Knowledge Fight - #836: The Crowder Announcement
Episode Date: August 9, 2023Today, Dan and Jordan get together to discuss the breaking news that Alex Jones is going to try to relaunch a subscription service on Steven Crowder's new network full of losers....
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Need money.
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Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you. So up
What's your bright spot my bright spot is I was gonna say this episode because I was kind of excited about what it portends
Okay, there's portent. Yeah, so I want to say that something I'm going to say in this episode is my bright spot, but I don't want to reveal it yet
Okay, so you'll know it when it happens all right. All right for shadowing is your bright spot. Yeah, yeah, okay a big tease
I like it very unsatisfying. What's yours? I think it's gonna be a similarly
Unsatisfying I think because it's not really a bright spot. Oh, so there's a new show on Netflix a Korean reality show
Piki blinders which is Squid Game all great reality shows now are from Korea
Sure, and it's called zombie verse and essentially what they've done is they've taken five people and
I guess convinced them that they were going to be on a dating reality show and then also
they were going to be on a dating reality show. And then also purchased an entire block of a city
or whatever and filled it with extras
who are playing as realistic zombies
as they possibly can.
And they have not told these people this.
And so on.
This sounds like a damn script game.
It is so quick, but it's like.
So they know that you, okay,
they have to know that zombies aren't real.
They have to.
They have to.
I would hope so.
They have to.
Well, wait, so have you watched it?
I've watched the first episode.
I feel like, I feel like all the questions I want to ask you about it might be spoiling,
but you've only seen the first episode.
I know.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
It's tough because this this premise does sound like
something that if you're going to watch it, you're going to want to watch it. Oh, totally. Well,
you've seen jury duty. The polyshore movie. No, although that's fine. No, you haven't seen the
jury. Okay. Oh, that show where the guy is in jury duty. I didn't know that was the name of it.
Yeah. Right. Right. So yeah. So that show they put this guy into a situation that is completely fictitious reality
fictitious reality convinced him of something that is true and only by virtue of him being like a good dude
Mm-hmm. Does it not make you really morally problematic about it? Right, right, but it doesn't involve zombies
Right this is kind of fucked up to the point where even if they know it's not real
There is very clearly shit that you are going to take
with you for the rest of the rest of the rest of the rest.
Like, there is trauma that's going to happen here.
Like, and it is kind of fucked up.
Yeah, but you sign a waiver.
Look, I-
No, I understand that.
This is basically an elevated prank, you know?
But it is!
I mean, it's almost like an escape room,
it's like an escape room that they've expanded to an escape reality
I guess what if you had to escape in an entire city what if Chicago was your escape room for a week or whatever, you know, I mean
I'll just walk
But everybody zombies and there are real looking at real
Yeah, but what if they act is so fucking real and like you see people getting fucking touch
I'm telling you they've totally cared well fine if they touch me I'll punch one and then you'll become I don't even know how to
I'm gonna be couple zombies you're real you will know I won't I think but that's where I think the problem is
I think they get these people one one okay first, you and I obviously were never going to be
at a place where we're like zombies are real.
And if I punch a zombie, I'm fine.
They have to bite me.
Toad, right?
You're gonna be fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if you're the type of person
who signs up for a dating reality show,
I do think that you are more likely to become susceptible
to this point where you go, wait, are zombies real?
Maybe.
I hope not, but maybe.
But here's the thing, that jury duty show
that you're describing.
The buy-in for that is much lower.
Because jury duty exists.
People are weird, which I assume is most of the tension
in the show.
People do weird stuff.
People do weird stuff in your life, is this real life?
Yeah, you know, you can have surreal moments. Sure. People do weird stuff. Yeah, people do weird stuff in your life, is this real life? Yeah.
You know, you can have surreal moments and people are chaotic
and unpredictable.
Totally.
Whatever.
Yeah.
If a dragon walked into the courtroom, much bigger sell.
Totally.
Much bigger buy-in.
A lot harder.
Yeah, and so like, yes, if I were on this show, I would be scared
of someone attacking me because I would think,
oh, they didn't clear the set. Sure. Not because I think this guy is a zombie. Sure.
Sure. Sure. Sure. Yeah. That would be what scares me. No, the premise of the show.
Here's the thing that I think gets, here's what I think does it. All right. Is that normally,
you'd be like, okay, fine. And you're in one arena, and then you leave, and you're like, okay, now we're outside
of the reality TV show place.
But then they literally go outside of town to a gas station,
and there are still zombies there.
They're traveling across a legitimate distance
to the point where you're going, again,
I know they know zombies aren't real,
but I also know
that some of them are really going like, they can't possibly afford to hire several thousand people
for this dumb show, right? And they can. Yeah, that's where you gotta just say yes they can.
They can. You have to be like, wow, these people spent several million dollars hiring a bunch of
extras to attack me for a week.
Right.
And especially if like, oh, I'm going all this way to the gas station that the producers
told me to go to as opposed to the gas station I choose to go to.
And the guy who drives the guy who drives the car to get to the gas station.
Yeah, he does.
Of course he does.
And he leaves the car.
He leaves the car.
He's outside of the car.
I understand that, you know, there is, there are reasons why one might come to the suspicion
that made the zombies early.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
But, no, no, no, again, I agree with you.
What's interesting in this, you know, like with jury dirty, with jury duty, the interesting
thing is, oh, look at all these people behaving weirdly, will this guy eventually go like fuck off?
You know, like that kind of thing.
Whereas with this show, the tension is more like,
how much would it take?
How much would it take to really convince you
that zombies are real?
Yeah.
That, see, did you ever see that show on MTV Fear
where they'd have people go to like a band-in
mental hospital, the prison?
Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they had to record themselves.
And like, I ever, I ever wanted to end up
kind of thinking ghosts are real.
Yeah, yeah, well, like maybe, yeah, maybe they'll get
to the point where it's just like,
okay, we're in a zombie invasion.
But then you run a very serious risk
of them killing an extra. Because if you buy into the premise, you're gonna murder.
Well, that's the thing about it is that can you, can you like almost hypnotize somebody to that point?
Where it is like, listen, I signed up for this reality show. I know I'm on a reality show and now zombies are happening.
So obviously zombies aren't real
This is part of the reality show, but then how many steps but you know, it's it's a little bit like imagine imagine if you were somebody who was like
People keep telling me that I can see the future and every prediction you make keeps coming true
Even though you can't see the future or anything like that
It's just everybody makes it so that every prediction you make keeps coming true, even though you can't see the future, or anything like that. It's just everybody makes it so that every prediction
you make keeps coming true.
How many in a row before you go,
maybe I can see the future.
I mean, I guess it would depend on how elaborate
the wishes are.
It have to get crazy, right?
The logistics of it.
Yeah, but here's the other thing I'm thinking about.
Sure.
It's like the payoffs that you want from this show are impossible.
Like them killing extras thinking that there's ambies or something like that.
Or the other end of it is people just being like,
zombies don't exist. This is ridiculous. And then there's no payoff to that.
It feels like the middle of the road is even kind.
I don't feel like there's a satisfying way
that this show plays out.
Here's the payoff.
And I'll tell you what the payoff is,
because we've already seen it happen one time
in the first episode.
And there'll probably be more different payoffs
that I haven't imagined so far.
But the payoff is, who is the person
who's gonna hide that zombie bite?
Oh, so it's like a mole, who's the mole?
No, no, no, no.
I mean, they're not doing that on purpose,
but there is that element of like, okay,
so all of these people now are suddenly believing
that they're in this environment.
But what if there is a valorous person who kills himself?
There are valorous people.
Will they sacrifice themselves?
