Knowledge Fight - #943: July 9, 2024

Episode Date: July 12, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex discussing "Operation Big Boy," bonding with his most impressionable employee, and making the terrible decision to reopen his Sandy Hook conspiracy files.

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I'm Andy and Kansas. I'm Andy and Kansas. I'm Andy and Kansas. I'm Andy and Kansas. I'm Andy Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a Little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan quick question for you so what's your bright spot today, buddy, my bright spot is I was waiting to get on a Video call okay, okay

And I was staring at myself because the other person hadn't arrived yet. And I was really doing some eyebrow work. I was like, I got more flexibility in the eyebrows than I thought. I've always thought that I had very unexpressive eyebrows. As I was looking in the mirror, I was like, I got some arch on them. Can you do the one? All right, that's not bad. It's not bad. It's not bad?

The one rised eyebrows, I definitely have worked on it. I've definitely... Yeah, I've got a solid one. That was something my dad raised me on. But you also incorporated the mouth, the little sneer in there too. But I think I can go fairly high to express surprise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I was thrilled to see it. I don't know. I don't know. I think, you know, I think you've probably kind of avoided

worrying too much about your eyes over the years, I imagine. Sure. You know, not really paying too much attention, looking too hard. Yeah. I like it. I like that. That's actually, to me, a sign of confidence.

Yeah, maybe. I mean, the eyes still crossed, but these brows go up. I think you're doing it. I think that's honestly, it might be a marker Positive things I've heard in a while My bright spot is I guess it's pot I guess it's about bright spot I texted you the picture so I was going through Listening to two concerts, you know, yeah. Yeah. Whenever I don't have a live album, most of the time I listen to music,

but sometimes I wanna listen to a live album. And so you gotta go to YouTube or something like that. And then I saw one of the ones that popped up was Daft Punk'd a live tour in 07 in Lollapalooza. And I was like, fuck yeah, I was there. Right? Crazy. So I clicked on it and I started playing it, and there I was! Yeah. I was like fuck yeah, I was there right so I clicked on it. I start playing it and there I was yeah Yeah, I was I was like and it's it's a weird

It's weird because I think it's fairly normal if you've been to a lot of concerts And you've seen a lot of concert documentaries you've probably been in the crowd. I was just one person in the crowd. Sure. But you're visible. Yes. Definitely. You're not just another person in the crowd. Very prominent. You're also blurry.

I wouldn't have been able to tell it was you, but you are prominent in the shot. The what's weird about it was that this was rare footage. I always liked a good rare footage. Yeah, yeah. And it was oh seven This was before they had a resolution You know

This was back whenever you had to spend money on a camera to get like a tour doc or something like that Yeah, yeah, so it's crazy. No flip phones. I have just I've just discovered my past on YouTube yeah in a weird place. And I guess that's a bright spot, but. That is interesting. Just like, there I am. Yeah, it's just an interesting thing to note. Somebody else should have been there.

I'm not that guy. I imagine a lot of people have had that experience, right? I've never had that. Seeing myself in a concert, but I don't go to that many concerts. Yeah, well, I mean, that's the issue. That's the issue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And who's making a tour doc in Columbia, Missouri?

Yeah, there is that. There is that. No, I imagine it's fairly, I mean, I bet people go to concerts now and everybody's got a camera, everybody's, so it's fairly common for them to be like, oh, I can see myself in that somebody's version of the show Yeah, yeah, you know seven that was not the case Is official business? Is official camera? Yep. Well, that's great. I'm glad for you spot. So Jordan today we have an episode to go over

Okay, we're gonna be talking about the 9th July 9th 2024 This shit sucks. It's bad. Um, that's it's a Spoiler alert Alex decides he's gonna start doing Sandy Hook conspiracies again So if you don't want to hear some of that stuff this might not be the episode for you. It's completely fucked up I don't know why he's doing this and I think this is actually one of the most inevitable things that could possibly I agree The most confounding yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we'll get down to business on this,

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So we start today's adventure off with the Alex has got a catchphrase for something that's happening in the world.

It's a lot of fun. All right. It's Tuesday, July 9th, 2024. NATO is meeting in D.C. for their anniversary of their founding, planning World War III, and the blubblers have launched Operation Big Boy. Infowars. Operation Big Boy. anniversary of their founding planning low war three and the blubbless have launched operation big boy. info wars

Operation big boy. Operation big boy. Oh yeah. That's in the title of the show. Operation big boy is in full effect. Operation big boy. Yep. Do you do you have any idea what Operation big boy might be? New restaurant? No, it has nothing to do with Bob's. Okay.

It is about people, a couple people said that Biden's gonna have a Big Boy press conference. Oh my God. Operation Big Boy. Yep. So Alex believes that the media has entirely turned against Biden and they're openly mocking him to his face

by saying he's gonna have a Big Boy press conference. That's fun. And Alex has decided, absent any proof other than a couple people have said big boy, he has decided that there is a behind the scenes coordinated attack called Operation Big Boy. I like it. I kind of do too. Yeah. I mean, it's good branding.

Yeah. After that, the president will hold a press conference, I guess a big boy press conference, is what we're calling it, and take some questions from you all. This week, President Biden will speak to national labor leaders of AFL-CIO, host the NATO summit to show the unprecedented strength of our alliance, hold a press conference, a big boy press conference, according to Justin Sink from Bloomberg. They are openly undermining the puppet in chief because he's refusing to step down. The knives are out for the evil pedo, the crib keeper, Joe the sniffer, Biden.

Operation big boy. Wait. Because he won't step down, so everyone's calling him a big boy. Right. What's the sniffer? Sniffing people's hair. There was like a meme that went around. Oh man. Because that could be kind of a cool nickname. I can see a world where like sniffer is like, oh he always knows what's coming around the corner. You know, like a war nickname.

Something like that, yeah. But not that. No, not cool. It's not good. So I so I just I think this is So quintessentially info wars because there's the need to give a name to something of course and then within a couple weeks I'm sure that operation big boy will be like a thing. That's real. Oh, yeah, and there will be documents Like operation lockstep. There's all these operations that just come out of shit talking I I like I like it, but it does mean that they're spending... Listen, if I'm globalists and I'm doing a consultancy thing where I'm like, how can we streamline? I'm like, you're spending too much time in boardrooms coming up with operation names.

That's just clearly a streamlinable thing. It's all part of the same operation operation. We work for the devil Yeah, the big boy so Biden is a big boy, but he is not actually in charge at the White House apparently oh we find out who is here So is the world leaders? from Europe from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization show up and And plan the larger war with Russia and China, the Defense Department spokesman and the White House spokesperson are openly talking about him having a big boy time.

Look, you're so smart, you answered all the questions. You're a big boy now. What are they going to do to Biden next is he arrogantly they even admit now hunter basically runs the White House crackhead lunatic Chinese communist spy alright folks I'm Alex Jones always that's always great Biden's in charge of the White House completely changed my tone to throw it out to break. Completely changed my tone.

