Knowledge Fight - #864: October 25, 2023

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

In this installment, Dan and Jordan cover the great meeting of the minds between "Daddy Hitler" Alex Jones and "Baby Hitler" Nick Fuentes.  It's not as much of a debate as it was advertised to be, but it's just as bad as one would expect.

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Sit around. Worship at the altar of dress lean and talk a little bit about Alex. June. Oh, indeed. We are. Dan Jordan. Dan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your brain spots today, buddy? My brain spot today is being given under duress. Hmm. I have become a victim of call out culture. Okay. All right. Okay. All right.

Um, no. The other day I went over and hung out with my friend Angela Lamp spare. Sure. Of course. And we were playing some video games. I got to play a little old, uh, super Nintendo game called Side Pocket. That is terrible. It's a terrible pool simulator. That sounds right. Uh, but a super Nintendo pool simulator has a certain charm to it. I believe that then we started playing Somario golf. Uh oh. Yes. Which kind? It's the new one, new ish one, super rush. I don't know if it's new, actually. Dangerous. A lot of fun. Okay. Golf simulators are tough because you have the ones that are like we golf. Sure. And there's essentially no control that

you can add to the ball or anything. And it's like, okay, if you memorize how to get through the holes and how much the wind is gonna affect things, yeah, you can basically just memorize the holes. Then there's like the PGA 2K games, which one of them I got because it was free on PlayStation. And I started trying to play it and there are too many controls. No, there's like wind speed, because spin, there's so many variables. High cuts, backwards. It's no longer a very fun thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now, the Mario is right in the middle. Right in the middle. And it's got Mario characters. Sure. So, got Wall-A-Wee-G. Naturally. Got my gal Rosalina. Okay.

A lot of fun. Okay. So, my bright spot isina. Okay. A lot of fun. Okay. So my bright spot is the playing a little bit of Mario Golf. Yeah. Now the reason I'm a victim of Call Out Culture. I was wondering. Is on our last episode that was not my bright spot.

Oh no. And Angela Lambsbury's partner got a little bit aggressive about how it wasn't. I mean, it's a strange thing. Yeah. It's because I hadn't downloaded it yet. At the time of the last recording. So anyway, I feel like I'm a victim.

Sure. A cancel culture. I'm taking a turn towards the right. I think it's about time. Yeah, this sensorious world that demands that I immediately talk about how great my head is. We had a good run as allies, and now it's time to become enemies I think

that's fine I am done with this woke that's what it's demand for immediate bright spots I think that's gonna be a great interview to give to like Tim pool or something later where it's like what what what was your change that turned you well well these mother fuckers about Mario golf I was a little too late to say that I enjoyed. Oh shit. The temple's gonna be like, I can't believe it. He's like, I hear this story all the time.

I think it's just the most regularly. This and Robert E. Lee statue is being torn down. It's, you know, trying to take our heritage of Mario golf. That is our heritage. So it's your bread spot? My bread spot is, bit, you know, I mean, I've been a bit a little bit down. Had struggles. You know, but, but when you get there, it's nice to like revisit. And so I started with the Terry Pratchett day squirrel novels. Sure.

You know, and just I'm pretending I know what you're talking about. No, you don't, but people who know will know. And it is like, it is a, it's pure joy to read those. Really, in a way that, you know, it's hard to explain to people, but it is just like, I can read, you know, I read six of them in the past couple of days. And it is just like a constant jolt of. It makes me think this might be some children's writing. Is that, is that so?

No, no, no, no, no, it's a, why a, YA. Terry Pratchett is probably second to Douglas Adams, right? Maybe in terms of being funny on the page. Uh, so yeah, that's not children's novel. But it's still like fairly easy to read. It's a good fact.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very, very, yeah. I mean, I would say that Woodhouse is also not for kids, but it goes fast. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, the appropriate, I think it's, I, let's a lot like stand up, you know, when you're talking about a stand up show, about an hour and a half is where it should be.

If you're talking about a funny novel, about 50,000 words is where it should be. Sure, sure. Those are the rules. I don't know, I don't know why it makes sense, but if you wanna be funny on the page and write a novel, it's about 50k. So you've been reading about squirrels, is what I'm hearing?

Uh, not too much about squirrels. Mm-hmm. I think there are some squirrels. But no, it's like- The title led me to believe there would be squirrels. So it's like, you know, imagine somebody was just transposing, you know, regular shit into a fantasy world, you know? Like instead of, you know, being like, oh, there's all these elves and stuff, the elves also have to deal with like, you know, like instead of, you know, being like, oh, all these

elves and stuff, the elves also have to deal with like, you know, regular problems. Maybe one of them is a moose. What are you gonna do? Yeah, one of them's a moose. There's magic. Sure. But there's also mundane human problems. Like we all have to feel. The moose has to pay taxes. The moose does have to be taxed. The moose and what does the moose do with the parking ticket? Now we find out. Right.. The most got a parking ticket. The most and what does the most do with the parking ticket? Now we find out right now you've got a novel. I can't wait to read this. Sounds right up my alley.

I'm selling it hard. So Jordan. Yeah. Today we have an episode to go over and we are back to non the fake interview. Sure. We're talking about October 25th, 2023. Yeah. That is last Wednesday. That's the day. Yeah, that's the day the Nick Fuentes came around for the much-vonted debate that he and

Alex were going to have. Is it a debate or is it just like a talking? It's certainly a talking. Now, here's what I want to say. Sure. I thought that in the context of the situation that's going on in Israel and Gaza right now, right? The last thing I wanted to hear was these two ding-dongs talk about it. And I will say that it's not really about that at all. That sounds right.

So there is a part of me that is relieved in as much as it's not them having a debate about like Palestinian rights or anything like that because I don't think I could tolerate that or stomach whatever they were going to say. That said It is about a number of other things and it's pretty bad. Okay. It is a really really bad interview slash debate right. It's not really a debate bad interview, slash debate. Right. It's not really a debate. No.

And Alex gets progressively drunk. Okay. I think he's pretty wasted by the end of it. All right. And it's just bad. It's just really bad. Is it the whole episode? Is it like the three hours?

It's most of it. Wow. It's like an hour and a half or so. And I will say that after the interview, Alex does interview somebody else and it's that guy that that Russian television guy who had Alex on recently. Oh yeah. And like buttered him up all that. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex is returning the favor and having him back on. Yeah. And we may cover that at another time, but I felt like this was plenty. Yeah. This is a protracted interview with Nick Fuentes.

So we're going to get down to business on this Jordan. But first, let's say hello to some new ones. Oh, I think that's a great idea. So first, let's see here, gotta open this up. Squatch, well, at least ski. Thank you so much, you are now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much.

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I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. I do wonder if that's me. What? Am I the terrible, awful, no good goals? I don't think so. I think being first of not to be insulting,

but Dan is a fairly very fairly common name. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. That's what the complication is. Right. Because it very easily could be the person, you know, who is the policy walk. It could be a friend of theirs or it could be me. I don't know.

I posit. I need to make a more unique name for myself. I say this to you. Regardless at the end of that, you are now Dan the Technocrat, so no longer are you Dan the Globalist Period. Is it if it is you or if it is not you? I don't know if these things are all

that mutually exclusive though. You can be a Globalist Technocrat. Anyway, let's start the episode. Anyways, let's do this. We start off at the beginning. There's a little bit of a preamble before Nick shows up. And there's a, there's some house cleaning who needs to go on. And that is, there's a hierarchy change. Right. Right. And we got to hear that. Oh, it's gone. Yeah. And we have a Nick Foyne jazz coming in here for at least an

hour and a half. He was just on American Journal with Chase Geyser hosting it because Harrison is hosting War Island Island is in federal prison for his free speech according to the judge and our wonder is free land. And so I build this because I guess we will have a debate as a debate, but really I just want to have a discussion with Nick Foyntes. So that's coming up. I think we should get him in here about 15 after next hour. So this isn't going to be a debate because Alex knows that Nick would mop the floor with him. No matter the argument, no matter which side either person was on, Alex would get smoked in a debate by Nick and he knows it.

Yeah, not even close. At the same time, the idea of Nick and Alex debating Israel and Palestine, that's a good marketing hook. You can see right here at the beginning that Alex tried to build this up as a debate in order to drive traffic, but he doesn't want the challenge of actually going up against Nick. Media star Bobby Barnes tried to debate Nick a few years back and it was fucking embarrassing and Alex was there for that. He knows better. Yeah. Chase Geiser is the new white dork hanging around Info Wars and I guess he's gotten the call to the big times now Now that Owen's in jail,

and Harrison got bumped up to primetime. Chase Geiser sounds so much like a, like a poorly built clone of Owen's. Right. I don't know much about this guy, except that he hosts a podcast about how tough Americans have it. And he was hosting the other day wearing suspenders.

Ooh. Chase Geiser. Is that how, I think you should say Chase Geiser a lot. This one brought to you by Chase Geiser. I'm out. Chase Geiser. Is that how I think you should say Chase Geiser a lot. This one brought to you by Chase Geiser. I'm out here chasing Geiser. I mean, that's some, I like the name. I assume the person's shit. Yeah, I did take a screenshot of him when I tuned in.

Yeah, I think it was on one of the Sunday night shows. He was hosting in Alex's stead. And I just took a screenshot and I titled it, who fuck is this? He didn't say his name. Oh, that's your hook, man. That's the only thing you've got. Was this fucking weirdo and suspenders? Oh boy. What is going on? Yeah, it was a tough tough look. It made me very uncurious about him and I stay, uh, such like, uh, like, uh, you know, corn, corn type suspenders, you know, you're in the fields type suspenders. Those kinds of things are like, uh, terrible Southern lawyer. I think more office suspenders.

Oh, that's not good. No, but it's Harkins back to a better time when whites had it easier in this country. And I think that's what chase guys are is trying to appeal to. That sounds right. So, um, Alex, uh, I think everything that I can tell at the beginning of this episode is him just signaling so hard, like, I don't want any trouble. We're not going to argue. I don't want to fight.

I know it's a debate, but I'm not actually going to challenge it. No, okay. I'm not having the debate according to the preface that he's put out that we are lopsided in our coverage of what's happening in the Middle East. Now, it would be my right to be lopsided if that was the case and that was my view, but I've actually got a 35,000 foot big global view on how the West is funding both sides of this conflict in a dialectic. And I'm trying to get people to see the big picture. And so hopefully I can do that. He doesn't. But I'll just tell him what I'm going to do when he gets in here. I know he's here in

the office probably watching now. I was really busy about to go on air, but I saw him walking on the hall or up for a one-on-air. And that is I caught about 15 minutes of him with chase guys this morning on American Journal. He just kept saying Alex Jones gives unbalanced coverage. Well, I'm not seeing him that says they're giving balance coverage of things and then doesn't. But I really do think I give balance coverage from my world view. I honestly believe the thing. Wait, I say it. I do. If I'm Nick and I hear hear this I know that I've already won any kind of debate or just disagreement we might have I mean yeah, this is preemptive capitulation because Alex knows he's fucked if he tries to disagree with Nick And it's too late to cancel he has to change the ultimate terms of the conversation

So Alex is also essentially abandoned the argument about whether his coverage is lopsided or not It may just be that his worldview is lopsided Maybe the coverage is right down the middle, but his views are all biased. How about that? That one that's a weak attempt at deflection I appreciate that I like that. I appreciate it's passive voice your own self. Yeah complete Compitulation to me. I don't know what me's gonna do man that guy's crazy the note that I took is Nick is gonna Nuh on Alex's phones This is sad but also enjoy the clear Clarity of Alex's voice at this point compared just keep a snapshot of that for how he sounds later

Gotcha, gotcha now granted. It's not as bad as that like AMA he did where he was sure it's not full on slurring yeah it's where that using them but it's very notable yeah so Alex he's he's like I'm so confident in what I'm about to do that I'm gonna lay out my strategy on air and I know Nick's listening I'm just gonna lay it all out so I'll ask him to repeat that statement today and then I'm just gonna go it all out. So I'll ask him to repeat that statement today and then I'm just gonna go, well here's today's stack of impolars. Let's just go through it. And it's a ridiculous amount of criticism of Israel.

And the only thing you can call pro-Israel is, I don't want open borders and to bring all the gauze and so over here. But that's actually anti-Israel, because Israel through it smokes persons and others in their government said, did you say smokes person? Nice. They want to send the godsons to America and your devil.

No, no, no. So when I'm concerned about Islam spreading everywhere and taking over, how does that because Islam doesn't like Israel down with Israel? It's false debate. And it's not real. And it's very frustrating. So for me, when I had my discussion with him, slash debate, it's not about proving my point. It's about getting people to see what I see. And maybe you see something different than I see, but man, that no matter whether you love Israel or hate Israel or your neutral honor, they're indifferent.

What the hell does that have to do with bringing Muslims here from all over the world that are almost all joining the left and electing leftist to Congress and a local government and literally taking over our society? So I guess his strategy is to show him a bunch of articles that they, like, infowers as reposted from other outlets and then be like, can't we all just hate Muslims?

That seems to be what he's articulating as a strategy. I'm concerned that I feel like Alex's main problem with this conflict is that Gossens will come to the United States and vote out white people. Um, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't think that that is sincere. Like, is it only problem? No, no, no. But I think that that's the only problem

that he recognizes he can probably get agreement from Nick on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's definitely... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nick hates non-whites, too. Yeah, I mean, Nick spends all this time screaming about like the heart seller act.

Right, right, right. He's a very serious opponent of non-whites too. Yeah, I mean, Nick spends all this time screaming about like the heart-seller act. Right, right, right. He's a very serious opponent of non-white immigration. Hey, Nick, I know you've got a lot of words to say that might make my words sound stupid, but we both hate non-whites, right? Don't wait. Especially immigration. Don't wait, come on, we don't want him over here.

