Knowledge Fight - #879: December 20, 2023

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex covered the news about the Colorado Supreme Court ruling that Trump can't be on the GOP primary ballot.  His analysis is as reasoned and i...nsightful as you imagine it would be.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I Ready Not knowledge fight Damn and Jordan I am sweating Knowledge fight that come it's time to pray I have great respect for knowledge, but knowledge fight knowledge fight I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys. Chang Lee are the bad guys knowledge It's time to pray. I have great respect for knowledge, mate. Knowledge, mate. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys. Shang-Ee are the bad guys.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Knowledge, you can fight. Dan and Jordan, knowledge, fight. Let's go, let's go, let's go. I need money. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Let's go, let's go, let's go. And the advantage. The game, the advantage.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Stop it. And the advantage. And the advantage. The game, the advantage. It's time to pray. And the advantage. It's your the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end couple dudes, etc. And we're should put the altar of Sleen and talk a little bit about Alex Joe Oh indeed we are damn Jordan Jordan quick question for you. What's your rights about today, buddy? Why don't you go first? My bright spot in is a yesterday. I had a lovely lunch with my cousin You know, he was a cousin that I used to work for sure
Starting point is 00:01:22 You know we respect it. We spent 10 years together, you know, watched it build a business. A lot of lunches during that time. Watched his family grow up, you know, like all that stuff is good. You know, we were in different places now. It's really good lunch. It was really good time.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Yeah. It was good. What'd you get? Um, we went to, we went to this place. Okay. Japanese food. Oh my God. Sure. So good.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Yeah. Where'd you get? Your order. They had this yellow tail with jalapenos stuff on there. That was really, really good. Spicy fish. Then they had this black cod. That was really good.
Starting point is 00:01:57 But the thing they had were these crispy rice balls that were like, I mean, I can't describe them. They were astonished. I think the mind can drum up memories of rice about think about like a little Quarter right and then that's like a little a couple millimeters of sticky crispy rice on there, right sure then there's some Stuff that they whip stuff. There's some stuff that they whip, the, the, their shop people. Like a cream of sorts. It's like a cream of sorts, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:29 That sounds good. It's that, that's the word that escaped me. I went and said with the stuff they whip. Yeah, it's a whip thing. He whipped it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got some divo in there. No, it was great.
Starting point is 00:02:41 It was good lunch. Good to see you. Wonderful. Glad you had a good time. What's your bright spot? Look, I, this was going to be, this was my plan, this is my bright spot, but I realized I've really backed myself into it. Absolutely corner of not being able to talk about it, really. But that is that last night was the finale of Survivor. Right. I don't want to give any spoilers in case people are listening to this haven't watched it yet. So I guess there's like a season ended. It's fun. Yeah, I guess watching it.
Starting point is 00:03:07 But okay, let's let's how about we do it this way? Okay, I actually what were the expectations that you had that you got and did not get out of the expectations low low. Okay, achieved. Okay. Yes. Good news. It did not spot. It did not go beneath my expectations.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Okay. Um, but yeah, it wasn't't, nothing really all that exciting. Sure. You know, just kind of a season ended as, you know, I felt it probably would. Yeah. But here's something I can bring up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I watched it live on, like Paramount Plus has CBS, you can watch live on it. Okay. Local CBS station. Sure. And I've never watched it live on there. So I've never had. Sure. And I've never watched it live on there, so I've never had to watch commercials. I've always watched it like the day after
Starting point is 00:03:49 on Amazon Prime. And so like I was watching it with commercials. And I do think, I haven't watched live TV with commercials in a long time. It's just, I only see YouTube commercials, and it's generally I skip them, and it doesn't really make that much of an impact. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:06 There's like, maybe I'm falling into a hacky 80s stand-up routine, but I don't know why they need all these medication commercials. I get shit. It's overwhelming. Yeah. It was really... Well, it's because the only people who watch live broadcast TV anymore need a lot of medications. But I would assume that something they deal with with a doctor, not with commercials. That's the part that doesn't exist to me.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I always think- I always think- I don't understand how this is a viable sales tactic. I guess it is just like I saw a commercial, I'll ask my doctor and then they'll prescribe it for me. I guess that's how it works, but that seems so foreign to my mind. Well, I think a lot of people would like to put, you know, like think about what we do, you know, like, how is it possible that people take so much medical information from a guy screaming on a thing? Man, you look at the rest of all medical information.
Starting point is 00:05:00 You, most people take medical information advice from up guys screaming on a thing. I guess it's true. I mean, I guess that are, you know, the way our medical information advice from up guys screaming on a thing. I guess it's true. I mean, I guess that are, you know, the way our medical system set up, it doesn't leave a lot of time for doctors to deal with patients and kind of have to advocate for yourself in a lot of situations. So maybe, maybe it is like a far more effective way to get like, hey, bother your doctor about this thing or it's bleak.
Starting point is 00:05:24 It's bleak. It's bleak. Yeah. It was a lot. I think there was like seven or eight different medications or vaccines or things. All right. Oh, that's so good. It's very strange. Yeah. Every now and again, I'll watch like, it's the only thing I watch live sports. You know, every now and again, I'll watch like, it's the only thing I watch live sports, you know? Every now and again, I'll watch basketball game or something and like to walk into live commercials from never watching live commercials, it's like a completely different world.
Starting point is 00:05:56 What do people want? What are they doing? You know, and it's like all of our ads are kind of targeted based on our algorithms. And then to just see what anybody could need. Sure. Like, people are nuts out there, man. There's also man for a chia pet.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I'm like, see, what are we doing? There's an ad for a chia pet. Well, a fuck is happening. It's not a original chia pet or like a new version of the chia. One of them was Willie Nelson. And so it was like, hair was the place where the chia grew. Willie Nelson has long, straight hair.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah. Is it supposed to grow into a ponytail? Yeah, yeah. You put it all along the... That's a really fun. Yeah, and there's Bob Ross. Sure. There's Bob Ross one.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Gotta have a Bob Ross. Which is strange, because I don't know who that's marketed towards exactly I Mean obviously I guess it's probably adults like shoulder people who would know who Bob Ross No, I mean my wife art teacher students all know who Bob Ross is Is that self-selected in an art class? I mean you would think so but I'm at the same time It's not like all these high school students are in the art class because they're huge fans of art, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:08 If you recall taking art class in high school, a lot of people took art class because it wasn't study-based. But do they know who the artist of light is? I don't know. I do. Oh, no, that's Thomas Kincaid, right? Right. The painter of light. Yeah, do they know him? That's a good question. And would they like a cheap? That would be fun. I do assume that kids know who Willie Nelson is, but I don't know if they're that into him. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I can't make more sense to have like, boy. What a little Noss X. I couldn't come up with an example of like, who do the kids like? Who do the kids like who to kids like Jonas Brothers what's going on Shit even even our old references are old. Yeah, we're three generations removed That's how fast time is in pop culture these days. Anyway commercials are be well-during yep true So Jordan today with an episode to go over I had
Starting point is 00:08:04 intended in some ways emotionally prepared myself that maybe we would be just in the past for the end of 2023, but we got jostled back into the present because big news. What happened? Well, we had that whole Colorado Supreme Court decision. The Trump can't be on the ballot. Sure, sure. And so that drew us back to the present. We got to, we got to talk about it. Yeah. You got to see what Alex is up to. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:28 So we're going to be talking about December 20th, 2023 that was Wednesday's show. Okay. And we'll get down to that. But first, let's say hello to some new wankers. Oh, that's great idea. So first, Taaru T. Thank you so much, you're now, Palsy Wank.
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Starting point is 00:09:16 I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. I mean, it does eventually wear on me a little how many people say we've ruined their lives with this podcast. I mean, I recognize that there's a fun joke There's a there's a joking element to it, but at the same time if it's this consistent There's a consistency to it. That says a lot So they also got a technical credit in the mix or so. Thank you so much to from CJ and Charlotte
Starting point is 00:09:37 This one goes out to Nick Fuentes. Here's tiny little mustache by Stephen Lynch. Thank you so much. You're an eye out technical Great. I'm a policy walk. For God, go home here, mother, tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, satanite sent me a book in a poop. Daddy shark. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't wanna hate black people.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So, as I already mentioned, we are here in the present I want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So, as I already mentioned, we are here in the present because of the Colorado Supreme Court. Right. And Alex starts his show off with a pre-taped message about this very big news.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Okay. The Supreme Court of Colorado in a four-three decision without Trump ever being convicted of January 6th or any other garbage. Just said Trump is off the ballot in the primary so you can't vote for him to be president and they say other states will follow. We've seen Jack Smith, the politically motivated operations. We've seen trials in New York without juries against Trump. This is criminal activity in front of everyone.