I can turn it off and turn it on in a heartbeat, baby. Oh boy, that's always great. So yeah, Hunter is in charge. This is news. This would be... you ever see 25th Hour? No. It was a movie made by that guy about that stuff. Mm-hmm

Anyways, I think it's about Ed Norton, right and it's the 25th hour is he's been convicted of a crime, right? And he's having his last hour before he goes to jail. I've heard of the movie Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah Spike Lee. I think I believe is the Spike Lee, right? What if the 25th hour was set at the White House about Hunter Biden? Right? He gets to be president. Well, wouldn't he be pardoning himself through his dad right now? I was right, you'd think. If he was really in charge, I think there'd be different things happening. Oh well, who

knows? Because he's sending out emails like, totally President Biden pardon pardon hunter ASAP. I'm a big boy pardon big boy jr Whatever that's great So Biden is a big boy and show media is all turned against him now because the globalists have sent out their operation plans But what about Trump? Yeah, what's going on with him? What is going on with him? I sent the clip on July 4th, but I never saw it on my list not blaming the crew We took that day off, but you guys go back to last Thursday and pull up the Putin clip

Putin says he believes Trump sincerely wants peace and Then a few days later he met with another each European leader from Hungary Victor or bond They basically said the same thing I meant to play that that that's important to get on record but I just told you what Putin said. And Trump can end the war overnight because the US funds 80% of it. And then all Russia wants is that buffer zone, their border. They don't want to expand anymore. They got more land than they want. They know it's a nuclear war. If they did expand, they didn't start it. That's clear. So that's's that's where we are. Here is Putin. Well, great job crew. They found that clip seconds. I'm impressed. Here's Putin on July 4. You know, the fact

that Mr. Trump as a presidential candidate says that he's ready and wants to stop war in Ukraine. We take that very seriously. I'm sold. This is great. Mussolini wants peace. Coming up soon. Who endorses Trump? That's the headline for Alex, I guess, which is compelling and very interesting.

Also Orban. Cool. I do like a good foreign president being guess, which is compelling and very interesting. Also Orban, cool. I do like a good foreign president being like, we want that guy, he'll help us kill. Giving a speech on the 4th of July, too. Alex should be like, maybe this is a little on the nose. Nothing more patriotic than a president on the 4th of July doing what Russia asks him to do. Yeah. So we have a situation where the US and Russia are at a little bit of a conflict with each

other. Sure. And Alex's belief is that they're being played off against each other so they'll weaken each other so the globalists could come in for the kill. Okay. And he's used this metaphor a hundred times. Sure. It's like in that Bond movie where there's the fighting fish.

Right. And then Blofeld is like, the smart fish will wait until the other one, will stay out of the fight while the other two fight and then come in and kill whoever loses. Smart ass fish. It's always notable that Alex only ever quotes the worst human beings from movies. Well, and plays the clip repeatedly. He plays a very long clip from, I believe it's from Russia with Love here.

All that you say could be true. What else? As an added refinement, I think that Spectre would probably have the chance of a personal revenge for the killing of our operative, Dr. No. Let's stop there. And the reason I played this so much is the deputy head of the OSS and later MI6 wrote that He also wrote a book in the late 50s about releasing a bio weapon to kill every person on earth and the elite

Staying on a space station while we die Why do they tell you that because that's the stuff he was hearing and seeing as the deputy head of British intelligence grow up people and and admit what's being discussed in war games and see how you see fiction from sixty years ago that's now come true. You need to grow up. Bond movies are real. If I understand correctly, he is saying grow up up this thing I saw as a child is real Yes, okay

So also Alex is greatly exaggerating Ian Fleming's intelligence career because he wants to give undeserved credibility to his unhinged worldview that movies are secretly Whispering the future to him and only Alex is smart enough to see it Mm-hmm So the speech that Alex was playing from that that movie that was from Russia with Love, based on the novel of the same name, which was published in 1957. I think the bioweapon Bond movie that Alex is talking about is No Time to Die, which came out in 2021 and wasn't even based on a Fleming novel. I suspect he's conflating the bioweapon plot with the movie Moonraker which involved Hugo Hugo Drax killing off humanity from a space station sure That movie came out in 1979 and it's very different from the 1955 moonraker novel that Fleming actually wrote

For instance, there's no space base in the book That's just completely for the movie because Star Wars was a big hit in 1977 and the producers wanted to go to space Right, but sure everyone needs to grow up up and recognize that Moonraker is real. I might even go so far as to say it's possible Ian Fleming didn't know it was possible to get to the moon when that book was published. You know what else? What about the other plots of these movies? No, they're all true.

What about Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? What, what, which, which plots are true and which aren't true and why are each each? I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Like why would he write a completely different novel and be like ha ha, this one's fake as shit? Because it's just convenient for Alex

and he doesn't know, he thinks The Moonraker is like the movie, I guess. Eh. Anyway, we need to get to the stars. Yes. Alex expounds on that here a little bit. We've got the enemy's operation. We know how to beat them. We need prosperity and open, transparent civilization.

We need team humanity to come together and expand the stars in giant, aggressive, highly dangerous off-world activity under sea activity and full exploitation of the planet for the good of all life. We will green the stars if we can just get these people out of our way. We're literally a terraforming operation God created for the universe. We are the terra farmers.

We are the farmers. We are the builders made in the image of God little creator G What we envisioned 150 years ago is all reality now the globalists know that secret so they hijack human development human psyche human dreams and Projected into their operations All right, so I've covered the world war three NATO news as more develops. They certainly have wait was that covering the World War three? We don't notice part of it. Yeah. Yeah, because we go to green the stars gotta go to the stars now I do think there's a little bit of putting the card before the horse here sure also fundamentally disagree with his premise I

I Here's what I would prefer. I would prefer a plan for how to terraform this planet long before we get one to terraform exploit it I don't want that. I don't want that at all. That's what he's saying though He's saying you got to exploit all of the earth so we could terraform the stars and turn them green, right? I guess that would just be exploiting those things for a while, those stars for a while. Yeah, for the good of humanity though. For the good of all life.

For the good of all. Except for all of the life that would be killed on Earth by the... Evil people love saying things are for the good of all. It's crazy how often they do it. Yeah, I think he's a little... I mean it sounds fun, sort of. Like hey, we're gonna do dangerous space missions. Yeah stuff Yeah, it's fun. Just shut up

Anyway, I thought that most of this episode was largely like meh. All right, you know blowhard Whatever is kind of like operation big boys a little fun Yeah, but all in all it wasn't picking up steam until he said this That said the stars have aligned. I'm gonna mention this I'm gonna move on but I promise you before the weekends It's just a big task and I want to make it short and sweet and powerful, but it's got to be done. I was at Dinner or actually brunch Sunday morning with my wife and my two younger daughters and my mother and my mother again like every two years will tell me something she wants me to say. You ruined our lives.

Great instincts and she's an amazing person she doesn't get she never gets my business other than saying you're too fat, you need to exercise and stuff like that. Love you, mom. She looked at me across the table and she said, what has been done to us in America with the Sandy Hook thing

and how they set you up and what they've done. I want you to do a final word on it, not about what supposedly happened or didn't happen there 11 years ago, but on the process of the government and the media and the disinfo and what you actually said and what they said, you need to put a chronicle out before they shut down Infowars because as you know, there's a good chance it's going to happen. So I immediately was like, uh-oh, last word about Sandy Hook, he already made a video

by that name that was featured heavily in the lawsuits against him. So it harkens back to something that wasn't good. His mom told him he needs to do this. This is so fucked up. As soon as he said this, I was like, this is going nowhere good. I mean, I don't even know know I wouldn't know how to respond actually, you know what?

Here's how I would respond to that in the moment if I was in that conversation Obviously you need to do this There's just nothing else to say right to be a bad influence to him. That is what you would say I think there's just nothing else to say to him. This is Influence to him that is what you would say. There's just nothing else to say to him. This is It's it's almost like it's almost like it happened before we were born Like the moment it was like now is the time When it's way too late and I can only do damage to myself wise counsel would probably say

Don't do this. Don't do this. Shut up. You don't have long. You don't have to. Move along. You don't have to. There's no reason. There's no- nothing- evidentiary-wise, Yeah. Nothing has good has come of you talking about Sandy Hook. No. For anyone! And you don't need to, like, save your pride here. No! There's none to be had! This is ridiculous. Just shut the fuck up about Sandy Hook.

