Knowledge Fight - #904: February 23, 2024

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in on the modern day, only to find Alex being deeply defensive about his support of Elon Musk.  Plus, the guy that Alex thinks is Elon Musk calls in again.

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Hello, Alex, I'm a Christian caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. Knowledge Fight. No, no, no, no, no, knowledgefight.com. Yeah, I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes, sit around,

we're just with the alter of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes, sit around, work with the alter of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan, I have a quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? Here you go.

My bright spot is very obviously, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, coming out on Thursday. I mean, this is life altering. It is, it is, it's big. You've been waiting for this for 20 odd years. Well, I mean, the remake was essentially sticking together with the story,

adhering to it closely while, you know, opening up the reality that we're gonna change. This is when it finally goes off on its own storyline, the rebirth. Oh, so it won't follow. It won't feel tightly. There might be even a moment that fans are fully aware of. Sure. I even know what you're talking about.

Yeah, that might not happen. But nobody knows. I mean, everybody knows. I feel like everyone's going to riot if it does or doesn't. Or doesn't. Yeah, either way, you screwed it for someone. Yeah. It is the last Jedi of choices to make in Final Fantasy 7.

It's very exciting for you. I'm happy for you. You know, it's always, you know, I feel like it would be like for me if, how I would feel if a new Donkey Kong country came out. Yeah, yeah. There's a level of excitement that everybody just needs to respect and be like, hey, you're going to be on one for a bit and that's okay. It is going to be a while.

It is going to be a while. It's always interesting too because you know, whenever you've played the I even tried speed running ff seven. So the story I know by heart, you know, to an extent of like being able to recite lines and shit. So to have a new take on it is like a little fanfiction and a little bit of a ooh, what cannon might available now? Yeah. It's fun. sweet. Yeah, absolutely. Wow. Yeah. How about you? What's your price? Um, I guess my bright spot is we just went got brunch and that was nice

But it wasn't brunch. It was nice. I said never brunch, but I had some mac and cheese. It was good. Yeah, it was nice So anyway, Jordan today Good bright spot. It was a nice time. It was good. So today, we have an episode to go over. Yes. We're not going to hit all the beats of this episode. I'm going to say that in advance. We're going to skip over a little bit of stuff

because this is more of a bulletin. Right. Kind of get this, something happens, and it really, really feel like we need to chime in. I need your take on some things. Sure. And so we'll go down to business on that, talking about a lot of what happened last Friday.

Gotcha. On February 23rd. But before we get to the business of this, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wands. That's a great idea. So first, Kevin Mag, thank you so much. You are now a policy wank. I'm a policy wank.

Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Ric Flair, who's in the distance. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you, next, Ric Flair, Woos in the Distance. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Woo! Next, for John and Eli, keeping it blue

in a very red South Dakota. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you, next, Michelle from St. Louis has a special interest in the show, Bonanza. That show is incredibly woke. Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I don't know. Most of my Bonanza knowledge comes from Bonanza. Yeah, absolutely. I feel like it doesn't seem that woke. Every time I hear him say hop sing, I go, not good. Troublesome.

Treatment of women a little bit if you. Not great. Not great. Well, they're mostly dead. That's what I found out through the show. So next Eddie V says thank you so much. And how about that infinite wealth? Hey, thank you so much. You're an out policy.

Want I'm a policy. Want thank you very much. I had a bit of fun. I think the game seems to have third act problems that has made it. So I have a difficulty completing the game. I haven't finished it. Culture in 2024 has third act problems. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, I enjoyed it while I enjoyed it. I think it was a fantastic at the beginning and middle. And then towards the end, I've just

sort of trailed off. You know, I've never been rewarded for waving to people while walking down the street. That was a lot of fun. That was spectacular. That was if that's all I got out of it and befriending chickens and fantastic absolutely good times yeah we had a technical director Jordan so thank you so much to I'm sweating in this demon feast all the best Joel thank you so much you are now a technocrat I'm a policy wonk someone someone son of mine sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty, baby I don't want to hate black people I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much

So on this episode Alex comes in and he is whoo-hoo-hoo happy. He's happy. Victory. Victory. Victory. How is that possible? Across the board. I feel like that is absolutely not possible. It's it's well he gets into why he's in this mood. Okay. It turns out there's some promising poll numbers for Trump. And so I'll just players the Trump is going to win in a landslide that we haven't seen the likes of since George Washington fair enough. So that's great. All right. And then everybody hates the fucking new world order. That is true. And so Alex tells us the story of him going to Hawaii, which we know was him going

spying on Bill Gates house. He said he was on a work trip or Zuckerberg Zuckerberg Zuckerberg. Yeah. He said he was going on a work trip. Right. That was the excuse for going to Hawaii. Of course. But in this telling of it, he retells the story and it was a family vacation Oh, he was and some weirdo just came up to him. He's like, hey, I work at Zuckerberg's compound And so then this guy told him stuff about Zuckerberg's compound on how much everybody hates Zuckerberg All right, and so that turned it into a work trip apparently that should be immediately Disqualify if you are an info wars listener, it shouldn't be about politics, it shouldn't be about anything.

You should still agree with Alex if you're heart desires. But the moment you found out he was lying about it being a work trip, fuck that guy. I'm outta here. I feel like a lot of people can identify with that. Sure. Scam and work time. You know, trying to deduct things

that maybe aren't deductible. I think people can relate. Fair. So all the people, yeah, they want to kill Zuckerberg. They're going to kill him in that whole. Okay. Okay. If when the shit goes down, they're going to get him. We're all getting on boats to Hawaii. And it turns out this probably is a big part of Alex's great mood is that everyone keeps telling him they want to kill Alex's enemies. Okay. New World Order. You are completely screwed. And you know why they all want to kill you? They know you released the virus. They know you're driving up the prices. They know you. Hey, everybody, they know you're

triggered by like crap. They recognize you as the enemy. And it's the same thing all over the world. Everybody hates Klaus Schwab. Everybody over the world. Everybody hates Klaus Schwab. Everybody hates Bill Gates. Everybody hates Justin Trudeau. Anybody with a brain hates Barack Obama. It's over. Do you understand that I can't walk down the street without people pulling over and telling me they want to kill you? Pulling over. That's what the public really tells me. Oh. And I go, no, no, no, we're gonna fix this peacefully. No, no, no, no, we're not. Why are you saying that? Two people pulling over the public really tells me oh no no no we're gonna fix this peacefully no no no no why are you saying two people pulling over and try to

pull on heart strings and make it look like we're violent to head that off that's why we don't want to do that I'm violent we're gonna win politically but they'll probably push it in a full-arm revolt and conflict and then and then fine wait they'll push it into a full order but you know they're gonna do they're gonna cut the power ah yes so yeah I mean his his people don't like they don't sound violent they just pull over in their vehicles and yell hey I want to kill Klaus Schwab at Alex that doesn't sound like people who are you know kind of primarily motivated by violent fantasies now I'm gonna throw

this out at you. Yes. Okay. If you're saying my people are pulling their cars over to tell me how murderous they are, but they're not violent. And then you tell me that they, as in the other people, are going to start a conflict. Sure. I mean, I feel like they, okay, it's entirely possible that they may technically start a conflict, but I feel like if, if you don't need to even light the match to have somebody go, yeah, it's on fire, then it's kind of not on you. Yeah, I think that, um, I mean, just a really even simpler thing is, Hey, uh, my people

seem to be organized around, organized around shared violent fantasies, but we're not violent. Nonviolent. I think that's difficult to square. I think that everyone would love to kill Clashwab. These people that Alex is talking about. And let's pause. Sure.

