Knowledge Fight - #85: September 20-21, 2017

Episode Date: September 22, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on The Alex Jones Show on September 20-21. Topics include: Alex using Jimmy Kimmel's son as a prop to attack Jimmy for using his own son as a prop Larry Nichols literally tries to blackmail Congress on air Alex and a non-doctor think mental health is a conspiracy Alex has feelings about pornography

Andy and Chanzos, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. And according to our last episode, we're done with bits.

We are fucking so over bits. So over bits. You know how we're in a post-literal... Truth world? That's it. Yeah. We're in a post-bit podcast now. Yeah, yeah. Exactly.

None. None. And then the end of the podcast. I love you. Do you remember that Shaq song, No Hooks? No. It's like that, but with bits. Wait, Shaquille O'Neal song? Yeah, he had a great song.

Why would I remember a Shaq song? Well, he had a couple of great songs with them. No, he didn't. No, No Hooks was with the RZA and the JIZZA. It was a great song. All right. Maybe it is. Shaq is a... Anyways.

Shaq is a surprisingly competent rapper. You know a lot about Shaq. I do. And I don't know anything about Shaq. And the same relationship holds true of Alex Jones. Exactly. Today we are drinking a surprisingly salty kickstart. By Mountain Dew.

It's the Code Red of Black Cherry, I guess is what we're talking about here. You were saying you were surprised by how salty it is. It is very salty. So that will be sort of an epithent. Yeah. The surprisingly salty kickstart. Surprisingly salty kickstart. Today, Jordan, we will be going over some of the incidents that happened on the episodes

of the Alex Jones show on September 20th and 21st. All right. Of 2017. There's a lot of wild stuff to cover. There's a lot of insanity. Oh, actually, let me do this. I forgot to do it. Before we get started, let's give a shout out to our new donor.

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So now down to business. Down to, let's get down to business. Or to defeat. Or you just made me think. The Huns. That's a terrible way to do this. Did they send me daughters when I asked for sons? See, I would have gone with Barry Manilow.

You're the saddest bunch. I swear to God, I will do that whole fucking song. I don't want you to do that. I know. I just want to talk about Barry Manilow. I know. Let's get on with it. That's all we're going to do from now on.

Just various songs about how we need to get to the point. Exactly. Well, it's never getting to the point. Exactly. Let's get to the point. In honor of Alex Jones, we will never actually deal with Alex Jones today. Let's not deal with Alex Jones in this first clip. Let's deal with Pornow.

God, your transitions are incredible. All right. You missed it. Alex Jones is talking Pornow in this next clip. How is that possible? He got the spirit in him. We're starting here on September 20th and he had this to say. Whatever he has to say is bullshit.

That man watches so much porn. Right. You can't. His browser history is the grossest thing that you will ever hear. And I'm not judging. Me either. But at the same time, you'll be interested to hear that his thoughts on pornography dovetail interestingly into white nationalism.

U.S. teens slower to drink. You think that's good, right? Pussy. You have sex than previous generation study finds. A lot of Christian conservatives are like, oh, that's great. You know, they're being more, more lordly. Lordly. They're not.

They're watching hardcore porn. They're taking drugs, hardcore drugs, and they are not hanging out with real people, and they're not having babies. And the birth rates imploding in the West is the white nationalist. Because everybody does simulated sex now. Simulated sex. If you're like to look at a 1960s playboy and it's a beautiful woman and you just admire her scantily clad, that actually excites you more about your wife.

But it's not a woman degraded with 20 guys. You stupid motherfucker. Like they're a beef tenderizer. Beef. That dehumanizes the woman, that dehumanizes the men, and every study shows it. And I'm not up here on some Puritan high horse telling you, you look at those naked pictures, you're going to go blind, and the devil's going to get your soul, boy. What I'm telling you is, it's declassified that this was all pushed and legalized to

end the family, to end reproduction, and to end the enjoyment of sex. Everything. Why would you need to classify that? Everything has been declassified at some point. Yeah. Because Alex is just making up everything. Yeah, exactly. It's wild to me.

It's just like, well, peanuts are high in cholesterol. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. I got it. Has he ever confirmed that crack was created by Ronald Reagan to destroy the black community? I'm probably, he talks about freeway Rick Ross every now and again. There we go. So that's the way to do it.

It's declassified. Sure. It means Rick Ross got out of prison. This is so fucking stupid. What are you talking about? I hate people. I actually, I mean, I think he's right on one level in that, in that like, I think so. In that it dehumanizes women.

Yeah. I think that there is something to be said for that, but at the same time. I don't disagree with you there. But at the same time, there are some people who are into those more extreme things, both men and women, and there's nothing wrong with exploring those parts of yourself. So I mean, there is a, there is a legitimate concern in terms of burning out neural pathways in your brain and stuff like that. Right.

But at the same time, hey man, let's be sex positive about shit. Whatever you want to do, go do it. I always suspect, especially with this kind of bullshit narrative that they peddle, I always suspect that what we're really dealing with is the older generation completely incapable of dealing with the speed of technology. Well, there's that, there's part, that's part of it too, but also the speed with which like culture changes from something really uptight to something more permissive. Right.

And it's just, it's terrifying to them. And it's also, I think the older generation having a, I wouldn't call it a stiff upper lip kind of mentality, but like, you know, back in the day, people wouldn't even admit that they masturbated. Right. Exactly. You know, so I think women didn't, women didn't admit they masturbated until like 20 minutes ago.

Yeah. What time is it? Exactly. So yeah. The big problem that I have with porn is that people do not understand or recognize the history of it. So ever. I don't know why you can read because of porn.

Interesting. That's the main reason that you can read. Like China, that's why they created words. No, the, the, no, during, during the, uh, immediately following the Gutenberg press, right? There was an underground network of pornography that would be like for real in the 1600s, you would have to, uh, get these books that would be underground railroaded. Uh, unfortunately to use that metaphor.

Uh, but that is also how so many Bibles were distributed. Interesting. That's how so many, uh, uh, different, uh, works of great literature were distributed. Porn, porn has not just been around. I get that people believe that Internet porn is a whole different thing. It is. But we wouldn't have fucking movies if it weren't for porn. Every technological advancement has almost always come through the use of pornography.

I don't disagree with that. It's a very powerful motivator for people. I mean, how much Japanese art would we have if it weren't for porn? Are you talking about tentacle shit? No, I'm just talking about, I'm talking about so many different things. Like in the way that they dealt with, uh, uh, sex workers back in Japan, they would draw these, uh, ookey, ookey, uh, things. I don't know if I have that.

You mispronounced ookey cookie. I don't know if I have the correct terminology. Right. I may have made a mistake there. You're not going to get a correction. But, but that was, that was the way they advertised it. And the way that you drew it was so important as well. So much of our entire existence is built on porn.

Okay. So I get it. Everyone. Everyone listening gets it. You love porn. I don't. I mean, I, well, look, hey, we all have our stuff. Hey, we all have our stuff.

So anyway, Alex is weird about it, but, uh, that is only the first thing he's super weird about on the 20th. Uh, on September 20th, he spends a good hour and a half of the show or so, uh, in, uh, a co-hosting fashion with our old chiropractor friend, the one and only doctor group, doctor group. Yeah. He comes on. I wonder what his thoughts on porn are.

He loves it. He thinks it's very historically important. Yeah. Two of you would get along. Fuck you. I'm sorry. I'm sick today. And I'm just, I'm just so done with.

That day. Cool. Sick of the bullshit. Oh man. I'm just so done with hot takes. Okay. I'm so done with them. Everybody has to have this hot take on porn or whatever.

I'm sorry. His take was hot. No, no, no, not at all. I'm just saying that recently I've read a bunch of them about porn and how everybody does all of this shit. And it's like, it, it always boils back down to you don't know anything. Well, you definitely haven't learned anything from history. Well, that's, that's fair.

But I, I think, and I don't know what you've been reading necessarily. So I don't, I don't know if I can respond to any of it. I've read it all. Fine. Whenever I was nine. I think that there is something to be looked at and something to be cautious of with the combination of pornography and high speed internet. I agree.

Because of the ability of internet itself to be habit forming and compulsive and pornography also to be compulsive, the mixture of the two in the same way that online gambling is super, you know, it can, you can get immersed in it. I agree. There are, there are elements of it and that's not porn's fault necessarily, but I'm not, I'm not going to try and say that let's, let's go wild west on it. You know, like anything goes, but I am saying that there's a lot of, like, hey, let's, let's face it.

Do you like oral sex? If it weren't for porn, probably wouldn't be around. That's bullshit. Like Benjamin Franklin. That's bullshit. Benjamin Franklin. People would have figured it out. Went to France.

Uh, one of the big reasons that he went to France all the time was because their horse, uh, his little, little beach, his language, uh, performed it French style, French style, which did not happen in the United States of America. Well, but it would have eventually. I mean, you can say that pornography did it. Who cares? Let's not try and relitigate the history of sexual act. I'm just very angry.

I'm very angry today. This is the first fucking clip. I know. I'm sorry. You have a show tonight. I know. I'm sorry. We can't spend 10 minutes on this.

This is so minor. I know. Listen, you're going to be. Awareness is not adjusting my anger. You're going to get so much more furious. Okay, great. Cause Dr. Group. Cause if this is how we start.

