Knowledge Fight - #82: Oct. 27-Nov. 9, 2015

Episode Date: September 11, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the effective end of his investigation into what happened in 2015 to convince Alex Jones to join up with the Trump presidential campaign. Topics covered include: Alex ad...mits on air that he has been in contact with Russian intelligence Roger Stone finally shows up on the show and plays Alex like a fiddle A lot of other stuff, but those two are overwhelming

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes I'd sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. That is what we do it is. Is there a Let me ask you a question. I love Q&A sessions. Okay, Dan. Yes, if you were a bird, what type of bird would you be? I'd probably be like Nellie for Tato. She's like a bird. She'll only fly away I don't think Nellie for Tato is a bird. She's similar to one. All right. Let's try the bid
Starting point is 00:00:40 You would be a bird that knows a lot about Alex Jones you can't say I'm I follow my nose to propaganda truths and I would be like Tricks rabbit the extinct dodo. Okay. That's what I would be. You don't know anything about anything about Alex Jordan today, we are going to be going over a thrilling episode of my investigation into what happened to Alex in 2015 Okay, get him to sign up with the Donald Trump for president campaign Yes, and I legitimately think that all our questions are answered. You think it's done. I think it's done You think we got it. I think we're done. We're there or are you just are you done? I'm done No, I I don't think we're done done
Starting point is 00:01:21 Let's say but I I think all of the questions that I started this investigation with are officially answered Okay, I don't have any more questions about why Alex Jones joined team Trump Putin. Yep. Yeah big part of it Vladimir Putin Wow for those of you who have not been following along to every the last 17 installments Yeah, the the what we thought was going to be maybe two episodes. I thought five of where we last left off Alex Jones was in full support of Putin and Russia mode still not all the way in support of russia Quite I mean no no no not I meant Trump. No, he has not made any real evolution in the past Three or four months in 2015 in terms of saying that he likes what he says, but he doesn't trust him
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah, he doesn't think he can trust him because he's supported hillary in the past He's supported. Uh, well shirt the mob connections thing. Uh, he's supported assault weapons bands in the past Can't have that guns. They're all these things. He's Alex Jones fully supports Vladimir Putin and russia and all of their actions in the world is clearly swayed by russian propaganda and has not yet Supported donald trump, right? So also where we last left off David knight was hosting for about a week. So really the question is like when does rt start supporting trump? That is the question. That's pretty much it and I actually know the answer to that and we've not gotten there yet. Okay
Starting point is 00:02:52 Uh, it's pretty clear The moment that happens all of a sudden alex does no Spoiler alert alex is a little bit ahead of russian state media In the uh, it in as it relates to supporting donald trump, but I don't want to tip my cards too hard All right, uh, because we have uh, our investigation today will be covering the dates of october 27th 2015 to november 9th 2017 or 2015. It's not two years. That would be too much. That's a long investigation and it would involve the future Uh, but before we get into our investigation today in earnest, I'd like to give a shout out to a couple new policy wonks
Starting point is 00:03:34 Oh, shit. What's going on out there? Doug. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much for joining up with the team Thanks, Doug. Also like to give a shout out to maria. What's going on out there? I'm a policy wonk Congratulations to you both on becoming policy wonks very much Very exciting stuff if you would like to become a policy wonk You may do so by going to our website knowledge fight.com clicking the support the show button And uh, you'll be a policy wonk also Before we start and you'll be you actually don't have to donate you just click the button
Starting point is 00:04:05 And it takes a random amount of money away from you. Yeah, just like the pants It's uh, you you just order them and then whatever shows up shows up And we have a patriot anthem that we've written about our support the show button I hate it when jobs go south. I'm looking for a button It won't screw over my family So Knowledge fight buttons guaranteed to not screw over your family. It's not gonna make sense to anyone who hasn't listened to a bunch of this show Um, so also I need to make this announcement. We've been flirting and teasing around the idea of that. There's something big coming
Starting point is 00:04:41 Here's what it is. We are now going to be broadcasting live every night at 8 p.m Central not every night not the weekends Monday through Thursday at least right We will be broadcasting from eight till question mark live on the internet video Audio all of it. You can find our feed at twitch.tv Slash knowledge fight. We are going to be going over current day. Alex Jones Keeping up with what bullshit he's spilling every day. We're gonna try and make this uh, this knowledge fight more robust Take it into the info or war arena Jordan you're staring at me weirdly
Starting point is 00:05:22 What am I supposed to say? You're very excited. So excited. You're very excited. It's it's frightening for years and years I've wanted to do a first of all a live thing. I've wanted to do a radio show And eventually we'll work in the ability to take calls and stuff like that Right, but this like this possibility that we can Get it into that sort of thing as opposed to us sitting around for three hours and then releasing it the next day It really excites me and uh, it's sort of and it's almost like we have to do it because like With the with the 2015 investigation, you know fine. We release it two days later and yeah, it's still the past
Starting point is 00:06:02 Yeah, but when we do a lie or when we do a present day episode you release it the next day and you're like well All of that stuff means nothing anymore. Alex has jumped to a whole nother narrative. Yeah, exactly Or there's another hurricane. Yeah, it's a lot like uh, it's a lot like how the new york times in the washington post are like Trump is great now. Yeah, he's a fucking lunatic. Trump is an independent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I mean, he's still a nazi, but he's an independent nazi But that's also another one of the reasons why I feel very compelled to do this now Because I think we're about to enter a really interesting period Uh that will test alex jones' commitment to donald trump because of the death ceiling situation and people saying that trump is
Starting point is 00:06:42 He's a true independent. He's working with the democrats. I fucking hate people. I hate these people. Our media is fucking worthless It's nonsense. They're worthless But the the um the mind boggling thing is that like I kind of get it because it's like Dude, we have a nazi in the white house. We can't just every day be like guys nazi guys nazi He's a nazi guys nazi. Are you paying attention? He's a nazi focus So they're just trying to get like a different narrative. They're just bored and much like we end up being a lot of the time with alex Yeah, exactly, but that's why we talk about project camelots Right, right, right, which I wish the media would just do rather than pretending that alex is fine today
Starting point is 00:07:24 Right, right. Alex supports weed legalization. So alex is a true independent now. He's definitely not a white supremacist He's working with the democrats. Fuck you, washington post new york times. I expect this bullshit from you You guys are garbage Washington post you're supposed to be better than this Theoretically we hope for more. Yeah, so, uh, that's all to say that we will be live at twitch.tv Uh, jordan will be joining me on tonight's show when you're listening to this will be monday We will be live at 8 p.m. Central time. Uh-huh, uh, but because of your work schedule with the comedy That's nine eastern right. I think people can figure that out. It is seven mountain time
Starting point is 00:08:05 It is six o'clock pacific time. You're very much underestimating our audience five o'clock The middle of the pacific ocean time. What time is it in bukkarest? It is you don't know It's four. Okay, uh four p.m. Or four a.m. Whichever you prefer. It's simultaneous bukkarest romania is a magical place Exactly So, uh, if you'd like to join us there that would be wonderful Because of your work schedule with the stand-up comedy of this month There will be other folks like a matt rigs will be coming in this week and other folks to be
Starting point is 00:08:38 Determined tbd tbd. Uh, so I hope you'll enjoy that and come along for the ride And and then yeah as my schedule changes. I will be able to drop in more But it still won't be I I can't be here every night. Otherwise. I'll go broke and die and crazy Yeah, and as uh functionality increases will be able to take phone calls We'll be able to have you call in instead of having to come all the way over here All the way over here from uh, where my girlfriend lives up all blocks away. Yeah Uh, but be that as it may jordan. Let's let's stop fucking around and get to the investigation Okay, that's what people want to hear. They want to hear some alex jones. Yeah, I don't know if they do
Starting point is 00:09:13 I don't know That would be a fun reaction to like a review on itunes is like too much alex jones love the guy's talking Hate it when alex jones talks. Yeah, why is this alex jones show play clips of him? So, uh, like I said, we're starting on the 27th and this is coming off a good almost week of david knight hosting While alex is on a vacation or meeting with people it's unclear. Yeah. He claims he was investigating something Oh, but he never says what and it's unimportant Uh, the 27th alex jones shows backup And he gets on air and it's one of the least inspired three hours of broadcasting. I've ever heard of my life
Starting point is 00:09:53 He's come on vacation. He was or if you look at my notes right here. This episode sucks That's a great note. He keeps trying to get to news, but he just is like I was walking around the mountains and uh People love me I was on vacation and people just kept coming up to me and saying alex you're great I was just like I was just basking in the appreciation of the common people i eu Yeah, and so I don't have any clips of this episode because it's terrible and the episode ends Or at least a big part of the body of it is uh interview with a guy who's the vitamin lawyer
Starting point is 00:10:29 The vitamin lawyer. Yes, and it's all about how people are trying to make alex's supplements illegal Uh, and how they're fighting back against that It's a long sales pitch couched as like a legal defense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we skip everything in the 27th And we move along to the 28th, which is where we will start in earnest Uh alex jones is hot on the pc brigade. Oh, no people really don't like political correctness. They certainly don't It's terrible. So alex starts off the show uh in that headspace and he lists off a number of political correctness grievances that he has I want you to keep track of how many of these are real There basically is no free speech now on these campuses and the young people are competing with each other
Starting point is 00:11:15 To see who can destroy more language who can call people out who can dominate and control. It's a bunch of bullies ignorant bullies Of every race, color and creed who have joined this political correctness cult And now it's going into overdrive. You're not going to dress as katelin jenner. Well, that's it. I am You are not going to use brown pepper bags. Yes, I am Uh, you are not going to use the word mother or father. Yes, I am you are not going to defend yourself Yes, I am you are not going to criticize obama care. We'll call you racist. Well, you know what go ahead. I don't care None of those are real. Okay. None of those are real things I have
Starting point is 00:11:57 When you hear people on camp campuses are competing to see who can destroy more of the language What do you see? I remember when I was in college. I destroyed jaren's No one was able to use any ing verbs. That's a good call. Yeah, I'm jumping. No, you're not I'll be god damned. You say I jump. I have jumped Use the past passive voice. How dare you use active. I am in the process of a jump Make it a noun. God damn it That's what I did in college, you know, but I mean, maybe I don't know. I was pretty successful at it. I'll say I was I was a big fan of uh
Starting point is 00:12:40 Applying all scrabble rules like you can't use any proper nouns. I love whatsoever I don't want anybody to know what they are talking about at any given point in time No capitalizations in the middle of sentences. You sons of bitches. How dare you? Yeah, this is stupid, but I do I'm in alex excellent excellent summary. I do love though I see a debate team like a debate competition where you got three people on either side one of them walks up to a podium and is like Um, here is why we shouldn't use the word mother Uh, because it's dumb next Counterpoint. Yeah, what do you got? Mothers are uh, he's totally right
Starting point is 00:13:21 I So I love I don't think we should use the word mother and I will raise you We shouldn't use the word mom either or boy and girl. Yeah. Oh, no, absolutely not But I love I love how it can still use the plural though boys and girls. Yeah moms totally fine I I am so fascinated by this idea is like you telling me can't dress like Caitlyn Jenner. I'm gonna Yeah, why? Wait, I don't think he does so like I don't think he ever yeah. Yeah. I think he's like I can't people are saying that you can't mock trans people through costuming
Starting point is 00:13:57 Uh, and he's like I will he he's because we're right around Halloween at this point. Oh, okay That that's why that was one of his examples and I cut out a ton of it But he's on a real tear about misunderstanding why ethnic or uh minority group costumes are inappropriate He's like I like taco parties. Hey, why can't I have a taco party? I like to have a I like fajitas Al Jolson was a great entertainer. All right. It's it's more He's saying like why you saying I can't dress up like something. It's like no just don't don't turn a group into a costume Are you saying I can't criticize obama care? Otherwise. I'm racist. No, we're not saying that no We're saying you're racist and also you are criticizing obama care. Totally separate very very different situation
Starting point is 00:14:41 Those are not related at all. Also. No one has ever said you can't use a brown bag that are saying that the you know It was just a guy in seattle who made a memo about the terminology brown bag was a Has a racially charged history and that's true. You can still use brown bags if you want go ahead No one gives a shit. It's not it's not The brown bags themselves that are the problem. No, no you can't you can't be angry at a bag No, we can't we can't spend this much time on one clip. We got so much to get there. Okay. I'm sorry I mean look, we're are you telling me I can't defend myself. I'm I will I'm shutting down your language. Are you telling me? Let me tell you something now. It's a competition. Oh, no. Yeah, this was the wrong approach
Starting point is 00:15:21 Hey, Jordan, why don't you vamp more? I'll see you in hell before I bail next clip So in this next clip Alex Jones has found out that the southern poverty law center has put out a new article And he has some thoughts about it. They have a new giant article. I'm gonna cover in the next segment out doubt it from the Southern poverty law center demonizing the conspiracy myths and bemoaning how dangerous they are and how they're taking over
Starting point is 00:15:54 Why the imaginary situation of agenda 21 It's called margins to the mainstream the imaginary paradigm That there is an agenda 21 restrict resources So the southern poverty law center put out a long article Debunking a ton of alex jones's narratives, but not specifically targeted at alex jones There are just these are these right wing narratives that are being pushed right here is the truth about them and alex is furious about it Of course, of course he already hates the splc and now it's just like fucking. Fuck you guys I love the conservative hate towards the splc because it's always like hey
Starting point is 00:16:37 Fuck you and they're like we support poor people and free speech and they're like the fuck you do pc police And they're like no, we just like the aclu. We're very oh fuck them too Fuck the aclu like no the aclu is great And they do a lot of good work and they represent a lot of people creeping communism. I'll see you in hell Yeah, it's so I mean we don't need to get to uh too much depth more in depth about that It's just you know like he's starting to see people pay attention to the narratives that he puts out And uh push back against them I think he's he's starting to get a little bit scared of his own position in the world
Starting point is 00:17:13 And that will because it is nonsense and so is he and and he's aware of and the more people pay attention to him I wish we were doing this show back then because I think that we could have pointed out Much closer to real time how much he is just supporting russia right and I don't think people did a good job of expressing that back then I don't think people were it You were telling me this later earlier. Um, which is like if it was something where It was much more prevalent On one broadcast. Mm-hmm people would be more likely to pay attention to it But because it's kind of just a small part of every broadcast. Yeah, it's easy to kind of
Starting point is 00:17:52 Skip over it. Well and because and he says so many other crazy things You're like, what the fuck is he talking about? Sure And because a lot of the things that he's praising Putin for are really adjacent to things that he I mean he does believe. Yeah, he just theoretically. He just thinks that he's influencing russia. Yes That's the that's the mark's uh belief. You know when you're getting tricked. That's how you rationalize You're being duped. Yeah, you think like, oh, no, I'm winning this three-card monti game. I won the first two rounds Yeah, I'm fucking fleecing this guy and then you turn around and he disappears. It's too easy. That's too easy That's exactly what's going on to alex and it's so fucking clear
Starting point is 00:18:31 I can't wait. There's a couple clips that I have that I'm going to play that are fucking damning in this episode But before we get to them. Yes, here is a mic down clip out of the gate Because this clip is Fucked up. All right. This is alex It's what with the clips done. I'll explain why I think a piece of it is funny But the rest of it is not funny at all and it's alex proving. He's kind of a dick And well the story he tells might not be true also that's probably but if the story is true He is a fucking dick and he needs to mind his own goddamn business. Oh, no every few days. I hear some parent
Starting point is 00:19:12 I was at the gym yesterday and I heard Somebody talking going oh, it's terrible. Oh my gosh And then the ladies friend said what happened? Oh Such and such as baby just died. It was it was just a year old and It died. Yeah, she's written a letter to everybody about it. It died of SIDS And I couldn't help but I said, you know, they're not supposed to really die for a few months And I said that didn't exist until the 80s. They used to take people's kids They should take people's other children when they had a sudden infant death. They claim it was shaken baby. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:19:51 They go, yeah, you don't hear about that anymore. First. I get them to admit to something that they know I go, yeah You ought to ask them if they went in for their second round of shots then Because you know SIDS is closely associated in australian government studies and others With the sudden death. It's not true. You're a fucking And one woman goes, yeah, I think I've heard about that. I said, yeah I don't mean to get in your business. You're just talking about a dead baby. You might want to look into it for yourself and warn some people And all the time I hear people talking about
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yeah, I talked to bob and there he hadn't been to working about a week. Yeah, they're they're babies in the hospital And I'll say how old's that baby? Oh, is the toddler? Yeah 18 months Well, yeah, they did say that. Well, how do you know that? And I said, how do I know that I said you better look into it most autistic children or boys About 80 roughly 81 putting on the country What does that mean? And they almost always go into the autistic decline at 18 months
Starting point is 00:21:06 After they don't talk for a few days and lay in bed The hospital if you take them right back, they'll say, oh, that's just a normal side effect Just keep them in bed. They're gonna be fine. Well, that brain swells up and it bleeds in there Getting that lobotomy feels real good And we've had the nurses on it's come out in the news as well That they get those er's ready with those preemie seven months eight months six months They're fine. They're breathing they're getting better and after they're there a couple days two days the doctor comes in and says It's time to give them the inoculations full regimen seven shots
Starting point is 00:21:46 And the nurses beg they say doctor Kill back to the bioethics board They're gonna stop breathing some are gonna die and the doctor says You know policy And they give them their shots at some Some die on the spot others go on the respirators, but a lot of them can't make it because we're a loving country We're a good country. That's uh, that's insanely fucked up Like he's relish. It sounds like he's jacking it quite frankly
Starting point is 00:22:15 Why would you go up to a lady whose baby just died at the gym and we're like, hey I know uh, your baby just died, but let me tell you why and also I don't care about your baby I just want to push my agenda. It is just a useful situation for me to lie to you now Here's why he is a fucking psychopath. He is and I want to discuss some of these lies here in a second But first here's the part that I think is kind of funny It creates in my head the idea for a cartoon where it's just alex jones Wandering around his life butting into people's business like you guys talking about a baby There is an image in my head. Oh my baby's in the hospital. Is it 18 months?
