Knowledge Fight - #858: October 7, 2023

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

In this installment, Dan and Jordan wrestle with a baffling and inappropriate "emergency" "special" "report" that Alex put out on Saturday.  Jordan is left bewildered, as Alex shocks in new and unexpected ways.

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quite a while. For us anything longer than five days in a absurd length of time. I think it's about a week. Yeah. Maybe because we recorded the one after we got back. Yep. And so yeah, it's been about eight days. Maybe a little over a week. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but too long. Too long. Five days is the correct amount of a maximum. Yeah. It's nice for me because I did take a little bit of time to myself Interesting to play some video games and what I like it. I like it And do a little bit of work around the house, but other than that I was still working Yeah, to put out the episode of course, and then also that leads me to my bright spot. Hmm. So During the time that we were in the UK,

it was wonderful. And meeting people and having a chance to see the way that people interact with our show was incredibly valuable. And when we were at QED, talking to both the organizers of the festival, people who were really involved in that. And then also people who were attendees, getting

a sense and a real feeling from them was eye-opening in some ways. It was. And one of the things that I've realized in the time, including the trip, and since we have taken a little bit of time off here, I need focus. I need a central focus. Uh-huh. And I think I found my mission statement that will guide the next chapter of our podcast. Okay. And my professional career. This is like whenever you're watching a movie and like 45 minutes into it, they get the title card. Yeah. Or I felt the Assassin's Creed Odyssey.

Right. Like I thought it was halfway through the game. Oh, and then it's, oh, oh my God, it just started. Holy shit. Um, I, yeah, I figured out what I want the next bit of my life to be about. And that is I want to destroy Alex's career. Okay.

Now, not in terms of the future, I will leave the courts to that. Sure. They will take care of that on their own. Ryan Alex is self-destructive enough that he's gonna destroy his own career. Sure. I want to destroy his legacy.

You want to dismantle it brick by brick. Exactly. So every hashtag Alex Jones will end before it was right. I want to, and I'm going to make it my business and personal mission, to destroy everything he's created. Yeah. And the way I conceive of that is similar to the end game breakdown that we did. I feel like anybody who takes that film seriously needs only listen to our podcast or look at the

bibliography that is a breakdown of his bibliography to realize you should not take this seriously. I would like to and I intend to create this for every piece of work that he has put out, not necessarily his every episode of his show because that's kind of what the podcast is. Sure, sure, sure, sure. But I am going to dismantle these works that he has put out. And the first is the great reset book that he put out. Right.

I am going to trash that thing. Okay. And so that's the next thing on my horizon. Yeah. Alex has a new book coming out, which you've mentioned. Right. And I hope to have this done and out by the time his new book comes out. Yeah. Yeah. So I can destroy that too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of things that we do to avoid working on our own books, right?

Well, in some ways, this is right. Another book that I'm working on. Exactly. So it will be booked for sure. That is definitely true. It will be booked for sure. That is definitely true. As it stands now, the way it works, and I have been approaching this, is a page by page breakdown of his book, and it will be thorough. Exhaustive. It will be fine tooth comb.

Yeah. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll be intense. So then I was thinking about other things, and obviously, do you have to double back on some of his older documentaries and stuff. And so I'm thinking of ways to conceive of those projects, possibly a video kind of work like we have his documentary on and then I'll pop up. That'd be fun. Like a little VH1 pop-up video kind of situation. All right.

Yeah. So that is my vision. Your raison d'être. Yeah. I'm going into the sake of change the podcast, necessarily, but it's just going to be this is a focus. What we're doing. I feel like it's what I can do that is valuable to people and valuable to the information space that I want to nurture

and cultivate. And so count on that. Good. Believe in the shield. Or something. All right. So what's your bright spot? My bright spot is a far less professional. My wife celebrated her birthday. We celebrated her birthday. We celebrated her birthday. We we had a great day

You know did very little actual stuff and then had a great dinner all fresh stuff cooked it together Fantastic great great great stuff lovely time low key. Yeah, we were a little bit I mean part of the problem is we're a little under the weather. You know had some sore throat You know we've all I mean we've all recently had a little bit of I mean, part of the problem is we're a little under the weather. You know, had some sore throat. Uh-oh. We've all, I mean, we've all recently had a little bit of weather stuff. And I mean, you take a year has been insane. It has been nuts.

Yeah. It has been nuts. It was like 70 and then 40 and then 60. And now it's 50. No, and it is, it is like, oh, I'm so shocked. We have sinus issues. Whenever we're from Illinois and it's going from 80 to 40 in an hour. And you're like, oh yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah. Yeah, we're not supposed to live like this. Yeah, it was actually kind of fortuitous timing for me, us not recording because I got fairly sick. Sure. Not COVID. Checked out on that. But yeah, I was at a point where it actually even hurt

to talk kind of. And so yeah, I'm sorry all are dealing with that I mean we were we had a little bit of that. I mean it is it is so it's so weird It's not funny, but it is weird to be like I'm sick, but not with COVID like do we even still have other diseases? Yeah, I mean it's been such a central focus of health Yeah, yeah, yeah. Matters for so long that it is, it is strange to get sick with something else. Yeah, and you're, and it is like, it is both such a huge relief. And then at the same time, wait a second, I don't even know, you know, like the COVID test is negative.

And you're like, yeah, I don't have COVID. And then you're like, wait, I don't know what the fuck I do have. Oh, no. Good news, bad news. Yeah, exactly. Also, I had a fun moment when I was sick. Uh-huh, or after I was sick. I, I don't know if it's right for me to associate necessarily the flavored vapes

that I've gotten with getting sick, but I feel like they make my throat feel bad. Yeah. I have gotten a couple of this brand, which I will not name for the sake of not giving bad pressure. Maybe it's my, maybe it's my body. Whatever. But the last couple times that I've bought this brand, I've got, I felt not well afterwards. And so I went into the Vapeshop and previous bright spot, the guy at the Vapeshop was there. And I was like, I think those, those flavored ones, they're, you know, they're great. They're fun But I think they make me sick is like no no no don't play in the face The weather's been crazy

I like that I like that he's not wrong But also come on man. Yeah, these are these are not as regulated as anybody wants them to be no No, no face that right out the game. It was so fun that it felt like he had like a steak. Yeah, while you see runs a fake store. Of course he has a steak in it. But he doesn't care what one I bought. No, that's definitely true. But he seemed to care. I mean, it's listen, if one vape is bad, then it brings the whole that a rising tide lifts up votes. It's you know, it's a net net law. Absolutely. Totally. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. Okay. We're going to be talking about Alex's emergency Saturday, October 7th show.

Right. And, you know, there's some difficulty, obviously, because the emergency is in reference to the outbreak of violence in Israel and the Gaza Strip. Yeah. And, you know, that's a tough situation to talk about just in general. Sure. And then when you're talking about it through the prism of Alex's content, it becomes even more so. And I don't like this episode.

Yeah. I told you before we started, it's one of the most frustrating, infuriating episodes. I've listened to in a very long time and you'll see why as we go through it, but it almost made me throw something. Yeah. I believe it. No, I mean, it is weird because I don't know how to... I was trying to like get in the mind of the anti-Semites and how they would react to this

and it's like, I don't know because they hate Jews mind of the anti-Semites and how they would react to this and it's like I Don't know because they they hate Jews obviously anti-Semites sure and at the same time though they like right-wing Dictatorships and it feels like this is where Israel is gonna go, you know So like I'm interested to see where we where we wind up with this In terms of Alex I think he has far wider weirdness than maybe you're run of the mill person in his extreme right wing sector. And I think that there are people who are not to say that they're good or bad,

they're bad, but are people who have more thought out positions than Alex? Yeah, that I believe. And those are people that you could expect some kind of like Interesting, I guess response in a negative way. Interesting. Yeah, where is with Alex? He's so Unthoughtful.

Yeah, it's it's got to be all over the place, right? And it is to some extent. Yeah, um, but I don't think we're gonna get into the events as much as people might expect. I'm not at all surprised by that. And I don't know. We'll get down to business on this. But first Jordan, let's take a little moment

to say hello to some new ones. Oh, that's great idea. So first, the Canadian jurist. Thank you so much, you're an outpullesy-wong policy wonk. Thank you very much. Next, and be an occupy Texas. Oh, and fuck you, John Rappaport. Thank you so much. You're an outpullsy. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Okay, next, Will's pronounced like Willis. I'm just related to some lazy Belgians. Thank you so much. You're an outpullsy. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Oh Le Beljeek. That's how you say Belgian in French. I they don't say it like that way. They're too lazy. Oh they don't and they don't end the word It was not a lazy Belgian who her cube poireau

He's almost too busy Gray cells are too busy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Next I'm a children's librarian So now baby shark const me in two different ways the original and the Alex Jones cover Thank you so much you're an out policy wonk. I'm a policy won librarian. So now Baby Shark const me in two different ways. The original and the Alex Jones cover. Thank you so much. You're an outpost. You want? I'm a policy won't thank you very much. I didn't realize that Baby Shark was a literary thing. I had no idea. I thought it was just the song. Maybe it was a commercial. I've never looked into it. I've never looked into it either. I refuse on principle. I guess just just out of like spite. on principle, I guess, just out of like, spite. Uh, and Dan from Tauma Renui, uh, pronounced Toa Mar-e-nu-e. I was pretty close.

You were pretty close. You are now policy-wong. I'm a policy-wong. Thank you very much. Some of those, uh, uh, words that are kind of close to Hawaiian or Polynesians. Yeah, yeah. I think I can handle those a little better than others, just based on my, uh, my childhood. I was, that's why I was interested. That one I was interested in to see how you did.

Because I was reading the phonetic and I was like, I think, damn, I'd be able to get this one sight unseen. You throw in like Scandinavian words. I'm lost. You're not a consonant guy. Yeah. You're not a big consonant guy. Especially when it's like J's and K's and Z's. Consonant guy. Yeah, you're not a big continent. Yeah, it's like J's and K's and Z's I don't know what to do. Yeah, and then with the UK with your pronunciation Spellwords right we got a technocrat in the mix. Okay, so much to racist teacup. You're now a technocrat I'm a policy walk The home team on the teller you throw it someone someone satamite sent me a book in a poop daddy shark Tell it you throw it in someone someone satamite sent me a book in a poop daddy shark

Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little kitty baby I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you very much so obviously This this is a complicated So obviously this is a complicated circumstance in the world. And I don't believe that it does anything to sway my belief that Palestinian liberation is important. Sure. And necessary. I don't think that killing civilians is a way to go about it. I think that the mass is way out of line, and this is atrocious. And I think that Israel is also atrocious

for what they're doing in response. I don't know how else to discuss this or to make a position clear. I don't know enough to speak competently and competently about this, but those are sort of my, some broad feelings that I have. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to come up like I come away with it. Thusley.