Starting point is 00:10:47 This is the oligarchy that's hijacked our country, setting up a totalitarian dictatorship in our face. The Supreme Court must act quickly to overturn this, but you see the incredible pressure going on against the US Supreme Court right now by the media, the attacks on Clarence Thomas and Moore This is a dark day. Oh, they're making their move. Poor guy. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot going on here. So I'll try my best to sort through the steps of how we got to the place we all right now with Alex
Starting point is 00:11:16 making these panicy pronouncements. On September 6th of this year, nine Colorado voters filed a suit against the Colorado Secretary of State, asserting that the Secretary did not have the authority to place Trump on the GOP primary ballot because he was ineligible to be president because he participated in an insurrection. These voters may not have all been Republicans, but they are all eligible to vote in the GOP primary, which in Colorado means that they cannot be registered Democrats. There's semi-open primary system allows people who are registered members of the party and unaffiliated voters the ability to vote in a particular party's primary, so the bottom
Starting point is 00:11:51 line here is that there's no Democrat involvement in the genesis of this suit. As a matter of the case progressing, they held a trial beginning on October 30th, which Trump was able to participate in and present evidence to his defense. The case resulted in a final order on November 17th, finding, quote, by clear and convincing evidence that the events of January 6th constituted an insurrection and President Trump engaged in that insurrection. It would be hard to come to any other conclusion. Clear and convincing evidence.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Any other conclusion, isn't it? However, the court also found that based on some legal technicalities based on the interpretation of the language of the 14th Amendment, the presidency wasn't an office that was covered by the prohibitions of the law, which is to say it's not an office under the United States and the precise language that's in the Section 3. Yeah, I read a whole thing. This got escalated to the Colorado Supreme Court who agreed at the findings of the lower court that Trump's actions constituted participation in its direction, but disagreed with their interpretation
Starting point is 00:12:51 of the 14th Amendment, ruling that Trump could be removed from the ballot because of his ineligibility to become president. This is messy stuff, and it's anyone's guess how this plays out from here. The language in the Colorado Supreme Court ruling is even pretty clear about that. They said, quote, we are also cognizant that we travel in uncharted territory and that this case presents several issues of first impression. Because of the magnitude and unpredictable nature of how this ruling goes, the courts stayed their ruling until January 4th, the day before the Colorado Secretary of State's
Starting point is 00:13:21 deadline to authorize candidates. That way, if the Supreme Court decides to weigh in and over rules this, then the ruling will have had no impeding effect on Trump's ability to run, and he'll still be on the ballot. On the other hand, if this does get upheld by the Supreme Court, shit's gonna get nuts. I don't think there's a very strong possibility of this because the current Supreme Court is a bunch of clowns, but there is an outside possibility. The obsession with states' rights runs deep with the conservative types, and for years it's been this really big no-no to have the federal government meddling in how states
Starting point is 00:13:51 choose to run their elections. It's unlikely, but not impossible, that they would see overturning this ruling as an imposition on the state, but I'm not holding my breath, and they have no problem being rank hypocrites, so I don't really believe that's going to be a factor. Let's not, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Everything that happens at the Supreme Court is complete pretend now. But even if this does stand, then I could see some voters in other states wanting to try the same thing. But in most cases, it's probably too late. These cases take time to unfold and the deadlines for primary candidates is fast approaching in most states. Like the Iowa caucus is January 15th. That should
Starting point is 00:14:29 be right around the corner. Yeah. Super Tuesday is March 5th. There probably isn't time for all these other states to try to reproduce the result of this Colorado decision, even if they wanted to and the Supreme Court upholds it. Right. When I hear Alex trying to present the literal mountain of evidence of Clarence Thomas' corruption as media attacks trying to make him intimidated to overturn this Colorado case, I just can't help but think of how like through his whole career, Alex is desperately branded himself as the champion against corruption. That's how the like the voiceover guy describes him in bumpers when he comes in from break. Anyway, I just want to reflect a minute about how that entire aspect of his personality is a complete farce that fraud Everybody should look at the Supreme Court right now and realize that our country's failed like Just just just the idea just the idea that
Starting point is 00:15:18 Clarence Thomas Did all of the stuff what he has a friend and you know and I can't I can't stress enough It is not under question that Clarence Thomas is bought and paid for by a billionaire that is not in argument because he has a friend That is not even a question. He has been purchased They did a report that he was going to quit for money and then they gave him money to not quit That is a definition of buying someone. Or what a friend does. So, you see a friend in need, you are the fact.
Starting point is 00:15:51 From a little lifeline. The fact that we, 300 odd million people, a government with guns, etc, are going to look at this and go, what you're going do people a few hundred years ago who own other human beings they knew what they were talking about that's what we're gonna do on a daily basis How do you mean exactly what we're gonna do fuck all about this yeah, and we're just gonna What I don't know what the alternative the I'm not saying do nothing good don't get it don't get it No, no, I understand, but like I don't know what the alternative, I'm not saying do nothing. Don't get it to the side. No, no, no, no, I understand.
Starting point is 00:16:25 But I don't know what the alternative is because obviously I don't think that over throwing the Supreme Court or engaging in our own insurrection is necessarily a productive way to get where we want to end up. You end up probably running the risk of destroying the system and leaving a power vacuum that the extreme right will end up filling mhm far more effectively and violently than we could ever check uh... so i mean obviously you would want reform
Starting point is 00:16:55 but how do you do it well i mean that there's there's really only one way because there's no way to overlook or there's no oversight of the supreme quite like p-right like you can impeach a judge but it's not gonna happen but they would have to okay it the judge himself would have to be like I guess you guys can impeach me it's not gonna it doesn't go well the only thing you do would be to pack the court and add a bunch more justices and the only way to successfully pull that off would be not to add like two or three,
Starting point is 00:17:28 but to add like 20. And then you could finally put enough people in there that it wouldn't be possible really to have like a five for conservative majority. It has to be enough people where there's just no point even trying to do that. I do think that that is probably a more productive, like, view of something that could politically be done.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Because you do end up, if you have a tribunal, more than you have a crew. Yeah, I mean, it's absurd. It divests some of the potential power that can be corrupted from each individual. Exactly. And I do think that that's probably what we should try and garner the political will towards. Yeah. I mean, if you own a Supreme Court justice now,
Starting point is 00:18:17 you functionally own one-third of the United States government by yourself. That's probably bad. I'm going to throw that out there. Probably a bad thing. It's at least not good. So Alex starts the show proper. And here's where he's at. Emergency broadcast. The Democratic Party is officially establishing a permanent dictatorship of America. This is not just against Trump, but the American people's right to elect who they want to represent them. A permanent dictatorship with a flimsy ceremonial vestigial election system. You think they're going to just stop it, Trump? 320 days, 12 hours, 56 minutes, 12 seconds.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Until judgment day. All right, here's the bottom line. This has never been used against the president. Can the 14th Amendment, I've got the Constitution printed out right here. There haven't been any less press or anything unless you're a Democrat or lying, and let the administration, unless you're a Democrat, they're lying, that no one could be barred if they're not convicted of insurrection. They call it an insurrection. No one's been convicted of an insurrection. So this specifically relates to section three
Starting point is 00:19:37 of the 14th Amendment, which doesn't say that a person needs to be convicted of anything to be barred from office. This section was specifically inspired by a need to keep people who supported the Confederacy out of the government, and the precise issue of whether or not a conviction of anything to be barred from office. This section was specifically inspired by a need to keep people who supported the Confederacy out of the government and the precise issue of whether or not a conviction of anything was required for disqualification is a matter that was studied by the Congressional Research Service.
Starting point is 00:19:55 They had this to say, quote, section three of the 14th Amendment does not expressly require a criminal conviction and historically one was not necessary. Reconstructionary prosecutors brought civil actions in court to oust officials linked to the Confederacy right there's precedent that this has happened without a conviction yeah what Alex is saying just isn't true he's not reflecting the consensus of legal experts he's espousing a view that's directly contrary to the actual history of how this section of the amendment has been applied throughout our country and just mirroring the like the rhetoric of shithead right wing ding dong's that he follows on twitter
Starting point is 00:20:29 to ilex's other point that uh... they say it's an interaction but no one's been convicted crs has an interesting point of slate agreement that comes from the fact that quote the u.s. Constitution does not define insurrection or rebellion ironically quote it's generally up to the president to determine whether a civil dis uh... disturbance rises to the level of an insurrection or rebellion. Ironically, quote, it's generally up to the president to determine whether a civil disturbance rises to the level of an insurrection.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Obviously, Trump had no interest in calling January 6th an insurrection, so that was never gonna happen. But there's no agreement that presidential declaration is necessary to establish that something is in fact an insurrection. One thing that's gonna be difficult to get around is that the original trial that led to this Colorado
Starting point is 00:21:05 Supreme Court decision, part of it was they found, quote, by clear and convincing evidence that the events of January 6th constituted an insurrection and President Trump engaged in that insurrection. That goes a long way towards clearing up some of the confusion about terms and definitions and linguistics. How so?
Starting point is 00:21:22 You're going to have to address this. There's a lot of wiggle room in there. Hmm Where okay, so clear and convincing evidence right to who the court relative words my friend clear Anybody can see things clearly or not clearly. It's a relative term crystal clear Pepsi whoa That's impossible to see through that shit. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think there, you know, this argument of the, you need to be convicted.
Starting point is 00:21:52 That's garbage. You just toss that aside. Yeah. The argument about definitions is something that could get a little bit messy in terms of some interpretation. There's, there are arguments on either side in terms about like does Congress need to be involved in invoking this? Sure. Does the president fall under the auspices of this disqualification?
Starting point is 00:22:13 Right. So like there are those, those issues that some people do have differing opinions on, but in terms of the stuff that Alex is choosing to point out, like those are all non factors. Well, I mean, it's important to remember that we are talking about the amendment in the context of a different problem it was created to deal with you know i mean like this is not the civil war uh... yeah well well i mean i mean in terms of like how to remedy this situation.
Starting point is 00:22:45 We are foolishly trying to use the framework of an amendment designed around a different situation. Right, and then- It's unfortunately the closest thing that's applicable. Exactly, but back then they were like, well, we better figure out what to do about this. And so we'll write a new thing. Right, we can't do that now.
