Knowledge Fight - #89: December 31, 2015

Episode Date: October 9, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about how Alex Jones ended his broadcast year in 2015. As it turns out, he closes out the year with an interview with Dan's #2 Favorite Crazy, a very bigoted preacher by th...e name of Rev. James David Manning. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex, I'm a first-name caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around,
Starting point is 00:00:12 drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. That is true. Today, there's a twist. Is there a twist to it? There is. Is there a today-specific twist? Yeah, we're both a little bit hungover.
Starting point is 00:00:22 We're very hungover. We went out, had a few drinks last night, and played Scrabble at a Bar. It was a... You were a hit. Oh, well, I had been secretly dosed with weed Rice Krispie treats. That may or may not be true.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I have my suspicions that you're lying. I'm not lying. Regardless of what they, I don't know, I'm not lying. You were a huge hit, though, because you had to go get your own board, your own Scrabble board, because the bar... It turns out if you walk around with your own Scrabble board, people will not stop talking to you.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Everyone was telling you how cool you were. I know. It's super weird. Also, for those interested, Jordan did beat me by, I think, five points. Something like that. Some small number. It made me furious.
Starting point is 00:01:11 You didn't like... Very unhappy about it. It wasn't that I lost, or that you lost. It was that you didn't like my words. I didn't like... Yeah, I thought that your gameplay was possibly overly defensive. Some of your words were shit.
Starting point is 00:01:27 I was working to open up the board to the possibilities that we could collaboratively make words. I don't understand how people... That's the way my girlfriend plays it, too. Like, let's open the board. Let's get creative. No.
Starting point is 00:01:40 It's a game. See, you're a capitalist, man. It's a game. You're a capitalist. Okay. All right. I'm more of an anarcho Scrabble capitalist. Speaking of capitalism, I'd like to give a shout-out...
Starting point is 00:01:50 Your translations are incredible. I'd like to give a shout-out to a very special policy wonk. This is someone who was donating and up their donation. Oh, shit. I'd like to give a big shout-out and thank you to you, Heather. Thank you so much. Heather, thank you very much. I'm a policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Yeah. Congratulations. That's my favorite thing that's ever happened. It's so great. The best thing that's ever happened. So a little bit of housekeeping here, just really quick,
Starting point is 00:02:20 because I mean, we talked about this not mattering, it's like right before we recorded, but I'm still self-conscious about it. So we have an episode that's going to drop at the end of the week that I intended to drop at the beginning of the week, but I switched them. So if you get a little bit confused by that, don't worry about it. Everything's cool.
Starting point is 00:02:37 But today... But we're not deliberately fucking with your head. No, no. If you're listening to it and you're like, wait, is this in the present? Well, because I think the episode we're going to put out on Friday is, I think we might say it's Monday or something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I just don't want to, you know... It's entirely possible. We're pros, all right? Are we? No. But... In a certain sense. Jordan.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Yes. We've got to play this out of context drop. Okay. Because I'm so excited about what we're going to be going over today. Okay. Today we are discussing the New Year's Eve 2015 episode. Oh, fuck me! 2015 New Year's Eve on the Alex Jones program.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Now, here's the thing. I'm quite excited now. New Year's Eve is the best kind of holiday, because it's a holiday that everyone can celebrate. It has nothing to do necessarily with religion. It has nothing to do with nation of origin. There's nothing jingoistic about it. All it is, is a time to reflect on the last year that's happened in your life.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I disagree entirely. What are you talking about? I mean, whose calendar are we using? Well, who cares? The calendar is white nationalist. Thanks! Chinese New Year's a fucking awesome time, too. I know.
Starting point is 00:03:44 You know what I'm talking about? I'm just being a dick. Any of these holidays that are really just about reflection and about like, what can we do better next time around? Right. I'm into them. They're a celebration and a day of remembrance and regret. None of this will be relevant to Alex Jones in his New Year's Eve.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Of course. But he has a guest. There is actually a war on Christmas on New Year's Eve this year. I think I might have cut out some of that stuff, but he has a guest on that I've been itching to talk about for the entire time we've done this podcast. And he comes on in the first time in the coverage of the, you know, the, the era that we've been covering. His name is James David Manning, and he is number two on my list of my favorite crazies
Starting point is 00:04:28 on Alex Jones. Is he the third Manning brother? He's not, but here is an out of context drop of James David Manning that made me laugh for maybe five minutes earlier today. I mentioned this on Saturday for the pulpit that someone, someone Sotomight sent me a bucket of poop. Did I tell y'all that the fact that he said he, he mentioned it from the pulpit means that there is a church out there that knows somebody sent this dude a bag of poop or a box of poop.
Starting point is 00:05:10 We'll get into his entire story when, when we get there, but he is a, he is a preacher. And he has his own, he has his own church called outlaw in New York, up in, up in New York. And he's crazy. Yeah. He is, he is amazingly crazy, right? Like the best kind of crazy to the point where he may have accidentally sent himself a box of poop.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I wouldn't put it past him. Quite frankly. Gotcha. He is a virulent, uh, anti-gay preacher. Yeah. If you start with Sotomight, I know we're in trouble. He's massively, uh, uh, also anti-black. I should be clear about this.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Gotcha. He's black and hates black people. It's fascinating and we're going to get into all of it, but we got, you know what? He doesn't come in at the beginning of the show. So we got to start as the show starts and, uh, With a box of poop. We got to find out Alex Jones, uh, the last we left off, we were talking about the 29th and the 30th.
Starting point is 00:06:14 We discussed the two days prior to this, where we're seeing that Alex Jones has accepted that he is with Donald Trump. Right. And one of the things that we wanted to get into was like, how long does it take him to go from there to Americana 2.0? Yeah. I think you're going to see it was very quick. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Because I think it might even be in this episode. Jesus. You start to see like the show is so much more about Trump. Almost, I would say three quarters of this episode is about how great Trump is. It happened very fast, but Alex starts the show by talking about John Wayne's son and how he is one of the elites at a camp out with my son at a birthday party and I was down by the creek and had already been told by the folks that were putting on the party on their acreage that, oh, yeah, John Wayne's son lives next door, but they're, they're
Starting point is 00:07:14 moving out in a month to Costa Rica. They're leaving the United States and they say, especially the last time we get out of here. So then I'm down there and up by the creek, like a day later, we're there for two days. Here comes John Wayne's son and I'm like, look, it looks like John Wayne was like a Hispanic John Wayne and put him in leave and he goes, yeah, the word is, you don't get out of here in a year or two, you won't be able to get out with your money or anything. I said, really?
Starting point is 00:07:43 He goes, yeah, that's what all the rich people and all the elites are doing. They're leaving and I've been hearing that from billionaires and people too. You know, now it's all over the news. It's not. Also, if I were the elites, I don't think I would care about John Wayne's son. I disagree. I think he would be very low on my list of press release recipients. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:02 All right. All right. Son of the Duke. You just, then you have no respect for tradition. I don't. And this is why the West is dying, Dan. Yeah. Everybody knows that you respect John Wayne's lineage.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Super patriotic movie stars and their offspring are very important to Americana. Yeah. Oh, you know about Ronald Reagan's son, right? Sure. Got pegged. Oh, absolutely. He said somebody a box of poop. I don't know who it is, but I bet we'll find out.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I can't tell you how funny I think that like, so James David Manning, not to jump the gun. Okay. He puts out so many fucking videos on his YouTube channel that it's legitimately impossible for us to cover everything. We could do an entire podcast about him and I think it might be more fun. All right. So when Alex Jones goes down, we're right on the James David Manning tip and I was going through them trying to find like, you know, fun stuff that he said over the years, one
Starting point is 00:09:00 of the titles was just Sotomight sent me a bucket of poop and I clicked it and that clip, that drop is how it starts. He's just like, you may have heard Sotomight sent me a bucket of poop. You don't have to tell anybody about this. You don't have to tell anybody. You can just look at it and be like, well, that's a bucket of poop. Let's not let these Sotomight's win. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Let's not publicize this one. But if you do, boy, did they win. I like to me, there's nothing funnier than that video. All right. Well, nothing. Okay. All right. I have some media movies to show you, my friend.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I'm glad you're enjoying this. Wait till we get to some of these other stuff. Okay. It's it's bananas. But let's let's trod through the Alex Jones episode before Manning gets there. In this clip, Alex Jones expresses a good bit of ambivalent racism, sort of, I guess, is a fair way to put it. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Well, he says something that indicates that he is more aware of his bigotry than he likes to let on. Okay. This isn't a game. This is the totalitarian takeover of America. Al Gore said two years ago, we need an Arab Spring in America and they're bringing in an Arab Spring with the radical left and the Black Lives Matter movement to start a civil war in this country.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. That's not rhetoric, folks. That's what they're planning and we're trying to stop it. People say, well, Black Lives Matter has some good points and, you know, let's get past all that. It's George Soros run. No. Of course, it's going to have some legitimate points.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Wait, what? That's crazy. Wait, what did he just say? That's crazy. It's Soros run. You know Soros occasionally is right. Soros always covers his bases. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:59 He's just going to be right. You know, he's got some good points, but it's Soros. Don't worry about that. The points are about how we are suppressing and murdering Black people. Don't worry about those good points. He's trying to distract you with truth. It's Soros. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah. And it definitely has nothing to do with the fact that we are fucking over Black people and Black lives do matter and maybe it is time for a civil war. Those are good points. Those are good points. But put them aside because I want to make you racist because the Arab Spring is happening with the radical left, which is a thing that I think now should exist. I think it will.
Starting point is 00:11:40 It did not exist. I think we're basically living through exactly how the weathermen got created. Yeah, exactly. Right. How that became a necessity. I'm not saying that the IRA was great, right? But they had some legitimate points, even though they were funded by Soros. We can debate the idea that I just espoused that they were, in fact, necessary till the
Starting point is 00:12:01 cows come home. But the reality is they were radicalization is coming. It's a foot. So in this next clip, this is a buddy. This is a Mike down clip. Okay. This in this clip, boy, this is bad. Alex says something pretty terrible, but before he does, he mentions another one of John Wayne's
Starting point is 00:12:23 children. John Wayne has multiple children. Apparently, yeah, I didn't look it up. But yeah. John Wayne's daughter endorses Trump. I am humbly at your service. My dad, I'm sure we're very proud of Mr. Trump. Bill Cosby's lawyer who has faith in justice system.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I mean, look, whether he did all this or not, I think the thing's questionable. On both sides. I think we did was unethical. That's what it is. There's obviously something going on there, but in so many of the cases, it's like I was a playboy girl and I, you know, went out with him 15 times and I think he used to drug me. I don't know what happened when I went to the bedroom with him. I mean, just give me a break.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Give me a break. I just kept going to the hotel room with him and he'd say, you take this pill and I didn't know what the pill did. You got it. I graduated into what we're hearing about date rape where I had five vodkas and then I didn't know what happened since caveman times men have been like, drink the mead female. I mean, I, it's just, it's dangerous where all this is going. I'll tell you what else is dangerous.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Actually does look like a toad. I mean, I have to say Cosby doesn't look too happy in these photographs and I shouldn't be laughing about it. But he's now taken the form of a Muppet and it was actually like he was blind when they let him in. I mean, I don't know what's going on. So at the end there, Alex says, I don't know what's going on. And that's fairly accurate.