Dr. Group is on the show because he got, uh, a package from a whistleblower. Okay. Keep going. Keep going. Dr. Group, as we know, is a chiropractor and a quote unquote holistic medicine specialist working out of Houston. He's working out of the new life medical center or whatever. Sure.

Uh, very interestingly reviewed online by past clients and customers. Uh, so he got a package from someone that included a coloring book that children were getting in Texas schools about mental illness and about going to a psychiatrist. And it's largely taking some of the stigma and fear away from going to a doctor and talking about, uh, issues that you may have. Ah, boy, they take a very different approach to it. Oh no. Uh, and so Dr. Group and Alex talk about, um, psychiatric care and, uh,

No, no, I'm not going to be happy about whatever happens next. You're not, I'm not going to be happy. You're not, but it's, it's worth exploring a little bit because of some of the bullshit. Yeah. And it, uh, you know, it's the narrative that they want to talk about. So we're, we're going to have to talk about it. Here's the first clip where Alex and Dr. I don't want to even call him Dr. Group. I'm going to call him Ed from now on.

That sounds good. So Alex, Ed Group is his name. Edward Group. So Alex and Ed. Good thing he became a fake doctor. Yeah. Ed Group is a terrible name. Ed Group.

CPA. Uh, so. Ed Group sentient flies. Ed Group. I bought my degree. Uh, so they just, they're in this clip. They're discussing how basically all, uh, medication is mind control. Sure.

So please resist the urge to scream about any of this. Okay. I know it's going to be tough. All of these medications lead to multiple side effects. Over 780,000 adverse effects have been reported with psychotrophic drugs. That's humongous. They know that they're going to put you on multiple other medications, but they also know that you're going to be in the system.

And that there is law. There are laws written that if you have mental illness, they can take you or your car. They can take you or your car. There is law. There are laws written that if you have mental illness, they can take you or your kids and you have zero rights at any time that they want to take you.

It also prevents you from having a gun in those cases. Oh, if only down that way. Oh, if only to dumb you down and make you easily controllable. And I've even read some reports now about, uh, electromagnetic frequencies. And when you combine these psychotropic medications with different types of chemical land, that's why they're spraying aluminum in the atmosphere, not just weather control. They admit all that as well.

It's all declassified. It's all declassified. That's a chemtrail stuff and the EMF stuff. That's Dr. Hamamoto. Just delve, dovetail them in together. That's my favorite crazy coming back. Yeah. Dr. Group has been reading Hamamoto.

Yeah. That rug really ties the room together there. Those lies really do it. Isn't it great? Like the more we sort of look at these things, the more we see like it's all self-reinforcing. Yeah. It's all complete lies that are just like, oh, A props up B, B props up D,

and C's somewhere in the mix there. It's a network of bullshit that, yeah. Are there even 780,000 things that can happen through medication? That sounds bullshit. That sounds made up. No, no, it's a lot of repeats. I'm sure. But then he's not taking into account that a lot of them are like dry mouth or headache

and stuff like that that are just like, oh, that's minor. And if you were a real doctor, he would understand the nature of side effects and how it's kind of part of using medicines and you'd learn to deal with them or adjust the medication accordingly. Do you know what's crazy? What's that? My medication. I'm on 600 milligrams of lmectal, which is theoretically an okay dose.

It causes autism. Oh boy. Isn't that crazy? Wait, wait. That's fantastic. Are you, are you parodying Ed here? I am. Okay.

I am trying. I'm trying to go further than him and you can't without being just ridiculous. Yeah. You either. You can't parody something that is so beyond, like, what do you say to that? And coming from you, I almost believed that. I was like, well, you know, like that's a hypothetical side effect. Yeah.

No, that's not how that works. Why the fuck would it be? Of course not. Yeah. That's not how autism works. That's not how medication works. So in this next clip, they talk more about the mind control aspects of medication. Of course.

And then they try and make you really scared of doctors period. And it ends with something that seems kind of like a job. You shouldn't need their help. The number one cause of death in hospitals is Dr. Error. It's true. Yeah. And a MRSA. And Jenny, who is a nurse that murders people.

Yeah. She's the angel of death. She's the angel of death, Jenny. So this clip ends with something that seems kind of jocular, but it's actually like it's really funny when you know what I want to remind you at the end of this. Let's get back into the coloring book. Our audience knows this. What do they do to get the word out that the next big rollout phase is here?

And by the way, we did find the 911 tape he's talking about. It's chilling. We're going to play it after the break. So Dr. Group Ed had said before this that he had heard a 911 call of someone calling in to the police to admit that he had just killed his children. And I don't know why you would ever want to listen to that or play it on the show. I turned it off before they ever played it if they did because I would never want to hear that.

No. I don't care for that. But I mean... Is that another one of those... That's what they're referencing. That's one of those some nambulism situations where he was taking some kind of prescribed sleeping pill and... I have no idea.

That has happened. That has happened in the past. Oh, sure. I've taken sleeping pills and like wound up somewhere. Yeah. Never killed children. No. I have absolutely had situations like, oh boy.

It is a possible thing. It has happened before. No one... Let me tell you this. Yeah. Ed does not go very heavy on the details. He does not explain too much what the situation is. But that just for reference what they're talking about there.

Just to illustrate what we're up against. Totally normal people get put on these drugs. They don't even tell you when you get them that's a 33% increase in early death or that... So I looked into this. I Googled 33% increased risk of death of drugs. And all of these statistics that I could find that matched the 33%, the drugs, it was about overdoses. They have gone up 33% since like a couple years back.

Since the opioid crisis. Right. Right. So in the last 10 years or so, 33% increase in overdose deaths. Yeah. I also found some studies about basically antipsychotics greatly reduce death rates in people who are schizophrenic. Absolutely.

Kept me from dying. Yeah. And me as well, not antipsychotics, but antidepressants at times in my life, 100%. And at the same time, every single study that you find, if you actually look at it, they make very clear that in no way could you study what would have happened if someone wasn't on the drug. Of course. So anytime you're trying to cite like this increases a risk of death, untreated mental

illnesses, especially ones that have schizophrenic tendencies or depression. I mean, depression has a very high likelihood of you hurting yourself. So the potential for what is being missed by Alex's rhetoric is everything. It's everything. If Alex quotes a study, he is lying about it. Basically. That is a 100% chance. That's the result of our study that we've been doing.

Yeah. Exactly. Which will be peer reviewed. That a massive increase in psychotic breaks, megalomania, mass murder, it says it on the insert because it is a hallucinogen system. But instead of seeing pink elephants and stuff, folks, you don't go into full elucidation. You go into a subconscious realm in between consciousness and unconsciousness. You go into a dream state.

It's a highly suggestible mind control drugs. This is a fact. It says it on the inserts. Yes, it does. So basically just to go back to the coloring book, I just show you the last few pages, which is sickening. Chris's mommy took Chris to a special doctor. So just real quick.

It's a coloring book and it's for children and it's, you know, it's just animals. It's like anthropomorphized animals going about their day and going to a therapist. That's it. It's nothing. It's nothing. They make it so creepy. It's so fucked up. But it's nothing really out of the ordinary that you would see probably, I mean, you'd

see it at a doctor's office. You make sense to have kids exposed to the ideas of, hey, if you feel weird, there might be help. That sort of thing would have been incredibly helpful for most of the people I have ever met. I mean, hey, my family didn't even believe in psychiatrists and psychiatric medicine for so long that it did a lot of damage to me. And if only they had read a children's book.

So here we go. I can help you. Everything's going to be okay. This doctor asked Chris questions about how Chris felt and gave Chris some medicine. Isn't that nice that eats holes in their brain? Here's something way worse than cocaine and heroin. Totally deadly. Oh, now Chris takes medicine every day.

And Chris goes to see a special person to play and talk. By the way, most sexual crimes are actually created. Fuck you. Men with psychiatrists, because of medication, they get to know the children, it is absolutely sick. They know they can control the whole thing. I don't want to lump all the psychiatrists. Now there are a lot of good people.

There are a lot of good people. And Carl Jung was a great guy. The point is there's big pharma trying to find bad people. And so he was. Yeah. Like I've been in the clinic, you know, just to get a checkup or whatever, and you'll see the most gorgeous supermodel woman. I've seen this like twice.

I go, who is that? And they go, oh, that's the drug rep. And you've got the doctors eating out of their hands. And the word is they don't just give them little bonuses and stuff. The doctors that get the big bonuses, they get the sugar. So I think, I think, I think he's been watching house. All right. I think that's what.

Now, one, he is right. Drug reps are or are like, I don't think they're prostitutes. No, they are usually not prostitutes. They're very hot for the manipulative reason. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. He was, he was doing great.

And then he was like, and then you get to fucking. And I was like, no, no, you shouldn't, you, it's not like you need it more. I'm willing to bet that that has happened occasionally, but that's not the, it's the exception, not the rule. Yeah. Who cares if like, no, it shouldn't, you don't need that part. No, it's bad enough already that they are using that influence to give people drugs that maybe they wouldn't otherwise have because of the drug reps, because they do get kickbacks.

I worked in a medical field for a long time and I'll tell you right now, they do get kickbacks. Totally. Yeah. And the idea that most sexual crimes are being done by psychiatrists. Oh, I can't even breathe. There's an article here in the Atlantic Journal Constitution. They analyzed more than a hundred thousand disciplinary documents and other records from across the country to find cases that may have involved sexual misconduct with doctors.