Yeah. And I think that if there is any sense of common ground that's probably where it's gonna be yeah finally generation X and generations He truly can come together So Alex has an analogy in the way that he puts the Palestinian Israeli conflict and I think that it's dumb. I think I'm gonna love it. If you look I was covering the encryption bludge I'm already in each other in the 1990s. They still are today, but on his bad It doesn't mean you're for the Crips or the bloods, you know snoop dogs of a Crip

And I guess some of the other guys are bloods. Well, I'm not with Snoop Dogg and I'm not with two Pock and I'm not with any of this crap. So I'm gonna have a adult discussion here and just get past the statements that that that about oh who reports on things the best. This is a perfect time to bring in debit crypts and reblood publicans. I forget Jesse Ventura's book. Absolutely. Yeah. Oh, still can't pronounce the title. So what Alex fails to understand somewhat intentionally is that comparing this conflict to a battle between gangs like the crypts and bloods is actually wildly pro-Israel in

its framing. This is because it fails to take into consideration the power differential and the dynamic that exists between the two parties. Could the crypts keep all the bloods and all the civilians who weren't bloods but were also part of the same ethnic group as them in what amounts to an open air prison? Could the bloods shut off all the access to the crypts electricity, water and food? If you ask yourself questions like these, you can see how reducing the conflict in the Middle East down to being like two warring

gangs takes away very important detail that's necessary to take into account if you want to have any kind of realistic discussion about this. It's a very pro-Israeli government position to look at this as two warring gangs because it removes the aspect of their overwhelming power advantage. I suspect Alex knows this and he thinks that this kind of flimsy ass argument is going to play like if Nick were to want to counter this, yeah, it would be the easiest thing. Yeah, it's a little bit like if the crypts and the bloods were fighting, but the crypts had, you know, a $300 billion budget for weapons and like the backing of the United States military and and a complete overwhelming control over the territory that was given to them by a coalition of uh...

yeah I think I think there's you know you're describing a similar thing over the power imbalance that exists there and I think Alex is intentionally not recognized about. Right. So Alex is mad because he thinks, he has this idea that Nick thinks that he doesn't criticize Israel. And that's basically at the core of their tension. Right. And so he talks about that here a little bit. Okay. So when I saw him this morning, they said, oh, he's been standing over and over again.

One segment I watched, say twice, Jones doesn't ever criticize Israel, his coverage isn't fair. I just saw that. And I was just like, that's not true. And I just thought about my show yesterday or the day before or the day before that. Now, it's true on October 7th, when we saw the terrible images and the invasion into Israel and that mass murder and slaughter, including a bunch of liberal Jews that move there that are pro-Palestine and want a two-state solution or a one-state solution or think Israel should just totally integrate with the Islamic world

to see how that works if they do it. That's just suicide. And I was very critical because I'm oslaunched that big-buddy attack. And then when Israel now has overreacted, I've said this is terrible and is a trap and is bad for everybody and the children don't deserve this. So what I say is a four hour show every day. Yeah, and it's convoluted generally, but it's funny that Alex brings up October 7th. It doesn't remind everyone that he was doing, it wasn't to pro or anti-Israel coverage that day. He's doing an info commercial for his stupid book. Yeah. What about that? Wow, I mean that was the second hour. Right, you know, the same half, half of the show. Okay, an entire half of the show. Okay, but I mean, you know, like, the bulls had a good first half and then a bad second half. But you're not going

to be like, oh, let's remember the second half. No, dude, that would be like the bulls had a good first half and then a bad second half. That's, but you're not gonna be like, oh, let's remember the second half. No, dude. That would be like the bulls had a good first half and then the second half they decided they were gonna make soup. They decided to do an infomercial for Alex's book. Right. They're gonna do something entirely different

than basketball. I know. Yeah, ridiculous. So Alex doesn't talk about Israel all day, man. He's got bigger issues. Okay, he's got bigger issues. He's got bigger issues. Like how everyone wants you to eat bugs. You don't see the big picture. You don't see it. In fact, case in point, Tyson Foods is arguably the largest meat packer in the United States. And they've

got a lot of other products as well. Arguably signed a billion dollar deal. And they've got a lot of other products as well. Arguably. And they signed a billion dollar deal. And they've got a lot of other products. With Bill Gates and in consortium, to put into the breading on chicken, everything, all those TV dinners you get, you name it, bug protein. And they've got deals with the Food and Drug Administration. To just give insects a code number on the back, so that you don't know you're eating dangerous bug-kitein protein

that's absolutely linked to cancer, strokes, and so many problems. What the hell does that have to do with Israel? Four hours on Israel. I would jump off a cliff. I'm trying to stop our food supply from getting taken over by a bunch of damn bugs. That you will eat some bugs. Got you. Now, that's what I'm talking about stop our food supply from getting taken over by a bunch of damn bugs. That's you will eat some bugs. Gotcha now That's what I'm talking about. That's what he's talking about. I'm just trying to listen. I get your whole What's it from okay? I know I heard their name some time I'll talk to you about them later, but I got bigger fish to fry right They're trying to make me eat bugs instead of fish. Exactly. They're trying to make, I have bigger bugs to fry.

I have bigger bugs to fry. So Tyson isn't making decisions based on things from Bill Gates. What happened here, this is the story that Alex is lying about. They're investing in a company called Protix, which works in the field of insect ingredients. This isn't about putting bugs into your Tyson chicken, and Alex 100% doesn't understand Kighton. This is about pet and animal food production. Here's from a CNN article about their investment. Quote, Tyson doesn't make pet food but it does sell its

animal byproducts for use in the pet food and aquaculture market which feeds fish. The CFO said, byproducts like animal fats hides and inedible proteins if not used or reduced can end up in landfills. In this case, Tyson can send what's in the stomach of a cattle it has processed to a protex facility where it's fed to insects. For the company, creating a larger market for this type of waste can not only reduce waste, but offer a larger revenue stream. Tyson told CNN quote, one feature of being in the animal protein business is having to figure out how to derive value from waste. We saw this as an extension of our existing business. Yeah. I know that being force fed bugs is like the hot new kink in the conspiracy world, but covering the story that way is

fucking dishonest. Not a shock that it's ala kazango though because he's a lazy liar. But that's what he's talking about man. He's trying to save the food to buy from bugs. You know, I can't think of anything that you could do to one of those TV dinners that would be like oh, that's just qualified like I know what they are I'm if I walked into one of those and they're like oh this one has bug proteins and I'd be like Yeah, that's a difference is that from yesterday. They're not high quality, great things. And you know it. Yeah, I come into a contract here.

There was a brand of frozen, like pizza, not frozen pizza, but it would like come in those like frozen dinner trays. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the name of it was that's a pizza. Yeah. And I'm like, no, it's not. You're trying to harm. You know, it's not. Yeah're trying too hard. You know it's not. If you call it that's a pizza, you have said you're the answer to that is no, it is not. Yeah. So we get to the point where Alex brings in Nick. And I just found this framing to be really, really troubling.

Yeah. Big broadcast today. We're talking to naughty people. Nick Point has here was the next hour 38 like that and then the top Russian broadcaster Putin's buddy joins us how Jarrah's actually here with the Russians have to say we're gonna be evil Americans and exercise our free speech it's hard to look at Alex acting like that and not see him as like being a little kid really trying hard to get attention.

The kids learned that it gets more attention when it misbehaves, so when it's not getting any attention and they'll say, look at me, I'm over here doing all these things I'm not supposed to do. That's kind of the vibe. Alex has big misbehaving child of vibe. He wants to drop a glass onto the floor. Yeah.

Because in the dinner room. Because parents, yeah, they're having a dinner party, they're all having nice adult conversation and no one's paying attention to it. It's not about me. Yeah. It's not about me. Wow. What are you talking about? Who are these other adults? Yeah. And why are most of them younger than me? And I'm an old baby. I'm going to have a naughty conversation that hopefully will get people to post things

about me and get some outrage attention my way. Yeah. Great. So Alex is very focused on calling Nick baby Hitler throughout this entire interview. But nobody's saying it like fun. Oh, not like accused toward. Yeah. The vibe is off. Okay. Nick, I appreciate you coming on short notice. Yeah, great to be here a little bit of that. I'm not sure if you can get a little bit of that. I'm not sure if you can get a little bit of

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of that. I'm not sure if you can get a little bit of that of that. I'm not sure if you can get a little bit of that of that. I'm not sure if you can get a little bit of that that 20 minutes, probably 20 minutes to the last hour and a half was used. So tell me go to break in like five minutes You've got the floor go ahead. All right. Yeah, well, I did watch your show today and I watch your show yesterday and on Saturday I saw you call me out and I said about you that

You believe in these conspiracy theories about 9-11 about mass shootings But you said that Israel did not blow up that hospital on Friday, but it was the Palestinians. And I said that that's interesting because I mean to me, directionally, we know that Israel does a sort of thing all the time. They blow up hospitals, schools, mosques, and so, and he's going somewhere else here. But, um, but so I think it's left the room. Yeah, that was about to end. Thanks Alex. He's just gone up and left. Thanks for confirming what I thought might's left the room. Yeah, that was about to end. Alex, he's just gone up and left. Thanks for confirming what I thought might have happened, Alex. Keep track of that.

That's time number one. I see why he might get progressively drunk. Oh, yeah. That makes sense. So there's some important stuff to take into consideration here, just in this first clip. The first is how bulletproof Nick is with the Hitler stuff in Alex's arena. They're just joking about how it was the baby and baby Hitler. They got Nick into trouble.

This is like a very dangerous level of normalization of his characterization as essentially a young Hitler. Yeah. That's fucked up. Yeah. So one of the things that's kind of interesting there is like weather or not, you know, regardless of the reality of what happened with the hospital, it does make a good point in terms of directionalness. Like the way that Alex constructs conspiracies, he should, based on what available information

there is, his conspiracy would make sense to go the other direction. Yeah. And that is kind of a strange point. It's glaring in its obviousness. You know, like, that's not how you would, you know how you would do things, and you don't do them like that. Yeah. Yeah.

So, this is clearly a deliberate thing on your, yeah. So Nick gets to a point about the way that the GOP and conservatives are responding to this. There's only, it seems to be two varieties of response. Okay. So the thing that I've noticed about conservatives is this. This is my perspective. And I just want to clarify, I don't think you're dishonest.

I don't think I've accused you of lying or anything like that. I've said on my show, we have a disagreement. I think we have a fundamental disagreement. But what I've noticed is that a lot of conservatives, there's really like two acceptable positions right now. And one acceptable position is that you're pro-Israel. And you see these guys like Shapiro and Levin and Prager and the usual suspects and they all want us to go

and give Israel all our money and send our aircraft carriers and we have to support the moral case for Israel. And then on the other side, the other acceptable position is you can be anti-Palestinian, where you maybe don't talk so much about Israel or the Zionist influence and instead you say, well, the problem here is these domestic protests with Muslims and that Hamas is like BLM and that Hamas doesn't actually hate Israel. They just hate white people like the left. And to me, I look at these two acceptable positions and they're sort of the same.

It's like, heads, I win, tails, you lose. You can either be pro-Israel or anti-Palestine, but you can't be in this position where you say I'm pro-America. And actually, that means that I'm actually a little more anti-Isestine, but you can't be in this position where you say I'm pro-America, and actually that means that I'm actually a little more anti-Israel in this case than I am anti-Muslim. And so that's where I'm coming from. I want to be the guy that says, you know, I'm actually more offended by the Zionist infiltration of America. It doesn't mean I support mass Muslim migration, but that's to me the bigger urgency Muslims haven't taken over America's Zionist staff

So that's where I'm coming from and I just think maybe we disagree on that All right Nick point has America first foundation dot or geo rumble Nick jave point has I think that Nick is pretty fairly assessing the Conservative positions on the current situation and Alex probably doesn't appreciate it because Nick is claiming that the American First pure like that the high ground is his. He has the purity of the the the America first position. Alex is so befuddled to come with something to say in response to that. He just goes into plugs for Nick. I mean, yeah, that's. It's also important that you do not lose sight of what Nick actually believes. He's using the term Zionist as a proxy for Jewish because

it makes things seem more political than bigoted. You may notice that the three examples of people who are on the side of Israel and the conservative world are all high-profile Jewish men. Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, and Dennis Prager. It would have been super easy for him to find other conservative non-Jewish figures who hold almost identical positions, but that doesn't serve the purposes as well. There's these subtle things in here. Wow. When he says usual suspects, it kind of, he doesn't mean, you know, conservative talking heads in a general sense.

Right. Right. And it's pretty clear. It is really important to understand the way that dynamic plays throughout this because there are going to be moments where Nick is very clearly saying something That is Atrociously anti-smartic. Yeah, and because of the way he's saying it Alex is just like you bad buddy Ah, yeah, and and that leaves it in a position where it's like I don't I who knows? Yeah, who knows what Alex actually believes or if he sees the, the cryptoness of it. Yeah, I feel, I feel a very strange reaction coming from so many different people that it

does feel now is a great time to be in, in Nick's position because the, the incoherence of every, every position seems, you know, surrounding. It's very exploitable. It's so easy. Like, oh, you're, what you're thinking doesn't make sense. Yeah, obviously. It is not, you know, surrounding. It's very exploitable. It's so easy. Like, oh, you, what you're thinking doesn't make sense. Yeah, obviously. It is not cut. You throw a stone. You see five people don't make sense. Yeah.

So Alex is throwing it out to break here. And I just think that this is like, if you're Nick, you're just like, I have one. Yeah. Like, you have nothing, Alex. We'll come back. I'll respond for a few minutes. I know what you just said.

We continue on with our topics. And then hopefully We were able to do this with yay. We can get some a little bit towards the end some other topics Cuz yeah, I just don't just focus on Israel. I'm not saying you do that but some people do it I'm really sick of it. We'll be right back stay with us. Hey, I invited you on to have this debate about my positions on Israel But I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it all day. I mean, you just can't promote a boxing event, where after the first round, they start playing chess.

