Knowledge Fight - #892: January 19, 2024

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan enjoy a day full of Alex crafting and practicing a conspiracy about the Globalists' plans to give everyone Ebola.

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thanks for holding. Hello, Alex, I'm a Christian color, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. Knowledge Fight. No, no, no, no, no, no, knowledgefight.com. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan.

We're a couple dudes, like sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Joel. Oh, indeed. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. Like, sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. I have a quick question for you, sir. What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today, Jordan, is the fog.

The fog. Wait, by Stephen King? No. Oh. The literal fog that is outside. Oh, yes. There's quite a bit of it. You got a crazy foggy day in Chicago last night as well. Yeah. I like it. I like the vibe.

It's so ominous. I mean, you're not to spoil sports or spoil too much information, but you're in a much higher floor than I think I've ever been. Sure. You know what I'm saying? So not like crazy high. Yeah, not in my fucking life. You know what I mean? But I don't live in a ridiculous high rise or something. Right. I'm used to I'm used, you know what I mean. I don't live in a ridiculous high-rise or something like that. I'm used to second, third at max, that kind of thing. I'm a little above that. Yeah, yeah. And so now we're in the fog slash cloud part of the fog.

Yeah, you can kind of feel like you're a part of it. Yeah. And it's thick. It's a thick fog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been a little while since I've seen a thick fog like that. Yeah, and yeah enjoyable It's the kind that makes you feel like in those movies whenever somebody's flying a flying a dragon or you know The magic carpet and they put their hand out in the in the cloud and everybody

You do you do yeah, it's a physical. Yeah, very nice. That's nice. It's what's your bright spot My bright spot was hopefully going to be tennis, but then it was not this morning, my friend. Sorry. Tennis has been great. Yeah. All the tennis very good. Good season. People who play tennis, they're very good at it. OK. The people that I wanted to play good did not play as good. That is a downside. It is a bummer. It is a bummer.

Alcatraz went down. Oh, went down to Sverev. Oh, it's dark, but it's good to see him come back from injured by the bed and didn't a Rafa already get injured. Rafa already got injured. Yeah. He won't be back till the French tough season, tough season for you. He played one tournament that he's like, I'll see you in a few months. Yeah. I'm going to die. I am about 100 years old as far as my body is concerned. I'm older than Pete Samperson, Andrea. I can see combined basically Yeah

Sorry, I'm sorry that was a you know a right spot. They got pulled out from under you. Oh, it's tough Coco even lost Come on wife No, no, no the gorilla Okay, that guy is old. Yeah, or lady. I can't remember. I can't remember. So, Jordan, yes, today we have an episode to go over. Right. Talking about something in the present day, but it is a little bit in the past.

OK. We're talking about January 19th, 2024. All right. So this is last Friday. Sure. And the reason I wanted to cover this is there's some crazy shit that happens and, you know, it's worth doubling back for.

But now I kind of regret it because as we're recording this on Thursday, Alex on his show supported secession for various states. And so I was sitting there like, oh, wow, that timing is fun. Yeah. Right before we start recording, Alex gets into that too. So that's probably first and foremost on everybody's mind. we're gonna have to wait till Monday to get to that We'll see Well, no, we are gonna cover it on Monday. I mean, I mean

I mean, we won't see if we get to Monday without the secession happening. That's a fair point Yeah, it's a long weekend. So we're gonna get down to business on this episode But first let's say hello to some new walks. That's a great idea. So first, happy birthday. Tom bus love Sarah. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next happy birthday. New Inns cat a chatnip from Eastern Tony and the seed perverts. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next Justin's not at the bar

because he has two walks at home now. Thank you so much. You're now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And next, my cat, Toki, is 21 years old. Praise be to Celine. Thank you so much, you're an hour policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much.

And congrats on your engagement, Devan and Cara. Thank you so much, you're an hour policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. And we're going to take it right in the mix. I don't know if I can do this. I can try. You got to give it a shot. It it says in parentheses Orson Welles voice and so thank you so much to

Two guys one I can't I get two ways tough. It's tough. I just listened to an episode where Marisa Lamarche was on James Bonding, uh-huh, and he can slide into it so easily the best and it just two guys one hammer Thank you so much you're now a tiger I thought it was a terrible impression I apologize I'm a policy wonk someone someone Sotomayor sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark Jardjard Binks has a Caribbean black action he's a loser little little titty baby I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. I do not support that

name, but I also realize in hindsight what I should have done is just said done an Alex voice. Yeah, I should have protected that was by Orson Welles. Man, I think the best Orson Welles oppression was from Maurice LaVarche on the Animaniacs. Was that the country goodness and green? The green pedic. That's on the critic. Yeah, the critic. That's what it was.

Yeah. Fantastic. The fish sticks. They're so good. You can eat them raw. So good. I found a found a little bit in my beard. Yeah, those are great. Well, the best. And the Orson Welles Palmissan commercial outtakes. Yes. That's the greatest thing ever. You

just don't get better than that. You just don't get better than that. It is like the genius insanity thing. The same. Anyway, Yep. Speaking of insanity, but not genius. Sure. We have Alex Jones and there's a lot going on on this episode. There's a big story. Okay. I don't know.

Maybe you heard about. I don't know if you have. I genuinely don't know if I have. Man, I don't know your life. I don't know you've heard about. It's been a rough week. So here we go. We're going to start off and Alex will lay out the beginnings of this narrative.

But I got a call right after the show yesterday by a very respected medical doctor, hospital director, former leader of the Governor of Texas Health Task Force for seven years, Dr. Richard Bartlett. And he Said to me You need to read all these documents. I'm going to send you and then after I went over the documents and spent about two hours I called him and I am a producer column. I said, please come on. He said well I'm running the hospital today. I can come on at lunch and he's in Amarillo So that's in one hour central. Amarillo by lunchtime. Wow. I mean, if your doctor calls into Info Wars during the day,

that's not your doctor anymore. That's not a good time. Not a good doctor. So to hear Alex tell it, this Bartlett fellow seems like he's almost the most credible person you could possibly imagine existing. It's really amazing how Alex has access to literally the most important and credible people in every field in the world. It is a stroke and then they become less so when they do things he doesn't like like Steve Poczanyk. Well, in reality Bartlett is a doctor who came to prominence during the early days of COVID because he claimed that a standard asthma inhaler with the steroid Budecinide was the quote silver bullet to treating COVID-19. And you know what research has borne out that it is the case that Budecinide has some therapeutic effect that may improve time of recovery for some patients. The results didn't show it to be a silver bullet, but in

terms of COVID solutions presented by folks in Alex's orbit, this one is at least better than a placebo. It appears. All right. It's not it's not an answer. It's not a solution. Sure. It's not as sure like Bartlett would say a reason not to get vaccinated. Right. But it's not like gonna hurt you. Honestly, net zero is heroic levels of Dr. Yeah, this world that is incredible. Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense that this would have some kind of a help because one of the central issues with COVID involves respiratory issues, but Bartlett is

severely overplaying his hand in terms of it being a treatment. I bet it feels like it works a lot more than it actually does because you got the steroid, you got the inhaler. You're talking about that. Like he got Bartlett to give him some of these inhalers when he got COVID one of the times. Right, right, right. Jesus Christ, I hate it. The instant relief that you get from the steroids is, like, it makes you think that,

oh, I'm better. Psychologically, it's probably, yeah, yeah, yeah, it makes sense, yeah. So now I have to say that the simple act of suggesting Budesanide is something that can help with patients with mild COVID is not that extreme. But it doesn't mean that Richard Bartlett isn't extreme himself. Hmm. In 2018, he published a bit of a memoir called The Journey of a Medicine Man, Doctor Confirmed Miracles. Nope, nope, nope, nope.

Not good. No! The Courts of Heaven shall strike you down! The description of the book pretty clearly lays out that, quote, for as long as he could remember, Dr. Richard Bartlett wanted to be a a missionary and it appears he decided to use his position as a doctor to do just that So here we can learn our first little tidbit about Bartlett and that is that he believes in miracles and perhaps Even thinks that they're an important part of the medical field sure that's a bad start That's not good Alex makes a lot of claims about Bartlett in his intro So I'm gonna go through them the first is that he's very respected. That's debatable in a lot of claims about Bartlett in his intro, so I'm gonna go through them. The first is that he's very respected.

That's debatable in a matter of perspective. So I'll leave that for you to decide when we get to the end of this discussion. Well, I'm gonna nickname him Dr. Dick Bart, so I don't think I respect him very much. Yeah, that's disrespectful. Yeah. Alex says that he is a hospital director. I can find zero evidence of this, and I don't think it's true. I think it's possible that he runs his own private clinic.

That sounds true. I think it's possible that he runs his own private clinic. That sounds right. But a hospital director is a completely different, much more serious thing. Yeah, no, the moment he said hospital director, I was like, there's no way that this is a real hospital. This is like a, you know, Dr. Kellogg's hospital kind of thing. So Alex then says that Bartlett was the head of the governor's task force for seven years. This is just not true. Alex either doesn't know or is intentionally obscuring the fact that the Task Force Bartlett was a part of was the Texas Health Disparities Task Force, which sought to get rid of the ways that people in different communities

had unequal access to health care. That Task Force was created in 2002 and according to Bartlett's bio he was appointed to it that year. In a 2002 article in the Victoria Advocate newspaper Dr. Adela Valdez is named as the chair of that task force. So he wasn't named the head of it. But he was on the task force. Yeah, it does appear so. I don't know for how long, but yeah, he was definitely on it according to documentation I can find. Valdez is once again credited as the quote presiding officer of the task force in a 2004 article in the Tyler Morning Telegraph. So it appears that she went on to be it for a

while sure interestingly in 2003 there was a run for the vacant seat left by the resignation of Larry Kombes to the representative in the US House for Texas in 19th district Richard Bartlett threw his hat into the ring and ended up coming in 10th with just under 2% of the vote ouch his candidacy was somewhat dead on arrival as he was dealing with a complaint from the Texas Board of Medical Examiners after, quote, an investigation revealed alleged unnecessary diagnostic tests, medication and treatments for multiple patients. According to, this is according to an article in the Midland Reporter Telegram, Bartlett naturally argued that this was just the insurance companies coming after him because he dared to put patients first and he swore that he would produce these patients who would

testify on his behalf and he predicted he'd get a letter of an apology from the board. How'd that go? Well in December 2003 after a hearing the medical examiners board and Bartlett agreed to basically have him on probation for a year. He would need to submit quote selected patient records to be reviewed by the board approved monitor. He would also then need to take a class on some medical stuff. After this point, I can find no official confirmation that Bartlett

was on the health disparities task force, but that isn't the sort of thing that leaves a lot of documentation. So I can see that it's possible to remain on it. Anyway, after all this, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is Texas and Rick Perry is the governor at this point. So who knows? Yeah, from here, things calm down a bit with Bartlett. At some point, he became the president of the Ector County Medical Society, which I can verify that he was at least in 2006. Various sources claim that he was in that position for four years, which could be true.

I have no idea. And then nothing really happens for a while. Right. Then, in 2019, Bartlett reemerges, announcing a plan to run for the House of Representatives again. But this time he drops out before the GOP primary, and then he seems to at some point have lost his goddamn mind. You see him pop up early in the COVID outbreak, insisting that Budesanide as Asma-ed Halers are the magic cure for COVID, and if everyone just used them, the

outbreak would be over. Research was in process around this kind of question, and it ultimately showed that while helpful, Asma-ed Halers would not just get rid of COVID-19. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a suspicion that this made Bartlett lose it. He began to become more antagonistic to the medical system as a whole. He appeared on a radio show in November 2020 with one of his patients who would go on to call the doctors and staff at the Medical Center Hospital, quote, murderers.

Sure, that might be a little extreme. This caused the people who ran that Medical Center Hospital quote murderers. Sure, that might be a little extreme. This caused the people who ran that Medical Center Hospital to be like, hey, please stop. They take it per any personally, we call them murderers. A little under a year later, things took a very bizarre twist when Bartlett was caught trying to sneak into

the Medical Center Hospital through the loading dock entry and appeared to be looking for stuff in their trash. All right. He was given a criminal trespass. Yeah. Yeah. Look around in the trash. What is it? What is this? Is it an episode of law and order? What is going on here? So he's given a criminal trespass warning since he has no business to be at that hospital in the first place. Yeah. Well, obviously.

He's now going to be arrested if he ever goes back unless it's as a patient. He claimed that. No, no, they have a duty now. Now I know now I've got it. Now I've got my heist plan going. This is a terrible idea. Do you leave no openings? He claimed that he was looking for quote COVID bags apparently trying to confirm a conspiracy theory that the hospital was putting bags on COVID patients heads. All right. And there is unfortunately like a little bit of truth to this. Sure. And that is that early on in the pandemic, they had a very unthoughtful method of transporting patients around the hospital who had tested positive for COVID. They put a bag over their head. There's at least one instance of this that has happened. Okay.

