Knowledge Fight - #848: The News Blitz

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

In this installment, Dan and Jordan catch up with some big headlines involving Infowars from the past weeks, including Owen Shroyer's legal troubles, Alex going on Russian TV, and Harrison Smith dropping the ball with an antisemitic caller.

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It's so it's very surreal to be sitting here and like still have a fair amount to do before the triller. Sure, sure. And have done a great deal already and just and to have it like creep up like it's it's I feel very weird. Yeah. What excited? No, I was I were, my wife and I

went and played tennis this morning. Great relations. I went, thank you very much. It was like a moment of, okay, this has somehow gone from something that's like, oh, this would be fun thing to do. This is a cool idea. And now it's gonna happen.

And now I'm anxious because it's like, oh, I thought you meant the tennis with your white no No, no, no the trip no because it is it is like oh shit Stuff can go wrong now that it's real. I mean there are definitely those last minute concerns You know you have like flight cancellations. They come up the things that are just outside your control Obviously like those things still linger over your head, right? Yeah. Yeah. But then the other thing that I was thinking, I am shocked.

It's still just you and me. You know, like this is a cool thing to have figured out. It's nuts. Yeah. You and me style. Yeah, and I should say, I don't know how much we've talked about this, but I want to thank you for stepping up as much as you have. Oh, bye. Like basically being a tour manager. Yeah, you know, like you, you really,

contacted the gigs, the venues and stuff. It's really, it's really huge. Yeah. Yeah. I and the wank's appreciated greatly. Yeah, I mean, it was, I could not have handled that. No, no, I mean, we, I looked into it at the very beginning and it was like everyone goes through a fucking service who has all the Contacts I think you learned why and I'm just like fucking no, it's Dan and I got Damn it. Yeah, we're stupid. We are going to die stupid and that's how it's gonna go. Yeah, and then you know There's something to be said for that. Yep. Um also, uh, you can call me Yep, um also you can call me What do you got damn it? Fuck no, I'm sprinkling a little bit of sugar. Okay on

The nugs Because I'm all about sweeten in the pot not good I got there that you did get there. Yeah, that is undeniable. Yep. In this case I wanted to be about the destination, not the journey. Right. Right. Right. No, I just said the journey was a struggle. It was yeah Yeah, here's something I'm thinking what so I have a slight bit of internalized guilt about the idea of somebody who would buy you know Buy a ticket to come to QED Because they want to see you the podcast and all of our other shows are sold out the idea of somebody who would buy a ticket to come to QED because they want to see the podcast

and all of our other shows are sold out. I think they'll get more than their dollars worth out of the conference as a whole. Totally. But I love sweetening pots. You're like sweetening pots. So here's what I'm gonna do. What are you gonna do?

For that show at QED. I'm going to bring one of the three first wine bottles that we ever had on the show. Oh, shit. And I'm going to give it to an audience member at the QED show. That's wild. We, for people who don't know from way back, we used to drink a lot of wine on the podcast. And it became something of a, we like to try all sorts of ones. So the first three bottles that we ever had on the first episodes, I kept those as a joke because no one was listening to our show. As like this will be valuable to someone someday.

Yeah, yeah. Now the jokes on me, because I think someone would really actually want that. It is kind of joke on us. It's kind of, yeah, it's weird. So that piece of unique memorabilia will be up for grabs. I'm not sure exactly what I'll do.

I don't know if I want to do a who's come from the furthest because that seems like I'm warming up at a stand-up crowd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we'll come up with some way to give it to someone who will cherish it. I'll say it. Okay. You're used to it.

I got more than enough of a stand-up crowd. Yeah, you have a lot more experience than that host and the MC. That's what I'll do it. Okay. You're used to it. I'm warning up a standup. Yeah, you have a lot more experience in that What I'll do yeah So Jordan today I am Exhausted yes, so if I'm a little bit loopy. I apologize for that I woke up very early this morning and could not get back to sleep. I'm doing okay all right But I feel it and I worry about it coming out in my speech. Right, right, right.

Well, you telling people about it is it coming out right? Bingo. You are 100% correct. You would only do that if it was you. So, but we have an episode to go over and it's it's rangel. Mm-hmm. Today, what I wanted to do was go over a bit of the recent info wars adjacent news. Sure. Because there's been quite a bit of things that have happened

since the last time we did a present day episode. And so I thought doing one episode of Alex's show really wouldn't suffice, but I also don't want to do six episodes of his show. So I have selected chunks that are important to various news pieces that have happened. So it's kind of a run down. Right. Or as Alex might call it a news blitz. A primer. Sure. I like a primer. Any of these things are fantastic ways to describe what is about to happen. Except all the stories are bullshit. Right. None of it matters and some of it really sucks sure, okay But we'll get back on it. Yeah, we'll get back to that in a minute here

But before we do Jordan, let's say hello to some new ones. That's great idea. So first R.F.D. Junior has my vote as the only candidate to release a song with Dickey Barrett daytime bartender. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much That is so sad to say yeah, that's boss don't song next I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. That is so sad to say. Yeah. That's a boss' tone song. Next, care, K-A-A-R-E, and tests. Care is, ah, goddamn it. Care is pronounced like car-e. Thank you so much, you're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk.

Thank you very much. Not fair. Sometimes I wonder if you, you know, I can read block texts. So I'm always wondering if you have the left straight left to right thing. I generally, I think I'm a little bit more able to see a sentence as a whole, but not right now. That's for sure. That's fair.

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Thank you very much. I just really funny though how much Dickey Barrett has songs about like bartending at times when you wouldn't think someone's bartending. Like in the song, jump through the hoops. Yeah, it's like my job. It's a nine to five nightmare. I'm serving whiskey, stale, wit, and beer.

Yeah. Like you're a nine to five bartender. Yeah. That sucks. I mean, maybe he's an airport bartender. Right, but that sucks. That does suck. Or you're working at a hotel bar or something.

Yeah, I can be right. It's some kind of place without a lot of character. You're not going to have a lot of fun drunks at 9.30 a.m. Yeah, but then there he has another song called the bartender's song as a... That you sir, may I have another really grown to love each other. I mean, like this peer in your friend that I've heard. Where's you that tells you the difference between the two?

You know, who's looking inwards and who's looking outwards? But I imagine someone singing that like rowdy bartender's song at like 11 a.m. You know, throwing a nine to five shift. Yeah, that's that's pressing. That's a little bit tough. Usually you wait into one for a song like that. I guess another drinking song doesn't that's not really like about bartending. Uh-huh. That's about counting on a remedy I've counted on before. Going with the cure that's never failed me. I counted on before, going with the cure that's never failed me. Enough of this. Yeah.

He's an anti-faxist. So depressing. All right. Okay. Let's regroup and listen to an auto context drop from today's show. This could be my last message. Things have gotten so serious here. I'm not being dramatic.

I'm telling you. He's not being dramatic. All right. This could be his last message. His last message. His final message. I can say that it already, it's not. He has given messages since the recording of that.

All right. So Jordan, we got a bunch of different things going on here today. And because of that, we're going to end up hearing a little bit from a number of people in the Info Wars stable. Mm-hmm. So we're going to start with some Owen Troyer news. Sure. Of course he was January 6th.

Yes. Did some business there? Who did? And so he, the news came out this week that he was going to be sentenced. Okay. And there's a possibility that he's gonna do time. Ooh, that'd be fun.

Yeah. So that is the first little bit of business that we are going to touch on here. And to give a little refresher for Owen's legal situation, in case folks aren't aware, he had a big mistake that he made that started everything. And that was on December 9th, 2019. He disrupted a House Judiciary Committee meeting while they were in session discussing one of the times Trump got impeached. After he refused to come to order, he was removed from the chamber and he was arrested.

Up to this point, I disagree with his politics, but I support his ability to do this. This is in the realm of activism, and in a situation like this, when you decide to engage with this level of direct action, you're also accepting the consequences that come along with it. You can agree or disagree with the appropriateness of the consequences, but you're kind of a loser if you do these sorts of things and don't take the resulting punishment with a stiff upper lip. Bold in your face protest and shitty whining, they don't play well together.

Yeah, I mean, that's the idea of the, the meaning of the protest is you accepting the consequences for it. It is a lot of the way that it engages with the people seeing the protest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you go to Congress in order to get attention, the act of getting attention is not going to make anything change.

It is the consistent level of awareness of the punishment for something being, you know, like, and when you, when you respond to it with like, why am I being punished? It's kind of, yeah, it's sad. Yeah, it's real sad. You should want to do some time. Yeah. Yeah. As a result of that arrest, Owen agreed to a deferred prosecution agreement. This is important to understand. Instead of accepting actual consequences like jail or a fine, Owen made a deal with the government, and he found this agreement preferable to whatever else was an option that was on the table. This agreement involved him agreeing, quote, not to utter loud threatening or abusive

language or to engage in any disorderly or disruptive conduct at any place upon the US capital grounds, or within any of the capital buildings with the intent to appeal disrupt or disturb the orderly conduct within any such building. He also couldn't break any other laws during this deferred prosecution period and he needed to do 32 hours of community service. 32 is an important number of hours. It is. Yeah.

And he did zero. Exactly. I think you can make an argument that the government is essentially taking away Owens right to protest at the Capitol here, and that might be a First Amendment issue if you really wanted to make it one. I don't really care, though, for two reasons. The first is that this prohibition would have gone away after his deferred prosecution period of four months passed.

And the second is that Owen agreed to it. If he read this and thought it was a horrible breach of his God-given rights, then it stands to reason that the right thing to do would have been to reject the deal and take your chances in court. The government didn't take any rights from Owen, they offered him a deal and Owen willingly gave up that right, or at least temporarily. Yeah. As we know, Owen failed to ever do that 32 hours of community service, so the four-month deferment of prosecution didn't end after four months. There's a chance, if he really were the target of the government,

the way Owen and Infoers like to present, he would have been scooped up as soon as that four-months lapsed, and he hadn't done his part of the deal, but instead things went as normal until he violated his agreement by participating in the events of January 6th. One of the main reasons given for why he was given lenience with getting the community serviced on even past that four months was that COVID made things harder, which is fun because he didn't believe code was real at the time. Right, so that's cool. Great.

That's the only reason he got arrested after January 6th. He never went to the building and most likely didn't commit any crimes that day, but he was in direct violation of a plea agreement he signed on to to avoid more serious consequences. Also Owen's lawyer is Norm Patis, so he can chalk that up as the third big L this year. Dude is in a slump. He's not having a good run. He is hurting. I mean, you got to bench

the guy sooner or later. Yeah, definitely. And I don't mean put him in make him a judge. I don't mean that. No, no, no, no, no, do not give him the bench. Okay. Yeah. I, it's too late. I've made him a judge. Yeah. So on June 23rd of this year, Owen pled guilty to a misdemeanor charge of entering or remaining in restricted grounds relating to January 6th. He was looking at three other misdemeanors which were dropped in exchange for the guilty plea because the government wasn't trying to destroy him. They were just trying to get all this stuff over with. The maximum penalty was one year in jail and a $100,000 fine which obviously he was never

going to get hit with. I was going over Owen's plea deal and they list his criminal history in there. One thing that was wild is that he was arrested one time. In 2011, for a DWI and possession of marijuana. Okay. Yeah. What do you think about that? Oh, that's fine.

Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. It's not that interesting on its own, but what is interesting is that that happened in Boone County. That's the county in Missouri where Colombia is located, meaning that me and Owen Troy are were both probably in Colombia at that point in time and swelting a ton of weed around that stretch. I went to a lot of weird house parties.

