Knowledge Fight - #897: February 7, 2024

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex covers the announcement that Tucker Carlson is going to be releasing an interview with Vladimir Putin.  Also, Alex gets mad about female SWAT teams for no reason.

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Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today is I got a haircut. Yes, you did. And I'm thrilled about it. I think it was a good job they did.

Yes. At the barber, at the hair cuttery. In grade. I think that actually is a place, like a chain of. It is. I did not go to a hair cuttery. You did not actually is a place, like a chain of... It is. I did not go to a hair cuttery. You did not.

I know because your hair looks quite nice. So I did that and it was an interesting experience because there was a fight going on between two of the barbers. Interesting? It was real passive aggressive. And... What kind of a fight?

I don't know, I had something to do with someone not refilling the warm towels or something. At least that was a part of it. but there was there was clearly layers to it Sure, sure, and part of it seemed like maybe they were having fun But then another part of it felt like it's really hostile right right And when you're mid haircut, that's not I mean you can't move You know you sure like I'm out of here at least you weren't mid shape That's a part of it. I do you know, I do get a haircut.

The beard trim. And yeah, but you don't do the straight razor. Oh yes. You did. Yeah. Did you get it? Uh, yesterday? Yes.

Oh my God. You're a beard girl. So fucking fast. It does. It is a mess. It is a mess. But that's why I'm astonishing. But that's why it's like, I could get to the state I was in yesterday.

Sure. Sure. Sure. Where there's just, yeah just ridiculous amount of hair growing out of my head. I learned that lesson over and over again. It's like you feel so much better when you just chop it off. Yeah. You know, and I keep forgetting it whenever it's you know, I get lazy. Yeah, that happens. Second bright spot. Sure. Correction. Wait. A correction. Gene Hackman is still alive.

Yes, yes, that is true. On the last episode, I definitely said that Gene Hackman was dead. I think this is another Mandela effect. Like Clarence Carter. I could have sworn those dudes were dead. But I was wrong. Sorry about that. Hey, hey, Gene glad to know you're still kicking around, buddy.

By the way, he's a huge listener. He's the one who reached out to let us know he wasn't dead. Yep. He was like whatever his lines from Hoosiers were. Right. He was mad that I didn't bring up that movie he was in with Jason Lee. The fuck was that called?

I bet he doesn't know. Man. Gold diggers, it's something along those lines. Anyway, what's your bright spot? I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah, lines. Anyway, what's your bright spot? I know, I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your bright spot? My bright spot, Dan, is a boy.

I don't know if you know this, but we were designed to hype. That is true. We're hypes, hypers? Heartbreakers is the name of it. Heartbreakers, that's what it, cause it has a what's-her-face in it. Jennifer Love Hewitt.

That's her name. How do you do it? I'm looking up the. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Also Ray Leota Ray Leota. I swear to God, I was about to say, oh, pretty sure he's dead. Yeah, probably. Sigourney Weaver also. I think every episode now we should end with somebody being dead. And we're wrong about. Yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm sorry, I interrupted you with that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I've been putting a lot of work into a certain something that will come to fruition hopefully soon. And I've got a lot of good news and I'm really excited about it. It was really, really cool and I think everybody's going to like it. Okay, we'll hear more. What a amazing hype.

It's a hype. I'm just saying that there's something to be hyped about. Okay. That will be revealed in near future. Maybe on Monday. Maybe on Monday. We'll find out then. Could be, but I'm hyping it.

Hyped. You're going to see something very bizarre mirrored back in your face in just a minute. Okay. So Jordan. Yes. Tucker Carlson, the most important man in the world, sure, has gone to Moscow to interview Vladimir Putin. Yep. We took a little bit of a gamble. And I thought that the interview was going to come out on Wednesday. And so we would be able to cover it for this Thursday episode would be nice because I do think that the adjacency of Alex to Tucker, the importance of Putin and their world, I do think that it's something that merits coverage on

our show. And I thought, hey, that'll that'll be wild. That's going to be, I don't even know what to expect, quite frankly, in terms of the depths it'll go to. I mean, I was trying to think of something similar, and it would be like in 1943, some fucking yellow journalist who goes and interviews Hitler in the middle of World War II, just being like, hey man, how you doing? And doesn't interview them like, challengingly. This thing hasn'tly doesn't come out and you already I mean you know it's not

going to be like the really put in the feet to the fire yeah yeah so I thought that it'd be great to cover this for Thursday for we record on Thursday for the Friday episode but unfortunately turns out it's being released Thursday which is when we're recording right now as we speak So turning it around would be too difficult impossible in fact Some some have speculated the time and space would need to fold they would yes So we're gonna do that for Monday, which is not what you were hyping No, we're hyping something different, but that also should be hyped sure yeah

Monday's gonna be more actually turn this episode off. No. Oh, okay. Never mind So we're gonna cover that for Monday But what I thought would be interesting is covering Alex's response to the news that this is comic That's kind of what I figured would be a good hype. Yeah Yeah, we're talking about Alex's show from the seventh, which is Wednesday and you know He's a big dumb dumb So we'll get down to business on all the ways in which he is a big dumb dumb so we'll get down to business on all the ways in which he is

a big dumb dumb but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wongs. That's a great idea. So first Dan needs to do mystery Babylon like he promised. Oh no thank you so much you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I promise I would like to but that might have been a stray promise on my part. There's so many parts to it and Bill Cooper is unfortunately more boring than I thought back. Well, yeah. Next, keep up the great work from Nick in Devon, England. Thank you so much for an

out policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, after listening to hundreds of episodes of Knowledge Fight, officially heard Jordan misuse the word whenever over a thousand times that it's driving me crazy. If you know when the thing happened, just say when not whenever other than that, you and Dan are pure delight and please keep doing what you're doing. Thank you so much. You're not a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. I hate whenever people

do stuff like that. I am 100% on the Shakira whenever, wherever usage scale. And that is whenever and wherever huh now next thoughts and prayers but like thot yeah thoughts and prayer yeah as much about policy walk I'm a policy one thank you very much I still don't know what that means what that hoe over there is that what that means yeah oh shit that's not very nice at all that's an an offensive term. How do I know a slag? I don't know. I don't know. And Helter Stelter. Thank you so much. You're an out policy. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much. I was this close to naming the episode that yeah. Yeah. I mean,

it's it was to there. Yeah. And it was just broken with the tradition of the chatting with titles. Yep. So we got also got a technocrat in the mixture. And so thank you so much to Todd invites you to the Black Magic Party. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. And I'm going to say this right now, though I may have never followed through on my promise to do Mystery Babylon, I am now following through on my promise to have a new technocrat drop. I'm a policy wonk.

I don't like to hype things, but people are designed to hype. I am going to paint once a week on air, and I'm gonna let callers call in, but also take emails and request what you want to see me paint. One, two, three, Matt Damon! Matt Damon! There you go. It's party time. I'm gonna get in your guts, and the Nazis in my view were thugs that shook people down to a lot of really bad things But they did good things too. We're gonna stop dissing the Nazis all the time. Okay I'm thinking about doing some shows to where I run the whole thing myself just hit record and sit in the dark with just a few candles and candlelight and

Talk about the nature of the world universe. I mean, you know a big old juicy ribeye folks is as good as you know sex with your Wife and let's just get down to reality here. I'm going to go donkey Kong, King Kong crazy in about 45 days. America sucks for all races. It's over. It doesn't mean I want to go live, say in some places in Asia where you could off the plane over there, folks, they karate chop you. Thank you so much.

Oh, man, they karate chop you. Yep you so much. Oh man, they karate chop you. Yep. You never never see that coming. Never see it coming. Get off the plane. Oh, that was a great episode. That was a lot of fun. Yep. So I don't know, maybe I might need to tweak the pacing on that a little bit. I mean, it's a delay. It's long. It's fantastic. Yeah. So we're gonna get done business on this episode for Jordan before we do. Here's another context drop from today's show. Okay. Tucker Carlson wants all the big interviews. Got Kevin Spacey. I mean, I mean, that that's

what Tucker Carlson does. You got Alex Jones. Yeah, man. Big interviews. Oh, Alex Jones. Yeah, man. Pick interviews. Oh, Alex Jones. It just graced ask Kevin Spacey. And that is it is. I mean, it's beyond parody at this point. But boy, watching conservatives list celebrities that are also conservative is never not a little bit fun. Yeah, I know who we got blank. Oh, no. Can you believe he pulled a Kevin Spacey interview? Are you shitting me? That guy no one else will talk to. Oh, and he did his character from House of Cards. Oh, wow. What a great thing no one wanted.

Be able to stop doing that. So we start here, actually, with Alex responding to the breaking news. Yes, this interview had happened. Yes. And it turns out he's driving somewhere. That's when the news happened. And this is something that's happening now that Alex is back on Twitter.

Yeah. Is he's able to just record himself in his car and put it online. So here is Alex's first unfiltered while driving thoughts. All right. while driving thoughts. or three all the different sides we talking. This is amazing. So obviously tomorrow on my weekday show 11 a.m. 3 p.m. I'll be covering this, but it sounds from what Tucker said when he told me this is evident. So this is a big, big, big, big deal. And all the sensors are in absolute full and complete panic mode right now because they don't want the American people

who they keep in the dark have any idea what's really going on with free speeches what Americans all about it's our birthright so two hour Vladimir Putin Tucker Carlson interview about to drop fuck you new world order Take your censorship and go Fuck yourselves very impassioned How about that also could you walk the line here, sir? I was honestly like does his car have a breath of my son that he has to breathe

I was honestly like, does his car have a breathalyzer that he has to breathe in to before he can drive? I think he's just a little unenthused. But there is like, that's probable cause. He should really have a breathalyzer before he can start his car. Well, that would be tyranny. So, you know, there's excitement behind the unexcited delivery

that he's bringing to the table here. Yeah. I think just based upon hearing that, do you remember in the dark night whenever the Joker was like, let me show you what I can do with his pencil? Yeah, yeah. I bet that. Right. That is what William F. Buckley would do to Tucker Carlson. Right. Like, the fucking national review as conservative thought guy would stab you in the neck with a pen. Like it is insane to think.

I don't think he stabbed him in the neck, did he? No, no, I was, I'm moving on from that one. Oh, okay. Well, he certainly didn't have much love for, let's say, gold water. And some of the, you know, the ancestors of Alex's intellectual tradition, certainly did not like them too much. Not sure if

he'd go all Joker on them. But you never know. So we start Alex's actual show on the seventh year. And of course, Tucker is one of the big topics. It's Wednesday, February 7, 2024. I'm your host, Alex Jones. We are 271 days, 12 hours, 49 minutes, 18 seconds off the most important election in world history. The globalists are hurtling us towards full World War III. They're now calling for Tucker Carlson to be sanctioned by the European Union.