It's horrible.
Exactly, it's not okay.
It's not okay.
I don't think it's okay.
I think this is really bad.
And I am somebody who has frequently screamed
about how I want one of the challenges on Survivor
to be, give me an ounce of your blood.
Like Jeff Prope's just wants blood.
Just give me blood.
Yeah, that's it.
I don't care how you get it out.
I'm a man blood.
Yeah.
Fill up against, we get to barrels with lions on them.
But why not?
Why not?
I see no reason.
Yeah.
Anyways.
Yeah.
I feel like they could do that on the challenge though.
I have been thinking about that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They won episode, they could just be like bleed.
TJ life would just come to that.
He's like, today, got bleed.
I do think that TJ would laugh psychopathically when if like other people were just like, today, you gotta bleed. I do think that TJ would laugh psychopathically
when if like other people were just like,
wait, you want me to bleed?
And he was like, yeah.
And they just grabbed knives and cut themself.
I put it song out like a psycho.
Yeah.
TJ's crazy.
Yeah.
The problem with the design of this would have to be,
because you get in trouble if it's quantity or time-based.
Sure.
Because if it's time, then you risk somebody
like being really reckless with how they get their blood out.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if it's quantity-based, someone might try and go
for like a leader or something.
Sure.
Well, yeah.
I mean, that's when you start wondering if people are going
to like siphon gas.
Are they going to figure out the same shit with like a vein?
How? Somebody's got a little tube and they're like,
okay, I got what you.
Yeah, I mean, this is dark and grotesque and everything,
but I feel like a lot of reality TV is so exploitative anyway.
Oh, I mean, it's really that different.
I don't think it's defensible at all.
I don't think anybody should try and defend reality TV.
We should all just accept that that's part of who we are.
Yeah.
Dark underbelly.
Yeah.
So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
Sure.
And like I said, it will include something that is a bit of a bright spot.
But I will explain everything on the other side of saying hello to some new walk.
Oh, that's a great idea.
So first, the last broken squash cousin.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. So first the last broken squash cousin. Thank you so much you're now policy wonk
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I'm guessing that's advanced placement Christ which I took in and my senior year of high school.
How fun would that be?
Next, my name's Michael and I used an AI to prove that dividing by zero results in infinity
somebody better pay me soon.
Next, Clemation Point, thank you so much you're now policy wonk.
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Thank you.
And Aaron, you missed our anniversary.
It was yesterday.
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I'm gonna take the credit in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to the new world order is replacing fossil fuels with the disc world's captive demon technology
Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I'm I quit tomorrow actually. I'm just gonna take a little break you know
a little break you know. A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back.
And I'm gonna start the show over.
But I'm the devil. I gotta be taking it on here. I'm gonna do all this.
Fuck you. Fuck you.
I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day,
fuck you in your new
world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit!
Maybe today's survival has broke just. Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's really what I
want to do. I never want to come back hearing you. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday
that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
He's not, never shall be.
Wow.
So it came to my attention and some people
have pointed this out.
And I forgot to mention it because of,
we didn't have a Wednesday episode after we had that interview
with Mike Rothschild.
Yes.
But that demon pride shirt is real, apparently.
Right, right, right.
And what I didn't, okay, so here's the thing.
I did not know of the drama that surrounded that shirt.
It was originally created by LGBTQ designer and then was co-opted by the right
and what have you as an attack.
But I didn't realize it was pride month,
and then taking off the letters on the outside,
the end of month and the beginning of pride.
And then, demon.
Yeah, demon is left.
De, that makes more sense than what Alex was describing in my head as
Pride Demon month. Yeah, which is what I what I yeah, it's a little different
but I wanted to acknowledge it because people had pointed that out and I I mean
here's the thing we're at a disadvantage for for the rest of the world they
can think,
oh, there's this shirt that I saw.
That kind of thing.
But if we hear demon on our show,
we go, well, obviously he's talking about
a specific literal demon.
That exists.
And press, and I thought it was a pride demon month.
It was a specific demon month for the Bragg, yeah.
Also, I think we're also at a disadvantage a little bit
because we are not always up to date on the things that become social media conversations.
Yeah, we need a lot of that. We kind of don't we don't see.
I appreciate it. I would rather find out after the fact what social media is mad about than than daring.
Yeah. So, yeah. Jordan, yeah.
Today, we're covering something that happened this morning.
This morning?
I... Wait, what day is today?
Tuesday? Yeah. Okay.
I had an idea of doing a 2004 episode,
but then I got the bat signal, went up.
Literally, over the skies of Chicago, I saw...
Oh, Christopher Nolan's Chicago. Uh-huh. I saw with the bat signed. It's just a purple penguin. Yeah
Yeah, I don't know none of this bent aflex shit get the fuck out of here. This is Christopher Nolan's bullshit right yeah big news
Right big news. What is it? All right
Big news. What is it?
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Like this is really, there's a lot of really strange
the dynamics going on here, but this morning,
they had the big announcement.
Yeah.
What do they call it?
Replatforming is starting now.
I'm sorry?
Well, because everyone got deplatformed.
Right. Right.
Right.
Shining light into the shadow band.
They were de-platformed.
They were repat, oh.
Yep.
Yeah, I would, there's other better names.
Yeah.
So they had their big unveiling announcement ceremony.
And who we're gonna start off with Gerald,
who is the, I guess he's the guy, the business guy for Crowder stuff, and co-host.
Yeah.
And here's what they should have gone with, right?
Obviously, because they're such machinist,
they should have gone with he platformed.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So here's Gerald.
OK.
Hello, mug club, and all you strange animals out there.
Woo!
Woo! Woo!
Woo!
Woo!
We've been hard at work with our friends at Rumble to bring you the first network controlled
by creators, and two of the biggest giants in this industry are joining forces under
the same umbrella.
No more censorship, no more big tech dependence, no more one-sided contracts.
The time for an open, honest, and transparent network has arrived.
The time for a network controlled by the creators has arrived.
The time for a network that allows creators to focus on their audience has arrived.
If you're signing up for Mug Club today, use promo code
replatforming for a free fight like hell t-shirt.
Join us in that fight. we didn't seek this out guys
I want to pause really quick because
During Alex's talk he says that if you use the promo code you get a free month
Yeah, and Stephen Carter has to be like we can't afford that you get a shirt
So I don't know how good the fight at says are doing over there, right?
We didn't look for the extra work of trying to start a network.
We wanted to do a show.
We wanted to make people laugh.
We wanted to educate and entertain them and try to help save our country.
But so many of you weren't being served.
It was all about scam advertising, dishonest tactics, censorship, playing ball with people
that don't share your values, and we couldn't stand idly by while that happened.
They want to cancel everyone of you and everyone of us.
But because of you, because of Mug Club, they can't stand him and Big Tech wants to cancel him, but you have made him uncancellable!
Welcome the straight animal himself, Steven Grouder!
Weird theme music that he has.
That's the Hora Straight animal! Horrible!
That is awful. Yeah, but also, I like the way that your head was tilting back
and like, is you thought those descriptions probably
or how anyone would introduce Alex?
Yeah, of course.
Absolutely.
Because all these people have the same brand.
They have the exact same brand.
Yep.
They're the same person.
It's pretty weird.
I mean, that, that, we're too late.
It's too late now.
It's too late.
We're already past the end, John.
How do you listen to him say all of that?
It's time for a network that doesn't do the things that you said that the last network
didn't do.
Yeah, it's a little modland in a kind of adolescent way.
There's a little bit of like idealism to it
that I know is not sincere.
It should be more just like, we got you coming.
Now we wanna get you going.