Starting point is 00:22:59 Yeah, exactly. Um, I mean something like that Vaccines nosy ass anti-vaccine cartoon alex jones is kind of funny to me, but in the real world It's not so funny. So a couple things that we need to I love that I love the idea that anytime a baby goes into the hospital. He thinks it's vaccines Yeah, like not like well, baby. Do you not know that like babies are like, okay, if you have a fucking fine alex Let's go back to when babies were stolen by fucking coyotes. Let's move on. I'm done with this shit If you hate hospitals and medical science so much just fucking don't go and shut the fuck up Yeah, a couple of the things that we should discuss though just in terms of his bullshit narratives
Starting point is 00:23:43 The idea that there are studies that have shown that seeds is attached or in any way related to vaccination There are a couple studies, but they have been thoroughly debunked in terms of junk science They didn't follow the scientific method at all. They drew conclusions that weren't there to be concluded. Yeah, that's not even a That's not even a conspiracy theory. The the vaccines cause autism is at least a thing The vaccines kill your kid is dumb. Well, now that's and no doctor would give a premature baby seven shots Well, that gets to another another interesting issue that a lot of people believe anti vaccination things because of court cases That have been won by people whose children have been hurt by vaccines And it is that there's this thing called the national vaccine injury compensation program
Starting point is 00:24:27 And there's a vaccine court that was specially set up Uh, and this court is rigged in favor of people making complaints Intentionally so because the government wants to pay people Not to silence them, but they want to make it easier for them to get compensation for being hurt by vaccines because there is Negative side effects that can happen sometimes. I think that's probably good This court doesn't necessarily need you to prove scientifically that the vaccine caused your baby to be hurt or to die They just need to have a preponderance of the evidence Like it's a civil court and so there have been court cases that have come through the nvi cp and people have
Starting point is 00:25:12 Taken it to mean Science has proven this thing when in fact it's just something that was set up in order to compensate people for their loss Without proving scientifically anything right now. This is something that's super interesting to me Who pays the government the government they set it up specifically that way Here i will read this here So alex one of his big complaints is that whenever he talks about vaccines hurting you and killing babies He's like read the insert read the insert. It says it can cause diabetes or whatever. Yeah Because there are possible possible side effects like there's that on an aspirin bottle
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah, exactly it so if you take too much aspirin you will die, but there is a no fault situation for vaccines In terms of like drug companies won't be held responsible for vaccines that hurt people And that's done also intentionally by the government. Yeah, and i'll read this This is from an article on science blogs.com that i found very fascinating This is the history of that In the early 1980s in the wake of reports publicized by a news report and later a book by harris colter and barbara low fischer Called dpt a shot in the dark that the whole those are raptor names That the whole cell dpt vaccine was linked to encephalitis and brain damage
Starting point is 00:26:28 A flood of product liability lawsuits was on the verge of bringing the us vaccine program to its knees Later studies exonerated the dpt especially a large case control study But those studies did not come out until the 1990s Even though existing evidence at the time did not clearly support a link It did not clearly rule one out as a result vaccine manufacturers had increasingly difficult difficulty Obtaining liability insurance more and more of them stopped making whole cell dpt vaccines Congress ultimately was forced to intervene and pass the national childhood vaccine injury act of 1986 Which established a federal no fault system to compensate victims of injury caused by mandated vaccines
Starting point is 00:27:10 So there's a situation where people yeah, that's a that's a good thing There's a there's a situation where people could not prove nor disprove a link between a vaccine and uh Medical conditions right, but insurance companies just didn't want to fucking weight into that exactly even though It's a medical necessity when 10 years later They proved that there wasn't a connection of course in the intervening 10 years you destroy companies You destroy the progress of science. Yeah and tons of people could end up getting Are you saying panicked dumb people might have taken down an industry? Who would have guessed right or they didn't but they almost did yeah
Starting point is 00:27:43 And the government had to step in to create these courts and to create this no fault system No regulations so intentionally They set it up so the people who make the vaccine wouldn't be punished in the off chance of these Panics yeah that they might not be guilty of and the government would pay everything Yeah, so it is an actually a good system. It is it's a very good system that we have but people use things that are found In these courts that are not scientific. They are just civil cases basically Yeah, and they treat them as if they are science and it's like the one that caretta scott king won against uh america for murdering Martin Luther king jr. Um
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah, yeah, so the other anyway The other big lie that alex uh uses there is he says that 80 plus percent of autistic people are male That is bananas. Well, it's actually this is also super interesting If you look into it the reason that there is uh a belief that most autistic people are male It's sociological. It's just the way that we classify boys and girls differently. There's a two-pronged thing That's a piece of one of them. Yeah one of the issues is in the early days of autism studies Almost everybody they studied were dudes. They were all males. That's how most scientific studies work now But especially in the case of autism. Yeah, and one of the reasons for that is because the way males
Starting point is 00:29:07 Express autism is incredibly obvious. Uh-huh the signs and symptoms are much more Clear uh There have been people who have theorized this isn't proven or anything But uh one of the leading theories about that is that uh women have whether it's sociologically ingrained Or it's innate have a higher ability to mimic social cues and they are able to uh know Instinctively what's appropriate and not scream out and shit like that. Uh-huh beyond that studies have uh started to be done That are indicating that stuff like anorexia nervosa Self-harm social anxiety these more feminine uh related conditions hysteria. Well, no
Starting point is 00:29:53 I mean all those things males can't have but there I know statistically is a higher incidence Yeah, and women people are starting to understand and look at it from the perspective of those are female autistic symptoms Right, they may not be neurotypical. Right. There's a great book you should read called neuro tribes. Okay, very good It's about the history of autism. Okay. Yeah, I would recommend that for everybody Well beyond that those are some of the reasons alex is lying. Yeah, so so many reasons he's full of shit But also more importantly stay out of people's fucking business Especially if their baby just died and you're at the gym. Yeah Just do your fucking lifts and get out of there. So, uh, that is alex jones' take on science
Starting point is 00:30:33 Now in this which is that it's not real and he has no understanding of some of the nuances of it But now let's get to him discussing his science Oh, no in terms of the products that he sells. Oh, no While we're figuring out what's going on with me and and some other issues I want to air a compendium of special reports that they did for the nightly news Her and her good friend, uh, miss robin Because it was their idea to try to Check out the claims that we were making and what listeners were saying about the survival
Starting point is 00:31:09 shield combined of course with the Uh liver shield and what that would do they did the six day cleanse on top of juicing as well And the six day cleanse is up on info wars life.com And you take the oxy powder four to six tablets a day just high level oxygen that releases in your intestines A printable intestine you take, uh, the liver shields proprietary product Uh in water four times a day with apple cider vinegar And then on the sixth day you drink seven ounces of virgin olive oil
Starting point is 00:31:43 When you go to bed at night and lay on the side that your liver's on your right side For at least an hour and then most people in the morning have spectacular results When uh green and black stones come out What I say most people like 98 percent we talk to have results within two days So that's uh black stones come out Yep, as long as you drink six to seven ounces of olive oil and lay on your right side for an hour And you pray to the witch god
Starting point is 00:32:10 That's no good and then of course on the seventh day you rest. Yeah indeed while the balls come out of you Also, uh, if you are on le mcdill you should take four to six tablets a day as I as do I also Talk to your doctor before you do this shit Talk to your doctor anytime green and black stones come out of you. Now the doctors want those to stay inside you That's the thing you don't talk to them about that. Oh, okay. You don't want to tell them No, they're a bunch of snitches what I would suggest you do put them in a bag Bring them to your doctor and just put them right on his desk and be like, that's good and then flip them off So, uh, he said at the beginning there. He's like, well, we're trying to figure out what's going on with leanne
Starting point is 00:32:48 Leanne macadoo has been sent to st Louis where there is a fire burning underground near nuclear waste or something along those lines wonderful They can never get her skype going. Is that true? I don't know. I think I vaguely recall this story I'm not sure if their angle on it is a correct I don't care because they can never get her skype connection together So they just keep being like Well, we'll go to leanne and then they can't get her. So the alex says over and over again I didn't tell her to go there. She went on her own like as if like he thinks she's gonna die
Starting point is 00:33:21 Wait, he's trying to clear himself. Yeah, wait, what it's just over and over again Leanne's gone rogue She's just going to st. Louis every single time he brings it up. He points out This wasn't my idea because he thinks it's gonna go bad It doesn't and they can never get her on camera. Of course So they have she's actually just in a bar across the street. It might as well A bit. Yeah, so they move on to another interview Uh on this day, we have a visit from george nori of coast to coast a.m. All right
Starting point is 00:33:50 As we know coast to coast a.m. Is a show that's on overnight Uh from I think it's like midnight to 3 a.m. Or something like that. Uh-huh and they talk about ghosts They talk about aliens. They talk about ancient aliens. Love it. They talk about uh, all that stuff pyramids full of grain Probably talk about tulpas. Uh, talk about golems Probably talk about gins. I imagine You're just going through all midder middle eastern situations, huh? Yeah, the talk talk about the tarot. I assume. Okay. All right So george nori is a guest on this episode and the reason he's on Might surprise you. We have forgotten morality
Starting point is 00:34:30 And what this country was all about and I think it's just crazy, alex We've got to get back to our grassroots again As a nation and do things that are just common sense, right? White I mean which we're not doing anymore. Um white people The presidential push to try to get me to run for office You are you are absolutely right. I am non-partisan. I am not a republican. I'm not a democrat Absolutely, I'm probably more a libertarian, but I'm generally independent. However If you're gonna run for president in the united states, you really have to be a democrat or republican on those parties
Starting point is 00:35:05 Look, they're about the same, right? But you have to do that because that's what garners the biggest votes There has been a group that has asked me and wanted me to push for this to run I did consider that it's getting late the clock is ticking But I have to take a leave from coast to coast and I'm not sure I want to do that Um, but I probably could get the nomination Democratic nomination Run off against uh, mr. Carson or mr. Trump or of course, maybe even jeb bush
Starting point is 00:35:37 Well, george, you've got the listeners tens of millions of them that would actually come out and support you You're a smart guy. You destroy them in the debates. Not a chance Tens of millions of listeners for coast to coast a.m I mean, he does have a sizable listener base, but we went over the statistics on the uh, the neilson ratings of radio shows And he doesn't have nearly that many listeners He is going to easily win the democratic nomination easily even though he is not a republican or a democrat No, he's mainly a libertarian and we all know how democrats love them love them love libertarians But he's mostly an independent right. He's non-partisan right. He doesn't believe in reality, but he is non-partisan
Starting point is 00:36:19 Reality is a partisan issue. Here are a couple things that he believes it would fly Super well with the democratic party nomination. Uh-huh. He's a super into blue lives matter Makes perfect sense. He is really into anti-vaccination stuff. Everybody loves that. The left is thrilled with those positions. Oh, it's my favorite thing He uh, you hear me yelling all the time about how we need fewer vaccinations At less oversight of police. Listen guys I'm gonna announce my candidacy for president right now in 2020 My main platform will be bring back polio. That will be my main platform make polio widespread again Can't make that an acronym that you can pronounce. Yep, but uh, so george norris on uh, he expounds
Starting point is 00:37:04 He expands some of his positions. One of them is get rid of the fed Uh, get rid of income taxes. Perfect. Uh, just make it a railroad No fire stations. Uh, it's very libertarian If you're if your house burns down, you better have a tip on hand for the fire department. Otherwise, you're fucked. Yeah Yeah, do you remember dan that there was a time in our history where there were actually competing fire departments in the same city That would allow your house to burn down You had to and if your neighbor bought fire insurance, they would protect your neighbor's house from the fire of your house Fucking insane competition. Uh, oh free market free market prosperity dan
Starting point is 00:37:47 I mean, that's one of the things that's so fascinating about libertarianism as a whole is like the elements of it We've done before I know all of the elements done this You're wrong not because we can prove it Scientifically or mathematically we can just go back 50 years and be like see this is what happens when the dumb shit you believe is actually practiced And they're like no, no, no, we'll figure it out. We've added technology. Yeah. Yeah. No, we got it this time Also a huge piece of george norris campaign is about emp defense. All right. Okay. Now i'm in Okay, now i'm in that is a democratic position
Starting point is 00:38:23 He spends an inordinate amount of time talking about how vulnerable he just watched oceans 11 And he's like that's how emps work right something like that So george norris blows hard for a bit and then alex gets to another interview That he has to end out the show, which is our friend max kaiser who we know is the weirdo economist Who has created max coins? Yes, he has his own cryptocurrency. How's it doing? Uh, here's how it's doing And to help people Alex I am giving away free money today at start coin dot com
Starting point is 00:38:57 Uh, as a matter of fact if you go to start coin dot com I'm giving away free money to your listeners All day as a way to introduce them to cryptocurrencies, which I think is the only way To preserve your wealth. Uh, so that's how it's going. It's not great. No, no He's giving away free. He's given a fray He's giving away bucks that aren't even good at disney like he's giving away magic money. Yeah To give people in it's very easy to give away worthless things And uh, let's be clear. I'm giving away this air
Starting point is 00:39:30 Everybody that goes to knowledge fight.com is allowed to have as much air as they want I just want to get you guys into breathing. Sure. I want to make sure you're aware of it. That's big of you Now, of course after the first month, I will be charging you a stipend Yeah, there will be a small big There's a small big on the air you breathe. So, but I mean that's pathetic. That's like that's making it so obvious that it's This is not an appearance where we're going to be talking about anything substantial This is fucking get on my currency right also There's a ton of buy gold shit
Starting point is 00:40:02 So that like is the only way to preserve your wealth is nonsense buy gold to hawk gold all by gold and then Just transfer it into max bucks. Yeah, also all these people who come on and say to buy gold sell gold Like peter shift sells gold. That's odd. Yeah, it's I can't think of a reason for that gcn Ted anderson the guy who syndicates alex jones's show sells gold. Hey all of this shit Hey, the guy from hair club for men came on and sold. He's he's a he's not just uh, he's not just the guy He's a member. He's a member not just the owner. I'm a member He's a member but at least these guys aren't just selling gold. They're made of gold. Yeah, they're Midas
Starting point is 00:40:41 Yeah, so that's the end of october 28th and we move along to october 29th Something interesting happened on the eve of october 28th and that is that cnbc had a presidential debate They had a republican primary debate And if you recall it didn't go well, it was a disaster. It was a huge disaster. It was a shit show Yeah, so here's alex jones's take on it There are moments in television Moments in media Where the full import of how
Starting point is 00:41:17 Big something is Isn't understood for weeks months even years But what we witnessed last night with the cnbc republican debate Moderated by cnbc Is evident pretty much instantly This is a polaroid moment Where you don't have to wait more than just a few seconds after the debate. I was sitting there watching it with family
Starting point is 00:41:50 and children and even let my children stay up late to finish it and See the aftermath And I asked my children my 13 year old son my 11 year old daughter my 7 year old daughter While we were watching the coverage That info wars was engaged in with david nigh jacari jackson. Don't do that and of course joe biggs and others And my children said The reporters that's what they call them were reporters. They're really just pundits
Starting point is 00:42:26 Were trying to bully and trying to attack and trying to make The republican candidates look stupid, but they looked stupid. That's what rex jones My 13 year old had to say about it in-depth analysis from a 13 year old They made them look stupid, but they're stupid. Good work. Good work rex. Go do your multiplication homework. Yeah, no kidding I let my 7 year old daughter watch one of the most homophobic Racist things that I could possibly allow her to watch but I mean if you a bunch of if you remember faces Fucking fighting to hate people more. That's what that debate was
Starting point is 00:43:09 But it was a contest to see who could destroy more language That's what it was. If you remember those kids have been on info wars for sure So it's like you're you're way past that. Yeah, you're you're you're making in terms of bad parenting You're right, uh, but he alex has more to say about this debate. That's not his uh Oh, is he gonna get into the substance of what they talked about? No really gonna get into the issues that they communicated He's gonna tell you what his three-year-old kid thought. Okay. No, that's how he does he wants to critique the media and how they behaved and You can really tell there's something he wants to say but can't they wanted to demonize the republican party
Starting point is 00:43:46 They wanted to demonize the candidates that weren't establishment They would give softball questions to the republicans that they know or part of the team While viciously attacking people they don't control it was crystal clear That this was a rigged attempt to derail patriot candidates and instead it was a fiasco It was a disaster. It was a train wreck. It was an implosion for the sycophantic media horse This weekend I was hiking in the mountains of south Us, texas, and it really hit me that we've had so many debates so many calls so many guests talk about What should we call the decepticon mainstream sewage stream?
Starting point is 00:44:37 collaborator institute Corporate media i'm just throwing out a bunch of options and it hit me Straight talk is the answer straight labels that actually fit What something is is what we should go with fair You don't call butter Concentrated milk fat. You call it butter. How about another example?
