Knowledge Fight - #99: November 1, 2017

Episode Date: November 2, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the Nov 1, 2017 episode of The Alex Jones Show. The subject matter goes all over the place, but the throughline (as always) is race-based deceitful propaganda, today ...largely focused at all Muslims, in response to the attack in Manhattan.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan and we are a couple dudes I like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. There's a special twist today though We are not drinking novelty beverages. No, no, no Palisade wine my friend palisade. I think I think it's in honor of area, California. Maybe the palisades. No, it's France Also, the palisades are in Florida. No, they're not. Isn't it an area of California? Isn't it? I don't know. I think it is I think you might be thinking of the Everglades. I associate them
Starting point is 00:00:40 I associate them with saved by the bell for some reason. I think they live in the palisades No, they constantly had to keep building palisades to keep the Huns out, right? That is the plot of saved by the bell if I remember correctly. That's correct. All the hijinks that uh, Zach Morris went into Genghis Khan, of course. Yeah, the Genghis Khan the dork on the show. Yeah So this is a podcast. Did I kill that? That's family matters. No, I'm just throwing them all in there, man If we're gonna make a pot pie of shitty references, we might as well go all the way. All right So this is a podcast where we talk about Alex Jones. Indeed twist is you know a lot about Alex Jones, my friend
Starting point is 00:01:17 You don't know anything about him. Oh, shit. Today. We'll be going over the november 1st Uh, 2017 three days away from Ragnarok. Absolutely Burning everybody down. Absolutely. But first I have a couple only one two days away from Thor Ragnarok I have a couple things I want to get into really quick before we start the show that have nothing to do with the show Of course, but we got to turn this into a little bit of like look people get tired of fucking Alex Jones So let's give him a little bit of something else. I know his ex-wife got tired of fucking Hey
Starting point is 00:01:48 Let me tell you about gang is caught. Oh boy. So, um, I got a couple people I want to put on blast. Yes Uh, the first of them is uh, will smith Will Smith fine. So let's get him the uh, the time somebody finally took him down before we start the show live here on twitch I like to uh, have a themed playlist that people can try and guess the theme of and today's was Songs with cities or apparently Counties regions In the title and I was going through and I was I realized like oh, Miami will smith That's one of them
Starting point is 00:02:24 That's why I went back and listened to it and I realized will smith's got a lot of albums And so I was like, why does he have a lot of albums? That's that's embarrassing like that's That didn't work out for him. Hey, man If a polymath has a polymath no matter how you slice it big willy style was a hit and then will any of them was his second album And I went I was like I was looking through like what are the fucking tracks on will any of them? This didn't work out and they get this. Well, there's will entry. There's will uh, decade That's a region of the will any So I was I was scrolling through it and I saw the uh, wild wild west the theme song from wild wild west was on there
Starting point is 00:03:01 Banger unqualified banger. And so I was like, I haven't heard that in a while I want to fucking listen to wild wild west, right and I'm going to play the beginning of it Why because it's important. I want you to listen to this Nobody has ever said that before this is absolutely nobody has ever said this is why the beginning of wild wild west is important It's not the same as the beginning in uh, the movie wild wild west. I'll tell you that for sure It is the same as in godzilla versus mothra, right? Absolutely. Okay. Uh, it was in the lawsuit So like listen to this and it'll become clear why I'm putting them on blast. Okay Oh, you took the you took the headphone jack out that could have been so smooth
Starting point is 00:03:40 Oh, god damn it. Dan your transitions are terrible. Uh, retroactively bad transitions I thought you were gonna vamp for a minute instead of throwing me under the bus. No, here we go So jaden Look, it's only a couple more records left on the album man. Like what you think I should put on now Really no, come on man people people heard that. I mean, I got some hot records. I got the rain. I got uh, what should I do next? All right, look, you know what? Look, I'm I'm just going I'm gonna pick my own. I'm gonna put something else on All right, all right, man fine He's blaming his son for putting wild wild west on his album even though it came out on the wild wild west soundtrack
Starting point is 00:04:22 I think he hates that song He's like I already put it out. Why why would I do it again? That's a desperate cash grab trying to fill up this album He's fucking puts it on his baby's son I don't like how that's a very alex jonesy and interaction as well At the same time as he was like, hey, I don't want to put this song on there. I've got too many hot tracks Right, right. I don't mean to brag. I got that one shitty track that I wrote it like kid Yeah, um, and then the uh, so he's so jaden has been ruining our lives ever since the beginning I can never get enough of that song though. So actually jaden might have been right
Starting point is 00:04:54 But be that as it may will smith still going on blast for blaming his kid for putting his uh song on the same album All right, another person. It's got to go on blast. Yes I don't know the jaden smith for putting wild wild west on that album I don't know the name of this person But this person's going on blast hard and it is the person who created the bus stop ads For the ninja turtles adventure in new york. Oh, yeah, they're weird as fuck, right? Have you seen these around the city? All right, so there's if those of you who haven't seen these there's a bunch of them You got to get back into stand-up. This is this is a good chunk
Starting point is 00:05:27 You can easily do 15 to 20 on this So there's one of them that's all four of the turtles in time square and they're all like doing a pose down Donatello's got like a uh, uh, you know like a statue of liberty hat on and what have you uh Fucking michael angelo has food in his hand. What is it? Oh, it's not pizza. Oh, it's not pizza. It's not pizza. It's a pretzel. What what the fuck are they doing? First of all, new york is known for its pizza Secondly the ninja turtles are known for pizza To the point where in the video games. It was what gave you life. It was it was the most important piece of the video game
Starting point is 00:06:05 fucking pretzel Get out of here How can everybody at that effort and it's not like it like I can understand if it was like he was holding a salad or something Because it's like eat healthy kids, but a pretzel is not more healthy than a lot of salt. Yeah, it's a lot of a lot of oil Yeah, uh, yeah total bullshit. I don't know how that ad gets through the entire ad agency without that some have been like Hold on now Hold on. We're about the age where we grew up with ninja turtles. I don't think they were into pretzels. Shouldn't shouldn't we know more? I think they went crazy for pizza
Starting point is 00:06:40 That was like the last line of the movies No, there is all of the movies end with some joke about pizza And most importantly a a line that I use still to this day from the original teenage mutant ninja turtles movie Wise man once said forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza Yeah, it was another one. It was like to air is human, but pizza is awesome But cowabunga divine splinter made a funny It's weird that movie was very strange because that is a teenage mutant ninja turtles movie, right, but it is actually a a
Starting point is 00:07:20 Very interesting look at how kids join gangs, right? It's a parent movie. Yeah. It's very fascinating. Yeah So anyway, that's a couple people are on blast. We'll come up with a sound effect for that at a later date But now let's get into Maybe uh, so let's get into alex jones First of all like to give a couple of policy wonks shout outs To new donors. We really appreciate Uh that uh, we got a new policy wonk in the fold. Uh, it was shout out to you kevin I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much Kevin. Welcome aboard. We appreciate it so very much. Also
Starting point is 00:07:58 Uh, someone else has joined the ranks of the globalists with a uh, an incredibly generous donation We appreciate very much a big shout out going out to you keegan I'm a policy wonk four stars Don't honk your mouth and tell it you're brilliant someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop Thank you very much. You're officially a globalist Some sodomite sent me a bucket of poop Fantastic never not gonna enjoy that never it's the it's the gift that keeps on giving from uh, reverend David Manning. So uh, we're gonna get in today's episode. Yes, november 1st
Starting point is 00:08:36 But first year is an out of context drop from this episode When you repeat a lie it makes you a liar. Yep. Thank you roger stone. Thanks for clarifying that we'll get to you in a minute roger there's a lot of roger stone explaining lying to us is Maybe one perhaps the best teacher. That's like a con man teaching the fbi how to con people Right, but I but a con man who's still actively engaging in confidence games Well, I mean that's every great con movie where the con man has to be playing the fbi as well
Starting point is 00:09:12 Like that's how that has to go down Kaiser soze shit. Absolutely, which that movie is tainted now Yeah, uh, but anyway, uh, let's get into it Today's episode features a lot of people giving up the game Uh, quite a bit right. Uh, there's some big news in the world of alex, which I think is gonna excite everybody And uh beyond that there I have uh to put media matters on blast They will be joining will smith and the ad company behind the ninja turtles in new york terrible company I appreciate what media matters is doing and bringing attention to stuff
Starting point is 00:09:46 But uh, they've made a critical error and we'll discuss it a little bit later in the episode But let's start off with uh, some big news in alex jones land This is great Al Gore, let me tell you behind the scenes is quarterbacking The attempted takedown of free speech in america and this broadcast And the next few weeks i'll be at liberty to tell you about it. I'm not at this point But we have soros al gore
Starting point is 00:10:13 You've seen pedesta Saying alex jones eat sh. You know what t cost to he never even tweets, but it's about me T and I don't say that like i'm bragging. I need everybody's prayers I need your financial support. Oh, okay yeah, so um One theme that you're going to see s h. You know what t shot does he not know What in the name of like a an ampersand or a star is you know, like isn't that how we usually uh, I thought you I didn't think cartoon eyes are are uh,
Starting point is 00:10:48 I honestly did effective. I didn't think he was going to come back for the t Yeah, I thought it was going to be s h. You know what? I mean that's plenty right there. Yeah, um, but this is uh Something that he's going to come back to over and over s h. You know what it Wait, shuit shit. Mm-hmm. Uh, so he's going to come back to this over and over and over again And it turns out that al gore may or may not be suing alex from all the context clues that I have I don't know if it's al gore, but someone is fucking suing alex. All right alex is scared He is shook because as we know he is a halfway crook And coward he's scared to death scared to look
Starting point is 00:11:27 Uh, he is he is in trouble. Yeah, something something big is happening behind the scenes And I think it might have something to do with this next clip And I think they can smash us all that'll do is invigorate us even more And as Winston Churchill said We shall go on to the end whatever the cost may be We shall defend our republic We shall never surrender He said we shall go on to the end whatever the price may be
Starting point is 00:11:54 We shall defend our island. His Churchill is getting better He'll go on to the end Drag on he'll go on to the end and as you can see we're winning but it is a war But frankly, I love it Ah, I can't wait to like and bring all this stuff out very soon, but They figured out we've got PIs and people on them they're getting really freaked out So I'm not telling you anything. They don't know already. We'll be back stick
Starting point is 00:12:24 So They figured out we're stalking them, right? I don't trust alex jones to hire a competent private investigator Uh, based on everything I know about everyone else. He's ever hired. I imagine he's uh harassing these people Right. I imagine there's a you know, just taking pictures in al gore's windows or something like that I think it's just oh and Troy are putting on a hat and glasses. Yeah, it might as well be like with uh, like with a Magnifying glass like sherlock holmes. It's absolute insanity. I think the all likelihood points to like he has been Uh harassing slash stalking certain people maybe one of the pedestals
Starting point is 00:13:01 Yeah, uh, that seems to be implied a little bit later in the episode that that was one of the people He put the p is on but one of the fun things about this episode is you'll notice He just keeps saying like I look I can't wait to talk about I can't talk about look al gore's suing me It's like he keeps talking about how he can't talk about how al gore's suing him I I want to be his lawyer so bad. His lawyer is fucking rich because of alex a lot of billable owl Oh, man a lot of billable owls a lot of billable owls all the guardians of gaoul Yeah, well, I mean naturally alex jones thinks hogwarts is real
Starting point is 00:13:38 So they would have the best lawyers that can cloud people's minds So jordan, you weren't here yesterday use the imperious curse. I was hanging out with cthulhu yesterday Yes, and you missed a little uh propaganda game that alex jones played Okay, he played it with a guest who goes by the name of zack and alex without investigating this guy at all pretends that he has high level intelligence information and I I don't I don't I don't know I don't think so was the phrase no whammy's involved. No, but uh, he did that would be a great propaganda Collar zack did agree with alex jones's guest who said that there were helicopters
Starting point is 00:14:13 Involved in the los vegas shooting where people were shooting at the crowd from helicopters. So, uh, This seems credible. All right real credible Helicopters people shooting from the crowd. No shooting at the crowd. Yeah, right, right? So, uh alex has this caller zack and the game that he played I apologize to everyone who uh listened to yesterday's episode But the game was he says that he knows all of the information about what happened But he can't talk about it Then the guest that he has shepherd ambilis and this caller say a bunch of stuff
Starting point is 00:14:46 After the call alex is like can you believe it? That's all the secret information I had He plays that game a lot. It's so fucking fun. It's complete nonsense. So funny. Yeah, and so he said yesterday I want to get this zack back as a guest. Right. All right. And here is the uh conclusion of that I into other agencies Promoted who I know is giving us good info on air and that it's mirrored information I've gotten from other sources inside the deep state And he was going to come on today, but he got called into a meeting yesterday. They were listening And uh, he's gotten in some trouble
Starting point is 00:15:20 And what did he say? He said there's clearly saudi arabian connections to vegas And that there's more imminent attacks coming So alex uses that to weave into the manhattan truck attack that happened, uh yesterday I'm sorry. We heard you were on info wars and we just can't have you work the fryer anymore We just can't do it. You're not representing mcdonald's very well You can make that call on your own time, but you're not on the block. You can't do it. You just can't you got orders piling up And look, I don't even want to fire you. I just want to reprimand you but this is your third one So can I be honest? This is a good fantasy, but more likely he got called into a meeting with his mom
Starting point is 00:15:59 You know like like because quite like there's no fucking way that there was like Like he got called into like the fbi director's office It could be that that his destiny raid was about to start could be like that's entirely possible I think destiny 2 came out people like that a lot I'm gonna guess that the guy was either like, I don't want to do this This this bit has gone far enough or or or something I just alex presents it as like he's called in for years I can tell you that I've been studying alex for the last 11 months
