Knowledge Fight - #91: October 11, 2017

Episode Date: October 16, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about some of the weirdness that occurred on the Oct. 11th episode of The Alex Jones Show, but that weirdness could not possibly match the weirdness that happens when Larry Nichols calls in to the show with a complicated story dealing with Hard Rice, jingles, and Linda Bloodworth-Thomas.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex, I'm a person of color, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Dan, is there a twist today? There is a couple twists.

Is there a big twist? There is a couple twists. Is there a solid twist? One of the twists is I know a lot about Alex Jones and his cohorts. And all I know is what you have told me and I've forgotten most of that shit. Today we are drinking Arizona prescription energy, that is our sponsor for the day. That's what we need. So, hey Jordan, today we're going to be going over the October 11th episode.

That would be great if we just did a complete pivot and we were like, fucking fools you bitches. Oh, we fooled anybody, we haven't said it, oh you guys. I totally did. You just put it out on Twitter. Absolutely. Before that we could have plausibly denied that there was anything going on. We absolutely could not have. I could have.

I could have been like fuck y'all. Okay, fair enough. I don't give a shit, but we are going to go over the October 11th episode in some fashion or another, but there's something special going on that you have cooked up. Yeah, I called him earlier today and who's him? We haven't said anything. Oh, guys, we're going to call Larry Nichols. He has agreed to talk to us for at most an hour, which I don't know if we'll be able

to keep from screaming at his face that long over the phone yet, but yes. But yeah, so I talked to him earlier today. We had a very congenial conversation where, and he tried to explain to me how the impeachment process works as though I was fucking 12 and it's complicated. It's not. All right. The house votes. And then if they are like, yeah, let's do that.

The Senate votes. It's very simple. Right. But it's complicated. It's not even really going to be a trial if it does happen. They're going to be like, hey, you saw him be president. He's not going to be president. No, no, no.

And it won't happen because the Republicans are fucking cowards, which even he fucking knows because his threats are so goddamn empty and full of bullshit. Well, we go back to the Saul Alinsky tactics that we talked about yesterday. Right. One of them, the threat is we're always worse than the actual follow through. Absolutely. He knows that because he's a salinsky item as we've. Damn you, Dan.

So Larry Nichols, like you said, he agreed to talk to us for an hour. There's no way it's going to go that long now. He also said, I think your offer was half an hour. I also predict he's going to hang up with us pretty quick. My prediction is he is going to try and worm his way out of literally everything. Well, like he will fight with us for an hour just to avoid admitting a goddamn thing. And here is Larry Nichols right now, guys, and then we will get to the episode proper. Let's do this.

Larry, how are you today? How are you? Oh, I'm doing just great. Just to let you know, we are live on the air right now. We are recording this. I'm sorry. I didn't know whether you were going to call me or I was to call you. You are right on time, my friend.

So real quick, before we even get into this, there's one thing that I do want to kind of get upfront, which is that we're going to be asking you a bunch of questions about your past with the Clintons and a lot of the claims that you've made. And you've said a lot of things that are untrue. So what we'd like to do is, you know, just have a conversation where you feel comfortable telling us what really happened in all of those things. Is that okay with you? Yeah.

All right. All right. Real quick then, let's start at the beginning. What work did you do for Bill Clinton? I started out helping, actually working for CAC and with Stevens. And they were Jordan in that day, and Arkansas, they were the king makers. They were ultra, ultra rich on Arkansas, Louisiana gas. They had the largest brokerage firm outside of Wall Street, anywhere in the world, right

in Little Rock. And if you were going to do anything in politics, you had to go through them from the dog catcher to governor. Gotcha. And they hired me to meet this young guy that they wanted to make the youngest governor in the history of the country, and that was of course Bill Clinton. I was thinking, I was thinking Dougie Hauser, but that's fine. Yeah, so you started working for Bill, what year was that?

Around that would have been 76 maybe. 76. Don't get me the line about dates, but that's not as close. It was his first run for governor. Okay. Hey Larry, I understand that before that, I'm Dan, I'm the co-host of the show. Dan, how you doing, buddy? Pretty good.

Thanks for joining us. I understand that before that you were in marketing, is that correct? Well, yeah, I had a commercial production company, which was called On Air Productions, and we did deals for companies all over the country. Okay, and then how did that turn into your job for Bill? With the key makers. They're just a world of weird. Because I developed a name for being able to do gingles and come up with ideas for customers

and such, and I did a lot of work for the Stevens Company. They owned several banks. At that time, the laws in Arkansas were like there couldn't be branch banks in other cities, so every town had their own bank. And of course, the Stevens Brothers just got on the bank in every town. So I would come in and take over little banks and handle their advertising, set them up, do all of that, and that got me involved in more than just radio. But I had to do newspaper, and then ended up having to get into TV in the major market, Little Rock.

And so the cause of all of that, I ended up doing work for Parks and Tourism, Coca-Cola, Pepsi-Cola, and the Stevens had a lot of confidence in me. And so when they said we got somebody for you to meet, they paid me $5,000 to meet Bill Clinton. I met him at a restaurant called John Barley Corns in Little Rock. So, sorry, real quick. So they paid you $5,000 just to meet him. To meet him and give them my assessment of what he was like, what I thought he'd be as a candidate. And what was that?

Well, it was kind of tough to meet him. I met him there, and I'm going to report to you what I reported back to the stairs. It was kind of hard to talk to the guy because every time I turned around, he was pinching the waitress in the butt. He never really talked about anything. He was chasing women all over the place. It was the 70s. I'm sorry? It was the 70s. It was the 70s, but he was running hot.

And he told me in that first meeting that he kind of liked to get out and get around me. He really liked the perks of being a governor when he got to be a governor. He liked the perks. So in the very first meeting you had with Bill Clinton, Bill told you that he liked to screw around, basically. He said, like, the perks, and he pinched the waitresses on the butt, they'd get mad, run off, and then he'd get up, and I'd turn around and couldn't find him. And then he'd be hugging and grabbing some waitress by the boobs. I mean, it was just a nightmare. So why did you start working for him, then, if that was that? Money.

Money. Yeah, I went to the Stevens and they said, what do you think? I said, well, I got a little check in. I met him. And I got to be honest with you guys. This guy's a pathological liar. I sat in the hour or so that we met. I don't think he told me the truth about a damn thing. He's a hopeless womanizer. I mean, this guy's obsessed. And in case y'all don't know what you was telling me, in case y'all don't know, this guy's into marijuana and probably cocaine. I've spent some of my life doing marijuana.

Yeah, so are we. We're cool with that. Hey, at the end, you couldn't be not in the deep south. Larry. Not in the middle south. He's in the deep south. That was not cool. I could see how that would be a problem with, like, the political world and stuff. Larry, this was during the... Sorry. So, you think you can't handle a case or something like that?

And I said I did not say I couldn't get him elected. I just told you what he was. So did you function as his campaign manager then? We called it Handler. And this was during the first time he was governor of Arkansas. First time, yes, sir. So then he did not become governor contiguously. He lost the second time and then became governor again in 83? Well, he actually did. We got him elected.