This benefits only two groups of people, the Netanyahu, genociders and the Ayatola genociders and the people that have nothing to do with it are the ones who are going to die. Yes. Over and over and over again. So yeah. And that is an unacceptable state of affairs. It just really is. And that is something that I think a lot of the, not necessarily a lot of the more sort of thoughtful analysis,

but a lot of the responses that I've seen, particularly on social media, lose track of like that, the unacceptable status quo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I just, I don't have, I don't have a solution. I don't have, I mean, I don't have any deeper insight than other people.

I saw a couple of points made wrongly and insanely, but that actually have a very important kernel of truth in them. And that was people being like, oh, this is 9-11 Remember where we were on 9-12 that kind of thing, right? And I think that is a really really good way to look at this. On 9-12, everybody in the United States was so fucking stupid and so Absolutely emotionally wrecked that we went for the next 20 years believing a bunch of idiots in committing genocide.

It killed countless civilians unnecessarily. Did not achieve any particular goal. For no reason. We spent trillions upon trillions of dollars that could have gone towards climate change and said went towards making it worse and killing people right so wherever you land on like What is happening in the current situation? What what blood you want or revenge or restorative justice or nothing whatever you want out of the moment What is going to happen is there's a good chance you're gonna allow these monsters to run roughshod over the world for the next 20 years.

It's unfortunate, yeah. It's a tragic situation on all fronts. Yeah. For the people who suffer and that is the, I think the most primary thing. Yeah, I would say this, this is the primary thing to me. It is the government of Israel and it is the government of fucking Iran

that are fighting this. And all the people are dying. Well, now you're gonna get into sounding a little bit like Alex. Sure, in saying that this was an attack, particularly by Iran. I mean, no, I mean, as far as that goes, I don't know. I don't know who like orchestrated any of this.

This has nothing to do with plans or like, was there a false flag or did they know or any of that stuff? I'm talking about purely from the outcomes. You know what I mean? There's no outcome that benefits quote the people. There's no outcome that makes people safer. So long as the people in charge are in charge, you know. That is true. Yeah. And there is not like a position that I have that's like Israel needs to stop existing. Sure.

That is absolutely not the position. It just can't treat the Palestinians like the way that it has. And, you know, Palestinians should be free, but that doesn't mean that terrorists should be outkilling civilians. That's not, not that's okay. Yeah. I don't know. It's, I find myself least competent in situations like this.

And so let's get to Alex. Let's do it. Let's jump to this as he opens the news day. Well, the crew was gonna get a day off today, but I called him and they came in, and I really appreciate them, because I woke up at about five AM this morning, and Hezbollah slash Iran had launched a massive attack in the south of Israel and the central areas

and in the north with kamikaze paragliders with kamikaze drones with thousands over 5,000 missiles biggest attack on Israel in decades. Now, there's a lot of news and a lot of coverage of this. In less than 10 hours, we've seen more coverage of what's happening in Israel than what we've seen in a year and a half in the exploding war between NATO and Russia in Ukraine. Weird. That is weird. It seems unnecessary to bring that up, but Alex can't help but take some jabs to weave other conspiracies into this because that's kind of what he does.

Yeah. Also, I think you might say Hamas. I was going to say it would make more sense for it to be Hamas than Hezbollah, but yeah. What you're going to do? Hezbollah operates out of Lebanon to the north of Israel and they did take credit for firing some rockets But they were into disputed territory and not necessarily to central to the matter of the day Shesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesheshesh you are, you know, Ezbal is backed by Iran. Yeah. They helped coordinate this attack. Sure. But US officials have said that they haven't seen

information confirming these claims and is not established. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You may want to say that it's possible, but for Alex to lead his coverage, like this is very inaccurate and irresponsible. Yeah. 100%.

But that's what he's about. That's what he does. That's what he does. Yeah. So you were, you accurately, I think, smelled some of what this some of the conversation might be, in terms of false flags. Yeah. Yeah. And stuff. Yeah. So here's where Alex is at. Okay. Before I drill through all what's currently happening, let's let's get the big takeaways here. First off, and I'm not attacking Israel here,

but I'm stating a fact, there is no way that Shinbeth and the Masad did not know that Iran, who's running this, was gearing up for this. This is a massive attack with tens of thousands of malicious soldiers, over 5,000 missiles and growing hundreds of men on paragliders coming in, groups in motorcycles and bulldozers smashing through barbed wire and walls, this is massive. And of course they struck during the Sabbath on Saturday when they would have lower levels of security forces.

But if you don't think that that border between Gaza Strip and Israel isn't the most militarized of the planet, you're not informed. So I'm not saying that isn't a real Hezbollah attack. I'm not saying Iran isn't behind it. Of course they are. I think it's terrible situation. Wait, wait, wait. It's getting out of control. But the big takeaway here is they're calling it the biggest intelligence

failure in Israeli history, just like 9-11, the biggest intelligence failure in US history. But they had nothing but thousands of warnings and knew the exact specifics and there were stand-downs taken. This will definitely help Benjamin yet in Yahoo who was about to be out of power. So you can say that this plays into Netanyahu's sort of mode of operation, but at the same time you're seeing in the much of the Israeli press disapproval with Netanyahu. And so maybe it doesn't play into his overall thing. That being said, Alex is just making up. This is a stand down.

It's like his version of what happened on 9-11 that Masad and Shen bet this happened. That's what he's angling at. Right. Well, I mean, I think what I've been thinking about that is that it is such an interesting question to me, not because, did they know blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What matters is that it did happen, right?

So you have two options now. You have either they had information, you've got more than two options, you know, they've got, they had information, you've got more than two options, you know, they've got, they had information and they deliberately ignored it to see, you know, to achieve the outcome that they desired. Right. They had information, but couldn't understand it or couldn't parse it in such a way that made it useful. Right. Or they didn't have information or a third option, which is, I mean, that was the third option. Yeah. What a lot of what I've been seeing is that there were warnings that came in that were general in a sense. And Netanyahu's government was too focused on issues in the West

Bank where there had been outbreaks of violence that the a lot of the attention was there. Additionally, a lot of attention is being put on this judicial reform, the Netanyahu was trying to pass, and they underestimated what could be organized within Gaza. Right. And that is a completely plausible explanation for an intelligence failure. You don't need to say they let this happen just based on it being unlikely. Right. Now, the thing about any of those outcomes though, right. The thing about any of those answers is that they do all continue to point back to it is a complete waste of money.

And so either it's almost like I would rather, I mean, I kind of understand, I would almost rather it be a false flag because then at least I know that the intelligence operatives have a use and are competent, you know? Like the way it is so far, every opportunity I've seen for the intelligence community to do something useful, they have fucked up so hard, but every time they've had an opportunity to fuck people over,

they've done a great job of doing that. So what is the money going to? And that's kind of the situation that you wind up in. And I guess the system would say that that's a function of the when things go bad, it's very publicized. So funny how the system and when things don't go bad, it doesn't get any press. That's crazy how the system justifies itself right So that that would be the argument. I guess that would come there sure But yeah, I think what you're putting your finger on is one of the reasons that those false flag type conspiracies are very Comforting to people is because they retain the image of absolute Competence in things like the intelligence

organizations that could keep us safe. Yeah, I mean, ultimately you have to keep coming back to, I keep coming back to as far as all of the intelligence agencies are concerned when it comes to what they are sold to me as doing, which is protecting us by gathering information and then, you know, stopping things before they happen. That sales pitch is the exact opposite from what they do, which is not any of that, and they choose information to fuck people over with. It's, I mean, it's tough to argue with that.

Yeah. I'm sure there's some other things. But anyway, the point is that Alex is that's his editorial line that he's taking is that this was allowed to happen in order to bring in new world order stuff. Sure, sure. And also Biden's to blame. Interesting. There's a lot of moving parts here, but let's pull back from those. Those are big, but they're still penultimate, meaning not the number one issue. The number one issue is Biden gave $6 billion last month of frozen assets to Iran. President Trump predicted, and I have his predictions right here, that within a few months, Iran

would attack Israel. We got footage in Tehran that's on screen where they were celebrating. So, in exchange for the release of wrongly detained Americans, Biden did unfree $6 billion that belonged to Iran. This was money that was stuck in a South Korean bank and represented proceeds from the sale of Iranian oil. I've seen a lot of people saying it's tax payer money and stuff like that. It's just nonsense. Yeah, whatever. Part of the arrangement was that Iran could only use this unfrozen asset, this amount, for quote, things like food medicine, medical equipment,

and the like, according to Secretary of State Anthony Blinken. And the unfreezing, the account is also wholly regulated by the US Treasury Department. So funds couldn't be dispensed to support groups like Hamas or Hezbollah. Now at the same time, you know, people like Alex would say, yeah, the other funds are then diverted to support these groups. And then this money makes up the shortfall. And then I guess the argument is just don't let anybody have any money. Ever. I, I don't know.

I'm for disbanding any and all governments. So I suppose that's my position. Oh boy. Also Alex doesn't know what penultimate means. Nope. And you could dispute the wisdom of negotiating for hostages or if unfreezing these funds was the appropriate thing to do. But it's an incredible reach to make a connection

between this act and the recent attack. Yeah. I don't think that is appropriate. And Alex just needs a way to blame Biden. Yeah, I mean, that's weak tea. That's weak tea. You're not gonna get me to Biden negotiated a hostage release. Soley in order to give Iran enough money

to finance an attack on Israel. That's not gonna happen. Nope, you're not gonna sell me on that one. So bare minimum. Bare minimum. There's a conspiracy going on. Well, obviously. Bare minimum, the Israeli military and Assad

knew that a big buildup was coming in. They may not have known the exact moment, but there's no way to have tens of thousands of people that participated in this. Tens of thousands on the Arab side, on the Muslim side, on the Palestinian side, on the Iranian side, on the side of the occupied areas, or unoccupied, or those different zones with the expanding Jewish settlements going into them. So no one can debate that Benjamin Netanyahu was given

briefings in the last week that an imminent attack, a massive attack was coming. They've got Arab spies all over the Gaza Strip to the South and the go-on heights to the North and all the rest of it. You can't swing a stick in the dark and not hit an Israeli asset. Okay. So the fact that the Israelis didn't know this was coming is Baldr Dash. Baldr Dash.

