Knowledge Fight - #869: November 8, 2023
Episode Date: November 10, 2023In this installment, Dan and Jordan witness Alex interview a guy with a viral video and a woman who denies viruses, and come to terms with the reality that the chicken fried steak is the new hot tub....
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Joe, oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you. What's up? What's your price about today, buddy? My price
But I guess is I've been seeing some movie trailers. All right, because I don't I'm not one of these fancy people who pays for YouTube premium
That is true. You know, I got the commercials, I have to sit through almost of the time.
You must.
Unless I can skip them.
And I've seen some movie trailers.
Okay, and I have some thoughts.
All right.
So there's a new Ghostbusters coming out.
Did not know that.
Yep.
Okay, is it, uh, ooh, is it set in like 1830s London?
No.
And they're fighting the ghost of Jack the Ripper.
What is something to do with ice?
Well, that's close.
There's cold something in it.
There's people are freezing.
People are cold.
I found the trailer to be sort of shocking in some ways.
It implies a lot of death.
Ghostbusters in a day after tomorrow.
It feels that way.
Yeah.
But you got Camille Nanjiani up in there.
You got Mad Nosswald.
You got Paul Rudd. All right.
Camille's, Camille's still ripped. I don't know. I don't think so. Did he let it, was he like finally that can be done with all of this shit?
I think so. For the interviews I've heard with him that was not a super the reviews of the eternal Also not super pleasant
But yeah, it looks fine. I don't know if I'll see it
But it looks fine. Yeah, it just brought me back to I saw the one with like Kristen Wigg
them and I've I got so emotional when the theme song hit at the beginning. Oh really? Yeah, I was just like I did not expect that
Wow, just like did you have a huge attachment
to those monsters?
I didn't think I did.
But I must have.
Like, I knew I liked that.
Them as a kid and I had toys.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Like the proton pack and what have you.
But yeah, I didn't realize that it was really gonna hit me
as hard as it did.
And so I was waiting for it in this trailer.
And I don't remember it coming.
They couldn't secure the rights to the song.
Yeah.
Or they want to leave it for when it has the most emotional impact.
And I support that.
But the real bright spot is the trailer of, I didn't know this movie existed.
Looks amazing.
Okay.
Dream scenario.
Never heard of it.
So it's Nicholas Cage.
All right.
And he looks a little older. He's playing a old
Old non-descripting kind of guy. Sure. Sure. Someone's a dad. Someone's uncle. That kind of vibe
But I guess I from what I'm able to make out from the trailer. It's he is
Somebody who keeps showing up in people's dreams and so he becomes a celebrity for being in people's dreams. All right. It looks insane. That does sound insane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So now you, because you've got Nicholas Cage being able to play this character,
he's dealing with the fact that he's in people's dreams and now he's famous because of it.
Right. And then also being crazy in people's dreams. Yeah. It's just, it's all the things you would want
from everything. Yeah, it is. So it really is.
And he can be as nuts as you want in those dreams.
And it doesn't impact the narrative of it,
because it's a fucking dream.
Right, right, right.
So you don't have to abide by if you die in the dream,
you die in real life rules.
And they don't have to abide by like,
Nicholas is out of pocket.
Right, right, right.
Oh, it's a dream, it's fine.
Yeah, yeah. He won't stop doing that weird voice. Oh man. right. Oh, it's a dream. It's fine. Yeah.
He won't stop doing that weird voice.
Oh, man.
It would be so great if there was just one dream where he predicts 9-11.
You know, and it's like, oh, all right.
I know you guys are watching.
One dream where he's Superman.
Make up for him not being Superman.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I want to see that.
I haven't seen a movie in theaters in a really long time.
Yeah, it's been a pretty pandemic for me.
I think I might be more recent than you then.
Oh yeah?
So I saw, no, yeah, it was one of the fast movies,
but it wasn't the last one.
So might've been fast nine, I think, maybe.
I felt like I had to see it in a theater.
Yeah.
And I think that was after that was post-pandemic.
So I think I'm more recent than you. Yeah, I think think that was after, that was post-pandemic. So I think I'm more reason than you.
Yeah, I think so.
But yeah, that looked like something that I'm like,
all right, I'll get my ass out of my seat and go watch that.
Yeah, I think that, yeah, the last movie I think I swear,
I think the last movie I saw in theaters was The Rise of Skywalker.
And it leaves a sour taste in your mouth.
Sure, much like the reviews to eternal.
Exactly. So what's your bright spot? My bright spot is yesterday morning. It leaves a sour taste in your mouth. Sure, much like the reviews to eternal. Yeah, exactly.
So what's your bright spot?
My bright spot is yesterday morning, I went
and I got my car serviced.
Did the oil change, did the whole thing.
I'm at the dealership, just waiting there,
just waiting for everything to be done.
And then I walk by in the waiting room
and there's Mike fucking Wiley there.
Hey!
At the same time, I don't know where. Chicago comedian Mike Wiley. fucking Wiley there. Hey! At the same time!
I don't know where!
Chicago comedian Mike Wiley.
Mike Wiley and it was awesome.
Yeah.
It was great to meet him again.
It was great to meet him.
It was great to meet him.
It was great to see him catch up.
And it's so cool.
But also he listens to the show.
So I know he's going to hear this.
What's up Mike?
Exactly.
And there's a part of me that's like, oh, shit. Have I told the story on the, have I told any, am I saying anything that
might have been on the show? Right. I'm repeating it to a, to a board person who
I was like, they're the first night I did stand up.
Common. I've, I've had that moment a number of times.
The people who are politely, uh, like, yeah, you set that on the park? Yeah. Yeah.
It's not a pleasant feeling, but it is something
you kind of have to make peace with.
It's not fair, but it is what it is.
Yeah.
So Mike was getting his car,
Mike was getting his car.
Mike was getting his car.
Taking care of too.
It was so great.
It was so great.
Love Mike.
You know, like I said, he was there the first time
I did stand up.
He's instrumental in like me continuing to do it
and not feeling like I suck the whole time.
So he used to blame.
It is entirely his will.
He's very supportive.
He was way too supportive.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We could all have saved ourselves a lot of time and effort
if it weren't for Mike.
Well, that's great.
That's always nice.
That was nice.
Run into an old friend.
And it at a odd time in a odd place
Mm-hmm, you know, it's it's always a delight sure. Yeah, here's my second bright spot
What's that I got a haircut and you didn't even notice we've been sitting here for half an hour and you didn't notice I noticed
Well, you didn't say anything so it means it's a bad haircut. No, I did well. I mean here's the problem. Oh shit
Here's the problem all right
Whenever I was walking in the door, I saw you,
and I was like, different haircut,
and by then you had turned around
and you fake like, close the door on me.
Yeah, yeah.
And I lost the initiative.
Mm-hmm.
You're not gonna pin this on me.
And then after that, no, no, no, no, no,
and then after that, I was like,
I don't know, when do I inject this into the conversation?
Any point.
And here we are. Right. And here we are. And here we are. Your haircut looks great by the way. And then after that, I was like, I don't know, when do I inject this into the conversation? Any point.
And here we are.
Right.
And here we are.
And here we are.
Your hair cut looks great by the way.
Thanks.
That was not forced at all.
You're just 12th trimmed?
It's a delight.
So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
I'm going to be talking about November 8th, 2023.
That is, present day Alex is back in the studio.
This is decided not to quit. Oh,
damn it. Right. Yeah. Um, and so we're going to talk about what he's up to. There's been some elections
around the country. Oh, that's true. Yeah. The election in Virginia, yeah. Yeah. Kentucky. Yeah.
Ohio. Ohio. Mississippi. Uh-huh. And a lot of them did not go great for Republicans. Not great for them. No, no, no, no, uh, pre-loud
resounding call for abortion access. It is it is very funny how for for so long
We've allowed it to be tossed back and forth as a political football and then finally whenever they did go fuck it
It's gone now everybody's like oh, oh, we actually did want that.
Yeah.
Oh, how about that?
Let's put this to bed.
Let's just, this is something we all support.
We should be done with this, right?
We should be done with this 40 years ago.
Yeah.
And it's maybe a very small group of fringe weirdos
who are keeping this an issue.
Yeah.
And we should just move forward.
Let's just move forward.
Anyway, there's a bunch of that, and so Alex,
I was gonna say he covers the election,
but he doesn't really.
No, that makes sense.
There's something else he covers
that sort of has to do with the election.
And we'll talk about this here in a minute,
but first, let's say hello to some new ones.
Ooh, that's a great idea.
So first, Jamie is a pretty cool guy, I guess.
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I'm a policy-want.
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Next Nate Burrows High School Friends cousin.
Thank you so much, you're an out policy want.
I'm a policy want.
Thank you very much.
It was so weird that you mentioned Nate Burrows earlier
on the show because I was reading this email
and he was like,
I did not.
I mentioned him before we started recording.
Oh, did you?
Yeah, yeah.
That's on me.
But that is still weird.
Yeah, it is still weird. But yeah, so the email was like, wouldn't it be funny if you guys knew each other? And it's like,
you have no idea how well I mean, I know snake perro I don't know if I know his high school friends.
Sure. Most of the people that he hung out where a lot of people he hung out with and I would
hang out with as well, where a lot of his college friends from DePaul. Right. But he had to know about high school friends, and then their cousins.