Starting point is 00:45:02 You don't call chocolate Recondensed sugared cocoa powder. You call it chocolate. You got a third You don't call a pile of horse manure on the side of the road some scientific name for the leaving of the Okay equine species the You call it what it is way to bring it home. They are the enemy
Starting point is 00:45:32 mainstream media is horses the enemy They are the deceivers They are the enemy propaganda arms of the major corporations that brag they've conquered this country They don't I mean they aren't collaboratively wrong It's it's spiritually wrong. It's not entirely, you know, they they are just giant corporate entities and the corporations have pretty much said
Starting point is 00:46:02 We own you so he's not it's not terrible But I mean where he's coming from is what his analysis of the debate is Fucking stupid. You can be right for the wrong reason. Yeah, and that might be what you're pretty much every time we agree It's like Alex. You're an idiot. I agree with what you Say But what you mean is dumb. Yeah, I don't agree with what you mean, but your your literal point is correct Yeah, yeah in in a small way. Yeah. Yeah, but I think he's pissed off. He can't say juden press I really think that he's like he's like that's where he wants to go with us
Starting point is 00:46:40 He wants to go that far and he can't right the other thing that's interesting to take away from that is that is a talking point That donald trump will pick up. Oh Who would guess yeah, so that's another that's an interesting little parallel there Uh, I'm gonna skip this. Do you remember I I will say the one thing that he is absolutely right about is that during the campaign the media Failed us on a level. I don't think I've ever seen before big time like they are a big big reason
Starting point is 00:47:14 All the all the blame we want to put on the fucking nazis They the the media wanting a story Wanting a an interesting campaign wanting that horse race is a big problem And one of the big reasons that trump was elected. Yeah, if they were capable of just Asking trump questions. Yeah, like direct like even now if somebody just asked trump what something means like trump What is what does dakka stand for and he'd be like? Oh
Starting point is 00:47:47 Isn't that the other name for north korea? Yeah, I don't know of course. He doesn't know He doesn't know fucking anything and if you would have just If you'd have just like stop talking about how he sounded and started talking about how he knows fucking nothing Yeah, maybe we would have had a better shot. Yeah, but that's not what alex is saying. No, of course not Of course not. Just because he can't process that. No, just because it has to be that they're lying about him Just because we both have critiques of the media doesn't mean we agree. Yeah, you know, that's that's sort of the place Uh, that Well, we both critique corporations, but we definitely don't agree on why certainly
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah, so i'm gonna skip this next clip because it's just alex saying that he got his dad to retire because of obama care And now he works for him. That makes sense. So now alex jones at info wars has a cia dentist working for him Absolutely Yeah, you can always trust to cia dentists. So in this next clip alex jones Uh contradicts himself within the span of a couple seconds And it's fascinating because I don't have to sit here and tell my reporters what to report What to write what to say Because I just hire people that are already informed and love freedom
Starting point is 00:48:53 And they're just going to go out on report on what's happening And that's what's so exciting about not having talking points wait for it I mean, I do stuff like hey, they're coming after the guns. Let's really stay focused on that this week or hey tpp They're ramming it through. Let's try to make that a big focus or talking points It's not in the news right now that they're continuing to put veterans on don't treat death list Let's go undercover and expulsion talking points. Yeah, so in that pause all talking points in that pause that he had He made a weird face. He was like oops It's it's wonderful that we don't use talking points admittedly. We use talking points admittedly
Starting point is 00:49:30 But we don't do it exactly what to come. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They just love I love that he's hiring people that love freedom. Yeah, like I would hate it if he was hiring people who are Fucking fascists sure it would be crazy if he was hiring people who advocated harshly against any kind of Oversight of the government. That would be terrible terrible. Oh man. So it'd be terrible if he hired those people Um, this investigation is supposed to be about uh, how alex jones ended up where he is in the presidential campaign Yeah, and as such we need to cover some of the stuff that I don't want to cover about this debate Because these clips I don't like to listen to ted cruz talk Steel yourself because we're going to have to listen to ted cruz talk a little bit in this next clip
Starting point is 00:50:17 And we can critique it on the other side, but it's interesting to hear how alex treats ted cruz at this point in history He has a boner for him. Of course. I'm gonna go to your calls. Well, let's start playing some of these clips This is ted cruz blast corrupt mainstream media. He kind of set the tone and he pointed out. He is a leader I have to admit he's done some stuff. I don't like but going after the abortions going after the open borders Going after the gun grabbers going after obamacare Going after not supporting isis That he still supports going after a sod. That's the problem. I gotta say ted cruz I know ram pulse i'll say he's better, but ted cruz despite problems really has delivered
Starting point is 00:50:59 Let's uh go ahead and go to this ted cruz club. Here it is delivered so pal senator cruz Congressional republicans democrats and the white house are about to strike a compromise that would raise the dead limit Prevent a government shutdown and calm financial markets that fear of another Washington-created crisis is on the way Does your opposition to it show that you're not the kind of problem solver american voters want? You know, let me say something at the outset The questions that have been asked so far in this debate Illustrate why the american people don't trust the media
Starting point is 00:51:35 Kill me we'll get back into the fucking kill. We'll get back to this clip in a second, but let's really let me let me say something The question that I was asked I don't want to answer because I had a big part in forcing a government shutdown Yeah, it was kind of one of my big things one of the really don't want to address that one of big things I did was lower the credit rating of the entire country right through my petulance and hatred of a black president You know how everybody's complaining about the national debt I have ensured that it will be higher now that is me in in fairness To ted Cruz in ultimate fairness that question was phrased a little aggressively. It was a dumb question
Starting point is 00:52:15 Don't get me wrong. The point of the question is valid. Yeah, it's it's worded a little bit like hey, uh, I'm not I'm not in partial here. The government is functioning. Yeah, are you trying are you? While the government is while the government is functioning people like it You don't want the government to function. Are you an asshole? You seem to want to grandstand in such a way that will Make the government not work Yeah, does that preclude you from being a leader and because he can't answer that question He has to grandstand and flip it on the media right and that's clearly what he's doing. Oh god transparently Yeah, absolutely and he gets a giant applause break because everybody at the republican debate is fucking stupid. Yeah, so now let's jump back
Starting point is 00:53:02 This is not a cage match And if you look at the questions donald trump, are you a comic book villain ben carson? Can you do math john casick? Will you insult two people over here? Marco rubio, why don't you resign jeff bush? Why have your numbers fallen? How about talking about the substantive issues? He is the best I'm not finished yet the contrast with the democratic debate Where every fawning question from the media was which of you is more handsome and wise So this is the question about the deadline which you have 30 seconds left to answer should you choose to do so?
Starting point is 00:53:47 Look at that arrogant little let me be clear The men and women on this stage Have more ideas more experience more common sense. He's not going to every participant in the democratic debate any idea Reflected a debate between the bolsheviks and the mensheviks And nobody watching at home believes that any of the moderators has any intention of voting in a republican primer The questions that are being asked shouldn't be trying to get people to tear into each other It should be what are your substantive solutions? I asked you about the deadline
Starting point is 00:54:27 You didn't ask a real question punk You don't actually want to hear the answer john you don't want to hear the answer you just want to You used your time on something else. Senator. Paul. You're not interested in an answer John Senator Paul the budget deal crafted by speaker that's enough of that I skipped the break. This is so important This is how they tried to control the narrative. No, that's uh, how people act like babies That's how that's how he tried to control the narrative. Yeah, exactly got asked a question and then instead
Starting point is 00:55:06 He controlled the narrative. Mm-hmm. That's what he did right the moderator asked a bad question But it was still like hey there was talk about talk about the debt ceiling And he was like the media's bad and you're like, okay And then here is time is up here because you're a fucking idiot. You're a child. So you're you you're going in time out That's what he did right. It's it's uh It's a situation where sure the question might have been framed poorly or presented poorly But it gives an opportunity for you to rise above it and defend yourself about this issue That clearly a lot of people think you're a fucking dick about yeah
Starting point is 00:55:43 And so he refuses to do that instead plays victim And then even to the end when the time is up he plays victim saying oh, I can answer it Because he knows that they're not going to give him more time Of course he gets to play the victim of like, oh Look, I had a great answer about that, but you guys are being fucking dicks. You don't want to talk about substance I just wasted a minute yelling about how everyone on this stage is a victim because we're all super rich white dudes Except Ben Carson, right? It was a super rich black dude Carly Fiorino was there. I think but who's even more super rich than the rest of us. She's a white lady. So you know
Starting point is 00:56:17 Yeah, well, we don't need to worry about we got our demographics You guys just want us to insult each other. You don't want to ask us substantive questions Admittedly the question you just asked me was great. It was substantive But I am not going to answer it right. I am an instead going to wine Like a tiny fuck Ted Cruz Ted Cruz is The nails on a chalkboard as a human being. They're legitimately should not be live audiences. I think Absolutely these debates like it's that's a mess
Starting point is 00:56:47 Uh, because you can just pander and do do shit like that And even that if you have time if you're trying to answer a question Why are you stopping for applause breaks? You're not using your time properly. Yeah, but also you missed it because you are screaming I'm varying. Uh, but alex in the middle of that says Ted Cruz is the best on his feet of any statesman I've ever seen. Oh my god. Kill us all consider that within six months He will join in on the Ted Cruz's dad killed jfk. Well, that's true That's just a fact. He will go that far that quickly. Right. That's amazing to me Uh, that doesn't that doesn't amaze me at all
Starting point is 00:57:28 If when you don't believe in anything fair, you don't have to worry about whether or not your positions are consistent That's because you don't have any positions So we have one more clip that we got to get through of this debate shit Uh, and it starts with alex screaming about melissa harris parry. Uh, because she's like There's that part, but she had also in uh As I recall the setting was uh confirmation hearings for uh, paul ryan to be the speaker And alex is spinning a real fun yarn about that because he's taking credit for bainer stepping down All of us tea party
Starting point is 00:58:06 Liberty people we forced him out and we're gonna get one of our guys in there because we have momentum now paul ryan is there He's like, no, this is this doesn't mean that we didn't put him in but he's on a short leash. Yeah Yeah, you idiot. Yeah, it's so clear that like oh no bainer wanted to step down He wanted to get out of there bainer was sick of that shit and he's very smart and he was very He clearly had a million dollar offer on the table. Yeah, so, um, alex is really I could get shit from lunatics all day And get shit from other sane people all day Or I could leave And get millions of dollars and no one will care what i'm doing and not have to worry about anything
Starting point is 00:58:45 I would take that option. Of course. So, uh, in the confirmation hearings They're talking about paul ryan and someone says that he's hard working And melissa harris parry stops to say like, uh, well, I agree with you and I think paul ryan is a good choice But whatever I think of the word hard working I want to be careful about language because it brings up to me an image of Slaves in a field and that is the definition of hard working for me What I think she was getting at first of all, I don't necessarily agree with how she makes up this point I think that might be a little bit of a linguistic stretch in terms of bringing
Starting point is 00:59:21 Unrelated issues in and what have you yeah, but I think the point that she's making is uh, hey all of us We're not really that hard working right in the grand scheme of things. Let's try and be clear about what we do Yeah, exactly. I think that's what she's saying, but i'm not going to go to bat for her 100 But alex is furious about it Of course, so he starts ranting here and it goes a couple minutes And then weaves into some ben carson stuff in the debate and it's really important That we get the entire context leading up to this because where it ends and what's making alex really mad is fascinating And we'll get to it in a second if they get angrier and if they get in the scum's face
Starting point is 00:59:59 And if you get in the scum's face and stop letting them dictate to you like melissa harris parry does That if you say somebody's a hard worker, you're disparaging black slaves You need to say listen witch quit trying to stir up racism. How dare you connect words to racism? Like you control the language. What type of cult leader do you want to be you freak? You're gonna tell me I got a drink barbiturates in vodka and Go laying bunk beds to go join the hail bop cult you little bug-eyed nobody We're sick of being dominated by trash like you you piece of garbage Ah
Starting point is 01:00:38 Break their control over you break their spell over you Break the conditioning this is like gary oldman and leon the professional The heavens are the seal of god's creation The sun the moon the stars all bear god seal nice pivot from you and realize these people aren't god God is god these people aren't our gods Melissa harris parry is it some god who tells me what to do you have no audience witch All you've got your cult programmers and educators and the colleges and public schools that will vomit back whatever you say
Starting point is 01:01:19 Because they are already dead. So yeah, you do have an audience you totalitarian. I am the liberal Sure, I am the pro-human I am the pro-freedom not you my audience carries the light of the republic not you You carry nightmare soviet style brainwashing You are a clear and present danger to this country with the rest of your company of enemies You are the filth of the planet And I'm not stupid I know full well you're capable of self-inflicted political wounds to then roll back clips what I have to say here The difference is when you people pull off your garbage everybody knows who the prime suspects are
Starting point is 01:02:05 It certainly isn't us. I will annihilate you with information information. I will destroy you with your own words I don't need violence. I don't want any harm upon you. I want a little long failed life Watching humanity succeed and our children become strong And living together in true human advancement No blacks though That's what I want to see And that's what you don't want to see as a social engineer you genesis garbage pusher Great let's go to debate audience booz cnbc moderators question to ben Carson. Let's play this little luscious jiblet
Starting point is 01:02:48 This is a company called manatech a maker of nutritional supplements with which you had a 10-year relationship. They offered Plains that they could cure autism Cancer they paid seven million dollars to settle a deceptive marketing lawsuit in texas and yet your involvement continued Why? Well, that's easy to answer. I didn't have an involvement with them. That is total propaganda And this is what happens in our society total propaganda. I did a couple of speeches for them I do speeches for other people. They were yes. I did have involvement. It is absolutely absurd To say that I had any kind of a relationship with them. Do I take the product? Yes. I think it's a good product
Starting point is 01:03:29 You're advertising now other website with the logo over your shoulder if somebody put me on their home page They did it Your vetting process or judgment in any way, you know, it speaks to the fact that I don't know those People want to go buy a product when the fdc goes after or the fda Absolutely, I've seen the news reports. I've talked to the company owners when they come after you sales explode People know trash. They know who you are. They know you hate them They know you got bad will We hate you. We see you feel we know you're killing babies. We know you're aborting them
Starting point is 01:04:12 We know you're selling their body parts. You we know we know We know you don't like us. Well, we don't like you either Got that You want to fight you little bastards? You're gonna get one the sleeping giant is rising. Yes Break the chain So it's good to know that he's doing that on purpose Wow, you know all that that was some good screaming We've I mean we went over then I think in the last episode he's I mean he admits
Starting point is 01:04:42 That's all fake that he's just screaming stuff and he doesn't really care Yeah, it's not hard he gets off air during the little 72nd commercial break gargles with a little salt water Back on it. So the thing there. I think the reason that he's really mad is because The context that Ben Carson is being critiqued about is a nutritional supplement company and he knows that that's what he does Yeah, and he knows that he's kind of vulnerable one scam goes down You know all the other the other scams start falling. So, um, Ben Carson was involved with manatech for a very long time and I he did a couple of paid speeches for them $42,000 for one of the speeches he got paid. Hey, which is more than I make any year
Starting point is 01:05:29 He wasn't involved. So Carson first, but sure it was on his website But whoever did that did it without his permission. No, that was their website not his website Oh, okay. To be fair. Uh, but uh, this is from an article in the atlantic Uh, Carson first spoke out in favor of manatech products over a decade ago when he claimed that the texas-based companies Glyco nutritional supplements, which included larch tree bark and aloe vera extract help him overcome prostate cancer In one video for manatech last year that remains online Carson discusses his experience with nutritional supplements while seated next to the company's logo Quote the wonderful thing about a company like manatech is that they recognize that when god made us
Starting point is 01:06:07 He gave us the right fuel. Carson explained and that fuel was the right kind of healthy food Basically what the company is doing is trying to find a way to restore natural diet as a medicine or as a mechanism for maintaining health That doesn't sound like an unbiased person now when god made us he also did Give us cancer. That is true Prostate the human body will break down. Yeah, and eventually turn against itself and murder itself. Yeah, but If you just take some aloe vera, man, you're done. You're good That's such So, but how do you get away with lying like that? It doesn't and then lying like that on stage
Starting point is 01:06:46 It doesn't matter and then people booing somebody being like, hey You clearly didn't say anything if you don't have any involvement with them Why is your picture on their website? Maybe you should say something and everybody's like boo How dare you make a good point? No, the reason that they booed just I I don't know why I need to just be super clear about it But the reason they booed is because the question was doesn't that indicate bad judgment on your part? Yeah, which I mean I Dishy, but yeah, doesn't it I guess But alex jones is pissed off because manatech is also a direct sales
Starting point is 01:07:20 Operation wherein you buy a bunch of products and sell it to your friends They're also a multi-level marketing campaign and so is info war holy fucking shit. So is info war's life It's all pyramid schemes alex jones has a pyramid scheme operating out of info wars Jesus that he runs and so manatech is incredibly similar to the info wars supplement line And he knows it's a good thing. It's an unregulated industry Right, he knows it and he knows how vulnerable he is if people start discussing it and you start looking at this stuff Realize how much of a fucking scam it is It it his house of cards could unravel very quickly. Wow. And so of course
Starting point is 01:07:57 He's gonna get mad say that the msm is the enemy and they're trying to attack people unjustly and uh, Dr. Carson, you're a uh, you're a surgeon. Uh, why is it that you don't believe in science? Dr. Carson, you're a weirdo end of question So also in this episode alex jones has a lengthy uh, discussion of cucks. Uh, he talks about cuckolding And I just I left it fucking loves it I left it out just because it's like this is getting repetitive and we got a lot of ground to cover But if you want to go and listen to that a piece of the episode It's not worth it. You want to go and get cucked
Starting point is 01:08:34 So, um up to this point, there's been a marked lack of discussion of russia Uh, for where we've been right in terms of the last like two weeks or so of info wars coverage, uh, but don't worry That's just uh, because he wanted to cover the debate He's getting back into it. There shouldn't be guns openly at boot camp because people don't know how to use them yet It should be in restricted areas on the range or with proper trainers. I've studied it. I haven't been in the military, but I've studied it And everybody should have them all at the time I get not having a bunch of recruits who might flip out. They're being tested. There's gonna be some mentally ill people
Starting point is 01:09:10 That's why you're putting them under pressure to find out what they'll do under pressure That's why they do that at boot camp Why frankly boot camp isn't probably strong enough now like it used to be because of political correctness the russians kill people in boot camp Routinely that's what used to happen in our boot camps and that's because you're there to learn what war is going to be like Great russian boot camps are awesome because they kill people. You know what I love about my fighting force Uh, making sure there are fewer of them And also making sure that you don't want to go to a boot camp because you might die Also making sure the ones that do make it out are probably psychologically wounded by the fact that their friends died in training
Starting point is 01:09:48 Oh, love it. Yeah, I want ptsd before the Actual fighting I want ptsd among the cooks. Yeah, absolutely among the people who aren't even in the shit Oh, they might they might lose their minds if it weren't for political correctness We would still be murdering our own military and russia does it and they're great. They're great. That's his example You can see how great they are They have such a wonderful military right filled with people who are no, they're happy. No, they're happy. Yeah, sure They're alive. Yeah So um at the end of this episode alex has a uh interview with his intrepid reporter wane madsen
Starting point is 01:10:25 He's the guy who brought us the hot story about hillary clinton's chef being murdered and having a letter pinned to him That said call larry nickles. That's great. Yeah, so there's that love it Yeah, wade madsen has cracked the case of 9 11. Okay, uh, it turns out that in arizona. There is a hanger There's like an airfield and he's convinced that this is where they turned planes into remote control drones He has no evidence of it. It is just speculation and they treat it as gospel I knew it was going to be arizona's who caused the problem and he talks about this and then like two days later on the show They play a report of him in arizona And they think it proves anything and it doesn't accept that it's clearly very easy to get onto this airfield
Starting point is 01:11:10 They try and play it up. They play it up like it's like no one has ever been here without getting killed Fucking fat wane madsen's just walking around with a camera There's clearly a camera guy with it But there's walking around like right over here. You see an airplane like what are you doing? That's not good You're invalidating your own argument I'm very unhappy with that airbase if if they are turning planes into drones and their security is that lax It's like come on guys. No, but this is like 16 years later or whatever 15 years later. It's now transferred ownership Right. I think it's a rundown airbase at this point. All right. But anyway, it's a load of bullshit
Starting point is 01:11:42 And I don't really care So we now move on to october 30th and this I believe Is uh where some shit gets really serious some shit gets Fucking super serious. Here we go. But the sun is the main driver of climate. I don't care if the un Passes resolution saying it doesn't affect climate. It's the main driver and the only thing that's constant is change So first it's freezing global cooling Then by the late 80s it's global warming Because we worry in a little warming up tick
Starting point is 01:12:17 In the larger cycle and then when it started cooling again in the last 15 years First the increase in temperature slowed then it stopped now. It's been declining for about a decade That's numbers across the world on average. Not true. There's some record high temp Some record low temps always and all the little micro climates around the world So now they just say, you know what we can't lose if we say climate change Cuz the climate with all the huge news I've got today I open up with that because latimer putin has come out in a speech and in a poet bureau Statement that we have linked on info wars.com red linked because this is such a big deal
Starting point is 01:13:06 Putin anthropogenic climate change is a geo strategic weapon globalists want to undermine russia's thriving energy sector and every other country's energy sector or private energy sector Not controlled by the globalist and putin 100 percent hits the nail on the head. No other major political leader will do this Russia had been even going along with the fraud But now they're breaking with the globalist on every front. Oh boy Oh boy, you just I just can't listen to that right now. It's tough. There are three hurricanes. Yeah Simultaneously and a fourth if you just go a week in the past. Yeah, yeah, just fucking Destroying everything and you listen to these people who have denied it for so long and you're like
Starting point is 01:13:50 Look at all the damage you've done. Yeah. Look at all of the fucking damage you've done And you look at the predictions that were made like, you know, 10 years ago or so And there's pretty much matching up with what's happening in front of our eyes right now. Yeah, uh, but How did we not know dan? I don't know. How could we not have how could we have missed this? This is I mean sure the oil companies themselves knew And made sure that everybody denied it and so they could continue murdering everybody and sure Putin has a lot of financial interest in that world In the fuel and the organic climate change is a hoax, right? It's a weapon. It's a weapon to undermine russia
Starting point is 01:14:30 Right and the the the private energy sector. Fuck you russia has is is it possible for us to collectively sue I feel like we should be able to see the oil companies, right? Yeah, probably like all the people in houston should yeah, we can link We can definitely link all of this damage to climate change one once we can definitely prove that they knew that they were causing climate change And that they knew that this was a result of that So i'm pretty sure that they should be shut down jordan. That's that's sued to oblivion This is one thing and i'm i'm on board with you, but in terms of our investigation It's more important that alex is being fooled by putin's stance on it
Starting point is 01:15:09 Yeah, well, I don't think he's being fooled by putin's stance on it. I think so It's it it just dovetails nicely into the climate change denial that they've always had no no no no Take that away from it. Take the climate change part of it out of it alex is being tricked into thinking putin is smart and a good leader By putin taking a position that alex agrees with For the reason that i mean putin has a strategic reason to deny climate change in the same way very direct financial reason Exactly in the same way that these oil companies do absolutely. He has the exact same financial interest Yeah, and so because he doesn't want to lose these billions and trillions of dollars that he could be making if
Starting point is 01:15:50 sanctions were lifted uh He's super against climate change odd and because he takes that position alex already agrees with it He's sucked more into putin is a genius He's a great leader right this position that he already was flirting with of being very super into russia Is now just going fucking whole hog for full force. Yeah, wow Listen to this next clip. I say just coming. We got to have world government to save us Then it was global warming then it's climate change period of latimer putin has come out And said anthropogenic climate change is a geostrategic weapon curtain demo in force.com this big time because
Starting point is 01:16:31 russia's breaking with the globalists on every front They didn't go along with carbon taxes before and said they weren't sure it was real Now they're saying look it's meant to shut down all major industrial economies not controlled by the imf and world bank To have a major world leader who's made the world Bipolar again not unipolar in its power That's offensive to my people you want to say they have putin come out and say exactly what it is Is a devastating blow against the new world order? This is cause for celebration
Starting point is 01:16:58 And putin just went up another notch in my view because you know, I don't trust him and Nobody was part of and all the rest of the point is he's telling the truth. He says they want to break up our families They want to destroy our cultures. They want to get rid of our sovereignty. They want to override us They want to sabotage the human condition. This is a genetic takeover. I mean the russians do listen to this show I was told by the head of rt america Some stuff that just sounds so unbelievable, but who would have thought matt drudge would show up here You know, who would who would think top generals, you know, the former head of special forces has been on two different heads of special forces I mean, we have the big listeners and yes, the russian government listens to the show
Starting point is 01:17:34 Then I was told that by rt international one of their main heads I'll leave it at that in a skype interview where I was told it was a skype interview and it wasn't a skype interview Once they cut to me they started interrogating me in a big table with a bunch of top russians that had asking me questions And then they had been threatened and never had me back on rt by the u.s. government They were basically asking me who I was who I worked for how I could do certain things And they they were asking me if I was a u.s. government agent or who I work for and I said I work for liberty But that's the level I met we're like a james bond movie. It's not rt It's a big table in a government building with a bunch of guys staring at me
Starting point is 01:18:13 And I see them on tv sometimes it's like russian, you know leaders Putin listens to the show is the point and I'm not giving us all the credit But when the signal goes out that this is an anti-human shutdown program for austerity, it's game over for the new world order It's game over So we have to tell it like it is it's a plan to kill us It's a weapon system to selectively cut off the energy Do you understand what just happened?
