Knowledge Fight - #843: August 24, 2023

Episode Date: August 28, 2023

In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex continuing to make offensive conspiracies about the Maui fires, and Dan discusses his feelings about the death of his favorite wrestler....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I Read Read No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I have great respect for knowledge. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys. Chang-E are the bad guys. I know you can fight. Dan and Jordan, knowledge. Fight. I need money.
Starting point is 00:00:36 I need money. I need money. Andy and Pamela. Andy and Pamela. Stop it. Andy and Pamela. Andy and Pamela. I need Andy. Just time to pray. Andy and Pamela. Sure of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game. And the end of the game.
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Starting point is 00:01:04 And the end of the game. at the altar of Sleen and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan. I have a quick question for you today Sure, what's your rice? I'm going to delay mine into a little bit later, but I'm curious about what you all right Well, Dan it's Tennis tennis Alcatraz. Yeah, Alcatraz US Open starts tomorrow. I'm excited You should really start doing stuff like no one has escaped Alcatraz
Starting point is 00:01:43 I think like that like there's so many you he can't do it. Here's the problem. He could show up as like the bird man He could have a bunch of different characters that were like prisoners from Alcatraz and show up to psych out his opponents No, it would be fun. The problem is he's his entire ethos. He's just Pure and utter joy at being the best at something. That right like he can't he can't be mad He's smiling and laughing all the time. It's terrible. He's great. He's the greatest. There's got to be someone who's at Alcatraz that could embody that. Yeah, oh no, there is. There's a guy named Holgeroon. Holger. Holger.
Starting point is 00:02:12 And Viking ass shit. Yeah, that's the guy. All right, that's the guy you want to do it. Send this message to Alcatraz. All right. Anyway, what's going on? What, what, what, what, open is it or something? It's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, something open. It's the last major of the, no, it's, here's what open is it or something? It's the USM. It's the something open. It's the last major of the, no, it's, here's what it is. All right, it's one more opportunity to see Alcharez
Starting point is 00:02:31 and Jocovic go at it. Sure. The Wimbledon final, five sets, one of the most electrifying matches I've ever seen. Right, Sampress vs. Agacy. Something like that. The Cincinnati open final, two weeks ago, three sets, one of the best matches I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Let me ask you a question. That's really basic. What's that? And it only is part of me not knowing anything about tennis. Sure. So the Cincinnati Open happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Does this feed into the US Open? Uh, no. So it's not like a qualifying thing? No, no, no, no. Okay. There are qualifying for it. I assume they're worth it. I know if it was like different cities have their things and then that all goes to the main. No, there's so there's three levels of ranking points. You've got an ATP 1500 and 250,
Starting point is 00:03:16 right? 250 has a you know, super low ranked outside of the top 100. 500 is a you know, has people all the way up there. Sometimes you'll even get a Rafa or a joke of it or something like that. And then a thousand is one step below a major. Okay. So the Cincinnati open was a thousand. All right. So there's a lot of quality players. All the best players. All the best players play. They win. They get that green jacket. They get a green jacket every time. There are roughly 40 green jackets given up per year. Okay. It's a lot of green It's all makes sense now kind of devalues the the jacket really yeah, so does the fact that it's green I'm excited for you. I'm I'm very happy
Starting point is 00:03:58 I'm too to get to watch some guys go It's it's a lot of fun some grunting. Yeah, there is so much people watching the line and arguing about it. Yeah, yeah, I'm looking for it. So hope is the hope is for me. TFO. TFO is the American grew up, you know, immigrant story. His dad was a janitor at a place, you know, grows up, hit and stuff. Now he's one of the top 10, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:26 Nice. Yeah, yeah. So he's in the mix. He's in the conversation. Totally in the conversation. But realistically, everybody is like, we're just going to see Alcoraz and Joe Covitch in the end. See, now here's the, here's the other thing that's great about this, is that it's the US open, so you don't have to stay up all kinds of nonsense hours to watch it.
Starting point is 00:04:41 You know, it's fun about that? Yeah. Not true. Usually goes to one. That's not as bad as some of those other ones. It's not as bad as having to wake up at four for the French Open. Yeah. That's nice. That's a challenge. Yeah, that one's rough.
Starting point is 00:04:54 They just had today, as we're recording this, they just had all in the AEW pay-per-view. Oh, sure. It was taking place in London. Uh-huh. And, you know, some of those London fans are always mad that, uh, you know, pay per views are on US time. Sure. This is a payback. This is a, yeah, well, I mean, the payback pay per view, except it was at noon. It started at noon today. So like, it wasn't like, it wasn't tough for anyone to stay up here. But, um, uh, yeah, in reverse, it's tough for
Starting point is 00:05:22 them. Yeah. Cause they end up having to stay up all night to watch WrestleMania and shit. Yeah, that's the problem with being ahead in time is that in order to truly screw over the US fans, you have to start at like eight, which is like, you're still, you're the ones in trouble because I'm just gonna wake up later. Jokes on you, London. Exactly. Exactly. You got to go back in time in order to screw over the people ahead of you.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah. Yeah. So we have an episode to go over today, Jordan. We're gonna be talking about August 24th, 2023. Okay. That was Thursday. All right. That was the day after the Trump Tucker interview. Right. And I was kind of thinking that we were gonna check in and get some Trump Tucker interview stuff. But all Alex does is brag about how many views it got. And then he plays a little clip of it. There's really not much analysis. And the entire third and fourth hour
Starting point is 00:06:12 are made up of him playing his interview that he did with Andrew Tate. So... Okay, so are you telling me that even in the Trumposphere, right, nobody paid attention to the Republican debate and nobody really paid that much attention to the Trump Tucker interview other than to be like,
Starting point is 00:06:31 see, look at how great it is. I understand there was a fellow named Doug at the Republican debate. I truly believe the only people that paid any attention to that at all were the people forced to cover it. Yeah, yeah. And a couple of people who have been texting me about the Vakes teeth. Buh.
Starting point is 00:06:52 So, yeah, there's not a whole lot to go over on this episode, but there is some stuff in it. It is pretty stupid and awful. But we'll get down to business on that, but before we do, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new ones. Oh, that's a great idea and I have some new sound effects They will not be permanent ones. They are just for today And for what will end up being my bright spot. Okay, okay, so first don to grand parish. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk On to Grand Parish, thank you so much! You are now a policy-wank. We're here. Next!
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Starting point is 00:08:26 Nothing quite like, nothing quite like a good Crosis. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Yep. We got a tech grader in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much to Harry Quitletting, guys named Cardiniferous Plant Species as Kirk-Ack. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:08:40 You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy-wank. I was the color red. No! From the black and white. A lot of leftists like Sean Penn and others are calling for nuclear war like it's funny. People buy and sell fear. They worship war.
