Knowledge Fight - #886: More Like Jimmy Bore, Part 2

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan wrap up covering Alex's interview with Jimmy Dore.  Business really picks up compared to the first part, with revelations about demon attacks and oxygen levels in the brain.

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I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. I need money. Andy and Andy and Andy and Andy and Andy and Andy and Andy and Andy and Andy Just time to pray Andy and Hansa sure on the earth thanks for holding So Alex from a fifth family with your fan, I love your world knowledge fight No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Welcome back knowledge right now. I'm Dan. I'm George work up dudes like sit around worship with the altar of Sleen and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan. Yeah Jordan quick question for you. What's up?

What's your mind spot today buddy? Well my brain spot today I've already actually talked to you a little bit about yes watch the entire first season of traders on my on my Recommendation I didn't recommend it before as well. That's true. That's true And I it first came to my it first came to my attention my headphones have now come on plugged Oh, they're in the wrong here. They're in the wrong here, buddy. You keep them in your right ear This is what happens when you switch headphones all right You think you got to put it in the left ear, but it goes in the right and here we are Changes wrong. So now I've got the left ear

The right phone. Yeah over my right ear. It's backwards now. Oh my God, you're killing me. Yeah, but it's not as to be because the court has to be over here. It has to be around it. Yeah, it has to be. So no, I first heard of the show, I think, because I heard that Parvity from Survivor was gonna be on season two. Right. And so I was like, what's this now? What's this show?

And so I had it in my mind, but then I think it was your recommendation that might have put me over the edge. Sure. But yeah, I watched all think it was your recommendation to put me over the edge. Sure. But yeah, I watched all of it. It's fine. Good.

I'll in coming. It does get better. It's good. Doesn't get better. Snazzy dress. I could listen to him say Martha about 300 times a night. Yeah. And he can, you know, you can tell a lot of the times when someone isn't enjoying hosting a show and he's having a blast.

Yeah. when someone isn't enjoying hosting a show and he's having a blast. You can, yeah, there's some time, you know, like with that 007 show where Brian Cox was clearly, like, you are paying me way too much money to use zero amount of my talent on this fuck it. Let's ride. And it's the same thing, because in that show, Brian Cox did these like cinematic weird, like, for no reason.

Yeah, there would be so many reaction shots of him looking to the camera and be like, right? You didn't say anything. And in this one, Alan Cumming is using all of his like ability to seduce a camera. Yeah, 100%. Yes. It's great.

It is fun. He really is. You can't take your eyes off him. My favorite thing about it, one of the people on the show, Christian, is what I described to you as big Nick Roli energy, reminded me very, very much of a dear old friend from the standup days. And then the other thing that is great about the show, that other reality shows should learn from, is it's tight. It is tight. Yeah, that's true. They never have that much time to sit around and do nothing. Yeah. Like the schedule of how the show runs is like this is happening today.

We got to bang it out in a week, man. Someone's getting murdered tonight. And then it's we're starting over. It's there's no days off. I don't have reshoots. That really helps. Yeah. Because as much as I like the challenge and you know,

so there's other shows. There's a lot of fat. There's a lot of fat that can be trimmed. And there's really, you know, the pace, really helps keep people on their toes. It's a mystery type show. They're trying to solve who are the traders among them. Yeah.

And so there should be that pressure cooker aspect of it. Oh, totally. And I think that that was wise of them, even if it is probably a budgetary concern. I think it's also partly the game concern because they all have to go home to separate. It's like a jury They all have to be sequestered at the end of every night Otherwise the three main care or the three traders don't get to be there, right?

Right, so you don't have all that time of like, you know Johnny bananas in a bunk bed with wearing half a shirt looking at four different people arguing about shit, right? You know, and it's like no there at their hotel going, I wonder what's gonna happen. Am I gonna get murdered tonight? Speaking of which, Johnny Bananas is on the next season that starts soon. He is not on the next season. You are joking.

CT and Johnny Bananas are both on season two. No, you're fucking with me. You are fucking with me. They announced the cast and they have no more normies. Normies. This, the first season was half reality show celebrities and half normal people. Yeah. And I think that actually was a good blend.

But apparently this time it's all the celebrity types. No shit. And so you got CT and Johnny bananas both from the challenge. You got Parvati from Survivor. Oh, I thought, okay. So I got the new season. I thought there was a new season that was happening right now. It starts on the 12th.

See, there's a new season in the UK that's happening right now. Oh, okay. I thought was the same show. There's a different host, obviously, and it took me a hundred hours to figure out the day. And because that one's in Scotland, this one takes place in Arkansas. Exactly, it's like they're both set in the same castle.

Yeah, the budgetary concerns. Budgetary concerns for sure. But yeah, so I'm excited about that. CT, Johnny Banana, Sandra Parvati. Amazing. I don't know who a lot of these other people are from shows that I've never watched, but a lot of real high-rise wives.

Don't you think, I think Johnny's a traitor. I swear to God, I think he's a piece of shit. I've known this guy for 25 fucking years. My mind reels to imagine CT as a trader or as not. He's gonna be gone fast. CT, if he is a trader, the moment where he takes off his hood in the little dungeon area, that'll be the best. Everyone will turn and be like, what the fuck are you doing CT?

Now here's the thing. Yeah. We're talking about this for too long, but... Way too long. I do think it would be fascinating to have this show exist when CT was a violent drug It's so he's one of the traders, but he keeps getting to fight Seriously murder somebody Anyway, what's your bright spot my bright spot? I was I was kindly asked to be a guest on

podcast called book cult By Sydney with Sydney and Delaney. They were very, very nice. I thought you were going to say you were on Marin. No, they wanted to talk about my book inexplicably. I think they were going through the 10 worst authors and I was number one. Look at this false modesty. 2024. So that's not false modesty. It was negative self-talk. It was really nice. It was really nice. They they had found our show But recently so it wasn't and and one of them read my book without knowing who I was at all So that was like oh, that's great. It's some unfiltered criticism and you know what? Okay is good enough for me. Hey, yeah, we all aspire for okay. I think is the enemy of good

Perfect is the enemy of good and good is gonna get murdered by okay That's how it's gonna be that's 2024 buddy. Okay is gonna get murdered by CT tonight when he's a traitor. Oh man We gotta get bananas out of you I can't do a CT X that'd be great. Um so Jordan. Yes, today we got an episode episode to go over. And this is a day of wrapping up loose ends, if you will. Okay. Unfortunately, that means that I found the rest of the Jimmy Doer audio.

Oh, shit. And I decided we are kind of leaving a dangling thread. Sure, sure. And I don't want it to be like a hundred episodes from now, like, whatever happened to that. So let's go ahead. Let's get done with it yeah some stupid fucking shit Hmm, but here we go. I'm looking forward to 2026 when we finally get to reset wars

There might be sooner than you think might be sooner than you think I'll leave it at that. Okay, Alex likes to say all right But before we get done business on this episode. Let's say hello to some new walls. That's great idea first Sam C Thank you so much you're an outpulls walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next go home and tell your mother you're a grifter. Thank you so much for an out-palsie walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next Dawson, a donation has been made in your name to the Transhuman Fund by T. Congratulations. Thank you so much for an out-palsie walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, hey, Scott with a K Olsen. Are you listening yet? Those were all capital letters. Oh, yeah.

Love Jay. Thank you so much, you're an now, Paul's who aren't. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Dan and Jordan, stop saying Sharia law. It's cringed. Signed to Muslim.

Thank you so much, you're an now, Paul's who aren't. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Do we say Sharia law a lot? I don't think, I think only in the context of whenever crazy people say it Maybe I don't think we're actually talking about the real thing ever. I'll be more mindful I guess I know that we don't need to I don't need to no time So we also got a technic grad in the mix Jordan. Thank you so much to my wife's name is Jordan and her dad's name is Dan

So she's always looking up when I play this podcast in the car. Thank you so much you and I have technic grad I'm a policy walk I'll help you mother tell you brilliant someone someone satan might send me a book in a poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little kitty baby I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. I think it's a much. Yeah, thank you very much And I'm getting very self-conscious about it. We talked about the traders for a very long time And maybe didn't give a good enough plug for that podcast that you were on What was the name of it again? Just in case people are like I don't want to go back

20 seconds in book B. Oh, okay, cult cult Cult available wherever you get your finest podcast with Sydney and Elaine. So something that is unfortunately also probably on various podcasts by forms is Jimmy Doris. We talked about our first episode of 2024 was getting into the old door swing in the door opens. And now it's time to slam the door shut. I do think so.

I do think so. I was left curious, but not really hungry for more. Sure. After the hour and 15 minute or so version that I had heard of there in real, which I went into thinking was the whole thing. Yeah. But I was able to find the rest of it. And I don't know if it's unedited, like it's what Jimmy put out on his YouTube page.

Okay. So I'm not sure. It seems about the like we're going to start up at about an hour and 15. And that's about where the first one ended. Yeah, so that's about right. Yeah. There are little things like the part before the introduction in the our first episode where Alex saying, I only drink what you spit in my mouth.

Sure. That is cut out. So it's cleaned up a little. So it leaves it leaves open like the possibility that some things were like brushed up a little bit just fine. But either way we start I don't know. I don't think this is the same topic they were covering. That's really last left off. But complaining about homelessness. If you remember a couple of weeks ago, Gisium being visited San Francisco, and if you've ever been to San Francisco, there's homeless people everywhere. Will they clean that up for Gisium being to come there? And just like, so a couple of years ago, Gavin Newsom announced that there was a $40 billion surplus.

You could put Alex up. There was a $40 billion surplus, you could put Alex up, there was a $40 billion surplus in California. And I was like, well, I bet he's going to clean up homelessness and he's going to give people health care. They did nothing. They did nothing with that $40 billion. And now they're saying it's all gone. And I don't know. And no one knows where it went. And so we know that they could clean, they could end homelessness in America for a fraction of the money that they sent to Ukraine at the blink of an eye and Restore it and that's right. They could have fixed it four or five times over Show and they could have sent everybody to college for free

They won't do any of that so it's I'm developing this theory that They're wanting us to be on edge and they want us just like Tucker had talked about it when he was on our show. They want you to when you go to the 7 11, you have to step over a homeless person and everything's locked up behind cages. And you're going to get a crazy person screaming at you so that you will welcome authoritarianism, right? Just like with the terrorist attack on 9 11 did we became a surveillance state. People gave up their freedoms. By the way, the Patriot Act was on a show for years they were waiting to implement that and so people just forgot that every email every text every

phone call they make is being recorded and taken and categorized and collected by the government and so I've tried to I'm starting to develop a story like so it they keep saying that Trump and Trumpers are going to start a civil war. The people starting the civil war are the corporate media, which are beholden to a handful of billionaires, which are beholden to no country. And they it's like they want us fighting. They want us at each other's throats. They want homeless this year.

That's why they won't fix it. They want everybody to be on edge and afraid. So just off the bat, I'd like to say that Jimmy's theory is dumb. Yes. It's right in line with him becoming more and more a part of a community of people who like to craft dumb theories, which seems to be his career trajectory. He'll fit in fine with these guys. So as you visited San Francisco recently, it's part of a meeting for the summit for the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation or APEC. And in advance of that, a couple spots that were frequented by people experiencing homelessness would congregate those got cleared out.

Right. This was achieved partially by opening up a small number of additional shelter beds, but also by stepping up arrests for drug-related crime. And by pushing the unhoused people away from these areas that were near where G and other world leaders would be meeting. Right. I don't think that Jimmy is suggesting that they solved the problem of homelessness in order to impress she, but his messaging is very convoluted here.

I understand that he thinks it's hypocritical to just do this in order to not look bad in front of another world later, but does he support the kind of tactics that were used to put a bandaid on this issue? Like, I feel like he shouldn't, but I'm left unclear. So one thing about this clip that I want to highlight is how it illustrates that Jimmy is a person who's prone to bouts of impotent non-curiosity. He has questions that he assumes, you know, he thinks that no one has the answers to, which he just results in him spewing and being angry about something that he

assumes like we, well, why, why, why, like with the budget? The budget surplies. Sure, sure, sure, sure. He says that no one knows what that money was spent on. But if he was curious at all, he could have found that answer very easily. Oh, because people do know what that money is. Oh, yeah. In November 2022, the half to there's an accountant. Yeah. It works there. It's his job. But it's even simpler than that. The head of the California Department of Finance, HD Palmer, was interviewed by a capital public radio and he explained it fully. Quote. So the governor, when he was noting our surplus, said that this isn't going to go on forever.

In the past in California, when we've been in good times, the governor's and legislatures have thought this is going to go on forever and we can continue budgeting. In doing what we've done so far, thinking that we're going to be in good times for a number of years, it's turned out painfully not to be the case. The governor was very mindful of that back in May, and he said, let's be smart about how we deal with the surplus. And the legislature agreed with him, and they were smart in a couple of areas. They chose to pay down debt for prior years, they chose to build up our budget reserves,

they chose to continue reducing our long term liabilities like pension obligations, and they chose to use a good chunk of the discretionary part of the surplus on one time spending, as opposed to building a higher ongoing level of spending. And probably the best example of that in terms of one time spending is the 9.5 billion in inflation relief payments that have been going out this fall to a total of about 17 million Californians and are continuing to go out and will go out through the end of the year. That's provided some near term relief for Californians who've been hit hard by inflation,

but that's a one-time expenditure on a targeted program where we think it had a very helpful result. All of this was available information for Jimmy, but no one knows where any of this money was. Sure. You can disagree with the choices of how the state used the surplus, but just to pretend that it's a mystery and no one knows what happened to the money is intellectually dishonest, and the mark of someone who doesn't really care so much about the stuff he's talking about

and seems to just be looking for talking points to yell about. Also Jimmy is saying that the government didn't spend the surplus on ending homelessness or giving people free healthcare or higher education. That's great. In my mind, those are great things to invest in, but he's talking to Alex Jones, someone who doesn't think the state should pay for any of that stuff. Alex believes that the state paying for any of that stuff is rank communism, and the state would only do it

to make you reliant on them so they can more easily exterminate you. And unless the two of them address that ridiculous elephant in the room, their conversation doesn't make any sense. But back to Jimmy's theory. Sure, how the man or the globalists want you to be on house people around. So at the 7-11, it keeps you on edge, except authoritarianism. That's dumb, like I said, very. It's also very similar to a lot of the theories Alex has, and the similarity

is dehumanization. The people experiencing homelessness are people to Jimmy, in the same way that refugees and asylum seekers aren't people to Alex. There are weapons that some evil cabal is using against the good people like Jimmy and Alex. If you buy into mentalities like this, you're far less likely to connect to the subject you're talking about with empathy and more likely to tend toward paranoia and hostility. The problem homelessness becomes something that's secondary to the larger problem you actually are focused on, which is the ways you imagine the man is secretly meddling to try and keep you on edge. The obviously, this has the result of taking away your interest in working towards legislation that helps unhouse people, because ultimately what's the point?

If you do that, the man is just going to find some other way to keep you on edge, so dealing with homelessness is really just re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Having this mindset is a very convenient way to continue to pretend that you have left leaving politics but allow your mind and everything you do to be consumed by conspiracism which seems to be what's going on. I mean I don't these people at all of these conversations from these people should have ended the moment somebody was like hey Elon you can fix world hunger and he was like okay I'll do it and then they were like you can do it for this money

that you won't notice is gone. He's like, oh, I'll do it. And then he's just like, nah, I don't think I'm gonna do it. I just didn't. Like if Elon Musk, by himself, already their hero can end their problem that they're complaining about right now without noticing a change in his bank account. Yeah.

And their arguments are nothing to me. Well, but also the other element that you have to encounter with that is that there wouldn't be oversight and governmental like red tape to get through where Elon to do that. That's what I'm saying, yeah. Whereas any attempt to deal with these problems through government, largesse, and expenditure is going to be violently posed by people like Alex, who Jimmy is talking to.

One of the big reasons why the government doesn't spend more money on the things that he wants them to apparently is because of the person he's talking to and the world that he represents. Also, I know they are sending money to Ukraine, but a lot of those giant figures who hear like military equipment and stuff. So like, you don't need that here? I'm not, I am. But either way, Alex has a response to Jimmy's dumb theory.

Which lets hear it. And it's not a good response. Okay. It's not even a bad response. Okay. It's barely a response. All right. I really am an expert on this because I read the writings,

voluminously, kind of the high-president. The luminously. You've all know a horaries and books. And so a lot goes into this, but at one level, you're 100% right, and there's some other levels to it, in my view. Carl Schwab has said, we want an angrier world. So they want you to see dystopia and pain. It was declassified. And since

the 60s, the CIA wanted ugly art, ugly architecture, ugly culture, uh, so that you would, I'm sorry, ugly or world and just get used to it and wouldn't demand beauty and, and, and wouldn't go along with, with, with, with, with art was bad in their world because they were about to in the experiment of America with all its problems and all the issues. It was the wall, wall, west. What could we could we all do? I blessed. Sure. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but Alex absolutely does not read voluminously stuff by W E F figures like Schwab or Harari. Absolutely not. He knows a couple of out of context quotes from them that he's seen in memes and he knows the extreme right wing social media talking points

that he uses as launching pads to rant, but he's never read any of their books. Klaus Schwab never said that he wanted to create an angrier world. Alex is lying about a CNBC interview he did in July 2020 that was given the headline, quote, W-E-F founder, must prepare for an angrier world. The interview was about how the election was upcoming and we were in the earlier stages of the COVID crisis and Schwab was predicting that the world would likely become more angry. The remedy that he proposes is greater dialogue among countries and stakeholders, as well as a push to provide equal access to things like the medical system.