Starting point is 00:23:03 No, that's the problem. We could never even pass a law, let alone a fucking amendment. Couldn right we can't do that. No, that's the problem We could never even pass a law let alone a fucking amendment couldn't even begin to do that We would have to and I mean the reason that it worked is because When you win a civil war the people who disagree with you don't get a say anymore Yeah, there's something to be said for that It was a empowering time for getting things done. For getting things done. You had to win a war. You had to win a war first, but you could do stuff at the end of that. So there's huge news across the board. Um, that Alex is not going to get
Starting point is 00:23:34 to. Yeah. But he says he's going to get to it. Okay. And then he complains. Yeah. All right. We have a huge broadcast for the mindset, special guests and all hell breaking losses. I just said on Jeffrey Epstein on the client list and Trump and taken on the ballot by the Democrat Party Supreme Court justices there, total elections have in our faces, huge news on the battle fronts in Israel and in Europe, Ukraine. It's just massive and we're going to do our best to go over all of it today.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Obviously, front and center is going to be Trump being taken off the ballot. Yeah, obviously. Colorado. And then, Krenshaw of Texas supporting it. Oh, my God, he's horrible. But he has an eye patch. People have a thing for veterans. I don't love veterans, but not Benedict Arnold's. I mean, we've got the Irish swammy saying he's going to withdraw from
Starting point is 00:24:28 Colorado ballot. He said other Republicans should to his credit. The Sanuses come out. So the same thing that he doesn't support what's happening. So there's a lot of other news stories that Alex doesn't seem to think is as important as the Trump drama. But what I find amazing here is you can see the instincts that Alex has. It's not to talk about the story in terms of what happened, what the ruling means, what are the dynamics at play. No, he launches into character-based gossip coverage of the story. Yeah. Who's for it? Who's against it? It's covering the news like he's a reality show wrap-up host instead of God's chosen heroes selected to deliver the truth needed to vanquish the
Starting point is 00:25:02 devil. Also Dan Crenshaw tweeted this in response to the ruling. You got quote, the Colorado Supreme Court just disqualified Trump from the 2024 election. You can have your own opinions, but here's the thing. American citizens have the right to vote for whoever they want. That's democracy. The Supreme Court needs to set this right. So it seems like Crenshaw said exactly the opposite of what Alex is claiming. That is, it was confusing for me to hear that Dan Crenshaw was in favor of that
Starting point is 00:25:27 That was that would have been an interesting turn. Yeah Yeah, Alex probably just misread a meme or tweet someone one of his idiot friends posted in ran with it because he hates Crenshaw to begin with Yeah, that makes sense another thing the fake pledging to withdraw from the Colorado primary if they didn't let Trump back on the ballot Is kind of giving up the game a little bit. He knows Dan Welley has no chance at even coming in third in the GOP primaries So him saying he's going to give this up is him threatening to sacrifice nothing for the opportunity to grandstand Which is really what his entire campaign is about to begin with. This is a prime opportunity for Vivek to further solidify himself with extreme right wing media figures and stake out his place in that ecosystem Further, if he has any actual interest of being in the government, then he's making a brilliant
Starting point is 00:26:08 calculation. He has zero chance of winning, but if Trump wins, that dude is all about loyalty. Making high-profile, subservient moves like this could fuck around and get Vivek into vice presidential consideration. Leaving all those potential angles aside, it's really funny for me to see Vivek thinking that he can threaten to withdraw from the primary, like it's going to have any sway on overturning a court decision. Like the Secretary of State is going to ignore the Colorado Supreme Court because this ding-dong polling at 4% is throwing a tantrum. Come on,
Starting point is 00:26:36 come on man. It is to all of our detriment that the style guides of every major publication have not been updated to include just like anytime Vivek speaks Jerk off motion like shut up man. There's no point in him talking and that the that they newspapers keep like Vivek says stop it all of you stop it well you're embarrassing yourselves I mean or at least you're embarrassing me. I do, I do think it might be necessary for people to talk about the fact that he's throwing around all that great replacement shit. Meanwhile, Trump's talking about poisoning the blood of America. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Like sure. You know, that's relevant. Eh, is it? Maybe it should be covered slightly differently, but who if, okay, how about this? If you are surprised, they're Nazis now, I'm glad you're finally here. Uh-huh. But that you're surprised says way more about you than it says about, oh, they're Nazis now. Maybe you're just like a benefit of the doubt guy. Maybe you are a benefit of the doubt guy. Maybe this is a shock to your system. Oh, my Trump has started using Nazi terminology.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Who could ever have imagined that a Nazi would do that? Yeah. So the State Department, right? They go around and they get other countries to disqualify people from ballots and stuff. Okay. All right. Alex is gonna talk about this a little bit.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Is this domestic spying? I don't think so. I think Alex is just he has a weird attempt at an argument and spoiler alert. It's because he saw a tweet. Oh, we've got massiveness on that front. And then what we do is what other folks don't do. And I was sure everybody did this, but we we connected in to the state department that supposedly oversees elections around the world. And unless they're overthrowing your government, they went down last year and sent it up. Rob Olsonaro has been banned for running for president for eight years. They admit they were behind that. And they go around to all these other countries. They say, oh, you're outlying people voting for who they want. You're pulling candidates off the ballot. I got a bunch of examples around the world of the U.S. sanctions against Venezuela, other countries, because they're pulling the same communist totalitarian
Starting point is 00:28:49 fascistic tyranny. I mean, this is, died in the wall. If this was an alcoholic beverage, it's 200 proof tyranny. It's solid, thoroughbred, triple crown, evil. Don't drink that evil. I like that. I mean, as far as a turn of phrase goes, this is 200 proof tyranny. That's not bad thoroughbred thoroughbred tyranny. So I'm going to wait until Alex gives any of those examples that he has because I've played that game way too many times.
Starting point is 00:29:18 More often than not, the copious examples of tyranny never materialize and I end up on a wild goose chase. That said, he did bring up a Bolsonaro. so let's touch on that for a minute. Alex cannot prove that the U.S. State Department was involved in the decision to bar Bolsonaro from running for office. He's just asserting that confidently because he knows that trick's most listeners into assuming there's no way you would say something so confidently if he's just making it up. I mean, that would be an insane thing for a person to just make up that our state department
Starting point is 00:29:45 banned Bolsonaro from the ballot of another country. You wouldn't just make that up, would you? He did. Couldn't believe it. Even so, he just can't run until 2030. You know, like that's what Bolsonaro's situation is. He's on time out because he abused his elected position in multiple instances. Pursue also has a lot more of a precedent of this kind of thing than the US does.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Like, the current president Lulo has previously ruled and eligible to run for office, and then he had his eligibility reinstated. There are other figures in Brazil's history who have been ineligible. It's something that has been happened. It is something that there is something we said about a country that is more open with its corruption, because you know, it's like, hey, listen, we know our government's corrupt. They've been doing this shit for a long time. We've got ways to kind of deal with it. Kind of. Also, like the Brazilian right wing doesn't
Starting point is 00:30:34 even care about this as much as Alex does. Since after he lost the last election, Bolsonaro fled to Florida for a few months and left the opposition with no leadership, they are not that worried that he can't run. Yeah. Alex also brings up Venezuela, which is interesting to me. On the one hand, Alex believes that the globalists are in cooots with Nicholas Maduro as they were with his successor Hugo Chavez. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yet at the same time, apparently, the globalists in the State Department are sanctioning Maduro for not having fair elections. Existing within Alex's reality can be a bit perplexing because you're demanded to believe A and not A constantly. Right. Also does Alex not remember when the US State Department tacitly supported Juan Guaido declaring himself a legitimate president in 2019? Their electoral situation is all kinds of messy.
Starting point is 00:31:17 And as bad as it feels here, I don't think it's comparable. Probably not. No. I mean, one might even say that the State Department, uh, just, just saying, yeah, we think this guy one could be a little bit of a step too, too far. Mm-hmm. Sometimes, but who knows? I, I don't want to give the appearance that I believe that the State Department is, uh, all, uh, doing everything right, particularly as it relates to self and land American countries. Not a good track record.
Starting point is 00:31:47 No, no. That is not my argument at all. But my argument is what Alex is saying is dumb. Yes. And not based in reality. Agreed. So Alex is going to get to the documents here about the Colorado Supreme Court case,
Starting point is 00:32:02 but he gets kind of sidetracked. This is so incredible. So let's just go ahead and plow into this right now. the right side track this is so incredible so let's just go ahead and plow into this right now ladies and gentlemen and I'll show you all the documents the constitution the articles everything that I just mentioned I got four stacks on this breaking Colorado Supreme Court is qualified Trump the 24-malot Supreme Court to make final decision and it continues
Starting point is 00:32:26 here. Here is the Supreme Court, Justice is in Colorado. Look at these turds. Look at these turds. Look at these turds. This pulls up a picture of them and it starts insulting them a little bit. Also, they've gotten a huge flood of threats in the aftermath of this movie. Yeah, which, you know, Alex certainly isn't not playing into. Yeah. Why? I don't even know, you know, that this is confusing to me. I don't understand. I don't understand why people are that into the law because one of our Supreme Court
Starting point is 00:32:59 justice is owned by another. You know, I don't like that. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. People make threats like that. That's what I'm saying. Some of us are owned by a right wing billionaire. That't like that. Well, people make you threats like that. That's what I'm saying. Some of us are owned by a right wing billionaire. That's what I'm saying. You guys won.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Stop it. No, I don't think that they're that into the law. Right. I think that it feels good to threaten people. Sure, sure. I think that's really, I think it's exciting for them to feel like threats are activism. Right. That's what I mean though.
Starting point is 00:33:22 It's like, I got that a few reports back, you know, where it's like, this Supreme Court could still, you know, we didn't know as much as we do literally in the past week, you know. Yeah. Now that we know what we know, it's like, oh well, the moment this happened, it's all over. There was no point in pretending that there's a swing
Starting point is 00:33:42 or that there's a different thing. It's all over, right? So they won like it just like celebrate. I'm bummed out that people on the right aren't just celebrating after the news about the Supreme Court. Well, because I think I think you mean in terms of the Colorado? I mean, I mean in terms of no, no, no, I mean in terms of the right like so the report about ending No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, if the Supreme Court is lying to you in order to do unpopular right wing things, then you won. Yeah, but you're brave. No, because that's gauche and you run the risk of, you know, looking like the bad guy.
Starting point is 00:34:35 You need to want to do that because you want to feel good about yourself. But it's the thing they already look like the bad guys. Not if they pretend that they don't. But then they get mad and threaten people. Exactly. Exactly. It does, but that they get mad and threaten people. Exactly. Exactly. It does, but that's more fun for them because it feels righteous. There's a feeling of righteousness.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Such a bummer. It is. It is a real ball. At least a balloon that's like, hey, we own one. You know, like that would be nice. Well, the Wii would be a little bit iffy there. Yeah, that's a good point. He owns that.
Starting point is 00:35:02 That's really one of the judges. Yeah. So Alex has some thoughts about this, the whole proceeding with the Colorado. Colorado Supreme Court yesterday to qualify Trump from the 24 ballot. The legal theories are based on section three of the US Constitution, 14th Amendment, which takes public officials who have engaged in insurrection or rebellion. Maybe this qualified from public office, but there was no trial, no jury, judges don't get to decide unless you're in North Korea. I don't think I get to decide deciding from state in New York. Judges found my fate in the Sandy Hook stuff in Texas and Connecticut. it. This is judicial tyranny and it is a legal coup by the ambulance chasers over our country. There was a trial at the beginning of the case that led to the Colorado Supreme Court decision.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Yeah. Alex is lying about there not being one because it helps him make this case easier and he's lazy. Way easier. Trump's lawyers could have requested a jury trial in his case in New York, but they didn't. He may not have gotten one because the statute that he's in violation of his generally handled with a bench trial with a judge and not a jury, but he could have requested one and he very well might have gotten it. Similarly, Alex could have had as much of a jury trial as he wanted if he had just cooperated with the discovery process of his case. He and Trump have both landed themselves squarely into the positions they are in now and are
Starting point is 00:36:22 desperate to present the mess they've made as evidence of their own persecution. It's sad. It's very sad. It's baby shit. And they should just grow up. But there's so much like upside in pretending that you're the victim of this judicial tyranny. Yeah. I mean, it's such a fun character to play.