As a whole, which does include dentists who are creeps, as we know, and they found more than 2,400 incidents since January 1st, 1999 of people who were sanctioned for violations that clearly involved patients. So that 2,400 out of a hundred thousand is a small percentage of the hundred thousand. And it's also 2,400 since 1999 is an incredibly small percentage of sex crimes. Wait, that's total? It's not per 100,000. It's over that time span.

There have been a hundred thousand? I'm sure there are other, I mean, there have been other complaints. They didn't look at every single complaint at every hospital, but it should be, it should give you some sense of scale. Now that said, though, there are how many could have gone unreported? Tons. Tons. Tons.

But that's going to be fairly difficult, look. And let me tell you something. I'm going to go out on a limb here and I'm going to say far less likely that it was drugs, far more likely that it's toxic masculinity. Probably. Yeah. But the thing I really want to peel out of this is that those numbers cannot make up a majority of sexual assaults and crimes.

Maybe not possible. No. Dr. Group is pulling shit out of his ass. Now. Wait, what? Here's how this clip ends. They've just talked about the drug reps having sex and here's how it ends. So they're using sex?

No. You didn't know about this? It's been in the news that the drug reps are basically prostitutes. Absolutely. No, no. It's serious. I mean, have you ever had them threatened? They don't want to take care of you?

No, because I don't deal with drugs. Here's why. Because I don't use real medicine here. I'm not a doctor. Exactly. I can't prescribe anything. That's why no drug rep has ever tried to fuck me. I think Alex might have realized he went down the wrong road there.

Like Dr. Group has no reason. He might need to talk. Yeah. There aren't any Ginko below the reps. That's the only thing that would be possible or a colloidal iodine. Yeah. Yeah. You're talking to some guy who owns a drilling operation, not some fucking bombshell.

I make the deep earth iodine. So this next clip, we can pause it whenever we need to, but it's a little bit long. There was no way for me to cut it down without destroying the context. Yes, because in this next clip, they bring out the coloring book and Alex editorializes on it in one of the most inappropriate fashions he is capable of. It is gross. And here we go. You're listening to the Alex Jones show.

I'm Alex Jones, your host and I'm hopping mad. They have the new freedom initiative. It's bipartisan. They want to drug our children. They have liability protection for the vaccines. Now they want it for the antipsychotics, for the psychotropics. It's incredible. And it's on the insert that it causes psychotic breaks.

We've been over this, but I just want to reiterate the reason that they have that protection for vaccine companies is because of people like Alex. It's because of people who cause anti vaccination panics because of demagogues who use that as another, you know, monster of the week, right? It's a hundred percent in order to make sure that, uh, imagine medical progress continues. Imagine how much research would be destroyed, how much good would be gone if people listened to Alex Jones. Dark ages.

Yeah. It would just be plagues everywhere. Like the, the idea of, um, all these potential side effects mean you shouldn't take, uh, medication that could save your life, right, uh, or save other people's lives. If you have a psychotic break or something like that, uh, there's a public responsibility on a certain extent. How many people die because of whole, because they go to a holistic medicine, like Dr. Group or Ed Group, Ed, Ed Group, the science poop, uh, really science.

No. Um, but, but I'm saying that like that is a direct analog to like, if we didn't vaccinate people because of potential side effects, you'd have everyone with smallpox. We would just, the humanity would be dead, which at this point, uh, bring it at this point. Yeah. Maybe, maybe vaccines are bad. Maybe we should have culled.

Yeah. Anyway, let's get to this coloring book. It's on the insert. Oh, also I want to say this, uh, about insert, uh, every, every, every, every, every, every Alex is obsessed with the inserts that come with, uh, medications. Uh-huh. Uh, you know, he talks about it with the vaccines all the time. He's like, no, no, no, not the insert that you can find online.

The, that thin, papered one that, uh, comes with the vial at the doctor's office, like it says basically all the exact same stuff. Yeah. Uh, and you know, if you get a prescription or something, it has that really long, uh, paper that most people don't ever read, but you can, it's there. That's the insert, uh, that has all the secret information about how it's going to kill you. Oh, but the, the reason I paused, the reason I wanted to pause this is, uh, in preparation

for this episode, I was doing a little bit of research and, uh, it turns out that adult coloring books are highly recommended by psychiatrists and psychologists. Yeah. Apparently it's one thing that is really therapeutic, uh, that people just, uh, never really pay attention to. Yeah. So if you want to go get a coloring book, that's a knowledge, if they had, if they had a CBT coloring book, that would have made me far more likely to, uh, do those

cocking ball torture. Uh, no. What? Uh, cognitive behavioral therapy. Fuck you. Uh, boy. Let's also, that would be a great name for it. Let's make a knowledge fight coloring book.

Let's make a knowledge fight. Cock and ball. Cock and ball. No. That it makes you kill your family, that it takes away the impulse control that people normally would have. Like you're going to have a great time on acid until you have a bad trip. It's in the same class.

You just don't see funny colors and stuff though. A lot of folks get the wrong balance of the medication. And yeah, you can have some really crazy people. This stuff might actually help them. They've got studies that ecstasy is, you know, helping people, uh, MDMA or whatever it's called a big studies for PTSD, but, but not when you're taking it every day. No one. Okay.

And the point is you put 10s of millions of people on this. It can get explosive. So let's go over this. Chris, are you sad? Oh, look, Chris is sad crying. Oh, the school bus in the morning, Alex goes to school on the big yellow bus. Chris's mom brings Chris to daycare and then goes to work. Have a good day.

I'll see you at home. Good mommy. She's not with her kids. A daddy. We're not saying mommy. We're going to be in the hall. They just, ever this is propaganda. Daddy picks up Chris at daycare.

Yay. Send the kid to daycare. Daddy drives Chris home. Maybe if we didn't all, I mean, after all that driving daycare, I'd be depressed. One day mommy noticed that Chris looks sad and was not having a fun day. Not that he might be sick. Not that he might have allergies. Not that he might have a little blood sugar.

No, we better take you to a teddy bear in the back of a truck. So the doctor is a teddy bear, but the thing that Alex is expressing here is, I don't know how exactly I want to phrase this, but how I would put it is he's super into personal responsibility and what have you. And he's not believing that people are capable of being decent parents because he's assuming that, oh my kid, it doesn't feel good. Let's take him to the therapist as opposed to those things being checked off the list before you explore that option.

Look, maybe he needs a Snickers or something like that. That's absurd. Yeah. What he's describing as munch housings by proxy, basically, I mean, and just a complete lack of trust in people's ability to live their lives. And all he wants is everyone to just live their lives. Well, everybody doesn't live their lives the way he wants everybody to live their lives. Right.

So they're doing it wrong. And he doesn't want people to have the option of going to a therapist or a psychiatrist. Which for somebody who's all about personal freedom, doesn't seem like it matches up at all. This is philosophically very muddy. It's more, he's an idiot. That's true. He's fucking stupid.

Mommy remembered that Chris Bestfriend Pat moved away. Oh, because the friend moves, you need drugs. Chris was sad. We've got something that will eat your brain and reduce your life expectancy by 33%. It's liberal though. But this time, Chris was very sad for a long time. Oh, you lean over at the end, you get ice cream because you want the drugs. Chris cried a lot when mommy asked why Chris said, I don't know.

Chris acted grouchy most of the time. Oh, he was bad. It wasn't. He's a symptom of, you know, it wasn't red dye. It wasn't too much TV. It wasn't enough time with parents. It wasn't as normal acting out in each discipline. You need hardcore psychotic drugs because they have anti psychotics.

These make you psychotic. Chris didn't feel like eating even the dessert. Oh, Chris had trouble sleeping. Oh, my gosh, mommy and daddy sat down. It's not that Chris wasn't playing outside anymore and watching TV all day. No, it was that he needed hardcore drugs, eat holes in your brain. Everyone feels sad sometimes, but you've been very sad for a very long time. We want to help you feel happy again.

Oh, how sick this is. You know, I can't begin to describe how much I hate this because I remember when I was a kid, I was probably 12 or 13 at the time and my family didn't believe in any kind of psychiatry. So I had a complete manic episode and got into a fight with my parents. And what wound up happening is I went back into my room and I found every picture that had me in it and I scratched out my face. Like, and they couldn't deal with that. So I got punished. Right.

I remember I have Alex Jones says you just need discipline. I just need discipline. Yeah, I had I basically slept for three days and they couldn't deal with that. So I got punished. Like, what is what kind of fucking lunatic is like, well, this just needs to be beaten out of you. Right. Spare the spare the rod, spoil the child and that's what those fuckers believe. Right.

And it is it damaged me. I didn't even go get help until I was slept for three days. Maybe you just need to go outside. Exactly. I didn't even get help until I was 22. Yeah. Because of this bullshit and my life would have been immeasurably better. Sure.

Had I actually done something about it when I was a child. Yeah. It's one of the real tragedies that you're expressing and I can definitely relate to in many ways is like when there's stigmatization of mental health issues, or in my case, almost novelty is Asian. Like, I don't know how to describe it. It's not really important, but you end up wasting so much time in your life. Yeah.