You know, like it's like, well,
it gets you no matter where you are,
we're gonna find you and steal your money.
We needed to do something because shit is bad.
That's probably less of a good sales pitch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that could be worse.
So this is called the re-platforming, but that doesn't make any sense.
None of these people were kicked off rumble, which is where it all is.
And it's not like they're announcing their mug club network is going to carry out a hostile takeover
of spaces on other platforms.
This isn't re-platforming at all.
It's a consolidation of losers,
whose audiences are dwindling to the point
where they need to band together
to have any chance of survival.
I guarantee that anyone who had options
of who they would pick to have on their network
would never choose this lineup.
Stephen Crowder, a couple of years ago, maybe, yeah, maybe.
Then you could at least tell yourself
that he has a large audience and a fair amount of potential.
But after the past year, I wouldn't go near him.
He's had that ugly divorce announcement.
His completely botched response to that.
That went really bad.
And there's a video.
Yeah, that's not good.
He had the attempted publicity stunt
with the daily wire contract that blew up in his face
and led to a really embarrassing feud with Candace Owens
and Matt Walsh, essentially icing Crouter
out of the elite tier of the bigot right wing media.
In his defense, in his defense,
that was a really terrible idea.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah.
Then a bunch of former staffers of his came out with stories
of Steven sending them unsolicited dick picks
and generally creating a hostile and sexually harassing workplace.
And now just this week, Jason Campbell from Media Matters did a breakdown of Crowder's rumble
views over time and it's really clear his ship is sinking. Like it is a ski slope.
That's not good. He's toxic even to toxic people who still just want to make money.
Like if you're a shithead who only is out for profit,
crowd are still not what you want.
This is legitimately like a fucking opening scroll
for a Star Wars movie that winds up with the Sith Lords
meeting together, fucking Stephen Crowder and Alex Jones.
This is terrible.
So you got Stephen.
Then you have the rest of the lineup.
Right.
There's someone named Mr. Guns and Gear, who I have no idea is I've never heard of him,
but I'm sure he's great.
I don't think this is a marquee name, but it's good to have a gun show for this audience, so I'll give it a pass.
Wait, is the name Mr. Guns and Gear?
Yeah, I think it's all one word.
Like it's a reference to that Mr. Shout and Speller, what?
I don't know. all right okay Mr.
Gaming shout something like that I don't know so then you have Brian Callan a fairly famous
comedian who goes on Rogan show every now and then but used to be on a lot more regularly
he's a guy who's probably not on the rise with a past of abuse allegations who appears on
Cratter Show and sketches already.
So this isn't like a big get.
Wait, it's not, is that Brian, that's not the guy from Mad TV, right?
I don't know who's been on Mad TV.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Yeah, it's a weird lineup.
Brian Cullen or Brian Callin?
Cullen.
Okay.
Now, I think I could be wrong then.
Um, okay.
He's a, yeah, I, I mostly am aware of him because maybe he was on last comic standing.
And then he also was, he was on Rogan a
Betcha I gave him some elevated statuers then you have Nick DePolo a comedian who peaked on Dr. Katz in
1996
Honestly, he sucks and here is the clip of his standup from the big promotional video for the
Listen to this don't make me hear Nick DePolo.
I remember him being funny.
It's only 18 seconds.
OK.
So this is how they're trying to sell him.
OK.
You better Nick DePolo.
Holy s**t.
Most serial killers are white, but you know why?
To be a serial killer takes a lot of effort.
It's like a full-time job.
Black crime is just quick and f**king simple.
You know that show the first 48 they have a new one,
the first 48 seconds, it's just Black crimes.
Yeah, that's what they chose.
He has a lot of material.
That's his sting material, that's his teaser.
Black criminals are too lazy.
Wow.
You know, I mean, it's a little blunt.
You know, the problem with deaf, it's a little blunt.
You know, the problem with deaf comedy jam is it wasn't focused on white points of view.
I think that was the main issue there.
So I'm also like, I think that Nick Topolo is already part of the mug club since his picture
was on the subscription website back when I was considering making a dummy account.
So this isn't a new addition either. Same for the next the next guy Jim Brewer who again peaked in the 90s
Go boy. Yeah, he found a new stand-up comedy audience of anti-vax octogenarians
So I guess crytors got that demo covered with Jim. Wow then there's the hog twins
They're a pair of twin black dude conservative commentators and I guess they're also comedians or humorists
So do they make humorous videos? I think they have a decent sized audience
But I also think they were way hotter a couple years back. I used to hear about them a bit more wait
They're the Hodg twins. Yeah, and they never once considered calling themselves Hodg Podge
I mean you'd have to ask them
It might have been one that they moved past.
I feel like I need to ask them this question now.
Yeah, no, that might have been a name that they rejected on the...
It's a reasonable to reject that name.
I just need to know that it was brought up.
Sure, sure.
I only really know them from the times that they've been on with Alex, and I don't really
find them interesting at all.
But if there's somebody close to marketable on the network, it's them. Since they're young and they haven't completely torpedoed their career for no reason,
yet like Prouder. This lineup is trash, and then you have the headliner, Alex Jones.
I found it really difficult to imagine that any of these individual acts help each other by being
associated with each other. Someone drawn in by Alex probably isn't gonna be too interested in watching Brian Callan
or even the Hodge twins.
This network is really in no one's best interest
other than Stephen and Alex.
Stephen can profit off the audiences
that these other creators bring in
and help draw them into Stephen's revenue stream.
And Alex can hopefully finally have some place
to launder his money in peace
So the two of them can get what they need out of this what the expense of
What would Jim brewer what would the name who the fuck is gonna put out Jim brewers special other than maybe yeah
Distributed on this this platform. I know. I don't know
I don't know whatever happened to uh wasn't wasn't there uh uh see that's exactly that's the problem and
that's what this will be in a year. See so see so is he's gonna put it out
that's what I'm trying to find that's where I'm trying to go.
Amber is gonna put it out on Quibi. If you see so Quibi yeah absolutely yeah
how many how many more have we seen come and go? There have been a few yep but. But also this is going to be, I mean, this isn't going to be any, this is not going to work.
No.
Don't work for whom to what to do. Well, I can see it slightly working for Steven in as much as it could help juice falling stats and maybe create a little bit of buzz around him, but it's going to be diminishing return.
and maybe create a little bit of buzz around him, but it's gonna be diminishing return.
It's gonna dwindle.
There's not quality content on here,
and none of these people are good.
Alex is clearly looking for somewhere to launder money.
So he's going to get what he needs,
because this is outside the Info Wars umbrella.
And so whatever, this isn't in bankruptcy, baby.
No, completely different.
Now he is still personally, but that's another matter.
Yeah.
I mean, so when you are making a lineup,
here's always been my philosophy, right?
Sure.
If you're making a lineup that is essentially,
who can I get?
All right.
That's what you end up with.
Try and disguise it at least a little bit.
Sure.
This is not disguised.
This is a, who was available at this exact moment
that I needed, who I could get?
Yeah.
And it's like a bringer show.
100% of bringer show.
You know, for those people who do not,
do stand up, a bringer show would be,
essentially, you're booked on a show
with the understanding
that you can bring five audience members.
You are the one who's going to be bringing people.
Yes. You're not going to be drawing people.
You are going to be bringing your friends.
Because those five people that you bring
haven't seen the other acts on the lineup.
Exactly.
Ideally, it's supposed to be,
we will all create an audience together.
And it's always a disaster.
It's more just in a way to exploit new comedians
whose friends haven't gotten tired of going and seeing them.
Yeah.
And that's essentially, I guess, what this is.