Starting point is 00:36:43 And it's so easy to forget that the rules are arcane to the point of absurdity. You know, like, oh, there wasn't even a trial. No, my friend, in order to get a case in front of the Colorado Supreme Court, this trial had to occur, then this motion had to be filed, then this motion had to be refiled, and then this trial had to occur,
Starting point is 00:37:02 and then blank, and then blank, and then blank, and then went to the appeals process. And then another month habit, you don't understand. There's no such thing as just, oh, they ruled on it. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Bambi cable. Yeah, no, not how this works, man.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Done. So Alex reveals a little bit more about Dan Crenshaw. Sure. And I realized what was going on here was not exactly what Alex had presented. Ah, the big promise. One last night he's on the show in an hour and 15 minutes today, a real leader. No way he's a sleeper seller operative folks. Wait, that's racist. Yeah, that's racist. That's racist. Damage the globalist. You don't do that when you are with them. You do it.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Krenshaw just did not got his tweet here. When Vivett Ramaswani said, I'm pulling out a collar on it. Other should boycott him as fraud. He said, good. You should pull yourself on all the ballots. He supports this evil. Krenshaw. Wait, what is the biggest liar in the Republican party and makes me want to throw up weed him to be voted out of office. He is disgusting. He's a disgusting disgusting person. I'll show you that. I'll just show it to you right now before I put it in the comments. Why not? I promised why Promise, 20 pledges to withdraw from Colorado ballot amid Trump removal. And here's Dan Krenshaw. Maybe he just could job from all the other states too.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And then he's out there supporting this. Wow. Good impression. Dan Krenshaw. The gay pirate. Here we go. Is literally saying you can't vote for who you want. Man, he is disgusting. Can't you all say literally the opposite? He's just making fun of the fake. That was it. Yep. He's just saying, maybe you should withdraw balls.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Yeah. I like that there's lying about his position. The air cares. But when you lying about his positions, cares. But when you said he's racist, are you saying because there's no way he's a sleeper? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I think. I think that I understand your reading of that comment.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Sure. And I think it's more about the fact that he has like Soros connections in his younger life. I think it's more of a political sleeper cell kind of thing than it is anything that has to do with race. I am one to acknowledge Alex's deep racism. Sure.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And, you know, I'm not in denial of that at all, but in this case, that wasn't how it led to me. Sure. I mean, I don't have the full context of that, so yeah, sure. I think it's about criticisms of theex's early life and his education. Right, right, right. Yeah, no, I'm willing to say that that was, that's the case and not the other case.
Starting point is 00:39:51 It's not like I'm running low on racism examples, you know? Like I can give up on this one. Yeah, yeah. This one, not racist. My bag, still full. Right, still full. I just wanted to give a little bit of can't you know what you can't always be espousing racism he has always be at
Starting point is 00:40:11 you just not physically possible yeah sometimes sometimes there is another explanation for the things that he's saying it could be misread and I think it's I think it's fair to you know point that out 99.9% time with Alex. It's a dick, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. It's true. Yep. So Alex is gonna get into all these examples of the state department and the proof of software. Yeah, let's go.
Starting point is 00:40:37 So before he does, he just has to basically espouse his brand. Sure. This is a minute and 42 seconds of him essentially telling you how you should look at him. Brand awareness. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna show you the State Department. I'm a Constitutional of it. We're not like mainstream media here. The whole thing is to say things that I showed to you. We, we, we, neuratically show you everything. I was on Crowder show today and I was putting myself down. He said, why are you doing that? He didn't stop. No, no, no, no, because I'm a center, folks,
Starting point is 00:41:11 I've made big mistakes. And I was making the point that Manlin Albrich is on Iraq to kill two million people. The time she she's the interview that was halfway through it So she killed a million half of the children of the age of 10 and she said yeah, we killed him We do it again. It was a good price to pay and I said I've never killed anybody and I've got to be banned Everyone I'm like whoa, oh wait. I'd actually killed someone my children and all the people I murdered oh for God's sake I knew what I was doing. I believe the lies. I was a teenager girls are like now. I wouldn't push them to have abortions But they're like give me 300 bucks And I did that so I admit that so people that have had abortions can know you can be forgiven you can repent God will give you a mission
Starting point is 00:41:53 You probably gonna go through some hell and Pinton is that the rule But is that a one mission per abortion? It is the heart Suicide squad got a patient that's from up yet murdered on a suicide measure because he was lost. There we go. He later, he was really repented and it was real. So God forgave him. Transaction. So yeah, I say terrible things about myself in a trip because I want you to know I'm real folks and realities what matters and being bonafied and being the real McCoy, we're going to bring that back. That's what this broadcast is all about, but that means you gotta be honest when you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Cause that's an example to others, ladies and gentlemen. Be the example, Alex. So none of what he said is true, except for possibly the parts where he said he paid for a bunch of abortions. That is almost certainly true. All this is just bullshit, but it's the declaration of the brand. This isn't Alex, but it's how Alex wants to be seen
Starting point is 00:42:43 as bona fide, as someone who's neurotically proving the points that he makes with documentation, as someone who's willing to admit when he's wrong. These are diametrically opposed to the real person and media figure that he is, but if you say it enough times, people are just gonna be like, you're bona fide, we're bringing back being real. Yeah. It's just, uh, you might as well say get her done. This is catchphrase level shit for him. It has no connection to reality. It is. I mean, it is never not like a fit. It is a physically painful thing for me. Whenever he says something that is the exact
Starting point is 00:43:20 opposite of true, you know, like he's willing to do it when he's wrong. Like that or just like, I'm not fake. Like when he just says I'm not fake, that's 180 degrees away from the truth. Like it is the literal opposite of the truth. I will give anything for just like a duck gree off, 179 degrees off. I'm mostly not fake. Like I'd be fine with that, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:41 But it's 180 is so infuriating. It is, but that's 180 is so infuriating. It is, but, but that's, that's how you do it. No, no. So we get down to these examples. Okay. And we start with Venezuela. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Gems, two months ago, will live sanctions of Venezuela, but only if Maduro stops the qualifying his political opponents. So the US lifted the sanctions in one week later, they arrested their political opposition. They didn't just ban them from running. US to ease sanctions of its way of oil for freer elections next year. That was in October. Boom. Then the arrest began after the sanctions were lifted. That's the Washington Post. Then its's way more opposition. Sign election deal, US way sanction relief. Game it to him. And then of course the communist.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Double cross, everybody. So the way that Alex is wording what he's saying is very telling. If you search for the exact words, he's not reading any kind of primary source. He's reading a tweet from a guy named Son of Hoss who was making a post trying to dunk on Democrats. Son of Hoss, yeah. Oh, that's a big voice in the truth. Intellectual dark sphere.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Sure. I mean, his name rings out. Yeah. That's the level of research and content you're going to get on in for wars. Alex defending his assertions by pointing at tweets random people posted. Alex isn't really right on the timeline of the stuff he's saying here either. That headline that he reads, quote, US to eSanctions on Venezuelan oil for free or presidential
Starting point is 00:45:09 elections is from a screenshot in the Sun of Haas tweet. And it wasn't like Maduro just started imprisoning opponents after that point in October. Amnesty International has documented cases of politically motivated arbitrary detentions going back to at least 2018. While it is true that Maduro is not necessarily kept up his end of the bargain made back in October, it's not an escalation of imprisoning political opponents that's the issue. It's more of the attempt to disqualify political opposition and try and force a win in the next election. That's usually an issue.
Starting point is 00:45:38 There's an important point that just kind of never gets brought up in conversations like this that Alex has, which is that similar actions can be good or bad depending on circumstances. For instance, in this case, he's presenting two cases where someone is being disqualified from seeking office, and it's just taken as established that these two cases are the same thing. Everyone is so mad when Maduro does it, but then the globalists turn around to do it here. But the reality is that these are not similar situations at all. Alex might have a point if it was Joe Biden forcing all the states to disqualify Trump,
Starting point is 00:46:09 but that's not what happened. A court making a legal determination about ballot qualification in their state is not the same thing as an authoritarian leader arbitrarily disqualifying opponents so they can hold onto power. Alex tries to equate the two because without doing so there isn't really a point here. Yeah. Also Biden just negotiated the release of a number of like US citizens who were being held in Venezuela. Interesting. So Alex is not, but I guess that probably happened. I think it was like last night there's news about that. So maybe as after Alex is on air. Yeah, you know, that is an interesting thing about the way that the systems are different in that term, you know, is like, when you think about
Starting point is 00:46:53 the Brazilian stuff, the Supreme Court being corrupt there and disqualifying Lula from the ballot and all of that stuff. Yeah. And the way that that worked out, being so close, if that makes sense, like the system is so close, the president and the Supreme Court and the guys, they're all hanging out together, doing the thing. Or in Venezuela, the president, hey guys, just get about it there.
Starting point is 00:47:21 He's gone, you know, be done with that. Whereas in the United States, it has to be laundered through so many different possible avenues of like, well, so many different breakpoints. And yet at the same time, there are still plenty of ways like through judge shopping, through going through a certain district,
Starting point is 00:47:41 to go through finding out little ways to navigate the system, where you do essentially get the same corrupt ruling, if that makes sense, as if you were close, you know? Mm, well, maybe, maybe not the same. Not the same, but if you navigate it well, which is the stories that we read now, you know, is like when the conservative legal activists navigate the system well, it really looks like all they did was walk up to somebody and say, change the law for me, please.
Starting point is 00:48:13 And then they did. Well, see, but this is, this is again what is exploitable. Exactly. People who don't, like, look very closely on things. That is a manipulation, I guess, of the system that we do have that does exist, which still involves, you know, maybe, like you're saying, judge shopping or venues. You gotta work for it.