Baldr Dash. Um, so I mean Alex can say whatever he wants about the human spy potential, but from other things that I've been reading, you know, folks, particularly even folks within the Israeli government, they've talked about how there's been an over reliance on surveillance capabilities, particularly in the Gaza area. Israel relied heavily on technological superiority and from comments that I've heard, you know, Amos just used that against them by issuing things like technology

when they were planning meetings and stuff. Oh, yeah, they put their phones in the goddamn fridge. From what I can tell and things that I've read, it is not a situation where there are spies around every corner. And in fact, the human intelligence aspect of Israeli penetration into Gaza is fairly limited compared to what they've relied on in terms of drones.

If your enemy's digital fight analog. Basically, yes. And so I don't know. I think that Alex is also superimposing, talking points about 9-11 onto this. Like it's certain that Netanyahu had a brief that imminent attack. That's just using the language of 9-11 stuff in bush. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that Alex can back this up. That is the thing that should give all of us the most pause of, and like, anytime somebody

starts throwing 9-11 rhetoric around, everyone should stop, be like, somebody's fucking up here. We need to, we need to slow it down, cool it down. Nobody can talk like this ever again. Or, you know, at very least, if you're using 9-11 rhetoric in such, let's make sure that your thoughts aren't drifting into the solutions that were used after 9-11. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least, at least show some indication that you learned some lessons from the post 9-11. Yeah, yeah. At least show some indication that you learned some lessons

from the post 9-11 period. Which I despair of ever seeing. So I like to say as a prediction of what's gonna happen. Okay. And I mean, obviously in the days since we've seen, we, you know, turning off the electricity in Gaza and atrocities against civilians. Yeah. And that's all very horrible. And Alex's version of it is a little bit less grounded. Now let's talk

big picture. When this minute I woke up this morning and saw this, I thought, wow, Iran is trying to draw Israel into a full war. They think they're ready. And sure enough later, the Mullah, the Mullahs were like, we want a full war with Israel. We're ready. Why are they ready? I was told by high level individuals over a decade ago that Iran already has atomic bombs. And that's one reason Israel and the US haven't moved against them. It's all we got to stop them from getting a bomb. You know technically, that checker said, Jones is wrong.

Iran doesn't have a bomb. I saw a guy on Joe Rogan last month attacking me saying, Jones says a lot of stuff is true, but I heard him say a decade ago that Iran has atomic bombs. Well, buddy, you don't know people flying around in the airplanes and that have access to the satellites like I do who told me they have the signature scanners, particle scanners that tell them that they've got atomic bombs. Okay. And so we'll just see who's writing again. But the point is to all the fools that don't think Iran has nuclear weapons, no one knew India had him for a long time. No one knew Pakistan

had him for a long time decades ago and turn out they'd had him for decades. And you don't think it's only Americans in the 1940s that can make an atomic bomb. They got smart people where they're aliens. The Persians are smart, the Indians are smart, the Chinese are smart, the Pakistanis are smart. They got some of the best mathematicians, okay? So we kind of get arrogant here in the West and think brown people can't come up with weapons and that's of course crap, okay? That's not an arrogance of the West, that's a thought of racists. That, uh, I think Alex is explaining that us racists sometimes minimize what we think brown people are capable of doing intellectually, and we should maybe not think that way.

Let's hold on to our racism, but realize that, uh, that's fucked up. There, that, that is, I mean, you know, if you get to this place where you say, our greatest weakness as racists is the inevitability of underestimating our theoretical quote enemy, right? By very, by the very nature of what we believe. Yes. Our beliefs are inaccurate when it comes to exactly the people we are looking down upon.

You should at the very least be able to go, hmm, maybe. And then from that. It certainly calls into question first assumption. You think, yep, you think. So, uh, uh, Iran apparently has nukes, uh, which, uh, is, uh, contestable. Certainly. Uh, and Alex says it says it's a

certainty. Mm-hmm. But everybody has nukes. Here's the bigger takeaway. We're officially told that Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons. They've had nuclear weapons since 1964, at least. They've got thousands of them, and they've got submarines, and they've got fighter bombers, and they've got cruise missiles, and they've got thousands of nuclear warheads. Israel is arguably the fifth largest nuclear power in the world. So let's just get

that straight too. And we can have somebody go on Joe Rogan and say Alex Jones doesn't know what he's talking about. Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons. Yes they do. Let me tell you something else. Saudi Arabia has nuclear weapons. They've had them for at least 30 years. All right, so many people believe that Israel does possess nuclear weapons, although the specifics around the matter and their program aren't known. Yeah. Alex isn't fairly safe territory asserting a belief that Israel has nukes.

I don't think people would really be like that. Like, the official position that a lot of folks, especially higher ups have is that like, it's pretty likely but the broke the israel doesn't they won't confirm or deny the existence of uh... nukes in their arsenal uh... who cares but saudi rabie is another matter sure that's a very hotly contested claim that i'll just make it oh yeah they do not have nukes by uh... all estimates that i've been able to uh... find i mean i've i've, I find interesting about it,

is that is like the more I think about it, the more it is a complete waste of time and money just to even have nukes or talk about them. Because the oldie outcome is either everyone dies quickly or everyone dies slowly. The using any of them is pointless. Right. You know, so it's like, fine, you can have them.

It's great, but it doesn't make any sense. It's only useful, I guess, if you wanna be a completely rogue nation and not get attacked. Yeah, that's about as good as you get for you. That seems to be what it's used for now. It's like, once you get to that point, people can't fuck with you. Yeah, if you, I mean, there is a part of me that says the only thing that's smart

to do with nuclear weapons is to give every single nation one nuclear weapon as a memorial to how fucking stupid we all are. That's bad, you know, I mean, it is a bad idea, but it's a bad idea for anybody to have them. And it's a worse idea for the United States and Russia to have them just because we're the only people who've almost already destroyed the entire group multiple times. Shown to be slightly responsible with them. Yeah, I'm not worried about people killing everybody on purpose.

I'm worried about idiots killing people on accident. You know what I was surprised by? What? I was looking over the countries that have nukes. Yeah? France is on that list. Yeah, of course France has nukes. Weird.

Why? Everybody, everybody that fought World War II got nukes afterwards. And not everybody. Well, that's fair. That's fair, not everybody. That's true. So I think the point here, well, one side point is that

Alex is really upset about somebody talking shit about him on Rogam. Yeah, that is really stupid. They've been bringing that up a bit. But the other point is that Alex is really upset about somebody talking shit about him on Rogan. Yeah, that is really stupid. They've been bringing that up a bit. But the other point is that Alex is wanting to really exacerbate tensions in the audience. Yeah. If they were feeling worried about what they saw in the news, this is Taylor made to make them even more worried.

Now, apparently, about every country has nukes, and they're about to fly. This is kind of an irresponsible escalation of tensions and fear. Yeah. And that's kind of what Alex does. I mean, it's, I, that's how he makes money. Yeah, it is. I like, I keep going back to, there's no point in planning for nuclear war. We're all dead. You know, there's no big deal. I, in fact, I almost prefer it. Yeah, I think that's not necessarily true. Like, we're not all dead immediately. Right away. Right.

I mean, but if there's, you know, it's everybody wastes away, you might as well be dead. Well, you could find ways to thrive while you're wasting away. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

I agree with you slightly. Here's why I would agree with you. Yeah. Preparing for that happening, like a nuclear war launching off, is kind of tough and maybe not worth your time, because if we get to that point, everything you could have prepared for is now unpredictable. Yeah. And I don't, I don't know how much you can prepare three bottles of wine in a bottle of sleeping pills Is what you prepare for a nuclear war Jesus yeah, you're in the fuck out of dark mood I'm just I'm not the Joker. No, I'm just saying that that's it's such a silly thing to be afraid or prepare for Like it's all over at that point, you know, it's like the rapture like I'm not gonna prepare for the rapture

Because we all know it's post-trib first off. Oh boy. Oh boy. Wait, no Alex like Alex is right. Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, so Alex talks a small about the day's attack and I think he he catches himself a little okay over 5,000 missiles and counting. That numbers a couple hours old. They say more raining down right now than some of them are larger than the past ones. It's killed a whole bunch of people, cars, buildings, you name it around fire. But that was the artillery distraction

for the overrunning of much of southern Israel by forces of the militia of Iran, known as Hezbollah. Hamas. Another two different groups. I feel like you're telling yourself that. That's the thing. Hamas, the point is, is that this is all very, very, very upsetting and disgusting. And guys pull up the definition of Hasbola for me, print it up and the definition. Sorry.

Once the Sunis, once the Shiites, and sometimes I flip that names around and things like that, but Hasbola works for Iran. Hamas is the Sunni-backed one. And that's what I'm saying. And I'm sticking to that. Even though people are popping in my ear, telling me the opposite. What is happening? I would say based on this,

yeah, I wouldn't trust Alex to be the person I'm taking like emergency breaking news from Yeah, and I can I include myself in that category too totally I don't have Some kind of an assessment and like a way to break this news down in a way that's more valuable to you than some other source. Totally. That has a lot more information, a lot more experience in that area of the world. Hands on nature with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. I think I would be a bad person to get breaking news from. And Alex is also very bad.

Yeah. I mean, I think it is, it is this show. Like this is focused on a thing. This is where you get news about the thing. You know, it's the best place to get news about the thing. About, I can talk about Alex. Sure. Quite a bit.

Other stuff, there are other people who do that thing. Go to them. And they've got a thing for that thing. And I will say that Alex is not the person to go to for that thing. Absolutely. In any situation. No thing.

Especially when he's muttering to himself weirdly about wanting somebody to pull up the definition of Hamas and Hezbollah. I know the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah. It's not what I want to hear from somebody explaining to me the difference. Despite people telling me differently in my ear. Absolutely. Despite me going out. I got himself speaking into my ear right now saying I am wrong.