Starting point is 00:13:49 He, he has, he got it right. No, but it shows that no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're, you're, you're like, yeah, she came in and he's, he kept saying, take this pill and it's like, Oh, I don't see what's wrong with that. And he's like, no, he drugged her, he even said he drugged her. You're, you're even missing the point in that, uh, what he says there and the fact that he understands what the allegations and the reality of it is, and even says, obviously something is going on.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Right. And he's fine with it. It means that he's fine with that. Yeah. No, he's fine. He's cool with date rape. Well, I mean, he thinks it's caveman date rape is fine. All of these people who are trying to tell men not to drug women, they're just trying
Starting point is 00:14:32 to take away their male vitality or something along those lines. That's fucked up. That is fucked up. Yeah. I mean, this is really an endorsement of date rape as opposed like not even like, well, no, no, no, no, I think what he would say is like, listen, I don't care what he would say. You're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:14:50 It's kind of primitive, but you're going, yeah, who cares? Yeah. Yeah. Can I steal one? Uh-huh. No, this is, this is fucking insane. It is. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It would be fine if he just, it wouldn't be fine. It would be better if he just denied that he did it. Sure. As opposed to being like, yeah, he totally did it, but it's fine. That's like, look, OJ is allowed to kill one wife, like it's just from caveman days. Right. Men have always been like, you woman, me kill you. If you see your female property with another man, then of course it's going to make him
Starting point is 00:15:23 want to kill both of them. Oh, absolutely. So you got to do it. Yeah. That's fine. From the time of cavemen. Oh, of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It's not like that. Nobody ever had an issue. Yeah. There's no reason that we've progressed. That's so fucking stupid. Very bad. On, it's not even, there's everything wrong with it. Everyone understands.
Starting point is 00:15:45 We all get it. Let's move along. I'm sorry. That's fucking insane. No. I'm not, I'm not trying to shut you down or anything like that. It says we're both, you know, like we said, a little bit hungover. Let's not dwell in these negative things.
Starting point is 00:15:55 We've highlighted the problems with Alex and let's get to the more fun stuff that's coming. So let's get through this. This next clip, Alex, I mean, it's just full, full on Trump indications like he is there. He is a part of the team and we add to the sort of the robustness of the theory that I'm working under that is mostly it's Roger Stone lying to him behind the scenes. Okay. And then England, the British government is looking at the UK at banning Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:16:25 as a public menace from entering Britannia. Interfering in our elections, trying to demonize someone who has massive business holdings in the UK, huge hotels, golf courses, you name it. These are sanctions against him. Yeah. You really know he's good, don't you? Just like Iran sections and he's got people advising him that are hardcore and full wars listeners.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Oh no. Roger. You are hardcore people in the Nixon and Reagan and Bush 41 administration. Why does he say people? Oh, he's specifically talking about. I think Pachennik too. Oh, that's true. But at the same time, like he's literally describing this person and not saying who it is after
Starting point is 00:17:14 he's already given those exact credits for Roger Stone. Yeah, I know. So great. Look, I'm not going to say who my source is. It is Donald Trump Jr. though. So I'm, I'm pretty sure that Roger Stone doesn't listen to Alex Jones's show. I'm pretty sure that's lip service. Even when he's on Alex Jones's show, he's not listening to Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Certainly not. Absolutely. Maybe Sernovich. Yeah. Maybe. Nah. Serious people who don't want to see this country destroyed. There is an internal battle in the government folks.
Starting point is 00:17:45 That's why all these generals are going public by Cy Hirsch came on this show yesterday. This is a soft coup against the globalist takeover. There is a counter coup going on. Cy Hirsch agreed. No, he didn't. Pulled a surprise winner. Greatest living journalist with this show yesterday, knowing full well who we are came on to agree with us.
Starting point is 00:18:08 He has to clarify that because he's like, we didn't trick him. You knowing who we are, right? He agreed with us, which even I have to point out is bonkers. Very incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Alex Jones is like, wait, what? A journalist agreed with me?
Starting point is 00:18:25 You're a journalist. This is a claim no one's going to believe. And so yeah, he tries to, to bolster it. But if you go, I mean, you can find it. If you want to find it, you can go listen to the entire interview with Cy Hirsch. He says there's a soft coup and that a counter coup is going on. He doesn't agree with Alex. He's conflating interviews that he had with Steve Pachennik.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Non-stop agreement. Yeah. That's Steve Pachennik who agrees with all that stuff. That's the same person. Uh, Seymour Hirsch did have some interesting things to say, but he also said that, uh... And did you know that Steve Pachennik also was Bill Hicks? That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:58 No, he's actually Kinnison. Soft coup! So in this next clip, Alex is, uh, he's, I think, I think he's got some bad information. And this is the beginning of the, uh, what I would describe as the unprovable, undisprovable stories about Trump's elaborate strategies, right, uh, and the, uh, secret patriots. He's been, he's been a patriot for 30 years, right? Well, this is less Trump and this is more the secret patriots that helped get Trump elected and the sort of work that they were doing.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Don't like them. Not great. The military has said, no, no. You want to give weapons to ISIS? They're just going to break them and they deliver them broken weapons. That's why ISIS will bitch on these things and go, hang grenades without the detonators. You know, uh, AR-15s without the firing pins. And so when the military is flying over there and the contractors are with these big C-130s
Starting point is 00:20:03 full of weapons, they sit there on the whole flight sabotaging it. Ha-ha. That'll feed us. They follow their orders, but they sabotage it. So before we go any further, I feel like that is not their orders. It's not, but also they're taking, they're taking license with their orders. Well, but before we go any further, if we imagine a scenario wherein Alex is correct and these people are giving weapons to terrorist groups, uh, but their, their way of lashing
Starting point is 00:20:30 out is to break the weapons before they get there. I think that the bad people within our military who are ordering these weapons to be delivered are going to figure out that pattern pretty quick and figure out who's breaking the weapons on the way to the terrorist group. It's not like the terrorists aren't going to be like, Hey, uh, guys, if you have, if you have an open communication line, they're going to be like, why are our weapons broken? And the generals aren't going to be like, well, I don't know. Oh no, they got us.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Yeah. Well, the counter coup worked. Patriots. The soft coup worked or whichever coup, the counter counter coup. So anyway, I think that's kind of stupid. Very. Very. Going on at the grassroots level, you should, I don't think I've ever seen such a legitimate
Starting point is 00:21:17 resistance. This isn't mutiny. If you're on board an aircraft, a seven, seven, seven say, and a guy goes, you know, hello, hello, hello, and the name of all is great. I will kill all of you. If you did not do as I say, and back in the seventies and eighties, they would actually go put on the outfit of the captain a lot of times because they found everybody submitted when they saw the uniform.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Would it be mutiny to fight back against a hijacker who put the captain's uniform on? You ask a trendy. They'd say, absolutely. What? Check your white privilege at the door and hope that Habib saws your head off. I'm not kidding. There's a death wish for these people. No, the guy wearing the uniform isn't the president.
Starting point is 00:21:54 So yeah. Check your white privilege and hope you get beheaded. Hope Habib cuts off your head. All right. Yeah. I'm a fan of that as a phrase. Okay. I want to, I want to find more ways to use that in my daily life.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Well, you're a damned trendy. Yeah. Well, I'm fine with that. Yeah. As long as I get to say that, because that is a fun sense. You're on a plane. It gets taken over by terrorists. Someone tries to fight back and then you're like, check your privilege, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Don't fight back against this terrorist. Check your privilege. Hey, listen, listen, honky, right? If Habib says you're getting your head cut off, hey, we're moving on up. That's all I'm saying. He's a minority. You got to let him. So stupid.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Also, it's not, if it's a plane, no, it's not mutiny. That's not how mutiny works. It's usually on boats. It's usually, well, it is usually on boats, but it's also where there's a clear like chain of command there. If you're on a plane and somebody hijacked it, then that's no longer mutiny. The guy who hijacked the plane technically committed piracy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Exactly. Yeah. It's all so fucking stupid. So in this next clip, Alex Jones makes a bold pronouncement and this is after he plays a clip of Alex of Donald Trump insulting all the other candidates. And he says that Hillary Clinton doesn't want to go up against him. I'm the last person she wants to be running against. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:23:24 So he says that this is Alex's response. He is such a maniac. I love Donald Trump. I'm sold. That's just, I can't help it. I mean, the Secret Service thinks he's going to shoot shot any moment, by the way. I mean, they are just crawling all over the place. They won't let anybody get near him.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Real quick to our monetary destruction, well, real quick, I think that that is Roger Stone feeding him a line about why he can't meet him or something like that. Oh, yeah. I think that that's probably Roger Stone being like, yeah, you know, the Secret Service isn't letting anyone near him now, you know, so I'm sorry, Alex, you're going to have to wait. Yeah, sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Trump has really, really got guts and there's that quote from Full Metal Jacket, Private Joker silly and he's ignorant, but he's got guts and guts is enough. How did that end up? Well, Trump's not silly or ignorant. He does some wild things because he's real and you know, I questioned it four or five months ago, but now on the inside baseball and watching them openly come after him and the money from both parties coming in against him. I mean, they see him as a major threat and he is.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I'd like to pose a alternative explanation for what Alex believes is the globalist seeing him as a major threat. Some people care about people and disagree and a lot of people very early on saw how bad Trump would be for their rights. Well, and so far he has done a great job. So he's a massive threat for sure, but not to globalists to all of us to people surviving. Yeah. I mean, the globalist to Alex also Roger Stone, there's a big threat because Donald
Starting point is 00:25:09 Trump loves nuclear weapons seems that way and he wants to use them and he doesn't like that everybody hates him. That's true. And every time he's dropped a bomb, everybody's loved him. Everyone said he's presidential. Exactly. Yeah. It is a negative feedback.
Starting point is 00:25:24 So that doesn't bode well for all of us surviving. Let alone it did then you re that he's, he's threatening on Twitter. He's even said recently, like there's only one way to solve this problem. All negotiations have failed. So there's one way to solve it, which suggests he wants to do that. And I would pause it like, why haven't we then? You know what I mean? Like I'm not saying that we should obviously, Dan, I think he's, I think it's still all
Starting point is 00:25:53 blustery bluffing, but I, I, my fear is that it's not. But the fact that he hasn't just gone ahead and fucking attacked him kind of means there's a reason he's not. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's because at a certain point, some general has wrestled him to the ground while he's been like, so who's carrying the nuclear football? And he's been beaten. It'd be great if they just gave him fake codes.