Starting point is 00:08:55 They crave war. And I'm not afraid of their wars. I created war. And I think it's time for the masses to wake up. Wake up. Wake up! I just think it's some of the masses to wake up wake up wake up. I just think it's some of the best coffee you're gonna find anywhere. It's wake up America, Patriot blend.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I want about you man, that's what I want to know. Aren't you tired of feeling unwanted? Aren't you tired of feeling like a napcast to be acceptable? What then today is your day. Because today is the day to break why I decided he was going to change everything. I don't like to hype things but people are designed to hype you do as you're told so says
Starting point is 00:09:38 the man you see what they want you to see and you feel whatever it is they want you to feel but I am different When you see a blank canvas I see a beautiful painting and when you hear silence I hearphony. I have a thousand faces and a million names. Sedusa, accuser, destroyer. With my free will, I can dial to the Satan channel in two seconds. I can go into that bathroom in there and look right into my eyes for about two seconds and decide to let something else jump right into my eyes for about two seconds and decide to let something else jump right into me into the driver's seat and that's something
Starting point is 00:10:28 could absolutely tear people's arms out of their sockets. But the eyes of a fool are blinded by pride and now the devil is knocking on your door. Knock. Knock. Knock. He just wants you to come home. Just let him in. Let him in. Let me in. Let's go to break.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Cause you may not need a break, but I gotta go pee pee But if you need me I ain't hard to find all you gotta do is go look up in the sky and follow But buzzers. Thank you Harry You know how tech to crack So yeah, the theme of these these other clips are Bray Wyatt clips for those folks who may not know wrestling much or maybe only know it from our rambling about it. This week, Bray Wyatt passed away. My favorite wrestler died at 36. Just absolutely tragic. Mm-hmm. I, you know, it's really tough to deal with celebrity deaths, because I don't know these
Starting point is 00:11:52 people. True. I don't know any of these people. And when a celebrity dies, people talk about, you know, like, I met this person at X, Y, or Z, thing. Sure, sure, sure. You energizing of public figures is tough, but this hits hard for me.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah. I loved Bre Wyatt, the character. I thought there was an artistry to it that was so far beyond other things that I see in pro wrestling. Now granted, this isn't to knock other types of pro wrestling. Sure. Is there something that's very different? There's an immersiveness to it. There's a mythology.
Starting point is 00:12:30 There's this guy who is creating a world that is supposed to live within this other world. It's nonsensical on some levels. But he had such an amazing gift to be able to draw you into it with this speaking, the skill of just weaving a tapestry of words that make it feel like it's not silly somehow. Yeah. And you know, I think that I was pretty harsh and pretty, you know, I was very notoriously worried about Uncle Howdy. You were concerned. The most recent incarnation of what Bray Wyatt was doing the last time he came back from sort of a repackaging of the the gimmick Because I thought like well, this is worrisome. There's another silly mask Involved and I don't quite know what the point is and then it turned into that glow in the dark mask match That was very weird. I was very concerned But I was willing to see how he played out and that's the kind of faith that I had in this person, this artist, this craft.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And I feel like I felt so comfortable in that worry because I had a sense and a feeling that is obviously now shown to be wrong that for the rest of my life, essentially, I would see other things he created. You know, maybe this Uncle Howdy thing, maybe this is a zero. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Maybe this doesn't work out, but the next thing he tries, I'm sure there will be something to it, or there will at least be like, I see what is trying to be done here. Sure. But meh. And now that is not the case.
Starting point is 00:14:25 That is something that we'll never have again. We'll never have the next thing. You know, you had the, the, the Hillbilly cult leader guy, Bray Wyatt character, the eater of worlds. And you had the fiend and the Firefly Funhouse. And then, you know, you had this, this feeling that that'll be there.
Starting point is 00:14:42 The next thing will be there. And I'll see if I love that too. Sure, sure. And then there shall be no more Uncle's Howdy. Wow. And then there would be the comeback of one of the characters that he had left behind. You know, that's also part of the thing.
Starting point is 00:14:57 There would have been a career. That's, you know, he established himself as having a career that was going to be there that he fought for and earned, you know? Yeah, and I don't know it's it's hard. It's brutal. I never got to see him live I never went to WWE event that he was at and I Don't know something that that moved me a little bit was thinking about like and this sounds so it was thinking about like, and this sounds so torquy or whatever, but like, I never got to be one of the fireflies.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Like whenever he came out to the ring, he would be carrying a lantern. Sure. Which is our, it's our Twitter, we're here. In sweet thing. Yeah, that blowing out the lantern is the menacing thing that he would do. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And everyone would put up their cell phone lights in the darkness and they were the fireflies. Right. And I I always thought like eventually I'll be able to take part in this fun pageantry. And now I never I never will get to do that. These these opportunities lost. And it you know makes it does make you think of like, well, time not promised. I know a lot of people die. Sure. And I know this isn't an almost so, almost everybody dies. Yeah. But in the realm of creators that you like and artists and stuff, it is,
Starting point is 00:16:17 it is time is not promised. Like you think Aerosmith is going on a farewell tour. Oh my God. You two bads have told me about this. Oh my god. YouTube ads have told me about this And you know, it's like you think about it and you're like well, yeah, I should probably see them before it's never an option again Sure with with this you know with someone like Bray, you know, I had that thought of eventually I'll be able to see this and you never think of farewell tour was that glow in the dark of match No, you know know you don't
Starting point is 00:16:45 now i have a million thoughts and a million things i want to say about uh... like what it is about him and and and and it probably doesn't serve our interests here as a podcast to to spend that time delving into what made that character so interesting the the the populism of uh... his hillbilly cult leader character the the dynamic of him being a showman as a human being a wrestler that's a showman yeah and then his character of being the cult leader is a showman itself yes the other characters within
Starting point is 00:17:19 chair within the wrestling landscape they aren't necessarily shaman or show women. No, you got to. They're wrestlers or they're fighters. He is a, he's someone who's selling something. It is, it is a well constructed character whenever you think, okay, Bray Wyatt the character when he's not on screen is like, is calmer and is willing, is ready to talk to his body. He's like, okay, this is our plan. This is how we're going to do that. Instead of, Bray Wyatt, the human being taking off the mask, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And then actually the ability to like
Starting point is 00:17:55 go from like a giggle to like terrifying, like people can't do that. It's tough to do. You can't just just what a loss to wrestling. And you know, he the Wyatt family was his group and initially it was him Eric Rowan and Luke Harper. And Luke Harper passed away tragically like a couple years ago, also quite young. And so, you know, you just think about, you know, they're all friends and they're all close. It's particularly someone like Eric Rowan and, you know, all their families, you know, just the brutal it must be for them. Anyway, I had a bummer of a weekend. Yeah, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And this isn't even talking about Terry Funk passed away too. Oh, that's true. The hardcore legend, Terry Funk. Yeah. Terry Funk passed away too. Oh, that's true. The hardcore legend, Terry Funk. But then again, he was like, you know, he was really old and did a career for decades of him bleeding all over the place. It's kind of expect that more. It's tragic and all, but it's not quite the same.
Starting point is 00:18:57 No, for him, dying was an achievement. Like that was, yeah, yeah, he did it. He lived an entire life in almost defiance of all possible realities. Yeah. So I spent a lot of time over the weekend going back, watching a bunch of stuff and, you know, reliving and enjoying. And all of it was quite enjoyable, but not like it didn't get me. But then on Smackdown on Friday night, they did mostly a tribute to Bray and Terry Funk. And there's this wrestler, LA Knight. He's
Starting point is 00:19:35 the guy who did the glow in the dark match, the last match. And he came out and did a promo basically against the Miz, like getting in, like, you know, building to a match with the Miz, but was able to eulogize and give respect to Bray while not breaking character and staying within the world. And it was really sweet. And then he ended the promo saying Miz, as a wise man once told me, the next time you see me run and did like a bray thing. And that's like, that kinda got me.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I was getting, I teared up a little bit. And, anyway, enough of this. This isn't a wrestling podcast. But I made those sound effects. Yeah, so it's worth it. It's all worth it in the end. Anyway, Jordan, we have an episode. If you talk about August 24th, sure. And unexpectedly, most of this episode is diving deeper into conspiracies about the Maui fire.