Can't we all go to bed? You're only gonna hurt people. That's all you're gonna do. That's it. But he goes on. Yep. And this is confusing. Okay.

But I don't sit around with my parents who I might see every week or two, probably seem like every week and a half, we don't sit around and talk about this. We talk about our family and we talk about, my mom's big garden, all beautiful flowers, the plants she's got. We talk about, you know, I'm also a garden all beautiful flowers plant. She's got we talk about, you know, trips. We want to go on.

There's my mother saying. You need to expose all this. Don't worry, mom. I will. But it's what they went a crap over a little more than four weeks ago, almost five weeks ago. I went on air and exposed what I believe was happening, what I was speculating. Because 95% of the time it's on record, I'm giving you my view, but 5% of the time I speculate. That's what they really don't like because

I'm usually right. And I explained with Pizzagate what really happened. How it's in the WikiLeaks they confirm is real Alistair Crowley rituals 7 year-olds being delivered to farmhouses in upstate New York for John Podesta the Democrats for their quote entertainment. That's in the WikiLeaks really meals. And so they had the New York Times and CNN focus. On a pizza place they did do fundraisers yet that did have weird Arnold Walls but didn't have a basement and they weren't raping kids there. So we didn't cover that. The media covered

4chan covering it. We then covered 4chan and the media covering it and they said we created it. Uh-huh. You see? So I was very confused because I was like, all right, your mom wants you to put out a final statement on Sandy Hook and here you are talking about how you were right about Pizzagate. And like, all this is delusional too. This is nonsense. I refer you back to Jack Posobic almost crying in Comet Ping Pong Pizza and doing a groundbreaking interview with Owen Troyer. Alex did not behave in the way that he wishes he could present here. This is total rewriting of history. Absolute bullshit. My mom told me that it's time to set the record straight. All right. So I'm going to give

you a long convoluted explanation of how I was right about something else. Yeah. I'm going to lie to you about how I was right about pizza. Which I was not right. Which I was not correct. Sweet, dude. Which I was not correct about. Yeah. All right. We're making mom proud here. Let's do it as convoluted as possible too. I want to make sure that there are at least double negatives on top of double negatives.

So I was confused how this related to his final statement on Sandy Hook. Sure. But he goes on and I think I start to get a sense of what he means. And I figured it out very quickly. I was on a five day vacation when the crew went ahead and covered it. Not blaming us what happened. And I came back and the crews like, why are you going to cover up this this pizza place? I said, it's a setup. Like when a mockingbird you get near its nest, it acts like its wings broken. It falls to the ground to get the predator to go after it. And then it flies off. They diverted us to that. And

I said the same thing happened with Sandy Hook. The police report, The EMT reports. You can look them up. I'm going to put this in their piece. Say when the police got there, they go in the bathroom and there's a pile of dead children in a pyramid with no blood. And the police report says, we believe they've been moved there. There was men in the woods on helicopter footage. I was covering the real thing. They picked a few operatives, a few professors, a few people that either work for them or are mentally ill to create a narrative that didn't happen

because it started coming out that it was something else, real kids died. Adam Lanza was CIA, that came out in the news. Look it up, Adam Lanza, CIA, the shooter, not me. I didn't kill him. You know my name, you don't know his, do you? And I explained that it looks like, because I was exposing what really happened, they then diverted off, I covered it,

then they made me that guy, and the rest is history. Holy shit. See, I was listening to this, and I'm like, I can't believe you're saying this, because this is about what could get you sued in the first place. Like this is directly against like you're maliciously causing harm to emotional distress to the victims and the families.

It's ridiculous you would do this. But then I was like, okay, I'm going to detach myself a tiny bit and try to understand what he's saying. So what he's saying is that it was faked. Yeah, there was it was a false flag. Yep. People actually died. But it was a false flag. And he was too close to the truth. Yep. So then the globalists had people like Wolfgang Halbig and Jim Fetzer come out and act crazy in order to discredit the truth that he was getting to the bottom of. Right. And that's insane. Sure, there's definitely that. There's definitely that.

This, I have no idea why you would behave like this. It's monstrous. You know what's crazy? I feel like it makes sense to me for some reason. Like there's a certain part of me that like gets into the head space of somebody who believes, perhaps 100% correctly, that everything has been taken from him.

And he literally has nothing left to lose, despite the fact that he is still ridiculously wealthy and will face almost no consequence. But he believes in his head that he has nothing left to lose. They can't do anything more to me. I owe them a billion dollars, right? Why not? All he has left is whether or not he believes he's a good person. Well, at a certain point, I do think you run into the potential of criminal charges. That's what we're all hoping.

Yeah. I think at a certain point, you have to have some kind of like contempt. Like, I don't know how it escalates, but yeah, it's like You're just what are you doing? Eventually the legal system has to see what we see which is that he's not going to stop on his own Well, no, and there's no way for him to stop on his own maliciously Yeah, yeah, whether or not like the primary goal is to hurt the people sure which is debatable. It's definitely part of it. That's the only effect of this.

There's a part of it too that has like a, I control narratives. That's what I do. My business is controlling narratives and now I feel free enough in some way that I can reclaim the narrative about Sandy Hook. Right. Yeah. So fucked up. Right. Yeah. So fucked up. Yeah, yeah, that is interesting.

Just stop it. It's fascinating because 99.9999999% of the time, I am absolutely 100% certain debtor's prison is wrong. But for some reason, I feel like maybe Alex should, until he pays off $1.5 billion, he's gotta go to jail, man. I can't justify that. Because I'd be very opposed to that.

Sure. But I think at a certain point, when you have had every luxury afforded to you to not hurt people, and not behave in ways that are like very clearly delineated out to you. This is why this is wrong. Yep. Big boy. Yep. This is why this hurts people. You need to fucking stop this at a certain point when you refuse to stop. You are causing harm to people in a way that

you can't be trusted to be a rat. I don't know if that rises to the level of incarceration, but it just feels like what else is there to do now? Whatever level it arises to is not for you and I to know. That's not our deal, right? We don't know that shit. But watching this is bleak. But what we do know, right, is that, I think, how about we do it Alex's style right or grow up? Eventually you have to say enough of that sooner or later you have to say enough. We're learning

We're learning a long list of things that haven't worked. Yeah, you know Yeah, and and I don't know if there is something that will work and you will finally understand the ramifications of his actions But it's clearly not yet. And that sucks. Yep. Because, I mean, this goes on. Within three days of me, five weeks ago, saying that, all hell broke loose and multiple lawyers and federal appointees from the Justice Department told the private security firm, you will shut the doors. They said, we have no court order. What are you talking

about? Then they tried it again. And they said, because of what he said a few days ago, he's got to go off the air now. The pressure is intense. They're ordering us. How do they order federal officials when they're just parties to a lawsuit? That's what freaked them out. That's why they panicked. So I remember Chris Matty, the federal prosecutor, now, you know, Democrat Party lawyer when he deposed me two years ago

in Connecticut for two days. He goes, read this transcript. And I'd read it years before, but I'd forgotten. And I'm it years before but I'd forgotten and I'm going to get the full video that we have rights to it. And I start reading the transcript of the police there and I read the next page and I go in the bathroom, the door is blocked. We forced the door open. There's a pile of children symmetrically arranged one from memory.