The neocons are calling for his arrest. This is all about the war, on the's all about the war on the press and the war on the people intensifying. So one EU lawmaker named Guy Verhoff stat tweeted about the possibility of Tucker getting an EU travel ban for engaging in propaganda on behalf of Putin. But that wasn't really something that went anywhere. The EU foreign policy chief Joseph Burrell told Barron's quote, currently there are no discussions in the relevant EU bodies linked to this specific person, referring to Tucker. Right. Right. Real talk though, he probably should have some sort of consequences for an act like this.

Yeah. It isn't just a little old journalist going and having a sincere interview with a controversial leader. There's nothing wrong with that kind of interview where the journalist is prepared to ask hard questions and make the most of the access that they've been granted. It's very clear from everything about Tucker and how he's handled his career that this is not what the interview is going to be. This is going to be Tucker very willingly being used by Putin to spread his message, which is not an interview, it's promotional. One of the early signs that this was the case was when before the interview dropped, Tucker took to Twitter to rationalize his actions. Tucker?

I'm sorry, sorry. I bet he'll convince me with this. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Tucker said that it was important to hear Putin's side and claimed that other Western journalists hadn't even tried to interview Putin. Sure. This was almost immediately rebuffed by Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov who said quote, he in fact cannot know this. We received many requests for interviews from the president, with the president, excuse me. Sure.

So why did Tucker try to pretend that no one else was even trying when in fact everyone was trying and Putin only decided to choose Tucker? It's because he wants to act like he's the only person doing real bold journalism and if he admitted the truth it becomes a whole lot harder to argue with the claim that this interview is being done for Kremlin propaganda and they've chosen you as the person most likely to spread

that propaganda in a positive light with no uncomfortable pushback. I was hand chosen to publicly lick the boots of a dictator and now all of you get to watch. Right. Have I triggered you with my journalism lives yeah it's easy to sit around and say the Tucker's being a useful idiot and all that but I don't really buy that no I don't think the Tucker is there because he's blinded by ambition or the drive to get a big scoop which which is just being exploited yeah I think he wants to do this yeah he likes Putin he loves Putin yeah audience loves Putin this has been true for a

long time Yeah, and as you know, it's free speech and freedom of the press But the EU doesn't operate the same way the US does and they're certainly much more directly affected by Putin's aggression So maybe they should do something. I have no faith that the US is gonna do anything Sean Hannity's show on Fox News just aired the Guardian Angels beating up a guy that they thought looked like an immigrant live on TV and there seems to be no consequences for that. So I'd just give up on accountability in the media in the United States. No, no, no, no, it exists. I know.

I feel like that is one of the most shocking things that's happened in a long time. The fact that Hannity's not like shit canned the next day. Oh, they don't care. But in a sane world, you're fired. I mean, I don't know. You're the fucking guardian angels. What is? I let them beat up a guy on TV.

Here's what I have to say about all of this. Yeah. All right. Every single person who said anything to me seven years ago should just be very quiet about the things that I say. But you said a lot of stupid things, too. I did. But I was right about the ones that mattered. I'm not sure which ones you mean now The ones where if you allow these people to go unchecked, ah, we're gonna get here and not like oh It's just gonna be like more of the same. Yeah, no there

We're gonna watch people beaten to death on live TV. Well, that's where we are now We're not watch people beaten to death on live TV. That's where we are now. Hooray! Thankfully we're not at the beaten to death part. Right! That's a thing you said! True. I think that this is one of the things that you can kind of sense is pretty potential

or likely outcome of the trends of things we've been going down. But it's always hard to make specific predictions in the way that things specifically play out always still feel a little shocking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that, yeah. It's like we did this, didn't we?

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Like, 15 years ago, when were the Guardian Angels around? Like the 80s? This is what I'm saying. The more I get into this, the more it's like, oh, this isn't a thing. This is just the ones that they stopped 60 years ago. They didn't stop them. They just went quiet for a while and now they're back like the herpes of America. And there's not they're not going to go away.

So Alex has Tucker on the mind, obviously, sure, but there's shit going on in his world that you may not believe and I say that because I don't believe it. Okay. And this is just a little side note but it gives you the climate the left here. We have leftists and I'm not going to give you the details of it. Finally constant fake police reports on me. And there's been all sorts of stuff that's going on. They've they've they've done things in a whole bunch of Texas counties, including Travis, where they hack into the database computers of courthouses and issue a rest warrants for me

from other states to Texas. So the next level of swatting for child rape and stuff like that. That's the kind of stuff that goes on. I'm not going to get into all of it, but I was going to be hosting the fourth hour today, but I'm not going to do it now. I have to deal with warrants? I have the police coming here so that I can brief them so they can go arrest these people, because they are absolutely sick of it.

And it's not just one group, but it's a bunch of them. And so, and I don't tell you about this stuff, I don't complain about it, it is non-stop. And I know the same kind of crap happens to Tucker. Can you imagine being Trump? I mean, it's 50 times that, 100 times. Probably about 100 times. I'm sorry, there are a lot of warrants out on Trump

This is almost impossible for me to believe this story that Alex is telling the level of hacking This would require is very unlikely to happen And this is really not the process things would follow if police were to come across an out-of-county warrant for Alex I mean something like mean. This is bullshit. I think there are enough people who just watch that shit that we would hear about an out of County warrant issued for Alex fucking Jones. There is a strong likelihood. Yeah.

I also think that, I just don't think this is how it would go. I think this is nonsense. But what fascinates me is imagining what this could actually be about. Yeah, I don't exclude the possibility There is some kind of legal trouble that Alex is in there are certainly a number of avenues that that could involve or this could Just be a fun story that he's come up with to amplify his own victim hood Sure Tucker just got this interview with Putin So Alex is gonna be in the doldrums for a while in terms of attention unless he gets some good juices going. The EU wants to ban Tucker.

Right. Obviously Alex needs some kind of persecution of his own. It's boring if he doesn't. He's not over the target unless there's consequences. Yeah, but I mean I just don't know what I mean. Okay, so the hacking thing sounds stupid, but that's it's totally a social engineering possibility somebody could call and be like well I forgot my pass you know that shit happens so so we do that but I mean what what warrant are you sending what could you be sending

out from the courthouse but Alice is also saying this keeps happening I know that's the crazier part that's the part that it that makes this into the realm of completely unbelievable yeah yeah unbelievable yeah, yeah, unbelievable. I agree. I think this may have happened once. The idea that it keeps happening. I even think it happening once is incredibly unlikely. Something that caused this incident to be lied about happened.

And I want to know what that is. Yes, yeah, me too. And we're not going to get any clarity on that. But apparently, there have been six police reports since yesterday at this time when Alex is on air. That's fun. I've been trying for two weeks and I'm behind. I'm a certain doing multiple ones a week, just with the Crowder show, because I had this whole Satanism special that I've been working on for like a

month. Pro or shot last week, try to shoot it yesterday. Couldn't do that because Six fake police reports filed yesterday But now one of the people doing it Their identity is known so they're gonna be getting Visit reportedly so But but this is this is all next level swatting ladies and gentlemen

next level harassment, and I'm a big boy. I can take it but That's how they take your time. It's how they take your energy It's why you gotta stay focused on God and focused on justice and just know that God's gonna carry us through this But can you imagine if we just roll over the new world order how bad it's gonna be? Can can you imagine seven police reports at all insane it would be because I don't let the enemy take my time anymore than I have to so I haven't really told the crew about this stuff I haven't even know that would take too much time I just turned says a lot of stuff going on as I've got arrows and stuff shooting past and God has put a defense shield up around us

but it's still not fun. So I'm gonna do the show here. Defense shield activate. I'm gonna do the show. Like a mode. I have to. Yeah, I don't buy any of this. No.

There is like just a preliminary smell test. This doesn't pass. Yeah. And then even even just thinking about it for a second, it's like you whine all the time. You would tell your staff about this. Absolutely. There's no way you would walk in the door screaming. I got hacked. Rob, dude, they're trying to get me totally 100%. Yes, I don't believe that. I got hacked. Rob, dude, they're trying to get me totally 100% as I don't believe that not even close. And the galaxy might have some legal trouble. That sounds right. So we get back to the discussion of Tucker. Sure. And you're not really allowed to disagree with him. Tucker or Tucker. Well, I mean both really. Yeah. But if you oppose Tucker, that's censorship, my man.

Interesting. We have the big Tucker Carlson report. And they're dropping the interview tomorrow at 7 o'clock central, 8 o'clock Eastern. Very smart to not sit on it and to get it out very, very quickly. It's very, very historic. We have the EU saying they want sanctions on him.

Some are calling for Tucker's arrest. Now this just shows you what criminals they are. They don't want you to be able to hear what you want to be able to listen to as an adult. When people censor, you're not just censoring the person that's being censored. You're censoring everybody's ability to ability make up their own mind. And I know everybody knows that, but do you really let that sink

in? Opposing what Tucker is doing is not censorship, at least not for most people in this instance. Vladimir Putin is leading an invasion of a neighboring sovereign country that has led to about half a million deaths deaths according to the New York Times From an estimate back in August, so it's gone up since then Whether Tucker likes to admit it or not deciding to interview a person like that within the context of an active war becomes a part of That war you may feel like you're not engaging in an aspect of the war, but Putin sure does There are responsible ways to interview people, even up to rogue

heads of state, but it's hard. Walking the line of understanding the seriousness of the situation and making the most of the access you have to this person, not missing the opportunity to ask hard questions other people can't, is very difficult journalism. What Tucker is doing is not that. He's used to interviewing Cat Turd, and the guy who claims he had sex with Obama. He's a shithead who wants to pal around more than he wants to do adversarial challenging interviews. When you do that kind of an interview with the head of state who's engaged in a war started by their own invasion of another country, you're effectively becoming part of the war effort, just from a propaganda standpoint. Criticizing this is not based

in censorship. Some of it could come from a much deeper place. That being said, Alex is trying to trot out his When You Take a Show Off Air, You're Censoring, The Audience Is Right to Hear Things line, which is a big point that he and his lawyers tried to make in the Sandy Hook Damages hearings. It failed to be persuasive there, and yet Alex continues deploying it, as if it makes any sense. Taken to its logical logical conclusion Alex should have zero complaints about public indecency if this is his position Yep, any attempt to stop these indecent acts like I don't know Steve oh stapling his balls to his leg I'm just attempt to take away your freedom to see things like Steve oh stapling his balls to his leg. Yep. Is this America? Yep. Yep. I feel like Alex has had a lot of complaints about things that have been aired

I imagine I feel like Alex has had a lot of complaints about things that have been aired. I imagine that, and I'm gonna throw this out there, if Fox suddenly was like, hey, guess what? 24-7 buttfucking! That's what we're doing! We're doing 24-7 buttfucking! That's our network now. See, I imagine people might be unhappy with it. I think that's across the line because you know airing Pornography on on public air sure is there's still FCC regulations about that sure

Let's turn this into a channel just being like we're gonna talk straight up about Satan all the time Yeah, I mean what whatever you would be the equivalent Sure get around the kind of legality regulation aspect whatever you want. Yeah, but this is dumb. It's very dumb. It's very dumb. Alex is, though, not thrilled by celebrities. We know this. But he's thrilled by Kevin Spacey doing an interview with Tucker.