Starting point is 00:48:36 But you're also using the legal channels, and these cases are being litigated in a way that maybe, you know, you're being strategic about, but it isn't the same thing as like authoritarian decree of sorts. They do look similar, especially in terms of what the outcome you're imagining, but they are not the same. Right. And theoretically, it's available to everyone. You know, that judge-shopping, that finding, that's not in theory, you know, it's just a fascinating system. It is. Yeah. It is. Yeah. What about Cambodia's system? Not sure about functional,
Starting point is 00:49:09 but fascinating definitely. Yeah. So I'm about Cambodia. Not great. I'm writing off the comparison, the analogousness of Venezuela to the United States. Sure, yeah. That's, yeah, please, please, quite different. Yeah. Circumstances. Very much. So now the next one Alex has is Cambodia. Okay. U.S. says Cambodia vote neither free nor fair because they banned the opposition candidates that were in the lead. Oh, Where have I heard of that before? So this one isn't from a tweet. So that's good. Okay. Cambodia isn't really a democracy that I would compare to this country. You see, as their prime minister, Hun Sen had been in office for 38 years and has now handed off power to his son. In the last election, political opposition parties were disqualified.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Again, this is the same example with the Venezuela one. There's an optical similarity between the situations in that someone was disqualified for running from office, but beyond that very shallow surface level appearance, the situations are not comparable at all. I have democratically elected your successor, my son. Exactly. Yeah. After almost 40 years of office. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:50:16 That's great. That's some good democracy going on right there. So here's the next example. U.S. Expans sanctions on Belarus and in regime marking the three year anniversary of the fraudulent august twenty twenty presidential election where they were strict and who can run against them now this one definitely doesn't make sense because alice loves balarouz and it said that their presidential dictator alis and elucas shenco
Starting point is 00:50:37 sounds like him when he gives speeches i was gonna say alix absolutely does not think that lucas shenco would repress his political enemies if anything they're repressing him again this is a dictator who's been in power since 1994. Literally their first elected leader after the fall of the Soviet Union. The situation is in no way comparable to the Colorado ruling. Yeah, but again, you have the appearance. Oh, man. I wonder, I wonder how it feels to be that kind of like, so it's 94, the Soviet Union's fallen.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And then you're the dictator of Belarus. What do you do? That's an interesting thing to me. Not, obviously, dictator, not great, not great. But if I'm waking up in the morning looking at my day of dictating, that's a lot of challenges. He's not done a great job since then.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Sure. But it would be interesting to see what a sim version of that life would be. If that makes sense. I bet there's a video game. There's so many games. The Lukashenko RPG would be an interesting game. You hear that? Yeah, get on a EA. Activision. Yeah, would be an interesting game. You hear that? Yeah, get on it.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Activision. Somebody, I don't know. So we have another example. And again, doesn't work. As in Bob Lee electioneers, the ruling party focuses on Western sanctions for banning the leading opposition. Just like Zelensky just did in Ukraine last year. First of all, Ukraine's currently being invaded.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I'm not going to fully back every decision Zelensky is made, but he banned political parties that were tied to Russia, the country that is invading them. Right. That is not similar to the Colorado ruling at all. Zimbabwe has been sanctioned by the US over election-related stuff going back to at least 2002. Their elections are definitely fraught with problems, and Robert Mugabe being in power for 30 years and then being succeeded by an ally of his certainly doesn't help. Another dictatorship situation. Now good. More to the point though, Alex has
Starting point is 00:52:33 said on air that the people of Zimbabwe would be better off under apartheid. So I'm not really sure he cares too much about electoral integrity there. I think this might be performance. Could be. Yeah. I think this might be a bad list. It would be an interesting system if after the Civil War, instead of anything, instead they were like, Jefferson Davis, how about you run legitimately to turn this into the Confederacy? I don't think that's good. I don't think you should just be able to run for the president
Starting point is 00:53:05 of taking over the country. And I think that would be a little bit similar to somebody from Russia trying to become the president of Ukraine. Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, I'm just trying to think of the invasion aspect as opposed to the from within thing. Sure, sure. But yeah, I don't know. I just, I'm bewildered by of the like, you know, the invasion aspect as opposed to the from within thing. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:53:26 But yeah, I don't know. I just, I'm bewildered by this list that Alex has. It's not, it does not working. No, that's crazy. But there's one more. Okay. U.S. sanctions, Guatemala, the Fizzles over, under the Democratic activity, banning the political opposition, heard of that before.
Starting point is 00:53:40 So the State Department until the last years, runs around sanctioning people when they do this, but now they go down and teach them how to do it. So Alex is lying about the issue with the election in Guatemala in order to make it sound more similar to his current gripe. In that case, the US was looking at sanctions because Bernardo Arravalo had won the presidency, but the country's attorney general was trying to find ways to stop him from taking office. Political opposition wasn't banned, the party currently empowers is trying to do what trump did after 2020 So all of Alex's examples don't really relate but man he feels it feels like he made his point like he feels that way
Starting point is 00:54:16 He feels very strongly that he did a good job He had his intern printout would ever headlines He could find that related to sanctions and election issues and then he rattled them off with no analysis whatsoever. And the point seems to be that up to a few years ago, the State Department would sanction these countries, but now they go teach them how to disqualify their opponents, presumably by example with the Colorado ruling. That theory would probably hit a bit harder, pretty much all of the headlines Alex is reading off about sanctions for these countries over election issues. Wasn't where they were all from the last few months. These are all current headlines.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Yeah. The Guatemala situation is still ongoing and our Velo isn't set to take off as until January 14th. The Venezuela situation involves sanctions that were eased in October. The Cambodia article is from July. This is what it looks like when someone tries to make a low effort, but high-intensity defense of something that he'd rather not get too in-depth about. It's all just very convoluted and amounts to nothing, but it kind of feels like he's making a point if you're listening passively. You don't really know what he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I would put it to you this. Mm-hmm. All right. Starting a democracy. Starting a republic. Starting a complicated form of representative government government you might need somebody to come in give you some assistance. Starting a dictatorship.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Very simple. True. Very simple. I don't think you should if you need help starting a dictator. I don't think you should be one. You may you may have failed the first test. Yes. First test is that you got to do it on your own, bud.
Starting point is 00:55:43 It, um, yeah. I was listening to that and it's, it strains the brain to even like really try and take the pieces of information and mold them into like, okay, this is the slam dunk. Alex thinks he's making. Yeah. It's just, so who's, no effort? Who is at the State Department? Who is job is it to go to places,
Starting point is 00:56:06 to teach them to disqualify opponents? Broom. Right? Do you get a, is there a degree for that? Yeah, probably. International relations. At least that's good. It's a sub-degree in that.
Starting point is 00:56:18 It's sabotaging international relations. Also, he's not a one. Is the goal that he thinks that someone should sanction us? Yeah, our sanctions good in the scenario or bad Well, he hates all of the regimes that are you know sure being sanctioned sure I mean, I mean, but the sanctions themselves are just a tool like it does he want no sanctions? It's unclear. They're hypocritical, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:46 If that's what you want. I, you know, I know that he's opposed to foreign aid and stuff like that. Right. But this is the opposite of that. It is the complete opposite of that. And so he might be for that. It is the, yeah, it doesn't get more opposite
Starting point is 00:57:00 than sanctioning people. Yeah, because I do think that he would have no problem with like sovereign countries imposing sanctions on other places in order to enforce, you know, their ideas about global issues. I guess. Like what else would you do? Yeah, I mean, I, I, it's,
Starting point is 00:57:20 I guess there's war. It is, it is the international relations form of a boycott, if you will, a little bit of a boycott campaign. Uh-huh, we're boycotting the existence of you. I'm just not sure what Alex wants in this situation, other than to appear that he's making a point. I don't get the angle, really. I mean, I think you are right in a lot of ways
Starting point is 00:57:46 in that like there's a certain amount of just keeping score here. You know, like, oh, I get this one. I get five points today, you know, for naming all of these. I read five headlines. Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, over while, like it's like try and make up with this deluge of things I'm yelling at you.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Yeah, it's very easy to if you just stop and take a second and be like, what is he talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and recognize it's not comparable in the least. That's why he's already 10 steps past you. Exactly. Yeah, these lies take a second to throw out and we talk for 10 minutes about the particulars. Oh, yeah. to throw out and you know we talk for 10 minutes about the particulars. So you know also the Europe, Europe's gonna be all bad. And it gets worse.
Starting point is 00:58:33 In France, in Poland, in Germany, they're banning free speech outright, any criticism of government, any criticism of war, they're shutting down opposition TV stations, the new Polish leader just did this. He wants full war with Russia. Europe on cusp of mass secret censorship. Starting to figure out how to callate the cabbage, ladies and gentlemen, Trump convicted of nothing. And this this group of lawyers, because they set up there as judges all day, and their little black outfits and still so powerful, like they're invincible. And now they just told America,
Starting point is 00:59:11 you can't vote for who you want. I think you and Alex might get along on that making fun of judges after. Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah, you might find common ground there. I blaze Bailey Finnegan, the third, my man. You think you're God just because you could send people up the river for 20 years. Well, you're not. Well, that is not critiquing wardrobe. No, no, no. I think you and Alex would both. VBF3 did.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Air on the side of, look at that road. I mean, come on. Let's all stop and really think it's 2023. Mm-hmm. They could just wear a button. True. Where in a robe is kind of stupid. Well, there are some countries that have wigs. See? They could just wear a button. True. Where in a robe is kind of stupid. Well, there are some countries that have wigs.
Starting point is 00:59:46 See? They could just wear a button too. So that headline about Europe being on the Cusp of Secret censorship is just a sub-stack post written by Michael Schellenberger, who I have little faith in. It's also a paid post. I can't really read it without subscription, but I found a little backdoor version of it. And it's just a sycophantic rambling about how Elon Musk shouldn't have to be bound by EU regulation in the way he runs Twitter.