Yeah, I mean, like this, I mean, it's obviously not exactly the same thing, but it would be like, if I invited Alex on to debate anti-communism, and then I was like like if I invited Alex on to debate anti-communism Yeah, and then I was like I don't want to talk about anti-communism. Oh What about banking right what a book banking? That's not why you're here You're here for the quote-unquote debate that you were advertising It's ridiculous. You're you're here

Because as you pointed out at the beginning you got baby Hitler to talk about Israel. That's the billing. That's the idea. Well, and let's have baby Hitler talk about the creation of his most horrendous enemies. But the reason that it was like in some ways acceptable for Alex to do this is because he presented it as if it was going to be a debate. He was going to be on the other side to participate. Now that it's actually come time to pay this off, he knows he can't handle that. Now he's like, oh, he doesn't have the goods to be the other party in that conversation. And so now he's like, let's not do that. That's because it's not a bait.

It's just daddy and baby Hitler talking. They actually call themselves that a little bit later. Great. So Alex has his rambling response when they come back from commercial. Okay. So what I'm saying is there's a larger calculus here where the globalists that you and are bringing in all these Muslims, they're organizing them to be socialist communist and and to join the leftist parties where it's whether it's the Democratic Party here or the Labor Party in the UK. And I see their power really rising and then joining with the left.

Now I've seen a few good spots like Dearborn, where they said, we're right-wing, we're pro-America, we're not gonna put up the LGBT flag, we're gonna put up the American flag. And I see them saying, hey, Muslims protesting, saying we're not gonna have drag queen pedophile time at our school. So I don't hate Muslims either. I just see them as billions of people that main religion

says we're going to take you over. And then I see them all out of the left to block see that combination. I'm like, whoa. So I didn't get a call as you guys like to say. And like you have two acceptable things. We pro-Israel to the hill and say murder all of the Palestinians.

Or you can just bash the Palestinians. I'm saying, like AOC saying she's going to bring them here. I'm like, no, you're not. So that's not me taking the hold on. What am I supposed to say now? And yet, yeah, sir, I mean, that is my legit. I'm against open borders, period. I'm on record, Nick.

So there, I just look like a minute and a half. You can now respond. I would say you are on record. Yeah, so I guess his whole point that he's just trying to keep things in the safe territory of is, I don't want Muslims coming here. Yep. Yep. And as long as he can keep the debate in that water, There's not going to be any problems and I think you understand that. No. And so that's why you want to try and air on this side and not let Nick really voice any

of his perspectives, which are going to be trouble. Ah, yeah. Yeah. You can't, although I mean, I, but he wouldn't have to, you know, it's almost like you would think that Nick would find a way to To really exploit the situation, you know being a horrific horrific anti-Semite you know But like in a way that would be Acceptable, you know, you know, he does yeah, oh like people who are not otherwise white nationalists could listen to his and be like Oh, that's actually a very good point totally great. Yeah great damn and be like, oh, that's actually a very good point. Totally. Great!

Great, Dan! Dan! You know what I wanted to hear? That was exact words! No, I mean, I think that with one major fuck-up, later, we'll get to, I think Nick could have stood to radicalize a great deal of Alex's audience with an interview like this,

because he does keep things generally within that sort of crypto language that is meant to skate by people's under the radar. Yeah, sure. No, I mean, when you see a conflation of a religion and ethnicity and a state, happening with no political leaning. It doesn't matter where it's coming from, because that's happening from all directions. So in his case, that is perfect camouflage to pretend like he's not one of those people despite the fact that he's the worst of those people.

And I think that it helps when you have also, you know, one of Alex's great tricks that he's played over the years is the idea of the, I'm above the left-right paradigm. Yeah. And whenever Nick is able to, as he does in this next clip, make it like, so there are these right-wing Zionist Jewish people over here. Yeah. And then the left-wing AD Jewish people over here. And then the left wing ADL people over here,

he has this, I'm rising above that left right paradigm. And I just think Alex is deeply, deeply in over his head. Yeah, I just think that the, you know, this dialectic that you're talking about, it's true that there's factionalism in Israel. It's true that there's factionalism in jewelry, but they are all on the same team fundamentally. And we know this because ADL was that.

I'm gonna center the camera, I said, when I get up, it's not, you're not bad, just two of us, but. So the ADL, which you mentioned, they've had some of their employees tearing down these posters, but then the ADL fired them. Jonathan Greenblatt went on MSNBC,

and he demanded that they fire some of their pro-Palestinian commentators, which MSNBC then did. Now a couple months ago, there was a big dispute between some of these right-wing Zionist Jews and the ADL and people like myself and Keith Woods said the ADL is a problem because it's a Jewish group that's clearly controlling speech on social media. You know, Greenblatt goes and brags and says he's got a line in with YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and he tells them what to ban and what not to ban. We said, so we should get rid of the ADL.

Then all these Zionist Jews come in and say, well, the problem isn't the ADL. They said the ADL has a noble mission, which is to fight anti-Semitism. They said the problem with the ADL is that they attack people that are prosionist. And so in other words, the right-wing Jews, they don't really have a problem that a Jewish group control speech to have a problem that there's friendly fire sometimes. Because now, fast forward a month later,

and all the Zionist critics of the ADL and the ADL are on the same side supporting Israel and Shapiro, who was criticizing the ADL like the COA did a year ago, he's now retweeting the ADL are on the same side supporting Israel. And Shapiro, who was criticizing the ADL like the COA did a year ago, he's now retweeting the ADL. And the ADL's on MSNBC saying, you gotta fire all your pro-Palestine commentators. And so I'm a guy that's looking at this dialectic

where you're either part of a Zionist right, or you're part of this Jewish left. And I'm in the middle saying that I'm an America first Christian. And don't want to be influenced by Zionist or by atheist liberal Jews at the ADL. So, you know, and that's why I say there's this false dialectic that's being given, which you say you're not participating in. But again, there's a lot of people they want to focus on and I watch your show. You focus on the Muslim immigration and you say well

They're sending them to America, but there's Muslim refugees being created by Israel's wars Yeah, yeah, and they had a 80-year-old promotes open borders. So let's shift here So all jury is on the same page Despite the appearance of fictionalism good to know also Alex clearly is either uncomfortable sitting there with Nick Or he had to fire his camera person because he just keeps getting up to adjust the shot allegedly yeah It was Owen running the camera. What's going on here? I mean that's possible But also I would find it very I genuinely believe it would be discomforting to sit next to Nick point as for any length of time Maybe I would be more worried about sitting next to Alex,

just from a personal safety standpoint. Agreed, agreed. Nick is a lot of things, but he, I don't think he's gonna take a swing at me. Discomforting though in the sense of like, emotionally, he's got an aura of, holra. Yeah, he was. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha happy Halloween Jordan. Happy Halloween. All right. Okay.

I also think that Alex had an employee who was tasked with bringing him booze. Yeah, that makes sense. And maybe that person got fired. That makes sense. So he has to go off to the side. Yeah. Who would take that? Yeah.

So Alex should not want to shift gears after what Nick said, because a lot of what he said doesn't match up with his worldview. And it should require some kind of back and forth. Nick is directly telling Alex that his position is not good. And Alex is just ignoring that, deflecting by saying that the head of the ADL is for open borders and then moving along. And Nick directly there brought up Alex's safe harbor point, which is that the Muslims are all coming in.

And he pushed it aside. Yeah. Now Alex was like, aha, but my safe harbor point. Ah, let's shift gears. Yeah. You almost couldn't be like a better platform being offered to Nick to allow him to suck up Alex's followers. If you're just watching this,

you're seeing a poised kid who clearly knows his stuff who can articulate his positions in a way that doesn't involve distraction and yelling and then you have Alex. But like I said, he clearly, Nick fucks up with the InfoRose audience a little bit later, in a way that is spectacular. What Nick is doing is very clearly signaling

to his more extreme audience while making things palatable enough for most of Alex's audience to accept. If you look at the comments on Alex's site, it's clear that the message was received by at least some of the audience. Here's one, quote, Jones diverted away every opportunity about the JQ. I saw an expert distractor controlling the narrative

by flattery and other tricks. People need to understand how deep the jewelry is in every segment of American life. This is what makes underlying messages about, though it's packaged in what's socially acceptable packaging, like complaints about the ADL and all this has become so mainstream and common within Alex's World view that it provides incredible cover for what Nick is actually about yeah

Just that Jews should not be essentially allowed to have anything in the United States. Yep Yep, I mean what else is there to say that's what's going on? It's it's Unfortunate there's no defense. Mm-hmm. There's no defense against it. You know, what else is there to say? That's what's going on. It's it's unfortunate. There's no defense. There's no defense against it They know what are you gonna do? So Alex Understands that hey, I could play in about the ADL all the time Nick seems not like the ADL to let's do this Yeah, so let's shift gears Just because some of these groups have agendas doesn't mean when I have an agenda of not having open borders and bringing in new Democrat voters in a brainwashed against the country, that's my perspective. And it isn't through the lens that you're saying. So let's expand on that. The ADL is along with the Southern probably law center creates the curriculum on records come out Congress that teaches in schools. We're talking fifth graders, first graders.

Congress that teaches in schools, we're talking fifth graders, first graders, that it's inherently bad to be white. You have an original sin in your bed. Well, that's like Hitler saying you're bad because you're Jewish. So when I said, the head of the ADL is the closest thing to Hitler I've seen, not the people, oh, you're saying he's a Nazi. How ridiculous. No, I'm saying China is very race-based. So I said, GGPing and his policies are pretty close to Hitler. And then when the ADL is out teaching the Christians and Catholics are inherently bad, and that critical race theory to first graders teaching them that they're bad because of their color is incredible child abuse, but they're also in the left trying to teach kids they're

another gender to cut their genitals off and sterilize them. So, and your bad kids, because the earth's dying, and they show them videos of polar bears that can't swim, which isn't true and say they're all dying. Sorry, what? They're up five times. It's humans are bad, humans are ugly, you're all guilty, white people are the worst of all the groups, and you know, all this crap. And then I'm literally, when they have, you know, ADL Gala's brother, they ain't talking about you. They're calling for my arrest and they're behind the law firms trying to, like, it's a shitty deal. $9 billion this year, they spent trying to shut us down as in the federal violence. So, so, I mean, tell you the proofs and the puttons, okay? They are literally bashing and

attacking and their main target is me and Trump. So, the puttings in the eating, but so so brother. So if I understand correctly. Yeah. I have invited Nick Fuentes on to have a debate where I tell him how hard I have it. Yeah. Yeah. He's flailing. He's not to drown.

Yeah. Yeah. Basically. So it's this is just standard extreme right wing talking points about how tough white people have it and then a self-aggrandizing speech about how much more dangerous Alex is to the ADL than Nick Yep, if I were Nick I would just ignore all of this and move on to the next point because none of it even requires a response Yep, but there's an interesting dynamic that's going on here And it's clearly that Alex is personally offended that Nick would suggest that he's controlled opposition

Yeah, 100%. That's basically Alex's main mission is to push back against this idea that because Nick said that he got the call on his show on Nick show. He said, Alex got the call, obviously from the Jewish people. Yeah, his Jewish handlers actually laid that out specifically. Yeah, that makes sense. The Jewish handlers called him and told him, okay, you've got to turn on Nick and yay. All right.

And so Alex is offended by that. Sure. And I think that the main point of the interview is actually about like, my name is my name. He's turning into Marlow. You were mean to me. Yeah. And now I am going to try and be mean back to you,

but all Nick really has to do is go neater, neater, neater, grandpa, and then, you know, it's, I like, I like, explains that, like, essentially, that feeling of like, I'm not controlled opposition. And then Nick deals with that in record time. Yeah. So I have a very quite frankly, a sophisticated understanding of dialectics. And I, and I maybe, maybe it's over people's heads. I'm not trying to be arrogant.

And so tell me how I communicate this properly to people. But I'm sure as hell not getting a call and I'm not part of the group is controlled, I literally see Jews as diverse people. I see all these groups as diverse people, and I'm really trying to get people to say, hey, let's get bugs off the menu. Let's not cut the coal power plant saw menu. Let's not cut the cold-power

plant sogs. Let's not tell kids they're inherently able because of what color they are. I'm opposing the globalist agenda, whoever's behind it. I mean, the thing is about Jews is that what defines them as they reject Jesus Christ, whether they're liberal atheists or their religious Jews, they don't believe in Jesus. And the only reason for what it's worth that I said that she got the call and sort of a glib way is because after yay and I appeared on your show, you went on Steve Crowder two days later and said that me and Kanye or gay for Hitler and you went on this rant about how much you hate

Hitler and said that, you know, we fetishize Hitler and all this sort of stuff. And it just seemed to me it came across like damage control. Now, maybe that, I love, baby, maybe you don't fetishize him, but yeah, I mean, was drooling over it. Well, I think that he likes to controversy. And at the same time, there's a lot of people that are fascinated with Hitler. Michael Jackson was fascinated with Hitler. And he was. I mean, I mean, evil can be fascinating. Here's the deal. Oh, here's the deal. So I think I think it's, it's a very interesting thing for like Nick to just be able to be like, look, and your feelings were hurt. Why'd you take that so seriously?

Yeah. Like you're talking shit about me. I was talking shit about you. Yeah. Yeah. It's classic shit talk. Yeah. Come on, man. But Nick is such a worm. Yeah, he is. I get it. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's such a worm. It's, it's, um, I want to, I want to bully you. I want to bully you so bad. It's, uh, probably something that he evoked in a lot of people based on the, uh, videos that I've seen of him when he was in high school. Yeah. I mean, it, it makes me feel guilty, but it is, it is truly like it is his faults. He needs to be bullied. I'm sorry.