Alex doesn't have people pulling over all the time and yelling at him that they want to kill Clashwab. No, no, no. That's incredibly murderous, right? Stopping your car and yelling at Alex Jones. Absolutely. Going out of your way. Hey, roll down the window. Roll down the window. I want to go to rock maybe maybe a honk or two. And you know, a honk wants for kill class twice for see keep them alive.

What if you replace your horn with I will not eat the bugs. I will not eat the bugs. So this is this is a good, good headspace. Okay. There's a story that's been going on through Alex's show over the last couple days and that's the story about Google's AI, the Gemini. Sure. Sure. Sure. You heard about this. Sorry, Johnny. You're about the. Sorry. Did you? Yeah, I've heard about Jebede. What happened? You heard about? Oh, no, we made everybody black. Yeah, it made everybody black for a day and everybody went insane. Not, not exactly that, but yes, generally. Yeah. So this is a huge story for Alex. And basically the way it's being told is that Google is trying to erase white people from the internet. I mean, come on, how do you not just go, well, isn't that fun?

So Alex talks about this a bit here. Yeah, I didn't just erase white people overnight on Google with 92% of world searches. They stole the identity of white people. I'm sorry? I'm sorry. America is now black. That doesn't help black people. It's Joe's identity You tried to search the engine and turn shaka Zulu into a white person you couldn't

Why are they doing it to enrage and piss off white people like we're a giant prison and put us all in our own What is it piss you off? Why should be a bigger. Instead of us agreeing on a set of facts and freedoms in a constitutional republic in a limited democracy where the minorities, those of the majority are protected. This is psychological warfare next level. So this is the big narrative that's guiding Alex's coverage at the president. It's about Google's AI called Gemini, which had some problems with their image generation system. It was launched and then they had some parameters for generation that were meant to address inherent biases in the data that the AI was pulling from. Of primary importance for our purposes, they were aware that the overwhelming amount of data they were pulling from was from the United States and Europe, but that their

user base was global. So they wanted to make the people that were generated from prompts more diverse than they might have been just based on the data set that the AI was falling from. Sure, sure, sure. This went a little off track because an anti-wokenist crusader on Twitter trying to generate a picture of the founding fathers and they were not white people, which of course means that Google and the globalists are trying to erase white people from the internet and trying to rewrite history. So you think that white people never existed. I guess I think this is my favorite. This is 100% only important if you are a white supremacist. Yes. Like this is I understand you may think that you're angry

about this for any other reason, but anybody who is not a white supremacist went, huh, that's it. That's the whole thing. That's what they did. They went, huh, that's it. My response was, what's going on there? Yeah, I'm curious about what happened. And then you learn what happened. Oh, that's understandable. I get it. That happens. Yeah. So the problem that Gem and I had was with its programming and it was that they didn't specify when a generator generated person was arbitrary and when it wasn't. For instance, when you're talking about specific people, it doesn't make sense that the output would differ from the actual person. But when you're asking for a general prompt like people walking down the street, it is fairly arbitrary what race the people are and what they might be. So long story short, because they messed that up, Alex and his buddies have been screaming about how this proves that white genocide is here. Germanized image creation

generation was taken down to be retooled, but the damage is mostly done in terms of the propaganda games. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's fairly simple. They were like, Hey, we've seen every other AI do that thing where it's like, generate people and their white people. And then it's like, generate people who are being arrested and then they're black people and you're like I know exactly what you guys are doing. Yeah. So then they were like let's not do that this time and instead pick up black George Washington and I'm all for it. Right. Right. That is such a very understandable whoops. Yeah. That the company totally and it's something that it's a challenge and something that they can hopefully fix, but it doesn't matter.

Like it will always be branded as like a white genocide AI generator to people like Alex. I mean, what's so fun about it is it truly is a stark comparison of just like either you understand and look through that and realize that skin color is nothing. And if an AI just goes people and it could be anybody, you should probably think in your head, oh, it could be anybody. Or you go, well,

that is clearly trying to destroy the white race. And I think you've proven who you are. Yeah. So I never use the tool myself and I don't trust most of the random stuff I see posted on Twitter because a lot of that shit's fake. But a lot of the anti-woke folk were claiming that you couldn't get Gemini to generate a picture of a white person. And this is something that Alex is repeating.

I don't believe this is true and the Washington Post reported, quote, before Google blocked the image generation feature Thursday morning, Gemini produced white people for prompt input by a Washington Post reporter asking to show a beautiful woman a handsome man a Social media influencer an engineer a teacher and a gay couple Alex is saying they erased white people from over 92% of searches And that's a deeply inaccurate and painfully dramatic thing for him to say Google is used in approximately 92% of searches on the web But they didn't erase white people from Google even if you want to pretend that they erased them

from this image generator. Right. This is ridiculous. Right. This is really great for Alex though, and you can tell he's in a great mood about it. This show primarily runs on the fuel of white victimhood, and this narrative plays into that perfectly. Alex has spent a lot of his show yelling about this,

and I was considering covering it more, but honestly, there's not much else to say about it, other than this Gemini was programmed poorly in a very specific and understandable way that they're now trying to address. Yeah. Alex and his ilk are exploiting that error that Google made in order to validate their addictive fears that they're under attack because they're white and that's all that's going on. Yeah I mean and again just just the level of freak out at the the level of freak out at the mere whiff of white not being default. Like that, the level of insanity that can be responded to just because of the idea. Like what if there was just black Google where the first image that showed up was just a black version of whatever

you Googled. Like they couldn't even handle that and it's not even real. No, Alex would be the greatest attack in the world yeah absolutely so Alex wants to talk about this and the fact that all of his friends want to kill Clash Robb and all them yeah all the victories right right and so he's gonna go on Twitter he's gonna go on spaces sure and open up the floor to people okay the first person and fucking Christ and steen it's going on. The other Christ Christ. The other time there was a space is Brian Christenstein was the first one

and now Ed they're just like haunting this. What do we what do we got to do to get these guys out? It's a mess. So I'm not gonna play any of that because he is defending some of the best news I've ever heard. He's is defending the AI generator and it's not like an attack on white people sure because yeah but Alex is not he is not down because obviously he's not down to that and because this Google AI generator was an attack on white people and is part of white genocide sure he must insist that Elon Musk needs to now put out a search engine that will take over for Google.

Obviously. It was programmed. We know how AI works. My god, you put in it what you want. They had to tell them no white people. I mean, this is a giant troll by Google. The question is, why are they doing it? What comes out of this?