Since Jimmy is such a big Medicare for all guy, that should have been right up his alley, but you'll never know that was what Schwab was talking about if your main source of information is liars who make things up about headlines. There's nothing in any of Schwab nor Harari's book about a plot to create an angrier world. This is just something Alex has made up and decided to pretend is a real plan that Klaush Schwab has. It wasn't even on that album of his. Well, maybe it was.

Maybe it was actually in there. That would have been a great cut. I would have preferred that one. I wish that in that whole thing. Yeah. That whole album of Schwab covers. One of them was just like the Limp Biscuits break stuff. Sure. But all the lyrics were the same. Like all the other ones were parody songs about you. That's just like, man, this is class's favorite song. It's time to karaoke it. Yeah. I think if Weird Al actually tried to do that album,

it would go platinum. I think it'd be great. Weird Al as Klaus Schwab in, again, the AI voice really ruined it. It really did. It's not nearly as funny anymore. It sucks. I don't, what I hate about this stuff, especially from Dora,

because he's an idiot. And Kurt, he just needs to shut up. The big effect that these episodes have done is really make you not like Kurt Metzger. I really hate Kurt Metzger. You want me with a positive opinion on him? He was pretty funny. Now I hate him a lot.

It's not going to get better throughout the course of this. Yeah, I believe it. No, it is that, like, this is what they want. They want you on edge or all of this stuff. And nobody can just handle the idea that, like, it is not a they want situation. Houselessness ultimately comes down to like, there's a guy whose job it is to maximize profits

for a business. That's his job. He doesn't think he's a guy whose job it is to maximize profits for a business. That's his job. He doesn't think he's a good guy or a bad guy. He just thinks this is my job. And there's a hundred of those guys, and then there's a million of those guys, and then there's a boss who's a millionaire, and then there's a stock buyback,

and that's the business, you know? Now there's 6.5 billion in profits instead of 3.5 billion, and that 3.5, a three extra billion in profits could have put people in houses. And it wasn't because some evil guy thought we would need to put people on edge,

it's because there's a hundred guys in their job, it's just maximize profits. Yeah, and because society has for better or worse and despite good intentions from other people, we are apparently complacent with a government that doesn't step in and mandate some of these things. Exactly. Like the idea of a- Those choices could be made.

A profit cap would end this world and it makes the most sense of anything. What are you talking about? You can only make blood in profits. But then what? Well, that's money that you're just taking. It's not money you're reinvesting. You're taking it. Sounds like you hate freedom. I do.

So also Alex is completely wrong about the whole thing about CIA and art? No, that one actually was made, yeah. Mm-hmm. So during the Cold War, the CIA funded groups like the Congress for Cultural Freedom. They had promoted Western art as a propaganda effort against the Soviet Union.

Sure. The thinking was that the US and Western culture was so much more free and thus more creative. And if it was celebrated, it would be a massive cultural victory over the Soviet system, which was much more traditional and caught up in the past. Alva art styles like abstract expressionism

stood in stark contrast to the prevailing culture of the Soviet Union at the time. And many have suggested that part of the push in terms of popularizing this style and artists like Jackson Pollock had to do with cultural fronts like the CCF, some of which were essentially CIA fronts. Yeah, the irony, of course, is at the same time they are blacklisting Jews for being in Hollywood

for making things that people would appreciate in the very similar sense. Weird. But even in the most, or I should say, excuse me, the least generous interpretation of that history with the CIA and art, it wasn't about making Americans accept an uglier world and not demand beauty. It was yet another weird idea that anti-communists put into action during the Cold War. Alex's version is probably a lot more fun, though, and it fits into the conspiracy architecture that Jimmy wants to play inside of, so that's the version of reality that you're going to get out of this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is weird how a lot of people just just did drugs and we're like, hey, we're in the CIA somehow. Let's just keep doing shit.

And then we allowed it to happen. Yeah. They just did drugs and then committed war crimes. And that was the CIA until now. Was this your book? Was this part of your book? There's a little bit part of my book. I did a lot of research. A chapter. They did drugs. And that was pretty much it.

So, uh, Builderburg comes up. Sure. Um, and Alex talks about, uh, his infiltration strategies that he's used over the years. He's, you mean, walking in, reserving a hotel room. Uh, are there any other infiltration strategies? There's one other. You mean walking in, reserving a hotel room. Are there any other infiltration strategies? There's one other.

If you talk to, when I've come to build a bird, myself for the 10 times, I crew many other times, we get into the hotel a few days before they close it. And we, I had a car and I say, when the builder bird group comes here to the, to the waiters and to the staff and to the bartender, to the, to the bell hop, when they come here and you see how rude and evil and mean they are and you hear what they're saying. You're calling. Remember call me and give me information.

This is all one card or things they throw on the trash. Give them to me. I learned that from Jim Tucker, an old reporter that have been covering him since the, since the 70s and he's dead now, but he was a really interesting old fashioned gum shit. And so they would then be so rude and so mean and never give a one cent tip. None of them give tips. Hillary Clinton, a restaurant gives no tip. A lot of times skips out on it.

And they're all like this. Gavin Newsom, I'm told people that knowing they're all like this because they are such sociopaths slash psychopathic. They're all in that scale that to them, they don't understand doing good to others comes back to you. They don't get that if they crap in the swimming pool, they'd got to close the community pool because they're so rich and powerful. They're disconnected forever being in a community pool. So they feel so insulated and so distaste less time you're in a community pool, even though they're conscious of the people, they're in a body, they're even their genetics still has the

old human there. So they subconsciously hate themselves. So they then project onto the public, their own self-loathing. And I've talked to top psychokers about psychokers. It's true. They only fool alive when they're doing something better being nasty. Sure. And if they do anything nice, they are so hyper competitive that they feel like they're being cheated. Wow.

A tire of the speculation about how good a tipper Hillary is. Also, I should say even by Alex's inaccurate schedule of Bilderberg meetings, he said they're in Europe three years and then in the US one, is tipping customary in all of the countries that they're in. It's just ridiculous. It's just us, right?

So anyway, I found an article in Fox News of all places from 2007 about how good a tipper Hillary is. Oh my God. Apparently she and her entourage ate at a maid right in Iowa, where the bill was $157 and they left a $100 tip. Who knows if that's normal for her? I sure don't. People should tip well, but this is a gossip level shit that Alex is trying to exaggerate into being some kind of relevant political point about their psychology.

If anyone like, okay, of all the things that Hillary can be right once you become Secretary of State How much you tip will always be less important to me in terms of like you're standing as a good or bad person True then the number of war crimes you commit and I would suggest to you that in that position that you're in sure You're often not picking up the check. That's true. I would assume a shaw of life that Hillary Clinton is at. That's probably true. There's usually probably someone who's her body person who cocks his car. At the very least, at the very least, most lunches can be written off

as a business expense. I would assume that some of those decisions are a little bit farmed out with other people. So Alex is absolutely not physically covered, build a bird 10 times. He's been to the one in London that we covered for our fly show in London. He went to that one in Chantilly, Virginia in 2008.

And he went to the one in Canada that's included in the film Endgame. We did see that. Outside of that, I'm not sure he's gone to any of the others. And of those, the only one where he definitely got into the hotel was in Chantilly. The other times, you just bullhorned people

driving by in cars. Yep. Alex has never produced anything that's been provided by Bilderberg, Waitstaff, Whistleblowers. It's just the Trojan horse that he uses to launder his bullshit. It's the same trick that Jim Tucker and Daniel Estelen use. They make up stuff about the Bilderberg meetings. And if they need to provide a source,

they can say some disgruntled waiter told them about what they overheard in the shadowy back rooms. It's just a parlor trick Smart move of Alex though not to talk about who Jim Tucker wrote for or how the publication He was the editor of his full Holocaust denial. Well, no, no, no, just a good old-fashioned gum shoe Listen who didn't deny the Holocaust back then I was barely quite a few people quite a few people back come on there was prevailing. prevailing among the two. editorial position among commies.

Well, yikes. Yeah, that's so you even feel good. No. So Alex in that last clip said that they a lot. They want. Yes, they want to be fair. Jimmy did too. He's saying that they want everybody to be on edge. Yep. But Jimmy wants to know who are you talking about when you say they? That is a good question. Because I know the answer. I bet if we all talked about who they were,

we'd get a lot of different answers. You bet. But we know the answer. Sure. And it's the globalist. Stop. I'll be. But then the question then becomes who are the globalists. Well, that's not a good question to ask. But here's Alex's discussion of it. All right. How did you define who, when you keep keep when you say they, how do you define they? Who is the they? There are sociopaths and psychopaths in the Chinese government and corporations already up to that's good. Psychopaths in the German government. There are sociopaths and psychopaths in the US government. There are sociopaths and psychopaths in the Israeli government. There are sociopaths and psychopaths in the Russian government. but they've already been through 80 plus years of this. So

they're in many ways having a renaissance and try to, to, to, to get away from it. That's your page fully on the bottom yet. So we're going deeper into it. But if you want to know, it runs it. Black rocks, as I, you know, that you've covered it. Black rock, state, street, and vanguard. All control by the same group of less than a dozen managers control 88% of world assets and wealth. And they've said, we'll use this to control people. They want to cut off our resources, they're saying, we can't take showers or wash our clothes.

It's an Obamacol average, you can't have a car or air conditioning, but he can have jumbo jets, you know, palatial things, you know, all over the place. And so it's a religion of you, as I say, not as I do. I'm an annoyed at one. I'm a priest class. So, notice the one Alex wants to appeal to folks who aren't as far on his side of the extreme right. He'll often stress his opposition to Black Rock a lot more. That's a solid strategic move since the people he's talking to. In this case, Jimi's viewers probably also hate black rock. Yeah

They may hate them for a different reason than Alex does, but Alex can use the optics to smooth that over But let's get the let's track this answer that Alex gives when he's asked who they are. Yeah, we know it's the globalists But here we get Alex being descriptive so we can assume this is a description of the globalists. Right. There's sociopaths and psychopaths in all the world governments So they're in all the world government? So that's the first description. Yes. It's unhelpful. I'm entirely unhelpful.

No. Some people everywhere are doing it. That's very helpful. But there's no connective tissue other than their crazy people and some people. Oh, no, there's some people. There's some of them. It's also clear from the part that Alex says about Russia that he means communists, which he doesn't have a coherent definition for all

This means nothing. Well, some people who like to get together and do stuff that anti-communists don't like right and then I'm also gonna extend Anti-communist into being like I kind of hate Minorities, but I mean that's there people who are in support of it writes for minorities and things like that Then I think they're commies. Yeah, yeah, that's an insipiate case. So then Alex says that it's BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street. BlackRock manages about 9.5 trillion in assets and is the largest business of that sort in the world, while the other two are also giant financial entities. It's fair enough to say that these three companies represent a significant problem for

our country, but it's not in the way that Alex suggests. Alex doesn't know anything about these companies outside of the little tidbits of information that he's gleamed from memes and headlines of articles that he's never read. Case in point, Alex says that these three companies are controlled by the same 12 people, I think he says less than a dozen, and that they control 88% of all assets and wealth. That's a lot. So the first question is, who are these 12 people? Alex has never really mentioned anyone outside

of Larry Fink as somebody who's in charge of BlackRock and the only things that Alex even knows about him are various right wing culture war memes. Like how he supports ESGs. Right. Who runs State Street? The current chair is Joseph Huley and their president CEO is Ryan Hanley,

but those are names that Alex ever brings up. Most likely because no one's posted a meme of them yet. Yeah, yeah. But are they two of the 12? Does Alex know who runs Van Gogh? I feel like Bill Gates has got to be somewhere in there, right? Well, not the one. Council of 13. I forget numbers now. 12 because he doesn't do he doesn't do odd numbers, like any good council would. No, but there's a secret baker's doesn't yeah That's a good one. That's where Bill Gates is that's the trick is so like this Alex. No who runs Vanguard? Nope, this is the does the name I was gonna make up a fake name But then the guy's name ended up being Mortimer Buckley. That's unreal. That's a good name

That's you see now that's when you then swing you're like oh Maybe we never did get rid of King George if Mortimer Buckley is a rich person in America in 2024, we didn't defeat the king. He goes play Tim. He goes play Tim. Yeah, I bet he does. The smart change. Smart change, Morty. So Mortimer Buckley has never been a constant obsession for Alex.

Obviously not, because he isn't memeable. And Alex just covers memes. Right. But for real, who the fuck are these 12 people? Yeah, Vanguard has a page on their website with profiles of their managing directors And there's 12 of them at that company alone They have 13 members on their board of directors and not much overlap between them You go to black rock and you've got into global executive committee of 24 people double the number that Alex is saying make all the Decisions between the three companies when Alex is saying is, there aren't less than a dozen people at these three companies

that run everything. It's just that there are very limited number of people involved in these businesses that Alex has been able to turn into characters. These are businesses, and even if we disagree with their aims and their particular way of making money, Alex's view of them is very reductive. Part of this is due to the nature of conspiracy, how everything has to be boiled down to a small cabal that's in charge of everything. It doesn't serve the conspiracy theorist to deal with BlackRock as a business with 24

members of a global executive committee, and who knows how many hundreds or thousands of employees downstream, many of which are the people who manage the investments they hold, and who make decisions about those holdings. That gets super complicated really quick, so the image of it has to be that these companies are essentially dictatorships run by figureheads that Alex has been able to turn into characters. Thus far, that's only been possible to Larry Fink, which is why BlackRock comes up much more in Alex's diatripes, but he includes State Street and Vanguard when he rattles off the list because it makes good window dressing. And what about his claim that these three companies, quote, control 88% of world assets and wealth? Is that true? What do you think? 88 seems high.

Like, like, a lot of people who get re-elected with 97% of the popular vote, that has the same ring of honesty to it. Yeah, yeah, it's not true. These companies are investment companies, and they put together portfolios for funds, for corporate or individual investors to put money into for a bunch of different purposes. Some of it might just be for individual investments, some of it might be putting together a retirement package

or corporate pension funds. And in order to do this, they pull individual and corporate money to invest into these collections of stocks and funds that they put together index funds. Right. It can be a little more complicated than that, but as a fairly basic elementary way to view their role, that's a decent summation. The stat that Alex is citing, the 88% number is not a percentage of assets or wealth that they own or control. It's an approximation of the percentage of assets that are being traded in the context of index funds that are managed by these three companies. They have what many consider to be an effective oligopoly over the exchange traded funds or EFT market, but this is not the same thing as what Alex is saying.

Still a problem, not the same thing that Alex is saying. That number, which may well be in the lower 80% does not account for all investment, and it certainly doesn't account for all wealth. That said, these three companies do pose a very serious problem, and it's one that should be addressed. The amount of assets these three companies manage has generally been increasing in recent years, and there's every reason to assume they'll continue to remain in that position, squeezing out smaller index fund-managing committees. This is worrying from the standpoint of the economy, but there's also another issue that Alex is somewhat

right about, but gets pretty much entirely wrong. As the holders of a great deal of stock, which they own in these funds, which people then invest in, these three companies have an outsize say in votes within the companies for which they hold stock. In a 2019 paper in the Boston University Law Review, professors Lucian Bebcic and Scott Hurst cited a statistic that from 1998 to 2017, the average combined stake of BlackRock Vanguard in State Street in S&P 500 companies quadrupled from 5.2% to 20.5%.

And that quote, assuming that past trends continue, we estimate that the share of votes that the big three would cast at S&P companies could we well reach about 34% of votes in the next decade and 41% in two decades. The issue with this is pretty obvious and that it represents a consolidated and very outsized influence that these companies could have on corporate decisions. And this is exactly where Alex has a valid criticism about these companies. He brings up that they have these investments and holdings and other companies that gives them sway, but the only time this ever comes up is when he needs to complain about people

being too woke, which is where the criticism goes entirely off the rails. Why is the new little mermaid not white? Because Black Rock owns Sharon Disney and they're pushing their woke agenda. Why is Bud Light putting Dylan Mulvaney on a single promotional can? Because Black Rock invests in Anheuser Bush and they're pushing their woke agenda. This is the place where the anti-BlackRock type narrative fits in Alex's world, and the fundamental irony is that the role these three companies play in their corporate existence is far more aligned with Alex's politics than he likes to pretend.