And then Bill got too big for his riches. In 81? And yes, or whatever year that was, his first term. During his first term, he just went wild. He went crazy and then he made the ultimate mistake, dealing with the people from Vietnam. And he went against the Stevenches. And when he did, Mr. Jack and Mr. Wick called me in and they said, you know, excuse my language, they said son of a bitch, don't listen to him, stop breaking.

And when he runs somebody against him and I said, well, who's that? And they said Frank White. Now, Frank White was a Republican. And in that day in Arkansas, he was the whole Republican party. There were no Republicans in Arkansas. And he was a buffoon, a complete blithering idiot. Who are the boat people from Vietnam? That was when there were all these Vietnamese that escaped Vietnam when we pulled out.

And they were trying to find places for them. There was a place called Fort Cathy in Fort Smith, Arkansas, which was an old World War II base or army post. And so Bill had to bring an idea that he could put them there. And Mr. Stevens and Jack and Wick, they didn't want them in the state. Now he leaves and Bill said to help with it and he put them in. And so I went to work for Frank White and we beat Bill. Okay, so you went to work for Bill, then you went to work for Frank White, and then you went back to work for Bill?

Yes. Why did you do that? Well, remember, you said I worked for Bill. Actually, I worked for the Stevens brothers. Okay. The Stevens brothers told me who and what to do. So they said beating, here's our candidate. So we ran in, beat Bill.

During that two years, Bill made up. And that's when Bill changed. That's when Bill Clinton changed. It was during that period of time, remember, well, let me say this, when we first took him on, his host for her first turn, Hillary would not take his name. They were married. She would not let anybody call her Hillary Clinton. She would not take his name.

That was a problem back then. So when he came back to the Stevens, got on his hands and knees, apologized, they took him back, everything changed. He became a company man then. Then he sort of straightened up and flew right. So Bill sold out. Although she hated it. And we got elected again.

So Bill sold out basically in 82. Okay. Okay. So then you stopped working for Bill in 1988. Why did that happen? When you were working in the marketing department of the Arkansas Finance Development Authority. Right. Well, I got there.

I got involved with the Nicaraguan Resistance to Contras. And I was running around down there doing stupid stuff. And I got some ad down there that I was getting old, couldn't run, jump, leak tall buildings in a single bound. So when I got back from one of the adventurers, my family instructed me, I was getting too old for that racket and I needed to get a straight job. What racket? Working with the Contras and kind of in the jungle and doing crazy stuff.

So did you actually go to Vietnam doing crazy stuff in the jungle? Not Vietnam. Sorry. Nicaragua. Sorry. Yes, I did. Okay. Sure did.

Could you tell us a little bit of that crazy stuff? Well, basically from getting there until you leave Scragy. How to get on the plane in either New Orleans, usually New Orleans or Florida, Miami. And in Miami, I'm being with a group called Southern Air. They would take me in and I would jump out of the plane. And then if you went out in New Orleans, you went out with flying tigers. And we would go in and we would deliver hard and soft rice.

Now, those are the cold words for hard rice, these weapons, ammunition, et cetera. Soft rice was humanitarian. And what, how I got involved, if you remember, I went out in the North in Pondexter, got tailed and I were in Contra here. Then Reagan put me on the ground in Nicaragua, replacing North, and he put General Jackson up, replacing Pondexter going around the country, raising independent private money. Well, how did, how did Reagan put you down in Nicaragua? You didn't, you didn't stop working for Bill until 1988.

No, I was still with Bill. Right. Then I came just to be, you know, T.D. Wise, what I call T.D. Wise, and part of what I did with my chamber company, you had to have a business where you could be gone for a few minutes, if necessary, at a time, in the ready morning wiser. So my jingle business was perfect. You know, I claim I was going to Dallas or New York or whatever. And in fact, I would bust down to Nicaragua and help Henry K. and the boys figure out

what to do. And then I would make sure that the hard rice or soft rice went to where it was supposed to go. Okay, so if I understand this correctly, you were, you had a jingle business and then directly from there you were recruited into extrajudicial Nicaraguan operations? That's wild. How in God's name did that happen? Did the Stevens, did the Stevens brothers have something to do with that?

Very much. Stevens brothers, they had home and gas properties in Nicaragua. They were very heavily invested in Nicaragua. And they needed one of their guys to take care and make sure of their investments and properties. And of course, you got to understand Mr. Witt Stevens was a big to-do pop of the group with the Democratic National Party and Committee. Jack Stevens was the big guy with the top of the people in the Republican National

Committee. Okay, so here's the problem I have with that is that their interests make sense or whatever. That's fine. But the idea that like they would have you taking care of all of their interests based on a slight bit of advertising work seems very strange. Yeah, that's like if Obama had the guys from the Sonic commercials go run Iran for a while. It just seems very wild. Yeah, it had to be there.

Actually, it was awfully wild. It was just a job. It was just a job. All right. There. Well, so because of that working as a hand for Bill, you know, I didn't stay with him 24 seven once he got elected. I would be, you know, they needed the decision made and they wanted me to go and get him

convinced to do this that or the other or to stop him from doing this that or the other. That's the way it started. The way it ended up was I ended up fixing it up with women and covering up for the women he was with and trying to keep his running around cocaine and everything else. Make sure that didn't get depressed. All right, that that sounds a little bit farfetched. Man, I don't know why. I mean, I mean, you okay.

So. All right. All right. Let's I mean, that's that's bananas. If true, that is one of the most implausible realities. I think I can imagine. Fair enough, fair enough. So the public version and all the information that sort of is verifiable through sourced

reports were that you worked there at the Arkansas Financial Development Authority and that you made a bunch of long distance calls to Nicaragua. And that's why Bill asked you to resign. So that that part is that's true. That was not the truth at all. But that's the way it came out. How is it? How is it that all of this reporting corroborates one side of the story and only you is

supporting your side? You know, if you look at the media today, do you see the bias, say for Fox News, Fox News, there is nothing good the Democrats do. Nothing. But now if you watch ABC NBC, CBHC in the end, MSNBC, there's nothing good the Republicans do. Right. You've got to take everything.

Yeah, of course. We're all adults. You've got to take everything with a grain of salt, certainly. In Arkansas, remember that's the only world I had to deal with. Arkansas. And Nicaragua. Well, yeah. But the Stevens, if I'm talking about as far as Bill was concerned, the Stevens brothers

controlled everything in Arkansas. So if the Arkansas Democrat were about to break a story where they called Bill Clinton screwing the farmer's daughter, the Stevens would send me in and I would say to the Democrat, I don't think you ought to do that because if you do, we're going to pull five car dealers and six banks advertising and you're going to be in trouble. So the owners of the paper, even though the journalists might get upset, the owners could plush just about anything. And that's what we did for years.

They just controlled the media. What you see today in Washington was in a smaller way. Arkansas was its own little third-grade country back then. Okay. So then let me ask you this question. In 2013, you went on a radio show and claimed you killed people for the Clintons. Was that... Yeah, I was drugged up.

You were drugged up. So... Yeah, I had gone. I hear me on this because I've tried to straighten this out a minute, a few times. I had gone and had eye surgery. I had just come in. They had used a drug on me called Berset. When I got home, the phone rang.

