Knowledge Fight - #92: October 13 & 16, 2017

Episode Date: October 17, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on last Friday and this Monday's episodes of The Alex Jones Show. The episode begins with a discussion of why it appears that Alex is in league with Nazis, then spirals out of control as Alex makes a surprising confession, Owen Shroyer shows his incompetence, and Alex gets very introspective and starts speaking in riddles.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. That is correct. Is there a twist to that?

Some sort of hook that would get people to listen? There is a twist. I am drinking a cappuccino beverage, and you are drinking a alcoholic beverage. I'm drinking Golden Road Wolfpup Session IPA, which is terrible. I wish I were drinking Revolution Beer. There we go. Revolution Brewery. Please sponsor us. I was just thinking, how is this insulting the beer going to help us get a sponsor?

Oh, it's all about looking at revolution. That's what it's about. That's what I'm doing. Smart. I appreciate it. Absolutely. I respect the game. Thank you. Something wrong with my headphones. Doesn't sound great. Gotta be honest. No, that's you.

It probably is. Yeah. Let's see. Maybe I fiddle with this. No, who cares? Anyway, guys, welcome back. This is a podcast where we talk about Alex Jones. We are going to be going over a lot of stuff today. We're going to have a number of days that we're going to be covering today because we were off for a little bit at the end of the last week.

Yes, sir. I want to deal with some issues, but first here is an out of context drop from Alex Jones. When I plug, we're in the black. When I don't, we're in the red. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. That he's doing it wrong. Right. So wait, so, but he's always plugging. So then they must be the most profitable company in the history of the world.

Right. I think they have never had a bad day. I think he meant it in reverse. Yeah. But at the same time, they're like, no matter whether you were being accurate or not, it doesn't work. You are always plugging. Yeah.

A B P. Yeah. Always be plugging. I got it. Yep. Cappuccino beverages are for closers. All right. So just to give a little bit of, we just dropped on Monday.

We dropped our episode where Larry Nichols and us had a conversation for about 40 minutes and I want to, I want to just do a little bit of a post-mortem on that now that we're back together here sitting down and all the peeps have been able to listen to it and just say that that was not super pleasant for a number of reasons. Well, I mean, we, we addressed that in the, in the meantime, but listen. I, we could do an entire episode breaking down why the FEMA provisional government isn't real. It's not real,

but that's all we do. We just say that. Have we done that before? I feel like we've covered the FEMA provisional government. I've done a bunch of looking into it and all it is is just the same continuity of government fears that Alex has. Right.

00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:46,200 And most of it is based on the fact that FEMA was created by executive orders over a long span of presidents and never actually formalized into an actual government organization until fairly recently. So there is a stink of like, this is executive control and, and, but it doesn't, it's not real and it's only popping up now because of Larry Nichols. It's all Larry Nichols bringing it back up. If you Google it, it's all, it all goes back to him. Wow.

This is all just him. All right. He was, he was peddling shit like this in the nineties too. Yeah. And the reason it's everything that's old is new again. And it's fucking boring. Are we actually being run by a secret FEMA provisional government? Like even, even from Larry Nichols, there's a FEMA provisional government behind that.

Well, but, but think about it in terms of like what we've gone through. I can't do it. It's mind bogglingly stupid. Well, 9 11 happened and the FEMA, well, that the plans had to be kicked in. People had to go to say FEMA do 9 11. No, but members of the government had to go to safe locations and stuff like that to assure the continuity. Right.

Bush did set that into motion on 9 11 and it happens whenever there are disasters. That's just, that's just a piece of, you know, it just, it happens. Right. It's, it's all a nonsense paranoid fear and it mostly comes out of like weird militia type folk. Right. And it turns out, I think Larry is in that, in that cadre either that or he's exploiting that cadre of idiots.

Yeah. And also his timeline about when he would have been involved in Iran. Contra just does not make sense, but anyway, delivering that hard rice to Nicaragua. None of it makes sense. None of it, but I want, I don't want to dwell on it too much. I want to get it out, get it out of here, shake it off as they say, get dust off our shoulders and what have you and move on to greener pastures. I love it when you, when you do a camera take now, especially the wrong shoulder.

Yeah, my, my distant shoulder, all of our podcast listeners love your camera takes. Yeah. So, um, I want, I want to tell everybody that who's listening live. We appreciate it. And then everyone who's listening later, um, I want, I want to make this appeal, uh, abundantly clear. Uh, I have quit my job and at the end of the month, I will not have a job and I

want to do this in a much more serious way and, uh, a much more in-depth way. And in order to do that, I need your help and generally we put some sort of a lackadaisical plug at the end of the show or mention it when, you know, someone has become a policy wonk. We say you can too. I want to be much more clear. If you are in any way inclined to donate to our show, if you like what we do, please help.

We need the help. Uh, I don't think, uh, Soros is going to come through. I'm starting to think Soros ain't coming. No, I'm starting to think that all of Alex's imagined enemies aren't real. Yeah. Um, If they were, man, they would love us. They'd love us.

We would be fucking millionaires. Yeah. I would be, I would totally do some witch shit if it got us money for this. Yeah. Are you kidding me? Are you going to Bloodworth Thomas? Oh, fuck yeah. I'll sacrifice your baby, Dan.

You can go to patreon.com slash knowledge fight or knowledge fight.com. There's a button that says support the show and we really could use your help, uh, in order to make this real and make this work in the way that I want it to as a, uh, a radio show as a much more in depth, uh, and thorough investigation. I will set up a phone line so people can call in and episodes were Cthulhu's co-hosting with me. We can have weirdo callers, uh, that are much that sound a lot better than Larry Nichols is dumbass.

Hmm. Uh, and I will track down other people. I will, I will hunt down other info wars adjacent people and, uh, ask them the, uh, difficult questions. Um, Dan. What? Dan.

Yeah. I will do this. If I can make this my job. Cassidy. I will talk to Carrie Cassidy. We got to get. I will get you in touch with her. I will one.

Is her dad still alive? So I can get on one knee and ask him for permission to marry his daughter. That's very old school at two. She can't really be that anti-semitic, right? Uh, she is. Damn it. Anyway, that's a protracted plug way more than I wanted it to be, but please, if you would like to help, we would, uh, we could use the help,

uh, in order to survive. And so I don't have to get another job. I mean, like quite frankly, I'll get a job if I need to. But if I get a job, it's going to cut into this. It's weird. It's weird. Especially if I have to get a job that where I work at night, you know, it's going to be a mess or a job where I can't listen to Alex Jones and

take notes all day. It's going to be, it's going to be very difficult. We all, we, it's a weird gig economy. Like I quit my day job, uh, as well. And I got a new standups. I got a new shittier one. Right. And now I'm combining that with standup and this.

And it's like, I am working three times as much as I was before making half the money, but God dammit, if I'm not so much happier doing all of this shit, you know, like if we, if you can avoid the gig economy and actually just do something like, I don't know, I, how do you, how do we avoid calling this valuable? Cause I feel like that's, I will, I will, I will validate what I feel like it is, I will validate that in a moment. But before I do a game of fuck, Mary kill has broken out in the, uh, in the

chat room. Okay. And it's fuck Mary kill me, you and my cat. This isn't good. Uh, well, I'm gonna tell you this, I'm getting killed a lot. I assume so. I imagine I'm getting fucked and the cat is the winner all, uh, all across the board.

Cats getting married. Oh yeah. So, uh, we, you don't want to call this important, but I'm going to make the argument that what we're doing is important and I'm going to do that by playing you two clips that I think are demonstrative of a very difficult problem that we have a thread on that I don't think most people are paying attention to. This first clip comes from, uh, Sunday, September, no, October 8th.