And you end up like you said, 22. I was probably around the same age when things became more serious for me, or at least I took a little responsibility. Right. Although quite frankly, it might be 33. Yeah. Realistically when I grew up. Yeah.

Yeah. But there's so much lost time. There's so much time that people who don't struggle with these sorts of things, they don't have like they got there early time. Right. And without these negative impulses and these negative narratives around mental health, you could save a lot of people from a lot of wasted time. There's so much that I've run.

There's so many bridges that I've burned. There's so much that could have been averted. Yeah. Had I not been a fucking insane person. That wasn't your fault. I know. And it wasn't your choice. Right.

Yeah. And it's all like. But Alex wants to make it your choice. And I can't, and I don't blame my parents for it. I blame their dumb fuck religion that they still fucking believe in and they should fucking stop. But if that's a, that's a longer conversation. Right.

Right. Anyways, all religion is a lie. So. Now who's doing takes to the camera? I had to. I had to do one take to the camera. Right. I mean, it, you know, it is, it is on one hand your parents fault, but on a much bigger

and more important version of it. It's the ideology again of propaganda. It's the ideology and the ideology as it relates to this is the same stuff that Alex Jones is spouting. He's bordering on Christian scientists at times. Yeah. He's bordering on sovereign citizenship. Scientologists.

He is all over the place to like a really scary extent. But anyway, he's not done with the coloring book. Great. And I'm telling you, it gets worse. How can you not be done with a coloring book? Anyways. There's a drug dealer. He looks like a teddy bear.

Now get in the back of the white truck. It's all right to the opposite of don't get in the back of the truck when a guy offers you a teddy bear or a puppy or ice cream. Now go to this room with this man named Joseph Mengele. Chris's mommy took Chris to a special doctor who looked like a teddy bear. He said, I can help you. That's not creepy. The doctor asked Chris questions about how Chris felt and gave Chris some special medicine.

And now he sees stars and so fun as his brain dies. And that actually does sound fun. Anything that's written for children sounds dumb in an adult's mouth. You know what I'm saying? Especially if you're trying to be creepy. Yeah, yeah. He went to a doctor. Yeah, it's a pathetic and he got some medicine.

We still have another minute. Jesus. Thank you, mommy. Now Chris takes medicine every day and sees the happy colors. Chris isn't growing a lot and has big zits all over his body. And then he started having convulsions last week. But now we just put him on extra drugs. And now, oh, mommy likes him, too.

Mommy likes him. And Chris goes to see a special person to play and talk. Looks like a person out of the shining. Oh. And then Chris thinks about splitting this wrist or hanging himself now. Because now they've got the death education. After a while, Chris is sleeping better. Chris feels like eating again.

He's drunk out. Oh, he sleeps good, just like the sanitarium. And he loves his ice cream. His tongue's hanging out. His tongue out. He isn't getting groundy all the time now. Chris likes to play again. This Chris is dead.

His soul's gone. Liberal, liberal. Salon says pedophilia's good. The deputy pope likes to traffic children. Hail Satan. OK. The deputy pope does? There was a thing that came out about the deputy pope who may or may not

have had some involvement in. You know what? I don't care. Catholic Church is wildly evil. To a great extent. I assume the worst about the Catholic Church. And tell proof. And otherwise they're all on notice.

Yeah, they're all suspect. And I don't know if you'd really characterize the Catholic Church as liberal. But yeah, I definitely wouldn't be that as it may. Even the super nice pope is like, let's not murder gaze. Like, you're not quite there. Super nice pope. He's only cool pope because of the last one was a nothing.

Yeah, exactly. And all the rest of them have not been much better. No. So that's like just such a load of shit. Alex, I know he had nothing. And Dr. Group comes in with this coloring book. And he's like, fuck yeah, let's fill some time. I can editorialize on this like crazy.

I don't want to talk about Manafort stuff. No. Fuck that. Uh-uh, uh-uh. So also, you missed this. Paul Manafort. Alex's narrative about him is that Mueller has got to him. And he's like, I mean, yeah.

But he doesn't have anything. So Mueller approaches him and he's like, you better start making some shit up about Trump or else we're going to diesel you. We're going to fucking torture you until your legs pop. So Alex is. I am not against that. But Alex's version of it is that he's

being told he needs to lie about Trump or else he's going to be tortured to death. Of course. Which seems very reasonable. Very likely. Look, with our FBI and intelligence agencies, they've tortured plenty of people to death. Well.

Fucking the CPD has tortured plenty of people to death. So I don't care. We went over this on the episode of Drees that had technical difficulties and shit. But the point that I made and I stand by is that Paul Manafort would never be tortured because he's a multimillionaire. There's no way someone like him with the connections

he has is ever going to be touched necessarily. So. Hey, maybe it's a problem. Yeah. Maybe money is an issue. It is. So we have one more clip here from the 20th and it's where I turned it off.

It wasn't like a rage turn off or anything. It was just like, I get the point. This isn't going to get better. So here we go. This is where I checked out. Waging war on corruption. It's Alex Jones coming to you, Lush, on the front lines of the Info War.

There's right here, 33% increase in death. But see, that's when you die. Oh. The friendly teddy bear taught me how to have pustules all over my body and start withering away and giving me deadly drugs that say they can cause me to murder my mommy and daddy. But it's liberal, so it's OK.

And we're going to make money. Sorry, Grip. I've been taking over. You go ahead now. Sorry, Ed. No, I mean, it's just a warning to everybody out there. This is like a fine kid's repetitive feeling. It's like, why have you taken too much time?

They got ice cream. They got puppies. They got teddy bears. Get in the back, kid. You see a clown down in a gutter. He wants to give you some drugs. Take him. You see Pennywise?

He's actually a nice guy. And Alex Jones is a bad guy with that doctor group. You said, little Georgie, stick your hand down this drainage chute. You're going to like it when I tear it off at the elbow. Sorry, Grip. Go ahead. Anybody who's trying to help anybody is bad, Alex.

I mean, that's our job. Even like the John Oliver show and all that stuff they're saying, all that stuff about our supplements. I want to see how many people John Oliver has helped. I want to see if John Oliver can even get into MIT, which they said I didn't even. John Oliver is such a coward. He'll have kids, shoot up with vaccines,

watch them have convulsions, and he'll celebrate it. I'm telling you, they're the type that would never even say they made a mistake. Because sorry, go ahead. Beep. Beep. Beep. Beep.

I love the complicated relationship between interrupting and then feeling bad about interrupting. I love that vacillation that Alex has. But yeah, I was just like, all right, I get it. I get it. We're just going to do anti-vex, anti-medicine stuff. I'll tune in tomorrow. You guys have fun.

I know it seems like, I guess it's just that as much as awful as he is all the time, this just depresses me because it hits home. It's so close to me. And there's so many times that I can have a distance. As much as I fucking hate his white nationalist bullshit, at the same time, I'm raging at that in an intellectual level. Because I can't experience it.

I don't have that physical reaction to it. No, I know. If things went real bad, if you weren't on your meds. If I was, yeah, that's a good point. You might end up in some internet forum that ends up turning you into a white nationalist. Yeah, that's true. You know, there's a whole possibility in any of us.

Or if I was Alex, I could experience racism from other races on me. That's entirely possible. Again, if you were off your meds, you might experience that. Seems like that's the main reason Alex experiences it, because he never got on his meds. That's the other thing that I wanted to point out. So much of this smacks to me as someone

who recognizes on an emotional level that they're mentally ill and can't allow themselves to understand it because of pride, because of ego, whatever the particular thing is. What I hear from Alex is so much of like, maybe he went to a doctor when he was a kid, or something like that. And it didn't take, or he wasn't engaged with the process.

Or maybe at some point in his life, maybe not even as a kid, and he's bitter about it still. And he's like, they couldn't fix me, they can't do shit, or something like that. I mean, that is also like, I've been to three different psychiatrists to work shit out. Sure, that's what everyone does. Yeah, if I had that inclination,

I could have been like, well, psychiatry doesn't work, so I'm out, you know? And I would have gone to Ed Group. Yeah, the Global Healing Center. Yeah, no kidding. Fucking massive. I'm even susceptible to that to a certain extent. Like, I have my periods where I'm just like,

well, nothing's ever gonna work. Yeah. And you know. But I might be being way too empathic and trying to apply humanity to Alex where it does not exist. He's a piece of shit, and he should go fuck himself. I'm with you, but he's also a human.

And so whenever there is- I've stopped believing that. Well. I genuinely have, I've stopped believing that. He lost his humanity card a while back for me. I meant he's a mortal flesh and blood person. Eh. He's an ape.

He's an animal. Fine, even if you're an ape, input leads to output. And so when we experience an output, I always try and figure out, why is this the output? What happened? Or what would lead one to this? And obviously, with the vaccination stuff, with almost every narrative he has,

he's illiterate and he doesn't know what he's reading. He's misinterpreting things, or he's allowing propaganda to sway him. Or he's deliberately lying about them. Right, that's entirely possible too. But that opens up the other section of the mystery, which is if he's lying, why is he lying? What is the motivation?

Because I don't think that somebody necessarily, just for fun, would wanna lie about vaccines. I mean, if you have a lot of money in a group's bullshit being sold, then of course you're gonna advertise that. True. But other medicine doesn't work. That's fair.

