Knowledge Fight - #882: April 1, 2004

Episode Date: December 29, 2023

In this installment, Dan and Jordan wrap up 2023 by sticking around in the past just a little longer.  Tune in to hear about the thrilling textbook conspiracy uncovered by the Idaho County Farm Bureau, and an assassination plot found on a Starbucks napkin.

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Oh, indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you. What's up? It's your bright spot today, but I go first my bright spot is what had happened was With open my giggle again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's only one more episode left in the season And it was supposed the last one was supposed to be this week The finale and they're talking things fall apart. Sure, you know, and this is the bed This is when Questlove stories are the absolute best because they're doing things fall apart They're doing voodoo with the angelo. They got Eric Abadu running around right they've got God you know he's doing the Philly sessions at this, and they're telling all these great rock and roll stories, the classics, you know, like,

oh, some were playing, and then who drops in? This guy, what, you can't believe it! Who's this? Oh, they call someone, and it's like, oh, there's this nine-year-old with a voice like a man, and they're like, what are you talking about? It's Jasmine's tell, but what? Oh my God!

And it is such the best like rocket roll type stories. Who should walk in but fall in the car? Exactly! It is nonstop. You know who that guy turned out to be? Jesus Christ. Whoa! It's just the best. That's it. That does sound fun. It's just so fun.

As it's coming towards its end, I'll probably catch it. Because like I said, I need to bend stuff like that. Yeah. I refuse to wait. It's so great. It's so difficult, just even like on a much less quality angle. It's awful waiting a week to watch the challenge. Oh, man.

This week's debatably whether or not I'm enjoying it. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. No, this week cliffhanger was murder. Was murder. I'm not sure I know what you're talking about. I mean, no, no, I that this week cliffhanger is was murder was murder. I'm not sure I know what you're talking about I mean no, no, no, not on the challenge Because there's one more episode left and it was supposed to be yeah, we thought it was gonna be done Yeah, what cliffhanger is on the channel. It's very resolved. I haven't seen everything. Yeah. I haven't seen the newest one yet

I have some things to say so I'll talk to you later. All right. Sounds good. What's your bright spot? So I guess my bright spot, coming to the end of the year, this is the last episode of our show for the year. Sure. For 2023.

2023. And I mean, it's just the audience is bright spot. Yeah.'re great. Just so great. I know I mean to pander or, you know, we've said this many times. Sure. It bears repeating.

We do not deserve the kind of audience, the supportiveness that people have, the appreciation of others. And I mean, look back on this year, it's been pretty shit on a appreciation of others. I mean, look back on this year, it's been pretty shit on a lot of fronts. Whether it's from a news perspective, whether it's from a world perspective or my mental health, certainly in the last month

and a half or so. But looking back on this year, there's something that will just stick out to me so much is how much the audience rallied around Erica Lafferty and she's on her show. And that just means so much to me that we have an audience that cares enough to show up for people in a way that I'm blown away by.

So thank you all for being so awesome and making some bright things in a year that kind of sucks and give some hope that there will be bright things even in next year, which will definitely suck. Oh boy, yeah. Given the state of affairs and the fact there's an election coming, it's not going to be good. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it is a little bit like the one nice thing for us in terms of being surrounded by this horror is that oftentimes horror allows people to be their best selves and wow, people are doing that around us. That's nice. Yeah, and for each other and it's all just great. Yep. nice. Yeah. And for each other and you know it's all just great. Yep. So also Jordan thank you for the episode on Wednesday. Oh sure. Wonderful interview with Brandy. Brandy is great. Yeah. A lot of fun. So cool. And I you know it's great. It's always nice to see you spread your wings. It's all these nice. Lightly condescended to afterwards. I think what I'm trying to express is that I've gotten some feedback from folks that are concerned that you're doing these episodes because I can't do something. Oh, absolutely not.

Oh, like I'm covering for your broken leg. Right, right. I don't want people to have that perspective. I mean, we did joke about how like, in the preparation for the tour. Sure, sure. It was helpful to have episodes that you did, these interviews to fill in some of the space.

Sure, yeah. But a large part of it is you enjoy doing these things. There are topics that we can cover in a different way than covering things with Alex. And it's nice to expand the base of the stuff that we do. Yeah, totally. I mean, we can be all kinds of stuff. Yeah, and I'm not good at interviewing people,

so it's better for you to do that alone. Sometimes that could be the case, yes. Yeah, I'm bewildered by humans. Sometimes that could be the case, yes. Very much. So anyway, we have an episode to go over today, George. Yes. And last episode of the year figure what the fuck I'm staying in the past. Hey, so we're gonna be talking about April Fools day April 1st, 2004

Nothing quite like a New Year's Eve April Fools day episode sure and it is not April Fools no around info It is never April Fools. They are very serious Right, and this is going to be a very serious episode. Right, of course But before you're done business on this let's say hello to some new ones. Oh, that's great idea. So first Broke Alex Jones is Bill Hicks and disguise conspiracy theories. Whoa. Alex Jones is man cow in disguise Conspiracy theories. Thank you so much. You're an eye out policy. I'm a conspiracy theories. Thank you so much. You're now policy won't I'm a policy won Thank you very much. Uh cheers and cheers Replace by broken woke. Yes. Uh next neither Carly nor I know how big our bed

Beds are necessitating an embarrassing trip back to IKEA to return not one but two bed frames Thank you so much you're now policy won't I'm a policy won't thank you very much Jordan would not go with me to IKEA We don't want to get different people say he's a good friend. You don't want to get good Ikea with we want to stay together Next Tom and Tokyo will karate chop Alex in the neck that minute he gets off the plane. Thank you so much You're now policy walk. I'm a policy won't thank you very much. I forgot about that. Yeah, but I think it was in China about that. Yeah, but I think it was in China. I think this remember it was. Yeah. Next, phonetic pronunciation and parentheses, C. Jean, the listener who got three of us to listen and tell people also, he's put in a lot of work

spreading the show across the Twin Cities where we're big fans here. I wanted to thank him for showing me you guys. Thank you so much, you're an hour policy won't I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you big ups. Next, knowledge values my ADHD hyperfixation. So keep those extra long episodes coming. Thank you so much, knowledge fight is my ADHD hyperfixation so keep those extra long episodes coming Thank you so much you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk Thank you very much and we got a technic right to the mix Jordan So thank you so much to it took me an exceedingly long time to realize that the name knowledge fight is a play on info wars

Thank you so much you are now technic right I'm a policy wonk What's the long he and my mentality is brilliant someone someone Don't hump your mind and tell it you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a book in a poop. Daddy Shark. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser, little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you very much. We should do get that from time to time that people don't get that. And I think that's a testament to how bad we are. Ah! He's... Bad marketing. Self-promotion and branding. You do get that from time to time that people don't get that and I think that's a testament how bad we are Self promotion and branding at the whole thing one key fucking name that only maybe half of the audience Initially understands as a play on and for war. Yeah, it didn't occur to me that it would be good for people to know that

Yeah, I was always like wow knowledge, that just seems like a nice name. Yeah, and I think that that is how people experience it, isn't it? Well, it's just a name. It's just a name. Yeah. Oh, we're great at this. So we are here on April 1st, April showers, gonna bring May flowers.

Sure. Alex had just interviewed Aaron Russo on the last episode, which we discussed on our last episode and now it is April Fools day. Yeah, and like I said, no fucking around. No, it infowers. Bet Middler finally on infowers. The gloves are off. No, oh, is that what's happening?