I don't know how widespread it was or anything, but he was looking for the bags. Eh? Well, what are you going to do if people put bags on your head? Since this point, Bartlett has been essentially a non-entity in terms of legitimate medical circles. Sure. He may still practice, but in terms of his existence as a public figure, no one except people like Alex take him seriously.

And that explains why he called Alex the day before this to tell him about this very important story that he wants to promote. Alex is the sort of outlet that has no standards and Bartlett's shit can't really fly in any arena that does. So that's where we're at. Bartlett called him up. Let's think about some people who have stridently called Alex with information that needs to be talked about that has led to people getting very seriously hurt in the past. There have been a few. Yeah, that could be happening. So this story is fucking huge. Sure. This story is so huge that when I read this entire stack of documents, which is government documents, huge CDC documents, hospital documents. I was sitting going to

bed last night about 10pm. And it was so upsetting that I couldn't sleep. So I got back up at 2am. And I've been up since then. So what am I talking about? Well, we just posted it on X. We just tweeted it. Let's put the live show feed that went up minutes ago on screen for TV viewers at Real Alex Jones. Real live nightmare, US hospitals caught injecting experimental Ebola vaccine that sheds. Oh shit, big news. Wow.

Wait what? What? It sheds? Ebola. Ebola sheds. What does this have to do with anything? We'll get to it. Oh, god damn it. So the idea here is that there's a hospital

that's injecting people with an experimentally Ebola vaccine. This vaccine, once given to a person, will allow them to spread this virus by shedding it from their body. Right. The short version of what's up here is that's not true. Right. The story is about how in November, 2023,

some frontline workers were some of the first people to get vaccinated in the US with a vaccine whose brand name is Urvabbo. It's an Ebola vaccine, but it's not experimental. It was approved by the FDA in 2019. It's just that most people in the United States don't have a reason to get it, since they're super unlikely to ever come into contact

with Ebola in the wild. These frontline workers in Denver were given the vaccine because the city houses one of the HHS designated regional emerging special pathogens treatment centers. In 2014, the last time Alex whipped the audience into an Ebola hysteria, the only cases that were not from people who caught it outside the country prior to coming here were two people who were treating the patients. So having a vaccine like this available to people in that position essentially serves to limit the amount that it's possible for future cases that are important to the United States to spread any further than a hospital.

Right, right, right. That's the idea. You can find all kinds of coverage of this from the end of November and it's weird that it's just coming up for Alex now, probably because his audience really isn't that worked up about COVID anymore and they need something else to be scared of. Shading sounds scary, but it's important to understand that it's not the same thing as spreading. The likelihood of vaccines being spread that way is incredibly rare, and one of the only exceptions is the oral polio vaccine, which has largely been replaced. In some parts of the developing world, that oral polio vaccine is still used, which is why you'll end up seeing cases

of vaccine-derived polio and why Alex can trot around, saying that the majority of cases of polio were caused by the vaccine. Sure. This dynamic does not exist with all live-attenuated virus vaccines, and that's the only thing Alex is gonna go off of, like when he's saying this vaccine is shedding

and it's gonna cause other people to get this. It's just gonna point to the polio vaccine. Right, right, right. He has no evidence that this applies to the Ebola vaccine and neither does Dr. Trash Thief. This is all just ridiculous. Yeah, that sounds right. So that's the basic bit of the business.

Okay, so I was- Basic bit of business. I was, excuse me. Carm. Excuse me, I was, see, cause I was thinking that they were talking about a vaccine where if you get a vaccine, then you can spread the vaccine

like a super spreader kind of thing, which seems like a great idea. Well, actually that is some of the possible effect that unintentional effect that the oral polio vaccine can have in parts of the developing world where it's used. Right, right, right, but that's more of a building up immunity in a more kind of like responsive way as opposed to a vaccine, like an mRNA vaccine type deal kind of thing. Sure.

Yeah. It's not advised. I think that having a plan of secondary vaccinations of people is sure. First of all, incredibly unethical. You don't have the informed consent of the people. And see, that's kind of the argument that anti-vaxxers have around this shedding business is that vaccines shouldn't be allowed because you shed them and the people who then get sick from you, which they can't prove happens,

then they don't have, they didn't consent to be around you with your vaccine. Right. And so that's kind of like the standard anti-vax argument that goes around this stuff. I feel like blowdarts should be more involved in the vaccine process and that's just a throwing that out there kind of thing.

Not necessarily a we need to table this right now kind of thing, but I'm just in the future I've been a I've been a blow-dart guy from way back, but I don't I don't know about its application here again I think we run into the same issues about informed consent, but ah, but not if I'm well camouflaged Then there's they oh, what's that? I think I got stung by a bee sure that we move on see My like when I was younger I had some friends who like wanted to get knives Okay, you want to have some weapons? And so I was like I want to be different. I'm gonna be a blow dart guy Mm-hmm, and so I decided to get like you got a little blow. Yeah. I'd never got good at it

So Alex gets more into this conspiracy. Sure. So listen to me very, very carefully. They've been hyping. We are born to have the next big attack will be an airborne Ebola. When did they say rice for it? And if you track the outbreaks of Ebola that happened during the Obama administration, they were directly linked back to the UN and the Pentagon with pharmaceutical companies in a whole bunch, seven different Central African countries. You're not even trying. Congo, you name it. Injecting the population when there was almost no Ebola there, almost no death with these experimental shots.

And now the very same company that did that. And they admit I have mainline news saying the Ebola outbreaks. About breaks. You hear what I just said? No, because you cut out. So nothing Alex is saying there is true or connected to reality, but that drop in audio seemed suspiciously timed. It did. There's this is what I'm using is audio straight from Infor's, but I was able to find another feed of it and he just

says that the old Ebola outbreaks were caused by the shot. So it's just kind of, it's random. No, no, it's just a random. He says it at other points too. Oh, okay. Well, then never mind. It's just random tech glitch. Just okay.

So Alex is lying. The 2013 outbreak of Ebola in Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia, among other affected countries, was the widest spread in history. The outbreak began in December 2013 in Guinea, and then it spread slowly at first, but then it picked up steam in the spring of 2014. By August 2014 there were already about 2,000 cases and almost 1,000 deaths from the outbreak and then that environment shit was very serious. At this point the drug that would become hervebo had been studied and showed promise in non-human primates,

but it is understandably pretty difficult to test something like an Ebola vaccine on human subjects, given how deadly it can be and how quickly it can kill a person. Considering the circumstances and how severe the outbreak was, it was deemed ethical to deploy this vaccine on a trial basis among some people in Bascine, Guinea, generally among people who had a contact with someone diagnosed with Ebola within the previous three weeks. We call it the nothing left to lose kind of thing. It's a compassionate, ethical. Yeah, might as well. Hey, we'll throw anything at it at this point because who cares? Right. You have a 50% fatality rate and you have cases in

the thousands. You got it. The trial lasted two years and they found among the 5,837 people who had received the vaccine, there were zero cases of Ebola. Of the 6,004 people that they monitored who didn't get the vaccine, 23 people were infected. This level of efficacy is shockingly good. And in 2019, there was another outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo. The Urvabo vaccine was given to approximately 90,000 people people and it had a 97.5% effectiveness rate. That's awesome. It's a little bit down from 100% in 2016, which was at the end of that other outbreak. Sure. But still very good, especially considering for years there's been no prevention treatment or cure

that we know of for Ebola. Sure. Now it's important to point out that when we say that there's 100% or 97.5% effective rate here, that's not really a number that we can ever know, because it's important to point out that when we say that there's a hundred percent or ninety seven point five percent effective rate here That's not really a number that we can ever know because it's essentially impossible to set up a trial that includes Placebos and control groups where the subjects would then be exposed to Ebola. Yeah. Yeah those 5837 people did not get Ebola we know that much But we don't know that if some of them like they would have if they they work Yeah, maybe just they weren't exposed to the virus It's complicated. So it's probably best to stay away from like hyperbolic claims

But the vaccine showed and shows a lot of promise There's a lot you could say about this set of circumstances For instance, you could take issue with the use of this experimental vaccine among people in that earlier outbreak when it hadn't been tested for Effectiveness on human subjects. That's a definite ethical question and it's possible to have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, they didn't know for sure if it was going to work. On the other hand, there were thousands of cases of Ebola with an almost 50% fatality rate and the outbreak showed no signs of slowing down. A strong case could be made for trying the vaccine with people's informed consent and that you could make an argument that that's the only ethical thing you could do in that situation. If Alex wanted to have a discussion

on this kind of a ground, I don't think I'd agree with him. I don't think I'd end up on the same side, but at least it's a rational conversation to have. Sure. Claiming with those outbreaks were caused by the vaccine is a disgusting lie. The perpetuation of which is just going to hurt more people though. Yeah. That's not a rational conversation. There's zero reason for Alex to be pulling this kind of shit because the strategy that's been used and found effective with Urvebo has been what's been called ring vaccination. This is, it's an outward rings starting from the point

of a confirmed case, vaccinating the people who they've been in contact with. As of this point, this has not been a vaccine that has been used at population levels, like the way that you would try and reach herd immunity through vaccination. It's a prophylactic emergency strategy that's used to prevent outbreaks from spreading further. And let me be clear, I don't think it's impossible that we could see another case of Ebola come into the country. Alex, I don't think that like him suggesting the because he's talking about the global

they're they're pre-programming all this. Sure. It's just people warning that like it's possible that we could have a case. Sure. You know, it happened in 2014. It is possible that that could happen. That's an interest. You know what?

We, you know, thinking about it now that about, like, what possible civil war kind of thing there could be, I think if there was another outbreak, it's possible that we could have a significant part of the population on the side of the virus at this point in time. Well, like we're talking a lot of people. I don't know. You get into a little bit of murky territory when you're like on the side of the virus because I think you could make a pretty solid case that a Lot of Alex's behaviors are indistinguishable from being in favor

But he's not active. He's not actually like in his head being like I want to spread this fucking virus Sure, I can't can't say that that's what he thinks sure Well, his actions are indistinguishable from someone who would want to make it more difficult to deal with a public health crisis Right, right. Yeah. No if I was a Native American I would be like, oh, I don't think these white people are trying to spread this disease But you know what you gotta go Not not quite Forget what you're saying. Yeah, so there's a possibility that you could see case of this You know, it's just a part of being in an interconnected world

So this you know, it's just a part of being in an interconnected world Hmm the issue is whether or not it will become an active outbreak here if it if something does happen And the only thing that determines that is how our leaders respond right if we have a response like what happened in 2014 Then there's a good chance that we'll end up with a similar outcome where things are well contained And it doesn't become a public health crisis if that we have leaders like we did in 2020 I find it hard not to think that we will be fucked. Fingers crossed though that we never have to find out. It's not an inevitability, but it does introduce a scary prospect.

Yeah, it has, I will say that I, and I think I've kind of noticed this and it hasn't fully connected into a thought that I think can be fleshed out yet, but since the pandemic, just baseline competence has turned into a lot sexier thing for me. You know what I mean? Just like, man, people just doing their jobs

at a good level. Wow! You know? Well, I think it seems a little, you know, yeah. Especially within like bureaucratic things and like places with a lot of variables, like government, it is more impressive than you realize for people to be competent.

It dropped my expectations so far that it now is, yeah. Oh, that's great. Yeah, I mean, it's a silver lining. Think about positive attitude. Right, that's where you start every episode with. Things could be worse. Right, so Alex believes this to be breaking news. And now they're giving the shots to healthcare workers at

hospitals in the United States. This just broke. And what's crazy is doctors finally noticed this even though they started this in December a month ago. So this is breaking now here. So this happened in November. This isn't breaking news, but Alex's narrative on it is. You know how Alex pretends that he spends all this time studying and reading the news,

figuring out the plots of the globalists? You really got to think that if that were true He would have heard about this before his idiot doctor slash raccoon friend called him about it So there are ten regional emerging special pathogens treatment centers in the United States of which Denver health is one of them It was their choice to vaccinate some of their frontline workers for Ebola Which really raises the question this were part of an elaborate globalist plot. Wouldn't all of those regional emerging special pathogen treatment centers be vaccinating their employees?