Starting point is 00:16:27 I've listened to the entirety of 2015 and a whole bunch episodes other than that and It's not yeah, he doesn't call in Um, that's like Robert david steele and harry cassidy. It's like hold on a second I just don't want to do anything hold on a second here. I'm looking at the chat room garbage dick Are you saying that this zack guy is a reddit celebrity? Is that is that the case? I think we might be getting some intel from the uh from the chat room Because I don't try and pretend this person's an intelligence screen named garbage dick
Starting point is 00:17:02 Oh great. Oh great. That's what I imagined star trek deep space nine in real life would be is just like Garbage dick. Are you there? Can you hear me garbage dick? Wait, wait, wait, wait garbage dick. The zack is not based stick man. Those are those are different Uh, those are different, uh dudes based stick man was also on I got you. Um, so that that maybe this zack cia faker FBI faker guy He might be a reddit celebrity. Who knows I keep thinking that base stick man is like slender man I keep getting the two mixed up. Oh, no
Starting point is 00:17:35 Is he the slender man is the reason that those two kids killed? I'm less scared of the slender man. I yeah slender man slender man I'm also less scared of the babadook. All right. There's all sorts of uh, well roger stone is the babadook actually Oh, man. Yeah, that is uh My dude over here like the babadook best tweet ever at spook person Uh, so in this next uh, we're gonna get into uh era here There's a chunk going on here, right and uh, what we end up with is uh, alex jones has found out about the truck attack In uh in Manhattan. That's not good. He pretends that uh, you almost want to keep some pizzas pieces of news away from him
Starting point is 00:18:18 And some pizzas away from him. I well trim it up alex Look if the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles can't have pizza god damn it alex neither can you alex you get a pretzel So, uh alex, uh, I mean, I don't know. I don't know how else to set this up. He just launches into an incredibly I mean quite a lot of phobia quite bigoted rant Big and this is some of the stuff that uh, that media matters was covering And uh, this will be part one of the discussion about that and then at the end of the episode I'll explain what they could have done better Look at this mentally retarded animal. Let's look. All right, not great on screen
Starting point is 00:18:52 A vicious psychotic inbred isis Look at that guy. This stuff was not in the media matters report Look at that demon. Oh, and he just culturally enriched And again, it's a cucking for the left they Leftist in their homes across the nation last night weren't just making apologies like jake tappers saying it's beautiful But a lot of them you can better believe were engaging in self-flagellation and i'm not joking when I say that They love this the fact that the left can bring in millions of these people I think you think they're self-flaggling different directions
Starting point is 00:19:35 That's hard to do from the inbreeding And but totally psychotic always Believe their god like any like a lot of other Seriously inbred mentally retarded people's very sad, but but this stuff inbred People or psychosis in high numbers So it's not just the religion folks. It's the inbreeding
Starting point is 00:19:57 Armies of inbred psycho killers that we gotta get rid of psycho inbred muslim hillbillies attacking muslim hillbillies Everybody knows there is the appellation where some people are inbred you don't mess with those people They'll kill you in two seconds because they're inbred folks. They're crazy He's seen imagine if there was a billion Appellations in the world and half of them were inbred and psychotic And they're just literally raining them down on us
Starting point is 00:20:30 Excuse me, I just got to tell you like it is. Okay, great. Thanks. Thanks for that if you wanted to do tell people like it is you should actually get into The reality of inbreeding especially when it's like second cousins and stuff like that and how that's really not that bad No, the only air we've talked about this in great detail in the past Which is something I don't feel comfortable saying well, I mean You know, we've talked about inbreeding very detailed in the past. Well, not just no, I know I know in the context of It doesn't necessarily create diseases It just gives you a higher likelihood if they're already there recessive gene traits are going to explode your higher
Starting point is 00:21:10 There's a higher chance of mutation. Right negative mutation, but it's not a It's not like a guaranteed no everybody is going to come out looking like the hills have eyes people I guess what a lot of times it just gives you a giant foot Sometimes it'll just give you elephantitis or some sort of physical ailment. It doesn't make you crazy Who doesn't want a giant foot right and super mario 3? You you just drove around in a giant bounce around Exactly your grade at kickball. Yeah, all of the kids want to hang out with you. Of course So anyway, here is more. This is more of what
Starting point is 00:21:44 We'll be back with more dan and jordan on the pleasures of inbreeding. Oh boy So this next clip gets into more of what media matters actually covered. Yeah But this guy in front of witnesses was chirping Chirping the a la ot bar. I'm an inbred piece of garbage Say he was chirping. I'm an inbred psychopath with delusions of grandeur Because that's what you get when your inbred is a lot of times just delusions of grandeur You think you're invincible you're you're a drooling idiot who wipes his butt with your hand But your god and linda sorcerer loves you and wants to put women under it
Starting point is 00:22:21 Because look at linda sorcerer looks like his brother Uh Same genetics all scrambled together All the slave trading all of it comes from these folks What and we're just supposed to be culturally rich and too bad you didn't fully take europe 1400 years ago Too bad there was a counter strike called the crusades. We're apologize. Please take us over Please inbreed us and pour acid on our faces and cut women's genitals off and murder the gays. It's liberal liberal
Starting point is 00:22:58 Great, don't you have more in common with them than Yeah, doesn't he have a lot more in common with them? Yeah It seems to he seems to have described first himself Then all the things that he wants to do or at least the people that he makes excuses for seem to really be into Yeah, like all of these organizations like and hey like the other thing I don't want to talk about any of that stuff because a lot of that we've debunked in the past and we've discussed What I want to talk about is very specifically like the big thing the headline The media matters head is he's talking about how linda sorcerer looks like the sibling of the attacker
Starting point is 00:23:34 That was that that was out of that. That was their head out of that They went with alan stone says linda sorcerer looks like a thing He called the guy a retarded animal and talked about inbreeding forever Yeah, that's that's what they did and they didn't dig in at all into other things that he says That are much more troubling the thing that I want to get to the the like really put my finger on here Is what he is saying The subtext of everything he's saying is all muslims are unipolar There are only one sort of muslim and this is a
Starting point is 00:24:08 perspective that we've encountered over and over again on alex jones' show Another thing I want to bring into focus is today while I was on the bus going to and from therapy I noticed a bunch mean ninja turtles. Well, I noticed that as well But I noticed on twitter a lot of people complaining about laura lumar Laura lumar got on twitter and she said Uh, can someone start an uber or lyft that doesn't use muslim drivers? I don't want to I don't want to give money to muslim immigrants Something along those lines and everyone got surprised and like guys
Starting point is 00:24:41 Yeah, um, we've we've been over this, you know, like everyone's getting hundreds of retweets for being like laura lumar sucks I'm like, uh, we could have told you that six months ago That's when she went on alex's show and said that there are no rata. Uh, there are no, uh, rational muslims There's no moderate muslims when she went on the show and said that everyone's in denial about the idea that we're at war with that religion We already fucking knew this. She's come out and said way worse everyone's acting like oh, what a surprise It's fucking garbage get get up to speed you assholes not you people listening You're great, but the rest of the world needs to get up to speed. This is a problem It's scary. You're just trying to ruin twitter for everybody. Look look at how excited they were to discover a new
Starting point is 00:25:22 Fucking race fader to hate. Isn't that wonderful? Also, all those retweets are signs of joy not rage or Also, apparently just exploding with happiness at itself Also, apparently there's a little bit of a twitter war going on between the lumar and laura southern with lauren southern, which is exciting Sure, why did why do these sentences exist now dan dan? Why are we doing this to ourselves because no one took care of alex jones five years ago? Or because his mom didn't take care of him didn't like keep him on 30 years ago. Yeah Anyway, I also have on pretty decent authority that that doesn't sound anything like alex's mom It's from someone who has met her
Starting point is 00:26:01 So here is this next clip alex gets into more anti muslim stuff But also weaves in hollywood a little bit in a fairly gross way The rap sheets 56 so far and suddenly it's pedophilia popping up He's talking about charges against weinstein or accusations that are made against weinstein And who does harvey weinstein like he wants to bring in muslims to cock your world Just like he likes to debase women and young girls He's gonna debase the whole country. He said yesterday He's given the world a gift with what he's just done. You're lucky. I've given you this gift
Starting point is 00:26:44 I'm harvey weinstein Now just like europe just took in 10 million military age men They're gonna take it. They're gonna slaughter you all they want. It's liberal. Oh, it's so liberal These are the insane maniacs that think they're god. I think he just jizzed Um, yeah, no, he can go fucking die. Yeah, that's no that's insane. No, no, no No, I accept none of that if you want to refuse. I mean, I don't honor I would like to strike that clip from the record and then his throat I don't know what to tell you about how fucking horrific that is
Starting point is 00:27:22 I don't know that weinstein is involved with bringing muslim terrorists into the country I don't care. Fuck. I hope weinstein dies. I don't fuck it. This is fucking look Look fuck weinstein and all this but also let's not forget that this is exactly what got alex sued by chobani Oh, that's true. I don't think I don't think weinstein's gonna find a uh, uh, uh A good jury for that lawsuit company could that's possible but be that as it may I I'm not I'm not saying that that's the person who's suing alex currently, but that's that's exactly he's he doesn't learn from his past mistakes I well, yeah, that's that's obvious But what what do you mean? He doesn't learn from his past mistakes. He learned perfectly from his past mistakes
Starting point is 00:28:04 There are no consequences. There are no consequences to his actions You just put out a video and then your listeners just apologize and then say I didn't do that and then you're fine And your listeners are just like, oh, of course. He did that. He just doesn't want to deal with the hassle Exactly, you know, he's innocent. He could fight it in court. He doesn't want to deal with it It'd be too long and absolutely. He's got a family There are no consequences if if our if our boy. Hamdi ualakaya had really fucking Tossed his balls over the coals We would have a very different alex joke someone will do that soon enough. Yeah, and I hope it's al gore
Starting point is 00:28:35 I hope it's us. Uh, we don't have standing. Uh, we could find something Yeah, uh, we could get a scheister lawyer. We could we could get uh, larry claiming Which uh, shout out to uh, listener julio sent me a link to uh, larry claiming is petitioning to be the uh, lawyer investigating Or trying hillary for her crimes. Perfect, which would be an amazing. I would hire you in an instant larry You are exactly the type of kangaroo court court lawyer. I want Told to not appear it's not allowed to appear in multiple people's courts and he's like the judge was drunk. Yeah That guy's the worst. Oh, um, so alex talked about earlier He said that jake tapper is saying that like terrorism is wonderful and all that right and it's because he said that
Starting point is 00:29:23 the clip that alex plays is him saying that uh, the driver said a laq bar and that, uh, Usually that is a uh, a common that is that is a usually a wonderful celebratory Positive context thing. Um, and so, uh, this is what alex has to say about that Jake tapper is paid to do what he does and He just said all aq bar is usually so beautiful. It's so beautiful. That's really sick And what he is you're doing is virtue signaling from seeing in That We got your back
Starting point is 00:30:04 And keep doing what you're doing keep it. I don't like the individual that went out and shot congressman's police and others That day will blitzer Had a guest on And that he was a hero We'll be right back stay ones So here here's the fun thing The guy who came on wolf blitzer's show didn't say that scolese was a hero He said that he was it was a friend of his and said that he was a normal guy
Starting point is 00:30:32 It just seems like he was burnt out on politics. Oh, it's fed up with the political state Yeah, and that's uh, I mean, that's what you hear from serial killers friends or neighbors They're like, you know, ted bundy's neighbor said he was a normal guy, right? What have you so that is that he's lying about what the guy said on wolf blitzer's show But he's exposed himself Because he's saying that cnn endorses terrorism much like when the steve's chalice shooting happened Wolf blitzer had a guest on and wolf blitzer didn't say anything to rebut him alex
Starting point is 00:31:04 You've had mars based people on your show and you didn't rebut them You've had david icke on multiple times and you didn't push back about lizard shit I They're not held to similar standards at all. No, but it's fun. All right. It's fun. All right I the thing I think of whenever I listen to that uh, or the past three clips in secession is alex's bigotry Is very real very like oh, no, I I I can see it back when I go back to 2012 episodes Like it's there what i'm saying is whenever we whenever you played the bbc clip and the guy
Starting point is 00:31:41 You know after the interview the guy is like it's all an act He was he immediately stopped that stuff's an act that stuff's an act But the bigotry in Engrained in that yes, it's so horrific. Oh and because it's not just it's not just that he you know You say he's turning muslims into unipolar, which is more to me. He's identifying a race. Yeah Um, it's not like the faith or anything like that. He's looking at a man's face and saying Almost frenology style You know like these are the parts of the face that make a bad person
Starting point is 00:32:15 Yeah, and it's all of the stuff that people from the middle east look like definitely He is a horrible bigoted racist. Yeah, and he can go fucking die And if your issue you know what you know what is he said something about what somebody else fucking looks like No, and they're close. They're close. Yeah, they're close to getting or expressing what the issue is so people could take it seriously At least this piece of it, but they're no to quote millen collin. No cigar. No But I like I like doing that. But I I can see that in your heart I agree. I agree with you wholeheartedly and I think that is why tom brocock called him an unalloyed racist And alex has taken great issue with that because a guy used a five dollar word and accurately represented him
Starting point is 00:32:58 Yeah, and alex if you want to say, uh, where's the evidence? We got lots of it But back to your point about the physical traits that he's going off of the same things are bad He's about to get into one that I take particular issue with We were just showing you an image of the famous hapsburg chin that again, um A lot of our islamic friends have it as well also the lazy eye It was another uh thing, but but in england they see lazy eyes as a sign of i mean i have to report