Starting point is 00:20:38 That is unexpected. Yeah. And so here is where Alex starts things off and his conspiracy for the day and AP is reporting what we broke last week and the witnesses have confirmed and that's really our top story The feds under their directives for the local police the county and state police, the county, and state barricaded the people of Lhina in to die. They actually associated press headlines. They knew they was in the fire, they followed orders, and they murdered them. So here's the headline that Alex is talking about from the Associated Press. Quote, in deadly Maui fires, many had no warning and no way out, those who dodged a barricade survived. From a very broad reading of just the headline, Alex's storyline seems like it might hold some water, but in cases
Starting point is 00:21:30 like this, it's usually good to actually read the article. Also, it doesn't hold water that like they murdered people. Yeah, that doesn't. That part's not even in that part still a little bit much. Yeah. But in terms of like, if you're just like, if you just take the headline and you ascribe reality to it, then it's like, oh, only the people who dodged barricades survive. Everyone else is dead. Yeah, you know, whatever. Sure. There are questions that still linger about how public alert systems were and were not
Starting point is 00:21:56 used effectively to warn people to flee, but this is the aspect of the headline that Alex is talking about, this barricade thing. So I'm going to leave all the other stuff aside for the moment. If you read the article, it's very clear that the barricades are that are mentioned have to do with police setting up blocking off streets where the fire is blocking the road, right? Or a street where there are crews actively working on down power line. Yeah, the blockade was for the fire. Yes. Yes. And some of it was so people couldn't drive to where the fire was. Right. Right. Right. Because the fire was there. That is where the fire is. So it's also letting people know, do you not go there? Less escaping
Starting point is 00:22:34 the fire. Less blocking people from escaping the fire. Right. And more blocking them from going to the right. You don't want to go into the fire. Yes. Now, at the same time, I do think that from the Associated Press and from other things that you read, there are definite concerns about how prepared people were and how prepared the government and the county were to deal with, like, further in and out roads. Yeah, yeah, and stuff like that. The entire situation is an utter tragedy, and there are sincere questions to ask about the civil response to the fire. Was it possible to give residents a greater warning? Very sincere question. Could the Coast Guard have been alerted earlier to facilitate
Starting point is 00:23:15 evacuations by boat? Could a detour escape plan through dirt roads have been planned way in advance in anticipation of this possibility? Should the power company have turned off the electricity to areas with high numbers of downed wires or wires with a high potential for being downed, all of these things are questions that should be asked. So something can be learned from this tragedy to help save lives in the future. What Alex is doing is disgraceful, ghoulish shit meant only to profit off the suffering in death and Maui. Fuck him and his entire trauma profiteering economy.
Starting point is 00:23:45 This isn't a real concern that he has. He's just making shit up in order to create a sensational interesting story for his audience to enjoy. Yeah, it feels like now, you know, everything is now, it feels like everything is now orchestrated around distracting us from the fact that nothing really works that well anymore. Like everything is just fucking a little bit shit, our infrastructure is shit, airlines are shit, like everybody's electrical grid is shit. And that's because we've allowed the wrong people to run roughshod over us for 40 years. So all of this is distracting from them. A lot of stuff regarding infrastructure and whatever you has not been invested in appropriately
Starting point is 00:24:32 to maintain it. People who are tasked with that with the public trust a lot of times have not done a good job with that or invested poorly. And yeah, it's not stolen shit. What? It bonuses and shit. But these are problems that can be solved. These are human problems. Exactly. That have to be solved. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And the blockaded people into murder them is not something that's actionable. It's not something that's, it's not real. It's not, there's nothing, there's nowhere to go from there to a better future. Yeah. That's intentional. Once, once you defended one electrical company that deliberately did a shit job in order to cut costs and, and all that stuff, you know, well, I mean, Alex, he isn't fully understand how Erkott works. That's what, that's what I'm saying, but whenever that shit broke apart and he's like, oh, it's because of a Aaron solar, but you know that kind of the feds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's your defend one of those? Fuck you now you're defending multiple, which is like I will I would rather
Starting point is 00:25:39 sacrifice a million lives at the altar of capitalism than for one fucking second deal with it. Well, it's arguable that he's defending the energy utility. Right. Companies. I'm not sure that he is. Well, I mean, practically speaking. I don't know if I'm ideologically speaking, that's what he's doing. Okay, so you're saying if you take the parts of his shit that isn't real out of the equation,
Starting point is 00:26:03 in the real world, what this serves to do is distract from the from yes. Yeah. Yeah. I could I could see that. Yeah. I could see that. He yeah. He wouldn't he wouldn't put those words to paper. No. No. No. No. I could see that. Yeah. Instead, what he'll do is accuse people of mass murder. That's that's right. I'm reading the stacks of news and I saw something that felt like deja vu from 10 days ago 11 days ago and we know the fire is happening now 16 days ago. Locals reported and I didn't just believe it to small town of Lehina so I went and checked their names who they were in the local towns and indeed well-known town
Starting point is 00:26:45 fixtures the equivalent of La Chara from Mayberry saying they would not let them in women and children get out and they blockaded the roads the open safe highway hundreds of yards away. We played multiple interviews. We had reporters on the ground that confirmed it, but it was still just the eyewitnesses. The associated press has confirmed in their words that under state and federal erections of the outlaw hana town and sheriff's department that's now involved in a massive cover-up barricaded the two road exits and would not let people leave
Starting point is 00:27:33 as they watched the buildings and their cars burn in front of them so the guy that's like uh... and e griffith uh... in mayberry is a guy named Fish, who's been interviewed by a YouTube channel called Maui Real Estate. And I just, I just, I don't know. I watched a little bit of it and I didn't find it more persuasive than the hundred other things I used as sources of information. I just want something to be very clear with what Alex just said. Okay. Alex just said that these people are on one side of the barricade watching their homes and cars burn.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Right? Okay. And they are keeping them from running across the barricade. Right? So essentially what Alex just said is that these barricades are keeping these people from running into their burning homes and cars. Um, no, no. He's saying it's their homes are burning and also their cars are burning and the barricades are stopping them from running away from their burning cars. So they're trapped in their burning cars.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah, like on there's a street, I believe it's Front Street, that is pretty close to the water, that was where a lot of people got caught in a traffic jam. Okay. And that had access to like the one road that leads to a highway. Sure. And that's where a barricade was
Starting point is 00:29:01 because the fire was there. Right. And there were down lines. Right. And so people were stuck on front street in terms of where their cars were. Right. And so Alex is pretending that they were being kept there. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And that is not so much the case. They're being put into a place where there's not fire. And this is what I'm trying to make But then fire does come there sure, but the idea is that people are helping them go from places where fire is to places Where not fire is that is the ideal yes, yeah, and unfortunately that is not achieved right gotcha Okay, and that is where the tragedy a lot of the tragedy comes in, and where a lot of Alex's ability to play games with this information.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Right. Right, right, right. And I mean, it's just, again, it's trying much profiteering. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Disgusting. So part of the issue that comes into play here is that some of the roads were closed,
Starting point is 00:30:00 but those roads were impassable. Roads being closed isn't proof of like a grand conspiracy to trap people in a fire here. And that's what Alex is doing. It's what he's saying. And I understand that free speech is important, it should be protected, but at a certain point, it's also important to recognize what Alex is doing. He's accusing people of murder. This is slander against the public employees in Maui, and it's not just harmless shit talk.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Like I have no idea what the best course of action is to hold someone responsible for stuff like this, but just ignoring it and saying, it's his opinion is something I'm done with. And done with accepting that as a way we can operate. Yeah. He's straight up accusing people of crimes. We have... He's inciting.