But you know, you have the notion of like it's
creator-owned and creator-controlled.
It's like, that's Stephen as the creator.
No, it's created and controlled in as much as that.
It's not like.
I see those contracts then.
Yeah.
It's not like all of these people get like,
and they don't have a co-op.
That's what I'm saying.
If you're going to, if you're going to say that bullshit,
I want the notes on your contract too.
Because I think you're lying.
Yeah, crowd are screamed about the daily wire contract
for quite a while.
Maybe you should put his out.
Yeah, I bet everybody who worked with Comedy Bag Bang
was like, oh, this is totally gonna be creative.
Oh boy.
Your restaurant contract.
So anyway, Crowder comes up on the stage
and he has this to say, actually, I'm skipping quite a bit
because this was a long, the Nick DePolo comes up and gives a speech. Oh my god. No, no need for it
but Carter comes back up because he's gonna introduce Alex and
Here's here's one of his thoughts. Okay. We'll be releasing more information regarding some of the developments
but this is one that we're all
Pretty excited about and again if it was just business, it wouldn't make sense.
What?
This is a man who was removed from the platforms of Apple,
Spotify, Google, Facebook, Meta, X, whatever the hell it is,
all on the same day.
But there's no coordination.
It's just coincidence.
Those aren't the only two options.
Coincidence or coordination. I could be everyone was waiting to kick him off and wanted to
and then as soon as somebody else did, he's like, oh, let's all jump. We have cover. We have
a conceivable cover. Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. Anyway, you know, this, this whole joke here,
this is if it was just for business who make no sense
It's because Alex lost a billion dollars. He's in bankruptcy and so is his business. Yeah, but actually if you look at this
The only way it makes sense at all is as a business decision
Alex and Stephen are both narcissistic abusive dicks who are impossible to work with
They treat the people around them like shit because they think they're the big alpha of their environment
They are not the kind of personalities that mesh well and eventually that's going to be an issue
It's all sunshine and roses when you get to bask in the attention of making a big announcement that you think it's gonna
Terrify big tech, but it's entirely another thing when you get named in the next lawsuit Alex gets you into
Alex is his own boss at info wars
So no one can tell him what to say and what not to
say.
He's the ultimate responsible party.
You can talk all day about creator freedom, but if his show is being put out on your network,
you will eventually end up in a position where you have to tell Alex to apologize or correct
something and he's not going to do it.
And that can easily lead to a lawsuit.
Alex can't be controlled and he cannot control himself.
And you've now made that partially your problem,
which is just a terrible move.
I just don't even know what to do when I see that happen.
Mm-hmm.
Like, yeah, you know that whole, like, let them fight thing
that people like to do whenever shitty people fight each other and you're like,
ah, this is, this is worse than that.
You guys both would be better off.
You would be better served starting a rivalry or fight each other by a wide margin.
As opposed to trying to team up, you are only going to kill each other.
It's disgusting.
But again, it's too stupid for me.
It is, but I think that they're that stupid.
And I think it's partially based on that sort of faux idealism
that Gerald was presenting at the beginning.
I think that that is something that they think that they can sell
so it's too an audience.
And don't give me wrong.
I wouldn't be too surprised if they sat back and thought about whether or not
they could do like a k-fabe
Fight little fake fight between themselves like I think that was what Croutor was trying to do with the daily wire and it blew up in his face Right, and I think if you have another cooperative party it could go better that's good. I could do that
Maybe the cooperative party. Yeah, I suppose you spring you get on an actual business
Right usually a bad idea and Alex probably wouldn't be able to cooperate with that.
Maybe conceivably and like conceptually he could,
but I don't know if he could carry it off.
No, I mean, that's why it's almost,
that's why it's almost even more effective to do it with Alex
is because as long as Alex knows he's supposed to be kind of doing this,
his fuck-ups can then be turned into part of the,
part of the mythology, you know? Like, yeah, you're not supposed to be doing that.
That's what you're not supposed to do, you know, like it's that simple.
And it seems like, you know, if they, I mean, I have to imagine they have a contract.
And if they do, I think Alex will void it pretty easily.
I mean, I can't, I could not believe that they would put anything in writing.
They have to.
I mean, it's a big company.
I know, but you can't possibly think it's a good idea to put something in writing without
involved, especially while he's personally in bankruptcy.
Who's, who's lawyer did, did you, did you talk to Norm?
No, did you talk to Norm?
Gerald, Gerald's the lawyer also.
Oh my God.
No.
I don't know.
I just assumed he does everything. I was gonna say it's media star Bobby Barnes all over again.
Him and Cratter's dad are the team behind Cratter.
So this I think is just a terrible move,
like attaching yourself to Alex,
and it would probably only be made by someone
who's feeling pretty desperate,
and they really need attention and possibly new viewers.
Cratter's numbers are dropping,
and without Alex, this list of losers doesn't even merit
an announcement, or the existence of a network.
He may be a total liar in one of the worst people I've ever seen, but Alex has an audience,
and it's one that probably isn't in the mug club already.
They're fresh eyes, the of a chance with, which is something that's literally not possible
with any of the other names in the right wing media space.
Crouter's burned all the other bridges
and Alex is the best he can do,
so this makes complete sense as a business decision.
It's a terrible move,
but it's probably better than the other ones
that are available,
like continuing to dwindle in size
until Gerald decides to quit and find another gig.
Yeah?
That's the alternative.
I just don't like us being right about this.
I don't like us seeing this.
Oh, would be called that they were getting together.
I don't like us seeing this coming way far in advance.
But I don't actually think that,
I don't think that that was that much of a prediction.
It's just, most people weren't paying attention.
No, that's what I'm saying.
I don't, I mean, it's not like,
oh, look at how smart we are.
I don't like that this was so fucking stupidly obvious
Yeah, when Alex was going to the
Cratters place like a week. Yeah, everybody involved should have been like hold on and all that started to escalate in
Frequency and regularity
Alex was told that he can't do his
Shit, it is in wars because of the bankruptcy. Yeah, it is absurd
It's just absurd listen It is it is it is to the point now where I get it if you are on I'll exist team
It is in your best interest to not know all that shit about Alex
Yeah, but you should listen to our show if you're thinking about partnering with him
Yeah, you're now making it your you're
Close to your problem
or potentially your problem.
And that's really fucked up.
You're stupid, stupid and stupid and stupid.
But again, I think it's better than the alternative,
which is like, Steven Crowder, what else can he do?
Like he can be offensive into the void on rumble.
Sure.
But like no one really gives a shit.
His audience is dwindling.
Right. Like, I don't know what,
what, it's just a relevancy.
All right.
Essentially.
Let me throw this out at you.
Yeah.
How many people are on the Crowder Show?
Four.
Do you mean as a cast?
Yeah.
Like, like when they're doing the recording, they've got the dancers.
I don't know.
Because the co-host left.
Right.
One of them.
Sure.
And then you got Gerald.
Right.
I think you have someone at a sound board, maybe.
Okay. I don't know. I don't think you have someone at a sound board maybe? Okay.
I don't know.
I don't think it's that much.
All right.
I don't think that there's like a crew.
Okay.
Then I'm going to go with dead presidents.
They need to rob banks.
Oh, perfect.
That's what you're doing.
What if that was the announcement?
We just started to switch into a kind of band of thrill seekers. What if that was the announcement?
We decided to switch into a kind of band of thrill seekers. Yeah, yeah, you know like if you see a banker Rob, don't tell nobody. Yeah, I Steven Crowder and the second story man
Alex's face he does the distraction work. Yep, yep, Gerald Russell's horses
He does the distraction work. Yep, yep.