Okay, it's very serious. All right. All right, my friends. It is Thursday already. Alright. All right, my friends, it is Thursday already. The first day of April 2004, and no, we're not going to have any April fools on this show. It's a too serious to joke and horse around. We're talking about real issues that affect you and your family and your generations to

come. And we're going to have wide open phones today. I'm proud of myself, yes. I just find the fact that I had a guest on to talk about 50 calls in the three hours yesterday. A lot of those in the third hour. And I'm gonna do it again today. Absolutely not.

Absolutely not. I was gonna say there's no way you took 50 calls. No. Not even close. No, no more like's no way you took 50 calls. No, not even close. No, no more like upwards. Yeah. 20. Okay.

And that's me being quite generous. Sure, sure. But no, he absolutely did not take 50 calls. But I think that there is, I mean, first of all, Alex isn't great with numbers. No, that's true. But then second, I think that this is how he experiences it. This is how he builds himself up.

Like I took 50 fucking calls yesterday. Right, right, right. Which really calls into question all the times that he's like, I've been on thousands of interviews with these radio shows and 90% of the people that call in love me. Right, right, right. Those numbers may be a little bit off.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was on two shows and one guy said I was cool. I've had some situations in the past where, you know, if you've ever been working with somebody who like the next day, they're like, Oh, man, yesterday I put in like so long and then it's like empirically I can go back and look at what you did. Yeah. Please do not say those words at me and we can check when clocked in and out at work. And you were there for half an hour.

There is science involved, sir. You cannot lie to me. Yeah. So I'm like, besides, fucking, I did 50 sir. You cannot lie to me. Yeah, so Alex decides Fuck it. I did 50 yesterday. I'm gonna up the stakes hell. Yeah We're gonna give each caller about a minute maybe a minute and a half They're making a really good point and then I'm gonna make a quick comment and move on I Want to take I think of a good number. I want to talk about 70 phone calls today on the show

There's a lot of people I don't know Try to call when because once we load the phones up they stay loaded I once we give the numbers out and then a lot of people can never get in and I don't like that So when you hear somebody hang up, that's your cue to try to get in. I don't know about the phone lines But something around here certainly stays loaded 70 calls that's a lot. Yeah, three hour show. You got to consider all the commercial breaks.

Yeah. He would be non-stop. 70 calls would be. Okay. Here's my pitch for you. Yeah. All right. I think you can take 70 calls, but the topic is,

let me think of a good number. All right. So you call in and you're like, what's a good number? Seven. That's a pretty good number. Great number. Next call. I think you'd even, I mean, if you,

if you just like machine gun through them, then maybe you could do that. But because like, let's think about it, you know, there's 60 minutes an hour. Yeah. So you add 10 minutes to the hour. Sure. And now you got 70. Okay, so in an hour, there's one call per hour. Yeah. So you add 10 minutes to the hour. Sure. And now you got 70.

Okay, so in an hour, there's one call per minute. One call per minute. Yeah, three hours. Sure. So now it's 180. Well, the add 10 minutes each hour. Sure. Now you got three minutes per call.

Right. With 10 extra minutes, add it to the hour. And you're not counting commercials. I'd say, yeah, that's not gonna happen. I have warped space and time and this is unrealistic. That's not gonna happen. No, it's gonna be tough. You want to know how many calls he takes?

I want to get guess. Actually, I want you to tell me, what's a good number? 18. Is 18 the number? Yeah, which is not, not nothing. It's not a bad number. It's not nothing. I hate that that's my reaction.

Not a bad number. It is well below 70. True. And if he thinks he took 50 the day before, this is a precipitous drop from there. That's my reactions that not about no is well below 70 true and if he thinks he took 50 the day before this is a Percipetist drop from there. That's significant. Who so Alex he's like we can talk about anything open calls new collars old collars Share anybody anything you want who gives a shit. Yeah, but also here's a topic. I kind of want to talk about Give you an idea of a topic here. It's pretty important. I want to get your take on it want to talk about. We give you an idea of a topic here that's pretty important.

I want to get your take on it. They're trying to equate these dead soldiers and these dead Americans hung up on this bridge to what happened in Somalia with the whole situation in 93 when Clinton wouldn't give the troops the support. And I think it's horrible what happened for the people over there. I think it's even worse in the aggregate that our troops are breathing to put a uranium at what is it? 1,000 plus times the safe levels.

And then that's the Army Zone top side that you were designed in years ago and went forward with all of this Doctor Rookie. It's a lot worse that our troops have to buy their own body arm. So I get what Alex is saying and I agree with him that it's horrifying to see people's bodies desecrated after they're killed in war but he doesn't have his facts straight. So just a little bit of background on this. This was a situation where some blackwater mercenary types were led into an ambush in Fallujah. And then their bodies were taken through the streets and off of bridge. They did the thing. Yes. Yeah. And you know, it's a really important event in that period of the

Iraq war. Sure. It led to Fallujah becoming one of the big hot spots of the war. I remember. The response to this ambush killing was a full on battle to reclaim the city of Fallujah. Remember it is the first battle of Fallujah, which Iraqi insurgents won. Yeah. Which led to the second battle of Fallujah.

Wow, that is the problem with them winning any of the battles. Yeah, and also Alex keeps calling it Fuljala. He's not great. Wow. And you know what, far be it from me to judge. I'm not good at pronunciations either. Sure.

But when Alex here isn't taking into account, is that like they weren't military personnel. These were blackwaters contractors. It doesn't make their deaths somehow more okay or make it less horrific, what happened to them. But those deflections that he's giving about the military and you know, there's constant calling them, these are our boys out there. Sure's a little different when it's military mercenary contractors as opposed

to soldiers. When you think of the service, you think of people dedicated to the nation protecting the people who live here. And then whenever you think of Blackwater, you think of people who kill for money, right? And for some reason, we're okay with that in certain scenarios. I guess that's just fine to be a contract killer as long as the contractor is the United States government. Eventually, Alex does realize that these were, you know, contract folks.

Sure. But he insists on assuming that they're dine-core. I don't think he even knows about Blackwater, really. Okay. I think he may have heard of them once or twice. Yeah. But he seems not all that familiar with the organization. I mean, he should be far more familiar with that organization.

That should be his number one thing, right? But it does seem weird though that we are aware of them. Like, it seems video game that mercenary organizations even exist, right? Like, it should be in a James Bond movie. Like, in real life, you can't be like, oh, I have a gun. Yeah, pay me a hundred bucks.

Okay, that guy. You can't do that, right? But you can! I mean, I don't disagree with you. I think it's awful. That's crazy. But also, I don't disagree with you. I think it's awful. That's crazy. But also I don't think it's ever not been the case through a lot of human history.

Totally. It's mind-blowing. Would you stop and you're like, no, that's in real life? I doubt that. I think that we put up with it as a society somewhat because there's the feeling and probably inaccurate feelings that the alternative is forced conscription yeah yeah yeah you know it's so like well these people want to get

better he wants to do it over at least I'm not doing right go to them yeah and I don't know if I don't know if that's healthy either but I think that's somewhere in the back of people's minds I agree with you so Alex talks about another headline here uh... and it is about sexual assault in the military sure and i think that alix has a really bad angle on this and right also military sex assault linked to friendly fire record rates going on sorry will yet we have record women in front line positions uh... in a war situation where let's just say people's morals tend to be

great a bit, get the women out of frontline positions. Let them be generals and madmrolls or whatever, and let them be, you know, support roles. I mean, let them be in power positions, but let's not stick them in the tanks around the front lines. How's that sound? Okay, Not not a great position. So seems to take not taken to account a lot of the dynamics and a lot of the information around these issues. Like a lot of sexual assault is done as mail on mail, hazing type stuff. You know, that's that is definitely an a part of the issue of sexual harassment in the armed services. I think what Alex and I think of what a lot of people with that kind of machismo, point of view, look at, if you say sexual assault in the military, what they think is our boys

are out there raping and pillaging in the heat of battle. You know, and it's like, well, I don't approve of that, but I've never killed a man either. So who am I to judge and that kind of thing as opposed to it being like At work like there a sleep at the same place they sleep to you know like it is just a bear it's a job At that they're being assaulted at right right instead of instead of like this is a heat of battle moment Yeah, yeah, and I mean just on a on a very basic level. It is a heat of battle moment. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, just on a very basic level, it's kind of absurd in an elementary sense of like, get women out of this situation as a problem.