Yeah, exactly.
That's, that's, that's, thrice removed.
Yeah, that does.
But I'm sure we would be friends.
Yeah.
Next, I've got plenty of words for you, but a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
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Thank you so much.
Thank you very much.
So yeah, we start off with the awareness
that an election happened.
And that's basically all you're gonna need because
So here's what's going on. Okay, there's a viral video
Why would I have expected any other two words to come out of your body? Okay, and so Alex
Covers that viral video when he's going to then interview the guy who's in the viral sure got you Matthew hurt
Turns out as a mutual friend of mine.
He heads up an organization that's very successful exposing tyranny in Virginia.
He joins us in about 15 minutes.
And of course, it's the viral video.
10s of millions of views on Fox, 10s of millions of views on Twitter, 10s of millions of views on Twitter, tens of millions of views on YouTube.
And it's just probably 40 million people seeing this now.
Finger wagging dim voter loses it on GOP poll worker
in Curse, Lade, and Moran.
He says, I'm taking your picture
and I'm gonna get you the Republicans win.
And this is standard fare for these folks.
Yeah, so as he likes to do, Alex has decided to try to attach
himself to someone who has a video that's going viral.
And he's trying to suck whatever juice he can out of that.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like a gross mosquito on an even
shittier, smaller mosquito. Yeah. In this case, it's a
Matthew Hurt with two T's, who's a Republican from Virginia,
who filmed himself getting scolded by a really annoying
Democrat.
I've watched the video and the dude is out of line, but it's not really that big of a deal.
Sure. If we're talking threats, I've seen way worse coming from the right,
but when you lose these elections real hard, you have to have a different story to report,
and this really works for that purpose.
Oh, that's fair. That's fair.
In the Virginia election, Democrats ran hard on defending accessory productive health
care and they ended up regaining control of the General Assembly, which coincided with
Andy Bashir being reelected as Kentucky governor and Ohio voters passing an amendment to their
state constitution to enshrine accessory productive health care.
Overall it was a very bad day for the right wing after this election and if you're on
the losing side of something like this,
you don't want to sit back and reflect that maybe your position isn't good
and people don't like it.
You can't go on air and say,
eh, maybe people feel that access to abortion is a human right and mine is a
deeply fringe position.
That doesn't sell.
I mean, it would be, it would be a weird world.
Like, I think we would all have a fucking whiplash day. If all right,
wing media was just like, Hey, listen, the majority is spoken. I guess abortion's done.
And that's, and we would all sit and stop. And the entire fucking country would stop.
We would all have whiplash from breaking our necks on how quickly they, they hit the
brakes on us. It's insane. Well, the conversation would need to be something along,
for it to be had seriously,
would have to be something like,
I am recognizing that 80% of the population
is okay with this thing.
And I don't care.
I have a principled opposition to it
and I demand that I impose that upon you.
Yeah, that would be what the conversation would have to be.
And that's just not going to happen.
That's not going to happen.
And no one's going to change their mind about anything.
So you need a different angle to run with.
And thankfully Fox News did a story about a GOP poll worker type guy who had a Democrat
voter be a dick to him.
And now we have a completely new news cycle.
And there's no need to spend time talking with the audience about how this doesn't
bow so great for 2024.
I do appreciate that I spent my early years learning to learn.
And then I spend the rest of my life being told by TV how not to.
And observing so many people who can't.
Yeah, exactly.
Or just refused to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Incidentally, Matthew Hurt with 2T's is no normal pole watcher
guy.
This is a dude who is deeply connected to insider GOP circles and he knows exactly what he's
doing.
He didn't just have a video go viral and now he's making the most of it.
First point, he's the director of professional services for the Leadership Institute.
This is an organization that's meant to train conservatives in various capacities as activists,
media figures and candidates.
It was founded in 1979 by a man named Morton C. Blackwell,
who's still its president, and incidentally also the head of the Republican
National Committee in Virginia.
Yeah, that's a white nationalist.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You're making them assumptions in my bones.
I feel it.
All right, you're making a guess.
Morton Blackwell, yeah, I feel it.
This group boasts some serious alums, like Carl Rove,
Jim Jordan, Grover Norquist, and Mike Pence,
as well as Project Veritas' James O'Keefe.
Before he caught the eye of Andrew Breitbart,
O'Keefe got a grant from the Leadership Institute
who supported his efforts to bring a conservative
publication to his campus at Tufts.
There are many big name individuals, but there are even more folks they've trained who you'd never know who they are,
whether they be functionaries in a bureaucracy or local activists around the country.
And assassins.
There may be a few ninjas.
One thing that I've seen brought up about their training is that they like to stress what amounts to distasteful trolling.
For instance, in 2005, Jeff Horowitz went through
their course and wrote about it for Salon, saying this, quote, of Elder personally went to a drugstore and bought little pink heart stickers, bandages and purple nail polish.
At home he made the Purple Heart Band-Aids that he later distributed in Madison Square
Garden to mock John Kerry's war wounds.
From Blackwell's perspective, the Kerry camps outrage at the gag was a tactical disaster.
You see the same kind of strategy all over the place in the right wing.
You do something so distasteful and offensive that it's almost certain to cause a response
and then make an entire news cycle out of how someone
was offended at the offensive thing that you've done.
In many ways, the story we're seeing play out
in this viral video in the coverage of it on Fox
and Infoers reflects a fairly similar strategy
because there's one important thing that we don't know.
What provoked the confrontation?
There's an entirely perliminary exchange between Matthew and this annoying Democrat,
but it wasn't recorded, so we have to take Matthew's word for it.
I have no idea what happened, but I wouldn't be too surprised if there was a little more
poking than Matthew would like to admit.
In addition to all this, the leadership institute is heavily funded by right wing billionaires
like the Lyndon Harry Bradley Foundation, the Ed Eulian Family Foundation, Donors Trust,
and Donor Capital Foss.
Awesome.
Those guys are great.
Anyway, Matthew works for the Leadership Institute, and I will say that being the Director
of Professional Services is not an entry-level position.
He's pretty high up in there.
In addition, on the website for the Libertarian Party's 2022 Convention, Matthew is credited
as the, quote, director of external relationships for Americans for Prosperity
Foundations grassroots leadership academy. This grassroots leadership academy
is very similar to the Leadership Institute, except that it started in 2015,
and it's run by Americans for Prosperity, a Koch family front. In 2016,
Matthew was listed as a quote, grassroots trainer and curriculum specialist.
So the two things to be clear about is that he worked
for a Coke front grassroots astroturfing outlet for years,
and he's a specialist in the things that they teach.
It should be noted that the grassroots activist certification
program, inside it, there's an entire section
of class dedicated to going viral.
So maybe he knows the material.
Anyway, this isn't a guy who just was a humble poll volunteer who was involved with some
groups fighting corruption and he had a video go viral. This is a deeply connected
republican activist who trains people on how to do exactly what he's doing now. Essentially,
this entire thing is a farce, but it's an important farce for them to play out. If they didn't
do this, all that would be left would be talking about how poorly their
side did in the election, and that's not going to happen.
So here we are.
As for Alex, I mean, he just saw somebody getting a lot of views and he wanted to get
done on the action.
He could care less that this guy works for the very people he would call globalists.
The organization that was involved with training Carl Rove.
If I was... Alex lovesver, Norquist.
Yeah, oh boy, no texts, no, whoa.
If I were this dude, I don't know if there's a better ad
for my school than going viral in exactly this manner
at this exact time, right?
Like, you should have to go to billionaire.
All the billionaires would be like, look,
look at what I just did, me even more and look at the way
I played it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean come on. I earned all of this shit pay me a billion dollars. Yeah, so he's gonna be on here in a little bit and
That'll be most of I think I would I would say it's a fair assessment said it's most of our episode
Mm-hmm. That's fair. Um, but of course there was election fraud. Sure. They also clearly had more election fraud and Kentucky and evidence of that.
And the governor's race it's happened again.
Magically the gas broke at two different voting places of the key Democrat areas to keep them open.
Wait, what? Late into the night so they would magically get the votes to put him over the top. That's in Louisville Kentucky.
So we'll be looking at that as well here today.
So I know of one instance of a gas leak in Kentucky at the Highland Baptist
Church in Louisville, but that just closed the polls for 30 minutes in response.
A judge allowed them to continue voting until 6 30 instead of six.
Is that keeping voting open late into the night? Late into the night.
Seems like an embarrassing stress.
After daylight savings time?
That is dark.
If you're Alex, you have to work with what you've got.
Yeah.
I understand and I appreciate it.
And you do what you got to do.
So what's the second place that had a gas leak?
I have no idea.
And Alex never talks in specifics.
So I'm kind of left in a no man's land where I have to assume he's just making that up if there's one gas leak
That isn't even close to suspicious, but if there's two then you have the beginnings of a pattern
Yeah, not really no, but if you're Alex you have something you can work with yeah
I mean that to me that's almost like he would be shocked if there was one you know like him hearing you say
There was a gas leak would be like aha, was one, you know, like him hearing you say there
was a guest like would be like, aha, I can't believe I guessed right. You know, like it
has nothing whether there was one or two or zero. He's operating off like skimming headlines.