I was going to say, he's a starfucker. Yeah, a little bit. But he's not in his own head. Well. So I'm telling you, I have zero. I've been best friends with Charlie Shane's zero pride You're knowing a bunch of famous Hollywood people effect. I'm ashamed of it pretty much. Wow, and I have no nothing thrills me Fishing with my family I mean a lot of stuff thrills me but nothing in the establishment thrills me no

Status no power nothing but freedom matters to me, but nothing in the establishment thrills me. No status, no power, nothing, but freedom matters to me. But I got to tell you, Tucker Carlson is a thoroughbred now. He's totally awake and he's a good friend and I am just very, very blessed to know him. So we're in the phase of the episode where Alex is just like really excited associating himself with Tucker. Yes. You know, and I think that's fun. Yes. It is, it is nice because for a narcissist, this is where they get to convince you that

they care about you as opposed to puffing you up in order to make their association with you even more important. Sure. And then it will twist. Exactly. At a certain point. It always does. And towards the end of this episode, I think Alex gets the other side of these feelings.

There we go. But for now, it's kind of like, I'm proud to be friends with him. I don't give a fuck about the establishment. Right, right, right. I want to be ride or die with cat turd. Yep. You know, these are the people who matter.

Man, we're just going to live like this till we die. Yep. It's good feelings right now, is like it so then part of that is because Tucker is able to save Alex's children apparently okay my well does he have them is my children and the future and people like Tucker Carlson have the best chance of saving me and my children so Tucker Carlson is mine he belongs saving me and my children. So Tucker Carlson is mine. He belongs to me and he belongs to you. You understand that? Happens quicker. Yeah.

Because they know we're good. We're decent. We're not perfect, but damn it, we're not out to hurt people and we believe in humanity. I played this clip 15 times probably. I want to play it again. Pull up. There will be blood, the clip where the oil man explains to his cousin, he learns this and his cousin kills him later, that he has a competition in him. Spoilers. He doesn't like to see other people do well, including their families. I don't like other people to have milkshakes. He doesn't like to see other people do well. What a great description. There will

be blood. He doesn't like to see other people do well. He's like the globalist that way. That always reminds me of my favorite Paul if Topkins story about that because he was he was in there will be blood right on the other side and he's just like a lot of people think he's a very intense person and he's not he's not very intense at all he's the most intense person who has ever lived yeah yeah fucking day Lewis Daniel day Lewis so doesn't like to see other people do well. Yeah. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. It's been a while since I've seen that movie. What?

I mean, there was a couple other takeaways that I had. I think watching a beat of man to death with a bowling pin? Didn't want to see him do well. Didn't want to see him do well. Yeah. See, if Tucker is mine. Yeah, that hit fast. I do like how he had to be like he's yours.

I got a course correct this. It might be a little too weird. Tucker might hear this. So after the clip, he comes back and you know this this idea of the globalists are like Nathaniel Longview. Right. His name Nathaniel. Nathaniel. Plainview. Plainview.

Yeah. The globalists are like him because they don't want to see people do well. And that's why they kill us. Sure. With vaccines. All right. They want us dead. That's not hyperbole. That's not hype. That's real. They want you dead. Dead. Dead. Dead. I have a stack of mainstream news and

New major scientific studies that it's over 20 million dead from the shots and cancer is the highest ever recorded shooting straight up Straight up the young people are all having heart attacks. They're all getting cancer now We don't know what's happening. They got billboards and TV shows and public service announcements about it happening. And they got billboards and TV shows and public service announcements about it. Yeah. And people tune in. You'll blend back years ago. He goes, I tune into that Alex Jones and he's scary. Buddy, I ain't scary. I'm just the light pointing at what's scary. I'm just the mirror holding up the society.

I am the light pointing at what's scary. Flashlight. Yeah. So that stuff isn't true. Cancer rates in the US are fairly steady as a whole over the past years, but they're way down from the early 90s, and so are death rates from cancer.

One area that is of particular concern is data has come out showing that the number of people around the world under 50 who get cancer has gone up 80% in the last 30 years. This is worrying and researchers have a number of explanations for it involving increased rates of obesity and alcohol and tobacco use. What no one thinks is the COVID vaccine started killing people in the 90s, but I guess that's Alex's idea. No, no, no. It's more like being alive in American society causes cancer a lot faster than most people. Well, and one thing that people have pointed out in some of the articles that I was reading was that

as we've become better able to treat many cancers, people have taken prevention a little bit less seriously. And that can be a part of the dynamic. Sure. I think it's probably a constellation of different Causes that are affecting for sure. So this 20 million dead from COVID vaccine number It's something that's been floating around since at least 2022. It was wrong then and it's still wrong by October 2023 the epic times had found a slightly new version of bad math and they reported that it was 17 million dead Which should have been great news for the conspiracy I was gonna say three million less had found a slightly new version of bad math and they reported that it was 17 million dead,

which should have been great news for the conspiracy crowd. I was going to say. 3 million less dead. I was going to say, that's exciting. That's the numbers have been revised downward, we're on a better trend. But now I guess Alex has a back of 20 million. Can't imagine what dumb substack he's getting that from. But you see there, there's something that's so fascinating about him in this dynamic of

like, I've got a stack of mainstream media articles and studies. Yeah. You decry education to the mainstream media all the time. You need their credibility in these subtle ways. That's it. It's not even something that his audience is thinking about. Yeah. But Alex says that because he knows if you just like some dumb shit wrote this on his blog, they wouldn't take it seriously. Even Alex's audience would be like, uh, I don't know. But now these other, these other outlets that I fucking hate and print nothing but trash, they have standards.

So I'll take that seriously. Yeah, that is, that is such an interesting point because if you like step back and take a look at what kind of all that really means is that somehow people who do not trust doctors trust doctors you know it's like I will not trust doctors but I won't believe something unless a doctor has approved it yeah which is well it's because they don't actually have that distrust they have the air of that distrust or whatever They have the brand of that distrust that's been sold to them by people like Alex.

Yeah. But you know when the rubber meets the road and you're in the foxhole, there is no, not that there is none, but there are many less. I mean, it's also kind of, and it's one of the things that is, like it's one of those like if you want to stop the fake problem, you kind of have to deal with the real problem. And that is, when you have a such a two tiered or multi tiered healthcare system, then it's a reasonable thought to go, well, I don't want that doctor, I want the good shit. Because there is the good shit.

Well, in some cases there is, in some cases there is. No, no, no, totally. That's part of the problem. But the totality of our viewpoint towards medicine is that there's somebody who's getting the good shit. There's always a rich person who's getting better. The secret life extension technology is, Alex, is clean vaccines and... Why didn't Magic Johnson live all of those things?

It's fertile ground to be exploited. Yeah. And if you don't want people to go like, oh, well, we can't trust that doctor, we should go to a better one. You kind of have to make it. Yeah, it's not going to solve the problem itself, but it would contribute quite a bit to taking away some of the influences. Yeah. So look, we've got some really serious stuff going on. Yeah. And so Alex keeps it serious.

Of course. By complaining about a women's swat team. Ah, well, I'm sorry. I saw this a couple of days ago. There was so much news I didn't get to it. But you know, it really is important because when I posted this on or I linked to it on my X account, it already had like 15 million views. It got a couple more million views.

Damn. And I noticed the left was in there defending it saying you're bigoted, Mr. Jones, against women because you're making fun of this. You're a bigoted one, Mr. Jones. It'd be like seeing a man can have a baby. Junior, Arnold did it. It's just, it's ridiculous. Done.

Next. So footage from Dubai shows women from Chile's highest tier police task force attempting to complete in the 2024 UAE SWAT challenge, where they're embarrassingly struggled to complete the first obstacle alone and couldn't do it. OK. Now. There are similar obstacle courses that,

you know, you can go pay to go on it. I'm not great shape myself, but I can complete these courses go go now. Now, right now, I will get a camera. I will pay any amount of money. Let's go ribs or something. Now, but in the car, now I mean I still hike 15 miles 20 miles let's go do that then you know now only good at the type of stuff SWAT teams do and but but watching the women compared to the men was like watching a BB gun versus a 50 caliber rifle and Hollywood puts out all these movies and this culture where always the toughest person's a woman, she could beat up 20 men,

and the women are all in charge. And all that is to do, all that's designed to do is break down civilization and society. It is. It's not to empower women. It is to break up the family. The whole thing.

It is to confuse roles. It is to make women think they can have these type of careers so that they don't go out and have a family and so that they'll be part of the system. Then it sabotages the human system and they can bring in AI and robots to replace the post-industrial collapsed human society. That's their official plan. Oh, that took a turn. I What I find so fascinating about that is that that last turn is Interesting because it is more like a just bizarro version of the re out of the real plan You know, like it's not

Of his real like society, you know, like Everybody has roles. Women are specific to do this only. All of these things. And the idea of women having any agency at all is a disruption completely to his society, you know? And it is like you can wrap it up in, oh, they're trying to kill everybody and destroy the family or anything.

But in reality, what he's actually saying is just straight up, women are subjugated to me. And the threat, like, you know, it's being embodied here as like AI taking over and destroying the world is like almost an expression of the existential threat to his worldview that autonomy has. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Women doing whatever they feel that they want to do is a threat.

It is reasonable for him to view it as a threat because it is a threat to his existential point. But I mean, his existential thing shouldn't exist. So, you know, that's on him. He could just change his mind. It could. So the UAE recently held the SWAT challenge for 2024. And one of the categories is a female SWAT team challenge.