Why is it just Denver? I guess the conspiracy has got to be that that's where the outbreak is going to start. I mean, they do have the airport. That's true with Lucifer. See now, now, now I'm listening. They have murals. You say Denver and now I'm listening. I will. I will say that there's a shocking amount of restraint that Alex shows in terms of not bringing the Denver airport. There's so many options really. If you've

got Denver is your epicenter of conspiracy. That's a Jason. know, you're right there. Yeah. So Alex complains in this next clip here. He talks about how he thinks that the vaccine is linked to all these outbreaks. Sure. And then he complains about the Washington post for some reason. That I'm good. When I say breaking, it's on the hospital websites. It's on the CDC site. They admit they're doing it. And then we can track the exact so-called vaccine. Website looking for that information. Link to four global Ebola outbreaks. So, special guest Dr. Richard Bartlett and one other guest that will announce once he

joins us. Ooh. In the second hour today. You need to tune in. You need to share. You need to research because unlike the Washington Post that just wrote a big article two days ago that we wrote about last night at info wars dot com. We want to do your own research. Washington Post's latest outlet telling Americans, doing own research is bad, and the first example they use in the big report, we have a screenshot of right here with a link to it on the site, is infowars.com reporting that leftists have been caught setting fires in Australia,

and they say it's false but then later in the article admit it's actually true we got it from the AP of Australia and the Brisbane Times so we want you to do your own research got it I will ah this does all you got to do to start fires in Australia is carry a magnifying glass that doesn't count as a crime. And we talked about this 500 episodes. I was going to say, yeah, this was all. Yeah. So the term linked to in Alex's claim that the Ebola vaccine has been linked to four outbreaks is a pretty weasley bit of business.

Demonstrating that this vaccine was used in the context of Ebola outbreaks is not the same thing as it causing them. Further, there are examples of outbreaks where the vaccine wasn't used because it's only effective against the Zaire strain. Alex needs to prove a causal link instead of this weak shit he's doing and that burden of proof is on him and he is not up to achieving it. Also, Alex says that the vaccine is you know, he says that it's linked to for global Ebola outbreaks and there haven't been global Ebola outbreaks except for one. Right. You could call that 2013 to 2016 outbreak global since a few cases popped up around the world. But other than that, the outbreaks of all been in Africa, particularly the Democratic

Republic of Congo, Uganda, Guinea. Alex is being very sloppy with his language because the goal is to sensationalize the story to scare the audience. And that's the name of the game. Alex brings up this Washington Post article, which is just an op-ed covering a paper published in the journal Nature, that found that people who do their own research online

tend to, quote, gain more confidence in untrue information. That sounds right. So the article quotes the paper, quote, when individuals search online about misinformation, they're more likely to be exposed to lower quality information than when individuals search about true stories. And those who are exposed to low quality information are more likely to believe false slash misleading news stories to be true relative to those who are not.

Basically legitimate outlets and sources of quality information, they generally aren't going to be talking about the stupid shit that people like Alex are so when you seek out information about the stupid shit Alex is saying you're gonna find low quality information sources talking about it and that in turn reinforces your belief in them Right the only time that Alex or in force comes up in this article is in this passage quote channels like one America news Which I described shortly after the 2020 election as pro-trump video channel offered with a cable news like aesthetic elevated numerous baseless claims before being booted from major cable news systems. Its programming often appears to be the equivalent of taking Alex Jones's info wars but setting it in a local television news studio. Do your own research might lead you to reputable looking sources that are anything but. There's nothing about fires or Australia in the article at all, so Alex's complaint about the Washington Post really isn't on target. The words Alex and Info Wars

don't appear in that nature paper, so I had to go to the Info Wars article to even get what this was about. Apparently they're complaining about how one of Alex's articles about the Australian fires from 2020 was included in the paper and deemed false slash misleading. Wow. This is tremendously petty. Wow. So the headlining question is, quote, nearly 200 people arrested across Australia

for deliberately starting fires, starting bushfires. Sure. To complain about this nature paper, Alex points to a snopes fact check of the claims about the fires, which said that 183 people had been arrested for bushfire related offenses, but quote, 24 people have been charged with deliberately setting fires.

So the deliberately. The deliberate arson. That's what we're talking about. Well, the Info Wars article goes on to whine, quote, Snopes was pretty hung up on the word deliberately, to which I would say that might be because the word was prominently used in your headline. It's a very important word. So the InforWars article says that the Snopes Review, quote, failed to mention the source cited by the InforWars

article. The Brisbane Times wrote, quote, figures obtained by the Australian Associated Press revealed police had dealt with 98 people, 31 adults, and 67 juveniles for deliberately starting fires, a number that grew over time. That last part, quote, a number that grew over time wasn't from the Brisbane Times. Alex is just tacking that on to save face. That is odd. Also, the source says the police, quote, dealt with 98 people, not arrested them. Well, Alex's article explicitly in the headline, it says, quote, arrest and deliberately. And the sources he's now pointing to don't back him up on that also Alex's claim on air here is that it was leftists who did this that's not supported by his own article from the past

Nor the sources that he's pointing to like the Brisbane Times Further the point of Alex's article was the fact that some people were arrested for arson That was being used as proof that climate change isn't real by every metric This was a false slash misleading claim in the article. You can grow up and stop whining about the fucking Bodger to post. You know, I feel like it wouldn't be fun to parse a sentence with you. No, I was Alex. I'm just saying that as far as a headline goes, if I was next to you, I would be like, I'll you stay over there. Sure. I'll write this one. Uh-huh. You go over. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, that's, that is the problem.

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That was a pretty perfect encapsulation of Alex's information model at the beginning that you responded to. Talk a bunch of shit then crowdsource memes to talk more shit about. The lucrative business. So that 31% number that Alex cites about vaccine shedding comes from a November 2023 paper published in clinical infectious diseases. And I gotta be honest, actually as this goes on, you start to realize that it's actually from an FDA insert for the Urvebo vaccine.

But that insert is quoting this study. Right. So he's actually secondarily talking about this study, not realizing it. Gotcha, gotcha. So it found that 31.7% of children shed the vaccine virus in their saliva, mostly in the first week after vaccination,

but then stopped entirely by day 28 and then did not shed at all if they got a second dose. Sure. The paper is about shedding in adults and children, and there's literally no mention of shedding observed in adults. So Alex is just making up whatever claims he makes on that front.

That's not to say that there isn't any, but there isn't any based on the source that he provides. Yeah. Virus shedding does not equate to virus spreading. That doesn't mean it's impossible, however. And the literature around this vaccine does advise that people who receive this vaccine, quote, avoid close contact with an exposure of high risk

individuals to blood and bodily fluids for at least six weeks following vaccination. Taking into consideration the rate of shedding and the nature of it, a study by the European Medical Association found, quote, the overall risk of hervabote to human health and environment is considered negligible. When you get a live of a tenuated virus vaccine, you're not actually getting that virus.

That is to say, you get hervebo, you aren't getting Ebola light. The vaccine is introducing a very weakened version of the virus into your body, so it creates an immune response to it, creating antibodies. And you don't get Ebola. Right. This is a situation we find ourselves in. Alex can point to the study to show that 31.7% of children who got the vaccine shed it in their saliva for about a week or so and a little bit possibly

after that, tapering off. But what he needs to do is prove his actual claim that this can spread the Ebola virus. Right. He can't do that. And the best he'll be able to do is point at the oral polio vaccine and insist that they're the same thing and they're not.

Yeah. The thing about the Bat Lab is about people freaking out on social media about Colorado State University getting a grant in 2021 to build a facility to study bat immune reactions. Right. This is a BSL2 level security facility. So it won't be dealing with easily transmissible or highly lethal stuff. But the important thing is that this is a college from Colorado. Right. Those doctors who got the Ebola vaccine were in Colorado.

That makes sense. This grant for three years ago is a school in Colorado. Do you see how this fits together so perfectly? It really does. Lucifer. This is the level of work that's going on here. Two unrelated things happened in the same state. Therefore, the globalists try to give everyone Ebola or something. I'm actually not even sure. When we get to the end of this, I'm not actually sure what the conspiracy is. Yeah, it might be to scare people. Uh, it might be to trick people into getting vaccinated with an Ebola vaccine. It might be to give people Ebola. It might be to create a appearance of an outbreak in order to seize control. Yeah.

Unclear. I think one, one thing that occurs to me right now is how much we take for granted in regards to the borderline magic of viruses. Yeah. Right. Like that's crazy. What do you mean that there are the virus sheds in your saliva if you're a kid and not an adult that That or or the virus doesn't or a small attenuated version does this thing or your body makes this thing

It is why they're fucking aliens man. That's what they are. They were sitting here on fucking asterisms You're on something here. That's what happened. That's where we come from and we're all Viruses man. I'm digging what you're saying robert. I like it But I just want to clarify based on what you're saying. In case people get a twisted. Yeah. There viruses are magic. Well but also the adults probably shed. Yeah. It was not something that was captured in the study or any of the information that Alex can't present. No. It was just to be clear. Yeah. Because I am a stickler with you and for sure for sure. No, of course. So

apparently, you know, shedding is the same thing as spreading. That's like the new version of correlation and causation. Yeah, shedding ain't spreading, baby. Here is the insert for the experimental Ebola injection that they admit sheds. Did you hear what I just said? Spreads. Here is that is that why it's called a spread of care in hospital director Injection that they admit sheds you hear what I just said spreads Here is that is that why it's called a spread of career in hospital director former Task Force member of the governor on next hour is he got this got these anti vex weirdos coming in to reinforce the narrative that he's working on Fleshing out through the beginning of the show through the first hour. He's trying

to really repeat this over and over again. And you get the sense of this. It's a fascinating dynamic that I see playing out here that we'll discuss as it goes on. But for now, Alex makes an embarrassing trip up. Okay. Here is the New England Journal of Medicine, a random controlled trial of Ebola, virus disease therapeutics, and it gets into what this vaccine did. And it's massive linkage to outbreaks in Africa. So Alex hasn't read any of this stuff, and he doesn't care what any of it says, but he has a responsibility to read more than a headline when he's using a study to freak his audience out like this. This study in the New England Journal of Medicine

isn't even about Urvebo. You would know that if you'd read any of this. Sure, sure. You would have the name or VEBO or not. Or you should know this from the headline because here's that headline. A randomized control trial of Ebola virus disease therapeutics. This is about therapeutics, right? Like monoclonal antibodies and antiviral agents. Things to do after you. It's not at all about vaccines. Not preventing it. I know this is par for the course for Alex and he has no idea about pretty much everything that he talks about, but this shit is sincerely dangerous.

In the unlikely but very possible scenario that there is a case of Ebola that comes into the country in the future, Alex is priming his audience to not take any public health guidance seriously. He's doing literally everything within his power to make it more likely that the next outbreak, whatever it may be of, spreads more than it needs to, which is exactly what you're saying with these on the side of the virus. And honestly, I have a strong suspicion of why this is going on. He was swearing up and down for forever that the COVID vaccine erased people's immune systems and would be seeing bodies piling up in the streets. He's been saying that forever. There are a lot of bodies that have not

piled up in any streets. The promise of his conspiracies was that you, the listener, was smart for not getting vaccinated because all the idiots who did are gonna be dead real soon. And you're gonna get to laugh at them and that's why you love this show. And that hasn't happened. They laugh at me. I think the Infor's audience is a little burned out on COVID conspiracies. It's not really as juicy. It's tough. And if Alex doesn't come up with a new medical set of keys to jangle in front of their faces,

they might fuck around and start realizing that the prophecy of all these vaccine deaths didn't come true. This is, this was always the way it was gonna go because Alex is, you know, kind of a coward about this stuff and he needs to distract the audience from his past bullshit with new bullshit. But he, you know, it's just a way to not own up to being wrong about this stuff. And I don't know, especially when it's about something as like potentially volatile as Ebola outbreaks. It's pretty irresponsible.

Well, I mean, when you stop to think about the mass psychology of millions upon millions of people dying due to disease and how people, after like three years, are like, let's just be done. Let's just not talk about it. Yeah, okay, there's a new wh- who fucking cares? I'm just tired. That's what I am.

To the point where even people are like, the government is killing us with it, are like fucking, ah, just do it then, fine. I'm just tired of COVID. One way or the other, let's just be done with it. It's interesting that you can be tired of it, you know, that way, that burnout,

but also the sensational bullshit nonsense. It'll tire you out. Human beings are just going to get burnt out. Yeah. Sooner or later, you get burnt out. Yeah. Yeah. And the only thing that doesn't burn you out.

Alex is dumb ass. So Alex talks about how these vaccines are linked to all these outbreaks. Sure. And it's trying to really pound out this narrative, into shape like a like a person at a forge stake. Shane Bill Gates back live Ebola. Oh, you know he'd be involved. Shane Bill Gates back live Ebola vaccine distributed before Africa's 2016 1820 2120 22 and before that in the Obama outbreaks, which is given to Colorado healthcare workers. US Army now developing Ebola medicines. Okay.

We have all the documents. So many documents. So that Bill Gates thing is a reference to Gavi providing some funding to Merck to help produce the Urvebo vaccine. Sure. That's the Bill Gates connection. Sure. What Alex is reading there is a headline from John Fleetwood's sub-stack.

You may have heard him mentioned earlier. He's Dr. Bartlett's weirdo friend who's going to be the other guest on this episode. And so he just, Alex was reading off this sub-stack headline and decided to throw quote, and earlier under Obama in there for no reason. It's not in the headline. So Alex is just making that up.