Starting point is 00:33:27 Royalty and nobility I mean you go to some highfalutin event with british aristocracy or You know folks in the upper cross and i've been to a few of them. I mean there there aren't hardly any eyeballs pointing the right direction Fuck off alex. What is that even fucking as a cross-eyed gentleman? Go fuck yourself out Where does alex even get his idea of history from the cross eye is seen as a mark of the aristocracy In england and alex has gone to aristocratic parties now. There is a real version of this I don't think that the cross eye being a sign of nobility in england is one of them But like like being overweight in a lot of populations like in hawaii that was
Starting point is 00:34:06 Oh, I mean the uh, there's a there's a functional reason for that the blood the blood disease that most of uh european nobility or aristocracy had for a long time because they were all inbred and assholes Like uh, what they all bleed. What's the one where you bleed really hemophilia hemophilia. Yeah, yeah, but but Even beyond that what i'm saying is like they're they're throughout the world especially in uh, uh resource Poor areas people who are overweight as are seen as higher class because they are able to Sustain a higher caloric intake. So there are things like that like you look at pictures of like old rich hawaiians They're fucking super huge right and that's why I don't know if that's why necessarily, but it's one reason that I've heard
Starting point is 00:34:50 Speculated that like generally the builds are bigger in hawaii because there was over time an isolated population And people selected towards that. So I mean there's stuff like that cross-eye. You cannot explain that way That I mean there's nothing like you'd have to just bring random cross-eyed people into your aristocratic circle Who doesn't do that? I do everybody wants to see a cross-eye from now and from you know, look I got a cross-eyed posse. There is the bearded lady. Sure. And then there's dan the cross-eyed bearded lady Those are the all right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry dad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry So in in his next clip alex jones cites himself Uh to assert that isis is super into pedophilia and then you'll see what he does from there
Starting point is 00:35:35 There it is report isis leader encourages pedophilia Enjoying young boys is in the absence of women Enjoy young boys. It's like you enjoy women Forcing them into harems. That's a fancy name for sex slavery Also, I mean he's just citing an infowars article. Yeah, I was gonna say when he said report what he means is We reported we wrote this. Yeah Oh, but the west is where slavery came from. We're the bad ones. We're the evil people We're the folks that have to be gotten rid of
Starting point is 00:36:13 It's amazing I want to plow into all of this That i'm gonna spend a few minutes here first just encouraging listeners to understand that When you buy t-shirts or water filtration systems or books or videos or other material For store that's not possible. Oh, it is Jesus you are funding the revolution. I mean, I cannot say it any clear That's true. You're pretty clear about it the revolution that has won or is winning Or the tide is turning towards it keeps turning. We might be under attack to every tide turn turn turn. Yes
Starting point is 00:36:55 Um, so yeah, but the thing that I wanted to bring out of that one is that you're gonna see a really interesting Kind of ad pivot that alex is doing on this show on this november 1st episode very pedophilia heavy ad pivots Well, no, you should have heard yesterday boy. I'll tell you what now That's missouri coming out The the kind of pivots that he's doing are these really slow intentional ones Like there is a there's a feeling of desperation in these pivots Whereas before i'm not just tossing this off where I need this money generally it would be like It's it's gonna be I mean, this is out of place. Hey, we're extending the sales
Starting point is 00:37:31 We're gonna get 50 off and this is like right guys, which leads me to believe we need you He is getting sued the revolution. I think he is getting sued based on the nature of these pivots Um based on context clues. Yeah, so in this next clip alex final Isn't it amazing how in your I know I know you were trying to start another clip But I mean you didn't give me a chance to respond I'm gonna refill my wine rape on day civil play Tribune, okay Um, no, it's it's really it's always kind of something that hits me
Starting point is 00:38:04 uh The idea of how We can just blow by the fact that he calls everybody a pedophile and equates Everything he doesn't like with fucking children. Oh, yeah, and we just we just go buy it because we don't have time It's so commonplace to us now like it's It's horrific like if you if you Like I genuinely believe that every republican politician who said that being gay is equivalent to being a pedophile Should be fucking murdered in the street
Starting point is 00:38:35 But this is everything this is not just if you're gay you're a pedophile It's if you believe in a progressive tax code you want to fuck or climate change Or or if you're if you believe in a god that's different from mine or if you're not white on yesterday's show He legitimately said that antifa the foundation of it all is fucking kids. Yeah, of course Not everybody does it But that's what it's about like fuck off, man That's why are you obsessed with fucking kids because it's the new it's the 2017 post social media post Um availability of people like I mean even we can just broadcast on the internet, right?
Starting point is 00:39:12 Alex jones is able to broadcast stuff without censorship without Uh networks that could get sued and stuff like that It's just the equivalent of highly ramped up accelerated satanic panic, right? It's the same stuff that we saw with like the mc martin school cases and shit Yeah back in the uh the 80s and 90s and we're just seeing it again, but it's much worse and it's much Like alex has no one to stop him right except hamdi yulakaya could have and someone soon will god damn it hamdi I think someone we were we were such big fans of you. We're still big fans of you, but come on So we talked about on our last episode that we were on together
Starting point is 00:39:47 Uh how alex is suspiciously not talking about george popadopoulos is guilty plea. Yes that he made And alex finally gets around to talking about it and guess what he's dismissive The whole thing is a complete setup. So that's about all he has to say about it. There we go Uh, but well the narrative out of the uh the trump Uh fuck faces is popadopoulos. He was just a low level coffee boy or something like that, right? Uh, that's that doesn't matter. Yeah if he's If he's not lot if he did the stuff He could just be a guy off the street. It doesn't matter how far up in the chain. He was
Starting point is 00:40:29 He committed crimes. He violated the law. You did too. He violated the logan act for sure Yeah, and uh beyond that he talked with campaign officials about doing it. Yeah, and then they lied about it Yeah, and we have I mean the proof is there. Yeah, the problem isn't like Ah his job wasn't very good, but it's also not a setup alex thinks it's a setup I don't give a shit about that. We don't have we don't have time to talk even care if it is a setup I hope it's a setup that at least be fun. I don't I don't because I think that's a little dirty But at the same time I don't give a shit about that. Okay, because alex doesn't talk about it much right, but what he gets into
Starting point is 00:41:04 Because it jogs his mind Is a piece of his biography Oh, we got another piece in the uh this one is fucked up. This might be a mic downer We know it's a setup. We know that's how the swamp operates the same thing happened to me when I was in When I was in eighth grade, I was not a drug user, but I smoked marijuana before And they were busting lots of kids for smoking marijuana And and this one kid in the field house kept saying just buy a joint from me in the morning Please buy the joint from me in the morning. Please and I said no
Starting point is 00:41:40 Well, the next day he follows me in a bathroom at first period and says here, please buy it and I went whoa And I took it through at the toilet They still called me to the office and said we know you just bought a marijuana cigarette And I said no, I threw it the toilet. Your guy did it. You set him up. They went are you like an organized criminal? You're saying no to us Who told you how to lie like this? And I went you people are crazy and they were really mad that I've been in a bunch of fights and stuff And thought I was a troubled kid or whatever because I'd fight back against
Starting point is 00:42:09 You know the gangs that were just going around beating up the white kids And that's what it was and I'm not against black people, but that's what was going on They were racist some of them a lot of my friends were black the point was is that they just wanted to teach me a lesson They were uh, you know white principles. Oh boy So this is a very interesting uh Interesting piece of alex jones is false Uh self-told uh biography. Okay, so here's what happened right uh one Do you know what's great about being a drug dealer?
Starting point is 00:42:39 You don't have to run people down to sell drugs. No, they kind of sell themselves. They're they're really easy to especially among you This yeah because it's tougher to find. Yeah. Yeah, you just like have drugs and people buy them from you It's very easy totally some people deliver when you get to be an adult. It's fantastic. Yeah, uh, so what happened was He was talking to this guy. He didn't have any money He said he would have money in the morning to buy a joint Probably buys a joint in the bathroom gets caught gets caught tosses it into the toilet then cover story Makes this whole thing up now, of course the teachers are or the principal is like What how did you learn to lie like this you fucking insane person right?
Starting point is 00:43:20 That was our first sign that alex jones is a psychopath. Well eighth grade only great psychopaths can lie like that eighth grade is 14 Yeah, that's about when you become a psychopath. He had uh, he had sex with like what was it a couple hundred girls before he was 16 A big one small one some as big as your head. Uh, so that's two years He's already sexually active at this point as a 14 year old He has a notorious reputation around school fighting all the time race-based fights. Yeah, I think you probably bought a joint Oh, he absolutely bought a joint. I remember my schools You know the kids who were into drugs usually were the ones who were fighting especially at that age All kinds of trouble making goes together kind of you know, there's a there's a there's an umbrella thing
Starting point is 00:44:05 Especially at least before like 16, right? I think if you're doing drugs at 16, you're great That's fine. Good on you. Yeah, but at 14. That's a little early And I would say if you're 16 like slow it down No, we school don't make it like a part of your routine Yeah, enjoy it turn it into a weekend thing that way you really enjoy it as opposed to just making another joy Like I got to buy milk. I got to buy weed like no no no no come on man Also a past version of the story alex jones is told involved him believing that like when he when he would have been about the same age
Starting point is 00:44:39 He had a conspiracy that the The schools or the police were actually selling drugs through the kids And so the fact that he doesn't bring up that stuff here This is a completely different Childhood getting jammed up for drugs story. Yeah, which again if even that other version of the story he tells It could very easily be oh you got caught with drugs Absolutely You're just making up reasons to pretend you weren't the bad guy and what this is everything
Starting point is 00:45:07 He does is making up reasons. I oh look. I'm not I'm not saying I don't like black people They started the fights like no you absolutely started the fight right look if somebody punches you after you call them the n word They started they did not start. They started it. They didn't start that fight. Um alex You started the fight that actually triggered something in my mind I want to say first though like all of it really brings things into focus when you see the narratives that he pushes in modern day As a 40-something year old man and you just relate them to how child brains process It makes so much sense. Yeah, like all of it starts to come into focus Uh, the other thing that I wanted to talk about was uh, they released all the names
Starting point is 00:45:48 Uh, or not all of them, but the first batch of twitter screen names Of the people who were uh, russian bots. Uh, and I was looking through the list and it's fucking crazy It's so clear what they were up to. Okay. There's so many, uh, screen names that are like at chicago new daily news Daily yeah tons of different city names with daily news right to try and mimic Right legitimate news sites and then there were like blm soldier There were a bunch of like yeah race based, uh, screen names. Yeah, they were clearly used to sew division Of course march for trump was one of them. Like they're there. It's very clear I would say most of the ones that are on the list
Starting point is 00:46:34 Are facsimiles of real people's names and then there's a bunch that aren't and the ones that aren't fall very easily into Oh, geez This is exactly what alex jones has been doing. Yep. There's trump positive ones. There's racial division ones Uh, it it's just so clear Well, and we already have the and that's only one batch. We already covered in uh, what's his face book? Also, there was one that's i underscore am underscore a underscore scatman That's fantastic. Someone got the scatman's handle. That's that's fine. I'm fine with that I don't like the idea of scatman being a russian. I'm I'm fine with that
Starting point is 00:47:14 In fact, if that was all the russian bots did is just a long list of different scatmans Perfect. One of them was all on board. One of them was at paris gay, but gay had like five a's All right, you guys is that is that ironic? It's clear that they have at paris gay Exactly. Yeah, a hundred percent. It's like you guys have a much better understanding of social media than I expected They're very good. These screen names come some of them are like That looks like something that someone would make as a joke. It's pretty sophisticated. Yeah, it's like we had Because we talked about that one fucker's book The the intelligence guy who wrote the book on how to take down america 40 years ago
Starting point is 00:47:54 Don't you remember that one? Whenever one of the russian Intelligence operatives wait, was it alexander dugan? Was it alexander dugan? alexander dugan had the one about creating racial division and shit like that The book that's taught at military schools. That's the one. Yeah. Yeah, and all of this stuff is It's very similar right in line with that plan and let's remind everyone alexander dugan has been a multiple time guest on alex jones A show and alex has been on his show in russia and alexander dugan's twitter handle At paris gay ham underscore a scatman So that just came to my mind because you said like you call someone the n-word and one of the uh, twitter handles had a funny, uh
Starting point is 00:48:36 Tweet or a twitter handle that involved the n-word and I don't know if you can say it just because it's a twitter handle I don't I don't know what's appropriate, but it was at dat funny or dat wise n It was like all right Someone's been sitting on that that's that's pretty that's wild. That's pretty wild. Yeah So anyway, speaking of people who are manipulative the idea that russian bots infiltrated black twitter is going to be very Very strange for me. I don't know if they did or not, but uh, you know the some of these names Make it well. They they do have some pretty uh pretty well reported stories about how Uh russian ads funded a lot of different black lives matter meetups and groups and anti
Starting point is 00:49:18 Yeah, exactly. They fall well and they had the they had the competing Facebook of events that wound up working so that two groups of people were just showing up to fight each other We're all both. Facebook is fucked up. I I sincerely think I mean I don't I'm not going to because I don't really care about social media And it doesn't really affect me all that much and lord knows would have even less listeners if we didn't weren't on there But I I sincerely think that the crisis of our times Beyond even a lot of this propaganda and getting trump out of office is we all have to walk away from social media It's like it's it's very attractive and there's a lot of fun things you can do with it and what have you