So it's entirely possible that we were at the same party and never knew it. That's I refused to know. No, Owen, you have to let me know if you were ever on East Campus. Nope. You got to let me know But I'm out. Did you ever go to J slums me out of here? Of this game. I don't know who's watching everything me and Owen play flip-cup once. Why am I in a coma? I think I'm in a coma. I knew I knew he was from Missouri But I thought like you in a coma. I knew it was from Missouri, but I thought like, you know, mostly St. Louis. That's where he was.

I didn't, I didn't think of, if you're from St. Louis, it's very unlikely you're going to get a DUI driving through Boone County. Right. I guess maybe if you're drunkenly going from Kansas City to St. Louis, you'd go through Columbia on I 70, but maybe he was tailgating. It's, it, it's a long tailgate. That is a long tailgate. But you never know.

The Mizzou fans are strange. It is the Cuck destroyer. Not this point. Oh, no, that's true. Maybe a sports reporter. So recently the government released their sentencing memorandum to the court. And in it they recommended four months in jail, 12 months probation, 60 hours of community service, and a $500

fine. This was largely predicated on Owen's actions and his role in the months of incitement surrounding the events that would transpire on the 6th. Owen showed literally zero remorse for his actions and in the time after his offense, if anything he made things worse. I understand where the government sends MMO is coming from, for sure. Personally, I'm wary of this punishment. I say that as someone who isn't really aware

of what a person would get, like who isn't Owen Troyer for trespassing in slightly different circumstances. So maybe the sentence is actually completely normal for this kind of thing, like breaking deferred prosecution agreement trespassing. I just find myself torn between what I think is fully appropriate carrying out of a sentence for a crime, and what I think is more productive for limiting the damage people like Alex

and Owen can do. If Owen is sent to jail for a few months, that's not going to be that severe of a punishment for him, and he will learn zero lessons from it. However, it will be a bananza for Info Wars propaganda. They can run coverage that the government is jailing journalists and all other manner of fabrications around the story. And the fact that Owen went to jail will make that propaganda that much more persuasive to an accepting audience.

I don't think he should just get a slap on the wrist, but jail seems like it plays into Info Wars hands. I would have loved to see like a creative sentencing judge here, one of those like sort of nonsense judges, like give you the placards and stuff. Well, I mean, the problem here is that if you are, you're saying that you want the crime to happen again, but you want them to get hurt first.

Like if you don't... You want the crime to happen again. Yeah. But oh, and we'll make sure it's successful especially in the next time. No, that's what I'm saying. If you're the want the crime to happen again, but oh, and we'll make sure it's successful. It's not that's what I'm saying. If you're the person writing the sentence, this is it's like it's like fucking banking. It's like, oh, okay, you've got a million dollar fine. Now, you made a billion dollars, but that million dollars will teach you a big lesson.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's stupid. I think you're wasting everybody's time. I think the punishment should have to be a probationary period of six months where he has to have somebody Maybe me. Yeah, I'll do it for free Be on his show and go bye bye bye whenever he says something that's not true Yeah, because that would actually have a disruptive role in the things that he does that are dangerous Exactly as opposed to going to jail where yeah, we're on the risk of turning them into some kind of like a weird martyr He's just gonna call into infowars.

Well, always it against the rules for him to be on air. No, I'm gonna have to spoil this ahead of time since you brought it up. One of the other stories that we were gonna catch up on was that Enrique Tario was scheduled to be on infowars on Wednesday. Yeah. And that didn't happen. Oh no, what happened? I don't know. Oh, I just maybe he couldn't get to the phone because he's in jail. There is that. Maybe maybe the warden was sick of the bullshit. It's entirely possible that he was just in punished in for some stupid infraction. Or maybe he realized this is going to be worse for me than not doing it. Probably a smart move. So anyway, head down, you'll get out in eight eight ten years. Yeah, I am not that

interested in Alex's take on this but I decided to check in on what Harrison Smith had to say about Owen's arrest and so he put out a video that was about Owen going to jail and how unfair this is and everything and so I thought hey let's check in on our little Nazi boy and so a little'll not see boy. And here's where we're going to start. There's a reason that Alex Jones was targeted more than anybody else. Obviously, he has a particular skill in getting information out in a way that is more provocative and attention grabbing than anybody else. That's true. He's been warning about what we now see, manifest all around us for the last 20 years.

He reported accurately on the activities of the globalist and their plans for world domination and global depopulation. There are lots of reasons that could contribute to it, but I think one of the main things really is summed up in possibly the longest standing slogan of Info Wars, which is, you are the resistance. If you're hearing this, you are the resistance. In other words, it's not just that Alex Jones talked about all this stuff after all. A lot of people talk about all this stuff, maybe not in the way that Alex does and to the extent that Alex does,

but it's not his talking about it, I believe that really put a target on his back. It was the activism. It was telling people to get involved. It was not just describing what's going on in the political and geopolitical world as some sort of sports game that you're just watching and have no impact on the outcome,

but actually encouraging people to manifest their will to get involved. So I totally agree with what Harrison is saying, except I think he's speaking in code a little bit. Alex didn't speak the truth and encourage people to his activism, which is why he was punished. He lied to people and demonized vulnerable individuals and groups, which Harrison calls speaking the truth. He encouraged people to harass and threaten individuals like the parents of slain children, which is what Harrison is calling activism. These are the

things that have made Alex a quote to target, not any kind of threat he poses to the world's power elites. If you just understand that Harrison and all of these people are full of shit and never speak plainly, then you can see how they superimpose that bullshit onto reality. Nothing Alex does or advocates for is even the potential to lead to meaningful protest or activism. At the least destructive, it all leads to things that enrich Alex. At the most, you end up with an attempt to overthrow the country and install an extreme right wing dictator.

It's a con or a coup, but it is never activism. Nothing in between. I saw you jogging a little note down there. I just I just think it's a bad idea for Harrison to say that Alex is telling people to do things Considering he has said in court many times that he is not doing that. I'm just telling the news man. It is an issue Hey, look, I'm just reading the headlines and here here's the thing I mean if I'm a Harrison Smith this is what disgusts me about these people. This is what disgusts me right. Comedy days if you know like if I'm finding out somebody is working at you know like whenever I took a Zaini's MC job you know like if I find out that a comic is going to jail, I'm thinking

spots opening up, right? Then I'm getting out there, I'm showing off, all right? I'm trying to get that attention, right? So I can take that spot. Harrison is not doing shit. Can I suggest that it's because he doesn't have it in him? That's what I'm saying. They disgust me. You should be like, if you don't have it in you,

he should be hiring a coach. He should be taking improv classes right now. Something. He's like the guy when the like light turns green. He doesn't know to hit the gas. Yeah. Like there is no fight or like fight instinct in him. Yeah, it's just, it's sad.

It's just sad to watch. It is. You've got, you've got Owen, the number two, a week number two. Right. A very vulnerable position. Yes. If any of you ding dong's were capable at all, you would, you serve him in a minute. So easy.

Yeah. And you just get a meadies, even got to be gone. Maybe. I still think that there's a chance, I mean, that's just the recommendation as at the time they were recording this. So like, there is a chance that he won't see a day in prison. I mean, just, just, I want to deal. And this is all I want. Make him actually do 60 hours of community service and take or or put him in jail. He would call like doing another caravan to our community service. Doesn't count.

No. I just want him to actually do the 60 hours or face consequences. That should be the real test of the main fail that. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. So you're saying two strikes. Two strikes. All right. You got it. I mean, hey, listen, we all think

that we're going to get away with not doing community service. True. Right. So this video was supposed to be about Owen. Right. And so far, it's about Alex. It's entirely about Alex. So we got to pivot a little bit over to Owen. All right. When, when Chase joined Info Wars a little while ago, and he was that's behind the scenes guy, things on social media. And he was going, I didn't expect Owen to be as shadow band as Alex. Obviously, is the is the main big guy and he's just absolutely banned on everything. I mean, they've got AI systems that can detect his voice

and face and will strike you down if they detect it. And Chase was shocked to realize that own Troy had basically all the same restrictions. This is complete lunacy. If what Harrison is saying were true, I would never be able to post our podcast anywhere without getting shadow banned. If this were true, then all the memes about Alex wouldn't get millions of views. There's so many things that go all over social media that are just videos of him going, BAAAHHHH! absurd. These dudes just aren't really as popular as they pretend to be,

and they fetishize their own oppression so much that they need this kind of story to justify at all. Yeah. It's pretty sad. Just deal with being pretty successful, instead of someone holding you down. I was just thinking about this, just like, man, it is so great to be pretty good. I mean, I was, I was, you know, some level of fame. I expected nothing and we have exceeded that by a little and it's great

Yeah, it's great. Yeah, never would I have thought we'd be Pretty okay. Yeah, and I would like it helps that I've never wanted stuff You know like I don't want things or anything like that and that we just enjoy you know and that we don't pretend that we're in a battle with a like Mythological demon enemy. No. That probably helps us a little. No, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it is, I, here's what I'll, I'll tell you this. Here's what I think is what mainly does it. We're still recording in your room, buddy. True. Just still here. And that's not going to change. No. The room may change a little bit.

I have drapes. Yep. There's some more decor. If we tried to move to like a studio, I think we would have to have Ego's commenser it with like, you know, you would have to be like, oh, I'm a studio person. Well, one time I tried to get those arms that attach to the desk so you can hold your mic on it. And it just sat there.

I was like, I'm not using it. No. But I thought like, it's like, it's what people do. That's what people do. They have the thing and they do the thing. Absolutely. We like to do it. We're doing it. We've always done. Oh, well, maybe we're complacent in some ways. Probably anyway, Harrison's a fucking dope. Yeah. Says, yeah, he took a megaphone and led the crowd to the capital, planting in the minds of

the readers that, oh, and somehow stormed the capital that he was the one who led people there to, you know, specifically attack it, nothing of the sort. He was in the crowd that was walking towards the capital, I believe, after the, you know, violence had started, violence that was started, of course, by the police. He said, quote, the Democrats are posing as communists, but we know what they really are. They're just tyrants. They're tyrants. And so today on January 6, we declared death to tyranny, death to tyrants.

Shroyer did not stop the site of tear gas or sounds of explosion on the west side of the capital. He continued marching around to the top of the east steps, chanting 1776. Well, throw them in prison. Well, throw them in jail, chanting the of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of

the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of Alex Jones. In my introduction, I presented a better defense for Owen than Harrison is doing, and there's one specific reason why. It's because Harrison can't actually use all the real information about the case without

giving up the game. Yeah. Harrison cannot bring up that none of these defenses that he's making matter. No one's saying that Owen stormed the capital or that he was the leader of the crowd. It doesn't matter if he told people not to go in. None of that matters because he was in violation of a deferred prosecution agreement that he willingly signed just by being on the capital grounds

that day and having a bullhorn. None of the other shit matters at all. Harrison can spend all day with these meaningless, but oh, and it's a good boy type argument, but it doesn't matter because he can't get real with it. I mean, the thing that still gets in my craw is that if he'd had just done the goddamn 32 hours, then the agreement would have been over.

It would have been, he could have been, he could have gotten in trouble for being there. But he wouldn't have been arrested for the action that he took. But he wouldn't have been arrested for the actions that he took. Yeah, yeah. A much better defense for Owen actually. And I think that's kind of what you're touching on is that COVID made it impossible for him to do his community service.