I'm sorry. The United Arab Emirates. Yeah. Invited the female SWAT team challenge thing. Well, there's also men. They all agreed to tower challenges. Sure. Sure. Sure. And then and then they all were like, this is a good idea. It did not seem like every country had a representative, but there were a fair number. So the Chilean team had a rough start on their run

on day three, which started with everyone having to get across a zipline over water. They botched that and didn't have enough momentum to get across, and a video that made the rounds on the predictable right-wing social media accounts, particularly ones that are obsessed with rigid ideas about gender. And those are those are so embarrassing. I watched somebody

get stuck on a zipline. It hurts. It sucks. So I went and I watched some more of the event and it's glaring how cherry pick this is. Yeah, the teams from Abu Dhabi and Thailand are great on the course. So one wonders why these people didn't include them in the conversation. The reality of this is that there's a competition and some teams were good and some were less good.

Interesting. It serves the interest of folks like Libs of TikTok, who are one of the accounts who posted this, to show only the women doing poorly, because this reinforces the idea that they have about gender roles. Being on a SWAT team is a traditionally masculine role in their mind, so they need to present evidence that makes it appear that women cannot do that stuff. They just aren't meant to,

it's nature. If they presented the Chilean team in context, which is to say that they had a bad run, but the other teams in the competition were great, then this can't really be used for their propaganda. You need to give the impression that all of the competition was just inept, because that comports to your worldview, whereas reality doesn't. In order to serve your ultimate propaganda goals, it's necessary to present a distorted version of the real world and insist that you're the only one showing the truth. It's a pathetic charade, and I guess Alex saw someone posting this on social media, and he wasn't curious at all about what else is going on in this competition.

Alex wasn't curious curious because the propaganda narrative that this clip was presented in comports to his views as well. He sees something that affirms a position he has, so it doesn't matter if it depicts reality. Alex has no interest in the second step, past seeing a meme to determine if there's more context because that would ruin the misogynist's fun for him. Yeah.

That's a good way to spend your time. Yeah. Good episode. I always, you know, there are those posts, always like a good post where it's like a picture of a dog doing something and then it's like, thousands of years ago, hey, I'll just go hang out with this human. What's the worst that could happen? And then the dogs are subjugated, you know, like that. Right. Man, slave catchers turned into SWAT team people at the United Arab Emirates. That's a surprise.

Yeah. That is a fucking evolution. I'll tell you that. Some of the stuff is pretty impressive though. I believe it. In terms of getting over obstacles and... No, I'm not, I mean, I'm not saying... ...sharp shooting.

Hey, listen. I mean, in practice, it's kind of scary how efficient some of the folks are, but... I mean, the problem that I have with it is that none of that shit should exist period and yet somehow people are turning it into a misogynistic problem as opposed to a none of that shit should exist problem That is an interesting take. I mean, I think I think that Arab Emirates should Like let's go way back. Well, let's put a pin in that. Sure, sure, sure.

And there is an interesting element that Alex should probably be more scared of the police state implications of this than he should be about with a begin a SWAT team. Are you kidding me? SWAT teams are traveling from around the world to share. Shouldn't you be mad that they're even chilling? Isn't this whole thing like the militarization of police is evil and all that? Totally. I guess not. Shouldn't you be mad that there are even his whole thing like the militarization of police is evil and all that totally I guess

Not that the United Arab Emirates are hosting cops Maybe to share information with other cops. I don't know they're sharing information. They're competing. Yeah, well, that's I think they have a form of sharing information. I think they have a vested interest in not sharing Let me tell you something I've watched a lot of anime fighting is sharing information. Let me tell you something. I've watched a lot of anime. Fighting is sharing information. It's true. You get XP. So Alex talks about this for a long time. I believe that. And at one point he does even get into playing Yackety Sax over it. Well, that's just great. Or maybe it could be a Hill theme or is it the same thing? It is the same thing. Yeah. He plays that over them hanging on the zip line. It's poorly placed here, but Alex talks about forever. So I'm going to roll you some of the footage here. And it shows the women probably charging

out and then getting the first obstacle, which one woman made it through the first a Laurel and Hardy or three stooge is episode. I mean, help just to see it for yourself. For radio listeners, I'll give you play by play. Vamos. Here come the women charging up five ladies already off to bad state involved Here come the women charging up. Five ladies teams. Already off to a bad start. Involved. In the UE SWAT Challenge this year.

And they grabbed the little trolley. Belarus. Zip lines. Thailand, Chile. Two teams from the Emirates. And one of them makes it across. Ohhhh! Ohhhh! And the others fall in the water. The first one to get wet in the ice bath today.

And this goes on and on. And, well, they are stuck in the middle of that zipline. So the leader goes back and trying to save them. That's how it works! Are you mad about that? They're gonna zip line and do it again and currently, Chile have three team members stranded. They don't even know how to rock their body and move forward with their hands. Of that ice bath. Thankfully the water will be a little bit warmer than it was this morning. I did this a few years ago my kids. My fat ass can do this.

I'll shore the next day. Just goes to show you how important momentum is. It's true. Oh, oh! Three team members in the drink. So, so? And then all up in the drink. It's all going horribly wrong.

And, um... Well, she's got some nice childbearing hips though. Jesus, man. I swear to God. I swear to God. Somebody hit him with a baseball bat fucking hell yeah fucking hell whoo yeah pretty gross wow and that's not play-by-play he said he was doing play-by-play that's color yep that's sure that's no good it's disgusting color so like Stacey King would not be happy with that yes I. I feel like, um, that was maybe arguably long. I would say so. Yeah.

As a clip to play, but I want to stress, like he's playing a long bit of this. He goes on. This is, I mean, honestly, it is kind of amazing that this is a thing. I understand the internet and how- You mean the competition or Alex doing this? No, no, no, no, no, the whole right wing is doing this thing. Like, I understand how the internet works and people do this, but I mean, man, if you wanna watch anybody of any gender fail at anything,

it's there. Sure, go watch a hole in the wall. I mean, yeah, it's like, I can't imagine watching anyone fail at a competition and being like, well, this means something. I've watched so many people fall into water because they bounced off something. Some things are fucking hard.

It's what it is. And like, this zipline is not at an angle that would be conducive. You have to really push yourself. Yeah. It seems like something that could be failed Although the other teams do it fine. There is no Conclusion to draw from any of these competition reality shows or things like this or anything other than wow

That person is good at a very specific thing to do sure or wow that person is not good at a very specific Great at getting in a hole in a wall. No other Qualifications or things learned right yeah, but we should probably talk about this some more. Yeah, probably how about the women just identify that they won the The games just say we identify as the first place winners I just give them of course you watch the film of the man. We should probably pull that up a sauce moment They're just charging through it like it's nothing But you want to see him fell some more you want this just to keep going on? So they finally just give up So that's the false reality they want us to sit here and believe in

It's sorry inferior the other side that women can go down ziplines is the false reality. They're not designed for it They're not designed for ziplines women in a certain percentage point at the top that are incredible and can compete with some men Yes But that is a very very small percentage of women and then they can't compete against the best men Wow They can just compete against mediocre men Okay, okay. Ah Yep, the best women can compete against mediocre man Congratulations fine fine Ah! Yep. The best women can compete against mediocre men. Congratulations! Fine! Fine!

Oof. So why won't Alex talk about the other teams that kick that course's ass? I would like to know that. Maybe it's because it runs counter to his argument about gender norms being absolute. Maybe because he just saw some shithead post this on social media and then never even considered watching any more of it to learn more. That does sound right. In that clip, he does some untrue things, though.

He says some untrue things. For one, the men's competition was on a different course. And Alex didn't watch any of that. Fair. Second, the Chilean women's team doesn't give up. They keep trying, and they eventually get across the zipline. And they finish out the competition. They lost, but they did what every coach says

is the most important thing. They didn't give up. And there's something to be proud of about that. They're Jamaican Bobsled team. Absolutely. Yep. And again, the existence and performance of the other women's teams in this. It really destroys the argument that Alex is making. Even if he were aware of the full picture, he would just still pretend that those other teams don't exist because that's a critical part of upholding this misogynist worldview. You have to point at this failure as being

indicative of all the teams. You need that illusion in order to prop up your reality. It's disgraceful. Yeah, it does like the reaction to this, the whole thing like every part of this makes me feel like either I am a complete and utter insane person because That they are women period is so far down my list of things that I think about whatever you tell me that there's a Swamp team competition It's not even like that stuff. It's just like that's not what I would think of That's so crazy to me that your first thought watching that is not even. It doesn't even rank. It's not even on the list of between their legs.

That's what you thought. That's what you thought. Mm hmm. And see. Yeah. But amen. That was the way it was presented on social media. And that's where Alex gets all of his information from.

And that's what he is. He's just after show for dumb shitheads on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. So we get back to less important issues like Tucker. I don't know what to do with this world. I don't either. Yeah. Tucker Carlson now in Ukraine's kill list for interviewing Putin.

Europe's European ally. I'm sorry. Biden has sent hundreds of millions of dollars to us openly, targeting the lives of American citizens for simply asking questions. Well, yeah, that's what the Democrats want to do here. Peter Carlson has now included on Ukraine's kill list a response to interviewing Russian President Vladimir Putin that airs tomorrow night at 7 o'clock central. And by the way, I'm just gonna announce this now. I'm doing a special

Emergency broadcast Tucker wants this free into the world so as soon as the interview goes live tomorrow night at 7 central 8 Eastern We will air the interview and then we will have commentary after so I'll go live at 6 30 tomorrow night, right after the war room. And then I will give some commentary.

I will stream it out on our network and our system. We will air the Putin interview. And then we will take questions and comments afterwards, because this is historic. And Tucker Carlson's risk is life. The kill list is believed to be the product of the Ukraine Center for countering this information appears to have added Carlson.

Tuesday shortly after he confirmed securing interview with Putin. Sure. What pro democracy folks they are. The Ukraine kill list was created by president Zelensky himself with the backing of the American CIA and NATO itself So I'm sure that Tucker is really excited about the idea of Alex trying to funnel off some of the views from his video Oh, yeah, in fairness it probably won't make that much of a difference

But if I were Tucker, I would be pissed. I would not like this kind of behavior Another thing I wouldn't be too happy about is being added to a kill list The good news is that Alex is just making up most of that. The reality is that Tucker was added to the Murotkovits list, which is a list of enemies of Ukraine. It's not run by the government, Zelensky didn't start it, and it's not a kill list. It is very possible to have concerns about the list and the site itself and the way that they do publish personal data of some of the people that they list.