Gerald Russell's horses.
Steel's horses rest to get out of town.
Who's the wild card?
Who's the wild card?
Nick DePolo.
That's who's the wild card.
Yeah, Nick DePolo.
Just wandering around with a shotgun for no reason.
Nick DePolo is the safe cracker.
Oh God.
Oh, see, the white safe sir like that.
Oh, man. This, this, this sucks.
I'm excited to see how bad a terrible this is going to go.
If the bankruptcy court steps in and says, Alex, you're clearly just trying to do the
exact same thing you were doing before.
Yeah, I mean, you're trying to divert money around.
You can't do this.
It is, it is like if the bankruptcy court doesn't step in,
that's clearly just them being like,
well, I guess there's no way to stop him now.
He's just gonna keep doing it.
So I hope that's the case.
If that's the case, Dick listen to nature is for there,
but then fuck off, yeah.
If that's the case, look for Alex to transition more and more.
Torrent to this.
Torrent to this as just pushing more and more. Totally. Totally. Just push more and more.
Just push more and more.
Until they cannot ignore it.
He's unable to like, oh, I can get away with this.
It's terrible.
Yeah, we'll see.
So here, Crouter introduces Alex.
All right.
These people at these big tech platforms,
they tell you that they'll never come for you.
That you can keep your tens of millions and revenue
or millions that you make from their platforms. And really all that means is that if you're lucky, really lucky, they'll kill
you last. Well, they tried to kill this next man first. And if he's honest, he'll tell
you, they almost did. They did a lot of damage. But if there's one thing you can say about
this man, love him or hate him, is that he will fight for this country with every last breath in his body,
and he just won't die.
So it's with as much pride that I can convey,
and as much surprise, by the way, as you,
in landing this white whale, the number one draft pick
without a doubt out there, that for the first time
he will launch his subscription network,
exclusively under the mug club umbrella,
starting with his new Friday show on August 18th
Ladies and gentlemen
I don't like a puttin chemicals in the water that turn the friggin frogs gay
Yeah, they stole the undertaker's bell. Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
So yeah, I mean, like him or hate him, uh, I hate him. Yeah. I don't think I do. I don't think
I can say that he will never stop fighting for the country. I think he's stopped fighting for
the country so many times in the past. I think he's abandoned us.
I think he said that we all should die.
I think he said that we all deserved death.
He said that he's stormed off his show 100 times.
He believes that if it weren't for the globalist being on the side of devil, he'd be saying
they were right, et cetera.
If they were just like King George or whatever.
He's pro-Hitler.
Uh-huh.
And wants to colonize the moon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I think he's, I think he's abandoned the human race.
I think he's a little bit outside of it.
Yeah.
Also, I don't like you using the Undertaker's gong.
I think it's kind of disrespectful
to somebody who accomplished something.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
I guess that might be a play on the like he's never,
he just won't die.
Yeah, I mean, it has to be, it has to be a play on that.
I guess.
Yeah.
So subtle.
I mean, I don't mean that sarcastically even.
I think that a lot of people wouldn't hear that
as the Undertaker's entrance music.
I can respect that.
I think you're, I think they're playing to their audience though if that makes sense
i assume their audience but they don't do they don't draw attention to it
is true
i don't know anyway here's alex he comes in uh... with the music
alex
jones everybody Everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. excited ever Right the tiger
You could see his stripes, but you know he's clean
You ever you've been to a bull's game, right?
No, you've never been to a bull's game. No, all right. So my dad was a Lakers fan growing up fair
Uh, and we lived in Missouri fair enough fair enough
I understand I mean you've been in Chicago
for a long enough time that I assume that you would probably have like most of the people
who I've ever known who go to games or cubs people fair enough so like I've been to
rigly a number of times I guess I think Nate burrows might have almost got me to a bull's
game once but it didn't happen okay well I'll tell you this then the announcing of the players of the starting lineup of the Chicago
Your 1997 Chicago Bulls
And as much as you've seen that on TV.
Oh, yeah.
But when you're in person, it's so much more, it's a whole, it's a big deal.
Boo, boo, boo, boo, you know, that piano going down.
And sometimes when you hear it, it gets like the height of the Derek Rose area,
where it's like, people would go apeshit,
but there were some of those lineups
where you'd hear that music and you go,
they do not deserve this kind of.
Yeah, they don't know.
They should have like a,
and now the starting lineup for your Chicago Bulls,
coming up to the, you know, like.
It's so iconic though, from the 90s.
I mean, yeah, you can't.
Those games.
No, that's the problem with when you associate that kind of thing with Michael Jordan.
You can't be like, and now, that's Levine coming home.
Oh my god.
No, no, I get it.
He scores a bunch.
Fine.
No, it's not going to happen.
That's what Holy Diver is here.
Basically, yes.
Yeah.
I'm actually fine with it because Rainbow in the Dark is a better D.O. son.
No.
And so Alex shows the lesser of the D.O.
That's fair.
But also, because I was like,
I think holy diver might be about Satan.
I went and I looked into it,
and it's not really about Satan.
No.
But then I ended up watching the video,
and I don't know.
If you guys want a little bit of a funny time,
go watch that
Dio video because first of all I'd forgotten how funny Ronnie James Dio loves hilarious and then
there's it's like medieval themed and he's walking through a castle with a big broadsword and I
don't even know how to describe it but the way he walks down this hall with this sword made me laugh so hard. So anyway, Alex, thank you for bringing that to my
attention. Yeah. Yeah. Also, um, Alex is really excited. Mm-hmm. Um, I'm just gonna give you a spoiler.
He is very clearly on Coke. Yeah, that sounds right. He is, he is very speedy. Um, he could come up with
the idea for a deal video right about. So here he
goes. He's talking about him in
Steven's history. Okay. I've known
Steven for more than 10 years.
Just to you know, back in the
call my show, always a really busy
guy and he's been popper forever.
And but we kind of do each other,
but as soon as I got the platform,
he saw as a threat, he said, I want
you on immediately the day after when everybody else was running away, including my friends, he was like, no,
this is a danger to everybody.
I see what this is.
And then again, everybody else was shutting down during the lockdown.
I didn't, he didn't.
And so it's that type of instinctive courage that I really respect to become good friends
last three or four years since then.
I love coming up.
I love the energy.
Let's be clear.
Info wars, isn't going anywhere or Austin operation.
My regular show that's on talk right everywhere.
But we've been talking for years
about some type of collaboration
and he had to move from where he was
to trailblaze and do this.
And what's incredible is it's succeeding.
Not really, no.
There's a fair amount of money involved
in the mug club stuff.
But yeah, in terms of like the public aspect of it,
he's going to have problems in the near future.
Yeah. He cannot afford to give away free months.
That's that is probably about where it's at.
So I think that this is a really interesting history
and the way that Alex describes it is fun.
Because in reality, Stephen would never go on Alex's show before
because Stephen was huge and Alex was toxic. Right. And then as Stephen's brand got a little bit more,
you know,
to the side of, you know, mainstream
conservatism even, and Alex got kicked off everything. No one wanted to be around Alex,
and that's a prime opportunity for you.
You can gain a lot of attention by being the only person
who's willing to talk to Dahmer.
To or whatever, you know, you can do that.
And that's, yeah.
And Stephen realized that that was, hey,
this is an opportunity for me.
I'll be the friend of the beast, as it were.
That's, what is a real thing
that they really can't even appreciate, can they?
They can't even sit down next to each other
and be like, hey, what a weird life we've both led, right?
You know, it's gone like one way
and you've gone the other way.
They can't even do that.
They have to be dicks about it.
They even have to be dicks about that.