And so I'm guessing he saw multiple headlines about the same polling place being closed
and his brain made it multiple ones. Yeah. Because he's looking for the storyline that's
exciting and indicates
a election fraud.
He has the story decided already.
It's just fit in the pieces.
Yeah, I feel like that's a diminishing returns.
You can do a lot of career.
Sure, sure, sure.
But I mean, you can do election fraud for like presidents, you know, the big four years,
that kind of thing.
On off your elections, who's really fraudding? No, but that's the big four years, that kind of thing. On off-year elections, who's really frotting?
No, but that's the thing.
This will never not happen again.
Ugh.
I mean, you just have to recognize that.
It's just the new thing.
And everybody needs to stop taking these arguments seriously.
So it's just a knee jerk response,
not based on anything real.
Ironically, Alex pretends he's concerned
about election integrity, but by screaming election meddling after every single election, the result is going to be the accusations
of election meddling are going to be so much easier to ignore. Yeah, just the boy who
cried election fraud. Oh no. Yeah. You may notice also that he's not talking about Mississippi,
how nine polling places in Heinz County ran out of ballots. He's not bringing that up. Weird.
This is a heavily democrat area,
so Alex isn't interested.
Incidentally, it's unclear if there was any kind of
a various plot to disenfranchise voters,
since the turnout was so high
that there's a good chance they were just severely unprepared.
Wow.
By law, they're required to have enough ballots
for 60% of the active voter count,
but if you get over that turnout, it can be an issue.
Yeah.
And so I think from what I can tell,
absent any other evidence that I haven't seen,
they just were unprepared for a wave of...
Right, right, right, right, we didn't expect democracy
to work this time.
Well, it's not worked before we're Mississippi, okay?
Now, if this were a Republican area,
you should know that Alex would be...
Oh, it'd be the loudest thing anybody would ever speak about definitely
I mean because the idea of that many polling places running out of ballots in a very specific
area that leans heavily towards one party you would have to objectively say there could
be something wrong they're needing to investigate well the reason is because all the precincts
are in the same county and the 60% number is based on the county.
And then they distribute the ballots to the polling places.
It's not complicated.
Right.
Yeah.
But for Alex, it would be so good.
Yep.
So this is off topic a little bit.
OK.
But Alex has a report in mind that he's going to do
that I think is distasteful.
The reason I never play this footage
is that if you're going to play it,
you might as well really show a bunch of it.
So, don't.
I'm going to show a little bit today, but when I do a special report for Stephen Crowder's
outfit, the little air Friday, and all the extra extra stuff over here, I'm going to do
a deep dive on what it's like to live in Africa under the rule of some of the African
despots and none of the Islamists.
And when we got footage of a mullet down a little children, we got footage of just
piles of dead bodies, black people begging for their lives at the hands of the Muslims,
who are Arab, but also at the hands of Africans.
And it's just absolutely, completely over the top stuff, mass executions, you name it. Now, you're
not going to see this on the news because only white people can be mean to brown people.
See, there was a faux concern about people that he was expressing. You know, you could be,
you could be tricked into thinking that he cares about what these people's lives are like
in other countries, but he does not.
I mean, this is just to prove that white people
aren't the only bad people.
I mean, I know.
It's so awful.
I immediately got visions of like,
for the price of a cup of coffee a day,
you can give Alex the price of a cup of coffee a day.
You could alleviate his feelings
that everyone's man to him because he's white. I mean, it is. Yeah, it's like you're, you're
even trying to make money. I mean, it's insane. Yeah. Great. We jump back to the main topic,
which is this viral video. Also, do you think the news in Africa has that they're covering
the news in Africa? Not the news in.
And many news outlets do cover much of this stuff that Alex is pretending that they don't
cover.
It's very, it's thoroughly covered books, everything.
So we get to this viral video, which is the real news.
Yes.
God, I hate the world.
And so Alex plays it so you get to hear the exchange.
Here's some of the attempted voter suppression in Virginia yesterday.
Attempted voter suppression.
You might have been, might as well have been walking up to my head
on the way to the pole, sitting putting a gun in the head.
Try to tell me what does that.
You stuck me in the mud, take that personally.
You try to overthrow elections with violence.
And then you're out here among decent people
Thanks for coming out there, huh? What's on your what's on your
Your what are your policy prescriptions?
Come on, I say you've got rates as rights now involving yourself and people's families and their
Bedrooms it's pretty loud. You can be animal
families and their bedroom's pretty well animal you try to steal my vote next year I'm gonna remember you personally thank you
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a care of their Bible-beating bigots and freaks.
And they're not good neighbors.
Is this a state farm commercial? Yeah, so that's the video.
And you do realize watching it why the headline is finger wagging person because that's basically
what he did.
He finger wagged.
Yeah, that's the least threatened I've ever felt in my entire life.
The most threatening argument you could make is that he did take a picture of the guy,
but I don't.
Did he release a video to Fox news?
No, that was the Matt did.
Oh, that's weird.
And then the dude got doxed.
Oh, yeah.
Huh.
I don't think this is supposed to be voter suppression though.
Like even under the most critical examination of what this guy did.
This guy's not a voter.
Uh, this, this is shit. He's, this guy's wanted to get that shit off his chest for a while.
I'm sure. I get it.
I'm sure.
He blew up. That happens.
I mean, that's not very good.
No, I think it's impolite for sure.
It's unbecoming.
And it's just bad curse.
You know, it's just a poor usage.
What are you talking about, shit bird? I mean, yeah, this is this is not good
You can punch that up if you want to be threatening in a like fun way or in a threatening way
You got to do about it than this true. Yeah, I also got the feeling that maybe he knows who Matthew is
It did have a very there's a familiarity. Yeah. I don't know. It was the rapist rights
part. That's where it's like, why are you throwing that one in there for? Yeah. And also the,
the your insurrectionist type, you know, I want to overthrow the government. Sure. Like,
that's not all of the GOP. Well, maybe I don't know if that's an assumption you would make just
from someone offering you a Republican sample ballot. I don't know if that's an assumption you would make just from someone offering you a Republican sample ballot.
I feel like this is that's the assumption this dude would make maybe yeah, I don't know
I I got the sense that there's more here than meets the eye. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what that more is
But there's something that isn't being told by this video. So Alex got in touch with this guy through a mutual friend.
God, man, that sucks.
It sucks to be an old Fox News viewer,
because this is what you get.
Yeah.
This is what you get?
Like, I can go to World Star, man.
Do you not understand what is really out there?
What kind of fun shit is really going to happen?
Yeah, but those videos are going to feed you the message that you want,
which is that
your political enemies are unhinged finger waggers.
Right.
You know, oh no, I'm so, you don't want to be scolded.
No one likes that.
So Alex has a mutual friend of this guy.
Uh-huh.
And I thought the way he explained is interesting.
Okay.
Also, guys, print me his Twitter.
He's got a very successful organization. Print me his interesting. Okay. Also, guys print me his Twitter. He's got a very successful organization.
Print me his Twitter.
In Virginia, those people that work with him
are how they give me his number this morning
to get him on.
Alex knows some people at the leadership institute.
Mm-hmm.
That's interesting.
Ah, they mean me.
I think he knows James O'Keefe.
But he's not there.
True.
He's just an alum of it.
He went through the program.
Right.
People who work there, Alex knows them, which seems strange because I would generally think that people
who are serious would not be interested in Alex. If you're interested in the seriousness
of political partisan politics and training activists and such, sure, Alex is far off to
the side of that. But if you're interested in going viral, Alex is the mean machine.
You got it.
So Alex introduces Matt and he clearly shows some cards pretty fast.
OK.
There's a lot to unpack here.
First off, tell us about yourself a little bit.
And then the big response to this.
And before you got your camera rolling, your phone rolling, what was he saying before you got your phone on?
Well, thank you so much, Alex, for the opportunity.
My name is Matthew Hurt and I'm the chairman of the Arlington County
Republican Committee in Arlington, Virginia, where 80% of my neighbors
living in dead voted for Joe Biden.
Here you can see Matt giving a cute, winking first glimpse at the fact that he believes
that dead people voting swung the 2020 election.
This is important because it tends toward painting a picture of what that initial interaction
between Matthew and this annoying Democrat might have been.
We have no video of it and Matt is a slick, well-trained media operative so I'm not going
to blindly take his word for it.
I wouldn't be too surprised if he made some snide comment about dead voters or stolen
elections hoping to set someone off.
It's also possible that the guy in the video is just a bit of an asshole.
Maybe he was having a bad day and it all happened unprompted.
I've just watched how right-wing media operates for too long to take it face value with some
shithead tells me happened before the camera started rolling.
Yeah.
I have no interest in taking that like as given.
Especially whenever this is the media presentation that this guy has like right out the gate,
just immediate timing, smooth, like all of this is easy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This guy is media ready.
Yeah.
He is talked into the mirror.
He said this over and over and over and ready. Yeah, he is talked into the mirror. He said this over and over
and over and over. Yeah, he is as annoying as a fingerwagger of 100%. So he tells this
story of what happened before the video started. Okay. And this is, I don't know, his take.
What you don't see in the video is he actually walks toward me at the beginning of the interaction and I offer him
a Republican sample ballot.