But with Alex, in his complaints, what he's doing here is a farce. Yeah. This is a great example of a time that Alex could actually stake a position that rational people might agree with him on. But he can't deal with reality without adding layers of sensationalism onto it. Alex doesn't want to deal with valid criticism of this, of this site as it exists because that's hard. There's a lot of detail to it and you have to be specific

about your points which then people can disagree with. It's so much easier to just yell that Zelensky started a kill list and Tucker's on it now. Your work is done there and since the root of this tree is so disconnected from reality, it doesn't matter where the branches grow. Nothing's real here. I wonder, I ask the question,

is Himmler an enemy combatant Heinrich Himmler, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah sure, okay. Well, then yeah, it's fine if Ukraine kills Tucker well Look I Um, look, I don't, I don't want to get into the weeds of what Ukraine can and can't do in the context of war. I mean, I'm more interested in the specific claim that Alex made, right? And he's wrong.

That I agree with. Okay. But it would be fine. Now you can have a flight of fancy. It would be fine if he was. Okay. Like it shouldn't. I mean, yeah, if you get into a war, you shouldn't be unhappy if people are like, well, we're

going to kill you now. you get into a war, you shouldn't be unhappy if people are like, well, we're gonna kill you now. You're in a war. And if you talk to Putin and then put it out for the world to see, then you have just entered the war as Putin's propaganda director. I would say that I am against war in general as a whole. But we do have to accept the reality that it does exist.

And it does exist currently in Ukraine and Russia, for sure. Tucker, for whatever he wants to pretend he's doing, is taking a step into that by interviewing the head of state of the aggressive belligerent party in a way that is not journalistic. Now granted, we haven't seen it. So, you know, it's hard to make specific, uh, like, critiques of what he does and doesn't do. Sure.

But it would be ludicrous to not look at his MO, look at his history, the way he's conducted interviews in the past and think that he's going to do a like a real frost Nixon type fuck out of here adversarial debate interview if he did we wouldn't see it anything that comes out with Putin in it is under control wouldn't agree to do it if it wasn't very well understood that's why he's not accepting all the requests from other media outlets and if he didn, and if he didn't like the results, it wouldn't have been released.

Right. That's, it's that simple. He has final edit. Absolutely, it's that simple. Yeah. So again, that is entering the war. I don't think there's any other way of putting it. In some sense.

I'm not gonna join the war. In some sense, you could say that it's inserting yourself into a far different world than you have any business being in. I mean, I don't know. If I'm taking a job from Hitler, I'm gonna have to assume that I'm in the war if we're in the middle of a war.

If Hitler offers me a job, I say, guess what? No, thank you. I don't wanna be part of the war. Or I say, now I am part of the war. That's the war part, right? When the head of the war starts a war and then you take a job for that person, then you're in the war. Yeah, I think I think that there are some distinctions between taking a job that runs consistently and doing a job. You know what I mean? I do think there's some distinctions

during a war. It's messy. It's messy. I don't know. It's I don't I don't think that it's enough to like make him a full on combatant or something like that. Sure. Sure. Sure. But I do I do think that he's entered an arena that is not just like dumb shithead propaganda journalism to a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. If, listen, I doubt Ukraine, again,

he's not on a Ukrainian list. No. Right. But if he is. But it's not a kill list. Sure, sure, sure. Or like an official, the president made this list. You know, he's not an enemy of the state

according to the state. I'm sure Zelensky's not thrilled with him. Totally not. But if, like, you know, so they're not going to care. You know, they're not like going after him or anything But if a drone strike hits Tucker Carlson's house, they wouldn't be mad about it And I would be like well, then you shouldn't have interviewed Putin. It's that simple. Uh Sure, yeah, whatever. Yeah, I don't I mean like it's we're so past the point of like it being a

Yeah, he actually did it so who fucking fucking knows man. Yeah, it's on him. Whatever happens is on him not on me It's messy. Yeah, so Putin is gonna talk to Tucker right he's gonna get into some Conspiracy shit obviously. Yeah, obviously. I want to talk about what you can really expect in this Tucker interview. It's got them so scared so get the clip of Putin please a Year and a half ago saying he's been warning the world about us creating biological weapons in Ukraine and other areas And of course that's come out that is true

Victoria Newland who really is the president of the dictatorship there? So it is the penis piano player, Zelensky. And she came out from Congress and admitted, yeah, we have bio weapon labs there months after they denied it. So how would you like it if Russia was in Canada building bio weapon labs? Again, I'm just saying. Here's Putin. So, yeah, no shit, Putin's gonna talk to Tucker about the bio weapon lab bullshit.

The goal is to spread his false justifications for invading Ukraine to a wide audience through the conduit of a useful or collaborating interviewer. Tucker was a huge part of spreading that false talking point in the United States, which is a huge part of why Putin chose to talk to Tucker and not somebody who would push back on this shit. There weren't bio-weapon labs in Ukraine and Victoria, Newland isn't the dictator of Ukraine. We've been over this a bunch, so I'll save getting back into it for Tucker's actual interview, but the point is, of course this is something that's gonna come up. The goal of the interview is to sway Tucker's audience to the idea that Putin is the good

guy in the war. That's his consistent position on air, Tucker's, as well as Alex's, and a bunch of their other right wing buddies. The thing I just can't take is that these folks are so clearly deeply in support of Putin, but won't just come out and say it because they know that staking that position openly could be risky. They have to hedge all their positions and constantly arguing for why they support Putin, but then saying that they don't support either side. It would be like me constantly saying two plus two, and then you being like, oh, you mean four? And me being like, oh, no, no, no, not four, but what about three plus one? And then you naturally say, you're talking about four. And I would act

all shocked and say, can a guy not say eight divided by two? It's an annoying game that these fucks play. And I wish they'd just come out and be honest about their position Yeah, they won't though because they know deep down that Putin is a really bad dude And they want plausible deniability in case they ever get called to the carpet for for supporting him They want the benefits of this position and you know what you can get from it, but they want to dodge any kind of risk Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that is that is kind of that is the point. That is the point of euphemism entirely and why our society is fucking stupid about it is insane. I don't get it. Like you can say the exact same thing. Ah, but I didn't say it with those words. So no accountability for me. And I'm not even

sure what kind of direct accountability there is at the present time or even maybe in the future to being like I Support Putin. Yeah, I don't know what there is. I don't think there is that much of a consequence outside of stigma and people looking at you as It's genuinely Cold War shit I think I think it really is like if we say that we're 100% pro-russia Then we are negating all of our Cold War bullshit. It might be, but the reality of the positions that they put forth, and Alex is like very clear about,

is that the United States has been captured by these demonic globalist entities that aren't the United States, and he supports the Russia over the United States. Right. But I heard love it or leave it for the first 20 years of my fucking life. So well, you know, yeah These people are I know I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you that right now

That might be a different breed of right wing than Alex though I'm not sure. Well, very straightforward in their thinking true But I think a lot of those love it or leave it types where you're talking about people who are like if you don't Support the Iraq war and stuff and maybe Alex would have had a more slightly different position back then. Maybe. But were it happening now? Love it or leave it. Trump was the president. He was for Iraq war. Absolutely. Man. Yeah. Anyway, look, the media. Yeah. The media. What about the media? What did they do this time? They are not congratulating Tucker. But just for sure they're not. It's in him for a second. That we are so used to turning now that where is the media?

We're a journalist standing up for their own profession, saying this is a long tradition and this is a good thing he's done, regardless. We should hear from all sides. Remember Osama bin Laden at 9 11 they played all the videos of him talking about why he did it. Of course he was really CIA putting out propaganda. There we go. Wasn't really happened if you know the whole story.

But what the whole story? Everybody goes interviews Saddam Hussein, I told the Homanie. Hitler was interviewed during World War Two. By Joe Hitler speeches and newsreels at the movie theaters. People wanted to have Americans like here's what Hitler's saying well that's all we got to hear what the other side when you're not allowed to go to the other side saying you got a big problem and you can point at Russian say they've got some

controls and censorship too but the West is far surpass that now and can't point their finger at Russia and say oh look you look, you know, you, you're the bad guys. I think that if somebody who is deeply sympathetic to Hitler or bin Laden did an interview that was clearly meant to ingratiate him to their audience, people would have a problem with that. There's no deficiency of hearing what Putin saying. You can find his speeches and plenty of declarations he's made.

So it's no secret what he's about. It's abundantly clear from Tucker's career as well as his past interviews That he's not interested in finding out more about Putin's position from a journalistic perspective He's there to give Putin a non-threatening platform to push his narratives to Tucker's audience That's his role and he knows it and Alex even knows it There's some shameful Justification stuff going on here and Alex can't even get through without recognizing that the press isn't free in Russia Yeah, he can't even he can't even finish his sentence without having to like okay not as bad as here though

I mean yeah the idea like The history of the world war two is in American myth great But I mean at the end of the day everybody wasn't super on board until the first Concentration camp pictures and shit came out. Then everybody was like, fuck, this has gotta stop. And journalists were deliberately keeping that information, or no, I mean, Hitler was deliberately leaking information to journalists that was not that,

for that purpose. Like if you interviewed Hitler, you could not get a adversarial interview where he's like, well, obviously we have the concentration camps. Whoops. That's yeah. Yeah. That's my point. I'm making it very poorly, but you understand what I'm trying to say. Yeah, you wouldn't, you wouldn't get, uh, but even still there is, there is like a version of an interview that I could see being, you know, a responsible thing. Hitler's pretty extreme example. You can't get, you know, a responsible thing. There's a pretty extreme example.

You can't get, I mean, listen, at a certain point, there are extreme outliers that we all go, let's not apply this to other scenarios. Here's where we are right now. Fuck Putin. Then we'll move on to the next one. Because here's the situation that you really have to wrestle with if you're in the position of being a journalist in this spot. Sure. You have to ask yourself, what do I get out of this? Not just personally, but what is learned by this? What is gained by this in terms of reporting?

Sure. What am I possibly going to be able to learn? What kind of questions need to be asked? That kind of thing. Secondarily, you have to ask, why is this person doing an interview with me? What do they get out of it? What is their agenda in doing this interview? And if you can't really answer the first question and the other one is a question you don't want to ask, you shouldn't do that interview.

See, I find that fascinating because I do think those are great points. I agree, it just never occurred to me. What? Because to me, once you go into war space, then the only two things matter, making the war longer and killing more people. Like, that to me is, does this make the war shorter

or does it kill fewer people? Those are my choices once I enter war. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So if you are giving him an interview, to me there's no area of Tucker giving Putin an interview that doesn't ultimately wind up in longer war and more dead. I agree with you in the real world,

but in Tucker world, their kind of understanding of things is the only way for the war to end is for Ukraine to submit and stop fighting back. So from Tucker's viewpoint, if you're applying your standard, nothing that he's doing is lengthening the war. I would, I would. You know what I mean? I don't think he's correct, but from his vantage point,

you can easily see that being like, oh no, I'm actually trying to shorten the war by getting the word out about this noble person's purpose. I suppose you could believe that. I think it would be hard, but I think it could. I mean, hey, if you have been paid millions upon millions of dollars, I find that you get, it's a lot easier to believe all kinds of stuff.