Perfect. But saying that violates a fair amount of enforce narrative foundation. So Harrison can't do that. It's all the defense to say that a sentence of jail time is excessive for the violation of this deferred prosecution agreement and that there should be some lenience. But Harrison can't say that because he needs to make Owen a victim of the state, not a victim of his own laziness and carelessness. Yeah. Because InfoWars editorial position has an investment in narratives that are broader than just Owen,

they're forced to make weaker arguments for Owen's defense than me, someone who hates Owen Shroyer, though, I might have partied with him in Missouri. It's possible. It's possible. Yeah. Fuck them, man. They can't even defend their own because they won't get real. I know. It is a weird thing that it's like the thing you do is specifically in opposition to yourself. Yep. And Harrison should recognize that in the off chance that he ever is on the wrong side of this

There's so many things that they could learn from You are not more important than the grips. Yeah, I mean We've said a number of times and it's it stands. I understand that it feels it would feel bad to be yelled at by us If you were on info wars, but it's a good idea to listen to our show to keep yourself safe. Right. You know, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, there's good advice to be heard even from people who clearly don't like you much and think you suck and you're a baby Nazi. Yep. So anyway, we have one more clip here of Harrison because I just got sick of tired of this dumbass. These people did something based on a belief. He shares that belief. Therefore, he is guilty of doing that thing

That's what they're telling you Guess what I guess I'm also guilty like as I'm reading this I'm trying to figure out like what it what did Owen do that I didn't do he was in Washington DC at the time Okay And Okay, he talked about the election being stolen. So did I. He's probably pretty angry about it. So was I.

I mean, it's sort of horrifying. Oh, and violated a deferred prosecution agreement by being at the Capitol, whereas Harrison didn't. He didn't have one. Alex's wife was marching with them, and you might notice she hasn't been arrested either. It's probably because she also didn't have a deferred prosecution agreement that she was violating by being there. This shit sucks. I was hoping Harrison would have Owen

on to talk about this, but I get the sense that maybe Owen is hip to the situation, and that he doesn't wanna make things worse for himself. No, no, no, no, no, yeah. As it is, this is a complete snooze, and that's all we're gonna cover from Harrison's show and Owen's Legal troubles good golf if this is the best Harrison could come up with to defend his compatriot then he's terrible at this

And he's not even trying So at this point I saw that we should probably jump to the next story and the next story I intended to cover was the Enrique Tario thing sure, but of course that didn't happen Yeah, as is as is usually the case. But because you mentioned something that was adjacent to it, I'm deprived of the opportunity to pull the rug on you. I'm sorry. Yeah. I apologize. Oh, well, you can't win them all. You can't. So we have to get to number three. Okay. Okay. Number three. And that, of course, is the death of the head of the Wagner group, Yves Geni Pregozion. Pregozion, excuse me.

Oh yeah, we haven't talked about that. Yeah, he died on August 23rd in a playing crash that almost everybody who has paid any attention to the world is pretty sure was done by Putin. Pregozion had recently attempted a bit of a coup and led the Wagner forces to take over a Russian health town and said that they were gonna march on Moscow, only to later speak with Putin and come to an agreement He was gonna face criminal charges, but those are dropped and he was set to be exiled to Belarus along with the Wagner forces that were loyal to him

And then he died in a plane crash, which is widely believed to have been caused by a bomb that was on board the plane And as we know Putin is a thing for killing his opponents. Yeah. Naturally, Alex and the Infowars crew blamed the globalists and Ukraine, which is kind of boring. All things considered. Yeah, that's let's. Yeah. But recently, Owen Schroier had an interesting take on the situation on the war room. And that's something that we should give a little bit of a listen to. All right. So here we go. Okay. Here's Owen. All right. Before we start taking your phone calls, let's just show this

video to you. the Those wondering whether I'm alive or not, how am I doing? It's the weekend, the second half of August in 2023. I'm now in Africa. So fans of the discussion of my elimination, personal life, earnings or something else. In fact, everything is OK. So who knows what the real story here is. Like isn't it Owen's job as somebody who reports the news to have a better bit of information than who knows?

That really sounds like someone who doesn't give a fuck about the job they're doing. If Owen wanted to go one step past who knows, like actual journalists and media outlets do, he could have learned that the outfit that pergusion is wearing in that video is identical to the one that he wore in a video that was posted on August 21st, which would have been the weekend in the second half of August, which is when this was recorded. This is two days before the plane crash, and the references he makes to his elimination aren't about that crash. They're about the other very obvious rumors surrounding how he was a dead man walking

after trying that whole coo thing. Yeah, Owen and everyone at Infoers needs to stop their investigation at the point of who knows, because if they find any further information, they don't get to play their games, and then they have no reason to exist. If Owen looked any further into this and found all the indications that this video is from prior to his death, then there isn't a story here. And there's no opportunity to spend conspiracies to keep the audience interested. And without those conspiracies, you aren't interested. You aren't interested. Yeah. Is that a contraction? Yeah. Interesting. Oh, no. So yeah, that's a

Progozen might be alive is maybe the theory we're running with that's that's the thing I would full-throat that theory like because because here's what yeah, why not you can't be can't disprove it You can't be dumb enough. He's somewhere to think that he didn't know he was under Assassination. Oh, yeah, he would have to be incredibly stupid. Yeah, I think the idea behind this would be that he faked his death. He of course faked his death. You would have to fake your death.

That's the first thing I would do. If the moment I signed an agreement with Putin, I would be like, okay, how are we gonna fake my death? Cause that dude is a murderer. Yeah, he murders people. It's gotta be a crazy death. Yeah. Can make it like so people don't think it's fake. And it's a big plane crash and it's got to be a crazy death yeah like so people don't think it's fake and it's a big plane crash and

it's a bomb and it's all the stuff and and the they and of course they have to say that they found his remains there's no way Putin is gonna say that oh he faked his death and I know it because I didn't kill him right if he faked his death and Putin knows he faked his death and he's still gonna be trying to come and answer him. Yeah, but he still has to keep the charade. Exactly. Yeah. Because the chess game at this point.

Exactly. Yeah. So anyway, Owen has a little bit more of a take on this. And I'm not really all that interested anymore. It passed the point that Owen is suggesting this. Right. But this clip is fun because apparently Owen is on a pet name basis with hook ocean. OK.

Obviously, people are going to take that seriously in RDR. There was already rumors that there was a body double or he switched planes or whatever before the one got shot down. I mean, 99% chance Putin made the call. He's smart enough not to have his fingerprints on it. And in classic KGB fashion, he's at the brick summit shaking hands, drinking wine while the thing happens. Oh, I didn't know anything about it. I mean, this, if, if I thought in the past that Putin and Priggie were running some sort of a, their own shale, I would say that if, if Pregozon is still alive, that that's proof that was not the case and there is a real struggle going on.

But we know there already is a real struggle at the Russian military. Wait, what? Yeah. So Owens take here is essentially that if Pregozon is dead, then there isn't a real struggle in the military. And it's a roller. And there isn't a real struggle in the military. Is that right? You guess. But if he faked his death, then there is.

Because he's leading. Maybe I'm backwards. I'm not entirely sure, but either way it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I mean, I just feel like this is just, this is just too obvious. All right, either Putin killed him, or he faked his own death.

There's no, you would have to say. Alex would generally like to go with blaming it on Zelensky, because that works for his pro-Russia living. But that, I mean, I understand that, but I mean, like, it doesn't make any sense for anybody but Putin. It makes so much sense. It's not, you're right.

It also does not make sense for Zelensky really. It makes no sense for anyone but Putin. No one. Like not even people who want to maintain stability in Russia, it is more unstable with Putin there than without him. And everybody wanted him to stay alive except for Putin. Just go to Belarus. Man, crazy.

So anyway, he's swinging. I went swinging for the fences. You can say that about him. All right So the next thing that made some headlines unfortunately takes us back to Harrison Smith Oh god damn it and the past week or so the hashtag ban the ADL had been trending which Twitter's owner Elon Musk even got into the act about Now he's just getting in having fun to get rid of this ADL The levels of rampant anti-Semitism on display was truly shocking.

And to be clear, having legitimate criticisms of the ADL is not anti-Semitic. They're an organization that makes decisions and no one has a perfect track record. But it's important also to be clear that this is not what that hashtag was. Or any of that. No, no, no.

People like Alex really hate the ADL because they point out how the stuff that they say is really anti-smetic and dangerous, which prompts them to insist that the ADL is trying to ban free speech. Right, it's not a sincere argument, it's a game. Anyway, the ADL has been a target for Alex going all the way back to his early career when he and Mel Gibson's Nazi dad whined about them on air at length for criticizing the passion of the Christ. Yeah, this is a lane that Info Wars has always driven in And I think that they're feeling a little left out when they saw the shitheads on social media playing their game. So Harrison decided to get splashy. Oh no. He got on air on September 1st and said that the ADL was quote, our self-appointed,

unelected Jewish overlords. On its face, you can easily see the signaling that he's doing to anti-smetted groups that he panders to. He evokes the idea of Jewish overlords, a hat tip to the protocols that the elders desire. That's about as subtle as a car horn. Yeah. Some media outlets covered this comment that Harrison made, so I'm not going to recover that. And if I'm being honest, it's really not that interesting. Yeah. That's what Harrison and Alex say basically every day. These outlets that are breathlessly covering this one comment, Harrison made would be scandalized on a non-stop basis if they actually watched these people's shows.

Yeah, it is wild. This is tame for like their commentary about the ADL. Yeah, I was blown away that this is, I thought you were about to say that he then said some real Nazi shit. No, that was what some of the headlines were about the Jewish overlords comment. I mean, listen, I don't, I don't support it. Sure. No, it's bad, but it doesn't, it, if we don't have a, we don't have a meter anymore, though,

no, we just don't. No, and my only meter at all here is that like, you could have found something way worse than this. Yeah, totally. Totally. If you're in the business of a headline, there's better headlines that are far more like uniquely offensive. Right. Right. But I think this is bland offensive, but it is still offensive.

Right. I think I think what it is, right, is because we live in it. We know the varying flavors of horror. It's this is right. Do it is a dude. Right. Right. Right. It's a pass A. Yeah. It's awful. But for them, there's only one flavor of horror. There's, you know, it's a, and so they've got their horror. So they're not going to go into more horror to wait deeper into it. See, that's the difference between them and me. I'm built. I built different. You're built. Different. I dive in and like, oh, if there's this bad

thing in here, I wonder what else is there? Oh, you and Patrick Holmes both Missouri. Right. Patrick my homes. Oh, and Troy and I once did a cake stand contest. All Missouri boys. Why not? I don't know if he's from Missouri, but he plays with the juice. Yeah, I do. I do want to cover something. And it's not Harrison's comments. Okay. So I do want to cover something, and it's not Harrison's comments. Okay. So I'm going to cover Harrison fielding a call from a listener after this dust up.

This is a caller who's mad that Harrison isn't anti-Semitic enough. Sure. Which creates a dynamic that I actually do think is interesting. This is territory that Alex himself is fairly used to navigating, but Harrison is far and away the worst and least talented on Air Inforced talent.

So let's see how he deals with this. Yeah, see if he can swing this call. I'm interested. So here's where we start. Okay. With that, we go back out to your phone calls for the spinal segment for welcoming. Laura Lumer, we have gold in Arizona. Gold in Arizona says the West is collapsing.