He then flies into a rage for two or three minutes, very similar kind of conversation that
you see in the video.
And then he goes into vote, Alex, and it's at this point that I realize he's going to
come back out and he's going to do the same thing.
So I took my phone and I dropped it in my shirt pocket and I hit record, like you said, and I waited for him to come out of the polling location and sure
enough, the entirety of the video, about two minutes on Twitter or on X is actually the
second interaction, the second encounter I had with him.
I had this interaction with him and then he went into vote and I realized this is going
to be good. Yeah. I've a star roll it.
Yeah, I really.
I'm going viral.
I really, I really took it to this guy and then I gave him a Republican ballot.
Like he specifically asked me not to do.
Then he went in there.
He tried to vote on it, realized what had happened, came out and was it even more of a dick.
No, I don't, I didn't get any sense that he accepted the Republican sample ballot from
the guy.
Well, I mean, it just seems like when he comes out of the, why would you keep going after that?
Hmm? Uh, I don't know.
No, but that's what I'm saying is that there's something that's not quite right.
And it doesn't make sense.
It is entirely possible though that the guy is just like, kind of not, not, like, not cool.
You know what I mean?
Sure. But if you're going back for seconds at a polling place, you got to want it. kind of not, not like not cool. You know what I mean?
Sure.
But I mean, going back for seconds at a polling place,
you got to want it.
Right.
You got to want it.
It feels like something has to incite that.
Yeah.
Because you could just, it's so easy to walk away at that point.
Yeah.
Now hold on a second.
I ask you this question.
If he is still in the, if he's still voting,
we have the phone going into the pocket,
the record button being pressed.
Yeah.
Did we get him walking to the,
because I feel like the video started in media res
like in the middle of the guy talking.
It did.
Right.
So if he started the video before the guy came out,
right, then there is extra video that we did not see.
Yeah, I'm going to pause the recording right now
and I'm going to find the raw.
Go.
So from what I have reviewed the raw footage.
Sure.
And it does start in media res,
but also it's him walking up to him.
Okay, okay.
So it is both.
Okay.
I don't, I think the timing is pretty remarkable.
You might have cut out the part where he's putting the phone in his pocket and giggling
to himself about how he's going to record this guy.
Does feel like there's that might be missing from the raw footage.
Yeah, it doesn't, there's not an exchange that it happens in the second encounter.
Right.
That's been cut out or anything.
All I'm saying is that when you put your phone
into your pocket, it is recording outwards, right?
So you can't press the record button
while it's in your pocket.
True.
You have to do it from outside the pocket,
then put it in the pocket.
True.
Yeah.
So you need to see the insertion into the pocket
or else it's all, it's all fake.
It's a deep thing.
You're taking it out of context.
I think, I guess one of the things that I keep coming back to that makes me just really
curious about this is like, nothing happens.
No.
Like, if this guy was really mad enough to do all this, like, how did he do anything else?
He doesn't even really yell at him.
I know.
He's got a very measured, again, I'm saying this is just terrible work on his
part. It's a little bland. Yeah. So the mission of this is to be like, this is who liberals
are. Well, I mean, so bummer. This is what unhinged progressives and leftists look like
in places like Arlington, Virginia, in places like Austin, Texas, in places like Memphis or Nashville, you know, these urban
centers across America where they don't really like to have opposing viewpoints in their
communities.
And as the chairman of the Republican Party here, I am very outgoing and I'm very friendly
and nice to a lot of my Democrat neighbors and they actually like to talk to us.
They like to engage us on policy, but occasionally you get somebody like this who just does not want
a city of thought in this community. So there in your community are the chairman of the Republican Party,
you're naturally known, a recognized grassroots organizer and public speaker. I've seen your work
for years and you're just out there calmly handing out brochures, talking to people.
And I figured that's what happened because we didn't talk before you came on.
You just agreed to come on.
It looked like he'd already confronted you and he was coming back for more.
I noticed that's something they do, too.
If you're polite to them, they seem to enjoy that.
And then want to bully you.
Sometimes they wait till you try to leave.
That was bullying.
That was bullying.
In some weird ritual.
I don't know, it borders on bullying.
I, let me say this, all right.
Words have to mean things.
That is not unhinged.
That's thoroughly hinged.
It's, it's pretty him.
That's thoroughly hinged.
As a, as a connoisseur of unhingeditude.
Right. Yeah.
It's a bit extra.
Is that right?
Maybe, maybe. I mean, it's a little bit, it's a little bit more. I don't know how to use slang. Right. Yeah. It's a bit extra. Is that right?
Maybe.
I mean, it's a little bit.
I don't know how to use slang.
I mean, he said fuck more than once.
So it's all rated.
That's what you, that's as good as you got.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's on a becoming language.
It's on becoming.
That, if that is what you're gonna come at me with,
oh, the unhinged left is unbecoming.
Yeah.
Then get the fuck out of here.
It's a little, it's a little bit.
Go back, bud.
Soft.
Yeah.
Come on.
So, but that's the goal here.
Is you take this guy, this one example,
I'm like, this is your enemy.
Right.
This is who the, this is the embodiment of all,
like, so this happened over and over and over again
throughout various campaigns.
Like 2016 was lousy with Ohensroyer going out and finding some liberal at a rally that
he could be like, this is who all the Democrats are.
Let me throw this out at you.
Maybe we're making a huge tactical error.
Right.
Maybe we need to send out some truly unhinged people.
I'd like to see them deal with that.
You know, like, because here's the deal, right?
If I'm a conservative, I'm listening to this guy
call these people unhinged and I go, well, oh no,
I'm so scared of the left, right?
I'm not afraid of that.
They're trying to make it a big deal,
but what I'm not afraid of is these Democrats or what?
Are you not afraid of being scolded?
No, no, no, no, no no no scolding finger wagging not a problem
hmm especially not when I'm hearing a lot about guns from other people what
about uh... finger gun wagging finger gun wagging is that now that's bullying
so Alex wants to know what happened in the first encounter and i have to say
i am of the same mind yeah i would like to know good call Alex is for more fodder, whereas I'm trying to get to the bottom of it.
What were some of the things he said just for memory in the first confrontation?
You know, and I have filed a police report that I am pressing charges in this interaction.
There is a allegedly a track record, the best gentleman, of disrupting political activity. Allegedly in 2018, he was on the White House lawn
protesting Donald Trump from within the gates,
the White House lawn.
And so I learned via online yesterday
that he has a long track record of this.
And I think it is important that he be confronted
with these transgressions and and his outrageous activity
but the the conversation on the way in was very similar to what you heard in
that in the in the video
so you can see that's slick training kicking in there that's media shit
yeah he doesn't really have much to say about the initial interaction and the
interview kind of deescalates if you just answers this question with that's more
the same
so instead math you answers the question he wanted Alex to ask him, which is, tell me
you're dubious speculation about this guy.
Yeah.
People on Twitter will figure out who they thought this guy was and they might be right.
They might not.
I have no idea.
There's a, there's a fun trick that Matthew's playing there, though.
You can, you can see with his characterization of this guy.
He brings up the idea that this guy allegedly protested at the White House and that he should be, quote, confronted for his transgression and
outrageous activity. Obviously, this is not something Matthew actually cares about. It's
trolling meant to make excuses for the people who stormed the Capitol on January 6th.
This is this is just shithead trolling. Let me ask, was that the one where Trump ordered
the cops to like fucking beat the shit out of people so he could do the
Photo up with a bible it might have been I'm not sure ironic to use that one as the these frothing at the mouth liberals
Yeah, but this is all a game from Matthew
You can see in the way he carries himself that he's choosing actions carefully to elicit a certain response
He wants to poke and prod like his boss wearing a purple bandaid
at a carry rally until someone has a response
that he can fake outrage about.
This is a childish game, but it really does work.
And being aware of it is very helpful to not fall into it.
Yeah, yeah, the thing that confuses me though,
about all these hacks, I mean, like these specific hacks.
Like, you're, come on man, you don't sound outraged.
No.
You don't know how to sound, you don't know how to fake actual
rage.
You know, like that, this is all very, very prepared,
but it's also somewhat monotone, you know?
Like, he's not, I'm not feeling him being like,
and these people are out here doing all that,
like he's, the unhinged left is going it like that's yeah
That's weak T because it's it's
meant to capitalize off someone else's outburst. Yeah, that's just the the name of the game
It's be a shithead be
Annoying and offensive. Yeah, and then when someone's offended or annoyed, be like, what's wrong with you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They did learn a lot from nine year olds.
Yeah.
Yeah. Nine year olds were really revolutionary
in their movement.
Yeah.
Conservative movement is, yeah.
So he pivoted to smear this guy.
And then he's bought himself enough time.
So we get to hear what actually was
in the initial interaction.
But the conversation on the way in was very similar to what you heard in the video.
You know, I'm an insurrectionist and all of these things, all of the things that you might think,
whatever you, Alex, or your viewers think a progressive would say in a community like
Arlington, he said it. And it was a comedy goal if it wasn't so scary because there are people walking around
this community here in Arlington who are deeply, deeply disturbed.
Here Matthew employs another really sneaky trick.
Instead of offering specifics about what the guy said to him, he suggests that Alex's
audience should imagine what they think an unhinged progressive would say, and that's
what he said.