Oh man, I just want Fleetwood Max Fleetwood sub stacks That's not bad He would be wise that would be Mick get to work. Wait, is he dead? I think he's dead. I Don't care. That's a good point. So Fleetwood sub stack post does literally nothing to demonstrate that the urvab vaccine is linked to increasing Spread of Ebola during these outbreaks that are listed in the headline. It's purely an exercise in misrepresentation. In each of these instances that Fleetwood brings up, there's not a vaccine campaign that then led to an outbreak. In each of these cases, there was an existing outbreak and then vaccination efforts were launched to hopefully limit the spread of the virus. The methodology used with

the Urvavo vaccine is wholly responsive. There's an outbreak and then healthcare providers track contact and get them vaccinated. It's an emergency response paradigm, not a blanket coverage paradigm. The argument that Fleetwood is making is simple. In these past instances, people were vaccinated, then there was an outbreak.

Now some doctors in Colorado got vaccinated, so there's probably going to be an Ebola outbreak there. It's a faulty argument built on false premises, but I'm noticing something here. Now some doctors in Colorado got vaccinated, so there's probably going to be an Ebola outbreak there. Right. It's a faulty argument built on false premises, but I'm noticing something here. Both of the main stories today, the one about the Colorado doctors and the one about the Colorado State University lab, are from John Fleetwood's substack. Hmm. This guy's sure getting a lot of play out of nowhere.

Looks like he will be our mystery guest on today's show. He is. I knew it! But also, a cynical person might wonder, is he paying for it? I don't know what is going on. Man. I don't know. But I also think that maybe it's just so desperate for content.

And Richard Bartlett called him. He's like, I got this weirdo friend. That's always possible. So John Fleetwood has been a writer for a few years at a blog called American Faith, where he writes about all the hot right-wing grievance memes that are going around. Even after being on Info Wars, he has under 600 followers on Twitter and I think that in 2001 he self-published a bit of a futurist fiction

novel called 3000AD A New Beginning. I recommend everyone including you get your phone out. I recommend everyone Google that book and look at the cover and tell me that it doesn't look like a guy wielding a big erection. Alright, let's see. I can't find the entire book, but apparently shit goes bad when the stock markets fall apart in two thousand seven hundred or so around that. And then somehow God ends up in a climactic battle against Satan. That sounds that. Well, I mean, suspiciously familiar to my fan fiction. Have you? But look at the cover. I mean, you're not going to compete with this cover. A new begin. So 3000 AD, a new beginning. Yeah. All right. Look at that. That is astonishing. You are joking. How did you get? How did you get that on the TV screen? I looked at that cover and I was like, whoever made this could not have run it by anybody else

or else they were trying to make it look like a dick. At all. It's crazy. And the eyes, the eyes looking at the dick are somehow even more disconcerting. But look at the guy's face. Oh, I see it. He has a sword in his hand, but it doesn't look like it.

Yeah, no, no, no, he looks like he has a sword in both hands and a dick is growing out and he's staring at the dick, like, whoops. It's wild. Yeah. Anyway, people, check that out. You gotta see it. So one of my favorite parts of this book that I read

was on page seven. Sure. Quote, people from the country formerly known as the United States began exploring west from the agricultural region at the center of the country. Groups broke away and founded new communities in Danvar, Houston, and Las Angolas. Changing the names of the past to reflect a new beginning. Sure.

I feel bad. I shouldn't shit on someone for a creative endeavor. That's not cool. No. I really don't mean to be mean and fuck me for this, but like seriously, Google the cover of the book. You got it. I couldn't have found that and not brought it up.

You got it. Also, if it's written by a different person named John Fleetwood I apologize, but that again that cover is impossible to I mean hey if there is a Fleetwood that is also Yeah, no, it's the same spelling of the name to John is without an H. If there's two John Fleetwoods Both of them in this particular field both of them Both of them in this particular field. Both of them with a level of And he's a big, he's a big Christian person and the God vanquishes the devil at the end of his fiction novel. That makes sense. And a clear willingness to debase oneself for really any amount of money. Or none.

Or none. Yeah. I guess none is a part of any. So Alex, you know, he does exactly what you would expect him to do. Sure. Now, pull up the headline from Reuters, please. Also AP, majority of global polio cases caused by vaccine. Well, that's what's insane is that they hide this in plain view. Yes, we've talked about the dynamics of the polio vaccine a hundred times, so I'm not

going to get into it again here, but this is still important because it's the only thing Alex can point to to make his case. The orally administered polio vaccine is the exception to the rule where shedding experience by people who got the vaccine has more of a high likelihood to spread the virus. While it's not true of all live attenuated virus vaccines. That is the impression that Alex is trying to give. Right. But this is the one gotcha type thing

that Alex can pull out to prop up all of his claims about this Ebola vaccine. He can point to that other article, about 31.7% of children shedding the Ebola vaccine, but what he can't do is prove that this can cause infection in another person right because he can't do that He just points to the oral polio vaccine and pretends that his case is made and it is not right He has more work to do and he's not up to it man hard to believe How much on the side of polio he is?

I mean we we fought polio real hard as a species. And then one. And then it turns out that the polio will rise again. I mean, this this kind of behavior is the stuff that leads to the South polio will rise again. All right, let's move on. So Alex lies a little bit more about them, them doctors and the Denver. All right. Where's a bowl in the United States? Tardly in Africa. Most outbreaks are linked to these tests, these inoculation operations.

And then they're not, it's not just Denver. We know it's going to other places. We've got that here. They're injecting healthcare workers who they then test on and put in a report admitting 31% got Ebola-like symptoms when they took it. So Alex can't demonstrate where else these doctors are getting the Herverbo vaccine.

I think what he might be talking about is that in like clinical trials. Right. I think that's what he's- That has to be. But that's not what it sounds like from the way he's saying this. No.

So there's a single story from last November out of Denver and he's saying it's happening everywhere. Everywhere. Which is not gonna be substantiated by his this. No. So there's a single story from last November out of Denver, and he's saying it's happening everywhere, everywhere, not going to be substantiated by his coverage. Right. So Alex is further lying about his source, but in a compounded way. These doctors were not the people who were included in the study that cited the 31.7% shedding number. That was entirely different and reflected a quote, randomized, double blind placebo controlled trial

conducted at six centers in four West African countries. It wasn't testing the efficacy of the vaccine, but it was testing how well antibodies were produced and stayed around. And so you can do a placebo controlled study around that because there wasn't the challenge of the Ebola right in it. So Alex is lying about that being related to the medical workers in Colorado. I can't say that I don't prefer my medical advancements to be performed on the doctor themselves live on a stage. Those are pretty cool. Whenever he's like, I haven't developed a new thing.

And then he drinks it and then he's like, now I'm free. That's how most vaccines I feel like should be announced. Well, but they don't like make you transform. So it'd be an unsatisfying show. It is true. It's an unsatisfying show. I'll be back in the day they didn't, you know, during the depression, they didn't really have much to watch anyway.

So that was enough. Yeah. Now we got. People would just gather around someone at a megaphone. Yeah. Look at it. It was exciting. Oh, he talks a lot louder. Oh, so Alex is further lying about the results of that study. He's saying people in the study got Ebola like symptoms and that's just that's yeah, not the case unless you know if you get a bully

you get a headache. And so if you get a vaccine and you get a headache, that's not a bullet like you can't you can't say a bullet like a matter of degree unless I'm like melting. You can't say a bow like symptoms. Yeah. Yeah. So all of this really is just an egregious anti Vax demonstration. And so he spins this off into other Vax conspiracies. That's just like they admittedly killed 43,000 US troops in the two different anthrax injection test they did under George Herbert Walker Bush. There's the Reuters headline, if you're a new viewer,

I don't make this stuff up. Vaccine delivered polio virus detected in Congo. Vaccine delivered, but let's go back. That's not the actual headline I wanted. How the oral polio vaccine can cause polio. That's NPR. I want to show the exact headline that Joe Rogan didn't believe three years ago and pulled up was blown away.

Majority of new polio cases caused by polio vaccine. That's the headline. I want them to see it. So that's shit about the anthrax vaccine is not true. Alex is mixing up statistics. Yeah. 43,000 military members died from influenza during World War One. Sure. That's the statistic that he's like different from anthrax. Yeah. During George H W Bush. A little bit different, a little bit different. Sure. So you can see from that clip though how important the precise optics of this polio vaccine thing is to selling the shoddy

argument he has about Ebola vaccine. The crew pulls up a very serviceable article about a case of vaccine derived polio in the Democratic Republic of Congo, but that's not enough for Alex. He needs that majority of cases things because he thinks it's going to blow the audience's collective mind, but it's just slight of hand tricks. Yeah. Just look over here. I I here's what I'm fascinated by. Why do journalism schools exist if they don't have like this this exact scenario right like to me this is what makes perfect sense. You can't have journalism in America unless you like confront this. Hmm that journalist wrote majority of new cases That's the headline you wrote that cannot be right that simply cannot be so

However, we got to get that into schools everywhere that are like a you see this here's an example This cannot be yeah, I knew a new and maybe fuck I didn't go to journalism school and I wasn't I've been out of college for a while so maybe things have changed a bit but a priority for people who are in the field in this current state of the way the clickbait is misused and abused by actors like Alex and so many more now. You have to play preemptive defense against what you're writing being used as a weapon.

And that is definitely the case. I agree with you, but the only reason I have some pause is I don't know if maybe some journalism schools are incorporating some of that understanding. Sure, sure. That very well may be. Right, right, right. It certainly hasn't fleshed out.

Yeah, yeah, no, I just mean like if you study the history of journalism in America, that is a problem that has never even been addressed. True. You know, it is one that is, if anything, been like, barreling towards worseness since the start. Sensation is sold since people were selling papers on the street. The fucking Gutenberg Bible had a pair of tits on it to get the get the sales numbers juiced up That makes sense. Hell yeah So

Alex realizes at some point here. Yeah Headline he ends for the show that he's tweeted out. Sure. Maybe it isn't sensational enough. It could be better So he starts to workshop it on air. That's a good idea. And now Bill Gates, say it again. Bill Gates. Bill Gates. In fact, our headline on Act should be this.

I wrote the headline for my live. It's not sensational enough because it needs to match the reality. So let's retweet. Let's repost. Again, the live show feed. Breaking. Bill Gates caught secretly. Let's let's retweet let's repost again the live show feed breaking Bill Gates caught secretly well there actually it's not it's not a plain view Trying to avoid adverbs in your headlines just throwing that out there

Funding sure experimental injection okay bolo vaccine funding. Sure. Experimental injection. Okay. Bola vaccine. Stop. Here Americans. No, it spreads. No, that's not a quarter. I don't know what says at all. I mean, what is happening? No one cares about anything with the breaking Bill Gates caught funding and the administration, the. I just this is all about my pay grade folks. It's all. I mean, the writer's room is below your pay grade. He's trying to say he hasn't read any of the. Injection of live Ebola vaccine in the United States or breaking. Americans now being injected with live Ebola vaccine

that sheds. That's even worse funded by Bill Gates or Bill Gates funding the inoculation of Americans with live Ebola vaccine in the United States. I mean, so yeah, I mean, it is kind of an exercise in exactly what you're talking about. Alex is trying to figure out that headline that is the sensational thing that will, you know, he's trying to figure out like, what can I stand behind? Where are my tits on this Bible? I'm not going to get sued.

Yeah. But what can I stand behind in terms of a headline that is fucking sensational is gonna freak people out? Man, he is not good with the English language. Truly, it is amazing to listen to that man walk, work. Yeah, I've noticed that. And if you read his books, kind of, one of the telltale signs that he didn't write it is some of the-

Senses make sense? Some have commas in the right places. and then some use words that I'm like there's no way you'd listen to thousands of hours of him talk and you get a sense of like alright this is the rhythm yeah yeah so anyway he goes on to lie more about the study sure and now we're sitting here while they're injecting medical workers in Colorado and other states with a live quote attenuated, but it's still live Ebola shot. And then 31% in their own government study, shed it on other people and

they get sick. Just like the Pfizer shot and the Moderna shot. You're like, well, they got big balls. Uh, yeah, the sky's the limit, folks. Yeah, skies the limit. So in that clip, you see the layers of made up shit that Alex is working with. He says that people in other states are being given this shot. He can't prove that unless, but he's just talking about his trials, clinical trials. And it was approved in 2019.

Right. I don't know. So he's misrepresenting 31% shedding number and making up out of thin air that people got sick because of it. He was making up that the Pfizer and Moderna shots caused shedding, those are mRNA shots and literally cannot cause shedding

because you aren't even being given a weakened version of the virus. I recognize that this might be a little bit repetitive, but there's something going on that Alex is doing in this episode that I wanted to illustrate. He has a very poor grasp on the story he's covering and making it into the biggest news of the day, so he has to constantly repeat the basics of the story in order to get used to the beats of it. He's practicing, and in one take he hits one exaggeration or fabrication. Then

in the next he works in a second one and as he goes along he combines them into the larger threads that make up the lie and then become the overarching narrative. We're essentially seeing conspiracy oral tradition in practice. Yeah. And it does not happen all the time. Like listening to his show you don't always this. And this is a really clear cut example of it. Yeah. Yeah. And there's, there's definitely that like that aspect that he brings that is so specific, which is it can only be him in the writer's room. Mm hmm. You know, like there's nobody there who's going to be like, no, edit that, cut it down. It's got to be something that's purely generated by this fucking idiot.