Thanks for calling in gold. You're on the air. Okay. Actually, I said the West is collapsing because of people like you and Alex Jones because you refuse to acknowledge God's word that says that unbelievers like Jewish people who don't believe not including Jewish Christians are our persecutors, relations for 21 to 31, is that they are our persecutors. And you refuse to acknowledge that. You like to be like the gay people who think they can just manipulate God's word, ignore God's word, and get away with it. You're no different than they

are when you ignore God's word. And then you want to act surprised when the ADL is in control of the next surprise when the ADL is in control of the definition of anti-Semitism, which is basically Christianity to them. But, you know, they're validating every Christian throughout history who has said, listen, these people are dangerous. They're out for blood. They want us. You and Alex Jones, you want to live in a naive fantasy that a freedom of religion. You know, it's freedom of religion, that's not explicitly Christian, it's a Satanism. Alistair Crowley said, do as that will, it should be the whole of the law. So, you know, do whatever you want,

that's Satanism, that's what you promote. You and Alex Jones, you promote Satanism. And then you want to ask the prize when we're being persecuted by Jews, which the Bible warns you about. And go and read that everybody, Galatians 4, 21 through 31, they are our persecutors. And the Bible and the invulations also says that they called themselves Jews, but actually worship Satan. Wait, what is that? What is that? What it says? I'm just, did you call

gay? I'm confused. I just, I'm saying, I'm saying the gay people ignore God's word and you do the same thing. We can, I ignore God's word. Very quickly. How so? So it's cute that Harrison tries to deflect things with a joke there with the, are you calling me gay bit of business? It's stupid and it's only meant to buy himself a little time and hopefully put the collar on the defensive, but you can see it doesn't work because this collar means what he's saying. and he's thought out his position. Harrison has to do this because in this call he needs to dance. This collar has a coherent position, which isn't to say that he's right or that I agree

with him, nor is it to say that he's right that if you're a Christian you have to hate all of the religions, but his position follows from its premises. Like it actually goes from A to B to C. Right. Harrison's does not, because in force ideology is so dependent on hiding behind crypto language like the globalists in order to mask the real themes that they're preaching. That dynamic puts Harrison in a bad spot. Alex will usually be able to handle this with yelling, putting someone on hold hold and then assigning positions to them that they didn't say in order to attack a Strawman version of what they bring up

Harrison's tactic here at the start is a bit worse from a tactical perspective I wouldn't have I wouldn't have gone this way if I got this this vibe off this guy already Out the gate you let him talk too long right he got too much airtime But Alex would never have let him get that much airtime. I think that part of that is because Harrison agrees with him. Sure. Which is second because he doesn't know how to handle this. No, he doesn't.

He's in a bad spot. I mean, just try, get a coach, something. Uh-huh. Do some laps. Invested. You're something, you know? Do some mock radio shows where you can encounter difficult situations in a safe environment.

Like it bums me out, but like I, when I stop and really think about it, for years of my life, for free or for money, I just went out and yelled at people. Well, you know, to get better at it. Take it even a step further. You're just talking about shows. Yeah.

Think about how many nights were at open mics? No, yeah. The only people that you're talking to were other comics who hated you, didn't give a fuck and were just waiting to go up and do the same thing you're doing. Totally. A completely ungenerous audience where you're doing the,

going through the motions somewhat and also like feeling out where words are and how it feels to say different things, because given the opportunity to be in front of a group of people you wanted to be ready. Yep These guys don't do that. They don't do it. No, it just never occurred You know one year I I was out More than 27 days of air of every month except for February. I was out 27 day. I don't know. I don't know whatever it was But it was like

every night hitting an open mic or doing a show. Yeah. Getting very good at the thing that I wanted to be good at. Yeah. There were stretches of time where I was like minimum one a night. Yeah. One minimum one time on stage a night. And like, you know, you're still doing a day job. You're still like, it's brutal. It's brutal. But a lot of that, like, I mean, so much of that was because there's so much talent here in Chicago that people were inspiring. Yeah. And then you had people like Danny Callis around when I first

gave you the three-micon-night advice. Oh, man, Danny, I'm so mad at him for drilling that in my head. You got this guy who's hilarious. Really funny. Who's a headliner and it works his ass off. And still it opened mics in. Right. And it...

More open mics than you. Makes you feel so lazy. Yep. In a good way. In an inspiring way. If you're not going out and putting the time in. Makes you want to hustle, makes you want to grind it. It makes you a better comic.

And I'll let us cheer. Never forgive him for it. Right. So, um, so this caller, the brought up Galatians, yes, and we'll get into that a little bit later. I was hoping we would. Yeah, but for now, let's just move along the call. there are a lot of so called Christians who promote being gay or they say it's okay to be gay or they themselves are gay and they say oh yeah God's okay with that and they're ignoring God's word. That's what I'm saying the dynamic is that they ignore God's word and we can say listen what's wrong with you don't you see clearly here what it says about being gay and they will argue with you all day long about how no God not really like that and you're doing the same thing. Have you have you have you checked and have you checked your eye for a plank of wood today gold? Have you do you remember what Jesus said about pointing out a Bible judo?

You did something wrong right? No one's allowed to point out where you're doing something wrong. I'm trying to make you guys better. Oh, oh, I should, I should, I should thank you for helping me in all this God's word and quit ignoring God's word and quit hurting the country and the whole civilization in the West. Harrison's underwater in this. Yeah, this is not good. He's a flounder. He tried his Bible, Judo, and then he got punched in the face and he wilted. Yeah, wilted. Yeah, you know, pull the log out of your own eye before the spec. Oh, so I can't tell you anything. And then he, and then he, oh, God, damn, I had one move. Yeah, I thought that would really make this guy on the defensive and it didn't work. I am still on the offensive punching me in the face.

Yeah. So then it comes to a point where Harrison's like, what do you want me to do? And the answer is fucking obvious. Yeah. But he still asks, okay. And quite hurting the country and the whole civilization in the West and actually acknowledge God's word by doing what I still don't I still don't understand what it is that you think that we're doing. Unbelievers, okay? Yeah, not me, I believe in God. No, I'm saying, no, when you say you believe in God, you're supposed to believe in God's word. I'm just believing the way in the God and the way you believe in God.

I see, you're supposed to, you're the right one and everybody else is wrong. Present another translation or a better understanding of what we're being told in Galatians 421 through 31. Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you. That's enough. That's enough gold. Thank you for the call. I just, you know, it's, I'll try to be nice here. I'll try to be nice. Good for you. Too late. I mean, you let him talk too long to hang up on him to there and save face. Yeah. You could have hung up on him earlier and been like, I don't accept this kind of talk on my show and maybe stood on your own two feet. Yeah. Let him talk too long, he clowned on you and now you look so weak hanging up. Yep. So I told you we give acticalations because he brought it up

again. So I'm just going to read that 10 verses Did you did you find a better translation? No, but I have an interpretation and and context for it Uh-huh. That will be helpful for this anti-Semitic fuck. Sure. So here is the verse Is versus. Mm-hmm. Sorry. It's chunk of text. Yeah. Quote Tell me you who want to be under the law. Are you not aware of what the law says? For it's written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and one by the free woman.

His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise. These things are to be taken figuratively. The woman represents two covenants, or the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves. This is Haggar.

Now Haggar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. For it is written, be glad Baron women, you who never bore a child, shout for joy, and cry aloud, you who were never in labor, because more are the children of the desolate women than of her who has a husband. Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. At that time, the sun born according to the flesh persecuted the sun born by the power of the spirit. It is the same now but what does the scripture

say? Get rid of the slave woman and her son. For the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son. Therefore brothers and sisters we are not children of the slave woman but of the free woman. So do you understand the way that this could be used by this guy interpretively to be like, the slave woman is representative of Jews, the free woman is representative of Christians? But it's really a lot more complicated than this.

So Galatians is a book in the Bible that is one of the Paul letters. One of the letters that Paul was sending to his church, his churches that he's established, like Romans, the Roman church, Corinthians, the Corinth church. That's the Loneans, yeah. So you have all of these things.

And Paul, his whole game was going around, he was founding these churches, or going to these communities and being an apostle, to these already existing places. Now Galatians, Galatia is a place where he had a real sense of ownership over these churches. And this letter, Galatians, is pretty salty because here's what's going on at this time.

He's founded these churches that he really feels like are his, and he is preaching this way of existing and this way of relating to the laws of like the traditions. It was infighting between his and the other apostles about how the actual law was the it's mostly about circumcision Yeah, honestly, that sounds right and ways of like keeping kosher and what have you Yeah, so he's established these churches and there are other apostles that are coming in and they are preaching away that It is a post to what he's saying it involves keeping with these older laws right?

He's saying it involves keeping with these older laws. Right. So yeah, the people that are there in Glacia, they are not people who are like Jewish people who are converting to this new Christ-centric form, which it wasn't understood as like Christianity and opposition to Judaism at the time. No. It's far more complex.

Things are a lot more fluid whenever you don't have the Catholic church. Right. And so you had different influences coming in. And Paul felt a sense of ownership over those Galatian churches. Yeah. And so there's this desire to be like, no, no.

The people who follow the law, they aren't the people who are like me. And so it's not like the Jews are over here and the Christians are over here. It's a Paul kind of defending his turf area. And as was pointing out to me by my dad when I was talking to him about it, it's like this is also about circumcision. And like Paul is being like, don't circumcise. And like, that's a battle you can only lose once.

And that those way put it in like And like, that's a battle you can only lose once. And that's the way you put it. And like, down, that's a good point. Because he's pretty hot. He's coming in hot, as it were in these letters. But then there's also places that you can find like fairly different positions that Paul is giving over time to other churches because they're in different circumstances.

And there's less ownership that he feels over those churches. So when you hear what's written in here, obviously for approaching it from an anti-Semitic lens, and looking for things to justify and say, like, hey, it's biblical, my hatred of Jewish people. Sure. You can kind of get that there, but it's something we talked about a hundred times.

It's like, if you have a position that you want to justify, you probably will be able to find just about anything in the Bible and force it into the whole that you need it to fit into. Yeah. Why else would it have lasted this long? It's very useful in a lot of ways, with good and for bad. I mean, that's the idea. We don't keep things that aren't useful

as a species yeah so that those are those were my notes of the uh... understand that the context right about uh... glacier the pulse coming in hot you feel like he owns these churches right i do remember that paul kind of gets to be a bit of an asshole later well actually no i think that was a question that I had for my dad I think my is Paul kind of a dick by I think my understanding of it was Paul didn't change that much Salon Paul ain't that different that was my that was my understanding of the his later actions. Mm-hmm. Yeah

Yeah, there's He polls pretty like mad at these folks who are coming in and having like a different message for the churches that he feels like are his own. Like here's a little bit also from chapter 5, verse 11 and 12. Brothers and sisters, if I'm still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case, the offense of the cross has been abolished. For those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and amasculate themselves. Like there's like this aggression that he's coming in because of that context surrounding

it. In this caller, you know, he asked for another interpretation of this and another understanding of it that doesn't say, hey, the Jews are our persecutors. And that's it. Right. He's not interested in that. And Harrison is unequipped to deal with this in any form. He doesn't even know this verse that the person is talking about. So he's in no position to engage with the bigot on the bigot's terms. Yeah. And and and then refute what the bigot is saying in order to defend in for wars position as, I guess, an outlet that is too multicultural.

I mean, the thing that always confuses me is that people somehow imagine that people were different back then. You know, and it's like, if you put any burgeoning religion into a space in time where you can't communicate instantly with all other groups of that. Then the next time y'all get together, you're all gonna find out you believe weird different shit. That's how it works every goddamn time. Well I mean think about it if you go to college away and you come back and you find

that your friend is now into something strange. happens every time a small social group and able to communicate completely with another small social group will find out the next time they get together that they disagree on something and then they're gonna bitch at each other and that's the problem with religion so say it so here I have this clip is about three minutes long and I'm keeping it as a whole because it's the rest of Harrison's response. Oh boy. He tries to be nice and here's his response to this caller who wants him to. I feel like I think he's going to hate Jewish people in this response. It's a very least incompetent response. Okay. Try to be nice here. I'll try to be nice. It's it's people like yourself, Gold, that really make me question whether it's all worth it.