Starting point is 00:49:56 But I I think it is Something that is just ultimately not worth it Because the alternative is fix the education system and we're not doing that. Yeah, no, that's not happen Once once I read up on cambridge analytica. That was the moment where I was like Oh, maybe maybe all of this is what's going to kill us. Yeah. Yeah, it'll get us to kill each other for sure Yeah, um, so roger in kingsman the secret service. So alex jones has been right all along predictive program Yeah, uh, so roger stone comes on the show today. Yes and to beg for mercy. He's mad about twitter To get down on his knees like in uh
Starting point is 00:50:32 Willards crossing or what is it millers crossing? No, he comes on uh, and alex and the way he the two of them say it Please look into it never mind the they they're he's in town in austin to strategize Is what alex says right and we'll get to that in the next clip But first see how far away the border is exactly get real close to the fucking border So here's what roger stone has to say What do you make of this timing the nfl hollywood? It's all literally collapsing I don't think there's even forces behind the scenes doing it There's not
Starting point is 00:51:05 Well, people are pulling the plug on cable in general and that's really hurting nfl's ratings and then uh, Shane copeland and I were having a conversation about this I didn't even realize that uh, they made a new rule in the nfl that every touchdown has to be reviewed Yeah, I didn't realize that and that completely destroys the game. Oh, it's awful. Yeah, that's makes it almost unwatchable I would have no enjoyment. You can't celebrate with your team and what have you so the idea that the nfl is falling apart It's their own fault. They did this and it predates any uh, uh, not uh standing for the national anthem as they always would have Now you go to hollywood. It's like yeah, I mean this has been an issue That's been broiling under the surface and people have been talking about for a while
Starting point is 00:51:44 And it's coming forward because some people are brave enough to make it happen. Yeah, and that's not It's not a coincidence. But yeah, there are forces behind the scenes. I just explained them. Yeah, so anyway Alex thinks it's uh, god. It's chaotic systems. Yeah I just think america's waking up. They're angry. They're not asleep anymore and they're speaking out very interestingly that you know I came on the war room and I laid out a scenario So I want to I want to pause right there before he gets into the scenario because I think it's the There's a interesting thing that I've started to pick up on on info wars that I don't think we do a good enough job Pointing out and that is whenever two people are talking to each other
Starting point is 00:52:22 They're not having a conversation. No, it's one person says something and then the other person is like well Here's the point. I want to get in that's an interesting thing you said I'm not going to talk about it or engage with it at all. Right. It's it's uh, it's kind of like how you and I talk I'm kind of Oh by which the president Should demand that jeff sessions appoint a special counsel to look into uranium one This would have the net effect Of putting mr. Mueller, mr. Comey, mr. McCabe the associate director of the fbi
Starting point is 00:52:54 And uh rod rozenstein the de facto attorney general of the united states in the hot seat where they deserve to be right Immediately a piece on vanity fair yesterday headline. Why roger stone's plan won't work a piece on raw story The worst of the worst fake news left-wing seats. Why roger stone's plan is falling apart You just told us what you fear you fear this move by donald trump roger Come on, man. You just told us what you fear Being made fun of no Like they are so scared about this russian investigation. They're so scared of muler like
Starting point is 00:53:31 Yeah, doesn't he not does he not realize that the things he's saying are like they're they're transparent as shit Here is so easy to see through here is the most desperate slap-dash plan I can think together to stop a thing I am clearly not worried about it. I'm not worried about it at all No, no, no, no. Here is my 20 part plan and how we're gonna defeat it I need to go to austin to fucking get alex jones on board with this every single part of this plan Wildly impossible, but if they all fall into place probably illegal probably constitute a coup The idea the very idea so we've appointed an independent special counsel Now we can't get rid of them because people will get really pissed right what we will do though
Starting point is 00:54:12 Is get rid of them? No, no, no a more independent special counsel led by of course larry clayman Ah And the only reason I know this is gonna happen larry nick Larry nickels is blackmail of the gb g.o.p. That's right. Oh, we got to call him. Oh Because uh, no one's gone down yet Mueller has released some indictments and no one has gone down larry nickles hasn't shown up on alex jones' show There's been no blackmail right nothing. Oh also by the way, I don't know this is unconfirmed
Starting point is 00:54:45 But if you google larry nickles or if you I don't want to put his phone number out You're the first website that comes out. I don't want to put his phone number out there But it turns out if you google and you can find it. Yeah, it seems pretty easy. Yeah, but be that as it may if you google the phone number What comes up is a scam report There's a website that lists scams And there is someone who has listed a larry nickle scam report claiming that he doesn't have cancer And that he is defrauding people of money Yeah, there is uh, I don't know if it's true
Starting point is 00:55:16 He sounded pretty cancer heaven. I could do a cancer voice If it's the matter of people sending me tons of money That's possible. There's all I I know I know a bunch of things that I don't know No, I'm gonna let this one go. No, no, no, no, listen to this. Okay. Listen to this. Okay again This is uh from this scam report. Okay, this lady said that uh people have been getting uh scammed off And she called the number and talked to him He gave the name of the hospital that he was getting treatment at she called the hospital And there's no patient who goes there by the name of larry nickles
Starting point is 00:55:51 Now, I don't know I want to believe it. Can they even give her they couldn't give her that information. I think they could Can you you can pretend to be like a family members? I don't know Maybe so now somebody who's giving larry nickles money is also clever enough to scam a hospital into giving them private records That's a fair point. It's probably not real, but I wanted to know he's got kids But at the same time if you have if you have lung cancer, why are you smoking on video in an alex jones documentary? Because why the fuck wouldn't you smoke him if you got it exactly? I don't know. Anyway, I just want to believe it fine
Starting point is 00:56:23 Hmm. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to pop a bubble of your I say her ump your conspiracy theory I don't know. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's a scam report And like larry nickles, you know, that's what we should have called our fucking show Maybe, uh, but the other thing is that like it fits larry nickles character profile That's the only reason that I I was like, uh, maybe it does fit his character profile But also did you remember how I started this? I said it's maybe not real. Yeah, I know But you you said it like it's maybe not real, but I want to believe in it somewhere Yeah, I know. Well, let's call him and talk to him. Let's ask him. Ooh, that'd be a good question
Starting point is 00:56:59 Um, so in this next clip, uh, alex does not want to talk about the al gore lawsuit I'm not ready to tell folks about it yet, but you're here for us to meet strategize You're being sued uh by the law firm of obama. Yeah, he admits he put him up to it I have al gore. I'm not ready to get to al gore is directly Uh, I don't want to say it yet. I'm actually proud. I mean Wait till I tell you about this. I just learned about last night. I mean, can you believe that al gore, man? He's got a lot of nerve Uh, and what's the allegation?
Starting point is 00:57:33 I'll tell you about it later. I'm not sure the lawyers don't want us to go public with it yet I've been up against al gore before The empire That is a commercial break commercial break stop commercial break that that also very clearly says to me That was buckly. Yeah, that was buckly turning it off. That was like you are actually getting sued alex This is not this is very serious And I don't think it's uh, I don't think that obama sacked his uh, fucking law firm against alex I don't think that or i'm sorry against roger stone. I don't think al gore is suing, uh
Starting point is 00:58:10 alex once he gets the details out We'll be able to parse through it and figure out what the reality of the situation is but obviously he probably slandered someone again Yeah, I mean this is now. I mean we've proven pretty easily that he slandered just about anybody who wants to sue him Yeah, I mean what was it seven months ago? We went over the uh, the um, dula kaya Chobani yogurt case. He was very guilty there. Yep He got out of the pizza gate thing just in time Although he still he talks about pizza gate on this episode. Yeah, he seems to think that like Those videos he deleted from the internet don't exist anymore. Yeah, there's no there's no consequences, dad
Starting point is 00:58:45 Man, I know look we have all of his shows He has committed at least 15 crimes in just the time that we've talked about and one of them might be treason Yeah, one of them might Straight up be treason or at the very least conspiracy against the united states. Yeah Fucked up. So anyway, here's a commercial Means everything I do is about symbiosis symbiotic win-win non-zero sum game Everything I do is about a win-win. It's it's my it's it's far beyond superstition. I'm obsessed with it. Okay Uh, and so I'm not like somebody like Harvey Weinstein likes to torture women while he rapes them
Starting point is 00:59:20 This is a commercial. I mean I like my wife to have as good a time as I'm having that's my enjoyment I'm trying to get graphic here. The point is is that that's how trump is too. We want prosperity We want to win but to do that. You've got to energize us. We energize you the enemy knows where the resistance is coming from They know where the winning globally info wars. Is this the reboot of americana? I didn't invent it I just brought it back. It's like you brought it back all over the world, baby info wars. We're leading the populist revolution You're saying that's not uh, a good sentence I don't know necessarily is that a sense on the last part the last cause Okay, I don't I don't know if it's any of that a sentence or just a random mix of dot dot dots
Starting point is 01:00:00 No, it's rambly as hell Yeah, but the idea that at least in alex jones' mind the way he perceives of his place in the world is that he's leading This populist charge all around the world. These are populist movements, baby Uh, you you got to reassess what you are the mouthpiece of because uh It might it might be on the wrong side Might might be furthermore might just be you can't Lead a nationalist movement globally Well, they make the argument that it's like no it is
Starting point is 01:00:32 Everyone wants to have their own nations and global is globalism is out nationalism is super sexy So we're a coalition of all these nations that just want our own nationalism Right, I understand why that's maddening, but the way they What do you what do you think this gonna happen if they okay? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no We let's just think about it. Let's just make it through. I know what you're gonna. Okay. Go ahead. Fine. Now you go Oh you no, no, no, I know what you're gonna say fine say it You're going to say that okay, so you guys have a bunch of globally There's a bunch of countries that are super nationalistic and out for their own interests of inevitably they're going to end up fighting each other
Starting point is 01:01:11 Because they are nationalistic. Oh That that's a logical conclusion that most people come to yeah But the the reality is that that's probably not what they envision it's going to be uh like a conglomerate or connection of these Nationalistic states that exploit and take resources from and more or less enslave all of these third world countries and probably all the brown places Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say that dad. Okay. Fuck you. I thought you were gonna go to Jesus Christ I thought you were gonna go the dumb version. Wow. I thought you were gonna go the dumb You really really fucking went to town on me there. Well because we that was cruel
Starting point is 01:01:47 Well, we've gone down the dumb route before I know but I was talking What I was saying is what they clearly don't get is that if they are Jordan, I know I know if they are Now, you know how fucking I feel all right. I'm sorry. All right We just had our we just had a public on-air fight. I'm sorry dad. Really a fight. We love each other. Um That was my impression of alex Uh, no, I mean it's it's so stupid to imagine that okay You're leading there's a centralized group of leaders, right leading a nationalist movement
Starting point is 01:02:24 That's resurging and what is going to happen if they do win Those leaders are already leading together. They're going to cooperate. Yeah, you're just creating a different united nation It's going to be a league of uh, uh, nationalist nations or something like that or maybe an axis of power Yeah, exactly Yep, that is going to be uh, what happens. Anyway, uh, here's alex jones getting super grandiose uh in his fears about antifa You're saying i've been predicting this for six months The sjw is the antifa the communist groups have been saying we're going to launch our revolution november 4th
Starting point is 01:03:03 And many of them say we're gonna kill cops. We're gonna kill talk show host, right? Those are their two priorities Cops and talk show hosts. Well, we got to solve the real problem Right. Actually, I would argue that's prioritizing But alex is so fucking grandiose on your list one or two I'm putting alex up top. Okay, but not for killing again We have to be super clear about that lest we be taken out of context. Yeah, what we mean is politically Right politically take him out. Yeah, we just want the second amendment people to Politically take him out right. I don't take care of that. I don't even I even take care of that problem
Starting point is 01:03:41 I am even uncomfortable with that lest we be taken out of context. You know, i'm protected Anyway, roger stone. He's not just there. Just uh, have a strategize strategy session about their various fake lawsuits or real war He also has some gossip that he wants to report as news. All right And alex says one of the stupidest things we've ever heard at the end of this clip Well last night I was with a very high level republican lobbyist with very very close ties to the bush family and to End to jeb bush specifically. He had just had lunch with jeb and jeb told him confidently Trump will be gone by december Trump will be gone by december. What does that tell you? Oh my god?
Starting point is 01:04:24 We should have started the whole show with that in fact take that clip right there. No start over Start over and we're gonna put that right in front of this interview. This is so incredible roger folks never bluffs. He's got the intel right roger stone Never bluffs. I was hit with a polonium dart. If there's anything you know about classic bullshitter roger stone It's his he doesn't bluff never bluffs and even if he did bluff He wouldn't be bluffing about this. He'd be bluffing politically and even if he was bluffing about this He would bluff you about it. Yeah, absolutely. It's a double bluff. Yeah What a fucking idiot
Starting point is 01:04:59 This is what happens when you end up like working and being partners with a manipulator Like you don't do it for that reason You think that like you can team up with them You think like i'm using you as much as you're using me right and you think turns out you're an idiot Right over time the person who is more powerful in manipulation is going to be able to Uh, just run the roost basically and that's what roger stone is doing with info wars now more or less I mean alex he can get out. Is that why you just shut me down earlier because you uh, you are you you're manipulative Are you asserting dominance? Is that what you look you never bluff?