And I heard of this clip and I forgot to cut it and I'm glad I did because it comes in much more relevant now. This is from a conversation that Alex has with Roger stone on the Sunday show and it's clear that, uh, Alex is drunk, uh, but be that as it may. All right. Uh, there's a revelation here, uh, that's troubling. Body Rogers, somebody Matt drudges somebody cause we built our own thing like America and it's just like, good God, good God.

Do you not see the traitorous garbage we're dealing with? Well, and, uh, and just the, the torrent of hate of hate, uh, that is tossed our way, uh, when we simply try to express our own first event. It only encourages me, Roger. Well, I'm, I'm undaunted. Okay. Right now, Alex, I am holding down that, I said, shout down dinner with our fellow revolutionary Milo.

So we can, uh, begin plotting the next move against the global work. So should we name you as a ship, the Americana Dauntless? So that's a drunk man. Right. There's a couple of things. Is that ship, uh, a Nazi boat? No, like his Halloween costume. No, but it is a very specific boat from Star Trek Voyager or a spaceship

from Star Trek Voyager. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a Borg ship. Right. Wait, what? That was designed to look like a Voyager ship. Okay. In order to assimilate people who came aboard what looked like a human ship.

And that's the type of shit that you're not going to get from any other show. That type of insight. It's also, it's also a generic name for like a pleasure. Yeah, I, I know. But be that as it may, that's not the important point. The important thing is Roger Stone is straight up saying in that clip that he is going south to meet up with our compatriot, our fellow revolutionary Milo. Now, why that's important is this interview happened long after that BuzzFeed

article came out, wherein we learned that one of Milo's primary objectives was to whitewash and make more palatable white supremacist and neo-Nazi talking points into mainstream discourse. Right. We found out that one of his email passwords was crystal knocked and another one was night of the long knives. There is, it's undeniable that he has leaning towards, leanings towards neo-Nazi. He is a Nazi.

Absolutely. And end of leanings and of alt-right. Alt-right means Nazi. We're done. We're done with alt-light, all, and none of that bullshit Nazi. The fact that all of this has come out and Roger Stone is still calling him a fellow revolutionary and they're working together means he doesn't give a shit. Well, I mean, come on.

If you're, if, what is, what is Roger Stone? But Milo, you know, 40 years later and like Roger Stone, Roger Stone and his time was the, he was a Nazi. Like if you, if you work with Nixon, you clearly had white supremacist leanings. Are you shitting me? Right. And we, all Nixon was was a palatable white supremacist and he wasn't even that palatable. The argument that I'm trying to make and that I'm trying to come to here is

that we have a group of dudes here who are clearly working on a operation. They're working on an operation that is white supremacist, neo-Nazi in nature. I'll take people are paying enough attention. Do you think is that it like, like a pride of lions? Is that what we're going to call a Nazi group of dudes? Sure. Group of dudes and Nazis. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But here's the, here's the other clip that is from the October 16th show that really brings home why they're doing this and it's the way they present it. And it's not good. But right now, let's get back to the big story here. You've got the Republican and Democratic Party leadership hanging on by their fingernails as a global populist movement explodes against unelected

corporate world government that has bought and sold our politicians for at least 50 years. So they present this as a global, like a global populist uprising that's happening when in reality, that is not what's happening. That is not what's happening in the world. They are on the side that's fighting against the UN and shit like that. That, that would be, if you said those things 50 years ago, they would be taken in their proper context.

I mean, they are, there is a global populist uprising. It's just being co-opted by the very people that they are supposed to be uprising against. Like if, if you're using, like all they're really doing is using the Nazi white supremacy ideology as a way to shoehorn in people towards giving billionaires tax cuts. Like it's all, it's all perfectly manipulated. Milo is owned by the Mercers.

Right. Stone is indebted to all of these billionaires. It's a league with Banna. Yeah, exactly. All of these people who bitch and moan about how the, the billionaires have bought our politicians are the very people who have been bought by the same billionaires who bought their politicians. Right.

Like it's like, I hate to say controlled opposition because it's not even that. It's just mind control. And now take another step back. So we have this Roger Stone is clearly still in league with Milo still in league with this world that's only this far away from Daily Stormer, only this far away from that outright Nazi shit. Right. Then we have Larry Nichols, who was so gracious enough to have a long

conversation with us. He brought up Troopergate in the conversation that we had. Right. And if you think about Troopergate, what was going on there was Larry was convincing these troopers and paying them to tell fake stories about, let's say Vince Foster shit, all sorts of salacious stuff against the Clintons. Yeah. And you know, who was funding that?

It came out that it was a guy named Peter W. Smith, who was a Chicago biker who was funding it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I remember that shit. He killed himself last year at the age of 81, one week after talking to the Wall Street Journal about how he was working with Russian hackers to try and find Hillary Clinton's emails on the request of Mike Flynn. I don't understand this fucking stuff.

I don't see. I don't see any problem with that. It's such a mess. There's nothing suspicious about that at all. Such a mess. I well, do you know what's crazy people? He had a note pinned to his chest. He's calling her Nichols.

These people are so like, I don't, I don't want to get, I don't want to jump whole hog into like a, like this is a conspiracy, a massive conspiracy. But do you mean a massive global conspiracy? But you look at Larry Nichols life and it's like, it seems like he's been conspiring pretty much the whole time. Yeah. And you look at all these other dudes, they're fucking conspiring on Alex Jones a show they're doing it in public.

Like it's very clear what they're doing. Right. Alex has said, we caught him. He said that he talked to Russian intelligence. The all of it's so upfront. The only question is always who is conspiring with who, with whom or what goals and do they even know what it is that they're actually working towards? Like Milo has to have some awareness that he is acting well within the

Mercer's interest. Right. You would have to be fucking stupid not to know that. Now he of course probably has the idea that they're bankrolling his ideas. Yes. As opposed to utilizing him as a propaganda tool to get their game. Right. There's probably your ego probably doesn't let you things otherwise.

Exactly. So all of these guys are conspiring imagining or at least I don't know convincing themselves that it's towards their own gains and they have no idea that they are not even players in the game. Right. Like that's what it seems like to me. So I agree and here the point that that folds into is that all of this is going on and we have a thread on all these fucking assholes and it all the picture

starts to come into focus a little bit and I think that the easiest attackable point and the easiest exposeable point as we can do it very easily is Alex Jones. Find the assholes and it's Alex. Yeah. It's he's number one asshole. He can't keep his mouth shut. No.

Absolutely not. He fucking rambles all over the place and we could pin him to the wall incredibly easily as we have over and over again if people would just pay attention. Right. So now here's the other part of my thing. If Alex Jones were to go down if he were to disappear I'm a hundred percent convinced it would leave a massive hole.

And here's how I know that. Okay. David Knight is boring as shit. Agreed. And he gave him three hours on his network. Wonderful. The other person he gave three hours on his network is Owen Troyer. Hilariously.

Who hosts the the war room after Alex Jones' show. I'm still going to call him Owen Troyer from now. That's fine. Okay. On the 20 on the 16th on October 16th Alex leaves the show early and Owen Troyer takes over and I have some clips that demonstrate that Owen Troyer can't hang. He can't do it.

If we if we're able to like expose Alex in the way that I know we're capable of. Right. What are you left with boring ass David Knight. He's never going to inflame the neo Nazis to action. Roger Stone can't fucking take over. No absolutely. Too old and boring.

No you take down Alex you take down all of him. This operation is a disaster. Absolutely. So here listen listen to this. I have three very specific clips from the 16th of Owen Troyer just not doing the job. So here in this first clip we see that one of Alex Jones' big tricks is he gets people really excited screaming out to break.

Owen Troyer can't do it right. So Daniel DeJesus Rongle share 19 accused of murder kidnapping and possession of a weapon during a violent crime in connection with the death of an 18 year old Deanna Martinez Gonzalez. So he takes Deanna Martinez Gonzalez out to the woods murders her. There was one other victim that he probably would have also tried to murder but she was able to get away and yes this individual was protected from deportation because of the DACA program.

