Knowledge Fight - #84: December 21, 2012

Episode Date: September 20, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the 12/21/12 episode of The Alex Jones Show, way back when we nearly avoided a Mayan Apocalypse. Topics covered include: Alex Jones faking a visit f...rom the Secret Service Did Alex learn anything from his disgraceful Y2K show? Does Alex's guest, renowned weirdo David Icke, believe in voodoo? Does David Icke think Sandy Hook was fake?

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Hello. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I am Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, yeah. Is there a catch to it? Is there a twist?
Starting point is 00:00:23 There is a twist. I got a new camera. All right. Moving on. After everybody complaining about how dark my camera is, which fair? It's too reasonable. You know, I kind of liked it. It gave you a sense of mystery. Certainly. Certainly. Unlike Alex Jones, you don't crave the spotlight. In fact, you crave the darkness. I do. I want to hide in a hole and make fun of his dumb ass.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Right. But now that the camera is on, you can see my luxuriant curls. Everybody can. Okay. Who cares? All right, Dan. The twist is I know a lot about Alex Jones and you, sir, do not. I don't know anything about Alex Jones. Right. There's where we find our fun today. We're going to be doing an interesting in depth exploration of a past event.
Starting point is 00:01:03 All right. Well, we were going to do this at our live show that we had to cancel. Oh, okay. So I had it prepared. Here we go. And so today we will be going over what Alex Jones did on December 21st 2012. Oh boy. The day of the Mayan apocalypse. Alex Jones got on air and had some fun. Did it happen?
Starting point is 00:01:23 It didn't. It didn't happen. Did not. All right. We can confirm that the world is still here. We will be drinking Fago today in honor of the, uh, the great ICP whoop whoop whoop. Descending upon DC to fight the anti fair. That's not what they're doing. That's not quiet, Dan. That's what they're doing. That's not a fair narrative.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Everybody's calling it that. I'm clear that they're, they, I'm sure did not put out a statement. Illucidating exactly what they were doing. They did. Oh, did they? It's very clear what they're doing. They've been labeled a gang by the justice department. The juggalos are labeled a gang and that is fucking incredibly inappropriate. Not just that, but they've, because of that, they have had their kids taken away.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Like all of this shit. They've lost jobs because it's like you're in it or lost parole. Yeah. I went to jail for something. Any offenses that it's probable cause to be searched. If you get pulled over and you have a hatchet man tattoo, man, stuff like that. It's incredibly ridiculous. So that's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:02:21 We're going to end in solidarity with our juggalo brothers and sisters. Juggalos and juggalats. Big whoop whoop going out to you. I love everything about you except your music. I wish you would stop saying whoop whoop. That's what I would wish. Would you rather me talk about netins? I would rather you say Facebook.
Starting point is 00:02:37 That'll come at the end of the show. Yeah, I know. But before we get to any of our business, I'd like to give a shout out to our new Donator. Oh shit. What's going on out there? Jesse. Oops.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much for joining up with the team. We really appreciate it. If you out there would like to become a policy wonk, you may do so by going to our website, which is knowledge fight.com. Clicking the support the show button and we will take all your money. That's that's naked capitalism right there. Not happy with how that came out of my mouth.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Capitalism awful. You know what the issue is? What's the issue, Dan? I've recorded with a couple other people in the last week. Oh yeah. By the way, just to let everybody know all the other co hosts suck. And I'm so happy that I have perfect job security. Bitter.
Starting point is 00:03:24 No, I'm just, I'm just kidding. They were great. They were great. But it's thrilling to be back here with you and then also just like the work of doing it every day. I started to get used to it and then taking a couple days off. I'm like, I'm eager. I'm eager for the fray.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So you also didn't know what to do with yourself for those couple of days. You're just sitting here staring at the computer like, should I just live stream me? Is that what I need to do? I did think about it. You may quickly become an addiction. But instead I just sort of thought about cleaning my room and did not. And that was about the story.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I believe you. Thanks. So let's get into it. But before we get into the actual episode, here is a fun out of context drop from Alex Jones. Top French weatherman. So that was even politically incorrect. Should have been a weather person, even though he is a man.
Starting point is 00:04:15 See, this is how far this goes. Back to the dark ages. Top French weatherman, weatherman, weatherman, weatherman, weatherman, weatherman, weatherman, weatherman. Yeah. He just screams weather. Weatherman. He's furious about.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I like the smallest dumbest thing he can think of. No one is complaining about weatherman, especially now. He's a man. We have the Mayan apocalypse to deal with. Who cares if it's weatherman or not? Fair actual point that that clip is actually from a 2015 episode, but you fucking liar. I didn't say it was from this episode. It's an out of context.
Starting point is 00:04:50 You implied it. You implied it. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Up to this point, they have always been from the relevant episodes, but I couldn't find a good like snippet from this because there's just wholesale insanity throughout. So Jordan, let's talk a little bit about the Mayan apocalypse. I want to talk more about this top weatherman.
Starting point is 00:05:07 How do you get to be the top weatherman? Was there a competition? You got to pay the cost to be the boss. You got to go. I don't know what that means. You got to go through all the ranks. You know, like it's sort of like a mortal combat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:18 So it's the whole, you've got the, the challenge thing where there's the obelisk. Don't step to Tom's skilling. Yeah. No kidding. Murdered many a man to get to the top of Chicago's weather man game that, that the context of that drop was that this French weatherman was saying the climate change isn't real. So, so we have to go to France's top weatherman to get some good climate change denial from Alex.
Starting point is 00:05:46 If I had taken out more of that drop, it gets really funny because he's like, look, I don't want to say bad things about the French. Who does? Yeah. Who does want to say bad things about the French? I'm sure it's never happened before. I look, they did that freedom fries thing. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Nobody has ever called them cheese eating surrender monkeys. I'm sure. Never, never. Um, so, uh, uh, oh, I think the stream might have dropped a tiny bit. If it does, I apologize, we'll, uh, it'll be up in a second. Um, so let's, uh, let's jump into this. We are in a 2012. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:20 We are back on a line as best I can tell. Sorry about that. Uh, we are here in 2012 and we will begin the episode with Alex Jones giving his take on what's going to happen and what is happening that day. Naturally. It is the vaunted and dreaded day. The day of the pole chef, the day of the planets aligning with the sun in a magnetic field set to trigger.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I want to, I want to say something really quick before we get to this. Planets aligning with the sun. Now I am not a spaceologist. No. No. Is that a thing? But I would guarantee that the planets did not line up with the sun. I don't believe they did.
Starting point is 00:07:00 No. The reason I paused is they did in the movie Hercules. I want to point out that I'm triggered by Alex Jones doing that voice. Like it's one of the only things that really makes me mad is when he does that fake voice and when he says hubris, those two things, that's really fucking make me angry as hell. You can't add that many syllables. That's just too many. I shouldn't reveal this on air.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Lest Alex Jones start doing those things all the time just to try and make me mad. That would be fun. I would like, it's an uncontrollable rage. That would be fun if hubris in no way does he like that's such a perfect way to attack us because it's like only we know that he's coming at us. So he's not giving us any publicity or anything like that. It's just like a subtle fuck you hubris saying that all the time. Anyway, let's see what his take on 2012 is.
Starting point is 00:07:54 The massive coronal ejections from the sun, fable to vaporize the earth, nibburu, planet X, death comments, thundar the barbarian type destruction. Well my friends, so far we're halfway or more globally into 2012 and soon we can leave this hoax behind and I hope there aren't any mass suicides. I hope there aren't any mass killings in association with it because when you have the mainstream media and that's who's pushed this, running around for decades saying that we probably have the end of the world. I mean mainstream media is saying that.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Giving it credence. I am surprised that we have not seen more of them, but I do have a report here. Some thought massive power outage in Annapolis marked the end of the world. Well, if you were on a respirator and the hospital didn't have backup power, it would be and about three to four weeks of the power went off, the nuclear reactors would all melt down. There's 400 plus of those. There's a lot of real threats we face, but no one ever seems to want to get focused and
Starting point is 00:09:14 concerned about those. They're concerned about whatever the media hypes. Like weatherman. So what a fucking so. So now he's taking the high ground on disaster prediction compared to his so his bullshit. It's going to be the summer of rage is like is fine, but the mainstream media laughingly talking about how it might be the apocalypse to be fair. We only know the summer of rage narratives from 2015.
Starting point is 00:09:46 We don't know if in 2012 he was doing all that stuff. I assume I assume every year is a summer of rage. We do know that in 1999 he was saying that there are secret concentration camps in Austin airports. Well, yeah. About Y2K. So he. Yeah, but that was just responsible reporting.
Starting point is 00:10:02 He's learned an important lesson is what I'm getting at is that like I can't join in with this. I know Ted Anderson wants me to sell this fucking gold, but I can't do it. I've got to do it a different way. Right. I got to try and well, if he's going to be an outsider, he can't peddle the same narrative CNN or whatever. I don't think CNN was saying that it's going to be the CNN was saying it's going to be
Starting point is 00:10:23 the end of it. No, I remember it clearly. It was not the media that was saying this. The media was covering weirdos on the internet who were talking about. No, Barack Obama had just been reelected and CNN was like, well, that's the end then. I'm going to take your guns. Good luck in December. I don't do a good Obama impression.
Starting point is 00:10:42 That was not great. So, but the thing that I really love about that clip is that he's like, this is stupid. Two, 2012 isn't going to be anything, but also the power goes out, nuclear meltdowns within a week. Everyone's going to be cannibals. We know he believes that. 10 days. And that's when we start eating people.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah. So he's still trying to get some fear in there, even with his rejection of the, uh, the fear ideas. Of course. So he is not that the prophecy is going to take us down. It's just the end of the calendar. But if there's a power outage, we all die. I think that most of the sane weirdos on the internet, we're even pointing that stuff
Starting point is 00:11:18 out that it's like, it's not the end of the world as much as it is. Like, what is it? The back toon, the end of the back toon. I don't know what that is. It's one of the, like, uh, uh, lengths of time in the Mayan calendar. Oh yeah. They just didn't make an extra calendar. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It's like they ran. They ran out of time. It's like this wall calendar ends in December. Yeah. It's not like, okay, who cares? Alex has a different, uh, sort of explanation of what's really going on though, which, uh, you might find a little interesting or you might find, uh, exactly what you would expect Alex to say.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Okay. The globalist and many of their Illuminati writers, we had a special report on this last week that's online, uh, titled 2012 doomsday secrets revealed, uh, that Terrence McKenna and many others in the last 30, 40 years put out this idea and they actually say it's the beginning of the Luciferian age or, uh, as new ageers would call it, the age of Aquarius. So this is a very important day to the Illuminati. A very different connotation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And they believe this is the kickoff, uh, of their big takeover. And you can notice they're moving very, very quickly on a lot of different fronts. Yeah. There it is. 2012 doomsday secrets revealed. It's a special report. I just typed that into your NSA, uh, two way spy system, uh, and, uh, it will come up for you there on Google.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah. Wait. Two way spy system. That's what Google is. The NSA is spying on you. And then you Google the NSA. You're spying on the NSA. I can see you.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah. Yeah. I got you guys. All right. All right. That's a bad system if you're the NSA. So he's already invalidated kind of his argument, like it's not the end of the world. It's just the beginning of Satan's reign.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah. Yeah. It's not the end of the world. He is globalist. Illuminati writers have pointed out that it's the beginning of Satan taking over or as new age people would call it the age of Aquarius, which as we all know from a Greek mythology and Aquarius is Satan. Alex has heard a song, I think that down in the age of Aquarius, I just wanted to get
Starting point is 00:13:25 some singing in on the. I could see. Uh, so that's sort of where he starts out in terms of the entirety of the narrative of 2012. But right. It's not a disaster, but it is a disaster and it might be Satan. Yeah, but not because of the Mayans. That's the globalists.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Just in case something really bad happens, are we sure the globalists haven't been around for seven thousand years? I don't know. I mean, they are big into child sacrifice. So we know a lot of those Mesoamerican society is involved. He's cutting heads off at the top of a pyramid. That whole thing. Unfortunately, Alex doesn't have a lot of time to ruminate on this because he has to
Starting point is 00:14:07 do what I would describe as a set piece. I think this is a sketch that ends up happening. Somebody's going to jump the gorge. He jumps something. It might be reminiscent of a shark and I'll let this play out for you. Let me show you some second amendment news here that is just again, absolutely off the charts. The Secret Services here will bring them in here.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Bring them in here. I need a live mic. Okay. I mean, I mean, they want me. Come in here. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, this is not the first time the Secret Services been here. Just nobody talked to them. They got to come in here if they want to talk or they can go get a warrant or whatever they
Starting point is 00:14:52 want. Guys, getting back to what I was saying, the globalist are scared right now because they know that you're aware of their program. So that wasn't what he was saying before, but also I don't believe the Secret Services there. Why would the Secret Service be there unless they were acting in their capacity as protectors of the Department of Treasury and he's been counterfeiting shit? It's the beginning of the age of Lucifer.