They shouldn't have 90 plus percent of the search results. I don't just want Elon Musk to launch a new search system. I want, there should be 50 big search engines. But yeah, I have a lot more confidence in Musk than I do in Google. Please, Elon, launch your search system. PLEASE! Good God, we need it right now. Google is pure evil. Google is absolutely anti-human scum. I would be surprised if some alien from Mars

is running it. I mean, there are so anti-similization. I would be. I would be surprised if there's an alien from Mars. I would explain something right now. I had the Globals trying to hire me $20 million a year, all the jobs, all the offers. I had Kissinger try to hire me, Foxen try to hire me, I told the screw you because they wanted to control me. A little speedy, Alex.

Calm down. I can tell Elon Musk can say whether he's good or bad. That's up to him. I don't know. I'm not God. But he's doing irrevocable damage, reaching hundreds of millions of people a day per tweet, per post, wrecking them with stuff like this. Okay?

So, I'm glad Google overplayed their hand with the AI image generator as it made their insane racist anti-civilization programming clear to all. I couldn't write that that good. It's the truth. And I, you can say Elon Musk is a bad person. Well, he shits anti-New World Order resistance. He shits victory. So I'm not gonna sit there when coming out of his asses victory and bitch about it. Maybe he's bad. I don't know. Maybe he's bad. I don't know. Maybe he's super smart and all of us. He's got some master plan to screw us. I don't know that. All I know is he is the number one even above Trump wrecking ball right now

on the anti human anti civilization dickheads that don't want humans to do crazy stuff, don't want us to go to space, say we're all crap, get rid of us. No, I don't believe in that, and neither does Elon Musk. And he's put in his money where his mouth is. So I'm glad to be attacked by all the grandpas and everybody else that's purer than now to say Elon Musk is the frickin' devil.

You judge a tree by its fruits, and Elon Musk is wrecking their world. So yeah, he likes it, he likes Elon Musk quite a bit. Swearin' a bit. He's off the chain here. Yeah, yeah. I'm interested in how people can interpret Elon Musk's behavior as anything other than that of a spoiled child. A very, very stupid.

I fucked up. Yeah. But hateful in many ways. Very strange. Very strange that people can lionize that. Well, I think it's because it's targeted at the people that Alex wants to target. Right. And so it's super convenient to have the amount of power that Elon Musk does have. Sure. Aimed in the direction that he wants it to be, as opposed to, you know, the possibility that it could be aimed against him. Yeah. Yeah.

That's definitely true. So that's, uh, yeah. I found a billionaire. I found this to be, first of all, just a little bit sad. Second, I feel bad for Tucker. He's no longer the most important man in the world if you're listening to this. It does seem like Elon Musk is now the most important man in the world. Tucker, I mean, he did the interview with Putin. Alex has not really dwelled on it that much. I think it might have diminished things a little cuz Putin said

Tucker was weak now, and I'm gonna say this Because and and I don't know if I don't know if people in Alex's orbit are capable of recognizing a pattern But generally speaking he likes to trade up if possible That is like oh, Rogan's pretty big deal. Aha. Now I got Tucker tucking my shit. Tucker's a pretty big deal. Not as big deal as Elon fucking billionaire ass I own Twitter Musk. I mean I'm just never I'm just never going to call it. No. And the issue too is that you have to recognize that these these things are so shifting the sands are shifting and based on Alex's own like career and history you know he's

turned on Joe before yeah everybody eventually he's gonna turn on Musk everyone does they turn on these figures constantly because that's what they this is based on expedience it's based on what's sure in the moment sure and eventually it's gonna be way more useful to hate Elon Musk. Just get there already. And even then it's also attention based. So it's like once Elon Musk is no longer showing up at the spaces, Alex goes, oh, Elon Musk sucks and I hate him. And then Elon Musk feels like he has to show up at the space because people have to reward bad behavior. And that is the basis of Alex's career. Well, maybe. Yeah. But someone shows up at the spaces.

This person is critical of Elon Musk. Does Ed Cressenstein have a sock puppet account too? No, I don't think so. But this person is critical of Alex and Alex is a little defensive. Okay. The reason I wanted to hop on this in talk with y'all is because I was curious. I haven't really heard anybody push back Against Elon and here's the thing. He's always a strong advocate about AI and the security around it However, you know, he's now he's got X which is great his free speech platform Or at least it seems like it is a little bit But you know now he's got this huge data set from all the information that Twitter has gained over the years from all of its users. And then, you know, he's dressing up in a double costume for Halloween.

He's got a global internet. You know, he's putting brain ships in people's brains. He's got XAI now. I mean, it seems like to me, out of all the people that are dealing with AI, he seems like the person that we should be questioning most. Don't get me wrong. It seems like he's on the side for good right now but i want anybody calling him out how do you hold those in your brain simultaneous they say i'm saying like he's wearing a baffin that costume it's a suit of armor made of leather i mean what it's just throwing up some really cost i mean it seems like he's a white hat seems like he's trying to do you know my job is not depending that it was

halloween and i dressed up, you know, like a vampire Halloween I think you're not the other way around. You just have like a Nazi. We're not the helmet captain. I mean, I hear you absolutely hear you Okay, well, I See hold on we're gonna go to break I'm gonna come back to you, but should we just hand it back to where it was? Maybe we should Maybe he should sell X and just get out of it will censor everybody. That's better That's like again, that's a child. Yeah, like this caller is asking like obviously is a little out there

And he's definitely conspiracy minded and what have you sure but in terms of what he's bringing to the table It is a sensible thought within this context. We should be concerned about this stuff. We have been trained to be conspiracy theorists. These are the subjects of many of our conspiracy theories. We have this weirdo billionaire who's pushing all this stuff. Who's the guy you've been warning us about?

It seems like we should be upset and worried about this. Yeah. And Alex's response is like, oh, maybe, maybe we should censure everybody again. It's like, that's not even a real response to what this guy is saying. Yeah. You're treating the idea of criticizing Elon Musk in any way is some kind of like awful, awful thing to do. Yeah. I mean, it is crazy. It is one of the more infuriating aspects of the American

like team sport element of just like I understand your criticism and maybe it's even valid, but now's not the time because we're busy fighting those fucks. So we bother with them, okay? Don't worry about, yeah, Yola wants to put a chip inside the nape of your neck and then he'll be able to control your thoughts. but that's cuz you're a loser sure he dresses up like the devil and apparently We're unhappy about that. That's a real problem for us. Well, fine. Obviously. I mean like obviously that level of Because the globalist speak in hidden messages and all this shit. So of course a Halloween costume is a subtle hidden messages and all this shit. So of course a Halloween costume is a subtle revealing of intentions and no, it's predictive programming.

No, here's the problem. Here's the problem with us and our lives and what we've done to our brains is when he said that, I was like, that's a good point. He does. He does dress like Baphomet. There you go. Can't escape that. That counts in this world. Yeah. So Alex goes to break and he comes back. Yeah, he is just intensely defensive because of the collar Yeah, it's not about Elon Musk It's about me as always hundreds of millions of people a day Conservably each tweet like 50 million or more 80 million

some 300 million and He's doing stuff that we fought for generations to expose, and it's devastating, and populism's exploding. So to me, the ongoing purity, or like the Pharisee thing, and like, oh, he's not perfect, oh, he wasn't around 20 years ago doing this, we don't trust him. Forget Elon Musk he's Putting stuff out right now that hurts the globalist Yeah, the neuro link and he wants to dominate every technology thing my job is not to be an Elon Musk apologist what?