So there's one murderer. At least one that we know of. There's multiple but here's one. A murderer kept here because of Barack Obama. Do you hear that? Then the Democrats a murderer kept here because of the Democrats. We'll be right back. Oh man is that bad.

That's not like I get it. A murderer kept here by the Democrats. I don't know if the sound mixing was bad or whatever but he just he can't do it. He doesn't have that like Alex would be going every second until the fucking feed cut off. Absolutely. He just he can't.

You can't do it. Even his rage sounds pathetic. Yeah. Did you get it? There's a murderer. Right. He's terrible at this. Then one of Alex Jones's other big tricks is to scream about and

complain about PC culture run amok. Fucking no one shroyer can't do that either. Listen to how he fucks this up. This is from the college fix ahead of Halloween universities nationwide tell students not tell students what not to wear. So Alex has been telling you about this for a while. It's just gotten more extreme now. We are a culture not a costume.

Who are these people? Who are these people that are so indoctrinated into identity politics that they can't even enjoy Halloween? It's insane. So then they go off and they tell you what you can't wear on Halloween. Blackface. That is in the list. Oh is it?

Yeah. We'll get to that in a second. What kind of people are obsessed with identity politics that they don't even love Al Jolson, Dan? I don't know. Most blackface as we know from Gavin McGuinness or Nigel McGuinness. I can't remember. Who cares?

One of those fucking idiots. Most blackface was reverent. Yeah. Very much. But you know, I get it. You're not supposed to say the part I'm a culture not a costume because that makes too much sense. Right.

When you're attacking this article, you're not supposed to say the things that most people thinking will be like, oh yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. And then you're definitely not supposed to do this. It's all because of cultural appropriation. Unacceptable costumes are wearing Native American headdresses dressing up as Mexican by wearing a sombrero dressing as a geisha or any form of blackface. Geisha.

I don't know about blackface, but Native Americans, you know, Indians or whatever and Mexicans, there's always some of the most popular costumes. You know, you walk around as Mexican, you're handing out tequila, you're having a good time. Everybody loves you. I remember I, they're going to use this against me. I dressed up as an Indian one year and it was, it was one of the most popular costumes ever.

I ever did. I went full character. The character was bear claw. Everybody loved it. Nobody got offended. Right. So I imagine now, I don't know what kind of people Owen Troyer hangs around with. You might self select.

I'm guessing none of them are First Nation. I'm going to guess not. I'm going to guess none. I'm going to guess zero. I'm going to guess all white. I would assume so. And if Alex was telling this story, someone else would be doing it and he would be defending their behavior as opposed to putting himself in the hopper where I'm the guy who dressed

up like bear claw. And not just that, but it would be, there'd be a whole story around it and there would be like a whole group of, but two people came up to me and they said, you know, I don't even understand why it is that people aren't allowed to wear this costume. All of a sudden there are imaginary people on his team and none of them, one of them might have been an Arab. Oh, of course. Yeah.

A Jew came up to me. Wait, don't say Jew like that. Alex, but okay. It'll be Halloween story all over again. Not least of which, even when he was trying to be like ridiculing in his tone of voice when he's reading the list, right, he can't pull it off. So just like, you can't dress like a Native American. You can't dress like he looks, he sounds like a professor reading it going like, yeah,

no, you can't do this. Yeah. He's terrible. And they're like, okay, the whole thing, like, I don't like how we're critiquing him on how to be a better shitty propagandist. Well, I'm just saying that he's not good at this and then the other thing too is like, if you're going to be like, I have a, I had a Native American contest concert, I had a Native American costume.

I was a huge hit. I have everyone called me bear claw didn't say, didn't say Native American, right? Yeah. I'm like, what are you doing? Are you being a Tim McGraw song? What are you doing? Yeah. All my friends got my bear claw.

It's just my papa takes his order for my mama. Get out of here. Get out of here. I'm an Indian outlaw. Okay. Here's new, new pitch. Right. All right.

We abandoned this show. No. Instead, we get hired by Info Wars God to train his shitty guys to get into shape. Seriously. Nobody could coach Alex Jones like people better than us. This is not a bad plan, dude. We could be great consultants. Oh my God.

We crushed consulting for Info Wars. But we'd have to leave Alex alone cause like, you don't make sense what you do. Right. You tell you to do something different, but apparently it works. Right. Yeah. But all these other guys, Jesus. Dude, you gotta, you gotta work on that.

So in this last clip of Owen Shroyer, he was. Yeah. We're now, we're now officially free agent mercenaries. We'll train anybody to become a propaganda. At the end of the month, I need the money. Somehow we've become the best acting coaches for propaganda that you could ever have. We at least know what sucks. Right.

And that's Owen Shroyer. Right. Absolutely. In this next clip, I didn't take these from the war room. This is him in the big leagues. This is him stepping into daddy's chair and he's fucking up like this. Yeah. Listen to this.

He's trying to talk about, um, about the situation with Colin Kaepernick and. This is not going to go well. It's not what you think, but it's terrible. Colin Kaepernick's support is dwindling. NFL ratings are dwindling. NFL attendance is dwindling. And it all started because Kaepernick wanted to protest the national anthem. Yeah.

Okay. You can say it was against police. You can say it was against that, but optics become the story. You're kneeling during the national anthem. That's never going to win. Alex would never say optics become the story because you know what that means. We lie. Oh, I don't understand.

That means we know what the real story is, but we exploit the appearance in order to make racists angry. I don't understand. That's fucking terrible. Clearly he's just, he's just telling the truth, man. Unfortunately, I mean, he doesn't even know, does he? He has no idea that he's giving up the game. So obviously. No, of course not.

Because you look at his face and he's like, well, you know, I mean, it's probably about police. Yeah, I know. He's accidentally too reasonable. He's accidentally making our point for us. Yeah. Absolutely. The opening to that was like, oh yeah, no, you're right. He started all of this and now he doesn't have a job.

So one, that proves collusion. Right. Obviously. It seems like it's indicative of it. Yeah. Two, you just clearly made the point that yes, it was about cops killing black people. Right. And you know it.

Yeah. He knows it. You know it. Absolutely. Yeah. But optics, he's giving, he's giving Kaepernick advice. We're trying to get him into shape for Alex Jones and he's giving Kaepernick advice on how to do it.

Right. It's like Colin, Colin, baby. Hey. Optics. Opt. You got to make sure that people view it in the right light. Right. And that old, that old argument optics become the story is kind of like, well, you're kind

of who cares? Anyway, the optics become the story, which means we can lie about whatever it is you're looking at. Yeah. Who cares? Yeah. I think, I think we've made our point. There's no one.

Oh, Troyer sucks. There's no one competent to take over. Once daddy's gone, the kids can't hang. There's no adults there other than him. I just think they. Who is this buckly going to come out from behind the camera and host? Who's going to do it? It seems as though Alex is the only one who, like they all are probably believers.

Certovich can't even do it. Oh, no. Certovich sucks. No, he's a disaster. No. So what I can, what I gather from these people is that they're all actual believers. No. No.

No. You don't think so? I don't fucking think so at all. You don't think our Troyer believes his bullshit? No, because if our Troyer believed it, he wouldn't have said any of that stuff. He wouldn't have said, well, it's actually about police brutality. See, this is why I'm going to go the opposite direction. You mean that you think that means he's even more in?

Exactly. Because he thinks this is a new show. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think he does. I don't think so. I think that's what all of those people think, like David Knight. I think he thinks this is a new show.