My wife left. She went back to work. I sat down. The phone rang. The lady came home. And what was her name? Pete's been telling. I had done her show a couple of times.

She said, Pete, won't you on the air? And I said, I don't think I should. And I told her I had just had surgery and pretty drugged up. Next thing I know, here's Pete. We're talking. I think we're off the air. He didn't do what you did. Say, you know, you're alive.

But it wouldn't have mattered. What I was trying to explain to Pete was we had a program called Kill them when they're young. When they're young. That was a play we used, which meant if somebody, for example, if Bill screwed the farmer's daughter and the farmer was fixing to start blabbing, we would go in. I would go in or Morris or the guy or somebody would go in. And we'd explain to the guy. And if he looked like he was really fixing to talk, we would destroy him.

You know, we'd find out about him. Who he was screwing. So the killing was metaphorical. His farm payments, whatever we could find out. And if we didn't find anything, we made it up. Interesting. So if you're admitting to saying that you made stuff up then, I mean, that kind of makes it hard to believe what you're saying now, right?

Do you see the... Jordan, let me tell you something, man. This is what's going to kill you. I really don't care what you believe. That's fair. I truly believe that, yes. I barely care what I believe. I don't come on this program claiming to be anything other than the sorryest scum of the earth.

You have ever known. That's fair. Larry, we're not trying to come down on you. We're not... That's all right. I'm listening. Hear me out. I did.

I have. So there's nothing... You know, that's one of the things that the main national media had trouble with when I was fighting Bill. When he was president, they'd come in and they'd come in and they'd heard something. I'd say to the media, hell, you think that's bad? You should have come to me. I'll tell you stuff I've done. It's a lot worse.

Okay, well then, in that case, so if you admit to having made up stuff whenever there wasn't any information, would you say that when you said that Barack Obama is a secret Muslim, you made that up to smear his name? No. I said that's what I did. That's what I did, guys. Okay, so when did you stop doing that? January the 16th, 1989. When your family told you that you were getting too old?

No. This is after I had... He didn't ask me the trick question, what happened between Bill Clinton and I? When I was in Oklahoma. I'm not really listening. And all the local arrow, he was the head of the director. You can check it out. He kept hearing this drugs for guns.

They didn't have drugs for guns. If we'd have had drugs, cocaine, we would have given it to the war wounded. We had nothing. Right. He asked me if I could come back to the stage and find out what on earth where it was just coming from. I came back. I was working at the Arkansas Development Finance story. I was marketing director.

Being the type man I was with Bill, they had two sets of books, which was not uncommon. It was... Sure. When it needed the cover and protection of being a state agency, it was a state agency. When it came time to shield money and have money and give Bill's buddies loans, it was a private corporation. Right. When I was going through the books, I kept noticing that last year Bill Clinton's best friend, the guy that every day got one or two coffee to go with his office,

and last year had a huge candy dish full of this white powder. It was cocaine. Had it on his desk for everybody to see. That sounds crazy. Well, it's also... I mean, all this stuff is great. I don't doubt. I mean, I might.

But look, the thing is... The thing is, when I started looking in, what I found was that there was this damn airstrip in the Arkansas, and it was bringing in $100 million a month of cocaine. From where I'm sitting Larry, it just seems very convenient that you're bringing that into all this when you admit that you were involved in Nicaragua. You know, it seems like you're maybe... You know, once again, but I can't help you. I'll just tell you what I tell you. Do you believe it or don't?

Hey, you can't get on my back either way. That's fair. I mean... I'll tell you this. I did find it. It was in the books at the agency I worked. Dan Lassiter was hiding and laundering the money through straw sales through his bond, and finding agency, getting bonds from Ed.

And that was how they were running the money. Right. Now, here's my question to you real quick before you keep going any further. Now, when you are describing this story, this is happening at the same time that you are convicted of fraud, and you had to declare bankruptcy. Where did you get fraud out of that? Well, no, it was theft by deception. They were facing charges all around Arkansas, and...

Now, that was when I came out against Bill, and they started doing the Clinton Roast to me. That was before that. This was in the lead up to when you were... You're talking about another Larry Nichols. That was not me. Oh, we're talking about you, buddy. Be that as it may. Then it was a case I didn't know nothing about.

Which was not uncommon. When I was with Bill, it wouldn't matter what we did. You couldn't do anything to me. That's fine. So now you're describing Bill Clinton as some sort of all-knowing power that can just black people at will. Don't you see how this kind of massive conspiracy just doesn't hold up? Well, especially because you're also saying that it's these banking brothers. No, not you, because you don't understand the world we lived in then.

Jordan, then you don't have to believe any of this. That's fine with me. That's fine. I lived it. Okay. Let's talk about the stuff I lived how much. All right. All right.

Well, then let me... Let's switch gears, then. So, just recently, in 2015, you told Alex Jones that Obama wanted to be the last president, because if you're the last president, you become king. That's right. Under the FEMA provisional government system, yes. Why do you think that's true? Because I spent two years working with General Tommy Franks.

We worked on the FEMA provisional committee. And the FEMA provisional government is what everybody in Washington... I don't know who you know with anybody, but anybody that's been around Washington for the past... Washington for the past 25, 30 years knows that for years and years and years, the whole thing comes down to if this country goes into a state of disarray, then all of a sudden there are two things that can happen that trigger with the president only for putting us into FEMA provisional government. One, of course, is some kind of attack or national disaster.

The other is if five major cities have five major riots at one time, the president can push a button and declare FEMA provisional government. That's demonstrably untrue. It's not. See here again, Jordan. I just killed a green living. I mean, I don't know who's watching. Yeah, I live in Chicago.

How many years have you spent in Washington? I have spent no years in Washington. How many years have you spent with governors in the United States congressmen? How many years have you done that? I have done none of that either. I've read a lot of these FEMA camp and FEMA documents. I've read a lot of those. All of those FEMA documents, though, are public information.

So you're saying that there's a secret set of FEMA documents that we don't know about. I'm saying that the FEMA provisional government triggering plan is as real as the chair you're sitting in. It's just that real bad. Now, there's a lot of things. This just kills me. This one kills me, Jordan Van. And I love you guys. Hell, this is fun.

What gets me is there are people that run around and they say they know that Washington is a city full of secrets. Our government is a government full of secrets. And you, say, in Chicago, can go on the internet wherever it is you go. And you can just trip through and find out all of the secrets. I think we're just basing this on things we've read, things that we understand. And the idea that the president becomes king and all the congresspeople become dukes, it's just very fanciful. That's not how the world works. Let me ask you this.

Why would somebody who almost does a congressman now make a year? Roughly $250,000. $250,000? Does it make sense to you that somebody would spend $20-30 million to get that job? Well, yeah. All they want is tax cuts for the rich. They want the powers, what you're saying. Well, and sneaky money that's not in their salary.

Yeah. And then you consider all of the parachutes that they're taking on consulting a lobbying job later on. It's not becoming a duke. Yeah. It's not some sort of feudal society that they're trying to build. But you see, all of that is muddied up into a whole world that I'm trying to tell people about. And I know, Justin Dan, I'm nobody when you stand flat-footed. You look at another normal human being and you tell them about the theme of the digital government system and plan.