Starting point is 00:30:40 We've argued this conversation for a long, long time. Yeah, and we have gone from one place to another that shows self-evidently We are default living in the wrong answer to this question. I think so and so we need to change that answer Whether we like it or not whether you think it's right or not. It needs to be done Yeah, but once you figure out the right answer that's when they change the questions or not, it needs to be done. Yeah, but once you figure out the right answer, that's when they change the questions. Ah, press and piece, Roddy Piper. Ah, 66 times seven. So, um, Alex says just make up details in order for this narrative to fly.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Sure. In deadly knowing fires, many had no warning and no way out those who dodge the barricades survive. That's not an info wars headline, though I was ahead line a week ago, we put out just like that that identical basically Then they had left the site say how dare Jones claim they attacked me all over the national it is all of our newspapers all over YouTube Jones is insane saying the police block the people in And now the associated Associated Press is a tail report.
Starting point is 00:31:50 The government admits they've eradicated the men and did let them drive down the clean, open road to the highway. 200 yards away. You see here the essential lie Alex needs to tell for this story to work, which is that the roads were clear. If he were to accept that there were down trees and live electric wires and fire in the roads and they were impassable his entire charade falls apart instantly. The very AP article that Alex's citing says, quote,
Starting point is 00:32:15 the utility Hawaiian electric says more than 30 power poles are down in West Maui including along the Hano Ape Iel-I-I-Lani highway and the south end of Lahaina. The fire department closed the Lahaina bypass road because of the fire. The closures block the only route out of Lahaina to the south. The conspiracy that Alex is selling the audience only works if there isn't a reason for the roads to have been closed. And because that piece is so critical, like that piece, Alex lies to make that piece exist within this puzzle. If Alex wants to talk about failed emergency response or poor preparedness,
Starting point is 00:32:57 he could make some very valid criticisms against the dreaded government, but that isn't profitable for him. His audience isn't entertained by suggestions for improving policy. They want ridiculous horror stories that play to their worldview. They want to race his drunken or regale them with tales that make them feel like they're living in a movie because that's a lot more fun. To preserve that fun, they are perfectly fine accepting the lies Alex needs to tell to enable these conspiracies to fly. It's just bullshit. Yeah. Bullshit. Yeah, I mean, it's fucking... It is part of the fundamental reason
Starting point is 00:33:30 that it drives people insane. It's just like, if you've ever had to try and build a thing with all the regulations in Chicago, you know, you've got people, the inspector after inspector being like, this is two inches difference, you know, and you're like, this is bullshit, you tiki-tac assholes, and then you look at the way we regulate our fucking electrical grid. And you're like, really? This is how we're gonna do things. I get it. I get why everybody's furious. Sure. You know? Yeah, and especially when, um, I would assume,
Starting point is 00:34:02 I don't know, because the like review and investigation hasn't been fully completed, but I would assume, I don't know, because the review and investigation hasn't been fully completed, but I would assume there are some if he decisions that are made, you know, and maybe some if he decisions led to death. And that is emotionally palpable. So you take that frustration and that you're describing, then you add the emotional impact of death and tragedy to it. And that's grist for Alex's mill as it were, you know? Yeah, I mean, it's just so mind-boggling how obvious it is, you know, in retrospect, it just be like,
Starting point is 00:34:42 no, this can't happen anymore. So now we change it, you know, in retrospect it just be like, no, this can't happen anymore. So now we change it, you know? The idea of doing nothing about it is so bonkers. Well, I think things will be done. I hope so. I know. But you look at Texas' grid, you know, you look at Irkott and you're like, oh, okay, I didn't do shit.
Starting point is 00:34:59 But you understand why that's the case. Exactly, no, I know, I understand why, but it's too obvious. Exactly. No, I know. I understand why, but there is too obvious. There is philosophical unwillingness to do the things that should be done in that situation, whereas I think that in the case of Hawaii, there may be more willingness to engage with like, all right, post-mortem of the,
Starting point is 00:35:20 make not of people, but of the event, excuse me. Yeah, yeah. What do we learn from this? What steps can be put into place? And you know, I I agree with you that is frustrating in the case of Texas. But you know, yeah, what are you going to do? There's other reasons there. All there's tons of reasons. So Alex gets into the AP article and man, it's a little suspicious, little sus. and man, it's a little suspicious, little sus. As flames tore through a West Mountain neighborhood,
Starting point is 00:35:47 car after car fleeing residents headed for the one paved road out of town and a desperate race for safety. And car after car was turned back towards the rapidly spreading fires by a barricade blocking access to highway 30 with the police enforcing him. So how accurate do you think that was to the article?
Starting point is 00:36:11 I would say that I'm going to go with 25%. Actually you're low, it's mostly accurate. The words quote with police enforcing it though don't appear in the AP article. Alex is adding those words because he wants to heighten the drama of the story that he's telling to the audience. The impression they're supposed to have is of jack booted police holding the line and not letting anyone escape the fire, so you have to understand that he's going to make this article say that, whether it actually does or not.
Starting point is 00:36:40 The headline works for Alex's propaganda purposes, but he hasn't actually read the article itself, and as he cold reads it on air, you can get the sense that it's not really fitting the narrative well enough, so he dresses it up with his own editorializing meant to appear as if it's from the article. Yeah. This is him defrauding the audience, because he doesn't give a shit about the reality of the things he covers. You notice, though, how much he needs the audience to think that the AP agrees with him because on some subconscious or conscious level, he knows the audience understands that the AP is depicting reality far more accurately than Alex himself.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Alex knows that for his narrative to match up with AP reporting, that sends the message that his narrative matches up with actual reality. If what Alex said was true and the mainstream media just lies and who cares about them, then he wouldn't need to try to troche and horse his own words into an AP article to make it sound more like him. The charade would be unnecessary, but the charade is necessary. Fundamentally, Alex knows he's a liar, and on some level, his listeners know that they're trying to convince themselves that the fiction they believe is actually truth. Yeah. That's why Alex always says things are in the mainstream news and why he constantly lies about headlines from mainstream outlets.
Starting point is 00:37:51 The obviously higher credibility of those outlets, even among the people who swear to hate them, is important to hijack. Yeah. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Everybody knows, you know, it does, it does feel like, hey, yeah, no everybody everybody knows you know It does it does feel like hey listen, okay We I'll share you this article because it makes me feel good. I'll share you this article because I think it's actually true Mm-hmm, you know like those are the two very clear differences in that right wing atmosphere kind of thing Yeah, yeah, like this wouldn't fly if it was a dumb shit blog post. No, he wouldn't be trying to desperately cling on to the credibility of it. And you see that whenever he's trying to co-opt credible outlets.