And there was no blood. We believe they were moved there and he goes whoa stop stop don't don't don't don't take a break take a break like he hadn't even read it oh wow that sounds wild um so i have that deposition uh you want to hear that passage from it we should go ahead and listen because this is we just heard alex is telling i mean he owns it yeah he has access to the tape so. Well I certainly do. Well we both do. We both know that.

We covered it in an episode. Indeed we did. But just to refresh your memory. This is grim and dark. But because Alex is making these fucking claims about what happened in the deposition, here is a six and a half minute clip from that deposition. I want you to read beginning with this paragraph I do not recall this is page four of eight. I do not recall if we regroup before proceeding I do not

recall we were before proceeding but my next memory is entering room eight and just moved to the right counterclockwise, did not see anything, getting some distance around the room. I moved down an aisle along the south interior of the room as I did so I observed the bodies of two adult females lying on the floor. There's the west side of the room. There was an open, partially open door. Side of this corner of the room. Initially thought this was a closet. As I approached the door, I was initially unable to comprehend what I was looking at. I started to disbelieve. I recognized the face of a little boy on top of a pile. The little boy was face up. I was looking at a profile of the left side of his face. The top of his head to the west.

I do not recall the position of the body. I then began to realize that there was other children around the little boy. It was actually a pile of dead children. I was able to recall specific images, but I recall that many had horrific injuries. Other than the two dead adult females, there was no obvious signs of blood or tissue

around the room. My first impressions was that children had been killed elsewhere and hidden in the bathroom. The face of the little boy was the only specific image that I got in the room. I do not recall my actions first. Hey, I recall someone blacked out. So I exit the room and also that my handgun was holstered at the time. Is that it? I wish I read that.

That sounds weird. No blood. So real quick, I'm gonna pause it here. Cause if you watch the video of this, Alex's eyebrows go up. When he reads this as if like, oh shit, I can work with this. There's a moment in the deposition where you can see almost excitement about this.

Now this is something that came up in the Texas depositions as well. This passage from Bill Cario's police report, and Alex is saying that there was no blood, but what he was saying in the report is outside of the two adults, the classroom, there wasn't more blood. There was plenty of blood where the kids were. You don't have to worry about that. Alex has had that explained to him. He knows this. He understands this. He's exploiting this. So stepping out of room 8, I observed the rooms in the east were being evacuated.

There were police officers in both directions. I decided that my services were basically allowed if I to EMS capacity. Others worked to clear the building. I have an active EMS rescue association. I have held a certificate in EMT for 32 years. You read this when this report came out in late 2013. Correct? Objection?

Objection. I think I even, yeah, that's pretty weird that there was no, they didn't see blood. Because if I've done a lot of hunting, deer and stuff are like mammals, the same thing, similar, a lot of, I mean, that was interesting part there at the top. Again, I'm not saying this report's even fraudulent,

just with Dr. Frederick Weihers, one of the head guys of the FBI crime lab saying crime lab saying that they knew people were just basically framing thousands of people that's where more of the you know a lot of the confidence is lost in government reports that's why it's normal to question them. You're saying that you you read this at the time and questioned I don't remember. I remember saying that. That you read this report of Bill Perio at the time and it caused you to suspect that this was further evidence of there being a hoax because he did not report the presence of blood. Can I read that again, please?

No, I'm asking the question. I'll have to read it again. I thought that was just interesting. Okay, well, you just testified just now, as you were reading this, that, hmm, isn't that weird? And you said that you were surprised. He said he was surprised. You're saying that in what you just read, Sergeant Cario said that he was surprised about what? I'll have to look at it again. I can't remember everything I read.

I can't see it again. He says, I am unable to recall specific images, but I recall that many had horrific injuries, correct? Other than the two adult, the two dead adult females, there was no obvious signs of blood or tissue around the room. And my first impression was that the children had been killed elsewhere and hidden in the bathroom so he says other than where the two adult females were you didn't see blood in that area correct you know where the children were found I think it's a better and that's where you'd expect. Are you

suggesting here in reading this? Are you still trying to maintain for some reason that you think this report is further evidence of suspicion because you think that Sergeant Cario didn't adequately describe the presence of blood? Is that what you're doing? He said he was surprised and that's what a lot of people, I remember that got discussed vaguely, that a lot of people said okay but there weren't. Who said it? I don't remember. He said he was surprised and I'm sorry I'm surprised too. Surprised at what? I mean if people have giant blood holes in them, they're killed there, there's blood all over the place.

And maybe there is. All I'm saying is that's the kind of stuff people cherry pick. And that's what gets in people's heads, I'm just being honest. Were you being honest when you read this, that Sergeant Cario was an EMT and was working as an EMT in the building, when after you claimed that there were no EMTs in the building, is that honest?

Objection. I'm just, I'm confused. I was going off earlier reports when people said, I'm just saying that's very interesting and he was surprised. Mr. Jones, you said in 2017 that no EMTs were allowed in the building, right? You agree with me that clearly there were. Objection. He was surprised by the way the children looked like they'd been placed there. Sergeant Carrier was

surprised if the children had been placed there. He said it looked like he thought someone had placed them there. No, we said Mr. Jones that his first impression was that the children had been killed elsewhere. That would mean placed there. That would mean placed there. They were killed elsewhere. They'd have to be placed there This can stay this can stay in so that is a little different than the way Alex characterized it Just a little bit. I don't think Chris Maddie freaked out and was like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, of this situation, the actual experience, the thing that people were going through, and Alex has zero respect for it at all.

It's shocking. It's terrifying to see, honestly. I mean, you said it. What else? I can't put it any more bluntly than just playing that clip from the deposition. After his characterization of it, you can see exactly what happened. He didn't play that clip from the deposition. Oh, but he's the guy who obsessively plays clips.

Go fuck yourself. Yeah. Anyway, Alex might be killed because he's on to the real Sandy Hook conspiracy now. Finally! And then I remember all the other weirdness. We turn that in and discovery the clips of the news, the helicopters with the men in Camel in the woods, and they freaked out about it. And I remember the judge in Texas saying I'm going to default you. You didn't put that discovery

about the men in the woods. I went well we did. They're like men in woods. You just stop talking about that. I was I was too dense to go like what you're saying. I said it didn't happen. What is men in woods? I was so we we we now have figured it out. I mean, who knows? I may be driving home today and they claim a carjacker kills me in a red light. I mean, folks, the CIA is running this. They've been caught on video admitting it with the FBI head in Connecticut at the time. And when I talk about men in the woods

and piles of dead kids with no blood, baby, they go bonker town. So no matter what happens to me, in fact, I'm telling the researchers, guys, get me the police reports that are finally made public, they try to suppress them. They suppress them for six years. I want the police reports. I want the EMT reports.

I want it all. We have now figured out what happened and how we got set up. And Joe Rogan a few days ago talked about his own understanding how I got set up. And so the internet and the population, because we're the real AI, billions of us together, we are figuring out what really happened here. Yeah, by all means, rope Joe Rogan into this. I'm sure he's gonna love the outcome of that. You dumb asshole.

Like this idea that people went bonkertown, it's because you're hurting these people. This is like, of course, people would be very offended by you still trafficking in these theories after they have been disproven, debunked, explained, and you've had to go through a years long process where people tried to explain to you why it was bad what you're doing, what you're doing. Like, this is, to explain to you why it was bad what you're doing what you're doing like this is of course of course if you get sued over all this shit and then uh like every measure through the civil court system the bankruptcy system has gone through and you're still like hey why is there no blood like of course people are gonna be like shut him down what the fuck is this Like of course people are gonna be like shut him down. What the fuck is this?