You don't think I haven't seen eyes roll back in the back of the head? I bet. You don't think I don't think they know I'm a nut? That's a good point. I think everybody's pretty aware. Yeah. It's not easy, guys. It's not easy telling what has to be told that I think has to be told.

Now, I can be wrong. And I'll tell you this. It cost me and my family everything to do this. You know, when I was with Bill and the Stevens Brothers, hey, buddy, it was Fat City. Fat City. Well, then if we're going to talk about the cost of things, would you say that right now part of your income, if not a lot of it, comes down to, you know, people believing what you're saying? It comes down to me telling people what I believe, what I know.

That's it. Also, what do you got? You got people that buy ads for your program or you've got people that contribute to your program. No, we have jobs. They believe you, right? We have nine to five jobs and a couple of jackoffs who think we're funny. That's weird. That's what we got, Larry.

That's all right. But they're people. What I'm saying is they're people that listen to you. They're people that listen to you. And you may be right. You may not be, but they believe in you. Well, see, guys, all I can do, Jordan, is tell what I know. And when I tell it, you know what?

I'm clean. Right. Well, then here's my question. If you were afraid of Obama trying to become the last president and then becoming king, essentially, are you not worried about Trump doing that? I'm worried about anybody doing that, you bitch. Okay. So would you say that Trump is, if Trump, so here's the thing I want to know.

Knowing what we know about Trump and his actions currently, it seems far more likely that Trump is going to try and pull that off. It is, if it is real, then Obama ever would. Right, because he's not a secret motive. It is within his power to do it, yes. And, oh, this is fun. But then again, it's within his power as it was Obama, as it would have been in the old days. You know?

Hey, push the button for Luke. It's within his power. If becoming king is part of the FEMA provisional powers, it stands to reason that FEMA, as it is right now after these hurricanes, we've seen that they don't do the best job necessarily. They are not necessarily the most effective organization that we have within our government. It seems like them installing a kingship might be difficult when they can't get supplies where they need to be. And then you'd need the support of the military.

True, they would have to turn against the entire concept of democracy. Yes, there is a plan. It's called the FEMA provisional government plan. It's as real as when I told people that states have rainy day funds, so they tell you they're broke, right? States tell you they've got nothing. Wow. But there is a hidden account called a rainy day account, and every state has them.

I don't know about Illinois states or Chicago states. We don't know too much about Washington, but we live in Chicago, so we know when people don't have any goddamn money. So believe me when I say, if there really were a rainy day fund, we would have gone past it. When my cockaby was governor, you know, the preacher in my cockaby, I went all over the state when I was telling people, guys, we're not broke. There's a rainy day fund that had like $11 million in it, which is not big, but you're not broke. I don't remember what it was. Something had to be done.

He would literally tell the people of Arkansas that there was no such account. I was turned down four years later after he was gone. It did come out that we do have a rainy day fund. But a rainy day fund is a long way away from having a FEMA provisional government. That's very, very different. Not really. Okay. What?

Not really. I mean, being a governor is a long distance from being president. Apparently it's very close to being a duke. I'm telling you, you know, Washington has secrets that the two of you, 99.9% of the people in this country do not know. I'm sure of that. I believe that 100%. Now, whether you believe me or the FEMA provisional government,

I don't. Plan that it does exist. To be quite honest, Jordan and Dan, I don't mean to suddenly toward you, but I don't give two hoots and a tinkers whether you believe it. Oh, yeah, no. You can curse if you'd like to. We say fuck all the time. Well, I'm just telling you, look.

All right. I think I gave a shit about you. There we go. Now we're on board. So here's another question for you. When you go on Alex's show, you willingly go along with the whole globalist idea. How much of that do you actually believe? When I go on with Alex and Alex Jones has been very good to me over the years.

When I go on Alex Jones, I talk specifically about the issue that I bring forward. I do not go on Alex if you watch and notice. Oh, he do. What is it? I don't go on Alex and talk about general subjects. For example, when he got involved with a story about pizza game, you didn't see me talking about it. I don't know about it. That's good.

You lucked out on that one. I don't go on. The mean is not true. The mean is true. I don't talk about it. Well, what you did talk about one time was that you believed Hillary Clinton practiced black magic. No. See, that's where you guys just get a little bit close, but you still missed the cookie.

What I said was that I made the arrangements out of the state budget, which later, by the way, was backed up publicly by Larry Patterson and Roger Perry, two of the state troopers, only as security reasons. Is this that trooper-gate stuff? The arrangements for Hillary to go to LA once every month, six weeks, whatever. I had to arrange the funds for her to go meet with Linda Bloodworth-Thompson, Harry Bloodworth-Thompson. From Designing Women. Designing Women.

Love it. It's a great show. As we were told, Hillary would go to a witches' church. Larry, quick follow-up. If you listen to Alex Jones' program closely, you will hear me say, I don't know what they do in a witches' church. Quick follow-up. Linda Bloodworth-Thompson from Designing Women was there.

Did Delta Burke ever go or Meshack Taylor? I'm curious. I liked that show when I was a kid. Hello? Yeah. Great day. I was just asking if Meshack Taylor ever went to the witches' church with Hillary. You there?

You still there? I'm sorry about that. We're having a little bit of an issue. It's just on my phone. So, really, really quick. I mean, here's my last question to you. Wait a minute. Let me mention one thing before you do that.

Sure. They had a Jordan. Did you hear me mention Linda Bloodworth-Thompson's name and say she and Hillary went to a witches' church? Yes. Do you not think if I were Linda Bloodworth-Thompson and some idiot named Larry Nichols was making such a direct statement about me, don't you think they might want to sue me to get me to stop the faming? No, because that would just cause more attention to come your way.

That's not a good argument. Okay. I think that's probably, they might have better uses of their time. In the same way, Larry, you did threaten to blackmail Congress recently, and no one's going to sue you for that. Congress people have much better uses of their time than hunting down these sort of lawsuits that probably could be won based on it being very... Can I give you a better piece of why they won't sue me?

Sure. Because you're going to blackmail them? No, because of discovery. Oh. Right. That would... Do you mean the information that you would otherwise use to blackmail them would then become public?

Yes, it would. Okay. Larry, Larry, Larry. Larry, if that argument worked, no one would ever get charged with blackmail. Hey, I'll tell you what, Daniel. Daniel, you're in Jordan. Yep. Here's something you can do, and I'll make a commitment right now.

Okay. When we get close, and when we come to the time that the Robert Mueller gets his grand jury to go to the house, representatives... You did also threaten to blackmail him. ...and ask for an impeachment when they try that. If that don't bring out stuff for a couple of Republican house members... Like their witches? They're like maybe whatever's on their file.

Whatever, I've got them. And I don't destroy him. I mean, destroy him bad, but he's bad. When I will come on this program, and y'all can have the time of year I've... You know, life at me. I think you're... I think we have a misunderstanding of what our goals are, and I think... But be that as it may, Larry, thank you for talking to us.