Starting point is 00:26:14 That would solve a lot. They have to, they should give him fake everything. Just put him in a small room with a fake Twitter account. Bill, look, I will call on Twitter right now to build a fake Twitter that only Donald Trump existed. Trump on gab or whatever. Let him hang out with those neo Nazis over there on gab. Go to Friendster.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah. Get on back there. Bring it back. Hey, aim. You got one job left before you go away. They're gone. They're gone. They got one thing to do.
Starting point is 00:26:42 So now Jordan, they got one last job, Jordan. We have seen here on this 31st, the New Year's Eve day episode, Alex Jones is fully on board now. He loves him. He loves him. He says he loves him and that was, I think the formal endorsement that we've been waiting to find. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And it's a little lackluster because we already kind of felt it. So it's not like this Eureka moment now. And even if it was, it would be eclipsed by the appearance of James David Manning. I first discovered James David Manning because he really hated Barack Obama and the lead up to the 2008 election. And so a friend of mine found a video that was a compilation of James David Manning screaming and Reverend Wright, Obama's preacher screaming and the two of them just saying ridiculous shit.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And I was like, what the fuck is this dude? He's crazy. He's like, his big quote is that maybe some people have heard is Barack Obama is a long legged Mac daddy. Oh yeah. Yeah. I remember that. He likes to put women out on the stroll.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. I started to look into him a little bit and he does not disappoint in any way in terms of how insane he is and how unhinged he is from the pulpit and from his own video podcast that he puts out called the Manning report. Oh, not good. We have so much fun to get into.
Starting point is 00:28:14 So let's let Alex, let's let Alex introduce James David Manning, our new crazy and Pastor Manning was right. I remember having him on before Obama got in office and he said, look out. He wants to destroy the country. He wants to bankrupt everything. He's a radical Muslim. All this is going to happen. I said, listen, I love here and you're preaching and you're a great guy and you're really smart,
Starting point is 00:28:33 but I just think you're going too far. And he said he's going to create all this racial division and he's going to bring in all these problems and that's their plan to destabilize and I said, Manning, you're wrong. That was eight years ago, a year before Obama got in office. So this is Alex giving a lead up to his, his appearance being like you were, he was so right. I thought he was wrong, but I, you know, I'm the one with egg on my face because now I fully adopted all of these narratives, right?
Starting point is 00:29:03 All of these anti Barack Obama narratives. I love that. I love that idea that so many people throw out all the time is like, Oh, he's creating racial division. Right. It's you're, you're just like, he successfully made you look at it. Well, but that's, that's what it's always been there. It's what this whole fucking country is.
Starting point is 00:29:24 It's the same narrative that they had of people who did like sit-ins at the diners and shit like that. They're like, you're inciting racism and like, well, no, I'm just existing in public. Yeah. I'm, you know, I'm revealing how racist you are. Right. No stupid piece of shit. And those arguments have existed all throughout history in terms of trying to, you know, it's
Starting point is 00:29:45 not even criminalizing, but like stigmatizing, stigmatizing and denigrating black existence. Yeah. It's, uh, it's sad. How awful is it? The vice president flew to Indianapolis to watch 20 seconds of a fucking football game and then pretend that he's angry about it as if it was not a fucking publicity stunt that everybody saw through in 10 minutes and tweeted out a picture from three years ago. And Trump tweeted that I told him to go.
Starting point is 00:30:17 We live in a fucking cartoon, Dan. It's nonsense. This is insane. That's crazy. So anyway, here's the Puerto Rico still doesn't have fucking water. Our vice president is flying to Indianapolis for bullshit. It's true.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Kill us all, Dan. We deserve it. We have it coming. No, no. We all have it coming. It's not time yet because we have not yet delved into the fun, fun world of Reverend Manning. So here is the proper introduction and Manning coming into the Info Wars airwaves. So joining us is the head of Otlo.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And of course he is a person for decades teaching and freed lunches and meals for the kids there in Harlem going up against, he was here almost six months ago and he said we're going to bring down Al Sharpton now see Sharpton being removed and being brought to the weekend and all the rest of it. He prayed for it. He said it. It's actually happening. And that runs Harlem.
Starting point is 00:31:18 In my view, I call him a mafia Don a political mafia Don James David Manning is the chief pastor at Otlo World Missionary Church in New York City. Manning has been in Otlo since 81 and he stands for the all the land anointed holy, which is God named for Harlem. And I'm not going to get into all his degrees and background on the rest of what he's done. He's been very successful. He created his own school. Of course he did.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And he gave him, he awarded himself a doctor. Of course he did. So there's that. No, it's not even that much. It waking folks up and we salute him in his work and he has been proven right on so many fronts. He is not. Manning, I thought you were being alarmist eight years ago, but I tell you, we are in
Starting point is 00:32:00 a fight for our lives right now and we are up against the satanic force. You're absolutely right. Now we are at war. Alex, there's no doubt about that. And I've started a campaign to get Trump elected. I feel that the Republican nomination process was going to be very difficult because you've got both Democrats and Republicans working together to stop him with every power that they can muster.
Starting point is 00:32:26 But we have called for Harlem for Trump and I got to tell you, Alex, black people here in Harlem are touting that Trump is the man. Not sure. Not sure. That's the case. Maybe in his troubling, if true, maybe in his tiny insulated church, right? Of complete crazies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Maybe that's the case. Maybe he has been able to swing them. But I don't believe the African-American community at large was thinking that Trump is the man. Even in 2015. I think the African community at large has been proven right along all political spectrums for a good long while now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Especially about a lot of this neo-Nazi white supremacists. They're not happy. No. They're not happy. Nope. Everyone should have listened. Quite frankly, I should have listened more. I regret that a little bit.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yeah. I think we... There were a lot of earlier signs that maybe didn't take seriously enough. Right. And I regret that. Well, we all should have checked our white privilege and gotten beheaded by Habib. Habib. So in this next clip, Reverend Manning explains that he believes that Trump can save America.
Starting point is 00:33:29 But Donald is the man. There's no doubt about it. He is the man for America. Obama has, in fact, Donald, Alex is perhaps the only man I know right now. That can put America back together again because Obama has destroyed it. And anybody else who gets into power will sit down in that Oval Office. He's going to continue the policies of Obama and continue the destruction of this nation. Listen, you mentioned Anderson Cooper a few moments ago in Egypt.
Starting point is 00:34:01 We can come back to that. We can talk about that as a major subject at some point in time. Like, I've got to tell you, Anderson Cooper ought to be put on trial, but he and Obama are working to destroy the relationship that Egypt had with Israel and destroy the relationship that Egypt had with America and to set off what it was now known as the Arab Spring or the Egyptian Spring. They've now joined the Russians. They drove our oldest ally after Israel away from us.
Starting point is 00:34:26 They're destroying the country. The Russians are our oldest ally? You know, Donald is the only man that will look at this truthfully and say we have to be the French. We'll be great again until we examine this and somebody needs to go to trial. So someone needs to go to trial. Who? Anderson Cooper?
Starting point is 00:34:44 Probably, but I think you'd probably rather it be Barack Obama. Yeah, I would hate it if the next president continued the policies of Obama. I would prefer he continued the policies of Woodrow fucking Wilson. So there's a couple things I want you to hold on to for a second. This idea about Anderson Cooper, he hates Anderson Cooper. We'll get back to that. And then also the trial. These are two things.
Starting point is 00:35:07 So by Kafka, we have, we have three more clips of Reverend Manning from Alex Jones's show. And then we're going to get into Reverend Manning unfiltered. Oh, yes. Okay. And those two things are going to be very important for future clips. So I'm going to put a pin in it myself, although I really want to talk about it already. Okay. So this is the next one where Reverend Manning explains that he also believes the Black Lives
Starting point is 00:35:32 Matter is trying to cook up a race war. Well, actually what they're doing with items like Black Lives Matter is trying to see which is the most explosive issue to start either a race war. You know, they're talking about taking down the statue of Robert E. Lee there in New Orleans. I'm sure you've been to New Orleans. You've seen the New Orleans, you've seen that statue in front of the St. James Infirmary. You've seen that statue. It's a beautiful statue.
Starting point is 00:35:57 They're talking about taking down the statue of Boregaard, taking down Jefferson Davis. And I got to tell you, they do that. You're going to get the sons of the Confederacy rising up to say the hell no. We've had enough. We don't have a nation left anymore. So we've got to take to arms. What the fuck are you talking about? The testing which will go, Black Lives Matter or fighting the Confederates or the sons
Starting point is 00:36:18 of the Confederates, I think. That's right. They're trying to stir everybody up. Right. Yeah. And to get an explosive situation where the Obamac can then decline. Clara, martial law. And he will become the supreme law person in America and whatever he says goes, there
Starting point is 00:36:34 will be no constitution. Everybody will have any constitutional protection. You, Alex, will not be able to broadcast. I can tell you that right now. They will shut you down like a cheap suit. That's not an expression, but you will shut you down like a cheap suit. Shut that suit down. They will shut you down like a cheap suit.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Shut the suit down. Are you saying that if you wear a cheap suit, it will shut you down? No. Like you'll have a fever or something? I think he's just mixing metaphors. But is it may? I mean, look at that. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:37:04 What he's saying is Black Lives Matter is being created in order to try and antagonize the sons of the Confederates. Why does he not get that the fact that they are there in the first place is a big issue? They're dormant. But that's also an issue. It's a big issue. It's a huge, wait. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Okay. Look, we don't want Black Lives Matter pointing out that we're being murdered by the sons of the Confederacy. No. Because if they do, the sons of the Confederacy are going to murder Black people. Right. And we can't have that. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:36 If we keep it under the surface, it'll just keep happening. Yeah. But if we talk about it, it'll happen. Yeah. I know. That'd be terrible. Stupid. That'd be fucking, that's so dumb.
Starting point is 00:37:44 But then it is also, I mean, the linchpin, the underpinning of his argument is that like, look, don't antagonize racists. Yeah. Don't antagonize these archaic violent racists. So just be subservient to them. Let them be. Yeah. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I love those statues of Beauregard and I wish I was a slave. I mean, it was good stuff. But you know what? Like they might be beautiful statues if they didn't have the context that they did. You know, the ironwork might be great. I don't know. Oh, dude. They, they all, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I don't know if you've seen this or not. There was an incredible statue of a Stalin, right? So beautiful. It was made perfectly. Now yes, it does represent tens of millions of deaths. I would like a statue of that bucket of poop that a son might deliver to Reverend Manning. Let's deliver a statue. The shortest, saddest story, bucket of poop, undelivered.