Starting point is 00:15:21 They've come to neutralize me before it kicks off the other in on it. All right. Come on. All right. Secret Service. So secret that service. One of Alex's big things that he says is that the Secret Service and FBI have come by his studio before.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Oh, they just hang out because he's had commenters on his message boards that have threatened to kill the president and stuff like that. He's like, Oh, they're just stupid trolls and the fucking FBI has got to come down here and shake me up about it. So that even that doesn't make any sense at all. No. Period. No.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Why would the FBI go to Alex? Give up the IP addresses of your commenters. It's like, I don't have that. They have the IP addresses. Right. It's not hard. Right. It's sort of nonsensical, but I do believe there's a chance that they may have come at
Starting point is 00:16:07 some point in the past over something like that because if you go to info wars, the comments are not to be believed. There's a lot of vitriol and anger and threats. Well, I guess that is to be believed, but right. So I could see the only people who would come if the FBI showed up as Alex Jones. You see what I'm saying? Because that is he'd be like, this confirms everything I've ever said, you would be orgasmic on air.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Yeah. It would be unbelievable. So one of the reasons I don't believe that it is real is because at no point is because everything he says is alive. Well, there's that. So it plays out. And here's the next clip of him talking about the secret service being in info wars studios in occupied Texas.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Naturally. Also, we've now put out a petition at the White House info wars.com has to sign a petition to deport Pierce Morgan for his attack on the constitution. I support that. The secret service here will bring them in here and I'm some chairs right here. Take a look. Usually when they show up, we don't show video of service like, oh, yeah, but the secret service showed up until later it's in the news or whatever the FBI anyways, we're broadcasting
Starting point is 00:17:21 live here. It's probably over some, some idiot on a message board or something. What do you guys need? Come on in. What do you need? I'm broadcasting live. If you're here, what's going on? Is it?
Starting point is 00:17:35 Is it? Are you have questions for us? Or is it? Are you the awesome? Well, I'm on the air. What am I mean? I'm on like 140 stations and XM ones XM and everything. That's a plug.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Wow. Secret service is here. And I don't know what I'm supposed to talk about radio cliffhangers here. Well, at least come in here and show the cameras here at Secret Service. So they'll say I'm not. Can I have the guy's card? Do that. Can I have the card?
Starting point is 00:17:59 Rob? It's always nice to have a visit by the federal government. This is brutal. Oh boy. Secret service guys that come over here are always pretty nice. The FBI people though, one time were asking me, what's that poster of Obama on the wall? And I'm like, what's it say? It's a film.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Um, anyways, I'm, I got a lot of news to cover obviously here today and we're going to break in about three minutes and I can go out and talk to Secret Service. Can I have his card? See, that's why I'm saying guys, we need to be able to wire in. Oh, wait, you have a camera out there. You guys have a camera rotated over there. We've got a camera out there. This isn't a formidable beginning.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Yeah. Well, I'm not going to have time. Here's the deal. This is our longest break of the hour. It's four minutes long. It's just like the last time I go find him in the building where it's like, I'm going to have to get back on there or boring, whatever the Secret Service is here for. This is just him losing.
Starting point is 00:18:51 There's never an end to this. I tell you. You can't prove they were there. Well, I forgot we, we do have a camera mounted out there. Yeah. What we'll do is when we come back, we'll play the piece Rob do and Derek McBrain put together. It's a God.
Starting point is 00:19:04 So that's he's going to go try and find the Secret Service people while playing this special report and what it is is a Christmas message from the Federal Reserve and it's just like jingle bells kind of music playing in the background. Oh, boy. And Rob do doing a terrible voiceover where he's like, we're going to take your money. Merry Christmas. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:24 All right, dude. It's one of those. I got to try. Just try a little bit. I do love. He says, Mary quantitative easing. I believe is. What?
Starting point is 00:19:33 All right. That's actually pretty solid. It's not. I appreciate Mary quantitative. Whatever. What are you going to say? I just love the idea of he's, he's clearly got a sketch and he's trying to improvise within it.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Right. He's trying to do a what like waiting for guffman, but he is not at all funny in any possible way. And he has no idea. No. And the sketch at its core is the Secret Services here, but there's no other big beats. No.
Starting point is 00:20:05 There's no other. There's not. He doesn't have any plan for like, all right. I like it. Like he's just listening to it like the Secret Service took this car to get here. They took a Nissan Sentra. The Sentra, it broke down along the way. So you don't even know where the Secret Service is.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Well, they walked all the way outside the studio. They were asking for help, of course, and we're infowars and we're like, even though you're the Secret Service, we'd love to help. We're going to change a tire. Yeah. We're the best. We're going to change your tire Secret Service. But the other thing too is that with all those like details, if we have a camera out there,
Starting point is 00:20:38 you know, we could swivel it around. All those details are, well, all those things are the indications of Alex Jones's classic lies. Yeah. Whenever he's telling a story and it's like, I said to them, blah, blah, blah, they said to me, blah, blah, and then I told them to fuck off. So the, so I remember an FBI guy coming up and talked to me at a restaurant. Why have I posed for Obama?
Starting point is 00:20:57 Oh, you're Alex Jones, aren't you? Indeed. Loser. Yeah. So here's where the scene plays itself out and no more talk of the Secret Service after this. I don't have any personal beef with the individual Secret Service people, but kind of do they left saying, we'll just come back with a subpoena and wouldn't tell us basically what it was
Starting point is 00:21:21 about. Totally ridiculous. You guys just come back at two o'clock or you can waste your time and get a subpoena. We've had those before. I'm sure it's going to be, let me just guess, an idiot commenter. I bet money on planet info wars.com or on info wars.com and I've tried to tell you trolls this. If you go on there and threaten somebody, I don't know what it's about yet.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I mean, I'm going to love it if they're here asking me about what I think about Obama is some intimidation. What's with this silent P? Let me know. I'm really starting to get to him. That could be it too. Right. Um, but, uh, you know, four years ago, they were here asking, well, what's this about the
Starting point is 00:22:00 Obama deception? And that was in March, three days before it was supposed to come out. And I'm like, aren't you here about something else? Well, that was FBI, uh, so, um, I'm sure it was routine because I just saw the whole bearing guy with a clipboard, the rest of it. So I'll, I'll try to find out what it is. Uh, not a radio stunt folks. I'm sure he was just standing right there at the door.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I said, come on in the guy literally smiled at me, turned red and left. He didn't really look mad. Some of the crew said he was a little mad. You guys ambushed me. No, I want to talk to Alex Jones. And they said, okay, he's in here on air. He's even sort of rewriting what happened to the last clip. And then he was all kind of grumpy.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It do said, he was like, well, you ambushed me. Rob do and do sitting there. Barely got me sleep last night from the Christmas party, hair sticking up. Wait, so the FBI guy is standing outside. You asked for Alex Jones, knocking on the door. You didn't know he was on the radio. No, I don't know that. I got you. So, uh, again, except he didn't, you can come over here at two
Starting point is 00:23:03 o'clock for whatever it's about. All right, enough of this horse. Oh, do you think they don't know you're on air schedule? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if the FBI is monitoring you or the secret service. All right, I think they could, I think they could figure out what time the show starts. I would assume that, or did they get the time zone wrong? That must be it.
Starting point is 00:23:22 They might think it's like Eastern or something like that. Langley is Eastern time. Yeah. Austin is central or is mountain time. So there you go. Confusing, very confusing to the FBI. Yeah, they don't plan for this shit. Also, I like the idea that they would just come with a subpoena. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Like that's how subpoenas work. Like it's serving papers. Like, oh, if he doesn't grab them, then we still can't do anything. Yeah, that's just dumb. I left it all in because it's really fun to see him struggle with trying to make something off air be real. Is he trying to be funny? I think he's trying to be manly.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Like, I don't give a fuck if the secret service is here. Don't scare me. I'm great. I think that's more of what he is. He's getting at maybe a little secret service does a secretive stuff. Oh, okay. They serve people in secret. They're the secret police.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Indeed. The SS, which is why we know everything about them. Right. Well documented. So after this, Alex Jones gets a little bit freaked out and discusses. Oh, did two Muslim women show up in his coffee shop? Did not. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Not yet. He's not as Islamophobic at this point in history because it was not the hot counter cultural narrative right in 2012. I guess, I guess they did still hate immigrants, but they were just switching around. Yeah, they had more important things to sort of deal with at this point, which is Alex Jones fearing about his own mortality. This is how it'll go folks.
Starting point is 00:24:45 If they ever pick me up and set me up, send me off to a FEMA camp or whatever. It'll be out on the highway camp. You know, cause I'm as predictable as a Swiss watch and they know that following you with your little GPS tracked phones and all the rest of it, they just pull you over, say you resist, blow your head off. I mean, in Houston, they've got some CIA on their police force and they want to kill CIA in Houston. They've done this on the news.
Starting point is 00:25:09 You've seen it. They just get the guy out of the car, pull the gun out, shoot him right in the head. Remember that carny guy? Black lives matter. And we imagine we're down there and confirmed it was ahead and they just on the news, get the guy out of his car, stands there, put the gun to his head, kill him right in front of everybody. So, you know, that's how they'll take me out or plant drugs on me or something
Starting point is 00:25:27 like that. You know, some of the stuff they ship in. So, so far, especially fucking today, especially today, the idea that he's, he's fucking pulling this high horse bullshit about how police brutality is an issue and today a motherfucker got off or it was, yeah, it was yesterday or whatever, and it's fucking unreal. Yeah, but it means, of course, the cops are beating the shit out of people, the protesters for no reason, making up bullshit narratives.