Starting point is 00:38:35 And you'd know it was a dumb shit blog post because it'd say something like, oh, it's like the scene in Cloverfield when they're trying to escape Manhattan and there's a police barricades, you know, it's like that, that's what they're trying to evoke. And you would know is some dumb shit blog because Alex wouldn't specify anything. Yeah, I would have to dig to try and figure out like, oh, this is from 9-11 blogger. I googled the sentence word for word. Yeah, sometimes that's the only way.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Sometimes it is. So Alex continues on with this article. Okay. He later picked his way through the flames, smoke, and rubble to pull survivors to safety. But his dozen saved themselves, thousands died, including children. They go under and admit the power lines were knocked down. The power was left on. Water was denied. They were murdered.
Starting point is 00:39:23 The words, quote, but as dozens saved themselves, thousands died, including children are not in this article. What happened is that Alex started reading the next paragraph and realized that it didn't work for him. The actual next line is quote, but dozens found themselves caught in a hellscape. Their cars jammed together on a narrow road surrounded by flames on three sides and the rocky ocean waves on the
Starting point is 00:39:44 fourth. Some died in their cars while others tried to run for safety. Alex skimmed that as he was reading aloud and realized that this doesn't work for his narrative man. Dozens of people being trapped doesn't match the level of atrocity he's trying to portray, which is why he completely changed the sentence, while pretending it was still from the article. Instead of dozens being trapped, now pretending it was still from the article. Instead of dozens being trapped, now it's dozens escaping and thousands dying. For you or me, dozens of deaths, that's horrifying and it's a tragedy, but that number
Starting point is 00:40:14 is disappointing for Alex, and I suspect he thinks it won't get the audience excited so he just makes up thousands of fatalities. As of the most recent update from the Maui government, there have been 115 confirmed fatalities with 99% of the area searched. There are 388 people who have been reported unaccounted for and the hunt is on for those people, many of whom may well be alive, and somewhere they haven't been found. Even assuming the absolute worst that all of these people who are unaccounted for are dead, that's 503 people. Alex said thousands, which means at least 2000, so he's arbitrarily multiplying the death toll
Starting point is 00:40:50 by four times of the current worst-case scenario. Yeah. Why would he do that? It seems weird, right? Well, unless you're trying to, oh, I don't know, exaggerate your own importance and so forth. And sensationalize shit, because you're a lying asshole. Yeah. Further, the article doesn't say anything about water being denied, your own importance and so forth. And sensationalize shit because you're a lying asshole.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Further, the article doesn't say anything about water being denied. But if you read other coverage of the fires, you would understand the issue here. The issue is one of water rights. And how do we say hot topic in Hawaii? A developer wanted to divert streams to fight the fires, but native Hawaiians are very opposed to water diversion schemes going all the way back to like the times of plantations coming in and essentially stealing a precious natural resource. Yeah, the expense of the people who live there. For very obvious reasons don't fuck with our water. Are you lying pieces of shit? Yeah, this is a tense issue, but at
Starting point is 00:41:35 the same time by 6 p.m. on the day of the fire outbreak permission was given to divert streams to fight the fire. Sure. Alex is just repeating some dumb conspiracy talking point you saw in a meme and not understanding the reality behind this nor the cultural issues that are at play with the decision in the greater conversation. Also the article in No Way implies or reports that people were murdered. This is a criminal misuse of the source and it's being done for Alex's sensationalist purposes to drive attention to himself and profit his own enterprises. It's just a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:42:05 There's no way around it. It's just a big old piece of shit. Yeah, sucks. Yeah, you know, this is one of those things that I really do feel like we could nail down. You know, like, if you get like fucking 10 points total, you know, like, you got, you have 10 to merits before you lose your license to broadcast.
Starting point is 00:42:24 If you like read a sentence And then you decide that the next sentence of the paragraph doesn't work for you and you just change it completely and when it's so Trans- when it's so transparent. Yeah, and that's that's catchable, you know, well I mean this one especially is so fucking obvious when he says that doesn't save themselves Thousands died and then the next art line in the actual article is dozens found themselves caught in a hellscape. Totally. It's the word that he used to jump off into his own story.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Totally. And it's the opposite of what the article says. Totally. Yeah, I mean, when you do things like that, it does reveal in time. Yeah, but I mean, that's this is the type of thing where it's like, hey, fuck off with this. Oh, I don't know if this is free speech or not free speech. This is just like a granular specific thing.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And you lose your license or some shit. You're off the air after 10. I mean, you know, it's a reasonable thing that I think we can all just be like, hey, you're a liar. And we don't want you on the air. I support the idea of it, but I think implementation would be hard.
Starting point is 00:43:29 It'd be really tough. You'd have to have basically a set of us dedicated to literally every show. Ah, that's not gonna happen. That's probably not gonna happen. Nope, not enough crazy competencies. That really isn't. So let's take a break.
Starting point is 00:43:42 A little breaky. From this, and here Alex Ramble over that song from Tron Look out for the end of this clip where Alex just gets lost wait deaf punk or it's that one the grid That one. I don't know who did it. Maybe deaf punk. Anyway, he gets lost in random quotes at the end of it. It's kind of fun. Okay We are the resistance We are the resistance. We are not lying now. We are taking action against the enemy.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I'm becoming stronger every day here. The globalists celebrate their evil. I'm trying to control them. As their parties, we're out here in the chunk of fighting. It's working. loving, getting stronger. More they persecutors. Again, imagine this with no music. Yeah, I was gonna say this is like matrix reloaded levels.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah. More the people know we're on their side. The strong will again. I can see them in the inner city of humanity rising. I can see it. It is our destiny. Change your destiny in your dreams. Stop bowing to the new world order.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Study history. There are times when evil takes over and destroys everything. Until you let them realize this. There's only one way to go. And that is total resistance. What is that? Total resistance. And never forget Resistance is victory Telling the truth, that's that's true
Starting point is 00:45:32 The world of universal deceit is a revolutionary act In the beginning a patriot is a scarce man Hated, feared and scorned But in time when his cause succeeds The Jimmy join him Because then it costs nothing feared and scored but in time when he's caused succeeds But Jim had joined him Because then it costs nothing to be a patriot Man in the arena Yeah, I was gonna say let's just jump more quotes in there right. Yep. How'd you like that? It was fun
Starting point is 00:45:59 I mean that wasn't that good. That was pretty fun. It leaves something to be desired as a little too long Wasn't that good that was pretty fun. He leaves something to be desired is a little too long music too loud Yeah, it's not boppy enough and not esoteric enough. Yeah, that's true. There needs to be a there needs to be like a Dimension will not hold us right something like we belong in the stars Yeah, totally you need to belong in the stars. We must conquer Saturn Especially if you got that kind of base behind you you go to the stars Yeah, that was more just like a motivational speech We must conquer Saturn. Especially if you got that kind of base behind you, you go to the stars. Yeah. That was more just like a motivational speech almost.
Starting point is 00:46:28 It was, it was a little bit like resistance. It resistance isn't victory. Usually you lose. You know, I disagree with you in the sense that how I hear that is what matters is you try. You know, resistance is victory in as much as you have got yourself to a place where you are resisting something that is wrong. Right. And that in and of itself is a moral victory.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Sure. It's not victory in the sense that you're going to win. I mean, yeah, I feel like all what though it really is, it's just like moving the bar. Well, you know, it's, you know, I've been watching a bit of the challenge, you know, we've talked about this. And I think that TJ Levin would say, trying is victory. Right. You know, he's mad at people who quit. And you know, you get punished for quitting. And I think that trying is a victory. Sure. I see that.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I agree. You didn't give up. I agree, but at the Olympics, they don't judge on a curve, you know? Like, there's not like, oh, well, this person tried harder. So they're they're high jump of 15. You're looking at this from such a winning and the losing kind of standpoint. I pity you. I accept that pity. I also would have been trying to figure out on the challenge real quick, slight diversion. No. Um, people lose the eliminations and then they have to go home. True.