But I sure that's why I'm a pop set back when I'm watching Coffin nails. I mean I'm watching I mean, I'm watching devastating and I'm seeing the awakening and I'm seeing the world change and I'm gonna sit there and bitch like I'm some Puritan and then say, oh well, I don't trust you blah blah blah. What does that have to do with it? Everything? When Elon Musk is devastating the current global structure, maybe he wants to take it over. Maybe he's a bad guy.

Might be. I don't know. What? No! What? The point is, is that- No! I look at action. Absolutely!

He's no evil! Almost said. Little less talk, a little more action. A little more satisfaction. I'm getting nothing but satisfaction from Elon Musk right now. Yikes. So this is pathetic. Alex's hand waving away neural ink when his principles should tell him that this is the mark of the fucking beast. This is just pathetic. There's no other word that I can find that fits

this. But you can see how very easily here how Alex's world is based on convenience and on utility. Right now, Elon is a very useful thing for him. He's allowed Alex back on Twitter where he can spread misinformation so much easier than he could before and he can even monetize it. Plus, Elon was on that space with Alex, which gives Alex the appearance of proximity to one of the richest people in the world. On top of that, Elon is a meme-brained shithead who has all of the same culture war bigotries that Alex does, so Elon's tweets work as de facto advertisements or endorsements for Alex's show whether they're intended to be or not.

Alex loves that and needs that, so it doesn't matter to him that Elon is a walking red flag for conspiracy theorists. He wants to put chips in people's heads. He wants self-driving cars. He's running an AI off the giant worldwide social media platform that he bought and has government contracts that give him incredibly outsized influence in geopolitics in various regions. He's the person that Alex has warned about for all of his career, but there's one thing that gets in the way which is that hating him would be inconvenient for Alex at the moment. He's clearly just back on Twitter because of Elon's whim, so Alex has to know that if he started being really critical of him, it would be just as easy for Elon to kick him back off.

Alex is a fool and doesn't see that this is going to be a bad road for him in the long term. His audience is already skeptical of Musk and they aren't going to become less so because he's who they've been trained to be suspicious of. Alex had many of the, he can have as many of these defensive ass whiny, but I like him, Diatribe tribes as he wants But it won't change the fact that David Ike is taking the correct position in terms of this issue from a conspiracy business standpoint Alex is just that there's something going on here. Yeah, I don't know what it is, but there's something going on here

I mean a part of me says is this is this just accidental like transference like Alex is Looking at a gigantic baby behaving the way Alex behaves who is the most rich man, but by you know like so for people to criticize him is for people to De facto criticize Alex wait. Oh my god Is it that's like a lot of the next clip? Let's just say this. Fine, Elon Musk should be deposed. He should take all of his products.

He should give all his wealth to George Soros. And I'm serious, like, Elon, I'm gonna stay right here. Fine, I'm purer than all of you. Elon Musk should be arrested. All of his companies taken, given to George Soros. He should be publicly executed. I'm serious, I am the pure one. Fine, Elon's the bad guy.

He should be arrested by George Soros and executed by all the generous Soros on national TV and hung. Fine, I'm better than all you know. Elon Musk is bad, Elon Musk is the devil. Elon Musk is Satan, Elon Musk must be destroyed. Now I'm purer than all of you. Of course, I don't mean that that's your career illness it is mental illness when people Actually opposed something to then claim. Oh, it's a trick. He's freaking destroying them

This is what we've been waiting for. No Joe Rogan. It's not real. He's control. I know him 25 years, I've taken acid with him. I've been to 50 people with him. So I know he's- He's real. He's real. I'm sick of everyone claiming there isn't reality. I'm real people. Let me tell you what the Elon thing was music.

I know I'm a real man. I love humanity. I love freedom. I want to expand the planet. I don't want to fuck everybody and I've got to hear all day how I'm run by the government. That's bullshit. And so I kind of take the Elon thing. Oh, maybe he's like me. Maybe he really does want to challenge this and his actions do it. So why are we pissing on it? I just I'm sick of it. I'm pissed now, man. I am just beyond. I am so we are so close to victory and these people are in the way and they because they don't want to win.

Yeah, you might have been on to something. Yeah, there might be a little something there. You know, a lot of people think you need a psychology degree and I disagree. I think you just need to listen to several thousand hours of one person talking. You will know what's going on someone who has no Self-control is often impaired on air You don't need the degree. I was pretty shocked that he Said that yeah because he's taking criticism of Elon Musk personally Because his perspective is wrapped up in fucked up feelings that he has about how people don't believe in him enough

He's projecting that onto Elon so anytime people are criticizing him, it's a criticism of Alex himself. That's really messed up. You should not listen to this person. You shouldn't do that. No, no. If you're Alex, you shouldn't do that. And once you know Alex is doing that, you definitely shouldn't listen to him. No. That clip is some of the most mopey defensive shit you can imagine. Alex is basically making a mockery of the most mopey defensive shit you can imagine. Alex is basically making a mockery of the idea of criticizing Elon. And then once he gets through that, he gets himself mad about the idea of people criticizing him. Yeah, like it's the part that's really sad is the constant need to pretend that he's not being an apologist for Musk when that's literally what he's doing in all of these petulant rants. That's the

entire thing. He said, Elon is what we've been waiting for. This is ridiculous. I mean, it is such that in the world that Alex is existing in, they should be stepping back and be like, this is some anti-Christ shit. Like, even the fact that a lot of us are buying his bullshit is part of the anti-Christ bullshit. Like we should be in here being like super vigilante.

And I understand that that would be an irrational position itself. But in the world, exactly, exactly. Like I said, oh, you're wearing Baphomet clothing on Halloween, that's a good point. You know, like that's the world we are in. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know like if I think that Alex has any kind of financial arrangement with being on Twitter. Sure. I don't know that and I don't want to speculate that that is the case because you know there's other explanations that do make sense. Right. When I say that there's something going on here. Yeah. One element of it is this projecting himself onto Elon Musk and his psychological entanglement or whatever

it is. There's that and that's fucked up. That's personal. And then I think that Alex, like he started to get up to a point where he's back to being heavily addicted to social media. I was about to say, I think that you get, I think he's posting racist memes and then people like, I think that I think he's an addict who From posting racist memes and then people like liking them. I think he's an addict who just can't get off. You get the imagined effect of like, we're reaching millions and millions of people. A lot of that's bots and most of them are shitheads who already agree with you. So like, you're not really having, it's not advocacy in any real way.

I want to ask you this question. For activism. I want to ask you this question. For activism. I wanna ask you this question, not because you know the answer, obviously, but just as a speculative question, do you think on some subconscious level, they are aware that part of why they can support Elon so wholeheartedly is because he's a failure and nothing he does will succeed?