Alex Jones is the only one who gets that it's a fucking entertainment program. They don't understand that. He's the least and listen to his fucking voice. Well, I mean, think about how seldom people stick around to, like, of all the people who, like, they're not around. Like, in terms of Ashley Beckford, she's gone. Never meet your hair, Stan. Jakari Jackson's gone.

The only people who stuck around to Rob do David Knight. Oh, and Troyer hasn't even been there that long. Right. He has hired him because he had a bunch of YouTube videos where he would bully liberals. Maybe Alex is the real problem here. Maybe his hiring practices just aren't great. I don't think that this is much very attractive to a lot of people, this sort of gig. Whether it's news or not.

Right. But be that as it may, let's get to the bulk of what we're going to be talking about today. Yeah. We're going to be taking a look at Friday, the Friday the 13th of October episode. Sure. Because let me say this. There's a lot of people who have a lot of different favorite Alex's. Like, what's your favorite Alex?

What's your favorite version of Alex? Like, what the mood that he gets into is your favorite? I think probably the least innocuous of all, which is the fake angry while selling things, Alex. Okay. So the very obvious screaming. Yeah. But also, hey, by this wrench.

Exactly. Yeah. Everything. Everything. Look, that is the least harmful. But because at least most of his products can't actually do anything unless you use them beyond all reasons. Unless you take them every day.

Yeah. Exactly. Getting a lot of drunk Alex from the chat room. Well, four ways to learn. Alex is of course a favorite of everyone's getting a dead Alex from a friend, Brian. You got it. But I'm right there with you. I beg to differ.

I like Alex when it's like, there is a version of Alex that is kind of rare. That is Alex surprises himself on air. And then something happens that like, like he punches himself right into another punch that comes from another direction and then he is lost without a map on air. It has to fill time and he is like dazed. And that always leads to esoteric. That's, that might be, you're right. Whenever he just randomly starts getting existential.

The stars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Now, now you're right. You got the right Alex.

Whittle Teller Alex is my favorite Alex and on February or sorry, Friday the 13th, October 13th, Alex gets stupid esoteric. Okay. But there's a narrative to why it happens that I think is a really interesting path. Okay. And in this first clip. So you're going to take us on a journey here. Yes.

Because at the beginning of the episode, he's not super introspective or super. He's not that weird. He's just sort of like, man, but then he accidentally talks about Weinstein. Oh no. And he accidentally brings this up. We are back live show. I've been on a lot of TV shows and been in some movies. Reality television.

You name it. Discovery channel, history channel, true TV. You name it. And I've been on the late night comedy shows years ago. No, you haven't. Some of the late night comedy shows. I can't imagine that. Carson Daly.

Because back then I was criticizing Bush a lot and Hollywood was so one dimensional. They thought, oh, that must mean you're a liberal until they find out your real political views. It's just crazy. You're crazier. And then still they liked you because you're criticizing Bush. They don't get you don't like Bush and you don't like the Democrats either. They just, it's so one dimensional. But that was 20 years ago, 15 years ago, 10 years ago.

And I've barely gone out there in the last six, seven years. So he's 24 at this point because he's 44 now. If you say 20 years ago, he's 24. It's a very different Alex at that point. So now keep that in mind. And I want to also say whatever he ends up saying, I don't think anyone's ready to hear. But at the same time, I'm not judging him. I'm I'm going to enter this the end of this clip with a lot of empathy in my heart.

And ever I wanted to be on Joe Rogan's podcast and I was in and out day and a half. Love Northern California. Love central areas. Love the coast. But just Los Angeles is if Satan lives on the planet, that's where he lives. It's just an emptiness. A hellishness. The energy.

And so people say, oh, you're so brave to talk about going into meetings with Hollywood producers. People that all want to put your film out or make a film with you. These are big, big names. Not as big as Weinstein is he's just ubiquitous. That name but grossing wise as big, you know, the lawyers for some of the top people. The people that actually run it. The owners of the companies. Not the little actors and people running around under the mafia, all totally scared.

And then Hollywood checks out everything that's up and coming. It sees popularity before other people see it. That's it's real talent. So they basically steal ideas. And so they will have a lot of meetings with me. And, you know, pat on the butt. Okay, I played football. But no.

Grab you by the genitals. And I never took it as if it was done in a homosexual way. It was done as domination. And I'd be like, whoa, whoa, what the hell's going on? Just like you heard Weinstein. Oh, baby, I'm sorry. Come on. Oh, hey, hey, come on.

And then later, completely scared of you. If you just said, you know, knock you upside the head. I mean, I would be in these meetings with these guys and not grovel and just say what I wanted. And they would be completely scared of me by the end of the meeting. So, okay. He goes on a bit about this. He jumps back into bravado. But I think he just revealed that he's been sexually assaulted.

Yeah. And he gets exactly what that is. It's not sexual. It's domination. And where I'm sitting, where I'm sitting, I have nothing but empathy for Alex in that situation. That is not something that I would ever come down on him for.

But I do not think he meant to bring this out on the air, necessarily. I definitely don't think so. I don't think he realizes how big that sort of thing is. Like how, you know, that's a massive thing to bring out into the public. Alex, you've now, I mean, you've joined Terry Crews. Yeah. In the, you know, hey, it happens to us guys as well kind of thing. That blindsided me.

Quite a bit. But the other thing is, he can't handle the fact that I think that there's a little bit of vulnerability that comes out in that moment. Oh, of course. That's why he has to- And so he gets to machismo. By the end of it, they were afraid of me. Right. And he really did, that was honest.

And he was telling the truth. And he talks about it a whole bunch more. That's scary. I didn't leave in anymore because it's not like he gets into more details. He just sort of reiterate stuff. Right. But he ended up having like a little bit of a, like he gets in a weird mood and he goes to a special report. So he throws it to a special report from Mark Dice.

That makes it so much more, I don't know. I don't know. Okay. We're getting to why I played that song before the show. Okay. This is bananas. Because that suggests that he knows. What do you mean?

That suggests that he knows exactly what sexual assault really is and what it's really about. Yes. And he still, or I guess he has to divorce that part of him. He's tried to kill that part of himself so much that he's gone so far the opposite direction where he condones that behavior from so many other people. And in fact, encourages it. Yeah. Exactly.

And that's why I don't feel bad about us like covering this and I still hate him. But at the same time, this isn't why I hate him. No. And I'm not going to judge him for being the recipient of being groped. Absolutely not. So he goes to a special report to, you know, to fill some time and it's from Mark Dice. Yeah. And I have not left the entire thing in, but here is Mark Dice with a very iffy take on the Weinstein situation.

Oh boy. As more women continue to come forward with stories of harassment and other abuse at the hands of Harvey Weinstein, this still is just the tip of the iceberg of what goes on behind the scenes in Hollywood. And even darker secret that's just beginning to be uncovered is the fact that gay Hollywood executives also harass and also sexually assault male actors as well. As difficult as it is for women to come forward after they've been sexually harassed or assaulted by high-level Hollywood producers, imagine how much more difficult it must be for men who face homosexual harassment. So that is an issue, certainly.

And it's fair to discuss it. It's certainly something, but it's not great to be like, it's so much harder for men. It's not great. It is in line with Infowars' sort of brand, certainly, but... No, I mean, there's so... There's so much in those very few sentences. Sure. Like there's an entire culture.

There's human history in those three sentences right there. There's the homophobia that you and your ilk sort of reinforced. Absolutely. Then, of course, there is that fear of, or not just that, but the gender roles that you're reinforcing in that you think that the worst possible thing that could happen is a man being sexually assaulted. Because how much worse is it that the man who is supposed to be dominant is being dominated? Right. And in the same way...

And how much does that play into Alex's worldview? Of course. It kind of has to. I mean, it does get back to that idea of abusers have been abused, and they become abusers because of that abuse. There's no short psychological throughline to any of this, but you can certainly see a certain amount of... Oh, Alex was dominated, and he never wants to feel like that again. And so he does that to everybody that he can. And he sees victimizers everywhere.