Alex and his ilk drum up this meaningless but loud opposition to these companies, and maybe they'll make a small dent in their earnings for the quarter, but then things fizz-aloud in the right-wing culture war obsessives move on to the next meme, they're told to get angry about it, nothing really changes. The conversation may at times dip its toe into talks of boycotting these companies that black rock holds investments in, but even that's an impotent action. But it's about as far as someone like Alex can go. And the reason for that is that all the viable solutions for the problem to these giant companies present are things that Alex directly opposes.

Things like changing tech structures and regulations around retirement funds. Things like entirely new regulation on corporate governance in the landscape that these giant funds create. Things like hyper taxation on money management. These are all things that would work to deal with the issue. This outsized influence has,

and they're all things that Alex would start a war to oppose. Yeah, I think that's what is, I think the lesson ultimately here is that Alex needs BlackRock to exist. Yes. Like, Alex does not exist without BlackRock existing because BlackRock makes all of the conspiracy theories true enough for people to believe. Yes, you know.

Well, so it's paved enough of the road that you can veer off it wherever you want to go, which is the complaining about the little mermaid and Bill and Mulvaney. And BlackRock needs Alex, because Alex keeps people from criticizing BlackRock for real reasons. Because he veers them off the road

before the point where there's something actually meaningful that can be done. If anyone is in a conspiracy with BlackRock, K, State, Street, and etc. It is Alex and the right wing media to make sure that we don't actually address because in a real situation, just to be clear though, you're not, you're not suggesting that they are actually talking to me. No, I don't, I mean, they don't, they have entwined interests that they both are, they're maybe aware of, but I don't think the BlackRock't there's a big thing again. They have entwined interests that is that they both are maybe aware of but I don't think the black Rock gives a fuck what Alex does no that's what I'm saying that's that's the business that's the hundred business managers

Just trying to maximize private. They're not thinking they're doing good or bad. I sure I work for black rock you work for McDonald's They're doing evil too. What do you want? But that is where we are and until and I mean a reasonable society Should be able to listen to Alex talk about BlackRock and go, hold on, shut up. Stop talking. Then we stop everything. We deal with BlackRock and then we come back. No, no, no, no.

Because we cannot do both at the same time. I can't talk to Alex and have BlackRock continue to exist. No, no, fuck you, fuck you. Here's what we're gonna do. Yep. We're gonna make videos of ourselves shooting Budweiser cans because BlackRock funds about analyzed bush and the two woke.

Actually, you won me over. You won me over. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, that is what it is, right? Yeah. Like, we all agree BlackRock is wrong, and we need to stop them.

And the only reason we can't is because rich people I think that there's some people who would believe it's less wrong and some people probably don't even think it's wrong That's fine, but they should also probably be getting rid of I think that There are at least a fair amount of voices who recognize the Danger that this organization, not the organization of these companies, but the organization of the economy in this way,

the dangers that it can present. And some of the things that I was reading did, somewhat compare this to early anti-trust times in a way that makes a fair amount of sense. I mean, yeah, it's Robert Barons. Like, I mean, yeah, it's a, it's robber barons, you know, like I mean, it is a, it is a luxury somewhat of 2024 that arguments should be so much shorter now because if you cannot look at BlackRock,

if you can't look at the situation with BlackRock and just be like, they have that much, that's too much. It's ridiculous. If you can't do that, then like, they have that much. That's too much. It's ridiculous. If you can't do that, then we don't have a conversation. Well, but here's the thing. They don't like own all those stocks. I get, I hear me out.

You see what I'm saying? I'm not defending. That's why I'm saying it's a short answer. This is why it's a little bit more complicated. It's not like they have like they own all this stuff and they run all these companies and all this. It's, I give you a second. This is where you and I are going to be

in a struggle here because the nuance is very important for the second part. What is important for now is the fury. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not exactly sure. It's the only way you're gonna get to the second part. What is important for now is the fury. Yeah, I'm not the fury. I'm not exactly sure. Is the only way you're going to get to the second part. Yeah. Yeah, you're not going to get there by being like, hey, listen, what we need to do is tax

rate. The only problem that I have with that, because I somewhat agree with you, is that fury is the thing that gets you derailed. And fury is the thing that someone like Alex can distort and use uh... he can he can use that as his clay well and that's that's why that's the only one of the only reasons that i would try and put a pause on advocating fury no i know you can't i also think that unchecked fury in some ways can lead you to think like well what i should do is blow up a black rock building or something. And that's not necessarily what you should be saying here.

On this, most glorious of anniversaries. It's the seventh. I think it's important. No, it is undirected fury. And that's where we get into trouble. Because on one side, we have, because the directives, we will get directed by Alex, that's what you're saying.

That's what I'm saying, yeah. Nobody else is directing it. Nobody else is willing to, because there is the idea that if you direct Fury period, you are the bad guy. And Alex, the only people who are actively doing it, are the bad guys. And so we have a complete abdication of responsibility towards directing righteous and real Fury and giving up to it to Alex.

There may be there may be something to that. So Alex can't really oppose BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street in any meaningful way because there really isn't a solution outside of getting the government to impose some kind of guardrails. The only other option really is to get investors to not invest in their various funds, but the odds of that happening is essentially zero when their funds are the best performing one. Make less money! No! The solution Alex has of demonizing companies that are too woke and maybe getting their profits down temporarily doesn't make even the smallest difference for the companies. Really doesn't. So if these three companies are the ones behind the globalists, then strong government intervention is what needs to happen. And you can count on Alex to never support that happening.

Trump isn't going to do it, the vape isn't going to do it, but ironically there's a decent chance that Biden could. For all the criticism that he gets, one of the things people don't talk about enough is Biden and his administration showing a lot of promise in the realm of anti-trust issues. They have multiple investigations into things like live nations, effective monopoly over ticketing, and visa's relationship with competition in terms of payment processing. A lot of that does not come to fruition yet, and it's not that it never will.

This is coming down the pipeline. Sure. And it's not stuff that's gone to the level of these like index for funds. But there's an indication in how Biden's administration has moved that they're taking monopolies more seriously than predecessors. And more seriously than he often gets credit for because it's easy to see very obvious ineptitudes in some of the things that he puts forth and the Biden administration does. Right. But I mean, that's also part of the, that's hamstrung by the stuff he did in the past, you know, like part of the reason that the executive branch can't handle this because that's a case that'll take 10 years in court to really deal with, you know, some of that's coming down the ripe theory this year. Sure. Sure, but I mean

Then there's a new executive and then all of a sudden, you know, and it's like because of the amount of money and because of the way that they've set this up over the past 40 years, that is a thing that they can take advantage of. So yes, he's doing this and the reason he's not doing it as fast as people want him to

is because of shit he did in the past. You know, it's like you, you, it's something you lose. There may be, but I don't think that that is in any way is like something that should take away from like the argument to do it. Oh, no, no, no, absolutely not. I'm saying that this is where we are where it's like I, I understand he doesn't like that people aren't giving him credit for that shit. I'm not saying this because Biden told me to. No, no, no, I'm not saying you are. I'm not saying this because Biden told me to. No, no, I'm not saying you are either. I'm not saying the Biden called me, he's like,

hey, Dan, look, people are, credit where credit is due. You know, that is true, but the problem there is like, I agree with you, this is just where the government, this is how the government works, there's just guys. But doing their job. At the same time, if Alex were gonna bet on a candidate to take on the fight that he wants,

yeah, he should choose Biden. Wow. He's not going to do that because his opposition to these companies is, it's not sincere, it's political theater. But you know, it is, I think, important, generally speaking, when there's something to Alex's thoughts and ideas that does make sense and has some kernel of truth to not shy away from that. And he's criticisms about how much control in theory

over the voting by virtue of the ownership of stock that these companies have is at its core a decent point. It goes wrong, but to pretend that like that isn't a point just because Alex is saying it is not fair. The, yeah, I mean, and it gets back to that same like that ratio thing, you know, like at a certain point, Alex is describing a problem that is more important to handle than the problem of Alex. You know, I still, I still wouldn't team up with Alex to problems. No, no, no, I don't mean team up with Alex. I'm gonna retain my problems with Alex.

I don't mean team up with Alex. I mean that because Alex is talking about it, people are going to look at Alex as the problem. Right. Instead of being like, hey, this time Alex, you're still the problem, but these guys are shut up. We're leaving you alone. You're fuck off. Fuck off.

We got to deal with these guys first. Sit this one out. Go on another non-vacation vacation. Here's what we'll do. Here's what we'll do, Alex. We're going to go deal with BlackRock, and then when we get back, you see what your conspiracy is.

That's what I feel like the answer should be. Well, because ultimately... There's going to be another conspiracy, sure. Well, but then we'll have taken care of BlackRock, which may be any attempt that Alex and his sort of type would have any influence they would have in trying to solve the problem of Black. We'll only give them greater power, which is why we have to do it.

Well, not me, I don't have a lot of control over these things. It's time to do it. Yep. So, look, one of the things that characterizes this interview is Jimmy is asleep at the wheel. He is nothing going on. He just lets Alex Ramble for such long stretches. So, if you look at the brain of a Henry Kessinger and the brain of a subignant Rizinski, can we? One is Chinese, one is Jewish, or the white Hitler Hitler said everybody else's weak and dumb survival of the fetus social Darwinism

We're going to kill everybody that doesn't go along with us and and and some will be left to slaves But really we'll get rid of them later. I mean the people say well Why is you all know that Charislingberg saying we don't need humans. It's time to get rid of people the future is not human Hitler just said the future Isn't anybody but an area which is bad enough? You'll all know Arari says the future ain't even human. That's a quote He says humans are gone by 2047 and you can read NBC headlines the same thing a New York Times headlines looking forward to the end of humanity I'm in the grocery store checkout line. Saw similar headline last week.

It's telling you, your garbage, your filth, you killed the earth. Don't have a life force. Don't have a survival instinct. You're killing everything. Look at the garbage. Look at the homeless. Look at the everything. Just die. Roll over. Don't live. Don't thrive. Don't contend for the future. Don't affect the future because we have the Renaissance system of believing in humans in egalitarianism and classical liberalism and really empowering people, but doing it through the classical human system. That's the great awakening that we're in that's countering the great reset, the war against the globalists defeating the globalists and launching the next great Renaissance and they can't compete with that.

They are a evil, stinking witch. What? That's literally trying to hand out poison apples versus literally in row in their prime. Freedom in the Renaissance and liberalism, real liberalism is marion and row in her prime. And the new world order is like a skexy from the dark crystal. They have to make everything ugly because they're ugly spiritually, culturally, metaphysically, and they need everything ugly to camouflage themselves because they're so fallen. So don't I just learned recently that the AP the new service the AP the owners of

the AP is it the Rothschilds? They're they own a lot of stuff through Black Rock they also own the economist magazine oh my god yeah so Jimmy just let Alex rant about basically nothing for minutes on it. Can you do that? I didn't know you could do that. Yeah barely. That's like that was a complaint that? I didn't know you could do that. Yeah, barely. That feels like that. It was a complaint like, oh, I wasn't listening at all.

Marilyn Monroe is hot, sketchies are ugly. Anyway, so the AP. Yeah. And they owned by the Rothschild. Yeah, like you just let him go on and on and then the rejoinder is to spout an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory about the Rothschild zoning the AP.

Before we get to that, we've talked about the Rothschild family's connection to the economist. That has nothing to do with BlackRock and the Rothschild family doesn't own BlackRock as Alex is clearly suggesting that. No one owns the Associated Press per se. It's a non-for-profit news organization that began and continues to exist as a co-op. They began in 1846 and to this day retain exhaustive corporate archives that contain their quote, quote news administrative and government arms And what do you know they weren't founded by nor they owned by the Rothschilds But you know what there was a meme that periodically circulates in right wing social media the claims of the Rothschilds

Own the AP and Reuters so it looks like Jimmy saw that and counted that is learning huh he learned that recently weird It's fucking cute. You can just see something on the internet and that's learning. Yeah. The only reason you'd say something like this is if you're a complete idiot drawn in by conspiracism so deeply of no clue what direction is up, or possibly to lay an expert trap to get Alex to endorse this obviously idiotic position that is based in anti-commit, anti-smetted conspiracy theory so you have a gotcha moment. And I assure you it is not the second one.

Okay, all right. You know what? Let's back up. I'm sick of caring about real world stuff. Let's get back into where I belong, comedy. All right. You just had Alex Jones go off on a whole jag about how the future is Marilyn Monroe or whatever right the

Patriots whatever I don't give a shit what his actual words are right the point is you've got Jimmy Doer and Kurt Madskar's ostensible comedians and your response to that is not to riff is not to enjoy yourself It should go hey, I heard the AP owns the Ross child or whatever it is fuck you Mm-hmm fuck you have fun. Yeah, how dare you now? There's no fun here I should go, hey, I heard the AP owns the Rothschilds or whatever it is. Fuck you. Fuck you have fun. Yeah, no. How dare you. No, there's no fun here.

How dare you pretend to be, stop doing stand up as over. Everybody should be done. Jimmy's got some tour dates coming up. That is not real. I bet he does. Oh my God. So anyway, the rest of all that, the stuff that Alex is saying is no connection to reality. He's just taking input.

He refuses to understand, like Harari's writings or the article with that headline looking forward to the end of humanity, and Raine took about his feelings about them. If you're drawn into this meaning, anything, the only thing you're doing is taking Alex's emotions on as truth, and then pretending that it's something that's based in sources and information, and you're a fool. Yeah, you could be like, oh, Patriots are doing it,

you're like, ah, Alex, you're the hot air underneath Marilyn Monroe's dress. Ah, you know, you just got, just fucking something. Acknowledge the man said something ridiculous. No. Why's I feel crazy? Well, you're gonna keep you on crazy. I feel fucking crazy that he responded to that with like, ah, I heard the Rothschilds, doesn't he, AP?

Hmm, interesting. How dare you? So, Alex has heard about the Rothschilds. So now it's time to smell some fucking Nazi propaganda. Any other Rothschilds? That's a whole other story. I'm sure you know it. But the British Empire was dominant until 1815.

Oh God. But it was in complete control for a hundred years after that because the Battle of Waterloo was so decisive defeating the continental forces of Napoleon Bonaparte for the second time with the Prussian British Pinser attack that the Rothschilds, this is on record, sent a carrier pigeon to a fast Corvette ship to race across and to tell everyone

the stock market opened that morning that Napoleon had won and that Lord Wellard could have been smashed. And the stock market went down 99%. The Rothschilds then bought up this on record, 99% of the stock market. So they weren't just the richest family in the world up until that point. They were traveling the world up until that point on record. Okay. Married into the British royalty, everything. Then after 1815 about a waterloo, they owned the British Empire. They all the major stocks. They got it. Of course, Napoleon really lost. And they only had six hours, six hours before they came in and said, no, well, LinkedIn has one tight. It's almost

hard to believe. One. And then it all shot back up above where it even was. So look for them to do this again with a cyber attack. They're saying Trump supporters with no evidence with a cyber attack. Cancel the election. The election is 10 points ahead and are more. Okay. So we talked about this many times. So I'm not going to belabor the point.

But in case there are people listening who haven't heard some of our older episodes. This story about Nathan Rothschild is not true. It's a piece of anti-Semitic lore that's been passed down over time, most prominently by the literal Nazi propaganda film called the Rothschild's Share It Waterloo, produced at the command of Joseph Gerbels. Oh, and while we're here, we might as well plug Jewish

Space Lages in my Rothschilds excellent book. Yeah, I was gonna say my Rothschild, but I was looking at my notes and the name Matthew was there Oh, it was called the Nacky Rothschild nice. So anyway this film the Rothschilds share Waterloo was part of a Concerted media campaign to demonize Jewish people that included this film as well as the a little bit more blunt the eternal Jew So this story about Nathan Rothschild and the getting early information about Waterloo and using it to his advantage at the stock market traces further back to an 1846 pamphlet that was written by someone using the pen name Satan. The person behind that was a deeply anti-Semitic dude named Matthew George D'Arnville, who

really hated the Rothschilds. He wrote that pamphlet making up this story, it gained popularity in anti-Semitic circles until it was made far more popular by literal Nazi propaganda material And is now endlessly paraded by idiots like Alex Jones It probably Jimmy Dore in the future because he learns from memes. Yeah, I give it I give it five ten minutes Yeah, tell you just repeats as if something I learned recently. Yeah, you know who told me this? I can't remember who but it sounds a lot like Alex Jones. Oh my god I learned this really fascinating thing about 1815 man great. I'm always a fan of like

Guys like Alex is understanding of military history always fascinates me like all this like It's all about the pincer movement and all this stuff and it's like man War up until like a few years ago really. It's just who shit themselves to death less So we're telling me like that's who just Dicentary. It's Dicentary. It's like Chess. It's like Oregon Trail. Where it's like, now it's like, risk. Now it's a little bit.