Right. I insist that I am correct. So now Alex is incorrect some more. And Iran is celebrating it, and Iran is basically taking credit for it. And so regardless of what you think of Iran, whether you like them, hate them or indifferent. I'm new to what thing? I want to stop World War III. And we have Iran helping Russia with drones and all the rest of it,

so you can see how this war is expanding with this coalition of Russia, Iran, China, and now North Korea. And then financially, you've got Brazil and India and the Brick's nations teamed up with China and Russia. And so the U.S. policies, the U.S. policies that are taking place here, that are taking place here. I'm giving $6 billion to Iran last month is definitely part of this.

I don't know. Also, Iran didn't take responsibility for the attack. That would be absurd for them to do that period. Yeah, that would be essentially starting a Middle East war. I mean, I guess Alec said they took responsibility, which is a pretty heavy word, or it's a word that's carrying a lot away. Yeah.

Also, Alex in that clip is accidentally bringing up something that he would have a hard time rationalizing to his audience. I thought Russia and Putin were waging the good fight against the new world order. Totally. But here they're aligned with and helping Iran, the country that's so horrible by Alex's estimate. How does that square up? Like they're working with China and Iran,

like all of these villain countries for Alex. Yeah, but I mean, we're also working with Iran after the $6 billion and $8 thing. Like what does any of this mean? Well, sure, but there is a difference between trying to get relations on a more solid footing as a way to possibly get more progress in the future towards shared interest. Yeah. There's a difference between that and the very real military alliance between Russia

and Iran. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. A little, a little different. Flitely different. And Alex just mutters these country bands. Hey, yada, yada, yada. Shouldn't his audience have real concerns about this? They should have real concerns about a lot more shit

than they do. Yeah, yeah. Yep. So Alex is wrong some more. Oh, yeah. But you notice what I'm saying is, is the Israelis are saying Iran is behind this. Not even so much Hamas.

And yes, obviously Hamas is a big part of the whole thing. What I'm saying is when it comes to attacking Israel, the Shiites and the Sunnis end up joining forces. Israel is officially... So yes, technically you can say both ways. Oh, for God's sake. Hamas. Even when I'm wrong, I'm right. Is the Islamic resistance movement?

Palestine, Sunni Islamic fundamentalists, militant and national organization. And that's a social service wing, Dawah, and is a military wing. Then you've got Hezbollah. We got the wiki's up, which is Leban Shia is llamas this political party in militant group And again, that's back by ran you probably weren't joking, but he is just reading the wikipedia pages I wasn't joking. Yeah, he 100% was reading the wikipedia page He was yeah, and also from the things that I've been able to find the Israeli government is also not blaming Iran Right like they are also on the same page as the United States with the,

we have not seen information that confirms this. Yeah. Well, I mean, Alex is saying that they're saying it was like it's, it's just off. It would be a bad idea if, if, if I was running things, I wouldn't be like, Hey, now's the time to do this. If I were a red. I'd wait like six months at least. Well, here's the reality of the situation in terms of this blame

stuff. Sure. Alex is just like Trump blamed Iran. So that's what Alex is doing. Oh, that makes sense. Here's Jack Pashodic tweeting one month ago, Trump predicted the six billion that Biden gave Iran would be used for terror attacks across the Middle East, and specifically kidnapping. This is exactly what we're seeing in Israel this morning. And here's Trump. Can you believe the crooked Joe Biden is giving 6 billion for the terrorist regime in Iran? That money would be used for terrorism all the Middle East and indeed the world. This is a competent fool is absolutely destroying America. He had a capacity. Let me the audacity to announce this terrible deal today, September 11th.

To pay for hostages will lead to kidnapping, rancid and black millions to Americans across the globe. I freak many dozens of people from various unfriendly countries and never paid a dime. And we've got new statements by Trump. They're up on info wars.com where he is blaming Iran. And I think that's the main culprit with the actual funding, though they're working with the Shiites. We'll pull this up. It's on info wars.com. Perhaps you guys can print me the story, but here it is trump blast biden for him us attack on israel america taxpayer fund a dollars

help these attacks the taxpayer fund a dollars is not correct and the like the issue that you run into with this and the thing one of the things that i find particularly offensive about it is that i mean the issue uh... of what's happening uh... in gaza is a very serious issue that requires people paying attention, people caring. Yeah. And Alex is turning this into a petty political thing.

This is Trump trying to score points on Biden, and Alex, a lot of his coverage is in service of furthering that goal for Trump. And I find that to be pretty offensive and distasteful. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, 100%. I also find it like, why is it totally accepted reasoning for so many people to think like entrusting violent children in the hands of a psychopath is the best way to keep us all safe?

You know? You mean Trump? I mean, it is like, how is it possible that people believe that Trump being in control of a military is going to keep you more safe. Well, the only way that you could even make that argument, and I think that some people tried to do this with the last time, was that the crazy man theory. Exactly. You never know what he's going to do.

So you don't want to do anything. It's so chaotic. Yeah, I think that that's bad. Yeah. But that makes sense. That's the only way that you could even make a coherent argument that it's a better set of affairs. Right. Right.

Right. Um, but yeah, I, I just, I don't know, I don't like the minimization of other people's real life, their real oppression, their real death, uh, both, uh, Israeli civilians and, uh, Palestinian civilians. Like, I don't think that it's right to take that and use it to power your fuck you, Biden. Why'd you do this deal? Your deal is what's really behind this.

It's degrading. Yeah, I mean, it is turning, it's, there is a story, there's a narrative with characters and everything else, everyone who's not a character in that narrative is disposable and useless and pointless and is just there as set decoration, you know, like... And tell that it's time to do something else and then they revert back and...

Yeah, the agency of a human being is stolen in service of a narrative. Ironic for people who are so into individualism and what have you. Strange. So Alex reads a little bit about this $6 billion that was unfrozen. And I think he accidentally reads the part where there are restrictions. Ooh. And, you know, what are you going to do? Not good.

Former President Trump said today, he blamed Joe Biden for the policy and terror groups. Some of us, some of us, taken to an Israel, citing his administration's unfreezing of billions of funds to Iran last month. He's a mass attacks are at his grace. And Israel has every right to defend itself with overwhelming force. Trump wrote on Truth Social. Sadly, American taxpayer dollars helped fund these attacks, with many reports are saying came from the Biden administration.

We brought so much piece of Middle East throughout the history only to see Biden wittlet away at a far more rapid pace that anyone thought possible. Here we go again. On September 8th Secretary Blinken undertook the procedural step of ongoing process to ensure Iranian funds can move from the restricted account to another and remain restricted to mediate to humanitarian aid. National Security Council spokesman Andre O'Watson said in a statement, as we have said from the outset, what is being pursued here is an arrangement where we secure the release of five wrongfully held Americans. This remains a sensitive, ongoing process. So again, Trump is saying that the money came from Iran. Obviously,

he's got a lot of good sources. So I just instinctively know that Iran is dormant with the one that's able to launch or fund attacks of this size. And Hamas has not been able to, but Hamas is taking the main credit. That way then, just the Gaza Strip gets bombed and there's not a larger war with Iran. But I think Israel is going to blame Iran and I think Israel's gonna at least bomb Iran and maybe go to full war with Iran. Interesting prediction.

That's a bad prediction. Wow, sure. No, no, no, no, I don't necessarily mean it's right or wrong Mm-hmm. I mean that is a bad thing to occur. It is It is and I think You know as we're recording this it fuels unlikely Let's hope yeah So yeah, I think that Alex is just off. I he's off about so many things and I think that Alex is just off. He's off about so many things.

And I think that there is an acceptability of suggesting that you believe that Iranian funding may have contributed. Yeah. Or something. You know, you can have a suspicion. But the way that Alex is talking about such certainty and it's not a healthy way to engage with current events, I don't think.

Yeah. I mean, there's no way for you to build a conspiracy out of and apartheid state will inevitably create an terrorist organization that tries to take down the apartheid state, only reinforcing the power of the apartheid state. Like that is simply how it goes. You know, that's the cycle of the apartheid state only reinforcing the power of the apartheid state. Like that is simply how it goes. You know, that's the cycle of the apartheid state. That's not a conspiracy. That's just, that's not like Netanyahu knew this was coming

so much as it is by virtue of creating a government that does this, you create this thing also, a force of opposition to that government. And that's just how it works, you know? It's just how it's always gone. We create the terrorists that just try to destroy us. Well, sure, I think you can point to that cycle, but Alex doesn't think it was a moss.

Of course that. He thinks it was Hasbolla. Yeah, that's that's right. So again, this is tomorrow's news today. We'll see him, I'm right. Make sure he's meeting us going to say that I'm going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I what I wanted to get to next. What I know for a fact is incontrovertible. Iran has smuggled in an infiltrated in this country. They report thousands a month coming across as a Texas border, military, H.M.E.N. from Iran and from other Shiite countries. And they are very serious fighters,

and they are willing to die in suicide missions. And if we ever do go to full board war with Iran, they are going to activate those groups to do very similar things to what you just saw done to Israel. And that's going to be terrible for those to get killed or the power grid that gets attacked. You know, Iran's been looking at that. But what I'm really worried about is how our liberties and freedoms will be taken. Because there's a quote, Muslim thread on 9-11, so we then lose all our rights on the Patriot Act,

whose main mission is Trump supporters, and the American people today. That's official now. So this is the real thing that Alex is on. It was less than a week ago that we were doing an episode of that, Alex, insisting that Biden was letting in military-aged men at the Southern border because they were trying to purge the military and create an all-immigrant

policing force. Now, apparently, the military-aged men threat you need to be scared about is the Hezbollah fighters who have come in and are comprising sleeper cells in the United States when they activate, they'll be used to take away the freedom of American people and demonize Trump supporters. If you listen to Alex's show, you should realize

the way these touch points are constantly recontextualized to make you fear different things depending on what Alex needs to get through the day's news. He wants you scared of military aged men coming over the border, but that fear can be exploited for so many different narratives. It's not important that what he's saying be true or that it even makes sense. All that matters is that it's effective in scaring the audience. Yeah.

Think about this. The way that you take the military-aged man coming over the border and use it to holy different ways. Within the span of like a week and a half. Yep. And then look at the other detail, the attack on the power grid.

Alex has constantly said that the globalists are going to do that to blame Russia. Yep. But now, apparently, Iran is looking at it. Iran's already been planning it. They've been looking at it. We know that's been proven. Right.