Starting point is 01:18:41 Do you understand what he just admitted on air? It's fucking crazy. Do you do you realize? Yeah, that's fucked up He he just So I was interviewed by top russians and they turned me into an asset I should not have said that on air. He just admitted like basically that is where the compromise is Yeah, of course, and you know what happened. They literally shut off the camera and we're like, oh, we can use this guy Like that was that simple. You know what happened in that interview, too They told him that Putin listens to his show and that he's a genius
Starting point is 01:19:17 That's how they compromise people and it's easy through flattery. It's not hard That's how you make an asset out of someone like alex jones Steve pacenek said it on the last episode paranoid delusional people are super easy to manipulate That is what alex jones is. He just admitted on air that top russians tricked him into thinking he was having a skype interview with rt And then grilled him and debriefed him. That's insane. No, that's fine. This is game over. No, it's fine This is proof He it's proof that he's the worst spy in the history
Starting point is 01:19:55 I was debriefed by the german military and it's totally fine. I should not have said that I should not have said that on air. That's why i'm a bad spy. That's where that horn kicked him. Yeah When I heard that I was like I I just didn't know what to do. How do you deal with that? How do you deal with a guy who can be that open about it, too? Well, you keep him on the outside Right, you keep him on the uh, you don't tell him shit unless you and you you deal with like multiple layers of handlers Right, that's why like steve pacenek is clearly feeding him his narratives And then there's probably a third stage that gets him back to the kremlin or whatever
Starting point is 01:20:35 Right, you make it so alex jones doesn't think that the people who are feeding him narratives are the ones who are taking narratives from russia That way he's like no steve pacenek's just a great dude. He thinks i'm awesome because he flatters me every time he's on the show It's fucking nuts. This is so fucking obvious And the other thing that's interesting about that is that rt was in on it Yeah, of course the idea that they set up an interview with rt and then it's actually spies from high like high-end russians That means that rt Is way more of a state outlet than alex is willing to admit. No That's anti-globalist. No, this is so problematic
Starting point is 01:21:17 It is it is kind of weird. He's making the subtext text That's a big issue. Like the even the russian government is trying to be like no rt is a media outlet It's not a state sponsored propaganda outlet and he's just like hey, it's a state sponsored propaganda outlet And not only that they use it to cultivate people. Yeah, I know Like what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, you don't need an investigative journalist when one of the guys is whistleblowing by accident. Yeah, he is Proudly revealing that he is now officially an asset of the russian government. Well, that's the same thing that he does with his sources Yeah, he accidentally out it's donald trump jr. Actually, he does that stuff all the time
Starting point is 01:21:58 He can't help himself because he's on air for three fucking hours a day and he's Beaked out on his fucking supplements. Yeah that maybe should be regulated So he's fucking high out of his mind on supermail vitality and brain force and then he's just like I ain't talking about this time that I got fucking recruited The other piece of it that you need to unpack is I don't know if he realizes it Of course he doesn't like he's telling this story. I don't think he realizes how fucked up this story is I don't think he realizes what he revealed Is it is it's it like the only reason
Starting point is 01:22:32 Because that almost certainly has happened to uh Members of donald trump's campaign. Sure, which again, you are supposed to report that to the fbi. Yeah that way They can deal with that. There's a lot of there's a lot of possibilities that some of the people were willingly Cooperating with russian folk and then there's a lot of people who probably got sucked in by accident Yeah got tricked into a meeting or something like that and you are again supposed to report that to the fbi and alex should have Fucking reported that Absolutely
Starting point is 01:23:02 Just the base description that he's giving on air. Yeah, he fucking a hundred percent should have been like now listen I don't know what's going on But I got tricked and ended up talking to high level russian government officials They were grilling me about whether or not I work for the government. That's that's like When he talks about being in a james bond novel, he's kind of correct, but he's not james bond. No He's some real fucking stupid patsy. He's the limo driver for james. No, he's not even that He's somebody who gets flipped by the enemy. He's someone who gets flipped by gold finger or something like that It's so crazy. It's like homer simpson and scorpio now
Starting point is 01:23:43 I know that we could probably talk about that clip for an hour But it's more fun if we just play this next clip because it's even worse Let's continue here now shifting gears. Uh, putin. I I mentioned this last hour It's red linked up on info wars.com, but it really is ultra massive news putin Has come out and said man-made climate change is a geostrategic weapon To kill populations and destroy sovereign nations and to selectively shut down corporations Not part of the inside global cartel and the fact that putin's now talking about the exact reality is a
Starting point is 01:24:18 Devastating shot across the bow because russia obviously already knows all this But as more and more of this comes out as latin air putin becomes the alex jones of the world In fact, the only person I guess that could get bigger than me and being a conspiracy theorist That is reading documents knowing reality And exposing exactly what's going on would be a matt drudge But who could dwarf matt drudge is latin air putin So I guess it goes putin matt drudge alex jose That's the I'm like the the mini me now
Starting point is 01:24:51 Oh, no, this is really getting weird. It is very weird. It's very much. It's really getting weird I'm sure matt drudge probably doesn't want you bringing him into this So it's putin right shits in matt drudge's mouth right matt drudge shits in alex jones's mouth And alex jones works for russia now And so does matt drudge probably seems like it based on every piece of evidence that we can come up with They're clearly at least aligned in some way. Oh, of course And alex is externalizing that he's externalizing the network In terms of like saying that matt drudge again. He's latin air putin matt drudge me
Starting point is 01:25:28 He's making the subtext text. You're supposed to say this Under your breath. You're not supposed to full throat be like look at all these people who work for russia now Like a dude, you know what? I'm starting to realize is that the reason that he started to have the same guests on Every day now and I think that started in somewhere in 2016 or so The reason is because they need to keep a better eye on him and no one wants to listen to his show I think that's what's going on because stuff like this happens And if this happened a lot if breaks like this happened The the game would be up like people would be able to like, uh, do
Starting point is 01:26:05 Do you listen to alex jones? He admits to working for russia every day the game should be up The game is it should be up a long time if everybody would listen to this podcast the game is up Yeah, it's done. I can't believe that he would just say that Yeah, I can't believe that he would just go on air and be like I was gonna do an interview for rt. Yeah rt Lied to me at the behest of the government of the intelligence services I was debriefed by the intelligence service agents who then Gave me compliments. Yeah, and that's insane. And I'm sure that that Quote-unquote interview that he had with these these high-end russians was not a situation where they said
Starting point is 01:26:50 You're so right about everything. How are you so right? Yeah? But I'm sure they did say things like that in the cultivation and flattery process It's fucking absurd. They had to they had to have been all of them sitting there like trying hard not to laugh They were like, dude, we thought this was gonna be harder. Yeah, we thought you would be skeptical We thought you would we thought you would at least be like, hey, we I like america and instead you're like, nah Fuck yeah, I'm with you guys on fucking y2k. You said putin was a demon. Yeah, uh, and then since then you've been pretty Pretty skeptical of all authority Boy, this is easier than we thought
Starting point is 01:27:30 We thought you would we thought you'd be like, oh, this is a conspiracy and you might even hang up Obama should have just said alex jones was cool That's entirely that might have saved america. That's entirely possible Anyway, hey alex jones. I love what you're doing Let me give you some uh, let me give you some things that I would also love for you to be doing and that would be it So, uh This is followed up all this huge like russia shit is followed up with a long interview with dr. Group about liver shield They have a long of course. It's surreal. It's so surreal
Starting point is 01:28:06 This show is so weird because he's admitting to having you know light treason And then like I gotta get my hippie non-doctor to come in here and talk about the Liver stuff that makes green balls fall out of you. Hey guys I work for a different nation also green and black stones should come out of you all the time Like wait, what? And here's the chiropractor who made the formula. Yeah, what? Excuse me. Protect your liver. Also. Do whatever russia tells you to do. Anyways, moving on. Okay, moving on So there's a long interview there and then he has an interview with jim mars who is an old timey
Starting point is 01:28:43 Conspiracy theorist. He's apparently written a book about jfk. We talked about him in passing like a couple episodes back Maybe like 10 episodes back. Uh-huh. But he's in studio and uh, turns out he's fan of russia too Oh, yeah, get this only people like uh, alex and and some others Try to bring you the real news Uh, for example, uh, the the whole thing going on in in the ukraine A lot of people don't really understand that it's oh russia's making a bad move and oh because we're getting all this anti russian propaganda But if you're back off and look at it, essentially what happens would be like if we sent cia I mean the russians say take their intelligence service and come over here to texas and get a bunch of
Starting point is 01:29:27 Texans rolled up about let's secede from the union and I think we all know that's That's kind of actually happening anyway Uh, and then texas does say we want to secede and then the united states said, you know Say look you can't do that And uh, they would come and try to stop us right well, it's the same thing over there great We set up this uh separatist movement We armed them we egged them on and now when russia says you've always been a part of russia You can't do this now all of a sudden we're turning them into the aggressors. That is one of the most convoluted stupid
Starting point is 01:30:06 uh False versions of what's going on in ukraine. I've ever heard Also, let's take this piece out of it. Uh, the people who were trying to secede in california were working with russia Oh, yeah, and the guy who led that movement fled to russia Or moved however you want to the cal exit for a group of people So obsessed with saying that the civil war was a war of northern aggression Yeah, for him to all of a sudden be like no the united states was right We we we absolutely agree that the civil war should have ended and we should have been taken over
Starting point is 01:30:43 Just like russia should be how it that's fucking nuts. That's fucking insane. Well because because in something Because the area in uh, the ukraine in kremia is not Part of russia. No it never was it was part of the soviet union. Yes, but That doesn't exist anymore exactly and for a very good reason and the idea that jim marz is saying that we went over there Created an uprising and russia is just trying to get this area not to secede from russia It indicates to me A disrespect of truth and
Starting point is 01:31:24 An acceptance non-existence of the ukrainian people well and a complete acceptance of everything that is in line with russian narratives absolutely and On this exact episode where alex is admitting Contact with russian intelligence officers That's Fucked up the fact that he has almost every guest ends up having some weird connection with russia It's or at least espouses amazingly pro russia positions like jim marz here You know, that's an interesting that you know, i'm starting to think that jacari jackson didn't leave because of trump
Starting point is 01:31:59 He got fired because no russia. I'm starting to think that maybe he sensed How deeply this was a russian propaganda outlet and got out I'm thinking maybe that's the case. You think so. I'm not we should talk to jacari jackson I don't think if if either of my suspicions are true. I don't think he'd talk to anybody. Oh, yeah, and I would respect that because This this because he might wind up with a note tape to him that says call larry I don't want to laugh about his death because I like the guy But at the same time the image of anyone dying with a note that says call larry nickles is funny to me But um, yeah, I mean if if the suspicions that we're really starting to see are true
Starting point is 01:32:41 I think that anybody with actual information that could confirm stuff A what it might be a risk to their lives to come out with this. Oh, absolutely And I mean how many diplomats are going to die before we're like, oh, maybe they are going to kill you, you know Thankfully, most of those aren't in american soil, right? But uh, plenty of them in britain though strangely enough. Yeah Well, so the the easy argument against uh, anti russian sentiment, which is really high Um, uh, for obvious reasons Uh, is that america does the same shit back. Sure. Uh, you know and and the idea that it's like We're judging them for overthrowing nations is dumb
Starting point is 01:33:24 Uh, because we've overthrown plenty. Right. We fucked over plenty. We've had this debate on the show already Right, but my it is hypocritical, but it's different when it's being done to us, of course But my point is uh, the question that i'm asking is not just that it's that Would our intelligence services be that stupid? To to just grab somebody like is there a left-wing media in russia? Uh, uh, that is like some anti alex jones is Just Skyping with the cia I think that uh, the the uh, the the remnants of the kgb
Starting point is 01:34:04 Probably listen to a couple episodes and like we can just foam this in yeah, that's i don't think it's a dumbness on their part I think it's more like they just didn't have to worry who gives a shit. Yeah, even if it doesn't work Who cares? Yeah, exactly even if he gets on air the next day and screams about the russian's tried to cultivate me Who cares no one believes him? Yeah, it doesn't matter and even and it did work and even then who cares right? No one no one listened. No one took note of what we just played no one said anything about that All right, we gotta stop talking about this and move along. We got a lot to get through just bananas. So, uh, I don't have audio of this, but I might try and post the video of it because the um One of the narratives that alex is pushing on this day's episode here on october 30th
Starting point is 01:34:45 Is that the epa came out with a video like a parody satire kind of video where they're breaking pumpkins They're like smashing pumpkins and uh, you know a climate change is fueled by Mass farms and the creating pumpkins for a novelty purpose one time a year Uh, it does cause a lot of co2 emissions Uh, and so the way they were like we're gonna fight back and destroy these pumpkins. Uh, it's satire. It's stupid. It's dumb Who cares? It's a government agency trying to be funny and that's never gonna be good But still better than alex jones making a parody of the parody. No He made a video
Starting point is 01:35:23 He made a video with buckley where they they were going around and uh, buckley is like his egor and bringing him pumpkins to destroy And then he starts rambling about how like bring me baby pumpkins. I want to kill babies. It's it's terrible But as I was watching it, I'm like, this is as bad as high school projects that I did Yeah, and he's doing this and millions of people are watching. I was like, man, I shouldn't have quit I shouldn't have quit doing sketch stuff. Sometimes it's just you gotta keep doing it. Yeah Sometimes you just gotta keep going. It's like this is low quality bullshit. It doesn't even matter if you're good or bad Just keep on doing it. So the 31st halloween Sawin
Starting point is 01:35:59 Yes, yeah, that's on a that's on a saturday this year. So there's no show November 1st Uh, alex jones is hung over probably so david knight hosts, of course and we come back on november 2nd And uh, here's where alex is at and then they have the nerve The nerve the globalists do to claim that russia is there destabilizing things it is so criminal But if you look at the current situation The gray areas controlled by Are being defeated And so that's why us special forces are being put in to be basically human shields
Starting point is 01:36:37 Hoping that the russians end up killing some us trips And then they can get on the news and say you deserve it to be now attacked and you deserve to leave Syria and and and when we're now going to start bombing the Assad forces russia and you better pull out Hoping the american people get all stirred up and support that but i think they are Going too far. I think they're jumping the shark. So, uh, sorry about that. There's a little glitch there When he's talking about the map, that's isis. Uh, it's just that's That's isis. Uh, support, uh, uh controls a certain amount of area
Starting point is 01:37:12 So russia's great russia's great and i love what they're doing in syria supporting Assad murdering his own people And the huge fan and the narrative that he's pushing there is That the globalists are putting our forces in hoping that a russian kills one of them in order for us to attack them Yeah, so because they're their evil plot is to destroy the world and russia specifically Exactly. So is they're the only country that's fighting against the globalists, right? Which i'm sure the intelligence agents told him in that uh, of course, of course The other thing are you an american agent or a globalist the other thing that's important, uh, to point out is later He goes so far as to say that if russians bomb americans and kill them. It's obama's fault
Starting point is 01:37:55 He takes agency and guilt away from russians And point puts it on obama because you put those forces there in order to bait the russians into attacking them It's fucking convoluted as hell And it's he's not supporting america at all and now granted i'm not for war either I don't want right. I don't want troops killing anybody right I certainly think that we have no place and a lot of the conflicts we're in Now at the end of the day Sometimes you do have to step in and stop atrocities from happening, right?