Starting point is 01:05:35 I Look this is what happens when me and my cat get a better relationship We become a power you and I fucking get a worse one. I get it. Well, it's like me and her are nationalistic I'm gonna have to lead a populist uprising against you. So this this next clip Uh, I'm going to call this. I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you ahead of time I usually like you to be blindsided by the pivots to ads right But I need to tell you ahead of time so you can track how he does it because this is clunky as shit And this uh, to me indicates massive desperation
Starting point is 01:06:11 This to me indicates like a severe situation that alex is facing. This is not just I want another boat. This is definitely like i'm in trouble Because you know the new york times says right here that truck get it. Do you know that it's like, uh, Christine the steven king movie or maximum overdrive, you know where the cars come alive and kill you right here Autobots transform and murder mile long manhattan truck attack kills eight. I knew it was megatron The truck had no driver evidently extraordinary extraordinary. Did he not yell aliyak bar just before the attacks The I've seen that in several media reports. Why won't they call the truth the truth? Why won't they point out that this is islamic terrorism at its worst and again listeners know this
Starting point is 01:06:55 I only generally plug once an hour over the years because that could fund us and we grew Very symbiotically organically to the level we needed now's the main attack now's the war bonds So we're gonna listen to the rest of this uh ad that he does because it's fucked up But at the same time do you see that they were like riffing on uh, the car didn't have a driver And then apropos of nothing he just goes into This like everyone knows I only plug once an hour right which isn't true at all But here we listen to the rest of this bullshit You spend money with globalists. It's treading with the enemy you buy products at info or store.com
Starting point is 01:07:30 It is an act of total resistance to the globalist and soros and for his millions Millions can counter that but we need millions because I sell high quality products at such low prices That I argue with some of my crew. They're in marketing. I think super low prices are the way to go The people just buy more we listen to the people who are in marketing We make more I I'm right kind of but sometimes not because then sometimes things are best sellers sometimes they're not I need folks to go to info war store.com and get one of you know 60 70 t-shirts to spread the word meat like minded folks I need you to sign a ferato ship to get great products like dna force and great probiotics like biome defense and
Starting point is 01:08:05 Rain force plus and a bunch of specials that end today info war store.com or triple a 253 3 139 One of my biggest stressors is trying to raise money to hire more crew to battle harder And fending off enemy attacks, but if you flood us with cash Uh, it absolutely takes weight off us to spend time in information warfare So i'm gonna say it now you want us to fight energizes flood me with greenbacks and I commit I'll go to the death, but I need the money. That's how I wage war flood us with money now quit Wow, that's brazen. Yeah flood us with money now I
Starting point is 01:08:45 Mean as a sales pitch it's blunt. It might be a little bit straightforward. Yeah But in this day and age people like a straight shooter right no dancing around it. This is the bernie sanders way of raising money. No Not really give me all your money I will fight my fake enemies to the death. I want to be one of the top one percent I mean, look the way this all shakes out. I think the most likely Scenario is a couple more indictments come down and trump resigns I think that's probably what's gonna happen because he's gonna realize if I don't the entire family business is fucked I probably pence could probably pardon me and my family, right?
Starting point is 01:09:26 You know that they work out some kind of back room deal and that's gonna happen The other I mean, we're gonna have a problem with Propaganda still info wars is still gonna be a problem all that stuff because they're not going to be like oh, he was guilty He stepped down. Yeah, their narrative will be a completely like he was forced by the globalists They'll go back to the John Kelly is poisoning him narrative possibly at that point. There'll be some sort of thing but like I don't know. I don't know how I got off on that but I mean there's just this It's fake bullshit, man. It's amazing to me. You know what's really amazing to me Roger stone describing it as islamic terrorism at its worst, right, which is like
Starting point is 01:10:07 Um, well one no and two if it were That's amazing. We just had white terrorism at its worst and holy shit It was about 50 times as many people got injured. Yeah, I mean if you want to go with no because they don't I guess they're better at murdering random people because they believe it was a scyop with helicopters Right, right. All right, but that's that's my that's the fun thing for me Right is obviously roger stone knows that it wasn't of course. So it's it's Like for real Maybe the only real white supremacy is that white people are
Starting point is 01:10:41 Complete sociopaths willing to murder everybody and that's how we got where we are today And certainly as we see from listening to this much info is willing to lie for each other. Yeah, exactly willing to lie Desperately for each other to protect white supremacy like consider Most serial killers are white True. All right, statistically also most people who hurt children. Is that a genetic trait? Is it possible that that's a mutation of the regular white gene? Which is just taking over the world leave cross-eyes out of this anyways I am actually advocating for white genocide is what i'm saying
Starting point is 01:11:15 You moved from a soft. Yes. A soft. Yes to a hard. Yes. Jesus. That's not good. I mean, there's nowhere else to escalate this podcast is over Decided there's only one solution to our problems and that's backwards ethnic cleansing. Jordan. I've appreciated our time together I'm gonna need a new co-host now This podcast is really just about me. I've reached. I've reached the apotheosis. It's about you radicalizing people towards white genocide That I think I think if you listen to if you showed enough people enough info words eventually we'd all be like It's not a bad idea. I would say if you listen to our podcast and the dollop it's game over for you There's no hope for white folk
Starting point is 01:11:59 But that's I mean just to be so we're super clear again just because i'm so self-conscious about Like alex listening to this and taking it out of context or something like that. We don't think white people are evil We just think the tradition has been really terrible right the history is really awful There's nothing intrinsically evil about white skin. You dumb fuck alex jones hypothetically listening to this show It's skin color. Yeah, how do you not get that power? Where are we idiot? Not you alex? I know, but like are we we're still doing this? Yeah, apparently skin color. Yeah, anyway, that's a big thing Anyway, let's get back to this. Oh boy. Uh, i'm gonna i'm gonna play this for you. This is alex jones's karaoke moment of the day Burning inside
Starting point is 01:12:43 With the fires of liberty Of the information yeah, it's alex jones Right Yeah, so he sings along with that a little bit. Yeah, he's awesome. He's great So we have one more clip of roger stone here and it's about him being banned from twitter Twitter needs to be regulated like a utility The phone company is a private company, but they can't deny you a telephone. This is a first amendment issue So there's a couple things first roger stone is advocating for regulation on a private business
Starting point is 01:13:23 Which is fun. Um, also, it's not like a phone at all because there are many uh platforms You can communicate with online or you can not you can choose not to it's not it's not as essential to your life as now An internet connection Yes Now isn't it strange that the guy that you want in there is deregulating an internet connection roger stone Have you ever heard of hypocrisy? Oh, yes, you have you're a fucking classic bullshitter right so the thing that's so that's so Inferior he should be saying this about internet as a whole right as opposed to saying it about a private business
Starting point is 01:14:00 But the internet didn't hurt him twitter heard it So he has to lash out at twitter. Yeah, absolutely No, that's it But that's what all of these these people like stone is smart enough to know that what he's saying is dumb Right, and it's only gonna hurt people other than him his audience is dumb right knows that too That's the issue all of these people just blindly go along with regulation is bad And then if when it finally when it finally touches them they're like Oh
Starting point is 01:14:29 Well, regulation is always bad, but not in this case in this case it's a free speech issue Yeah, exactly. Go to fuck all of you go to gab with your neo nazi friends. Yeah, no fucking you old glamour puss god damn it I like calling him a glamour puss. He is a glamour puss So earlier I said that I took some issues with media matters Uh, and one of the issues was what we talked about there at the beginning Uh, that they didn't really give the full context of the complaints complaints is very generous Right the things that alex was saying about this guy who attacked manhattan with a truck but
Starting point is 01:15:04 The thing that I think is irresponsible and derelict in their duty as media watch dogs Is that they didn't listen to the rest of the episode? Because the rest of the episode at the towards the end alex jones has an interview with a guy named matt bracken Who is a guy who is very much? In favor of militaristic act Action against leftists and what have you he's allegedly has a military background. I'm not entirely sure He probably does. I don't know I say allegedly because I you know, I don't I haven't done any looking into him. Yeah. Um, he always
Starting point is 01:15:41 Broadcasts on skype from his den Uh, it's pretty cool looking. I like his den all of his pictures are hung up. I'll tell you that much about matt bracken I'm out but oh, yeah, also. Yeah garbage dick throwing this out. That's I appreciate you reminding me He is a novelist and he's written a bunch of novels that purportedly Reveal truths about the world. Uh-huh, but it's all fiction. Are they very islamophobic? Yes, who would a guest garbage dick has labeled him as a right-wing wank fiction author and I think that's fair That's a solid solid fucking criticism
Starting point is 01:16:17 A lot of times he'll go on and pitch his books like he'll plug his books and what have you but uh The reason I bring up matt bracken is it'd be fun if he wrote a book called how to hide your books How to hide your books dot com Where to hide your books and where to never So matt bracken comes on den. Yes everywhere else. No never gun safe. No Put your guns there right job Media matters should be talking about matt bracken Because he is the more important issue and I know that it's not as sexy because most people don't know that who he is
Starting point is 01:16:57 Right, people know who alex jones is or lynda sarsour But even even in that case they could have done a better job talking about all the stuff that was around that clip And the what they talked about about lynda sarsour Being compared to and he he said that uh lynda sarsour looks like this guy's brother, which is another Like Freudian slip. I get it media matters. Uh, I don't think that was a Freudian slip I think he was legitimately trying to call her a man I was being more generous than I probably should have been but you're probably right. He's he was calling her a man I would agree. That's probably what he's doing media matters fine
Starting point is 01:17:30 Get your clicks based on your dumb headline But let us but then then let us write the article you fucking idiots or not don't don't call him fucking idiots Because there's a chance they might still come on board. They're never well. I advocate white genocide. They're not hiring us. We're in trouble You gotta look you can really monetize this thing. We're in trouble with the corporate left They're not going to be on board. They're not a big fan of mine. Unfortunately. It seems like also antifa and the uh The democratic socialists aren't on board with us either. So Oh, they're not maybe a couple maybe a couple folks, but also soros. He's not helping us out It's a real shame. Oh, I thought I was halfway thinking like wait
Starting point is 01:18:09 Did antifa like contact you or like hey tone down the white genocide? Like don't be so obvious. Hey. Hey. Hey. Um, so also november 4th. You know what to do. Stay indoors So, um, matt bracken is what uh, they should be focusing on because he says a lot of stuff that is much worse than alex I believe right uh, and uh, if if we were the people who people could rely on to cover up Alex Jones's stuff We'd have an article about him, you know, and maybe we will maybe that's something we'll incorporate in the future onto knowledge fight dot com but um, here here's uh, uh, alex welcoming matt bracken on the show and uh, he he's talking about uh,
Starting point is 01:18:49 Islam being bad and uh, here's what his first clip But the the actual translation of a la akbar is not god is great. That's a big mistake It's when they say a la who and they put the u on the end of a la that means greater So it means a la is greater than your god a la who akbar is our god They're saying our god our god dominates you. We are defeating you. We are greater than you. We have conquered you Can't think of anybody else. He says that No, and also that's not true. Um, much like he says raza la raza means the race. It means the people right he's Mistranslating and matt bracken is kind of right on some level, but he he's wrong in his interpretation
Starting point is 01:19:32 According to mainline islamic scholars a la who akbar does sometimes mean god is greater But the understanding generally is that god is greater than your problems Or god god is greater than the things that are your your issues and and greater than you Yeah to put you in your place in terms of the hierarchy of uh god and man Yeah, and man it's meant as like the footsteps in the sand bullshit or even god will never give you more than you can handle Right god god is omnipotent That that's sort of there's that connotation to it The other thing is the other translation of a la who akbar which if god is omnipotent
Starting point is 01:20:11 He is by definition greater than your god That's true unless your god is omnipotent you gotta unpack in which case neither god is omnipotent Or one of them is and the other one isn't and but then both of them that half would would have to be real And then we really get the good fight And could one of the gods become big enough that the other couldn't lift him Could one of the gods become a big enough mountain that the other could lift him crazy Also, uh, the other translation very common translation of a la who akbar is god is greatest
Starting point is 01:20:41 Right and that is not god is the greatest god because All these religions are monotheistic Islam is an awesome girl. He ran from heaven above with wisdom power and love And now we're darlings of the christian right? That's all it took give us money focus on the family Well, we harmonized pretty nice Look, this is what happens when you're raised in the fucking church. Let's have communion. There we go. All right Oh
Starting point is 01:21:17 That didn't go over well with the chat room. This blood do I drink of your flesh? Um, also garbage dick dropped in some of uh, matt bracken's book titles Uh, here we have donkey dicks three enemies foreign and domestic domestic enemies the reconquista foreign enemies and traders I thought this was all one title and i don't know those are three titles unwieldy. Yeah, so that's what he's got Also, he is a mess here is his next clip And you know as matt as I as I am at this terrace His name is literally a sword of Allah You know that nobody of our extreme vetting picked up on the fact that his parents named this boy
Starting point is 01:22:01 Sword of Allah and he won the is the he won the isis lottery to come to america And bring 28 more I just heard today bring 28 of his closest inbred family here Which i'm sure they're all in welfare You're plotting more jihad attacks. We pay for them everything and then they hate us Because we're creative and we're not inbred yikes um So the guy says the least creative most inbred tax and I know yeah So the guy who did do the truck attack, uh, his name is very similar to what would be
Starting point is 01:22:35 Literated as the sword of Allah, but that doesn't mean anything. You know what aerial means the name aerial Lion of god Lions are violent animals. Oh, okay The name anyone aerial that means that uh, you know, they they fucking are our vicious killers in the name of god Or a mermaid, you know what brandon means? Uh mermaid sword and Celtic. Okay, I mean you can just go about terry. I don't know I don't know terry. I didn't prepare every day I was about to start shooting names. There's another I can't remember what it is, but there is a very common