That could be it. It could be crash commercialism. Who knows? Anyway, that's just something. Could be all of those wrapped up in one. It could be, it could be. And it could be just a broken person who doesn't know how to fix himself.

And SuperMail is not helping. No, a sociopathic monster. So now we go on to the 21st. And things get a little weird on the 21st of September, 2017. Because Media Matters has come out with an article that Alex spends almost the entire show misunderstanding. Okay. And we'll get to that after Alex Rambles

about Pilgrims to the Stars. Oh my God. We are the Resistance. We are the Info War. And that intro that we just played is almost four years old. Make a new one. And I've got intros from 15 years ago

saying we are the Resistance. We are the Information War. We're going to identify the authoritarian system of globalism. We're going to speak out against it. We're going to raise the alarm as modern day Paul Revere's across the globe. So also Alex is really pissed off.

Paul Revere was a shit alarm. There was a woman who did twice as much. Guess why she was scrubbed out of history. Interesting that you bring that up. Because why Alex Jones is calling himself Paul Revere is because yesterday. It's because he's largely ineffectual and boring. Well, yesterday Hillary Clinton

an interview with her came out and said that she was trying to be a Paul Revere for issues like cybersecurity and stuff like that. And so Alex is furious that she's like, no, I'm Paul Revere. I was like, all right, all right. Who cares? Who fucking cares?

I'm the Swamp Fox. I'm Penny. And we are going to reinstitute the free market capitalist nation-state system of Renaissance prosperity and the long march to the stars. Also, he did not know how poorly people lived during the Renaissance. Does he?

He doesn't know that at all. No. He might be talking about the Harlem Renaissance. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think he understands who Web Dubois is. I also want to point out the entire intro until he gets to the part about Drudge.

He's looking around and clearly like filling time. He's like the producer has stepped away from the board or something like that. He's like, I don't know what's going on. I have no cues. I'm just going to talk about going to the stars. All right. The long, glorious pioneer march to the stars

and unlocking the secrets of the universe and the globalists, they don't want that. They think they've already got the secrets. They've already got their AI. They want to wall us off from the future. Sounds about right. Gentlemen, that's not going to happen. And now these enemies of progress,

these enemies of freedom, these enemies of America, these enemies of Western civilization and Christianity that are in control of our governments are saying everyone that wants freedom is a Russian agent. Because we couldn't think for ourselves, we couldn't vote against Hillary. There it is, drudgereport.com. Media matters.

That's George Soros, the Nazi collaborator. Nope. George infected America with Russian propaganda. And I guess he infected it with the New York Times, the Washington Post and CNN. He links to everything. But there it is. And they track where how he linked to Interfax,

Itar, Toss and Pravda. And he linked to the Japanese and Chinese and Mexican news too. And he linked to all their reports. Just like he links to the media matters report right there. I guess he's infecting us with media matters. So this is an article that has come out on media matters. And what they did is they reviewed a lot of the links

that have happened over the course of 2012 to 2017. And they found that there was a substantial jump in links to Russian state owned media sources in 2016. It's a jump from, what is this? About 85 in 2015 to 122 links in 2016. And that's up from about 35, 40 in 2014. So those are massive jumps. And they're all state owned media sources.

It's not that, it's just like a Russian newspaper. So when he talks about like the Mexican news and stuff like that, those aren't necessarily state run operations. That could just be a Mexican news source. That's one of the reasons why this is particularly like interesting as a study. Secondly, the only thing that Alex says is like,

he links to the New York Times. He links to X, Y, he does lots of links. Which means he hasn't read the article. Cause the article isn't just that he links to all this stuff. It's more important that they found that he, here I'll just read this quote here. Drudge has also regularly turned to RT and Sputnik for unskeptical coverage of statements from Putin

and other Kremlin officials, including their denials of Russian election interference, their criticisms of the US role in Syria, and their efforts to undermine NATO members. And he's frequently highlighted the Russian outlets favorite conspiracy theories and hysterics, including their reports on meetings of the mysterious Bilderberg group,

debunked claims that Google manipulated its search results to favor Clinton, and warnings of increased Western support of Satanism. Drudge's affinity for Russian President Vladimir Putin and his propaganda outlets is undoubtedly a major asset for the Kremlin. Drudge has a rare power as a media gatekeeper due to his unusual ability to push reporting

from previously unknown outlets to a massive audience. So throughout they give a lot of instances, like all of these have links to what they're talking about. And what it's really about is not that he made links, it's that he supported the Russian propaganda narrative of various incidents. So you had one really good specific that they had in here was the Malaysian plane.

They talked about the shooting of the Malaysian plane. So here we go. On July 17th, 2014, Malaysia Airlines flight MH-17 was shot down over Eastern Ukraine, killing 298 passengers and crew. The next day, President Barack Obama alleged that the responsible parties were Russian-backed separatists seizing territory in the region

following Russia's annexation of Crimea. Obama's statement came amid a furious effort by Russian propaganda outlets to foster confusion about the act. In their telling, the tragedy had actually been a failed attempt by Ukrainians to shoot down President Vladimir Putin's plane. The Russian propaganda effort received a substantial boost

when right-wing internet journalist Matt Drudge highlighted a story on the topic from RT, the website of the Russian government-backed English language news channel. Drudge titled the resulting item on the Drudge Report, his highly-trafficked link aggregation website, quote, RT, Putin's plane might have been target in bright red text.

So the thing that... So not only is he linking to it, but it's going up as a huge signal boost that he's put... Like on the Drudge Report, which I do my best never to visit, but I saw my dad go to, there's always the big giant. Click on this, and then there's all those tons

of little tiny ones down there. It's called being a red-linked. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's such bullshit to even characterize it as, oh, he's just linking to it. Like he can really influence things by how he's linking to it. And he writes the links. He writes what the links say,

and that changes people's perceptions as they engage with... Because idiots only read headlines. But at the same time, I completely support his ability to do that. I think that is still within free speech. I think he's a craven, horrible propagandist. I...

And we should treat him as such, but I don't think... I think he should be allowed to do that. I don't support his ability to do that. I support it in as much as I support things that are distasteful and awful. I just wish that we had a conversation in place that was much more realistic and much more...

Maybe the larger issue is that Alex is right whenever he says we don't think that they are capable of thinking for themselves because they're not. Like that's just... Who is they? What else? People who go to Drudge?

Yeah, basically. I would say that. So, but the bigger issue is that the article is not about how many links he put up or any of that stuff. It is about the narratives. It's about how he falls in line with the Russian version of almost every story

and how that has a trickle-down effect throughout right-wing media. Alex Jones, Breitbart, all of them take massive cues from Breitbart and thus... From Drudge. Yeah, oh, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah. Thus, he is the purveyor, the bottleneck, as it were,

where Russian propaganda ends up getting funneled and mainstreamed. That's what the article is about and it's very fair. It is something that people need to deal with, frankly. I mean, one of the... Whether or not it's actual collusion, it is that... I'm not saying that necessarily.

No, no, I know, but it is that you have to go far outside of America to get your dumbass narrative support because they are patently untrue. So, of course Drudge has to link to RT because reality disagrees with him and RT loves peddling a false reality. So that gives them... That supports the Russian version of reality.

Exactly. And so, or, well, their version of reality. As Alexander Dugan has said, Russia has its own version of truth and has their own truth because there is no objective reality. We have our own truth. Yeah.

Something that I've been thinking about a lot. I've been dwelling on foreign policy a little bit. And one of the things that has become incredibly clear to me is how wildly complicated everything is. Like, you think about how Russia's, or not Russia, excuse me, China supports North Korea, right? Yeah. Think about it, and most people,

if they were hard pressed to say why, it would just be like, well, they're both communist countries and, you know, say it's my big brother, little brother kind of thing. Right. That's what a lot of people would think. Or it could be, by their support, it keeps North Korea from acting even crazier.

Well, that's one possibility. Another possibility is that were North Korea to be, like, if they were, China, this is one possibility. Yeah. Just speculating wild. China supports North Korea. North Korea wants to reunify Korea.

Korea, if reunified, would likely reject a US military presence there. And that would weaken Japan's status in the Asian sphere. So there could be an entire thing going on where there's a domino effect of China wanting to weaken Japan and get America out of their periphery, and they do that by supporting North Korea. What I'm getting at is all these things are possible

and likely influences on things, and there's a simplistic version and an incredibly impossible to break down reality. It's like if you go to a recording studio and you see an actual sound board and how huge it is, 10,000 knobs. Yeah, and how it's like, oh, well, this knob changes something,

and then you have to, and then it changes that over there, and there's so many interlocking effects. If you look at my board, I've got way more effects than I know how to use. Exactly, and there's all kinds of different things that can be adjusted there just by changing a knob a tiny little bit.

So it's hard to find some sort of harmony there, which continuing with my metaphor inexplicably, that without breaking something else. Right, right, pushing too far on one thing is going to lose control or lose your grip on another. But the- Which is why nationalism is fucking stupid. Very, but the point that I'm getting at

is when you look at the situation with Russia, like it's insane for anyone to think that they don't want to reunify the Soviet Union. It's absurd. It's naive. Just from a geopolitical standpoint, it's if there is a narrative that involves them doing X,

like let's say annexing part of a farmhouse. Like we know they have done it repeatedly. Right. They stole that fish song. Yeah, they did. They own it now. Yeah, Russia now has intellectual property to the butterfly surprise and the Northern Lights.