Yeah, that's the problem. Being like, dudes can't do this. Dude, if all we're like, get men out of this, get men out of this situation. Right. As if there is no way to be less permissive of the behaviors that encourage this kind of culture within within the services. I mean, you know, obviously, like I said, there's there's the issue of non female targeted sexual harassment.

There's the issue of sexual assault and harassment against non-enlisted persons. So like, sexual assault and harassment against non-enlisted persons. So like, it's solving the wrong problem. But that is absolutely Alex's MO. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, they're getting hurt? Well, they shouldn't be there. Right. Not an operating philosophy.

Making the women's fault for being there as the, like, you know, and I think, I'm not totally sure about this. women's fault for being there as the like as you know, and I think I'm not, I'm not totally sure about this. Sure, but I feel like then it's not always, you know, going to the front lines or whatever. Yeah, but I think you don't become a general without coming to the ranks without doing a little bit of that.

Some rank type stuff. So Alex is trying to preclude now from a lot of things. Women put regular ass women who I never done there No more put them in the general ship, but you can't ship them out can't ship them out I I because here's what I can I mean I think it really is this like you and I are going to look at the idea of sexual assaults in the military from an Adult perspective, but Alex is looking at it from the point of view of a little boy at the Alamo going,

well, war is a man's game, you know, where we prove our valor and test our might against each other. All these women only confuse things, and it's like, that's, that is how we views it, you know, that is that kind of fucked up. This is why we keep fighting all these dumb wars, kind of point of view.

Yeah, but he's anti-war. Yeah, that sounds right. So we get to calls finally. And I will say it's about 45 minutes in. Sure. We get to the first caller. And they, they, 69 more to go.

Yeah. So they, they have a perspective that the US military and the US government never helps anybody around the world and the argument is based on uh... burma that's where we start yet okay and so she basically uh... makes that point that uh... you'd never get the get it twisted like the government is trying to help people interact because of burma sure that's one people to know that

we don't go help people because there's nothing but a bunch of sweatshirts are made in barmer and then when they got caught doing it they said oh and this was in the AP report on drugs we posted on infowars yesterday I never even mentioned that was something in the stack we never got to and they said oh it was that one shirt we only got one shirt and that's the one shirt that the Washington Post bought for its study of this it's just the one shirt they magically bought is the one shirt they bought from Burma all the others are made to America and what do you want to bet that if you buy one of those shirts it's going to say maiden Burma

yeah the major point is no no only one shirt was made maiden Burma. Yeah, and the major point is... No, no, no. Only one shirt was made in Burma. And that's the one that magically got sold to Washington Post. No Washington Post. Thank God, at least we got to see one shirt. But it was one shirt. Wait, what? The only bought one. The one shirt...

Do you think of that lie? A two-year-old can figure out that's a lie. Thanks for the call. Great point. I'm coming. I should really have no idea what just happened. Great point, Chuck. I'm gonna drop. I should, you have no idea what just happened. Good points that I brought up and steamrolled you off. So first off, Burma had been called Myanmar for like 15 years

at this point of the episode. First thing I was about to ask was when did they change the day from Burda? 89. Yeah, okay. But the thing is like, there are someries that don't recognize the name change because you know, it was like a military hunter sure that changed the name I get you but also Burma's the colonial name of the country and so it makes some sense that Alex hanging on to it Right, right right right well. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't think is I don't think you would have the same opposition to the name change that some

I don't think he would have the same opposition to the name change that some governments do. I think at this point in time he's still clinging to Rhodesia a little bit, so yeah, I can see where he might be confused. Yeah, so all this being said, this was a bit of an embarrassment for Bush because he'd put an embargo on goods that were imported from Myanmar less than a year before this. And so now, one of his sweatshirts was made there. So as it turns out, the clothing was sourced from spalding, which had gotten them from a supplier called the Colorado Trading and Clothing Company. The belief was that these t-shirts had been purchased

before the embargo and had been in the CTC's warehouse, which had then been accidentally sold to spalding, which they had requested only made in America shirts and accidentally the Colorado Trading and clothing company gave them some that were Spalding believe that they'd sold as many as ten of them and when the news came out They audit their supply finding that they had sixty of the the shirts in stock and two of them had tags that said made me on bar It's a bad thing I guess and it's perfect fodder for the drama obsessed talk show hosts like Alex, but for me, I can tell this is kind of a fairly innocent mistake.

This caller is bringing up some denser issues about the US relationship with Myanmar, but the thing Alex Leans toward is this shallow content. Yeah. I assume it's probably because he doesn't actually know much about the military government that was empowering Myanmar at the time, but he does know Bush t-shirts. I-I'm all for- Okay, here's know Bush T shirts. I I'm all for okay. Here's what I'm all for I'm all for this But we all have to agree at the end of it to go Well, this was a huge waste of everybody's time, right? Okay, we had our fun now. We're done

You know because what are we doing? Do you how much money and audit and audit was done? How much time and effort and money and money and that shit went into finding out that there were a couple of Shirts someplace. Let me be clear. Audit was my word. Sure. I think they just check their stock. Yeah, they just looked around with I don't think time or money really went into it so much. Because they only had 60 of these in stock. They didn't It was not a high volume thing. See all oh, again, the more that this goes on, the more I'm like, this was great. Everyone, this was a lot of fun. We gotta stop doing this.

Well, I think that, you know, some labor groups would have some opposition to, you know, the working conditions in Myanmar. Oh, great. And so, like, the idea of getting around an embargo based on some of these issues, I think that there is there is reason why someone might care about this. I get it But then once the like the information is there about like Probably an accident. This was most likely purchased before the embargo and it wouldn't have been a

real issue for anyone to buy these shirts Who cares? Yeah, everybody should have to, you know, like, hey, yesterday we all screamed about the shirts. It was a great time. We had a great time. It was a huge waste of everybody's time. Sorry about that. Moving on to name.

There's a lot of things to complain about Bush about. Yeah. And it doesn't seem like this is. Yeah, let's let this one go. It doesn't rank. Yeah. So Alex gets another caller and this fella has a bit of news. Okay. They ends up breaking open this entire episode. Okay. Let's talk to Ben and Idaho. Ben.

Hi, I'm Hello. I've got in front of me a copy of a letter from the Idaho County Farm Bureau. Oh, this is going to be good. Yeah. Public instructions in Boise on March 22, 2004. for the public instructions in Boise on March 22, 2004. I'd like to read you just three sentences of the letter. The following is a quote from a civic textbook hence the 12th grade, we the people, the citizen and the Constitution, which has been authorized and funded by appropriations bill HR6.