They've been looking at it. Right. You take these concrete things that you've built up anxiety and fear around and then apply them to whatever you need in order for it. And then you pretend that you didn't do it around this in the past. And it can't be understated that this is red scare, you know, this is like, hey, the reds have put in sleeper cells here they could be anywhere. I mean, it does seem weird that we're only attacking civil rights. No, but and Jewish people and, you know, this has been done constantly with the sleeper cell fears and stuff. We've seen this, over the course of the time that we've been doing the podcast, we've seen repeated instances

of this trying to drum up fears, whether it be people coming in over the border, that's been used a number of times. Sure. Antifa. Antifa is a number of times. Definitely. Black lives matter. Right. Yeah. This has constantly been something that has been used to evoke fear of the unknown, fear of the people who are unlike you and such. And it's what this was bound to get to. In terms of this coverage, this is where it was meant to go, because unfortunately, I don't think Alex's audience

cares much about the plight of the Palestinian people. Totally. I don't think that what's going on in Israel and Gaza is really that resonant to a lot of Alex's audience from an emotional standpoint. Clearly. You can have fear of geopolitics and an abstract sense, but bringing it home to where they need to now be scared of Hezbollah fighters when they're trying to go to the grocery store.

That is what is impactful in terms of keeping the audience in that fear state. Yeah. I mean, in this case, with this type of conflict in the, in the, I mean, it's hard for, it's hard for people to understand this if they're not in it, right? But you take a conflict like Russia and Ukraine and you can make a good guy and a bad guy out of it, right? But any conflict in Israel for the, for the religious right is end time shit. Right. So you can't make a good or bad guy out of there. You either have to say this is the end times or it's not the end times.

And you're gonna roll with it. Right. And if you're talking about it through the prism of that end time stuff, there is an inevitability. Yeah, exactly. Do stuff. And that's when we get from you can be afraid of shit to now we know what the steps are going to be Mm-hmm. You can't frighten me with what might happen. I got the fucking book of revelations open You said n times buddy. Here we are

Yeah, so yeah, so one thing I want to drive into like real sharp focus for you Mm-hmm is that at the beginning of this show Alex said he woke up at five in the morning and there was this news. And so he called in the staff, they were gonna have the day off, so he called them in to do this emergency report. Yeah. This is going to be important as we move forward.

Oh God, just keep that in mind. Oh God. Because here's the first clip where things felt a little weird. I didn't know what was going on here. All right. And I don't care whether it's the Israeli leadership or the German leadership or the UK leadership or the Canadian leadership or the US leadership or any of it. At the top

there are eugenicist, globalist, transhumanist, think we're all a bunch of animals. You all know Harari's Jewish. He's the main spokesperson for the world economic form. We're going to talk about him in a moment with an expert. And his quotes go read him as the human errors over. Humans will be extinct soon. The AI will be God and rule you. Well, Hitler just said he's that the future is not these groups. That was bad enough. This guy's up there saying the future is not human. Hitler just said, the human era is here. And that word will be extinct by 2050. Well, that sounds as about a Hitler as it gets, but he's a chicken neck gay Jewish guy. So it's like, well, he's a chicken neck, you know, Jewish guy. So he's non-threatening, you know, like, like, like,

uh, Tim Cook runs giant slave camps, the worst in China using weager slaves, but he's gay. And he wears a turtleneck and has a little neck. Like, well, he's non-threatening and talks with a list. Oh, Sir J. Brin and all these guys, Larry Page, they're like nerds, so they're non-threatening. They know that, folks, and there, you want to compare them to Hitler. They say the future's not human. Hitler just said the future is Aryan

and he's going to take over and kill everybody else. And that's terrible. But you see all the other racial groups, hack. Every other group has their supremacist. Every other group organizes this. We're the best. We're the kings. We're the chosen people. Everybody does that.

Except Christians that unify everybody under Christ. You know what I'm talking about? And the big 10. That's one big reason to be a Christian. What is happening? I mean, this is nonsense. Wow. I don't even know why this happened.

This cut, like why did this branching path happen? It seems very bizarre to jump into a rant about you've all know Harari doesn't seem relevant. Yeah, he's like, first of all, not the main spokesperson for the world economic. Sure. Why not? He's just spoken there a few times. That's fine.

Yeah, whatever. Main spokesman been there. Same difference. So I was trying to think of like what is the issue here? Like, and I mean, obviously Harari is a Jewish person, but also he is under Israeli citizen, he lives in Tel Aviv, but he's not part of the government. And he doesn't have any real attachment to power

about a real connection to power. So this is ridiculous. We're in the middle of this emergency special report about presumably about the attack on Israel. Yeah. And Alex has decided to take time to interview an expert about you've all know a Harari. Yeah.

Why? What is this sense of this? Well, because there's news about Israel. So people have got to, we got to talk about at the very least, Jewishness. Well see, that's what I was worried about kind of, right? This was gonna veer into like deeply anti-Semitic territory. Sure.

It's different. But, it's different. And I think what's more important here is that Alex is on some anti-gay shit. Well, the, is that how it goes forward? Cause that's where I feel like this is going because he did seem to be particularly It was really fucking weird. Yeah, he hit that pretty hard. Yeah And then he got rid of it and then he hit it again. Yeah, well here's wild. Here's the thing. Yeah, no It's not about any of this okay, but it is a foreshadowing of why this is the most frustrating fucking episode.

I've listened to in a very long time. Yeah. Um, but before we figure out why, uh, Alex has a position that he evokes about the conflict. And it on the surface appears to have some decent points in it. Okay. Trump is blaming Iran. Israel's blaming Iran. Hamas is the main group that runs the government in the Gaza Strip. There's millions of people there in the Gaza Strip. It is a hellhole.

They routinely get bombed by the Israelis. They bomb the Israelis back. It's a 75 year war. It's terrible. It needs to be fixed But this is definitely not gonna fix it and taking hostages and targeting civilians is not good But let's just be honest and I'm not endorsing what they did I'm not endorsing the Israelis dropping thousand and two thousand pound bombs on apartment buildings and killing

Women and children in in mass So if you want to call Hamas or Hezbollah terrorist, and I think targeting civilians is terrible, well then what is Israel doing? What is Obama doing? He'd blow up a whole, and sorry? Jerusalem wedding and kill 100 something people

and say well we killed the one guy we wanted so it's collateral damage. So before we criticize Hamas or Hezbollah, we have to criticize our own government. We have to criticize the Israeli government. And I get war. Look, my dad's dad flew over, you know, Italian cities. That was mainly in his missions out of North Africa, bombing what they thought were German targets,

but they killed a lot of Italian folks. Let's get that straight. So, I mean, I'm not tear judging anybody in these wars. These are wars a terrible thing. So, he did some things into Germany too, only a few missions. So, my grandfather flew around dropping bombs on German cities, okay? And on Italian cities, mainly on the West Coast, when the US invasion went in there. His air cover.

My other grandfather didn't do many missions, still plane broke and he crashed landed almost got killed. He was lucky. He only did a few missions, but the point is, is that he was a fighter pilot. Not going into, but the point is, is that, is that that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen. So I don't judge Jerry Jones from grandfather, under orders, dropping 500 pound bombs on German houses. But I'm just saying, don't call Hezbollah I mean, I think that's what the American government is saying. I think that's what the American government is saying.

I think that's what the American government is saying. I think that's what the American government is saying. I think that's what the American government is saying. I think that's what the American government is saying. I think that's what the American government is saying. I think that's what the American government is saying. I think that's what the American government is saying. I think that's what the American government is saying.

I think that's what the American government is saying. I think that's what the American government is saying.. But that's what war is. And that's why Sean Penn and the left and all of them are wrong. We want to end war. We want to stop war. We want this to not go on anymore. This is not good. And it's getting out of control. And it dehumanizes us.

So that's shocking kind of to hear on this show. I think from Alex, because he's saying stuff that has a kernel of a good perspective in it. I suppose. There is an element. Yeah. He's saying that if you're going to cast dispersions at groups like Hamas, you have to also

realize the reality of what the conditions that Palestinians are living under due to the Israeli government. Sure. That is a position you would not expect to hear from Alex. I wasn't. Right. The thing you have to hear from Alex. I wasn't. Right. The thing you have to understand is that this is all talk. And you can tell by the way he tries to connect things to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Alex will say many decent sounding things about opposing war and how both sides in a conflict will act in ways that are bad for the average civilian. And you can't agree with that. But if you pay attention, he has a habit of siding with the group that did the invading, or the side that has a disproportionate amount of power. He speaks seemingly sensibly about wanting to see an end to war, but the conditions that are required for that war to end in his estimation usually involve a capitulation of one side. The Ukraine war needs to end, and the way that it ends is they stop fighting

back against Putin's invasion. Banned and becomes subservient to the power that Alek supports, or you're needlessly sustaining war. This case isn't too much different. There's good lip service in some places like throughout that clip, but Alek's doesn't actually believe that the Israeli government suppression of the Palestinian people is as morally condemnable as a Hamas attack. Yeah. That's absurd if you know anything about Alex's positions. Yeah. And the way he's carried himself.

But you hear that and it's like, it's going on here. I mean, it is, it is again so much like whatever he says means nothing, especially about war because they're acting as the war exists as it like contextless. Right. You know, like the society that Alex seeks to create designs itself for war. An unequal society dominated by one group is going to lead to a war whenever the other group goes, I can't do this shit anymore. We have us killing you and dying is less, I mean, it's basically the same as us starving to death, so fuck it, maybe at the end of this, we'll eat.

You know? These are the things that the world that Alex supports and believes in are, they are constantly in favor of. Yeah, that's what they create. So they create war. Right. And you see like his world, the John Birch society folks and the entire tradition that he

comes from were very big fans of apartheid. And Alex has constantly said apartheid maybe is better. So over and over and over. Like he believes in world views that are willing to create a part-time state that will precipitate violence. Yeah, I mean, it is a feature and not a bug because the violence itself makes people desire

the apartheid state more. Mm-hmm. It is a self-fueling thing. Yeah. So Alex has that guest on. He has that expert on Yvall nor Harari. Sure. On.

And I can't say this any other way than I almost threw something across the room. Okay. This made me so mad. But the real war is cutting off our energy, our fertilizer, our food, and it's killing already tens of millions of people extra a year. So let's talk about the real war that isn't when guns and bullets coming up with Kent heaven, limely. And we're going

to talk about this book that is so timely. We were still riding this just three weeks ago. It's 400 pages long. It just went to print. Our warehouse is now full of these books. This is an info-murshil for Alex's books. Book that ends up happening. The expert guest that he has on Yuval Noah Harari is the ghost writer of his previous book, Can't Hicken Lively, and the guy who is now credited

as a co-writer on his second book, probably because he wanted to get a little more money because Alex fucked him out of it. All the first one, I would assume. I would assume that that is the case because his name is almost nowhere on the first book. You have to go deep to the back to find his involvement as the actual writer of the great reset book that Alex wrote.