Yeah. So, but when they do things like that, there's an explanation of like a Russian sympathetic explanation, and then there is a, they are trying to encroach and build back up their territory a little bit at a time. When you have those two possibilities in front of you, you are incredibly irrational

if you don't think the latter is the truth. Because think about it, man, let's imagine we lost the Cold War, right? Or something like that. I don't even know necessarily how we would have except for nuclear war. But let's say the entire scenario was completely different and we end up losing a alternate reality Cold War

where we lose the Western States. Like the entire West Coast is gone. And then over the course of the next 50 years or so, we become slightly more part of the global community. But at the same time, we're a bit of a hostile actor. And we keep sort of stepping into like Montana. We keep taking a little bit of Montana. Like why would anyone think that we wouldn't want

to reunify the United States? Every single country- I mean, we fought a war for it. Yeah. Every single country that is a power that is split ends up wanting to reunify. What's amazing is that because of the narrative, because of the narrative that has arisen

about fucking the dumbest fuck president Reagan solving the Cold War, what people forget is the main reason that we won the Cold War is cooperation. And Russia or the Soviet Union did not do that because they were obsessed with nationalism. It was a triumph of global cooperation over nationalism. Rather than-

Globalism. Yeah, rather the narrative has become, it was a triumph of nationalism over another nation. It was Reagan making a harsh demand. Yeah, exactly. And it's fucking stupid. Yeah, absolutely. The only way you're ever gonna solve those sorts of problems

and any of these incredibly complicated foreign policy problems is pretty much getting large coalitions together to work in concert. And very simply, one of the main reasons that we have the allies we do is because of our support for them and not our attacks on them. Without our support following World War II, Germany would absolutely be a shell.

Germany would be entirely part of the Soviet Union. The same with Japan. Like the way that we won those wars was, or the way that we won those wars beyond the end of the war was we learned the lesson from World War I. The Treaty of Versailles was so punitive towards Germany that of course they were gonna start another fucking war.

Right, right. We figured out the lesson there and learned it. And of course, because all of the people who learned that lesson are dead, we have to learn it all over again. Just like you and I were talking about, we are likely to see another nuke dropped in our lifetimes because people don't remember how monstrous it was.

It's tough to say, but it seems like the likelihood is increasing. But I don't wanna feed into that. Cause I think that a lot of people could hear that and get scared or take it the wrong way. I think that we're probably as close as we've ever been in our lifetimes at least. And who knows.

But I still think that a lot of this is, I think a lot of it has to still be posturing. But be that as it may. We would hope. But be that as it may, with chaotic actors, there is the possibility that posturing accidentally leads to action. I mean, the Petrov dude just died in May

and we didn't find out about it until last week or whatever. You're talking about the guy from the Soviet Union who stopped the end of the world. Who stopped the end of the world single-handedly. He got an alert that American rockets were coming in and he suspected it was a false alarm. And because of that. Had he not, goodbye.

Yeah, they would have launched. They would have launched. There have been at least four examples of that during the Cold War of people just going like, maybe this isn't real. And if you're North Korea, the likelihood of that with an entirely brainwashed civilization seems far less.

Where everyone is brought up to expect that attack. Yeah, exactly. It's tough to say. But be that as it may. Let's get through this, because you got a show tonight. Yeah. This has been a fun conversation about foreign policy.

But let's get into this next clip where Alex talks a little bit about sovereignty, as he usually does. And then has an interesting theory about a, I guess he didn't die recently, but fairly recently dead, prominent figure. Seth Rich. And so he pointed out, MSNBC worries,

Trump uses the word sovereign as a racist dog whistle. They said it was over the top. A loving, focused, good speech about free market and capitalism and brotherhood of humankind. White. White. Well, I don't. Brotherhood of white.

I don't think that he's characterizing that speech correctly. I mean, there was a lot of flowery rhetoric in it. And whoever wrote it did a decent job, except for I think the 30 odd instances of sovereignty being in it. But be that as it may, it's not a friendly loving speech

when you're like, we might have to completely destroy your country. Yeah. Which is a war crime. He threatened to demolish a country. Civilians. Yeah. Yeah.

Unfucking real. It's like all the stuff about sovereignty that you can support. You really have to weigh that against the other stuff he said, right? Nope, just sovereignty. So anyway, he's mad that people are critiquing the use of sovereignty.

And then it gets into this. In all of this. And they're like, oh, did you hear it? Oh, the code words. The code words, like our government, doesn't have one-sided tariffs where all the jobs go to China, where there's slave factories,

so Apple can make billions more a day. That's a good point. I mean, Apple's making billions a day or so. Every couple of days, they make a billion dollars. They got suicide factories. Maybe you don't know. But it's okay. We're Apple.

We're liberal. We said you were white supremacists. Shut up about our death factories. Shut up about 18 hour workdays. As liberal as death. Robots we tried to bring in to replace people didn't work. Shut up.

We've got hippie beards and act non-threatening. When behind the scenes, they're psycho demons. Agreed. Clearly they got rid of jobs because you wouldn't play games, you know, against the American people. Jobs said, don't get your kids have iPads. Don't let your kids watch TV.

It's ruining their brains. Didn't jobs. Oh, here, here's some weaponized cancer, brother. Oh, why they got rid of them? So these people mean business, okay? He's saying that they hit him with some weaponized cancer and took him out. Oh, is that what they did?

Yeah. Gotcha. I missed that part where they killed him. Well, once you allow any kind of death to be murdered. I thought maybe it was because he refused treatment for cancer because he was taking what might as well have been Ed Groups bullshit. It might have been.

Yeah, it might as well have been. Yeah. Super male vitality does not cure cancer is the lesson of Steve Jobs. Something that Alex has had to say on air many times. But I don't think that our boy Steve Jobs, first of all, I don't think he said no one should have iPads and iPhones. Pretty sure he said the very opposite of that.

I do recall, I haven't really looked into this too deeply, but I know that Alex's old version of it was that Steve Jobs said that his kids didn't have them. Yeah. And that he didn't want them to have it at a young age for whatever reason. So he's even switched the narrative here to be he didn't want anyone to have them.

He told, he came out and said they were bad and that's why they killed him. It's been declassified. They killed him with that fucking aggressive weapon cancer. Yeah. Bullshit. Polonium poisoning. So he has more thoughts about the Russia speech.

Or, oh, I slipped with the tongue there. The UN speech. Yeah. And then he says some really awesome things about Russia. He's bad and undermines the UN and the EU. Yeah, big bloated, corrupt, anti-free speech, anti-America, anti-Christian, pro-Islamic, criminal organizations.

And they're the ones saying Trump's bad for wanting the country to be strong. How obvious is it who the traders are? And Russia's crime is their sovereign and their Christian. And they've pulled away from the clutches of the globalist and they've successfully repulsed Bolshevik Part II with Soros. And Soros wants the same Bolshevik Revolution

100 years later. They won it this October. They had it planned with Hillary. It's overrated. And it's blown up in their stinking faces. Let's go back to the clip of these absolute globalist operatives, enemy soldiers in the Info War against America.

Liars every one. Here they are. It was just over the top. It was, you know, it caused me to go back through and count how many times. And so he used that word sovereign or sovereignty 21 times. It was definitely the word. I mean, everyone-

So what does that mean? It's a sovereign. It just means what he was talking about from the beginning, which is America first. We're gonna go it alone. And the other nation should be independent and free to do what they want and together to fight, you know, what he called the wicked,

the wicked few I think he called it, the wicked ones. Yeah, like ISIS, yeah. You know, that really undermines to me the UN, which is where he was today, NATO, EU, places like that, international bodies. He was really sick. Shut up by the global. That's enough for her.

We know who the enemies are. And we're sick of you and Hollywood's imploding, mainstream media's imploding. Everyone who has any brain cells hates you. In fact, most your viewers know you're a fraud. They want to be you and want to be con artists. So they watch you like you're their mommy and you're under, you know, they're under your black wings

and they suck off your poisonous appendages. Now, before I go any further, we need funding. It's just, holy shit. Fuck you, Alex. God damn it. Isn't that great? How sharp can you turn? God damn under their black wings,

sucking poison from their appendages. By the way, we need funding. Jesus Christ. Lot of stuff is 50% off right now. Oh yeah? Easter sale? Yeah, totally. Gotcha.

Probably the pre-summer of rage sale. Yeah. I don't know, man. That's some wild bullshit. But also that, like, I mean, he's still peddling that narrative that Russia is great. I mean, he's just coming out with it now. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's fascinating that this is on the same story, same episode where he's doing that whole story about Drudge and how he's not in bed with Russia, but also Russia is fucking awesome. Yeah. Drudge is great. He should actually be more likely to say,

like, if he didn't have to- If he wasn't- No. If media matters didn't say it. If it had been Breitbart who was like, look at how many articles Drudge has linked to, Alex would have been like, look at how great it is that Drudge linked

to all of these articles. I would also argue that if Alex didn't, in his heart of hearts, suspect that something really fucked up was going on and he was a part of it, he would just be like, of course I like Russia. Yeah. Go fuck yourself.