I think we got to get a move on with stuff, but we really appreciate your time. It does mean a lot. Well, thank you, guys, and I'm sorry I don't sound all that great, but... See you then. You're just fine. All righty, you have a good night. You too, boy. All right.

So guys, we are now... Post call. Look... Fucking fuck that dude! Well, here's... He really believes all of that bullshit! Yeah, and the issue... Fuck me!

And the issue becomes, too, like, so much stuff is completely undisprovable, and that whole idea of you had to be there in the wild 70s in Arkansas. Oh, yeah. You don't know what it was like. In the 70s, people were blackmailing people all over the fucking place. And you couldn't do cocaine in the South. Look, there's all that sort of stuff, and it's like, all right, fine. That's the narrative that you want to tell.

I obviously wasn't in the 70s in Arkansas. Right. It's very difficult to get around the idea that, like, you were a functionary low-level ad man, and then you got put in charge of drug-running and gun-running operations in Nicaragua and the youngest president ever's handler. Like, it's just all... Like, and his rebuttal to that is just, well...

Okay, so, do you know what's crazy? It's like... The guy who wrote Ba-da-ba-ba-ba... I'm loving it. ...is in charge of North Korean spy operations right now. Yeah, he's a deep cover. Fucking... Well, but here's the thing.

I think, and I want to say this to the chat room, please don't ever ask us to call him again. That was fucking bullshit. I'm pissed off. It's really difficult for me to handle, too, because the way our phone and mic system is working, that, you know, it's just... It's difficult for me to get involved,

and Larry just loves to fucking talk. Yeah, I know. That I couldn't really get anything in, and there's like follow-ups and rebuttals I would have liked to make, and it's just incredibly difficult. There's no way his timeline works out in terms of... Not at all.

In terms of stuff that I know he was doing after he got fired from the Clinton's campaign, there's literally no way any of that stuff matches up. He started working with a guy named Larry Case and trying to sell stories about these women to tabloid papers. Right. Larry Case recorded all of his conversations

and gave them to the press after he and Larry Nichols had a huge falling out. I will put a link up later to a salon article about this, and it's fascinating. You're never going to get what you want out of a phone call like that. Well, and not least of which, my biggest issue there is... We just let him ramble,

and that might not be the best thing ever, but I got a little bit of a cold. I was really hoping that if we... I was hoping that sooner or later, he would drop the facade. Why? Because he can't fucking keep doing that. We know it's not true.

He genuinely believes that, though. So I guess, of course, there's no point in doing that shit. Well, if you have... He's a slimy piece of shit who clearly killed people in Nicaragua or whatever the fuck he wants to believe. Well, but also if you have 30 years of follow-up or 30 years of building in this narrative,

then it's going to be very difficult for you to give it up at any point. I think that you just live inside that now. And I don't want to say... I mean, I don't want to say that he's crazy or anything like that that's not my interest, but just I don't... I do. He's crazy.

All right. I obviously don't believe most of that, and now your name is Justin, apparently, in the chat room. Fair enough. So now, after that's out of the way... All right. Listen, Justin. Yeah. So now that's out of the way, let's get to the episode. Now that we have a thoroughly unsatisfying interview

with that piece of shit... Yeah, it's a little blue ballsy, but I'm glad we did it. And I wish we would have pushed a little bit harder, but it is what it is. That's why I told you you should have. It's always going to be different or difficult when you're having a conversation with someone

who is pretty well-versed in marketing and propaganda, has a lot of experience in it. Did you see the way he kept trying to butter us up the same way that he fucking always... Listen, I love you guys, and you can believe what you want to believe. And the appeal to ignorance is always not very... It's a roadblock.

It's like, how long have you been in Washington? I don't believe you've been there much, but at the same time, it is what it is. The idea that you go from a fucking jingle business to a huge player in Nicaragua is fucking bananas. Yeah, the only way I buy that is with quite a bit more detail that's been left out.

Yeah, no kidding. We delivered hard rice and soft rice, which is... My guess is that is something that he heard or read one time in a mystery novel, and he was like, now it's in my narrative. Hanging out with a VFW haul. Yeah, exactly.

All right, so here's the first clip from today's show. We don't have a whole lot. We're not going too deep into the episode, but I just pulled some stuff. It was a boring show. Alex is just on a whole big, hey, I've been totally right about Las Vegas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's just claiming responsibility for being right about everything. Because it turns out that the Mandalay Bay, the hotel, they are saying that the timeline that the police are suggesting now is not maybe accurate. So Mandalay Bay,

spokespeople come out and they say this timeline that says that the guy shot a security guard at the hotel six minutes before he opened fire might not be accurate. And the reason that they might be saying that is because since the shooting, they've lost billions in stock.

Their company is really imploding. And one of the reasons is because it seems unsafe. And the idea that the shot a security guard in six minutes elapsed, and then he starts shooting everybody, that only feeds into that collapsed spiral that the business is going into.

It's in their best interest to say that they don't agree with the narrative even if they have no evidence that that's the case. That's their best PR move. And Alex is just like, boop, boop, boop. Anyway, here's a clip where we're going to start about Harvey Weinstein and how he's into scat.

I mean, I said earlier in the week that Weinstein guaranteed like to humiliate women. Now, that's what they're all like in Hollywood. It's not a crystal ball. It's like once you realize these types, I used to read a lot of historical books

when I was a teenager. And I read some criminology books, not just Pulp Fiction, but some serious ones about how the police assess them on profile. And I used to think, oh, people are more diverse than that. There's no way because nice people are diverse in their way

than things they do, not criminals and others. There's like maybe 15 different types and man, you just learned the groups, the types and it's like how a wild hog acts, how a white-tailed deer acts, how a puma acts, how a moose acts, you know, how a squirrel

acts, how a buzzard acts, how a fox acts. And you just, well, you know how how a Hollywood executive pedophile devil works for acts. You see, they want to humiliate children and innocents. Well, young, beautiful women,

it's not about putting them on a pedestal, it's about, you know, using the bathroom on the floor and making them eat it. Oh, you want that starring role? You want 20 million? Call me God. Get on the ground and call that God.

I'm Harvey Weinstein. You're not just going to worship me, you're going to you're going to worship what I do on the ground. You understand? Listen. Listen! You've done that before. You're going to go with us to a little cabin in the woods next weekend and see what we really do.

Because now that you're here and you do this, you're going to see what we really do. You think it's just broads? Fake laugh. Fake laugh. Yeah, I mean, he's really enjoying that too much. You know, the playing that character, you're going to watch that movie shit.

I mean, Harvey Weinstein did some awful, awful stuff. At least he didn't defend him this time. That's true. That's true. That's a nice twist. At least he's like, hey, it is bad whenever women are mistreated. Except he's more like, it's only bad whenever Hollywood people mistreat

women. Well, no, but even in that clip, he's still doing that thing that he's been doing, which is the like, it's not about putting them on a pedestal. It's almost as if he believes like, everything will be fine. That sort of thing. It's almost that like version of misogyny that he's expressing and it's fucking

wild. You could treat them that poorly so long as you're like worshiping them at the same time. Right, which is not creepy at all. No, no. So that clip, he's getting real creepy talking about worshiping poop and what have you, which makes me real thrilled to learn what we learn

in this next clip about Alex's audience. Like my children, they go, if everyone hates Trump so much, why did he get elected? And I said to my oldest daughter yesterday, I said 13 year old sweetheart. I said sweetheart, that's the old corporate media.