Yeah, they do.
Oh my God, they're the worst people.
Indeed they are.
No, but not as bad as the enemies that Alex has.
Which ones?
He's gonna list a number.
Oh, okay, well good.
We don't just have the left and the globalist
and big tech and the intelligence agencies.
We now know that we're sensory and controlling
and suppressing election information
and vaccine information and open border
and human trafficking information, fentanyl info and afghan withdrawing foe.
It's the big think tanks that crowd are alluded to earlier that are so-called conservative
that have billions of dollars over the last decade to buy and control the populist nationalist,
common sense capitalist movement that this country was founded on the medit the apple
of the world's eye. And so we're not just challenging the Met at the Apple the World's Eye.
And so we're not just challenging the left and Hollywood and Big Tech.
We're challenging conservative ink and they didn't make sense to some people that weren't
you know, clued in or on the inside of what really goes on six months ago.
And when crowd was making a big deal about the other big conservative platforms that are
conservative, they interface with YouTube and Facebook and before Twitter was sold to Musk
and literally sit around a smokey room laughing
at the conservatives.
And I've been around it.
It's disgusting to people that have authenticity,
like Stephen Crowder and this incredible crew.
Wow, I can't wait for them to go after
the financial backing of all these conservative outlets, they're not going to.
No. They're going to go after the media stuff. They're going to try and start fights with
the media figures. Yeah. They're going after the people who fund the conservative media.
No, no, no, no, no, they fund everybody. Yeah, but even if Alex doesn't get money from
them, and Stephen Crowder doesn't, if that is in fact, even the case,
they still are very beholden to a conservative media space
existing.
That needs to be there in order for their shit to work too.
They are like those cleaner fish.
You know, here's the thought that just occurred to me.
And I hadn't considered it up until just now,
but like it doesn't matter what small group
of conservative quotes get together, right?
They're all laughing at another group of conservatives.
Right, you know, because they all think
that everything they believe is fucking stupid.
Well, maybe not.
Maybe not that.
They think that what the other person thinks is stupid.
Right, right. It's that phenomenon that you find of, I mean, this not that they think that what the other person thinks is stupid. Right, right.
It's that phenomenon that you find of, I mean, this even happens on the left too, quite frankly.
Sure.
It's like everyone isn't the real, you know, you're not the real...
No, you're a Scottsman, yeah.
Well, but yeah, it's that, not even that.
Yeah.
But just like, I understand the real conservatism on like these people.
Sure, sure, sure. You know, and whoever's out of the room doesn't understand the real conservatism. Unlike these people. Sure, sure, sure.
And whoever's out of the room doesn't understand
the real conservatism.
That's what I'm saying.
It's so absurd that they're like,
oh well, we're the three of us together.
We disagree on just about everything,
but when we're in the room together,
we only talk about the stuff we agree on.
And then we talk shit about the people who,
when we three leave, will go into a room with them
and talk shit about the people that we are we three leave, we'll go into a room with them and talk shit about the people
that we are in the room with right now,
because we don't actually share a belief system.
Probably not.
I mean, Nick DePolo has some really interesting ideas
about economic policy.
Oh yeah?
No.
So it's interesting to see from that list
that Alex has that the left and the globalist
seem to be a separate group of folks
that Alex is up against as opposed
to the conservative folks that he doesn't like.
I think that could be a fun direction for him to go.
Interesting.
I think he'd need to come up with new names for teams and stuff, but it's doable.
Honestly, this is just the same blather that he's built his career on with the Amabove,
the left or right paradigm thing.
He hates the left because he's an extreme right wing figure and he hates the right because
he's far to the right of them.
Anyone who can't see through that now doesn't have a chance at this point.
And Magnum's mistake, the battle against conservative ink is a prophet driven venture for Alex
and Stephen.
Yeah, Stephen used to work for the blaze and only started hating the conservative institution
because the daily wire wouldn't pay him the absurd amount of money that he thought he
was worth.
Alex is an outsider and it makes sense for him to attack anyone, but joining this campaign
against conservative ink is really the best option because the fans of folks like Matt
Walsh are far more likely to fall off liking Matt Walsh and get lured over to Alex than
fans of like R show or someone on the left that they could start a fight with.
It's copying the strategy Nick Fuentes used when instead of attacking left wing groups
or yelling about Antifa, he targeted Charlie Kirk and turning point, forcing a showdown
where they were able to attack Kirk from the right.
And it made it so the most likely outcomes of this, you know, this confrontation were going
to be swaying some of Kirk's fans to Fuentes aside or Charlie
Kirk being forced to move more to the right in order to keep up.
This of which occurred. This is the strategy that is useful for people who are outside
bomb throwers like Nick Fuentes or what Alex and Stephen are describing this as what they
want to be to stick it to these conservatives.
I don't think this network is gonna work out,
and Alex's involvement in it will likely be very short-lived
since it's clearly an attempt to do the thing
the bankruptcy court told him he couldn't do.
Oh, no, no, no.
So, I, you know, do what you gotta do,
well, you gotta do it.
Hold on.
But, I mean, what was the last, but, no, ero,
I, because I can't think of any other time
in the past few years where Alex has done something
that he's more excited about than he's ever been excited
about. Oh, well, I mean, there was reset wars.
Well, I thought of reset wars, but reset wars lasted so long.
Oh, well, the lead up to it lasted a while.
I think he stopped talking about it a couple days after.
Yeah, that's not fair. That's not fair. He would randomly mention it in passing for a month or two.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, boy, what do you want to, what do you want to bet? Do we, do we throw
money down? Do we lay bets? What are we talking? I mean, I'd forgotten about reset wars,
honestly. Exactly. To the point where I feel bad, we didn't cover it. We wanted to. What was the point?
It was his fault.
Yeah.
It's not us.
No, it wasn't his project.
It wasn't the most important thing he'd ever done.
No, and it's almost the same for his book, the great reset.
Like one of the things that's made it difficult for me
to like nail down a coverage of it is like,
this Alex didn't write this.
No.
Of course, no.
Of course not. Just Alex's name on it yeah and definitely some ideas that
are similar to maybe they didn't come up with sit down interviews yeah yeah yeah
yeah but Alex never wrote most of this did not put up he did not open a
Google doc and fucking oh here Alex's edits for today no no didn't happen but
Alex is so excited.
So excited.
So fucking excited.
I give it three weeks.
Three weeks?
Three weeks.
Because I'm one, I'm giving it for,
he's gonna try with Stephen Crowder longer
than he probably should.
Well, I think the only question for me
is the bankruptcy court and someone having an injunction or something like that.
That's a good point.
Because Alex is in personal bankruptcy and in four wars is in bankruptcy.
So that to me is what makes it a bit more difficult.
Yeah.
Um, I think I think if the bank, if, if, if the law gets involved, then I would say less than less than three weeks.
Less than three weeks, for sure.
If not, I could see it going a few months.
Okay, I'm going to, then I, here's what we're doing.
We're putting the over under it three weeks.
I'll be over it down.
I've written down eight eight.
You're taking the over.
Yeah.
I thought you were, I totally thought you were taking the under.
Well, I'm just going to roll the bones on whether or not the court acts.
And I think that maybe they won't. Boy, you and I have, you and I the under. Well, I'm just gonna roll the bones on whether or not the court acts, and I think that maybe they won't.
Boy, you and I have switched a lot on that.
Well, I think that they should, and I hope they do.
Sure. But I'm taking the risk.
I'm willing to take that risk.
All right, all right.
I mean, well, now I feel like,
fine, I'll take the under.
You want the overfleer.
No, no, no, no.
I have to take the under now.