After all, is anybody else on any air wave going after the ADL the way that we're going after them, going after the evil people, the way that we go after them? Is anybody else on any platform, criticize Israel Israel the way that I do, not because they're Jewish, but because they do evil things? Wait, wait, wait. So the three groups he has there are the ADL, uh-huh, okay, Israel and evil people. Yeah. Interesting.

Yeah. Just like every government does. Does anybody go out on a limb? Is anybody have as many articles as we do, calling us anti-semites, calling us horrible things because we stand up for the rights of Americans against anybody who's trying to circumscribe or cut them off regardless of who's doing it. So here we are taking all the slings and bullets, actually counteracting the narrative that is continuously

laid down by the mainstream media. And instead of people encouraging us, instead of people saying, wow, we really appreciate how you guys are going on a limb and saying things in such an extreme way that's truthful and that's necessary, we get little ankle biters like yourself that tell us we're not doing it enough, we're not doing it the way that you would do it. Thank God this guy got hung up on otherwise. Wow. In a way to respond. Yeah, okay. In your interpretation of the Bible. And it really makes this look around and go, okay, so we're suffering all of this backlash. We're, I have our friends and family believing horrible things about us because the media tells them things that aren't

true. We're suffering all of this backlash because we insist on just getting forth right and up front about what we believe and loving everybody just like Jesus Christ instructed us to. And what are the people that we're trying to fight for? Tell us that we're actually the cause of all of the evil.

It's actually our fault. And actually, there's no appreciation for what we do. It's not good enough. So what you're doing is taking the few people that are actually fighting for Christianity, fighting for the West, fighting for the actual values that America was founded on and thrived on until they've been systematically

dislocated from our system. You're taking those people that are actually standing up, people like myself, and you're making them just go, yeah, why would it, why, it's not worth it. Why would I do that? Why would I put myself out there? Why would I make myself even more of a target when even the people that agree with me and are fighting with me are just ankle-biting, petulant little scumbags like yourself, Gull. Do you realize what this is? Your problem is that he's whining. You know, what effect this has on people who are actually putting our problems out

for somebody's life? And actually suffering the slings and arrows from the mainstream media as we are pushing back against their satanic agenda and recognizing it fully and that I've like, what would you rather? What would you rather I do, Gold? What would you rather I do? Talk about this on a daily basis continually. How did he get this enough for you? You're not satisfied. You want more. It's just then you do it, Gold. You go out and do it.

You go out and put yourself on TV. You go out, put yourself on the radio and say the things that you want to say and see how well it works out for you. Until the meantime, keep your criticisms to yourself. Go jump in the lake. This caller doesn't want Harrison to blast the ADL or criticize Israel. He wants him to condemn all Jewish people. There's no way Harrison doesn't understand this. And you see this response because this caller

is too direct about what he believes and he doesn't sound like an idiot or a raven lunatic. So it's not easy to just run circles around him. On top of that, Harrison has no idea what Galatians force says so he can't even engage with that part of the call. So he gets accused of not attacking Jewish people as a whole and he says that he's mean to the ADL in Israel which is meant to pivot the conversation away from the uncomfortable territory where he would lose this Nazi purity test, which for some reason

he doesn't want to do. I, yeah. His allegiances are very strange. It is. Yeah. Well, I would say it's unclear, but it's pretty clear. Yeah. A lot of this response, Harrison, is giving boils down to, I don't want to do this job anymore because people complain that I don't hate Jews enough when I feel like I'm doing a great job of it, which is a little strange. Harrison also gives up the game a little bit at the end there when he says, if you think I don't go far enough, why don't you start a show and do it, see how well it goes for you? This is kind of an admission that Harrison knows that his existence in the marketplace

relies on him going pretty far, but not past a certain line where he would no longer be palatable to potential new listeners. He's telling this guy essentially, I assure you we're pushing this as far as we can while still staying profitable. Yeah. Whoops. Yeah. I mean, it really is like, that is your criticism.

That is what you say to somebody. You're not going far enough. And then they say, I would like to have money and still be as far as I can go. Right. So here's where I am. Yeah. I have made that deal. And then they go, well, that deal corrupts you. And you go, Oh, yeah, that is exactly what it does. Why don't you go be pure about your Naziism and see how many radio stations you could be on. Meanwhile, fucking Harrison Smith shows not on any radio stations. I find it always fascinating whenever someone makes a perfect argument against their own existence

to someone else. Yep, you know? Yeah, and indicts themselves. Yeah, total, it's like, you fool, especially the more abusive they are about it and the more like a full of themselves they are about destroying their reason for existence. The better it is, yeah.

So we have one last big piece of news. Okay. And that is that Alex Jones, the man himself, the headliner, as it were. Sure. We've seen the riff-riff open micers. Oh boy. Yeah, the feature act. The backbench.

Uh huh. Yeah, yeah. And now we get the headliner, Alex Jones himself. All right. He was on Russian television. I don't know if you were aware of this I I still maintain as much as I can a complete unearness of what's going on in info Well, that's great because this interview is nuts. Okay, so Alex went on RT. No no, so

During after the 2016 election Alex famously went on with Alexander Dugan, right? He called him the greatest example of an American person and then Alex cried. Yeah, about how wonderful Russia thinks he is That was all fun. Sure, but now he's on with another propagandist dude named Vladimir Solovyev and he's I don't know if this is still on that in 2018, he started hosting a show called Moscow, Russia, Putin, where they would go over what Putin did that week. All the great accomplishments he'd done. Oh, man, it's a little comically, comically sick of Antigues. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's hard to believe. So he has a show and he's interviewing Alex now if people want to enjoy this There is a video that you can find of stuff that was edited out and it's him screaming at his staff Very much like Alex very much like you have push the button I've got Alex here. I can't hear him. Oh, it's his

staff. Yeah. Oh my God. That's amazing. And you can see Alex smiling and that is so funny. I wanted to play some of that because it is pretty funny. Yeah. But it's in Russian. So I can't really, it's, you know, imagine screaming in Russian and you go, ah, yeah, you can find that video and there's subtitles. And there is something enjoyable about that but there are points where it's kind of clear that there's like this is jumping a topic and that's usually places where things were cut out pretty substantially. So anyway, this dude is a giant

old Russian propagandist dude and here is where we begin with him talking to Alex. again with him talking to Alex. Very good morning to you. It's definitely. It was me here while we're still. It's good to be here while we're still alive and not dying in nuclear war. So real quick, Russian time is evening for Alex. Yeah. So you might be half in the bottle.

Yeah, it does. It does seem like we're already on nuclear war. But we're also a low register Alex drunk. That's true. That's true. It is a groggy drunk. Yeah. Yeah. Um, hard days night drunk. He does not see him fully there. Um, uh, but also this dude swears a lot, which is a little fun. That's fun. If I have to hear some kind of a shithead bigot Russian propaganda dude, I at least wanted to say of a shithead bigot Russian propaganda dude, I at least wanted to say fuck a few times.

I like a good. Yeah. And he can swear like an adult, not like Alex. That's good. So you might hear a little of that. All right. Well, you know, it's one of those things you can, you never know. You never know.

It can be a lost nuclear war. Right. And first, to whatever discussion about Cooke ears, you know, basically we'll live in hell. So finally, our job is to stop it coming or not for everyone, but you're doing it from your side, you're telling people what you believe in, and they are blamed for that. You've been canceled from where it ever platformed

the reason the United States, and they still cannot close you So what kind of forces in you? What kind of guts do you have that they can do shit with you? Well, I love our Republic and I'm proud to be an American, but I have to be honest I live in an occupied globalist country with corporate oligarchs like Plough Schwab and Bill Gates in control. And they are arresting everybody. They are dissolved our borders. They are annihilating us. And so America, Major Poleshow, 80-plus percentering against war with Russia. We know that George Soros and other star of the war nine years ago.

And the average America understands this is your back door, this is your homeland, this is where Russia started, it was in Ukraine. The average American is not with NATO, we are not with the globalist. Our Pentagon has captured, our country has captured. And yes, I'm facing death, assassination. My crew is, they're trying to put my co-host in prison next week, but I cannot back down at

this point. And I'm not saying the Russians are perfect. Nobody's perfect, but we standing in nuclear war and we stand against the Nazis that have launched the attacks in Ukraine. And so we have to tell the truth about what's happening even if it gets us killed because the globalists are insane, mentally degenerates, but Joe Biden doesn't even know who he is. And they are so used to wielding American power of the country they've hijacked, like hijackers that take over an airplane,

that they're flying the American airplane into the building like 9-11 that is Russia. And so I'm trying to stop that. That was a loyal American. That was a bit convoluted. Yeah, that was a difficult metaphor to land, if you will. They're hijacking, you know, like hijackers. Right.

That's a simile. And then 9-11, what is Alex? What's his stated position on 9-11 now? I was wondering the exact same thing. Yeah. How do we deal with 9-11 now? I can't deal with it through Alex because I don't actually know what he thing. Yeah. How do we deal with 9-11 now? I can't deal with it through Alex because I don't actually know what he believes.

No. No. I know that he doesn't believe the official story, but exactly which version of the conspiracy stuff he believes has changed so many times that I have no idea. We've been through a lot of different obvious reasons that this happened and a smoking gun

prove everything and then somehow are different the next time we hear about it. Yes, Alex pretty, pretty, he likes Russia a bit. And the average American, he speaks for them. I think one of my problems here and is going to be this for the rest of our time here. Growing up, because of the way we grow up in culture, in America, the Russians were always the bad guy. You know, that accent, that specific... Especially that Alex.

Yeah, yeah, that specific accent, though, is the bad guy in spy movies, that type of shit, you know? In wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, to hear the same like you will die Accents be used to like he was canceled like that The sticks are not the sticks are too low for that. I am worried about these people with the woke mind Exactly like no, you know, we can't do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that is that is hilarious

It is so trivial That is that is hilarious. It is so trivial James Bond you have been Alien coming to earth and it's like I have been shadow band What are we doing here get out of here come on now. Yeah, so nuclear war is hot on the mind sure But there might be a plus side to it. OK. I just want the Russian people to know, and just like you had all the garrison,

you were occupied for a few years after the fall of Southern Union, but you kicked them out. You are struggling in a death battle to remove the controllers of our country. And we just hope in that process that we don't all kill each other. But I understand the position rushes in. And so, you know, I'm very sad that we have nuclear war and, you know,

half the Russians die, but you already had that happen in World War II, or at least the 30-year people die. So there is nuclear war, at least it'll kill the globalist so we can all die together. I hope we can stop that, but I have a little solace that maybe God's going to work through us all. We all just kill each other. But we're so cool to it. I have to be very honest with you. It's an interesting God. Alex, you will and the bull. Might be part of where he's yelling and the long time passed that was like back 20 plus years ago. Yeah, little drop out there. He's talking about how he lived in Alabama at one point. He's for a period in his life.

