means nothing to me. First off, I just don't care about anybody who reads a statement written for
Starting point is 01:25:45 them by their lawyer. Let's just say we assume that it's by the lawyer. I don't think Alex broke that. But we don't know that for sure. Right. But the problem with Alex and the problem with cult leaders in general, whenever you have them read a lawyer statement is that everybody in the cult is like, oh, the lawyer made you read that statement. You don't actually believe that shit. Right. It's the same way that so many of Alex's audience members are like, I know you're talking about the Jews, but you just aren't saying it because you can't. Because you can't. You know, I know you don't know. I don't know you don't mean what you're saying, but you can't not say this. You can't say the part that we all hear,
Starting point is 01:26:22 you know, and that, yeah, that is the... And the problem with retractions with the cult leader too is that they're infallible. And so it's almost a joke. Yeah, exactly. No, I'll do it. I'll do it because these people are crazy. And in order for us to survive in their society, I'll play along with their dumb retraction rules. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's disrespectful. It's disrespectful to just even consider it. And then to see the execution of it is astonishing. Yeah. I mean, that's a little bit old, but I didn't know it happened. And it just was buried on band.video. And I just thought... For a good reason. I just thought like, well, well, Owen and him were complaining about how lawsuits are unfair.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Let's go ahead and peek in on this. What a load of shit. Amazing. So anyway, the globalist are cutting off the power. Sure. It's like a cheesy Star Trek analogy where Khan blows up the reactor and the Enterprise can't move. I mean, it's that simple. They're... Or the movie Aliens came out in the 1980s, the second one. Name four movies. Great movie. He goes, they just cut the power. The guy starts panicking. What do you mean they cut the power? They're animals. Oh, we're screwed. Game over, man. Game over. They're blowing the generators. What does the Imperial Walkers do in Star Trek's bag? Oh, we got three movies. Target, main generator, maximum firepower. You've taken out the generator, Lord Vader. You may start
Starting point is 01:27:44 your landing. They're taking out the generator. They... But we don't have one generator. We got tens of thousands. They've blown half of them up. They're blowing the generators. They're cutting the power supply. In like a different movie? Wind power at its current rate. That's a supply 5%. They can't even produce it. Roman, I'm ready to go ahead. No, it's an epic rant. Oh, I mean, what's it? What are you talking about? I like that response from, oh, no, it's an epic rant. It's an epic rant. Epic rant, buddy. Wow. Yeah, you're doing good, Alex. That is a genuine worshipping. That is an epic rant, Alex. I felt no passion in the epic rant declaration. Wow. So we have one last clip here, and I told you things
Starting point is 01:28:33 would come full circle with the disgusting stuff at the beginning. Indeed. And here is where that happens. So there's been incredible dirty tricks, incredible disinfo, incredible lies against anybody. Trump's not perfect, but he was against World War III. They got him. Now, they're going up in Tucker. They want to have gone after me. Scott Ritter, famous case, all sorts of made up attacks and lies. None of it was true. This is what happens when intelligence agencies come after you. Scott Ritter is a former Marine intelligence officer who served the former Soviet Union, implementing arms control agreements on the staff of General Norman Schwarzkopf during the Gulf War, where he played a critical role
Starting point is 01:29:07 in the hunt for Iraq's Skud missiles. From 91 to 98, Mr. Ritter served as Chief of the United Nations in Iraq, leading the search for Iraq's prescribed weapons of mass disruption. Mr. Ritter was a vocal critic. The American decision to go to war in Iraq, who was totally vindicated, millions of Iraqis. His new book, disarmament in the time of perestroika arms control, the end of the Soviet Union is his ninth. Scott Ritter, extra.com, warringpiece.fund. Couldn't have a better time to have him on. Oh, man, I wonder what kind of dirty tricks were pulled against Scott Ritter. Maybe I should just Google this real fast. Clickity, clickity, clickity, clickity. Scott Ritter was arrested in 2009 after he was caught
Starting point is 01:29:46 in a child sexual predator sting operation. He solicited nude videos from a person online that he thought was 15 years old. At trial, prosecutors claimed that this was the third time that Ritter had been caught in an underage online sex solicitation sting, which is not surprising. Ritter had sent graphic video to this person that he believed was 15, including him naked and masturbating. In April of 2001, Ritter was caught in a sting where he thought he was talking to a minor online who he made plans to meet at a McDonald's. He arrived at the McDonald's where the police were waiting, but he didn't end up getting any jail time for that or anything. They believed the charges were dropped. Former UN weapons inspectors
Starting point is 01:30:24 get a warning on these kinds of things, I guess. Then in June 2001, a couple months later, he got caught again, this time trying to meet up with a minor at a Burger King. Again, the police were there, and again, he didn't get in any serious trouble. Ritter was convicted in the 2009 case and sentenced to five and a half years in prison. He was paroled early and has been out of jail since 2014, but he is very clearly a habitual predator who has a history of seeking out minors online for sexual exploitation. I mentioned Ritter in one of our 2004 episodes in the context that he'd been a figure saying that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and I failed to bring up this aspect
Starting point is 01:31:02 of his character. It slipped my mind to get into because I wasn't talking about Ritter specifically at the time. It was in the context of narratives about David Kelly, and Ritter was a tertiary figure, and I apologize that I didn't bring that up when his name came up. Now that we have him here on Alex's show, all this is very relevant, and this is what Alex is trying to present are dirty tricks that were played against Ritter. These weren't dirty tricks. They are multiple instances of Ritter attempting to abuse children. Alex pretends that he's a champion and crusader to protect the children, but here he has a convicted sex offender on his show, and all he can do is whitewash his past and his crimes.