The existence of a written Constitution or Bill of Rights does not mean that citizens actually have the rights they contain. Nor does the existence of laws passed by our federal, state, and local government. Daring T, the citizens will actually receive the rights the laws are supposed to protect. Okay. actually receive the rights the laws are supposed to protect okay to i guess the governments notifying itself that hey let's violate the rights well the government's notifying high school students that the that the

bill of rights in the constitution and all federal state and local laws are meaningless well the least of being honest i mean, they still have meaning because there are gods given rights, but these pack of criminals are ignoring it. Will you please fax that to me? Please fax that to me. Now, please fax that to me. So I just assume, sure, this makes total sense to me. Like, this falls in the same category as like Alex is making a big deal out of instructors saying that the founding fathers would have been considered terrorists.

Yeah, yeah. Because obviously they would be. They were trying to overthrow a government. Yeah, that was the idea. Right. They were doing a using terrorism. Yeah, so like saying that is like, well, it's descriptively true.

It's not really giving a prescriptive like, we should view them as horrible tears or anything. It doesn't make much sense other than maybe it helps you kind of open your point of view as to what things are instead of having a more myopic, you know? Yeah. And so I can hear this and imagine very easily in a textbook this being a discussion of how imperfect laws are.

Yeah. You know, like the idea that laws are passed and that does not mean that everybody is going to enjoy those laws, that's certainly the history of America. Sure. Laws are not, like, the application of them is never perfect.

No. And rights that you have are never fully protected with the way that they should be. Yeah. We wouldn't have to have them. Okay, like, okay, this law, yes, you know that it's against the law for this corporation to do that.

You know it, we know it, the corporation knows it, everybody knows it. But they also know, come get me, you know, it's gonna take time and effort and all this shit and if they can pull it off then sure it's against the law what they're doing but you don't have the the gumption to really take them to task right laws are what can be and what will be enforced yes that is objectively true I see this as being something along those lines that could be in a civics textbook

that would help understand the intersection between idealism and realism as it relates to the state, the government, all of these things. Yeah. Sayin' and doin' ain't the same thing. For Alex, this is them announcing. They are taking all the rights away and burning the bill into the bearer.

It's ridiculous. Yeah, that is. But that's very excited about this. He does have the energy of the like the Christian in eighth grade science, who's just waiting for that moment. Well, when we evolved, uh, we did not evolve. And you're like, Oh God, this is This is gonna happen isn't it right and and let's not you know mince words This isn't about the textbook. This is about a letter

So Alex said he decides we're gonna dig a little deeper into this thing all right, you know I believe what Ben just said he lives in in Idaho, and he lives down the street from Jack McClam. And the coller just read me a government document being distributed to the high school students saying that we have needed constitutional rights and that we're a rowing republic where the common good is there and that we're basically a bunch of communists. And I've seen so much stuff in textbooks, but it's amazing that they're distributing this to the high schoolers.

So, the provider, this is. The end told me, he's going to go over to Jack McClam's office. We can trust Jack McClam. I trust Ben too, but Jack McClam can have a copy of this. He can then call some of the government officials, make sure of its authenticity, and then we'll have Jack McClam on to the third hour if he's there if we can do this but i guarantee i'm gonna give it the bottom of this uh... just an amazing document that ben just read on air so i'll exist of bellishing the content of what the last caller red but it's also funny that he's gonna have him go to jack

mclam to do some trustworthy authentication the first issue is that mclam is a completely insane conspiracy theorist who is known to preach that the new world order put color coded markers on everyone's mailbox that would determine what's going to happen to you once the takeover comes. Oh, that one didn't come true. No, but it's like the hankerchief thing. But instead of being about like sexual interest, it was about like the globus, they're going to kill you maybe, except you go camp.

I like it. It's like the lipstick game. If that claim made it through McLam's fact checking, you could imagine it's not so thorough. Right. Maybe he's not doing a great job. Sure. but more to the point. What is there to fact check here? There's no primary source it best this caller has a chain letter sent out by the Idaho County Farm Bureau That purports to contain stuff from it from a text books it the I call it doesn't have that textbook Just really to reinforce it the Idaho County Farm Bureau right there man about a textbook There's no textbook Well, at least they don't have it. The Idaho County Farm Bureau. Right. They're mad about a textbook. They're mad about a textbook.

Well, at least they don't have it. Well, we don't have it. Yeah. But you can see here how excited Alex has. He has a new meme at his disposal, and he's going to build a story out of it. This is all things considered the best outcome from him when he takes calls. Yeah. Someone brings up some kind of document

that alludes to apocryphal communist shit, and now we're going to make a big show at approving it accurate. Yeah. It's amazing. No, it is, it is like clearly a moment where it's like, oh, we got a show. Now we're off.

Yeah, yeah, that is great. So that's great. It's kind of thrilling. But at this point, there's nothing else Alex can do while he's on air. This is up to McLamnack. Back to, back to the top and shit. McLamn is at the lab, at the McLab.

And he is sorting this thing out. He's getting in touch with his very relevant and credible sources. Sure. He's going to figure it out. So in the meantime, I'll access to go back to calls. And he gets a call from a guy who thinks that Clinton, sorry, not this guy. This guy, the caller has a friend who thinks that Clinton did a good job because of his handling of rwanda

now uh... okay okay uh... Alex tells the story of rwanda and the jenis no no no no no no no no no this is awful and also does not uh... comport with other times he's told the story i talk to somebody who's like there in like you to you lost we know those like smart guy in the

he's in your telling me that like clinton was a great president like well why like what's so good about it what do you do is good and he says well we're one day you always say goes back to real one day you know like he did the right thing i was a good thing to do and well in real one day they killed uh what eight hundred thousand tootsies for their land, the hooties were hired, the UN was caught doing it. So, higher? Just amazing, yeah.

But the UN was caught, actually, like, causing all the... Yeah, they killed, they believe about 100,000 by their own hands, they would take the tootsies into the country. Sorry, they can't pull out at night and have the hooties kill them. And there's also video and photos of them cuddling their off to the the the the tootsies for the middle class they own the land uh... and the who-tooth has been the downtrodden group and so the you and hard to who-tooth to kill them so that for oil shell and others could have the oil

okay we wish i go to read about it that's a question all the news articles of america destroyed by design but i just i think you know behind rwanda mass murder my question. The news articles of America destroyed by design, but just tied me in behind Rwanda mass murder. Yeah, man. Yeah, that'll definitely that'll limit your search results. Definitely. Yeah, yeah, citation my bullshit film. You will get you will get exactly what you're looking for. See, Alex is making all this shit up. And one of the dead giveaways is him saying that the UN hired the Hutu to kill the Tootsie So the UN or the Dutch Royal Shell could come take the oil that one sounds right Rwanda's not an oil producing country. So this is idiotic

But it's the prevailing narrative about the invasion of Iraq so Alex can't help but trying to make everything connect Just roll it all together. Yeah, yeah, just roll it all together Pure and simple Alex is making shit up about a genocide in order to use it for his own purposes He's a huge piece of shit. It says, it says unbelievable. That's believable. But it's past, it's past the line. Yeah, yeah.

It is, it is like a, if you're writing a screenplay, you know, the best adapted screenplay category often has people who have condensed characters for time, you know, it's all, it's all put there in such a way as to make more sense in the runtime allotted. Alex is doing that for real life, which is not good. It's bad, it's bad for real life, especially if you are supposed to be the news. Yeah, and especially if you're supposed to be the guy who's like broad spectrum. I know everything. God gave me a road map of all history in the world.

And it's granted me ultimate discernment among all people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, best adapted reality. I like that. me a road map of all history in the world. It's granted me ultimate discernment among all people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, best adapted reality. I like that. Yep, yep, that's a, yep. It's, it's, I mean offensive. It is. Yeah, yep.