Starting point is 00:25:56 So, but sure, sure, that's terrible. And Alex, and I'm assuming that Alex is going to keep his ideological consistency and say police are overreaching. No, and they are murdering people because these black doesn't matter what skin color they are. These black lives matter. People are working for Soros fair. It's just cultural agitation and everybody who's white has a real
Starting point is 00:26:16 grievance and the people who are black are just, you know, trying to create racial division. Yeah, that makes sense, but I was interested in what he was talking about in that clip at the end, talking about the Carney killing in Houston. And so I looked into it. I tried to Google the Carney killing. Well, that Carney guy is what he said. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And so I tried to Google it and I can't like I tried so many different spellings of Carney and like all I could find. Actually, I found a load of weird. I feel like there's only one spelling of Carney, though. C-A-R-N-E-Y I was going to go IE. Oh, no. So I found this story. And this is from Santa, like a city outside of San Antonio.
Starting point is 00:26:57 A man is dead after police say he attempted to break into a northeast side home Friday afternoon. It happened on the 6,300 block of Aspen farm just before two PM. Police say a man tried to get into a home through a window, but a woman inside met the alleged intruder and shot him. The alleged intruder later identified as 39 year old James Carney of new brown fowls died at a hospital. Police say Carney left a seven year old kid in the car during the attempted
Starting point is 00:27:24 break in. Oh, well, that's his real crime. So there's one Carney killing. Did he leave the windows down a little bit? Crack a window. That's a big issue for me. So the other one is a really, I think this has to be what he's talking about. But I don't think it works for what he's saying. There was a. Do you mean it doesn't make any goddamn sense? Well, there was in 1991, there was a massacre that happened.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Interestingly, at a Lubies, which we know is Alex Jones favorite. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So where he where old ladies are always in trouble and he always helps. They want money or they don't have money to pay their everybody's poor. And Alex Jones is the greatest human being on the planet. Yeah. So what happened was for old white ladies. There was a guy named George Hennard. He drove his pickup truck.
Starting point is 00:28:12 That's a tough name. He drove his pickup truck through the front window of the Lubies and immediately shot and killed 23 people and wounded 27 others. Holy fucking crazy. Before fatally shooting himself. It's the fourth deadliest massacre by a single shooter in US history. Wow. So the reason that this came up when I was looking into Carney killings is one of the people who he killed was named Patricia Carney.
Starting point is 00:28:34 So that is a connection to a Carney killing right near Houston in whatever. I don't think that Alex wants this to be the one though, because it was it was very clearly a violent massacre against women. Yeah. He intentionally. Oh, those are those are very unusual. You never see those numerous reports included accounts of Hennard's hatred of women.
Starting point is 00:28:59 An ex roommate of his said he hated blacks, Hispanics, gays. He said women were snakes and always had derogatory remarks about them, especially after fights with his mother. Survivors said Hennard passed over always comes back to the relationship with the mother. Yep. He passed over men to shoot women. 14 of the 23 people killed were women, as were many of the wounded. He called two of them a bitch before shooting them.
Starting point is 00:29:21 So that could have been the Carney. I can't find a news story that matches up with what he's actually describing. But those are a couple of Carney related murders that have happened in very disappointed. I was hoping it was like a clown. It was a clown. Yeah, that's what I was hoping for. It was a guy. A guy who runs the Tilt-A-World just fucking got sick of it. Yeah. Yeah. And then did it in like a creative Scooby-Doo kind of way.
Starting point is 00:29:46 You never really where the the Tilt-A-World just spent so fast. Everybody turns to jelly. You never really hear about those like those guys who operate the rides going postal. You know, you never really hear about that. Well, they ran away and joined the carnival. You would think though that that's got to be a pretty miserable life out there. Just fucking. I don't know. Homemade smack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Oh, that's a good point. I forgot about a good way to go. I forgot about the organic. Our artisan. Artisan smack. All right. Yeah. So in this next clip, Alex Jones sort of exposes on air that they have no editorial process at Info Wars, of course, and that he doesn't know what certain things are like how to spell. Document cam some of these articles here for you.
Starting point is 00:30:34 New York gun confiscation and forced buy back an option. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, and they're just putting out the trouble and remember his daddy. We got him on video. Daddy Rockefeller. Bilderberg, you know, six says that the state of New York is serious about gun confiscation. The Democrat and former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development told
Starting point is 00:30:54 the Albany radio station. He plans to propose a package of draconian legislation learning his is that what he's state of the state address next month. Hey, guys, when you tell Kurt, there's a typo right there. And this is linked on drugs. So the the the thing that he thinks is a typo. I'm glad that he found it. I'm glad that he has some copy editing skills.
Starting point is 00:31:15 He did. He doesn't. It was not a typo. No, because the state of the state address is a real thing for governors to do. Okay. He thinks it should be a state of the union or something like that. Except it's a state finding a mistake. Yeah. In the brain and that would be okay.
Starting point is 00:31:30 If he just on air flubbed, didn't realize that it was a real thing. But listen to this. Just just just that right there meant to tell him about like six a.m. when this went up this morning and I never forgot to tell him and just got caught doing other things. I was still drunk. It goes on. And then these are quotes out of the New York Times article.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I don't know. Just proofread this on air. There's better ways to do things, you know, he was proofread things at any point. Also, I love the ramshackle bullshit that he has. Like supposedly he has millions upon millions of viewers, but it's still like, well, we'll do some. Look, you misspelled subpoena.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Fuck, there is no be doing it live. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a bad process, certainly. But at the same time, he's finding an error that isn't an error. And being like, yeah, I saw this at six this morning. I meant to tell him about it. Let's get it fixed.
Starting point is 00:32:22 It's linked on Drudge. This is for real. This is one of our pissant articles that everyone will ignore. Like the shit Jerome Corsi writes. Right. Why don't anybody read your reports? It's because you're too accurate spelling. You're too on the ball.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yeah. This is on Drudge, baby. So we're about to get to the lion's share, the bulk of the episode. What goes on on December 21st, 2012, December 12th, December 21st, December 21st, 12, 12, 12, 12, 21, 12. Oh, OK. So those minds are really bad at calendars. Yeah, they're not great.
Starting point is 00:32:58 They should have gone with 12, 12, 12. Right. That's what makes perfect sense on our level. Yeah, with our white people calendar. Yeah, come on. I guess it's an Arabic calendar. Isn't the what isn't our calendar based on an Arabic calendar? No, is a Gregorian calendar.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Gregorian. They stole it from the Arabs. I don't know. We stole everything just trying to save face at this point. So up to this point, most of the episode has not really had all that much to do with 2012. With that, Alex, say that it's really just the secret service. Yeah, it's a very secret service heavy episode.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah, there's a lot of just stuff that could have been on any episode at all. But now we get to what Alex is going to spend at least an hour and a half of this show on and that is an interview 9 11. No, no, no, no, an interview with David Eich. I know reptilian overlord David Eich. Wow. Oh, boy. So just for fun, I want to read you a couple quotes from David Eich
Starting point is 00:33:54 before we get into his interview, just so you can have a good sense of the man. If you don't know who he is, he is a guy who believes that there are lizard people that have inundated the elite levels of society, right? And they're trying to bait all the globalist stuff that Alex believes. Just make them lizards and it's David Eich based. And as Louis CK revealed, Dick Cheney is a lizard person. Oh, but was it Don Rumsfeld, Rumsfeld, Rumsfeld, but at the same time that comes from David Eich shit, right?
Starting point is 00:34:23 And Louis CK wasn't serious. No, apparently he's a monster. Was he? Oh, he's super monster. So here are a couple of quotes that should give you some pause about, about David Eich in the, in the very late 1800s, a controversial document came to light called the protocols of the elders of Zion. I call them the Illuminati protocols.
Starting point is 00:34:42 And I quote many extracts from them in the robots rebellion. He, the robot. That's a book that the robots. Oh, okay. All right. So he's a pes dispenser. Yes. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Big time. I mean, you could take from that and other quotes that he's made. He totally believes the protocols are real. Of course. And just like, he's like, it's not about Jews. They're lizards. Everybody who hates Jews insists it's not about Jews. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I mean, Alex doesn't, it says they're globalists. David Eich doesn't, it says they're lizard people. Right. It's all just the same thing. It's just like, we got to. Mark Richards is Raptors. Right. Well, no, no, it's, he loves the Raptors.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Right. But again, he's evil, which means the Raptors are evil. This is too complicated. This is how it works. This is going to dovetail slightly into basically project Camelot territory. As we get through this, so it'll be a little less painful as that. But here's another quote. The whole scenario was planned centuries ago because the reptilians
Starting point is 00:35:35 operating from the lower fourth dimension and indeed whatever force controls them as opposed to the upper fourth dimension, the fourth dimension has tears. Oh, yes, absolutely. Does he not know the fourth dimension is just time? You're dumb. You're very dumb. I'm dumb. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:50 All right. So the reptilians have a very different version of time than we have. Okay. They can see and plan down the three dimensional timeline in a way that those in three dimensional form cannot. Oh, like the movie Arrival. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:01 There we go. So he has a lot of it's that's kind of fun. He is actually going to end up quoting a lot of movies. Oh, yeah, who would have guessed? So here we go. Here's the introduction. Alex Jones bringing David Eich into the program and explaining what out what David Eich's take on 2012 is.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Uh-huh. When systems disarm you, they can then accelerate your enslavement. So government is arming to the teeth against us all saying we should be disarmers. Only a few countries they haven't taken the guns from. And yes, the United States has always been a violent culture. And now which I approve because of guns proliferating even more crime rates have gone down. We still have a lot globally, but not compared to some countries.
Starting point is 00:36:43 So there we can just pause for a second. Absolutely not true. That is every study of which Congress does not allow because the NRA has lobbied them to make it illegal to study the results of gun control laws. But that's like every study proves that crime has gone down. But even so, that's a that's a no, but he's saying crime has gone down too. Right. But these only when you take the guns away as opposed to when the guns go up.
Starting point is 00:37:09 He's making a classical fallacy of confusing correlation and causation because he's saying that people have more guns now, which is true, and crime has gone down. He's saying that the guns have caused the crime to go down. And of course there was that we as we reference that study out of Stanford. Yeah, they came out a couple months ago that showed that places that have right to carry laws show a 13 to 15 percent increase in violent crime. Who would have guessed so it studies that actually look at the real thing.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Say that is not true. Right. But Alex being able to like a B that must mean C that doesn't always. So anyway, let's get to David. Ike, baby. OK, England's more than doubled after they completely banned guns. Not it was a pretty peaceful country before that. Somebody could speak to that.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Ike, I really wanted to get him on and I twisted his arm to come on. He's busy. Right. Another book for 2012, his tiny little round December 21st. This is the vaunted day. We are in the middle of it. And he had said over a decade ago that it wasn't going to be, you know, the end of the world event.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Like they'd said, he's gone and even met with the minds of others. Only one of their prophecies ever said this. So why have the globalists pushed this date? Well, they are saying it is the launch of their Luciferian error, yeah, which is a counterfeit to the true awakening that we do see happening. So everything they do is a counterfeit. And David believes the real awakening flash point or jump point is 2015, 2016 from what, what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:38:35 And that's unfortunately maybe true. That was when shit started to go south as our investigation. The Russians started to infiltrate us in 2015. So if they are the globalists, then or whatever like the prophecy might be, if David Ike thinks like, oh, 2015, 2016, that's when shit's going to go down. Like, well, you might have nailed that one. That'd be fun. If he was also like, it's the Russians, Putin is going to compromise you,
Starting point is 00:39:02 Alex, what you need to do is get out now, get out now. Join the Luciferian age. We'll get to a clip here in a little bit that actually indicates to me that Alex was already compromised in 2012. Okay. I am not sure, but I think he might already have very pro-Russia sentiments in 2012. It's our investigation into that stuff is going to be impossibly long. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I don't know how we'll ever pull that off. But so here we go. Alex has introduced the David Ike doesn't believe 2012 is legit. 2015 is legit. I like how he says over a decade ago, as if everybody a decade ago believed it, but him right in 2002. Yeah. In 2002, everybody's like, dude, we've only got 10 years left.