Starting point is 01:23:10 Angelo name that does mean sword of god. Like it is a common name I don't remember what it is. I thought it was david, but that's gift of god No names that are names that are from any kind of monotheistic tradition. Yeah, are gonna wind up being murder filled Yeah, there there's a lot of violence within names You know what daisy means what's that cock blocker. Oh boy. It's crazy little flower cock block. That was jesus's nickname Um, so the other thing, I mean, you know, my bracken's getting more into the inbreeding stuff Yeah, and I guess I mean this guy had been here since 2010 Uh, he so it is entirely possible that he won the isis lottery in 2010
Starting point is 01:23:51 We're gonna get back to that when isis was around we're gonna get back to that in 2010 when they were having lotteries We're gonna get back to that. Okay, um, but he came in 2010 and there's a prohibition against uh, any Welfare being given to folk within five years of becoming a the citizen Yeah, and so it is seven years after it's possible that he you know, they were on assistance don't care at that point It doesn't it also doesn't matter. Yeah exactly So bracken is just throwing around a lot of I get the I get the idea that the argument is My tax dollars are going to pay for people plotting to take down america. Yeah. Yeah, but that's a dumb argument It's dumb and what's behind it really is just I hate these people. Yeah, it's just pure racism. Yeah
Starting point is 01:24:32 It's the welfare queen It's the modern welfare queen as all it is is totally I hate black people So I'm gonna go listen to the dollop. Yeah great episode. We were there. Yeah, we were Yeah, they recorded it live in chicago. Uh, but also the uh, the uh Bracken no, uh, I was what I was trying to well, I did that little scat there. Yes when I was trying to come You're a russian bot. Uh, maybe What I was trying to come out with was uh, the the idea that Matt bracken is reinforcing also this idea that there is only one sort of muslim again
Starting point is 01:25:07 It is yeah, and it's predeterminative. Yeah So here's the last clip of him and it's not good Tommy robinson the brit has a great book, you know, uh On the on the karan why uh muslims kill for it for uh, the karan You can't reform islam You know, it is the ten commandments are all kill kill kill Yeah, you there's no way to take it out. And so he thinks he's doing something good And then jack dapper goes it is so beautiful. That's all a direct code to them saying just like we supported the arab spring
Starting point is 01:25:41 But cnn we support you brother. Good job. Just make sure it's a church next time yikes. That's uh, that's pretty dog whistly I mean, it's beyond but um, what's fascinating is What happens dan if you break one of the ten commandments you go to hell No, you shall be put to death. Oh really? Yeah, so if you'd wait, yeah, is that right? Yeah Also, I don't think there is as well as all the laws from deuteronomy I know that every late night show has some version of the top ten list because david letterman did it Right so successful, but I don't think that every religion has a ten commandments Just because top ten just because the bible was so successful with it doesn't mean that that's in every religion. There's no
Starting point is 01:26:24 You know what i'm saying like it's His understanding of shit is very is very whack and the idea that all the commandments are to kill In his law and we've gone over this over and over again the uh, the analyses that have been done about violence In uh, the bible and the cron show that the bible is uh, not a ton, but a little bit more violent Yeah, so I don't know. It's just it's just a dumb conversation Also, if all ten commandments are to kill I can't lounge in my chair. I completely disappear from camera
Starting point is 01:26:55 If all ten commandments were to kill you could have gotten the point off with four right like if you're like commandment number one Kill right commandment number two. Hey Kill kill commandment number three kill like you got it number. Number four. You don't need to go through Make sure you do your laundry five kill Yeah, I mean brevity is the soul of wit, but it is not the soul of religions Or killing right also. Tommy Robinson is a disastrous bigot Uh, he is a british version of alex jones to some degree every time you bring his name up I always think of tommy davidson. He sells
Starting point is 01:27:30 In england first thought in my mind. Is that the only reference I have for tommy davidson mad tv He's been in movies. No, it was on in living color, right? Oh, that's right. He was on I don't think he was on mad. No, he wasn't on mad, but he sold pizones. He did. Yeah, he was the pizza hut spokesman whenever pizones came out Crazy. Yeah, anyway, uh mad bracken's a disaster anyway Yesterday we went over uh, uh, we I've started to call myself. We apparently you and cthulhu me and the chat room We went over, um Uh, the big story
Starting point is 01:28:05 big big story All right So mike syrnovic was trying to give a speech In new york at columbia university Why because he likes to rile people up and he needs publicity stunts in order to keep himself relevant Otherwise columbia allowed him to do this. Yeah, I mean free speech, baby. You know, you can exploit it pretty far So mike columbia sucks mike syrnovic is giving a speech there and some antifa came to protest
Starting point is 01:28:33 And they had a sign that said no white supremacy. No pedo bashing. No mike syrnovic I wonder which thing they focused on. No, that would but that was one sign that that now when you hear me tell you that What what's your first thought about the sign like you see a picture of that? What do you think? Uh, plant Interesting you are a cuck You Okay, all right dumb libtard cuck did I just get dumb libtard cuck? Uh, alex talks about talked about it for about uh, a third of his show yesterday About how it's proof that the pedos are coming out of the uh, the woodwork
Starting point is 01:29:12 Of course, um, there was a reporter from gothamist who was on site and he took a bunch of pictures that show that It was just somebody came up in a mask and uh, unfurled the sign in front of protesters and told them to hold it And immediately when they saw what it was they tore it up and destroyed the sign Yeah, uh, and that it was clearly an alt right plant the guy in the mask disappeared. Yep, and uh They got a good picture though. I mean not a good picture, but they got a picture that's good enough All you need and you know what uh, what oh and shroyer said the other day Not the other day, but a couple weeks back optics become the story And that is exactly what's happened here. Yep. So today, uh, uh, oh and the other thing that was really fun
Starting point is 01:29:53 Is like the guy, uh, the gothamist reporter I Feel really bad that I can't remember his name. Um, but he was reporting that of course the sign got destroyed immediately And uh, that uh, antifa people who were there were like They didn't even print out our logo, right? The flag it was the wrong color in the logo So it was like there's no way that we like it's it's obviously someone who's not involved with us And it had a nambla sign on it like a nambla logo And uh, uh, we went over this yesterday, but just so you know, which is just overkill. Come on, dude
Starting point is 01:30:32 Well, but uh, vice did an investigation into nambla and found that they have no members Yeah, I was gonna say isn't it a joke? Yeah Well, it used to exist in it used to exist, but now it's just a punchline because of arrested development It's a spooky thing. It's just it's just something for uh, these folks to, uh, throw as a boogeyman, right? So it was a complete stunt. It was a complete nonsense publicity stunt Of course And I would not be surprised if Mike Cernovich was keenly aware of it or at least someone involved with him was well Maybe jack posobia. They've done that shit before though jack posobia with the rape malania sign and shit like that
Starting point is 01:31:05 Yeah, um, but uh, anyway Mike Cernovich comes on the show today On uh, november 1st and here is him talking about it Mike Cernovich, what is the point of them saying nothing's coming november 4th? But then full page ads saying we're gonna overthrow trump on november 4th There's a apparently a full page ad in the new york times, but it's not about hey We're gonna start a civil war on the fourth november 4th. It's about uh protests about rallies Yeah, that the which is uh, as far as I know part of the constitution part of those amendments
Starting point is 01:31:35 Never heard free assembly free free speech disagree with all that right. So I mean alex You're on shaky ground bring the 10 commandments with you wherever you go And that's what the constitution says in my book. Did you notice okay? So you you couldn't possibly have noticed at this point But this is exactly like that old the other roger stone clip where alex asks one question and Mike Cernovich just answers another right So he's like he's asking hey, why do they say nothing's gonna happen on the fourth and then this ad and then you'll see his answer What is going on here? They're so weird and unhinged and as we learned from
Starting point is 01:32:09 When antifa was carrying a pedophile sign and then they go Oh, well, we didn't even mean to carry it someone just handed it to us like wait So if somebody hands you a pedophile sign, you're just gonna carry around whatever anybody hands you They're not thinking so that indicates to me. Yes, that indicates to me that this was sort of like That's called being polite right Mike Cernovich. That's called being polite Well, but that's the sort of reaction you can expect out of people in order to like exploit them You know, you know, they're like, oh, can you hold this for me for a second or something like that? Like it's like You probably wouldn't do that in an airport
Starting point is 01:32:46 I was going to use the example is like someone asking you to hold their bags Could you hold this comically cartoonish bomb for me? It's got a giant fuse on it. It's a big circle Right, it's a cake. Don't worry about it. Yeah, don't worry about it. It's from the cake box. What's that fuse doing? Oh, that's just the that's just the fondant All right, I guess I'll hold this Well, let's say I mean someone gave you I don't even know how to make an analogy because my my brain keeps going to like A goblet covered in shit or something like that and you hold it for them weird analogy you hold it for them Not knowing they're like, haha. Look at you. You're holding a goblet full of shit. Yeah or something like that
Starting point is 01:33:21 You're like, I was just being polite. Yeah, I don't understand. Yeah, that's not a prank. No, it's not That's just you taking advantage of a human being being a human being and him knowing that people would respond that way Makes me kind of think that he might have been behind it Because yeah, because he has this line ready to go and it's possible that he just came up with it since then Yeah, that's possible. He's got time to workshop it Then this next I mean roger stone is around today This next clip makes me more suspicious that he might have been in on it And then they go well somebody gave it to him. Well, okay. Who who no proof at all
Starting point is 01:33:55 Like you said yesterday First of all, no proof at all. There were people on site who saw the entire thing And documented it with pictures There is proof that it wasn't the people who were holding the rally Who were marching with a pedophile sign, right? Hey now they're having to admit false flags could exist Right take laugh. Let me go back to this actually because I need alex's full sentence to be in here. This is uh, this is important Okay, who who no proof at all like you said yesterday. Now they're having to admit false flags could exist Right, which is a fantastic narrative win. So from my perspective, I don't care if it was some people
Starting point is 01:34:33 Maybe from 4chan or something who pranked him. I don't care because we went either way Whoops Kind of gave up the game there a little bit. Wow That is giving up the game pretty hard there. I don't care if I'm pushing a fake story because we win either way Yeah, so like hey, let's say one of these people that I'm really involved with uh in this in this 4chan Reddit conspiracy propaganda world. Well, so what let's say one of them did it now The left is gonna have to admit that false flags happen. Oh really like helicopters shooting at people in las vegas Oh wait, hold on someone did give someone a sign and someone took a picture of it. I guess 9 11 was fake
Starting point is 01:35:11 True. I guess sandy hook didn't happen. All right, so I'm Not lying to you. I am lying to you. But what if I'm not right? But even if I am right, what if I'm not and I am Who cares? He might as well just be making noises liberal That might as well just be the show is them having clips up where they're like Liberal and then the next one goes liberal like that's all you're fucking doing You're wasting my life a better show would be like just alex screaming at a monkey pissing in his own face That would fucking go viral my that would be a great that'd be a great episode
Starting point is 01:35:53 All right, look steve pacenna can't come on anymore. We got coco the gorilla coming into piss in her own face It's gonna be great Um, isn't coco dead. There's there's another coco's Okay, I I meant the coco you said coco the gorilla, which there's a lot of gorillas named coco It suggests you're talking about the sign language speaking gorilla. There's a lot of gorillas that speak sign language Also, disney's are coco coming out sometime. It was very important to the plot of the movie congo Sure, that was amy though. Yeah, it was amy. Yeah, there you go. You are ugly And that wasn't sign language, she had a voice box
Starting point is 01:36:32 Come on, let's move on. She spoke sign language So anyway, I told you to hold on to your thoughts about that lottery and now we're gonna and now I'm holding on to my butt Let's do this that was Ladies and gentlemen during the break I walked back into the break room to get a cup of coffee And chuckie schumer was on fox news live in the senate blaming trump for new york This is the guy This is the guy that got the bill passed with obama. He sponsored it. He rewrote it He's the chief sponsor of the diversity lottery
Starting point is 01:37:09 The cultural enrichment as the eu calls it. We didn't make up these sick jokes. No, but you're lying Yeah, let me read to you here In 1987 the u.s government under president ronald reagan decided to found an official immigration lottery Called the diversity visa lottery through this program. They wanted to make sure the diversity of nations In the united states of america would be preserved in the future because they regarded it as a characteristic feature of the american nation The immigration weird the immigration dv green card lottery still exists today and thousands enter it every year in order to receive a green card The permission to become a legal and permanent resident allowed to work in the united states ha
Starting point is 01:37:48 alex You don't know anything. Well, it was chuck schumer and obama at the time. You don't know anything Like why is he why would anyone listen to him? What is it? What is going on because he can say it so confidently? I decided that pretty confidently I know and I believe you if media matters would get our back and you would stop talking about white genocide All right, that's that's why we're fucked. Yeah, all right. I I okay Dan I make you this promise reagan reagan. I will only call for white genocide if you say reagan to me a lot Reagan got that diversity passed the diversity lottery. Yeah good in between because in the middle of it should be white genocide in between
Starting point is 01:38:31 Pagings Oh, that's my favorite piece of info wars news. We've ever covered ever so in this next clip alex talks about he brings up the Don jr. Outing that he did the outing. So it is trump's fault for new york. Yeah more or less Well, not directly. There's a lot of dynamics involved, but true But ultimately one of the like the reason let's just let's say just for safety's sake An accuracy. Yeah, his hands are not clean. Absolutely. That's what I would say terrorism only arises Whenever there are so many people who feel like there's nowhere else to go
Starting point is 01:39:08 When your justice system doesn't work when you're poor when you have no money when nobody there's no social safety net There's nothing to deal with. It's a corollary. It's a corollary of rioting as the voice of the unheard And when there's and when you've got nothing left to lose Yeah, you can't why wouldn't you be a suicide bomber? You can't be this fucking stupid not to understand that historical Uh dynamic. Oh, you sure can it's is long. Yeah, we found that out. Yeah So anyway, uh, you remember that alex jones outed donald trump jr. Is one of mike sernovich's sources Right the past right they talk about it on this episode soon to be in prison donald trump jr. They discuss it here They take your humanity is weakness like one time actually gave up one of your sources