Starting point is 00:38:45 So in this next clip, they get down and look head on why does Reverend Manning support Donald Trump? Because it seems weird. It seems very weird. Talk Donald Trump. You've got the floor. I mean, let's, I mean, let's talk about why you don't normally support candidates, but you like Trump.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Go ahead. Well, you know, I mean, because the politicians, the politicians, Alex, you know that. And you've seen the way in which our nation has gone over the past generation. So I mean, politicians, they are who they are. They're usually bought and paid for by big money donors like George Soros or even the Koch brothers. And they, though, they owe their allegiance to these persons that pay their bills. And what they do is that they support politicians, support each other, no matter if Democrat
Starting point is 00:39:29 or Republican, and they shaft the people. The reason why I'm supporting Donald Trump is Donald Trump supports the people and shafts the politicians. Listen, Alex, I was in a meeting not long ago at Trump Tower with 80 some preachers, all black preachers, all black pastors, various churches, you know who they are and how they behave themselves. I've been a pastor for over 30 some years and I know the mindset of Christians and the church and how Christians act one towards the other and pastors one towards the other.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Alex, I was with, with, with Donald for three hours. This man sat in a meeting with 83 preachers, most of which, if not all of which, except for me, we're telling him he needed to apologize for roughing up the black lives matter guy that tried to disturb his meeting down in Alabama, I think it was. But he sat there with the kind of patients I've, I don't think Dr. King could have handled those preachers and not just with patients, but he has scary stamina. He has scary stamina. That's one reason I heard.
Starting point is 00:40:35 He has a scary lot of stamina. Incredible. Not stamina. What he was able to do. That scary stamina is a great phrase to identify him. But he did that and not only that, but he, if someone was speaking and mostly it was just garbage coming out of the mouth of these preachers, but he paid attention. Stop beating us up.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I mean, he didn't obfuscate anybody, didn't belittle anybody. He let people talk and even though the meeting ran over time, he still sat there and listened to what they had to say and addressed every, nobody felt the bum rush from Donald Trump. I said, this is my man, I got to support him because he was honest. He was integral. And I think he'll do the same thing with America. Well, I learned some of the inside stuff about it and he's a from a guy. He's certainly not perv.
Starting point is 00:41:20 He's very dominant, very aggressive. The thing they try to demonize. My pussy. People are very hungry for that. That's why they tried to kill it. Right. Absolutely. Yuck.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yuck. He likes him because he went to a meeting and all these other black preachers that he doesn't like were mad at him. He's like, Oh, well, yeah. A millionaire lying about being a billionaire landlord, as we all know, is a man connected with the people. Right. Especially how all of your billionaire landlords are always like, Hey, let me listen to your
Starting point is 00:41:53 concerns. Yeah, especially a millionaire pretending to be a billionaire landlord who's had frequent incidents of not renting to black people. Yeah. Yeah. Who's, uh, whose father was a registered member of the KKK. Yeah. I fucking it.
Starting point is 00:42:07 It's a lot. Of course. Of course he can sit there and listen to you for that long because in his mind, all he's doing is playing a loop of his favorite song. Trump is great. Trump is great. I am Trump. Trump is great.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I am Trump. Trump is I'm sorry. What was that? Yeah. Sure. So I agree. Manning says something that is accidentally alarming. But everybody who loves America loves what Donald is doing.
Starting point is 00:42:34 If he can do this to the political process, Alex, think what he can do to the American government once he sits down in that, in that oval office. Yeah. You nailed it. Did you not see, do you not see how perfectly you nailed it, Manning? If what he's doing in the campaign is what he's going to do in the office. They're fucked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Because what he did in the campaign is like destroying decorum, bucking every convention of decency. Threatened everybody. Yeah. Mocked everybody. Had people kicked out, beaten, suggested that people shoot people. Say the Second Amendment people should murder Hillary Clinton. All of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:16 The Second Amendment people could take care of her. Yeah. Yeah. How that didn't, how that, that's a crime, right? I think so. It's a crime. I think you speak vaguely enough. It's not maybe a crime.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I don't know. Look, who cares? I mean, it's important, but I'm so, I'm so furious today. I just can't, I, I'm, it's like this behavior is so stupid, so silly, so ridiculous. I promise you, I promise you at the end of this, everything is going to be all right. Everything is going to be all right. Okay. At the end.
Starting point is 00:43:51 It's not. The world's still going to suck. It's still going to be fire. This arc is going to be really interesting that we're going to go on. And this first clip of Reverend Manning from his own releases, because that's, that basically sums up all the shit they talk about on the show. This first one, I'm just going to play for you without any comment, no set up necessary. This is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Barak's out there in Honolulu, trying to convince Michelle, this bumper old bomber, by the way, by the way, talking about a righteous man and everything. You hear what I'm saying? Man leading in this home. But if my wife, Elizabeth here, y'all see her. So she is sitting right behind him. You y'all see her. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Y'all see her. She goes with this. Okay. If this woman you see here, see this is my wife, ever greeted me with a fist bump, I'd give her a left hook in the chair. I don't want a woman greeting me like a man. You're not a football player. I'm not a basketball player.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I'm not an athlete. You're supposed to be sweet and dainty. You are a woman. Not a man. I could get that from the boys on the corner. Whoa, boy. You're so crazy. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:45:06 I think that's horrific. But it's what is, it's so crazy. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. My wife ever greeted me with a pound fist bump. I would give her a left hook and that seems, that seems at the very least an overreaction on your part. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:45:29 At the very least. And you know what's fascinating is his wife not fazed by this. I know she's sitting there like, hmm, it seems like no, no, no, no, no. Don't give James a, it would be like if you were her, which you're not because you're not insane. Right. That's one of the reasons wouldn't that be one of those situations where you're just like, wait, did he just say he would punch me if I fist bumped him?
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah. I think it's time for me to go. I think I should. I'm glad that he releases this video because that's public evidence. Yeah. No kid divorce. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Especially it's going to be tough for him to argue. He doesn't beat his wife. Right. Allegation is ever made. Okay. I'm not going to make that kind of accusation. I have no evidence of it, but I do think that he is a closeted homosexual and a massive self loathing black man.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Yeah. And those things will be born out over the course of these clips. This next one is a little long, but it has to play as this entire long clip because it's it's what I think he thinks that this is a really intelligent deconstruction of why he is not a homophobe. I think he thinks everything he says is the most intelligent. Absolutely. But this one is there.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I mean, it's just there's elementary logical problems with this. I need to call everybody together now. Everybody I need. I need diversity here as much as we can possibly get. Now, when I realized that there's not a lot of diversity of people that listen to the Manning report, everybody listen to the Manning report thinks the same way, which is the right way. Listen to the Manning report, except for spies and haters.
Starting point is 00:47:06 But having said that, let me ask you a question. I think we're spies. Would it be a stereotypical bigoted racial statement where I have to say to you that you look like a successful businessman if you came in with a nice suit on a nice shirt and tie and, you know, maybe wingtip shoes or tassel loafers and, you know, do you sense where this is going? Is businessman a race, Stan? I think you sense where this is going.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I think I'm going to get to the bottom of this. It actually gets weirder than you think. Is it a bigoted racial statement to say you look like a nice businessman? Uh-huh. Uh, no. I think you know why, too. I think it should be very simple and easy to explain why that is not a bigoted racial statement.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Uh-huh. Okay. Let's see where this goes. Let's see where this goes. Okay. And you were carrying on the Tashay case. You know, you, you, you clean shaven, you look like a successful businessman. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:48:02 Got nice facts. Would that be stereotypical bigoted races or what, what do you think? However, if you came in and you looked a little effeminate and your dress looked a little soft, you're a pair of peril, looked a little soft and your gestures, your eyes and your, whether you held your shoulders in, without, with or what, made you look like someone who you knew was indeed actually out of the closet homosexual. And so I said to you, you know, or I said to someone else, but maybe I wouldn't say it to you.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I said, you know, he looks like a homo homosexual. Is that racist or stereotypical or is it bigotry? It's not racist. It's not racist. I mean, is one right and the other wrong or they both wrong? No. It's what I want to try to ask. And what I do want to say is it right to make perceptions that one of the oldest and most
Starting point is 00:48:56 enduring proverbs of our times or times prior to our times, maybe of Socrates times, maybe, you know, is, you know, first impressions are best impressions, something of that order, right? You heard that before. No. So what I want to know from you, is it judgeable by its cover? If I say that someone looks like a homosexual, is that bigotry? Or if I say someone looks like a successful businessman, or if I say someone looks like
Starting point is 00:49:29 an athlete, you know, is that bigotry? If I raise such a statement in the midst of general conversation, well, having said that, let me say this, CNN has got a number of people broadcasting for them that look like homosexual. You know, he looks like a homosexual. Don Lemon, who on this past Saturday night while doing an interview with three members of the short-legged Mac Daddy Bishop Eddie Long's church, that he had been molested when he was a young boy. And so, and he looks like, I mean, Don Lemon, if you put a blonde wig on him, I do declare
Starting point is 00:50:10 he looked just like Barbie, you know, what he does. And then you've got Tony Harris, who's an old-school homosexual. I think that's a great statement. He's from an old school, but he still looks like a homosexual to me. Is that bigotry? Yes. Tell me. Is that stereotypical bigotry for saying that?
Starting point is 00:50:30 And if so, then it would have to be stereotypical bigotry if I see a man in a well-dressed suit and I see a young boy, you know, in a black neighborhood or somewhere close on the fridges of a black man, but what's passed down below is his butt and strings are not laced and he's got a couple of rings in his ear. Can I say, well, you look like a gang member who's got on a red bandana. Would I be? Would I be? Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:59 This guy is crazy. Yes, you would be. Oh, I love that's exactly how that works. This guy, how can you be exactly right on your, that's so fucking stupid. Well, I mean, it just doesn't, he's just missing the step of like, why is it different? A business man in a homosexual, he kind of doesn't understand race or gender or take the race part out of it and just imagine the homosexual and the businessman examples that he uses.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Right. He's missing the part of the argument that he should be having as opposed to the one he's trying to present is what is it about these two nouns that are different? Right. If you were to explore that a little bit, it would become very clear, very quick why a lot of the things that he's basing his assessment of what a homosexual is are bigoted stereotypes that he's very beholden to. He's obsessed with gay people.