Starting point is 01:31:38 And why? Because Ritter is a staunch opponent of Ukraine in the context of the war against Russia. That's his value to Alex, and he's an anti-Ukrain voice with a resume, including a UN's Weapons Inspector. So he's going on infowars. Yeah. Keep that in mind. Anytime you hear Alex scream about all his enemies or pedophiles and how he, you know, wants to ban trans people from any public existence in order to save the children, he's happy to pal around with and defend any child abuser who agrees with him because he's not sincere about this issue. In the recent past, Ritter has been welcomed a little bit into communities that like to brand themselves as like isolationist, but
Starting point is 01:32:16 are really kind of about something else. Crypto Nazis. Yeah. Yeah. He was scheduled to speak at the Rage Against the War Machine rally back in February, which was just a collection of shitheads. Jimmy Dore, Ron Paul, Tulsi Gabbard, Gerald Salenti, Max Blumenthal, Jackson Hinkle, and Sex Pest Scott Ritter. People started pointing out who Ritter was, so he got the boot from that speaking engagement. But apparently Alex has no problem welcoming him with open arms and pretending that he was actually the victim in all of those cases. Yeah. What a piece of shit. So anyway, I don't care what he has to say about how we're about to have a nuclear war. Nope. Which is basically the rest of the episode.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Yeah. I believe that. Yeah. I did listen to it all just in case because I was like, was this going to come up? Right. Right. Right. Is this sure? Are we gonna? Yeah. Seems like something fairly important to bring up in the first part of the episode compared to the last part of the episode. It seems like it's a relevant thing. Yeah. Yeah. No. Doesn't doesn't come up. That makes me so sad. Yeah. It's so sad. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. I really like this is a dark world. Very dark. Why don't we live in the good one? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, look, here's here's the issue though. Yeah. We have this day where it's like Tucker got fired and everybody, you know, it's all fun. But then, you know, it's there's darkness
Starting point is 01:33:34 here. There's it. You just can't. We can't have a clean win. You know, we can't have one of those days. An episode where it's really just Alex gets drunk because Tucker got fired and throws hatchets. Totally. Why can't it be that? Why? It seems like the easiest and the most fun thing to do to celebrate the death of your friend's show. No, he's got to talk to Scott Ritter. God damn it. That sucks. Does. Oh, there's so many different things you could do. Anything you could do anything other than talk to Scott Ritter. I imagine there are other people who could probably say similar things to him. Fucking if it. Yeah, I'll say that there's a nuclear war coming. Take a fucking recording of this
Starting point is 01:34:12 shit. And you know what? Here's the deal. Yeah. I think that it would have been entirely possible for Alex to just have Scott Ritter on and not say that there were a bunch of dirty tricks played against him. Also, also possible. I think that there's a world where Alex could just pretend all of that stuff isn't real. Yeah. Instead, what he's doing is providing cover and denying the crimes of a monster predator. Just just unreal. Yep. But that's to be. I mean, no, no, it is to be expected. I mean, you go back in the history in the 2004 stuff and you see so many of these other like these people who are whether it's a, you know, a child abuser, a murderer, a somebody who is deputized themselves to harass
Starting point is 01:35:00 immigrants, Nazis, be they celebrities, fathers or not. You have all these people that Alex is carrying water for and covering for. It's no different, really. Yeah. It's just his show is so much about calling everybody else child predators. Yeah. And it's just kind of glaring. Yeah. So anyway, this sucks. Yeah. You know, I just want I know it's unreasonable. Right. It's like it's like driving home and wishing for every light to be green on the way home. Sure. Obviously, it's unreasonable, but I would have liked it. This was going pretty well. Yeah. It was going pretty well. There were a lot of there was a there was some stuff at the beginning, but it was going pretty smoothly. And then bam, ooh, just hit
Starting point is 01:35:40 with that big red light. Take the high without the come down. Can't take the rough without the smooth. It's true. Versa. Yeah. Can't drive home without getting stopped by a train. Yep. Yep. So we'll be back and hopefully pleasant. Yeah. Pleasant. Pleasant. Yeah. But until then we have website indeed we do. It's knowledge fight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's that knowledge underscore fight. Yep. We'll be back. But until then I'm Leo. I'm Leo. I'm DC X Clark. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy and chances you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love him.

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