Bunker town. Yeah, I'm trying to focus on on positives none right and that is there is one positive. All right, and that positive is that because We covered these depositions Norm Padas had to pay 30 grand. So I'm focusing on that. Like, hey, that's good. It's a bright spot. It's a thing that happened. So if you're going to do the deposition where you remember listening to this horrifying human being be horrifying, remember that we cost 30 grand. Yeah, for some billable hours.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Alex is really latching onto this this no blood thing. And it's gross. And so I'll be honest with you, I don't know what really happened, but we need congressional investigations. We need statewide investigations. We need hearings on why does the report say there's a pile of dead kids in the bathroom. They got to force the door open. There's no blood because you shoot somebody there's blood everywhere never shot people but I've shot wild hogs and deer and bobcats and well I've just shot a lot of things people mountain goats trying to imply that it's

not the fun of killing something it's the fun of shooting something at 800 yards right in the chest, putting the back of the Jeep, taking it, cutting it up and barbecuing it. It's delicious. But what I'm getting at here is that you shoot something, blood goes everywhere with a rifle. Police go there and they go, there's a pile of dead kids and they can't get around a pile of dead children. Hey, you sick fuck. You're talking about denying these children's murder. And where your brain goes is, I like killing animals.

It feels good to shoot something in the chest and then eat it. Why is this the, like, his brain is so fucked? I, you know, here's what I, here's my pitch, okay? Here's my pitch. All right What we do is we play this for the bankruptcy judge, right? So we play this clip for the bankruptcy judge and it's worse in its entirety Oh, I'm sure I'm sure I guarantee you if you listen to this whole stretch

I can't do it justice just by playing selectively believe my jaw was on the floor. I believe you. So we play it for the bankruptcy judge, okay? And here's all we have to say, like, hey, bankruptcy judge, you have not done a good job so far. All right? What do you think of that? But you know what? That's fine. Because now you got a second chance. But let me tell you this, I'm going to play this video for you. And if you fuck this up moving forward, you have no idea how little people are going to believe in the legal system after this It's like this is Inevitably the outcome that everybody said was going to happen. Yep

We said it Alex can't not do this cannot Whether it's compulsion or business motivation or whatever. Yep, or Oppositional defiance. Whatever it is. He's a big boy, but he can't help himself. Everybody knew that this was the ultimate outcome. I'm shocked it's this fast.

I'm shocked. I mean, yeah, it's almost nice of him, honestly, too. Like, well, at least we got it out of the way pretty quick. I guess. I mean, it's still a long time, but I thought it'd be five more years before he's like, you know what? Fuck it.

I was right about saying that. You know what? Fuck it. I was right about all of it. Yeah. And the judge, when they raise this, they said he's talking about Sandy Hunt. He goes, he has a First Amendment to move where he wants. But I didn't say go pee on kids' graves.

I didn't say go to parents' houses. I never did any of that. And no one ever did that. They just made that up, the media, the Democratic Party. But what I did say is there's a pile of dead bodies in the bathroom, the cops got up, forced the door open, it's in the police report, it's in the EMT report. Why don't you want that disgust? Now I understand. Now I got your number. And I don't know what they're gonna do now because the last time I spent three minutes on this

and just mentioned it, all hell broke loose. Like I hit an open nerve with salt. For folks that don't know, putting salt in the nerve, that's what causes the pain. That's like the worst pain. Got an open nerve, put a piece of salt on it. Whew. So I'm not that smart but i've been doing a lot of stuff for 30 years so you kind of figure stuff

out when you're in this and you figure out like a b-17 bomber in world war ii before radar was deployed they did vetted it but it wasn't deployed it was deployed the british coast deployed. It was deployed the British coast, but it wasn't deployed across Europe. They didn't, they had rough maps and how fast they're flying and following topography and they're trying to hit German, you know, factories and troop formations. They learned wherever the anti-aircraft was shooting at them, that was where the target was so you flew into the flag. Well, that's what I do. I'm like, well, I'm sure as hell getting attacked for this. And I think I'm like everybody else.

You attack me when I'm over the target. You think I go away because of the pain. I go towards the pain, but I couldn't figure out what was going on. Like I'm a Sandy Hook guy. I go pee on graves. I, what is this years after I barely covered it? What's happening?

What did I do? What did I, what did I say? I was on the trail of what really happened the other shooters. Yeah, man I was on the right track and that's why all this happened. I don't believe that Alex is this dense I don't believe he's this stupid. I I have to like It feels like he's trying to get taken off air, right? I mean it feels like that was my first thought I'm not sure I stand behind that sure but it feels like okay Look, there were there were like severe consequences the last time I did Sandy Hook stuff

So I'm gonna go really hard in that direction Infowars is a vestigial organ for me at this point if they shut it down great Dr. Jones naturals is where the money's at I don't give a shit Yeah, just end it. I mean I think I feels like that's what he wants. I I feel here's the problem I Feel like that's probably the move he's got Maybe I don't like what but you know like You know I was I was just thinking about him being like ah they're gonna say that it was some carjacker and his red stoplight And I was just like man

The only way that Alex can die is in old age and obscurity or in a patriot lore way Right if he just dies of a regular ass accident, then it's going to be a mess forever and ever and ever right? Yeah, so if info wars is just shut down like the lights just get turned off No, that's what that's why he did that day-long stream. That's what he was hoping to be taken off air like Sweet could scream dr. Jones naturals while he's being dragged off set Yeah, he wants that that sort of that's the idea. I think he's trying to court that with this That's what it feels like but I'm just interpreting what I see his behavior is being there's another reality where he's just like Doesn't fucking matter anymore. I mean yeah

I mean, you know to your earlier point like oh I received bad consequences when I did this the last time That's part of the problem with that's why the bankruptcy judge needs to see this, to be like, buddy, he didn't receive consequences yet. You've got the, it's you, you've got to take the ball, you know? He believes that consequences are a sign of his virtue. Right. And it's difficult. Yeah, you got to, it's got to, You got to take the ball and go score, buddy So it turns out sandy hook apparently was fake now. Alex is comfortable just I guess

Retreating this sure. So why do you care that I just five weeks ago? Just said, you know, I think I figured this out This is what I think's going on. We need to know No, do not look at kids do not look at dead of kids! Do not look at what's in the bathroom! Do not talk about it! Shut up! Shut up! No! No! No! God! No! Do not! No! Please! No! Stop! Shut up! Oh! Oh! Me thinks you protest too much! Oh, me thinks you protest too much. It's like cops in your car. They pull you over. There's marijuana smoke.

Everybody looks all methed out. The cops are like, where are you going? What you doing? Been drinking? Mind if I look at the glove compartment? No, no, no, no, don't do that. Oh, cops are like, I'm getting a warrant. Open the glove compartment, methamphetamine.

It's like, oh, kids didn't die. Oh, great. Alex Jones said that Alex Jones denying Alex Jones peeing on graves. Alex Jones second families. I'm like, I just said maybe people were right. Maybe it didn't happen. You know, Operation North was planned to crash planes and never crash blow planes that never got blown up. I said, Yeah, it could happen. Who knows? Oh my god, you're the worst. Because they wanted to make it about that but

it's just like hey what about the pile of dead kids with no blood now now we owe Adam lands in the CIA whoo Oh, you know, the calls are getting made right now, the alarms are going off, Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr their whole reelection campaign off of this. Everything with them was about this. This is their big event to get the guns and get the first amendment and get everything. And so what are we gonna do? Jones is poking around. It was an anti-terror drill, a mass shooting drill.