Starting point is 00:51:55 If I see a man dressed and I am going to describe his dress very specifically and very detailed and I say he's a businessman now that that bigoted now also also that business man were gay and I punched him because he was gay. Right. Is that bigoted? A little also. So there's a gangbanger. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:21 All right. He's coming in on the fringes of the black community. All right. Now, is he a businessman? Maybe. Exactly. So that's why I hate gay people. So now there's another piece to unpack and that is like right or wrong about the businessman
Starting point is 00:52:35 and you don't have any judgment that you're placing towards whether or not he's a businessman. Well with James David Manning, whether or not someone is a homosexual is very important in terms of his judgment of that person. Right. As we know, sodomites left poo in a bucket. Right. He hates it. That was actually Don Lemon who did that.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Also, I didn't have time to pull. He was wearing a wig at the time though so he couldn't. I didn't have time to pull all these clips like because there's so much more you can find. There's a clip where he admits to like doing gay shit in prison. So like, like, so this whole thing is just a crusade against that he was, he feels guilty about giving some dude a blowjob once. I think there's a big piece of it.
Starting point is 00:53:19 That sounds about right. There's a lot of like, and he's talked about struggling with gay thoughts and stuff like that. Of course. Like all this is so clearly like every single piece of it is this massive self loathing, whether it is for being black or for having gay thoughts, those sorts of things. He just lashes out at all these communities and it's, it that part's not funny, but everything else is fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:53:43 So this next clip, this next clip, he's responding to a piece of viewer mail and he realizes pretty quick that the, the viewer is mocking him and he rolls with it admirably and then sort of renounces his blackness. Oh boy. Pastor Manning, we will be introducing our new product, Triple Stuff Oreos with the Hispanic community and would like to place your image on the package. Oh, I see what this is. This is funny.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Wow. You're overheated attempt to gain national exposure by attacking the parents of Barack Obama may fall on deaf ears. Your picture on our triple stuff Oreos is truly a match. So he, uh, he went on a crusade to out fat, uh, yeah, he's pretty fat. Okay. The also, he went on a crusade, uh, around the election to be his big quote was, uh, you know, Obama's got a black face, but I told you he's got a white mama.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And so he makes a big deal out of the idea that that's not a problem. No. You're calling that a problem. That's a bigoted statement. Right. Okay. So that we can, can we establish that's what that's in reference to about the idea that your campaign against Barack Obama's parents fell on deaf ears.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Right. Uh, so now let's see where he goes with this Oreo shit. Okay. Made in heaven. After all, while no person can choose their parents, America still have the right to choose their favorite cookie. You of all people must agree, uh, to it, uh, and, uh, it's all, uh, it's all about the dope disingenuously Jose bold.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I'm not a black. Don't call me black. You can call me an Oreo. Someone call me a triple stuffed Oreo. I said, kick it up one more notch. Triple is not good enough for me. I'm a quadruple stuffed Oreo black on the outside and I do not think black on the inside that's right.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I do not think, I think white on the inside man, man, passive manning, are you sure about that? Absolutely. I don't think like black folk. Have you seen how decrepit, how destructive, how broken they are? Have you seen what they've done to themselves over the last 1500 years exactly thinking that got them there? Cause the Bible says as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he not the color of his skin.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And in fact, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said, don't judge the man by the color of the Oreo on the outside, but judge the man by the color of the cream on the inside. He did not say that. No. What are you talking about? You're talking about the mess with me. I done changed Dr. King and I done made, somebody, can I get somebody out there to put this to a wrap?
Starting point is 00:56:41 B. Alright, here we go again. Some white person. Here's the deal. One wrote to me the other day and said that I'm a triple stuff Oreo. And I said that a triple stuff Oreo ain't enough for me. Make me a quadruple stuff Oreo and then I went on to say that I'm black on the outside. But I don't think like black people do on the inside.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Do you mean what? That's 1500 years of nothing but brokenness of failure and inability to rise above being number one on the bottom of the world. So sure. Register. Oh, yeah. So that's his attempt at making a song. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:25 That's not good. No, no, the meter is really problematic. I think I think that may be his ultimate issue with the black community. He has no connection to music whatsoever. He lacks the rhythm inherent to a lot of the musical genres. 1500 years. Why would you pick that number? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I don't know. I can't unpack anything other than that song would not be a hit. It would. It would be a hit. And you see, you see him just didn't you hear the people at Charlottesville singing that song when they came back the other night? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Can we just kill them? I mean, we can't. It's wrong still. But I feel like it's not wrong anymore boy. It's getting wild. I feel like it's not wrong anymore. Oh, man. I mean, I know there are crimes, but then there's, then there's not crimes.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Right. And I feel like that would not be a crime anymore. Right. I don't know, man. That's like saying it's a crime to kill Nazis. It is, I think. In World War Two. No, but that's because it was World War Two.
Starting point is 00:58:23 See, we're, we're fighting World War Three or not World War Three. We're, we're, we're refighting the Civil War right now. Civil War Two. Yeah. Now you're getting really dangerously close to Alex's rhetoric and I'm uncomfortable with that. But. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:58:36 It's 1861, 2.0, buddy. So in this next clip, we get a, we get, you know, that would be a way better. If Alex had come out and said it's 1861, 2.0, I would have been like, all right, you are correct. I don't like it anymore than 1776, but you did nail it. Yeah. I think both are bad, but be that as a mate, this next clip, we get Reverend Manning back in the church.
Starting point is 00:59:03 He's back behind the pulpit. He's given it. In his wife. What for? One more time. This is weird. This clip is very weird. It is a shame and a scandalous.
Starting point is 00:59:15 It is a shame and a scandalous that there are not more people outspoken from this community like myself. Now I want you to think about this for just a second. Just think about it in fairness and honesty. You don't have to change your opinion about Barack or about me. What have we come to as a people when we are a saying to elect a president whose middle name we are ashamed to pronounce? Who's ashamed?
Starting point is 00:59:51 Why do we have to hide the middle name of the man that would be president of America? There's something wrong with that. I don't think anybody hit it. Still on plex. There is something wrong with the fact that we can't pronounce his middle name. There is something wrong with that. I'm not sure. One, if you think a scandalous is a word, you absolutely cannot understand how to pronounce
Starting point is 01:00:19 his name. Also, he's hitting the wha exactly like Alex did. Oh yeah. I think it might be a giveaway that you're into something wrong. You're on the wrong side of things if you hit white and all that shit. He needs to check his white privilege. Yeah. I just, I mean, going back to the clip before this, it's fascinating that he's saying Martin
Starting point is 01:00:39 Luther King said it's not the color of the cookie on the outside, but the color of the cream on the inside. Yeah. I remember that. That's bizarre. I remember that. That's such a... Don't you remember that?
Starting point is 01:00:50 That's such the opposite. Yeah. No, it doesn't get worse than that. Yeah. That's the wrong lesson. It doesn't matter if you're black on the outside so long as you are white on the inside. I remember Martin Luther King Jr. specifically saying, let's all be white on the inside. Sure.
Starting point is 01:01:06 So Reverend Manning, he talks a lot of shit as we say. He talks a lot of mad shit, but he's also a man of action. Well, that's worse. And in this clip, we find out about some of his action and I assure you this is going to lead to a very funny story. I'd like to give you an update on where we are on the trial. I told you we've got a fellow named Dave who's coming in from Idaho. Dave doesn't have a car, doesn't have an airline fare or bus fare to get here, but he wants
Starting point is 01:01:37 to be here at the trial. And Dave has made a commitment. He called the office on Monday and said he's going to be hitchhiking all the way from Idaho here to New York for the May 14th fall of the gavel of the trial in the 7th day March around Columbia University. So what did you take away from that? So Dave from Idaho, who's hitchhiking, who's broke beyond reason, is going to hitchhike all the way from Idaho to Harlem for the trial.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Yeah. Do you know what trial that is? No. James David Manning put on a mock trial that he pretended was real. He was putting Obama on trial that he's ineligible to be president and I have a write up here. Is this Clint Eastwood talking to a chair all over again? It might as well have been. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:27 He claimed 30,000 people were going to show up. The actual attendance was somewhere in the neighborhood of 75. It was Dave from Idaho. A reporter from salon was there or at least had some pictures that he took documented. He gave up because it was supposed to be, it was supposed to be a seven day March. Oh, how did that go? I don't know if he made it all seven days, but he was predicting that on the seventh day when they march Christ would rise.
Starting point is 01:02:52 No, that Obama would step down as president. He was going to make him step down in 2010 that he would not live out the term and he's going to be so ashamed by this mock trial. So here we go. Dr. James David Manning, the outlaw world ministry church calls this the trial of the century and the greatest trial in American history. He says the proceedings are not a mock trial and are permitted under the U S constitute. Making a mistake about it.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Where does it say that? Make a mistake. Martin Luther King, Jr. say that this is a mock trial. It's permitted. So, I mean, yes, it is clearly permitted because he was not arrested. It's basically a pageant. You know, you're putting on a show. So in Debbie Kidd's article, Obama's lies fraud came special counselor Patrick Fitzgerald
Starting point is 01:03:46 open an investigation. She said, quote, the trial, which will include a legal legal scholars and retired court officials will examine several issues, including Obama's birthplace, his citizenship status, his academic credentials and alleged ties to the CIA as a student. Dr. Manning coined the term the long legged Mac Daddy to represent Obama, Reverend Manning has intestinal fortitude in the face of adversity. He stands on honor and principle, and we should thank him for remaining steadfast in his beliefs and for having the courage to face the Obama machine.
Starting point is 01:04:16 This is one heck of a man of courage with convictions to spare. Obama's Marxist agenda and Obama himself cannot prevail. Let the trial begin and may they find Obama guilty. The mainstream media is not covering this trial, which is true. There are a couple articles on salon that aren't articles, they're just little blurs. The only thing I could find here is on a WordPress blog that someone has written this up. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:41 The mainstream media is not covering this trial and very little information is being reported. Conservative monster, that's another blog, is attending the trial and blogging information and writing the updates and his take on the trial. Let's get the information out through emails and whatever other ways are possible. I thought world net daily was covering this trial, but I haven't seen any articles as of today. So we got, we get some updates. Day one consisted of a protest march around Columbia.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Later on, the indictments were read. The indictments were handed down via a grand jury. No they weren't. And the subpoenas were refused by Columbia University and the Obama administration. Direct violation of the constitution, Dan. It was not a real grand jury. Don't you remember in the constitution where it said, do not judge a subpoena by the cracker on the outside, but judge it instead by the cheese on the inside.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Absolutely. That's exactly what the constitution. So here are the indictments. Oh yes, please, please read them all to me. Columbia University in his voice, Columbia University. That's terrible. And Obama conspired to defraud and commit wire fraud and mail fraud. Columbia University knowingly concealed the fact that Obama is not a natural born citizen.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Columbia University aided in obstruction of justice. Obama fraudulently obtained office of president of the United States, gaining access to sensitive materials, posing a danger to national security. So of note, the prosecution dropped the charges of treason and espionage to avoid complications with a death sentence. That's wonderful. I'm glad that even in the fake trial they're like, hold on, I don't think we're gonna get them on these counts.