Then overlay of Monopoul. Now it's more like the Yukon Trail. The sequel to the Oregon Trail, where you only slightly die of Dicentary most of the time. War is like Fortnite. This is how it's used by special report. So Alex just goes deeper into this. And this is just fucking dumb. They all admit this at the academic level like we're done animals. I'm just reading what they're actually saying. And they in mainline

PhD history books, they admit all this about the Rothschilds. Now I go on air and say it, they go, oh, anti-Semitic. And it's nothing to do with Jews to say that the Rothschilds did this and are super powerful or that I have an argument against Chinese because GGP is bad. Am I saying Chinese or bad? No, I'm not. But it really is true that that's how a German Jewish banking family who ran pawn shops basically in Germany and loan money to people, that's how they

parlayed their wealth from 500 years ago by 1815 to rule most of the earth. The sun never set on the British Empire. Then World War One, the Austrian Hungarian Empire got so dominant, I'm going to give a history lesson, but it's important to know that the British intelligence and the black hand assassinate France, Ferdinand, the archstug, the Germans all go crazy because they were winning with all the new patents, all the new science. The British newspapers would come up with a German problem and, you know, they're going to, so the British Empire was corrupt, overextended and so World War One was started by them. World War Two was Hitler, he was bad, but the Versailles Treaty and all that led to Hitler coming to power.

He can read too many telephs and control Hitler, but nudged him and funded him early on to have a new enemy. Alex, I mean, the line of this isn't real history. Yeah. But what he's doing is it relates to the Rothschilds. He's a textbook anti-Semitism, and his denial of that really doesn't matter. They don't teach the Rothschilds share it water-loo at the academic level, unless you're studying to be a Nazi. Yeah.

Is there an academic level? The sending ass shit is what they teach at the graduate level. I mean, the black hand didn't assassinate Franz Ferdinand, and all the rest of the shit is just bogus fake history. We went over pretty much all of this when we covered the film endgame So if you want to hear more about that, it's all there. I'm amazed really that people Like I don't think in this in this one space truly. I don't believe it is anybody's fault Not Alex's that he does not know the accurate any accurate history of this time period

I mean, you know if you're like a 60 year old dude, you have to stop and think how many documentaries and shit on World War II and World War I have I watched. A number. You know, like average for a 60 year old white guy, a million. There are a bunch. Yeah. How could you even keep straight in your mind

what facts are and are not true anymore now imagine That your values about 50 and for most of your life. Oh your whole life was just one of those documentaries You've been really beholden to news sources that really want to excuse Hitler. They really love them. Yeah Now think about how skewed your version of history. Tough, tough to view it accurately. Crypto not season. Shit. Anyway, Alex Rambles some more about world history here. And then Kurt, accurate work.

Kurt comes in with something that really scares me. Okay. After World War I, the British Empire said, made a deal and even Teddy Roosevelt wrote about this. Uh, bully. It was, uh, Churchill, Winston Churchill wrote the three volume set, the histories of the British speaking peoples. Yeah.

He was half American. Set up there. He says in there, we came over at World War One, we set up the CFR, we merged British intelligence with US intelligence. Right. And then that is the angle American empire. They call it themselves and Putin says, I'm fighting the angle American elite. I have no problems with the Americans.

He said, I have a problem with your Anglo-American oligarchs. He calls us the Anglo-Americans, and who are they? The Anglo-Americans come from a north tribe that later became William the Conqueror and took over France, and they came and took over England. So if you go back to all of this, they take the name of William the Conqueror's group from a thousand years ago. Alex, have you seen, I didn't believe it. If you ever see it, there's a movie about the Roth Childs, that's black and white. That's made by them to promote them. And it looks

like something Hitler made to smear them. So, maybe we put two and two together. Yeah, I think they made it, but it looks like they did make it. It's crazy if you have it, you buy it. So Alex's history is all over the place and kind of meaningless to break down, but those guys sure do love Putin. Yeah. I'm getting the sense that maybe they actually love Putin more than their anti-war guys.

But who's to say? Who's to say really? What the fuck is going on? I don't know. How is Putin popular? I don't know. I don't understand. Well, maybe a directionless rage plays into that too.

Yeah, you're probably right there. So I'm gonna give Kurt Metzger an amazing and undeserved benefit of the doubt and say that maybe he's talking about the American film, The House of Roth Child, which was not made by The Roth Child. But was created as an anti-Nazi film in 1934 and presents The Roth Child's family in a positive light.

Okay. It doesn't, however, look like Nazi propaganda. And if Curtis suggesting that the film he saw seemed like that, I think he might have seen The Nazi Prop film the Rothschild Chair at Waterloo. I'm not sure. It sounds more likely. But it's hard to say. I further suspect this, because that film includes the story that Alex just told, whereas

the American one doesn't. So that kind of seems like trouble. That's important. So that film, the Nazi one, came out in 1940, but was also in black and white. So the only way I can really figure out if we could get to the bottom of this is if Kurt said what language the movie was in. He doesn't say that. So if it's German, that's Nazi shit. Well, if it's in English, then it's the Houses of Rothschild. Hmm, probably. I find it hard to believe that a man can say, it looks like Nazi propaganda without going,

maybe it's Nazi propaganda. That one's, that one's it didn't even occur to him. He thought it, well, but he's a, he's, he's lifein' about it because he's a humorist. He's a bad man. So now the topic shifts to immigration. Great. I was, I'm, no, no, I'm looking forward

to their interesting discussion on how people should immigrate to places. Great. I was I'm no no I'm looking forward to their interesting discussion on how people should immigrate to places. Sure. Yeah. I wanted to just touch on the immigration problem because I've totally flipped on this. Is there an immigration problem? And I was always more immigrants to better which I still love immigrants where all country of immigrants. You should just stop there. But I noticed that it's being in this situation, it's being manipulated. And I couldn't really put my finger on why, uh, why are they having an open border and what, what, which they are. And right now you have, uh, cities, uh, Eric Adams in New York is screaming

that their whole city is going to going down the toilet because they can't handle the influx of all these immigrants that are coming to the his city. It used to be a sanctuary city and now he's trying to find a way to get them to stop but they're not stopping. And I was sitting to dip Durbin, he was a senator from my old home state, Illinois, and listening to what he says, here's one of the reasons why they want to get as many immigrants as they can in here. Watch this.

The resigning officer, my colleague from the state of Illinois has legislation which addresses one aspect to that. Her bill, and I hope I describe it accurately, says that if you are an undocumented person in this country, and you can pass the physical and the required test, background test, the like, you can serve in our country, and you can pass the physical and the background test, the like. You can serve in our military, and if you do it honorably, we will make you citizens of the United States. Do we need that?

Do you know what the recruiting numbers are? At the Army, and the Navy, and the Air Force? They can't reach their quotas each month. They can't find enough people to join our military forces. And they're those who are undocumented who want the chance to serve and risk their lives through this country. They don't want to serve in their own military in their own country. They want to go to a forward country and serve in their military. This is quite a...

A mercenary. Yeah, this is kind of how this is all romended. No, and what? So this, so he's giving the game away there. He says it right out in the open. We have to fill our military with foreigners like your cops and our forms and and and and and have our our our farm workers have to have them be our medical workers and our military and have a be our cops.

I'm not sure what the issue is here at least not for Jimmy. I understand that Alex is a xenophobic racist and sees any erosion of white control on power or white power as a threat to himself, but with Jimmy that doesn't quite make sense. I don't understand. I guess if I'm to be as generous as possible then this must be coming from his stated anti-war position. He must not like this because we don't need any more soldiers since we shouldn't be fighting in all these wars.

But in that case, this is a military-sized issue, not an immigration issue, and Jimmy said that he flipped on his position on immigration, which is where this idea started. Jimmy used to think that more immigrants coming in the better, but now he doesn't. He hasn't specified what his actual position is, but the change in thinking has something to do with offering immigrants paths to citizenship that involves signing up for military service. I don't know, but maybe I'm small-minded, but I have a tough time seeing away this shift in position isn't really just impkatering to the audience he's carved out by hanging out with folks like Tucker Carlson.

I don't know. Why would... Here's the only reason you can have an opinion on that is because you watch starship troopers Or you read starship troopers and you either agree with the movie you watched or you the book that you read so either you go This is dystopic fucked up shit, or you go. Yeah, we should really kill immigrants like there's only two ways to go Don't you worry. We'll get plenty of sci-fi movies later. I know. I know. I don't know as much about exactly what Dick Durbin was suggesting because typically a lot of these folks who have tried to get these bills passed for various you know, various like police jobs and stuff. It's for resident non-citizens. Yeah. It's not for undocumented immigrants.

I'm not sure if he misspoke or if that is actually what the bill is. Sure. But either way, it doesn't matter. I don't understand what Jimmy's point is. And it is just a, hey, let's kick the door. Pun. Nice. Let's kick the door open for some fucking racism. All right. Well, I can tell you exactly what's going on.

And you're dead on. Look, there is you in documents before that, there's a 100 year old Cololargy plan in Europe. And the royalty got together and they said, our people are too uppity. But if we bring in general federal populations that we control and that we put on government jobs, government assistance, it'll be a new Praetorian guard for us, but it's worse than that. If you go back to the lockdowns that only went on for

like a year and a half here or in Europe or Australia, they went on under IMF World Bank control over those countries that are in deep debt to the central banks. They were under two, two and a half, three year lockdowns and they did big polls of the migrants. And they said, there's no jobs, the farms are shut, the factories are shut, I'm starving to death. I've got to come here. So there are victims of globalism being shut down. And yeah, big polls.

That makes sense. So pure and simple, Alex is regurgitating white nationalist talking points. He whipped out the callurgi plan reference real fast. That was interesting because man, he doesn't use that name much. I think that Alex knows on some level that using that name, the Kallurgi plan, is kind of signifying pretty clearly that you're a white nationalist or white nationalist adjacent and I guess he's fine doing that here.

I have a strong suspicion that what's going on is that Alex is subtly testing Jimmy. Alex very seldom uses that name, even when discussing his immigration-related conspiracies, so it seems to me that this might be a bit of a trial balloon. If Jimmy shows awareness of this name, and actually Kurt seems to, then maybe they're on the same team as Alex. If Jimmy doesn't push back on him when he brings it up, Alex at very least has learned that he's talking to someone who has no idea about the history of these ideas that they're discussing, so he has free reign to just say whatever he wants. There's no such thing as the Colergy Plan. Richard von Kudenhoff Colergy wrote a book called Practical Idealism, which speculated that in the future, distinctions between ethnic groups would disappear as cultures intermingled. Right. This was repurposed by Nazis and white supremacists as being indicative of a planned force and

non-white immigration in two peoples to destroy the white race through forced intermingling. Right. In his text, Colergy is wrestling with the differences in different sorts of population. Rural versus city dwellers, the Junker versus the Liderati, the gentleman versus the Bohemian. And in this particular section, the in-bred versus the cross-bred. Hey, good work, buddy. Not great stuff all around. Nice timing.

To be honest, you're gonna be great. So in that section, he says, quote, truthful people are always silent, because every claim is, in a sense, a lie. Pure-hearted people are always inactive, because every act is, in a sense, wrong. Okay. Bravely.

But to speak, when the risk is a lie, to do and to act risks in justice Little poetic Still a quote okay in breeding strengthens the character weekens the spirit what crossbreeding weakens the character Strengthens the mind what we're in breeding and crossbreeding meat under happy auspices They bear witness to the highest type of human being, the strongest character combines with the sharpest mind. We're inbreeding and mixture come together under unfortunate ospices, they create degenerative types of weak character and dull mind.

Man will be hybrid in the distant future. Today's races are increasingly falling victim to the fact that space, time, and prejudice are being overcome. The Eurasian, Negro-yred race of the future, outwardly similar to the ancient Egyptian, will replace the diversity of peoples with a variety of personalities. So anyway, clergy sucks, but in a different way than Alex and his wife's supremacist buddies say, there's also no clergy plane, and I would bet anything Alex doesn't even know the name of that text, practical idealism.

It's just a Nazi meme that he likes to spout well. He waddles around pretending to be an intellectual. Yeah. Well, there was no real lockdown here. And it definitely didn't last a year and a half. Yeah. Certainly didn't last three, four years in these unspecified other countries either. So weird, Alex never specific about it. That's like, well, almost like he's like riffing on vibes. Yeah. Yeah. That guy should never have learned about those pea pods and how they braid and stuff. That was a bad move. Sean, I've gotten into the Mendelovian. If we should all have just been like, maybe let's not mess with it.

Maybe let's not mess with it. Because sooner or later some assholes gonna have some real bad ideas. And then here we are. And right about it, very flowery languagey. Wow! I mostly kept that part where it, because I thought it would annoy you. You thought it would kill me, man did it did it broke my heart. Yes So anyway, Alex weaves from this to a pretty racist conspiracy area all these blue cities have passed laws free

Legals to vote in local elections. They're under why we already what organizers? They're told how to vote now they get fast-tracked in the military They purge the military with the shots and critical race theory. What? And so all the professionals get out. Critical race, they're going to replace it with the domestic security force that Obama talked about that's just as big and just as strong as our military. And Illinois and other states are passing laws to have illegal aliens, as your co-host

said, be the police. So use you nailed it. History doesn't just rhyme. It repeats Rome started doing this. And in a couple hundred years, they collapsed because the enforcers they brought and said, hey, we're the bosses. Well, this won't take hundreds of years. So we talked about this on a recent show, but all these blue cities aren't legalizing

undocumented immigrants voting in local elections. There are a couple of places that have made it so non-citizen permanent residents can vote in things like the school board election where their kids go to school. Racist line number one. These non-citizen residents are not under this way of community organizers who tell them how to vote for school board elections. Racist line number two. No one's getting fast-tracked to the military. Racist line number three. What, what does that even mean? I don't know. They aren't purging the military through vaccines

and critical race theory to remove the professionals so they can be replaced by immigrants. Racist line number four. How would you purge the military with critical race theory? Just as your only tool, all right. All, all, you've got a military, let's, let's video game this, right? You got a military, 15% needs purging.

All right, your only tool, critical race theory. How do you do it? Um, I, I don't, damn it. I can't pull a good reference, but you just chase people around the room with a book. I guess by one of the people who wrote about critical race. all right, so you start with the TV show ghost writer. Yes, all right sure Yeah, yeah, no, I don't know. I mean, it's just buzzwords. Yeah, Obama's domestic force was stuff like the peace corps Wasn't that like a police and military

Like volunteer to help at grocery stores sometimes I guess that's just the propaganda narrative that Alex is fraudulently been peddling for a decade. Racist line number five. Yeah. No one is passing laws to allow undocumented immigrants to be police. There are conversations about how it makes some sense to allow non-citizen permitted residents to be allowed to pursue careers in law enforcement. It's a very different thing. Racist line number six. Yeah. As you can see in that short 45 second clip, Alex spews out six distinct lies that are all based on fake racist and xenophobic propaganda. This is what his entire point is based on, and all Curtin Jimmy can do is impotently nod along and let their audience digest this as if it's real. This is either an indication that they're dangerously ill equipped to have the conversations

that they're having, or they belong on fucking info wars. So that's the same thing. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just so confused by the show aspect of this. Yeah. I think that's what keeps, that's what I keep coming back to is like, okay, I'm fine with the idea that they've got Alex on to do the, the thing, you know, I'm fine with the idea that they've got Alex on to do the thing, you know, I'm not understanding how it is that you're supposed to be Jimmy Doer and Kurt Metzger and your best show is like yeah, I don't know if this is their best show I mean it looks it looks like they're doing their best

I don't see a lot of effort being exerted. Yeah, I think that might be our problem. That is true Yeah, you know what though you let Alex come in you let him carry it. Is that with the ball of energy? Is this their is this their off day? Are they taking the day off? They're like oh, we got Alex in so I can rest my voice. They're all drinking tea and shit Maybe maybe so we get to climate change. Why why not? Okay, and this is lowering the standards Not helping the third world, but lowering them and lowering us again. So no one can aspire to the big carbon footprint. Osterity is good. Humans are bad. Cows are evil. We've got to get rid of them. The cowfarts are bad. Well, we fart too. And I said that years ago, I said, when they're done going out of the cows,

which they've started, the other ones is getting rid of a bunch. Ireland, you name it, Sri Lanka, massive star. Ireland, high-exing Sri Lanka. Notice what they said. Next will be our breath is bad. Wall Street Journal, New York Times, USA Today, London Guardian, all two weeks ago, sitting. London Guardian.

Breathing is bad for the earth. No. The gases we puthing is bad for the earth. No. Yeah. The gases we put off hold actually in the sun. They they were off-gassing into space. We have hold in the sun. That's the point. You can debate this all day, but they know that's how it works. So now they've officially said breathing is bad.

Well, Wales breathe, dolphins breathe, chipmunks breathe, birds breathe, lizards breathe. If five more examples, imagine the mania, two men can have a baby. There are no longer why an X chromosome. Three men can have a baby. The science guy teaches that officially. Your breath is evil. Also human forts, they all say about human farting, not just cows. Right.

You have to buy fart credits. Yeah, Kurt, we heard. I have fart all this time for the year. And I know this is all exhausting folks, but that's why I'm so freaked out. Can't believe you talked over comedy happening. Yeah. Yes, fart credits for the year.