Yeah. Ghost writers tend to take a flat fee up front and they do not receive royalties on the back end. And that might have been inconvenient for him. Yeah. Yeah. Usually if it sells pretty well, you want those, you want those back end pieces. So you can kind of see why this real infuriating. Oh boy, boy, howdy. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, can't just as a little bit of a background about him. He's somebody who is written a bunch of like anti-vax books over the years. He wrote a book called Inoculated How Science Lost Its Soul to Autism. He's a frequent collaborator with Judy

Mikawitz who is the person who put out a pandemic and had just a flood of COVID-19 misinformation. So he's deeply involved in that. So he, one thing that's interesting is that he literally branded himself the quote, world's number one anti-vaxxer. So that's, that's kind of, you know, is there a competition? Well, I mean, you know, you kind of, when you're in a position like him, you like to pretend you're just asking questions and all that. But when you, you know, you have a shirt that says

number one anti-vaxxer, yeah, it's kind of, uh, I, I, I, I, I, saying, Bolt wasn't just running from time to time. You know, he was, he was into it. Yeah. Yeah. So he also has a blog that he founded called the Age of Autism, which is just a giant anti-vax blog. Yeah, that sounds right. He's a real piece of shit. And yeah, he wrote Alex's first book very clearly. It's one of the things that you learn when you go through it page by page like I have been doing. Oh, yeah, it makes no sense if Alex wrote it Yeah, it's it's ridiculous The kind of stuff that you find in it that it's like Alex would never say that this doesn't make sense Because can't hit can lively wrote it right and Alex also called him hill and lively or head

He knows he even knows own Why would you bother so now here's why I'm this makes me furious is that Alex presented this as I got up at five in the morning. I called the staff in yep to do this Yep, and the only real explanation you can come up with it is that He knew that this would be something that would get a lot of attention, get a lot of eyes here. Yep. And so he's going to make the most out of it, exploiting the situation in Israel and Gaza by doing an info-murshil for his book. There's no other explanation for it. Well, there's one other one, but it's sort of partially involved in this.

Okay. And we'll get to that in a little bit. I just was shocked that even went through with this. All right, it's 124 Central Time, Emergency Saturday, October 7, the transmission. Kent Heckenleimli is an amazing author and researcher and helped me to the book, the great reset. And now the new book, the great Awakening,

defeating the globalist and launching the next great Renaissance. It's on pre-order. We it's in our warehouse and start shipping on the 20th. You can order it at amazon.com, it's at us at number one, or get signed copies as a fundraiser to keep us on air at info.org.com.

And we need your support. We have unsigned copies there as well. All right Kent, wow, what a day to get you on. You were supposed to be on an hour ago, but I had to get more crew in here to do research and prepare for this. I was gonna tape a show that we were gonna air with you on Monday, but wow, this is all going on

and unfolding the situation. See Israel. See yeah, maybe. So not only did he not wake up at five in the morning thinking, oh, we have to do this emergency episode. Right. He was already planning to do this episode. He was planning to do a pre-retour date.

Or a panic. Yes. In order to then, yeah. Well, it turns out he's not going to be there on Monday. So he wanted to have a pre-record hour and a half that they could go ahead and play on his show. We've been there. Sure.

We didn't pre-record a fucking info commercial during a fake emergency broadcast about atrocities going on in the Middle East. Yeah, I really find that to be a new low of tastelessness. Yeah, I couldn't even have imagined that concept. Neither could I. Yeah. And to me, the situation that I was in was when I heard this news, obviously, I was horrified for the people involved.

The innocent civilians who were going to die, have died, or are going to suffer because of this. Yeah. It's horrifying and unawful. Yeah. My second thought a little bit later was, I do not want to hear what Alex has to say about this. I am dreading what this is going to be. And when I got to listening to this episode, I could never have imagined that the second half of it, a full half of it, would be an infurshal for his book. I found it to be one of the most distasteful, I don't know. I- Wait, half? Do you mean that after he introduces that we have no more non-info-murshal-related?

Not really. That is unimaginable. Yep. I mean, truly, truly, we have chronicled disgusting behavior through this man, through any number of different people. We live in a world of disgusting behavior. And somehow, that is unimaginable for me. Here's what you do if you're Alex. You do the hour special report or whatever, going over your thoughts about how this is secretly Hezbollah and what have you you do that you go off there you pre record this and then you

put it out on Monday. You don't continue doing this as your live show because you know that eyes are on your product because of deeply traumatic and scary news that's coming out about geopolitics. News that you're exacerbating by insisting everyone's about to get nuked. This is degrading behavior. I mean, yeah, you see a man look at an atrocity and think, I can make a little scratch off that. I mean, that's the most generous. Yeah, I know that is that is the nicest way of looking at it. Yeah, the other one is like seeing this and being like perfect

Oh, thank God advertising campaign. I have been waiting for this massive discussing a trust Are numbers were low and thankfully this will drive some traffic. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Anyway, fuck Kent. In these times, which I know people are scared, what I would say to the Info Wars audiences is ask yourself, what's the bravest thing you can do today? What is the most important thing? You say, by God damn book, I will murder myself. I think it's to get your new book, the great,

God damn it. God damn it. The great awakening. Yeah, that's a bravest thing you can do. I knew it is order our new book Fucking knew that was gonna be the bravest thing you can do. It's so disgusting I knew the bravest thing you could do would be order a book. I just knew it. Yeah, I knew it in my soul The bravest thing you can do is do the thing that profits me directly. See, that is imaginable. Yeah. Somehow getting to this point, unimaginable. Right. One that's there.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Obviously, yeah, fuck yeah. What are you gonna, how do you go lower? You can't, fuck it. You know what, the people of the planet, they want you. Nobody wants you to give aid. They want you to buy Alex's book. Fine, I can imagine that now. You have opened the door. Yeah, there is no bottom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely not. It's disgusting. Yeah, exploitative nature of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so Kent is, is, they like to present this in a way that's like, he's a fact checker. Oh, my God.. He is not no He very clearly wrote the first book at least well He's the world's number one a time X there. I haven't read the second book because it's not out right But I would assume he wrote that too. I would because Alex can't do this. He can't write no not not because of Any deficiency that he has he's too lazy. He's too angry Yeah, he gets distracted by everything, he's drunk all the time. So there's just no way he could put Marshall the resources he would need personally to write

a book. Anyway, they like to present him as a fact checker. And one of the things that I find very interesting is that he checked all of Alex's claims, and man, they're almost all right. Wait, how does almost? I mean, a lot of crazy claims to you. And you said 99% of them, you could actually find, we're actually accurate.

And then a few times I just kind of twisted something or flipped it and got it backwards. Then we were able to find out what I was actually saying. What was the process like at the book? And let's talk about what's in it. Yeah, so what was great in it, I really want your audience to know for this. I never found you telling me a single thing that I couldn't find a source that kind of went along with that.

Now the kind of went along with the percent of the time, you know, there was something that I didn't trust about the source, but I was really clear that you would heard it. And, you know, when people ask you what's it like right in for Alex Jones, I say, the man has an incredible memory, recall, you know, all say something like, well, gee, you know, really get me this David Rockefeller or China relationship and you'll go, well, can't, you know, go to the New York Times, 1973, you

know, January and suddenly I type it in and I find, you know, David Rockefeller talking about what a wonderful place China is, even though they just went through the cultural revolution where they killed Millie. And so it was really what was, well, he endorsed the endorsement. I don't say tongue and said we need to be like this. Yeah. Wow.

It's amazing that Dalek's just threw in a lie there at the end while his fact checker is talking about how great and true all of his stuff is. Now the reality is I think that the fact checking process works almost exactly like what we just saw. Yeah. Alex makes some claim like David Rockefeller said we should all be like Mao and then Kent Looks around is like oh my god this op-ed does exist now doesn't say what Alex said it says

But it does exist holy shit. He's right. Yeah, fuck you Kent. Yep. I mean the worst the language that Kent uses gives it away a little entirely just like refusing to be like kind of, every qualifier that you use takes points away from whether or not you believe what you're saying. I have a deep-seated feeling that if I just fully endorse what you're saying, I'll look really good. It's a bad idea for me to say you are right. Yeah.

So it's a good idea for me to say you are right. Yeah. So it's a good idea for me to be diplomatic and saying that you point correctly to books most of Mostly kind of sort of yeah, and I got to be diplomatic because Judy Micavitz isn't selling books anymore. Nope, and I need to get some of it. I got a better deal from Alex for the sequel. Hey, help.

So let's be real diplomatic and fun about this. This is a fucking infomercial. God, let's talk about what's in these chapters. Because folks, when I tell you I'm proud of this book, this is an incredible book. Plus it keeps us on air with your support. So you want to walk through the chapters with people, maybe? You know, you've got all the copies of the book

and I don't have them yet. Pull out a chapter you like to. So we're gonna go chapter by chapter. Did you hire a ghost trader? Well, he just didn't get a copy of it. Well, I mean, now that he's on the book, he's got the royalties on the back end, he can afford to get a ghostwriter to pay flat fee up front Oh, that would be nice. Yeah, we could we could fucking rush it matrushka doll this all the way to book number 10

Yeah, I mean it's a diminishing returns because you got to keep paying out people. Yeah, there is that but Yeah, I mean if you want to like really farm out the work It's he can put them out much quicker. Laziness is contagious. Yeah. So one of the things that can't really appreciate about Alex is that like he's so researched. And people just need to need to actually listen to him. That's when I really come away appreciating about you is your, your, all your broadcasts are informed by an extensive amount of reading of these documents that these evil globalists have put out. And so, you know, I really encourage people take a look at what Alex is saying because it's

based on his own deep research. And that that's why it really was it was so great to work with you because I could always trust that I would find what you told me to go looking for. And that's just chapter one. Oh man. Oh my God. So you encourages people to look at what Alex is saying. I have. Can't I have reason to your challenge and I find you to be full of shit. I think I think congratulations. I actually think Ken degrees with you. Probably. I think so. I mean, can't just very much.