I'm almost excited to take the under. Okay. Yeah I have to take the under now I'm almost excited to
take the under okay. Yeah, we got three exciting weeks. I think I'm excited to take the
under for this one. You're not going to be excited about this next clip. I doubt it.
All these people have turned down tens of millions of dollars to tell the truth. I mean,
the others people out there like Ted Nugent lost probably a hundred million dollars the
last six seven years of support and Trump. It's's been in the news Just no more stadiums no more nothing. It's over so so so there's not many people like that price to bring you to do just over here
What I'm thinking that you need an independent network that isn't controlled and I'm sorry Twitter is
Better than some of the other so-called conservative or open platforms, but it's still not even halfway free
Yeah, bring in Nugent. That's what this network needs. Another old racist white dude with
a deep history of abusing women. That sounds like he'd fit right in. It really does feel
like this is the place for him. No one at this fucking company turned down tens of millions
of dollars to tell the truth. They're all losers who can't play the game they want to
play. Crowder didn't turn down the money to tell the truth.
He didn't get the amount he wanted, so he decided to cause a scene and hope it came
out in his favor.
And it didn't.
Alex hasn't turned down shit that I know of, and no one is paying any of the other names
on here, one million dollars, let alone tens.
No.
And if you needed a totally free network, guess what?
It already exists and it's called Band-Dot Video, and Alex fucking fucking owns it Yeah, Alex doesn't need a free network that allows expression
He needs a revenue stream he thinks will be safe from the bankruptcy yeah
Crowder doesn't need a free expression platform because he's already on rumble and if he was desperate
He could post on band dot video. Yeah, he doesn't do that because he needs a monetized platform not a free one
Yeah, the play in games. Yes.
They just need money.
Everybody is doing the exact thing
for the opposite reason
that they are telling you they are doing it for.
But it's so transparent.
Yes.
I go to the point where it's almost like,
if they told the truth, I wouldn't believe them.
I almost feel bad for like Nick DiPolo
and Brian Callan and Mr. Guns and Geer.
I know.
You can caught in the middle of this.
Nah, you chose what you chose.
Nah, that's true.
We've all been, we've seen too many, I guess too many of my friends have joined a network
of some sort or another only to see what happens.
I guess the problem or the thing that I feel bad about is like them thinking this will
go well.
You're thinking that like there is going to be an advantage
to their individual project based on being part of this.
And you can't think, I don't know,
what does Nick DePollo even think anymore?
I don't know what's going on in that guy's.
He does not think highly of black people.
I'll tell you that.
Well, that's definitely true.
I bet he's not even allowed at the seller
or shit like that anymore, I bet.
I bet his whole fucking thing has fallen apart and now he's just stuck with Crouter. Yeah, and she's a headlining
Rogan's place the comedy mother ship totally no censorship
You could have just tried to be slightly less of an asshole and you'd have a Rogan level career
Rogan knows not to be like hey, let's hate black people today. At least he doesn't do that
I'm a used to and that's true. He did you see that at least Andrew dice clay was playing a character Nick Topolo
It's not even a character. No, Nick Topolo is Nick Topolo. Yep, so I just heard Crowder's plan and
We'll let you see what you think. Okay, I know the plan that Crowder has he's told me about it
He's told you a lot about it,
is to literally bring on hundreds of providers,
and I guess the long-term even thousands,
and then use the great folks' number.
Is he doing it in a certain way?
Really are free and open to energize this.
So people always say,
hey, have you want your own internet?
Why don't you build it?
Or you want your own platform built it?
Well, it's very hard to do,
but he's been able to do it
because of you, the mug club members, and that gives him an
Independence. So you literally aren't just the tail of the dog. You're the whole shoot match. You're the whole dog, the deep, the brain.
Hello down.
The guy's the heart. You the brain.
The eyes and ears with the investigative unit and everything. You are this operation. And if you get excited about this, it's game over
the new old order. Listen, we came and found the, don't I sign it excited? Get away from tearing.
I was gonna say,
let me came the freest, greatest thing ever.
So it's that the Israelites, can I get away?
You, under, Ramsey's the second,
and they now dug up all the tables.
What you bring up?
And that's a true story, really.
Question.
So in the Egyptian, hiring the crowd.
So, Stephen Crowder and the club in this whole operation
is literally leading everybody out of Egypt, and we don't have to wait. Stephen Crowder is leading club in this whole operation is literally leading everybody out of Egypt and we don't have to wait.
Stephen Crowder is leading them out like the Israelites.
Wow. We have escalated.
Yeah.
Yeah. Slavery in Egypt, apparently equivalent to being shadowbacked.
So we went from the re-platforming.
Not being able to yell the N word if people on Twitter
a network of creator-owned stuff to parting the red seat.
Yeah, I look forward to what Stephen Cradle will
metaphorically do that at the reach of that level.
Yeah, that's going to be interesting.
So I mean, this idea of creating this place
and then having a bunch of people, have their own channels and stuff.
It's an interesting plan.
It's actually exactly the same as Band-Dot Video.
Oh yeah, it's very similar to that.
It's literally the same thing.
It's the exact same thing as Band-Dot Video.
Yep.
Huh.
Curious.
I wonder if there are, uh, uh,
oh, any kind of like overlapping.
Oh, um, band-up video zone by, uh, bankruptcy stuff.
You know, say it's, that's probably not going to work.
So anyway, Alex, he else about Bud Light, uh, sure, go.
Well, go broke. Yeah. Yeah. Now, now here's another key point.
If you look at the 40 plus billion, the Nihon,
Heiser Bush has lost with the entire debacle, uh, another key point. If you look at the 40 plus billion in the Nihizer bush has lost with the entire debacle
with the bottom line.
That's a great example of us saying we're going to withdraw support of people targeting
children and sexualization and this whole transhumanist movement.
That's what it is.
I mean, even you've all know Harari at the WF says, oh, this is just the beginning.
If you'll accept two men having a baby, you'll accept cyborgs, all the rest of it.
Clones, animal human hybrids, which is on the beginning. If you'll accept two men having a baby, you'll accept cyborgs all the rest of it, clones, animal human hybrids, which is how you'll be open now.
But instead of just boycotts, what about bycotts?
And that's what this is folks.
You get all these great shows, all these great
and the memberships, all these great things,
and know that you're part of history,
bucking the system, American Revolution,
1776, worldwide 2.0.
So the boycotts are great.
Pull your money out of the global
system but then spend it with the institutions and organizations that are standing
afraid of. So I just have to imagine that like 10 minutes before this announcement
shit started they're back doing a line Alex pulls his head up by God. I know absolutely absolutely that's the only thing I can think about
Light switch in his hand is like all of this
Exist purely for him to be like I thought of by God. I don't know if anybody is available
Everybody laughed out that other shit about how it wasn't a business decision. I thought of by God
Yeah, it's not it's not fair the reaction the audience given, but that's because Alex isn't really giving them time
to respond because he's just constantly talking.
Yeah, there is the power of the couple of people
or a break at all.
But I actually thought that was pretty good.
Bicot is not bad.
I want to be more of a dick to bicot,
but because it is the type of shit that is.
It's scamming.
Yeah, it's scamming for sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's that kind of monorail. It's's scamming for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that kind of mon, it's monorail.
It's monorail-ass.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it's just that you and I are always gonna have
at least a tiny soft spot for wordplay.
Especially whenever I can't help but deny
that it is above adequate.
I also don't think it's original.
I'm sure it's a term that has been used a lot
in other places, but weirdly, I don't think I've heard it. I sure in terms that has been used a lot in other places,
but weirdly, I don't think I've heard it.