Starting point is 01:00:08 That lines a little bit dramatic and in this op-ed it's not it's opinion, it's not news reporting. Oh, so it's the Twitter is allowing too much Nazi talk for the EU, right? Isn't that the... Not just that? Yeah, Broadway. Yeah. So as we're polling, the far right law and justice party isn't that's the not just that right yeah broadway yeah yeah yeah yeah so as
Starting point is 01:00:25 we're pulling the far right law and justice party just lost the most recent election the newly elected prime minister donald tusk made it part of his campaign to make changes to the tvp the state media broadcaster which had to effectively become an arm of the law and justice party hmm tusk clearly at the backing of the public and the resolution to make the outlet more neutral were past by parliament. So it's not like he's going about this like a dictator and making unilateral moves. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Alex shouldn't have a problem with this. Like he's talked constantly about how Trump should fire everyone in dismantled voice of America and take over public radio. Yeah. And incidentally, the person Trump put in charge of VOA, Michael Pact, tried to carry out purges of people who didn't agree with his politics within the network, and tried to violate the First Amendment rights of reporters and journalists by interfering with their work.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Trump's administration was doing exactly the thing Alex is complaining about being done in Poland, except that they didn't pursue appropriate legal channels, but that wasn't bad to Alex. This is because in Poland, the goal is to bring greater neutrality to a channel that's become a far right outlet. So no matter how it's being done, this is horrible evil censorship. Conversely, with Voice of America, Alex thinks that it's dirty, liberal, globalist propaganda. So attempts to destroy it, even using clearly illegal methods, are a good thing and definitely not censorship. Yeah. Easy out of this works. That's at the cow eighth cabbage. Yeah, it is hard to understate how much better everyone would feel if there was, if
Starting point is 01:01:53 Congress was just like, everybody in the far right media, you've got to take it down to notch. And I mean, and I'm not even talking about changing viewpoints or anything like that. I'm talking about everyone would feel better if they weren't screaming at us all the time. It's true. It doesn't matter if you agree with them. I guarantee you, you would feel a little bit better
Starting point is 01:02:12 if you were just a little bit calmer. Yeah. You know, if there was a magic switch to impose a regulation of calm down. Just like a little bit of a turn it down in the hutch man. Just turn it down a little bit. Yeah. Everybody feel better.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Mm-hmm. Yeah. So Alex gets to a little bit of a TV report about the Colorado ruling and he gets mad at the reporters. And I mean, it does the context even matter to Trump supporters because there have been. I mean, tonight's really was really lengthy explaining point by point why they believe he inside the insurrection. It was really lengthy. I've got the stupid thing right here. No convention, no proof. Him saying do not be violent. We're peacefully. And he had rallies all over the country were peaceful. That's his MO. The left burns everything now. It was really lengthy. Well, I can chain up 500 chimpanzees at typewriters and put them on meth and sediment and then they'll type you a million pages.
Starting point is 01:03:12 This is really lengthy. The judges, their opinion, not convicted of insurrection, not charged with insurrection. Not charged with insurrection. Charged with lying federally at the state level in DC and Georgia. No, we all saw the fraud too. It was there. And it's coming out everywhere. Trump was right. It was worse than he said. All right, that's enough. I'm not going to play anymore that idiot woman. These people are disgusting. Those very lengthy. Oh my gosh it was a hundred pages long. I mean wow I just the judges really explained
Starting point is 01:03:54 here. Come set let's march peacefully and have our voices heard we want a 10 day in the Constitution investigation of this and then before even finishes speech the feds set that old thing off, and we all know the rest history. Yeah, the fake history. So it's interesting that Alex is hinging so much of his response here on the fact that the report is long. It is, but that's because it's a detailed, and it's analysis, and it doesn't take lightly
Starting point is 01:04:20 the subject that's covering. It's not just random shit chimpanzees typed on a page. They fully justify why they affirm the lower court's determination that Trump engaged in an insurrection. They justify how the definition of insurrection fits the case, and then they walk through the various acts that Trump took that were essential elements of what happened that day. For instance, he singled out Mike Pence as someone who could refuse to certify the election, and when Pence didn't follow through, the rioters and the Capitol chanted about hanging him.
Starting point is 01:04:45 The standard that they applied was that to engage in the insurrection meant to act quote, overtly and voluntarily with the intent of aiding or furthering the insurrectionist common unlawful purpose. One very major point in this direction is that after the violence broke out, instead of taking any action to promote a resolution to the writing trump instead called on senators quote urging them to help delay the electoral count which is what the mob upon president trump's exhortations was also trying to achieve so their goals were aligned that seems tough to get around does seem difficult to stop but the fantasy version of jenny where you six this reality in aliex world so trying to argue the point
Starting point is 01:05:23 with someone like him is a fool's errand And it's it's pointless that that cement is dried in terms of like Alex and his his ilk. Yeah, that's Man that that little stretch there is sad that is I mean it is just like him being This is a lengthy report that goes line by line and detail like This is a lengthy report that goes line by line in detail, but it doesn't matter if it's long it doesn't matter what they say I'm done with this stupid woman. Oh sure they have all their reasoning for that. It's all gibberish. Don't go look at it We have the documents don't go look at those documents. You don't know Oh, yeah, yeah, they say we were trying to delay the certification. No, we wanted a 10-day delay For you to wait, exactly We were trying to delay the certification. No, we wanted a 10-day delay for the rest of the way. Hold on. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:05 All right. I'm not sure if that helps as much as you think. So we get to a little bit of Clarence Thomas talk. Sure. And the beleaguered and good friend. Unappreciated in his time, et cetera. It's that sure. Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Katanjee Brown is now being exposed for a husband taking massive money from companies that she directly is really on cases of. Clarence Thomas never did that. He flew on time and airplanes and my vacation was Prince totally late. Friends. But we all know how it works.
Starting point is 01:06:45 If you're a Democrat, you can engage in insider trading, anything you want. You can say burned down cities and bail out people that have shot folks like Kuala Harris, it is candidate for vice president. And they're coming at your clearance Thomas big time. And he should not accuse himself from these Trump cases. And it's good to see the heat going on. Katanji Brown, Jackson's slap with a silver plate of husband's income. Go after the Democrat justices. They're the ones that are corrupt.
Starting point is 01:07:18 On average, Democrats are 10 times more corrupt than Republicans. I it's true. And always have been possession's intent to the law's true. And I always have been. Possession's intense of the law. I mean, I don't care. So there's an ethics complaint filed that Kintanji Brown Jackson did not file disclosures of some of her husband's income, which came from him consulting on medical malpractice cases.
Starting point is 01:07:38 There's no indication of any wrongdoing on her part in terms of her hearing cases, but some folks have said that she should recuse herself if issues that relate to that kind of thing come up. Alex is greatly exaggerating this because it's not really about Jackson's possible corruption. This is just a smoke screen to try and excuse Clarence Thomas' very obvious and flagrant abuse of power. I mean, it's, it's comical. Come on. On a very basic level, Clarence Thomas' accepted gifts worth in the hundreds of thousands of dollars
Starting point is 01:08:03 from billionaire Harlan Crow, including luxury vacations and half million dollar gift to Thomas' wife's Tea Party group. That change has been going on for years, and the gifts were never disclosed. It also just came out that Thomas was in a ton of debt about 20 years ago and sought to get the salaries for Supreme Court Justices raised. According to the New Republic, quote, within months, Republican billionaires began giving him extravagant gifts. What?
Starting point is 01:08:29 He had previously, and privately lamented that if he didn't make more money as a judge, he might have to leave the bench. And presumably that scared the billionaires on the right who started promptly subsidizing his lifestyle. All the information hasn't even come to light yet. And even just from what we know,
Starting point is 01:08:44 this is a textbook case of brazen corruption. I mean, it's it is, I mean, I'm fine. How about this? All right. It's so brazen and so obvious that we should all be celebrating it in a way of like, I didn't even know you could do that. You're setting records. It's like, it's like we all laughed and and had a good time with George Santos, right? Clarence Thomas is George Santos times a million. But that's not funny because the power Supreme Court just yeah, the power is out of balance with the comical catch me if you can. Yeah, I'm going to lie about everything and I do not give a fuck. But also, if Alex wants to make a big deal out of this ethics complaint against Justice Jackson, that's fine I do think that you know
Starting point is 01:09:30 Conflicts of interest and stuff especially in a supreme court should be taken seriously and and looked at But it's embarrassing to use that as a launching pad to run cover for crimes. Tom's is very clear abuse of his position listen also cover for Clarence Thompson's very clear abuse of his position. Listen, also, Alex should probably be interested in the fact that Thomas and Harlan Crowe went to Bohemian Grove together a bunch, but I guess worshipping the devil and carrying out human sacrifices is only a problem when you want it to be. It's only a problem when the people I don't like are doing it. I mean, to even pretend that what the Supreme Court has to say matters is ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Do you think the Clarence Thomas might have been there when Alex broke into Bohemian Grove? He might have. He might have. He really might have. It's all dark. You can't see anybody. It really might have.
Starting point is 01:10:16 But I mean, you know, include Kavanaugh's credit card bills, include all of this shit. The Supreme Court is laughably corrupt. Yeah. And you want to know my conspiracy though? Okay. Do you know my best conspiracy? I'm listening. All right. Do you know who ruled? Remember remember Pizza Gate? Remember firing those guns into Into a common ping pong. Yeah, you know who ruled on that case judge Katanji Brown Jackson. Okay
Starting point is 01:10:43 She sent the Pizza Gate guide to jail for life. Do you know why? Because she was paid to cover up the truth. Right. And that's why she got onto the Supreme Court. And you know who paid her? Done. Wayfarer.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Exactly. Or is it that's he now that she's here? No, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a new one. The new trafficker of some of note. Oh, God. Yeah. It's annoying. Yeah. So I look to get into a meeting this rant and then remember something mid rant that's pretty funny. Okay. All they keep doing is doubling now. So you don't need to be a rocket scientist. Iic said it. Oh, I dropped the ball. I forgot to tell the crew Roger Stone's supposed to be on right now. I dropped the ball. Are you mad?
Starting point is 01:11:32 Jeez, my fault. I get so busy so much goes on. I sent him up myself. Oh my God. Let me just call Roger right now. I talked to him last night. He's calling right now. We need to hear from Roger Stone right now. We do. We need to hear from Roger Stone right now. Yes, Alex has set up an interview with Roger. Forget it. Let me buddy. I also forgot that it was happening. So on air, he remembers, oh, shit. I'm supposed to talk to Roger right now. Ah, man. That is like one of the protections that I think unions should really coalesce around, which is in situations like this, someone from the crew should be allowed to scream at Alex. That they're not. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I'm never coming back. Yeah, fair, fair turn about, you know, that's it. So Alex calls Roger on his cell phone and to, I mean, very wisely says, I have you on air. Yeah, go call immediately as soon as possible. Yeah. And then they sort, they sort this out. Hey, my bro, I got the dick. Oh, right now, I dropped the ball didn't tell me you're wrong. Can we, uh, can we dial into you right now? Yeah, you mean three seconds. Did you forget to? No, I actually just had a conference call ran over.
Starting point is 01:12:51 So let me go on. Oh, so perfect. Well, you want to wait till the start of the next hour? You want to go now? With the start of the next hour. 15 minutes for no sure. Yeah. This on air talk.