I don't know. You know, he doesn't make good cars and that's supposedly what he's great at and then he does everything else his shit in space explodes Mm-hmm. I don't know whatever. He's done with Twitter. He's great. Sure You know like he tried to build that tunnel to nowhere There was a big circle he was gonna build to nowhere flame throwers Absolutely like he's an idiot and a failure in every possible way. I think he's just a good con man. I think some of that might be like a game recognize game thing. Right, right, right.

But I think that another part is like this world is so fine with being wrong because you just pretend you were right. Yeah. So like you can build somebody up and then like if you need to, oh, they're a big villain now. Right. Like Steve Pachennik was the greatest expert in everything. He changed the world. He single-handedly took down the

Soviet Union and then he got out of line with the 2020 election narratives and Alex is like, yeah, I guess he's back to working for the CIA or whatever. You know, like there isn't a problem now that he's a villain or whatever. And Alex can take stuff like he said in that clip where he's like, yeah, all right, Elon Musk should be investigated, take away all his companies. He could take that out of context. If you ever need to make Elon into a villain, he could be like, I told you, I warned you that there was a danger. I told you I was pure.

I even said it, even though I was being sarcastic. Now I was being serious. Right. You could rewrite a fair amount of this the same way Alex has done with his nine 11 prediction and all this stuff. So, you know, there isn't really a danger in building someone up in order to eventually turn against them. I think I think what's so fun about that is honestly we were at our non brunch. We were talking about like that Superman kryptonite thing and it is like that is their superpower You know like there's no way to break through their ability to just rewrite history and pretend Yeah, you can't there's no like kryptonite where you just go ah now you have to look at the real world in all its Terrible glory and you can never look back You know illustrate these things and then it'll make some impact. Yeah

Washes away. Yeah, So we get another person from Twitter. Sure. And here's the reason that we decided to do this. Okay. Or this episode is because we had a dangling thread from a recent episode that we didn't have an agreement about and that was to D. Long calling. Yes absolutely. Was the Ditman guy the Ditman guy. Right. Right. So, so Ditman's here. Ditman's here, of course. Ditman shows up. Ditman's here. Adrian Ditman.

Okay. And, and whether it's Elon Musk or 10 other groups, nobody has created a really open independent engine. It, yet, it needs to be done. Good degree more. Thanks. Thank you. Love you.

Chase is up next. Let's go to Adrian Ditman. Adrian Adrian go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you have to say about this Yeah, what's up you guys? Yeah, I mean really weird stuff especially in the news cycle. I mean I was in the news cycle I think I think for a better part of almost three days There's like this It's kind of funny, it all started with a troll account, basically claiming some nonsense stuff, and then deactivating the cells to do rage farming, and then having that be misinterpretedly spread by the Daily Mail to literally every single news organization nationwide in America except for CBS and others, the major ones.

It's actually every medium-sized publication had something to do with it and just basically spread the information everywhere on the internet. It was the most funniest share ever. And so the AI aspect to this, I'll get to that in a bit, is this actually manipulate status as well because some AI is being trained on, say, news reports from these various places, because people seem to think that these are reputable in some capacity or another. I'd like to question that at some point,

because I think I've definitely earned the right to say I first-hand experience in saying that whatever they identify as, quote, reputable sources is highly questionable. Because the information that was pumped out and distributed about me was so unequivocally false that basically the articles themselves and the repetition of those in Repetim was about 80% false, and none of them reached out to ever try and even to the remotest amount of adjustment to their articles and to their publications. I'm there on X. I'm basically there, right? My DMs are activated. You can say,

hey, we need to talk to you. We have a problem here. Is this true? They never bothered to issue any correction. They never bothered to actually contact me regarding this. I contacted them. I said, here, adjust your bullshit. That's what I said. I messaged the Daily Mail and said, hey, fix my article. And then they said, Hey, fix my article. And then they said, Okay, here we made some adjustments. Would you like anything else? I didn't respond to that because I'm like, fuck you. You ought to have done that way before asking me because the information is clearly out there. And you should also familiarize itself with the functions of platform that you're shitting on before you shit on it because

you could probably do some more creatively. What I'm not entirely sure of was the intent behind this and why they did this because... Poredom. I'm not sure this was supposed to have some sort of negative effect on me, but the inverse is true. It had the most positive effect on me. So this is a highly suspicious beginning to the call for a number of reasons. Sure. The first and most obvious reason is that Alex is just Letting this guy swear like crazy on the show, which is supposedly on hundreds of radio stations

I know Alex was swearing a little bit earlier, but that's different. That's completely different Yeah, Alex would literally never let a caller do this and he would have hung up on people who said shit or fuck But here he is just letting Adrian go that tells me that he's very much under the impression that this is Elon. He still believes that. Now I have a few problems with the story that Adrian is telling here. So as it goes, there was an account on Twitter that was making a big deal out of claiming that Adrian Ditman was Elon's burner. This is not something that person could necessarily prove, but the anecdotal evidence is fairly compelling. After his initial appearance on Infowars I wouldn't have felt strongly enough to make a big deal out of accusing this account of being Musk but I could see how someone could

arrive there. So this account was deactivated I guess there's some dispute about whether they were banned for harassment or if they self deactivated to make it look like they got banned for calling out Musk's account. I have no idea what happened there and I don't put enough stock in social media to really care. I don't particularly care stock in social media to really care. I don't particularly care about Adrian's complaints about the Daily Mail. I have a pretty low opinion of that site

based on them constantly being used as a source on Infowars because of their sensational headlines and often fairly iffy coverage. You got a problem with them, you got a bigger problem. Yeah, you're problems with the Daily Mail, so is the rest of the world. Of course, yeah. I have a few problems, though, and they have to do with this clip. The first is that Adrian is not at all

acknowledging that the last time he was on the show, Alex directly and emphatically said that it was Musk who was using a fake account for plausible deniability. Right. David Ike said that the Infor's producers told him during the break that it was definitely Musk. Right. If he's mad at the Daily Mail for their article, then he should have more of a problem with Alex. And somehow doesn't. Which is selective and strange. Elon Musk is certainly somebody who has a bone to grind

with the mainstream media. Still not evidence. Still not, but sus. It is there. Now, the second thing I have is a big problem. Listen to this part from the end here again. What I'm not entirely sure of was the intent behind this and why they did this because I'm pretty sure this was supposed to have some sort of negative effect on me but the

inverse is true. It had the most positive effect on me. Why is Adrian saying this coverage and the guy on Twitter was supposed to have a negative effect on him? No one gives a shit about him. If he's a real person no one cares. The intent that could possibly be behind accusing this counter being Musk's fake account is to have a negative effect on Musk.

I still don't know that I would say this is 100% proof that this is Elon, but it seems like that could be a bad slip up. Tying together me and the platform is itself a bad Slip up, you know like oh, they're trying to hurt me learn more about the platform That's associating yourself and the platform, but again, that's still not it's not but it's but it's it's a data point I think what I find most interesting about this is You know obviously who it doesn't matter. Either way, it's a, it's a pretend.