He sees the UN as someone who wants to kill all of us. Who's trying to take him down. Everybody's trying to take him down. I don't think that this is necessary. I'm not saying that is... But when you start to see that abusers have been abused, throughline hit through so many different areas. Right. And then you see a guy like Mark Dice Clay, who is fucking...

The worst. The worst. Like, that... Like, he has no idea what he's talking about. No, he's just trying to get clicks. Yeah, he has no clue what it is he's accidentally revealing about himself, infowars, and everybody that they're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, because even worse is the tacit admission that this is a horrifying thing that can happen to you.

Sure. Well, at the same time, minimizing it happening to women, maximizing it happening to men, but you're still discussing that this is the thing. Right, right, right, right. This is the thing. I think we all agree. Yeah. I think we all agree. Fucking insane.

It's nuts. And part of this is like, you know, I don't... I don't think it's productive for us not to treat Alex Jones like a human, you know, like, I don't think that's necessarily... Like, I don't think... I don't think to look at someone that you... Even to someone you hate and think is a huge problem in the world. Right. To look at them outside of the context of, like, oh, things happen, you live your life, maybe are in pain a lot.

Right. That's not... that doesn't take away from our desire to take him down. I mean, you read enough true crime serial killer books, and you see very similar types of stories emerge over and over and over again. Like, there's this book called The Road out of Hell, where it's like, this was a true monster. This was a psychopath who had murdered so many people who had committed all of these horrible acts. But if you go back to before he had done all of that stuff, and you look at his childhood, there's no way that you can't feel some empathy for that child. Sure. While at the same time thinking that that adult should be murdered in the street.

Right. You know? This has been a very weird chunk of the show, and now let's skip out on it. Super weird. Yes, please. But that is what keeps... I don't think our takes are really what anybody needs to hear on this right now, right? Certainly not.

Yeah. But it is what sets off Alex into the strangest mood possible on this Friday, the 13th episode. Yeah. He spins into talking about Trump and how he knows about how Trump dates in this next clip, which is just trying... He's just trying to kill time. But you look at Trump, he's delivered, and I happen to know women that when he's been in between marriages have dated Trump. And I happen to know the whole backstory, folks, not just from Roger Stone and people, but from a lot of other folks. And a lot of it's actually been, even in the New York Times, back before he was such a political figure, that Trump courts women and takes them out many times and...

Commits sexual. He just won't jump in bed with anybody, and he's a clean freak. That's what no one knows. That Trump is a clean freak when it comes to relationships, everything, and he is a one woman man when he's with that woman. Gifts, money, everything, super nice to him until the minute they're not, and then he's gone. That's Donald Trump. That's a second death. He's in that bus, and the guy's talking about women, and he goes, yeah, it's incredible when you're a TV star, now the women just throw themselves at you.

Here's the section where he misinterprets the Billy Bush tape, but it gets to something weird. He's like an old schooler, he's like, yeah, you can just grab him however you want. Well, yeah, a woman's climbing up on you, you know, the sign is they jump on you, and then it's a mammal mating ritual in primates, but especially in Homo sapien, sapien that you then caress their buttocks, their hips, up the stomach to the chest. Kissing, this isn't mating ritual. You know, certain types of birds pop certain ways, do certain dances, and whipper wills have their songs, and creatures mate. Different whale species have their stuff, it's not bad. So when a woman jumps on you, or you're Elvis Presley and they're throwing their panties at you, what do you think that means?

It means we want to mate with you. That's not bad. That's wholesome. That's good. Whoa. Is a little uncouth for him to have locker room talk? Yeah, 12 years ago. But you know, most men are hypocrites.

If you haven't been in a locker room or lifting weights or something, and made comments about your girlfriend or your wife, and not bad ones. I mean, I made a comment about my wife. She's not street legal. And by that, it's like a 10,000 horsepower car. You're not supposed to put that on the street. Sean, if you want to race, get on a race track. That's got too much horsepower. What are you doing with that out here on the street?

Now, that's a compliment to my wife. Okay. Yeah. I mean, if it's the 60s in a board room, I suppose. He's spiraling and talking about, like, should Trump have had locker room talk? Maybe not. Maybe it was 12 years ago. Allow me to have some locker room talk on air.

Yeah. Let me talk about how my wife has too much horsepower. I would have think that's gross. It's ownership. A little. That's what both of them are doing. Yeah, a little. His entire story about Trump is, like, give you gifts and all this stuff, and then the moment you push back, he's gone.

Right. Like, my wife isn't street legal, like a car you own. Man, there's something to that. It's ownership. Yeah, there's something. Now, I don't disagree with him when he says that most men are hypocrites. Sure. I agree with that.

Yeah. I don't agree with anything else after that point, but the moment he said most men are hypocrites, I'm like, you are correct in one regard, sir. I will take his word that his wife is not street legal. I don't want to know any further information. I can't confirm nor deny. Yeah. Troubling, if true. So that is just sort of like a little interstitial thing we had here.

We had this weird revelation about meeting with executives at the top, and then here, I think, that was the punch that Alex gave himself that knocked him in this direction. And here is the punch that I think comes to him from the other direction he wasn't expecting. Trump had a press conference on Friday. Yes. I think Alex thought it was going to talk tough about North Korea. Not how Alex has been building that up as sort of like, this is the necessary thing. Now, Ron Paul thinks I'm a neocon because I support Trump, but this is important. And he starts just saying all these things about how evil Iran is.

And Alex has this moment. Well, this sounds like to build up the war. I don't like this. I don't like what Iran does either, but I tell you, this is serious. This is live. We can pause it, come back in a minute, and get to the rest of it for you. We've got some guests coming up today as well. We need to be able to control the narrative of how this is going to go.

He is not... Can't react to this in real time. We've got to go to break. Yeah, we can't do this. He's saying some stuff that I don't agree with, and I need to edit this so I can agree with it. Because it definitely sounded like he was making a justification for attacking Iran. Absolutely. And so Alex is like, oh, shit.

I think what he has in that moment that you hear, like this sounds like the build up to war, when he goes to break, I'm guessing he sat there and was like, am I the propagandist for a neocon? Right. Is that what's going on? He wants to attack Iran. Clearly. Yeah.

What is going on? Because he's lying about the Iran deal. They've done nothing but follow the rules. According to all the investigators who have gone in. And so Alex realizes that he has only a couple options on the table. And that is... Pretend it didn't happen. Whatever he does, he's got to kill another hour and a half of the show.

And he definitely can't go into this with open eyes. And he can't have Owen Troyer fill in because we see what he does. So... Owen Troyer would give it up and just be like, Trump is definitely lying about the Iran agreement. Clearly they have been following the rules. But optics. Yeah.

Trump is lying in order to manipulate the... Oh, no. No. Are we the bad guys? In this clip, we get to where Alex is trying to get any kind of a toehold. And it's not really working out. And it starts with him sort of making peace with war. That's not great.

That's a compromising of a lot of the things he stands for. That's not what I wanted to hear. And then it goes... This is seven minutes long. You can tell me whenever you want me to pause it. Oh, boy. And listen, if folks want big wars and people like Iran want one, I'm not afraid of it.

Not looking for it, but I'm not really worried about it. It's a miracle we've been here this long. What? Long pause. But there's a lot of long pauses. I just look at... I know what Trump's doing. Where we've been maneuvered by the whole Hollywood globalist elite

and the big mega bankers that just want to be Hollywood stars who took control of the global economy and then made themselves Richard and God, basically, but then cut off the economy to make people poor so they could dictate the terms of their surrender so they could then cut Christians and people that are the strength of the nation. No, you were doing so good.