That's part of what was dropped there. Right, so just for context for later. Oh, so that's why he's, that's why his English is very, it's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, I mean, like I said, he swore fantastically earlier. Yeah, it was smooth. Yeah, yeah mean like you like I said he swore Fantastically earlier. Yeah, it was smooth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah Alex is a worm This is ridiculous. Yeah, that's true. Oh, yeah, you had all a Garc problems

For a couple years. Oh boy. Also Alex doesn't even believe what he's saying I know the globalists have armored redouts and underground bases where they're gonna survive nuclear wars He knows that what the fuck is he talking about listen? I am just I just don't like the constant Number the number of people who live or die within the set future is the like a plaza meter. It's a mood ring It is a mood ring, you know? Like yeah, okay. Only a hundred people are like, oh, he's feeling really good today.

Yeah. Everybody's dead. Oh man, we're in for one of those Alex's. I'm going home early. Yeah, exactly. Like it's nuts. Yeah, but also one of the things you should keep track of, and you get a little bit of the sense of it here already,

is that Alex's vibe really kind of boils down to, like, please don't nuke me specifically. Yeah, he does. He's like, I am one of the good Americans. I can make peace with you. Many other good Americans. Please don't nuke me. It does feel like he's negotiating a treaty behind America's back. Yeah. He's violating the Logan Act. Yeah, absolutely. So this guy, when he was in Alabama, loved Rush Limbaugh, and so he brings that up. 20 plus years ago, and at this time, I loved listening to Rush Limbaugh show. Unfortunately, he passed away, but you remind me the best years of Rush Limbaugh with your tempo, with

your energy, and with your willingness to tell the true Russian limbo number five and unfortunately it looks like if 20 years ago Russia limbo was a D star. Nowadays they're so scared of you being this star. They're trying to change whatever is around you. But how comes what happened with states you're saying that your country has been hijacked. But how come that with great people of the United States, you allowed your country to be hijacked? How come that people that are good Christians, that are hardworking people, great nation?

How come that people like Blinken, Joe Biden, those guys that are not patriots? They don't love American Republic. It looks like they're much more interested in putting whatever taxpayer dollars they can for the benefit of the Ukraine to loan money through the Ukraine back to the families. But they're not patriots of the United States, what's ever happening in Europe is not for the increase of the United States, and there's only one person who is trying to tell that Trump.

And now they're killing Trump. They're just crucifying Trump. What happened with your country? How did you allow them to hijack your country? That's a great question. It was guilt. America's not perfect. Thank you. Not the hell. Guys, can you hear me now? There's problem. I cannot hear Alex. So this is where some of it really falls apart. And this is where some of the yelling and Russian happens. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's cut out of this version that we're off here, disappointing.

Yeah. Um, Alex is really given this guy a wide birth. Let him talk. That's, that's, that's, that's the Russian accent that I remember from my, you know, like that is, that is somebody who's, who's, uh, captured, you know, and they're getting interrogated and then the, then the guy who's going in there to kind of brainwash him shows up. That's totally it.

That's perfect. In movies for sure, but in real life, I find his accent pretty calming. No, I enjoy it. Yeah, I get it. That's what I'm saying. You know, making fun of the limbo, it's a little bit of low hanging fruit, but overall,

I do find his voice pleasant. That's what I'm saying. You're, you're tortured by the other guy, but this guy comes in and he's like, oh, you're not, this isn't for you. You're not, you're being tortured because they're treating you like a real patriot, not the government, you know, like that's the guy. I see, I see. I missed the point you were making. Yeah.

No, love it. So the audio problem resolves and Alex gets back to his idea about guilt. Ah, guys, you hear me now? There's a problem, I cannot hear Alex. Yeah, finally, yeah, I have something. I can hear you hear me. Excellent. Yeah, now there's, yeah, probably say it was trying to do something that not to allow us

to continue our conversation, but we succeeded. So go ahead. Congrats. That's fine. Well, I'm not trying to be dramatic, but I literally got followed from my house to here. I'll be following home tonight. I know it's the morning in Russia. This is very serious.

I mean, come on. And I get, we all laugh about it, I do, too. But this is very serious. Well, what happened is Americans have big hearts. And so by big corporate investment in media and in universities and in culture, we were taught we were bad. And then we were taken over by globalist, woke, leftist, transgenderism, LGBTQP, Satan brainwashing, and we've been under massive bullying, massive

censorship, massive control that's been going on for decades. The woke up bullies. So I want to be totally clear about this. Alex's answer to that question of what happened to make the United States bad is civil rights. He can dress it up in whatever grandiose bullshit language he wants, but his answer is that the US is worse because civil rights organizations bullied straight white Christian men into giving up their exclusive grasp on power. That's what he's saying. Yeah, the part about guilt is him saying that history shouldn't be taught, or if it is things like slavery should be taught as a positive or neutral thing. If you're gonna teach about the history of slavery in America, the thesis of your lesson needs to be the other people had slaves too, so we were really wrong to do it. This is Alex's ideology. He comes from a fucking nut-bagged John Birch society family where he was inundated with books written by anti-communist weirdos that attack civil rights by presenting the idea of black people being able to eat at the same restaurant as white people as a critical step and turning the US into a godless communist hellhole.

And Alex has never grown up. He's never seriously examined those beliefs because why the fuck would he? He got on public access TV pretty young and really quickly his dad paid for him to get a radio show. After that he got discovered by a shady, scammy, gold salesman who used Alex as the primary advertisement for his precious metal sales. That whole time, he had success, comfort, and relative celebrity, so there's literally no reason to change anything.

Interrogating your beliefs to see if they're actually correct is a liability for someone like Alex. You're going to lose money going down that road. By the time the Gold Sales sugar daddy situation went away, Alex was already 41 years old and he had his next big thing in the supplements It was already in motion. There's never been a point in his life where he's had any reason to doubt himself And the reality that doubting himself and his ideas that could cost him millions of dollars No one needs someone with this particular skill set of lying very loudly for a long period of time in any other media space. There, like the left doesn't need it,

the other, the mainstream media doesn't need it. The only people that Cater's to is exactly his audience. Without this, he's essentially unemployable. And he knows that. So I keep your head down and follow the path that looks lucrative and that's what he's done. He's never had to, you know, yeah. This is exactly the opposite of what I mean,

but I just remembered that quote from Blade Trinity. He was born perfect, and just like a great white shark, he's never had to evolve. Right, right, right, right, right. I recall, I was talking about Dracula, yeah. Alex is like that, but the opposite. I was, no, I'm thinking this because I am apologized for bringing up tennis.

But Carlos Alcaraf is, you know, like when you watch Joke of it, or a federal or those guys play against the next generation, you see that they are not having fun because they've been beaten over and over and over and over and over again. You know, they've just been beaten so much. Right. But Carlos grew up and he was the best of tennis. And then he just kept being the best of tennis and now he's the best of tennis.

He's so happy. He's smiling all the time. You know, he's never faced the reality of like just constant shit being poured upon you. And though the may common years. Yeah. And Alex has got something of that like, if you create a lane for this person

and everything kind of just hits right at the right time. And you've never really had a existential challenge outside of things that you've done to yourself. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You brought up next generation. So I want to apologize for forgetting about Jordy LaForge when we were talking about Star Trek.

Talking about Star Trek, yeah. And also you blew it and I went along with you. Whoopi was not in deep space nine. She was in the next generation. Really? Oh man, I am terrible. Yep. Yep.

So Alex is ashamed of America. Weird, yeah. So I'm very ashamed that we've gotten to this point and that's why whether it's British TV or Japanese TV or Russian television I go on to explain this is not the real American you know you talk about Halibi survived They they saw me in 2016 it was it was it was it was 40 million viewers so many viewers so important to let us so that big Exhale is reflective of the tech problems that have been cut out And and for a period of time he's looking at like his phone and a tablet because he then yells

Why do I have to watch our show on the stream to hear Alex and he looks very distracted? So that's a that's a reason to go watch that video of this is an enjoyable experience. And man, it starts a little slow with some feeling out. When this breaks open, it gets nuts. And I really think that this guy is trying to lure Alex to come to Russia. Great. It's time. It's the only way to keep his money. I think for nefarious purposes. Well, there's that too. So, like I said, there's tech issues and they kind of loom in the background of a lot of this. But I love Tucker Carlson because now

a hundred million viewers per show versus five million on Fox. So even though they're trying to destroy me, I could take major satisfaction that RFK Jr. and Russell Brand and Joe Rogan, and there's a major awakening happening. Sorry, boss. Sometimes I have to raise hell. You know, it's one of my things. My crew is good too.

I get mad at them. Go ahead, go ahead. And softly trying to fix things. Now, and usually that work. You usually that works. Now, my crew is the same. They're laughing. Now, but it's good that you're translating. It's hard to do. Thank you. Yeah. So there is a, like, there was a bitty yelling this cut out there. But like, there was a part of me when I was watching this, like Alex is so giddy when he's yelling at the crew. And it's like, obviously,

I know that Alex is somebody who likes to abuse underlings and he exerts power in an abusive fashion. Yeah. There's a small part of me that wonders if the tech problems were fake. And it was a way of enduring himself to Alex. Alex sees himself in this breakdown that this guy is having. Obviously. Sure. And it's deeply unprofessional the way he's acting in the same way. It's deeply unprofessional. When Alex screams at his employees, well, you know, he doesn't storm off though. I'll give him that. You would have to watch more of his show. He might. No, I mean, he might, yeah, he might do this all of the time, or he might not.

Oh, I thought you meant he, the Russian guy, would have to watch Alex's show to show. No, no, no, no, he does this a lot. Right. No, you would, yeah, he might watch Alex's show, but in order for you to know what he was doing, you would have to watch more of his show. If you understand that Alex is a narcissist sure He would love to see himself in a mirror You know like you would love to see himself in you Yeah, and if you behave in ways that are similar to him

He'll be like this guy's great. Yeah, I mean, but I don't I that's a little bit conspiratorial and Paranoid of me it was just a thought that crossed my mind as I was watching this sure I understand but we're talking about the land of siops, my man. That's how it goes. Maybe they had a team of psychologists working on Alex being like, how do we get this guy? This is a dude who hosted a show, talked about Putin's achievements once a week.

Yeah. This is not somebody who has like a straight up career, you know? Nope. So anyway, there's some more tech problems of a different variety. Well Alex, it's, you know, basically it's amazing. I used to live in the United States of America and that time that was the most free country in the world where people respected freedom of speech. And this time there were a whole bunch of good families, good Christians, they every Sunday they were going to church and they believed that God loves America and they believed that their job is to bring good to the world and freedom to people.

Thirty years later, in the United States of America, you cannot say shit. If you say something that you believe in, you have a problem with that. If you do something that they don't like, they're gonna kill you, they're gonna destroy you, they're gonna destroy you reputation. They will do whatever they can to silence you. And now you have Jov Dem Biden, the guy who is crooked, the guy whose family is benefiting from the blood in Europe. That's man, that's amazing.

I really feel sorry for you, and now they want us to fight one another. We are here. For Nazis, and those funny guys with red shirts, could they allow they Ukrainian supporters and... Me, it doesn't say word about. This is fascinating. This is marching on the streets of United States of America. Yikes. Is this a pirate signal?

Like what is happening? I don't know. Are they are they in the matrix trying to hack into the feed in every second when he said Like put Biden is profiting from the blood in Ukraine and then the music started again I thought it was like a morning zoo sound effect. I thought the same Yeah, yeah, no, I was like, oh this like a fun? And then it just keeps getting more terrible. It is. Yeah. I was watching this and I'm like, hmm, should have cut out more. Yeah. Yeah. It's a sloppy. Okay. So Alex is just like so, like endearing himself and being like, oh, I know Russia is so great. Yeah. So great.