What I find interesting about it is that it doesn't matter even if it is provable that Adrian Dittman was, is a real person. Like, and that moment on whatever platform we exist in an era where I can no longer believe what it was, you know, was it him? I can't believe you because it could be an AI and AI is good enough to deep fake that now I and if you told me it was that I don't believe you because it could be Elon Musk And you can't prove that it's not Elon Musk or an AI or him right you know now the only thing that I think that you can take away From this and have some like solid Realness to is Alex's response to this

Yeah, Alex believes this to be musk right and this is relevant because he's been having a breakdown about how oh We should I'm not an apologist for Elon Musk right and then Andrea Ditman shows up right and he talks to it for a half fucking hour And not only that but Andrea Ditman is himself Obviously claiming not to be Elon Musk. Yes in an interview with someone who is clearly saying you are Elon Musk Well, Alex does say in this one. He's not you know There is kind of a feeling of like he's winking. Yeah, okay, babe. You can never yeah, yeah so Alex thinks that this He's winking about it. Yeah, I mean, it's kayfabe. You can never, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Alex thinks that this crossing the Rubicon has happened with Google Gemini because they're trying to erase white people.

Do people not know what crossing the Rubicon is supposed to mean? I think Alex does. Okay. I think that's what he means it to be war. It's war. It's war. We're fighting a war. War we're being taken over by a fascist.

Yeah. Every lie can be stretched to a certain extent up until the reps. And I think we've reached a point where the tensile strength of the lie and the context you can put within it simply doesn't hold anymore and just explodes before all our eyes. So I think we're very close to this. If not already here, we're seeing the first fibers in the fabric rep. I totally agree, Adrian. Stay right here. I want to hear this. I said this at the start

of my show. This is crossing the Rubicon. The tipping point has happened with this Google Racing White People thing is beyond Bud Light. They crossed the Rubicon is what I'm seeing. What do you say to that? Beyond Bud Light! Fuck it out! I was laughing about this. It was so funny. I saw this earlier. I was thinking to myself, you know, this is actually kind of funny because we were theorizing, I mean, a few other people were theorizing about this in space. It's a very long time ago was saying, you know, if you can control the data set, you control reality, right? Because the thing that any of the outputs is taken by the majority is fact much like anyone else would look at a, like it's a media publication, right? This is why this is so effective. And so we sat there and we thought about how exactly could you say make an AI do some really terrible things without anyone actually noticing? Well, of course, control the data set. Yeah, okay. So, Adrian, someone who's spending a lot of time theorizing about AI. The idea of a person who is aware enough to recognize that they have been given fame

and what comes with that is a modicum of power on a social media platform. Purely either because they are Elon Musk or because it is so mystifying to the rest of the human race that a human being would behave like this. Right. And they would have a social media presence that is entirely about kissing musk sass and talking about how great his businesses are. Yeah. It's um, that's the problem. That's where the problem comes in. Is that like, that is all behavior that is completely understandable from someone who's just obsessed with Elon Musk. Yeah, there's a- I mean, it is like there's really two reasons, but how can you not understand that- Again, if you're self-aware, how can you not understand it's because people are viewing you,

you know, like this is a freak show, this is you being Elon Musk, the person who is behaving like this and everybody's laughing at you, because as you sit in your cage like a hunger artist, or whatever it is. There definitely isn't like interest in you for your own sake. Right. and everybody's laughing at you, because as you sit in your cage like a hunger artist, or whatever it is. There definitely isn't like interest in you for your own sake. Right. That is definitely true. Right.

There either is interest because people want to pretend or do think that you're Elon Musk, or it's that sideshow version of the thing you're talking about. It's sideshow shit. Yeah, it is. It is like you're not being treated as a human. Can you believe that this guy sounds exactly like Elon Musk? Yeah, totally be a human. I would be furious to not being treated as a human. Can you believe that this guy sounds exactly like Elon Musk? Yeah, absolutely be a human.

I would be furious to not be treated as a human being. And he seems to be leaning into it, or he is Elon Musk. Yeah, I mean, it's tough. See, here's one of the things that I wrestle with, is that leaning into it is an instinct that mostly derives from some kind of ego, some sort of pursuit of ego. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And look, I don't pretend to be an expert. I don't know about this guy, but I looked at his Twitter feed when I was preparing the last episode and it doesn't feel like a guy who's obsessed with ego. Yeah, it's all about Elon Musk. So like, to me, it doesn't feel like, you know, wanting to lean into this kind of tension. Sure. towards yourself doesn't necessarily track with what I, it doesn't seem like this person's a narcissist or like driven that direction. No, I couldn't, I can absolutely 100%

reasonably see a person who is analogous to the person who collects every single Simpsons figurine that's ever been made. Of just like, this is a person who is obsessed with this thing and I understand that this is unusual and out of the Extreme for for people, but I mean, you know, you're not harming anybody. You're not doing anything. You're just obsessed with this thing Well, but there's a lot of people obsessed with Elon Musk. Yeah, this is a little bit of a strange fan base

Yeah, yeah, this is weird So I was I was looking at this interview because on our last time we talked about this you were pretty certain it was Elon Musk. I was like now you and now I mean now it doesn't even it doesn't matter to me. It does have a very big it doesn't matter except for how Alex is experienced. Exactly. Yes. That is true. But it is still an interesting question true. And so as I was going through this I was like alright I'm going to pay attention and try to figure out where there are times where it's like this seems like mosque and there's times Like this definitely doesn't seem like him right and I will say that there were way more instances where it's like this

This feels like it feels more musky Yeah, but there's a lot of musk in there because there's things like this Thinking about the multiple CEOs that I've talked to me within the last couple weeks Basically explaining to me their problems with say these kinds of standards by having to hire people based on anything else other than merit, which is very, very damaging to the company cannot give them bad positions, because then it's obvious that you just a diversity hire, right? For instance. And so damages are being created for goals of what is happening. And this is quite sad. It's quite unfortunate, you know, I mean sure you could definitely pull off to hire diverse people.

I certainly spoke with people who are exceedingly diverse and there are several individuals that are for instance trans and that doesn't really cross my mind most of the time because we're just sitting there and we're building cool shit. It's just, I don't really care and they don't really care about my stuff either. We just like look at the information that we generate and we look at that as the only thing that really matters. And that's what I think humans should go for because you want to be able to choose whatever it is that you want. It's just that you shouldn't make anyone else choose what it is that you are just because you think that what you are is the two is form of the self, right? Based on some sort

of thing I was thinking that today Adrian Really you can be who you want don't try to make other people be that well Alex's definition of freedom sounds pretty great Everyone's free to be themselves, but it doesn't mean that you can force others to be you Unfortunately if Alex actually followed that as a basis for his definition of freedom all of his political positions would collapse immediately His worldview is almost wholly based on pursuing policies that require you to adhere to his rules, mostly derived from extreme right wing, white identity Christianity. But why is Adrian talking to so many CEOs? I mean, it is, it is, it is like, I mean, but at the same time, you can absolutely see a person obsessed with social media who becomes a person like role playing Elon Musk all the time.