He knows that something is pretty fucked up and that's why he has to- Yeah. I don't work for Russia. I'm not involved with them, except until we get to this clip. Oh, Jesus. So again,

I don't get my information from Russia. Russia gets their information from me. And I'm not bragging, it's a fact. They love Americana, they wanna be free. They understand we sent the Bolsheviks over there. It isn't that they actually follow everything I say, they just already know what I'm saying is true.

Wait, then how do they get- And it causes basically an affirmation. What's that? If they already know everything he says, how is it that they're getting their information from him? This is the same- That is a logical ridiculous- It's the same narrative that he spits about,

like the high end of the military loves me because they tune in because they already know the stuff I say. Yeah. And I'm the only person who says it. So they can hear me repeat what's true. But they're not getting their news from him. Right.

Is what they already know. But Alex doesn't have the news. That's- He doesn't do news. So fucking stupid. He does- So fucking stupid. He pitches pro-Russian narratives.

That's why people who are into Russia would like him. But this is an important distinction that we need to make because whenever we talk about Russia stuff, we always try and be careful and express that the Russian people are great and they're fine. It's the people in charge who are- I mean, except for the homophobic anti-gay gangs that murder people.

There are a bunch of them and that sucks. They're not great. There are a large proportion of the Russian people are just good people trying to get by. And the same way with the North Korean people. Right. Even the ones who are brainwashed, we feel an immense pity for.

People are good, oligarchs are bad. When Alex is talking about Russia, he's talking about the oligarchs. Yeah. He's not talking about the people. No. He's talking about the government of Russia. Yeah.

And that is fucked up. Here's the rest of this clip. I'm gonna scroll it back a tiny bit. Here we go. They just already know what I'm saying is true and it causes basically a affirmation to happen and for people to have solidarity. But, I mean, we've had top Putin advisors on

talking about how info wars has changed Russia. Info wars has changed their view. Info wars has helped give them the big picture. They've helped give us the big picture. And all of us together, the UK, Nigel Farage has said on this show three times that you kept exploded after info wars went into the UK. It's a fact.

Why does he say those things? We're winning the war because of you, the listeners. So that white nationalist organization got so much larger after info wars started spreading white nationalism. Yeah. After we got our whole group of weirdos involved with them.

Yeah. But the other thing that, I mean, what we're experiencing there is the success of a influence campaign. Yeah. Because these people like Alexander Dugan and whoever Alex has talked to behind the scenes have employed immense flattery

in order to make him think that he is super important and he's changed Russia. Yeah. He's just spitting back things that they are using to manipulate him into being super accommodating of their narratives. And maybe Drudge had the same thing happen to him. It's impossible, or not impossible,

it's possible that behind the scenes that might have happened there too. Their interest just dovetailed. Yeah. Like that's the hard part is, especially when we're talking about any kind of collusion narrative, it may just be...

The interests don't dovetail. Russia doesn't want the Americana that Alex wants. No, no, no, of course not. But Russia wants nationalism and Alex wants nationalism. Right. So ideologically, despite the fact that Russia is a hostile actor,

ideologically they line up. What Alex Jones and Drudge don't understand is that they are also hostile actors towards America. They're making America way worse. And they don't get that because they think that they're making it better. And they're hostile. And that's because they're fucking stupid.

And they're hostile actors towards a cooperative global scene. Yeah, they want... Genuinely, they just want war. Like that's what it seems like. Right, and quite literally, an explicit piece of the nationalism that they would seek for the rest of the world

would be Russia taking back the Soviet Union and then obviously not stopping there. Yeah, of course. Because if they take back the entire Soviet Union, they get Alaska. If you get a mouse of cookie. They get Alaska. Oh, and then they're probably going to...

Hey, Canada looks pretty cool. Right. Oh, wait, Russia is now at our borders. And maybe... A Russian Canada would be hilarious. It would be wild. That would be so funny. Very polite.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand that I'm speaking in like a wild hypothetical and... Oh, we're so sorry for taking Canada back. We're so sorry for taking Montana away from you. So that... That dipped into Irish at the end there. A little bit.

Yeah, not great. But the thing that I'm troubled by is I have solidarity with Russia. I'm saying that. Yeah. That's weird. So after this, Alex gets on to another narrative because he wants to make a little bit of a switch

from all of this. From being so blatantly pro-Russia. Yeah, so he gets mad about Jimmy Kimmel. Oh, Jimmy Kimmel, who's notoriously against letting kids die. Right. Yeah, he's pretty mad about this. And he's not mad about the... He doesn't play a clip of the stuff

about the senator who lied to Jimmy Kimmel. He plays a clip of Jimmy getting mad at a Fox News person for critiquing him for bringing his child into this discourse. Yeah. And so here's that. The only reason he's not a member of the Pollywood League is because nobody will hire him to be one.

And, you know, the reason I'm talking about this is because my son, an open-heart surgery, did up two more. And because of that, I learned that there are kids with no insurance in the same situation. I don't get anything out of this. Brian, you phony little creep. Oh, I'll f**k you when I see you.

That is... That is my brother. Using his kid to sell a program that'll bankrupt the country and take care of more children. Brian Kilmeade is a phony little creep. That's right. So two things. One, Alex is about to respond to this,

but two, Rex Jones, Alex's son, who was 13 at the time, at Bast, has done reports for infowars.com. Yeah. Using his kid to force his narrative out there. His other children, who are younger at the time, have appeared in a gorilla suit in a sketch mocking trans people on the Alex Jones show.

So please get off your goddamn high horse, Alex. You're full of s**t. Oh, kids, don't bring your kids into this. F**k you. F**k you and your nonsense. Now, do you think that Alex Jones can take that clip about Brian Kilmeade and Jimmy Kimmel saying he's a creep

and turn it to be about him? I think so. I think he's got a gift for that. Well, I want to tell Jimmy Kimmel something right now. Brian Kilmeade has more viewers than you do. Okay. Bulls**t me. I've been in major Hollywood films

and I've been offered starring roles on HBO. Starring roles on HBO. Everything. Everything. And guess what I do now? I don't even return the phone calls. Right. So he goes into a long rant.

Because those are drunk late night phone calls and making fun of you, Alex. Yeah, check the caller ID. It's probably coming from Trump's room at Mar-a-Lago. It's probably coming from Jimmy Kimmel back when he was on the man. Or Roger Stone. Yeah, exactly.

Trying to boost you up. So the other thing though is that he goes from there into a long rant about how like what I want to be is the image of John Wayne. Yeah. Like, all right, I've turned down movies. Everyone wants me to star in these Westerns

and spy thrillers, starring roles. I don't want to do that. What I like to do is I like to go and be in a B movie in Texas. That's fun for me. The only things on his fucking resume are the two Linklater movies in Amerageddon. So I don't know what he's talking about.

If you wants to call Amerageddon a B movie, kind of agree. I would not call it a B movie. A B movie has Bruce Campbell in it. Fair enough. A D movie has Alex Jones in it. Or not a movie has Alex Jones in it. Straight to video. So it goes on for quite a while.

So I've cut out the middle where he's just sort of talking shit. And we get to this where he's still talking about turning down offers. And then he gets really fucking creepy. And any complaints that you have about Jimmy using his kids, I think they should be outweighed by how bad this is.

I'm going to go to any of them. And we've had offers before to go on these shows. I piss on your, you're not real shows. You're frauds. You're crap. You're the enemy. You're cancer. You're grandma dying of a heart attack.

You're grandpa with a brain tumor. You're failure. You're betrayal. You're anathema. You're a blaspheme. Give two more examples. At this point, he puts on a face like, kind of like that,

like either outraged or he's orgasmic at what he's about to say. Oh no. And I think it's the latter. I don't want to hear what he's about to say. And you will fall. You're already falling right now. I'm sorry for your son.

Did you want to take the vaccines? Fuck you. I've been slurping that tap water. Why don't you find out why this is happening? Why don't you actually save other kids? Instead of using your kid to bring in socialism and globalist control. Now you're using his dumb moronic idiot.

Fuck you. Fuck you. Fucking un... Yeah. God damn it, Alex. You're the dumbest fucking person in the world. Well, he doesn't, he doesn't understand logic.

He doesn't understand that like that, which I was complaining about, I am now doing the worst version of. Yeah. It's crazy. Jesus Christ. Yeah. I'm using your kid to fight against compassion.

Right. Cause I hate it. And to pitch my vaccine bullshit. Yeah. It's wild. It's wild stuff. I think he also threatens violence on Jimmy at some point. Right.

Which is great. Cause the whole point was he was, you know, mad that Jimmy was threatening Brian Kilmeade. Right, right. All right. So we got one more clip. And it's when our old friend, Larry Nichols. Stevie Larry Nichols coming back.

He shows up on the show. And it's just a repeat of stuff he's already said. It's a really boring interview until we get to this point. And Larry Nichols says something on the air that I think is illegal. Okay. I think this is illegal.

I'm not sure. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that this is at very least a threat. And we can discuss it on the other end once you hear it, but I'm not comfortable with this being legal. Okay. They are all lockstep in mutiny.

So what do we, the people do? It's talking about Republicans in Congress. First off, I want to make a statement if I may to the Republicans. To every Republican in the house of representatives, I make this pledge to you today, right here without a field. I will use the information that I have

on every one of you. Every one of you and I will destroy every one of you. There is that big problem. The problem now is with Republicans. Is their conservative supposedly, their moral supposedly, their Christians supposedly. And most of them, they put sex ops on them. Most of them are cheating on their wives.