Starting point is 00:47:47 And TJ Levin will generally say, like, you gave it, you're all, I'm, like, a, a, a, but this ends your time here. We'll see you next year. No. No, that's what I'm getting to. Oh, okay. Because sometimes you'll say, like, this ends your time here on the challenge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And then they go. Yeah. And sometimes he says, I'm sure we'll see you in the future. I'm sure we'll see you in the future. I'm sure we'll see you in the future. Why does he say that to some people and not others? Because I think he has a say in whether or not you're coming back or not. But sometimes he says that to people who are obviously coming back. I sometimes eat, well, I mean, you don't need to say things.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Sometimes he says that to people who you're never going to see back. I've never heard him say to anybody that we've never seen back. I can't remember who, but you said it to someone, I'm like, I'm going to see that person. I've never heard him say to anybody that we've never seen back. I can't remember who, but he said it to someone, I'm like, I'm gonna see that person. I haven't seen him. I mean, that's, that's, that's. I feel like he was being polite in that instance. That evidence is spotty.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Also, I went back and I started a season of little ways back. Sure. In the past. Oh man, it was offensive. Yeah. Yeah, yeah the past. Yeah. Oh, man, it was offensive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is tough to go back before season 30. Yeah. Yeah. Because before that, it's, it is, um, it's violent to, to, like,
Starting point is 00:48:58 interpersonally violent. It's violent towards women. Yeah. It sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really, really hard to watch. It is something that I really think we're all really trying to avoid reconciling. It's just like how much everybody goes, you know, 10 years ago it wasn't like this, you know, and how much people don't want to be like 10 years ago it was like this. Yes. So let's deal with that and not deal with how it doesn't feel like it was better now yeah so we are back to Hawaiian issues and this is not good we need the people that did this to be arrested but don't
Starting point is 00:49:40 have the justice department to do it they're too busy persecuting our great president and it's not their job just know that these individuals are But don't look for the Justice Department to do it. They're too busy persecuting our great president. And it's not their job. I just know that these individuals are ladies and gentlemen who are these so-shit-abrests, in deadly mally fires. Many had no warning in no way how those who dogs that barricade survived that were put up as the fire arrived, the water denied, the power left on, arrive, the water denied, the power left on, the sirens never turned on, and it's not like it's some desert property nobody wants, it's the most expensive square inch property on earth that a bunch of poor people refuse to sell because it's their culture and that's the globalist in me. Somebody they can't buy like me or you.
Starting point is 00:50:28 You can't buy all of them. You are so easy to buy. You couldn't put a gun in there. You're so easy to buy. You can't buy all of them. Most of the families are dead. Up at what? Some of their families spend their hundreds of years and out thousands of their locals,
Starting point is 00:50:44 indigenous. What? Some of their families spend their hundreds of years and out thousands of their locals, Indigenous. And now the state can come in because there's nobody there to stand up for them and take it. Well, this is it. The state's literally standing up. I'm going to Maui. I'm not going to stay in but soon. And we're going to expose this. So you might notice that Alex doesn't say who should be arrested, just a vague, nebulous they that the audience can take to mean whoever they want. Yeah. Alex should have learned his lesson about insisting on going places to uncover non-existent cover-ups back with Sandy Hook.
Starting point is 00:51:17 But I guess he's gonna try to encourage some more harassment of public officials and locals. Hope he doesn't end up causing more terror to people's lie. Oh, he definitely will. Yeah. That being said, the least surprising news in the world is that Alex is gonna take another vacation to Hawaii and pretend it's for work purposes. Yeah, I mean, it is one of the most disgusting things
Starting point is 00:51:37 I can think of because I guarantee Alex looks at this go and like, ooh, another workcation. Yep. Yep. Guarantee it. I just, it's so fucking pure and clear in my mind that that is true. Yeah. I think the alternative is that he's thinking, man, I'm gonna go cause some trouble.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I'm gonna go stir some stuff up. I'm gonna be in the headlines just like when I was a seatbelt snitch down at the border pretending I was saving traffic children. Yep. And that to me, like, if you're clear about that's what you're doing. It's another level of like, grotesque. I hope you just think he's going on a vacation. Because that at least is just like,
Starting point is 00:52:14 well, you're a shithead nihilist, you're checked out. Yeah. Yeah, definitely that is the ultimate thing is, don't go. Just don't go. No one wants to there. Everyone alone. Yeah. Dome. Truman show. Let's get this done. Get this guy in the dome. Come on. So how it gets back to the AP article here. And
Starting point is 00:52:32 what do you know? He lies more. Yeah. And you got to read the AP article. It's one. Do you got to read it? Three, four, five, six pages long. It's a long article for AP, but short and easy read. You read this. It sounds like it's a transcript of my show last week. They didn't trim the trees. They let the power on the power lines. They refused in the water. They didn't turn on the sirens.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Then, quote, to protect them from fire when any police could look and see the roads were open to the highway. And there weren't fires there. The fires were in the town, so they blocked them in, so they couldn't get away from the fire. Whoever gave the police that order is who we need in a jail cell right now. This article may be that long if you print it out with large font like Alex does, but it's not very long and Alex didn't
Starting point is 00:53:25 read it. This is a complete misrepresentation of what's in that article because again, he wants to attach the credibility of the associated press to the sensationalized and made up things he's telling his audience. It is true that the sirens weren't used and that is mentioned in the article. This is probably part of why on the 17th, Herman and Daya, the Maui emergency management agency administrator, submitted his resignation. Why is Attorney General is still conducting a review of the decisions made during the emergency? So, a lot more will be known about the rationale for not activating the sirens in due time,
Starting point is 00:53:57 but for now, it's very unfair for Alex to report to his listeners that this was done in attempt to kill people. Yeah. Um, I don't know if this is the case, but I wonder if it is. I haven't seen this in any article, but this is just my thought, and maybe I'm stupid. Yeah. But I could see not sounding off the sirens,
Starting point is 00:54:16 because like there was also a hurricane going around. Sure. And I think it could have confused people, because you'd want to behave differently depending on what the emergency is Like if it's a fire you evacuate right if it's a hurricane maybe you evacuate. Yeah, or maybe like they're different behaviors I don't know that's just my thought. I don't I have no idea Yeah, another AP article about the communication problems during the fire involves input from Carl Kim the director of of the National Disaster Preparedness Training Center who said,
Starting point is 00:54:47 quote, quote, said, it's too soon to know exactly how the warning and alert system might have saved more lives in the Hina, and noted that wildfires are often more challenging to manage than volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, and even earthquakes because they are more difficult to detect and track over time. We're still in a wet cement moment for Alex with this tragedy and he's trying to make sure that his version of it sticks with the audience's mind before more information can come to light that helps people better understand the specific failings in things like preparedness that created this outcome. Improving preparedness and working together to make a better government that works for the people doesn't profit Alex, which is why that's never the conversation the conversation is always about evil people carrying out evil plans because it can't do shit about that Other than stay glued to conspiracy bullshit and support idiots like Alex who promised to keep you informed and keep you safe
Starting point is 00:55:38 Because they're the ones who are doing the battling. They're on the front lines tip of the spear blah blah blah. Yeah, all nonsense They're on the front lines tip of the spear blah blah blah blah. It's all nonsense. The actual solutions are a detriment to Alex's bottom line and profits. No, they are. His entire business model is a function of this. Like, if I impede people's ability to improve things, then I will make money in the interregnum. Yes, and if I'm... You impede people's ability to improve things
Starting point is 00:56:10 and make things work better, either there's a higher likelihood that there will be conflagrations that happen that I can blame on the evil people and then the cycle will repeat. But the implicit truth is that he is relying on others to still do the job. Right. You know, like Alex couldn't figure out how to manage emergency response to a fucking fire. I mean, not just
Starting point is 00:56:34 that, but still improve things so that like the idea is I am going to make as much money off of this fire as I possibly can, but I still want them to not make any more fires. Well, I just want to be in terms of. I mean, you know, like if Austin's on fire, you know, I would prefer it if they keep Austin from being on fire. And I rely on the people. Yeah, he doesn't want his house on fire. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Everyone else is fine. Totally. As long as there's a way to blame the global. Right. Exactly. It's trauma and tragedy profiteering and it's disgusting. Yeah. But there's other things that are disgusting, like hotel room prices. No, that's true. Meanwhile, FEMA agents booking $1,000 a night luxury resorts in Maui. I mean, failed disaster. They're winning hotel rooms at the four-season dollar road starting at a thousand dollars a night. That's outside my budget. No, it's not. Outside most viewers. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Outside of theirs. Well, they get $700 period. To the survivors of their administrative mass murder. This wasn't murder and that's definitely not outside Alex's price range given the luxury resorts we found to him staying at in his recent vacations. Yeah. Femal personnel who are responding to the disaster have to stay somewhere. And I don't know if I'm too interested in pretending that this is the kind of government expenditure that somehow passed the line. Yeah, right. This is what's known as pretend populism. Alex wants you to think that he's just like you.