So, we had another caller. Ah. And this guy brings up something that I found very interesting, something that I had forgotten from this period of 2004. Okay okay hey yeah now it's fine uh... i was wondering if you heard of what i heard this morning on one of the news channels forget which one it was it uh... him and the cc or fox okay don't matter go ahead uh... uh...

a testy a waitress at a start but retrieving a napkin that uh... rums filled and somebody else have been right now for having testing a way to set a star but retrieving a napkin that uh... rums filled and somebody else had been right now for having morning coffee talking about the the problem of uh... mister clerk being eliminated soon and it was like a drawing of his house or does it have to be heard you think about that i did hear about leaked memos shows how they quote wanted to deal with Clark and I printed it

That was yesterday and that's and then it got set aside in a stack and I don't know that's the problem I'm out of here. I'm getting hit with so much. I'm out of somebody call in Well, the phones are loaded. Oh shit. No one could call in Fuck what I'm gonna do All right, I did now remember this one. No, no You didn't remember Donald Brumsel planning an execution on an napkin and starbucks I did not remember this one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I think you want to do your assassination planning probably not at a Starbucks on an napkin. I also foolish to sign it, you know, you know,

you know, doodling, doodling assassinations. Yeah. So Alex, he saw a headline about this and totally meant to cover it, but didn't, which is a theme. Yeah. But he's like, oh, fuck, someone call in and tell us what happened here. Right.

Wait, the phones are loaded, I can't. Hey, caller, you brought this up, you tell me what happened. You want a friend down here? I did read just the top of the article, printed it, something came up, and then set it aside and stack it in the table, it didn't bring it here to the studio. She stayed. It was on drugs, and it was, you know, memo shows how they planned to deal with Clark.

And you heard this on the news, what did they say? Well, it was just like maybe a 15 second little blip. You know how they just thought out there on the radar screen and never say anything else about it again. But it was pretty much that, you know, all the was through it was that an after we were retrieved and you know, it made reference to Richard Clark and you know, that problem being eliminated soon and it was like a sketch of his house.

And like I said, it was really early this morning. That was all I had to do. I just felt drawn in his house. It could have been more than a second little piece. Were you watching television? Yeah, it was like I said on one. Well, that's the problem. I have a stack.

I love to read it. Probably could be stories. As big as what you just talked about, I mean, we have the stand-down order of Rumsfeld months before 9-11 saying, now generals can't shoot points down. It's got to come through me. I mean, it's so sick. Thanks for the call. I'm really glad you called. Yeah, it was worth it. That call. That was great. A lot of information. Yeah. So that story, as insane as it sounds, Israel. Awesome. Not all the details in the color as basic facts wrong

But the day before this episode it was reported that someone found handwritten briefing notes at a Starbucks in Washington DC They were written by a guy named Eric Ruff who was gonna be then a briefing Rumsfeld but what the response needed to be to testimony that had been recently given by Richard Clark Okay, Clark had told the 9-11 Commission that the Bush administration had ignored warnings to take al Qaeda seriously response needed to be to testimony that had been recently given by Richard Clark. Okay. Clark had told the 9-11 commission that the Bush administration had ignored warnings to take al Qaeda seriously, warnings that he himself had given. Sure. And he testified about how Bush had been obsessed with Iraq.

Yeah. Prior to any of this, you know, basically some of the stronger testimony that could be given that there was a plan that maybe an Iraq war would happen. But whatever happens. Yeah, at least to hope that we'd have a reason to do that. Well, good news is we got that all cleared out. So obviously this was a tough spot for the Bush team to be in. So this note was found, which wasn't an APKIN.

It was about ways to respond and counter the narrative that Clark was putting forth. Sure. It had nothing to do with killing him and it didn't include a drawing of Clark's home. Be very strange. There was a handwritten map about how to get to Rumsfeld's house, which was likely there because Ruff didn't know how to get there and he was supposed to go deliver a briefing. Right. So that was it. I guess it's about how to get there.

It's about the primary details. Sure. A little bit off. A little bit. You might, if you're listening to Alex's coverage of this, come away with a wrong perspective. True, true. You might be getting misinformation. Now, I will say, I will say a little bit of this has to be

a place at the feet of Donald Rumsfeld. If there was a man for whom evil does appear to come naturally, I mean, I saw the documentary. I looked at man in the eyes. He's a devil. He's insane. So, yeah. You could say that his behavior and such leads people to take more credibly something. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like he's assassination planning on an African to be.

If you said that W is assassination planning, everybody goes, get the fuck out of here. He was just drawing a house. If you say rums fell was plotting an assassination They're like he's plotting my assassination right now. Yeah, and so also a waitress didn't find it someone else who went to the Starbucks Found this stuff and then gave it to the Center for American progress Left-wing It's a they published. Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah, so that's that's organization. It's what they published. Oh, yeah, that sounds about right. So that's that's had on a waitress fight to get napkin.

But I think I think what's getting mixed up here is that like famously there was a rumsfeld napkin from like the time that he was working with Gerald Ford. Yes. And there was like an economist who had drawn like a curve of what you need to do to save like fix the economy. Yeah. And that napkin has an association with Rumsfeld. And I think because of that, these two things,

maybe that was brought up as like some kind of context around the story in the piece that this guy saw. Okay. And he's just mixing all of it up in his head. So it's describing like, okay, we saw the briefing notes and then just kind of it gets Mandela affected together with napkin and then they just of it gets Mandela affected together with napkin and they just condensed to the same story.

Or the like person who's doing the report that this guy saw on TV brings up the napkin as like says in the first time wrong self-associated with and like something left at a bubble bar. He's got a fun fact. Yeah. And so I'm just trying to like spitball ways that this could have gotten missed this game of telephone could have gone wrong could be there. Yeah. So we get another caller and they have a pretty or actually this isn't I don't think this is actually a caller.

I think this is just Alex given some news. Okay. Um there's not really adapted reality. Yeah. It has to do with uh... rick parry okay governor of texas employing somebody who's a mexican citizen that that's no good uh... governor pretty boy parry uh... turns out he is chief uh... negotiator is a mexican citizen and by the way i already knew about this but here is the incline call

he's a lobbyist for the next week of the uh... and by the way pacenta fox was here four months ago i've all horned his speech down he had to shut it down they admitted in the news lord fox gave an award to the police chief and i was a firm up for not following the federal law and doing nothing to illegal aage the extra game awards for it was in the news was a half of her

conservative uses and activists marry Williams limbole color liberal receive documents confirming the governor Rick Perry head of texas mexico relations is a mexican citizen she shared the information with some of her political French that apparently prompted an anonymous letter sent to farmers and ranchers claiming Mexico is it paying its water to the United States because Helena Polarado, I apologize, I'm not good at long names, Helena Coliandro, a resident alien, is negotiating on Texas by hand. And it says, now the Texas Secretary of State's office is demanding Williams' return on the documents.

She received, citing that the hidden, written, released, confidential documents, just who this public official is, the letter also demanded a list from Williams of everyone who she has shared the documents. So public documents, they really simply are public. It's just who this person is right as sure as this big government official. And it's an Mexican citizen who's a lobbyist for Fox. And so they're threatening her with a rest that you tell us who you talk to, that you showed this to everyone will shut up now. I don't think they're threatening anyone with the rest. I was very confused by that part.

So it is true that Helena Colliandro, Perry's, then head of Texas Mexico Relations, was a Mexican citizen. But she's also a legal resident in the United States. Right. This alone could be seen as iffy, but she's legally allowed to have a job. And I don't feel like the fact that she's from Mexico should disqualify her from holding a position like that.