Mm hmm. Yeah. it down. It's got to be something that's purely generated by this fucking idiot. Yep. And, uh, you know, he goes on to practice some more here. Okay. So. They are in. How many years we've been doing this? And he's still here. Hospital workers. You know, there's other trials going on with a Ebola vaccine that creates this derivative of Ebola in the body that then replicates and then sheds on to other people. And then it lists here headaches, nausea, comas passing out bleeding source Ebola Ebola Ebola Ebola

So I wanted to be sensational Bill Gates caught injecting healthcare workers with live Ebola That's really what it is, but it's so Myself and say well, you know Let's talk about it coming up He's a public figure. It's probably fine. I'm probably ahead of this Because if you look at the globalist war games They're constantly talking about a bowler hitting the United States Or Europe and the panic it's gonna create

And How they're gonna use that for control and they're UN treaty So you can kind of feel like what Alex is doing is he's talking himself Towards the edge of more sensationalism. Yeah. He's trying to justify and rationalize by inch, by degree, trying to get there to the end goal, which is he wants to say that Bill Gates is trying to give everyone a Bola. He's just trying to get there. And I'm not sure that Alex fully understands what Ebola is. I was, I was trying to think of it as something, and then I was like a Bola vaccine sheds then spreads and I was like, and spread that's

a pretty fair. That's a pretty fair headline because in my head it's like, okay, the headline you make people want to read further. And then I was like, ah, ha, ha, ha, Jordan, you fool. An info world's world. The headline should be all of the information that you are looking for. Right. And the idea of writing anything further than that is all you is like, that's what you do to give somebody money infowars operates on the onion model. Yeah. You know, mostly the headline. So yeah, I don't I don't think Alex has a grasp on this this virus. I mean, I here's the problem. All right. Here's the problem.

And I think that's the that's what he really exploits. I don't think anybody other than a very, very informed scientist has a clear grasp on Ebola. Cause that's fucking Ebola. You can know some broad strokes of it. Sure, I know some broad strokes. Is that like Dustin Hoffman movie? Scary as shit. It's got like a little curvy thing whenever they show it on a microscope.

I get it. True. There's that curvy thing. It's a little curvy thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's terrifying. I get it. But it's not like I understand Ebola and how it makes, how Ebola is like specific. Ebola might as well be influenza, might as well be a virus, a virus in my head. Well then I guess I would advise you to look into it a little more because you can. I understand it. I can't. I understand that all that stuff. But as far as functional knowledge for human beings

as a whole, I could look that up. And I could know that for a very short period of time. And I think some of the unfamiliarity about it comes from a place of luxury that it is so disconnected from our reality is that you don't need to know much about it other than it's scary. For sure.

And that's what Alex is going to exploit. You know, but it's not like it's not like something that's unique to infowars listeners that is kind of like stupid. You know, like I'm trying to point out that I don't know that much about viruses is all I'm really trying to say. You didn't go to school for it. I did not. And you don't write a sub stack. I wish I wish it. Well, if I did, I would know less about viruses. I feel like based on my experience. That might be true. So as a distorted list of adverse events here that are seen in the or Vabo from the trials that they've had, I can't find comas listed anywhere. And when he says bleeding sores, I guess he just

means mouth sores bleeding sores. Yeah. just doesn't sound quite as scary. Where's his mouth sores? Or I didn't see passing out listed, but tiredness is on the list. So I guess that's close enough for jazz. Was when was the last time? Oh, you've been you've been you've been you've got passing out disease. Well, what are you talking about? So in terms of actual analysis of adverse events, the vaccine is In terms of actual analysis of adverse events, the vaccine is relatively few. Yeah.

It's a pretty safe profile for a vaccine. Cool. So we all know what this is about. Alex is sensationalizing like crazy. Yeah. And then dun dun dun dun. Because once they're identified, and once people admit the horror of what we're facing,

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dot com right now and take advantage of our new big special. Yes, it means I was all you know, it's all essentially leading to the call to action. Yeah. You know, I think that there's a deeply unethical part of this that starts the ad with now it's time to boost your immune system like he's obviously using the specter and fear of Ebola to sell his products. Yeah I mean there's no he got a he got a written letter from Leticia from New York right. Yeah it's the same thing. It's the same thing so if he can keep doing it then that letter really doesn't mean fucking shit, does it?

Well, there's a narrow set of actions that he took that caused that. Right. This is within the realm of like, shitty marketing behavior. Right. It's not, it's not, it's not something that's gonna get you a cease and desist. Sure. It's just deeply unethical. Right. I mean, but by letting it happen now, you understand that's what leads to the ceases and desists later.

Yeah, no, I agree with you. Okay okay I just don't know if the government can take action on something like that yeah whereas we can call it out and be like go fuck yourself you do so now it says something sad to discuss oh no and that is that well it's about Robert F Kennedy, and here is a Jezebel article and it reports on a do you read? Jezebel variety report an interview with the wife of RFK junior Cheryl

Heinz seems cool with RFK juniors conspiratories but draws the line and Alex Jones with RFK Jr's conspiratories, but draws the line in Alex Jones. And then she goes on to say, and it's a piece for her. That really hurts. She tells her husband, don't associate with Alex Jones, and with Steve Bannon,

and that he follows her orders. Cheryl. Cheryl. Well, it's not like I need him to come on my show. That would just add to his credibility. But it's all right here. Wow, your wife tells you and say interview, they're quoting an interview here. I don't just believe the media when I see it. This is her on a podcast.

R.F.K. Junior's wife has him by the balls. That's sad. That's sad, man. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun I don't even care which past. The president involved sentences like Cheryl Hines won't let Alex Jones play with RFK anymore. I do think that there was a past where I didn't know that Cheryl Hines was married to RFK Jr. It was a better past. It was. I gotta say that Alex has a weird line there where he says, I'm not just believing the

media this links to a podcast. Yeah. So you didn't listen to the podcast. You are just believing the media. You didn to a podcast. So you didn't listen to the podcast, you are just believing the media. You didn't consult the primary source. Nope, it links to the primary source and I didn't follow up on it. Yeah, yeah.

So I mean, you know, just, you know. That in a nutshell is so much like the, that is the level. That's do your own research. You know what I mean? Like that's what Alex is talking about when he says do your own research. When you're doing your own research. Go find somebody that says this thing. Go find somebody, but if they have a link, then it's real. Yeah, you're fine. If you hyperlink,

then you're real. You're fine. If a place doesn't hyperlink, if there's no hyperlinks, ah, that's just some asshole talking. Yeah, yeah. And in the case of some outlets that's generally like, you know, maybe you don't need to go as deep. Microsoft and Carter. Sure. Yeah. But, but, you know, it's something that's going to be exploited that that mind trick that's like, well, they wouldn't include a link if it didn't prove exactly what they said. Yeah, right. You know, and that you wouldn't you wouldn't hypertext something to nowhere. Oh my god. This is a blog post by dr. Marble unreal What is going on? Are we here? So this whole show is basically up to this point? And maybe you for a while just repetition of this narrative. Yeah. Yeah. It is just

Beats worked out by the way print me all the articles I asked you to show earlier headline AP Reuters majority of polio caused by polio vaccine That's gonna be very useful to show how that headline AP Reuters, majority of polio, caused by polio vaccine. That's going to be very useful to show how that's a live virus too, the same thing. Yes, our government with Bill Gates is injecting healthcare workers in Colorado and other states with live Ebola and they're shedding it. Do they know? Working down the street with a Pentagon project studying Ebola. You know it's a Pentagon project.

Did you try? Old headlines, Pentagon, cigarette release, bio weapon, kill people in New York. Subway is 1968. It's the same thing now. Our Pentagon is seized by globalist by eugenicists that are at war with us. Our military on average isn't bad. That's why they're being purged to give an experimental shots and talk critical race theory and transgenderism because they're purging the military sorry all teres great, but not the leadership what? So print me those articles as you pull up early I want to show that Dub tailing with all this to explain it next hour with dr. Richard Martlet and at other expert guests on this huge

Breaking now news story the government with Bill Gates is injecting medical workers with an Ebola vaccine that creates Ebola-like symptoms and spreads. Oh my gosh. And please support us. Please go to m4warstore.com and get amazing products like next-level foundational energy. Yeah, these products are great. So one aspect of what Alex is doing is practicing the narratives and working out the beats where he wants to exaggerate things. But another aspect is just repeatedly driving the narrative into the audience's head. He says this over and over and over because if you do that there's a better chance that your audience is just gonna take that on as

true. Whatever you're saying. Yeah. In this clip, Alex has directly connected the healthcare workers who were vaccinated with the Colorado State University Bat Lab, which is apparently a Pentagon project now too. Sure. It's just down the street, after all. The healthcare workers are in Denver and the CSU lab is in Fort Collins. It's a good 70 miles away, just down the road when the road's a highway. Sure.

Also, Alex is going to need to show that the lab is a Pentagon project and just talking about some unconnected incident from the 60s isn't going to help. Also, Alex is gonna need to show that the lab is a Pentagon project and just taking about some unconnected incident from the 60s isn't going to help. They got an NIH grant, but that's not going to cut it in terms of Alex's claim either. Another problem with Alex's narrative is the Fort Collins lab is explicitly not going

to be studying Ebola. It does not have the clearance to do that and the bats they're going to be studying are gonna be born there free from wild diseases. So there's no chance that Ebola is just gonna randomly pop up in that environment. Right. One of the reasons is there's no chance it'll randomly pop up in that environment. You get it. You get it. Yeah. So you can see how Alex has this narrative that's built up from all these distortions of various aspects of these two stories and on their own they don't

really do much but when they're combined, they form into a really powerful clickbait story that's gonna be useful to freak the audience out. That's what he's practicing on air here. The best way to combine his lies in an effective thesis statement that conveys the right amount of terror to the audience to get them to go to infowarstore.com.

Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about the distance there. And you know, in my head, from standup driving, you know, all that 70 miles, eh, it's about an hour. That's practically nothing. But then you think like, okay, 70 miles, but they're carrying coolers with like super deadly murder viruses, kill the whole world kind of stuff. You don't want to be driving that far.

You don't want to be driving an hour. You don't want to be driving 10 minutes. That should be walking distance. You know I'm saying, you know, you know who you call Smokey and the bandit. Oh, yeah for a convoy There's bats in East Arcana I think that would work. They're thirsty. They've got vaccines in Atlanta, right? Right, right. Okay. That's in Texarkana. I'm developing. I'm developing a plan. All right. So we we're in our high situation. We get Dr. Dick Bart. All right. We get we infect him with Ebola. That way he gets back into that hospital that he's not allowed to unless he's sick. No, because

then he would have to go to the one in Denver. That's the only one. No, because he's in Texas. I'm not sure. So each of the there's regional centers that cover a number of states. I'm not sure if that Denver one covers Texas. I did not. No, it doesn't because there is a Texas. There's one of those centers in Texas. All right. All right. Well, then my plan is starting to come together. No, it's foiled. Oh, shit. Wrong hospital. Damn it. So anyway, Alex rattles off his evidence here, and I think that this is worth paying attention to. And they're giving this experimental shot

to medical workers, and we have the studies that they're 30 plus percent are shedding it. How is it doing it? What's happening? And why is Dr. Bartlett saying, medical doctor, this is so dangerous. I think we can all imagine what's going to be here. Why do you have to repeat medical doctor?

Well, that's a more about you with us right now Ebola vaccine that sheds onto and infects others Shed it don't spread it Ebola vaccine that sheds onto and infects others 31% of the time, giving the Colorado healthcare workers just down the road from the new Ebola back lab in Colorado. Here is the immune Colorado announcement. Denver Health Medical Team receives Ebola vaccine. Give me an overhead shot on this,

I'll be able to show you all this. This is from the local government. Here's the actual breakdown of the so-called Ebola vaccine from the FDA. There's the document there. A randomized controlled trial of Ebola vaccine disease therapeutics. What these vaccines have done. All the outbreaks they've caused.