Men in the woods, helicopters picked them up. On the news, we have the footage. What do we do? Just have some more lunatics go out and say it didn't happen and pump them, give them huge attention. Jones will go cover it. Then we'll blame him for it. It'll work like hell. And we did it. Well, guess what? As Mark Twain said, a lie goes halfway around the world where the truth puts his pants on, but in the end though truth will win. Wow. You solved the mystery you piece of shit. What an asshole. Like there's no other way

to respond to this than just I can't believe it. I can't believe he's doing this. You know, part of my horrible person, part of that is, you know, and I found my, when I found the Daft Punk concert, one of the concerts that I had listened to just a few concerts before that was Kendrick was the the LA party. I was listening to Not Like Us and you know that part in any great song where if you're watching it live, the artist can just put his mic out, you know, and then the whole crowd, not just the people who like the song, the whole crowd sings it. I feel exactly like that because I feel like what just happened was I pointed the mic at our audience and they screamed so loud I could hear it and I didn't say anything.

I heard all of them screaming. I did. I can feel nothing but I mean it is it is like what's it what it would be if you if you still need me after listening to that I don't know how to make you emotional. Yeah. You know and and if you need me to re explain the details about why Alex's theories about Sandy Hook are full of shit. Yeah. Then I don't you don't need I what am I doing here? It's in a positive way in the most positive way I can think of this right.

I wish there were a God who would just be like cool buddy and then take him to heaven. You know have him have him have the best day. He goes up to heaven in a golden circle of light and we all know he's happy forever and that's fine So long as he is not in this room, you know, it's uh, I Don't know. I mean it's hard to even process like it really is how a person can Find it within themselves To do this. I mean if I feel like if I were a psychopath, I would be like, man, this guy's amazing.

You know, like I feel like, hey. Breaking new ground. I don't agree with a lot of what he's saying, but you gotta admire him for the way he does it. The craft, the commitment to the craft of being a shithead. It's just amazing. Yeah, a psychopath has to look at this in just awe. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

So you remember, obviously, Alex talked to Elon Musk for a while. Sure. And he said, like, oh, yeah, PR firm was behind this. Totally. And then Elon Musk was like, hey, what's that PR firm? I don't know. And Alex said, I don't know. Yeah.

I'll look it up. I'll look it up. I forgot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we found out what it was by context clues from what Alex was talking about. Yeah. He still doesn't remember now weird They live off me They had PR firms go and say I sell these and Elon Musk when I was in a two and a half hour interview with him months ago, I Said a PR firm did this they brag me. He said what's the name?

And I said, I can't remember he goes get it to me and I never did that. Don't worry Elon Musk You're gonna get the report with the PR firm. It's going to be bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, federal officials say they're gonna censor all Americans, I got it all, I got their ass. But why would they order federal officials and say the federal officials, we've been given orders by the Sandy Hook people to shut you down after what you said, what you said last week. You said kids died.

You said there was a pile of dead bodies in the police report with no blood, which is in there. You know, oh, you, you, you shut up right now. I'm like, well, what? And now, you know, the rest of the the story as Paul Harvey would say. I don't know exactly what went on the groups all of it but it's got federal globalist fingerprints all over it. I know the persecution on myself and the First Amendment was run by the feds they admit that

it's come out in court they testified to it they hit it in plain view like they're probably what do we do about it coming out? The FBI ran this with the CIA. Well, we'll just testify it in court and hide it in plain view, make it no big deal. So, you were the director of the FBI in Connecticut. Yes, I was at the time. And so where'd these lawsuits came from?

Well, Mr. Jones was a bad person. And well, what happened to you? Well, one guy called me once to see if I was an FBI. Oh my God, well, you get $130 million. Well, what was it like? Well, I went to me once to see if I was an FBI agent. Oh my god Well, you get 130 million dollars. Well, what was it like? Well, I went to the Koskov law firm run by the Democratic Party and I organized all this and then I mean again They think you're stupid. You're not stupid. You're busy. You're distracted. But now you know That we're not getting the official story The real story we're getting the official story. The real story. We're getting the official story. But to me, the official

story is reality. So Alex is attacking William Aldenburg directly and feel like he's probably putting target on him in some way, probably inappropriate. Seems like these are the kind of behaviors you would hope to curb through lawsuits. I mean, yeah, that's, that is kind kind of that's kind of where we're at, you know, like, if that's what you like, I don't know what to tell you. If that's the system we live in, and that's what we got, then it was exhausted. And here we are, he gets to say, stop, you know, it is it is almost like I think he gets to say it now. I think he gets to do whatever he wants because the system failed.

I don't think that he gets to, but... No, you understand what I mean when I say gets to, but you know what I mean? It's shocking. If no one is going to stop him, then yeah, I guess go for it. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. I can't understand not stopping yourself. I can't understand not stopping your fucking self sure because

Alex if he has any presence of mind or he's not a completely Detached from reality person which he is because he goes about his life and the way he does. Yeah He's had to have so many things brought to his attention about the reality of Sandy Hook and what people went through. For instance, Scarlet Lewis being able to testify to him, to his face while he was in the courtroom. Sure.

He has to know the impact that these theories have had and his behaviors have had. He has to know like what these people have gone through. And from a decency perspective, you would think, okay, dodged a bullet in a large part on the lawsuit front. Sure. I like the the dukes of hazard, I managed to get away from this share or whatever I eluded consequences. But I have learned that this hurts people. I, in an effort to be a better person, don't want to put these people through this. You would think that he would stop himself because this is insane. You know, I mean, the thought process though, I, I'm not trying to know anything, but it makes a certain kind of sense. If you think about it from the angle of like, me first, me over all first. So if you think about it that way, right? Then

what's most important to me, if I'm me first, is thinking I'm a good person. I am a good person. if I'm me first, is thinking I'm a good person. I am a good person. Now, if I am demonstrably a monster, then what does my brain have to do? It has to either accept that I am not what I am. It has to turn the actions of a monster into a good person. Or it has to turn the actions of a monster into a good person.

And I think we all live with some level of that. You know, we all live with some level of being able to throw a basketball at a hoop. But Alex Jones is the LeBron James of lying to yourself about how you're a good person. I can't put it better myself. I mean, so here is some more bullshit. The problem is, there's too much evidence of weirdness. And again, I'm gonna tell you, I don't know. It's like playing Clue or something. Like, I don't know what the hell happened. I don't know why they did this to me.

I don't understand all the angles of it. I just don't want to do the things they said. And then they totally go ape shit when I bring up pile of dead bodies with no blood. It's in the damn police report. They'll sue me for that. It's in the damn police report. And they're like, no, you need to back off of that right now.

And they're like no you need to back off of that right now No, no no no no That may be the whole show now should just is I'm gonna get it all together. Okay. I'll show you that I'll show you the transcripts. I'll get the Chris Maddie Deposition with me where I'm reading it, and then he completely flips out. You've seen him put the clips out. They want on national TV, but they don't want this clip out. And then I opened the door. It was hard to open and went in.

It was the children were piled in a rude pyramid. One for memory. A pyramid, there was appeared to be no blood and it appeared the children had been moved and stacked there deliberately. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. What? What? What? What? Okay, I'm gonna stop now. This is just mind blowing.

So we heard the clip from the deposition that Alex is misrepresenting but this whole no blood thing I'm just gonna read this from Bill Cario's police report Which is the same source that Alex is claiming to get his no blood claim for from Quote as we ran across the parking lot with the children I began to realize that my uniform was soiled with blood and tissue from room number eight I didn't want the children or parents to recognize this and I broke away from the group. As I walked back toward the school, I passed a triage station.