I don't actually think so. He's the not world's number one anti-vaxx. I will say the way that he was saying that very much suggests like the more I looked into what Alex said, the more I stopped looking into what Alex said. And what I realized he was deeply researched. Yeah, it's a really smart move for me to say he is deeply researched and for me not to research. The more I looked into the things he was saying, the more I realized that he has an essential inability to grasp what things to say on the page. Yes. He has a reading comprehension problem, but a great imagination. It does seem like that's the yeah, I would say so. So like legit, they're going chapter by chapter.

They're not. We're not. Now we've only gotten to the second chapter. We're taping this on Saturday with this giant war that's erupted in Israel. But this is like you said, the million foot view, the 35,000 foot view to understand what's going on. So let's go to chapter three. You are being modified against your will. And then we talk about end to what end that

the modification, the transhumanism is happening now. And we're only up to page 50 at this point. Oh, my God. You're mad. Somehow, somehow this is back to unimaginable again. What the fuck just happened? I don't know that is insane Mm-hmm that's insane Well, there was a war in Satan people. Let me walk you through my experience of listening to this Yeah, cuz I didn't I didn't watch this live Yeah, so I listened to it after the fact sure and my experience of it was when it launched into an info-mursal I thought I could never have seen that coming in a million years never in a million years I think the worst of Alex. I think very little of him

I think he's capable of almost anything that's crass and self-promoting and yet I could not have imagined that as it went along Much like you I started to feel like yeah, I can imagine the things that they're doing within this Context and then I thought to myself There's an hour left There's not gonna be all this and it is He just now it just never stops being about the book Even when he throws in we're recording this when there's this big war I Mean yeah, that's it's unimaginable again.

I don't know how this happened. Well, it's like that rake theory of comedy, you know? Yeah, but I mean, it is a function, it's one of the things that I like about myself is that I have a very vivid imagination that can go all kinds of places. Somehow, I mean, and almost it reflects positively on me because it would not have ever occurred to me

were I to imagine evil that this is something that evil could do, you know? Like it is truly like, wow, I genuinely thought, because to me, like everybody who says people aren't people, you know, people are this people's bit different or we're all one people. This guy makes me feel like we're not all one people, man. It's definitely a weird sort of person. Yeah. Like if you're even just like kind of a shitty, thoughtless, almost materialist, business person, and Alex's position. I really sincerely think that okay, we had planned and scheduled that we're gonna do this

InfoMarshall about the book that was going to air on Monday. I don't have any other time that I can do this, but man, this is shitty. This would look really bad for me. So I think the best thing to do would be we'll record it another time. We can have Harrison Smith sit in on Monday, you know, you can fill the time with whatever the fuck. This seems to me like it would be such a disqualifying decision to make that I would avoid it, but apparently it's not. Yeah, I was trying to think like, I was trying to compare it to like,

whenever you see the CEOs who think that they're very objective. Like in order to get down inflation, we need to make sure that the labor market has a higher unemployment rate. That's like doing that whole thing where they're like, what you're literally saying is that you want more people to starve so you can control their labor.

Oh, sure. Or like when people wanted more people to have COVID. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Like that kind of like you're being callous and stupid. But in your mind, you're not doing this out of like, you believe it's in pursuit of a higher goal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then this, it's so petty.

Yep. It's so disgusting. Mm-hmm. And it is, it is, I mean, it's almost pure in a way. This is almost pure, you know,, just on, don't me. There's a decent chance that Alex gave Kent a better deal because he knows that his money is being like, a monitor.

I bet it's not even out of jealousy for his co-writer. He's probably getting kicked back from his co-writer. Probably. God damn it. Yeah, yeah, there's a crass explanation for even that. Yeah, I mean, it is, it is we are reaching. I'm in bankruptcy camp, so you're a co-writer. We are reaching that kind of like hipster level of purity, you know, where you're like,

oh wow, you're just not going to get this concentration anywhere else. No. You're just not. This is, we got to cut this with something. Yeah. We're seriously. Unfortunately,, we cannot because this is all about his but oh my God. I like the human process. See, we can decide humans are the only animal that builds its

controls its own environment because we're not an animal. We're making the image of God. We're about bevers. But we envisioned a thousand and number of 200 year ago we built. I mean, birds built that. He wants to decide that, oh, you're overpopulated, you're bad. Turn off your life force. Just roll over and die. No, we're not going to do it, Kent. And so that's why the book is so important. I want to challenge viewers and listeners.

But the bare minimum, it keeps us on air. And it funds the operation. It's a historical book. It's something you're not supposed to have, but something the censors don't want you to have. And the other book was great. And was a number one bestseller. This, ladies and gentlemen, is light years better than the great reset in the world. It is the great awakening. It's not just the tailing the enemy operations, it's just the tailing how to defeat them.

So I have a little four, five minute promo video that I shot last week that kind of breaks this down. Let's race through the other, I think there's 10 or 11 more chapters we haven't talked about, and you're only skimming the surface here. I mean, this is deep hardcore research, but it's not giving you a headache like academics. It's, we give our view, we show their statement,

we show where they set it, we tie it together with the next chapter and back to the last chapter, and I thought the book was great. It's great, I think the book's great. Didn't read it, didn't write great. It's great. I think the book's great. Didn't read it. Didn't write it. It's great.

I think it's great. I think I'm gonna make some money. I think I love this book. Is the best book we've ever had? I haven't read it. I haven't written it. But I mean, look, it's a money. So that's great.

Oh, love it. Oh. We're gonna go through these 11 chapters. I'm gonna play this five minute promo piece that I recorded. This is just disgusting. I mean also the world's gonna get nuked. Also, Hasbola is invading all your US cities and they're going to have sleeper cells that are going to launch attacks on you.

Yeah, but here watch this five minute piece about the bravest thing you can do is buy my book. I mean, there's is there like, okay, let's say, let's say this is a simulation, like 100%. Yeah. And Alex is the only person who knows for a fact. It's a simulation. And there will be no lasting consequences for any behavior. At the end of this life, he'll just clean slate, restart. You know, he'll get a new character and he'll just keep on going, right? And this is, but this is the character that he's chosen to be like just as awful as he can be in.

But I would, okay, well, I guess- Like even then, I couldn't imagine a playthrough. I can't play through an RPG, where you get to be the evil guy and I can't feel, I can't not feel bad whenever I'm like Well, I want to see what they do the only yeah, I mean I find that for me It's unsatisfying to play a negative evil character in a game especially because unless there's some sort of way that you can Roll play a like redemption

Sure some sort of a redemption sure can role play a like redemption. Sure. Some sort of a redemption. Sure. Yeah, if it were a simulation, I think playing the role of Alex would suck a lot. Yeah. It would suck.

I mean, it's crazy. Yeah. It is nuts. I get that that's one of the ways that you could conceive of like ethically wiggling around this. I'm just trying to, I'm, no, I mean, I'm trying to find a space. I would one ethically justify acting like this. Yeah, or not even eth, no, I mean, I'm trying to find us I would one ethically justify acting like this

Yeah, or not even ethically, just, I mean, to just be in a larger sense of like, meaninglessness, you know, like not only is this, this is 100% not ethical, but because it's in a controlled environment where there will be no consequences, then I can indulge in this behavior. It's a solipsistic. Yes.

It is. Nothing exists except for me. It is very much, it really does feel like this is true solipsism. In a way that we've always been like, oh, he's a narcissistic psychopath. But if you truly believe that you're the only person on this planet. That matters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Can't, doesn't matter. Can't surprise. It's nothing. Can't is meaningless. Yeah. So Alex isn't going to be around on Monday, as we've established. Right.

But he's not going on vacation. Don't you dare say he's going on vacation. Ladies and gentlemen, it is the great awakening. Here's a little break down of it. We're going to come back, finish up talking about the book, and hit some other news that's unfolding. It doesn't hit the other news. Surprise is coming up next week. You're watching this live on Saturday. We're going to air this for big parts of it for an hour on Monday. I won't be in studio and it's not because I'm

on vacation. When people think I'm on vacation, I'm not on vacation. My wife and daughter might be with me when I go on the road and then they're off at the museum or the planetarium or the aquarium or at the beach or by the beach. I'm not doing that folks. Other than maybe an hour a day with them. I behind the scenes doing a lot. It's kind of like fight club and I don't want to I'm sorry. Cooler than fight club because we're not common as blowing up Wall Street but it's the real fight club and let's just say this, my work off air is just as important as the on air work. I've really reached by the grace of God. The more works of the Terrier's ways, a point now where, and the enemy knows this,

they've got our phones tapping stuff, but the public hasn't quite figured it out yet. I don't deserve this, but I now recognize as kind of the Tyler Durgan behind the scenes with some of the biggest names out there. And a lot of that's going to start coming out because we're not launching Operation Chaos. We're launching Operation Renaissance Operation Great Awakening. And because of all this, I've convinced a lot of people that now know I'm right to listen to me about how to challenge this and how to fight this. So all glory goes to God, spiritually,

temporarily to the audience, the crew and everybody else. But if they kill me, I didn't commit suicide like Matt Gaiches. I'm sorry. What? Oh boy. So yeah, Alex is the Tyler Durgan of shitheads basically. He's convinced a bunch of weak-minded folks to go along with him. I'm guessing, you know, you probably talking about a Tucker, probably talking about a Joe Rogan, maybe, although apparently someone was talking shit about Alex on his show recently. I don't know what that's about.

Yeah. Talking about a, I think Alex would have my people meet that in this and not the Tyler Durgan. Well, I mean, I think with enough time and and distance I think we can recognize the Tyler Durgan wasn't the right person in that book He wasn't real There was that issue. It's a sociopath. There was that but almost destroys Edward Norton's life. Yeah, yeah, yeah Leads him down some very bad paths You know, but he has to shoot himself in the face in order to be rid of him.

Yeah, yeah. On the other hand, I wouldn't have blown up that Wall Street if he hadn't. It's true. For you never one from credit card. Yeah, Tyler Durgan will help you out in some ways. Mm-hmm. Never like Poloniac.

Eh? Never liked him. You're not missing much. No, I read a bunch of it. Never liked it. Oh, okay. Yeah. No, I read a bunch of it. Never liked it. Oh, okay. Well, then people told me.

Then you went the way wrong direction. I was at the right age when, you know, like, choke. And a lot of it's coming out. Oh, yeah. Like, there was kind of like an edginess to it. I always just thought, like, this is grotesque for the sake of being grotesque. Yeah. I don't like any of this.