If you're someone who's excited to interview Cat Turd, Yeah, I've seen people who get paid millions of dollars. I find that you get it's a lot easier to believe all kinds of stuff. If you're someone who's excited to interview Cat Turd. Yeah, I've seen people who get paid millions of dollars believe all kinds of crazy things. Sure. Yeah. Speaking of someone who believes some crazy stuff, Alex has a guest. Well, she's a great talk show host and filmmaker and a guest on my show many times years ago and we've been working with her some now on Documentaries and more very very exciting lady and she was coming into town to talk to us about filmmaking I said why don't you just come on the show and so she was here yesterday But then I had an emergency come up and I had to leave in the fourth hour I was she stayed over even though she was flying out last night to be with us

She's at Lauren whiskey DE on X as well. And it's great to be here with you. Thank you so much for having me. It's a complete honor. Well, it's an honor to have you. I've never met you in person till yesterday. Oh, wow. She ran for Congress unsuccessfully. How did it go? Unsuccessful. And she's an interesting, fun choice for Alex to have as a guest on today. She has a past in promoting QAnon. Sure. She's a quote self-proclaimed flat earther, according to the New York Times. All right. And a Putin supporter.

A big time Putin supporter. Good. So she'll fit right in. Good, good guest for today. Hmm, good stuff. Man, Putin support and a flat earther? That means I could push them both off the edge. It's true.

That'd be fun. Unfortunately, to do that, they would have to be right. Yeah. And then you have to call into question a bunch of shit. If I get to do that, I will give up all my beliefs. I think you'd have to go ground up. You have to rewrite a lot of stuff. I think I'd be fine with that.

I'll make that sacrifice. So Tucker. Yeah. Used to work at Fox News, you know that? I have heard that in the past. You know why you got fired? No. He was getting too close to the truth. That sounds true.

You know, remember when they kicked Tucker off of Fox News in the first place? It was because of his coverage of the Ukraine war. He was getting too close. And they spied on him. They ended up cacking into his phone, reading his text messages, reporting him. The one thing that they did not want to happen was this interview.

And that's because Putin knows where all the bodies are buried. He knows about the... He's burying them! ...their husband's labs. He knows about the truth about the war. He's the burry bodyer! While Zelinski's been busy doing his rounds for Vogue Magazine, begging for money, Putin has practiced extreme restraint during this war.

And that's something that I think people are going to learn with this Tucker interview tonight. Very well said. Very well said. The Barry Bodier is Violet Beauregard. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.

No problem. So she had a fun story there. I guess we're just going to ignore the part where Tucker was part of a lawsuit from Dominion the Kostvox 787 million dollars No, I'm sure they fired him because he was getting too close to uncovering the truth that Putin is pretty cool Well according to some people they fired him just because he was so much of an asshole I'm sure that also plays a role, but seven hundred seventy eight

Seven hundred eighty seven million dollars ain't nothing to sneeze. Yeah, that's true So Lauren gets it though She understands the Tucker's interview is gonna be a puff piece meant to sway people to support Putin She already supports Putin though. So it's a good thing as far as she's concerned. Yeah, but but yeah She knows where the body is buried all that go fuck yourself. Yeah, fuck out of here Yeah, I am I am always shocked at how many people will be will find a way to convince themselves that it's all right To go to somebody else's house and murder them, you know As long as it's the United States doing that, you know or or

To destroy Tucker Carlson's house. It's amazing. No, it is it is kind of yeah, but I'm not going I'm not gonna hop a flight See that's the difference. This her perspective is is fun. Yeah, in a novel. It's not connected to reality, but it's fun in the in terms of making a brash noir story about a brave reporter. All this stuff. She did leave out all the calling his boss the C word and such. She did leave that out. That was suspicious. There's some stuff that's on the kind of report. He saw his text messages where he called his boss the C word a lot. Huh. Oh and weren't those text messages because of the lawsuit? It could be because of the

lawsuit that they got his text message. It's almost like he had to give them text message He wasn't being spied on. No man. He was too close to the truth. That sounds true now Tucker He ended up losing his job with Fox News because he was covering the war so fairly and The freak out Russia and gets the interview himself because we're fair and balance but not that interview himself because we're fair and balanced but not that propaganda not that bad we get whatever the regime the military industrial complex wants us to know and it's a shame because we basically have government ran media we don't get to know the truth

but Tucker going directly to Putin someone who empowered the church a government country he brought the church up right next to him and empowered christians in his country and he's a lindske's family orthodox church yes and then so lindske on the other hand is russian orthodox train or not heavily aligned with russia into russia maybe not really good at all i don't know

it's very evident while lindske has a transgender spokesperson lecturing us on the evils of Putin. Putin is calling America, like calling out America for, well, never when he called us, I think, the great Satan or something, we were, he was talking about. That's the Iranians. What he said was, the American people have a elite bombarding of anti-family evil. Yes.

They're trying to destroy their family. Yes. Yeah. And he said basically that the United States is run by pedophiles, which is true. Yes. And it's true. These people just support Putin. They just want a leader like Putin. It's not that complicated. Just say you don't like that people talk a lot here. Right. You don't like that people are different than me. So you can be opposed to Zelensky's actions in relations to the Russian

Orthodox Church without then supporting Putin. Sure. It is very possible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you can be opposed to Zelensky's actions in relations to the Russian Orthodox Church without then supporting Putin. Sure. It is very possible. Yeah. Also, if this is something that's so important to these people, then they should really take issue with Putin's oppression of people's religious beliefs. Like how Russian courts banned Jehovah's Witnesses in 2017, or how the state oppresses indigenous religions pretty consistently. Oh, what? The US Commission on International Religious Freedoms report from 2021 listed Russia as a country of particular concern, which noted that even quote, Protestant Christians are frequently fined for illegal missionary activity. Yeah, these people don't care about religious freedom. What they care

about is that they get the feeling that Putin wants to oppress the same people as them. And they like that he's made religion part of his brand They could give a shit about who or who doesn't oppress religious minorities It's just a good thing to including your rationale for why you like the big strong man It's kind of a veneer of respectability that's added over your lust for oppressing the people you want oppressed. Yeah Yeah, and it's frustrating because in the current state of things, you know, what they want, what they're describing, what they're supporting in Putin, they know will not be

here in its same strength and form. So they can be like, ah, it's so great that he does all of this horrifying shit without ever actually having to feel the boot, you know? Sure. They get to have a wonderful fantastical time and be like, yeah, it's so great unless you're any of the people that I hate in Russia. And it's not even great if you're you. No, probably not. It's a delusion, but it's it's the way people view fascism is the same way they view past lives You know, but nobody nobody's ever like Derek everybody's all I was I was Cleopatra. No no in fascism you're Derek You get your ass beat every day were Derek that is it. Yep. Yep. So I think that

You might get a sense listening this interview that Lauren is a bit more into Putin that even Alex kind of thought boy That's not good other countries used to respect us. I mean no matter what you respect Russia and their power structure well this is a lot bigger than Tucker's I keep saying it's a lens through which we see everything and The fact that they're putting him on a kill list the fact that the EU is openly saying they want to sanction him and there the fact that they're putting him on a kill list, the fact that the EU is openly saying they want to sanction him and they're, looks like they're moving forward with that, and that the left and right corporate media is attacking him for this. It really shows how bad these people really are and what they would do to us if they could get away with

it. I keep saying that, but that's, I mean, they're not playing games here. Right. Everybody respects Putin and Russia and the power structure. Man, they said Navalny to dude. This is it's a bit on the nose. A bit bit too blunt, you know. I mean, it is like when I was growing up, I remember cartoons and everything was like the punishment was being sent to a Siberian work camp. Right. That was the cartoonish punishment. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. It was the heightened beat. It was the it was like, oh, that's the worst thing that could happen. More scary than quicksand in the nineties was a Siberian but close very close very close. Yeah. So Alex gets into talking about other interviews that Putin has done.

And I think he accidentally reveals why they're not doing those interviews anymore. Oh yeah. By the way, I've got a clip of Putin. Two years ago, he's being interviewed by NBC News. We'll play this in a moment. And two and a half years ago, NBC interviewed Putin. It didn't go well. That's why they've been trying to sabotage the Tucker interview that is coming out and I love Tucker's crew know them well But they'll they love to wait on an interview and add clips and massage it and get it ready And I called them and I said I'm sure they already knew to do this I'm not saying it was I did this but I put a video out too and I said you got to release this right now

Because the longer you sit on it the more danger you're in. Because again, it's a symbol of the globalist movement. And just like they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, even though it demonized them to the world, they still wanted to say we're in charge. It's like a woman trying to leave a guy that breaks her jar, puts cigarettes out on her. They're trying to stop us from getting the car and driving away. Here's Putin stopping NBC, dead on their tracks. To make this ask you a direct question, did you order Alexei Navalny's assassination?

Of course not. We don't have this kind of habit of assassinating anybody. That's wrong. Number two is I want to ask you, did you order the assassination of the woman who walked into the Congress and who was shot and killed by a policeman? Do you know that 450 individuals were arrested after entering the Congress and they didn't go there to steal a laptop? They came with political demands. 450 people have been detained. You're talking about a capital... They're looking at jail time between 15 and 25 years. And they came to the Congress with political demands. Isn't that persecution

for political opinions? So this is kind of a good encapsulation of why Putin chose Tucker, or more to the point, didn't accept interview requests from other outlets like NBC. He knew those outlets wouldn't be hospitable to him pushing his version of the story that's counter to reality. It's really ironic that Alex is playing that clip because it pretty much demonstrates why people are upset about Tucker doing this interview. If he was going to do a hard-hitting, asking tough questions interview, Putin wouldn't agree to it, just like he hasn't agreed to the other requests that he's gotten. Yeah. This is, um, nonsense.

You think he's gonna ask about Navalny? It's suck-y. No. No, I don't. Why was it such a great idea to try and kill Navalny? Wow. I mean, why was it such a great idea for somebody completely unrelated to you and not affected by you? What so ever with no influence at all? What is it like for people to think that you did this? Maybe that'll be a question. Oh man. Mm-hmm.

So Alex, here's that and of course Putin's talking about January 6th. Yeah. And so... Can you... Can you imagine? I just... That sucks. That clip sucks for me Yeah, it sucks so hard It sucks so hard in the same way that Elon Musk sucks So hard is that you have a nigh? Infinite amount of power and you're a whiny little loser You're a whiny little baby your response to you have the power to murder

whiny little baby. Your response to, you have the power to murder the only guy who is standing against you in an election whenever you want is to be like, well who killed Ashley Bennett? Fuck you! Was it you, reporter? Was it you? You pansy wuss!