Starting point is 00:58:18 He came to Ford and Iso Tellrooms and he's offended that the people in Lahaina aren't getting more from the government. But none of that's real. He's super rich, even with the bankruptcy, and owns multiple watches that cost more than most of his audience's net worth. More importantly, his political beliefs dictate that the people in Lahaina shouldn't even be getting $700 from the government. Why should they get a handout just because something bad happened to them?
Starting point is 00:58:41 Sure, they lost all their property, but shouldn't they have had that insured? Is it really the government's job to make up for their bad decisions not getting insurance? Alex's extreme conservatism doesn't believe in social assistance programs, and if folks like Ron Paul had their way, this wouldn't be something the government would do at all. This is why charities exist. If there are people who are downtrodden, voluntary giving, and support from churches. That's all they really need. It's actually oppressive for the government to give people money to bail them out of difficult times because it sends the message that you can just be irresponsible and expect everyone
Starting point is 00:59:15 else to clean up the mess when you get in trouble. This is what Alex's political policy set involves, but he and all the other fake-ass populist posturing idiots like him understand that people generally find this mentality super cold and they don't like it. That's why they put on the charade of being offended that the government didn't give people more money. They know that normal caring humans feel that way, so they're appealing to that feeling in normal humans, but you may notice that Alex isn't advocating that the government
Starting point is 00:59:43 actually give out more assistance He's just trying to exploit the fact that you care about the victims of the fire and then using that to attack his enemies He doesn't know he doesn't care at all, but he can't afford to be seen as not care totally Yeah, yeah, the appearance of his actual politics would turn off so many people with its callousness and lack of regard for decency. Yeah. And so you have to put on this act otherwise you show yourself to be a shithead. Yeah. I mean, I can't imagine being like, oh, listen, I hate the government just grabbing whatever hotel rooms are available in an emergency. I want them to scour Airbnb's. And fuck it, that might even violate the third amendment.
Starting point is 01:00:28 And you have to consider what's there. What wasn't affected by the fire. Totally. The limitations are very serious here at the moment. This is an emergency. I am not mad at people just throwing shit into an emergency. I get it mad at people just throwing shit into an emergency. You get it. Yeah, but you gotta understand. And you know who owns the four seasons? Joe Biden. Oh, you didn't know?
Starting point is 01:00:55 Say Joe Biden. Say Joe Biden. Let's have a look up. Who owns what before I stay there? That's one of the reasons I don't stay there. Any bravo will stay there about him. Couple of weeks ago he came back and I went to a rug and I went to pick him up there and I said, hey, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:10 I would put the down and he said, no. I said, Bill Gates, he does not. I said, good morning. He's my own, the Jordi owner. So Bill Gates, along with Saudi prince Al Walid bin Talal al-Saud, are the primary owners of four seasons through stock holdings. I guess if Alex wants to stay away
Starting point is 01:01:28 because of that, good for him, man. I mean, like, you know, vote with your dollars. Cool. I don't have a problem with that, necessarily. Yeah. He's a total liar about researching where he stays though. He just saw that Bill Gates thing in a meme and decided to take it on as the result of some research
Starting point is 01:01:42 he does. You can tell this because on his last vacation to Kauai, he stayed at the Royal Sanesta Hotel, which is owned by Service Properties Trust. If you look a little bit into Service Properties Trust, you'll find that the top two stockholders for them are BlackRock and the Vanguard Group, two entities who are big old villains for Alex at the moment.
Starting point is 01:02:01 In fact, he's saying that the power was left on in Maui because BlackRock owns the power utilities since they're part of this grand conspiracy. So either Alex is lying about looking into who owns a hotel he stays at because it makes him sound smarter and more principled than he is, or he actually secretly supports Blackrock in Vanguard. And Goldman Sachs too, they're also investors, heavy investors in service properties trust. Yeah. Alex is a fucking loser. Desperate to pull out this little trivia to make himself feel smarter and better than everyone around him. It's all an act. He's a total fraud.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Nonsense. And I didn't pull this clip, but there was a moment, just a tiny little moment that I found delightful, where he was like Bill Gates is making a thousand dollars a night. Oh my God. Because these FEMA people are staying at a four seasons. And to imagine, first of all, Bill Gates would have any awareness of the prices of the runes at a hotel that he has investments in. It's silly.