It doesn't even bolster her candidacy. It seems like she could be well equipped to deal with the issues that come up related to Texas, Texas Mexico relations. Seems really important. But I can see how this may be a little bit of an edge case where arguments could go one way or another. And because of that, Alex has to make shit up in order to make it appear like his side is so clearly correct.

Right. That's why he says that she was a lobbyist for Vincenti Fox, which I can find no evidence of. Okay, that sounds right. I found a Dallas Observer article about her, which was exploring the possibility that she was hired for a position with the Texas Tomorrow Fund due to nepotism. Since her husband was the Chief of Staff for Texas Comptptroller Carol Keaton-Rylander. In that article, it goes extensively through her work history and education, and it doesn't really seem like lobbyist for Vincenté Fox was a part of it. Also, you can kind of tell that Alex has no knowledge of this story from how he begins covering it.

Listen to this clip, you is the issue chronicle. He's a lobbyist for the Mexican government. Oh yeah. Alex said he, Alex thinks the negotiator in question is a dude because he has zero knowledge about this story. He's just kind of winged it. Yeah. The issue with this whole thing is that this anti-tax activist Mary Williams made a public records request about Coleandro, but the people who were fulfilling this request accidentally included a resident alien number which is not a matter of public record. God sakes. The government wanted that information return because it's a very sensitive confidential thing. Yeah. It's subject public records. Yeah. Don't give your social security number out. Yeah. That's the that's the issue that

they had. They didn't really care. No, that's fucked up. About other shit. Man, I hate it when they do shit like that. That's the most annoying. But again, from everything I was able to find, it does seem like that was a legit mistake that was made in terms of the fulfilling the records request.

And it's just being exploited around. And I think that the only thing really that you have to go on is that she's from Mexico. Like that's the only thing really that you have to go on is that she's from Mexico. Like that's the only thing that they're mad about and implying that there is some kind of, you know, dual loyalty. Yeah, yeah, there's some kind of a working on behalf of Mexico because she's from Mexico. Right. Right.

Against the United States interest. And I don't know if I see any indication of this. It is, it is so weird because it feels like that's that same, like, against the United States interests, and I don't know if I see any indication of this. It is so weird because it feels like that's that same like evolutionary human fine patterns, even if there aren't patterns anywhere, just as like, you know, like, oh, this is why whenever you look up at the sky,

it looks like there's a guy out there it's because your brain makes that happen. That idea of like, well, you know, dual Mexico is just instantly, like that doesn't mean anything. No, she, it's just, She'd lived here for over a decade. Yeah.

Gone to university here, had jobs in marketing and stuff here. And it's just, it's just basically like, you can't trust, you can't trust people who are not American. Yeah, I didn't, and it's just it's just basically like you can't trust you can't trust people who are not American. Yeah I find it very very I don't know I'm not convinced. I've never understood the idea Because I get people being like oh America's the greatest and that's I want to they want to destroy us You know, but I don't get why you wouldn't go well America's the greatest and that's why they want to like make America

That's why they want to join us because it's fucking awesome, you know like she's lived in America for a decade Because it's fucking great, you know like that sees that the idea. Why aren't we all like yeah, it's fucking great here Sure, I mean that makes sense. I yeah, but then also like in order to make this argument to like cast suspicion on this person I want us to make stuff up. Yeah, like that she's a lobbyist for Vincenti Fox. That seems weird. Yeah, you could not be Well, and definitely this article that he is talking about this this chronicle article does not say that at all And that's why it's weird when Alex is reading the article Benjamin Hanson, General Counsel Secretary of State, G.O.F. Conner, loving conservative, said he is just trying to recover the document, the contains information that could be used

to invade the privacy of the foreign lobbyist. So in the actual article it says invade Koleandro's privacy. Yeah, that's right. And Alex switches it to invade the privacy of the foreign lobbyist. Now you can tell when he's editorializing for like he's he makes it a loving yeah, reput conservative or whatever that isn't a strong indicator that he's deviating from the text of the article. Right. When he says invade the privacy of the foreign lobbyist, he's deviating from the text of the article. When he says, invade the privacy of the foreign lobbyist, he's using the same reading voice. It looks like that.

And that is intentional. That is lying. He is lying to the audience by way of presentation. Yeah. Reading as if this article actually says the thing that backs up his claim when it doesn't. Yeah. It's a fucking liar.

Yeah. That's very true. Yeah. I mean, that's about all I got on that I mean you fucking nailed him to the wall. What else is there to say you you see a man nailed to the wall? You go damn he got nailed. There's some nails help now. Yeah Big big news mm-hmm. We have fact checked the document for a good. We're back on the okay speed All right awesome. Yeah, the narrative continues. Check-offs farmlighter has come through. Right. Listen to the excitement.

I wasn't going to have any guests on the day, but a caller, Ben and Idaho called me first hour. And Ben said that the local school district had issued a document to the high school seniors that there is no bill of rights that we are here to serve the state. And it just turned out that he is friends with Jack McClam and I believe the individual when he read the document, but I have to check it out, he's now vaccinated to me. But to double he checked it, I had Jack McClam get a hold of the last 30 minutes and make some calls and this and stuff. And it is the local county document. It's a document. What is it? What is he trying to present this as? I don't, I don't get it. I, I tell you this right now. Mm hmm. I I want to go back to when the conspiracy is

the school gave a document to seniors. And at no point in time is everybody a pedophile. That is true. It's great. That's great. There's something refreshing about the timeliness of this conspiracy. Because seniors, who fucking cares?

It is it a document or is it a textbook that you're misrepresenting even even then what would a high school senior care? That's that's a good question. Yeah, I don't I mean Have you met a high school senior when I was a senior? I don't think I would have cared too much Oh the bill of rights. I'm still trying to get laid out. No idea what you're talking about Also, let me be clear about this. Yeah. Alex is making up the high school senior thing. 100%.

That's just how they're in there. Let's be clear about that. Yeah. I, although I like it as a detail. I think that a book like this, that's giving kind of basic stuff on civics. Sure. That might be closer to freshmen. I don't know if that's senior year stuff.

I mean, now it's senior year back then it was freshman. It might even be junior high level kind of stuff. But anyway, we got this fact checked. And I do love the coming in with that blustery crush. Dude, the lies loves it. And just think for a second about the lies that we've seen just on this episode, crashing through, making up that this person worked for consenty fox. Completely

botching the story about the napkin. That's a car crash. Yeah. Saying that the UN hired the who to to kill the tootsie. Jerry's still out on that one. Not so sure. Oh. So yeah, it may be maybe Alex should calm down a little bit with how he's crashing through the lines. I know, but this is really exciting to him. So he's got he's got Jack McLam there. And to get into this, these Alex starts by misrepresenting the call that Ben made earlier in the show. We were there. Paul in the first hour from Ben in Idaho. And I believe Ben, you know, I've got good discernment in the document. He was reading sound of the official 20 years. It you know, I've got good discernment and the document he was reading sound official.

Twenty years. It's similar to what I've seen them teaching at the universities and it said that in a nutshell, we're going to read on Aaron a second. It said that there's no constitutional rights. You don't really have any rights. We're going to take all your rights. First, it was just a second amendment now, but America isn't about making money or having your own life.