I said, do you watch Jimmy Kimmel? No, who's that? Do you watch CNN? No. I mean, do you watch any of that? She goes, no, I go, what do you watch? She goes, well, you. Oh, no. And I said, who do the people watch at your school? Well,

you. No, I mean, I go to her school and this isn't about me bragging, but sure, like every grade and then across the street, the high schoolers see me and it's like, it's Alex Jones. And I don't want to do this on camera because Hollywood stages stuff where people run up with paparazzi.

I started in the 20s, they would stage cameras and newspapers there to make it look like they were news to get other news to pile on. But I can literally go out and walk in front of a high school in Austin when it lets out and I will be mobbed with people wanting photos and autographs

and people, I was just listening to you. They're not watching Angelina Jolie or Morgan Friedman. And again, I'm not even bragging. I'm more famous than Angelina Jolie and Morgan Friedman. Well, he also always says Morgan Friedman, but so that might be another guy. I'm not entirely sure.

That could be. It could be. Yeah. If you're keeping score in that clip, he said, I'm not bragging twice, which probably means I feel self conscious about how hard I'm bragging. And it's not true. I love the like, look, I'm not going to get a camera and prove the kids mob me everywhere I go.

And dude, if you're going to be talking about like, you know, Harvey Weinstein shitting on the floor and then making snuff films with ladies, you should not have 12 year olds listening to that. That's awful. Even us critiquing and breaking down what he talks about. I don't want 12 year olds listening to this. I'd be horrified

if I went to a school and everyone's like, Dan, like, no, no way. We got to, we got to teach them young who turn into how else, how else do we get them? Wean them off the scat play. Right. They have the internet now. We got to, we got to explain that it's bad before it goes any further.

Someone, someone made a good point in the chat. Maybe there was a friend, Nikki Gifts, that it's shocking that he can still talk to his kids at this point. Yeah. And the beginning of the clip explains some of the things he's got to go through. Well, they weren't allowed to use clips of the show in the trial. Right. If that were to occur.

Oh boy. Oh boy. It's court ordered that I go to psychology meetings every two weeks with my daughters. I mean, I don't have to go, but they go and don't fucking don't fucking sell out your kids like that. Don't do that.

I don't have to go. I'm perfect. There's nothing wrong with me. It's the kids. They definitely don't focus more on me and my rampant and the narcissism. The horrible things that I put everyone around me through. And it's, it's turned out

overall, I had a contested divorce. That's part of the system. And that's what happened. But I mean, here's an example. I walk in the psychology place yesterday at four o'clock psychology place. There's a family walking out of some of the other psychology offices. He shakes my hand. He's got a young daughter and a son.

Hey, I love the show. Just listen to the other day. Love David Knight. Okay, thanks. Already not true. Is that why they're in the psychology place? They're like, whoa, our dad loves Alex Jones. No, no, no. He loves David Knight. Oh, God. Which is the dead ringer that this story is not

true. No one brings that up in public. Appreciate it. I go sit down. My daughters are inside for an hour before they're about to come out. A 15 year old girl comes in, sits down. I don't say anything to her. She's unaccompanied.

I sit there waiting on my daughter's playing on the phone, sending texts, doing those. Researching. No. And then her mom walks in and she looks at me. She looks at her phone. She goes, I'm listening to Owen Shroyer right now on this app. That is

not true. That is the Nicaragua of lies right there. But I think what he's doing is he's trying to get subtle plugs out for the other shows that are on his network now. David Knight as the morning show Owen Shroyer as the drive time. And so I think that's what he's doing. This is all this is all a subtle pitch

that that whole ad. I didn't talk to the 15 year old girl because she was unaccompanied. I respect I'm a predator. No, I support that. I support that. Leave people alone in public. I'm fine with leaving her alone. But the unaccompanied part

is where it's like and if she had somebody there I would have been like, it's time to play. It's less weird if you talk to someone in public if they're not alone. I think that's definitely true. Absolutely. So I don't I don't it's it's weird that that comes up in his very not

true story. Exactly. But it is the it's not. I don't think it's wrong. It's just strange part of your fantasy life, Alex. But it's something I've never seen. It's a blue info or squares. It's incredible. And she said, you know, all my neighbors are listing now. It's amazing. Again,

I'm not bragging folks. Third time. I'm just saying they know they're dead and I'm not saying we're the future or we're cool or we've got red carpets. That's all stupid. The point is they are the past. They know they've collapsed.

They know they're a joke. He's basically saying that he's the future while saying, hey, listen, I'm not saying we're the future. I'm just saying everybody else is in the past. Yeah. Do you think he can go even further with this?

Do you think I believe the I believe that he can so he started with saying his kids listen to the show. Yeah. Then he went to all the kids at their school listen to the show. Everyone. And now I'm at doctor's offices and people can't tell me how much they love info wars enough. Right. It just keeps going

and yeah, you can keep going. It turns out there's even more groups of people who listen to him. If you're Trump, give three more examples. Or you're the folks, you know new media is bigger than mainstream media, but still what you read the New York Times.

So that still is what matters to you. But that's almost over folks. That generation is almost gone and they're great people. I'm not glad to say it. But the statistics show what I just told you and it's not just that some of my children

go to one particular school so they watch it listen there. I also don't think is that like the school from fame but for info wars. I know I'm at they're all dancing down the street and then they're like the world is falling apart and their chimera is all over the place. No, I mean, that would be fun.

I would watch that movie so fast. But I think what the reality is is he's breaking to electric info wars. He's come up with a lie and that is that all the kids at my kids school listen to the show and he's dumb. So the first rebuttal he could come up with is oh my kids go there so they must

watch it all at school like in the classes and shit because my kids go there. So I must rebut that dumb rebuttal right as opposed to being like not a chance. I mean there's just not a chance that's even. Also if you were if you were Alex Jones's kids there is no way that you would want

people at your school to know you were Alex Jones's kids. No way. Look, it was bad enough being me in high school let alone being Alex Jones's kids. My mom was the computer teacher at my elementary school and it was brutal. Mine was the music teacher at my elementary school.

I can't imagine your dad is the guy who screams about all kinds of like taking eating shits. Yeah, bring your dad to school day must have been a fucking terrifying experience. He's either a delight in person or it's a tragedy everywhere. I don't

know what the reality is. But anyway he's not done. There are more groups of people who listen. Young people when they see me at the mall or wherever literally their mouths hang up and they go it's the living meme. Prendits, old people, black folks, Hispanics.

Executive class Hispanics. Hispanic guys. Five guys walking through at the mall. They get to work early. We love you so much. It doesn't matter. It's all groups because they know this year's as close to reality as you're going to get. No. Okay. We got Hispanics.