Shane Bill Gates backed the live Ebola vaccine distributed before Africa's 2016, 2018, 2020, 2021, 2022 outbreaks was just given to Colorado healthcare workers, US Army now developing new Ebola medicines. So it's not hard to see what's happening here. This is crazy. What are they doing to give vaccines? I disagree with that sentence. A vaccine that sheds of a deadly pathogen

to healthcare workers. This is a big, big deal. From the evidence I've seen, It's ultra illegal, ultra illegal. That's a legal designation. I hate to be doing something ultra illegal. So man, that sounds like a lot of evidence that Alex has rattled off. I really don't think it does. It feels kind of like he has this thing well documented. There were a bunch of headlines. I genuinely don't think I understand exactly what it was he was even trying to apply really. So what I'm going to do here is I'm going to take that clip and I'm going to go one by one

through the headlines that he used and illustrate why this is a pile of nothing. Yeah. So here's the first one. Okay. Ebola vaccine that sheds onto and infects others 31% of the time given to Colorado healthcare workers just down the road from the new Ebola Bat Lab in Colorado. So that headline is an article on John Fleetwood's sub-stack where he misrepresents that study about shedding in children. That study doesn't show that anyone was infected by this.

That's a fabrication on Fleetwood's part, which is why Alex is using the sub-stack post as a source instead of the actual study. It would be a, yeah. Also the Bat Lab isn't down the road and they aren't studying Ebola. John's sub-stack post doesn a source instead of the actual study. It would be a, yeah. Also the Bat Lab isn't down the road and they aren't studying Ebola. John's substack post doesn't prove any of this, it's just asserted in the headline,

which is the only part of any of this that Alex pays attention to. Further, John's post straight up lies. For instance, he says the CSU lab quote, proposals for the 14,000 square foot facility indicate the lab could store and study some of the most deadly or transmissible pathogens on the 14,000 square foot facility indicate the lab could store and study some of the most deadly or transmissible pathogens on the planet, including Ebola, Nipah virus, and COVID-19. You can find the grant summary for this bat lab, and they say in it, quote, pathogens

transmitted by bat vectors continue to burden the health of humans around the world as evident by the number of emerging zoonotic viruses that cause high mortality in humans that originate in bats. SARS-CoV, MERS-CoV, and SARS-CoV-2, Ebola virus, Marburg virus, Nipah virus, and Hendra virus. Then there's a side note right up to the side. We're not fucking with any of those. It says quote CSU does not and will not have these past pathogens or any on any of its campuses. These pathogens require the highest level of bio safety in a laboratory. CSU does not have laboratories with these capabilities. Research on these pathogens take place in other states with

specially equipped laboratories. So the proposal says the opposite of what John Substack is saying. New headline. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the local government. So that is a real headline. And so we've established thus far that some health care workers got a vaccine. Yeah, that is an uncontroversial fact. No one is disputing that health care happening. So here's the next one. Here's the actual breakdown of the so called Ebola vaccine from the FDA. There's the document there. So that's the FDA's page, including the approval of vaccine, this vaccine from 2019. Sure. And discussion of evidence of its efficacy.

This doesn't further any of Alex's narratives. FDA does job. Right, so we've established those two things, basically, and then John's sub-stack was nonsense. Here we go. Here's the next headline. A randomized controlled trial of all the vaccine disease therapeutics, what these vaccines have done,

all the outbreaks they've caused. That's about therapeutics, like monoclonal antibodies. Right. This has nothing to do with vaccines, but Alex doesn't know that because he hasn't read it and he doesn't understand this headline that he's cold reading. He claimed he was red all these for two hours.

Yeah. It's such bullshit. Yeah, that's dark. So here's the last headline. Okay. Shane Bill Gates, back to live Ebola vaccine distributed before Africa's 2016, 2018, 2021, 2022 outbreaks was just given

to Colorado healthcare workers, US Army now developing new Ebola medicines. So this is just another headline from John Fleetwood's upstack post posting that doesn't go on to justify its assertion. I noticed that this is pretty much all John Fleetwood stuff. And it made it click for me that this is like, Alex is reading off this headline about therapeutics and he thinks it's about virus. It may, the vaccine, excuse me, it made me understand that. He doesn't understand the story he's covering at all

and he's making it up as it goes along. But part of that Fleetwood blog post about shedding included complaints about the use of Remdesivir as one of the therapeutics people were trying in relation to Ebola, and he links to that New England Journal of Medicine article that Alex thinks is about vaccines. It seems clear to me that John Fleetwood

just sent all this over to Alex. He didn't read the therapeutics article, nor John's sub-stack posts, and has just made up his own story about it. The more I see how much of this is just kind of an ad for John's sub-stack, whether it's paid or not, like it's all just panic about Ebola, go to my store and read John's sub-stack. Either way, whatever the case, this is a mountain of evidence

that Alex is presenting behind his narrative and none of it means anything. He can fool his audience by rattling off a ton of headlines in a row, but if you take the time to assess them individually and see what he's talking about and where it comes from, you'll find that he hasn't proven anything, which is your instinct to begin with. So I think you were right on. You know what I find fascinating about that is that that is in essence intelligence failures,

like across across the board, whenever you have, you know, like 9-11, like, yes, you have all of the information, you have more than enough information, so much information so that if you hand it all to somebody, they're not going to be able to make any decision other than to pick out the information they already like and pursue that. Yeah, I mean, it's all noise to Alex. Exactly. And there's no actual signal time and curve.

Unless you have signal clear and you're fucked. Yeah. Well, thankfully, we have these two anti-facts weirdos on to clear up the signal. Oh, I don't think that's good. No, it's not. I don't think that's good. So here's Richard Bartlett showing up. Oh, Dick Bartlett. Never before have we had anyone in Denver, Colorado, or in Colorado at all vaccinated for Ebola. So this is history making two months ago. Why would they be doing that? They said they're doing it in preparation for a potential Ebola outbreak.

Why would they be thinking that's possible? Well, there's a lab being created down the street from Denver in Colorado Springs where they're literally, it's advertising that they will be doing bat research and it has's advertising that they will be doing bat research and it has been reported that they will be working with Ebola, Nipah virus and COVID. So notice the way that Bartlett said that there,

it's been reported that the lab is gonna work with Ebola and all this stuff. That's a crafty workaround where someone can kind of lie without technically lying. Yeah, I mean, if somebody says something, a synonym for saying something is reporting and if I say somebody is reporting something that's like reporters reporting something. So I was asking myself it's been reported but by whom is it just John Fleetwood's substack post? So that post on his

substack has a source which is a Daily Mail article which doesn't have any proof but it says quote proposals seen by this website show how the 14,000 square foot facility could store and study some of the most transmissible pathogens on the planet, including Ebola, Nipah virus, and COVID-19. They don't present these documents in the article, and I can easily find the grant proposal abstract that explicitly says the opposite. So I guess the burden of proof is on them, which hasn't been reached. So I can see that what they might be misrepresenting is that these conditions very well may be studied elsewhere using the bats that are born and raised in the Colorado lab that is in question, but that research will be doing being done elsewhere. Yeah. So I dug into this a little bit,

and I think I found out what's going on. There's two different grants, and they're being confused and conflated together. Everything that I've said is accurate about the Colorado State University Bat Lab that got this grant, but there's a second grant for a different thing that is also at CSU. Right, right, right. Like that time I confused Horace Grant and Hugh Grant. Big mistake. Love actually was the wrong movie that I was. Hugh Grant doesn't wear the goggles. No, doesn't wear goggles at all. So this is for research that's being done by a doctor named Tony Schoenze. The part that has like with Ebola, Nipah virus

and that stuff. He runs a lab at the Center for Vector-Borne Infectious Diseases, which is associated with the Colorado State University. Sure. This is a BSL3-level lab that has been around for decades that does work with insect as well as bat-related diseases. Schoutz got a similar grant with the title, quote, establishment of a bat resource for infectious disease research awarded in September 2023, whereas the grant for the bat lab is titled, quote, establishment of the BAT Resource Center for the Study of Zoonotic Diseases. And that was awarded two years prior and it is run by a completely different professor at the school. Right. Even so, this other lab is not going

to be dealing with Ebola. That's work that they may be associated with or participate in those studies, but that's being done at a different location where there's BSL for facilities and everything. You can look through the papers published by people at this lab and when they involve BSL4 pathogens like Ebola, the research is done elsewhere, like in the case of a 2018 study on snakes in Ebola that was done at the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases. Their grant application mentions some of these more serious

pathogens because that lab is actually studying those, but they're doing it elsewhere. Here's what I think is funny about that. We never stood a chance. No. The moment that happened, it should have been, everybody should have been like, oh, is this a good idea? And then it was never, yeah, this was gonna happen. So the issue that we come to at the bottom of this is that there are these two different grants that are being mixed up and conflated. Right, right, right.

And the Daily Mail article is relying on documents that were shown to them by the White Coat Waste Project, which is a right-wing animal rights activist group. And it appears that they may have gotten some of their facts wrong. I'm sorry? Whether it's through sloppy handling of facts or through intentional misrepresentation, I can't say.

But it appears that these two bat-related grants involved in Colorado State University have been turned into the same thing by figures of the conspiracy and right-wing media, and that's how we've gotten to the place that we're at now. Right, right, right. I'm still confused about Nazis that don't torture animals. I'm confused about this whole idea.

That's wild. It's, yeah, I didn't, I didn't look too deeply into them. Yeah, I would like more information on these silly people. I mean, look, I think that caring about animals isn't exclusive to the right. I, I, I, I, I'm not, I'm not saying that it is. I think caring about animals is certainly a great thing that all human beings do, organizing around it. Organizing around it and right wing principles seems very difficult to do though.

I think some of it may be a cover for anti-vax beliefs because a lot of the stuff that I found on their website was about like the Wuhan lab and shit. You need a free animal testing clinics but really we're not caring about the animals so much as we are making sure that all scientists are murdered. I don't want to say that for sure, that they don't care about animals

because they're very well made. I don't know enough about the subject. We all care about animals. But it does seem like a lot of their coverage is about anti-vax stuff. I've seen a lot of that. So that's what's going on with this lab shit. There are two different grants that no one is realizing

that they're talking about the wrong one. And so there we are. And if they are, they really don't care and they wouldn't want you to know anyways. I detect obliviousness. Yeah, yeah, no, totally. But I mean, even if they did know, it'd be like, well, we're just gonna, it's better for us

if she said the same. So Alex has said hello to Bartlett and now he throws it to the old Fleetwood all right I want to spend a few minutes with your highly recommended investigative journalist familiar with his work John Fleetwood John fleetwood comm on sub stack that John you've been helping Kolei to get this all together We got about three minutes four minutes to break. Give us your view on what you're witnessing Well if I can general Jones, it's it's an honor to be on your show. I've been listening to you for a long time.

I learned how to read and report the news from you and your crew. And if I could, I would just like to recommend that everybody get survival shield on infowarstore.com. I haven't gotten sick since I've been taking that. Bad start. They just, it's like, it's like they, it's like a disease. It's like a call and response thing. Just you know like, ah you're welcome to the show.

Hey, I love whatever crazy product you're selling your ass off today. You taught me how to report the news. Oh my god. Get ready to get sued down the road somewhere then buddy. Wow. Because you've been taught an irresponsible model. His monotone sounds almost computerized. It's bad. You think it's a class Schwab AI? It has that but it has a vibe to it. It's not good. Well, let's

hear a little bit more of him and see what you oh, I agree with that. And Alex gets real fucking bored of him. I believe that I believe that strongly. Yeah, apparently the compliments and flattery are not enough in this case. But here, listen to a little more of them. So what I like to do is see the whole picture here and how everything is connected. The Ervibo vaccine is made by Merck, pharmaceutical company, and Merck is owned by BlackRock Vanguard and State Street. Alex, you report on those asset managers a lot.

BlackRock has 10 trillion dollars Under management sure that's more than the GDP of every country in the world leaving out the the US and China big things to leave Problem here, that's how it connects with the WEF. Oh Okay, so seeing whole picture is code for drawing connections wherever I want to in order to write a fun story Yeah, Vanguard holds nine point18% of Merck stock, BlackRock 5.13% and State Street 4.57%. Even combined they don't represent a controlling interest even if you add in the stuff that's held in mutual funds that they control of Merck stock. It's still only a few percentage points more than that. All said the three companies are about 30% of the stock,

which is a lot, but Yahoo Finance did an analysis and found that, quote, 25 of the top shareholders collectively own less than 50% of share register, but also found that only 22% of the stock was held by the general public. Sure. So it's not a great picture, but it's not what he's saying. Fleetwood has taken some stuff. He's got out of context about Merck stock in order to connect the manufacturer of the Ebola vaccine to BlackRock Vanguard and State Street, which then allows him to connect it to the World Economic Forum and the boogeyman of the season, Clashwab. Yeah, seems like there's an easier path to this. The World Health Organization. I think you just draw even even but it's fun to talk about black rock

street in fact here's my problem here's my ultimate problem with all these fuckers all right this is what we're down to brass tacks brass it brass tacks all right fuck all your conspiracy theories if you're gonna pull this shit take one of them down all right get all your conspiracy nuts take down vanguard whatever, and then see what happens. To just see like, oh, does any of this connection shit actually make any

fucking sense? Knock over a domino and then see where the rest of them fall. Stop telling me about it. Well, they're also so annoying. Well, they're also like ignoring. I thought it was funny because like Charles Schwab also owns a lot of those. Yeah, exactly. I think maybe you don't bring that up because it confuses you. It would make people think they're too many. Yeah. Oh, you know, Clous and Charles, are they brothers or are they working together? Yeah. Fuck it. Oh my God. So when you say knock down one of the dominoes,

do you mean, what do you mean? I just knock it over. However, however they choose to interpret that sentence, the point is, I don't know if that's possible on an individual level, but sure. No, but that's what I'm saying, all right? In your head, if you imagine the absence of this one company, exactly, yes.