You've made your choices, man. You wake up every morning and you do that. Well, I always hate to agree with you because I'm so anti-bullying and I stand by that position, but I do think that Nick's behavior does elicit a reaction of hostility in people. You made your bad. And it's because there's a severe passive aggression in it. Yeah.

And he probably knows that and it's used as a tool in terms of eliciting outrage from people. And then he uses our fake, uh, his sympathy bullshit. Well, oh, no, you shouldn't be mean to me. I'm just a little warm. Fuck him. Fuck him. Fair.

So, um, look, getting, they get, talked about Hitler a little bit here. Already. And so why not? Yeah. Why not talk a little more? Now, here's an interesting thing. What?

Alex seems to be the one who wants to talk about Hitler. Well, now that he can, yeah, Nick doesn't seem all that interested. Yeah, I Reject the ADL saying America's Hitler and if Christians don't do it, we say your Hitler screw the ADL screw that guilt screw the white guilt go to hell Fuck you ADL, but at the same time. I've actually done a study. Okay. I'm gonna write this book. I'm gonna bring this into your here. Did you study? Hitler speaks a series of political conversations with that off Hitler. That's not a study.

Nick, how many books you written, a read by Hitler or a bout Hitler? I have an red book. I'm not a Hitler fetish. I read about, well, so here I am saying I'm Hitler fetish. It's not only to understand who Hitler was. I read probably 200 books on Hitler. It's too many books.

It's too many books. It's too many books. It's too many books. It's too many books. I read probably 200 books on Hitler. Whoa. And I read with the Germans that were, that's just a German high command, tried to kill him in 1943 and 1944. Well, me. Because he was out of control and gonna kill everybody and ended up killing 22 million Germans and 28 million Russians. But is that why Hitler is canceled today for that reason?

Or because Hitler was a messy, and a maniac that thought he was God, he was anti-Christian. I think though that people don't like him today because he was anti-Jewish. Good point. That is a big part of it. I was I was wondering why was Hitler canceled today. Yeah. Why is he canceled? Shadow Bams. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Alex is weird. I like that moment, though, of the like, why do you think that German high command tried to kill?

Munch tell me. Oh yeah. That is the smuggest. He's a guy who's doing almost like a rope a dope. You know, he's just letting Alex burn out some of this energy. Yeah, go for it, buddy. Yeah.

Oh, God. Did you have a little too much sugar today, kid? All right, you just have a run round. And by sugar. I always have a little run round. By sugar, I mean, whatever it is you're doing. Yeah. Fixing the cameras. Oh, you're fixing the camera, right?

Yeah. All right. So Alex is like, hey, man, can you imagine what it would be like if Hitler wasn't charged? And Nick can very easily say, that's not what I want. What do you think the world would be like under Hitler's view today? Most of us would be dead.

I mean, I'd be here, but you know. But I'm not arguing for Hitler. I think what both yay and I were expressing is that there is this Jewish control matrix which puts Hitler in a special category. He wasn't the only dictator. He wasn't the only one who had concentration camps in the war. No, it's true. I mean, Andrew Jackson's sister and brother died in the British

concentration. So where were we two? Eisenhower and concentration camps against the Germans. And we in turn, the Japanese and on and on. That's right. Eisenhower committed a real crime. He probably star four million Germans at that. Yeah.

And you know, because you're an expert. So I mean, you understand this. Oh, my God. Hitler's in a special category because the Holocaust narrative is what casts a shadow over the entire American political landscape. And, you know, we have to talk about Jewish power right and left. You can say F the ADL, but would you say F the ZOA, the Zionist organization of America

with more climb? You know, I get Jews thinking they deserve it. Israel's tiny. Don't. And I don't know a lot of Jews that are really nice smart people. Stop. And they're not going anywhere. They have nuclear weapons. And so I'd like to see the wars end. I'd like to see it not be a football issue. And so I'm a realist too. Israel's not going anywhere. And the

Arab countries won't take the people out of the West Bank or Gaza because they want to keep the thing going. So yeah, I mean, it's true. I don't have a hard on for the Jews. I don't have a hard on for the average Jews. These diseases patriotic and their people and their thing for their club. It's like Crippson Bludge. Oh, we're back to that. Okay. Cool. Back to that. Great. To be clear, that wasn't what Nick and Yeh's point was. This is a nice way of dressing up their point and packaging that Nick thinks is unassailable meant to hide his very assailable actual position. Yeah, it is somewhat fair as a point that Hitler wasn't the only bad leader who did awful things to innocent people That's fine. You win this round. The Holocaust does resonate with people a little bit more than some other instances of attempted genocide

And I think there's some reasons you could come up with to explain that dynamic instances of attempted genocide, and I think there are some reasons you could come up with to explain that dynamic. One is that it coincided with one of the most traumatic wars in history that involved most of the world. The fact that this program of extermination was happening simultaneously with the World War is something that makes it more impactful to people and has more direct contact with a ton of other countries' actual experience. There's also the fact that it was a program of extermination

being carried out by a major industrialized country. So there's a number of factors that play into this that you can use to say, this does feel a little bit different to people. And I don't know if that's fair or not, or if it reflects a negative impulse in people's minds, I'm not sure, because there are certainly more atrocities than the Holocaust that have happened.

Sure. Sure, but I don't think that Nixon Alice's is meaningful. No, no, I mean, you know, the idea is like, let's keep it at the forefront, so it doesn't happen again, right? But considering the circumstances that didn't do shit, so who knows? So as to this claim that Eisenhower starved like a million Germans, I think Alex said

4 million, but that's not proven. This is a claim that originates with a 1989 book called Other Losses by a guy named James Bach. The book argues that starvation and disease deaths intentionally inflicted on German POWs were hidden in the other losses statistic in Army reporting. Many historians have said this is complete bullshit and that the other losses category includes people who were released or who were transferred to other camps, and that there's no evidence that there was secretly a stat of starved Germans.

That would be a very strange stat to keep. The author has no training or expertise in the field, and the claims made in his book are not accepted by the vest bulk of historians. There are some red flags there. Oh yeah. His book is super important among neo-Nazi types, though. They love the red flag. They love to point to this book's unfounded conclusions to deflect criticism of Hitler and

the Third Reich, which is basically what Alex and Nick are literally doing here. Sure. You may notice at the end there, Nick asks if Alex would say, fuck the right wing Jewish organizations, like he did with the ADL, then instead of answering, Alex jumps right into his talking points about how Israel isn't going away, how this is like the bloods and the crypts. If you're Nick sitting there, you have to feel pretty confident. Like, he directly refused to answer a direct question, you asked him. The person sitting across from me was floundering. Yeah. I, I, it's one of the earliest things.

And it's one of the things that I still hate so much about, you know, like growing up where I did is just like the worst people refused to say the F word. The worst people just fucking willing to watch puppies die. People were like, hey, don't swear. And that's just Nick Fuentes just being like, and are you willing to say F the F fucking? And it's fucking you. And it's fucking fuck you, you fuck.

And it's like Alex used to be like, don't say piss on the show. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm so fucking sick of that shit. I will say like incredibly hateful things and demonize immigrants, but don't say damn on the show, this is a family show. It is just one of those very first signifiers of, oh, there are things that are meaningful and things that aren't, and the people who care about things that aren't meaningful

are usually fucking evil. But I also would argue that there's probably a decent chance they don't really care about that, and this is what Paul Joseph Watson would call virtue signaling. Yeah, well, I mean, that's what I'm talking about. Okay, fair enough. Yeah. So Alex believes that the ADL stir in the pot, sure, in order to make more money. Sure.

And then Nick says some bad stuff. Here's the thing, I think you're an honest guy. I've always said that. I think you're an honest guy. You do have a sophisticated worldview for 20, 30 years, even putting that out. And that's why I've always been a fan of yours. I think where we disagree is that you see some, some benefit to allying with these Zionist Jews. And I'm against both the right and the left wings of jewelry in the world. I think that they're both toxic. Well, let's be clear. I've been smart enough when the ADL attacks me and these groups to to not then blame all Jews. They get you, the ADL is getting record contributions right

now. Come on. Yeah. They go out and stir up stuff and put badgendas with Jews name on it to get attacked to get more money. So, so I'm not allied quote with whatever group you're saying. Zionist, I think you, well, because when you say that they're after, when you say the world economic forms after Nenyahoo and Israel's diverse and it's true, Soros and the ADL are against Nenyahoo. I don't think that makes Nenyahoo good. I don't think that makes design as good. Okay, let's just be clear. That's what we're getting at.

What are we getting at? Yeah, I would actually, let's be clear. Yes. What are we getting at? What are we getting at? What exactly are we getting at? Because I know what Nick's getting at. Let's be clear.

I know exactly what Nick's getting at. Yeah, big time. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Alex, careful here, but... How do we get again? Yeah. So, I think that what Alex is doing there is the World Economic Forum is brought up. And so, like, aha, here, I will jump to my globalist stuff.

Right, right, right. But Nick doesn't care. And Nick, like, one of the reasons I find him an interesting figure in this InfoWars space, one of the reasons why way back an interesting figure in this info war space. And one of the reasons why way back when Nick first started coming around, it was my opinion that Alex should stay the fuck away from him. And that's because Nick has a freedom about him. In the same way that like a Max Kaiser is able to talk shit to Alex to his face, Nick doesn't

care about Alex's stuff. Like he has his own brand, he has his own thing, he has his streaming platform that he uses, and he will not go along with things just to appease Alex as someone who's like giving him a space to talk. Yeah. He will exploit this for whatever it's worth, but it's humiliating for him to not stand by his positions.

And so his position is this Bilderberg stuff, World Economic Forum, whatever. It's Jewish people. And Alex just needs him to not be like that, because Alex needs the game and Nick won't go along with it. Nick doesn't needs the game. And Nick won't go along with it. Nick doesn't play the game. Nah. Can you quote it? Because I remember you said Alex needs to focus on Zionism and this and that. Not on Bilderberg and things that don't matter. Brother, they're making their call in the shots. I mean, that, that is, they got the big swing and deck. So I mean, you don't know

that. I'm not proud of it. I think that's where the disagreeing lies, because you put the blame at the feet of Klaus Schwab and the builder Burg as an institution and the black rock, which should feed into your thing. He's Jewish. Larry Fink. That's the top of the pyramid. Yeah. And Larry Fink is Jewish and Larry Fink has resumed it.

But I mean, Klaus Schwab's the grandson and son of top, the number three Hitler's dude. I mean, is grandson and the top man. It's not June. My own grand humanization. I mean, you all know, Harari literally saying humanity's over worse scum. We're nothing. It sounds Hitler was saying kill most groups, which was bad. Harari says we're all done. I mean, nail that. That's like Hitler 10.0. Yeah. Well, I think the transhumanist thing is fashionable. But when you talk about Bilderberg, one of the members of the steering committee is Jewish, one out of the two of the co-chairs of steering committees. And go through that. I'll give you the floor on the shut up. Wait, you want him to go through

that? Are you saying that you want him to list every Jew in the world economic for him? Because that's essentially what the game Nick is going to play is he's willing to. And he's going to he's going to say, ah, yes, your conspiracy, uh, uh, infrastructure and all this stuff that your narratives are built on is actually mine. Yeah. Yeah. Woof. Yeah.

Yeah, it is, it is one of those things, you know, like also real quick. I love the moment I because I'm gonna forget this if I don't say it sure the the moment where he says transhuman is fashionable Yeah, and Alex just exhales heavily. Yeah, yeah, it's just a That didn't work. He just he just has like basically Delegitimized one of my entire terror conspiracies. With a with a pad on the head. Yeah. It's fashionable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People are having a lot of fun with that.

Yeah. I'm sure you're. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's very good. It's goddamn 20 something year old kid is clowning me. Well, I mean, that's the problem though, is that everybody who says who gets heat for not playing the game Eventually the game comes to them is like would you want to play and they were like oh? We wanted to play from the jump right that would is that would have been awesome to play the game Yeah, and Alex is used to deal so Alex is trying to do that and Nick is like no I actually don't want to play the game and everyone is fucking blown away by this fact Right, and we've see we saw that it's almost be the entire dynamic of the A interview

Yeah, they did was like constant offers of like This is what we're supposed to be doing. This is how they supposed to go and now I mean he's it is like the idea of somebody Actually for going money in order to not play the game blows their fucking brains out. But, but that's bullshit because he's for going this money. Right. Nick is still getting money. No, no, no, I know the money from large donors and Bitcoin and shit. Sure, but that's the I that's like the idea that the game brings to you. You know, if you if you play you will get all the money. Right. You know, you can, you's an illusion. Yeah, I think knows it's an illusion Yeah, and it can be taken away from you the moment the game decides it should be yeah

Yeah, so Alex wants an egg to get into this for some reason great. Um, I need to say it's to leave again Oh, I'll give it the rest of the segment. We had eight minutes But respond to me you said oh, why is he focusing on stuff that it doesn't matter and you said, oh, why is he focusing on stuff that doesn't matter? And everything's that quote isn't powerful. Let me tell you, the WF and the builder bird group, I mean, they are calling these shots. And they don't like Netanyahu for the reason. I think it's like Trump, he's trying to set his own thing up.

Go ahead, I'll set it up. Yeah, so our disagreement back then is I said, the U10 to focus. I got to hear peace in my ear. Okay, I'm going gonna get a fresh coffee. I'm listening everywhere. Fresh coffee coffee. I'm hosting right now.

Amazing. Hey, baby Hitler. I'm gonna hold the phone. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. There's your headline. Ha ha. Yeah, coffee, sure.