Starting point is 01:13:01 All right. We'll do 30 minutes next hour. The verdicts come on. All right. Perfect. Thanks, we'll do 30 minutes next hour at a verdict. Come on. Alright, perfect. Alright, thanks. Bye. Oh my God. Oh, that worked. He forgot to do things. Alright, we're all busy. Okay. Um, that was about Roger. Wait, we need Roger on. And he has talked to the big guy leaving a tat. The big guy big guy. I grew up late last night. I'd say, yeah, what is that?
Starting point is 01:13:26 All the global spheres are coming through because I didn't use to advise Trump, Emily. They just thought, well, this is a color. They do. Character should take stuff on the line. It's done to make Trump look mad. So they blew me up. And I was already huge with conservative stuff. I mean, hell, the RNC in 2016, a third of the hundred thousand people there were wearing
Starting point is 01:13:48 my t-shirts and you go out there just t-shirts everywhere. On the left finally went and their arrogance kind of deflated, which was a bad thing. We love them being arrogant and blind. The fact that we're taking the country back peacefully and intellectually, politically, financially, spiritually. And they're like, we'll say he's Trump's brain. And it became a self-fulfilling prophecy. And I'm not going to, it's not really even me and Roger and Trump.
Starting point is 01:14:17 But the main advisors to Trump, listen every day, and a lot of my analysis in my game plan gets put in there. It's beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful. And of course, you never even hear in the news who his main advisors are. They don't even know. They don't even know. They don't even know. We're kin steps ahead of them. So Alex advises the secret advisors of Trump, which is great. Did Alex advise him on the poisoning or blood thing? I mean, that actually, yeah, that one does might have been an Alex original. Do you ever tell yourself a story about yourself?
Starting point is 01:15:03 No. I have never done that once. I was, I was, I was a child. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of, yeah. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was a child. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of, yeah, I was, I was, I was thinking, I'm listening to this just going like, what would I, like, how could I describe my day in this, in this kind of, in this kind of fairy tale format? Like, okay, so I woke up and that, but I can't even think of telling a story
Starting point is 01:15:23 about myself like this. No, it's bizarre. It's bizarre Also, he's not true and he knows it of course not. Oh, is this real? It's for the audience. I need to know that Alex is super important. Look Like I am I'm not so old sure or so young However, we go that I don't remember when Alex said that he had like a telepathic link with Trump. I do recall that happening. I do recall that happening. They talk about me all the time in the White House. They call me the Texan. Yep. Trump is always like, what's the Texan saying? What's the Texan think?
Starting point is 01:15:57 There's a new update on how back in the past it wasn't really happening, but now it totally is. Totally. Pretty regularly. Yeah, it does seem like that's a soft reboot that happens from time to time. Yeah. So Alex has some reasonably offensive things to say in this next clip.
Starting point is 01:16:14 But then I think his conclusion I kind of agree with towards the end. Interesting. It is Kuku for Coco Pops what you're doing. And we're thinking 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12 moves out. And not just linear, we've got major dialectic scans. We don't need AI to do it. We've got the advanced intelligence, not the artificial intelligence, to algorithm it with the logistics we've got. And they know their autistics. Oh, boy. That's to guess. You're blessed. And we are making current with my analysis.
Starting point is 01:16:46 And so I've bound cars. And I'm basically autistic in a way. I mean, it's really got advanced knowledge. You just, you know, you don't, it's not magic. And the brain knows it. Oh boy. And you compute it down. It's a Luke Skywalker blows up the Death Star
Starting point is 01:16:59 without the computer, folks. And that's what we're doing here. So I don't say that to brag. It's just become a giant self-fulfilling prophecy because they said I was Trump's brain and I, I mean, we were like 10% of what he was doing and like 30% of his talking points. But they're right. The new Trump presidency will be the people's presidency. It'll be the Alex Jones presidency. So We know your next moves ahead of you to snow that you may have the quote power, but not for long. Come back I mean look I do think that Alex is right that a next Trump presidency if that should come to pass
Starting point is 01:17:40 Will essentially be an infowars presidency. Yes. That's not to say that Alex will be advising the secret advisors or anything like that. No. But the entire status of the right wing, the GOP as a whole is beholden to ideas that are like un-distinguishable from everything that's on Info Wars. So you basically do have what you would call an Alex Jones presidency. Right. He's not the president. He's not actually guiding things.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Right. But his ideology may as well be what is in power. And that's, you know, it's a terrifying prospect, but it is something that is in the cards. The only difference is that Trump is going after Trump's enemies, not Alex's enemies. Right. And if Alex were president, he would be going after Alex's enemies, not Alex's enemies. Right. And if Alex were president, he would be going after Alex's enemies and not Trump's enemies. And there may be heavy overlap. Well, of course. And I think that Trump would be
Starting point is 01:18:34 willing to go after some of, you know, the right wing media's favorite enemies in order to maintain the base. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whether or not he particularly cares about a certain thing or not. Past a certain point It stops being about the enemies and starts being about the going after that's the fun part. Is he has he Shit on the vaccine. See yet. I don't know. He's still a good question. I don't know what's next. I mean, I assume Nazism But not sure what that's gonna play out like in 2024 So Alex has Roger is gonna come on. Sure but not sure what that's gonna play out like in 2024. So Alex has Roger is gonna come on. Sure.
Starting point is 01:19:09 We're not gonna phone call on air. We're not gonna listen to any of the fake appearance because it is just basically basking in the him saying that he's not going to be in Colorado. How cool am I for taking a stay? Right. And then Alex also being like, Hey, you know, if they kill Trump, we might need you.
Starting point is 01:19:26 That kind of thing. Yeah. I like, I like a really good basking in the valor of no stakes whatsoever. Yeah. The zero of stakes that Vivek is dealing with is kind of astonishing. Pretty sweet. Yeah. So in order to kill time before Roger gets there, Alex just is vamping, just talking, just
Starting point is 01:19:46 talking. I mean, I'm scared doing the wrong, I want to be good because it feels good to be good. It gets me closer. I got to feel myself at a degree and closer to God. The more honest I am, the more courage I have, the stronger I am, the more focused I am, the harder working I am, the more I sacrifice, I just get happier. I get smarter. And any time I tell a lie, and I still do it sometimes, not on air. I do not. Sometimes, but we all lie.
Starting point is 01:20:19 I do it very rarely now. And when I do, I feel like I've been brought down a couple of levels. What was it like? Oh, wow. That, that's not wow. Did you mean to tell that lie? Is so much better when you're on a sec say you really like that woman. Think she's hot. I'm like, yeah, I mean, God, God made PMM's I'm attracted to women.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I'm, you know, I'm, you're super attractive. Way more attractive. But I mean, I'm, you know, it's about it's that, oh, no, I don't think she's attractive at all. You know, I'm like, yes, she's, she's hot at all. You know, I'm like, yeah, she's hot. Sorry
Starting point is 01:20:49 Welcome just stop lying folks. It's much easier. Okay, I mean it's just weird. I don't believe I like I don't think Okay, let me put it this way. Mm-hmm. I think I don't believe in zoo. I think zoos are wrong. Sure, right? Like I truly but so so it's it's weird, but if I were an alien I think I don't believe in zoo. I think zoos are wrong. Sure. Right. I truly, so it's weird, but if I were an alien, I would want Alex and a zoo. I would like- His show is kind of a cage. It is.
Starting point is 01:21:14 It is like. It is in and has to display these weird behaviors, especially when he forgets to book his gas. Totally. And he has to fill this time. Everything about it is zoo worthy. Yeah. It he has to fill this time. Everything about it is, is zoo worthy. Yeah. It just needs to be in a zoo, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:30 where it can't hurt anybody. So if your wife asks you if someone's hot, don't lie. I don't even know what that means. I don't either. I don't either. Also, basically Alex is laying out like a Twix commercial Chew it over with Tix you I've asked you is it open huh?
Starting point is 01:21:50 And then and then the idea well listen I don't lie because it's just it just lowers my energy level You I mean so so that's what brain force is is like oh after I lie I take a brain force to get back up to no I It allows you to lie. It's a little bit like if Pinocchio just kept like a little razor blade and just chopped it off after every lie.
Starting point is 01:22:11 It's like, ha, ha, I fixed your dumb system, evil god or whatever. That would be a good ad. That would be a fixture system evil god or whatever. And this allows me to feel good when I lie. Pop, pop. Oh, that would be a good ad for, uh, for something. Pinocchio. Pinocchio chopping his lie nose off every time he lies and like get away with it. I feel like it might be
Starting point is 01:22:33 two on the nose for Alex. Nice. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, man, uh, welcome back to the zoo. I'm getting older to get more numb to so much contact, so much energy. It's scarred. You've learned to shut things down. That's the problem. You don't feel pain. It's easy to compartmentalize things, the bad things that happen to be tough, but I learned to really just sit down and take in the pain. I was doing that at work, but 5 a.m. this morning, and I was really upset about some things in my family and lost some things like that. So I just, I got a cup of coffee and I sat the chair in the dark, and I just said, I want all the pain. I just, I got a cup of coffee and I sat in the chair of the dark
Starting point is 01:23:05 and I just said, I want all the pain. I just want to feel this pain right now. Yeah, it positive real quick. Alex seems to sit in the dark in a chair a lot. A lot of that. It seems to be something he does a bit, which is worry. Man of the calli, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:17 It's worrying. I'm going to just absorb it. I just said that it was horrible. It's horrible. It's horrible. But I externalized it. I took it into the consciousness. Sure.
Starting point is 01:23:30 From the subconscious. Is that the sound you make? And it was like having my heart ripped out. When I did that, it wiped it clean. I got through it in the garbage. But I had to fully say I want to feel every ounce of pain and every ounce of regret and every ounce of how some of it was my fault. And God, I'm sorry. Please help me be better.
Starting point is 01:24:02 I'm so sorry for things I didn't the past when I didn't understand. Please heal me. Please help me be better. I'm so sorry for things I did in the past when I didn't understand. Please heal me. Please help me. Please. And that's what a man is supposed to do. Wow. Don't run away from your problems. That's what a man hide from the truth. Don't hide from the pain. Embrace the pain. It's not that I don't mind the pain. I love the pain. Sure. Because the pain is the truth. The hurt is the truth.