It's about serving the state and state your master Weird thing to put in a book and this is given to the high school seniors Yeah, I don't I don't feel like this accurately reflects Anything I am I am still hung up on this idea Because now the more I think about it the more I think everybody is kind of obsessed with this idea that high school seniors are Paying attention to what you think Yeah, oh we can't we can't let high school seniors read this believe me dude. You don't need to worry about it

You do not need to the one thing you don't need to worry about is what it is a high school senior is reading about the United States government right now worry about is what it is a high school senior is reading about the United States government right now. I don't know if it's universal in all schools, but I remember that there was just a mandatory civics like maybe trimester or something like that. And it happened when you're in junior high maybe yep, and no one cared No one gave a ship It was like they almost and I mean that would be a conspiracy is that they put civics something that is incredibly important Yeah in a place where no one would ever pay attention to it. Yeah, and it's a mere formality totally

Everybody's acting like you shouldn't care the whole time like the teacher that told me all the stuff about Sussex is like and this won't come important you know it's like I'm Trump So the glam yeah comes in and he lays out a bit of a conspiracy about what's going on here But we're concerned about our schools all across the country and we're following up on these things as fast as we can but brave god forbiddy the free me their president of the Idaho county farm bureau that brought it to our attention this uh... book that's been uh...

uh... from that uh... is being offered at a very low price to the schools oh my god low price school can afford it because most textbooks are very expensive that is called we the people and it's right along the lines of the humanist magazine in nineteen eighty

three remember when uh... john dumpy said i'm convinced that the battle for human kinds future must be waged in one in the public school classroom by teachers that correctly perceive the role as proselytizers of the new faith which will replace the rotting corpse of Christianity. Sure. Wow. Yeah. That might be coming in a little hot. Yeah. You got a letter. From the Idaho County Farm Bureau. I would go and we're skipping straight to and that's how we're going to destroy Christianity

worldwide. That's something. I had a difficult time trying to get to the bottom of this because we the people is a fairly common name for textbooks. Tough to, yeah. But there are a number of options of it that it could be. And from stuff that I've skimmed, I don't know if it's destroying God. I find this to be a little bit excessive. I mean, I would be in a sort of, there is a sort of curiosity I have towards what would be an Assythic textbook now,

but it would be assuaged almost immediately within two seconds of reading it, and it would be like, oh, yeah, I'm bored by this, and then I'd be done. Again, this is why you shouldn't care what high school seniors think about you. You're a classic high school senior. Exactly. Just bored by civics.

What's this at? Who cares? Moving on. So I'm not clear what fact checking has been done past McLams saw the letter. True. I think that's all that's going on here. He had a really good quote. Well, that one from Dung.

Yeah, that was a pretty good quote. Sure. So we got two, we got two things at least. Slight paraphrasing also I should say. I believe you. But like, so I don't know what's being fact check here. Right. And I also think that if you listen to what he's saying, he doesn't even know if it's in what he's saying, he doesn't even know if it's in any schools. He says it just offered cheap. Oh, it's cheap. That's his

angle on this. It's like, Oh, you could tell that it's the government because it's so cheap. Yeah. And it's offered cheap so that people will use it because all other books are really expensive, right? Which doesn't tell me that it is being used. I would all, I mean, in my experience, if something's on a must go off the shelves sale, that's usually not because it's been selling too good. No. No. No.

I don't know. I don't know. I'm just not convinced. But, Jack McLean believes that there should be very serious consequences. Spoken gun, this is it. Well, and punishments. Oh, as they should be out.

Yes. For everyone involved in this textbook scheme, top to bottom. And then to see the textbooks, and that we, the people text would play as out their nationwide. We're getting calls. They should be.

They should be. Get calls. Sure you are. This is so, it shows us what they're what they want well it's absolutely treason it's not a that you can't call it by any other name you know it's absolutely treason and these people are

got a haggle and prosecuted for treason wow they're putting out this information because it's totally against our constitutional system and they know it and it's to undermine this nation and overthrow it. And by the way, if I wanted to publish books as part of the First Amendment and tell us communism and evil and wickedness is good, that's their right. But when they collude to put it the schools as part of a conspiracy, a program, that's not the First Amendment, that's the government destroying the Bill of Rights in Constitution and that is treason according to

the Constitution you haven't proven any collusion here you've just made a great argument against faith-based organizations in schools that is true that is true I see I see no evidence of treason no I see no evidence of treason. Nope, I see no evidence that this is an attempt to destroy the country. What even is ridiculous? What part of it could be treason? I mean, even if it's at best,

willful misunderstanding of a sentence. On their part. Maybe poorly written textbook material. That's Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I just, I, I yearn for this in some, in some sense. Yeah. This kind of Alex episode, yeah, where it's just nothing's happening. Stakes it low. He's talking a bunch of bullshit with callers. Yep. And then something happens it gets his attention It turns into a show. Yeah, you know, we have this this letter from the Iowa Farm Bureau. Yeah Idaho County Farm Bureau that becomes like oh, we've got documents. I made this is proof of treason

Yeah, you have a letter from the Idaho County Farm Bureau and you want to hang people What? Yep. Yeah, this will be forgotten There is that you know the stories of like the mad kings and that kind of stuff when you get so paranoid that even the slightest thing makes you go Ah, executive like That makes sense. I guess if you're a king because then you can do it But if you're just so asshole like ah execute that guy execute that guy execute them all They're fucking Jack Michael. I'm calm down. Exactly. You've got a letter from the Idaho County Farm Bureau, okay? Yeah, I I would say that

I was gonna say I'd take this more seriously if they had the actual book, but I'm not sure that I would Because so McLam ends up reading stuff from the text. Yeah more seriously if they had the actual book, but I'm not sure that I would. I don't think so. Because so McLamn ends up reading stuff from the text. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's all just the stuff that the guy previously read from the letter. I mean, he clearly just has the letter. Amazing. And so I don't know.

Trinason, this is, this is, people are a little dramatic. This is a little bit like an episode of the Magic School Bus. You know, like everybody's sitting around. Finally, we have a question that deserves the Magic School Bus. So we get on the Magic School Bus. We discover, of course, the way that the government works. And apparently that filters back through to buying textbooks that you cheap textbooks. That's right.

And then Miss Frizzle is like, and that's why they're coming to steal your children. Yep. Okay. And destroy God and overthrow the country. Yes. For communism. For communism. Yep.

That is a good plan. It is a good, if it works, if it works, that is the cheapest way to win I've ever heard so in order for this really to Work yeah, so I'm guessing okay. Here's what the conspiracy has to be all right, so the globalists yes They make this textbook that has under mining information about the United States government I'm real kids. You guys want to smoke a dope joint. So they create this book. Now under the guise of a textbook. Oh, we love text.

And because they have all the Roth Child money, they don't care about return on investment. They can sell this book cheap. Frankly, they wish they could pay you to take it. Absolutely. But they can't. That would be suspicious. Much like Ted Anderson does with his silver. Exactly.

I'll give you a silver coin to read my dope information. Yes, that is suspicious. Much like Ted Anderson does with his silver. Exactly. I'll give you silver coin to read my double information. Yes, that is suspicious. Yes. Yes. So they sell it really cheap. Knowing that the government has a low education budget. Right. So we could go one of two ways with this. Sure. They're exploiting the low education budget. Little bit of Colomé. Or they're in cohoots with the government. Little bit of Colomé or they're in co-hooks with the government. Little bit of Colomé. And they're making the price low so the government can have an excuse to use these clear communist textbooks. See, this is where I got hung up. Yeah. Because that to me suggests that they also control the price of other textbooks. Thus making it so that they could make these other textbooks look more unattractive in comparison. Pump the brakes. The conspiracy is now that the globalists have written all

civics textbooks. Right? You have to add that in there. And the ones that are good, they are artificially implating the price of. Why did you spend so much money writing textbooks? You don't want people to. Full spectrum dominance. You got to cover all your basis. Vertical integration. Right. Yeah, I get you. I get you So I think we got to the bottom of it. I think we fix this one Oh, boy, what a dumb episode. I kind of like I remember I kind of really like it So one thing that I have been really clear about yes, and I'll stand by this until my dying breath your man

Alex is very bad at predicting things. Yes, and I'll stand by this until my dying breath. Your man, Alex is very bad at predicting things. Yes, that's true. He has this reputation that is unearned and based on bullshit and misrepresentations that he's good at predicting things. And actually, it's his self promotion. Certainly. He's good at exploiting attention economies and that's more or less what he does. And the way he brands himself is a profit guy.