You guys only had all the garks for a few years. Everything is so good. Totally. So cool. You definitely don't have all the garks now. No, I definitely don't have all the garks. Situation is desperate. It is, I've held on because I have millions of supporters,

but it's absolutely hell. That's cool. They have just, I don't get into it, but just imagine it's been hellish and it's only gods kept me alive. But things are coming to ahead. That's why I'm here to tell the Russian people we know you're not expansionist. We know you're not attacking us. The average American poll show any person don't war with you. And you and we are we are sorry our country's been hijacked and it's being used as a battering

ram and we know rush is not perfect either i'm not i've never been to run no one is perfect no one's perfect man so yeah they're not expansionist except for the expanding uh... ending coaching on their neighbors so there's that they're not attacking us which i guess is fine and then uh... eighty percent of people might not want war but that is not reflective of uh... eighty percent of the population supporting rushes x yeah you know

the way these people these two are talking about that you know that it's it's kind of the way we all talk about it and it's infecting us in a really terrible way of just like, but, Resha's not expansionist. Putin is stealing more shit. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, nobody who lives there is like, man, I want Keeve for my own,

because I live in Moscow. We make that point a lot. And I can't, that there is that differentiation between the country and the government. They don't want that. Well, they don't Alex and and this guy do not want the differentiation. I think they do sort of. I think they kind of do because Alex is saying like our government isn't like taken over by the globalists.

So America, the government evil, America, the people good. Russia, the people good, put in the government good. Right. That's kind of the, the, um, the lineup. Right. Right. I understand. I understand.

I'm just, I'm just frustrated by this idea because it is so much like, oh, what's wrong with the American people? And what's wrong with all this stuff? And it's like, man, most of us, almost all of us are just fucking getting through the day. We're just trying to get by. And these people are starting wars and shit. I didn't, nobody did. Right, but you- We're not around. But at least you're not like Alex and like constantly obsessing about nuclear war And how maybe it's a good thing totally. I mean it is it is just so insane that we're we're stuck in this concept of like a

Oh the United States like most of us hate everything about this all of this yeah, or at least desire a better way Yeah, yeah, this is absurd. So if you hate that that stuff Wait for this next Oh boy, this is absurd. So if you hate that stuff, wait for this next, oh boy. This Russian guy, this Vladimir character, not a fan of gay people. That's not the way. We're not pro-Russia, we're not pro-America, we're pro-God. And we're pro-Anti- I love that.

I love that. But for that, they have to believe in God. They don't believe in God. How can they believe in God? And before LGBTQ plus minus, they why don't something? LGBT is shit, it has nothing to do with God. But now that they say that when you God is pervert,

that's not what we believe in. Well, that's it, exactly. Whoa, so that's a bit harsh, a little blunt, a little gross. Yeah. So LGBTQ is pervert, and then Alex Chimes in from the back. Patophile. Yeah. I mean, it is illegal in Russia. Well, no, I mean, yeah, fine. I mean, I mean, what did you think he was going to think? Right. You know, like, I'm offended by what he's saying, but it's not like I was, I'm surprised.

No, no, I guess it's more the like, like bluntness of it, and then Alex's like, hell yeah, man. I guess it's not really surprising for Alex to have that position either, except for that it's just like, there's such an erosion of his pretending to be okay with gay people. Yeah, yeah. And Yeah, you know. And then, you know. Yeah, the reason-

It's just sad. You know, it's like the reason that it's so awful is because it's a portent of, you know, how fake the support is. Of any variety of civil rights. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if the Ayatollah is like, hey, fucking, we kill gay people here, you go, yeah, you guys do that. That's all you. You really shouldn't. I'd rather you didn't. Yeah. But yeah, then if the IA tola had a radio host, you would

expect those positions to be mirrored. Exactly. So Alex, he just admires Putin. He's a good dude. He kicked out the globalists. And that's what I'm saying. This is not me. This is not America. We are hijacked. And I know Russia has the Soros foundations. You're under the exact same attack. You've just been better at fighting it off. And so a lot of Americans admire Russia, and admire you, and admire Putin, because you've been able to fight this off. And so that's where we are. And I know they'll come at you for this. So be it because that's just the way it is.

But I just hope we can stop nuclear war. And I hope that we can come together and promote a global freedom, free market, Christian society, and then you've got beautiful resources. We've got amazing resources. I mean, it's so smart for us to work together. Exactly.

We have a big space. We work together. We have a beautiful job. Yeah. It's smarter for neither of us to exist. Hey, you know what? Why don't we fuck these globalists? Let's have a global Christian society.

I mean, yeah, that's... We don't want to live under the same one-world government. We want to live under the same one-world Theocratic government. That it prefers our size. Yeah, exactly. Jesus. A little bit obvious there. Yeah.

So look, man, we got, when you think of popular shows, sure, the most popular shows, Johnny Carson. No, although at a time. Yeah. Russell Brand. What? Tucker. Oh, okay.

So we're doing that. Alex, we're doing that. Okay. Now, I would suggest that Alex would really check into some of the like new hot folks on tiktok and YouTube and see how their numbers are so much bigger than any of these other fucking political weirdos yeah because like you see some of these people like oh my god hundred million views of what the fuck is going who is this oh no it's it

is always fun whenever I find out that there's an entire different species of human living in a completely different world. And I'm like, what? There's trillions of you out there? It's like someone in a tricorder hat blowing on a piece of baloney dangling in front of their face and it's like 200 million views. All right. Okay. I don't get it. That's what the people do these days. They left me behind and I didn't want to come with them. That's the reality. I would say that like the vast majority of just various true crime channels on YouTube

have more views than Alex. But anyway, all the popular shows they love Russia. I want Russians to know the most popular shows, as I said, not just mine, all the popular shows are anti-war and are pro-freedom. They're pro-America, they're pro-Russia, they're pro-human. And I want you to know that the American people do not want this, but our political class is losing, they're dying, they're falling apart, and they admit their plan is not just a new COVID lockdown. Their plan is not just imploded borders.

Their plan is accelerated war with Russia. So, I am very pissed off. Sure. And my children, I got four, I'm don't deserve to die. And if the Russians were doing something to me, I'd be ready to go to war. Sure. But like, I would say, by the way, you're great. I find you a fool. Yeah, you got it.

I mean, the Russians are not, I've studied the geopolitics. They accused me of being a Russian agent. I've never been to Russia. I have nothing to do with Russia. I think Alex just compared Russia to Jesus. I find no fault. Yeah. And I think he was quoting Russia to Jesus. I find no fault. And I think he was quoting Pontius Pilate.

Well, you know, we've got a lot of Bible today. Might as well get that one in there too. Sure. Yeah. So look, I mean, obviously we don't want nukes and stuff, whatever. This is trite. But like, okay, so there's a transactional relationship

that's going on here, despite whatever is actually being said and the clunky conversation that's being had. Sure. And the transaction is, Alex comes on and provides the image that America loves Russia and that like Russia is great, they're not expansionist and everybody knows it, the whole world. And then this guy fucking just blows smoke up Alex's ass. Yeah. And treat him like he is the greatest American ever.

Right. Essentially the exact same transaction that went on in the 2016 interview with Alexander Dugan. Yes. It's the same. And here's the payoff for Alex. I'm an agent of life. An agent of freedom, an agent of

shield, having a future. And I will not let these globalists that have hijacked our country, they're the enemy, point at Russia and say, oh, they did this. Russia didn't open our border. Russia didn't ship in fentanyl. Russia doesn't engage in pedophilia. Russia isn't pushing World War III. Russia isn't promoting drag queen pedophile time. And so all I'm saying is, I don't know about the Russians, but the Russians didn't do this. The globalists that hijacked my country did it. And I'm not going to go to nuclear war with the Russians so they can stay in power. It's real simple. Okay, there is voice of

American people, Alex Jones, there is voice of American people. He's the voice of the American people. Oh, man. It's just so easy. It is. It's just so easy. Yep. Yep. I mean, it's just it's it's pretty transparent when you're watching it. Yeah, and I you get the sense that both of them kind of know it too. Almost, or I, if not consciously, he know the Russian dude knows for sure. Oh, yeah, 100%. But Alex, you know, it's an open question of how where he is of the game he's involved in at the moment.

It is, I think there's, I think there's more, there's plenty of column and column B, you know, like, I know you're flattering me, you know what I like getting flattered. Yeah. Yeah. It's like those people who flirt incessantly and never intend to have that. Yeah. Yeah.

Fuck is wrong with you. It's weird. Stop it. Yeah, it's just fun. No. No. Stop it. I live your life.

It's fine, but I'm confused by it. That's all fair enough. Anyway, this now that the payoff has come and he has declared the voice of the American people, it's time to extend an invitation. All right. And I'm strong enough by the grace of God and my supporters to be holding up like a lighthouse in a storm, but I don't plan I'll be here tomorrow. I mean, they are coming down on us right now. It's like they're coming down on you. And so God help us. You know, I feel like nowadays Russia is becoming the arch, the noise arch, like the

only place where people like you can go, not because they love Russia, but because it's probably the last safe heaven where people with conservative views, people that believe in God, can live freely. Because it's amazing what they've done with this world. They're basically trying to ruin human race as such. They're trying to say, man, that he's not a longer man. Woman, that she's not a longer woman. Transgender, what the fuck is friends gender? How's the word friends gender and how they can have kids?

If they don't want to have kids, they don't want to Assault it's an assault it's an assault on our basic humanity and you're right Say whatever you want about the Russians now try to step into the anthropology the sociology at least the Russians aren't rolling over to this So you have him introducing this premise that, you know, hey, Russia is the only place where someone like you can live freely. I and so this has been introduced into the conversation. Alex is not necessarily bit or anything, but he's, you know, it's there. So I had now, I truly believe that I should get like a free kick of some sort. Just because, like, there's a penalty

that has to be incurred because the most jingoistic people that I grew up with are now only welcome in Russia. I find, it's just unacceptable. Well, yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's like five yards, I get a free kick, something. Well, Alex's entire worldview from childhood has been built on this anti-communist extremism. No, and I mean China obviously is a factor in that too, but so the union Russia were

the other main target of that and yeah, now, nope, not so much. I just It's frustrating. I feel like everybody should stop. When a penalty happens, there's a stoppage of play. I feel like we should all stop play. We figured this all out. Everybody. The most jingoistic people now think they're, okay in Russia, we gotta figure something out. Something's up here.

Something's up. Yeah. So these guys are real homophobic, real transphobic, real shit heads. But you gotta admit, they're hitting it off. They are. And maybe that's a, maybe there's things are related. They're enjoying themselves.

This isn't a game. And that's why I'll present the same. Sorry, guys, but it won't be game marriages in Russia. We don't care what you do in your bedroom, but we know what families You care a little father and mother not parents number one and parents number two We want to allow that that's not in our culture you can do whatever you want with your culture But that's on our culture and that's what I know about America I remember what America let me tell you. We heard and we heard 10 years ago just give us a marriage.

And I'm the same way I'm like, whatever you do, I don't hate you. And then it's like, give us your children. Let us chop your children's testicles off. Let us puberty block them. I'm telling you, it's a devil cult. It's it's

absolutely. Am I sick? It's absolutely. That's not yeah, absolutely right. That's not about politics. That's not, you're absolutely right. That's not about politics. That's about existence of humanity as such. That's not the war between Russia and America. It's the war between God and satanism. I'm going to say this.

I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. I'm not an American. Cool. I don't want nuclear war. And I love Russia. I love Japan, I love China, I love Mexico, I love everybody. But I am a human's worst before God.