Starting point is 01:24:44 And getting the hunger for God is the truth The hurt And realizing my hair is all gonna fall out my teeth are gonna fall out And I'm gonna be brought low because I'm not God But I was made by God And I'm experiencing God's plan. I am Turning loose the leaf from the stream in God's. And then God directs you through that river through that stream through that brook Where's supposed to go and then the real adventure begins? I always tell the crew I Want to know the worst. I don't want stuff hidden from me. Give it to me because I can't defend
Starting point is 01:25:29 innocence and freedom without really knowing how bad it is. I'm going to go to break. I want to thank you all for keeping us on air. You've been amazing. Plus, we got products you really need. Wow. Wow. Shipping is still going double. Wow. It's time before it's to our energy. Everything about it. The pain is the zoo. That is that is a. He's got needs to be under operation. It's just I would also I would also suggest that maybe his system isn't working of sitting
Starting point is 01:25:57 in the dark and demanding to feel all the pain so it goes away because he seems to be talking about things that he's already done that about in the past and the pain seems to still be there. Yeah. Still lingering and still he claims that he's externalized this and all the pain goes away. But clearly isn't working. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Yeah. It is interesting to hear a man lie about the things he's not doing and still I think I mean I well for sure that and still Like not understand that he's failing at that, you know, well, I would I would I would still not learn from it I would love to pick the brain of somebody who You know somebody who listen to that and is like, fuck, that's profound. The pain is the truth. I just love to what is it like to be affected by something like that?
Starting point is 01:26:55 Yeah. So some hollow nonsense rambling self masturbatory speech. Yeah. Yeah. It is, it is. a self-masterpertory speech. Yeah, yeah, it is, what would it be like to, to watch somebody like just over and over and over again, try and give themselves a, like, and like I, right before the big game speech.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Mm-hmm. So often in the same way that like if you were to word too much it mysteriously usually ends in sales pitch. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah. But in the same way that if you repeat a word too much it suddenly loses meaning like all the sudden after like six hours of inspiring pre the big game speeches it turns into like the bees are coming from right behind your butt and that's where the sky is going to be inside your hair. You know, like, yeah, you can go crazy.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Yeah, the pain is the truth. There is, there, yeah, there is that, like, oh, you lose, like if you listen to a ton of them, you'd lose track of like, like, what? Wait, but at the same time, you should have that experience listen to one if you're paying attention. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Anyway, he's killed enough time in Roger Stone shows up. Right. Yeah, one clip here of Roger from the old Stone zone. Yeah, I think Alex wanted a little bit more worry from Roger, but he doesn't really, he doesn't really care. He thinks the Supreme Court's going to overturn that. Yeah. Well, yeah. And so, uh, but he also thinks some things may happen after. Hmm. This effort in Colorado will fall short as well. I predict that the Supreme Court will reverse this decision.
Starting point is 01:28:32 And then once that is done, this gambit, which is largely the brainchild of norm, isin, and the people at crew will be over. This will be a failed gambit. What's next? Could we have another pandemic? Most definitely. Could will be a failed game bit. What's next? Could we have another pandemic?
Starting point is 01:28:45 Most definitely. Could there be a terrorist attack on American interests on our own soil? Given how many millions of illegals we have allowed into the country and our inability to track who they are and where they are, that's entirely possible. Will it be real? Will it be a false flag? No, I suspect there'll be no way to know, but to the last of years, of course, is it? Not even after the fact. People rally around a wartime president.
Starting point is 01:29:13 People rally around the president at a time that the country is- I was about to back to you up there. Biden said two weeks ago, if you don't give his honor and six million for your crane, your sons and adults will be dying within months, then Lloyd Austin said it, and the Secretary of State said it, the members
Starting point is 01:29:28 of the House and Senate, both bipartisan said it. So they're holding a threat of direct war with Russia in our head if we don't do what everybody says. I mean, that right there is so reckless. Does it, the establishment, see their own actions of the threat? Don't they see that they can just back off and stop this? No, that's true. But this really is sort of an encapsulation of the way that Alex wanted to talk about the ruling, which is what's next, what are the globalists going to do? And of course, this leads into the conversations about false flags and all this because on a basic level, Alex understands that this is probably one of the most potent potential
Starting point is 01:30:16 triggers of domestic terrorism that we've seen in this election season and the surrounding time. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The notion of Trump being barred from a ballot is something that would prompt violence from the extreme right way. Well, I mean, yeah, he knows the possibility for that is high. That's the, that's probably going to be the most interesting thing for me is eventually this gets to the Supreme Court. All that matters is that Trump can't be on enough to be president blank.
Starting point is 01:30:48 You know, it doesn't matter if he's not on the everybody's ballot. It just matters if there's enough. But the odds of that happening are almost none. Right. Not mill. So what happens when it gets to the Supreme Court is going to be a billionaire's deciding who the next president is going to be a billionaire's deciding who the next president is going to be. And so the idea of the Supreme Court disallowing Trump from the ballot is like chaos inducing
Starting point is 01:31:16 in a way that I don't know if anybody's prepared to deal with, right? Because it's not the Democrats who got him off, who got him out of the ballot. If the, whatever the Supreme Court does is the de facto will of the oligarchs in this country, right? That is an interpretation you can have and I will not begrudge you for it. Right. I think they, so if they disallow Trump, then that's a whole different ballgame, right? Well, there are assumptions that you could make based on that decision, which I'm not sure how concrete you should take them. Sure.
Starting point is 01:31:50 And I'm not, I don't know, I'm out of my pay grade trying to make those kinds of assumptions. But I do think they just from a logistical standpoint, the vast percentage gamble is that they're going to overturn it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is what seems to be like, if not, I'll be shocked. Right. But because they do uphold it, then first of all, Trump's chances of becoming president, I don't think are that affected. Yeah. Even Roger is like, I don't think Colorado is a state that I'm relying on. No. For my calculus of the path to the presidency. So like it's, in less, it spreads to all sorts of states that Trump would need to win, which is incredibly unlikely. It doesn't really have an
Starting point is 01:32:36 effect on Trump becoming president, but it has the feeling of limiting Trump's ability to become president. Right. And that will leave people in a state, particularly a lot of the people who, you know, who are all excited about the stop the steels, stuff, they will be, they feel like they will be left with no legitimate avenue left in order to change the things that they feel need to be changed. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:01 And I don't see a way that that doesn't lead to a very, well, it's not a guarantee of some sort of a like bombing or whatever. I think the odds of that, the danger of that greatly increases. And I think Alex understands that. And I think that part of the discussion of like what's going to happen next, what are the globalists going to do next? Sure. Is that preemptive damage control, creating a narrative in advance, should there be some active right wing terrorism in order to have that there and be like, oh, I said that this was going to happen, it's all fake. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Right. Yes. If Trump is not allowed on the ballot at OKC happens, that's because of the globalist false flags. That's the idea. Yeah. We're building that in advance. Right. What is interesting to me about that, though, is that this is going to come up to the Supreme Court, though, you know?
Starting point is 01:33:54 Right. Like whatever decision the Supreme Court hands down is in no way related to the left, the Democrats, the center, the anything. That is purely the oligarch's choice. So I'm fascinated as to how that would be reacted to. Would you bomb shit if you know that your guys said Trump is not going to be president? Well, you mean the me, the right wing media and folks like Alex would never let that perception be the story line. Sure, they would have to.
Starting point is 01:34:27 They would have to scramble with like these patriotic heroes have decided the blah, blah, blah, blah. Or they'd have to try and sell. Or they're all blackmailed or something like that. Or they're all, and that's the end, right? If everybody decides, if it's more than just me, that decides the Supreme Court is a joke, then the whole system falls apart.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Yeah, I do think that your conclusion, that if it's upheld, it is directly the result just of oligarchs deciding that it should be. I'm not saying you're crazy for thinking that. Sure. I'm just saying that I don't think that that is a conclusion you can concretely reach. Right.
Starting point is 01:35:10 I think that it is an option. Sure. Although I do think another option is that the Supreme Court just is like, fuck, the implications of overturning this in terms of our, you know, state's rights positions. Sure. Our interpretations previously of the Constitution can't allow us to overturn this. I think that that is a possibility too. I think it's slim, but I think it's a possibility.
Starting point is 01:35:35 If I would say, if I was going to argue either of those positions, the weaker one would be they care about precedent. Sure. That's fine. But I'm just saying that like arriving at the conclusion automatically, possibly a little hasty, but also understandable. Yeah. But either way, I think it's interesting to see what'll play out because like, in me, even like the Colorado state, uh, court said was like, this is uncharted water. It's going to go on. Yeah. And I think the people's responses to it are also going to be fairly uncharted. And it'll be interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:12 And that's why you see Alex doing preemptive damage control, which is smart. Yeah. And you know, it's a bananza for, you know, attention shit. That's why you see Vivek acting the way he is. And, you know, I think that Alex also makes something a point that is probably accurate and that like, this is going to help Trump. Probably.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Like, ultimately, you know, the notion that consequences exist and they are a function of virtue is I think pretty heavily adopted by the right wing. So like any kind of punishment that someone receives is only proof that they're dangerous to the system or something. Right, right. And that mentality is bad but growing.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Yeah, yeah. Anyway, brutal. Yeah, sucks we had to stay in the present, but hey, here we are. I really feel like everybody should take 2024 off and just like wake up next year because what the people who care about media and the com the quote unquote conversation are going to do over the next year. It's going to be brutal.
Starting point is 01:37:23 It's going to be disgustingly brutal. Let's all rip fanwinkle this shit. Totally. Let's just take a nap. When we wake up, we'll look back at everybody's arguments and be like, hey, we could have gotten involved with that. But then we didn't. And now our lives are fine.
Starting point is 01:37:37 I mean, I, you know, it sucks because the stakes are so high. Right, right, right, but I just, hmm, well, we'll wake you up in a year. Yeah. Anyway, we'll be back, but until then, we have a website. Indeed, we do, it's notletrike.com. Yeah, we're also, I think I'm gonna start transitioning off Twitter.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Let's do the blue sky. I think I may actually, I've been sitting I've been sitting on the blue sky, yeah, but I think I might actually make that've been sitting on the blue sky, but I think I might actually make that profile. Let's do it. We'll see. I don't want to say officially yet because I'm bad social media and I don't really care about that stuff anyway.
Starting point is 01:38:16 But maybe we'll do that. I will see. Anyway, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo, I'm Leo, DZX Carcs. D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-

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