Starting point is 01:06:15 This is gonna be too complicated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now we go on. I don't think we have enough evidence to convict him of treason. So 75 or so people marched around Columbia University. I mean, frankly, if he's not a natural born citizen, he can't commit treason. No, it's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:29 So there you go. A couple people walked around Columbia University on day one. Now day two comes along. Yes. Day two of the Columbia trial started off with an alternate judge presiding over the case. The other one had to recuse himself. He was too, he was too black.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Jan, Joan, uh, Jan Johnson is one of Pastor Manning's loyal church followers. And she's also aspiring to run for governor of New York. Judge Unger is reportedly returning for Sunday's hearings. Okay, good. Car broke down or something like that. Who knows? His name is Dave from Idaho. Judge Johnson then instructed the jury not to discuss the case outside of the courtroom.
Starting point is 01:07:03 They should remain to keep an open mind, not to make a decision or final determination as far as the verdict. This is a horse and pony show where one of his church congregants is the judge, the fake judge, right? And he is the prosecutor. I think, I think the jury is not going to be a partial jury at all. Who's the defense attorney? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Probably like a sack of potatoes. Who knows? Uh, a big bag of Oreos. Yeah. Or a bucket of poop. Yeah. Uh, Pastor Manning then stated that George Washington never had the powers that Barack Hussein Obama has.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Manning then mentioned that Obama has an ability to manipulate the media and people unlike any other politician today. This has given Obama even more power. Manning then suspiciously states that he would not be surprised if Obama sent a plant to infiltrate the jury to undermine his trial. Woo. Who would he send? Who's he going to send?
Starting point is 01:07:59 I don't know. That would be Malia. So then there's a list of some, uh, some, some very not credible, uh, Don Lemon wearing a blonde wig. Uh, is, is, he has some non-credible judge, uh, jury, uh, not jury, uh, witnesses. Uh-huh. Uh, so he, he, he, he, can the judge also be the witness that's, uh, Jan Johnson.
Starting point is 01:08:24 You are the judge, but I also call you to the stand. One of his witnesses is his mailman. Oh, well that, okay. Who, uh, alleges in, uh, this very not real court that, uh, the, uh, the, uh, he, Obama's thing is stamped with a two-digit year and no one would ever do that. So he got his mailman to go on record with that. Well, that's, that's a concrete case. Bentley then testified that Orly Tate, uh, Tate's hired two investigators and they determined
Starting point is 01:08:53 that Obama reportedly had over 30 different social security numbers that came up in the computer when his name was entered. Bentley then alleged that the number Obama is currently using is from a man that was born in 1890 in Connecticut. She then noted that Obama never lived in Connecticut and I mean, I don't understand why you need that part. You don't need that part. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:09:15 So they also have to prove that he never lived in Connecticut. Otherwise, they could not definitively prove that he was not 120 years old. He could be a vampire. He could be a vampire. So she then, that's why he has so many social security numbers because he's lived for thousands of years. Yeah. Uh, so Bentley also mentioned that if you ran Obama's social security number in the computer,
Starting point is 01:09:36 the results came up as Barack Obama, but the number did not belong to him. Not sure. That way. No, that doesn't make sense. So here's where the postal worker gets involved. Yes. Manning then called one of his elders, Jeff Smith, to take the stand due to the fact that he is a postal worker the past 25 years.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Manning then asked him about the controversy over the two digit and four digit years. Smith testified that the post office always uses four digits when the stamp documents and that he was unsure how Obama's selective service card had only a two digit year stamped on it. So there's a bunch of nonsense and then how weird would it be if you lived in Harlem and you all of a sudden discovered that your mail was being delivered by a black white supremacist. I went to Allah.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yeah. That would be a strange day. So the rest of it, I mean, it's interesting to me that the coverage of the case just stops after day two, which leads me to believe that the case stopped after day two. They may not have made it to day three. It's entirely possible. And so this court was not real. It was nonsense.
Starting point is 01:10:39 But it's like the mental picture of the original judge who was supposed to be there who I don't think was a judge. I don't think either of them are real judges. No. But the person, I just imagine, you know how like if you run a show and someone cancels last minute, you have to sort of scramble to try and get it taken care of, find a replacement. I imagine fucking Reverend Manning just sitting there like, fuck, I need a new fake judge. Just going through his text threads.
Starting point is 01:11:04 All the elders of his church is being like, you got to come play a judge. Yeah. The fake being a judge. Wait, you have aspirations to be governor, right? That's judge worthy. It's judge. Yeah. So this next clip.
Starting point is 01:11:16 This is one of my favorite things that James David Manning has alleged over the years. This one actually went a little bit viral. So some people may know about this one, but boy, is it fun. This is great. I want to inform you that the Sonomites led a protest against our church this past Sunday. Shocking. Several members of the Pennsylvania Oath Keepers came up, you know, the fellows that was with us out there at Gettysburg, well, we had a special meeting this Sunday here
Starting point is 01:11:49 at the church. They came up and we were meeting and someone informed me that the Sonomites were outside of our church protesting. So we went out and took a look, and they were, and they had a big bucket of Starbucks coffee and all kind of the Starbucks para-fanalia with them. They like coffee. And they were all shouting, stop the hate now. They said that this church is a hate church.
Starting point is 01:12:15 It is. And I'm a hate preacher. And Pike Roast is great. But remember that last week, we appeared in several major online news services, Huffington Post being a major one, the Inquisitor being another, what else, Gay Star News, I think was one. Just several papers wrote articles about us because we had stated that Starbucks is ground zero for Ebola.
Starting point is 01:12:39 And we pointed out how these homosexual Sonomite persons such as Dr. Craig Spencer, who lives right here in the Harlem area, who is a Sonomite, that they frequent, that Starbucks is a place where these types frequent and a lot of body fluids are exchanged there. Hold on. But the thing that I was not aware of is that there had been some information that had been released and the Inquisitor News Online News Service carried this as a major story the week before that what Starbucks was doing is that they were taking specimens of male semen and they were putting it in the blends of their latte.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Yep. This is the absolute truth. Yeah. It's not. Absolutely. No. No. What?
Starting point is 01:13:37 You think they use milk? That shit's expensive. His argument breaks down. You go down the street, you get a gallon of semen. His argument breaks down to basically the gays like to eat semen and they have a great time. And so Starbucks has Ebola. Because they want people to have more of a fun time and get this demon semen inside
Starting point is 01:13:54 you. And so they stealthily put it into Starbucks lattes. I love this. But it's ground zero for Ebola? Because of the semen and because apparently gay people fuck in the bathrooms. Yeah. But that's not Ebola. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I think. Where does the... Okay. I think... Scientifically... But Ebola is sexually transmitted but it's also way easier than that. Yeah. You can...
Starting point is 01:14:19 It's... Look. You can sexually transmit an airborne disease. That's true. Yeah. But look. He's not an epidemiologist. He's not a doctor.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Have you gone to his university? I'll tell you this right now. You can get an epidemiology degree from him. He may actually have one. That's fair. Of course he does. This is just great. This is classic James David Manning shit.
Starting point is 01:14:41 This is my kind of stuff. The idea that he's going... Now Starbucks is putting semen in the pike roast. And you know that because the Sodom mice... Also, there's Miranda. Fair. All right. I shouldn't have called you out.
Starting point is 01:14:57 I'm bad. And the Sodomites, you know it's true because they were drinking coffee outside my church. They put piss in the Miranda because it's a lighter blend. Because it's a lighter blood. Yeah. Of course. You still got to get Ebola in there. Well, I mean, look at this.
Starting point is 01:15:13 So he's saying that there's information that has come out. He has no fucking sources on this. It's the same game Alex played. Right, right, right. But he's just crazier. Of course. He's just... He's letting it loose.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Yeah. Oh yeah. This is great. And it all really... He's thinking high, Alex. More or less. But he's not high. No.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Man, he's not high. He's just not. He's high on white. Yeah. So the thing is, I think if we break it down, I think that Reverend Manning feels left out. I think there's a big piece of it that like all these Sodomites and like targeting Starbucks and stuff like that is like, I don't get to have fun. I don't get to enjoy what everyone else enjoys and he's bummed out about it.
Starting point is 01:15:56 And then on top of that, he's repressing homosexual urges. And he can't understand that he's the reason he's not having fun. Yes. He thinks that everybody else is the barrier all the while it was him or perhaps his white creamy center. Yeah. All that cream. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:13 And I mean, we don't have time to get into it and to get super repetitive. But when I say that I believe he is a repressed homosexual, I say that based on having listened to tons of clips of him, where he's like really talking about homosexuality and kind of like the way he speaks about it is weird. Yes. Yeah. There is a like a sensualizing of stuff that doesn't need to be sensualized. Now these men with their abs and their pecs, they walk around with their tight jeans and
Starting point is 01:16:43 they inspire me to have these thoughts that I can't have. And he talks about how they're going to get you and stuff like that. It's like, come on, man. It's very clear. He thinks homosexuality is zombie is more or less. Got you. And Ebola. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:58 So in 2015, December of 2015, he comes on Alex Jones's show. I think we've laid out pretty clearly. He's a lunatic. Right. Now I just want him to name like three other diseases. Is Ebola the only one he knows, which is why he's throwing that out there. You know what? Like because it because I mean, if you're going to be an raging homophobic monster,
Starting point is 01:17:19 you go with HIV, caribou coffee is ground zero for the whooping cough. And don't even get me started on obon pan. That's going to be a high class disease like consumption. It's not high class. That's tuberculosis. Excuse me. So like I said, he's a little hysteria. I believe he's where you get speaking of hysterical people, fucking this dude.
Starting point is 01:17:46 So he's on in December of 2015, right when Alex has made his full jump into being on team Trump. And he tells Alex, I've made it a mission to try and get Trump in the office. Right. And here's what's interesting. I'd lost track of James David Manning. He had just blended into the background since the time that he said that the sodomites were putting semen in lattes, right?
Starting point is 01:18:09 I went to his YouTube page and I found a video that he released just the other day that is a little bit interesting. Okay. I think. Do you think does he regret perhaps Trump getting elected? I don't know, but this clip is actually about Alex Jones. Oh, shit. Let me ask you a question, Sam, but I, you know, I've been friends with Alex Jones for
Starting point is 01:18:34 quite some time. I have not been on his broadcast recently because I don't want to go on Alex broadcast and sharply disagree with him and then say the things I've said about Tribulation Trump and Tribulation Trump supporters. So I, you know, I actually turned down the invitation to be on Alex Jones and I kind of made it plain to him into, but so he doesn't support Trump anymore. He calls him Tribulation Trump. He believes that he's bringing in the end times.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Yeah. He begs the question, did he support him originally secretly in order to bring in, but I don't think that's the case. What? Yeah. As a man of the cloth, so to speak, he may be a little bit too close to the end times. It's possible. Or he's right.