Good stuff. So this Jimmy and Kurt are on the side of climate change being a hoax. Yes. That's what Alex is telling them. There's life and all on. What are you even doing now? I don't know. Yeah, good stuff. So I guess Jimmy and Kurt are on the side of climate change being a hoax. Yes That's what Alex is telling them that there's life and I'm even doing now. I don't know So Alex's hold they're saying breathing this bad is based on a daily male headlining skimmed Which is about an article published in the PLOS one journal titled quote measurements of methane and nitrous oxide in human breath and the development of UK scale emissions The aim of this study was to get an idea of the scale of human breath emissions by assessing 104 volunteers.

One part of it was looking at emissions, but another part was seeing if there was any difference between demographic groups or between people who had different dietary patterns. They found no differences between these groups that was significant. Ultimately, here's what their conclusion found. Quote, well, emissions of CH4 and N2O account for only 0.05 and 0.1% of total emissions in the UK National greenhouse gas inventory respectively, we would urge caution that the assumption that emissions from humans are negligible. We report only emissions in breath in this study and flakish emissions are likely to increase these values significantly, though no literature characterizes these emissions for people in the UK.

Assuming that livestock and other wild animals also exhale emissions of N2O, there may be a small but significant unaccounted foresource of N2O emissions in the UK, which could account for more than 1% of national scale emissions. Naturally, there were ton of publications that are desperate for clicks like the Daily Mail, so they really zeroed in on that line, quote, we would urge caution in the assumption that emissions from humans are negligible, because that's the part that drives attention cycles for climate denying fabulous like Alex, which in turn drives traffic to their sensational ass articles. Even at their highest estimate, they're saying around 1% of national emissions may come

from human exhalation, which isn't a significant thing. Human breathing is, first of all, necessary to life, whereas burning fossil fuels is not strictly speaking necessary. In theory, human CO2 production is almost exactly offset by the amount of CO2 we take in in the form of the products of photosynthesis, like plants and animals that were fed with plants. There's a difference between CO2 emissions, which aren't necessarily bad, and excessive CO2 emissions, which are bad.

Alex knows there's a difference between those two, but he uses sensationalized and inaccurate coverage of daily male articles like this in order to blur those lines to the audience, because if they understood the difference, they'd probably see through his ridiculous fars of an argument. So I guess Jimmy and Kurt don't believe in climate change, and it sounds like they're on board for trans people not existing But pretty difficult to find any position that Jimmy has that's even remotely close to any kind of left politics that I recognize He's kind of just a Trump guy who doesn't want to be called that. Oh, man. I mean maybe maybe he has some progressive thoughts on Rome's government that we

Oh, that you're looking over you know, like he's like, oh, I wish Rome had been more progressive. And so it's since they weren't Trump. That makes sense. Well, the thing was great about Rome's government was that they weren't bogged down by this climate change, rigging the role red tape hoax. Oh my god. You know what I'm saying? I appreciate, because here's what I didn't see it coming it coming all right I appreciate that the climate deniers are still hanging on 2003 2005, you know, you got people bringing snowballs into the Congress That was cool and you go wow I bet this will be fine 20 years from now when we all are like ha ha ha That guy's stupid, but now they're just like ah

We're gonna bring a snowball everywhere. That's what they are. They just do that till we all die I'm fine with that and then Fox News will have a little video of us. Yeah. They'll be like, remember these. Remember snowballs? So nice. Alex continues with his climate stuff and it leads a predictable place. Sure. I know about this 40 years because I had family that told me about it from the inside. And now I'm just some guy up here trying to warn people. I'm not perfect. I'm just talking about the weather. Jimmy's not the threat. Hunter curls is not the threat. We at least know we live here. We at least know that you can't have nuclear reactors, almost all of them leaking while you cut off all the cold power. Alex was paused and was a little confused

there because he doesn't really know if he should be pro or anti nuclear power. Um, yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm interested to know where they stand on that because I feel like they flip flop off a lot. He is very against cutting off nuclear power plants in his book, but he didn't write that book. So I'm not sure with Alex. No, that'll happen.

We know the ship is sinking and they think they're going to sink it with the great reset and then build back better their new system. And so again, I'll plug it because they're trying to shut me down. I need the funds and I appreciate it. Let me do it. Plus, these are really good books. This one to number one. New York Times would put it in their best cell.

But with the number one Wall Street Journal, USA Day list, this book has been the top of the charts. It's part two. It's twice as thick. You've got the Death Star plans, the great reset and the war for the world. And then you've got the great awakening defeating the globalists. This gets into it. And this lays out an alternate team humanity program. I was on with Elon Musk again, a few weeks ago for two and a half hours. Oh, yeah. And he said, yeah, the global 20 populates, they want to destroy civilization. We may never be able to restart it. Once they cut it off, fossil fuels aren't perfect. We need to phase them out, but they're a bridge. It'll take decades to do it. What they're doing now, I hooked

the numbers. This is Elon Musk. We'll cause billions to starve to death and that'll cause giant wars. That sounds like you. He's an idiot. And so I call this team humanity versus team death cult. And he said, I agree. Let's call it team humanity. Well, team humanity is in this book. And I hope people go to info wars store.com and get it. So I really hope this is just paid programming

and Jimmy got money to do this interview. But otherwise he looks like a fucking idiot getting steamroll. He better be getting paid for this. Also because it's fun Alex's book never made it on any bestseller list. It was at the top of Amazon for a short period of time but quickly dropped. As for his new book, Alex has been complaining on air that he can't even sell the first run that he ordered. So I imagine people just didn't want a book that was twice as thick. Like if you're using the first one to level out your coffee table, a thicker book will just put it out of balance again.

You know, it's not wise. Just because I'm petty, I went back and I looked at the Wall Street Journal's best seller list because that's what Alex brought up. Yes. They've recently stopped that feature, but Alex's great reset came out in August 20th, 2022. So that's in a time period where the sales were covered. You can look at it. That week, spell jammer adventures in space

top the hardcover nonfiction list. Visit to the coast. Okay. But Tim Scott and Paul Manafort hit titles in the top 10. So it's clear there's no political slant against conservatives. Wait, they put like dungeon strategy guy? It's like the hardcover nonfiction section. Well, yeah, no, I had, I mean, yeah, that's cool.

That's cool. I had I just had all the best other lists too. And I think some might, yeah, compartmentalize it off to a list. No, but I think that's cool. And I think it's deserved. That's what I think. Yeah. So the next week, still no Alex. But Jared Kushner's book, Breaking History, a White House memoir was number one. And the hardcore, a hard-covered nonfiction. So it looks like there's no squashing of trump voices here. Jared Kushner. Hey, wrote a book. Wow. So then on September 3rd, Alex finally pops in at number two behind Jeanette McCurdy's book.

I'm glad my mom died. Hmm. The next week September 10th, so Alex should have some kind of like really good pre-9-11 buzz going. Sure. But oops, he dropped down to number nine then disappeared from the list altogether. He had that little blip because every audience member he had that was going to buy the book bought it at the same time and it was good enough for number two. That's a kind of unbalanced path that really doesn't indicate that much global interest

in the piece of media, which you can compare with something like McCurdy's book. By January 2023, she was still at number three, and her book had been released two weeks before Alex's. That was a genuine hit, whereas Alex's book was a desperate cash grab that he didn't even write, and the sales figures represent that. The second reason his book didn't make any of those lists isn't because of censorship, but probably because people bought the first one and they were underwhelmed with the second book.

Yeah, that's tough. That book sucked. And Alex's information isn't that interesting when a cooked out weirdo isn't yelling it at you. That really goes a long way towards making any of this palatable. It really does. Yeah. It really does. You didn't even read his book. I don't need to. So you don't even know the difference. Don't even know how bad it is. I read one sentence from a distance. Yep. Yep. So Alex, he has his book. Sure. He's showing it. He's showing the book and Jimmy catches a little something Uh-oh. Who is the co-author of that great awakening? Uh-oh. Kit, heaven live, heckin lively, great guy. I mean what happened is I recorded a bunch of stuff

Cave of hundreds of articles and documents, really thousands. It was eight hundred years long when I'd written it I said it like, and they're lawyers. He's a lawyer too. Cause you know, I'm Alex Jones. They fact-checked everything. And there was one thing I put in the book. Wait a second. We had a positive for a second. Yeah. Alex is saying they had,

they checked it over because I'm Alex Jones. Yeah. He's recognizing that no one believes his shit. No one believes the thing I said. Right. They had to double check it, because it's me. Cause I'm Alex Jones.

And they even twice as right as I knew it always was. That's interesting that they couldn't prove. It was theoretical. The story of you put fleas in a jar and they learned they can't jump out of it. And then once you take them out of the jar, they never jump higher than the jar. And I thought it was a good allegory, but I put it in the book like it was true. Turned out no one can prove it ever happened, but it's a good theoretical analogy. That was the one thing out of 800 pages. Uh, definitely do you mean type of proof? Everything else they vetted everything. Of course, that got cut from the book. Yeah.

Uh, but it got cut to 400 pages. Uh, but this is just kind of stream of consciousness. Alex Jones, a great awakening. And this is what I actually say. A lot of people are going to watch this millions. I bet 10 million. I got to pause it again, because I didn't realize when I first was listening through this you're saying that that flea story is the one thing Like I cut out of the book. Yeah, but also 400 pages got cut. What else was in there? No, he said it was 400 pages No, he said it was 800 pages when he gave it to Kent. No shit. That's what he said. Oh, but that doesn't count That was all printed out articles that fucking Oh, he is just rambling Audio notes But but still that's 400 pages worth of stuff and I guarantee there's other complete bullshit that was in there

Yeah, if you consider what kind of bullshit made it in holy shit the cutting room floor is gotta be bad I don't want to be there. No, no people watch this the next week and they're say, I never knew this guy talked about all this because all they see, and then they're going to do this. They're going to take, they're going to take me talking about Willie Nelson spit. And that'll be the story. Instead of, you know, Zuckerberg and the W E F say, we're going to control you in the workplace reading your thoughts. I mean, people should know that they're collectively building a digital prison. We're already in it. Man, Alex can't finish a thought. I paused it a little bit, so it probably took away some

of the ways that felt like this is just jumping from A to B to C to D. He's in mid-season form, and that by that I mean, he's high on something. Yeah. I have a strong suspicion that Jimmy asked Alex about Kent because he knows who Kent is, and Jimmy may have wanted to talk some COVID vaccine conspiracies, but instead here we go and Alex is off to the races. Because I can't hit him lively. Yeah, it's co-writer with Judy.

You might have a vaccine and they're there. Yeah, so there's so much untrue stuff in Alex's book. The idea that a legal team vetited is hilarious number one. And the idea that the only thing they couldn't stand behind was some dumb shit about a flea jumping. That's just amazing. You can find my book length breakdown of Alex's stupid book and the things he's very wrong and lying about at Alex Jones is an idiot.com. Also because I'm petty can't wrote those books, many times slipping into the first person and saying

things Alex would absolutely never say. It's a sloppy mess of a book desperate for an author. Yeah. Also because I'm very petty, Alex is a little bit off, and his prediction for how many people would watch Jimmy's interview. As of this recording, a week after it was posted to Jimmy's YouTube page, it has 474,000 views. Not bad. That's significant. That's a lot more than I would hope.

But significantly lower than Alex's prediction and a ton of Jimmy's videos, like the 727,000 that is interviewed with Tucker God. Yeah. And because I'm insanely petty, here is the oldest clip, or a clip from the oldest video on Jimmy Doors channel where he's making fun of somebody who is a climate denier. Uh, right now we're going to talk about, so you know how the, oh my God goes, I play something from religious nut and then we make fun of it. This is from Brian Fisher. We've had him on the show before Brian Fisher. He's the director of issues analysis

of the conservative fundamentalist American family as whole association. And on Thursday, he had an expert to come on to talk about fossil fuels and here, let's have some fun. Here we go. Let me just connect that to a biblical parable. The parable of the talents

uh... you know the the unfaithful steward uh... the wicked and lazy steward as as the master calls him was the one who buried his talent in the ground and didn't do anything with it to multiply it uh... that's essentially what those who say we need to stop using oil and a call a natural gas are telling us to do. Just leave those resources buried in the ground rather than pulling them out and multiplying their value for human benefit. Yeah, that's what they're saying because when you pull them out of the ground for human

benefit, it releases carbon into the air and causes climate change, and it's a real dirty way to create energy. That would be why. The guy who's saying stuff. I see, ever been funny. But that's also the guy who's saying stuff that Alex believes. Yeah, I mean, well, yeah. That's very similar, almost identical, actually,

to what Alex believes. I think I've heard him say something almost identical. And it's very close to the thing that Alex just said in, but how we need to off-gas. Yep. And all of this stuff, he just didn't go as far as his, maybe he would say in another place,

which is God put it there for us to find to terraform, or, you know, what's he called? Terraform. Yeah. In order to save the world by burning excess CO2. So anyway, maybe Alex's position is actually dumber than the one that is in this oldest clip on Jimmy's YouTube channel. Yeah. Yeah, man. That's dark.

Time is a mean mother. Yeah, but it does prove you don't get funnier. So yeah, you're what Simbad's quote is always going to you're funnier when you ride the bus. Simbad's always going to be right about that. Yep, yep. Praise. What? What was that? I was being given it up to Simba.

Okay, yeah. So Alex gives it up to Jimmy. Okay. And himself by extension. Sure. Because they're both like right all the time. And they always provide sources for things. Jimmy just showed everything he said.

He showed you a clip or an article and I try to do the same thing on my show and maybe our interpretations wrong. The point is we're right about more than we're wrong. I would say I watch your show all the time 95% accurate I'm 95% accurate and that's really a pretty accurate number folks because stuff so wild, I wouldn't even need to think about making stuff up. I mean, here's a quick example. Three years ago, Bill Gates falls a patent for this nanotech that puts little microscopic spikes into your skin to track you and or deliver vaccines. They had articles saying it wasn't true, and they weren't planning that, even though it was official. He came out last week and officially said they're launching the technology, but spun it like

it's no big deal. And he says, the other thing is we're going to put vaccines in your food. So you basically will comply because you own it. No, any better. Like a cow. So, so again, this, this is what? Max, I went to all told us about it. So yeah, he did and he did Bill Gates was talking about putting mRNA Into our plants and so you don't have to worry about vaccines. That's what he was saying That's not what I'm saying So I'm glad these guys are so research and they're so in the ball and write all the time like 95%

So very accurate number it makes it really reassuring to listen to them because I know they're really good at this and and ball and right all the time. Like 95% is a very accurate number. It makes it really reassuring to listen to them, because I know they're really good at this and they're right all the time, and they're basing their points on facts. So I can just turn off my brain and critical thinking skills. I can just trust that they have it covered and really enjoy myself.

What's this now? Bill Gates wants to put mRNA into the food. Better look into this one. It's a little too serious to take just on faith. Oh my God, I googled it and I found this tweet that Bill Gates posted that says quote vaccines in our foods supplies solves the problem of vaccine hesitancy. Oh my god he does want to put mRNA in our food. That's what the image of this tweet says. This picture

it says quote Bill Gates vows to pump mRNA into food supply to force jab the unvaccinated. It's certainly written like the fact similarly of actual headline, so I probably should believe it. Oh, wait, it's a fake tweet that someone photoshopped that's circulating on right-wing social media. Oh, man, this is just a link to an article on Robert Malone's insane sub-stack. Ah, shit. Looks like maybe Jimmy didn't have a source on this one. I'm sure he's, like, 95 percent right. This is just one of those few cases that he, you know, it's not.

To the extent that any of this has any connection to reality There are promising potentials in mRNA technology in terms of livestock vaccinations There's no way that that could then vaccinate you by eating vaccinated animals though. That's stupid But then again clearly Jimmy's pretty stupid this happens all the time like a couple months back gates It invented quote an air vaccine to force of vacc people. But guess what, that was bullshit too. But this information economy relies on a constant flow of scary and exciting claims to survive, so it will never stop.

Also, Alex is making up that stuff about Bill Gates getting a patent for like an Anotex spikes. This was a patent, it was numbered 060606, which is actually 6666, which of course is the devil. Alex's example for how everything is so crazy that he doesn't need to make things up is, in fact, oh, made up thing. Yeah. Which is poetry.

E. Yeah, I think it's appropriate. Yeah. Yeah. Appropriate, um, pity. I am amazed. I'm amazed that, like, despite the fact that they know they don't know anything about science. Like, I know I don't know anything about science. I'm not acting like, oh, they're putting

mRNA in the, I don't know fundamentally what that means. Like, they're putting mRNA in a thing. You cannot explain to me what that means in a way that will make it mean something. Right. Like, mRNA is what? Are you talking about the type of RNA? Are you talking about a vaccine? What vaccine? What chemicals?