Believe it. Yeah, I buy it. Coffee. Now you're gonna fresh cup of coffee. Yeah, while you go ahead and say your horrible shit, I am going to disappear for a minute. It is very convenient that as the worst of things come out of your mouth, my picture will not be next to you. Yeah, let's see about that. Yeah. I was on Nick. You're the new home. I would you like that. The Nazi takeover of course not, not America first, but well, he can hear me in the

East. The difference of opinion is where the true seat of power actually is. And the Bilderberg group and the World Economic Forum, these are institutions which host multinational companies and representatives from governments. So Bilderberg does not, in my opinion, have any real power. The power is the people that attend builderburg. The world economic forum doesn't have power. The power lies in the people that attend the world economic forum.

You know, what is the world economic forum? It's a meeting of 3,000 multinational corporation leaders and government officials. The power rests in those people, like Alex said, the technocrats, the planners. Now when you look at the demographics of who those people are, the top hedge fund managers, the people that are running the major companies, and Larry Fink of BlackRock, there's a large Jewish representation. There's a huge overlap between the people that attend Bilderberg, and by the way, the people that donate to Benjamin Nenyah

whose prime minister campaign in Israel. And I think that the transhumanist sort of thing when people talk about the Carnegie Endowment and the State Department civil society stuff, I think that that's basically a deflection from the fact that the character of all these people, I mean, their early life section, they'll happen to be Jewish. And the real evil in the world, as we know, is the antithesis of God.

It's the devil. So who's the antithesis of God and the devil? It's the antichrist. And you look around the world, who are the people that are on the side of good, you know, if an as spiritual dimension as God versus the devil and it's Christ versus the antichrist. And we bring it down to the level of what's happening in the world, it's the Christians representing God, it's the Christians representing Jesus, and who's on the other side representing the devil?

Who's on the other side representing the rejection of Christ? Well, you've already told us. I already told us if earlier, if we take a previous context from this very interview, Jews are defined by their rejection of Christ. So what are you saying? Oh, you're saying that Jewish people are the devil. I mean, more or less. This is just like overtly anti-Semitic talk that's going on right here. And like you pointed out, it's really smart for Alex to leave, while Nick is getting into this JQ business. Because now he can have the plausible deniability for why he didn't push back on any of this stuff.

If it comes out, if it comes out and like it gets called on it, you know, like he can be like, I was getting coffee. I was, I was, I was, I was in the back. I would have said, I would have taken it to task. I was more than, I was in the middle of pouring the coffee and it's a big mug. Oh, sorry. So it took a long time to pour. I had to cut a line of coffee.

Absolutely. And you know, it takes a little while to get it right precise. Yeah, absolutely. Owen took the razor blade to prison, so I can't, I don't know. What am I going to do? Oh, come on. They wouldn't let Owen take it with them. That's what got him in solitary confinement.

So like, Alex is able to host Nick saying this comically anti-Semitic shit and then dodge any criticism for his own performance It's pretty smooth and on top of that he can come back with a bunch of bluster and change the subject if he needs to Like that's one of the things Alex is really good at. I've never seen Alex use this kind of strategy with any other interview That he's done and it seems either Intensely tactical. Yeah, or the infrastructure it enforces legitimately falling apart and there's nobody to do any tasks Left there's nobody to run coffee. There's nobody to work the camera like all of his employees are essentially going away Yeah, and I don't know if that's the case, but it would explain why

Chase guys are is there and maybe those suspenders are attached to a barrel that's under the desk Classic classic barrel situation. He's got his bindle under the desk and he's hitting the rails. My suspicion is Alex is getting up to drink or whatever. But it also is, it doesn't have the benefit of being like, I'm optically away from this while Nick is saying the stuff that first of all is deeply anti-smetic. And then second of all cuts under my World view. Yeah, like because Alex is like oh, it's the world economic forum and the builder bird group and Nick is like yes

It's the Jews that go there. Yeah, and so like what do you do Alex can't can't do anything with this Alex prefer So when you're fighting a holy war, a crusade, if you will. Right, it's much better for the human race if you're fighting an imaginary enemy. When you go onto the real world, oh, that's not good. Well, yeah, I will. Religion and war is bad when you put them together.

I'm gonna throw that out there. I will say that Alex is an imaginary enemy and the way he formulates things is dangerous, but it is much safer than Nick's way safer. Nick has much more of a real world sort of touch point than Alex's globalists. Yeah, yeah, because in Alex's for, you know, fermentation of bullshit. There is a, it doesn't matter who the enemy is, you know, it doesn't matter if the enemy this week is Muslims or this week is Jews or, you know, the enemy is, is able to encompass the totality.

Right. The enemy is the shadowy cabal that's top of things that is totally not any group that I'm accused of being biased against, bigoted toward. Whereas with Nick, it is pointed and there is that idea of, well, once this one's down, we go to the next one. And once that one's down, we go to the next one. But that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Whereas with Alex, it's like, they're everywhere. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Nick is systematically trying to destroy people. Yes. Yes. And would be fine with... Well, I think we all know. So Alex comes back and he's like, come on man, it's not all the Jews. And then Nick has an interesting rejoinder. Yes, it is.

I mean, look at China. They're a billion and a half people. And nothing is Chinese people on average. But they are the most homogenous race-based groups, genetically somewhere, and they're extremely racist. I mean, on average, and who, I mean, I, I'm talking about China taking over Hollywood and China and everything. I see the comments, oh, he's coming up from the Jews. I mean, if I slip on a banana peel today, it's not Jews.

It's Jews. Okay, but a lot of things are Jews. When you say that, or do you disagree? When you look at the Iraq war Jews when you say that. Are you disagree? When you look at the Iraq war, when you look at mass migration and the ADL and censorship, and we look at the foreign industry and how? You don't think part of it was weapons, sales and oil deals. I mean, it's just all the Jews. I think it was primarily for Iraq.

It was primarily the Israelis and the Neocons. Absolutely. They wrote it up in the clean break paper and 90s set. No, that was, you're right. That a Wesley Clark is supposed to. Yeah. So apparently the Jews responsible for 9.11 Alex is so bad at this in about five seconds. He's going to be like, well, yeah, you're right about all of this. It's not five seconds, but it's it's faster. No, it takes a little longer and a couple more breaks to the coffee room. All right. Yeah, we get there. Okay.

Yeah, I mean, there is not a resolution of this where Alex can in any way stand on his two feet and say, I stuck to my guns. I defended my position. He completely caves by the end of this. So we got some news. Take a little breaky. And actually, while we're taking a little breakie and go to other things, I have an out of context drop that I forgot to play. So

enjoy this. I do some studying. He loves it. He loves it. So anyway, he did some studying. Actually, he doesn't have any studying on this because the news has broken that there's a new speaker of the house in the U.S. Right. And Alex doesn't know anything about it. Well, just a minute ago, Representative Mike Johnson, whims GOP nomination for Speaker, Mike Johnson won the GOP nomination for House Speaker today. The feeding representative, Byron

Donakis and becoming the fourth speaker designated selection by his party representative Ken McCar the historical removal as speaker and the second in a single day. I did some quick searches during the break

we're on that Oh and Troy we're airing that Oh and sure update. And it looks like Jim Jordan, like seam I like Jim Jordan, but I've got to drill into the transit of prep old my view until we know more. So get the brains here in the office looking into that to give me their perspective during the next break. I need somebody to tell me what to think about this guy. I've studied love it. Love it. I need somebody to Google this guy. I, that is. Yeah.

Well, okay. So one of the ways that Nick defends his, you know, biases and bigotries. Oh, I sounded like Barnes there. Yeah, you did. One of the ways he does that is by insisting like, we just need a Christian nation. Sure.

And that is, I think what he looks at as the general and goal he would like to see, which is a nation where white Christian men are essentially the only font of power. Yeah. And so he talks about that a little bit. And then in this, he is basically, and I would say almost explicitly saying that Jews

are incapable of being right about things. Yeah. Okay. I think the number one issue that we have right now is that America has to become a Christian nation. And as a Christian nation needs to have Christian leadership. And you know, you say that you have your father, grandfather or friends with Jewish people and they seem like nice people.

I'm not out here saying that Jewish people aren't capable of being nice or good people or anything like that, but they don't worship Jesus Christ. And the Bible tells us there's only one way to the father, there's only one way to the true, the good, and the beautiful. And that's to Jesus. When I look around it, whether it's the ADL or the ZOA, when it's the left wing or the Zionists,

neither them respect or worship Jesus. And as a consequence, they can't be right. What's more, their allegiance is to their own tribe rather than America. You know, not only am I a Christian, but I'm also America first. That's a throwing out some dual loyalty tropes there too. That's that's good stuff. Good stuff. Yeah. So apparently if you're not Christian, you're incapable of being right. Yeah, Christian, you should not Christian, you're incapable of being right. Yeah, Christians, you should go, you should really go, stop that, but stop to them. So here's something that I find interesting that we won't really be able to see the fruition of until the end of this episode.

But this obsession with the idea of like, my hatred is based on Christianity. There is a purity to my hatred and my bigotrys that I have towards people and that is that it is just the expression of Christianity. Yeah, I can't be judged for this. This is my religious belief. Yeah. Now hold on to that. Well, I mean, that's true. Well, it's true of his interpretation. Right. Right. Right. In the way that he understands his Christianity, you know, you might be able to say that that's a fair statement. Sure. Right. Right. Right. In the way that he understands his Christianity, you know, you might be able to say that that's a fair statement. Sure. But I just want the the focus that he has, the centralness of Christianity in Christ to be, hold on to it. Okay. Because I think he invalidates it a little bit later. Mm hmm. Well, see, I think you think later is when well

It's later. Okay, in a almost comical way. So you say up and up until now, not a problem. No, I would say that it is But on a level that is Automable later. So Nick is he wants to find some common ground and you know know he remembers that Alex dates Muslims. Sure. And so why not go that way? Yeah, that's a fun time. I wonder what your take on this is because I've seen this and this has made me more angry than anything. Well, don't invite me to a rupture.

It's going to happen. No, no, well, because I really am interested in your experience because maybe this is a common ground. I'm with you. When I see the Muslims protesting, it makes me mad because I'm thinking, what are they doing here? They belong over there, not over here. When they do the call, the prayer, their wave and their flags, I'm thinking those people belong in Syria, Palestine, and Iraq. But what makes me even angriors when I see Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin, and I'm

not inviting you to attack them necessarily, but I'm just wondering what you think about this. These people, they don't seem to care about America. The country is being invaded by immigrants like you point out. The censorship's out of control. Force vaccinations are occurring, and they have the vaccination at Fox. They had a vaccine mandated Fox News, a daily wire that in agreement with Google, not to discuss it on YouTube. Now, they were never that mad though or emotional about it. Israel gets attacked two weeks ago and I've never seen Shapiro angrier that he has been these past two weeks. I've never seen the kind of Herculane effort. It's like an alarm went off with Levin and Shapiro and they go on Fox and they threaten this country. They say if America doesn't

give Israel everything in needs, Israel is going to nuke everybody. And it's like this nuclear blackmail. And it's like, hang on a second. I don't think it's like that. I think that's what it is. Yeah. Great. Whoa. Great. Great. Great. Great. Cool. It's strange that Alex is just agreeing because what he is agreeing to by sort of just letting slide is this entire, their loyal to Israel over the United States stuff. And that's, I mean, he asked a no, Alex has to know, he understands. Just letting this stand and not pushing back in any way is a Ties of approval

I was just thinking about this the other day And it's like people remember 1984 and they go ah dystopia I mean the country or the year the novel and and then I yeah, that was an interesting But then the you know the ending is like is that it's possible But maybe that is a happy ending alright because he's like you know what fuck it? I'll do it. I'll do it, you know, I think I think you you have a rare take on it See it's like so like think about how think about how Alex must feel right now like faced with all of the the contradictions And all of the problems that his own thoughts have led him to.

Sure. He gets to see Nick do so much more heavy lifting and he just gets to go, yeah, man, that's so right. Sure. So right. Well, see, the booze helps. 1984 was a happy book. The booze helps.

Yeah, it might be more new, uh, uh, uh, Brave New World. That's a good point. Maybe we should stick with the brave new world. So Alex thinks that the war that's going on, the Israel-Palestine situation, is a distraction from the bugs. From the bugs. From the bugs. If you just pull back from this, again, I think the whole Israel-Palestinian thing becomes

a distraction from war in Ukraine and dollar evaluation and fentanyl and pedophilia and social credit scores and UN treaties for forced injections in the WIF. In all fairness, maybe you're right, maybe I'm wrong. I just think what I'm covering is the most important stuff. And so it's a perspective thing. And I don't think there's any

sacred cows. You know, when the ADL literally certifies the curriculum and colleges down to the first grade, telling children they're bad because their Christian or wider Catholic. And the government says Catholics,

conservative Catholics, everyone, threat. I say, they haven't done that since you can't. A hundred years. Nick Point has for what he says. That's race I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back.

I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back.

I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going to throw it in the back. I'm going good boy for doing the things that I'm already doing.

What is the debate he's trying to have about? I want Nick to tell me that I'm a good boy! I think he would enjoy that. I think he would appreciate it. No. So here's essentially what I would boil this down to. Alex believes that the ADL is telling everybody that they have to have this curriculum that says that white people are inherently evil. Right. So in that context, you can't be mad that Nick hates Jewish people.

You can't be mad that he's racist because the ADL is being racist to him. So Alex is going to side with Nick's racism every time, but he doesn't want there to be trouble, and that's the debate he's trying to have right as opposed to being a You've created a Fiction wherein your racism is justifiable. Oh as opposed to you are justified. Yeah, that might be Yeah, no, that's exactly what's going on is the the attempt to justify is there Because on some level you know know that this isn't justified. Yeah, no, it happened.