And the worst, cheating on their wives. I know who their girlfriends are or more friends. I know who their illegitimate babies are. I know which ones are alcoholics, which ones are druggies, even what their drugs and preference are. So here's the promise Republicans.

Very soon, you're going to receive thousands, thousands of phone calls in your state office and your national office, federal office in Washington. And it's going to be people reading the script, telling you that you must stop the impeachment of President Trump. They all know it's a bogus case. Everyone knows it.

And if they don't, if they don't, I pledge right here on the word that I gave Bill Clinton in 1990, I'll destroy you. And I don't mean just keep up with me. And all of us give that pledge. And you did tell underneath that, underneath that overpass down by the river

where they buried the bodies. Damn pure dead. So we'll get back. He has, he's not done, he's not done. How great would it be if Larry Nichols winds up taking down the Republican party? How fucking hilarious would that be? It would be crazy.

Like he would save healthcare for so many people. Yeah. So the legal definition of black male is an act often criminal involving unjustified threats to make a gain, most commonly money or property, or cause a loss to another unless a demand is met. That's literally black. I think that's the definition of black.

He literally is trying to blackmail Congress on the show. That's fantastic. This is crazy. I still don't think like, I think he should suffer some consequences for this, even though it's idle threats. Yeah. He doesn't have shit.

He didn't have shit on the Clintons either. He said that he fucking killed people for Bill and Hillary on a radio show. And then later said, I was on pills. Yeah, yeah, exactly. He's full of shit about everything. He got fired by the Clintons because he was fucking involved in Iran,

Contra, and got caught making long distance calls to Nicaragua, and then he pretends that he's like, oh no, I had a coming to Jesus moment. I realized I couldn't be involved with this evil. You repackaged cancer having piece of shit. You manipulative asshole. Like, great. We're gonna have to give him a call.

Turn your attention towards the Republicans. God bless you. Yeah. That will be fun, at least. Yeah, yeah, that'll be fun for us. At least it'll be a fun charade where I don't really care. Right.

I don't care. You're going after these people that like, okay, you bring down Paul Ryan. I mean, you're not going to, but trying to bring down Paul Ryan. Too funny. Great. Too funny.

Do it, please. So hold on. The rest of the clip is gonna play out. Alex is gonna scream about some stuff, and then Larry's gonna make another threat. And I'm telling them off. You don't believe I'll do it. You better dial 1-800-BILLY-HILLARY-20 and ask them.

But let me throw this out right now. Hold on. You are 100% correct. 1-800-BILLY-HILLARY-20. 8 months. Too many letters. They're gonna cook it up. They never found any rushes,

and now it's gonna be taxes. It's gonna be phone-sized blood. This or that. And I didn't dot a T didn't cross. They now admit that. They don't. And they're going, as dirty as Mueller,

and as dirty as Comey are with all their criminal cover-ups, Hillary doesn't get in trouble. None of them do. It's Trump with made-up crap. We, you're right. We can't wait to get on this impeachment once it starts.

We've gotta be hammering them now every day. Hammer, hammer, hammer. You're not gonna overturn our election. You're not gonna, just like a jury can veto a judge or whatever. We have gotta have the American people know are we voted Trump in, not the Russians. And we're vetoing Mueller,

and we're vetoing all these traders. They say he's evil for saying America first. Wait, you're making weird faces. I wanna... Is it a Larry Nichols hotline? No, it's an actual number. What is it? If you or someone in your house

is suffering from something, press one for yes, two for no. I'm gonna guess that it's a different acronym. The number is 1-800-245-526-344-5527. Too many numbers. 9254-6866. If anybody would like to call that and see exactly what just happened there.

That's the equivalent of call 1-900-Mix-A-Lot. Oh, it's fantastic. It's those nasty thoughts. It's fantastic. So here we go. Here's the end of this with Nichols. At the UN. They're obviously the enemies.

Good Lord. That's why they're pissed is because we have an American president. And it doesn't mean he's perfect, but he's not out to get the country. And that's why they hating. Dog whistle. We have Americans.

Don't believe that I haven't been able to acquire a whole bunch of dirt on you, buddy. Now I know. Alex, I know they're gonna destroy me. Which is tough. He just threatened. He just blackmailed Mueller. He just threatened to blackmail Mueller.

Yep, yep. That's definitely not good. That's definitely not good. That legitimately might constitute obstruction of justice. I think it might. That, I mean, I know, again, it's idle threats. He has nothing. But at the same time, you can't do stuff like this.

You can't claim that you have some sort of mysterious information. If you don't do what I say, I'm gonna release it. Jesus. That's literal blackmail. That's so crazy. I mean, that is a crime. I mean, in all honesty, he is probably on pills though.

Probably on pills. He's definitely on pills. If you didn't have to go to your show, we really should call him. Oh, absolutely. Maybe we'll do it over the weekend. We'll do it over the weekend for sure. But God, I love that.

Like Larry Nichols for all his faults is a fucking showman. Yeah. He knows we're having a boring segment here. I got to really spice this thing up. I got to do something. Oh, I guess I'll just threaten people and commit crimes on air. Like I legitimately feel like we should send that to the FBI. I think that's a crime.

I think we should call the, on our next show, we're going to call Larry Nichols and we're going to ask him whether or not he has actual shit on the Republican Party. No, why not? He would say yes. I'm not going to tell you because if I did, they wouldn't do what I say. I kind of want to, I kind of want to do it anyways.

We'll call him maybe. I kind of want to do it anyway. He's not going to talk to us if we tell him he's on the air. I bet he will. All right. He's dying. He doesn't give a fuck. He just, he just threatened a black male Congress.

Why the fuck wouldn't he talk to us? He's saying batshit. And a special prosecutor. Yeah, I know fucking. I'm sure he'll talk to us. Yeah, probably. That'd be fun. All right.

So that's a cliffhanger. Promise cliffhanger. Absolutely. We'll see what happens with that over the weekend. Yep. But also after that, Larry, I told you this before the show because it's just so funny. He's like, look, I don't want to have to do it,

but we're going to burn some people. So good. Yes. So good. Such a great development in the Larry Nichols arc. Absolutely. I hope he doesn't die before the end of the season. I hope he doesn't die before we call him.

I want the season to play out. I don't want it to be a thing where the show gets canceled midseason. Right. We're never going to know how this plays out. Who did shoot JR? Although, you know what? They're going to drop this.

Oh, of course. Because this will never be spoken of again. But I'm shocked it was not edited out. Then it wasn't edited out. Because they don't care. Buckley is probably going to talk to Alex and be like, dude, I talked to our lawyer and they said, don't do that again.

You know how you have to say politically when you threaten people, you can't have Larry Nichols committing crimes on on air. I know you didn't say it. I think that might be one of the more fun. I think that might be the reason that they have no problem with it is they're just like, oh, yeah, let Nichols hang himself.

Who gives a shit about him? I think Alex has some culpability in it. By saying, I think it's a good idea. Signing off on it. We make the same pledge. Nah. Oh, that's true. He did say that.

And at the same time, I think because you're broadcasting a crime, I think that you may have some culpability. You're at least complicit in some ways. So anyway, I'll research the legal standard of getting someone in trouble for Blackmail. But until I figure that out, you can check us out at our website, knowledgefight.com.

Actually, on knowledgefight.com, I will be writing a political blog. It's called AJ Adjacent because I can't help a pun. You can find that on our website. We have a stuff to enjoy header at the top of the site. Drop down menu, boom, right in there. I'll be posting something every Thursday and then maybe more depending.

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Right. And I apologize to everybody with the live stream stuff. We will be getting back to that. My internet is so crappy because the router is all the way across the house. And the range extender sucks. I'm trying to find chords to fix everything up so we can have consistent product.

I don't want to be putting this half ass out there. I don't want these. Like the other night, we recorded one and the internet went out halfway through and complete disaster. So deflating. Do you know what that was, though? That was the spiritual equivalent of not hanging up

a picture. It kind of is. Oh, also, by the way, John Rappaport was on on Thursday. Oh, OK. On the 21st. Yeah. I got to listen to a little bit of that weirdo. He made this really fucking stupid claim.

He was like, how many I can't even do a toothless voice. Yeah. How many prescriptions do you think doctors prescribe a year in the United States? 20. Low. That's low. It's about 4 billion, according to John Rappaport.

And one of the things that I would like to say is that's not surprising at all. So wait. Yeah. No, that sounds. When I had that cyst in my jaw line area, I ended up getting five prescriptions for that. Maybe six.

Yeah. And when you get it, anyone who's pregnant gets multiple prescriptions for all sorts of vitamins, all sorts of prenatal, postnatal care. Which they won't be able to afford from now on. Right. Anytime anyone gets strep throat, mono, any of those things, multiple prescriptions,

anytime someone gets hurt or undergoes surgery, they get painkiller prescriptions. It's so fucking stupid. The idea that there's four billion prescriptions made makes total sense. Yeah. That's so dumb. So what would you like to say to them?

Fuck you and your misuse of statistics. You dumb, muppet looking piece of shit, John Rappaport. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.