Starting point is 00:39:45 My calendar, that makes perfect sense. I believe everything. Yeah. And David Ike is like, no, I am the truth teller. Yeah. You're all lizard people. Yeah, exactly. So here's David Ike's introduction into the fray.
Starting point is 00:39:59 After we get into my questions, what are some of the things that are front and center with you today? Well, I just think we're heading Alex to a point in the new year in 2013, when so many things are going to come together. Fan of his voice. We have a president now in a second term. He has no other election to win. We have this fiscal cliff as they're talking about.
Starting point is 00:40:24 And this obvious agenda to push on down the road of the Hunger Games. If people saw that movie, there was a few people absolutely staggeringly rich in a high tech top of the range luxury capital. Certainly that's the only movie that's ever had that sort of theme. Certainly that isn't something that exists in lots of science fiction throughout time. And it's really strange that he would choose an allegorical movie in order to illustrate his point. Well, actually, there's another reason he chose it.
Starting point is 00:41:02 And it's not because he loves Jennifer Lawrence. It's not good. She's pretty great. It's not a good reason. It's not a good movie. Here you go. And the rest of the people who were feeding that wealth were actually in abject poverty and under beyond Orwellian levels of control.
Starting point is 00:41:19 OK, so what's socialism then? You know, it was interesting to me because, you know, I follow symbolism a lot and so-called coincidence that Suzanne Collins, who wrote the Hunger Game books, should be in living in that area of Sandy Hook, same with the connections from that into the Dark Knight Rising movie. And by the way, it's not just that they renamed it in the new Dark Knight to Sandy Hook. They mailed out to the media attack papers for those that don't know. We'll talk about when we come back.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Attack papers, orders from Bane of strike points. And the last one, that area named Sandy Hook was named Hinckley, the shooter of Reagan. Well, you see, if we get really deeper into this, really deep into this, Alex, it's all about the manipulation of the human subconscious mind, which they. So, so not only not only is Sandy Hook a hoax, right? But David is actually it is actually ground zero for every plan that the globalists have ever had because it was named Hinckley before. Well, it's big. Yeah, it's certainly it's them wagon their dick around.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Basically, you know, like the globalist like we're going to put it all in this one place. So that is a very popular narrative with Sandy Hook. Truthers, the idea that if you do watch Batman, there is Sandy Hook written on a map in the in the movie. Really? Yeah, and people are like, huh, that's weird, but it's not that weird because the prop master of the movie is from a new town, Connecticut. Okay, so there's a decent chance that he just wrote Sandy Hook on it because it's his hometown. Yeah, much like if I were a prop master, I might write Hickman or something like that. You wouldn't
Starting point is 00:43:02 where I dropped out of high school, baby. You wouldn't do. No, I wouldn't. You know, it's not that it's not that crazy. It is crazy that there ended up being a shooting in the prop master's hometown. But that is what we call coincidence. Yeah. Yeah. Now, unfortunately or predictive programming. Unfortunately, a little bit down the road, what they're trying to do is manipulate the human subconscious. Well, here, here, here, hear me out on this. Okay. A little bit after the movie came out, the prop master, whose name is Scott Grabowski or something like that. Gratowski. He died. Oh, shit. He had a
Starting point is 00:43:41 he killed Seth Rich. He must have. Timeline doesn't match up. No, it does. He got killed in the fourth dimension. Come on, man. He was in a car accident where a 18 year old driver jumped the median and hit him head on. Holy shit. And he died. Yeah. And that's very sad, but it also to mine eyes seems like a tragic coincidence. Yeah. However, our friend John Rappaport fucking on no more fake news dot com. No wrote an article about how this prop master put Sandy Hook into the movie to tell the public about globalist plans that he had uncovered. And then he was murdered in this car accident to silence him from
Starting point is 00:44:24 telling anything else, which is reasonable. Okay, reasonable rap or his plan to warn us of the globalists. Yes, was to put the smallest thing on a newspaper that you are not paying attention to in order to warn everybody. It's on a map in the movie. What do you mean a newspaper? Oh, sorry, on a map, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. The point being that is a bad plan. It's not great. It's not a great plan. I just would like to point out that John Rappaport's website is called no more fake news dot com. It's not called no more bad theories dot com. Exactly. So that's fair, I guess, but a preemptive. Go fuck yourself, John
Starting point is 00:45:06 Rappaport coming in this episode. Yeah. Yeah. You would have to have news in order for it to be fake. Well, the news is he is just making shit up whole clock. Well, the news is that the prop master died. Yeah. And he's faking the news of why he died. Right. He just has a conjecture of why he died. It was a still reporting that he died. Young people are generally more irresponsible drivers. Yeah, they are more prone to accidents and these things happen. It's sad, but it's not a alcohol involved as well. Maybe it's not a globalist murder though from everything I can tell and David Ike is fucking stupid. Yeah, bringing
Starting point is 00:45:44 that stuff up as is Alex Jones. All this stuff is a crock of bullshit and it's disappointing to me. Like, cause Oh, are you disappointed? Well, whenever you get into like one of these guys, like I don't hate David Ike as much as I hate Alex Jones. Okay. Because at least David Ike talks about some stuff that I'm like I'm into it. Like talking about the hypnotic effects of television and stuff like that. Okay. There are good messages that can come from some of his stuff, even if he's saying that these definitely not Jewish reptilian lizards are trying to hypnotize you through television. I don't buy that, but I do buy the negative
Starting point is 00:46:21 effects of watching too much TV, playing too many video games, that sort of thing. It can be a negative influence. It's not always, but it can be and him bringing up that that sort of stuff. Yeah, he's good. I'm into it. And when I hear someone like him that I'm like, I don't hate you. And then they're like, Sandy Hook is totally fake. I'm like, no, no, no. It just drives me insane how these guys are so close to figuring out why we need socialism. Like they're so close to it. They're like too much inequality. There's a small group of people who have all the money. There's a large group of people who have no money or essentially surfs at
Starting point is 00:46:57 this point. So maybe do a little bit of reading into when that happened before and how people fucking got out of it. But instead it's just like the word socialism is bad. Right. So they don't even bother because it's a globalist plot. Yeah. Socialism is global. It drives me fucking insane. You guys are almost there. It's because instead your prescriptions will make it worse. Totally. It's because of the idea of the prod problem reaction solution, the Hegelian dialect narrative that they have in their head. Yeah, which is they believe that the inequality and the have nots being so that they're suffering so
Starting point is 00:47:32 much in society is the problem. Then the globalists come in with socialism, which is the solution that they have pre made for people to take. And then they're like, oh, we love it. We will take this solution. And then it's tyranny. Socialism leads to the tyranny. And it's that just doesn't make any sense if they're globalist. They already own everything. Right. So they're going to cause that issue. Bring in socialism wherein they won't own everything. Then Institute tyranny, where they will own everything. It's it's it's sort of like it seems like you're you're it seems like they're more just bored. Like can we pull this
Starting point is 00:48:13 off? We're we're trillionaires. Who gives a shit? Let's give it a shot. They're trying to get fancy. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Style points are important for globalist. That's true. It's part of lesser magic. It's like an Olympic dive. Right. Right. So in this next clip, Alex Jones talks a bit about some scripture and then on the other side of it, I have some iffy news. That's important that those of us that are trying to get people to expand their horizons, to expand their awareness of what's going on in this universe outside the globalist artificial box or matrix. That's why it's important that we
Starting point is 00:48:46 work together and not be divided. And that's why it's so important that we support the work that David Ike is doing because the fruits of his work are only good. And of course, Christ was quoted as saying you judge a tree by its fruits and David joins us. So I don't like I don't like to describe to me the fruits of David Ike's work sort of veiled anti Semitism certainly. I don't like the phrasing of like Christ was quoted. So how I just don't like New York Times interview Christ was quoted as saying we're going to take your guns away. So the other problem with this is I'm going
Starting point is 00:49:24 to go to the dock cam here. David Ike in the past has said this. Well, now let me get the story right. The press claim that you claim to be the son of God. Is that true? Yes, you see, the thing is that so there we go. In interviews, David Ike has literally said that he is Christ. Yeah, that. All right. Yeah. And then whenever he gets asked a direct question, he starts dissembling like well, the thing is right. He talks about the Godhead and also in that
Starting point is 00:50:00 interview. If you want to watch that, it's it's pretty wild stuff. He goes into talking about like the color turquoise resonates with wisdom. So if you wear it, it attracts wisdom to you. If you wear black, it gets you hate. And then the guy who's doing the interview is like that's bad news for for monks and nuns. And then everyone laughs. He's like, yeah, you know that the great thing is that great thing is laughter. Laughter is so great. It's a great way to break through conditioning and the guy interviewer was like, you understand they're laughing at you.
Starting point is 00:50:31 It's a brutal, solid burn. It's a brutal fucking interview. But David Ike has said he is the son of God, which I would imagine Alex Jones would not be that into. Well, I mean the fruits of his work prove that he is the son of God. He is the son of God. Yeah. So you judge you judge the son of God by the fruits of his work. His fruits are a peach. But seriously, has he done anything like period? He's given a lot of speeches. What do you want? I mean, if you're going to come if you're going to come with the fruits of his work bullshit, then there has to be work and then fruits. Well, I guess the fruits if he's just done work
Starting point is 00:51:11 and it's been speeches where he's gotten paid. There's not really any fruit there. I'm guessing the way it would be conceptualized is that he's woken up a lot of. Oh, he's bringing awareness. Right. He's turned people on to the global list, even if he thinks that there are reptilian lizards. Some people are heroes for bringing awareness to breast cancer. Right. Other people, lizard man, lizard man. Gotcha. And that's where he's on. So Alex asks David, it's just a regular spectrum, you know, good, evil lizards, lizards. So he asks him, how's it going for these elites? How are things for the globalists? And here's David Ike's
Starting point is 00:51:48 answer. How is it going for them? Well, I think that, you know, if people read my books in the, in the, in the, in real, the depth that they'll see a lot of background to the fact that this force, which is manifest in our reality through these bloodlines and, you know, these interbreeding, so-called elite bloodlines and families, they, we do not depend upon them. They depend upon us. It's the relationship between humans and this force and their representatives in human form of the parasite to what it's parasiting off the parasite to the host. Humanity is the host. These are the parasites. So how is it going for them?
Starting point is 00:52:37 Prosper, my goodness me, we can prosper even more, greater than we ever imagine currently without the parasite, but it can't exist without us. And so that energy, which is the parasite's life force, if you like, is low vibrational human emotion, all the emotions around fear and hatred and conflict and frustration and worry and terror. And thus they have manipulated and constructed global society to create situations that constantly generate those energies. So you can look at Sandy Hook. Uh-oh. So that ended poorly. So how is it going for them?