Starting point is 01:19:26 What do you mean? I mean, a, a broken Oreo is right twice a day quadruple stuff. Exactly. So I want to, I want to just pull up real quick his, his YouTube page and give you a little bit of a rundown of some of his recent videos because the titles of them include stuff such as Donald Trump is the voice of the racists. You know, he's, he's turned right. And I don't know exactly what made him turn, but I don't care to go do an investigation
Starting point is 01:20:04 into him, but that deeply is one of those videos. I'm so glad to announce that I am coming out as gay. That would be great. That would be a good one. Here's the most recent video that was posted two days ago and we're recording this on Sunday. It's collusion everybody about how Russian collusion is real. Here's how Trump bad is black white supremacists hate him. There's no hope for white people.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Get your little hands off Twitter, you nasty little critter and his picture of Trump with tiny hands. Classic white trash, a picture of Trump and a picture of Trump supporters. Let's see if we can find some other good ones here. Trump is the voice of racists in America. I'm a victim of police brutality. I don't need to unpack that. He also used to be a really big advocate of being against socialism and socialized medicine.
Starting point is 01:20:55 He talks about how Barack Obama is trying to destroy the country with all that. And then he got sick. He has a video from a week ago. Health care is a right and it's a picture of Bernie Sanders. Something fucking happened. I mean, I think, I think what really is a Russian man, a white person. Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Maybe he found out how awful we actually are. Trump calls athletes, SOBs. Will Trump pardon Paul Manafort? There may be Russian death threats. Is he is he on it now? Like is he did he have a come to Jesus moment? I don't fucking know. Trump is creepy.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Will Michael. Well, that one, that one's a little bit soft. Will Michael Cohen flip? Like he's he's on it fucked up. It's so fucked up. The I like Sanders insurance plan. God damn it. Where were you?
Starting point is 01:21:50 Trump fucking idiot. Trump has a pompadour. What? Well, that's true. Yeah. Michael Flynn never expected to be in government again. That's why I'm kicking Trump's rump. Well, I don't like I don't see this is the thing.
Starting point is 01:22:04 He's really bad at rhyming, but like what are we doing? What happened? Like at the end of this episode, you couldn't possibly have imagined that the end result would be in 2017. He's going against Trump. He's going after him. I mean, he I guess he didn't know what white supremacy really was possibly or maybe got a payout or something like that.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Who knows? Got to him. Oh, okay. I bet that's what Alex would say. Of course. Yeah. I don't know. But anyway, here's a here's the last clip I'm going to play.
Starting point is 01:22:35 That must be terrible for Alex because he really wanted a black person on. Well, now he has that Brandon Tatum. He's got that guy who put out a video about how the NFL players need to shut up and he is the new non white male guy, the new quadruple stuff to I'm not comfortable with signing off on that. But sure. So in this last clip, this is from 2017, a very recent clip, Reverend Manning talking about Trump.
Starting point is 01:23:02 And there is further and more grievous destruction on the way, according to God's word with respect to the tribulation and the fact that tribulation Trump that Donald Trump is in the office, illegal illegally of the president of the United States of America. Yikes. So I would I would argue, actually, it's not reasonable. And what he's doing is that he realized that his brand works a lot better if he's scaring people. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:23:31 And that he's always been the guy that you can go to to like get your daily dose of being like attacking the president. Right. I mean, if you hate if you hated Obama, so he was he was significantly smarter than Alex Jones in that regard. I believe because it's like, oh, I hate I hate Obama because he's the president. So I'm going to support the guy who hates Obama the most. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:55 And then Trump becomes president. And rather than supporting Trump, he's like, well, I hate the guy who's president now. So I love the guy who hates Trump the most, Bernie, right? Or all of us conspiracy theorists and propagandists like these guys legitimately only work as underdogs. Right. They can't be in power or else they realize that they become an apparatus of the state, which is what we've seen Alex turn into right.
Starting point is 01:24:20 But see, the thing is the different paths that they've gone down is Reverend Manning realized that element of the game and he's like, fuck, I've got to turn on Trump or else this game doesn't work. And whatever amount of money he's making is enough to run a church in Harlem. Like it's a big building. Yeah. So he's making enough for that, which is, which is something also he doesn't pay his taxes.
Starting point is 01:24:40 I just learned I'm going to get into that in a second. Well, I mean, but Alex under the Constitution, he doesn't have to. Well, he can just have a trial about it. We talked to Jan Johnson over there and he's like, uh, judge, judge, Jim governor. They also had a fake election. Yeah. Whereas Alex, what he decided to do instead is create a false narrative where they're still the underdogs, even though he's the mouthpiece of someone in power.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Right. And it's, it's kind of interesting. Even though he's a state run propaganda outlet. So now about this tax thing. I want to leave everyone with this. This is an article from Gawker and it's a splinter. Yeah. No more, but this is an old article, it's splinter news.
Starting point is 01:25:21 It has the same layout as Gawker. That's what I thought. Yeah. Well, the, the actual website Gawker is gone, but Jezebel and Deadspin and all of those websites, right? They stuck around. Okay. So it's, it's one of the family.
Starting point is 01:25:33 So splinter is essentially Gawker after a year or a couple of years of Gawker being gone. They're like, that's fine, but I mean, we're still going to do it. Right. Right. Cause it's fucking stupid that you shut us down in the first place. You guys are the monsters. So we're just going to keep going.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Agreed. Yeah. So on this splinter article from February of 2016, this homophobic preacher's worst nightmare is about to come true. This is about Reverend Manning. On the coldest Valentine's Day weekend in Harlem since 1916, Pastor James David Manning had the fires of hell on his mind. In less than two weeks, his church was due to be foreclosed upon quote, this is a sodomite
Starting point is 01:26:11 government land grab. He told his congregants outside a sign advertising the church, a forced four story brick and terracotta building on the corner of West 123rd Street and Lenox Avenue reads Jesus would endorse Donald Trump. As the chief pastor of Otlaw Worldwide ministry since 1981, Manning is infamous for preaching homophobia and vulgar conspiracy theories. Not just from his pulpit in Harlem live streamed twice each Saturday on YouTube, but also his daily internet program, the Manning report.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Before the recent foreclosure controversy, Otlaw church was probably best known for hosting a mock trial of Barack Obama in which the president was convicted convicted in abstentia on 17 counts, including trees and fraud and sedition, but they dropped to those counts. Apparently they said, oh, man, or I'm telling you, it's possible that this reporting is a little off because as when that goes to the appeals court, they are going to throw those out. Today's sermon had begun benignly enough. We thank God for making it back from the ski trip safe and sound.
Starting point is 01:27:13 He said to about 70 worshipers, nearly all of them black women, many of them with young children. His own wife was seated behind him at the altar. Soon though Manning had to address the elephant in the room. Last month, a state judge ordered the building into foreclosure, citing $1.02 million in unpaid taxes. An auction is scheduled to take place on February 24th and in the stroke of divine irony, two LGBT service organizations have launched fundraising campaigns to buy the property.
Starting point is 01:27:42 The day of reckoning was getting closer. Manning says he believed the court order is invalid on legal grounds because he has a law degree from his own school. He says it has to do with water and sewage taxes that should fall under religious exception rules. But according to public records obtained by the website DNAInfo, there are at least nine federal tax liens standing against the church, among other debts, despite $186,000 in tax exemption benefits already granted.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Manning said he believes the case to be political retribution for his attacks on Obama, who believes is a Taliban-trained terrorist who killed his own grandmother. Quote, they wish to shut me up, cease my ability to amass power and influence, he said in his sermon, but he pledged to fight. I will continue to pursue Obama until he's in prison, and I believe God has given me the power to do that. Then, Manning apologized to the congregation. He had been deficient before, he said, in describing President Obama's late mother,
Starting point is 01:28:39 Stanley Ann Dunham. Quote, not only was she a slut, but she was a two-pair-a-dirty underwear slut. He said, there were murmurs of amen from the pews in the third row, a toddler in a three-piece suit played with the rings on his grandmother's fingers, which she held behind her back as she solemnly bowed her head listening. All right, journalist, that's a little bit of a flir she didn't need. Well, we're going to get to why I am continuing to read this article, because it's, you know, we'll get to something that is cool.
Starting point is 01:29:09 So wait, this is recent. This is 2016. Oh, this is 2016. Yeah, this is a year ago. So his church has already been shut down. I think it might have been. Yeah. I'm not entirely sure.
Starting point is 01:29:20 I should have looked that up, and I will in a second, but the reason that I want to get through this or get down to it is in a spectacular piece of fun, one of the groups that was trying to buy the property is the Ali Forney Center, which is the homeless LGBTQ charity and housing organization that we have donated to in the past, and we encourage people to donate to the Ali Forney Center, which serves homeless LGBT youth has raised at least $200,000 towards the purchase of Outlaw Church rivers of living water and LGBT spiritual group nearby in Harlem has raised significantly less money for the effort. The Ali Forney Center is a critical organization of an estimated 1.6 million kids who experience
Starting point is 01:30:15 homelessness each year. 40% are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, according to the Williams Institute, a sex and gender research group at the University of California, Los Angeles. One survey of homeless LGBT youth in New York found that about half were black. The most common reason they gave for being homeless is rejection by their family, the Williams Institute found. They are more likely to drop out of school due to harassment and bullying, facing poverty and unemployment challenges, many of them turned to sex work.
Starting point is 01:30:40 They are victims of disproportionate violence too. In 1997, the Ali Forney Center's namesake, a gender non-conforming teen who had moved to the city's shelter system was shot in the head in Harlem, just 12 blocks away from Outlaw. Before he was murdered, Forney would sometimes sleep on the hill in Marcus Garvey Park, just at the end of Outlaw's block. He was known for agitating for police investigations into the deaths of his queer friends. Several 200 homeless gay and transgender youth are on the waiting list for a bed every night,
Starting point is 01:31:13 the group says. Covenant Group, another New York organization that caters to homeless youth, has to turn away 70 to 80 young people every month due to lack of capacity. Taking over the Outlaw church would allow Ali Forney Center to put a roof over more heads every night, according to Carl Cisliano, its executive director. They also wanted to run a catering business to feed homeless youths. It's almost like it would be awesome if Christians were in the fucking church. Yeah, I'm looking this up here.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Or I mean people who actually hear what it says on Wikipedia. In January 2016, a state ordered the Outlaw worldwide church to be sold at public foreclosure auction after failing to pay creditors more than $1.02 million. The church maintains they are afforded tax exempt status by the New York Supreme Court and are not liable for the fines, citing the court's ruling of December 2004. Ali Forney Center announced their interest in acquiring for the purposes of an LGBT youth homeless services center and raised a temporary stay on the sale was granted pending a full hearing on the 21st of April 2016.