That is pathetic. That is fucking sad. Oh my God. It is, it is. And I think that part of the reason that this is an inhospitable environment for him as an interview is that he does not come off strong. No, he's a week. He's a loser. And I think that that is not the image he would like to cultivate.

No. And he but he has to because if you rule via unceasing propaganda, you can't suddenly tell the truth. Sure. You just can't. And that's why you need a guy like Tucker. And that's why you can't go talk to somebody like that. Yeah. So Alex, like, you know, you got the idea from Putin talking about January 6th. He should maybe talk about January 6th a little.

They really tried to make us, like, our lives a living hell because they were scared of that uprising that happened on J6. They do not want the people to rebel. Well they're lucky they say that was our planned thing. No that was them setting us up. Imagine if a million people did show up with guns. Yeah it's true. And I'm not saying do that but I'm just saying careful what they claim is going on.

Oh boy. So I've noticed the shift in Alex's tone around January 6th lately There's so much playing defense and calling everything like an Antifa deep state plot before but now the rhetoric is changing He's starting to talk more regularly about how things were supposed to be much worse like he did recently about Pelosi being kidnapped Yep, it's hard not to hear this as a veiled threat or at least encouraging the audience to kind of think that way. If we have to, we can do a bigger January 6th where everyone's armed. This isn't a surprise necessarily. Alex has played out the January 6th narrative and there's not much else you can really farm from it, so you need to find a new angle to create tension around the topic. There's a really fucked up way to go about it, but it's

right in line with the way Alex operates. Yeah, create this tension. It builds and builds. And you know, there's a, there's a election year this year. If you have January 6th being a result of losing the last election, you got to top it somehow. You can't, you know, that's not, you can't go backwards. Well, I mean, boy, when the Supreme Court disqualifies Trump, that's going to be a good day.

That's going to be some fun stuff. I know that they're hearing the case. My favorite, I think somebody made the best point, which was so funny to me, which is just, Trump said he was going to be a dictator. If you're on the Supreme Court, you don't want a dictator. You become, you're infinitely powerful in the Supreme Court, you don't want a dictator. You become you're infinitely powerful. It wouldn't have been without a dictator.

Bip, bip, bip, bip, bip, bip. Oh, oh, no. He put us in the Supreme Court, and then we're not going to let him be president anymore. He be boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo That's how dictators work. It's different. They get a day. Man. Just give me a taste. Have we considered how about and Stop me if you've heard this before. All right once a year for 24 hours All crime is legal. There's a series of documentaries about this shit So Alex tells his his little version of what's happened in Ukraine. Yeah. And he's off about a number of things. So they go in nine years ago with all the state

department money. Soros goes off Reed's or Kyrie on CNN and Bragg's five years ago. They ever threw it. They start ethnically cleansing the Russians that are the majority population. And then Putin says, I'm going to take part of the East of the security zone if you don't stop.

He goes, OK, fine. I'll take Crimea of the East Social Security Zone if you don't stop. She goes, okay, fine. I'll take Crimea first to show you five years ago or six years ago. Okay, that didn't convince you. Now I'm going to do this. Really? This is your thing? Oh, he wants to invade all of Europe. That makes sense to you.

And they're bracing for war in Poland. No evidence of that. No, absolutely not. So that, yeah, that's the the that's the good version of things, which is wildly inaccurate, but it is fairly in line with like some of Putin's angles. I am going to take your land as a warning. Right. Yeah. What an insane person to even entertain that as a thought. I'm going to take some of your land because how because I will take all of it and I want you to know I'm serious sorry how dare you even pretend that

you're going to stop unless you're stopped that's pathetic no warning fucking insane so Poland is not worried for no reason there have been provocations at the border as well as the Lithuanian border sure thousands of Wagner group Merck's, they've shown up over at the border and Belarus flew helicopters into the airspace of Poland in a move that PBS described back in August as quote, provocational.

Oh, good. The likelihood of an attack on Poland does seem low, but it's not for no reason that leaders there might be concerned. A lot of this comes back to the swalky gap which We talked about on a recent episode Where there's a little bit of Russian territory called Kaliningrad? It's on the Baltic Sea yeah this area is separated from Belarus by the Swalky gap

Which is a border it's the border between Lithuania and Poland sure many people have seen this as a possible area that Putin could Target and concerns about a deal with the militarization of Kaliningrad as well as troops being sent to Belarus. There are precursors there that you might see before trouble and that's the grounds for what a lot of people are concerned about. It's not no reason. Also, that stuff Alex saying is just nonsense. Yeah. I think there's really, I mean, narratively speaking, if I'm writing this just for the satisfaction of, you know, tying together storylines, I'm gonna have to say the French are gonna conquer Russia.

I think that's what we need to like make all of European history up to this point make sense. Is France conquers Russia and then Britain takes over France. Everybody in France moves to Russia. Britain takes over France. Portugal goes away. Ooh, what about this? We're not allowed to have Portugal anymore.

Crazy plot twist. What's that? Luxembourg takes over. Ooh, I like Luxembourg. But wait, Luxembourg's part of France. As we learn from Alex. Alex. Yeah, I don't know man.

That's right. Shit's a mess. Luxembourg France. So Alex has some other stories that he has wrong, including the one about the Nord Stream. Sure. When the Nord Stream pipeline was blown up, it was because they were trying to remove the option

of Russian support. It was, you know, they were providing natural gas to Germany and other countries and they removed that obstacle for them. And then blame the Russians. Yep, and then blame the Russians. When obviously, I mean, it didn't make any sense for Russians. Well, Syherce got the witnesses. They came forward. It was Navy divers. Now who is that?

Navy divers. Oh, yeah. Okay. So what we knew it was, oh, so you were Navy divers. No, not Navy divers. Interesting. Navy divers. Now who is that Navy divers? Oh, yeah. Okay. So what we knew it was Oh, so you know, not Navy divers. Interesting. So we knew that I mean there was obviously Ukrainian involvement in that. However, you know, they were they're just puppets. But no, Syhurst got the documents. Special operations is under congressional control. The Navy SEALs. So they went to Panama and trained regular industrial Navy divers for it Yeah, and yeah, that is shocking Putin hasn't practiced great restraint such a restrained man Yet she's doing a good job trying to roll with the narrative shifts

Yeah There are no documents that Seymour Hirsch was supposed to have got His story is entirely based on a single anonymous source who claims that divers from Panama blew up the Nord Stream. His work is really sloppy though, like one great example was pointed out by Politico. Quote, the article certainly included some dubious claims, not least that NATO Secretary General Jen Stoltenberg has, quote, cooperated with the American intelligence community since the Vietnam War. Stoltenberg, born in 1959, was 16 years old when the war ended. Aaaaaaah. A little sloppy.

And Alex also has some details wrong here because he's just taken the general headline of Hirsch's story and then written his own narrative. Yeah. For instance, Alex adds in the documents because it sounds like so much stronger proof that a single anonymous source that that's you can push that away. Always have documents. Hirsch's work was on this was very sloppy and Alex's coverage of it is Sloppy on top of itself, but it doesn't matter the goal is supporting Putin and presenting the story this way serves that end

Yeah, and so that's what's being done I cannot imagine Believing these things they just sound so stupid they do but you know there's a narrative It just sounds so stupid. They do, but there's a narrative thread to it and it's kind of exciting. I get that, no, I do. Like I get why it would be like, I get why it would be good like reality TV,

but the idea that you would believe, but I mean, I guess, you know what I'm saying? Like the idea that you would believe reality TV storylines are 100% true. I know. You know? I know. Like that kind of, you know what I'm saying? Like the idea that you would believe reality TV storylines are 100% true. Hey now. You know? Hey now. Like that kind of, you know, this is lies.

For your, for your- Is it? Oh God. I mean, I'm pretty invested on the reality of the traders. Eh, oh God. So yeah, I don't know. Yeah. We've had enough of Lauren Witzke though. Yes we have. They talk about the border a little bit and I don't know. Yeah, we get a we've had enough of Lauren witski though

Yes, we have they talk about the border a little bit and I don't care don't so Alex coming back from this conversation. Sure. It's a little bit into a weird headspace. Okay, he comes back. He's got He's got a little twist in his narcissism. Okay. I was Walking back to the studio, and I just thought about what am I supposed to say right now? You know I've got all this news I Quit all this information in front of me take that But I'm not just here to cover news. I'm here to really talk about the heart of the matter And I thought we'll just look in the mirror

and Thought is hard to quantify you bad. Oh boy I thought it's so complex so deep Connected to so many things you're like, how do you say this? And so I was sitting here as the music started with Jimmy Hendrix singing thinking how do I explain this? I thought well, maybe you shouldn't even say it. Maybe I'm like no I mean that I mean it's huge, but it's simple at the same time, but also super deep like anything complex Pass the joint. Yeah

Here's the best way to say it we've already been conquered Let's stop lying to ourselves. We're not in a war. We lost the war But if you're occupied by an enemy power the first thing you got to do but if you're occupied by enemy power the first thing you got to do is admit you're occupied so I don't say that to demoralize you or make you depressed I say it because let's just admit we've been trained to put up without rages garbage I'm not a word for it sure I'm not gonna say it on the radio. Bullshit. Bullshit. Yeah. So, I'm trying to explain this.

It's going great. You know what? Don't stop now. It's a sense of guilt that we've let it go this far. And then it's kind of sick if I just sit here and like chronicle this like I'm doing a voiceover to a snuff film. You can't look into the mirror, man. I'm not doing this to just sit here and fear porn,

cover the latest new world developments. I really want to stop this. And to do that, we have to admit that we've literally been under bioattack. And I don't like to be like a liberal, oh, we're victims, but every man, woman and child in the world, you say your victims all the fucking time veterans of a bio weapon attack through the virus and then through the shot. And we have to really take that seriously is what I'm saying.

Yeah, take it serious. This is stolen valor. This is a stolen bio attack. Valor. Yep. Yeah. I am a veteran of equal standing to any veteran of any war. Maybe more. Maybe more so. Just so happens. Mine is fictional. Right. Non-existent. And I didn't get the vaccine. I didn't do it. So. Nope. I got COVID four times. Right. Yeah. Quite an attack. No. See, he's in a weird headspace. Can't look and do a

mirror. No. No. But I started to I started like, what is he talking about? That's a good question. Yes. And most of that was prompted by him expressing that he can't express the thing that he's saying. Yeah. I don't know how to say words. I mean, it is it is so much every time I'm like, I thought it's complex. Every time I go back and it's like, Oh, I was wonder. I wonder what's inside Alex's mind. And then he starts a sentence with like, I was looking in the mirror and I'm trying to tell you

how I think and I'm like, don't run, get out of here. Don't look in the mirror. It's usually a bear riding a unicycle, banging symbols together. That's what's in his head. Yep. So he, I was like, what is going on here? What is, what is this about?