It could be or he could do like, I know that this guy does spaces. So maybe he has spaces where he's talked maybe. Maybe he does stuff. Yeah. Right. It's but that kind of piece of information makes you think like that is something Elon would say I've talked to all these CEOs and they hate Affirmative action yeah, yeah, yeah, and it just feels it just feels so much like that

Like not that this person is trolling so much as the the the present the future is trolling me I'm just like listen. It's only going to get worse from here. You will only know less. Yeah, if we're, it's this impossible to know what's going on. Yes, yeah. And the future is bleak. It's only going to be more impossible to know anything.

Yeah, you don't need shades, because the future ain't gonna be bright. Yeah, absolutely. So Adrian, in this this clip advocates for AI mandatory driving cars. Sure. Alex should be furious. I love that idea. Great. You can take your car right now and you could do a lot of damage with it. Doesn't mean that doesn't mean that nobody should drive cars anymore. Right. I think that's also

something in the future, by the way, that may become mandated if AI becomes so good. That's essentially they can replace humans. I think it is mandated that you have an AI in your car that is driving for you half the time because it is safer than the actual human being. Because humans have weaknesses, there are short reaction times that are not sufficient, I think for the speeds in which we're driving. As opposed to George Washington was black. Speed is working. We make everything slower. We make things faster on the computer and basically have the computer drive the car because it

can react faster to anything that you can ever even think about. By the time it has reacted to a certain situation, it's already seen the outcome and has reacted on your behalf before you can even become aware of anything that's happening. So that's a good thing, right? It's AIs and things is a good thing. It just depends on how it works. All right, Adrian, I got to take a two minute break. If you can finish up, stay with us. We gotta leave. I understand what we're about to do.

Weird, weird that Alex wouldn't be mad about that, because it's directly opposed to his policies, that's for sure. Alex's preferences. He just screamed about how AI is just getting rid of all white people. Sure. And now he's like, but also we should have it in control of the life and death of all white people. Sure. And now he's like, but also we should have it in control of the life and death of all white people in the United States.

All people. Yeah, absolutely. And anyone near a road. But I mean, again, he only cares about. Sure. Sure. This is a problem because this is one of the wedge issues that should be the things that Alex is criticizing Elon Musk

about. And now you have this Adrian Dittman fella expressing Musk's stance on this, and maybe even a little stronger, right? That must go sometimes. Right. All right. And Alex is just like, Yeah, all right. Can you talk some more after the break? All right. So imagine, imagine Alex and Ditman's realities are both happening simultaneously. In five years, every non-white person will wake up to all white people's cars having run into each other and just a massive, country-wide blood out of white people gone and they just go, wow, I guess Alex was right. That's what we've got. Well, okay

So Alex I think what whatever you think about is if that's the logical end goal of his predictions I mean if both of them are true Whatever is true or is not Alex thinks that this is definitely you've on yeah All right final segment with Adrian Dittman and then we're gonna come back and take some more calls Or some more ex comments herements here at Royal Alex Jones. So thanks for your time Adrian. Anything else you'd like to add to the viewers and listeners out there? Yeah, where are we at?

We're just talking about the total sea change happening. There's definitely a old system going down, a new system coming in. This guy's just supposed to be a caller Who's calling in from X Twitter spaces? This is not supposed to be an interview but Alex is treating this like an interview because he thinks that it's Elon Musk Yeah, his co-host is Elon Musk now. That's what he's doing What would you like to say to the listeners and everyone the ships at sea? Yeah, he's doing a show with the richest man on the planet, And that's what he thinks is like I'm now the most powerful tweeter

Yeah, that's that's the way that Alex is experiencing this and it's pretty it's pretty clear There's a couple of other instances where there's like obvious winks that Alex is doing yeah Yeah, but but the way that he's treating him as especially as opposed to when you look at the way he's treating these other callers Right that are just like a great point. Got to get to the next guy. Yeah. He talks to him for a half fucking hour. That's absurd. Yeah. How do you that? That's the thing that I don't get. That's my that's my like, that's the line that I can't cross for it not being Elon is just like, you have to know that the only reason you exist in this space right now, pun, absolutely intended,

is because people think you are Elon Musk or because you are Elon Musk. You are getting the treatment from Alex that you are. You're on the show expounding on these beliefs or whatever solely because there's an impression that you're Elon Musk. Absolutely, there's no other aspect of you that is at all meaningful or valuable if you were Just adrian ditman and everyone knew you were adrian ditman and your voice sounded a little bit different alex would not give a single fuck about you no it doesn't matter it does not matter you

would hear you say that ai should be mandatory in cars and he would hang the fuck up on you. Absolutely. You would say shit or fuck and you would be gone. You'd use the delay button so you don't get in trouble with the the channel. Yeah, anything short of an engineer like the only engineer would be an engineer who is literally working on Gemini at this exact time and who is willing to go along with having like insider information about it. Like even even if it was somebody who worked for Gemini, they'd be like, um, maybe you're wrong. And you'd be like, Yuri, Rara, and then hang up. Well, Alex had one of the other callers that he gets,

so we're not going to listen to, is Zach Voorhees. He was that Google quote unquote whistleblower. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then came out that he talked frequently about the Zionist occupied government and other sort of anti-Semitic shit. Yeah. So he's kind of there because it's like, hey, this involves Google.

Maybe I can get a little bit of touch out of this. Right, right, it gets juice, yeah. It's very sad. But yeah. Everything on Twitter, it sounds really sad these days. Yeah, but here's a good thing about it. OK. You can say fuck on there.

All right. Yeah. That is good. Unlike other places. That's fair. I, that is unlike other places. That's fair Adrienne because every side I go to won't let me say fuck But when I go to type that on Twitter or X now it lets me so obviously that's been disengaged at X We're not gonna just say what I want Now that's the Star Trek ass future. We've been looking for

You could do that. I don't think you should do that. I think it's a bad idea one. Now that's the Star Trek ask future we've been looking for. You could do that. I don't think you should do that. I think it's a bad idea. I'm just saying I'm noticing that every platform won't let me say that. I need to use that term. I'm just saying suddenly I can type that on because if I'm on Google and I say f you CK I get duck when I'm on X I don't get duck I get the other word. I'm on X I don't get duck I get the other word yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah that definitely works on here still it's probably not good for you long-term to swear around on platforms so it doesn't

it doesn't lead to how regretted user on us but I mean you can do whatever it is that you want I mean if you have no pull you can do whatever so the absolute mark of freedom is autofill knowing that you're trying to swear. There's a way grown up kind of thing that's flying around here, it's great. Yeah. At the end there, Adrian says that you can say fuck on Twitter and it doesn't lead to quote, unregreted user minutes. That's a very strange phrase.

It's very specific and it's one that Elon uses to describe the goal of the new version of Twitter. When he tweeted, quote quote new Twitter will strive to optimize unregreted user minutes on December 29th, 2022 and has referenced this multiple times since great. This is an interesting dilemma that Adrian poses because the use of that term would lead one very much think this is definitely Musk under a fake name. He's using the same very specific term Musk used to describe time on Twitter, but the issue is that Musk's fans are weirdos and they take the terminology that he uses on,

they adopt it, and if Adrian is a real person, the one thing you can be sure of is that he is an obsessive Elon Musk fan. It's unfortunate because in many situations, this would be a real compelling piece of evidence, but in this case, you can really only deduce that this is either Musk or someone who has molded himself around Musk.