The chemical is going to then interact. Does it give me antibodies? Does it not give me antibodies? Is it ingestible? Is it through the skin? Like, none of what you say means anything. Number one, it's tasty number two now Now we're talking so in their world

They are of the belief that these cows or animals can be given some sort of an mRNA thing that will alter their DNA Right, and then make it so when you eat them it will also alter your DNA, right? All the shit. It's all a lot of shit. It's all, I get what you're saying though. Like I also don't understand science on the deep level that a scientist does. And I understand that and typically a lot of my understanding about these things has to do with you made a claim. I'm going to follow it up.

Yeah. I'm going to go wherever you're pointing to and I'm gonna follow it up. Yeah. I'm gonna go wherever you're pointing to and see what the shit is there. Right. And I can say fairly confidently that I have no faith in their understanding of anything. Yeah. That's good enough.

See, at the moment. But for me, for me, that's where I get so mad at them. All right, is because if you're going to invent science and Then use it dumbly that makes that bums me out right? Okay, so if you're saying that they can Give mr&h to a cow which will alter its DNA and then us and then us eating that cow will alter our DNA Yeah, all right now. I don't give a fuck about vaccines at that point you have introduced the power to Feed a cow something that will alter its DNA and then I will have my DNA altered you have just entered into a realm of

I should be able to glow now right now. I want to glow. It is a bit magical. I don't glow fuck you Put that on your I don't glow fuck you put that on your That is my argument for vaccines I can't glow. I just saw a clip the other day of Brett Weinstein the professor who got mad at the like no white people on campus day thing sure They became a right-wing celebrity. Yeah, he you know, he's a big COVID vaccine Opponent now. Yeah, I mean yeah, you fall into a gig like that. You know, he was just on Tucker and you were saying 17 million people have been killed by the COVID vaccine.

17 million. We're remarkable. That's that really should, like if you're a scientist, when you say that, you should get to mug to the camera. Like there should be a moment where you turn and you're like 17 million, aren't I a stinker? Cause like, you're foolish. You know you're foolish.

You kinda have to. You know. Kinda have to know that. You know. Yeah. So we have this next clip goes into the antivax. So it's appropriate, I guess. Sure.

I'm gonna give a trigger warning in advance of this clip. Cause Alex yells the word rape repeatedly and it's unpleasant and I Don't care for it much, but the underlying point that he's making is something that's worth talking about. I was on Joe Rogan a few years ago and I said the majority of polio is caused by the polio vaccine and Joe said Alex. I'm fat checking that right now. That's, I can't believe it. Pulls up AP Reuters headline. Again, I'm not saying rape is good of children. It's terrible. It's horrible.

We fight it all the time. But if I was a child, I would rather be raped, than be given polio and paralyzed for life or killed. So they're raping people with stuff that's killing them. So this is rape and the UN tree to take over our bodies and our medical system is rape and systems to scan our brains at the office is invasion of privacy and rape. If your boss wanted to stick their finger up your butt, you would, he would go to jail. He, he would be sued. But if they want to stick their fingers in your brain, it's okay. Well, I think I, I think I have to say that the polio vaccine

curd is safe and effective. And all vaccines are all vaccine, especially the cold of vaccine spray. And it certainly does slow the spread. look at it add does Actually, yeah, it's all no one search engine Majority of New polio cases caused by vaccine. That's not that's that's true But you you're right. You can't even say stuff. It's true because we're not a doctor Fouchy. Oh man, so I guess Jimmy and Carter also totally anti-facts I didn't realize that I thought it was they just thought they just had some dumb COVID tyranny kind of thing, but I guess Jimmy is just gobbling this bullshit up and signing off on Alex is really dangerous and offensive rant.

That's really bad. Alex is so god damn full shit. Leaving aside the rank flippancy about rape, there's a little piece of information that he's conveniently not saying about the polio vaccine. In 1988, there were approximately 350,000 wild cases just that year in 125 countries. Because of the vaccine's wide availability, there were six reported cases of wild cases in 2021. There are only two countries in the world where there's still wild polio that's not been eradicated, which are Pakistan and Afghanistan, and even their cases are super uncommon. Thanks to vaccination programs. Alex

knows that he knows that the polio vaccination campaign is one of the greatest achievements of modern medicine. And he knows that this most cases are caused by the vaccine is a fraudulent talking point that he uses to attack vaccination. He knows that the words most cases are caused by vaccines is true, but he also knows damn well that he's lying by omitting the surrounding context, which he omits because it illustrates how wrong his overall point is. Also, in these cases where the vaccine is leading to a case of polio, it's often not the person who got vaccinated that is getting polio. The live weakened virus version of the vaccine can in some cases lead to people

spreading that weakened virus. And well vaccinated communities, this isn't a problem. However, to quote the polio eradication project, quote, in communities with low immunization rates, as the virus spreads from one unvaccinated child to another over a long period of time, often over the course of 12 to 18 months, it can mutate and take on a form that can cause paralysis just like the wild polio virus. This mutated polio virus can then spread in communities leading to circulating vaccine derived polio virus. This is not difficult to understand, which is why Alex lies about it the way he does.

Alex attacks the polio vaccine not because it's giving tons of people polio, but because it was so effective at protecting people from polio, particularly the people Alex would rather see dead, like folks in the developing world. Yeah. I understand where Alex is coming from and his lie is really transparent, but what the hell do Jimmy and Kurt think? Do they really think the polio vaccine is bad because in 2020 there were 959 reported cases of vaccine-derived polio in the whole world.

I find it difficult to really believe they don't understand this dynamic, so there's really only two options. The first is that they are fully committed to this anti-vaxx propaganda world, and they're comfortable lying about this stuff, the same way Alex is. The second is that there are the types of people

who are so irresponsible with information that they can hear someone say most polio cases are caused by the vaccine and have their mind blown to the point Where they don't read any further context or information to make up their mind. Yeah either way the shows fucking dumb and it's dumb in ways that I didn't even realize like I thought Jimmy was Kind of like it seemed weird to me the ways that he had presented himself as you know kind of this left lean and guy and then oh What's this he's showing up at like anti-mask rallies. Oh, what's this?

He's really mad at the schools. What's this? He's showing up on Tucker. You know, I thought there was some of this stuff that he was appealing to at different audience and it seemed like I understand the move. I got it. And I'm listening to this.

And he just seems to be signing off on like, so are the worst things that Alex is signing off on. You know, it's it's it's beyond what I thought the situation was. He seems like he's worse than I thought. Well, it makes me believe that there's a language that we're not hearing. You know what I mean? Like it makes me believe that some things going on that these people are listening to that we're not because I just can't get inside the head of a person who is responding to what Alex says. Like, genuinely, I genuinely feel like there. Like, Alex maybe speak here in the fridge.

I think the thing they're hearing that we're not is, ca-ching. Ah, maybe, maybe. Yeah. I'm sorry, I did me to. No, no, that's it. I mean, yeah, but even if that's what you're hearing, how do you respond to what Alex says like this?

With the words, you know? I don't know. Like, what do you feel like I want to know what they're actually what sounds hit their ears and turn into words because I don't know. I imagine that Jimmy Cisa like a broadening of his audience when he's doing like anti-vax content and that leads him to pursue more of that. I wouldn't be too surprised by that. I just didn't realize it was this much. Yeah. Like he's, I mean, in this interview to the extent that there's information about him, I'm not sure what his landing point is on to,

but he's turned his position on immigration. Yeah. It seems to be spouting anti-Semitic rough child conspiracy. Full on anti-vax. No, Vexy's period. Climate change, denialism at least tepid denialism not pushing back on anything Alex is saying.

Yeah, I don't know. I think he's much further down this road than I had imagined. Honestly. Yeah, yeah, that is and it's so strange with stuff that it seems like you simply can't go backwards on. You know, like if you were alive and politically active and aware when an idiot brought a snowball into Congress, and then now it's now, you can't be like, yeah, these people think you can't do that, you just can't.

You know, you just can't. But then again. You can lie about it, and if you lie about it, you should have to be in like a cordoned-off area like a Free speech zone, if you will and that should be on the moon. I mean uncomfortable reality is maybe we have to deal with the Possibility that he was lying before I mean, he was the person who spit in Alex's face. Yeah, that's true. I mean that's maybe this is more to where he I don't know I don't know. I don't know

I don't know the man. Maybe it's just people will people who do this okay People like Jimmy like Alex people who do the stuff Just are their miners they go to where them they go or the gold oh they might they're underage No, no, they yeah, they're they're go to where gold is, you know, they just follow the money. That's it. So I think a lot of people are that way. Yeah. And we're bad miners. I think that's what we're really dealing with.

I never aspired to be a miner. Yeah, I know. And maybe that's a mistake. Yeah. The miners are doing well right right now. So Alex, they, they, they, you brought up Fauci at the end there. Sure.

A little riffing on Fauci. A little Fauci. Doctor Fauci. You just there. Sure. Little riffin on Fauci, little Fauci. Dr. Fauci. Did you see the clip of him that resurfaced where he said, we're going to get passed all the BS. He said, be it, he spelled it out. He said, we're going to get past the BS by locking people down. And that'll teach him. And then they'll drop the BS, take the shot. It's all coercion people. And that's what bullying. it's all coercion people and that's what bullying. So, uh, yeah, I mean, I can't say anything that contradicts the FDA, the CDC or the WHO and that's not a million in democracy. Well, I went down on China, frankly, and I just freedom.

Man, these guys are having fun making money, saying all the things they're pretending they're not allowed to say, haha. Anyway, Alex's thing about how she isn't really accurate. So in an interview, we did with MSNBC, he said, quote, you use lockdowns to get people vaccinated so that when you open up, you won't have a huge surge of infections because you're dealing with an immunologically naive population to the virus

because they've not really been exposed because of lockdown. Oh, you're calling us stupid, aren't you? There's a difference between this and what Alex is claiming. But also, it's important to recognize that he was answering a direct question from Andrea Mitchell who said, quote, how concerning is the outbreak in China? It was part of a much longer answer that was critical

of China's zero COVID lockdown strategy. Essentially the opposite of what Alex is saying, when it's actually in its proper context, right? But it looks good, you know, it's enough. He is saying you use lockdowns to get people vaccinated. Boom. Butterbang. What do you got?

Fauci. You know what? I find so fascinating. What I find so fascinating is that right now we're in the second highest surge of COVID cases, reported COVID cases. And the government, as far as I can tell, is behaving exactly how Alex and them would want the government to behave, right? Like, there's just kind of that.

But that's why you attack more. No, but that's what I find interesting about that is that nobody, like, they're not going, oh, well, now is the time when we should be more aware of health. Like, if I- They're not being defiant in the way that you would expect if it's just always a knee jerk opposition.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. No, because it's a push further kind of opposition. It's an opposition in a different direction. I mean, yeah, it's like, well, this time we're doing nothing like you asked us to and you're still mad. And this doing nothing is actually secretly a plan to lock us back up again.

Yeah, that's at that point. Yeah. Yeah, man, where there's no escape. Do nothing. Do something. Doesn't matter. It is true. Well, yeah, I mean, I think so much of the context does surround the fact that it's been

years. Yeah. I think that that I don't, yeah. I think that that, I don't know. I don't know if, if the government did nothing to begin with, you know, I don't know if Alex's knee jerk reaction would be, hey, everyone needs to take this very serious right? It was for a minute, but I don't know if that would have been sustained. Who knows?

Yeah. No, I mean, that's, that's the, there's no going back to it now. Is what I'm saying? It's been years and what I, what I think I'm, what I'm listening to is maybe like for me, now is when the government really focusing on COVID and vaccines and all that stuff

would go a long way towards protecting against the next anti-vaxxer kind of thing. Now is when you have to do the grunt work when people aren't paying attention when everybody's not panicking all the time. I think you're probably right. Yeah. And it is an unfortunate reality though

that these people have cemented their views and The covid vaccine is the clot shot and all this stuff and and You know, they're just making up excuses to cover up for how everyone's dying because of the shot here listen to this The mRNA shot works perfectly. Yes It actually cures my car ditis M RNA shot works perfectly. Yes. It actually cures my car, Ditis. There, there might be science.

Climate change doing it, but they are rare. And it will keep you from getting seriously ill hospitalized. Do you hear that holiday heart? All the articles that everybody suddenly having heart attacks. It's quite normal. No, holiday heart. It's good.

It's probably from the holidays. That's what the Grinch got. The Grinch got with the end. He got the holiday. Oh, comedy is happening. I just have to show you the reach of Bill Gates the college with the Grinch got the Grinch got with the end. He got all the holiday. Comedy's happening. I just have to show you the reach of Bill Gates who funds the WHO and I'm on YouTube and Google and I'm not allowed to contradict them, which means I'm not allowed to contradict Bill Gates who's just a simple farmer. And so.

Bill Gates is my doctor. I love the fact that he used to sell crappy software and got busted for running them in Opholite and was loading stuff onto it to control. I mean, no, I want him So the term holiday heart was coined in 1978 to describe incidents of heart attacks that people had around the holidays that were directly related to heavy drinking. Alex is pretending this is a new thing that's meant to cover up COVID vaccine deaths because he's a fucking idiot. But these dudes the man they have an ablast you're asking like where their comedic riffing chops are gonna gonna be It's when the bill gates stuff starts. I find sarcasm to be best used when like very short bursts because if you do you because if you're trying to be sarcastic for a long sentence,

you're just complaining. You're not even being sarcastic. You're just complaining that you don't like things. Yeah, and yeah, and to be fair, I'll even point the finger back at myself earlier when I did that whole thing about Bill Gates wanted to put mRNA in our food and I pretended to be someone looking at it. No, that was a sustained. Yeah, there's a sustained.

It was a little bit too long. Sure, sure, but I mean, the problem is, in that situation, you're adopting a character and playing that character as a thing. The character was inconsistent, though, at best. That is fair. If we wanna have a, you know, I didn't do a bible on the character.

I didn't know who this person was. Right, right, right. It's the homework. The homework is the realest. The best I knew was a Bible on the character. I didn't know who this person was. Right, right, right. It's homework. The homework is the realest. The best I knew was a Jimmy Doyle listener. That was as far as it went. So look, yeah, here's where my notes end. Because this is where we couldn't listen it. It's crazy. Oh no, it's crazy for a while, and then I said, fuck you. Okay, but there's still a way to go. Oh my god. So, okay, I might not said did because I don't really care.

Okay. I'm taking this seriously. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're past that. There is the stuff about like Black Rock and you know, there are things that are real. Yeah. And then there's this.

Okay. And so this clips a little bit long and it needed to be because it begins with Jimmy's playing a clip of Tucker and strap it the fucking all right because so wait. So now on this show where it's not Alex's show, but we're listening to Alex. Uh-huh. It's not Tucker show, but we're listening to Tucker. Yeah. It is Jimmy Doorshow, but I still have to fucking hear Kurt Metzger.

I'm furious about this cast. Yeah, it's it's not good. It's a dream team. Um, it's not good. It's ain't the dream team. But this is about aliens. Oh, okay. So they are trying to hide it still. That's the fact. My own view is that these are not aliens. There's no evidence that they've come from somewhere else.

We would probably know. We've got a lot of technology that's watching what comes in on the atmosphere. And there's no evidence of that. I think they've been here forever. This is my view. I can't be proven. Center of the Earth.

A lot of conversations. The Center of the Earth. I think it's likely that the US government has had contact with these direct contact. And over a period of years, I find that really disturbing. Because I, you know, and a bunch of other things that are highly distressing, that I can't prove, and so I'm not going

to throw them out there, but I can, I'll tell you this, I've talked to a lot of people about this not because I've never been interested in UFOs until like five years ago, and I was like, wait, this is real, what is this? Why aren't we talking about this? I'm just like coming at it from a totally idiotic, I don't know anything curious position, which is my normal posture on everything. Yeah, yeah, that's usually it. And so I've talked to a lot of people. And my view is that there, you know, this is my opinion that there are things about this that are really disturbing. And while I hate any kind of government

secrecy, and if I could prove any of this, I would say immediately consequences be damned. I do sort of understand why they don't want to let this stuff out. It's not about, oh, we've got fragments of one of these crafts that have lucky, you know, facility in California, and we have biologics from the crowd. You know, everyone knows that that's likely true. It's certainly true that they have the, you know, pieces of this stuff. But I think it's likely that it's darker than that and that the US government is,

I said the US government, people in the US government, not the US government, but you know. There are parts of vast, it's the largest human and organization in history, parts of it, have knowledge that is very, very disturbing. And I personally think strongly think that there's a spiritual component to this, that I don't understand and will not pretend to understand. But I think it's very clear that there's

a spiritual component to this. That's one of the reasons the Vatican and I'm getting a not Catholic, but has been involved in this for over a hundred years as an observatory, etc. etc. I mean, it's pretty obvious that these are not men from Mars. And that I think that was a sigh up because I think the truth is a little bit wilder and has deeper implications just than that. So what do you think he's talking about there? He's shut up. Well, shut up.

I had to be really careful here because, you know, I'm friends with Tucker, hang out with him, Sean, you know, go hunt with him and shoot and go visit him and things like that. When Alex starts like that, you know that he's probably gonna say whatever he's not supposed to say. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a fact that you've got him to come up before it is sometime next month.