Starting point is 01:38:25 It's very complicated But the more the more you read about foreign policy the more you're like Um, nobody knows what to do. Yeah, nobody has any idea. What's the best thing to do? Everybody who thinks they know what the best thing to do is fucking insane Everybody who does something winds up fucking things up more everything and nobody knows what's going on and everybody's fucking insane Like that's what foreign policy is the further thought that i have when obama was president His foreign policy made as much sense as it could Now our foreign policy is non-existent and the further thought that i have when i look at this stuff is like thank god
Starting point is 01:39:03 I didn't choose this as a career path. Yeah, thank god. I'm not mis-mess. Yeah. Um, so we're gonna go into this next clip Um, and it's about uh immigrants and stuff and i want uh to be clear That this is an instance of alex jones repeating very clearly russian propaganda By the way, if you put up on tv screen for radio listeners, you can go to info wars.com We have the map up on screen there at info wars.com forward slash show You can see the areas controlled by islamic state From the start of their quote invasion a year and a half ago until now That's just a rebranding of al-qaeda under a new flag. No, it's not the same flag different different men is fighting against isis
Starting point is 01:39:46 And you notice that that conduit goes up into the north out of iraq And that's where the quote refugees come in from all over the world radical islamis has traveled to iraq They're allowed in and then they just simply the iraqi government admits this Travel up into syria and then travel from there as refugees into europe That's why upwards of 80 of the quote refugees are under the age of 30 And get off the trains and form up in military formations and follow their leaders 30 year old on average military officers Once they get to refugee centers
Starting point is 01:40:25 They are then released and quote disappear by the thousands every day into the european culture Not true not true at all But also alex is really messing up the difference between average and median That's one of the things that he's messing up when it comes to these ages Right, so if you want to say like the average is 30 Or you know that means the 12 year olds Count as under 30, you know that right? Yeah, you know children count as under 30 It's strange that so many children would want to flee from certain death. Yeah
Starting point is 01:40:57 But the reason that I say that this is russian propaganda is because I've been doing a little bit of looking into The exact nature of this anti immigrant Propaganda that's been going on and from The what I can tell And the sources that I've been able to find Russia is very clearly Trying to make the problem of migration worse They're doing this to destabilize and turn people against each other in europe
Starting point is 01:41:27 In order to make populations distrust each other and sometimes they're they're like Sometimes their propaganda campaigns are super obvious what they're up to Like there was a russian propaganda attack to dutch referendum to create a trade deal with ukraine As putin obviously was interested in isolating the ukraine to make it weaker and more likely to fall into russian power There's an article about this In amsterdam a month before the vote. I met dutch officials who seemed openly afraid of the far right media They didn't want to be denounced or mocked in the tabloids or shouted at by thugs in the street The government's majority is small. I was told sure there are lies being told they said but we don't want to take the risk of correcting them
Starting point is 01:42:03 So that is one instance of very clear influence that politicians know is happening But they can't fight back against it because of the radical people who will Make their lives fucking miserable if they do right that is not so much about the immigrants But that is about trying to destabilize and isolate ukraine In terms of the immigrants there's an interesting case study about this girl named lisa. Are you aware of this at all? Huh, okay, so i'm gonna read from this article in nato magazine about One of nato magazine. Yeah, it's one of the first very niche magazine Are you sure it's not a zine? I don't know. Is it independently produced in san francisco? What are you talking about? They did it's from uh
Starting point is 01:42:48 It is in a factory down south. That's where it's produced So they uh This case of lisa it's called the lisa case Is one of the first instances where people can really directly see exactly the mechanisms that russia was using To promote a fake story directed at demonizing immigrants, especially muslim immigrants Which is actually kind of bullshit because if you look at the statistics russia's not afraid of muslims They don't hate muslims They if you look at the entirety of eurasia, they have the highest percentage population of muslims
Starting point is 01:43:20 Like in europe the highest is 7.8. I believe in france russia has 10 percent of their population is is muslim And we've only got like two percent something like that maybe even less They don't care about the muslim part about it. They're not as bigoted as alex even They care about making the rest of the world scared of invading hordes. They're just exploiting our own current bigotry Yes, that's all you have to do. So here's from this article The case of lisa dominated the headlines and impacted on german public discourse for two weeks in january 2016 The 13 year old russian german girl had gone missing for 30 hours and was reported by first russian television To have been raped by migrants the story turned out to be fake in parentheses
Starting point is 01:44:03 The german police were able to establish that she had been with a friend that night Jesus fucking christ But the fake story was intensively reported on russian domestic and foreign media and ended in diplomatic tensions between Germany and russia In the lisa case we see evidence for the first time of several of the different russian elements that influence and are That are described in this article working in the coordinated way So there's bullet points here a journalist from the first russian tv channel picked up the case of the russian german girl And brought it to the main news in russia russian foreign media like rt sputnik and rt dutch reported on the case
Starting point is 01:44:40 Social media as well as right-wing groups distributed the information on the internet Demonstrations were organized via facebook involving representatives of the german russian minority dutchland rosen as well as neo nazi groups Who would have guessed russian foreign media in germany reported from these demonstrations which brought it to the german mainstream media Finally at the top political level russian foreign minister sirgi lavarov made two public statements about his concern about the inability of the russian police Excuse me the german police and legal system to take such cases seriously because of political correctness Sounds a lot like alex sounds very similar as a result of the lisa case And the different russian activities in the context of the ukrainian conflict
Starting point is 01:45:22 We're able to see a shift in germany from the dominance of There must be a translation issue here We're seeing a shift in germany from the dominance of the economy over politics to a dominance of politics over the economy russian has become a russia has become a security risk The relations are increasingly politicized and securitized Securitized So then there was an interview with a guy, uh, a hungarian spy named pharynk katerin This is a gentleman who after probably that's a fake name. That's a it's definitely not a malaysian name. I'll tell you that
Starting point is 01:45:57 So this is a guy who broke cover to tell the independent about how he had closely monitored and observed how russia attempts to aggravate the migration crisis By spreading false stories He was quoted as saying when it comes to the events in cologne or other sexual offenses They, meaning the russians are active in emphasizing that the german or western authorities and the media are attempting to cover up these crimes I mean, yeah, sure. They don't exist Sure, they didn't happen. No, some some crimes did happen. No, no, no. I mean this one particularly right The lisa case. Yeah, I mean they are trying to cover up that it it didn't happen though Right, they want to make sure that you know it it
Starting point is 01:46:37 Did but this is a this is a hundred percent in line with the narrative that alex jones spins about migrants Absolutely, he always talks about how these pc governments in europe are covering up rape statistics He talks about sweden all the time. That's another russian prong attack right because they want to destabilize lapland in order to be able to take out sweden norway and shit so This this idea that these governments are unable to take care of their own people is to get people against their governments Create political strife political conflict that can either get a government unable to deal with external crises Or make them ripe for the plucking That is something that russia has been doing even beyond
Starting point is 01:47:25 If you go back further even before they were involved in like trying to fuck with our election Oh, of course, they were doing this immigration. They were doing trial runs Of course they did so now here's where it gets where the we're the big get for them. Here's where it gets interesting uh Nigel farage has been very guilty of perpetuating a lot of these uh stories that end up Nigel farage should be Fucking murdered they um, he's he's super guilty of pushing a lot of the exact same narratives that end up being false Farage echoed the rhetoric of the sweden democrats a political party that has risen in influence by marshaling fear of asylum seekers And advocating for strict immigration policies critics like the sweden democrats
Starting point is 01:48:07 Suspect that the government is colluding with the mainstream media to hide damning statistics of supposed of a supposed rape epidemic Because he calls uh sweden and malmo in particular the rape capital of europe now sweden democrats is a misleading name They are a proto fascist organization. I was about to say of course they are. Yeah, nice name though Yeah, uh, I did like how like how in australia the the liberals are actually the worst people on the fucking planet Yeah, I did a bunch of research into this and it turns out that the reason that rape statistics are kind of high even though Actually, they've gone down Just like crime all across america since the 70s, right? But one of the reasons that if you track it from like 2005 to current the numbers have gone up very high
Starting point is 01:48:50 And one of the reasons is because in 2005 Sweden voted to expand what they consider rape And so they have a very wide net of Inappropriate sexual behaviors that get classified as rape. Yeah, so from 2005 to present the number looks like it's going up when in reality it's just That they consider more things in that category. Of course now further. They have a very interesting legal system Uh in sweden, it turns out now. This is this is from a swedish source Uh, they believe women while there's that that's that's a big problem. So let's say that uh, this is the example that they gave
Starting point is 01:49:31 if um, oh a woman like a like a wife Uh, that's the example they used if a wife Uh calls the police and she has a diary where she has in her diary 400 instances of spousal rape that her husband committed against her The police will consider that 400 crimes So each incident is considered a crime instead of one. Yeah, because that's what it is, right? But if one call comes in like that and this person who was discussing this is like this has happened before
Starting point is 01:50:03 It makes their statistics look incredibly fucked up. Oh Okay, so when whenever there's one victim and a bunch of offenses Or one perpetrator and a ton of offenses or one perpetrator or I'm sorry one victim and 10 Uh perpetrators it can make things look like there is more actual acts than there actually are Which I think is probably good. Yeah, I think it's absolutely good I think it's I think it's positive, but it does open itself up to being in because she was she was raped 400 times Yes, and that is I mean, I'm sure this is an example But that is that is the point that is what should be considered and he should be
Starting point is 01:50:45 In jail for 400 lifetimes, right? So what the the the issue though is the because that is how they classify things and how they keep statistics It's really easy for people on the outside to make Really misleading claims about uh, You know about their statistics. So because a foreign country does something differently You assume they do it the same and then you are easily manipulated by it Russia perpetuates these narratives and pins it on immigrants and these refugees And people like Nigel Farage and alex jones pick up on them and perpetuate them further
Starting point is 01:51:22 Yeah, that is a clear pipeline that's going on the dumb are so easy to manipulate quote steve pacenic It is fucking insane Like all of this stuff just like the uh, the crack epidemic in the 80s Right and how that was used to demonize black people based on an agenda that old fucking white men had Like all of that stuff is done So specifically and so and in such a targeted manner to the people who are dumb enough to believe it And it's just so fucking sad. It's just really sad that there are so many people who you would otherwise think are Normal fine people and then they're just manipulated by this dumb shit and become monsters
Starting point is 01:52:08 Yeah, like all of this all of this stuff like Nigel Farage is a fucking sociopath who knows Who knows that everything he says is bullshit is a lie and is going to hurt the people that he's telling it to He knows this. He is an evil human being. Yeah, the people who buy his shit are not evil. No, they're dumb That's why we always try and make the distinction between the russians and russia. Yeah The government is evil. Yeah, the people are generally good. So we got we got to hit the gas We got a lot to get through we got a lot to get through right here is a clip of alex jones defending assad And so here's the cia trying to launch a nerve gas attack through their surrogates But their surrogates are so out of control and so stupid. They run around screaming a la akbar
Starting point is 01:52:57 Praising you know praising the god of death or whatever that they're nerve-gassing markets Hades And then our media goes a sod nerve gas the markets And a sod's like i'm giving all my chemicals up. I'll do whatever you want. I'll even step down out of power Just take the Saudi arabian troops out of the country. That was a great press conference. He wants to move to england and retire Yeah, he was trying to transition the government from his father a dictator out of that We all know that uh a lot of dictators Abdicate power willingly. Oh no, of course tons. He just wants to retire to england. He'll he just wants to give up all of those billions of dollars and that
Starting point is 01:53:35 Total control over his country and his family has had for forever. He wants to give up his ability to gas Detractors. Oh, he hates that. Also. I looked at he's like baner. He just wants to step down I looked into this a bunch too and uh, all of the accusations that uh, The gassings were a false flag come from very dubious sources and most have been thoroughly debunked This video that Alex murdered his own people this video that alex is talking about most likely was I don't I couldn't track it down I don't know specifically what he's talking about. Uh-huh, but I'm 99 percent certain. He's taking it out of context I'm I'm guessing it's from something else. Yeah, maybe even in a different country and alex has no idea So, uh, here's another damning fucking clip now. I want to get into some really big news here
Starting point is 01:54:21 With russia that ties into all this and I want to get into The move to arrest people that deny that climate change is man-made And how that ties into what putin's doing I don't mean to be obsessed with putin. He's just involved in everything now and almost always on the right side One of the only world leaders actually telling the truth I see the comments all over even on mainstream publications comment sections that from all over the world that putin is hope That's a that's a quote. I see more and more putin is hope
Starting point is 01:54:51 And it doesn't say much about putin does it what does it say about us that we have such Scum running our country and running the west alex love it or leave it I mean putin doesn't let radical islamics into the country. Yes, he does putin pays people to have kids Putin doesn't teach five-year-olds how to give blowjobs. I mean, I'm sorry to use that word people to kill kids too. Yeah Putin's cut people's taxes Putin's promoting christianity Putin's fighting al-qaeda They've been loosening gun laws in russia
Starting point is 01:55:24 That just shows how unbelievably pathetic this country is How overrun was complete trash. We are you know who those people are who are saying putin is hope in message boards are bots No alex's alex is complete regular old folk alex is completely falling for their prong The other prong of their influence campaign. Yeah seeing all these pro russian bots pop up and saying putin is hope This is pathetic
Starting point is 01:55:55 It's not pathetic. It's it's treasonous Why didn't That's that's probably going to be the biggest question uh for obama's Presidency his legacy. Yeah, why didn't he do anything about this? I think um, I don't know That the to to sort of deal with that question. We end up in wild speculation. Yeah, but I would guess that You don't want to start a war that might be one piece of it, right? I think another piece of it might be um Um Threats like back back room threats that have been made. I don't know
Starting point is 01:56:32 I don't I don't know. I don't think we'll know for another good 10 years probably what the reality was why Why more wasn't done to combat this because it's very clear now Yeah, and I wonder how I I would really like to know how obama feels about this. I'm sure not great. I would hope not Otherwise now I do believe in globalists. Yeah So obama's like, yeah, of course, I let him take over like wait, wait, what? Yeah, excuse me obama. I'm sorry. Wait, wait, what? He made me hopeful. Yeah Hey, I just wanted to become the caliphate. All right. I just wanted to take over the middle east So as they're talking about this they flash up on screen a shepherd fairy, but putin
Starting point is 01:57:11 They flash up on the screen a picture of putin as that hope image of obama man. Yeah, it's crazy So now we get into a little bit of trump stuff Here we go. Uh, so our investigation is back on track. Maybe Donald trump by the way we have video of this can play next hour Has challenged obama saying as syria policy's bad news Putting trips on the ground in harm's way and the answer is back russia and bombing them Join them in targeted strikes, which the russians have asked for and karsten has come out defending obama's policy By the way, karsten is a super smart guy. They attack him and say he's not really aware of politics
Starting point is 01:57:52 And I think he's busy being a brain surgeon all day, you know, he he he is Not as informed as some of the other candidates, but Or me I think he's better than hillary clinton, but uh, it is not obama obviously in this policy that's a big strike again against karsten along with his forced inoculations bs Trump is just better in Triplicate, I mean if trump delivers on what he acts like he is he'll be a great president Light years better than hillary
Starting point is 01:58:25 The problem is I think he could be double crossing as he could be working with the bushes or hillary But he's so big he double crosses them. I just can we just have somebody that want to wreck the country apparently not uh, but you see there that Trump is indicating alignment with pootin and this makes alex warm to trump He is now instead of saying I don't trust him. He's adding on a second layer of Where before it was I'm afraid he's going to double cross us now He's saying but he might double cross them even if he is a mole. Yeah, it's insane. I don't it's insane. I don't know how to There's this combination of
Starting point is 01:59:04 exhaustion Yeah, that I think and I think it's hitting just about all of us Uh, or or at least it's really starting to tear me apart where it's like these people are Always going to believe that trump is a better president than hillary would have been. Yeah, which is objectively and truly Irrational yeah at this point. You're just in denial and we can say that even with uh, you know some critiques of hillary in our hearts Plenty of critiques of hillary those things are not contradictory positions
Starting point is 01:59:38 But it is just it is beyond it. So now we're just dealing with so many people who have to spend so much energy In denial. Yeah, either that or they just stop paying attention. Yeah, like those are the only two ways to go about it So my exhaustion is just like I get it You're done. You have no further you you've got nothing more to say Because you are now completely and utterly irrational. I can't talk to you I can't debate with you because there's nothing you have nothing The the reality is too overwhelming. It's just like now
Starting point is 02:00:14 There are three hurricanes hitting our fucking coastlines and people are like, whoa, whoa Let's not talk about climate change right now. Isn't the time. Let's not talk about climate change No, we do that all the time like you have to work so hard. Don't politicize the issue Yeah, you it's not politics. It's the world being destroyed. This is no longer a politics situation It never fucking was you have murdered your children. That is what you have done to everybody who's who's Like my dad still denies climate change still thinks that You know, trump is a great president and it's like here's what you're here's what you're really in denial about If you actually stop and accept the fact that