What does that then imply? Right. Yeah. Yeah. That exercise would be difficult. Yeah. Because it's all connected, baby. That's how this is all connected.

The WVF is the head. Maybe you can go behind that and point to the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. Maybe you can do that. But what we can prove is that the W.E.F. is pushing this depopulation agenda. They're great reset at the end of which you'll loan nothing and you'll be happy. They have this official partner BlackRock, this asset manager who owns all of the pharmaceutical industry. They also own all the news industry from CNN, ABC, CBS. Wow, they got them both. Fox News. So the same-ass managers who run all the news agencies from Fox News to CNN, it doesn't matter if it's left or right, it's mainstream,

it's owned and controlled by BlackRock, who's a partner with the WEF. This is a real boardwalk and part of the pharmaceutical industry. This is from Pfizer, is owned by BlackRock. AstraZeneca is owned by BlackRock. AstraZeneca is owned by BlackRock. Johnson and Johnson is owned by BlackRock. So they own the government responses on the regulators for all, and now they're injecting people in Libobola in Colorado. I mean, it's just what an incredible scandal.

Amazing scandal. See, now this is what I'm talking about, all right? Because this is fucked. You can't do that. You cannot do that shit. Because now you have said they own the media Which is already something that I hate right all right? They own the government which is already something I hate they own all the fucking pharmaceutical companies you have

Accidentally concentrated too much power in too small a space in an imaginary villain Yeah, because in this in this case now there's only one answer which is let's go fuck those guys up right now because you know alternative Yeah, you you you're totally disempowered. I can't I can't I can't be in the media that doesn't mean anything I can't be if you try to get a message down to the media. They'll just destroy you yep They go in the government so you can't get any reform what's so important for these is the aspect of it's possible to make change from the inside for these is the aspect of it's possible to make change from the inside. You know, there has to be that level of like, if we stop this, if we get the Patriots in the stuff,

if we do the right thing, you can't concentrate too much power there because then the answer suddenly becomes, okay, well then we'll get 30 guys and we'll kill this guy. Or, that's what we have to do. Well, maybe that's where your mind goes, but the other alternative is read my sub-stack. That's a good point.

Yeah, if you did. I had not considered that. Because when you disempower an audience so heavily the way you're describing, Sure. there is the reaction that is like, well, now we go Project Mayhem. And then there's also the reaction that's like,

well, I can't really do anything about this. I better support the people who are fighting, and those people are Alex, John. See, I, but that's the thing, like I agree with you. I just don't understand the support that people part because to me it's like, well, anything that isn't solving the problem that you have clearly laid out.

Right. There's no mistaking it. Yeah, but there's this imaginary premise that's built in that once we expose that this is the reality, you can do something about it or whatever. See, you just can't make them too powerful. That makes your options so limited.

It should. It should make it that way. But somehow, you know, everybody's just in a passive state of... That's fair. That's fair. I'm the full thinking that things matter. So it is true that asset management companies represent a significant problem that we need to address through greater regulation and likely breaking them up.

But just pretend that they control everything. It's a lazy cop out. What does it mean to someone like John Fleetwood that BlackRock owns these companies? It doesn't mean anything in his world because it's not a concrete claim. It's just a shortcut to connect various threads together. Honestly, this stuff does make me kind of mad. Maybe not as mad as you, but I'm a little mad. I'm an angry person because companies like Black Rock Vanguard and State Street are an issue we need to deal with. But shit like this will never begin to mount

actual opposition to the companies except for hypothetically what you're talking about, like blowing up a fair. You know what I mean? No, I mean, I think that what you're saying is that that is a conclusion that if you take in John's Yeah premise of them well in you're saying go over and fuck them up in the world We exist in you can say these guys are a problem. Okay, so now we have legislation on the table That's going to curb the amount of blood that you can own it, but yeah, that's a way we can handle this Antitrust is something that has been done in the past. It's something that is possible. Yeah, yeah, Teddy Roosevelt, blah, blah, blah, blah.

You have now established, though, that the same people who I would be regulating if I got into government, my own damn self, own it. So I can't do that. There's no avenue other than violence or an aspect of something, you know, like subterfuge or like stealing it. Like, what is essentially submission in the form of just, yeah, I'm just saying like,

yeah, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's, um, it's a creating a impotence in terms of dealing with the actual problem, which to me is really frustrating because you just turn them into a boogeyman that's like you pretend to fight against and you're not fighting against anything. No, I find I find them so much more terrifying because they don't care. Like Alex and John. No, no, no, the the black racks and the vanguards and all that. Like if if I true, if I believed that they were trying to kill us all, I would at least be like, well, at least they acknowledge that other human beings exist. I think the most terrifying aspect of them is that they don't care.

They own 5% of Merck, but that's just because they get a better return on investment. It has nothing to do with pharmacy. It doesn't mean anything. We'll get 5% extra compared to if we invested in this. It means nothing to us. Human beings are nothing to us. Yeah, that's scary. Yeah. And you know, to whatever extent the individuals within the company may have some humanistic feelings and stuff like that. That is probably the case. But as an entity, that it is a bottom line issue. And yeah, it does suck. But anyway, my large point is that this is just

right as we've illustrated disemempowering boogie man nonsense that doesn't help anything. So Bartlett comes back in. The number one cause of polio now in Africa is the live virus vaccine virus. And so what could happen with a live Ebola virus vaccine that they have already started to use in Colorado? We can only imagine. But we need to intervene and stop this gain of function genetic engineering with deadly viruses. It's supposed to be a level four

bio safety lab if it's going to work with Ebola. And it's been reported that that lab is supposed to be a level two, which should not, is not supposed to be working with Ebola. So we need to have more information. We need eyes on this. We need everybody scrutinizing what's going on with that lab right now and call a lot of springs. So you can see how much of this traces back to

and relies on misrepresentations about the polio vaccine and insisting that this one, this vaccine is the same. It's sloppy. So Bartlett wanted people to look into this stuff, so I have, and I found that his work is shit. The labs in Fort Collins, not Colorado Springs, they aren't doing gain of function research. The lab that works with the more dangerous diseases

is a completely different lab associated with CSU, and that one is a BSL3 lab. Right. They're just countless errors with the narrative that's being put forth and that's because this isn't an organic conspiracy which is to say it's a conspiracy that begins with a conclusion and is working backwards to fill in the details. Yeah. I scrutinize the information presented. I have eyes on this as Bartlett has requested and I find it all lacking. It is shit. I have eyes on this as Bartlett is requested. I find it all lacking. It is shit. If I was concerned about a lab having a disease potentially capable of killing a large number of people and possibly people planning to release it through that.

The absolute last thing that I would want is a bunch of my conspiracy weirdos around the lab. Even if, even if I know for a fact there are evil shady businesses going on with there, they are only going to cause more problems than they are helped the situation. Well, the good news is the lab that they're all worked up about isn't the right one. That's also good. So in terms of the damage they can do, it's probably negligible. but also they can still harass the shit out of people and make them miserable and that's really inappropriate. Sure.

And that's undoubtedly happening. Again, don't, don't fuck with people near any disease labs. Why are disease labs a place that you would be like, let's go hang around there? That you, you shouldn't be hanging around there. Not a cool place. They should be under domes of, I'm all about domes. I'm telling you, domes are huge. You love a dome.

I love a dome. So Fleetwood comes back in and I gotta say, I'm all about domes. I'm telling you domes are huge. You love a dome. I love a dome So Fleetwood comes back in and I gotta say I'm worried about this guy. Oh, listen to this shit Okay, so what I do for example for for my COVID research is I go to PubMed I type COVID and I type Vaccine I hit enter and then I sort by date. So I get the most recent peer reviewed studies right there at the top.

And all I do is I go looking for oil. I go reading through all the most recent headlines with those two keywords. There's usually about a dozen, sometimes more, for some reason with the turn of the new year, there have been a lot more studies that have been coming out talking about COVID-19. Give me one thing you learned that you didn't expect.

You go looking through the headlines for something that you think, there might be oil there. You click it, you then go read the abstract, which you're always quoting on your show, the abstracts of these studies. Anybody can read these, and if you can't read them, just copy the stinking thing, plug it into chat GPT, or plug it into whatever a i uh... type simplify and hit enter and it'll it'll simplify you dumb it down as much as you want explain this to a kid explain this to uh... high school or if explain this to me like i'm five

sometimes you have to do that with some of these studies but anybody can do that all man that is bad that's a bad process okay so during prohibition uh... right the government uh, very wisely was like, let's poison a bunch of beer. And then when people drink it, they'll be like, let's not drink beer anymore. And then later on, the government was like, we murdered a lot of people by poisoning the beer. Right. I feel like that is exactly what is happening when

that guy says like, just put it into chat GPT. Like you are poisoning a lot of fucking people with this. Information wise here. I mean, what you're doing is a shit process. I mean, that's insane. There's multiple levels of shit process that are going on here. There's the relying on AI to explain things to you.

Everything about that is wrong. Not good. Not good. Second, there is the I'm just going to go on a fishing expedition for COVID vaccine stories and studies that seem appealing to me. Here's what's not good. Here's what I don't want to hear from a PhD candidate. My research process was I picked two words and scammed. That's not good. And then I had a robot help. Yeah. So I Yeah. So I gotta say I'm worried about this

guy. I'm worried. I'm worried. Yeah. They love Bill Gates even though you look at him and he looks like you say it looks like a gargoyle and he doesn't look healthy at all. Like we're taking we're taking you know health advice from somebody who doesn't lift who who doesn't go to infowars store and take those supplements I hate you so much and this guy who by the way says his favorite meals a hamburger Oh my god listening to this guy for advice. Can you believe it? He doesn't lift all right, sir? I apologize for this, but a swirly is about to commence. Yeah

for this but a swirly is about to commit yeah fucking dorky doesn't go to info war store and buy all those great products excuse me swirly go up are you is this a job interview ridiculous you do it doesn't buy all the great products at you it's a pretty impressive stuff lay it on thicker Christ so we get to some actual information that we would bring to the table. Because at this point Bartlett's lunch break is over and he's got to go back to the clinic. He's got to go back to you. Yeah. So Alex is just left with this guy.

Sure. And so here's something. The insert for the year Vivo vaccine that they're giving to these Denver Health workers in Colorado, it says that they can detect viruses in the saliva and urine of the vaccinated individuals for up to 28 days. Now, that doesn't mean that they went looking and they did the studies and tested for a year or two years to find out how long it was, and it's only 28 days. They're just saying 28 days at least. That's a flat out lie. From the FDA insert, quote,

viral shedding was greatest on day seven and declined thereafter with no shedding detected after day 28. John is making this up because he's just consulting the FDA insert instead of reading the study that that's based on, which is the study that we discussed earlier. Because he doesn't know the underlying source,

he doesn't know that this study actually did track the children for three months and found that there was no shedding after day 28 and none after the second dose for those that got the second dose. So that's the problem when you go fishing is that once you've caught what you're looking for, you don't then go follow up on it. Yeah. You go home and you fry up your fish. Yeah, I mean it's it's you know Just when you're looking for oil and the oil that he's looking for is shit that'll freak out my anti-vax audience Right, so yeah, it's his process of shit right leads him to bad information and hey, it's black It comes from the ground and it smells terrible. It can't be shit. It's gotta be oil bingo, Yep bingo

So here's the would say it's more dumb stuff this very same vaccine Made by Merck who's an official partner of the World Economic Forum owned by Black Rock Vanguard State Street in Disney World There are you or Vibo? ER V EBO vaccine that we've been talking about was given in mass campaigns across Africa before the 2016 outbreak, before the 2018 outbreak, before the 2020 outbreak, before the 2021 outbreak, and before the 2022 outbreak at least. So these are reported in major mainstream. And that's the biggest takeaway is they give these shots outbreaks happen

So are you expecting an outbreak in Colorado? Well, we're not no Stradamus say yes, and the answer is yes What are you doing opportunity to talk about it? I don't even have to be serious something like this, but it's highly highly suspect and it's in mainstream sources Oh, my highly highly suspect. How do in mainstream sources. Oh my highly highly suspect How do you not fucking know how to do this? I think that is probably the way to do this because you know You don't want to be on the hook for saying yes in case nothing happens You probably should say yes. You just want you to say yes even if you're a regular doctor. You're like

So I consulted John's sub stack article about this and he fails to demonstrate that these vaccines were given out before the outbreaks he's listing off. He does need to prove chronological and causal connection in order to make the sort of claims that he's making and he does nothing of the sort. Further, he doesn't seem to have any understanding of the ring vaccination paradigm that they used where the vaccines were given out after identification of cases to the people who had close contact with the person infected like a ring around them. Take for example the 2018 outbreak that began in the Kivu provinces of the DRC.