When you start talking to yourself like that, there's part of you that's just going like, I'm having this debate inside where they're I'm pulling this off. This argument is not going well in my brain. I can't imagine wanting it to be outside of there. No, not good. So I told you that Nick makes one very big error. Sure. And it happens for a while. Who wears a ball? Close. That's a huge one. Close. Can't worship ball. Well, I mean, in some ways, there's an idolatry. Okay. In some ways, there's

a figure that he respects that he shouldn't. Uh-oh. That Alex is going to take issue with. Yeah. I mean, I see that as a, if Israel is a hundred pound gorilla, the thousand pound gorilla is China. It's true. China is a true geopolitical adversary. Honestly, though, I, maybe we disagree a little on this. I actually support China's rise. I support the Chinese Russia coalition because I look at the American state, which is targeted

people like you and me. And I think that the more that the American state recedes, the better that is for us. Yeah, but just because the people running us are bad, does it mean that the vacuum and the chakoms? You get that, right? Like, like, I'm not against the Russian people because China is expansionary, Putin cut weapons funding,

pull back, we're going to organic farming, and promote our families and have Russians. That is a beautiful message. I support Vladimir Putin in that. We need to have children, work Christian, organic farming. Russia is just trying to defend itself. China is set up by the globalists. It's like cancer, it's expansionary.

So just because Russia's run to China to save itself, Yeah, there was a big Russian sinus split. The global is always trying to make that split. Now they'd cause that convergence. You know, this is in a very sophisticated rank corporation projections, Nick was very sophisticated. Oh, so rank representing fuck Nick, Nick, this might be two sophisticated. Yeah, this is big boy stuff.

Projections come on. So this is really the only tactical mistake that Nick made in this interview This immediately turned off a great portion of Alex's audience and limited the ability he had to swing them to his side Other than this he was right on track to radicalize a huge number of info warriors But it's just he was dancing circles round out. I mean what I find so fascinating about it over and over and over again Is how much more powerful fiction is than reality. Because what Nick is saying is what 100% accurate. That is exactly what the people,

and that's why people who are in league with Nick behave this way, because that is correct. You're just not allowed to say it. Well, you have to lie to people in order to get them to believe the opposite of what you're doing. Not quite. Not quite.

You can project this onto Russia, but you can't onto China. Project what onto China? The idea of creating other power blocks is helpful to take away the power of the United States that I feel is oppressing me. What do you mean? That's a large part of what Nick's saying. Yeah. He's saying that the less power the United States has, the better it is for you and me.

But you're not allowed to in the info wars and the conspiracy space to apply that to China. You can only use that with Russia. Right. You're creating a multipolar world and all that is only acceptable through Russia. Right. Again, that's what I'm saying. Okay. That is what Nick is saying a true thing

that he should be lying about. Yes, that everybody knows. Only expressing it through Russia. Exactly, yes, yeah, yeah. Also, it's super ironic for Alex State that Russia is an expansionist while they are literally in the middle of a war that's meant to expand the borders. Die, pay, what you're gonna do.

He's just desperate for a way to say Russia is white and Christian and shares a lot of the same bigotries as I do so they're fine and can do nothing wrong. That's basically, and that is what the distinction is, I believe, between China and Russia in terms of what you're able to project the balance of power equation onto. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's that also there's so much of the white identity that's mixed up in it. So you can't be like, well, allowing China, which is so much the other to accrue some kind of a global power that's dangerous, whereas I associate myself with Russia. Right. So it's fine. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Now big mistake, I believe on next part, because it's going to take up a lot of time. Uh-oh, but he makes it worse.

Oh, no. So I'm saying, yeah, there's been a global salient with China. That's broken, but just because it's broken, just because I don't like the new world order, the globalist doesn't mean I like GZPing. I do like GZPing though. I like because the, you like three million Muslims in, in slave camps? I just, I don't believe that's true. I think that's propaganda.

It's seriously, I mean, what I believe that's true. I think that's propaganda. It's seriously. I mean, what I said, you know, I went in about it. I tore my killies nine years ago. And it's almost completely gone. So my right legs are crushed now. I can still run, but not well. And I went to six different dollars just because the UK. Austin, San Antonio Dallas. And they all said, Oh, don't worry.

We got tissue grown in China. When I asked to see the paperwork, they went to the place that, yeah, it's a cadaver. China's selling body parts, brother. My leg ain't fixed as I waited too long. I got to have a cadaver part. I morally cannot be part of killing some fallen gone person to get that. Because I already, I just can't have that in my life. I just think that when people talk about the weaker concentration camps, I just feel like that state department propaganda, like atrocity propaganda, you can let that sit. You shine as evil rather than a geopolitical come up. No, you know, what I don't care.

Doing Nick, I'm not trying to interrupt you. I'll try to shut up and stick a sock on my mouth for five minutes. I don't want to be accused of not giving me a time. This is a great discussion, a great debate. China's own government admits that Mao St. Tong killed at least 65 million of their own people. So obviously I disagree with Nick, and I don't think that the abuse of the Uyghur people in China is State Department propaganda. If I were in this conversation with him about it, which would never happen,

I would not take the approach Alex is. In an attempt to convince Nick that he's wrong about this, Alex tells a personal anecdote where a doctor told him that he was going to get a cadaver, a killee's tendon from China or something. Yeah. There's no proof of anything here. You have to believe Alex's story, which is a big leap, and then believe that the doctor in the story is telling Alex the truth, which is tough, and then believe that Alex is conveying the information accurately, which is impossible. So that's like, you can see what Nick does, and that is just ignore that entire story. See, because that's what you do in a situation like this.

It's like, that's a meaningless, right? And then so Alex tries again after Nick just restates his point again. And that is to say that Mao killed a bunch of people which doesn't really work here either. Alex is just throwing non-sequitors at Nick and Nick is just saying, I don't believe this. And Alex can't confront that head-on because he doesn't really know anything about it.

He just knows it as a touchstone talking point buzzword kind of thing And he honestly doesn't care about it. We've heard him talk about how little he cares about the Wiggers He just doesn't want China to do anything about like the United States He doesn't know that's that's a form of weird moral bullying for some reason. Yeah, yeah, which is like Okay, man It's a pretend high ground kind of thing. It has no investment in it, and therefore can't deploy that in the situation of this conversation.

Yeah, and I mean, man, it is difficult to properly convey gravitas whenever you are throwing around multiple genocides in one conversation. Sure. Like a fucking comparing wines. And refuting, not refuting, because he's not really, but just playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and here's the other thing too, like Nick can choose to stipulate all of the stuff that Alex is saying is true and still maintain his support of, gee, no problem. Nothing Alex is saying has any real impact on that argument. And I think that this highlights something that I've noticed about Alex. He doesn't seem able to understand how to make a point anymore.

He's relied on these buzzwords and the same talking points for so long that he doesn't really have any greater depth. And when you're talking to someone like Nick who's thought about his positions and isn't afraid to bite bullets like saying he likes G on info wars, that's gonna be a problem. Alex is just got this spaghetti to throw out the wall and like, I don't know, one of those poppers that goes, it just gets confetti thrown out of it, you know, out of it, you know, fun distractions, but it's not anything. I mean, you know, it's a slam dunk for him.

In a sense though, that is probably more to his advantage and more to Nick's disadvantage in real life, you know? Like I can see that. You know, Nick is always going to have a ceiling because of his willingness to bite bullets. You know, he's not going to break free of, because people don't want honesty.

He he he he. Sort of. And on a fundamental level. Well, and shallow optical stuff that Alex is doing is what the audience wants. Sure. They don't want him to be like, are you serious? You don't believe in the, the,

the instrument of the weavers? Let's go through it. They don't want that. No, they want somebody to just say, you're bad because you like China. That's enough for Alex's audience. They, they don't, they don't want digging into this. They don't want any, any actual information. They just want, uh, Hey, I like she, whoops.

Fuck you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very much like, you know, they want to watch a war movie. They don't want to actually go to war. Jesus, fucking Christ, man.

Nick, what the shit? Yeah. You're out of your mind. So Nick talks about how he thinks that people just call China evil. Sure. Because that's how you get them ready for attack basically. Yeah.

Well, are you really sure? And because are you sure China's good? I'm not saying they're good. I'm just saying that I don't think it's when we call them evil, this is what states do. Because the United States would never be whipped up into a frenzy to go to war with Russia, China, Iran, if they thought that they were just adversaries, if they thought that they were just competitors arrivals. So that's why in every case they need to say Putin is kidnapping orphans and he bombed a maternity ward and the Palestinians to capitated a million babies.

So I get it. They use that foreign threat to set up turn to here at Holy Grail. And well, and I think they do the same thing with the Uighurs. I think that, you know, for example, they talk about the, of the social credit system in China. We have the same thing in America. We have a social credit system in America. It's hardly any different. In fact, it's worse because at least in China, the social credit system rewards good citizenship

and America punishes good citizenship. So I feel like with a lot of people, let me just be clear. And maybe you might be smarter than I am, but I was really dumb when I was your age Let me just be clear. And maybe you might be smarter than I am, but I was really dumb when I was your age. I mean, press by how smart you are at your age. So it's not

put down. You just learn I've studied Russia. And other than being a strong arm and having problems, having problems, I find out of the whole world. The best public push for families and children and Christianity, because I see that. I'm on a Rousseau file.

I'm on a Rousseau file. I just call it a see-it. What I see China with the human animal clones and all of it, man, I see the nastiest thing I've ever seen. I'll just be, I mean, brother, I do some study them. I love it. That's what I read. What the Communist Party Central Committee puts out. And I'm telling you China is bad. The bad, the Communist Chinese are

bad. Well, and I'm not, I'm not trying to, uh, denigrate you or I think you're more intelligent than me. I think you're the genius mastermind behind Info Wars and any so, uh, I'm skeptical. And here's why I think that the United States has become a very evil country too. I think that I grew interesting. So Nick is making a decent point that appealing to emotion and characterizing conflicts between states as good versus evil can be a way to convince people to support violent action in situations they wouldn't otherwise give one example.

I mean, it's fair enough, right? Right. I mean, it's fair enough. But let's go another step with this. Are states the only ones who do this? Or is this also a fitting description of what Alex does with his enemies, which are largely vulnerable groups in the population? He spends all day demonizing immigrants, LGBTQ folk, and with a renewed vigor, Muslims, and he always characterizes them as evil. He even tosses in literal demons into the conversation, dehumanizing his enemies in a way that allows his audience to see

negative things that happen to them is not really that negative. If Alex's audience had any interest in paying attention, they might notice that dynamic, and Nick is calling it out. Also, Nick is saying that states call other states evil in order to justify attacking them, but then at the end there he says the US is evil That's weird seems like you should have chosen a different word. Maybe internal logic isn't is a For a tag not a strong suit. Yeah, but but but I mean in terms of saying more things that are like It's a fair point like he has more thoughtfulness to what he's saying than Alex's blustery bullshit And I think that it shows very clearly.

I mean, I don't know. I think it's maybe the opposite in this case. You know, like, how can I put this? Because we're so used to being on the bottom wrong, right? Then it feels like a step up is a movement up. As opposed to Nick is just, you know, the level is still falling. You know, Nick is just to hire up on the terrible fall range.

You know what I'm saying? No, yeah, I think that's what I'm saying. Yeah. No, there is a market difference between them. Sure. He still sucks. Right. But we are used to, we're used to negative 10 and we're seeing negative 4

or whatever in terms of communication ability. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Well, maybe negative 2 in terms of communication because you know Nick can concisely make a point. Yeah. It's usually the point sucks and oftentimes it's using little rhetorical tricks hiding in the football sometimes. It's just hard to deal with a person like Nick, whenever, like, what we're talking about is the expression of something as opposed to the reality of it, you know, like he is more superficially good at talking superficial than Alex in this fan, in this manner, you know, and he's able to incorporate actual agreeable points into that superficial presentation.

Right. Which is part of what makes him, I think, a little bit more of a dangerous rhetorical figure than Alex. Right. Because I want to be clear, he is not above Alex. Alex is just lower.

You know, like, like, he's still at the bottom. That's fair. There's just an alternate universe bottom that Alex also gets to, you know, like he got to the star world in Super Mario. But, but, but you should also, there's another thing that Alex is better at, which we can't deny. And, and yeah, and I think, well, just because we're evil doesn't mean other evil is okay.

But the difference is, I'm a shut up. We're going to break in, and I'm a shuffling. 10 minutes. I'm shutting up right now. I mean, I have to get up and walk off and drink. I'm a shepherd 10 minutes. I'm shutting up right now. I mean have to get up and walk off and drink come a coffee So I think that the difference is the jurisdiction in China this keeps happening. I love it. Yeah, that's the He's very good at going to get coffee That is the one saving grace that Alex has on this in this power display is Alex can just walk the fuck away Didn't see that come a digit little kid Alex has in this power display, as Alex can just walk the fuck away.

Didn't see that come a did you little kid? No. I invited you into my million dollar studio to have a live interview and I will just walk off and- I will leave my own studio. Probably do substances right around the corner. Yep.

So Nick believes that, and actually I kind of, I'm of two minds about this so he believes that china is great because he is a dissident in the united states and the united states doesn't like their dissidents but china would like him because he's a dissident against the united states now i think that is not true in a sincere sense right but he would serve a great

propaganda purpose for china's use as a US dissident. You know what I'm saying? I mean, yeah, he's very clearly expressing like a listen, I'm all four fascism. I just want to be on the fasc side. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You and I are dissidents in the United States. That means that we support American sovereignty. And in a sense, we're sort of in like a knife fight with the powers that be. Because if we win, they lose. It's a zero-sum game. If we and the Americans become sovereign,

that means that the globalists are no longer sovereign. So we are total enemies. China is an adversary of the United States regime. And so necessarily China doesn't hate American dissidents as much as the American government does. Like I think about Snowden. When Snowden betrayed the NSA, where did he seek refuge? He sought refuge in Russia.

And Russia was the only place that he could be safe. Yeah, China wouldn't give a to him. That's what I'm saying. Well, but Russia was in like, I only see virtue of Russia. Back to the city. They're the best house in the bad neighborhood. And I'm not a rooster file. I just hate this.