And as he talks a little bit more, he kind of gets, I got a sense of what he's talking about. And, and we have to really take that seriously is what I'm saying. And you're a lot of you're like, well, Jones, you take it pretty serious, man. No, I don't. No. Okay. I mean, that's what happened in the first hour. I was so upset about all this that I couldn't even make myself cover it. And so I played the SWAT team clip of the women SWAT team members that couldn't find their ass with both hands.

And see, I could do a really entertaining show like that and be somewhat conservative, but it's not going to beat the new world order to just play fun clips and show how stupid the left is. The left are people that fell to the enemy brainwashing and programming anyways, that next count. So I do agree with Alex on one thing and that's that he was just filling time with that shit about the women's SWAT team. Yeah, it was it wasn't not funny and it really is just an avenue for him to push his misogyny and by extension transphobia but what I kind of take issue with him is that he's thinking that that's different than what his show is most of the time. His show isn't serious, they don't

get into deep issues, most of the time he's just yelling about memes. In the real world, Alex is like the Chris Hardwick of right wing bigot Twitter. He's out there scanning for hot memes and then yelling about them as if it's the news. And I can understand him feeling frustrated about that. And I think that's what's going on. It's a meaningless exercise. And it's hard to imagine somebody actually enjoying watching this show. But yeah, in his head, Alex is this big time revolutionary. And in reality, he's just an idiot recapping social media and headlines he skimmed. And guess what? He isn't the one who's interviewing

Vladimir Putin. He never would be and that's where I think this is coming from. Yeah. His buddy scored the top-of-the-line interview for their right-wing Putin-loving media space and Alex is forced to, as he put it, look in the mirror. He has to see that he's never gonna be in that position. He is where he is and that's all he's ever going to be. He can poison the discourse and erode his audience's critical thinking skills with fake shit and emotional outbursts, but as a person, being Tucker's friend is probably as close as he's ever going to get to the real shit. And that's gotta suck, particularly since Alex has said for the last few years that

Putin watches his show daily. Putin's a big fan of Alex and all the Russian propagandists that have worked with Alex who probably even said so and yet Tucker's the choice Poor guy so sad don't look in the mirror man I'm telling you to look at the mirror you're gonna you're gonna feel that you're gonna feel that complicated nonsense about how You're not taking this seriously. You're not serious. People don't take you seriously. Yeah, it is so it's so consistent, especially throughout this episode. This just like These are people who are unable to enjoy the thing they are. Mm-hmm. Their entire existence is obscuring the thing they are. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Like

is obscuring the thing they are. You know what I mean? Like, Alex's power and precision, everything comes from his profound unseriousness. Yes. It is his unseriousness that has made him a star. It is probably the only thing that makes him different. And he doesn't get to enjoy that? No.

He has to feel bad about it. Because he wants to be Tucker. He wants to be the guy that has a veneer of credibility he wants to be the person because he doesn't even get to enjoy his profound unseriousness no he doesn't even get to enjoy fucking interviewing Putin the right way like how fuck does that but there's degrees there is yeah and like Alex will never be in the position that Tucker's in because for someone like Putin to do interview, he has to be able to pretend to take the other person serious. Yeah. Yeah. And you can pretend to take Tucker Carlson seriously. You can't pretend to take Alex seriously. Yeah. And Alex understands that because here it's the tension.

It's the push and pull. Yeah. Of Alex. When he looks in the mirror, he understands that yelling about women's SWAT teams is probably his law in life. That is the peak of what he can do. He can do that. That is his talent. But he can do that about serious topics. Yep. He can do the same sort of coverage about some meme that's about something else. And sometimes that's what people want. But there's not really much more past that nobody feels like he is Yep, he feels like he's supposed to be the most important person in the world not Tucker Yeah, and that tension is gonna get you it makes you feel weird It just it just you know even Putin doesn't get to enjoy on

NBC doesn't get to say to an NBC reporter. Yeah, how great is it to be a dictator that guy? I can just order like MBS MBS didn't at least he was like eh no comment, you know at least he was like yeah, oh, yeah Of course, I chopped that guy into little bits. That's what I can do. How great is that for me? You know like that's why I love being that's why I say I'm a clown and I love saying that I'm a clown I love being a clown. I've been- it's an enjoyable life! Sure. You know?

Like be the thing you are and be happy with it. It's like Uncle Howdy said, Reveal in what you are. Reveal in what you- I just don't get it. That sucks, man! Enjoy the evil you are if you're gonna be that evil. Like Uncle Howdy. Yeah. One of the most evil entities that has ever- the most evil entity that are lived. So Alex interviews

drew Hernandez the baby reporter because he went down to the border in California and I don't care. Yeah. Then there was another thing that happens before that interview that I'm just not going to play any clips of, but I feel like I should point out what Alex gets like he goes on a rant about Circumcision he's a he's a bit anti circumcision. Okay, and I just all right I'm not saying that you can or can't be you know pro or against circumcision sure. It's just weird Alex is deep into Leave it alone. God made it, leave it alone. Yeah, I have no judgment wherever you fall, but it is odd for Alex to spend an extended amount of time on it.

It's not something that I have known to be part of his general perspectives. It's not one of his issues that comes up a lot, opposition to circumcision. Also, I mean, like the the predicated like the argument that he bases it on is like God made you let's not mess with God. Sure. Sure. And to that point, it should be a Christian scientist then or something. I mean, like he should he's got an oral surgery. Yeah. Whatever you're saying, just stop right

there. It's very strange. You haven't thought it all the way through. Yeah, but it was very, very fucked up. Just listening to him talk about talk about Dix and I just I didn't I didn't enjoy it. Weird. It's not fun. So anyway, we come to the end of this, Jordan. Yes. And we got that that interview to look forward to. But it is, it is so strange that through, through this episode, the journey through it, there is a feeling of like a strange relationship that Alex has to this. Yeah. You know, there's the, it's so exciting. My buddy Tucker has got this interview. Tucker is mine. Yeah. This ownership of the connection to Tucker. And then as things go along, this like wrestling with looking in the mirror

Seeing that I'm not serious. I'm not taken seriously There's there's a wild path that Alex walks that Huh, I don't know it Kind of is a bummer. Yeah Yeah, it's just it's a little bit of a bummer because it is an understandable human experience You could you can know you can know those feelings. Yeah Yeah, it's just it's a little bit of a bummer because it is an understandable human experience You could you can know you can know those feelings. Yeah Man hmm what about those warrants I?

Wonder I wonder what it's like You know you can only read about the past Watch documentaries and listen to people talk about the past, you know. And ultimately, I think everybody lies in the sense of like, they tend to make things more streamlined. Yeah, you gotta clean up the story. You clean up the story a little bit. Yeah, yeah. You know, the present seems utterly fucking insane. It seems impossible that anyone would ever be able to talk about the last 10 years in any coherent fashion. Absolutely.

Now, I mean, like even the Iraq war, like I think you can clean that up. You can clean it up. It's crazy, but you can clean it up into something you could give a lecture on. Totally. And somebody would get the broad idea of what's happened. No, yeah.

The last 10 years have been nuts. Absolutely chaos.. Yeah. Nonstop. You can clean it up for a story. No one no one's making any sense. Everybody is trying their best. People are fucking everything up. And that's I mean it's like the yeah. People of good will and good faith are still fucking things up. Yeah. And people who have ill will are I mean it's just like Alex is obviously an insincere bad actor. Yeah. But even he's been all over the place. Totally. It's totally. No it is it is like chaos times create chaos finding finding a consistent position from

anyone. It has been nigh impossible. I think that there's probably some criticism to be made that we've even had some inconsistency. I wouldn't put that past us, but I think that we get a little bit lucky in that the subject that we cover is consistently full of shit. And so there is a consistency in,

like we're just talking about Alex being full of shit, that's not gonna change any time soon. Right, right, right. I mean, I don't think, I think there's a difference between inconsistency And like we're just talking about Alex being full of shit. That's not going to change. Right. Right. I mean, I don't think I think there's a difference between inconsistency and being corrected. You know, like we've been corrected. Sure. I've been wrong about tons of shit.

Sure. No big deal. Probably look forward to a couple of things from today. Probably. Yeah, absolutely. It is not inconsistent to be corrected and then go, yep, I was wrong about that. Moving on. That's a fair point.

That is consistency. You know, it is inconsistent whenever people are just like, well, I was wrong about that, moving on. That's a fair point. That is consistency, you know? It is inconsistent whenever people are just like, well, don't care. Well, and I like this and I like that and I like this and it's OK for me to love Jesus and it's OK for me to love killing people on a Tuesday. Like it's just chaos. And it's just super weird to like just really take a step back

and recognize how it was not that long ago that Alex was talking about how he has all the documents and it's been proven that Putin fakes all these terror attacks to seize power and all this shit. And that all just went away. Yeah, like his audience is expected to just be like, oh, I guess Alex was lying or wrong about something he claimed he proved. Yeah. That a world leader was false flagging his people in order to seize power, which should call into question the credibility of all the other times, Alex says that, but you just ignore that. Anyway, Jordan, what a fucking mess. I am not looking forward to doing this interview, but we're gonna have to do it.

I was gonna say, at least the history-making thing we're gonna talk about isn't also a tragedy of epic proportions Oh wait, ah fuck and if Alex is correct and it's two hours is gonna be oh my god You nightmare that is unreal might be a two-parter please who knows please just why why is 2024 fucking with me so much. I don't know we had the fucking debate that you The Jimmy door thing is to know you're getting your ass beat and I don't know why. You haven't done anything to anybody except for like succeed. Maybe that's the problem. When people see you're good at something they ask you to do it more.

The universe. God damn universe. Anyway we'll be back Jordan. Yes. Until then we have a website. Indeed we do at sandwich fight.com. Yep we're also on website indeed. We do it sounds right. Dot com. Yep. We're also on blue sky. We are on blue sky. It's also forgotten to check blue sky in quite a while. So we are off social media. We are almost entirely impossible to get a contact with turns out a platinum platform. Not the problem. Just not made for it. Just not made for it. Anyway, we'll be back. But until then I'm Leo, Leo, I'm DZXClark. There's no twist. You got the tone a little bit off at first. Right. Funhouse mirror. I like it. And now here comes the sex robot. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.