I asked EMS personnel for a towel to wipe my uniform. Several just stared at my uniform, but one stepped up with a towel to help me clean myself. Alex is an absolute monster and he has every reason to know that what he's saying is a load of bullshit. And the only effect that this is gonna cause at all is causing these family members more distress. He is so full of shit. I have zero idea why he's doing this. And to make it worse, he said that this mom's idea, what is he doing? Yep. This is one of the sicker twists I think that

the show has taken in a long time. This is just indefensible on a hundred levels. Yeah. Yep. I mean, we're just past the point of, you know, I suppose it's time for Operation Big Boy, okay? We need to put on our big boy pants and deal with this fucking problem because this is ridiculous. It's ironic that Operation Big Boy was discussed in this. Yeah, entirely about Alex Jones. So they're really scared of him covering Sandy Hook. Oh God.

And by scared, what it actually means is it really hurts people and you're a monster and you suck, but they're scared. So I'll say it again. I don't know what's going on, but they don't want us looking into this area for a reason. And they're scared and they're freaked out. And they tried to lock the doors with federal officials outside of a court order illegally out of total desperation because I covered it for three minutes as a side issue. But that's how you learn what they're scared of. They're so mad I said kids died now. Okay. Oh, I get it because I'm the guy that said they didn't see which I was the guy that just covered people saying that. All right, we're gonna go to break. Please remember we can't do this historical operation without you. We have a huge show going

at m4store.com. If m4 is going to shut down, let's say the last time you ever get it. You're a real piece of shit. Just I was here's what I'm thinking, right? So like I listened to that and my first instinct especially that last clip to be like I just I've we've already we know enough Mm-hmm, you know, We don't need to hear this anymore. And then my next thought was, if we hadn't heard this, all of us would have assumed at some level, of some amount, Alex has slowed down or stopped this specific thing.

Yeah, no, here's the, I would assume it was beneath him. Yeah, we we Would live in a world where we did not know the depths of this Yeah, simply because we just assumed that it wasn't that bad, you know I wouldn't think this shit was possible that he would do this We wouldn't think this shit is possible proven that I don't know Enough about Alex Jones quite frankly because I would have thought he would know at least like this is territory Where I'm not gonna dance around anymore. Yeah, I do feel like maybe this is true of everything like What you want to believe is going on is when you stop paying attention

And then whatever happens, you know, like that's kind of this is what I'm saying. You know, like why not's kind of, that's what I'm saying, you know? Like, why not do this? Why not? Yeah. Well, consequences are yet to be seen. This might end up blowing up in his face somehow. Totally. I want that. We all want consequences for actions.

But ironically, Alex might too. I think he does. I think we all are finally agreeing that the legal system is failing everyone seems to be courting the legal system to be like all right Dare you guys to have the balls to fuck is definitely talk to my courts a little bit I mean, whatever whatever they get to do whatever they want So fucking afraid of me talking about Sandy hook come and get my products I mean, I would say I would say they're afraid of him but not for that not for that. So Alex, of course We've got the info or store. She had a lot of things there. Sure. He also has dr. Jones naturals

Oh my god, but guess what? Better no Alex has a bunch of different companies apparently sure be lay in bed all day and do nothing You know you're gonna lose but if you engage the enemy for decades and decades or even a month You're gonna see a whole world open up to you, but I can't take on these organized tyrants without your support I need your prayer and your word of mouth and I need you to go to dr Jones naturals comm and get great products right now because that's separate from Infowars. They shut Infowars, Dr. Jones is still there. And they're like, oh, we'll just shut that sponsor down. I got 100 more lined up, but that's my daddy. He's got great products.

I ain't going nowhere in New World Order and I've got your number. I've got your name. I've got your ass. I think Alex got a little bit too excited gloating there and is indicating that he has a lot of plans in place to commit fraud in case the businesses that he is funneling money through end up becoming the target of an investigation. And it would be a real tragedy if, you know, those became obvious ahead of time. Yeah. Maybe you should be more careful. You know what? I'm going to throw this out. I'm going to throw this out at you. Maybe he should be more careful. You know what? I'm going to throw this out.

I'm going to throw this out at you. A lot of people, you and I both, grew up in the Midwest with the young life, with the youth pastors, with the conversations. Why does God let blank happen? We've had those conversations, right? Why doesn't he blank lightning bolt that kind of stuff? I would put it this way I think from what I know of the Bible God is far more pissed off at people who are that proud

Mm-hmm that defiant of consequences. Yeah, that was way more important to him than any tragedies whatsoever. Yeah There's a bit of as Alex Alex would say, hubris in saying, I have hundreds more of these fake businesses. Hubris is like the thing God is pissed at the most. Yeah, but God, when he gave him that vision when he was a kid, he told him, you're cool on that one. You can be hubris-y.

That's totally fine. I mean, this God guy has got to really figure shit out. So someone who has it all figured out. Yep. Chase Geyser. can be hubris I mean this god guy's got to really figure shit out so someone has it all figured out yeah chase Geyser so this episode sucks thank God for chase coming in we needed a little bit of something else here at the end after Alex decides fucking Sandy Hook is fair game again yeah great so we got chase Geyser coming okay they're gonna do some Twitter spaces George Papadopoulos calls in apparently that was great that's great We're not gonna listen to anything, but I

thought it was funny because it's like, even if you believe that Russia stuff was all a hoax, you still should think George Papadopoulos is fucking stupid. Yeah. Yeah. Even like if you're a denier of everything, he's an idiot. Yeah. But they talked to him for like half an hour. Sure. but here's a little chase You know, it's interesting because I follow NATO on X and I'm always Incredibly triggered by the content that they post because it's just propaganda after propaganda after propaganda yesterday I noticed that while they were showing a compilation a montage of clips of tanks and helicopters and bombers and munitions and world leader after world leader who has called for war with Russia over the course

of the last several years now. They had this hopeful, optimistic music in the background in this message. I can't remember the exact way that they phrased it in their post, but this message about how NATO has been responsible for 75 years of peace. And it's been this greatest thing when the fact of the matter is it's been responsible for some of the greatest escalations of all. And in recent years having seen the way that this has been playing out with with Russia and this Ukraine

conflict, it begs the question whether or not NATO was ever a good thing to begin with. It begs the question whether or not the Cold War was ever actually a legitimate threat to begin with. It seems to me now obvious that it was very likely the military industrial complex and the intelligence community intentionally created or manifested the notion of the Cold War in order to justify increased spending so that they could line their own pockets. Yeah man, Chase has become so anti-NATO that maybe the Cold War was an exaggeration. Maybe the commies weren't so bad. What would his, like everything that Infowars is based on is

anti-communist nonsense that's a holdover from John Birch Society shit and the Cold War Yeah, this is so crazy. Yeah, maybe maybe the commies weren't such a big deal because I don't like NATO Doesn't even realize how stupid this is on this show it does it feels like chase is It feels like chase is a bad dog I don't I don't necessarily want this to be like something that follows me around but I do feel like I bet sometimes for chase if you hit him with a rolled-up newspaper. He would stop believing things. It's possible I wonder about object It's just I think if you were just like hey stop following NATO it would go away. He wouldn't even know Why are you saying NATO? You're insane.

Why are you? One, I didn't know NATO had a Twitter account. I kind of assume. You would assume. Two, stop it, NATO. I just think it is probably illustrative and maybe a good lesson to learn that you can take one thought, which is fuck NATO, and you can go so far with it that you end up Sort of kicking your own ass

Being like maybe the Cold War was all hype. Yeah, it's just I don't know. It's a circle. I mean You know, I how about this that might be a test Maybe we should try that maybe that's like a geometric proof You know where we need to keep trying different possible solutions to make sure that this one's actually a law But I do feel like maybe if what you believe Can be like kicked so far that you don't believe it anymore On a straight line it validate the underpinnings of literally everything you've ever believed. You probably don't believe it or it probably doesn't make sense.