I mean, this is just a bunch of really degenerate, neurotic, weird stuff where Hollywood and the globalists want to force us into a bathroom with them so they can bathe naked in front of us and then come out in rapists. And that's basically what it is. They say, your kids belong to us, you belong to us. If you behave, follow this societal comportment

or really destroy your life. So this is about Iran, right? Because they knew our weakness. As decent Christian people, we have a moral compass. We have a conscience. And so they remove the conscience of being good and hardworking and taking care of your children and not lying.

You lie all the time. And they replaced it with, oh, you've got to teach five-year-olds that they might not be a boy or a girl and you've got to let other third parties come and sexualize them. That's your new religion. And that's all they've done. They've taken all the uptight

extremes of Christianity and cults using the Christian faith to control people. That's what most of these churches and movements are. And they've just flipped it around. And boy, did we get down in the muck with it and follow it and get into all this self-loathing and all this guilt and just buy into it all.

Okay, you can pause it right there. Luckily, we have a lot of long pauses in order to... Yeah, I'm worried. I think I agree with 80% of what he's saying right now. And that concerns me. That's why I wanted you to pause it there

because I need to understand exactly how I'm feeling about this. Well, it might be because he's speaking so vaguely. I know. But you can interpret it as like, oh, I'm into this. No, but I mean, he's... He's at that... Like, he's...

He's at a turning point, really. Like, the way he's talking, there's that moment where you can see him crescendoing up to like, this could be it, this could be it, and then they teach your kids and they're like, no, damn it! And then he gets right back up there

and he's like, oh, the banks are doing it, like one step away from purple penguin shit. So close! So close to getting over that hump and then all of a sudden there'd be that sea change and we'd have liberal Alex who would scream about... That's never happening.

We'd have me, essentially. That's never gonna happen. Well, maybe you, but liberal Alex is never going to happen. Imagine if I went the opposite direction instead. Holy shit. Man, if he pulled me... Let's get back to this clip

before you fucking actually... Convince myself. Look, it's a miracle I've been a liberal this long. That's all I'm saying. And then those of us that have consciences become the slaves of people that don't and they sit there with their little whip, yeah, mule, yeah, keeping us right in line.

You're describing you. Well, not me. I love God because I know God's real and I had spiritual experiences and I know God's plan. I love it and it's beautiful and I want to be part of it. But I don't find God in these churches. My spirit finds the devil.

That's concerning. It's called Christ. Why are you hanging around with these prostitutes and tax collectors, the most hated people at that time? He said, because they don't claim they're good. They don't claim they've already got it all figured out. They don't pray up on the hilltop in front of everybody else

about how good they are. And then go around and arrest people and shake people down and, you know, have the tax collector do it. The tax collector actually goes out and does it. He has to be hated. What about the people behind that that tell him to go out with?

What are you talking about? Getting lost in the details. You were going somewhere. You were going somewhere. Now, see, the tax collectors back then, they didn't actually go around. What are you talking about? Move on. I don't think Jesus' argument is,

that's not like, I don't know. Pretty sure Jesus wasn't about the Robert's rules of order on that front. Or just like the what about. Jesus was like, what about this guy? He used to

attack the TSA all day long. So I realized, we let Congress do that. Congress did that. They bring the Islamics in. They let them attack. They're behind the TSA people. Now,

I stopped being a hypocrite. I grew up. I mean, I was always somewhat on target for 20-something years on air. Wait, you say you're on target all the time. You know who would cop out in the world? I let Congress do that. You let Congress do that.

I'm not going to sit there at some schlub working at the TSA who really thinks he's trying to look for terrorists. Criminals in there as well. It's a bureaucracy, and it's bad. I don't like it, and I say get rid of it. You know what?

Wait, what? Is he saying get rid of the TSA? He is, but he's saying that I'm on board with it. He's saying that after a long rant where it's like, I'm not a hypocrite, I grew up, I don't blame the TSA. But it is a terrible organization.

We should get rid of it. Thanks, buddy. You really let people sit there and try to grope my children? Is the public of this country the NFL watching want to be tough guys that run their mouths all day

but wouldn't do anything when it came down to the line they'd turn and they'd run as fast as they could from any type of real challenge? Okay. Here's the difference. I'm not running. You know what I'm scared of?

I'm scared of being a coward. I think it feels good to come straight up against this thing. Got a weak ankle. That's why the globalists hate us so much because they know they can't scare us. Because I'm already scared of separation from God.

I've already tied into that energy. I've already dialed into it and it's so good that I'm actually ashamed after this. This rambly introspective esoteric Alex. I'm so good.

Every time he does that you're like, you know you're bad. You know you're evil. There's that glimmer of soul that's left. That's why in his list of what morality is he includes not lying.

Yeah. It's fascinating. Every time he says I'm not saying this to brag you're so good and you're like you're doing the opposite of both of those things. Absolutely. Let's finish this

because he's going to take this all the way to a break. He's going coast to coast. You could say we're going for a touchdown. Yeah. Because I should worry about myself and my family. It's not some wanton thing or some negligent thing where I

threw the fear aside. Also, I just want to be clear I'm not ready for this. You're not ready for the going to break music that kicks in because it could not be worse match. I was going to say if he goes into a sales pitch from here

that's a pivot tube for the ages my friend. He doesn't but the going to break music. We're so good and I love God and it's about protecting my family and I use filters for that. Air filters. I use beautiful air filters that Jesus

used to use. I have great B12. But still, there's shadows and echoes of that when I'm all in everything. My family, my name, my treasure, my blood, I'm ready. It's all in. Let me tell you, making that decision

at a spiritual level is like coming out of Egypt. It's like coming out of Babylon. The minute you decide to be all in is the minute you start living. That's why Chris Moneymaker won. Then you start knowing that this is all just a test.

You don't want to commit suicide. You don't want to die. But you're not afraid anymore. You want to commit suicide. Or at least Boy, he wants to kill himself. He at least has had some dark moments before Trump maybe.

Oh yeah. Maybe he felt like so stagnant in maybe that's what drove him to Trump after all. Maybe he was being lied to just like a depression. Maybe he's our bulwark. Maybe Trump never was bulwark. Maybe Alex was bulwark.

Oh boy. What a tangled web we weave. Will Shakespeare. You realize God's holding your hand. So you want to stay here for your family. Wait for this fucking music to kick in. And stay here to take on the enemy. But you want to be with God.

Do ya? The only thing that matters in this universe is that when you get buried six feet under, you're with God. Is it? Because God is all about free will. No. God

isn't going to be there if you don't want it to be. And that my friends is what separates us is that choice. People that are so insecure that are so weak that they would

out of fear give in to this spirit believe in it would deal with them easier if they rolled over to rolling over only presents your battles with wolf. That little Matrix.

The Matrix music is coming. Holy fucking shit. Even if he's successful he's going to choke on my foot. Oh my god, Jockjibs. Jockjibs from the 90's shows up. I have to pull it back a tiny bit

because what he says here at the end is also like, the way he goes up to break, you would expect him to throw it to some sort of an ad or at least a sad support to show. The Chemical Brothers, however, is not what I was expecting. Black Rock and Beats. Not expecting the Chemical Brothers.

Listen to this really sad throw to break. Out of fear, give in to this spirit believing it would deal with them easier if they rolled over to it. Rolling over only presents your battles with wolf. If the wolf is going to come

even if he's successful defeating me he's going to choke on my flesh. If the wolf choke on my flesh. Well, they're right back on the other side. I'll finish up with Trump. Get into the big news, I haven't had yet.

infowars.com That's fucking Norse. That's not God. That's fucking the Eddas. Like, what are you talking about? When the wolf comes for me, may he choke on my flesh. When Ragnarok arrives.