Starting point is 01:39:49 You didn't get really mad at me. I said I had a brain fart. I apologize. Hey, that's okay But it was you didn't take it like a power over me But exactly that's how they are Yeah, I forgot that even happened But again, yeah, I never even brought it up ever again. He just realized that's life and I was making it up So, I mean who cares? Yeah Then why wouldn't you bring that up like in the real world? That would be huge. Well, also that could get someone killed that got reality winner fucking tossed in prison
Starting point is 01:40:18 Exactly. Yeah, like that sort of thing that behavior the outing of a source That alex did on air when he said he had a brain fart uh That's life and death which is one of the and why it's one of the most protected and most challenged situations in uh copyright or in uh first amendment speech Uh cases and beyond uh your source being killed possibly for giving the information that they're not supposed to give That's your credibility out the window. Why would any source ever talk to you again? And he knows he doesn't need them because he doesn't have sources. They're not real
Starting point is 01:40:55 They just go to 4chan and do like hey, what's on poll today? That's all they do They don't have sources alex pretends he does and then his caller is calling you believe that's exactly what my secret information was Yeah, that's all they do. This is such horse shit. The emperor has no clothes I don't care No, the kid cares and then at the end he's beheaded. Don't you remember that story? Oh, what did he uh violate one of the commandments? Yeah, exactly So here's a clip about charlotte's he violated commandment six, which is to kill. He did not All right, here's the uh, here's a clip about charlotte's bill bill being fake
Starting point is 01:41:28 We can have big marches. We can bring a lot of people out and it shows how weak they are. They they were so afraid of your google march Yeah, exactly. We were gonna do a march on google and then they used fed fed embeds with these alt right morons and charlotte's bill And the next thing you know, by the way are admitted obama Uh, occupy wall street. They three of them were formerly funded by the occupy wall street. Let's now refuse fascism I mean, it's totally obvious. They're all little pretty boy Strumpet leftists who think they're smart enough to false flag us Exactly That just I mean
Starting point is 01:42:03 Smart enough to false flag you right? Okay, this goes back to I false flagged you the guy who committed the terrorist act. Mm-hmm hard, right He was an alt writer. He was a white supremacist. There's uh, there's a great comment much like the reverend manning is uh, is an orio Uh, by his own words So was this uh, fucking Uh, whatever who cares what his fucking name is. Yeah, I'm gonna read this comment from goatware, uh in the chat room Uh, back when gamergate started there was some good analysis which happened to apply to sernovich back then too because sernovich was A gamergater, yeah about how a lot of their strategy involved false flags because they were convinced that their opponents were using them against them
Starting point is 01:42:45 Right, so that is the mentality that they live in and that's why he's fine with who cares what the truth is who cares and and that's why he's like Oh, yeah, of course like Mike sernovich and alex jones and all these people are so caught up in their whiteness that they can't possibly believe that anything a white person does that's Monstrous is real right so they create this whole narrative of false flaggery and stuff like that Which justifies it to them to use it against the liberals, right? And it's uh, it this is everything they think we're doing is what they're doing, but it's more complicated than that It's more complicated and more provable than that like it. That's what he says
Starting point is 01:43:23 Right. I don't ever want to use the exact rhetoric that he uses because it's cowardly. No, I know what i'm what i'm saying is it's It's a utter ironic horseshit. Mm-hmm. That's what is going on there more or less And it's a bummer because this is what we're this is this is what we're against and I don't mean liberals I don't mean antifa. This is what the world is against It's critical to our survival. I don't think that we we get sunshine and everybody gets a sandwich On like if they stop this But they them doing these things all the time and riling up millions of people to be Duped by them
Starting point is 01:44:00 I mean what it serves to do is make sure that no one gets a sandwich because we've got a baby sit these fucks all the time Yep, because that's what we're doing. Just no one's paying attention Right, like we are essentially babysitting and cleaning up the mess that the alex jones makes every day Yeah, it's just I mean we should have thousands more listeners. Well, and ultimately that again, how would that's what every fucking Relatively intelligent person has done with the rest of the shitty human race for our entire existence Right and a lot of people are doing a lot better job on other Global issues and I think a lot of people are doing a better job about trump And what have you because we don't focus too much on him except where it relates where alex comes in
Starting point is 01:44:38 But no one is doing a good job about alex very few people are doing a good job about propaganda Uh, except as it relates to russian stuff, right because that's the uh, which is the focus right now, of course Yeah, that's the good reason they stole an election. Right. That's the hot. That's that's the hot talk and what have you Yeah, and uh, I don't know I It's just uh, like please take care of that folks Absolutely, please take care of that but realize once it's over we still got this mess Yeah, and we're just getting a head start on cleaning it up one day one day when it all like when everyone starts to be like Oh, shit alex jones is leading a real militia
Starting point is 01:45:15 We'll be like we've been saying this for five years No one is listening Like jones like matt bracken is leading a gorilla anti muslim unit Uh, i'm telling you dan posthumously. We are gonna be thought of as gods. Oh, yeah, someone is probably I mean if we ever do get like actually successful We're gonna get the shit kicked out of us by proud boys. Oh, it's gonna be fantastic That's that's that's what we got to look forward to maybe being able to pay our rent and getting beat up by the alt knights great i'm not i'm not too concerned about the uh, the
Starting point is 01:45:51 I refuse to say that proud boys. I'm not too concerned to uh, to uh, I'm not too concerned about the nazis. Yeah, uh, but also. I mean they have a chicago unit Yeah, you're not too concerned about them But alex is really concerned about being sued and I know i've been making that point over and over a great transition Thank you. I'm back. Uh, I'm making that point over and over again because that is the story of this episode. Yeah Let me ask you about november 4th when they kick this thing off. I actually My lawyers don't want me to get into it, but I mean literally al gore His whole deal like telling me I better roll over by november 4th and all this other stuff. I mean
Starting point is 01:46:28 March the empire is on the run nervous fake laugh. Yeah, and again, they cut him off by ramping up that like sound drop Yeah, uh, that's I mean, it's legit something is going to come out in the in the next few days probably But also the idea that he's saying that al gore is told him to lay down by november 4th It's fucking bullshit. He's just trying to bolster his narrative. He's probably getting sued by I wouldn't even be too surprised if it was hamdi yulakaya again from a marketing standpoint though He is he is doing a great job from a marketing standpoint in that he is giving you a call to action with an end date If he just said they're coming for me that works like to to just kind of but that's that's exactly what he's been doing for a long time Right, right. It's not good marketing. It's not good marketing unless you know when you need the money specifically
Starting point is 01:47:17 Exactly, that might be the case. Well, that's I mean, it's he's he's pulling his own black friday. That's what he's doing Yeah, more or less we got we got deals that are going to expire november 4th Because with the world can add and if it was a month and a half ago, we would be very clear It's the end of the fiscal year. Exactly. But timing doesn't make make sense this time. It makes sense for a lawsuit I think it's a lawsuit. Yeah, I think there's an entire possibility that he has run afoul of their agreement the The whatever agreement they made in the ceasefire he and Al Gore signed after an inconvenient truth No, the the agreement that he made with Chobani after slandering them and them letting him off the hook
Starting point is 01:47:53 There's a chance because he has been going on. He's absolutely broken that agreement He's been going on air a bunch and saying they're you know, they're lucky They got out of that and haunting and stuff like that. I could see That but then also here's my here's one theory. I have I don't think it's this But it's entirely possible because Alex For the longest time has been saying, you know in terms of sandy hook We just had debates. We played both sides, right? We played devil's advocate
Starting point is 01:48:22 Even though he is still denying that it happened. Well, he hasn't been but a week ago He did. Yeah, he straight up said it's fake as a three dollar bill. Yeah I think there might be a chance that maybe some of the families are suing him or something like that I don't think they're still paying attention to him. I would be I know they still get death threats, but you are they still get death threats from his listeners Yeah, I have a hard time reading the news now because it's just like every day again A lot of it runs similar to what we talk about here. Well, yeah, that's problem number one uh
Starting point is 01:48:54 But I mean if you were one of the if you were one of the family members You definitely wouldn't be keeping an eye on alex jam I constantly see like people like jimmy door even making comments that are similar to alex I'm like, you're supposed to be you're supposed to be Progressive, bro. Right. Don't fall for the same bullshit. Like he fell for that. He was at least Putting his dick in the water with the seth rich shit And then he was He was spouting a bunch of nonsense. We should give him larry nickles's number. We should oh my god
Starting point is 01:49:24 Hey, we should give larry nickles his number The other day he tweeted something about jimmy jimmy. Let me tell you something. I don't actually have cancer jimmy jimmy I went when it all goes down when it all goes down Radio show hosts become dukes Why jimmy jimmy when it all goes down radio shack employees become dukes too. Yeah, maybe uh, Al Gore tried to sell him a joint at school. Maybe that's what happened I don't knew um, so anyway, I have one more clip here and this uh, this is very troubling this is incredibly troubling to me
Starting point is 01:50:01 Because we have been operating under an assumption that I think is a fair assumption to make I think it's a reasonable thing to believe in terms of Propaganda I think that we look at it as They are talking to their audience. Yeah, and I think we have been remiss And I think we've been looking at it wrong and as is their habit in this next clip Mike Cernovich really gives up the game about what they're actually doing But then when you and I ever criticized trump they go
Starting point is 01:50:32 Oh, you know jones and cernovich are betraying us like no, that's how shumer you have to to get anything with trump You have to negotiate and that's what shumer is doing And that's who trump actually listens to and does deals to so that that's interesting and shumer is doing that I found out From someone directly that that one video the night before the debate or two nights before I said Do you attack or it's over and you're a joke and he was on the fence whether he was going to attack or not And I'm told that video pushed him over the edge of me screaming at him. So is that the answer here cernovich? Yeah, you have to push back. I I did a video where I said There's all this violence against trump supporters. He won't call it out. Therefore trump is okay with antifa violence against trump supporters
Starting point is 01:51:16 A day or two later at that rally in arizona trump finally for the first time called out antifa So people go. Oh, you know cernovich jones. You guys are on and off the trump train No, let the professionals do our jobs. We know what we're doing We're reminding trump that hey, this is an ongoing negotiation. You're just not going to steamroll us. Let me out so The the thing that we should take away from that. I believe is that uh, the they aren't really interested I mean alex is because he's got to sell his products and right They're trying to run an influence campaign in the same way that steve bannon tries to run an influence campaign through or russia
Starting point is 01:51:53 Yeah, well, yeah Yeah, they're the aim and the their lobbyists as much as anybody else They only use public opinion as opposed to Shit tons of money the target of their uh, their propaganda is trump to a great extent right like fox and friends So fucked up. So fucked up. So fucked up It's so fucked up. I don't even know what there's nothing else to say How do you deal a morning news show filled with bigotry and lies is the direct line to the president or Cernovich threatening him or alex jones screaming in a video at him
Starting point is 01:52:27 When went on that went on the same show mike cernovich literally said i don't care if it's real or not We win either way right about a propaganda photo stunt that got done at one of his events That's not okay to me. That's not if it was on the left. It wouldn't be okay with me either. No, that's fucked up this is the destruction of the the Uh separation of journalism and power. This is the destruction of public discourse This is the destruction of everything and it's happening from both It's happening from both sides and I don't mean right and left I mean top and bottom like these guys rich people and then sort of exactly these guys are the bottom and they're destroying it
Starting point is 01:53:07 in their way, which is to Make facts obsolete and then the top is destroying it in their way of Making only the facts that they want known or only the way they want those facts presented screwing the poor exactly So in all of this Everybody else gets fucked. They're the ones who put both sides make a shit ton of money. Yep. It's a good game Yep, good game. It's a two-man con. Yep. That's what it is Well, it's a two-man con in the sense that they if you to look at the groups as One each being represented by a person. Yeah, it's fucked up
Starting point is 01:53:42 We're done, man I do you remember the ad that hillary clinton had whereas like who do you want answering the phone at four in the morning? I imagine that ad is very different like Do you want the president to get his news from fox and friends? And do you want him to still be up at four in the morning? Yeah, like that's a very simple ad to run now like the president gets his news From fox and friends. The president is scared of what alex jones thinks of him The president is shook by mike cernovich
Starting point is 01:54:14 Well, that's but that's just true of everybody. I'm not no, we're all shook that lisp does shake me nothing More scary makes me quiver in my boots than mike cernovich mike cernovich the influence that mike cernovich wields Whoo Goddamn Goddamn man. It's dark. You look you look a little drained Yeah, I mean just the running around today and right before the show. I was real stressed out I didn't even know if I was going to get all the clips and I feel like I didn't do a good enough job of researching a lot of stuff Now you were racing to the end. It was like a
Starting point is 01:54:45 Well, I also had like 28 clips or something like that. So it's like, uh, I don't know and you know I I just uh, there's there's elements of alex that are fun and there's elements that aren't and The rampant islamophobia isn't fun and especially when we have an instance of like I listen to his show I know what he said I see media matters who should be the ones helping with us with this and when I say us I don't mean us I mean the world right it is their charge and right wing watch it is their charge to Watch these people and be like, hey, this is what they're saying. Yeah, and having watched it. I know that they didn't
Starting point is 01:55:28 Or they could have done a much better job. Yeah Or at least a more thorough job or or the article that they even wrote about it They could have talked about like here's why this isn't true Here's why it's it's just a transcript of the clip and the clip and it's fine You can anger people you can outrage people But you can't help them And it's never going to pierce the people who do believe the propaganda if all you're doing is like Hey, look at this. Isn't this fucked up?