Also, by the way, I realized that we're in 2004 because we're like, one of the things that we're trying to figure out is Alex saying that the bath party is going to... That's right. Yeah, they're going to be put back into power. They are being put back into power. Yes.

And completely forgotten about that. And Alex has not brought it up in quite a while. Yeah, that sounds right. And so now we're sort of in just no man's land of, and when we're talking about like how bad he is a predicting thing, that's kind of a piece of it. He's so bad at it and so wrong. And this thing in the past that I forgot

that that's what I was supposed to be paying attention to. Yeah, I think the true irony of this would be, if that's the one thing that he's never spoken about again. And it wouldn't be so. Yeah, and then we spend the rest of our lives going through each episode fine tooth comb. And that was the only thing that he just said and dropped. Well, I get the sense that possibly at this point he's realized how incredibly wrong that was.

You and he's just stopped. You would think. Yeah. Yeah. Or, but we'll never find out. You would just stopped. You would think. Yeah. Yeah. Or, but we'll never find out. We'll never know. Until.

So anyway, he's bad at predicting things. Yes. But in the interest of fairness, I decided to include a prediction that Alex makes that he's actually totally correct about. OK. You think Bush is going to be a real actor? You think we're going to see that, Kerry?

I've been saying for three years, I think, Bush will be a real actor. I said, John, if Kerry, two years ago, would be reelected. He's going to see that, Kerry. I've been saying for three years, I think Bush will be reelected. I said, John F. Kerry two years ago would be the, would be the running mate. He's the running mate, not the, the, the candidate Bush is running against. He's the coffin mate, because there's sculling bones, skeleton made of bush, the cousin of bush, and it's all the stage deal. Right. Absolutely. George.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll be our next I had a little bit fancy and maybe he's a little bit off on some things. Fun. You know, the the question was, is Bush going to get reelected and Alex says, I think he is. I predict that he is. Not granted. This is a pretty easy prediction to make. Wasn't hard. I think I think a lot of people, even people on the left, as I recall, this election, no one really thought that Kerry had much of a chance.

It was very uninspiring candidate for the most part. Bush had the wartime president vibe going. So I don't think anybody would have, I don't know, maybe some people did, but I don't think most people have, I don't know, maybe some people did, but I don't think most people would put their money on Kerry. I seemingly recall perhaps more than in any other election in my lifetime, everyone agreeing that Kerry sucked.

Even the people who are following the news, no. We're voting for you, we're being pushed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the people who work for Kerry were like, listen, oh, we know Kerry sucks. That's fine, but like, come on, look at bush. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're the people who work for Kerry. We're like, listen, oh, we know Kerry sucks. That's fine. But like, come on, look at him. Yeah. Yeah, I do feel like all of the galvanizing energy

that I remember was all like he's not bush. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And bush sucks. Look at this war. It was like the beginning of the ant of the never Trump. It was like the proto version of that, like, listen, we're just getting anything, anything but this guy, even if it makes you wanna stab yourself

in the throat to vote for that guy. Yeah, yeah. And so I think that it's an unimpressive prediction that Alex makes. I would be far more impressed if he would have guessed Kerry and Kerry somehow magically won. That would have been, because that would have been

a pretty out there prediction. Yeah. To make or if you was like who else ran and keys. I don't know who was running the belt. Yeah, I'm running that year. That is that is one of those things where it's like people remember carry for the Swift boat episode. Yeah. As far as like the lore of the election goes. But that's given far more credit for what really was everybody just looked at Carrie and we're like you are the most boring person I can think of well without without swift boat in that whole affair Shipping in sure Carrie probably still wouldn't have won right. I don't think anybody has any illusions about that true But it did make a big dent in some of his support and it was one of the more dirty tricks

That was played in in recent electoral history at that point. So I understand why it sticks out in people's minds as like a really important thing. Well, also nothing else was really going on. True, and Kerry is so boring. You're so fucking boring. Yeah, congratulations Alex, you're right about that one. One prediction coin in the jar.

I think that's good. Yeah. What's that put us in negative 998,994 bottles of beer on the wall? You bet. Yeah. Something along those lines is correct. So, um, become to the end of this and we've really, really taken a lot of time to care about the Idaho County Farm Bureau's letter. They're chain fear letters. I mean, there's there is a certain part of my soul that feels like, yes, this is what we're for. You know, like on a certain level of like, we shouldn't like that we have have so many times touched on very important subjects. That seems bad, but we should be here.

Somebody needs to make sure that the Idaho County Farm Bureau is not given free reign to just panic the people about. They are out of pocket. No, here's the other thing too. Like this is something that I've maybe stressed a little bit in the recent past, but something that I think is important to recognize is that Alex's career is largely yalling about drug headlines and like your grandma's chain emails. Yeah, yeah. Like in the present day, there's so much stuff

that's just based on tweets and memes and completely erroneous or unsourced kind of bullshit that comes on social media. And at this point in his career, it really isn't different. It's a fucking chain letter that somebody got from the Idaho County Farm Bureau. It's something that's from a message board. It's a headline chain letter that somebody got from the Idaho County Farm Bureau. Yep. It's something that's from a message board. It's a headline that I like skimmed on drudge about an napkin. You know, it's not any different. His career has been trivial as

shit for like almost the entire career in terms of like where is the information that he's getting and disseminating to you coming from. Yeah. It might as well just be memes all the way down. No, it is not unlike the roundup kind of show format. Like if he was on VH1 doing those little box right next to your head things, doing a 30 second splash for each one, that would be about right. It's like, here's your day's roundup.

Well, I know County Farm Bureau, go crazy, man. Next, you know? Yeah, post on a weird gun themed message board. Yeah. But that's the, that's the, that's the thing. It's just reasonable. Yeah.

It's the idea. It's not, it's not like we're talking about journalism or real stories per se. Right. We're talking about just the Idaho County Farm Bureau's Janie mail. It's fun. Right. We're talking about, um, just Ida Hoke County Farm Bureau's Jane e-mail. It's fun. Yes. There's no one is going to be hurt. Well, people are hurt. I mean, obviously, yes, Christianity will be destroyed in the United States. Well, this textbook gets us true. That's true. But other than that, you know, nobody's, thank God they found this textbook.

Because otherwise our country would have been overthrown And God would be destroyed and I mean You know, but yeah God doesn't let those kind of mistakes happen. No, that's why he created Alex To keep that textbook mm-hmm away from the life work has been a chance away from the hands of those high school seniors, hungry and waiting for change. Whose minds would have been blown by this huge textbook? Who'd have woken them up to the truth? It definitely wasn't real, man. Definitely wouldn't have made them go, oh, I will go back outside and get high again.

Right. I'm going to pretend to have read this so I can do my homework. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. So anyway, happy new year. Happy new year. We'll be back with a new episode in the new year. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. So anyway, happy new year. Happy new year. We'll be back with a new episode in the new year.

Indeed. Let's say new year more. That's the plan. But tell then, we have a website. Indie we do, it's not always right.com. We're somewhere on social media. We are. We are.

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