Starting point is 00:53:21 It's going great. He, he spent a lot of words saying nothing and then answered no question. Well, but at the same time, I think there's a, there's a version of what he's saying that if you want to look at it artfully and metaphorically, he's saying something good. If you want to look at his books. Well, if you take the Sandy Hook part out of the end of that clip and just leave that alone, if it's just ignore, ignore that he said that at all, leave out the same, but if you leave out the Sandy Hook, if you just take that he's saying,
Starting point is 00:53:52 like the way he's saying it is that there are these lizard reptilian elites who feed off negative energy, right, and that could be construed as a metaphorical way of expressing that these oppressive government forces and people who wish to do ill know that in negative circumstances, they can get away with a lot more. If you are attacked, it's easier to get your military industrial complex going and make money off war. That's true. So if that is what he's saying, he's doing a terrible job of saying it, right,
Starting point is 00:54:24 but at the same time, it's like, he is right. Well, it is, it is the global, but I don't think he's saying that. I think that's what he's saying. He's saying he is clear. No, no, with all of the words he just said, he spelled it out clearly. He's saying they literally feed off negative energy like, like we eat food. Yeah, but he means literally in the way that everybody uses it, which is to say figuratively, right? No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:54:48 So you might have noticed that he is literally always telling the truth. Literally. At the end of that clip, he mentioned Sandy Hook. You may wish he had not done that and he does some more in this next clip. You can look at Sandy Hook again, but we're missing the point. If we look at it only on one level, on one level, yes, it's about an excuse to take guns away because of the same reason that they stopped guns and ammunition being owned by Jewish people before they started running up in Germany. Yeah, that's one another level.
Starting point is 00:55:20 It's going to be used to create copycats, more people shooting schools because that's the feedback loop conditioning people to go shoot up schools. This will undoubtedly cause more school shootings. Yeah, that's another one. Another one is to to create what? Emotional trauma collectively in the population, not just in America over Sandy Hook, although obviously much greater there. Because stay there, stay there.
Starting point is 00:55:45 We're talking about psychic vampires. Right, so that's we're talking about psychic vampires with David Ike Ike. What? Wait, am I supposed to be David Ike in this scene? Yeah. Oh, no, I can't. I can't do this. All right, fine. I can't do a British accent. Sounds like a psychic vampire trait. So this is also really like a British accent. Oh, boy. Good call. Good call.
Starting point is 00:56:10 We're going to we're going to scratch that. We're going to scratch that bit. Cricky. Never going to do that again. So I again think that he's trying to express something else, but doing it through this this paradigm of of lizards and globalists and what have you and that is that it's really painful. The idea that these events happen and if we contextualize it in terms of an evil force faking it or making these things happen
Starting point is 00:56:35 in order to get their evil food, it's easier to wrestle with that than it is to wrestle with the fact that other humans might bring guns to school and kill children because they're that disconnected. They're that abused that in pain themselves. Right. It's it's much harder to look at humanity and see it for what it is than to it is to make up narratives about. Oh, no, it's space lizards. It's space lizards and they have to do these things in order to get their food
Starting point is 00:57:07 and they can only eat if we all feel terrible things. So they create mass trauma in events like this so that they can feed off it. Right. Well, it's it's like it's a lot like climate denial wherein if you create this false reality of the enemy is just using this as a as a false flag in the same way that he thinks that, you know, Sandy Hook is a false flag in order to get a carbon tax, right? You don't have to wrestle with the fact that humanity has killed itself. Yeah. And that's something that, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:39 if you actively participated in your denial only has to get stronger. Otherwise you're going to have a day where you just sit down and all of a sudden it hits you and you're like everything I have done has wound up hurting humanity as a whole. Well, and as you pointed out, as that clip was playing, like it wasn't the first school shooting. No shit. And the other thing about like when you talk about climate change that relates to this is like when Sandy Hook happened, we didn't not know that could
Starting point is 00:58:09 happen. Yeah. Like it had happened before. And one of the things that's extra painful about it is on some level, we had warning. Oh, absolutely. Shootings had happened and they happen a bunch. Yeah. And we should know that these things are are going to happen unless we behave differently. And with climate change, it's the same thing. We know we have warnings and when things go as bad as they probably will, we will have to wrestle with the fact that like we know we knew we were doing
Starting point is 00:58:36 this to ourselves. Especially the oil executives who are just sucking as much money out as they could before like they have to their armored redoubts. No, I think it's more like they have to have had this idea from from the research that it's like, well, the worst effects won't be till 2040. Right. So they're like, well, I'll be fucking dead. What do I give a shit? Like that's one of the big issues that I have with all of these people is they're not killing themselves.
Starting point is 00:59:02 They're killing us. It's so fucking frustrating. Or I mean, if you just want to engage with that dumb ass's narrative of they're using trauma to gain psychic fear or vampire bullshit or whatever. Yeah. Don't they know how fucking numb we've become to school shootings? Like I remember Sandy Hook happening and I remember being so angry, but at the same time just resigned like we didn't do anything
Starting point is 00:59:34 after the last shooting. We're not going to do anything after this shooting. Yeah. So there will be another one. How do I how can I process trauma now when it is only foreshadowing for more trauma later? Perfect. That's exactly what the global is. How would they go the numbness? Yeah, they can feed off that.
Starting point is 00:59:51 It's a negative low emotion. Right. So it's fucking insane. You know what else is insane? I want to take your guns away. I don't have any. Dan, I don't have any. Give me your guns. Okay. You're going to have them.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I don't have any anyway. And this is the guy who can't do a British accent. So in this next clip, Alex Jones reveals, I think, I think Alex Jones believes in voodoo. All right. Anton LaVey, I studied the globalist. I studied some of what Alistair Crowley wrote, but I went back to stuff for a thousand years old, 500 years old Jewish mysticism, Babylonian mysticism and looked and it's all the same thing.
Starting point is 01:00:25 And they believe they call it lesser magic. That's what David Ike's talking about. If you do, it's what voodoo is, a model of somebody. And then you stab it and then it makes them actually get hurt. And whether it's real or not, you know, I don't, I don't believe in stuff like that, that it's actually the doll doing it. Something spiritual is happening or something in a plane. We don't understand to put it in layman's terms.
Starting point is 01:00:47 You know, they know six senses there. It's scientifically proven. They know birds and things no days before a hurricane even forms or an earthquake. They have these cells in their brains that pick up magnetic information. They've proven humans have these. They know birds follow these magnetic lines. Well, then you find out all these cultures built temples on these lines. So the ancients know what we've now been hidden.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Yeah. So Alex believes in voodoo. It's not the doll. One, I love the way that you start clips with just this random non sequitur. Like I have all the things that I was expecting to hear. The first words being Anton LeVe was not one of them. He likes the dark arts. And then the other thing is just I don't. Of course, it's not the doll doing it.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Yeah, don't fucking spiritual energy. Don't paint me with that brush. Yeah, there you. Yeah, the doll's not alive. But the spirits that inhabit it are. Right. Right. It's the sixth sense thing. Yeah. So leaving all that other stuff aside, the lay lines and what have you, that's something we could discuss on a paranormal.
Starting point is 01:01:53 At some point, fucking lay line bullshit. But Alex Jones kind of wish you washy on voodoo. Let's see what David Ike thinks. OK. Now, David, I'm going to shut up. You've got the floor on the subject. I don't want to get to some calls and some other issues. Well, voodoo is very straightforward and all this stuff is very straightforward. When you create a hologram in a in a studio,
Starting point is 01:02:18 the information that creates the apparently three dimensional form is in a wave form. And when you look at it, it looks like a fingerprint. It's just wavy lines. But you fire a laser at the wavy lines and suddenly and apparently the best of them anyway and apparently solid three dimensional form appears miraculously in front of you. And, you know, we've seen holographics is being used more and more
Starting point is 01:02:41 in stage shows and and and conferences and all this stuff and on television. And so if you can get to the wave form level of everything, let's keep it simple and save, keep it simple, the electromagnetic field of everything, then you get through to the holographic projection. Therefore, voodoo is focusing the mind. The doll doesn't do anything. So they agree. The doll is simply a focus of attention
Starting point is 01:03:13 that represents the target like a one. And by focusing attention on the doll and what you do and you're focusing attention on the electrical magnetic field of the doll, you can connect to that frequency wise, vibrational wise to your target. They become, in effect, one field. So what you do to the doll then gets transferred to the target through the electromagnetic field. This is the level of awareness of reality
Starting point is 01:03:49 that those behind those behind those that we see as obvious orchestrators of this stuff, they're still artisans and an oil rags. If you can actually see them, that's what they are doing. And so he does believe in voodoo 100 percent and he thinks the elites practice it. There's always there's always super duper reliefs. There's always now a pseudo scientific justification for magic. Like it like that's the fun thing about science fiction,
Starting point is 01:04:18 especially with Arthur C. Clarke's quote, you know, any sufficient technology is about compared to magic. Yeah, that kind of thing. But these guys just make up such bullshit, like a magnetic field. Do they could they sit down and explain what a magnetic field is? David outside, outside of any kind of magic, just like what is a magnetic field? They were asking me if David, I could. Yeah, he could talk for a long time.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Yeah, frankly, I'm asking now if you can. No, certainly not. Not without a little bit of prep. OK. But what I can tell you is a little bit about David Ike's past. He used to be a soccer player. He was a magician. No, he was pretty. He was like a famous announcer after he played soccer for a bit in England.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Then it became an announcer and then went nuts a little bit. He I listened to a long interview with him on Project Camelot. He does a two hour interview with Kerry Cassidy. Great, where he explains that he went to like a jungle or something like that. And he was on a mountaintop and all of a sudden he went into Christ Pose. He had his arms extended and he couldn't move his arms. And he heard a voice that told him, you will stay like this until the rain comes. And he could see way off in the distance rain clouds.
Starting point is 01:05:32 And he's like, that's really far away. He was there for like hours. OK. In a Christ Pose. So he has some obsessive compulsive disorder. It was downloading information like some entity was talking to him and explaining everything to him. Gotcha. And then as soon as the rain came and washed over him, he came back to his senses and his arms came down.
Starting point is 01:05:51 And he was in a lot of pain because doing this for a long time hurts. Right. And so that's when people started talking to him. Other voices started creeping into his head after this transformative experience. The more characters that we wind up meeting on this show, the more it's become a game for me to be like, OK, is this pure mental illness? Is this conning? Is this a mixture of the two?
Starting point is 01:06:17 Like, who's who's where? And with David Ike, you're like, oh, you just have a mental illness. I don't he's not trying to screw anybody. He is trying to make money. He's trying to. Yeah. But I mean, he's a multi, multi millionaire for real. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's one of he's incredibly rich.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Yeah. He's he's very big. He might be was he a good soccer player? I don't know anything about it, but I do. I mean, he's safe football in a British accent football. That's wow. I told you I'm not good at that sense. That's horrific. So he but he's like one of the biggest people in this fringe world.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Like he is the Michael Jordan of absurd conspiracy instead of the Michael Jordan of gambling. Right. Who is Michael Jordan? Right. I don't know about that. I don't know that's all right. I don't like this. So he but like, yeah, you can't you can't downplay David Ike's actual importance to the the fringe conspiracy world.
Starting point is 01:07:09 He's up there, baby. Really? Way up top. Why? Yeah, because he was talking about this stuff in like the 90s. But he's not saying anything. He went on that program. His words don't mean anything. Well, he went on that TV show that we just dropped a tiny clip of and got mocked roundly when he said that he was Christ's son or God's son and said
Starting point is 01:07:29 that Turquoise is a magical color. You should all wear. I do believe Turquoise is a magical color, but for very different. But he says all that stuff on TV gets mocked. And then with he takes his lumps, like he keeps going. And I think a lot of the people in the conspiracy community were really impressed with that. Like he became a hero in that he didn't back down when everyone was
Starting point is 01:07:49 making fun of him. He was like, nah, fuck y'all, I'm going to keep going. And to some extent, I admire that there's a certain amount of it. Yeah. And because he stuck with it, he was on the like early floors of it publicly. So there was, oh, and, uh, I mean, there's a song by, uh, uh, uh, George Clinton and P Funk, where they just screamed David, Ike David. So that got the word out.