I haven't heard anybody use it.
I definitely haven't heard anybody use it colloquially.
If I've read it, but if you read Bicot versus Boycott,
it doesn't give you the auditory nature of it.
It's new enough to my brain that I thought well done.
That's yeah, well done, sir.
Yeah, that blow is helping.
Tip into the cap.
Tip into the cap to blow.
So they've been planning this for a while.
And I say, not as long as you're pretending.
This is, that's what this is all about.
So we've been talking for six months about doing this.
And I said, well, I'm going to keep him
forwards going the great crew we do.
And they thought, and I said, what's your idea?
And I had my idea already written down.
And they said, once a week show build off that
Then start building some other shows
Painting with the funding we get from this will be able to hire back more reporters do more investigative stuff on the ground
At the border and at Bilderberg and at Davos and the RNC and DNC
So this is a match made in heaven everybody needs to tell your friends your family your neighbors
How you pay by the word revolution? You don't like what's happening? Well, this is the group.
This is the organization that is the best there is.
We're not up here saying, you know, we're Superman.
We're not up here saying we have all the answers.
But you know what?
It's not bragging when it's fact.
People need to recognize that this operation,
what Stephen Crowder and his crew are doing,
is the best open, freeest, biggest thing
there is in the world in opposition to the new world order. And how
you tune in to my show. You're gonna get you're gonna get hardcore
analysis and over the horizon information on what the Globos are planning next
is that's all it was studying it. It's hardcore. No, so you risk if you watch it.
But the good thing is you can then tune in to the incredible amazing you know
better than the nighttime comedy shows, live delivery of
these guys, and they make it fun.
And that's why I like the energy here.
It's good energy.
So yeah, that's my bright spot is maybe this is how we get the painting show.
Yep, this might be how we get this might be how we get the painting show.
Yeah, but then I'm going to have to get a membership.
And then I also was thinking about it, like I have this aversion to covering things that
are behind a paywall.
And granted, I don't respect Stephen Crowder.
And Alex has already said,
you can use anything I make copyright free.
But I feel like if it's under the mug club,
that is a little bit different.
So I was thinking, I don't know how we do this.
Because if the painting show ends up existing,
it's gonna be an experience, right?
Oh, yeah, no.
So I'm doing an entire spin off show.
But I don't know how you can convey it,
other than visually.
So I don't know what we would do with that,
but if you had some other show that I wanted to cover
that was on this, I would write transcripts
and we could recreate it.
That wouldn't be bad, because that's fair use.
Okay, let me pitch you this.
Let me pitch you this on the painting show. All right, we do very similar to this, but we've got a
three frame kind of situation going on, right? So we got me and a frame you and a frame,
and then we got the painting show and the frame center of the frame, and then we do our show
around it. I think we can come up with something. We're putting the cart before the horse here
because we don't even know if that's going to exist. The painting show. We do. We need it.
Yeah.
So this has not been being planned for six months.
No.
This has been planned since a little bit after Alex heard
from the bankruptcy court that he couldn't do
his subscription shit on Info Wars.
Yep.
That is what happened.
100%.
Yeah.
And I mean, the end.
Good luck.
So Alex wraps up here.
Yeah.
And I honestly feel like this is embarrassing.
And if I were him, everything so far has been incredibly
embarrassing, but okay, yes, but even more so this
dismount.
Make it fun.
And that's why I like the energy here.
It's quite frankly.
Info Wars, great crew, great people.
Real bummer.
You are in a bunker.
We've been doing a 20-sup in years, and it's crazy.
So it's a breath of fresh air to just add this family
to what's happened to be part of this organization
and to have the info worse crew.
Now you becoming part of this organization.
Let me just translate this.
I have driven my own company into bankruptcy
and I abuse my employees so much
and create a hostile work environment
that it sucks to go into work.
And everyone's miserable there.
But now we put a fresh coat of paint on things
and now all of our problems have gone away
Yep, yeah, it is a breath of fresh air. It really might as well
It's a breath of fresh air to escape the problems that I've created
You know when I go into a work at a bankrupt company with a billion and a half dollar judgment over my head
I am the what I'm the sole talent of yeah, it doesn't feel good
But out here. I'm not that.
And people clap for me.
Yes, people even clap.
Yeah, oh my God, pretty sweet.
Yeah.
And I'm just blessed and honored, it's incredible.
And at 11 a.m., just coming up
at about an hour from now, I'll do my live show
out of the classic Steven Crowder studios.
We're gonna have these guys in here with us.
It's so exciting.
So, 11amcent, info wars.com,
Forts last show and band out video.
But I want everybody watching.
That means on info wars everywhere,
to be part of this revolutionary act.
You want resistance?
You want somebody to stand up?
You want somebody to fight?
Go now to the mug club.
Go now ladies and gentlemen,
use the promo codes that are there to get a month off.
Do it now.
Go to Mud Club.
Take action because the globalist one war, they will destroy us.
Well, guess what?
We didn't start this fight.
We don't want it.
But if you want to fight, you back.
Oh, I got one.
I got one.
Woo!
Woo!
Woo!
That, uh, his catchphrase was so shoehorned in there.
Yeah.
And you can tell there was a music queue
You know like when I when I do the when you got a fight
You got one. Yeah, that's when you hit it. Yeah
That was that was very sad. Yeah, that was the that was like a
former star
Opening a dealership with that
Like you know like oh, that's my catchphrase And then the music goes off and then the little small fireworks.
And then I get my paycheck and I go back to my hotel.
I got a deal for you. That's dynamite.
Yeah. One hundred percent. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's, that's, uh, that's a road hack gig if I've ever heard one.
So I think, um, yeah, I don't know.
I, I oversold this at the beginning as it being a huge announcement.
But I guess it is a big announcement in as much as what they're trying to present it as.
Sure.
But yeah, this is, it's just another stage in the ongoing saga of Alex trying to like
find places he can hide money.
Yeah, I think here's what's interesting about this.
All right.
I don't think there are any more big announcements,
you know, like the way we would describe big announcements.
Right.
That's not gonna happen anymore.
What are going to happen are announcements
whose potential for going wrong is so great
that they all could be big announcements, really.
Yeah, announcements that are like deceptive,
like coded moves.
Kind of.
Yes.
I'm announcing that I am doing something
that I am not announcing to you, right?
Yeah.
I'm announcing that I have a scheme.
Absolutely.
But I am announcing a thing that is not happening
in order to hide the thing that I am trying to do.
And I have to think, I mean, whether he understands it or not,
crowders in way over his head, like the dangers and possible ramifications
of being side responsible to Alex's actions, foolish, just damn foolish.
You know, it would worry me.
But thankfully, clearly, Stephen Crowder
does not have a history of allowing his ego
to get outsized beyond what is talent really kind of
can cash.
Thank God for that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It will be his saving grace.
It will be humility.
This is what's gonna keep Stephen Crowder going.
Among his many wonderful qualities,
that might be the largest.
Yeah.
So Jordan, we'll be back for another episode,
but keep an eye on this space.
Keep an eye on the painting Crowder,
just face.
Could happen.
Might happen.
Yep.
But until we move back, we have a website.
And do we do, it's allgefight.com.
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
We are on Twitter at the Atonology.com fight.
Yep, we'll be back. But until then'm neo I'm Leo I'm DZX Clark
Do you know what I'm doing there?
Stephen Crowder's time song
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and now here comes the sex robots and the enchants us here on the earth thanks for holding
So Alex I'm a first time color of a huge fan. I love your work. I love you
sex robots. And Ian Tans was sure on the earth thanks for holding.
So Alex, I'm a first time color of a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.