I'm sorry. I'm so sure. I'm shopping. You're good. No, I'm shutting up now. Shut up, Jones. Go ahead. I'm not a rooster file. I just have a Sorry, I'm so sure I'm shopping. I'm gonna be you're good. No, I'm shutting up now. Shut up, Jones. Go ahead. I'm shutting up now. But whoo. Yep. Mm-hmm. I only see Virtue in Russia. Great. Not a rooster file. I'm not I'm not a team player. I've re-

I'm realizing that like more and more of just like man. Y'all will join any old team, won't you? Wait till the end of this. God damn it, Dan. So Nick prefers China to the United States, apparently. Sure. So so much for America first. But I do think that they're better than what we have going on in the United States.

I think on some fundamental level, it's almost like aim orality being better than immorality. The United States is led by, you know, and I don't want to keep going back to it, but it's what it is. It's the ZOA on one side. It's the ADL on the other. On the one hand, it's these atheist nihilist types, and they're totally against any kind of religion.

They're totally against any conception of God and definitely against Christianity. On the other side, it's these religious foreign nationals that are trying to ban the gospel in the Holy Land. And even China recognizes that's who's really pulling the strings in Western society. They talk about it all the time. For them, it's just a geopolitical reality

that when they confront the West, that's who they're dealing with. That's where the seat of power is. And so on the one hand, you have China that has really no morality. They've substituted confusion, tradition, and they've substituted their Eastern philosophy. On our side, we have people that actively put Jesus up on the cross. Whoa. Okay. So I got some DSI touch points here. yeah he put he put first china because it's just no morality whatsoever over there as opposed to the united states

which apparently is uh... run by uh... uh... the people who killed christ it mean this is just trash i don't think his understanding of global geopolitics is uh... that not great uh... i don't think so i don't think he would do well in the model you end. Oh, I bet he would have back when he was in high school. I don't think so. You can't

see those videos of him. Listen, at the time, he used to be just a normal GOP kind of kid. Oh, he used to be a young, young conservative league type of guy. Rose. Yeah. So gross. Don't let your kids grow up to be cowboys. Which ever. So Nick wants China to invade the United States. Okay, that's fun, which I got to be honest. I think he's just trolling out. Obviously he's going a little far for fun. Come on. It doesn't mean I'm necessarily pro China, but I'll take China over what we have going on now. I said on my show, I wish China would invade us. They would probably take black crime seriously. They take the border seriously. They wouldn't be going to war for Israel in the Middle East. So in some sense, I feel like maybe that would be

an improvement over what we have now, at least if they're a check on our power. All right. I'll jump in there briefly. This is one of the big things that the anti-Israel lobby does that is dishonest. There are six major Hollywood production outfits. There have been bankrupt rubber. And I said decades ago, as I was reading the Wall Street Journal article, and I talked people I didn't know, and they said, yeah, Saudi Arabia is the second largest group, but China is buying everything. Now that's all admitted.

So the joke was, Joe says China and Saudi Arabia on Hollywood, I was just reading headlines there doing it. Now China controls four of the six outlets and it's admitted that they fund this anti-America race war narrative to destabilize us. So it's true, China puts gays in prison and it's true that they do all that and that they're promoting three families or three children nuclear families now. You know,

GG ping broke with the less one and then did not have nuclear families. This China's not under global is control now. So it's kind of got its own version of its takeover. So I think China isn't command of itself. That's why it's under attack by the by the globalists. They're absolutely right. But China is still funding the left and the poisoning of America. So Nick is saying that he wants China to invade because then they would take his racist picadillos seriously.

And Alex is saying, no, no, no, they own all the movie studios and they're the ones who are causing the problems that you see with racism and, all right. So that thing about China owning for the studios is news to me because Alex is old talking point is that they owned all of them. Yeah, I recall that moaning all of them. Yeah, it's almost like the numbers kind of arbitrary.

Is he, is he like hedging his bets in case, here's what Nick might know that there's one that they don't own? That's legitimately what I think it is. I think it is. I think it is. When he's alone, he can say all. Yeah. And when Nick's there, he has to say four in case he gets a pushback. Nick actually knows.

Yeah. Yeah. Also, it sure sounds like Alex was saying that China putting gay people in prison was part of the list of positive attributes for the country. Did seem like that. That sucks. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, I'm struggling to get over the whole like, this is people, I hate countries, I do. I really do, like China is this, like man, whenever people are talking about this, whenever people are talking about global affairs. The personification of countries. Yeah, I really think about it and it's like, do you know what's going on?

There's like 30,000 people who can make decisions right now. And we all pretend that there's countries. Like that's the reality. Like if you added up everybody who could make a choice that would have a difference, that would make, that would impose its will upon this world, there's like 30,000 people. And those 30,000.

And I have to pretend that it's China or whatever. Yeah, and those 30,000 people at least in, you know, countries that have democracies in place and such are just the people who are like anybody else. And in theory, you could vote them out. And theory. Yeah. I don't know.

Anyway, Nick argues that Jewish people hate whites. Sure. This is not good. That's not good. Why would the ADL openly fund the curriculum that whites are inherently evil? That is so racist. That is, huh, it's it's it's it's it's handler, baby. I agree. Yeah. I mean, they hate whites. They absolutely hate whites. And they talk about they want America to be a white minority country. They want America to lose it.

One is the point of that if the majority of white people are pro-Israel. Well, I think that the point of that is that this is a quote from Brett Stevens. Brett Stevens used to write a Jerusalem post. Now he's at New York Times. He's like a big neo-con hawk. He wrote this book, American retreat. It's actually interesting. It predicted a lot of what's happening now.

But he's in favor of all these wars. And Brett Stevens, he did a debate with Rabbi Schmooly four, or five years ago about Trump. And the question is, is Trump good for the Jewish people? And I always love this quote because I think it summed it up nicely. He said that he's against Trump, because Trump is hostile to the liberal international principles that have been so good

to Jews. And when you really interrogate and think about it, and you know, Hitler talked about the same thing, it's that when you look at a truly open society, a truly liberal, international open society, that tends to be where the Jewish diaspora feels the most comfortable. You know, because a lot of these liberal Jewish people,

they don't want to move to Israel. They are everywhere. Everybody fails the most comfortable. So like Sarah Silverman, when they see an American flag go up, it reminds them of Hitler. And maybe you've seen that clip. She says, my boyfriend put an American flag up in the front lawn and it made me think of Hitler. And so they have this sort of histrionic fear of nationalism or of white solidarity because

they recognize that in any kind of historical, not history, nationalist, or God forbid, if there's a white nation, well, they're gonna stick out like a sore thumb and be the aliens. So it's sort of behooves them for a country to be as diverse and sort of star wars, canteen as possible. Yikes.

So yeah, I do think, I do think that there might be a tradition with white solidarity groups of being pretty hostile to Jews. It's funny that historic and historical sound so close to you. You know, it is kind of almost two on the nose. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I'm going to go ahead and necessarily take Sarah Silverman, something she said, as the end all be all. And I think, if I recall correctly, that was about the association of Trump with the flag. And

so I mean, it's regardless. I think you're yelling kind of made the point. I think that that yeah. And when you're talking about something that you think is a real good point and you're like Hitler wrote about this It's usually a side of what you where you're at There is a part of me that hates him most just because he thinks he's so fucking cool for saying that Mm-hmm. He thinks he's so fucking hard. He's slitted him. So he's the guy who can do the, oh my God, shut the fuck up. He's hot dogging on Alex.

Just a racist. You're, there's nothing special about you. Well, it's, it's, he's only special in as much as we, I don't know if we've seen one quite like him in a few years, you know, sure, but that's not that special. I would say that if you are next to Alex, you're there because you want to feel more special than you are. I definitely think that's one of the appeals

of going to four studios. You probably feel pretty great. You feel pretty great about yourself. So again, we hear about the speakership. Sure. Still no one knows anything about Mike Johnson. The jury's out on Mike Johnson. You ain't called for the low season arrest. He says he's against the Ukraine war, but he also voted for it. I'm not ready to pass judgment on the

new speaker. We're going to have to do some major research on that before we do. You're a pretty informed person. Nick Pointes, what do you think? Well, I don't know much about Mike Johnson. He was pretty far down the list. You know, they went through Scalise and Jordan and Emmer and Donalds. And so this is really, I think this is what, their fourth or fifth guy. And I don't know that much about him.

No one does. Turns out in a fucking name like Mike Johnson. That's the way you do it. Couldn't have been blander. I mean, it is, it is a, it is the most invisible white man thing that you can be. Yeah. Just be a Mike Johnson. And by the way, learn a little bit more, you're going to love him. Yeah, Alex. Yeah, it's great. So I think the coffee breaks are starting to get to Alex. I'm feeling a different tone. And wait for how different this tone is.

Okay. Let me ask you this because one of your biggest criticisms is, um, people sit back and maybe it's tongue and cheek, I'm sure it is. You say, I don't get the exact quote, there's nothing more gay than being obsessed with women or whatever the quote is. It's something like that. Correct me. I'm wrong. And I think it would be really good for your PR plus it's a lot of fun.

Why don't you get married and have some babies? People, I think you're, uh, the best advice I can give you, Nick, is get a girlfriend, get married, man, you'd be even, it's a lot of fun to have kids and be married. Where are you on now? What was the quote about? It's gay to be into women. I said the gayest thing. What do I say? I said the straightest thing is to be an asexual and so. But I said that in the context here, you know, you're a guy, you know, you're an entertainer. You say you ham it up a little bit. It's a joke.

Thanks. Yeah. Uh, partially, but the point is this, there's a lot of guys. One of my favorite rants you ever did. You said that young men today don't care about Magellan or Columbus. They care about Justin Bieber. They care about silly stuff. And I think one of the big favorite quotas for women is a distraction. Exactly. Yeah. The the simping that goes on these guys, they're basically like male feminists. And their whole obsession is sacks, women, girlfriend,

that sort of thing. And even the whole arrangement these days, you know, you have these guys, they'll date a woman for 10 years and not get married. They'll date a woman, they'll cohabitate, then they don't get, then they, then they get married and then they get divorced. And it's just a lot of silly stuff that can be a little advice. When the baby's born, you're going to love it and something's going to flip in your head. But when it's sitting on your knee at six months, man, you're a whole another man. I love girls. That's children. It is magic. Everyone I have children?

Absolutely, yeah. I'm gonna have kids in my life, but, you know, right now. But I figured that clip was out of context because I've seen other stuff you said. Yeah. But that's what they did. Yeah, that's what they do. See, now that's an option that I didn't know is available.

And it's not available, because I, again, I'm limited. I'm limited in my imagination by professionalism,ism right I didn't realize that an option that's available to Alex on a show is if Nick Fuentes is making you feel uncomfortable by being you know able to talk to you about things just act like his weird creepy uncle yeah that's available to him yeah well I mean Nick does say shit like that and it's like why not be like hey? Didn't you say it was gay to have sex with women? Hey, can't get married You dating anybody right now who you date tell me a little bit about you

Let me tell you about the joy of having white babies You know I'm here's the type of lady. I like you would tell me about the type of lady you like Nick Like yeah, he's got that available like Nick, like, yeah, he's got that available. Well, get the fuck out of here. Yeah, the vision of one of our behaviors, the most important thing, but who she is. But what were you like, Brunez? You like blond? You like redheads?

I like the tallying drop like a brilliant tallying girl with light eyes. But it's very important to me. I'm really looking at it. I want a genetic. I'm looking at it from a genetic point of view. I'm going a little hill or here. We have the parents. Seriously, blah, blah, blah.

I know that I want my kids to have hair. I'm going a little hill or here. Well, the parents seriously. I love love love. I know that I want my kids to have hair. You know, so I want her parents to have good hair. I want I want it to be smart and offensive. I want to have a lot of having hair is not a denominator of smarts. True. Well, yeah, and I agree with that. So you want to marry like spy chiefs of rocket scientists like my family?

Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. God can bond both sides like you. That's right. Yeah. You and me coming together produce the ultimate. Oh, we're going to marry. Yeah. You're going to get married. Yeah. Could you imagine you're a handsome guy, but I'm either to sorry or Uncle Hitler coming again. But, uh, Annie and baby baby Hitler That's right. Yeah, so probably an Italian Person That's where we wind up with all of that done. Yep. All the journey taken our fucking feet have finally hit the Fucking end of the road and it's probably an Italian. I like to reproduce with an Italian person. I mean great, great. Okay, sure.

I mean that's fine. I have no opinion on this. It's an interesting place for this to go, certainly. Yeah, I think that most interviews aren't going to end up with what do you like in a lady? I will say that. That is a, I appreciate, you know, it's always made me uncomfortable. And this just really makes it very clear.

You know, like if you are a person who treats an entire gender like a pizza, you're not gonna have a good time. Probably not. Now, it's gonna be a bad day. He's ordering toppings here. Exactly. Italian.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is literally, what is he's trying to create like his genetic baby? Right. He's trying to create his perfect white baby. Right. Yeah, baby, person, baby me one. No, okay, fair enough.

The point, women are a tool by which you have a family. Yeah. As opposed to it's another person that you're engaged in a thing with. What can I order? How long does it take to deliver to my door? Now, as surprising as this little conversation about you should give kids,

Sure. It is. One of the things when you're doing lines of coffee, Sure. is your prone to mood swings. That'll happen. And so Alex, I, I, this is out of nowhere. OK. And it's harsh. OK. Yeah. What's your family thing

about you're done? I mean, they don't agree with everything I say, but they support what I'm doing. You know, my parents, their real boomers, they're like, go and do it. Every makes you happy, man. Well, I'll say this, when the universities and the public schools and the elementary schools are teaching white people are bad, I say to the left and see it in 80, hell, all bets

are off. You can't point at this guy with race based politics when he's a two and you're a 10 and then say he's the devil. You just, I mean, that, that's where I'm at. I've tried to sell Americana. I've really tried to get everybody on the same page. I've done the best job I can. I believe in everybody. But my my my my six and a half year old daughter's home school

but we put a lot of exercise camps. She's like a little Arnold sports snagger. And she came home a few weeks ago and told me she was this camp with eight. You're in the blanket lunch. They air of the air speakers. She's really doesn't make stuff up. And she came home a few weeks ago and told me she was this camp where they during the break at lunch they air of the air speakers. She really doesn't make stuff up. This is adult stuff.