Starting point is 01:08:13 All right. That'll do it. Yeah. Yeah. When the P Funk is back in you, you're good. I also had a friend, uh, growing up in Columbia named David Ike, uh, who was just a buddy of mine that I drink with and get high with. And, uh, I thought that the P Funk song was referencing him because I
Starting point is 01:08:28 didn't know about the, uh, you didn't know about the famous David Ike. I was like, you just assumed that your buddy was, I spoke to a lot of weed back at you, a lot of unbelievable things became believable. Right. Um, like lizard people. Yeah. Here's another unbelievable thing. Alex Jones talking about ways you can treat cops.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Oh, no. If we don't stand down and we keep putting this information out, the information is so powerful in its effect in the end. Why? Because it's true. And I've seen this, I agree. I've seen this a million times when you're dealing with bad police, not all police, they're trying to twist them though.
Starting point is 01:09:05 A lot of police are resisting it. When you're scared of government people, they feed and get more wound up and more crazy when you laugh at them genuinely or a place of no fear or talk to them like their children, they absolutely run. Ah, that must be because you're white. No, no, no, no, no. Uh, uh, uh, can you, can you imagine the scenario to do with race, Dan? Blue lives matter.
Starting point is 01:09:30 His argument that he's making is that if you're scared of cops, they'll run all over you. But if you talk to them like children, they run away. Or if you laugh at them, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, that does not work for everybody. They definitely don't say they're going to murder you. And then 45 seconds later, fucking murder you. El Kabong.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Yeah, basically. Jesus fucking Christ. Have you, have you read about the people in Chicago who are, uh, leading the abolish the police movement? No. Uh, it's, uh, very, it's a very interesting idea. Like their point being that the police were really just established to protect the rich people, protect the property of rich people and definitely murder
Starting point is 01:10:09 black people. Like that's kind of where they, they came from. So the idea is that those were their first two albums pretty much. And then they released one that only Martin Screlly has. Yeah. Or does he? Anyway, go ahead. Uh, no, they, they just want to replace it with something that is not inherently
Starting point is 01:10:31 racist, which I don't know. I don't know what that would be. Like would it be just a simple peacekeeping force? Like would they, would we allow the UN? No, that's, that's, that's Alex greatest fear. Yeah, right. I don't know. Maybe some sort of community organization that has oversight boards and stuff
Starting point is 01:10:48 like that. Absolutely. I don't know. I think we do, we do need to, whenever, whenever cops have a black site in Chicago, like the fucking CIA in goddamn Afghanistan, it's gone too fucking far. Right. And they're immunized from any kind of consequences for their action, which is mind boggling the, the, the supremacy clauses and stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Oh, absolutely. Well, and then you have federal crimes, the, the ruling on, uh, that fuckface who just murdered a black dude and got off in St. Louis. Uh, yeah. In St. Louis, the last line of the judge's ruling was it is, um, it is an easy assumption to make that a heroin dealer would have a gun in his car. Right. And there's no evidence he was a heroin dealer.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Oh, none at all. Well, cause this judge, cause just guess what is a fucking racist, but just, is it, well, let me, let me deconstruct this a tiny bit because I agree with that premise as, uh, as you phrased it, is it, uh, in any way racist, if the, if, if you are just talking about the general group heroin dealers, is it weird to assume that a heroin dealer would have a gun? It is not. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:04 It is weird to assume that every black man driving alone in a car is a heroin dealer. Right. That's a bad assumption. That's a bad assumption. Yeah. That's a racist motherfucking judge who just, uh, and God damn it. And the, just the cops during the protest now, you can see the inherent racism
Starting point is 01:12:22 within the police force. They're just fucking ripped up with all of this anti-riot gear lying about what other people are doing so they can justify their unabashed violence against the poor. And a lot of that comes into like the intersection of the militarization of police and racism and the classism. Like all of it is, is bundled together, what you're seeing there. But we're fucked quite, but David Eich does not believe necessarily that it's
Starting point is 01:12:50 bad humans that are doing things like the stuff we're talking about. So easy to disbelieve that human beings can be that much of monsters. Right. He has a completely different take on it and check this out. Oh, Alex, I mean, I don't know long we've got here, but I mean, I could talk, talked about this, you've, you've talked twice here about counterfeiting and you've talked about deceit, right? Well, you know, there, there, there is a, an area of research that I've been
Starting point is 01:13:16 pulling together for some time and that is common themes. I always find it very compelling when I, I see very different peoples and very different sources coming to the same conclusions and talking about the same things. And there is a, a force which is described precisely the same way by ancient Gnostics, they call them the Archons, by the pre-Islamic Arabians and Islam picked it up, the Jinn. They call him in Central America, the Flyers. The Christians call them the demons and so on and so forth.
Starting point is 01:13:58 And when you look at what he said about these, let's look at what the, the, the Gnostic writings from 2000 years ago say about these Archons, that they are, they're energetic beings, but with a mentality that's robot-like and what we would call computer-like. They do not have the ability for, for what the Gnostics called intentionality. What I will translate as creative imagination. It's like you try to get a computer to create something, you can't. You have to put in the information to create through it, you can't do it, scratch.
Starting point is 01:14:35 And so we humans have creative imagination. Thus, to create the world that they want, which is this Orwellian nightmare, and then some, they have to get us to use our creative imagination to create it. And that's why they're programming constantly. So there, this is important. So it's not important. So it's the Archons or the Jins or the demons.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Right. They're possessing people to act all bad because they need to create this world. But they don't have any creativity. They have to allow, they have to possess us to use our creativity or something. Also, if you want to look into it, there's some really interesting stuff. Like computers can compose music. Computers can create art essentially of their own volition. Now, granted, you do have to have like the computer has to have access
Starting point is 01:15:29 to examples of stuff, but it can create entirely new things out of the stupid. You know, and then your question becomes, what is it worth? You know, that kind of a thing. Is there any artistic ability within an algorithm? Oh, his argument makes no sense. Although there is one thing that does make sense is that whenever you see so many different types of people coming to the same conclusion, or at least you just assume it's the same conclusion because you didn't fucking read anything
Starting point is 01:15:59 about it, you goddamn idiot. But the point being two thousand years ago, it's the same fucking idiots who are trying to justify human behavior by attributing it to something else wise. Like the reason that my my dad constantly goes on about how human beings are fallen is because it's impossible to just take responsibility for being an asshole. Yeah, like that's just what they can't deal with. And so it's always been a human tradition to be like, not as demons, demons. No, no, no, no, it was witches, which is not that people get sick.
Starting point is 01:16:36 It's demons. It's gin. It's whatever the fuck you want to call it. Right. Well, and if you want to take, if you, I mean, just because you brought in witches, I mean, if you want to look at the history of witches, there's always traditionally misogynist. Well, there's that. And then also like the Salem witch trials was about land. Basically, it wasn't even about the it was using demonic language in order
Starting point is 01:16:58 to facilitate whatever economic goals you already have. Right. And that's what David Ike is doing, too. It's strange that a lot of the women who were accused of being witches were widows or single women who owned things. Right. And if you got killed as a witch, guess where? All of that stuff went. Yeah. And they had land disputes with the like Putnam family. Yeah. It's all, it's all such crazy bull.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Yeah. Or they, or there was a guy who wanted to inherit something from his grandma's, but she married which I don't remember if that's the same one, but there was one who the guy wanted to inherit stuff, but she was widowed. And she married a black guy and well, that's yeah, like no, that one. That one could not have been more open and shut for those guys because then the, the black guy would inherit property. Yeah. And that's just not, not, not going to happen. Yeah. So all of this stuff about demonic stuff, there's a lot of different
Starting point is 01:17:51 branches that it covers in terms of what it's, it's one part that stuff, bigotry, misogyny and shit like that throughout history. And then the other is not trying to wrestle with the downside of being human. Which is sometimes you do fucked up stuff. Right. And sometimes people do terrible stuff. And they do it and they do it for their own gain. Yeah. Like they once again, convince dumb people to just believe in this kind of nonsense.
Starting point is 01:18:17 So they can get what they want. It would be fun if it was the entire Republican party. That's what it is. Hey, we brought it back, brought it back to politics. All right. So here's some more about these archons. David, I want to tell you about. Yeah. They are, can be described. The Gnostics said in one word, deceivers, their method of manipulation is deception. They are mind parasites and they parasite off human energy
Starting point is 01:18:44 and they parasite off the human mind and manipulate the human mind. This is the Christian, you know, perception of possession, which is true. These things, these things exist. These energetic fields, energetic entities, they lock into people at the electromagnetic field level and then start dictating through that the perceptions and the behavior of the possessed person. They talk about the Gnostics,
Starting point is 01:19:13 that the archons are able to create something that they call HAL, H-A-L, which translates as, wait for it, virtual realities. They have the ability to make people see things that aren't actually there. How do they do that? By manipulating the way that people construct reality in the few cubic centimeters at the back of the brain. That's how, and this is the other thing that has been mentioned already today. And another thing on the real top list of what the archons do and how they do it
Starting point is 01:19:47 is they invert everything. They turn everything on its head. So when Obama talks about love, he's talking about hate. You've got to turn everything they say upside down to see what they're saying. This is why Satanists, who in their rituals, are worshiping and interacting with these archontic entities, invert everything. They invert the cross. They invert the pentagons.
Starting point is 01:20:15 They're turning women into men and into non-entities. Everything is turned upside down. This is why this is the force. If it was opposite, we should just say men into women. Which is why these families and elite families and bloodlines are so obsessed with bloodline have a hybrid genetics. I hear a hybrid energetic field, which is much closer to the energetic field of these archontic entities.
Starting point is 01:20:43 And by the way, whether that was true or not, all over their writings, as you know, David, even BBC articles, the elite believe they are a separate species. They say this, if you misinterpret it, because they have been specifically created on the body level to be energetically, vibrationally, frequency-wise, closely connected to these archontic entities that operate outside of human sight, so that the possession of these bloodlines is able to be far more powerful and total than it is of the general population. Although it happens with the general population as well, as we know.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Yeah, the Targaryens. When you're looking at the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and the British royal family and all these people, you are looking at these archontic entities incarnated in you like if I had a remote control robot or when I send the Mars over to Mars, it's being run from Houston. No empathy. They have no conscience and that they are running this whole society to bring about an end of total human control.
Starting point is 01:21:50 So why? What do you mean? And if they've been around for thousands of years, how have they not already done it? Because they're waiting for the end game, which is, I guess, Trump. I don't know. Why would you do this? I don't know. And if you do want to get rid of total human control to do what?
Starting point is 01:22:09 To be in control when they're already in control. They're already in control. I know. It's stupid. So but but what would they? OK, again, war games, war games, you get you get rid of. We need to have a graphic war games. Yeah, now that we're a video, yeah, we got to have we got to we got to have some more more interesting graphics because we're looking at us drinking Fago not very satisfying.