Starting point is 01:02:56 And to think that he'd be like a thousand dollars. Pointiculous. Zero zero zero one, relatively speaking speaking of a scent to Bill Gates right Bill Gates is looking at the no vacancy like he's looking at the list of rooms That are booked at the four seasons. You're like thank God we did this fire. I am making it handover list. Oh boy This is so stupid that is unreal. Yeah, I think it's also unreal whenever every time you start looking into who owns what? It's such a oh we live in a fucking aristocracy Yeah, it's like it's also unreal whenever every time you start looking into who owns what it's such a oh we live in a fucking aristocracy Yeah, it's like especially when you start you know going back to the you know things like Service properties trust. Yeah, you know like they have these names of these larger companies that own things
Starting point is 01:03:39 And like oh, this is a subsidiary of yep, but yeah, it's pretty depressing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is just so, it's like, oh, okay. Either one rich guy owns this or it's owned by 30 different things that eventually wind up to 10 rich guys own this. And you're like, okay, all right. And these things like, you know, the Vanguard Group. Yeah, yeah. Things that have like large amounts of investments
Starting point is 01:04:05 and things. Yeah. Kind of a bummer. Y'all gotta go. But at the same time, you know, I always try to find those little spots to give it up. And if Alex truly doesn't want to support Bill Gates by not going to the four seasons,
Starting point is 01:04:20 that's one of the healthiest things I can imagine him doing. Yes, I support that. Yeah, yeah. Like, I remember my mom, when we were younger, I can't remember what gas station it was, but there was some gas station that, like, I guess, probably one of the ones that had a spill or something. Yeah. Nope, we got to drive a little bit further to go to a different gas station.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah. Hey, inconvenience yourself a tiny bit to not spend money at the people that you disagree with. Yep. Good for you. That's the way you do it. You can't be like, oh, I'm never shopping at this place again. You got to find places and be like, this is where I'm always shopping.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Instead, Alex pretends he's on some kind of a high horse because he's giving one to you to Black Rock and Vanguard and Goldman Sachs instead of Bill Gates and Asadi Prince. You got it. Great. Oh man, the Saudis also own everything. It's the Saudis, it's sovereign wealth funds, 10 rich guys who own black rock and then one rich guy that owns everything. There's a lot of that.
Starting point is 01:05:16 That's brutal. So Alex doesn't do, you know, all of his show on this episode. And I think there's a reason and i uh... i think he is uh... not feeling well uh... we're not funded by bill gates and despite all the global attacks we're still here and this news is so big that uh... spites fact that
Starting point is 01:05:43 i got covered just this morning on a covered covered. Oh my god. It's cons of the office. It's my voice is particularly deep today because we're trying to sound like Darth Vader because every word hurts. The galaxy might have covered again. Yep. Yep. And four times. And I think that this is an opportunity to you know say, say that, you know, maybe you should take it more seriously than we have. Maybe we've been a little bit flippant on that front and some stuff. Could have some examination. Sure. On our parts. And it's certainly coming back more, I think, I think that there's, there's some reports. Well, you know, it never went away.
Starting point is 01:06:28 That's true. It came. That's a point. It went from pandemic to endemic and the problem with humans is we cannot just sustain that for this long. Yes. Without like conscious deliberate effort, it's just like eventually everything gets equalized to where it's like, oh, well, sure, COVID is still a devastating problem, but that's
Starting point is 01:06:51 normal now because it's been a devastating problem for three years, you know, and it's like, I can't live. I, it's just, yeah. And so many of the things that are the parts of it that make it a devastating problem, like lingering COVID, share on sweat, long COVID type stuff, is that's mysterious in some ways that I don't think that there's a full understanding of a lot of that. And it's very difficult to be like constantly mindful of that.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Yeah. And then secondarily, a lot of the things that would be incredibly helpful are things that half of the population has made it clear are not possible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, it's a difficult situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:36 And it is like, whenever it is this, it is impossible if you are immunocompromised not to think like, oh, well, this is a small enough group or a group that is, that is just doesn't have enough power to advocate for itself in any way or whatever. And people are just totally fine with letting us go. You know, like it's hard not to view that whenever nobody even seems to care that it's still there and it's still a serious threat. Yeah, I get it, I understand. Yeah, and it's something that, I don't know, I think we think on a little more. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:08:12 But also, you know, Bray Wyatt died as of now, the understanding is that he had some heart complications from COVID and had a heart attack. And, you know, it is, yeah, that, that it didn't go away. Obviously, it's something that we know. And yet it, it doesn't, uh, yeah, I think you put it, I think you put it well with the like, the level. It's so, yeah, it just equalize. It doesn't matter how good things are or how bad things are
Starting point is 01:08:48 Eventually it equalizes if they are that way for a long enough period of time You know, and it then it's like a And it happens to everybody. I'm not as fucked over by or I'm not as emotionally Destroyed by how fucked over I am and in the same way you're not as emotionally excited by how good things are Over time. It's just how our brains function. It sucks and I understand. I'm just sorry. Yeah. Yeah So we've went last clip here I'm in italics discussing his plans to go to Hawaii and like oh my god. That's the worst How could you do that now? He wants to relax on the beach and stuff. Oh, yeah, but he's not gonna
Starting point is 01:09:24 He's not gonna. And they just told me forget about it, move on, but we're not gonna forget about it. And I'm going there. Very soon. Very soon. I might leave today. Maybe next week we'll see, I'm gonna look into it. But mass murder where you caught him, red handed like this, demands attention. And quite frankly, it's very frustrating because, I don't know why I want to relax at the time. I'm not gonna be doing that one there.
Starting point is 01:10:04 I might have a dinner, maybe swimming the pool for an hour, but it's going to be really torturous to be around these mass murderers. Know what they did on here, such a beautiful place. It can be very paradoxical, but you can bet your bottom dollar. We're going to be able to have a cop, we're going to be able to everything. And my ties, I'm going to be sitting by the floor. I'm in an hour or maybe a little more than that, maybe. I bet.
Starting point is 01:10:29 I can't imagine thinking anything, like seeing this happen and thinking anything other than I will go to Hawaii when they say the locals say that it's okay and I will go. A little while. They say exactly, no, but that's what I'm saying. Like, this is now all on them. I have no input in any decisions until, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and my first thought, like, I don't know, I don't like to talk about,
Starting point is 01:10:58 outside of like when we do like a, you know, dream creamy summer drive for like, charities and stuff. I don't like to talk too much about charity stuff that I give to. But like the first thing I thought was, oh my God, it's so awesome that someone made a spreadsheet that vetted GoFundMe's that are of people who are there so direct aid can go to, like that's the first thing I thought
Starting point is 01:11:24 and engaged with. Not God, I'm gonna find these nebulous obscure vague unnamed mass murderers by going in. I'll have it dinner. I'll sit at the pool for a little while. Yeah. It's such shit. Just it's I don't know. I remember when Rogan was sort of teetering on the edge of being a full on shit head. Yeah. And he was talking about like if you're not on the side of helping refugees, you're not on the team.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Yeah. And that term has stuck on, stuck with me a little bit. And it's kind of behavior out of Alex. You're not on the team, man. You're not on the team. You're not on the team. This is your impulse and your instinct of what to do in the wake of a tragedy. You're not on the team, man.
Starting point is 01:12:07 It is, you're up for yourself. Yeah, it is impossible to understate, but every time he's like, it's us humanity against the evil power, it cannot be understated. Alex has actively working against team humanity on all fronts. Oh yeah. If there were aliens who were like,
Starting point is 01:12:28 how do we destroy the human race? They'd be like, first off, we're gonna hire Alex because he's clearly already on our team. Crushing it. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's just absurd. Yeah. Fuck that guy. Fuck that guy. Well, I thought, I thought that last time we talked about the wife.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I was the last time. It's gonna be real, yep. Yep. Nope, it gets worse. Yeah, it really does. So, we'll be back with another episode down the road. But until then we have a website. Indeed we do, it's notletriethy.com.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Yep, we're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter, is that an knowledge underscore fight? Yeah, we'll be back. But until then I'm Neo I'm Leo I'm DCX Clark ski D-D-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-Doop-D Yeah, woo, yeah. And now here comes the sex robot. And Ian Chan's a sure on the Earth thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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