And I just love Tucker, love to death. He thought I was a psychopath 15 years ago for saying 9-11 was an inside job building seven. And then his children who were down college and stuff and went out of college, started bringing him stuff and saying, no, dad, this guy's pretty good. We like him. So he came to visit me. I love him 12 years ago and kind of halfway up, apologize. He said, I thought you were a sociopath and just saying all this stuff for ratings, but I found out you're really good guy. And I have a sociopath saying stuff for rating. Tucker has really listened to me a lot now. And it's also other people. And from my research

of the globalist and what they're really doing in DMT research in the 60s, 70s and 80s, and that also goes to a connection to a family friend who was the deputy head of a major psychedelic research group in San Francisco. Was it Wavy Gravy? I was about, when I first heard this, I was about seven years old on a trip. The back of my mom's Volkswagen Beetle with her and her friend. Oh, is the sheep. I have a sheep.

A week long trip with the girls to our additional details. Where they went. You know, the road trip. Check out all the cool sites there. Really beautiful there. And I'm sitting in the back with my etch and sketch and comic books. Let's listen to the story of all these details. Really reinforce how they're basically astronauts.

And they put them on DMT drips. This is before anybody was talking about DMT and they go in and they model this veil or the other dimensions that are there. And they then communicate with these entities and they come back and then write notes about it. And then I did later research once I grew up and knew about this. They also have volunteers where they actually stop the heart and kill people for a couple of minutes so that they can have these out of body experiences. Because what it is third dimensionally, they call it spiritual, that's what the ancients call it. Well, what the globalists actually believe what the evidence is, is there's 12 dimensions

we know about just in this verse versus multiverse. Ooh. Okay, so we got him okay So you this is I'm I'm a little bit distracted for a couple reasons. Yeah, I got bored of Alex Yeah, well that that'll happen So I'm thrilled to report that wavy gravy is still alive. Okay. I was wondering Mary to the same woman Since 1965 really yes almost almost 60 years of blissful matrimony I'm good for them.

Here's the other thing I learned. What was that? Their last name is Romney. Maybe related. I think they're part of the Romney family. If they are, that is perhaps the final nail in the coffin of there aren't enough guys. According to Wikipedia, which I'm not sure

I'm gonna fully believe, but I'll go ahead for now and believe. Sure. They have a son named Howdy-Doug-Good, Gra, but I'll go ahead for now and believe. Sure. They have a son named Howdy-Doug-Good Gravy, Tomahawk Truck Stopper Omni. Hi. May or may not be the case. Anyway, so Tucker's talking about demons.

Sure. Sure. I've decided, you know, I thought for a long time that I was anti-borders, you know, like no borders, no countries, no nothing. And I've realized that we do need borders, but not organized around like region, organized around century, okay? So like this region,

there will be people who still live in 1904. Right. So like, You're talking about like the places where they have the role playing, like, let's start, let's go ahead and use that. Yeah, yeah, let's start there, right? So Tucker's just because it's a good start. Let's go ahead. Yeah, yeah Let's start there right so Tucker. Okay. There's a spiritual component 100 you find

1900s. That's where you live. Yeah, I get to live in the present. I like the present where if you Monic though, man, and I'm gonna stay there. Yeah, but you don't have to live in the present with me Yeah, but you can live in 19 or yeah, but you're very existence on the border. No, that's why we again. I'm all about domes my organizational strategy is all dome based Once you get in the dome you're not getting out of the dome. So Tucker is talking demons. Yeah, and Alex's answer is very much Alex's answer is very much trying to like insist that he has something confidential that Tucker has told him. And be like, I don't get to talk about this.

And it just starts rambling about DMT research and familial relations of his that are deeply entwined with the 12 dimensions of our single part of the multiverse. Yeah, I mean, see, I was, I was all fine up until we got of the multiverse. Yeah, I mean see, I was all fine up until we got to the multiverse. Then it's, then you're just, but that's quite a twist at the end. You're negating your premise. You're not twisting, you're just invalidating.

So there's 12 dimensions in each list. No need. Dimension of the verse. No need them. No. No, don't need it. Cut it out. Condense. To focus. To what?

To you can have dimensions or a multiverse. There is dimensions. Vatican connected to the dimensions, higher and lower. That's what you got. You got basic, you got your basic three tiered system. The great and the Vatican is like the hinge point. Exactly. You got your you got your inferno purgatory operatisa You got the traditional structure now we're back to comedy now you got to get it Yeah, that's good So here's here's the situation that you need to- Oh, what were we doing? Who cares?

Do we have a show? Here's what we need to recognize. Yes. More and more people are seeing ghosts. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm gonna need a lot more on that. More and more people are seeing ghosts.

I feel like we've seen so many fucking ghosts. You're gonna get plenty on it. Okay, and here's the thing. Here's where I started to get a sense of what Alex is definitely not saying about Tucker. Okay. The angels would take a bunch of drugs and get in the middle of a circle.

I thought I protected him, Solomon, the Egyptians, all on it. And a genie or a demon would appear. And they usually wanted the sacrifice of blood to give you knowledge. And you can read this in the sacrifice of blood to give you knowledge. And you can read this in the book. Or to give you three words. Black magic books that are, you know, thousands of years old, transletons of year old, black magic books.

All this comes from with psychedelics and, you know, in the ancients and then all other cultures taking these drugs is that they believe they're talking to the gods and the servants of the gods. But the rule is the higher level angels are good guys don't interfere in the third dimensional manifestation of our bodies that is a dimensional manifestation or signature of something much larger. So this is kind of the tether of what we are and a signature footprint that's interdimensional. They're it's way more complex than that, but no, basically that that's where these people

have these experiences. That's where people who have never taken drugs have no mental illness in their family. We'll walk into their bedroom and a poltergeist will appear or won't and will throw you up onto the ceiling.

Holy shit. We'll put giant bloody scratch marks across your chest and and so more and more people are having this experience. the ceiling. Oh, really shit. We'll put giant bloody scratch marks across your chest. And so more and more people are having this experience. And so they didn't believe in God, they didn't believe in aliens till they get demonically attacked. And I'm not going to say who this has happened to, but let's just say it's happening to a lot of people and they're suddenly discovering, all this is trying to then say, what did this to me? I'm not drinking. I'm on drugs.

And I just got it. Choose it when you're alone. And these things will attack you. And so that's that's really what's going on. And so to Tucker got attacked by a demon. I believe that's what I'm picking up that whilst in his main studio where he said he drinks Tucker was it costed by a paltry guys could have do you think he was thrown up off the ceiling I don't know I don't know if it appeared or did not appear because

apparently that is both are available so now here here's where things get real weird yes I was laughing along with this. Sure. This is silly. Well, I mean, but then look at this. Holy shit, there's scratches across your chest! And I saw that and I was like, what the fuck? And then I realized I had a cap. You do have a cap, there is that. Yeah.

So probably not a demon. Ah, I could not be a demon. Yeah. Could be a cap. Deep. So Tucker got attacked by a demon and that's why he's acting weird. I don't understand the specificity of the scratch marks on the chest. Because that is so specific.

And we've already got, we don't need that detail. We've already got, oh, they might appear or not and you'll be on the roof. Scratches on the chest seems almost like a downgrade. And yet is so specific it feels important Well, here's here's the thing that I would look at it as yeah So you have Someone who's a gunslinger sure and you got someone who's a knife fighter all right Which one brought the correct instrument to the fight each other. Oh, okay

Well, that's good what I'm saying is the things that they would leave behind if they attacked you would be different Oh, it's true So maybe there are certain poltergeists. They like to scratch. They're clause. Okay, poltergeists have telekinesis So now now we have a different routine a knife fighter and a gunslinger now we've entered and see this is where we get into trouble again I always like that. Okay, if that's true, what else is true question? Sure. Well, it's like with poltergeists, they are like action role playing games. Sure. There's different classes. Well, that's what I'm saying. Okay. Each one has a dimension. Now, you are a cowboy gunslinger. You die in the old west. Yeah. Are you forever a gunslinger poltergeist? Or can you learn a new

skill? Well, it depends on if you have enough in-game currency to respect. That is a good, that is a good point. Yeah, because you got to do fetch quests pretty regularly. Yeah, you've got to grind to the XP in order to become a nice guy. Unless you want to put in your real money, your real ghost money. You don't want to do that. You know what I do that. But you could like just start. Read a poll, guys. You could just start like trying to like learn a secondary scale. Sure. It'll always it won't be. Yeah, yeah. You can't do a class. No, not not after your ghost. Not a I mean, well, you can add Lich, but that's already really kind of happened. So yeah, Tucker got attacked by a demon. Tucker got attacked by a demon. We have to keep

coming back to this because that is clearly what Alex is saying. 1904 is the year that Tucker gets delivered. So look, a lot of people take DMT and they have these visions, like the astronauts that were on DMT drips. Sure. But Alex doesn't eat that shit. No. You know why? Drugs?

He has a freakishly large neck. Oh, what's happening is, we're in a... He's teaming with energy, teaming with consciousnesses, but we're dialed down because you couldn't have a wife or a husband and go plant corn in the field and, you know, do your work if you could see all the different things interdimensionally that are there. And so I naturally have a 21 inch neck and I have really bad sleep apnea since I was a kid because I guess it's almost called a birth defect. I mean, my head is huge and

the next huge for my body. But the point is, is that I've had two sleep studies done. I get down to 63% oxygen and there's only at night. That's caused his brain damage long term, but but but there's only

one thing to do. Studies that will bring you into the rest of the range and that's low oxygen dreams. Well, I have low oxygen dreams. So since I was a small child, especially when I grew up, I got bigger. I don't dream in REM sleep the last two hours, like most people. I dream from the time I go to bed, but the time I wake up eight hours later. And a lot of it is a brain function going over the data, creating scenarios for the brain.

Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm flying planes. That is the wrongest response to that. Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm

Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I'm Nick, I stuff. So yes. And so I'm not trying to get mumbo jumbo. I don't go to the churches and believe that stuff. I don't, I know what I objectively know. I know the government studying it. And you know, I told Tucker some private stuff. He told me some private stuff. He asked me on his show to go ahead and say it. And I said, you know, I'm not going to tell those stories, Tucker, because he said, why not tell it right now during a break. He was, you know, we're taking a piss. And he, and I said, Tucker, why don't you tell your stories? He said, Touche Touche, near devastating speed bump by Metscher, expertly avoided by Alex, just sort of shuffling it off to the side and moving along. Alex probably is maybe that conversation was real with Tucker, the, I'll share mine of you, share yours, do you?

Yeah, that could be. But Alex's motivation in not getting into that stuff is not because Tucker didn't, it's because you had a wider audience that he didn't want to look at him as nuts. Yeah, he's saying that stuff. Real fine. Yeah, here, yeah, because there is a Joe Rogan adjacency

to the audience that Alex knows that occurred. Metzger and Jimmy Doer have where he wants, he wants to have kind of like that psycho not going on. Yeah, whereas, you know, Tucker for whatever, you know, still mainstreaming it a little bit. Yeah, yeah, whether or not that accurately depicts Tucker's audience, that is the aesthetic. And that, that's what you want to play to. I feel like what we just heard was, imagine a guy spent 25 years building a career around the idea that every night someone was in his house moving stuff around. And then about an hour ago, he's like, yeah, there's a guy's in my house every night, move stuff around.

And then last night, found out I was a sleepwalker. Crazy. Anyways, this guy, I'm gonna catch him next time. You know what it's like when. I've surreptitiously picked my worldview around what I think this guy is up to. I'm sorry. Did you just explain everything that you have ever said

in two seconds with a very simple and plausible and in fact, the actual agent? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, because everybody else having like a low oxygen hallucinogen no hallucinogen no 100% explained every single thing that you have ever said to me everybody else would have nonsense hallucination dreams I see the future oh my god

that may be so bad I don't know if I can really, I genuinely, I can't really... It's so frowning. I can't wrap my mind around the idea that he's told people in his real life that stuff. Yeah, probably. They've been to doctors and the doctors have been like, you understand this is all why. You understand all of this, it's right here, it's right here.

Yeah, the problem is the effilutions and you think they're real. Yeah. Now, he is the added layer, the effilirap your head around. Yeah yeah now he is the added layer the have to wrap your head around Yeah, he's telling this to Jimmy and Kurt. Yep, and they're just like oh man. That's heavy. That's a good stuff I mean I feel I genuinely feel this is about as insane as a human being can feel I think you can see why I stopped taking notes Yep, yeah, no, I I truly feel crazy like it does feel like I've been gaslit on a level of like It feels like I'm a ghost it feels like I'm a ghost right, you know like these people are all having a conversation And I'm just sitting there screaming in there. You know this

Well, no, that is kind of what our show is it is like it's a little ghost. It is a little ghosty I will say that polter guys. So Tucker saw a demon. When Tucker tells his stories, I'll tell mine. And I'm giving you a little bit of a hint here. And I've not broken confidence or anything here. I'm just okay. This Tucker doesn't watch Jimmy Dore are having these experiences. I mean, you might be driving down the road.

And you're not on drugs and it's 8 a.m. in the morning. And you have no history of mental illness. You've never seen a hallucination, both optical or, uh, uh, you know, all factory. And you look over in your seat and there is a demon sitting right there in the seat saying, I'm going to kill you. I mean, that, that, that, that is going on. And so, so 95% of this interview has been stuck. We can prove they're going to control our minds. They're going to do all this. They're going to make a seat bugs. And so they're all here's the best info I have. They didn't meet the aliens at Roswell. They didn't go and the aliens landed on.

Aliens, you know, and hangar area if you want. hanger area of it, you want. What they're doing is they're getting interdimensional information from lower level beings that are older than us or better around the transistor. All of this is just here's this radio. And it's not coming and crash spacecrafts. That's what they're giving them, but they'll literally tell the government when they're when they're in these DMT operations. Okay, bring in 10 kids and cut their heads off for me. giving them, but they'll literally tell the government when they're when they're in these DMT operations. Okay, bring in 10 kids and cut their heads off for me. Give me 10 kids. They say, well, they want you to evil things. They like it. They like about money or just to see if we'll do what they tell them. And then they go, okay, open

your mind. I'm giving you a design for something. And then they're giving us a design to build this. They translate this. It's kind of like the movie cheesy 1990 sci-fi movie species where they got a radio telescope aimed at 50 light years away or whatever it was. And they get sent a DNA sequence from aliens. And they go, let's inject this into a female egg and see what happens. It is almost kind of exactly like it. He's almost kind of exactly like movies that he's seen. I 100% forgot the plot of species. Me too.

Because I saw it at a like basketball team sleepover, or maybe wasn't even a sleepover. I'm not entirely sure. Basketball team, I'm sleepover? I know, I think it might have not been a sleepover, but like a pizza party kind of thing. Right, right, right. That makes way worse.

Yeah. And it was, I only think I think it was a sleepover because of what I'm about to tell you. Okay. I was not allowed to watch all rated movies. Sure. And so I went to a bedroom and like censored it myself. Oh, oh, oh, oh, dear.

I refused to watch it because I wasn't allowed. And so I went to a bedroom. That's why I probably thought it was a sleepover. I want to protect you as a child more I was fine not seeing Natasha hamstrich nude. That's all right. Yeah, you'll be all right Oh, yeah, I forgot that was the plot of the movie, but apparently that's what the the aliens are demons are doing That is the plot and then she could jump really high. Wasn't that the I don't know. I didn't see it That's a good point

Something like that. So yet some more alien talk here. Sure. You ready? No, no, no. And so basically the aliens don't come and flying saucers from Mars. They don't come up out of it, you know, the Pacific, you know, rim, you know, from the hollow earth, like in that movie through the or in that other movie, vortex, and then communicate, oh, like in that other movie, that is and then communicate. Oh, like in that other movie that is operating in the third, four, six, seven, eight, nine, and 10th and even 11 and 12th dimensions. Whoa. And so the invasion,

ancients would call it spiritual, but it's not spiritual in every culture. I mean, they got the dogon tribe and you know, tribes in Africa that, that that that that set up there in the sky is this pole star multi star and it's got seven planets around it. And they came from this one. And no telescope movie from the US until like 70 years ago, could even see it. And I remember that scene. African said that was and they say aliens came from here and taught us about all this stuff. But they also told us about these other interdimensional things that are here to destroy us.

And you see, I don't know, but all I know, and then you see Prometheus the movie, like K-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H- story none of the globalist really believe that some salts in the ocean turn into a cell turn into a sponge turn into a fish crawl down the land crawl back in so we're anti all evolution to signs that have been made before well of course Alex is right now that makes sense yeah but yeah Jimmy's not pushing back at all you dumb fuck you believe in evolution it was it was Prometheus is the movie Prometheus I had not expected the movie Prometheus to be on the you didn't expect to be that quickly. I really didn't. I really didn't. I thought it would take a little a little longer.