Starting point is 01:22:32 OK, so you're you're an energetic being. OK, first of all, what does that look like to you? It looks like this. I am an energetic being my man. I'm a seventh density light being. OK, now go ahead. All right. So if I shot a laser at you, turn into a hologram, something like that. OK, that makes sense. No one's ever tried. All right. So you are interbreeding with British people.
Starting point is 01:22:55 And and the Rockefellers, of course. And then the goal is to get rid of total human control. Right. OK. And then what? I don't I don't like playing this war game because I don't know it. Do they get something? Yeah, they get total control, which theoretically they already have. Look, I want to tell you this. This is another instance of him trying to artistically say something
Starting point is 01:23:18 that makes some sense. But because of the way he's doing it and because he literally believes the things he's saying, yeah, he's crazy. Right. What he's talking about in terms of these bloodlines is his explanation for it is the estate tax. They they intermarry and do that because their bloodlines are easier for the archons to manipulate and possess their bodies. So the archons are are sort of demanding that these bloodlines stay pure
Starting point is 01:23:48 in order that they be the vessels for their evil plans on earth. The reality is that this is just a practice that goes back to the beginnings of human history, wherein rich people don't marry outside of a property classes, yeah, because you will lose what you have. That's why in a lot of cultures you'd marry your cousin things like that. Keep the property within the family. Yeah. And so you have these people who are like the Rothschilds, who everybody likes to point their little waggy finger at and they marry
Starting point is 01:24:21 both in higher stratum because the same reason they don't want to lose billions of dollars to somebody in a divorce or whatever. So you marry another child of a billionaire. Yeah. And then there's no real issue. Right. You all have your shit already and you can consolidate. You also make alliances between super rich families that bring more into both of your families. Right. So that is why they do it.
Starting point is 01:24:44 It's not because of archon possession. It's a pathological need to keep stuff. Now we get back to where he's accidentally kind of advocating for socialism because he wants to stop this archon possession and all that shit in the blood lines, which would involve disruption of the blood lines or whatever. Right. And we would too. Which is why he wants to raise the estate tax to a much higher percentage and it should be after two million instead of five.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I don't disagree with that. But I think that that would be great if he has this whole magical world view, very sensible solutions to it. Like, listen, all these fucking energetic beings are taking all of our money. They're pulling all of this bullshit. And that's why I think we need to return to the new deal and we need to establish a 95 percent tax on the wealthy. Right. And you're like, I like you.
Starting point is 01:25:41 You're crazy. But you're crazy. Yeah. I like you. You know what I've been thinking about? I've been thinking a lot about the idea that people like Alex Jones and people of the libertarian bent like to get into, which is the idea that if you make it, like if you take, if you tax super rich people, then there'll be no incentive to be super rich. Yeah. And that makes perfect.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Well, but my response to that is good. I don't think that there should be an incentive to have 20 billion dollars or whatever. Right. I think that as I've seen, our friend Katie McVeigh has posted this a couple times. I think it's a really good way of putting it. The choice of being super wealthy is a morally suspicious choice. Yeah. And I kind of agree with that. That's very brilliant.
Starting point is 01:26:24 If you have over 10 million dollars and you're charged 100 percent tax over 10 million dollars that you make in a year, that does not de-incentivize people to make businesses. That doesn't de-incentivize people to be reasonably wildly successful. What it does is be like, if you make over 10 million dollars in a year, you're probably fucking something up. 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:49,600 You're probably doing something illegal or at least like, why do you need to do that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:49 And if you make over 10 million dollars a year and don't want to pay that in taxes, everything over 10 million, give it to charity. Problem solves itself. Yeah. Anyway. Well, and not just that, but if you are de-incentivized to get a billion dollars instead of 10 million, that opens up more space in the market for somebody else to try and get some of that 10 million dollars.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Right. Or if Apple or if Google is like a 70 billion dollar company or whatever, and they only got to keep 10 million, all of a sudden we have so many. 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:19,760 The company doesn't get to keep 10 million. I know. I mean, I mean the people, but they don't want to grow as big. Well, or they do, and they would want to pay their fucking employees.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Exactly. You know. It would incentivize taking care of everybody a little bit more because then if you're so against paying taxes, you can get around that in operating costs by paying people, reasonable amount of money. 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:40,720 Absolutely. So anyway.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Dan, you're crazy. I fully support. You're crazy. You're a lizard man. You're a lizard man. I've been possessed by the Archons or the Dark Carnival, one of the two. All right. Whoop, whoop, to my homies.
Starting point is 01:27:53 All right. Anyway, this is why we should never have given you a webcam. So in our estimation, David Eich is maybe trying to express some reasonable things, but in a crazy way. Yeah. And we're not the only people who think David Eich is crazy. Here's what, here's what Alex says to him. This is, this is bizarre for him to be saying that I like it.
Starting point is 01:28:13 I remember first reading one of your books, like 18 years ago, I think it was your first book and my cousin, Buckley Hammond. Buckley. So you got to read this. This guy knows what's going on. My cousin is just really, really intelligent. I read it and I said, well, some of this is true, but this guy's a lunatic. And, and you know, I said a few things like that 17 years ago on the air and I've apologized.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Doesn't mean I totally, none of us are out about everything, but I know that you're really onto something. And because I'm hearing about all this occultism and all this stuff. I mean, when I snuck into Bohemian Grove 12 years ago, I was still so naive. I thought when Channel 4 paid me to sneak in, because they were too scared to do it, because I'd snuck into some military bases. So they thought, well, you'll sneak into this. And I thought it was all made up.
Starting point is 01:28:55 I didn't think elites were really devil worshiping. Really 12 years ago, David, I didn't even know that. So that flies in the face of how he presented everything back then and the entire documentary. He goes in expecting to find proof that they're worshiping the devil. So that's a lie, but he accidentally let slip that perhaps even planning to find proof. Right. And as John Ronson has said, that is basically what he did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:19 He was thrilled to misrepresent the things that he found in order to prove his thesis of devil worship. Right. But the other thing he let slip that some TV station paid him to sneak in. I don't think I've ever heard him mention that. No. Are you sure that, man, that sounds like a lie though, right? It's hard to say.
Starting point is 01:29:38 With him, it's always either a lie or an accident. Yeah. I think it's true, because the lie wouldn't be someone else paid me to do it. Yeah, that's true. That takes away from the credibility of the documentary. Yeah, that's true. Now at this point has a financial incentive to make it more bullshit. But was it broadcast by any TV station?
Starting point is 01:30:00 No, I don't think, no, but the people who were along with him were from channel. There were a couple of people from channel four, I believe. That's true. That's true. So they broadcast their own thing and maybe use some of his footage, but his documentary wasn't broadcast on TV or anything. Gotcha. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:15 That's weird. I'm suspicious. Right. Pretty suspicious. Nah. So there's next. Not at all. This next clip is even more suspicious.
Starting point is 01:30:23 So we've, we've documented in 2015 and 2017 some incredibly pro Russia positions on Alex's part. He may or may not have had interaction with Russian intelligence. Yep. He consistently thinks Putin is the last thing standing between us and the anti-Christ. Yep. And here is one of his comments on Russian propaganda back in 2012. Love it. I linked to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts article about how he went on RT.
Starting point is 01:30:54 And RT was funded by hundreds of millions of dollars of Russian government money. And you know, I've gone on Iranian TV, British TV, French TV, Japanese TV many times, Brazilian TV. I mean, if it's Skype and easy or satellite and quick, I'll do it. I'm so busy nowadays. I don't even really go on US television when they call me. Or they stop calling. Just because half the time they cancel you by the time you get there and you get to talk for two minutes.
Starting point is 01:31:19 I mean, it's pretty much pointless. Take my ball and go home. But RT, you know, was interviewed me many times and do little five, 10 minute interviews, but I could actually just say whatever I wanted to. Because I was told by multiple people that worked there that the director of RT America, I haven't checked if they've changed who it is. I was suspect. I would suspect they had was anti-New World Order and was a listener.
Starting point is 01:31:39 And you saw the libertarians and constitutionalists on there. It was wild. Yep. So he in the beginning of that clip, he admits that RT was founded with millions of dollars of Russian money. It is a Russian state media outlet. Now that's not necessary. You know, like the BBC takes public funds as well. So does like some of our voice of America.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Yeah, it is. It is definitely okay for a government to invest in a media outlet. That's fine. Now the way they do it is important. Not at all. Or how they, yeah. I definitely think that there is no financial incentive or violent incentive to support everything the Russian government says.
Starting point is 01:32:22 That sounds crazy. And so Alex, even admitting that he understands that it's, you know, state media still is like. They let me say whatever I want to say. And they told me that the head is a listener. Yeah. And that I'm right on. I feel like you could go on the show and if you started with Alex, I love your show. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:41 You could then say everything that you say is a lie. And he'd be like, you know what? You might have a point there. I think I could. If you love me, I love you. I think I could tweet at him and be like, we're big fans. Can we get a retweet? And he might retweet it.
Starting point is 01:32:53 That'd be hilarious. I'm not sure because I don't know how active he is on Twitter, but so he gets into that's why you got to tweet at Buckley. He's so lonely. Buckley gets it though. He was early on the David Eich train. So in this next clip, Alex Jones, even Alex says, oh, this guy's a lunatic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:12 Maybe take your own advice. Alex, Alex was a little smarter back then apparently. So in this next clip, Alex Jones has some thoughts about the NRA, which are kind of interesting. He's against him. The NRA to a great extent is a loyal opposition. It was created by the federal government. As I know, you know, you know that, right?
Starting point is 01:33:30 Post civil war. So yes, we're in deep trouble. So not true. That is what Alex Jones says on December 21st, 2012. Now let's go. It's not true, but let's go to what he said on June 19th, 2015. Stop getting weird. Thanks for joining us on this Friday edition.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Alex Jones here live. I'll be live this Sunday, 4 to 6 PM central. You're watching us on TV. I have two HD firearms, two head down firearms, both 556 in front of me. This is a plug to just illustrate these guns aren't going to shoot anybody. These rifles, these weapons aren't going to attack anybody by themselves. And I know that's an idiotically obvious thing to say. But look at the logic of the people demonizing gun owners.
Starting point is 01:34:17 They're now saying gun ownership is racist. Yep. No disarming black people in the south at the end of the civil war. That was racist. The first gun laws were racist. Saying the NRA was a racist organization is again upside down. It's a total fraud. I'm not even going to get into the NRA's history.
Starting point is 01:34:39 But everybody who's informed knows it was founded to arm blacks to fight the Ku Klux Klan. Again. And the party of the Ku Klux Klan, the Democrats, won our guns. So Alex Jones just makes shit up whenever he wants in order to... Those are contradictory. Unless I guess you could say that the NRA was created by the federal government in order to arm black people to fight the KKK. All of it's not true.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Even though the federal government at the same time was passing racist gun laws to keep guns away from black people. Right. So the government is founding the NRA and keeping black people from getting guns. The magical part about it is it's all lies. Like all of it isn't true. The history of the NRA is none of those. And we've covered the history of the NRA.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Yeah, we did. We can find that in the past episode. But I just wanted to play that clip again to illustrate like he's just, he's never not making stuff up. It's just... Anyway. Whatever fits within his narrative at any given point in time. The narrative du jour.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Yeah. He will just... He does, though, make it so his points are so malleable that he can turn it into whatever he wants at any given point in time. That's just called plausible deniability. Yeah. That's not impressive. And once again, every time somebody or a Republican goes,
Starting point is 01:35:59 you know, Democrats are the party of the KKK. Go fuck yourself. Read an actual fucking history book. Right. Please. Just do it. Learn about how parties have changed over time. Immediately fall.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Like, well, the wigs are actually rep... Fuck you. Come on. Lincoln wasn't a Republican. Or... Fuck yourself. Or if anybody nowadays tells you that they're a classical liberal. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:23 Run. Fuck off. Run. 01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,640 Because they are a liar and a libertarian. Right. That means you got to get out of there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:31 So we have one more... I mean, even Trump isn't a Republican. He's a member of the know nothing party. He's a classical liberal. Yeah. Classical liberal. Fucking piece of shit. Wow.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Also, I should point this out, over like last week or, you know, whenever this airs, it will have been last week, Alex Jones... Oh, another school was shot up, too. Oh, yeah, that too. Alex Jones has come out and said that he might support the Rock against Trump. Yeah. I'm a big fan of that. That's trolling.