Matthews allowing the audience his imagination to dictate reality, which isn't a particularly
honest way to go about things, but it's very effective for the purposes of the propaganda
he's engaged in.
This guy not only said all the things you imagine he said, he's also super scary.
He's really scary because the left wing people out there are so terrifying.
Just do not know that the Unite the right rally was in Virginia.
I mean, I just, I just, if this is what you're trying to sell me as scary,
we've just got two different lives.
We've just got two different lives.
Does he not know that earlier this year, a guy wielding a baseball bat attack
staffers at Virginia Democrat Representative Gary Connelly's office?
Like, this is nonsense.
But you have to choose a side to be afraid of I think it's pretty clear. We're sure sure, but that's only that's just physical
All right, this this cuts to your bones the scolding the scold if you ever been fingerwagged
Listen, I've been hit by a baseball bat. Mm-hmm, but fingerwagon step too far. Yeah step too far won't you think of the wag?
I will there's there it's dark start down will. There's there. It's dark.
It's dark down there. So here's what Matthew's really all about here. Yeah. He wants to
convince Alex's audience to vote GOP. Yeah, well, that's fine. Yeah. Alex, I understand
a lot of your viewers are skeptical probably of Republican party politics. I jokingly say I am the establishment in my committee.
I was a Ron Paul delegate in 2012.
I supported Ron Paul.
I went to the convention in Tampa,
and I've been a pro-liberty activist my entire life.
It is so important for your listeners,
your viewers to get involved in these processes
and to join us because what I found last night,
last night at our election night party, a woman came to the election night party
She said I worked as a political appointee for Bill Clinton and it took me 20 years
But I was wrong and I'm ready to join the Arlington County Republicans and make a difference as a Republican
So we have an opportunity in Arlington where again like I said 80% of my neighbors living in dead most of them
They voted for Joe Biden.
Most of them are federal employees or auxiliaries.
They work in some tangential relationship
to the federal government.
So they are biased toward the left,
or toward progressive or leftist ideology.
Or their paycheck.
There's a real opportunity here.
And I tell people I'm the kid in the room
full of horse manure saying there's gotta to be a pony in here somewhere.
It's got to be.
So I think that they would be biased towards left wing ideology if you mean a government
existing.
Yeah, I mean, is left wing ideology their job right?
Like if you're, if your belief in the appropriate thing and the way things should run is like
Ron Paul shit where it's like let's dismantle everything.
Yeah.
Then yeah, I think most people are pretty far to the left of you.
I mean, yeah, you don't even have to have too many complicated policy positions if you
like, okay, the guy on the right says he literally wants to cut my job.
So I in order to keep my job, I have to vote this way.
I must retain the government for my job.
I guess I am pro-democratic, mainly because I have to work.
Yeah, but see, he paints this as like issues and policies and stuff.
And it's like, no, no, no, you just don't like the government existing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what these leftists are.
So many sales classes.
Yeah.
I hear in his like sales pitch, all that like that institute if fucking scary now
I'm scared of them. Yeah, see that's it's a scary idea. Yeah
Especially because the diversity of weird shitheads that have come out of it. Yeah, I know. I mean, that's wild
But the other thing too is like this is a voice that is
But the other thing too is like this is a voice that is not going to land. No, because what he's doing is essentially being like, hello, I'm a nerd and I'm a part of the establishment.
I mean, he is 100% doing exactly that.
Now granted, I liked Ron Paul, but now here I am in the Republican party and the waters are great.
You should come in, Info Warriors.
Use your extremist numbers to bolster our votes.
And it's like, they're not the ones who are going to vote.
GOP are already going to, right.
You're not going to sway a ton of people.
And the other people are not going to come.
They're probably just not going to vote at all.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah. Trump or nothing.
Baby, yeah, they're really, there's no like, yeah.
Here's a thought that I had. What's that?
Okay. So did you see any of the debate?
And the other geocort debate no Vivek rhymes with cake
Come on. Why would I watch a GOP debate? He did a lot of grandstanding
I did read that and I find this disgusting. Yeah, this is the media once again failing to learn a fucking thing about god damn
Anything yes, but the fact that I read, oh the Vic was to build a wall
on the Northern port, fuck you, you're all fucking stupid.
You're doing it again.
You're all fucking stupid and you should be ashamed
of yourself.
Yeah.
As shamed of yourself.
That was a big thought that I had as well.
Pussed that it.
Yeah, pussed.
You learn nothing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have failed us.
Um, but the second thing that I thought.
What's that?
Is now the GOP exists essentially to be a punching bag for people. Yeah, like they attach themselves so strongly to Trump that now
You need of demagogue figurehead in order like you look at that stage and all those dorks don't have a chance
Oh, no, probably the only person on that stage who has a chance that he doesn't have a chance
I'm telling you I'm telling you it is going to happen
It's going to be thinking hailey
It's gonna happen. No jump is gonna go to jail or
Ineligible to become president to Santa's is already lost cuz look at his stuff stupid fucking face
No, but they can't fuck out of here. Nikki Haley is really all they've got left.
And this once again proves one of my core beliefs. The first female president will be sold to us as a
Republican. But then you think it's also comfortable. Everything is just sunny. Here glass breaks.
Oh my god. Oh my god. What's on its ramp? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, man, that would be fun.
That would let's get a cocktail for a hot over surprise.
No, I just, I got this overwhelming feeling that it's like,
the Republican party does not matter anymore, really.
Right.
It's just there to be co-opted by whoever's going to be the biggest shithead.
Yeah.
Like, that's the model now, because people are pretty, you know, generally from what I've seen,
pretty excited about Vivek and his antics of the GOB.
Like, these debates, not enough probably to sway the needle on him as a candidate.
Sure, sure.
But that kind of behavior is what they want.
Yeah.
Out of a white guy.
Yeah, exactly.
That's not go too far. Right, the
bank. You know where you are. So it's just it's interesting to me that like I was
looking at that stage and I was seeing people who I think might have wanted to
have a debate. It's so funny to me that like you think that's possible now. You
did this to yourselves. You shot yourselves in the foot. Your party is this now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The only problem with that really is that
that is so unsustainable.
Yeah.
It's gonna take the rest of us down with it.
Yeah.
Yeah, sucks.
It sucks.
I mean, it does feel, there is a certain amount of smoke
of if you got them going around.
They've been getting out of them. Every time I look at the at the news.
Yeah. Mm hmm.
So Matt is asked why this video and viral.
And I would say because I am well connected to many media figures who helped me make it
happen.
Yes, basically, this answer is we asked her to her.
He did.
basically, his answer is we asked her to her.
You did ask her to
survive.
I think that, you know,
being there and having the
presence of buying to
film it and then to immediately
get it online, you know, if
you think about it, this happened
at 9 AM Eastern yesterday.
It was up by 9 10.
And so as we go into the news
cycle and a program like this,
producers and reporters are
looking for stories.
I'm pretty well connected in the conservative movement with reporters and with others.
He literally said that.
And so friends of mine pushed this out.
It's got over 11 million views now from my own Twitter account today.
Yep, we asked her to turn that shit.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
I was shocked.
I was expecting a lie.
I was expecting a lie that he told the truth is fair
Yeah, yeah, all right, move artificial ass shit. Yep
My friends to make it go viral. Yeah, and then they did I have very powerful and well-connected friends and media and
Yeah, and I'm no globalist. I'm just well connected in media globally. Yeah
So Alex decries the left wing violence
Oh, oh, like the finger waggers. Yeah. And then other things. Sure.
And I guess we've learned the name of this individual, but he's more of the leftist
quote, intelligentia. Their foot soldiers are antiug. And in many parts of the country, Republicans get
head over the head with baseball bats here with concrete blocks or pepper spray or
sometimes even you shot in the back. And the media base never comes up. I mean, Rand
Paul has his ribs broken by a neighbor that hated him and his lung punctured and has
been attacked. Many other times he got shot at when other Congress and police almost were killed by the range killer.
And I remember when that guy drove from Illinois
to shoot up the Republican baseball game
close to you there in DC, Wolf Blitzer said
this guy was not a monster, he was angry.
I'll never forget that quote.
So these guys, they're really the ones dealing the violence.
The most peaceful protest trying to frame us
as hyper violent as Alex trying to suggest that the media didn't cover that
shooting or Rand Paul's neighbor kicking his ass
fill that silly i read a lot about those a lot
mhm it's worth noting that all of the stuff Alex says is alive
Rand Paul's neighbor wasn't politically motivated violence those
went as long
and we've talked about the wolf blitzer thing in the past, but I think it's worth revisiting
because Alex says he'll never forget that quote.
It's not a quote.
It's entirely made up in Alex's imagination in order to justify his bullshit narrative
that the media supports people who carry out violence against the right wing.
Wolf was interviewing a friend of the shooter who said that he wasn't evil.
Wolf is actually pushing back on that.
You know, it's interesting.
Phil has clearly he was evil.
And I'm March 22nd.
And as you point out, he posted this on Facebook.
Trump is a traitor.
Trump has destroyed our democracy.
It's time to destroy Trump and company.
And then he said Republicans are the Taliban of the USA.
When you say on a Facebook post,
it's time to destroy Trump and company.