Whoa. That's weird. Now I, okay. This is introspective speeches to be set to different Chemical Brothers songs from now. Oh, man. At the same time,

you got to get off air, man. You're in no shape to be on air. I haven't listened to the Chemical Brothers in forever. He goes to break and then he comes back from break. As we know, we have uncovered

that Alex Jones stole a bumper sticker. It turns out he stole another one of his catchphrases and he admits to it as he comes back from this break. Which album from the Chemical Brothers that you'll be playing right now? I'm not sure. I don't think it's Chemical Brothers. It's a little more mellow.

Is he going to have like one of the Michelle Gondry directed music videos behind him? That would be an amazing show. It's the Mortal Kombat. I was up in Canada covering Buildenburg. It's a good man. It is a movie.

A distinguished gentleman with a British accent when he said, I'm a mathematician, Mr. Jones. Have you ever thought of the equation politically but also mathematically? The answer to 1984 is 1776.

And I said, no, but I'm going to go say that and I bullhorned it. And he's like, he's saying that he stole that from a fake British dude. He said that a British guy came up to him and said then he's like, have you ever thought about that? He's like, I haven't, but now I'm going to go bullhorn it.

The answer to 1984 is 1776. And Alex wasn't like, where the fuck are you from? Yeah. What accent is that? Strange. Is that like a weird bastardized French accent? What's going on here, man? Very strange.

Figure it out. Figure out where you're from. I love your style. I'm going to go bullhorn it. I bullhorned it and now it's my catchphrase. I love your style, so I'm going to steal it. So I'm going to scream it at Pierce Morgan. Yeah. He died a year later. And then when I looked the guy up,

he was like the former top economist in the British government for multiple prime ministers. Hmm. And like later, he's with me and Tucker at dinner and we're like, ah, drinking beer and he's a bigger drunk than I was.

The point was is that it's just There's no need to put that in there. No. There's no need for that. He has to do it. So he's a bigger drunk than him and

Aaron, he's a bigger drunk than I was. The point was is that it's just these cool people, man. And they're just gone like that. Whoa. That's not just an animal. That's not just a machine. That's a spirit.

That's a person and everything these people that don't have spirit do is try to steal ours. So by stealing what he said, do you not then prove that you are one of those people without a spirit? Ehh.

So he had that long ramble where it got like, you don't want to kill yourself. Yeah. I thought he got his shit together during the commercial because he comes back and he's like, hey, I was hanging out with this British guy. He was a drunk. What a good guy.

But then he gets into the, no one's ever dead. Oh, no, you're still in there. Well, I mean, he might as well have been like, what is dead may never die. Oh, oh boy. When the wolf Fenrir comes to eat you. Oh, Jesus. Alex, I don't think you know what it is you believe.

He's still in that mode coming out of the commercial. Little brothers could free him. No. Because people want what they don't have. And that's all you need to know about Hollywood and all these people. If you want to know why they fear info wars. They don't.

Because knowing that, I'll play this clip from yesterday here in a moment and finish up with President Trump. If you want to know why, well, let's look at what we're doing. If you want to know how to defeat them, what is it? Just being genuine. And swinging for the fence.

And not being affected by what other people think about you. Because you have an inner compass. It's transcendent. So real quick, hold on to those thoughts. About genuine? Being genuine and then having an inner compass.

Those sorts of things. Keep those well in your mind because they're going to come back in a second. So. When I see Google and Facebook and Twitter really curtailing us, really blocking us, really putting the screws to everything,

I knew that was coming one time ago. That's why we built newswars.com and prismplanet.com and infowars.com. That's why we watched radio syndication and TV syndication and why we've tried all the things we've done and had some success.

Because of you spreading the word. I mean, you are the oxygen in the room, listeners. And I know you know that, but don't think it's like Alex Jones is up here. Alex Jones is right here. We're in the room together. No. You're at your mansion.

Yeah. I'm with you right now. You're with me. We're in multiple boats. We don't like pedophiles. We don't like devil worshipers. We don't like cheats. We don't like post-trip. You know, handicapped kids when they're walking down a hall. I don't like people to trip handicapped kids.

I like to hurt bad people. Now let's just be honest about that. And that's something we got to control so we don't become them. Okay. Because that can come around the other way. But you know, I just say that because I know your heart. I know who you are. And

you've already got so much strength. You don't need to go out and dominate to prove you've got it. You're smart. Here's the problem. Globals know you have that strength and they don't like it even if you aren't in the power structure. Alex, you're talking to yourself.

They know you have the birthright. You're talking to yourself! Color your skin as if your heart's pointed towards God. You have the birthright. The enemy knows it. The enemy ever feels it. The enemy's fallen and the enemy says

if I could just have control if I could just bring them down then I would be the most high. Oh boy. When if you had discernment wicked ones, you'd know you are not the most high. You're built to be a receiver.

And then a sub-creator in God's system. You're a spark from God's mind. You are not God. You are the space-time continuum fount. The

product of the progeneration and in that you are timeless and complete and great and with God but the attempt to claim that that which comes out of the mouth of the river is the river is a lie.

You're like a tree that grew by the side of the river, grew old and fell over into the river. But you are not the river. Sure. I agree. Those who choose to be cut off from God achieve oblivion.

I don't know what that has to do with the river. I just kept in the last 10 seconds of silence. That is such I, God, so that's that's our biggest number one for why none of those fuckfaces could ever cover

for Alex because that is pure evangelical pastor right there. Oh yeah. That has all of that cadence, that rhythm to the point where if you're not paying attention, it sounds really comforting. And if you're not paying enough attention, it sounds like

you missed something. Yeah, you didn't. Yeah, it sounds like man he's really saying this in such a way that you're like, I guess he knows what he's talking about. It's a parable. Yeah, it's not. He's just making up words. You are a tree that fell in the river and you thought

you are not the river. Oh boy. Oh, okay. But also oblivion. If you don't go with God, you're an oblivion. I've been to so many churches that have that guy and it's so much fun until you actually

listen and then you're like, oh no, this is all dumb, aren't it? You're crazy. Oh no. You guys sang the songs, you did the thing and then that guy's nuts. Then he jumps into a clip from a before show about

when he was happier. His project Veritas came to town. Oh, great. Yeah, and they proved that Google is trying to destroy info wars. They did a great job of not proving that. But that's how he kicks out of this downward esoteric spiral by playing somebody else. Yeah.

And then the rest of the show is whatever it is. Someone takes over the fourth hour, but Jesus. Man, I wanted him to really go on with that. No, he needed to get off there. He probably had a conversation. If I were Buckley, when he says, let the wolf die choking on my flesh. I'm not going to lie to you.

I'm a big fan of that. I'm a big fan of that saying. I like it. If I were Buckley, I would have a button and hit the button and someone would tackle the one who just come in out of nowhere and spear him off air. Alex, this is

we talked about this. We talked about it. Do you think Buckley has the balls to come up to Alex and be like, Hey, Alex. Maybe not so much with the wolf thing. I think Alex knows where his Buckley is buttered.

His bread is Buckley. You got it. Whichever way you want to do it. So I like that journey through Alex Jones's mind wherein he makes an accidental confession of something that we all should feel sympathetic about and

then learns that the guy he's been stumping for is probably more militaristic than he's been pretending. Or is an insane psychopath who doesn't believe anything. And Alex Jones, despite the fact that he is an insane psychopath, actually does believe things

inexplicably. And so he's coming up against the idea that somebody out psychopathed him. Right. And that is not something that he can handle. Well, and the fact that if we think about it, like Steve Pacenek has just fallen out of grace. Right. He also lost

Robert David Steele as a as a source for something within the last couple months. He's losing a lot of these dudes. And the British guy who said 1776 is the answer to 84. He died right after that. That's not important. He's finally coming to grips with the loss

now. Right. Right. It could be in the context of all the other things. Tragedy plus time equals that. So I think it's pretty funny. I do too. So like, I just think that there's probably a bit of like Alex.