Starting point is 02:01:00 By your actions and by your votes You have essentially contributed to the deaths of millions of people specifically Your kids right If you do that it the weight has to be overwhelming That's probably why you don't want to do it Of course it has to it has to all of a sudden and like the idea of accepting responsibility accepting a personal responsibility
Starting point is 02:01:26 For what is essentially going to be a a large-scale human genocide Is too much. Well, of course you would retreat into denial I didn't think about the flip side of this for alex to now flip on trump is for him to recognize that he was used Yeah, and i'm guessing the weight would be not the same, but it would be very heavy for him as well As soon as he gets off the trump train. He's got to look back on everything and be like I Was used by russia And he can't do that can't just like your dad can't
Starting point is 02:01:56 I got to skip a bunch of stuff because we are gonna fucking end up at a five hour podcast How many how many clips did you cut you got a bunch because we got a lot of fucking deep shit like that? Okay, we have evidence that he's been debriefed by russian intelligence. Yeah, and then this episode is gonna end with like the I think We're done hammer in the coffin. Yeah, but i'm gonna skip two clips uh because they are Alex tells a story of his halloween party Why would you skip that one because they're long we don't need to get into the deep stuff
Starting point is 02:02:28 They're long. Let's hear about halloween parties. They're long, but i'll give you the short version He wears a he was debriefed by russia. He wears a captain's hat Uh and uh two people come up to him Maybe three it's unclear come up to him and accuse him of having a nazi outfit on it's not true at all The four i i kept there's two of them because he tells the story twice and it's very different each time But in the first version he says that some white girl came up to him and was crying because Every costume she's could have worn would have been accused of being racist that makes sense did not happen There are so many of those this character is mysteriously absent from the second version of the story
Starting point is 02:03:07 But it becomes multiple people who say this to him I remember when I dressed as a disney princess right and people were like, oh That's racist to imagination The other thing uh that we take away the only thing I regret we're gonna drop is that we find out that buckley does some dj Which is uh, oh, oh now i'm in now i'm in with buckley buckley's spinning A little bit, so we'll skip that buckley's on the ones and twos this clip We can't skip and it's the end of the november second episode that we're on here And uh, it's just fun because it's what happens when alex jones gets prank called
Starting point is 02:03:42 Let's go to steven in california. You're on the air than G and others go ahead Hey alex welcome Calling from communist california here and i'm a first time caller. I just wanted to say how much I love your product Well, thank you brother Am on dna for supermail vitality Deep cleanse survival shield Appropriate filter for over the past year
Starting point is 02:04:04 I'm just so amazed by the accuracy of the information that you put out I've been listening for like a year and a half now And like everything that you've said is just come to fruition like the surveillance plans Well, sir, that was always partially declassified. They would just say it didn't exist nationally and say they were flying saucers But they got blimps all over the country and and yeah Uh, it's it's amazing. They meant it's a secret blimp with the army watching us Yeah, and now that we have a u.s. Maybe missile instructor and many other experts confirming that the earth is a flat and motionless plane Uh, you're being sorry. You're being sarcastic that that's a prank call
Starting point is 02:04:40 That's an ad hominem thing where people that's there's seminar calls on that where you call in And then you say, oh, you're so accurate, you know, and then I had someone to earth flat. It's a standard tactic Uh, so I have a couple thoughts about this. Yes I think it's it's possible that was a prank call It's not possible that he's being trained by the institutes or whatever to do this Right or the whatever he calls it. Right talking about like the globalist, right? But it's also entirely possible that was not a prank call. That's what i'm saying that is entirely possible That is 100 100 percent a possible thing. Yeah, I don't because there's no there's no smirk on that voice
Starting point is 02:05:17 No, and the tone doesn't change. No, it seems like he really just wants to talk about the earth being flat And he loves alex jones alex doesn't want to recognize that there's a big overlap between those communities The crazy people and people who like him There is a massive venn diagram overlap. Yeah, I would I would suggest there is a just one circle Yeah, there's a big old circle So we skip the third and the fourth because I don't give a shit. They're just boring Uh in on the third uh, I actually he actually has um
Starting point is 02:05:49 He has an interview with michael savage, but I don't care. It's it's unsubstantial to the matter at hand So we We're we're in so deep that we're skipping an interview with savage. Yeah, uh, and then on the fourth Uh, james oakief has a new video out Uh, we're not gonna play any of it project veritas, baby He uh, he has some lady who went around to a couple colleges and tried to get the uh people who work in the student help services Offices to shred the constitution uh
Starting point is 02:06:20 Because uh Why are these people so dumb if you actually watch the videos? First of all, they're crazy edited, but at the same time the this girl goes in and she's like I found the constitution that someone handed to me to be triggering and you see the people's faces like And there's like how can I how can I be catering to this person? But at the same time not be crazy. I want to be supportive because that's who I am That's my job. I want to support you. Yes. I am I can't just Even even though I would be on the right
Starting point is 02:06:55 I would at least get a talking to if I said Fuck off. Yeah, you idiot the shredding of the constitution is always the girl who is the mark or is the plant It's always her idea and people are like, I guess It doesn't prove anything. It doesn't prove that the universities want to get rid of the constitution. It's also nonsense It's not the constitution. It's a copy There's we we've got so many of those right but at the same time I get the idea of like just being close to buck burning or whatever Who cares? It's not important. The other thing that alex goes off on on this episode that I thought was seen
Starting point is 02:07:28 I would be funny if she she handed her a kindle with the constitution on it shred it. Could you shred this? I'll just keep it. I'll just keep this kindle fine So the other thing he does is he goes on a long rant about how men are the defense mechanism for women And the womb women's bodies create men in order to be protecting of them. Uh, it's very weird Kill kill me. It's a very it's very. Kill me dan. It's very weird, but it's also really interesting how sexist it is Because it's sexist in a truly insane way. Yeah like like no because it's it's the sexism of uh forced chivalry in some ways because it's like this idea that Implied in what he's saying is that women who hate men are rejecting their help
Starting point is 02:08:15 Like these these bold ikes and what have you they are they are rejecting the natural way that is men On a biological level are just created in order to protect women That is basically Then why are they so bad at it? Uh, I don't know. Why is it that they do all the violence to the women? It's it's interesting that you know Biologically if we were made to protect women, uh by god, right? Why is it his system winds up with so much domestic abuse and murder? It's very confusing and now alex is He I think it's one of those peyote moments for him because he's just getting out there
Starting point is 02:08:53 It's super weird Then he has another he has an interview with a guy about china easing its one child policy And uh, it's interesting on one level and then it turns into a whole thing about relative racial birth birth rates There it is. There we go. There we go. White people aren't white people aren't reproducing enough. That's a big narrative Yeah, so that that goes on throughout that. I just skipped that whole episode because it's really not worth it uh, so we get on to the fifth and uh, alex spends the first Long period of the show uh talking about how robert rodriguez and quentin tarantino suck because they don't like him And how they're globalists. I guess sure then he has an interview with ron paul
Starting point is 02:09:33 and I feel like quentin tarantino should really transcend alex jones Right, I think like alex jones should still be like look Pulp fiction was great. He actually does say that. Okay Of course, but but it's in the context of he's like pulp fiction was great I prefer reservoir dogs and that's why quentin tarantino sucks. He's he's like he made one good movie. Come on. Yeah But uh, so he has an interview with ron paul and this ends up being said What do you make of putin coming out and saying man make global warming is nothing but a global government tax to wreck nation states
Starting point is 02:10:07 Now the hungarian prime ministers come out and said the treasonous conspiracy to marginalize nation states Opening their borders more and more I mean, I read the russian news every day. It sounds like it's libertarian or something. That's really scary when the foreign press Sounds more americana than america Yeah, that is a little bit scary. I bet it is I bet I read the russian news every day and it's americana. It's so american that americana is starting to get weaved in I love that. Don't you remember trump slogan? Uh make make america russia again. Yeah, basically that's fucking ridiculous. Yeah, and uh the fact that uh ron paul isn't like
Starting point is 02:10:49 Hey, fuck off man, and there's nothing wrong with reading the russian news every day No, but but if you believe everything that russian news tells you every day, and it's a problem Why is it that russia? And it's such it's such bullshit that you can have mainstream media is lying to you But russia's mainstream media is telling you the truth all the time because it already agrees with the dumb shit you believe Fucking think and he pulls in hungary hungary's leader as like backup It's like that dude is closely aligned with putin. Yeah, he's like mini putin You know, that's why I always back up all of my positions with erdogan told me right totally fine
Starting point is 02:11:28 So at the end of this episode alex just I don't know maybe he wanted to leave early or something But he just replays the entire matt drudge interview weeks past when it happened I I don't know why he did that because he's got such a hard on for matt drudge Yeah, so uh the november 6th episode is also kind of lame He has a long interview with peter schiff where they talk about his dad dying in prison And uh, you know rest in peace. I'm sorry your dad died, but uh, he was not a political prisoner And he was he was uh, he's a he's a criminal He also alex also spends a whole the crimes spends a whole lot of time talking about how david cross sucks
Starting point is 02:12:03 Because I think he uh david cross insulted him at some point. Okay. I don't know Uh, uh, also ben karson is done But did he also did he also do the thing where he's like Mr. Show was great. All right. I think he mr. Show was great. I think it's actually all about run runny run I think that's what he's mad about look I just had high hopes for it and it didn't turn out to be as good as I thought I was gonna be now Now j johnson's still great. Yeah. Yeah, um, you know ben karson is done more paul of tompkins, uh, Right and get in there, but that's fine a lot of jokes were cut
Starting point is 02:12:35 Look, we can riff all day But ben karson's officially done on this episode because it has come out that he lied about having a scholarship at west point And so that's it. He's done alex has precluded him from being a possible candidate Which really just leaves trump. He was like, okay We can't let ben karson be president. Let's make sure he's the, uh secretary of housing and urban Development now look at the you know, I looked at the the when people dropped out Uh chronology and at this point, I think only like rick perry and lindsay gram had dropped out
Starting point is 02:13:08 Like everyone is still in the mix. Yeah, well if trump is the leader everybody is still in the mix Yeah, and no one like uh, no one is even close to trump at this point Right and so the idea that alex had made it a dichotomy of trump or karson even though he loves rand paul And wishes rand paul was up there. Yeah, but ted cruz is not like even Super in the running because even alex knows that ted cruz is a giant piece of shit. Yeah, he's a shithead like yeah You can't look you can support ted cruz all you want, but you look at him. You're like that's a slimy monster I don't need any of that shit and but now that ben karson's done it really implicitly means that Trump is really the only game in town that alex can go to especially because rand is no rand was never there
Starting point is 02:13:50 No, also on this episode. We found out that one of alex jones' ancestors created dr. Pepper. Oh, that makes sense Not sure if that's true. I buy it. Uh, but i'll believe it Uh, the only clip I have from this episode in the same way that I believe that uh, ben karson had a scholarship to west point Yeah, uh, the only clip that I took from this episode is alex accidentally revealing uh, sort of his workflow Go against whatever the new world order agenda is Just as a default and then intellectually I can see all the reasons for it So if you uh, aren't understanding what he's saying there He just instantly goes against whatever this imaginary group of globalists are for in his head and then later rationalizes it
Starting point is 02:14:30 Yep, that's what he does. That's how he creates his positions. That's the best way to do things, right? That's not complete start with a feeling and then say or do anything to justify that feeling. That is not at all Insane no, no, no, that's rational thought So, um, that is on the sixth and then we go, uh, the seventh is saturday And we show back up on november 8th. It's a sunday and it's time for a launch of a new soft narrative Yeah sundays or when he pitches the stuff out there and uh, it's like he's workshop and stuff Uh, and here's an open mic. Here's how he begins on sunday The conflagration of news the way things are aligning the perfect storm that's unfolding economically culturally politically militarily
Starting point is 02:15:16 Astrophysically what? Is not really legendary And they're having a major u.n Conference to openly bring in world government in december We're now about a month and a half out from that week-long conference beginning The conference is so important that france who lobbies to keep all the eu borders open We'll be closing its borders Coming up in about a week throughout this period because they don't want anybody to come in and cause a disruption
Starting point is 02:15:49 During the formation of the open planetary government You notice they've passed the tpp Four and a half weeks ago in line with this. We only friday got the full text of it or thursday got the full text of it This is a big deal Vladimir putin is going to be attending and he will be the only major world leader that that tells you How sewn up things are at the top of the pyramid Who will reportedly say it is a planned destroy nation states starve over a billion people? And selectively bankrupt energy companies not controlled by the globalist, which is exactly what the plan is
Starting point is 02:16:27 Putin came out Two weeks ago and said this he came out again last week and said it He said he didn't buy it completely years ago. Of course. He knew full well what it was But now russia is under such attack and so encircled Uh, and they're trying to destroy the energy systems of russia and europe for that matter That putin is telling like it is and it is a big deal. This is about the paris climate talks That's uh the formation of world government Very frustrating
Starting point is 02:16:59 Would you have predicted i'm very angry would you i'm very angry would you have predicted dan? i'm very you know how when you get really angry and you you just start fucking Just like a fucking i'm i want to murder everybody. Uh, i just can't stop muttering. I just can't fucking do this shit Yeah, it's crazy. I'm losing my goddamn. We're all dying. Yeah, we're all dying because of dumb people. Yep fuck so, uh This is about the paris climate talks and uh here in this next clip alex And these fucks don't even they still don't care. Nope. They still don't fucking care They're gonna do everything they can to avoid paying for the destruction that they've caused
Starting point is 02:17:39 And they're gonna do everything possible to ensure it continues happening. Totally. I don't understand how this is fucking Possible unless you're a psychopathic serial killer or if you've been lied to and you believe that it's the creation of world Government that will lead to totalitarianism and the starvation of a billion people according to the studies that have been done by lord Monkton one or another alex jones is other stupid guests. I can't fucking i can't deal with this shit. You are murdering us i'm not Not you. I'm just but it's just I We don't we don't deserve continued existence dead human beings should be gone. We should just be gone put a pin in it
Starting point is 02:18:18 I've always i've stated that i've been a soft. No on white genocide now I'm a full yes on humans need to go you're gonna join the vehemence movement the voluntary human extinction movement Absolutely, uh put a pin in it because in this next clip alex jones He starts by talking about uh globalist plots and what have you but then it turns into a weird aggressive like a I know you globalists are listening kind of short short and it's sort of uh man going crazy I know the globalists are listening putin. How you doing? I know the globalists are listening right uh putin I really could use a golf uh weekend. Anyways the globalists I think he thinks that everyone who's not an info warrior isn't a vowed globalist
Starting point is 02:19:03 I think that's what he thinks let just listen to this. It's fucked up and to not let humans develop naturally You'll argue there is no natural development. There's no unnatural mutation. I've heard it all from the ibm executives and the rest of them Okay, I know what you're gonna say before you think it Talking to people out there that buy into all this crap Because you went to some meeting at a university and got padded on the head because you you you you think you're part of the crew now Instead of going to a meeting with the russians and getting padded on the head and thinking you're part of the crew now Projecting a little bit a little bit there. Uh, so just a little bit. Also. He refers to the group A couple times. Yeah, and because that's actually the uh sentient beings
Starting point is 02:19:46 That make up dr. Group right the flies The sentient group of flies. We are the group No, because I've listened to so much of the show. I know exactly what he's talking about He's talking about the 45 group, which is the group that roger stone steve pacanik are in And uh, so when he talks about the this idea that you went to some meeting and people padded you on the head and complimented You made you think that you're part of the group. That's exactly what his life is He was flattered by russian intelligence and now he's been brought in by steve pacanik Into this organization that is trying to promote donald trump as president for the interests of a foreign country
Starting point is 02:20:23 And they've made him feel like he's a part of it. He's a part of the group Right. This is all just and by and the way that they do that is they made him They made him feel like they were part of his group right and uh, which is so Fucking easy. It's so easy. It should be hard. You saw that prank caller do it. It should be hard. Maybe prank caller. Yeah Yeah, but you see like uh, this is psychologically speaking Alex trying to deal with what's happening to him by saying it's what his enemies are going through Right and his enemies are people who listen to his show that aren't on board. I guess here pretty much. Let's finish this You idiots i'm talking to new listeners that serve the establishment
Starting point is 02:21:08 You think you're gonna prey on your fellow humans and ascend to the next level That's 101. Are they still listening as a Rule the universe that you're gonna be absolutely brought down for what you've done Who's there you people are the opposite Of the type of spirits Because you're not even spirits you're little greedy bastards You're not even alive. You've lost your souls already and you're so dead You think you're gonna merge with a machine and become alive
Starting point is 02:21:46 If you were alive, you'd know That that would be the end of your humanity Not to use a machine to augment you or help you or help you survive or no no a machine that makes you a god A machine that takes over your free will a machine Yeah, you should take a pill for that getting a break a machine made by men And you think it's the god And you'll want to believe it's artificially intelligent you'll want to believe it has all the answers But all the answers were laying in front of you. There's weird stuff. What is he talking about?