That's a threat against the president of the United States.
And that's a crime.
Excuse me, Wolf was interviewing somebody
who did a piece with the friend.
Right, right.
He wasn't talking to the friend.
Sure, sure, sure.
But Alex is a liar, and he's using those lies
to paint a picture that his political side
is under violent attack and that the media supports it.
He's doing that to scare his audience because that serves a couple of important purposes.
One, the fear keeps most people incapacitated and unable to engage with critical thinking.
If you're in danger, it is not time to assess whether or not you're in danger.
There is only time to give money to that loudmouthed coke head who's going to save you from the
bad guys.
Two, the fear intention that's built will inevitably have the effect of causing someone to take
matters into their own hands and carry out violence against Alex's opponents, which he can call
a false flag in order to justify and prove that his side is that much more under attack
and create this tension and fear cycle that continues forever.
And so it goes. For Alex, the truth isn't the truth.
His feelings are the truth.
He feels like Wolf Blitzer supported the guy
who shot Steve Scalise, and so he remembers
fake quotes that attest to that.
Sincerely, it's wild to imagine like how much of Alex's
audience thinks that they're receiving news and analysis,
and they're actually just dwelling on Alex's feelings.
Simultaneously, it's why we think about how devastating
the consequences of Alex's feelings have been on everyone else.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's not, let's not really unpack
because I don't think anybody wants to.
The idea that because of the vagaries of imagination
that we've built a society out of. One man's fiction can override
all of reality. Or at least have a dramatic impact on it for a lot of people that has real
world consequence. In the same way asteroids did around 270 million years ago.
You're giving Alex too much credit. But you But, you know, there is voter fraud.
Sure.
All right.
I'm sorry.
Are we back there?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Fuck.
It does exist.
And Alex has an example.
Well, by their yardstick, that is clear voter suppression, though, what he did to you.
And of course, we see for how he wasn't voting.
He was at the police
working there. You'll catch the Democrats a hundred times doing it. It's swept
on the rug. Look what just happened. We're a convicted member of the city council got
caught on all the footage stuffing the ballot box again. So all Democrats robbing Democrats,
the judge shut it down. There's a new election. And there are a bunch of other examples
that have broken around the country as well.
And they're now catching them.
I think that's the good news, which examples?
This process, people say, well,
there's so much election fraud, just don't vote.
No, keep voting, vote in higher numbers,
have landslides, and then investigate it,
and then force it out.
And that's why they're panicking,
trying to outlaw the idea of questioning elections.
Sassing a guy handing out sample ballots is not voter suppression.
Matthew wasn't a voter in that situation and the annoying Democrat guy didn't intimidate anyone around the idea of voting.
That's a dumb argument.
As is the idea that people are trying to make questioning elections illegal.
That's not happening.
But it's still illegal to craft an elaborate plot to lie about the election and a conspiracy to overturn the results of it because you lost.
That's not so much questioning as it is a crime.
Alex may think that they're the same thing, but he's never been able to tell what questioning
actually means.
He's always had an iffy relationship with that.
As for this thing in Connecticut, that's totally real.
But Alex has some details wrong.
This is about Joe Gannum, who was mayor of Bridgeport from 1991 to 2003.
Then he was convicted of charges ranging from
racketeering to extortion to mail fraud,
which got him seven years in prison.
I'm listening.
He was then released and reelected in 2015.
Hell yeah.
And he's been mayor ever since.
Hell yeah.
In recent Democratic mayoral primary,
there was significant evidence of ballot stuffing
at Dropboxes, so a judge ordered a new primary but according to the
New York Times quote had no authority to postpone the general election in the
meantime that means the general election will go on while the Democratic
primary has not been decided while god i love the unit the thing about
America is our no backsees,
our unspoken no backsees policy of like, okay, sure.
Maybe they should have sat a Supreme Court justice,
but it's too late now, moving on, bye.
Like it's just moving on, just keep going forward.
We're technicalities.
So the evidence in this case rises well above the kind of shotty
shit that folks like Alex and Dinesh D'Souza have presented about the 2020 election
Which is why a judge made an order like this in this case and all Alex and Dinesh can do is complain and then make tons of money complaining
It's a real bummer because this actual case of fraud will be used by these shitheads to justify their own conspiracies after every single election from here on out
But if you look at this as a movie, it's pretty comical. I mean, it is pretty. This mayors like a cartoon character in terms of
corruption. He's Ben Gazera in Roadhouse. It's 100% this. He brought a Wal-Mart to Bridgeport.
It's so much that. It's so. Oh my God. It is remarkable how there can be stories like
that you've just not heard of. Yeah. You don't live in Bridgeport. You don't live Oh my God, it is remarkable how there can be stories like that
that you've just not heard of.
You don't live in Bridgeport,
you don't live around Connecticut,
so maybe you haven't heard of the boss.
The boss.
That Tammy Hall 2023, yeah, I'm sure.
Who got reelected.
You know, that's just the way to do it though.
I was reading a little bit about it,
and he made an apology, and everybody's like,
I think you're trying to run again.
Like when he got out of prison.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
And then he just sort of did campaign stuff,
but without saying he was campaigning,
and then all of a sudden he was campaigning.
Yeah, you gotta go away to come back.
Yeah.
It's like, how many countries,
how many countries, especially in like Eastern,
East Asia where it's like,
all right, 30 years ago,
we finally got rid of that monarchy
now we've elected the son of the monarch we got rid of to become president
you know i'll write
so there's a democrats who have been telling Alex
i'm sick of this shit yeah sick of the democrats
we look i know a lot of democrats uh... who are lawyers and prominent people
and probably at dinner eating
chicken fried steak.
They like listen, I hate the Democratic Party and I hate all this, but if I don't stay in
it, I will be lose all my contracts.
Chicken fried steak is the new hot tub.
I mean, I was that for a non-sense that makes sense to you and me.
Chicken fried steak is the new hot tub.
I mean, yes.
That is, uh.
Is it, did nobody prepared us for this, right?
No.
There's no way that we could be prepared
for chicken fried steak is the new hot tub.
No.
That's just not possible.
No, nothing in this world could prepare you
for the moment that that happens.
Yeah.
Okay, good. Just to be clear that I'm moment that that happens. Yep. Okay.
Good.
Just to be clear that I'm not insane.
Nor for this.
Okay.
And you'd think it's demonized as I am in the corporate press that I would be getting
tomatoes thrown at me or beer bottles.
And that's happened a few times.
And it was happening, you know, quite a bit when Trump first had elected.
But now it doesn't happen.
And so, knock on wood.
If I happen to days, as I said that, but it happens very rarely,
this might dumps a coke on my head,
or iced tea or coffee, or throws a bottle at me,
or throws a bag of feces at me,
like Antifa did and missed me and hit Owen.
Ooh, that was like four or five years ago.
That and jail.
Yeah, that sucks.
My wife and daughter, that's three of the children,
but their older and moved out now, it's old I am.
Said, hey, I want pizza.
And I'm like, well, I don't want to wait an hour
for some delivery guy to bring it cold.
I'll go get it where you want it from.
I want it from here.
I get there, I walk in, and the little check-in places
right here, and I tell the receptionist here,
is my name, pizza.
I'm worried there's a person.
And there's a pie, my name is pizza.
Just loaded with
um I'd say middle-aged men and women mainly women it's just jam packed bars just bustling
okay and a woman comes over she goes I used to be a lib tart oh but you woke me up another
woman comes over she goes I was too and then another woman another woman I am spotted
I was gonna say what are we doing something like that happens a few days before as well
so It's happening all over the place and then I'm walking out with the pizza in the salad and
Another woman and man are walking in and they say hey, we used to be big liberals
We love you. We're awake now. We're red-built. I mean I had
Five people and I was and I was only waiting like a few minutes.
Come up to me and once one came up more came up.
That's incredible folks.
That's in places like Austin, Texas and you know, or in places like Big Bend and just
you don't matter where I go.
That's what's happening. it's a very very exciting
time to be alive so I put it to you yeah his second example is Big Ben right what do you think the
odds are that he listened to our episode from London I don't know do you think it's fresh in his mind
that he went to Big Ben and people were very fans there it feels like that such a coincidence it's quite a specific
It's such a specific it's such a specific for something that he hasn't talked about no
God damn it. I don't like this. I don't like knowing things like this chicken fried steak is the new hot tub
God damn it, dude! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You know, here's what I will say. The, he didn't, he neglected the name that the pizza place was called Mussolini's Pizza. Sure.
So there were a lot more fascist leaner patrons
than would be otherwise noted.
At first, for example, an olive garden.
Or a, you get pizza in olive garden?
Oh, I forgot.
No, it was Italian.
I was just going straight Italian.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have some thoughts about Italian food,
but we'll get to them at another time.
Yeah. So, um, Alex, this next clip is very offensive. Uh, and it's just Alex hating Muslims.
I knew we were going to get to racism sooner or later. Yep. Yeah.
Yeah. All right. We're going to start the next hour. The first five minutes, I'm going to get more into Israel and the war and play this clip on Palestinian TV saying it's okay to kidnap and keep Jewish
women as sex slaves and this is like a mainline belief. Then I'll show you Muslims mass murdering
black people and I'm not trying to attack the Muslims here. I'm just going to show you what everybody's
doing, okay? Israel's doing a lot of bad stuff too, but just understand bringing in the Muslims.