Yeah, I didn't, you know. And I just like Tyler Durgan. I, I,'t, you know. And I just like Tyler Durgan. I, I, I, what, what, what, I definitely wasn't going to be like telling people like, oh, I was reading later, he chatted with these lover while you were reading Fight Love. Like, I'm not going to go that far. I, um, I think that Alex is going on vacation. Yeah, I agree. Based on what he's saying.

Yes. I mean, he went to Hawaii. Oh my god. And it's like he goes to London and starts talking to the people change in the guard. I'm gonna be so mad. Oh, no, he's talking to go back to that well. I mean, we went to Hawaii. Pretended he was getting info on Zuckerberg's compound. It's bullshit. His off-air work is the great facade that he can pretend is going on that justifies how little is actually going on on air. His off-air work is Brewster's millions. He is trying to spend every penny that he's got. I would I

would say that there's a there's a fairness to that assessment based on everything I can tell based on the complaints that have been made to the bankruptcy court. Yeah. Masking for raise, all of this shit. Yeah. He's trying to make sure that no one else gets to enjoy that money but him. Yeah. And that is hard work. I suppose if you're committed to it,

yeah, there's work there. So we have one last clip here. And it's not about the book, right? It is. But it's also about Alex wanting to get the web address fortress of joy. He wants that URL. All right, well, I mean, don't.

And then the rest of my day, I'm doing all the things that bring me joy and contentment. And so I feel like those three or four hours that I'm attacking the dragon, attacking the devil. I am a fearless warrior during that time, but I have to secure my fortress of joy constantly to make sure that I'm a good warrior. Hey, I'm going to ask listeners, don't do this. I can't. Wes, will you an ass listeners. Don't do this. Hey, Kent.

Well, Wes, will you go get in your own name or whatever? Will you get Fortress of Joy? I'll pay you back right now. Dot news or dot com. I don't know. That's been written yet that we should Google. It's probably some horrible sex site. What time I was on air trying to like type in genus.

Yes. I had this sponsor on the crew to have it like pulled up something and bullied ever but the bow knows what Fortress of joy is, but that is a great. I've never heard that term. That's what we need to form as a fortress of joy against their

evil because it's a saying many have said it's no one knows you said it first, but you don't fight because you hate the people in front of you. You fight because you love the people behind you. And that's it. We have a fortress of joy. Thomas Jefferson. Yeah, and if they can steal our joy, if when we appear in front of the public,

we're scowling, we're angry, we're not convincing them to join us. And that's why I, you mentioned that the book was fun to read. Well, I love mocking stupid people and I love mocking stupid plans. And it's it's fun. And and our movement is fun. Connecting to God is joyful. Connecting to others is joyful. I say to those people who are living the liberal nightmare. I understand how miserable you are. What I'm asking you is to come over to the joyful side of life.

Okay, so I'm not attacking them. I want to rescue them from their unhappiness. Beautiful. I'm just searching for this of joy. I want to rescue them from their unhappiness. Beautiful. I'm just search engine for this of joy. Make sure it's on a porn site. Gotta do that. Not listening. Um, that was a lot of this of joy church. Uh, that's something in California. You got we got to get it right now.

Because burn that church down. I know. I know me. What happened? It doesn't matter. It's a, I said the title. I know me. I don't get it. But, uh, the absolutely, so you just came up with that term. That's a great term. He did. Hey, that's why you pay me the big bucks. Oh my god. Big bucks. You know, Dan, I was just thinking, you pay me the big bucks. So you can siphon that money back to yourself. I was just thinking, what is best in life? Uh, to, to, to, to crush your enemies,

Hmm. To see them driven before you, And to hear the limitations of the women. Hmm. And that is why I want you to come over to the side of joy. Sure. A tower of joy is, uh, that's from Game of Thrones, right? Is it? I think so. Huh? I that's from Game of Thrones, right?

Is it? I think so. Huh? I don't remember Game of Thrones that much. That was where John Snow was born. Oh, the tower of Greyjoy. No. Greyjoy is just the name of the... Greyjoy is the guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Theon. Oh, okay. Um, I don't know. Stray memories of Game of Thrones past. Can never handle it. So bring it on, Prick. Quite frankly, I would say we have 850 episodes for you to make fun of.

Yeah. Um, suspicious. Good luck. Suspicious if you love this so much. Here we are, and living a joyless existence of going on a sold out tour of the UK and having a great time meeting people and uh... that we didn't sleep well

so that sure i'm just fair enough i i think that but i mean what's fun about that is that it does reveal so much you know that i have fun making fun of stupid plans i have fun making fun of stupid people which is like yes it totally makes sense why you have to make up the people right and the plan Yeah, you can't talk to me. Hmm. Well, it would be a bad idea. It's a bad idea

It'd be a bad plan. So make up your own plan. Mm-hmm Make up your own people and then you can call them stupid all day sure Yeah, it's brilliant when this was a this full on review of Kent Hickenly, Lee's ghost written book, uh, then Alex put out his out. I wonder if we'll be mocked roundly for now. I think he'll be trapped in his fortress of joy. I would suggest he stay in that fortress of joy, uh, as opposed to fighting this dragon. I'll tell you what, we're not invited. No, we're not invited to that for just a joy. I would suspect that his version of joy is something counter to my version of joy. Yeah.

So yeah, this, I feel like on the one level, you know, we're talking about the unimaginability of Alex doing a hour long info commercial for his book in the context of something that he's gaining attention for and drawing people to based on exploitation of feelings surrounding the situation in Israel and Gaza. And I think we've covered that territory pretty well. But I would like to cover it enough. I agree.

And in the impossibility of that task, I think we've done okay. Yeah. But let's zoom the camera out a tiny bit more. Sure. If I'm can't hicken lively I cancel I'm not gonna be a part of this How do you agree to go along with a chapter by chapter breakdown knowing that what's going on is Alex is Exploiting today's events. Yeah in the world in order to Bring attention to and hopefully move a few more books. I can't imagine being okay with that.

Now the strange part about that, that is totally imaginable to me, not simply because clearly Hickenlooper is a Renfield. Ooh. I mean, look at the way that he walks in with his chipper attitude. Sure, Alex, I'll do evil with ya. No big deal.

The most famous thing you can do in the face of the hood. Yeah, this is Renfield shit. He eats bugs. Oh, man. Yeah. I don't know, man. I just, I find it disgusting on all accounts. Yeah. That is, that is, like, if you were willing to do that, then Alex could ask you to do anything

and you'd be like, yeah, fine. I would assume so. At least as it relates to like your own profit. Yeah. Like the two of you's, like, yeah, fine. I would assume so. At least as it relates to like your own profit, like the two views, your collaborative profit, if Alex asks you to eat shit, you'd do it. Yep. And I find these people to be repulsive. I think it's really difficult to take in a lot of Alex's ideas

about the situation in Israel and Gaza and the West Bank really difficult to take in a lot of Alex's ideas about, the situation in Israel and Gaza and the West Bank and all between the Palestinians. And I think it's terrible to take that stuff in. And on some level, it is less terrible to hear this content because it's mockable. And it's something that relates to Alex's personality and his psychology in a way that there's a distance there.

And I think that that is more palatable in some ways, but is actually way, way worse. Yeah. Than many of the things that he could, well, that's not true. He could cause more damage talking about other things, but this is a more damning portrait than almost anything else he could have done on that day. Yeah, I mean, I feel like this, what's fascinating about this to me, is I feel like this is a fully nonpartisan situation.

Like, if you listen to Alex do this. I mean, I would say book. No, no, I mean, like the way he did this. Like, it doesn't matter what you believe about conspiracy theories. If you are a person who has an idea of interacting with other human beings on the level, and that one of our biggest problems is that we're just not on the level with each other anymore. For you to listen to that and think, I still want to follow this man, you're lying to yourself.

The very least, this behavior is something that would require an apology. It would require Alex coming on air and taking stock of like totally. This was a big mistake. I didn't think it through or something like, I don't believe that that would be true where he'd say it.

No. But that would be the bare minimum. He seems to like say bare minimum today. That would be the bare minimum in terms of what I think would be acceptable as a way to move forward from this. Yeah. Yeah. It really is like, oh man, it would not matter. It would not matter. If Maria Bamford, who my adorant, have loved for fucking 22 odd years now, right? If she had suddenly done this shit, I'd be like, well, I mean, fuck, that's that then.

And like, there's no going back after this. And to the point, here is the name of this broadcast. World War Three emergency broadcast attack on Israel will lead to wider war with Iran. The subject matter of it is Hamas backed by Iranian Hezbollah has run his overrun southern Israel. Israel is in a state of war and is promised to unleash hell. That is what he's selling to the audience in terms of trying to draw them in. And then in there's no there's no. Oh, also we're going to sell my book for half of this fucking show. It's supposed to be it's part of the it's broker programming. Yeah, yeah, it may as well be.

It's disgusting. It's cynical and it's dark. It is. It is dark. So just better be a sublash. So to reiterate, obviously our hearts go out to the people in Israel and the Palestinian people who are suffering for the machinations of powerful people who exploit that power at their expense. It's tragic and awful. Terrorist acts are condemnable, holy, and they do not take away

from the fact that the Palestinian people deserve rights and freedom. And that's that, I guess. and Alex sucks. Yeah, I mean, I just, I suppose the, you know, if we had a good, if we had reacted right, after 9-11, we would have immediately over thrown the government in the United States and been like, we're at the very least, we're not fighting a war, you know, but that wasn't gonna, that's not to be. That's just not how human beings work, I guess.

It's the responses to things often end up having such calamitous consequences that are And they hurt average people, individuals, innocent civilians. And that is not, that's not the path forward. Yeah. And, um, Yeah. And the other thing that I keep thinking about, and this is, this is another thing, is like, we got to understand that you cannot own land. Well,

that's a broader conversation. And I, I mean, I, I, you know what I'm saying though? In some ways, I agree with you. In the same way, I feel like you shouldn't be able to own water. Exactly. You know, like, yeah. But maybe that's for another time. Yeah, probably.

Anyway, we'll be back for another episode. But until then, we have a website. Indeed, we do at SalahsFight.com fight dot com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at an allegendars core fight yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo and he's a x-curks key ddd to do to do to do to do to do to do to do oh you know what and now here comes the sex robots and the enchants of sure on the earth thanks for holding so i like some of the same color of a huge fan i love your work i love you

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