John says that Merck approved sending the DRC 7,500 doses in May 2018 and then in August 2018 there was an outbreak. He does nothing to illustrate that those doses were administered to anybody when in reality Could just be that they stockpiled those for use whenever an outbreak did come sure needs to illustrate this and he doesn't So it works or in the case of the 2021 outbreak He says that in November 2020 the WHO announced that they had vaccinated more than 40,000 people in the course of that outbreak in the DRC which was declared over. Then,

in February 2021, there was another outbreak in the DRC. These were in entirely different locations. The outbreak that had ended in 2020 was in the Equator Province, and in the February 2021 one was in the North Kivu Province. They're distinct from one another, so claiming that vaccinations in one region caused the outbreak in the other is gonna require a little bit more work on John's part, which he has not done. I know what I'm a watching polio die if I'm if I'm there on the last day of polio watching that poor virus breathe its last go right mm-hmm my next thought is who's fucking next man you know like I'm going now we're going after this virus until every

last one of them is dead. You know, but it is, it is so much like. Marburg, you're on the list. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every fucking one of you is gonna die. You're that kind of thing. But it is like looking at this, there are five outbreaks in the,

it's just money. Like we have the money to make the vaccine for everybody in the Congo, you know? It is theoretically possible. There are other factors that are at play. I, I, as you read up on it, there are reasons why a blanket vaccination campaign is not necessarily the strategy that they would go with.

Right, right. I understand. But that's not, that's not my point. I understand. Point is not this particular virus. Yeah. It is that the, we exist in a space where it's like, we could just say, fuck it. We're not doing something else today

until we destroy this virus and that's something that we can't do it is unfortunate because vanguard owns five percent of everything or whatever you know I know I know I know I know there's a lack of public will also like you may have that vigor but Alex doesn't know totally I'm just no that's what it's not. It's not like me being like, oh, this is all it is like this is humanity in a way. Capitalism is a function in it. Sure. It plays a role for sure. But to say it's all that I just think is.

Oh, no, I imagine trying to convince people that now you could say that there are secondary implications of Alex's financial and capitalistic motives sure that play into his opposition sure to taking care of some of these issues you might be able to make an interesting argument down those lines but yeah it's it's a mess I agree with you though I think that it would be an interesting next evolution of our you know society to take take on the paradigm of fuck you viruses. I mean, it is hard. It is. It is genuinely hard for me.

Like if I stop and remove myself from from being an ape for like five seconds, it's legitimately truly insane to think that the Iraq war happened and we haven't gotten rid of more than polio. You know what I mean? Like it's just insane. Yeah. If it is just a matter of throwing money at it, which that is a large part of it that is uncautionable. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It is. It's just crazy. So back to John here for him. There's problems like what I was describing all over because this is the result of someone having a conclusion that they're going to arrive at and then molding the information they find to get to that conclusion. That's all he's doing. Yeah, it's all shit. But if you take nothing away from this episode, know that I had to do it because of the cover of 3000 a day. The new. It really is. It's you have to see. You just have to see it.

It I I as I was preparing this episode, I kept questioning myself. Am I overstating overstating this no and then I would pull back up the picture and I would laugh yep Yep, it's crazy. No every every single thing of like the the chuck tingle Cover, you know that all of those will never compare to somebody who's so earnestly Making a dick like that, but this is amazing amazing but it's art to say the chuck tingle isn't art but it is realistic there are pictures of people on the covers and stuff and this is much more I mean it's something it's something so Alex you can really tell that he's getting bored of talking to this so I have to extrapolate out finish your point Glenn I'm just saying it's it's the same we've seen this before. Well, after they're strapped laid out, give a, give a short thing, but we have to

travel it out. They're trying to create a secret project to have Ebola cases and then test on people that have Ebola. All right, let me teach you how to do that. Ebola testing projects and going on. Sweet, what shit, man. That's what it looks like to me. Yeah, and you, and you asked the right question. Why are they doing this? I didn't ask a fucking question.

Why are they doing this? And that's a good question. Yeah, it's and you asked the right question. Why are they ask a fucking question? Why are they doing this? And that's a good question. Yeah, it's a good question. So yeah, he was good. He was complaining about Remdesivir prior to that clip starting and Alex you could just tell is just like, I'm not interested in this too late, buddy. Too late, buddy. We need to tell a story two years too late I am just gonna throw out some fucking weird shit cuz just absolute that was that was about as much of a step aside

let me show you that's done make this exciting for a little bit cuz you're boring man that's about this up a quick nut here's what's going on the secret experiment where they want to absolutely it's 100 and it's somebody doing a pitch like no, your screenplay sucks. Yeah. All right. Here we go. We got two people walking to it or it's somebody who's like, uh, I got to step in here and save the ship and I'll lay back and let you forward people for a little bit longer. Yeah. Yeah. So he does. And, um, yeah, like when I was hosting open mics, there'd be like three bad guys in a row and you'd be like, Hey, Hey, I know you're not next, but you're next. Get up there.

Yeah, we need to save this thing. Yep. So unfortunately, another bad performer comes to the stage in the form of John talking more and he's the basic premise here is that you can't get an emergency authorization, emergency use, emergency use authorization for something. And if there is a safe and effective thing to be used. Right. So if there is an Ebola outbreak, they can't get an emergency use authorization for some new vaccine. Right. But that's ridiculous because the FDA has already approved the vaccine that they're talking about. But this ends

up with him talking about a treatment for Ebola that he believes is safe and effective and perfect. Oh, God. We have treatments for Ebola that are safe and effective. Remember the EUA, the emergency use authorization. I don't know if they're going to maybe be making a new Ebola vaccine that they might have to get an EUA for. I don't know, but if they try to do that, what I know is you can't get an EUA if you have safe and effective treatment for the disease, which with COVID we had BUDESINID, potentially Ivermectinin and down the list now so you can't get any way for dangerous m r and a or other vaccines

uh... if if there is safe and effective treatment for the disease well with the ball uh... it turns out we do have safe and effective treatment that the n i h no f d a have already confirmed how good so what are those treatments i'd i am the first one is called n

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it is safe and effective it's an antiviral safe and effective treatment against ebola how do i know that don't well i do it alex jones does and i just quote peer-reviewed published research that's already been established. This was published in iScience. It's a peer-reviewed scientific journal back in 2019. So we've known at least for 2019, but it goes back even farther than that.

Here's a headline from iScience. Peer-reviewed study. The FDA approved oral drug Nidazoxanide, amplifies hosts, antiviral responses and inhibits Ebola virus. Huh? It inhibits Ebola virus, NTC, according to iScience 2019. Sure, so we know they suppressed therapeutics during the COVID deal. Yeah.

They're obsessed with it. That is exhausted. The WF, the UN says it's imminent and now we know they're injecting people with a live sloughing virus. It's a giant crime. And Trump, if he gets reelected, it's got to put a stop. It's we got to shut down these bio weapon labs. It's how the global span to get pure power. They've admitted their own documents. They're going to use viruses for control. He can get a lot of stuff. This one example. And it's so can't let the play what they're doing. I just want to jamble and it's so can't let the plane what they're doing

Yes, sir, I'd love to hear your thoughts on on Trump. Oh Wow, that's that's fun. Wow. Yes, sir So that study that John is citing about NTSE they found that it's effective in vitro, but it's not been tested in vivo Which is to say that shows promise in cells, but they've never done an actual test on human bodies, which would be very difficult except in the case of in the context of a compassionate use within an active pandemic or outbreak, excuse me. But this distinction, maybe the AI that he was using to explain the study to him didn't didn't pick that up. Possible.

Also you can really tell that Alex is bored. And you're so right. Like Alex can't even get the wheels moving. I mean that is so boring. We're in mud. So boring. How many times he said N-T-Z, then he repeated Nancy-Zoot-Oh my god. And do you know what? Do you know what? Here's how Pachennic ends that. Do you know how I know? Because I gave myself Ebola and then cured it. I was patient zero.

Pachennic ends it. Yeah, not like this. Not like this. Do you know I know I look up peer-reviewed studies. This isn't fancy That's not that's not a doesn't cut it. That's not a swing. No the fuck out of you Something you mumbled at the beginning of the clip made me remember that I had totally forgotten that Mike Adams cured Ebola. Ebola drink. Yeah. Mike Adams cured Ebola by putting some Ebola. A little Ebola. Get some vodka. Put it in the drink. And nom nom nom nom nom. Now I am cured. Yeah, that's that's the kind of shit that flies out at four. That is the type of shit. So you've won last clip here and it's kind of satisfying in some ways. I want a cage fighter to go up against the mainstream media.

I want to know how you swear the thing and I understand that he didn't want forced injections on all that, but he did go along with Warp Speaks. He wanted to open the economy and I'm really concerned they could pull another virus and he might go along with it. We need to see more. I'm supporting Trump overall We just see more decisive statements that he won't go along with the new viral power grab But they'll run the same play against him again Your take on that Can you hear me John Fleawood

Yeah, we just lost John's audio. Alright, just reconnect with John. Heartbreaking. And we'll come back to him. Folks, here's what happens in slavery. Oh! It's being normalized. They have level four bio weapon labs, over a hundred of them across the country.

And they're testing every horrible pathogen and souping them up, gain of function, it's totally illegal and they're doing it in the name of safety but it always leads back to them where it's released from and they get all the power out of it. So they have the motive, they have the history, they block the therapeutics, these are bad people. John, I was asking what you think of Trump supporting warped speed as your audio back. All right, well, in the interview now, thank you, John. I appreciate you joining us. Great points. Great points. Great points. Yep. Kind of kind of fitting. Just a man.

I feel like he in many ways was responsible for all of the content on the show because of Alex's Dancing around and in beating the getting the beats of this argument and this narrative in the in the beginning But then once he actually shows up he ground this thing to a halt. He doesn't got it. No, that's no chop That's rough. Yeah, that's rough. He I He doesn't think he did a good job. He can't like you're the way he said. Yes, sir. I know. But though he knows the problem is he studied. He knew what to do and then he fucking with me and promoting Alex. Yeah, yeah, he knew the general Jones and he just doesn't have.

He's not on Mike. He doesn't he shouldn't be on Mike. I would say that there is a there's a probable dynamic. Yeah, to that. Brutal. Yeah, but you know, Alex will probably still use his sub-stack articles to come up with bullshit in the future. So he can take solace in that.

But yeah, not a prime performance. You got to, you know, that's the thing. This is an industry that attracts people who do not wanna do the work. But dude, dude, he did try. He tried, yeah he did. He said that Bill Gates doesn't lift, stuff like that. Like he was there, he was, he tried.

He did all of the stuff, he tried, he listened, and then he thought he was doing an open mic. He thought he was like, oh, I fucking practiced in front of my mirror. So when I go up on stage and I talk to Alex, it'll be real easy. I know what I'm doing. And then he fucking chunked it.

Yeah, and maybe he had the misguided opinion that Alex wanted to get into the weeds. Yeah, maybe. You know, like, he's wrong about a lot of the details of these stories, but he was trying to get like kind of granular with the parts that he's Wrong about he was and I think that Alex really wants the broad shit like there's a secret program there They want to test on Ebola patients. That's the idea. Yeah, that's where you that's the territory We want to be in yeah

He was taking it to a place that's boring as shit and the audience doesn't really care about yeah And then I'm not trying to trouble what he's trying to get the body of the article, not the headline. Yes. And that's the problem. Alex is all headline. Nobody don't spread, baby. So look, I think that this was a crazy pile of nonsense for Alex's show. Yeah. And I think that until earlier today, when Alex is talking about the session and all this stuff, I figured we're going to have to be dealing with this Ebola vaccine stuff for a while. And now I kind of think that maybe this is not a priority anymore. Hooray!

That's nice. I like that. So hopefully this is a bottle episode. Yeah. Whatever we move on to is different. But yeah. So Monday is going to be going to be a mess. Yeah, it we move on to is different. But yeah, so Monday is going to be going to be a mess. Yeah, it could be. So right. We'll be back with whatever. But until then we have a website. We do indeed. It's knowledge right.com. We're also on blue sky. We are on blue sky.

It's knowledge right. Yeah, but until then, Leo Leo Leo MDZ X Clark can't make that musical I'm trying to do it yeah yeah and now here comes the sex robots Andy and Kansas you're on the earth thanks for holding so I like some of her same color I'm a huge fan I love your work I love you