In fact, that's something I didn't get to. Israel wants to bring them here. I don't hate Israel,
but you just take that rattlesnake, okay? I'm really mad about this, okay? This is a line in the sand, okay?
You keep the little precious Muslims all right?
They're right back stay with us. I'll ever wanted
All I've needed is hate so the video that he's talking about there is from 2014
And it's not from Palestinian TV or Palestinian
person making that argument.
Right.
It's a professor from Al Azar, which is a university in Cairo.
And again, it's a decade old.
This TV appearance is actually super controversial back then because people did not agree with
the point that she was making, which was that in a legitimate war, you're permitted to
take people from the other side of slaves.
Yeah.
I'm not going to try and rationalize her position or anything, but I will say that
it is not a universally held belief as Alex seems to employ. Further, he's completely botched
his sourcing and is pretending it's not almost a decade old in order to make it relevant to the
ongoing massacre of Palestinians and create another position for him to have as opposed to dealing
with reality. Right. Alex's position seems to be, I'm fine with Palestinians being killed because I hate
Muslims and I'm starting to get mad at Israel because they're going to cause an increase
of refugees that will lead to Muslims coming to the United States and I hate Muslims.
Yeah. Seems to be about where he's at.
That is, you know, it's a difficult place to be in because on one hand you say, well,
Israel's killing people and I like that. On the you say, well, Israel's killing people. And I like that.
On the other hand, you say, Israel's sending people that I don't like to me. So if I say
I don't want Israel to kill people, who am I?
It's, it's, there's not more in depth analysis. No There comes no so
Yeah, it's just hate. I mean it really is just hate. Yeah
Who's gonna do so we have another guest that comes in oh really?
Yep, this is Julie Mickiewicz. He planned a Maclady. Okay. She's back. She's back again and again, huh with
Authority or what you would know, I don't know.
I don't know.
Back with a vengeance.
Back with a vengeance, yeah.
Back with a head of steam.
Die hard vengeance of the second go.
She's something, man.
Uh-huh.
So one of the big things that is attempting to be conveyed here
is that Alex is trying to get her to say
that the COVID vaccines had
Ebola in them. That's what we're doing. Right. That's that's what we're setting the
scene. This is the stage. Yes, there we go. That is that is one of the big messages. If
I recall correctly, that was even the like title. Yeah, the title of the episode on info
on a band dot video is Wednesday emergency broadcast,
globalist spiking COVID vaccine with weaponized Ebola says
top scientists.
All right.
Which is not born out really by her interview,
but she does bring up Ebola a couple times
and kind of insinuating incoherentish ways,
but enough for Alex to work with.
Okay.
Anyway, they're not gonna deal with much of that because she has some truly work with. Okay. Anyway, they're not going to deal with much of that
because she has some truly bizarre positions.
Okay.
Talk to us like we're not a super scientist like you
that saw this decades ago and blew the whistle.
What is the master plan?
What are they doing?
And how is it going for them?
Because it seems like there is a big awakening
and they've had to pull back some.
Well, the simple answer, I'm getting a lot better, I think,
at understanding that and speaking that.
But, you know, it's God against evil.
Interesting.
There isn't silence.
It's an interesting silence.
It's an interesting silence.
It's an interesting silence.
It's an interesting silence.
It's an interesting silence.
It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence. It's an interesting silence. ever that gave you immunity according to God. And that's what I said in the
first discussion with Mickey
Willis in that first
pandemic is lifelong
immunity that your immune
system never forgets what
it's seen. But what we've
done with every single shot
is escape the innate
immunity, your skin, your nose, your ears, your throat,
your nasal, pharyngeal cavity, the various aspects of the microbes that are by-rome,
are microbiota given by God.
Yeah, God gave you immunity. Vaccines are in a front to God.
I, I mean, that is a position to take.
It is.
That is a position to take.
I would argue of many of the diseases that vaccines
have helped eradicate.
Yeah.
God didn't do much for those.
So we're those not part of our original, helped eradicate. Yeah. God didn't do much for those.
So we're those not part of our original,
like if we didn't take vaccines back in the day,
pre-figuring out cowpox or whatever,
and everybody was dying of smallpox,
do we not have an innate immunity to smallpox?
And if that is the case, does that mean
God wants us to die of smallpox? Should we have all died out? Should we have all died out?
Because of that plague. Yeah. That we are in a defiance of God for having figured out a cure.
See now that or a preventive now. Now we're talking. I'm willing to engage with that concept.
If she were to go into that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. Interesting conversation.
But not gonna happen.
No, because this really is more just about being antivacs
and trying to shift the argument away from science stuff
while still being like, this is what real science is.
You're skimmed.
Yeah, that's rough.
Yeah.
And that's a good story though.
That's a good story that we were supposed to die out in a plague
But we defeated God. That's what's going on behind the scenes
God the globe God is actually trying to kill us because we didn't die final destination. Oh
Man we figured out this world. It's all final destination. Oh my god
Oh my god.
I gotta sit with that for a while. No, this is gonna be rough.
All right, well, while we think about that, enjoy Alex saying that the HPV vaccine was pulled.
That's not the right one.
And then, uh, Judy, having to be like, no, it was.
Somebody like Milgate, a eugenicity populationist,
obviously you just look at him,
it was a psychotic demon.
Now with the HPV shots that we know,
they had to pull years ago,
because they killed so many people
and caused all these horrible autoimmune responses.
Now they wanna try to make every little girl
in America take it.
Well, actually, they didn't pull it years ago.
I mean, I know they still have it out there,
but it's, oh, wait, what?
It got rejected to a great extent, I remember. Well, it's on the schedule and in California,
it's mandated in every little girl and boy. Well, you're the expert. Tell us what this thing
does. They pulled it. I mean, they some people didn't like it. I've talked about it negatively.
That's what they got pulled. Well, yeah, that's that's some that's some classic backpedal
in. Oh, yeah, yeah, that would
do that at the leadership institute that kind of smooth media shit. That would that would
give Steph Curry several hundred feet of space to work with there. Yeah, I find that spectacular
while panic in the moment. I mean, there could be anything. I mean, people didn't like
it. What? Tell me what does the HP vaccine do is such a great thing
It kills so many people. I mean it is it is such a great thing to ask because the answer is there's like well
It's a vaccine against HP. It's it's in the name right, but you can't answer that. Wow. You can't answer the simplest answer
Well, it turns out okay HPV is actually good
simplest answer. Well it turns out okay HPV is actually good. There we go. Here's what I'm talking about. It may or may not make you immune to most cancer. HPV doesn't cause any kind of cancer. It's not
that the virus doesn't exist. You know HIV no single virus causes you, anything if our mutual immune system.
So you think about HPV, human papaloma virus,
it causes war.
I've got one right over my right eye now,
and I've got a couple here,
and with sexual activity in college,
is the first time that you'll be exposed to it.
But we actually, that's what is happening right now.
In 1990.
What did she just tell me? Now, no, is HPV is in newborns. And it's part of that good
microbiome. Did you give your baby HPV? What's the difference between self and non-self?
By the way, it's funny you say that because I'm on a side of it's like you, but I've
even read mainstream articles and studies coming on there 29 years, almost 30, found that when the child falls down this would happen to me in the playground
Oh God, and hits their knees and gravel. Oh, no
And that that that the viruses are in the dirt and they found people that are infected with HPV or similar
Work-causing viruses are then way more
were
Resistant to other viral cancers now. You're the scientist. That's what I've read.
Is that true? Yes, because in the chair, we have microbes that actually digest. And I actually
said that. The earth is vaccinated. Get the fuck out of here. Exactly. Immunizing us. Immunization
is not vaccination. Well, that's how I got words was not sex. I got words playing baseball
and falling in gravel and cuts and you'd get a few of them. And then I read that once you have
those word viruses, it makes you way resistant to cancer. Correct. And mo wow, because you
saw a bit of war or I hate your body. Correct. If you're if you're natural, God is incredible.
If you're is poison, Our food is genetically modified.
Yeah, the reason this dirt thing doesn't work is because the ground has been poisoned by, I guess,
chemtrails or some shit, you know. Some other conspiracy will explain why this doesn't actually work.
That is a collection of words that I don't think have any connection to each other whatsoever.
Yeah. We just listen to a lot of words that could be separate.
I was listening to it and I have a feeling when I listen to her
that I'm like, I'm worried.
Yeah.
And like a lot of guests don't give me that feeling of like,
I gotta leave the room.
What else?
I can't be around this.
Yeah, what else?
No, there's a dark energy to this conversation.
Where it is, it is a certain amount of like,
what won't you do lady like?
I'm scared of this woman
Mm-hmm like in a in a real way. I want to be in a different room. You're totally right. Well, HPV vaccines
Get rid of them. They don't do anything. You should have HPV anyway because then you won't get cancer
There's just something about her being like I have one over my right eye right now
I got that in college just like what how are you talking to me about this right eye right now. I got that in college. Just like, what, how are you talking to me
about this like this right now?
Stop this.
Well, she also doesn't like tetanus vaccines.