Yeah. Maybe there would be another movie starring Matt Damon that they would bring up soon or later. Yeah. Wow. Oh boy. It's good stuff. I think we should replace the right wing conspiracy media with just a loop of the movie event horizon, right? Oh, fuck not like we could just get rid of all of them and then just have a captive

Quarter of the American population just always watching event horizon on a loop And it would be about the same in terms of belief adventure. I mean, it would be a push. Yeah. So Alex, he does think he's on time store, Rogan. Yeah. He's trying to blow some mines here. It's feeling like it's not hard to do in this scenario. Well, it's a little harder than he thinks it is. Uh-oh. Have a lead block shield and they'll have a neutron or a particle. And if you're observing and it won't go through, but that for some reason, it's been duplicated thousands of times,

if you're not observing it, it suddenly jumps across. It wants you to know something. And then they've also noticed that if humans observe electrons and quarks that literally, so it's kind of like George Lucas went on a cheesy way, because I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That it's a great cool guy. It's a great, it's a great, it's a great, it's a great, it's a great, it's a great

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as soon as somebody in Russia or Japan or America back to Japan, look at it through the electron microscope. Absolutely. I mean, I'm not the quantum mechanics person. I just know that's what's going in unified field theory. I've read a lot of books on it into all of this and and so it's there. There's a whole look. Look. So Alex is trying to blow some minds. I think Kurt says in Tangleman, right? And Alex is like, oh, he knows a word. Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. Once once your past I'm not the quantum mechanics guy. It's all unified field theory and blah blah. Move along. Once like the smartest thing you can say is to reference literally spooky action at a distance. That's the thing that they call it. That's the original thing. Spooky action at a distance. It's real spooky. Yeah, that's what scientists did

Yeah, and Alex doesn't first of all understand this stuff at all No, but it's amazing how quickly he retreated once there was like some yeah, oh entanglement Then I will run away. I was killing it with the demon stuff. Yeah, yeah And then he started talking a little bit about quantum physics Well, it's real some of it's real right the problem with quantum physics It sounds like a movie, but some of it's actually true. Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, but here's the thing what if you start a set As a stand-up. Yeah, you're doing well talking about X sure Then you start talking about why right the audience is like, yeah, you go back to X. Yeah, yeah comfortable water

So let's get back to demons. Good call. So that's what what's a cat seeing? How does it decipher it? Because all we have is the art types of our and genetic ancestors imprinted on us to be able to decode things that all we have. So again, maybe, maybe,

maybe we have look like things to themselves, but to us, that's the only way we're able to see them. Does that make sense? Yeah, I've read Charles. I follow what you're saying for sure. Have you done DMT ever? Shut up. Here's the deal. I don't want to take you. I would go host a show with Kurt. I remember only if I could say that. I was to experience this and going, well, I have those experiences every night. Crystal cities, floating pyramids, beautiful stuff like big watchmen, angels, do you mean low oxygen dreams?

That you literally just explained. That are so real. Low oxygen, that they're real. You explained that. No, they're real. And just give me profound knowledge and profound sense of completion and peace. And it's that art type of the watchman or the angels being everybody. And you know, the ancient.

It's low oxygen. Tell me this. So I have DMT-like experiences and before I knew how to control it, it would be a lot of it was bad stuff. I've seen when I read the books about it, well, I've seen that in my dreams. Well, I just made the decision that I'm with the higher power. I'm with God. I control my spirit.

I control my energy. I change the channel, I'm going to go to Valhalla. I'm going to go see stuff that looks like a thousand times more powerful than Hawaii in the most beautiful rainbow you've ever saw. And so, and I know it's real because, because, and again, it's just like observing a particle if you're watching it, it won't do it. Hundreds of times in my life, you've got the universe, whatever you want to call it, when I was a kid,

it's like I have a digital clock in the kitchen. I'd wake up and I'd say, don't tell me the four AM story again. 15, God damn it. And I would run down on the kitchen every time, whatever time it was. And maybe I wake up at five AM and I'd say it's 504. It was always, it was always this thing saying,

go look at the clock, I'm here, I want you to know this is real. Yes, my low oxygen dreams were prophetic and real because I knew what time it was. Because God was telling me what time it was. Look, I do think there's something actually kind of interesting in what Alex is saying. Sure.

That idea of having this terrible dream and then you change the channel, I have had that experience. When you have a nightmare and you recognize it's a nightmare, you can change the entire surrounding. Yeah, you go past. Yeah. But that doesn't mean that any of it is real.

No. I wonder, so this makes me so concerned, right? Because it should. It makes me wonder, like, should we almost entirely give up on that idea of the consciousness has control? And more just really, truly accept that we are only aware of the physical processes after they occur. You know, like, Alex cannot be anything other than what Alex is because biologically Alex

is Alex. And there's nothing that can be done about that those low oxygen dreams If somebody had gone to him and gotten him a sleep apnea machine when he was nine Right if everything had gone the exact same way, but the man dreamt normally for a fucking month Hundred years ago. I mean who knows you might have been Tucker But that's what I'm saying. Yeah. You know, like, what is that? There's just, it's just so fucking, man, we just. The only thing that makes him interesting and different

than everybody else is maybe a function of his low oxygen dreams. Yes, but he's that. And that's it. And that's it, man. That's heartbreaking. Or inspiring. It could be. You know, you hear someone could be people who who like they only became the track star of the

AR because they broke their leg or something like that. You know, you hear that? I would never have become the great liar I am. Yes. If I had no idea that reality was different. Yeah. So anyway, your buddy Kurt, he wants there to be aliens. Sure.

And Alex is saying it's all dimensional stuff. Sure. Sure. He wants there to be space aliens. Better be space aliens. Okay, I have a question. Why would it just be interdimensional? Why wouldn't it be yes and?

Okay, good question. Shut up. It would come from other planets. How is that for pop and work? I'm sure the interdimensional thing could possibly be true. But the interplanetary thing is crazier than that. How would that be? I go back to Frank Herbert, which is out of quantum mechanics. This is actually what the, the, the, the quantum mechanics, you know, exports believe. Let's take this piece

of Frank Herbert and say the guy who died before right here is beable geese or some star, you know, have this is the totally thing we all know this. I mean, I'll show people. Let's say there's a galaxy 50 light years away, okay? Okay, okay, how long does it take light to get there? And here's, you know, this plan that we want to go to, okay? Now, if you're trying to go 50 light years with current technology,

even if we had light speed, you'll take you 50 years to get Okay. Mm-hmm. Now, if you're trying to go 50 light years with current technology, even if we had light speed, it'll take you 50 years to get there. Now, interdimensional all you got to do is fold the piece of paper. He's folding a piece of paper. You just do in the full space. Yeah. You'll do this. And that's the theory of the third dimension. There's higher dimensions. And then all you do is punch a hole and you're basically instantly there. So that's like somebody before they invented the wheel looking at a chariot saying what does that do. So see, I think you're 50 years to get there with the sorry what have yet, but if you interdimensionally travel there, you're there instantly by folding that's full space.

Right. How's it different? All right. Okay. Okay. They're unimpressed. We're also like whatever. Whatever. Pass. So you won last clip. I mean, because here's the, here's the more interesting thing about that, right? The more fun thing about Alex's bullshit is not that it takes 50 light years to get from here, or it takes 50 years from here to a star 50 light years away. It's that in order to accelerate up to light speed, you can only go so fast, right?

You can't accelerate from zero to 300 million, or 300 meters of, there's a second sky, I swear. So it takes you a year and a half, two years to get up to percentage of light speed, right? And during that time, you're also moving at different speeds relative to the rest of the universe. So not only are you moving at, like, say, a day faster than your buddy as you go along, but over time,

that's also changing. So you don't even know how old you're going to be in relation to other people until you leave, right? And then after all of that is done, after all of that is done, after all of that is done, Yeah, you're never gonna get back. Sure. There's nowhere to go. Everybody you know is dead. That's what you got to fold the paper.

And that is why Charlton Heston was so pissed off at that chair. At that fucking statue, man. Now hear me out on this. Yeah. What do you got in my perfect world? Sure. Alex does this. Okay. Demonstration with the guys at the fold and paper. Pokes and pokes. Yeah. Illustrates it and then here's a origami crane. Ah, that would be fun. That would be just a showoff. Just to add a little, a little odd job to it. Because obviously they seem very unimpressed with what he did. What he showed them with the holding. I mean, because it's unimpressive.

Well, the new dude came out just a couple of years ago. Well, Frank Herbert wrote quantum physics. He did a well back. So we have one last clip. And Alex is talking about his dreams. Sure. Yep. And the crystal palaces and what have you still mad

Um, and then I decided I'm out of here good call I wish I had crew in the studio because they've been showing from out of month This AI rendering of of castles and mountains and the universe and how it changes and when I saw them play that I went That's where I go. That's one of the things I've seen basically exactly. Well, here's AI scraping the art and visions of billions of people. And then you put into it the cosmos heaven. And then it literally shows you what the collective unconscious already has. So that is the power of AI. Wow. Is that it's straights fragments of what we're doing in the conscious and unconscious that bubble up

to the conscious and then it is, and many of these things I've seen manifesting some really deep, powerful stuff. There's no crew in there, is there? Too bad everybody's probably gone or not. That's a metaphor. I'm gonna send you this. There's no crew, okay.

And I'm telling you, the stuff I see in these dreams is just like this, but even more blazing and gorgeous and just, you know, way more powerful. But when I saw this for the first time, I was like, whoa, that's it. That's very similar to what I see. And I've never seen art like that, never seen culture like that, never seen what I've seen. One of the things I see. And then AI though, it, it saw it because it's scraping millions of people. Mm hmm. So before we go out you you tweeted this out And I want to end our conversation talking a little bit about Israel. You say yeah

Nope, you do not transition from this bullshit nonsense conversation to let me ask you a serious question about Israel Well, look off while we're on the topic of very important things. Like how AI is scraping your dream vacation home. Alex, you're your complete made up fictional universe based entirely around your illness. That is interesting. Tell me about Israel. I wonder are people just like legitimately afraid to call him nuts? Like are people just afraid to listen to that and push back because they think he's going to push back

even harder? I don't know what the deal is, but if you have any self respect, first of all, you're not gonna then ask your closing question about some very serious topics. Some people need to throw something. But you're not gonna listen to this whole Tucker Carlson got attacked by a demon nonsense.

I have oxygen deprived dreams that have formed my world view that you should all take very seriously. And he's based on science fiction movies that I can't stop name dropping. How would you, if you had any self respect, not be like, here's a follow up question, but these dreams, they're not real. You don't know what time it is.

Who go fuck yourself? Yeah. You know, the only thing that I've ever, as far as comedians go, you know, that whole like, oh, comedians, truth tellers, you know, that whole thing. I've never bought into any of that. The only thing, truly that I think comedians and clowns are that cannot be done by anything else is the kid who says the emperor has no clothes. You know, like that's who we are. We're the people who, yeah, everybody else is standing around.

You and Jim Brewer have a lot in common. I mean, not let him fuck that guy. Fuck everybody. COVID has no facts. I'm just, I just mean like that's what we're here. I'm willing to be called a clown. I'm willing to have everybody laugh at me because that's what it means for me to be able to say,

Jesus Christ, Alex Jones just said he only has enough oxygen to barely survive, and that's where everything you think he believes comes from. Yeah. He just doesn't breathe good. All the things that he pretends are based on like this, extensive research and thousands of books, and no, it's things that he's had hallucinations

from lack of oxygen that he feels our prophecy. There are two atoms that are not often enough in Alex's brain. That's it. Yeah, I mean, it does describe, explain a whole lot. Yeah. And I mean, the, where the rubber meets the road is that the politics that he has created on top of those delusions and those hallucinations

that he's deep prophecy are things that are really dangerous. They heard a lot of people. Um, people, uh, were obviously killed through the vaccine denialism, the hydroxychloroquine stuff. Yep. People are targeted and at risk due to his transphobia and his increasingly towards just outright entire LGBTQ community denial. He's a racist. He would see all immigrants banished. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, that's, these are the real world pieces that are built upon his house of lack of oxygen. Right. And that's what, that's the, that's the clown. That's the clown. That's me being like, hey, listen, you have built an entire fucking worldview that is all structurally dependent on not enough oxygen getting to

this man's dreams. So I don't know if you want to start from scratch, but maybe I would. I mean, I think a lot of people should ask some hard questions. You think? Yeah, you think. Yeah, myself included because I have created a show, but a guy who's just like a guy to do his brain. I think what we've inadvertently stumbled on to,

perhaps the greatest problem of our time. Maybe we just need to be cram and more oxygen in sleeping conservatives' brains. Hey, it's clear that, I mean, if this is the only instance of this being bad, sleep apnea is a huge problem. He's a huge problem. Cause it's created this in one person. It's destroyed the world.

So here's our message. Yes. Sleep happening. Breath high, James. Serious problem. Yeah, we all need to get a fucking T. Humidifier. So anyway, oh God, I'm glad. Talk about Darfur. I'm glad that we went back and loop back and and got the rest of I do feel like it's important I left the first Jimmy door episode feeling Jimmy board and I didn't feel inspired at all about what was going on It just seemed like a dumb interview that Alex was saying all the same shit and to an extent This is also a lot of the same shit that Alex has in a bunch of these interviews

the same shit and to an extent this is also a lot of the same shit that Alex has in a bunch of these interviews. Sure. But this gave me a little bit more of a window and I think I'm a little bit more interested for one, Jimmy has no fucking spine whatsoever and allows Alex to just run over everything and go wherever he wants with no pushback. I mean nuts. Second, Jimmy does seem like maybe he's someone who would be more interesting to cover because I do think he's further down the road than I assumed

Yeah, I would agree the second half of this definitely had more indications to me that like he's closer to Alex than I thought for sure Right not it not as much of a showman ironically That's professional you think yeah, not not as much Chops not funny. No. I would, I'm, I'm, I love how much you don't like Kurt Madsker. I really do. And I think it would be funny to subject you to it. It will be fun.

I'm actually almost even looking forward to yelling, shut up Kurt. No, I think what is interesting for me right at the gate and why I'd like to do more Jimmy Dora is the fact that he didn't like always go along. The fact that he just let Alex Ramble without then always being like, and here's what I agree with.

Here's my- Sometimes we're joined to riff and sometimes not. I would like to know how much of this was just him being like Alex's on the show, let him talk that's dollar signs and how much of it is like we want Alex to get his message out Yeah, I am curious about that. Yeah, and then there's also some dangling threads like he you know I haven't watched enough of his content to fully know what his position on some of these issues are sure

He said he switched his position on immigration. I don't want to know what he thinks about Israel. Oh no Well, I kind of do I may have seen a clip of that. You don't have a choice. Professionally, you don't have a choice. But I may be interested in like, what does that mean? You switched your position on immigration. What is it now? I know it's not good, but what is it?

What was it? Well, you said more immigrants, the better. Well, yeah, I mean, that's not really a position though, is it? No, but maybe that's just how he's characterizing it. It might not be fully what his position was in the past, but I'm not sure what it is now. Is he like legit a full-on all vaccines are wrong? Yeah. Is he a climate change denier? Like how much of these positions are actual things that he stakes out and he stands behind? Yeah. I'm kind of curious in that. I am too. I don't know how fervently I'll seek this as a topic to cover but

But at least this was I think a little bit more interesting than the first one. Yeah, I got to learn the I'm not gonna be able to attack by demons. I'm not gonna be able to handle a couple of like this was a couple of Revelations on this episode really truly make me like both furious like Hopeless and it's a proper that revelations. Yes, I have to do a demons like both furious, like hopeless. And it's appropriate that revelations. You have to do a demons in the end of the world. Yep.

So anyway, we'll be back Jordan for another episode but until then we have website. We do, it's KnowledgeRite.com. Yep, and social media exists. We are on social media. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know.

Anyway. I like Instagram because I'm into whales now. I'm just I just really like look They're so big. We'll be back But until then I'm knee only on lazy x-clock. You know it'd be great. Alex should be on the traders Can you imagine I absolutely care? He can't get a trader. Yeah, I'm oh my god. Yes, of course. Can you a trader? my god, yes, of course, can you imagine a trainer, the first round table.

I see. There he is, yeah, he's getting, he's getting tapped on the arm. He's like, it's a good thing I'm not getting tapped on the arm right now. No, I mean the first time when there's accusations flying. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Call suspicion to itself. Oh great. It's me, season three. Alex. But he has to wear a Hannibal Lecter, he has to always be tied up, Hannibal Lecter style. Hear me out. The has to always be tied up, Hannibal Lecter style. Hear me out.

The three to the audience. You can't see the excitement. The hand waving. Yes, the hand is standing. Chosen people who will be the traders. The three traders see three. Alex Jones, Bill Gates, Steve Pachanik. OK.

All right, that crew. Well, we let me pitch you this a female representation Let me pitch you this Alex Jones very white team of traders Alex Jones the British TV presenter. Okay, and then Yeah, we're gonna go with Steve Pachanik again Yeah, I see Pachanik anyway, we'll be back And now here comes the sex robot Andy and Kansas you're on the earth. Thanks for holding Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,