Starting point is 02:22:21 I'm not sure. He's on a weird tear on this episode. I wrote in my notes. This show is a whole lot of nothing He spends about 20 minutes talking about how he's always been right about Benghazi and plays some clips from Benghazi past He spends a good amount of time defending uh, marine le pan Uh, he complains about trans bathrooms He espouses a belief that if you are actually the victim of terrorism You never talk about it because you don't want to encourage terrorism which By a proxy means that every time someone's claimed terrorism. It's been a false flag Uh, so he also admits uh that his sunday show is the only one that is not actively
Starting point is 02:23:03 Co-produced by gcn because they use a different phone line He says that sunday is the only show that we entirely produce ourselves That means he either goes through gcn or there's outside funding And that's something he probably shouldn't have admitted Um the number of things he admits that he shouldn't so five staggers five days a week his show involves Some sort of outside influence He's he's such he's such revealing that all he is is a guy who defines himself Externally by what he's against and how manly he has no he has no internal identity. It's purely
Starting point is 02:23:42 I am against this stuff and that's who I am. I am a person who is against I'm against all of these all of the things globalists. He who like I don't I don't entirely understand those people. That's a type of person No, the people who define themselves externally Like that's such a that's such a weird thing to me is that you don't have any internal Uh identity like you don't have any idea of who you are if it weren't for these these imaginary people Who is he? He likes you know what i'm saying? I mean he likes a good scotch He likes beef
Starting point is 02:24:21 um Does but does he even like that stuff or is it like somebody told him that that's manly somebody was like hey Scotch is bad and he was like fuck you. I'm gonna drink nothing but scotch Or he's like I met a vegan one time and they were like you shouldn't eat beef and he's like i'm eating just beef from now on I love it and he's like this uh this pansy vague vegan. I am manly. I eat meat. Yeah, maybe but here listen to this This this next clip is also super revealing and it might actually be a piece of his intrinsic Personality, uh, and it's incredibly fucked up. I know what I stand for and I know history You don't know either to be ridiculed or attacked or demonized
Starting point is 02:25:02 At a sick level is entertaining and I repented of that five years ago. I don't get off on it anymore I realize it's it's it's part of the danger zone we're in and I shouldn't get off on being lied about and attacked Again, I'm so aggressive and so manly that when I get attacked a lot about I actually like it I mean it's it's it's sinful and I repent for it But the enemy doesn't hurt me when they do that stuff it actually at a sick way I get off on it and uh I've almost gotten to the point where I don't get off on it and and now I realize how serious it is I realize it means how important our work is
Starting point is 02:25:35 But that's just what it comes down to let's go to some phone calls here If on a sick level he gets off on people attacking him It makes sense and it follows that he would intentionally say inflammatory and then he would do dumb shit in order for more people to attack him, right? I don't know if he should be saying these things on air because he's so manly He needs to see a therapist. It's because he's so manly too manly too manly. Yeah that I mean in in a certain sense that is 100 true. Well, yeah toxic male in the idea of what a man is You're just a fucking lunatic. Yes
Starting point is 02:26:10 Um, so the rest of this episode is spent with him screaming about uh situation at Yale Where some students were offended by people wearing, uh racist halloween costumes and what have you right? You see police and they had a confrontation with the head of student affairs I believe And he was explaining that it is free speech for them to be able to Dress in offensive ways and the people are like What the fuck you're supposed to create a safe environment for us. We're being racially victimized by people and uh,
Starting point is 02:26:41 It is a debate that uh, you know, I don't think either side is wrong Because I think that you should be able to wear racist costumes But there should be some real consequences for it. Yeah, that is so it is free speech To say and do horrible things, but it's also the most reasonable response to be very mad about it Yeah, so you the government should not arrest you But it also shouldn't be illegal to beat the shit out of you There's that and a private institution such as a college should Absolutely have the ability to throw you out. I mean it's not it's not punishing you for your free speech
Starting point is 02:27:17 Is that you're creating an environment where in it's not conducive to learning right because people are being victimized for their race Right, like if you're in a library and somebody brings in a gun, right? That is not a not great not a safe environment anymore. Not the way I want to study. Yeah I definitely don't want a librarian to go And then get fucking shot. Yeah, so Jordan are you ready for uh, november 9th? No That ups This
Starting point is 02:27:45 My friend it's the beginning of the end. Ladies and gentlemen, big things are happening Obviously, here in the united states and around the world. Thank you so much for joining us today We do have two guests phila Schwäfli founder of the Engle forum Break down what's happening to western borders and how to stop the globalist takeover then roger stone Who has written a new book Dealing with the fact that the clintons have had a war on women We'll be joining us. He is a historian
Starting point is 02:28:18 So that is coming up today roger stone has arrived. This is his this is his appearance. It is this is when he This is when he shows up. We found our ninth roger stone. Yep, anthill is schäfli on the same episode. What a fucking mess Yeah, um, so first we have a monster Second we have a bigger monster I don't know what I don't know which order would be. Yeah, that's a good question But uh, so the the thing that is interesting to me is that alex seems to be unwilling Or unaware
Starting point is 02:28:50 Uh of the fact or unwilling to tell the fact that roger stone worked on trump's campaign In his interview or his introduction. He only says he's a historian. He's a well. He actually calls him an alternative historian That's not great. No, that's not great. So but he uh, philip k dick was an alternative historian So alex, uh, it all of his introductions for him. It's just he hates the clintons. He's a historian He's a writer. He's a dirty trickster because he even brings up how roger stone was behind A lot of those fake conservatives that showed up to shut down the recount in florida in the 2000 election Like he even talks about how oh, yeah, he got these fake people to show up And uh ended up getting george w bush the election which alex should be against since he hates george w bush
Starting point is 02:29:37 But he just doesn't see a conflict there Hey, hey, you gotta you gotta give a con man credit when he cons, right? He doesn't actually get into the fact that roger stone is Deeply involved with trump until they're in the middle of their interview, which we will get to But first you teasing motherfucker alex jones has to tell you a story about the gym Welcome back to the tip of the spear and the fight for human liberty on your host alex jones This morning. I was in the local gym and I killed an agent. There's a personal trainer there a lady training a Middle-aged fellow. He kept staring at me. He kept staring at me
Starting point is 02:30:13 Wherever I was in the gym, and I don't really care. I just ignore that Get off on it and then I was over On some cable machines And the lady kind of comes over with him And the gym's pretty much wide open on a lot of people there And there's other machines and I was on this one first. I've been on there about 30 seconds and they said I guess you can use that but I'm gonna want it in a minute, which is not normal etiquette. You just come over and say, hey, can I use that? Of course here and I said sure. Actually, I'm done with it. You can have it now. They went. Oh, no, we don't want it now
Starting point is 02:30:52 So as I walked away, they go. Yeah, that right winger alex jones. Man. He's crazy And I knew when he was staring at me and she was looking at me And kind of giggling and laughing that they were totalitarians that think they're liberal So I turned back and I said, you know who's Causing problems in this country. It's the new left. They're nothing but totalitarians. I said, I'm a liberal. You're not You people are bullies. You people have serious problems But it was like in a movie where I then snapped in my mind and realized that I didn't actually say that to him. I was thinking that
Starting point is 02:31:35 See, I've gotten to the point where I can control myself and not say it And just walk away Because you're not gonna help people like that. You legitimately in most cases you legitimately looked worried Right there. There was a look of concern on your face. That is that is like you If we had a psychiatrist sitting right next to us, they'd be like, oh, that's paranoid delusions of grandeur We need to get him away. We need to get him away from people
Starting point is 02:32:03 He needs to be section seven and get fucking right away Maybe that's the sort of thing that steve pacanik recognized. Oh, this guy'll be easy. Yeah. Yeah That's paranoid delusion this man is this schizophrenic in this like how many of his stories that he tells where he tells off people Do you think are those fantasies that he has? As opposed to the reality of him just like I bet he I Questioned whether he was actually ever at a gym quite frankly. Yeah at this point It could just be him laying around in bed like if I was at a gym and something was shitty to me
Starting point is 02:32:31 I'd be like, you're not a liberal. I'm a liberal. Yeah, that could totally be it All of this could just be some sort of weird, uh, jacob's ladder fantasy Except he's not really dying but be that as it may I mean just just the line of like And then they walked away and said Oh, alex jones. He's a right-wing nut and you're like, they didn't say that. No, of course not. We weren't there I can guarantee you they didn't say that. Absolutely. They were people at a gym, right? They didn't know you They just were like, oh, yeah, I saw you just got on that machine. We do a regular routine here We're gonna use it in a minute. The lady was a personal trainer. She clearly works at the gym. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 02:33:12 It's not bad etiquette to be like, oh, you know, we're gonna need that machine in a few. Yeah, that's the heads up Yeah, I know that from the time I spent at a gym There are like that is a polite interaction Now him being like, hey, you can have it now if you want just not we don't need it now. Yeah, that's not rude either That's a polite interaction. This is a lunatic. That is He's really like it's easy to say he's crazy, but he's really crazy He's like mentally ill on a literal level. Yeah, this man needs a psychiatrist He's high functioning enough to like live his life and what have you but he is
Starting point is 02:33:51 And he's high functioning enough to sell weirdo pills and stuff like that. Right, but inside he is cripplingly insane Oh, absolutely He is both of those things simultaneously and that's why I always get kind of bothered when I see The videos that like I love sam cedar. I think the majority or the majority report is awesome But a lot of the time when they cover alex jones, they deal with it like a is he crazy or is he manipulative? As if they're mutually exclusive. Yeah, he is clearly both. Yeah, and it's you know, that's why this crazy evil spectrum We always try and apply doesn't really work not to him. No, he's crazy and evil. He's all the way on both ends He's creevil. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's like you it's like you turn both knobs up on
Starting point is 02:34:33 It's the high cut and the low cut all as high as you can make it Yeah, so I'm I'm gonna skip this next clip because it's another version of the halloween story that didn't happen But you can guess from that jim story the kind of delusional bullshit that's in his halloween story I'm starting to question whether buckley is even a DJ I'm starting to question whether or not buckley's even real. I know he's real because I've seen him in some videos That's a paid actor. It could be it's a hired actor. It's a roger stone prank. There it is So now we get roger stone is a playing a long game I wanted to mostly focus on roger stone because it's but what we've been looking for forever
Starting point is 02:35:10 Yeah, but it turns out that we do need to listen to a little bit of phyllis schlafly. Oh god They have about four minutes of the interview where they're flirting about how much she loves guns and it's weird I I I never ever use the c word Ever it's kind of never been more deserved hold it until the end of this next clip and then people will understand why it's appropriate But if you teach them how to read they'll be able to read some of the great books that are written in the english language that talked about the principle of limited government and Why freedom is important and important to work for just not for women Well, you've been fighting this fight for over 50 years
Starting point is 02:35:54 um But but my fight is a good example to the grassroots that you can win against overwhelming odds And you know, I have a dvd called doing the impossible And which I show all the odds that were against me when I started the fight against the equal rights amendment Everybody was against the press against me the president the congress the the press uh Everybody you could think of everybody who was important the organizations and so forth because they got equal rights
Starting point is 02:36:27 Now uh people haven't got any fight in it. Oh boy Yeah, what do you want to do you want to play a greatest hits of phyllis schlafly's fucking monstrous behavior? I mean, that's enough. I was against the equal rights. She is fucking insane. That woman has done so much damage She is a true literal monster like it's one of those things where we can prosecute Murders on a small scale, but somebody who is killed as many people as phyllis schlafly Is uh untouchable apparently she is a she is a true murderer For real
Starting point is 02:37:03 That woman has led to the deaths of so many women through distrust of uh medicine through distrust of uh Through her influence across the fucking conservative lunatic spectrum They they picked her up and promoted her. Oh, yeah purely to influence women And it was that was a trick of berry gold water probably it's fucking evil She is a she is a murderer and there's no other way to describe it That is what she is and I fucking hate her. She's a mess. I I can't I can't stand that she is allowed to walk free I think she's dead now though, right? I I like not soon enough. Well, okay, so The reason I wanted to play that clip just to give everyone a little flavor of hey
Starting point is 02:37:49 So weird that everyone was against me when I was against the equal rights act. Yeah, so that's fucked up Yeah, but then this women shouldn't have equal rights quote Phyllis schlafly right because then what about all the scoops stuff we have like being able to be in the home Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like it's like a shitty comics like Oh, man, I wish I could just stay at home all day like fuck you right Uh, as you're as opposed to fine, but it's a you're just it's fucking terrible You're not recognizing the forced part of it. Yeah, that was really the problem that the equal rights act worked Yeah, yeah, um, but the reason I needed to keep her interview in is this
Starting point is 02:38:27 Shifting gears into election 2016. What's your expert view on it? Well, I'm kind of hoping that there was a one guy who could really make a change at Donald trump I uh He he wants to make our country great A lot of these other people have no interest in making our country great And I think he really genuinely does want to make our country great again I think he's got a vision like uh ronald reagan And uh, I I wish him well
Starting point is 02:39:00 I hope he's another ronald reagan, uh, but I tell you He's not perfect Even you are not perfect Absolutely But anyway, uh, the others there's something to matter with the others. Anyway, he's got stuff and Yeah, they don't wait but that's helpful So, I mean we see there alex refers to phyllis schlafly as a living legend He he talks about how much she is an influential piece of his conservatism. He loves gold water as well
Starting point is 02:39:30 and so When she comes in and says that she's for trump that is not a small thing for him And at the same time she gives him his deflection. He's not perfect But neither is anybody. Yep. That is something he will use for the next year of his life So at this point alex jones opens up the phone lines And he wants to have people call in who have been victims of pc culture on campus. God damn it And he goes on to say like hey, even if you disagree with me now, you're wrong But you can call in if you want. Yeah, great great way to host a debate. Thanks, dude
Starting point is 02:40:04 That's gonna be awesome. He goes on to also talk about how when starbucks had there like let's talk about race on the cups He's like, they're just trying to stir up racial trouble. Man, this country was so much better off We were getting along before obama came in like, oh boy. Yeah, boy. Great. That's not uh cripplingly racist. I they did it so much and they're still doing it now that idea of like He wants to make our country great again as though as though that has any meaning They don't talk about how they don't talk about what they don't talk about anything other than I get the general feeling that he wants to make america great And that's such a perfect way to deny that you're a giant fucking racist
Starting point is 02:40:47 It's such a perfect way to deny that you want to kill poor people It's just such a perfect way to encompass all of this right wing bullshit By only saying, you know, like I feel like he wants to make america great again And whatever great is is what it means to you. Yeah, exactly There's no meaning to any of this shit It's it for as much as alex complains about george orwell You would think that he would be able to pick this piece up You know, you'd think he'd be able to be like, hmm. This might be some sort of uh, double speak
Starting point is 02:41:19 Yeah, but he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't give a shit um, so the time has come 18 episodes of investigation have been leading us to this point. Roger stone makes his appearance on the alex jones show And now we will find out if my prediction was correct that alex jones starts supporting trump as soon as roger stone shows up I know my first debate prediction was real bad. It was pretty bad Um, so before they get into any trump matters, they want to shit on hillary a bit And because roger stone has a book about hillary having a war on women. Yeah, and so he that's the
Starting point is 02:41:53 Ostensibly the reason he's there. Uh-huh. Uh, but uh, they so they start shitting on hillary a little and this one this This is nuts. This is a woman with a volcanic temper a foul mouth Very short tempered very very greedy Uh, this is someone doesn't have the temperament to be president. Well, as you know, it's been reported I mean from fbi agents and others that work in the White House that she rolls on the floor and choose carpet Only the person I know that does that was hitler that that's pretty amazing. That is pretty amazing Yeah, that's great. Oh, are you saying that we shouldn't have somebody who has a foul mouth short temper and is exceptionally greedy in the White House Are you saying that's a bad series of qualities to have in a fucking president?
Starting point is 02:42:38 What you don't are you saying that that's not what we fucking need What you what you don't understand is that this is roger stone hotdogging. This is him showing off Yeah, he's showing off that he can just fucking say whatever he goddamn wants and show it shows how stupid and gullible alexis Yeah, um, so I heard she eats carpet. That's amazing. That is amazing. Yeah The fbi is reported that the only other person who's ever eaten carpet is hitler. What are you? What is that? It's it's amazing. What is what is that? It really is amazing. I mean that clip is truly amazing. Yeah. Yeah, um, so these next clips Are essentially roger stone
Starting point is 02:43:17 Having watched alex jones's show Knowing what alex jones's rebuttals to trump are and knocking them down one by one So the first one that alex jones always goes into is mob connections and don't trust him And he's flip-flopped in the past. Well, the biggest one is can we trust him? Is he for real or is this some sort of a joke and uh, here's the answer to that one Roger stones gonna be on the nightly news tonight getting into even more seven o'clock central He was the chairman of donald trump's exploratory campaign
Starting point is 02:43:52 Uh, previously when he thought about running for president He was on the campaign till his book came out and and you know, he resigned himself He talked to trump this morning So maybe we could pick your brain about trump, but you were telling me off air trumps for real Oh, there's no question. Look, I I don't agree with trump on everything. We've been friends 37 years I very strongly supported for president for one simple reason. You can't buy trump. You can't bully trump He doesn't answer to wall street. He doesn't answer the lobbyists He doesn't interest in special interests that the coke brothers. No one donald trump is his own man
Starting point is 02:44:21 He'd be the first president we've had who really worked solely for the american people Uh, and it's that incorruptibility plus, uh, he's not afraid to take on You know unpopular plethora incorrect circumstances. He knows that some there's something hinky about 9 11 He knows the immigration. Well, I know he's suddenly been saying stuff about it freaking the bushes out He were telling me that you're educating him. Well, he's a reader. The nice thing about trump is that he he's open minded And he was astounded by what he learned that as you know, alex that we had numerous warnings that this was going to happen That went completely unheeded Uh, and it's just like the birther question trump fearlessly brought that into the mainstream you and I know it
Starting point is 02:45:00 But you couldn't get it on cbs or nbc or cnn or msnbc Trump is the guy who brought the whole question of obama's birth And where he was really born into the political mainstream where people could consider it And it's why he zoomed to the head of the polls three years ago He should have challenged mit romney then I was in favor of going then So, um, uh, I remain his strongest supporter So, um, but pause the clip there because that's a load of bullshit, but uh You see that the things he's he's deflecting alex jones' concerns about whether he's for real or not
Starting point is 02:45:31 And then adding on all the stuff that he knows alex is super into racism 9 11 Uh immigrant birther birtherism all those things. It's just like, oh no, he's he's so much more than for real Yeah, so now we get to the mob question Okay, because alex is gonna you've really put together a murderer's row of things that I would hate today Like you I feel like you curated this episode just to like Can I destroy jordan's spirit? I've made jordan very angry a lot. Have a good show Can I can I just suck his soul from him and leave him a bitter husk of a man? Like the total perspective vortex from douglas adams
Starting point is 02:46:09 See you you're looking at this wrong and I'll explain it a little bit later But uh, we get to the mob question here a close friend. I what do you expect the clintons to do to try to come after him? Well, they're already trying to spread this rumor that you know, donald was always in bed with organized crime Let me tell you something you cannot get a new jersey casino control license and hold one for 13 years If you're in bed with the mob, it's just not possible. They have the most stringent laws They put a practice scope right up your derriere and they look at every financial transaction in your entire life donald trump Is clean and they got nothing on him. That's amazing. Isn't that the exact opposite of what is true?