Starting point is 01:55:55 That is a good point But then again, it doesn't see it. How are you gonna get anyone to listen to two hour episodes of you and I right? It's complicated What was that pronunciation complicated? I don't know if you're not talking about avril avine. I'm not listening. It's complicated. No, I I Also, what are you? I also have a blister on the back of my foot From dancing here's it you're too you're you're too happy. No, I at matt rigs's wedding Terrible fitting shoes and since then I've had a blister on the back of my foot and because it's on the back of the foot
Starting point is 01:56:31 I can't fucking get rid of that. You got to get a band-aid man. I've been using a band-aid try some liquid uh liquid bandage Fucking destroying me. This is great radio by the way. I'm just trying. I'm just opening up Anyway, no, I I don't I I don't disagree with you in that They are they are part of the outrage machine and they're propagating that and in some ways They're utilizing the same tools that alex does Not exactly, but no no no in the way of what's the best way to get people to engage It's not make them feel better. It's not educate. It's not it's definitely not It's not solutions based. No, it's outrage based. Yeah, and so if you are still a business, you know
Starting point is 01:57:12 If you're not pbs if you're not a non-profit. Yeah, you still have to do that shit And so I get it which Is part of the problem right but if you want to make people outraged About what happened on alex jones' show. I don't think the way to do it necessarily is to play Uh the linda sarsour looks like uh this terrorist And that is the main thrust of your article I think it is much more infuriating to people and a much easier Intro into like well, this is very easily disprovable is the stuff with matt bracken
Starting point is 01:57:49 And especially the clip where he's saying that all the tenants of uh islam in the coroner kill kill kill kill kill Right that sort of stuff is much easier and would make people much angrier. I think you'd get more clips but What every every every editor has to Every content editor is going to be like Celebrity gossip boom toss it up there linda sarsour accounts as a celebrity in in that world Maybe in that world. What else what else do you got there? You have a random? A unabomber style author
Starting point is 01:58:24 Uh who is saying unabomber style authorship, right? So what are you gonna be like the unabomber is that racist though? No, I bet he was he probably was he sounds racist to himself though. Yeah Good on him. Yeah. No, and even then I think we can move past islamophobia Like that is that is too much of a subset now for alex jones where it has to be white male supremacy Right. He is not an islamophobe. No, that's just a white male supremacist. Yeah, that's a feature. It's not the program Exactly. That's just that's a that's a side effect. Yeah, it's white christian straight male supremacy It's all of that bundled into one. It's waspiness as as gospel. Yep, or I mean, it would be an even easier attack for um
Starting point is 01:59:08 You know media matters to make it might not outrage as many people but Posting something about Mike Cernovich days after the entire pedo sign has been debunked still pitching it and then admitting on air that Hey, I don't care if it's real or not. If it was a stunt. I don't give a shit. I wouldn't either way Right. Those sorts of things those those admissions are more damning to them. I think because Look, well, it was those types of admissions that got rid of nixon and that kind of shit of just like that's different I don't it's a different era. I don't care. Exactly. That's the that's the crazy thing now. You now subtext No longer exists. You can just make it all out there
Starting point is 01:59:47 I would argue that there's probably a good 60 of these ding dongs base that isn't going to leave them But there's probably 20 percent that you could get rid of from supporting them if you expose them to Do you understand that they are explaining on air that they're conning you? Do you understand that that is what's going on? Or if you played some of his ridiculous throws to to ads right and explain this is a technique This is a rhetorical technique. It is what it's how they train people at qvc That's how you sell things. Yeah, you try and create an emotional response in people and then lay the sales pitch out It's classic salesmanship. So if you did something like that, you could I think make some dents
Starting point is 02:00:32 In uh, their their population or their their fan bases Yeah, I would say I would say more than fucking lint to sarsura shit, which is just gonna pedal to the base Right, I would say at least two thirds are never going anywhere. Yeah I would say that you can get the other third split pretty well between Either not being actively engaged with it or being becoming purely like I don't believe them anymore and they're not going to come over to the team. No, that doesn't matter though That shouldn't happen. I don't exactly exactly that. No, I'm not saying that you need to care I don't think you are. I'm just expressing that I don't care. I'm not trying to grow the ranks of the libs
Starting point is 02:01:10 This is so fun. This is such a this is such a weird reversal here stupid pal Generally speaking. Why is it that uh, I'm the one being like Hey, Dan, your anger is out of control right now. I don't know Therapy is starting to work Getting in touch with this goddamn. You're getting you're becoming more assertive. Right. Yeah Hit the nail on the head there. That's exactly Guys, let me tell you about my therapy No, but like
Starting point is 02:01:37 Look, who cares? Dan knows a lot about therapy. Uh, in Tokyo So the uh, the thing is though, like I don't give a shit and you you know this I'm not saying you don't but like I don't give a shit about Swelling the ranks of antifa swelling the the ranks of the democrats or the left even I care about people not falling for this If you don't believe alex jones and know that he's a liar and recognize what he's doing and you still Believe in trickle down economics if you still believe in states rights Cool
Starting point is 02:02:10 We can have a conversation about that. Right. I disagree but that's fine See, I don't think you can do that though. I don't think it winds up happening Because if you can see through alex's tricks alex's tricks are just a more obvious version of everybody else's right But they're that you said it right there. Oh, that's true. They're more obvious Right, but if you if you cut your teeth like he's a he's a practice level, you know Like you're cutting your teeth on this is a very obvious form of bigotry and conmanship, right? You know and then you graduate to fox news and you're like, oh, they're doing the same thing But they're slicker about it
Starting point is 02:02:45 But I still think you can graduate through a bunch of levels and still have conservative ideas I don't think so Whatever conservatism is a con entirely. I think it is as it's applied and and uh Most of my life The people who have been conservative politicians seem to be reinforcing of that But I I'm not look. I don't know. I don't you're gonna fucking call me a centrist and I don't give a shit I'm not calling you as
Starting point is 02:03:12 Dan This is a safe space. It's not It's hostile I just don't care. I don't I don't care about the the game between parties I don't care about the idea that like hey I believe that the world works better in x y and z way and I believe it works better in a b and c way As long as you ditch the racist propaganda and you don't you aren't beholden to these ideas, right then society can function Because we can have a polite disagreement about stuff and some places can implement some plans
Starting point is 02:03:46 Some places can implement other and we can see what works. That's the idea of government I get I get state governments and stuff like that There is something to that now if you want to dismantle the entire federal government in the name of states rights You're stupid That right we can't do but the idea of like the idea that people pitch in terms of states rights About like let's see how things work in colorado and then maybe if it works there We can expand it like that is kind of what happened with marijuana legalization Yeah, they had the right to do that and we learned it fucking worked super well
Starting point is 02:04:22 And so other states adopt it. Yeah, that is the kind of thing that I understand Where that philosophy comes from and I don't hate it now if you want to say that all conservative Ideology is stupid and it's a con I disagree with you because I think that's as bad as alex calling all liberals stupid But I don't I don't I don't think that you're dumb and I don't think that like I don't think you have uh, haven't thought out your opinions Yeah, and I certainly think that most of the people that we recognize as conservative politicians aren't necessarily Just that right but I the the point I want to get to is is
Starting point is 02:05:04 There are instances of political disagreements that are acceptable that I that I agree with that's more that's more That's more my thesis. No, I get you and because we only have conservative and liberal as our sort of two polar opposites Yeah, that we get to talk about. Yeah, that's the reason I use that as the the feeling and I get that I I think that was just a misunderstanding of terms because to me modern conservatism Is intrinsically tied up with bigotry because that's the only way that you can sell Fucking yourself over right like that's that like if you look at what kansas what happened in kansas the way that sam brownback Uh implemented all of the conservative tenants destroyed kansas's entire
Starting point is 02:05:50 Economy and infrastructure and everything right and if we didn't have all the other stuff that's piggybacking and and just in a In a giant backpack around it then he never would have gotten elected right and we would have seen Oh that stuff didn't work right and we would have been able to discount those Exactly those ideas and be like sorry We already know that shit didn't work because it's been applied So many times in american history in the past and it's never worked right ever right look I I and and I respect your I I totally get what you're saying uh coming from the idea of
Starting point is 02:06:26 polite disagreement is a valuable thing I think the problem that we're having or at least in this discussion is a lot of the polite disagreements that we're talking about Happened hundreds of years ago and are settled We're just still having those disagreements. I I I somewhat in the future in the future when we're talking about because because I don't agree with Uh a lot of different ways and I I absolutely think that the one of one of the there is a certain progressive uh that can go uh, you know, we're not polyana. There is a rational approach to take But at the same time trickle down economics is magical. It doesn't exist So that conservative polite disagreement is gone
Starting point is 02:07:11 There is no further discussion of tax breaks for the rich leading to economic growth. We're done there So that's not a polite disagreement. Well, that's a that's a disagreement because you're making it reality You're making it a little rude Okay, in this hypothetical conversation that you're having with a conservative I I'm not having a hypothetical conversation. That's the problem there. You're not I'm not right because that conversation is done What that's like that's like arguing about whether or not climate change is real at this point. Well, that wouldn't be on my list Right. Well, that's not a polite disagreement You can't have that as a polite disagreement in the same way if there's an established fact
Starting point is 02:07:51 Dude, you can't disagree about it. Dude, dude dude What you're not I believe that what you're not taking into account Okay, is that let's take the climate change as an example of what you're talking about. Okay If you take away a lot of the conspiracy propaganda beliefs about climate change Okay, there would be much less disagreement about it If people were relying on science about it if they were relying on empirical evidence There wouldn't be nearly as many people who are saying there are two sides
Starting point is 02:08:27 because a lot of the people who whether they Really consciously understand it or not a lot of the people who are against it believe that there are the that The the un is trying to conspire and they're faking all this Well, the the one that I get from my family all the time is that the scientists look the scientists Have to say this in order to get grant money. Right. That's always the it's the monetary Disregarding the fact that they maybe get hundreds of thousands of dollars while the people who are causing climate change get billions but But I I If you take away all of the bullshit right a lot of the conversations that you're bringing up and I I'm gonna imagine
Starting point is 02:09:06 Trickle down economics might be one of them that also goes away Maybe it was a bad thing for me to use it as an example. No, I I respect that I don't even know where this fucking started I'm looking at the chat room and I think we lost a lot of people Garbage dick brought up a libertarian Philosophies that are burgeoning right now and I want to be totally clear. I got no time for libertarians Yeah, that that shit's done no matter how much I want to be inclusive of uh, folks. I got zero time for libertarians
Starting point is 02:09:34 No, uh, so anyway, uh, you can go to our website I don't want to that was a great pivot for us. That was an alex jonesy and pivots. I don't even want to have any more Conversation Curling up in a ball over here. I'm sorry dad. It's all right. Let's head over to uh, knowledgefight.com and that'll soothe your soul But it absolutely well. Oh, yeah, you can check out our website over there You can click on the button that says support the show if you'd like to donate We would really appreciate it. I write a new blog every thursday one will be up tomorrow Or today when you're listening to this if you're not listening alive, uh, it's at knowledge underscore fight on twitter
Starting point is 02:10:08 That's correct. Also facebook and uh, then uh, uh, oh you can go to Itunes, right? Can you go to stitcher? You cannot Stitcher is the libertarians of podcast distribution services. Can you go to audible? No, I think you can go to itunes about spotify. Um, you know, uh, youtube you can go to youtube you can go to youtube Yeah, we have youtube and itunes and then some other places that curate podcast. Oh, check us out on media matters. There you go Um, we'll be guessing on media matters as podcasts from now on. Yeah. Yeah Do they have podcasts? I probably everybody has podcasts. Anyway, uh, this has been fun. This has been fun Yeah, I know it's been alternately stressful and exciting for you dan and I apologize last 20 minutes or so not been pleasurable
Starting point is 02:10:56 You've attacked my therapist and then Anyway, all right, then my therapist is a good man. He's not anything like this one dude. What what what dude? Uh, this guy So does your therapist have fake teeth? Doesn't no. How about a huge spindly beard? No Does he hang up all his pictures? Alex Jones is talking about cross eyes being a sign of nobility In uh, england. So this guy that we're talking about he would be noble In uh, in england This guy has a cross eye just like me
Starting point is 02:11:26 Probably the only thing we have in common quite frankly beard. Yeah. Anyways, name's john rapport And he can go fuck himself and now here's the part where I would say may the wolf choke on his flesh But jordan has pointed out to me that that or you did and another listener pointed out that that's kind of a compliment Yep, and uh, so uh, I'll no longer say it That's why you've been said you're on the air. Thanks for holding So, i like some of the same color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you

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