And if she were to get her way,
it would be devastating to people in the developing world.
So medical doctors are trained to give pharmaceuticals,
whether pills or shots.
And that was the Rockefeller's in 1900, within 20 years, they just took over medicine.
Because it really was, it was even Western medicine before, what would you call medicine before they took it over?
It was healthcare. When I did something stupid and ran over a barboi or a fence and cut my leg almost at half. I go home
to my mom and say, shouldn't
I get a tent? I worry about
blood poisoning. She said, you
should have thought of that. I
told you to stay out of there.
And so of course I didn't die.
But you know, we if I had
she'd still be a great mom.
There is no shot. There is no
shot that is good or ever
provided immunization according to God. Do they give you protection
from a acute disease from a week when you're exposed? Yes, perhaps, but but again.
Well, then the contaminants sterilize your cancer in my flavor.
Correct. The chronic diseases.
So maybe more than a week, huh?
Maybe maybe maybe more than more than a week, maybe quite a while.
It gives you gives you immunity to stuff.
I mean, look, I do have a feeling that a major driver of the anti-vex sentiment is a
hate of people
in the developing world.
Yeah.
I think that people like Alex on some level are aware
that should he get his way and all these vaccines
be recalled, the people who would be hurt the most
are people who are in the developing world.
They would be dead in much higher numbers than already.
Yeah.
Are the case.
Yeah.
And I think that he understands that on some level.
And it's a, yeah, maybe.
And I think that's mixed up in his politics too, because so much of the stuff that animated
the right wing that he came out of has to do with like, we got to get rid of foreign aid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why are we spending all this money on people in other countries and stuff?
And if all those people were to die,
there'd be nobody to send the money to.
It would, it would probably would solve itself
from his standpoint.
That is the way he would see it.
Yeah. I think, I'm not sure that all of this
is like an entirely conscious thing,
but I'm fairly certain from enough viewing of his show
that some of these feelings are mixed up in there.
Yeah.
And I find it a porous.
There's, there's enough of a like, hinting towards it or an implication of like, and if this were
to happen because that's just God and I'm happy with that and I'm fine with that and
it's not really, it's not even me.
I don't have to take responsibility for it.
God doesn't provide any immunity according to the Bible when the vaccines were made vaccines have never given immunity
According to God. What does that sentence mean it means
that
God has never come out and said specifically that vaccines provide immunity. She she goes on to say that everything will be fine
the vaccines provide immunity. She goes on to say that everything will be fine
just so long as you don't inject or ingest anything
that has like, we can't inject anything.
And then you can't ingest anything that has like GMO stuff.
Sometimes I like to imagine that if like we were on a boat,
let's say human society's on a boat.
And a boat is a different environment.
It is.
You know, cramped.
If we were on this boat, I think.
We're surviving the raft.
Totally.
I think humanity, human society would maybe see this woman off the side of the boat.
That's all I'm saying.
I don't think she's going to make it past just the tetanus shot help.
Maybe when you get tetanus.
I think that she would hurt your chances of survival.
Yeah.
I will say that much.
Yeah.
So you have one last clip.
Okay.
And it's also from the two of them talking.
Great.
I'm aware that Mark Dice came in for the third hour to talk with Alex.
Gross.
But I don't care.
I think there's something overwhelming about Judy's delivery that I just kind of was like I got it
I got it out of here. No, it's really uncomfortable. Yeah, it's really uncomfortable
So we have one last clip and it's Alex telling another fun story about his dad
Okay, great which I cannot confirm nor deny you know my dad
Was a dentist, but he also owned a
Hospital with some of his partners in
in Mesquite, Texas outside Dallas. And I remember him ranting at the kitchen table
about AZT killing people, how they were blocking the good drugs, the interferon,
and then he worked with some of the doctors. And I don't want to make my
out of here, but it's true. My dad was Dallas Byers Club. He was involved,
given by the medicine. What? I love it.
Here and all this when I was a kid.
What?
I remember getting the fuck out.
I was watching a movie with him.
I really got a movie with him, but when the town's fucked out.
I came out like a decade ago with Magic Con he and where we were going to see a science fiction movie.
And when the Dallas virus club came on, my dad started crying.
And after movie, he started, he said, well, I knew that guy.
I knew those people.
So it was just crazy how that's crazy
It's crazy
Alex's dad was involved with the Dallas buyers club. I mean
They that that would be an interesting story and the timing would almost make sense somewhat
But he's lied too much for me to even give a shit and pretend to pretend to care the timing wouldn't work out
Really, yeah, I mean wouldn't work out really.
Yeah.
I mean, it would work out in as much as like,
it was like 1988, it was when that started.
I don't know.
I believe it was some time.
Yeah, and that was when Alex and his dad
would have been in Dallas.
Right, that's all I'm agreeing to it.
Yes.
Alex would have been like 14.
I, at the time.
Unacceptable.
Like I just, I don't, I don't buy any of that.
I don't buy any of that.
And I don't buy, it, Alex's dad is not told
in the truth about one fucking detail of his guy
into their goddamn life.
I don't know what Alex's dad is
because anything that Alex has told me is pretend.
I found his dental degree, so I know he is a dentist.
All right.
Um, I found a property that he owns, like land holdings.
So I know that he has that.
I wish, there's one thing that I want.
There's one thing that I want of this story
and of that family, which is for him to have a sacred family
in someone in another state.
That needs to happen.
I just need that really bad.
I know that he always says that he has a
Korean adopted sister.
Be nice if that was his dad.
Oh man.
From from another marriage.
Just someone out there, someone in
someone in Maine, you know, just sitting there going,
I'm Alex Jones's half brother and no one will ever know.
No one will ever know.
If that's a missed opportunity to really taunt him.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah. If you if you were that half-sibling,
just really just send him race memories. You remember this one, bro? Yeah, this is what I got from our litigant. That would be the best.
Oh God, that would be great.
And especially if you were older than him?
Yes, yes, he has this whole thing about like the oldest son
gets the race memories.
If he wasn't, oh my God, that'd be too good.
That would be amazing.
It'd be too good.
We just, the world isn't good enough for us.
Right, you know?
Right.
And I don't know if we've ever actually heard him
discuss whether or not, like if you get an abortion,
are you aborting the child that has the race memories?
Right, right.
Because if so, chaos.
I mean his children are,
yeah, they're the types.
They're the types.
They're the types.
They're divorced from reality.
There's a lot to ponder here.
I wonder if they can connect to God. I think they can.
I don't know. God is acting real-weird lately, according to this show.
Right. I think, look, if you ask me, I think everybody can connect to the God as they understand.
That's fair. All right. If you ask Alex, that's Alex. That's a, that's up in the year. Yeah. And if you ask Judy, no injections.
No injections.
Because immunity is only bestowed by God
through your skin and your nose.
But you know what's weird about the way she says that though,
is that it's not a lot of things.
A lot of things are wrong about her.
That's that's I won't disagree with that.
It's that it is somewhat open ended.
It's like God has never said that vaccines provide immunity.
Right. You know, vaccines, nothing is ever provided immunity according to God. See, but the
according to, I think you're taking in a way that I'm not. But you're saying that God was never
quoted as saying. I mean, it is a little bit along those lines. But I think it's like by God's will.
By God's according to see that's where we get into the issues of double entendre. Right. Yeah.
It is it is complicated. Yeah. I I don't know man. I it's a rare it's a rare experience for me to
really just get like I need to leave the room vibes from somebody, but she gave it to me hard. And the other thing too that is she keeps bringing up, uh, can't hack him lively.
Uh-huh. He's the guy who wrote Alex's books. Yeah. Because he also writes her books. Great.
Uh, I assume that's a good connection to have. Yeah. And then she's like, uh, yeah, you
know, you, uh, you always give a brain force whenever he's, you know, you take a brain force
whenever he starts working on your books.
Don't do this.
And Judy even says, when I read your book,
I would take a brain force and I was like, wait,
maybe that makes it make more sense.
Maybe there's something about being high on brain force
that like these books start to be good.
Oh, okay, so maybe it's not what's being written.
It's what's being written between the lines
so long as you are high on brain force.
I'm starting to suspect that maybe there's shit
in invisible ink that you can only see
if you're on brain force.
Maybe what happens is when you're on brain force,
you don't turn the pages, you open the book to the middle
and then you enter in.
Right. Yeah.
You remember that I was at in the bad shit,
that weed movie that covered John Stewart.
You ever do this on weed?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dave Chappelle.
Half bagged.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just that with the brain force.
Yeah, it's just that.
Yeah, what have been good if I could have remembered
the names of things?
Yeah, well, it happens.
Ah, chicken fried steak is the new hot tub.
I don't know if we're ever going to live that one down.
Nope, nope. It's the kind of thing that if we were a different show, we'd make shirts.
But oh well, that would be the most, yeah.
No, anyway, we'll be back for another episode.
Uh, button tell then Jordan, we have a website. And indeed we do it's knowledge fight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter
We are on Twitter. It's at now the gender score fight. Yep. We'll be back. But until then I'm neo. I'm Leo. I'm DCX Clark
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And now here comes the sex robot.
Andy and Chan's a sheer on the earth thanks for holding.
So Alex, I'm a first time color of a huge fan.
I love your work.
I love you.