No, you probably don't. So Alex rants a little bit here about how everything in the world is black and white and this is just stupid. Makes sense. And we have a corrupt, decadent elite that sold the country out seven ways a Sunday. They think being sociopathic is cool. They think not. It's like in Dune when the Benny Jesuit says, she says you picked the wrong side. She goes there is no sides. All there is is sides. I'm the sides guy. Things matter. Who you come from. Who you're trying to. What you stand for. What God you worship. What you do every day. What you build. What you create. That's you worship what you do every day what you build what you create that's who you are and anybody that tells you there's no sides is the devil all there is is

black and white all there is is up and down all there is is red and blue all there is is green and yellow all there is is up and down it's's complete gravity. It's real, folks. It's all real. You must choose a side. The Bible says you were neither hot nor cold, so I spit you out of my mouth. God says Satan is better than some

fit-sitting piece of shit. So, in a matter of years, we've gone from a career that's built on being above the left-right paradigm to Alex screaming, I'm the sides guy I'm the sides guy What an asshole what a thing to say about oneself Yeah, let alone another human being mr. Sides. I'm mr. Sides

Also you like sides also you like you don't you don't understand what you're saying whatever what you're saying is what you're saying like oh you chose the wrong side there are no sides there's only sides there's only sides and there are no sides equivalent statements no no no no yes you just don't understand dune fair enough and thankfully. Yeah, chase Yeah, actually, this is the most excited I've been on this show for a long time well enjoy Here's a little bit. Okay, you know it's interesting I never thought about the Benny Jesuits in this way

But you mentioned that from dune and I want to get into weeds on on dune on this broadcast Organization though only organization that is that whole entire universe that goes in every single house get in the weeds on Dune on this broadcast. The book, the movie. It wasn't an organization though. Only organization that, in that whole entire universe that goes in every single house. It's literally a globalist organization. Everything else is siloed. Every other house is sovereign to itself, loyal to itself. But their globalism is the catalyst

for total universal galactic war. It goes back to the goddess, it's the woman. Yes. And then, so only that cult could take over Wow Which Herbert was super thinker a glider books or was he? Absolutely on the movies He's telling you the whole secret out there Old-fashioned artillery old-fashioned. Oh my god genius

Old-fashioned artillery. Old-fashioned. Oh my god genius Okay There oh man that was just so good. It's just I just and the way they end it too with that Abrupt I mean, it's just so dumb. It's just so dumb Alex. I think likes the Harkin ins I Would assume so so the band bandages are the globalists. I do love the idea that. That's a goddess.

Like think about this, I'm gonna throw this out there, all right. For us, just think about men in the 60s, right. And if they create an evil organization that controls everything and make it only women They might be dealing with something they might be dealing with something that's not like figuring out the secret. Mm-hmm Yeah, so we got one more clip here Yeah, and this I think has a little bit more of that coach McGurk and Brendan energy. They're just so crazed

Love it. This is Alex explaining to Chase that fighting is in the gut. No. Yeah. It's almost two of those. Yeah. When you really want to fight, it's not a mental thing because mentally you decide to make a decision in your life, it's in your brain and you really love a woman, it's in your heart. You feel the love of a woman in your heart, but's in your brain. And you really love a woman, it's in your heart. You feel the love of a woman in your heart. But when you decide to beat somebody's ass, like somebody just knocked you upside the head and your nose is broken and they're about to kill your ass,

it's in the gut. It fires up like fire in the belly and you're like, oh, that's like, it's in the gut. It's the fire in the belly, folks. And he just said that we got to have the guts, Chase. We got to get the guts on fire. Absolutely. You know, it's funny you mention that because I've never

been one to get in fights or anything like that. I've got a bleeding disorder. I always avoided that sort of thing. But one time when I lived in East Nashville, kind of the bad part of town, my first house, started home. It was like midnight. And my door didn't close all the way on the front door of my house unless she deadbolted it because the house was 100 years old and it was winter so everything contracts. And somebody knocked on my door and the door flew open.

And as somebody who's not particularly physically tough by any means, fire in my belly. I charged at the guy and he was this giant black guy. He looked bigger than you, Alex, taller than me. I charged at him and he goes, I'm the guy who mows your lawn. I'm the guy who mows your lawn. He was just knocking on my door to ask me if I had any cash because he just needed help.

And I just saw a silhouette in the door. And it's true. We need to activate that quiet sleeping giant within. We all have it, regardless how tough we are, how smart we are, how talented we are smart. We are talented We are we all have some degree of it, and I think that's what it's gonna take in order to face this this giant in our door That's right. That's right. I know I don't

Think this world this that type of clip Is soho movies yeah that I have decided. this is a simulation except here except that Brendan is smarter Brendan is way smarter. I I don't know if I've ever heard anyone so Diametrically learned the wrong lesson from a thing yeah and thematically go so far off a track because Alex is like Brendan fighting's in the gut It's it's like a it's not a head thing. When you love a woman, it's in your gut.

I actually I'm not I'm not I'm not really a fighter coach, but Kirk, not really not really something that I do. I'm kind of aware of a lover guy. I'm kind of aware. I'll tell you an interesting, interesting little anecdote. But the anecdote's wrong because the anecdote is a story that Brendan is telling about Misassessing a threat that is so talking about his gut being actually wrong hundred percent wrong Yeah, and yet is somehow acting like see I did the right thing. Yeah, I felt really scared in that moment in my tummy

So I had a totally innocent person who I've 100% seen over and over and over again. It was my fault for not locking my door that I knew didn't close. Oh my God. All the other person did was knock on his door. Now granted, it's midnight. Maybe that's a little bit rude to be knocking on someone's door at midnight. But he didn't break down his door anything there was no actual threat Oh, I was being you could have been like to here who is it? It's ridiculous their energy is is I mean it's just a None of this is real none of this can be real

This has to be a simulation and you can If I'm such a huge fan of home movies when I'm like fucking 12, and then here we are and I'm listening to it in real life. But it wasn't until like six, seven years into doing this podcast that the dynamic appeared. I know. He didn't have this with other people. Did we make it happen?

Maybe. We're both fans of home movies. It's true. Did we speak? We've made more than a few references what have he watched the series was like oh my god chase is my bread did yeah there's something so awesome too about how Alex sounds like

he's getting a little emotional when he's talking about the fighting at the gut yeah cuz that's so that's so good that's so he's drunk yeah that's so mccrack rambling at this kid I here's what's crazy here's what's so good. That's so strong. Yeah. That's so rambling at this kid. I here's what's crazy. Here's what's so crazy about this. Somehow everything Alex Jones says makes like it's a lot more fine if I imagine him not on the radio just talking to some random child who's smart enough to know we don't need to deal with this. You know it's weird that's

a more comforting way for comforting context. it's weird that's a more comforting Comforting context so I think that's a lot of fun But it is still important to remember that this is on the same episode that Alex is Reopening wounds of Sandy Hook which is fucking atrocious, and he's a big big old piece of shit Yeah, further he has Marjorie Taylor green on and We're not gonna listen to any of, mostly because they had terrible phone difficulties throughout a lot of it. And it's not that interesting, but she probably should be thrilled to be associated with this.

Or vice versa. You know. Hard to say. I, I, yep. Yep. Anyway, hopefully this will have some sort of consequence for Alex. Let's do our best. America. There should be some sort of a civil penalty for this. I can't imagine this being okay in the courts.

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