Starting point is 01:36:58 I think we can get together on that one. That's trolling. Don't believe him. No, it's not trolling. Yeah, he's fucking around. What? Alex? No.
Starting point is 01:37:05 He made it out of... Don't take that seriously. He's trying to get headlines. Yeah. So in our last clip, we have... See what I'm saying about school shootings? Like, we just toss it off now. I mean, we just did.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Yeah, I know. Terrible. It's horrific, but it's like, you barely even saw it on the news. It's just like, oh, it's another school shooting. Nobody's going to do anything about it. We're just going to watch more kids die. Every fucking time. Alex's argument would be that that means it was a real shooting
Starting point is 01:37:33 and not a false flag because it didn't get a lot of press. Okay. Because the real ones you don't talk about. You don't want to give attention to them. Right, right. I don't want to go down that line because I think it's stupid. No. And I want to play this last clip.
Starting point is 01:37:45 It's a delight. And it's one of those every now and again, we get to do an episode where the parting shot, like the last clip, is perfect. And this is perfect. Okay. This is great. This is Alex being a dumb, dumb Alex man.
Starting point is 01:38:01 He's finished his interview with David Eich. He's gone. They've talked a lot about Arkons and all that shit. Naturally. And here's- We're all Arkonic at this point. Here is how he tries to end the broadcast. And this tickles me.
Starting point is 01:38:15 We live in a world of wonderment and just incredible opportunity. And the only reason evil is in charge is because good men and women do nothing. Fair. And I know you know that, but I would encourage everybody to take this opportunity. This Christmas that we have right now, time with our families,
Starting point is 01:38:36 even if it is a globalist holiday now, we can make it into something good to give the gift of truth. Whether it's a copy of one of my films or a M4's magazine subscription that also supports our broadcast or a M4's news. 40% off Easter sale. Dot com membership.
Starting point is 01:38:53 You can get 10 of them for $5.95 a month and then give them as gifts. Do it. With one username and passcode, all your Christmas shopping done right there and not battling the crazy crowds and all the car wrecks at prisonplanet.tv. Let's try to scare you away from school or something.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Put a card and give it to somebody and say, hey, check out this documentary, nightly news, alternative media system. And wake them up. Wake them up. Do it. Yeah. So that's great though.
Starting point is 01:39:21 This Christmas, even though it's been taken over by the globalists, make sure you celebrate it in a capitalist way by buying and giving my products away. Not granted it's capitalism, but it'll wake them up. It's the truth. It's the truth.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Alternative media system. But isn't that, that to me is perfect. That's such an encapsulation of what Alex Jones is. Yeah. Like it has everything in there. Right. Like it has the fear, like car wrecks. You know, car wrecks.
Starting point is 01:39:47 Every time I go to the store, car wrecks. Their cars are just littering our streets. My streets are lousy with cars. Oh, ridiculous. Yeah. Then we've got the Christmas and it's been taken over. It's a Christian holiday. It's been taken over by the globalists.
Starting point is 01:40:01 There's a war on Christmas. Oh, absolutely. And then at the same time, he very much in the complete opposite direction just goes, and we should celebrate it the way the globalists have told us to by buying shit. By buying shit. But from me.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Yeah, exactly. From me, because eventually I will take down the globalists. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Christmas we'll be happy forever. Right. And then all the who's and who fell. There's no way he would want to take down the globalists because then nobody would buy his shit.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Right. I don't think he has a place in the world after the globalists. No. But that's why, like, I mean, that's why he does the things that we create our own enemies. That's really what it is. Yeah, exactly. We haven't.
Starting point is 01:40:44 We picked a real one, unfortunately. Right, right. We're just trying to get through what is real and what is fake about him. Yeah. The real person. But yeah, that's what he did on December 21st, 2012. I do respect and admire that at least he wasn't getting
Starting point is 01:41:01 into the Nabooru is right behind the sun. And that's why you can't see it. It's about to come and fuck our shit up. It's how it works. I respect that he. It's right behind the sun is a great. That's what a lot of people said. It's right behind it.
Starting point is 01:41:14 It's like, why? The earth isn't moving at all. It's not going around. That it's right behind the sun. That's what a lot of arguments were for, like, why you couldn't see it. It's like, oh, it's being hidden by the sun. So if you stare up, if you have a telescope
Starting point is 01:41:27 and you look up, the sun will be too bright for you to see the bright Nabooru right there coming for us. It sounds about right. So at least Alex wasn't on that tip. But I mean, first of all, David Ike is wacky and allowing him to just like throw all this shit around about our cons on and just being like, yep, you're great. I used to think you're crazy, but now you're great.
Starting point is 01:41:48 That's irresponsible. How many how many of these people secret service wasn't there? They're outside, but I want to bring this to current day because on last week on the Wednesday episode, I believe he had a guy on who was pitching September 23 2017 doomsday conspiracies. Good. So he's never.
Starting point is 01:42:11 He's learned his lesson about why to K is he just going to replay the the December 21st 2012 episode on that day, just like maybe, well, we already got this one covered. Let's just really redo that. Guys, I'm taking the day off. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, he's learned the lesson of why to K,
Starting point is 01:42:27 which is that can never do that again. People made fun of me hard. Yeah. He can't do that. But what he can do is give it, you know, like, hey, everyone wants to be scared. So let's give him like a little bit of a different fear. Let's talk about demonic entities possessing the elites
Starting point is 01:42:44 or something like that. Makes sense. And then now in 2017, the version that he's doing is all right, I do want to do the Y2K stuff again, but I can't do it. It was so good. I have to let my guests do it and then make clear that I don't know if I believe them or not.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Right. I have to play the fence and let my guests be crazy. And that's kind of what he's doing now, even though he's still going to at some point be like, no, you're absolutely right. Well, I mean, this September 23rd, 2017 thing is what is the doomsday theory on that? It's too complicated.
Starting point is 01:43:17 I've been over it on the show a bunch. I'll tell you after the show. But it's a replay also of September 23rd, 2015. They did this back then. And we've heard Alex talking about that in our investigation. It's the Blood Moon stuff. It's the Jewish calendar in Blood Moon. Oh, for fuck's sake.
Starting point is 01:43:33 But now it's two years delayed because I guess King Herod needed to kill all the two year olds or everybody under two years old in the Bible. Oh, so we got some wiggle room. Right. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:46 Or maybe we didn't get the date perfect. There's always a loophole there. Or we're making shit up. The calendar wasn't built until like 400 AD or whatever the fuck you want to call it. Yeah. Or we're making shit up to get YouTube hits, which is more likely.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Yeah. What's going on? So something that doesn't get many YouTube hits is us. How many? How many? No, I'm not going to let you do this bit. It was a good transition. Until you do the, until you do it in a British accent.
Starting point is 01:44:11 This show goes on. Boy, Goughnaught. This show goes on. Hey, Goughnaught, we got a website now. How many of these people do you think if we just had a psychiatrist in time? You know, like time traveling psychiatrist? Well, all right.
Starting point is 01:44:24 All right. Again, next movie. Okay. This is going to be great. All right. The avalanches could do the theme song. That would be fantastic. Frontier psychiatrist.
Starting point is 01:44:31 Absolutely. That boy needs therapy. Psycho somatic. No, it's like with David Ike. That moment that he describes is very clearly like. You're talking about the on the mountain with the arms. 01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:43,680 Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:43 That's that's you have obsessive compulsive disorder. Or a break. You have a psychotic break. Exactly. Or with Alex Jones. Like if you had gotten to him immediately after all of his many brain damage situations. After he was under that house.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Or after he, you know, once he started getting those schizophrenic images in his head, imagine if you had an antipsychotic in him. Like how how normal would he be? Like all of these people. My man, I don't think I don't think he'd ever be normal. No, I'm just, I'm this is. And God bless him for it.
Starting point is 01:45:17 We don't want normal. This is a postulation. Okay. But it is all of these people or fucking go back in time. And how many of those religious figures is it just like, Oh, well, if you had some epileptic medication, we wouldn't have Christianity like that kind of shit. Well, I mean, sure.
Starting point is 01:45:32 But if you didn't, if like shamans didn't take substances, they wouldn't have like cool religious traditions in native culture. Yeah, that's true. So I mean, those are more fun because they're getting high. You know, instead of just being crazy. Alex is getting high. That's just on just once a year during a blood moon. Well, and during every show with brain force and superman vitality.
Starting point is 01:45:54 That's true. So yeah, yeah, transition out of that asshole. I don't know. I don't know if having a psychiatrist would help because I think in a lot of the instances you described, the damage is already done. Yeah. And they would be incredibly resistant to any kind of help. Like David, that's, that's the point of it.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Is that all of these people also hate psychiatrists like, like the Scientologists and all of that. David, like after he came down from that mountain doing the Christ pose and you tried to tell him he was crazy, he would be like, you're another person telling me I'm crazy. And I know that I'm not because that voice talking to me on the mountain told me I'm not. Well, that's why you just hide in the bushes.
Starting point is 01:46:32 And you're acting as a different voice. David, don't listen to that guy. He's a dick. Just try and pull it off. That mountain voice is trolling you. I don't think it would work. I don't think you'd start a flea more with God. I don't think it would work.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Something that does work is our website. Oh, God damn it. Great transition. You son of a bitch. You should check us out over at knowledgefight.com. You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. Correct. We're also on Facebook.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Absolutely. And if you're watching this, you can tell that we are on twitch.tv slash knowledge fight. Yep. We are there most weekdays at eight PM and we'll do some weekend broadcasts as is available with our schedules. But we definitely appreciate everyone getting on board at that.
Starting point is 01:47:19 This is super fun. We're going to figure out exactly what we're going to do with releasing these as podcasts and as the broadcast. But I mean, it's only been a week. We haven't quite figured out what the, what would be too much. Right. What is appropriate. So thanks for bearing with us while we figure that out.
Starting point is 01:47:35 But a number of our episodes will are available on iTunes. You can check us out there. What? Dan just knocked over for Breeze. I did. That's why. It was wrapped up in my mic cord. I am very easily startled.
Starting point is 01:47:47 You were scared. It didn't even make a noise. I just saw it go down and I'm like, fuck. For Breeze fell and Jordan got shook. Every time, every time a for Breeze falls. So my room gets smellier. You can check us out on iTunes. Just just knowledge fight over there.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Yeah. Absolutely. And that's about it. Thank you all for listening. Thanks to everyone who donates. Helps. Let's see. John Rappaport thinks that the guy from Batman got murdered.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Did you hear that earlier in the show? That's the laziest version of this bit we've ever done. Go fuck yourself, John Rappaport. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan.
Starting point is 01:48:29 I love your work. I love you.

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