Super smart. Right. Veronica. And she told me they told me white people are bad. Am I bad? It's over folks. Done. Puzzle.

But gone. You want it. You got it now. You messed up my six year old. It's over. So you you want it. You finally got what you wanted. I'm going to have to be proud old, it's over. So you want it, you finally got what you wanted. I'm gonna have to hit you,

put your head down if you sagging, just why? Fuck you, fuck you for that. You piece of fucking lettuce, shit. So that's where I'm at. The gloves are off. Where is that?

Yeah. Yeah. Where is that? If I'm naked, I'm sitting there like, what the fuck were you this cupped for? That is just, I mean, you just don't get that anywhere else with nothing Being said that's relevant in anyway Alex has just been like I'm with you now, man

Because my daughter went to what camp I They said she was bad because she's white and now I'm a nut. No, I'm a nut. I tried to do Americana I did it. I tried I did the best I could and now I'm a Nazi. Now I'm a Nazi. I tried to do Americana. I did it. I tried. I did the best I could. And now I have to exterminate all non-white. Gloves are off you left us pieces of shit. Man.

Alright buddy. Cobb down. The one saving grace of this horrific, terrifying, like almost banal and psychopathic discussion of the worst that humanity has to offer. As that Alex is just an idiotic buffoon at the end of the day. I mean, it's what makes this prism in any way entertaining. Yeah. In any way entertaining. Yeah, you know, like, uh, looking at what they're doing is it without the buffoonery would be just a dry

Kind of awful. Oh, I'd make you look just non-stop depression. And it still bums me out It still depresses me, but at least Alex has swings and like I mean it's It's something it's it is and it's so like the end result of going to the coffee room I mean it is it is it's it's a it's um uh check-offs coffee room yeah and we you know there this is the same theme that was playing a little bit earlier, the trying to create a justification for your bigotry. But what Alex isn't taking into consideration is like, what Nick actually believes.

Yeah, like he's signing on to what Nick's saying, and that is that Jewish people are the devil. Right. So, yeah, that's what Alex, that the gloves are off there? Alex? Yes, I believe Alex has just said that he is fine with, I guess, all Jews being killed. They're at least expelled forcefully. So he's really mad about this very true story

about his daughter. Yeah, it sounds so true. It's so true. It sounds so absurdly true. I've heard from a very reliable source that his daughter does not make things up. Especially not whenever it would make her dad incredibly happy to hear exactly the thing that she says. Right.

At six year old who's only lived with Alex and his home school. Yeah. Reliable source. Yeah. You're a war. We're trying to brainwash children. Mm-hmm. And you're a children. Now, and I read the news, they're covertly everywhere. They keep files on kids in the public schools and hide it from the parents. I mean, it's like, whoa, you're going to teach my beautiful daughter. She's bad because she's white. But fuck you. I mean, that's all I can say is burn in hell, man. In fact, you want to make it.

You got it. You got what you want him. Yeah. Well, and that's the important thing is they started it. They drew first blood. They did. Yeah. Well, yeah.

I mean, we wanted to be left alone. Did they? Patriots. We want to do something and, you know, work hard and let's be clear. It's not the average Hispanic or black person that's doing this. No, it's the establishment. Whoever that is, whoever that is. Oh my children.

Oh wow. Whoever that is. Game over, you want it, you got it. So this is the change. It's here. Get used to it, folks. So this is the change. It's here.

Get used to it, folks. So is that meaning there's an editorial change in InfoWars that's being signified by this substance fueled outburst Probably no, I mean it's always been the same thing. It's just like this is this isn't different now It's it's just an anger and an Alex owning up to what he actually stands for yeah Yeah Man that sucks. It really sucks. It just sucks.

It does. Yep. Don't get drunk at work. I mean, it's unadvisable, especially when you're hanging out with baby Hitler. I mean, I'm trying to have an adult conversation where you push back on the things he's saying, because honestly, if I'm Nick right now,

I'm laughing my ass off because this guy has just given up entirely. He's saying that everything I'm saying is right. Right. And I'm going to lead him down the path. And not just that. It's everybody else's fault. Yeah.

Oh yeah. And just like, I'm just going to bring him along, just string him. We all have to come together and oppose a globalist. Well, we beat Hitler. Now we're facing things far worse. 100%. Well, because they're motivated by the devil. I mean, it's nothing short of Satanism.

And it's coming. What, teaching six-year-old girls or baggers or white? That's not evil. It is. That's what I'm saying. That's devil. That's straight up from the devil. It is from Satan.

And they crossed the line. You can lie about me, but not my kids, man. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and they're doing that to this entire country. That's our entire progeny, our being sent to war, genitals chopped off, sold into debt slavery. It's because of people that lead the country.

They don't love God, and they hate this country. They're not loyal to this country. They're not loyal to us. They're not loyal to the human species. No, no, they worship death. And I think they commune with demons. That's the only thing that explains. Oh, it's going bones. They do weeks of chanting to become possessed. We are. It's a two minutes break.

Next week. Keep going. Keep going. Next two minutes to break. Two minutes break. It's sad. Our lamenting of the imagination. It's too bad that you just got real fucked up out of nowhere, huh? Yeah. Yeah. So Nick is clearly talking about Jewish people. He's signifying with things like they're not loyal to this country, you know, these are all buzz code words

that he's saying, you know, they don't believe in Christ. All of these things are his code for I'm talking about Jewish people, and Alex is like, you know, they don't believe in Christ. All of these things are his code for I'm talking about Jewish people, and Alex is like, you bet, man. You fucking bet. They're all demons. Yep, and the reason that he's, and he's, so, it's ironically comforting for Alex,

and that's why you bring the demons in there at the end, because Alex will be like, yeah, demons, that makes sense to me. Yeah. Doesn't matter what you're describing. Oh, demons, okay, now I get, was you, okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah, demons, that makes sense to me. Yeah. Doesn't matter what you're describing. Oh, demons, okay, now I get, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, demons, cool. We got it.

He's like somebody who, I don't even, I can't even come up with a metaphor. No, because he's only Alex. No, I'm talking about Nick. He's just Nick. Oh, he's somebody who's like, all right, they're out of their mind now. Yeah. I'm going to use this for my purposes. Oh, he's made the sale.

You know, he's made the sale and now he's just trying to get a, get, maybe he'll get a warranty. Yeah, you want to extend a warranty out of this one? I was, I was thinking about it being like somebody who has ill will, but like, is that a chill out tent or something like that? It's like Alex is out of his mind and he's going to sell him a time share. Somebody who's, who's out there trying to ruin trips. Yes, yes, yes, basically.

I like that. Okay. So also you have this earlier thing where Nick is talking about the way that states call other states demons and they're evil in order to facilitate and justify violence against them. Now I do believe that there are literal demons talking to the people who run those states. Right. And they're Jewish. And they're Jewish. Yeah. It's this is comical. This, this, so I told you earlier to keep in mind the idea that

there is like this is all about Christianity. Sure. This is about is firm belief and Christianity. Yes. And nothing else. Christs compared to Hollywood. Exactly. Yeah, because even the muslims would say don't touch our kids. Don't cut our kids, genitals off. Even they understand.

Well, they don't just understand. They'll stand up. Right. They go out there and fight. I think they're going to fight. I think they're going to fight. I think they're going to

fight. I think they're going to fight. I think they're going to fight. I think they're going to fight. I think they're going to fight. I think they're going to fight. I think they're going to fight. I think they're going to fight. I think they're going to fight. I think they're going to fight because even the Muslims would say don't touch our kids. Don't cut our kids' genitals off. Even they understand. Well, they don't just understand.

They'll stand up. Right. They go out there and fight. Well, I said maybe if Christianity won't stand up, maybe Islam is, I mean, you know what I mean? If Christianity doesn't show up, maybe it's Islam. That's why I'm saying. That doesn't make me a Muslim.

Doesn't mean I love that whole situation, but Christians won't fight but they need to yes christians won't fight and uh... you know maybe maybe the muslims are the you know that you know i the thought occurred to me i was like it's been a problem for humanity you know the religions always do in all their fighting there's a lot of fighting that is religiously based

but you know now that i think about it, maybe I think it's good, because the people in the religions who want to do the fighting are fighting each other, not us, you know, like what if all the religious people got together and then came after the rest of us? That's not good, that's real bad. And that is kind of a little bit what? No, no, no, no, is Christianity keep fighting? Keep fighting guys keep fighting guys you guys all you hate each other so much all religions real

well go get fighting all is god is gonna kick you there is a certain amount of what Nick and Alex are saying here that is like let's just get together and kill all the 100% left leaning people yeah let's kill the left yeah yeah everybody says we shouldn't use religion to kill people. We should use our religion to kill them. And maybe we should just go Muslim. Why not? Maybe it's that we don't actually believe any of the tenants of any of the books. We just know that the ones that we like give us the opportunity to exploit them to commit the acts of violence we like so much. And that's how we get to the last clip. Oh, Bye. And Andrew Tate, you know, I've seen his appearances on this show. And he's obviously a Muslim. And he says that he says, you know,

the Christians won't stand up. And sadly, as a Christian, I, he wants to fight the fighters. Right. That's why he joined Islam. And I get it. Sneakgo did the same thing. He's a friend of mine and he said, I have to go with the Muslims because they're the one standing up to all this stuff. Now, I think that the solution because Christianity is true is that we just need the Christians to stand up, but Christians are afraid of losing their jobs, are getting canceled or stuff like that. We need people to get bold. Well, they're not really Christians.

No. That's cowardice. This has been an incredible debate. You're a bad baby. No. That's cowardice. This has been an incredible debate. You're a bad baby. What? You're a bad. It's not been an incredible debate. And I think if I had to assess this,

Nick is still giving lip service to be like, you know, Christianity is what's right. Sure, sure, sure. But there is a like, I want the fight more. Yeah, violence is what's right. Violence is really what I know, I want that violence to be targeted in the directions that I wanted to.

And when we said, let's get these religions together to attack the left, really what he is wanting is to attack Jews. Yeah. Like he would be, like, Sneeko is not becoming a Muslim because of Christianity. Right, right. Anti- like Christianity. Right, right.

Anti-Semitism. Right, right, right. And I just, I think that they just want violence. They just want an outlet for violence. And because of the image that they have built up in their head of Islam, that is what is violent to them. And so that is bad. Just bad thinking?

Yeah. Bad rhetoric bad rhetoric trash all around I feel like an invalidation of a lot of the the I mean prior statements You know the weird thing is that the problem is the problem isn't that the thinkin's bad It's that he's lying about it right and he just won't be like why can't just be honest like right? Just be honest well your Nick Fuentes you have hung out with Yay saying that you love Hitler just be honest with yourself and say you don't give a fuck about religion Well, no, the people that you want to hurt. That's the that's the denial of the brand. He can't do that Yeah, it is it is an interesting thing where

there is so much freedom that he has. And then yet there is the inability to just cut the shit with your belief, like your, your insistence on this is motivated by my religion. Yeah. It is not. Yeah, it is, it is a man talking to an audience. Like we hear so many, Lee, you know, is talking to this audience

and then whenever he's in this audience, he's gonna talk to that audience, you know, those types of things. And I'm, you know, that's fine. I've talked to many different types of audience and I don't talk the exact same way to all of them. But I am, that's who I am, you know? Like I'm never, not, I'm never like, oh, well this audience

will like me more if I pretend to be something and then as long as I convince them that I am that thing, then it doesn't matter what I actually am. Well, but here's the thing, is any audience that Nick is in front of, he's going to have that Christian extremist. But it's not put on for Alex's audience. No, no, no, no.

The, he is talking to them in a way that is more crypto of a lot of the bigotries that he has. And I think that that is in a, a hope that some of them will migrate over to him. And I think that that is in a hope that some of them will migrate over to him. Um, but he's much more blunt than a lot of other folks who come around info wars are. That's true. And I would say that, um, at least I appreciate that this didn't have much to do with current events. Yeah, it is nice. I was pretty much dreading the idea that that it would just be an hour and a half of them.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Getting into the weeds on that. And at least it was more about their interpersonal problems and hashing out like Nick, you said I was a shill kind of stuff. And then Alex sort of having his own personal drama. And he's come to ironically to ironically his come to Jesus moment about it.

Yes, he's actually a man. His come to muslim moment. I mean, I think that clip where he's a true first blood. Like that, that to me is like real troubling because I don't think, I don't think it really means anything. No, because his beliefs prior to this and obviously going forward will be similarly terrible. Yeah.

But I don't believe the Inveno Veritas thing. I don't really buy into that. Yeah. But I do think that what you're seeing is Alex a little fucked up getting into some of the feelings that he has. Yeah, and some of those feelings are the more violent things That is underneath the surface that fuck you you fucking shit fuck Like that is underneath A lot of what he he tries to present as like

These are well thought out research. Yeah, I love me some research. Yeah, it's not so much the sounds that he's making. It's the way and the tone they have, you know. And the sounds that he's not making. Right. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, just because the sounds he's making like come to us and they look like words, you know,

you feel like they're words, you mean things. That's not the case. Not always. No. Anyway, this sucked. Yep. I hate yep, who's Mike Johnson? I don't know That's my that's my takeaway from this I think he was on the Milwaukee bucks in like the Okay, I can see that he was a shooting guard for the bucks Anyway, we'll be back Jordan in another another episode, but until then, we have a website. Indeed, we do. It's knowledgefite.com.

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