And I cannot go against humanity in the family. And that's why I have to come here and say, I'm embarrassed, I have to admit, my country's captured and they're persecuting us for fighting them. You know the whole long we can hold on. It's really bad. That's why I'm really concerned because this is real. People need to know you already have people dying in this war.

You have to understand it's intense. This is not a game. This is something on television. It is literally on television. Alex is two for two and tearing up with interviews with Russian propagandists calling him the voice of American people. Oh my god. What a dork.

So, um, look, these guys suck. I mean, there's no other word for what just happened. What just happened is shit. But these are things that we've heard before too. Yeah. Yeah. It's just this kind of conversation is far more frequent. The idea that all rights being afforded to gay couples is it is a path and it chipping away towards Satanism.

And if I acknowledge, if I acknowledge us as both human, then my entire world view falls apart So it's either it's either essentially I kill you or I change and I am such a piece of shit I'm going to kill you instead of go. That's fine And these are two people who represent slightly different stages down that path towards being like I find kill them Yeah, yeah, 100%. And that's very, very scary as a conversation to be had in public.

Yep. But this guy really wants Alex to come to Russia. Yeah, I just feel like, again, I mean, I feel like we understand free speech, but like the telling another human being that they're not a human being is the beginning of the all of our problem. You know?

Like there's something about that. Maybe not all of our problems, but a whole lot of them. A whole fuck ton of them begins whenever it's like, yes, I recognize myself as human and you not. And that begins with words. True. And there's something that can be done about that. That it isn't just like, let them call anybody whatever the fuck they want

I think I think what you're saying and I Some what agrees we need a more mature Understanding of speech. Yeah, maybe maybe not necessarily like Laws that govern what you can and can't say yeah, but a very serious Reexamination as people what we are fine with. Yeah. And what should make you immediately like not to be taken seriously. Yeah. Like what marks people as like, no, you're a shithead. Yeah. No, that concept, you know, that idea of like we need to completely abolish the concept

of sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never, because that, or we need to add like a shitton of like, but words can set into a motion, a series of events so large and so uncontrollable that it affects not just you, but everyone around you. The problem is that the utility of sticks and stones may break my bones is to make children feel better.

Exactly. And the children are not mature enough to understand the addendum that you add in. is that the utility of sticks and stones may break my bones is to make children feel better. Exactly. And the children are not mature enough to understand the adendum that you added. And then they grow up and they don't become adults, they just continue to say sticks and stones. They say it in presidential debates. Well, they're children. That's it.

But Alex probably needs to go to Russia. And what they do is, because I've never been to Russia. I've read books about Russia, read history, looks amazing. I want to go there sometime, but I'm not a roos of file. I'm not a roos of hope. But it's so insulting. The roos of fuck for eight years since Trump was running. And then one seven years ago, or six six years ago to literally be told I'm commanded

by the Russians and I'm even orders by the Russians but here I am. I'm like well okay if I'm supposedly run by these people I better go ahead and find out who they are. No I'm run by honor and truth and justice and saving my country but I do now I, I'll be honest with you. I wanna go to Russia. I wanna meet the Russians. I wanna find out why that my enemies hate them so much. I wanna find out. Alex, you might be the best. I'm a student.

Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best.

Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be the best. Alex, you might be my guest. He can stay as long as you want. Whatever you want, you'll have it. But I mean, you understand, I appreciate that. You understand my point. I'm not like, I'm just an American and I'm like promoting not having open borders. I'm promoting penifilia, promoting freedom. And I'm told I'm run by Russians. Well, you start wondering, is this it runs me? You start like wondering who are so I'm asking

Why do they hate me and hate you so much? Because we believe in God Exactly exactly exactly this guy's got to be thinking Alex is a fucking. I mean so stupid He's got to be thinking that Alex is the dumbest person he's ever talked to I would assume so like that's crazy All right, if Alex goes to Russia, the documentary we make call it citizen 14 words. Okay. Yeah, that's all right. The guy who's a sort of state-connected media figure seems like it who's saying, you can come live at my house for as long as you want whatever you want want you will have it.

Yeah. My studio is your studio. That's the kind of thing that Alex would find suspicious coming from, let's say somebody who works for the Rockefellers or. Yeah. That is a comically luring kind of offer bananas. Yeah. I mean, bananas. Truly to be a person who is constantly claiming that there is a secret reason for everything

to then take this, a man who sounds like the movie villains from your childhood and just be like, man, straight shooter, you. Those movies weren't real. I know they weren't real. Alex somehow doesn't know they weren't real and is still this guy. Now to be clear with the thing that I'm suggesting or what I am looking at this interview as, I don't necessarily think like there's some kind of a state plan to flip Alex or something

like that. But I think that this guy is savvy enough to understand that there is a lot of value in Alex disseminating the talking points that he disseminates on behalf of Moscow, Russia, Putin, the weekly Putin praise show. Yeah. Yeah. You know, yeah, that's a pretty obvious. Yep. Anyway, Trump, very suspect. I don't, I don't even know how to tell you about this clip, but I will say that it involves Alex saying that Trump wants to make babies with Russia. Okay, which is strange. That is strange, but okay. They are coming after him.

They're coming after me. They're coming at your Trump because Trump, let's talk about Trump. I know Trump well. Trump is a very transactional person. Which is cool. So he looks at Russia three times the size of the US, the most wealthy country in the world resource-wise.

And he sees a big, beautiful thing. And he's like, I'm gonna deal with these people. Like when he went to talk to North Korean later, he said, you could put each houses here in hotels and casinos. And I mean, he just looks at something transactional and says, this is a big giant rich country. That's a hard republic.

I don't know how to say this. It's like a operate. He sees as a woman. I mean, I don't have Trump operates. He sees Russia as a gorgeous, beautiful woman he wants to be with. He's like, we're not going to fight these people. Let's get in business. And the CIA goes, no, no, no, no, no, you're not getting in business with her. We're going to kill her and eat her. And so they're terrible. Trump wants to have children with Russia. Right. The globalists want to eat Russia and they want to eat me. Right. Wanna eat me. Right. Okay. Yeah. So Trump wants to uh fuck St.

Petersburg. Right. Right. Right. I mean, yeah, I suppose, I suppose then we, then we're just getting into the anatomy of cities, meetings in Russia. What, what civic unit do you think, what is the smallest civic unit that is capable of gestation? A hamlet? A hamlet? A hamlet? A hamlet?

You know, I think, I think a small unit is what it takes to get gestation. No, man. I think you need to be, uh, uh, damn it. What's his name? The big unit, Randy Johnson. Johnson, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Randy Johnson. Fuck. Yeah. Come up with the most generic last name. Couldn't come up with, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's probably like eight or nine on the most common last names. That's that clip though. I mean, there's a lot of nonsense in there. Like for pound for pound, pretty solid. A lot of Trump wants to fuck Russia, wants to make babies with it. Right. He saw a Korean North Korea is being like a lot of places to exploit here.

Like make a hotel over there. Yeah, that one's crazy. Korean and North Korea is being like a lot of places to exploit here. I can break it. Make a hotel over there. Yeah, that one's crazy. That one's crazy. But I think here's what it is that I'm going to pitch. I'm going to pitch to you that's that is the amplifier out of nowhere. We're eating people. Mm-hmm.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, once once we added eating people now everything else in that clip is also amplified because sure He wants to make babies with Russia, but maybe people want to eat those babies and we can't trust Trump completely No, that's true. It's vaccine and I think I think we really have to take a little moment to reflect on how eating someone is the opposite of Making a baby with them, because it's a hishin versus subtraction, you know, it is perhaps the polar opposite of making a baby with somebody is eating them. Because if you kill someone, yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. Totally. But also if you kiss somebody. Their body is still there. If you write them their body, it's a, it goes from one to zero.

Right. And not just that, but if you make a baby with someone, they expel it from them. Whereas you're ingesting the, the, you have accidentally stumbled onto something. I don't know why that this turns out to be the, the poles that we discover. You know, it's probably because because this kind of discovered the North. Stupid. That's fair. So we have one last clip here and it's the it's a little bit of course the dismount. Alex, of course, once again invokes Tucker and has some parting words for this guy who

is clearly playing some games with him. Because we're men. Because we're men and because we're fathers and because we're sons and because we understand that there's high responsibility than being loyal to those motherfuckers. And that responsibility is with God. Right. Well, that's right. And that's why I came on your show and threw it on the gala. They're going to come after me. So hard after this. Like you said, Tucker Carlson's a dead man walking. I talked him two days ago. He knows it. He's going all in. So I'm all in. You're all in for humanity and for humanity and fatherhood and motherhood. And we just got to say, hey, listen, globalist,

we're calling your bluff, man. Hey, you glumas. And you know, they blow my ass away next week or indict me next week, and they're trying, it'll make us bigger, because I'm not going to cry when they do it. But we've got to be ready to do it, because this is it, folks.

Everything you are, everything you ever were, if you don't stand up now, you're done. Done. Nice. The perfect night in a shining armor. Alex Jones fighting for God. Oh my God. And for what he believes in Alex.

It was a pleasure and they monitor. Thank you. I can find this as we're both inside info war calm. Oh, yeah, man, a shining night, the perfect night and shining armor, fighting for what he believes. It was an honor, Alex. Anybody who seriously and sincerely says it was an honor, Alex is an idiot or is fucking with him. There is nobody who would be honored to talk to that ding dong. You know, that this one really hammers home.

What Sophie was talking about where they want you to think they're telling you the truth. You know, like that was such a, everything about that bullshit. You don't believe you're doing this for God. Why am I stopping and being like, why would you believe you're doing this for God? No, you don't believe that.

Come on. It's credibility to even imagine that between the two of them, Why would you believe you're doing this for God? No, you don't believe that Credulity to even imagine that between the two of them they believe what the other is say It's just it's a fascinating exercise in deceit and lying and No trust. Yeah, yeah, I mean Because there's there's the game of Alex lying to him and believing that he that he knows that Alex is playing a character, right? And then there's him lying to Alex, but he knows that Alex doesn't know what he's doing. Or the shared reality that the two of them are trying to create

out of both of these false hits. I think there's a possibility that he thinks that Alex might be aware of a little, but definitely not the full scope. There's like, there's like, there's one full awareness and one like one side has like, uh, Alex knows he's full of shit. Right. The other guy knows he's full of shit. Right. The other guy knows he's full of shit. I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. I believe and I'm going to base this on purely the feeling I have right now.

Okay. I believe that there is a certain tone of voice that you can detect when you're getting one over on someone. And I know that last clip. It's a tone. There's a sound. I think there's, you know, I think I think there's a frequency that no matter what, if you're getting one over on someone, you make that sound.

And when you, when you call Alex fucking Jones a perfect night and shining armor. Oh my god, you're getting one over on somebody. Yeah. That's not the act of a legit person. Yeah. Yeah. So there is a certain guy we need, Jordan, we should point out, I don't know if our voices are going to sound a little bit different, but we were mocking the tech difficulties that they had. And then in the middle of it, our record or stuff working. Yeah, that was, it was blockers. So these blockers played a joke on us. And I appreciate it.

Well played. Well played, you know, for me, we were recorded during the US Open and it was like the moment we were so close to the dismount. Nope. I was trying so close to the dismount. Nope. I was trying so hard to, to like, I called the day and let you get some of that, some of the US open in and now, hey, it is way back for making fun of their tech issues. I think it probably is.

We had humorous, humorous as Alex would pronounce it. I will say that though we deserve it, we distinguish ourselves by not screaming at someone for some reason. The fuck. Right. Right. Right.

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