We got executive class Hispanics. We've even got business class Hispanics. We got first class. But let me tell you something. None of that priority boarding bullshit. They're trendies and globalists

my friend. He's got kids at the mall slack jawed that they're seeing the living meme in person. Unfucking real. He's really projecting pretty hard. So he talks quite a bit about Weinstein and what have you. Then he drops this gem on us

which is a little bit too long for me to have been an out of context drop but I wish it would have been because this is fucking, this is delightful. It's an act of domination an act of control. Lenny Mays Johnson, this is on record and Pulitzer Prize winning books

would hold cabinet meetings while he took extended incredibly stench filled dumps. And he did it to dominate people. That is true. 100% true. 100% true.

He nicknamed his dick Jumbo. Full disclosure. I do a bit about Lyndon Mays Johnson. BJ sucks. But also he passed the civil rights act as well as Medicare. But it also wasn't the same thing as what Weinstein did.

No. There's subtle differences to holding cabinet meetings while you're taking a shit. I mean the issue is forcing women to do shit. Our presidents have been almost universally garbage. Yes, of course. So I mean well it takes

an insane mind to draw out oneself towards like thinking you deserve power. And so like the idea I mean everyone much smarter people than me have said this but like yeah it should be it should be anybody who wants to be president should never be allowed to be president

and anybody who wants to do the things that Larry Nichols does. It's indicative that there's something wrong with you. So this there's a little bit more about Lyndon Mays Johnson. And then we've got to get to a failed prediction that I made last night. Okay. And that's

all Hollywood is in the NFL and Kaepernick and all these super unfulfilled people LeBron James and Eminem all getting together and you know the same headline everywhere. A fierce attack. I saw it in just headlines everywhere. A fierce attack by Eminem. Just some pathetic

corporate shill with LeBron James and the. So I texted you. I think this morning I predicted that half of the show would be about Eminem and how he's a race trader. Yeah like veiled language. Yeah. I was off man. He barely talks about Eminem barely talks about Eminem. Yeah

and I feel like it's well he's worried that Eminem is going to challenge him to a freestyle rap battle and Alex I'm not bragging. What about those TVs bitch. The thing is like I wanted to I was hoping he'd bring up Eminem because I wanted to talk about

Eminem a little bit. First of all I think Eminem is pretty great in many ways especially in the context of D12. I think D12 is amazing stuff. I knew you would bring up D12. Horror core rap is great. That stuff and the grave diggas and stuff like that where they set out

intentionally to freak out white people as a part of the genre. I love it. Future Wolfgang killed them all was a relative descendant of that. I didn't like that as much but yeah be that as it may I like a lot of that stuff. I do respect a lot of Eminem's work. Listen Earl Sweatshirt

is great though. I don't disagree but be that as it may. That video that Eminem dropped I gotta say he's not great I appreciate the text the context and the subject

matter. I think that's great. I think he's saying something that is great because there should be more celebrities coming out and being like fuck you if you like if you support this you cannot possibly support what I'm into. Yeah exactly. That's great but man he was he was weak on the

bars. It was not good in the video of him like him pacing around. It's very produced and then everyone like all these dumbasses on Twitter posting like oh my god that freestyle was sick and like you didn't freestyle that shit. Yeah I heard Eminem freestyle like crazy before

he's very good at it if he was doing it if he was actually off the dome as they say it would have been so much better. Yeah. It would have been amazing but that was very very rehearsed. Of course. And rehearsed to make it seem extemporaneous and I thought it was

whack. I didn't watch it just because I was like I don't want to I don't want to A be a part of this and B be the guy who's like I didn't like it. Like I don't want any part of that. Get this. I was taking a shit last night and I needed something to watch. I'm like this is all over

the joint chiefs of staff were watching you. Absolutely. A power move. Yeah exactly. But be that as a man I still support. I still support him. Yeah. All that. I support the message. I just think it was weak in terms of actual rapping. Yeah. I just need that to be clear anyway back to the clip.

Dumb zombies still think it's cool. Yeah there's still a big component of schmucks. They go spend their money on that and think it's all cool but it's not the young people anymore they're like dad I don't want to go see a Harrison Ford movie. I don't want

your life. I don't want to see Harrison Ford guy. He was really excited about the new Blade Runner and we got tickets and wanted me and my son to go and I said dad I just I'm gonna work. I don't want to go and he went pick my son up and my son said to his grandfather he said let's just go over to your house and swim

in your pool with grandma and maybe play cards or something. I don't want to go see a Hollywood movie. Oh you don't want to go see a two hour and forty minute sequel to a movie you didn't see. He didn't want to watch Hollywood. Hollywood. Give three more things he doesn't want to watch.

Lyndon Bain Johnson shit. I actually would like to see. The what you talked over there a little bit was him being like I didn't have to tell my son that. Like yeah but he's a correspondent on Info Wars sometimes and you've raised him to be a dick like you. Yeah so you kind of did. Also

I don't know maybe that Blade Runner movie is good. I don't see. I want to see it. I love Blade Runner. So today on the show Alex Jones does it takes a lot of calls. Comparatively it's still not many calls compared to his normal rigamarole. He's taken quite a few

calls. One of them is trying to lure him into talking shit on the Jews by saying that are the globalists actually the Cazarians and Alex sort of fumbles around with that question about like well actually in primeval Georgia

but sure he does fine but the best call is a guy who makes Alex remember that he a long time ago said he was going to make a music show. Yes wait that was brought up again. Yeah because we know this

from MC Daffy Duck. Yeah who called him brutal and so now this comes back up after this call I produced music basically you can call it info wars or patriot music. What does that mean? What's info wars music? I want some of those

pants that nobody knows what size they're going to be Muslims in public freak me out. And have been for about the last four years I work with a friend of mine that's a Nashville staff writer here in Omaha and

that's basically the feedback that I've gotten from him is he doesn't want to touch it with a 10 foot pole because. I would argue that it's possible that your music sucks and he's being polite. I'm just going to guess that's possible. All conservative art sucks. It's just part of being a conservative. Yeah.

Because you know of the potential and now with them shutting down Facebook and your opportunity to be able to promote your music personally you know. Oh absolutely we got the whole evil mainstream media Hollywood globalist the ball on our back brother but here's the deal

once we're awake and we know they're on our back just like a buck in Bronco or a bull they're not going to stay on our back forever. They can hold on for dear life but they're never going to make the full eight seconds they want. But send me some information at

showtipsm4.com I'm more and more Millie Weaver had this idea I do have this idea years ago as well. Smart folks have the same ideas to have some music shows. They're perfectly to highlight independent new music. The problem is you run into their producers

and then other stuff and it's a mine field this guy does not have a producer. So anything that's kind of Hollywood and I appreciate your call Kenny just gets a little weird and so that's why you know it's hard for us to promote stuff or get involved but I'm sure you're great but you know there's

so much great patriot music online and a lot of it gets millions of views millions of lessons it just doesn't get Hollywood recognition but you don't need that if you're playing to a crowd of 100 people about the truth you know and and you know sell 5,000 you know songs or DVDs or ccd's you're winning. 5,000 songs?