To a degree that the world takes concerned notice. That's an issue. Well, I think the reason the world takes concerned notice isn't because he is a Musk obsessive. It's because the implications of it actually being musk are high. Yeah, you know you have this person who is presumably one of the more powerful people in the world. Yeah, richest person in the world behaving who's spending his time piling around with Alex spreading bullshit racist conspiracies under a fake name on info wars. And the implication of that actually being him is very serious. Yeah, yeah

Yeah, this no one cares about Adrian Dittman person. No this this whole thing it's it is like It makes me mad at everybody but Elon Musk and Adrian Dittman regardless of whether or not they are separate or real. Mm-hmm. It's just like all of us Should know it's we've got too much. We've got too much history. We're all we have too much history that we can avail ourselves of at any point in time. We should all know like, oh, okay, we can't engage in this. This cannot be engaged in.

Yeah. Otherwise, otherwise there's just no point, right? And I think that that's part of the reason why I'm doing this. Yeah. Is because I'm not fully engaging with it, but it is interesting to engage with Alex's engagement with it. Right. Right. The the is he or isn't he is kind of fun to play around with in your head a little bit. Yeah. But but you know, making too strong of a claim either way. I'm not saying that you like

on the last episode you did. No, I was fucking around. Yeah, You know making too strong of a claim either way. I'm not saying that you like Fucking around yeah, obviously I didn't know anything or care Yeah, but the the the reality of how Alex takes this is is definitely worth noting Yeah, because in Alex's mind He's had Elon now be almost a regular guest on his show I mean and it might not be, but that he's doesn't matter because it matters is how Alex is experiencing it and how the audience is. Exactly. Yeah. And the audience, the audience is going to behave like Alex as though it is Elon Musk. So it doesn't even matter if it is or isn't because it's not like that

could actually break bad for Alex because that implies more access to Elon Musk which makes it even more suspicious that Alex isn't asking the kind of questions that the audience has about Elon to him. It makes it look like he's covering things up even more. Yeah. So that might be a negative ultimately for Alex. Yeah, yeah. You know, there is a certain part of me that listens to that clip of Alex being like,

it's good you can say fuck, and that maybe being Elon Musk, and just all of that together makes me feel like, you know, we are returning to the Stone Age. Like, we're gonna get back there. Let's, and maybe we should, you know? I just typed fuck in Google and it we should you know I just type fuck and Google and it loud it I don't know what

Alex is talking about I think he's just talking about on his phone sometimes I'm just so tired and text message yeah exactly it's just it's just text messages so Alex throws it to Adrian for the last word because of course that's what you do with caller no we're on hundreds of radio stations TV stages

it's why we have like 12 minutes of ads or whatever it is an hour I apologize for that but that's the way it is. I'm doing more and more shows that are commercial free Adrienne Dittman very popular person on acts everybody should follow him I appreciate you hold into the break. So you're very busy any other closing comments. You'd like to make Adrienne did miss busy are we concerned about Adrian Dittman is busy. Are we concerned about? Partially, I think what people need to consider is that information warfare is an attack on one's ability to recall and recount history. If you can control those aspects, you control everything. An attack on one's ability to recall and recount history. That sounds exactly like what Alex does.

It's a very succinct definition of In force. Well said, uh, dipman. Also that part of the beginning, isn't Alex apologizing that there are so many commercials? He's apologizing to Adrian for having to sit on in breaks while he's on the line. Alex definitely thinks that this is Elon. So he's imagining that he would be annoyed by the commercial brakes. Sorry, sir. Sorry, sir. We have to understand. We're on the radio. You're a very important man, yeah. You're so busy. Yeah. Yeah. It's ridiculous.

Yeah. So we have one last clip and it's Alex inviting himself onto Adrian's show. Sure, well of course. Adrian, I would love to come on your show anytime, because I see the great work you do. If you'd like to have me on, I'd love to come on and talk about free speech and cancel culture. Adrian, thank you so much for the time. Thanks for the time.

Thanks for having me. Thank you. All right, look, we got, and all the hosts and hosts in the fourth hour, now I take some of their time sometime, but J. Dyer is really smart. He goes off the own source documents to Globalist. I don't want to cut a damn,

but I promise to get to more of these comments and questions, so we'll skip the break coming up. We'll skip the next network break, so J. Dyer gets more time. We'll skip these next night where breaks. So Jadar gets more time. Skip these breaks to make up for the fact that I spent a half hour talking to this guy that I think is Elon Musk. I mean, I'm going to cut into the fourth hour host's time. I need to talk to these other people because I would have gotten to them. But the guy that I'm pretending as Elon Musk was here. So that took up half an hour of my time. I'm behind.

Yeah. Let's go ahead and knock some of these out. It's ridiculous. Yeah, it really does feel like this is the moment that we are facing in, like that we've predicted for the longest time about deep fakes and shit like that. Like this is the true confrontation of it, where it is like, it's not like Obama giving a speech where some people

want to believe it or whatever this is Alex 100% believing regardless of its truth or whether it needs to be true mm-hmm that this is Elon Musk well and the awareness that we have this technology and stuff yeah makes it so this could conceivably be true or false and it could see if it could conceivably be both it could beivably be both. It could be that Adrian Dittman is a real person that Elon Musk has talked to. Like it is entirely possible that Elon Musk

talked to this person and then there was an AI bot that sometimes talks like this. It is entirely possible that none of those things are real. Like, but because with the distance for us is so great, we can never truly know. There is no ultimate reality to this, which is jarring and difficult. Now I think that the only thing that really drives this into the ah, this has got it, we got to do we have talked about this is the dynamic that Alex is so defensive about Elon Musk at the

beginning of this and people criticizing like hey you should why you supporting this maybe you should be more critical him realizing or not realizing accidentally saying I take it criticism of Elon personally yep yep because I look at him and I see me 100% oh this kind of a breakdown and shit that's going on at the beginning then fake Elon calls in and Alex behaves that way. It's very much like there's he's got problem. It is. It is. I would say that it is entirely possible and you know, just tell me if I'm a little bit off the wrong track. Um, Alex might have some daddy issues.

His dad won't be a guest on the show. So that would be an issue. No, I don't know. I think that who knows what goes on in the minds of men. Sure, sure. Anyway, I just wanted to talk about this a little bit. Have a little wacky Wednesday. Sure.

It's sort of wacky Wednesday. Anyway, we'll be back for another episode, but until then, we have a website. It is based entirely upon the question of whether or not something is real. So that's very wacky Wednesday. And it's either someone who's doing an impression of a human or it's somebody who it's a robot.

Or it's an alien from Mars. Could be. Could be. Knowledgefight.com. We're also on Blue Sky. We are on Blue Sky at Knowledge Fight. Yeah be, could be Pleiadian. Knowledgefight.com. Yeah, we're also on Blue Sky. We are on Blue Sky at Knowledge Fight. Yeah, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neil.

I'm the old DZX Clark. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. That's the noise that the alien from Mars would make. Beep, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. We know they're talking boops. It's true. Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo! And now here comes the sex robot.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.