I mean, it's easy. It's never going to become it's never going to get more than this. I don't think but he's struggling in this episode at least Friday the 13th. I don't know. Maybe it's a full moon. He's struggling super hard with the like the disillusion of and then he gets into that mode. It's probably

cathartic for him to just ramble and say nonsense on air. At the same time, it's like, you wonder why like you could never really be on television, Alex. That you wonder why people used to like, well, the moment he did get there, if he was on television, someone would stop him. Right.

That would be unacceptable. No, because that would turn into a fight. Exactly. So anyway, that's why Buckley can't have that button because then infowars would just be Alex Jones fighting whoever Buckley sends out of not against it, which would be a fantastic show. I'm for it. That would be the Chris Gethard show, but for a weird libertarian

right wing asshole. I'm into it. I know, right? I would watch that. Oh my God, we should have a button. And Alex Jones just has to fight somebody. Alex, hire us to fix your fucking show. We will whip Owen Schreuer into shape and get you a fight button.

Oh, that would that would denigrate our nah, you'd love it. You'd be lousy with millennials. You'd love it, Alex. We would get you so many viewers. So I told you to keep track of genuineness and having

a moral center. These ideas that he has about not lying and having like this is your your center. I want to play you two clips. One is from the Sunday October 8th show. And here is Alex Jones and Roger Stone having a little

conversation about Rex Tillerson. This is right around the time that Rex Tillerson said that Trump is a fucking moron. Cause he is. So, so, you're saying from your intel. Also, Alex is drunk on this Sunday show. Yeah. For sure. I mean, Trump already said it coming from the storm

that we are getting ready to hit North Korea. That's my very best intelligence coming out of both my military industrial sources, some of my White House sources. That's why I think the president was brusking putting down Rex Tillerson in

the tweet. Now everybody's talking about coming Rex. That's coming because I think he's gone by December. President lost confidence and started with Charles. So when he wouldn't back up the commander in chief. So real quick started when he wasn't a white supremacist. Exactly. That's exactly what he just

is where Roger Stone wants to pitch, which goes further into this. And Rex Tillerson is a white supremacist. Well, but not enough for Roger Stone. And again, he is later this day going to meet with the Milo. Yeah. So in an effort to

chow chow and brown nose, the mainstream media. And that's why they're saying now because Rex is adled and seen all things CNN and so as viewers, but it's just where these old people think, not it's old folks in general, but old folks that still think mainstream media is king when it's so uncool. He has

really bad mouth the president. He's done a lot. So now they're telling Rex Tillerson resign. Shouldn't Trump fire him before that? Well, you know, the problem is that when the president exercises that authority, the mainstream media then used it to show a lack of stability

in what is a very tumultuous court. Okay. So the mainstream media is going to use it to show a lack of stability in a very tumultuous court. Unstable court. They will use it as evidence of the thing that it is.

Alex, you realize Roger Stone is lying to you to your face and just making up words. Right now. Nothing means what it means with Roger Stone. Now that was on the 8th. Let's flash forward to the 16th. A little something else about Rex Tillerson.

It's time to panic about Trump. This is in the Wall Street Journal. This is in the Washington Post. This is being pushed everywhere saying he's going to start World War 3 because of North Korea when it was the system of appeasement

and of strategic patience under the Clintons that gave the reactors and the missiles to North Korea. So now oh, he's insane because he's listening to his military advisors on the policies there. Tillerson plays good cop

Trump plays bad cop and again CNN and others try to deceive the public acting like there isn't congruent strategy and stratagems going on inside the Trump White House. The truth is, internationally we've seen win after win against

the EU. So... I find it fascinating that like every... What's the point? Every profile on Tillerson fascinates me because it's always like he didn't want the job. Right. His wife

told him to take it. Yeah. He doesn't want the job. Nope. But now literally the only reason that he is still Secretary of State is because he's worried if he's not, Trump will nuke the world. Right. That's fascinating to me.

I mean, we're all going to die but that's fucking hilarious. I imagine there's some truth to that narrative but at the same time it's probably not. I think it's absolutely true. There's probably some embellishment. There's probably some Tillerson trying to save face. Tillerson is a... That's good PR for Tillerson.

No, I think Tillerson is a... One horrific monster who should be dead. Right. I want him dead immediately. Fine. But I do think that he is he's the Exxon Executive who has turned his

big fortune into an insanely big fortune. Fair. So he has some sort of cunning to him there. He has to know that he doesn't need this shit. No. He doesn't need this shit. No, probably not. He didn't want the job.

And now... And he's not getting what he wanted out of it. None of what he wanted out of it. Yeah. And he wants to quit because why would he want to do this? It is a constant shit in your mouth situation. Yeah. Nothing he does is ever good. Nope. Ever. Nope.

So the only reason he's there is because he's worried that if he's not Trump will murder everyone. That's all good. That's hilarious. That's all good. I mean it's sad and horrifying, but god damn it, that's funny. What's more important is the difference between those

eight days. Yeah. The narrative that he's pitching, the first one is that Tillerson is senile and he's on his way out and Trump should fire him. Yeah. And then eight days later he's like, hey, all the mainstream media tries to trick you and act like there's, there's not, they're not coordinated. Tillerson's the good cop, Trump's the bad cop.

Right. Right. There's, there's strategies going on simultaneously. It's just, it's just good, it's just good work. All that means is that, hey, Roger smoothed me out. Yeah. Roger gave me a talking to. Yeah. He updated my programming. Right. He threatened me about something.

Maybe he said I was getting too esoteric on the air on Friday. Yeah. Come back on Monday and do better. It's just so stupid. I don't think that, I don't think that's true. I don't think Stone cares what Alex says. I don't know. That's, that's too much speculation. I do know that it's like something had

to have happened to make him completely change his narrative about what's going on with Tillerson. I think Alex just has different mood swings. Probably. Yeah. I think that's more likely than Roger. When he's drunk. Roger gives him a talking to. When he's drunk, he hates Tillerson. When he sobers up, he's like, ah, it's all a plan.

That's far more likely to me. Yeah. I doubt Stone gives him a talk. I think, I think Stone just loves watching chaos happens. Probably. Yeah. So, Stone is loving it whenever he's like, ah, Tillerson's senile. Stone's just smiling at the back of his head and how. Look at this monkey. I can make dance.

Yeah. You know, probably be amazingly powerful feeling. Oh God, right? Yeah. Yeah. Alex Hyrus. I want to feel that way. Let's make. Oh, and show your dance. That's the that's Bushley. Yeah. That's that's Pop Warner. Yeah. I want to

I want to get up into the big leagues. Pop Warner propaganda. You got to go through it. You got to if you want to make the show, you got to succeed. Make a star Rob do right make a star. Make a star. Man, Alex, you've been trying for a decade. Yeah. That ain't happening.

So anyway, if you'd, uh, you know, go to our website. If you want to make a star out of yourself. No, no. Yeah. We have a website. It's called knowledge fight.com we're also on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. I am no longer on Twitter.

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Like we said earlier, let's not belabor it. Also, we're on Twitch every Monday through Thursday. I believe you will not be here tomorrow. I will not be here tomorrow or Wednesday, but you'll be back. I will be back on Thursday. Absolutely. But we will still be here 8pm central to break down all this

bullshit. Absolutely. It's been fun. Jordan. Good times. Love you, Dan. Love you too. But there's one guy I don't love. That was a great transition right. He's an old guy. You worked into the bit so well. He's an old guy. I thought the secret of 2017 was no more bits. Let me tell you about this guy. Okay.

Is there a bit? This fucking guy. This fucking guy. What guy is it? You know what? You know what? I have one thing I'd like to say about this guy. What? I hope that when the wolves come they choked to death on Joan Rappaport's flesh.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.