Starting point is 02:46:48 Listen, he can't be mobbed up because he works in casinos I That is That is a staggering What yeah, but alex jones buys it. You can't hold a license for 13 years Unless you're mobbed up, right? Right, but alex jones Like that's the only way to do it alex buys it hook line and sinker to the point where later in the interview alex brings up the mob stuff as if he never believed it
Starting point is 02:47:14 No Fucking he brings it up at like hey, can you believe that people believe trump is in the mob? Wow connected the mob? In the quail in the course of the interview you see alex jones Denying things he's said in the past and acting like I never never know wrong side that Jesus in this next clip Roger stone gets demonstrative Uh, you know with this country's head to the toilet, you know that only trump can save america in my opinion because he's independent Of the of the washington power structure sure alex jones says sure
Starting point is 02:47:47 Uh, uh, donald trump is the only one who can save america. Sure Signs off on it. Sure sure sure now here's where the interview gets weird And they don't talk about save america from what? Well, it's from the immigrants Obviously, I mean, I think that's the underlying or the globalists the globalist and all of their uh, rogue armies of immigrants and shit like that and their uh, here here here this next one this next clip real weird Okay, and this indicates that roger stone a hundred percent listens to alex's show There is no doubt that he's keenly aware of where a lot of his uh Where a lot of his interests lie and maybe the parent company's uh monetary interests lie
Starting point is 02:48:30 This is interesting Wait until trump starts talking about monetary reform because I know his views on monetary reform And the printing press money that we currently give us any little secrets or I guess yeah, he's a hard money man He thinks it's time to look at gold. I can tell you that right now Trump understands that the bankers have gone crazy Uh, and that the federal reserve is uh, you know is not provided for in our government Well, it seems like he is getting more informed all the time when he went after jeb on 9 11 And I was told by another person that knows him that no no he knows what's going on now
Starting point is 02:49:00 You're telling me and it's on record used to be his campaign. This is wild. This is wild You're seeing alex get flipped in real time. It is it is amazing It's it's It's hard not to like look at stone do this and be like nicely done. Well, yeah, exactly Like there's a there's a certain amount of respect for a guy who can game recognize games. Yeah. Yeah, and it's right on air To just like transparently be like hey if I just lie to alex He's gonna believe me right as long as because trump trump's gonna bring back the gold standard Trump doesn't even know what the fucking federal reserve does he might
Starting point is 02:49:38 Okay, you're right Trump definitely doesn't know that you want to shut it down trump is certainly not gonna go back to the gold standard No, but you know then he would be broke. You know who would though ran paul Of course So what what roger stone is basically doing and a lot of levels is taking all of ran paul's positions and saying trump Believe taking the things that alex loves about ran paul and applying them to trump Yeah, trump has no interest in the fucking gold standard. No, he has no interest in any of this. He would go broke He's not invested in gold. He's not a reader
Starting point is 02:50:14 Absolutely, he doesn't give a fuck about 9 11. No this stuff. It's all he can't save america. No, it's all just it's all just political It's all just grandstanding of a guy who's saying whatever it is he feels like And then repeating back what people tell him they like when you have legitimately no ethics and you're a scummy weasel That's what you do. Yeah so, I mean it's it's so now now The other thing that alex has always had the b in his bonnet
Starting point is 02:50:45 Is uh that trump has connections with hillary clinton And has said positive things about hillary clinton in the past So this comes up in this next clip But it's in the context of glenn beck because alex is starting to agree with roger stone And doesn't want to admit that he has had concerns about that So he says glenn beck has had concerns about donald trump's connection with hillary He's too manly too manly. He's just too manly too manly. He loves to man up He won't own his position. He has to pimp out glenn beck in order to even raise the question that he wants to talk about
Starting point is 02:51:21 What a manly man, but most of his work. He doesn't like donald trump And I understand some of the reasons because of his you know past political activities Just being a businessman in new york when hillary was a senator, but I mean so far he he he is saying the right things And he's better than the other candidates. Yeah, look, I like glenn and I look forward to asking him You know what his beef is with donald trump, uh people do evolve politically I don't think trump was all that politically aware or interested when the country was stronger and he was building his business He is right. He's played the game if you're a businessman If you don't put campaign contributions into the pockets of the politicians, they don't even listen to you
Starting point is 02:52:00 It's not that you're buying favors You can't even buy an audience and you have an obligation When you have thousands of people working for you to get your point of view in front of government So sure he has a relationship and frankly his attitude was we have a federal limit on donations So the first 10 politicians who walk in give them the maximum. Sure them on their way They're all worthless anyway And now when they show up asking for money, say, oh, I'd love to help you, but I've already hit my legal max Well, I know this and we we did have a president that wasn't actively trying to put us into world government
Starting point is 02:52:30 And the tpp we would it'd be like untying a boat from the dock when the engine's on we are tied up I mean, they're fighting to keep us politically and financially suppressed to control us All you gotta do is cut that out and we'll explode What alex jones did right there at the end is give roger stone more things to tell him trump is going to do Yeah, or in this case actually trump did do that. Yeah fucking This is sad. This is so sad. This is remarkably sad I I like this roger stone excuse doesn't involve. Why did he go to their wedding?
Starting point is 02:53:01 Why did they invite them to his wedding roger stone is making me feel bad for alex? It's just watching it's like it's watching a man explain santa claus to a child No, what you're getting like it just it's just all Imaginary nonsense. You're getting a view of how easy that russian meeting was. Oh, yeah, those russian spies Interrogating alex. Oh, man easy Wow I've heard that uh, putin does bad things No, putin's fighting the globalist. He's defending hurry. Everything putin does is great now
Starting point is 02:53:34 Well, you know alex has very frequently said I have from secret sources that he's he's secretly a christian and is secretly defending christendom Yeah, how much do you think that comes from spies? Yeah, that he accidentally talks to in fake interviews with rt Man, it's crazy. It's crazy. So we got one more clip and this is where I think uh, Roger stone pulls out the death blow. He's sick of the whole political correct agenda. He understands that freedom is on the ropes Uh, and he's saying that gunfree zones are places for crazy people to go kill That's the guy. Let's be careful. He's carrying anytime you see him. Trust me, brother. He's carrying He's had a concealed carry permit in new york, which they don't give out. They're very hard to get Oh and the media acted like it's weird that he'd want to have a gun when he's a target
Starting point is 02:54:22 How many death threats do you think he gets a week? I mean, it's extraordinary and they ask us not to talk about it Uh, well that shows how warped it is. Yeah, exactly But he gets a lot of death threats. Oh, well, sure because he's speaking out on a lot of controversial subjects So you do say he's tripled his security. He's tripled his security. Uh, he himself carries both his sons are gun enthusiasts Very active hunters and gun enthusiasts. They both carry. I love it. Uh, you know, they're strong believers in the second Oh, he was president. He'd carry Well, you know, obama's not carrying anything, but maybe a reagan carried reagan had a holster, you know on his, uh, calf
Starting point is 02:54:57 He was carrying about 80 of the time when he was running for president and when he was president Well, you're crazy if you don't that can't everybody's like, hey, let the cops have guns. What about us? Yeah, I'm sure he wishes he was carried when hinkley tried to take him out or hinkley and others tried to take It's like the sir hand sir hand crap Right reagan may have been carrying but he also probably had a strap on if it wasn't a gun It was a strap on if only rfk had been carrying when sir hand sir hand shot him right So I and and also reagan has been fucked in the s According to that guy whose name I can't remember
Starting point is 02:55:29 Uh, but like, uh, you see it you see it there like that's the transformative moment. I believe the moment where Uh, roger stone is saying he loves guns. He's carrying all the time. His sons are big gun Supporters right you hear alex say I love it and then he's like then we'd have a president who carries Yep, and then he that's it. Just giant boner right there. That's it Now that's the last clip I have so it it did eventually come back to guns Like that's that's where we we kind of started with that couple of ideas of is it racism? Is it guns all the racism's in there too? Oh, absolutely, but the death blow is guns Well, I think that's and of course trump isn't carrying. No, are you fucking insane?
Starting point is 02:56:14 How could you possibly believe that? I don't think he has the manual dexterity to hold a gun But be that as it may um, that's the last clip and at the end of november 9th alex does not end up saying I support trump or anything like that But you can tell in his tone that he believes everything that roger stone is telling him and this is going to get integrated into his worldview I predict within two days. He is going to come out and say that he supports trump. He supports trump I'm guessing it will be that quick. I don't know yet But that to me this episode is the end of me being curious. Yeah, roger stone did it
Starting point is 02:56:52 Well, it's it's roger stone and rusher did it. That's right. Russia set it up And then roger stone was the point man who knocked it over. Yeah, that's it roger stone picked up the spare Yeah, and it was a very easy spare. That was not a 7 10 split. No, that was just the one But uh, I mean, I think I'm gonna keep so it's so transparent. It's just like Oh, they did on air. Yeah, I know like roger could have done Of 20 minutes of research listening to a couple of clips and been like alex like this this this and this a lot So i'm just gonna say trump does all that. Yep, and that's it. Yep, and alex is gonna believe me Yep, it's that simple because of the groundwork that's been laid by alex's pro rusher positions
Starting point is 02:57:36 Because of the fellow member of the 45 group steve pacenek coming in and feeding alex the Narrative that uh trump knows everything. He's on the right side of things. Yeah, he was alex was primed From a week ago when pacenek was on you remember that steve pacenek did say or alex said that steve was asking to come on Yeah, he was asking to come on as a setup for this prestige like a week and a half later when roger stone shows up Uh on mysteriously on his book tour Uh, we don't talk about his book much. They just talk about how great trump is right It's uh, my my investigation is over, but i'm gonna keep going until just just to hear the day Yeah, until you have to have the the day tomorrow. Yeah, we know we know what happened now
Starting point is 02:58:24 Yeah, I think you and I and our policy wonks out there know A story that no one else knows There is a massive Uh, I don't know what the exact connection with trump and russia is i don't know But we know damn well that alex has been compromised alex as an asset for russia And he's a gullible fuck being used by the members of the 45 group the steve paceneks The uh, I don't know the rest of the people who are in it, but roger stone for sure Uh, that he's being used as a puppet for uh on their part in order to get trump elected
Starting point is 02:59:02 Probably serving russia's interests. Absolutely. It's very very very clear Yeah Game over Congratulations everybody We made it to the end. We figured out the knowledge that we needed and uh, now we're all back to being impotent It's it is kind of it is kind of funny that uh Like there's a certain amount of silliness to the idea that all of these powerful
Starting point is 02:59:37 uh secretive brilliant men are Have to go to a dumb Paranoid delusional schizophrenic and and do the minimal amount of convincing for then for them to then get access to millions of people Well, yeah, it's because uh They couldn't do it themselves right alex jones has laid the groundwork of years and years of radicalizing and uh Fringifying his audience to the point where there are millions of people who are up for grabs
Starting point is 03:00:09 And it is a brilliant strategic move Oh to to tap into that because they're not going to leave you They're brainwashed to a great extent. Yeah, I don't mean that like everyone who listens to info wars is But a lot of people you can see it in the the trends of the calls You can see back when alex was saying that trump was mobbed up the callers were saying that When alex started to say I like what he's saying, but I don't trust him every single caller mirrored that I guarantee you within a week everyone is going to be saying saying hey Trump is awesome
Starting point is 03:00:41 He is our only hope and he's already had callers trying to convince him that trump is awesome Sure a couple and then you also have callers that I haven't even like I haven't kept in everything just because Maybe we don't want to make this a five hour podcast Right, there are callers who talk about how great putin is they're callers who call in and say That they're the good rush as the good guy in ukraine and syria. It's just You know, they talk about rush limbaugh fans being ditto heads Yeah, and just signing off on everything rush limbaugh believes that's nothing compared to alex jones and the reason he's dangerous He has a smaller but more fervent audience. I don't yeah, definitely smaller but more fervent. Yeah, you're right
Starting point is 03:01:17 but the the reason it's dangerous is part and parcel of His indoctrination of his audience is convincing them that they're free thinkers Part of it is convincing them that what makes you info warriors is that you resist the brainwashing of the globalists You think for yourself Wow at the same time falling in line with literally every narrative I'm pushing that happens to largely come from russian propaganda. Yeah, it's fucking insane fucking insane so
Starting point is 03:01:47 I was listening back. I was listening back to an old episode of ours and we've come a long way Right. I was listening back to an old episode where I was making the argument that alex is not Someone who's involved with russia. He's just an idiot. Yeah, and we've come full full Circle and all it takes is listening to his goddamn show No, it's not even like we did a shit ton of investigative journalism I mean, I did research into these specific narratives and showing like Convincing myself at least that like, oh, he's not saying a true thing. It's not real What he's what he's complaining about it has its roots in
Starting point is 03:02:23 Russian interests, whether it's destabilizing countries or Demonizing immigrants So, I mean, it doesn't it's not that hard It's very clear and the fact that on this episode alex admits that he got grilled by fucking russian intelligence and didn't do anything about it I mean, that's all you need to know. Yeah, that clip alone could be our investigation Pretty much that clip and the roger stone interviewer. All you need all the rest of it is just uh Proof just more proof. It has been it has been a fun journey though. Like it there's there's been a surprising number of twists I know we're not done. Right. I mean with with our investigation. Like at least the curiosity piece
Starting point is 03:03:02 Yeah, there have been a surprising number of twists and turns all along the way where we're both going back and forth on what it is He's doing what's going on and then the fact that it just fucking Funneled in so quickly to oh russians compromised him roger stone has made him part of his team Well roger stone that was my first prediction, but the the context surrounding it. I could never have predicted. Yeah. No, this is nuts Um, so, yeah, so what is it? Like so now that we know He's he's a russian propaganda front. Yeah Is there anything we can do?
Starting point is 03:03:38 No, like do we do we do something? I don't know tell the media. I guess Yeah, I guess but here's the thing if any media wants to cover this You've got fucking 80 hours of proof to go through. Yeah, but um I don't know. I don't know what we can do. Yeah, it's terrible to imagine they would do their job The job they get paid money to do that we're doing for free. Uh, yeah, tell your friends tell everybody you can Uh, I mean, I don't know does anyone care if you know people who would care Let them know post about this on reddits on subreddits. This is i'm not involved in any of that reddit world So if you are please put the put this information out there
Starting point is 03:04:19 We've demonstrated fairly clearly some really fucked up stuff. No one knows and uh, hey If you can get the word out get the word out if you can't I appreciate you listening and that's enough for me Yeah, because what do we want to do get killed? I don't want to get killed I don't know. I'm still I'm still I'm kind of cool as being killed. All right. Well I hope you don't get killed look everybody dies Not everybody gets killed because they discovered russian propaganda Alex jones, yeah, yeah, exactly That's ironically plenty of ways to go that one's not too bad. Ironically. He's a cutout
Starting point is 03:04:52 The thing that he accuses like al gore of being uh, it's insane So I hope you don't die before tonight at 8 p.m. Central when we'll be broadcasting live at twitch tv dot It's not really ironic. It is it is purely. I'll let you get the I know I know uh It's it's part. It's the entire republican strategy of doing something Obviously and then just saying that no, we're not doing it. They are and that's it and it's alex's psychological Sort of blueprint like it's it's his fingerprint. It's what he does it Honestly, if we were looking at it with that knowledge from the beginning, I bet we could have predicted this Possibly but since that sort of revelation and the well
Starting point is 03:05:37 I mean frankly the moment we heard him say people accused me of being a russian agent is like Oh, you're a russian agent like holy shit Yeah, that's you. Yeah And now that we have the information that he loves people attacking him and he gets off on it And that he has psychotic breaks where he pretends that he's standing up to people It really brings into focus a very harrowing picture of an easily compromised man Who's suffering so much and I I want to be empathic I my heart wants to go out to him because it's clear he's in a lot of pain
Starting point is 03:06:11 but Because the way he expresses his pain hurts millions of people. I don't know. Uh, we'll be back. We'll uh, we'll continue this investigation Until we get the americana 2.0. Uh, yeah, george washington reborn. Shit going But if you'd like to listen to us tonight on twitch tv twitch.tv Slash knowledge fight. We will be there discussing modern day. Alex jones will be live. There's videos You can see how long my hair is. It'll be our first live video podcast It's going to be it's going to be waxed starting hopefully at 8 p.m Shark, uh, but we will see and because people might be curious about that
Starting point is 03:06:48 Um, we will not be releasing those episodes as podcasts So as not to overwhelm the itunes feed. Yeah, but we will be posting them on the twitch channel They will remain there as archived episodes and uh, I believe I'll be posting them to youtube So there will be places online that you can get them and if you can't like I know we have a lot of listeners in Foreign countries and if you can't you have access to those things like those Websites are blocked or something like that. Uh, let me know send me an email at knowledgefight at gmail.com And we'll try and figure something out to send you mp4s or something like that. Yep. Uh, so we'll sort it out and uh, I hope you're interested in that at all
Starting point is 03:07:31 Because I've gone. I've done a lot of work preparing this And it'd be real shitty if no one cares it would it would be a bummer That's for sure Almost as much of a bummer is finding out that alex jones is this dumb. Yeah But uh, if you're a website if you want to go check it out knowledgefight.com got links got all kinds of things on there You can follow us on twitter at knowledge and underscore fights. We're on itunes Where you can subscribe leave a review of the show so people can find us more easily So the rest of the world can know that alex jones is a compromised asset of a hostile foreign power
Starting point is 03:08:02 That would be a nice thing for people to find out it would be good if uh, that knowledge was spread far and wide Yeah, uh, also you can find us on facebook. Uh, you can check us out there. Leave a review. Uh, send a message I always like to communicate with peeps. Yeah, you know and what I Hear from so many, uh From so many people who are anti-vaxxers. Um, you know, a lot of them are russian propagandists But i'll tell you there's one guy in specific Who I don't know if he's a russian propagandist. He might be he very much might be who knows again CAA dentists made him russian teeth. Yeah, uh, I mean, we don't know anything about this guy. No
Starting point is 03:08:41 That's our next investigation. Well, that's part of this investigation. Just hasn't shown up yet. That's true We're talking about a man by the name of jr I want to know who shot him, uh No, that's a reference. No one shot him. That's a reference that nobody should know one shot him because he's anti-vaxx Uh, but there is one there's just one thing that I would want to say to him Uh, are you related to michael rapaport? That's a good question. He's not Are we sure spelled differently spelled differently? Yeah, uh Anyways the point being go fuck yourself john rapaport andy and chanzas you're on the air. Thanks for holding
Starting point is 03:09:19 So alexa my first name color i'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you

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