Starting point is 01:32:24 In September, the judgment of foreclosure was vacated, so they still own the property. God damn it. Yeah, that sucks. God damn it. But. That could have gone to helping people. Right. That could have gone to actually doing God's work.
Starting point is 01:32:38 Jordan, that's bad news for everybody, but the good news is. I mentioned this on Saturday to the pulpit that someone, someone, so there's always that. Yeah, there is that. But I wanted to end this clip or this episode where we were talking about this horrible bigot and this self loathing homosexual, probably black, white, supremacist, with, you know, just a reminder that there are great organizations out there and there are tons of them that aren't necessarily the ones that we, you know, support.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Absolutely. And so it's great, you know, hearing stuff like that really is a reminder of the realities of the intersections of the world that we talk about this crazy bigot propaganda conspiracy theorist world and people who are really trying to help and people who are not being able to help because of these bigots. Absolutely. So that is a reminder that all this shit is fucking real. Yeah, no kidding.
Starting point is 01:33:39 It sucks that we have to live in the world that we live in, but we do. Anyway, we have. I don't know. I don't know what we're going to do, man. I don't either. I don't know. Like every day you. We should be burning shit down, right?
Starting point is 01:33:55 Like we're at the stage now. It is where everybody's fucking insane. Yeah, it's all crazy. We're all just we're all in this place. Where we're kind of like children again, just like we were in the, in the run up to the election of it's like, well, sooner or later, the adults are going to step in. Yeah. Sooner or later, there's going to be somebody who's reasonable, who is going to get in the
Starting point is 01:34:16 way and there's no, there's nobody coming. Yeah, there's nobody coming. There's no reinforcements. No, it is, it is us. And there's no, like. What you're trying to say is be the, be the change you wish to see in the world. Well, it's kind of that. Or, or, well, don't be fine.
Starting point is 01:34:31 I was kind of. The change I want to see in the world is just a lot more fire. I was, I was sincerely considering starting a hunger strike. For, for what? I don't know. Just a general, just a general hunger strike. Go on a fast or something like that. That'd be fun.
Starting point is 01:34:45 I don't know. I had somebody text me earlier, like, well, if you want to make a change, you need to get, you know, more people to vote. And I'm just sitting there going like, until we get rid of the oligarchs, that does not matter. Voting doesn't really, I mean, people should vote, but it doesn't really. It doesn't, it's, it's not doing it. Like who, who allowed all of this shit to occur?
Starting point is 01:35:09 Who created this, this whole circumstance? The people that we fucking voted for. Right. The problems with the gerrymandering and cross check and those sorts of disenfranchisement campaigns that have been, uh, uh, enacted by these oligarchs. Or, or just our, our lesser of two evils, uh, uh, sure, election system. That's part of it too. But, but also the amount of people that you could probably influence to vote, uh,
Starting point is 01:35:33 is not as much as will be invalidated by those systems that the nefarious people have put into place. Right. So yes, you should encourage people to vote, but at the same time, that's not going to fix everything. Yeah. It is a toppling of all this bullshit that it has to go. It's, uh, the entire system is broke.
Starting point is 01:35:52 It needs to be shaken like an etch-a-sketch. Yeah. We've drawn a really shitty picture and we just need, uh, we need to start a bit from scratch, right? Retain the, uh, a couple of them amendments, uh, that we have in the, in the constitution in terms of freedoms and stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, 16th and 17th, especially.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Yeah. And that's second. And that's second one. Gotta love it. Man. I, I was, uh, have you seen Rory Scoville special? He, he is, is, he's like, there is a war coming and it's not going to be us versus Russia.
Starting point is 01:36:24 It's going to be red versus blue. And right now, all the guns are available. So I'm just saying while they're available, maybe get a gun because they're have all the guns. They got a lot of them. Yeah. But, uh, I mean, even Alex Jones is talking about how like he's seeing upswings of liberals with guns at the shooting range and how much of that is just his fear
Starting point is 01:36:47 in paranoia is unclear, but I do think you're seeing, uh, I mean, some liberals arming themselves, which I'm, it is a little bit like, don't you want water in 10 years? Like that kind of, that kind of situation. Yeah. I, I, I mean, let's let, but like, look, I, I, I get, I get where you're coming from. I get, I get the utility of discussing this and like feeling these sorts of things, but at the same time, I don't want us to descend into, uh,
Starting point is 01:37:14 inciting violence or fear even, right? Just like, that's not really, that's not what we should do. That's not where this show works because then we're doing the same thing on the flip side of the thing we're fighting. I don't think we're going for fear though. You're talking about buying guns so you can drink water in 10 years. I mean, that's, but that's rational. Alex would think he's right.
Starting point is 01:37:34 No, I mean, I mean, more like it is, it is something where our, our genuine, like at this point, I think one of the things that I am holding onto is not fear. I'm not afraid of, of this administration or what's going on. I'm enraged. Yeah. That is the thing that is inspiring, uh, me to actually fucking do shit. Like that's, that's inspiring. I called the congressman.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Sure. I did the whole thing. I've donated money. I've done a bucket of shit. Yeah, I wish. I wish. I've done all of this shit. Do you think that whoever left that fucking nothing?
Starting point is 01:38:14 Do you think whoever left that bucket of shit heard you? I hope so. Because you've advocated for shitting on people's lawns. I've advocated for shitting on people's lawns a lot. So how recent was that? I don't know. I don't remember. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Yeah. If it's in the past 10 months, I think it's me. It's entirely possible that we got someone to say if you, if you are a policy wonk that left a bucket of shit on his doorstep, send us a message. We won't get it. So many buttons. Yeah, send a lot of buttons. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Um, but hey, let's, uh, let's wrap this up because, uh, I'm tired and we're both hungover and want to go to bed, right? Uh, but, uh, we have a website people can go to knowledge fight.com. It's correct. We're also on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. Uh, we're on iTunes. Please share, share the show. We like it when people listen and, uh, it, it is, you know, Dan, uh, you do,
Starting point is 01:39:02 you do, you know, occasionally get grandiose, uh, in some of your, of your texts regarding our importance. No, no, no, no, no, I'm, I'm grandiose in terms of the problem. Exactly. And how I don't think anyone's looking at it correctly and slightly grandiose. It is, it is slightly grandiose, but that's, that, I mean, you are, you are still making every, I read so many takes. I'm, I can't do takes anymore.
Starting point is 01:39:27 We got, we got to come up with some tape. There's no take that is doing anything. Get off Twitter and fucking do something. Send a bucket of shit to somebody. Make a show or send a goddamn bucket of shit or just fucking reason. I do, do the work because there's shit that needs to be done. Don't, don't, uh, uh, like as Alex Jones of his many sins that include bigotry, include being an idiot.
Starting point is 01:39:52 It's telling you not to do anything. Well, and one of the greatest sources of a lot of those problems is his steadfast refusal to read anything, right? It's steadfast refusal to check into what people are telling him. Right. And, uh, if you don't fall into the same trap, the world would be a better place. Yeah. And, and, which is another good point, don't just believe us.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Well, except about James, I mean, yeah. Oh, well, I mean, Hey, now, and now he's turned a new leaf, man. Yeah. He's, he's come to, he's come to our side. I'm still not on his side. He's a Bernie bro. That's what's going on right now. I'm still not on his side because he still talks about like, uh, the
Starting point is 01:40:28 saw to my, no, I mean, that's not great. No, I'm not for that. I can't get on board. Also, we're on Facebook. We are on Facebook. I wasn't going to do that. I was trying. Um, but also we're on Twitch, uh, today this is coming out on Monday.
Starting point is 01:40:42 We will be, I will be live. You will not be. I will not be here until Tuesday, but Tuesday and Wednesday. We'll have a live shows with me and Jordan. I'll be there at eight PM, uh, central time at twitch.tv slash knowledge fight. Please come join us. Have some fun. There's a lot of fun stuff that happens in the chat room.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Yeah. The people in our chat room are fucking fantastic in their great. They are, they are, it's, uh, I was a little bit, uh, trepidatious, uh, regarding the chat room idea, cause I wasn't sure what would, it's unwieldy. I wasn't sure how that would shake out, but we actually have, uh, so many smart, interesting people in there who are all worthwhile and they're, and they're adding to the show, which is, uh, really, really fucking cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:27 I love it. And we have, uh, one, uh, one of our wonks out there, big shout out to, uh, I don't know what screen name I should use and I don't know their real name. So who cares, but a big shout out to the, uh, listener who keeps trying to call into info wars and I believe at this point has not gotten through, but I appreciate the effort. Yeah. I like the idea.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Uh, that's real cool. Anyway, let's wrap this up. And they are not screening. He has definitely proved that. Yeah. Um, so, uh, you know, we usually end by telling John Rappaport to fuck himself, but I think in this instance, Reverend Manning really takes priority. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:42:02 This guy, I've been waiting to talk about him forever. Right. Uh, I'm thrilled to finally be able to have a discussion and bring him into your world. Unfortunately, he has all of his teeth. I'm assuming. Uh, I believe so. Yes.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Uh, but you know, he's, uh, he's officially number two after, uh, Professor Hamamoto right in terms of my favorite and your favorite type of crazy. Well, yeah, but like the reason that Hamamoto's got to be up at number one is that he has the, like an arc to him that is fascinating. Right. Right. Like respected scholar in the world, like a very interesting area of study, like who just goes crazy and turns super villain and thinks about gay
Starting point is 01:42:41 guitars and disrupted protests and there's fucking, uh, I brought my pink guitar and they wouldn't let me sit in. Is that I can't do it, brother? I could not believe it. Yeah. He's thinks that Janet Napolitano is involved with weird rays and electronic pulses that are going through. Yeah, but that one's true.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Right. So he's never, I don't think he's ever going to be bumped out of the number one spot, but number two very close behind him is this Reverend Manning. And we might revisit him again because he is a, he's a well that is deep. Yeah. So we could do, we got it. We got another Carrie Callahan on our hands. I believe Cassidy, who unfortunately again is a bigot.
Starting point is 01:43:20 We, I wanted to, that not to be true. It's unfortunate. I'm sorry. I was so hoping that her crazy was completely untethered and instead. She's anti-Semitic. God damn it. So also I'd like to end the show by saying, Carrie Cassidy, go fuck yourself. And Reverend Manning, although I think a lot of things you say are incredibly
Starting point is 01:43:39 funny for the wrong reasons, you need to go fuck yourself. You dumb, bigoted piece of shit in a bucket outside your own church. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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