But it is about everybody supporting the media that they think is helping the world. Just like Info Wars. 50% off right now on our great brain pill. Great. Yeah, so that's amazing. So I have

two more clips that are him manipulating his audience pretty hard and then I have one last clip that's delightful. So in these next clips it's really important that we've watched through Alex's journey in 2015 where

he comes to identify with Trump where like Trump becomes like interlocked with his goals and his sort of where he's going in life and now you can see in 2017 he's really desperately trying to do that to his audience

and you can hear it in this clip. And remember when they say Donald Trump they mean you and I'm not trying to get you to identify yourself personally as Trump the enemy when they see in R.A. they think gun owner. When they see Trump. Yeah.

They think average American black, white, Hispanic, Asian old young wants freedom. No. No. That's manipulative nonsense. They think fake billionaire liar who is the sociopath who's trying to get us all killed. Right. And when you see

NRA you don't think gun owner. No. You think mass shootings. Well and you think lobbying agency that is making those more likely. Absolutely. Well what makes them more money than mass shootings? Yeah. Like that's the reality of it. Yeah. Of course the NRA wants mass shootings

to continue happen. They make a shit ton of money when they do. Yeah. And so in this next clip the identification A means B gets even worse. The globalists have taken down most groups and now there's one bastion halfway left

in the globalist mind in Hollywood's mind and that's the Midwest. And they say it's white because they want to get people to fight with each other but it's just they mean Christian. Oh boy. So yeah. I mean white Christians. Yeah. I think he's saying what he

means. Oh. Or what things mean to him. Right. But you got to look at it in the reverse. Christian means white to him. White means Christian. Middle America means white Christian. Normal Trump means white Christian. Yeah. But they can be black white people. Oh dude.

We have plenty of but we have evidence that there is at least one black white person. I completely fucked up. What. There was a clip I meant to pull and I didn't get it. It sucks. There was one caller this lady called in and straight up. She said hey you know what Obama

he had a chance to bring the country together. Why didn't they play up more that he was half white. Oh no. Oh. Yeah. It was amazing. I was like lady is you are missing it but fascinating

way. So wait her idea is that by his being biracial that's how he could have done it. If they had played up he is both black and white like a Michael Jackson video. Or played it more up that he was half white. Yeah.

Call him half black. Let's call him half white. I'm one of you white people. Right. Trust me. I'm half white. Yeah. That's what you wanted him to do. There's definitely no historical precedent for a mixed race person to be judged as horribly as someone who is otherwise

entirely black. Yeah. So that's sort of indicative of the calls he gets. That's fucked up. Another person called in and was like hey I first became exposed to you from the Rogan podcast and I just saw that you really do have sources you're really smart.

Oh fuck you Joe Rogan. Exactly. Jesus fucking Christ. Makes it very clear. Anyway I'm exhausted. Let's get this last clip in here. Larry Nichols interview fucking exhausted me. Yeah I know right. Very frustrated. I know. But here we go the last clip

and Alex talks about something that I don't know. I don't know. I think I spent a lot of time in my youth I think he's recontextualizing them in an interesting way. Do you mean Alex Jones' grandpa pool? No. Support the good little church to solve the truth. Not the big mega one

that has to look so nice and makes you feel so good. There's all these neat people to meet. I mean all these big mega churches are swinger clubs. You know that right. You want to go pick a woman up just like that. Go to a mega church. You want to go swinging. That's where you go.

I did not know that. Folks I'm not saying that to be mean. Everybody that goes to him knows that. Or they're stupid. Support the good little church to solve the truth. I love that at the end. Everyone knows that. Or they're stupid.

I didn't know if I wanted to swing. I could just go to a mega church. I did not see that comment. I went to a mega church growing up and I will tell you it was not a swinger's club. It was just non stop fucking. No. I mean some of the kids were finger banging and stuff. What kids aren't finger banging.

Me. Hey if you're not finger banging you're stupid. I was stupid. So anyway that brings us to the end of this episode. I don't feel like I got what I wanted out of that interview but I also went in expecting that would be the case.

Yeah I was I suppose that all I was really hoping for was to get him to drop that bullshit for just a second. Just one second of just like, of just him stopping and thinking for a moment. But he's so good at just like

fucking rolling with it. If you don't believe me that's on you. If you don't believe me that's on you. I don't need to follow up with anything. And the details are too thick. There's just so many little points. There's a whole celestial sphere made up of these little names

and little details that there's no piercing it. I did like finding out that he actually thinks he was the leader of a Nicaraguan drug running scam. That's fun. Or gun runners. I also like that he refused to answer if Meshack Taylor was

involved in the church. He did not want to do that. No. He loves me. Maybe that's too hot. He loves Meshack. You can't you can't come at Meshack. Yeah. So I thank you all for listening and joining along with us. Please stop telling us to call Larry Nichols. You will try

and find other people's phone numbers. You can see how unsatisfying that was. It's fun to talk to him for about three minutes. Yeah and him be like I gotta go. Yeah. It's not fun to talk to him for 40. No. Anyway, we do thank you all. We appreciate it very much. You guys joining us along here on the Twitch

also everybody who's listening to this later. You can find us at knowledgefight.com. That is our website. You can go to Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight. Correct. And we have a Facebook page. Uh huh. What was the other thing that we do? Oh, we're on iTunes. We are.

You can download it. You can subscribe to it. You can leave a review. Yeah and generally Monday through Thursday at 8 p.m. Central. We're here live on Twitch but this Thursday tomorrow we will not be we'll not be broadcasting because I am going to friend of the show Matt Riggs is wedding.

Congratulations Matt Riggs. Congratulations, but we'll be back next week with some fun. We'll try and find Paul Joseph Watson's phone number. Yeah. No, we won't. I don't know. I don't ever want to talk to him. No. So you guys can stop. I don't I don't really want to talk to Alex either because it would just

turn into him and me shouting at each other. Yeah. Mostly just bark at him. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys can stop that chant either that or me saying give three more examples. Right. Right. Right. I'll be like Alex Alex Alex. I don't give two hoots of a rat's balls.

And Alex Alex will be on this podcast by the time I'm a duck. So if it walks like a duck and that angel doesn't have wings. Yeah. So we'd like to thank Larry Nichols for you know taking time out of his day. We do

appreciate that. Fuck him. No, there's another guy who's got to fuck off. It's this toothless son of a bitch who won't give us a call and talk for 40 minutes. Oh shit, man. We've got to talk to his bullshit ass. It's fucking fine. Fucking Rapaport's number. Absolutely. I can't be that hard.

Howard. I got a little cold. It's actually written on the back of that picture. That's why he'll never hang it up. Yeah. Oh, Dan and Jordan. So you know. Man, you know Rapaport sucks. You know who I really think

is at fault for this whole thing right here. This whole interview with Larry Nichols. Larry Nichols after I talked to him earlier in the day he gave he gave this guy a call and he was like, what do I say? Right. And this guy was like you just lie your balls off. Just keep

talking. Directly to their fucking faces. Just keep talking. Just keep on lying to him. So that means I have one thing to say. What's that? Go fuck yourself, John Rapaport. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So, Alex, I'm a first name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

Thank you.