Knowledge Fight - #999: January 16, 2025

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan ruminate on having done 1000 episodes of a podcast, then check in to see Alex interview the potential future president of Romania. Celine's charity drive

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge Knowledge fight Need money Stop it Andy and Andy and Kansas Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan.

Dan. Jordan. Quick question for ya. What's up? What's your bright spot tonight, buddy? Where do you go first? My bright spot is tennis! Holy shit.

Yeah, the Australian Open, second week of the Australian Open beginning. All right. Very exciting. Second week. Second week. How'd the first go? The first went rough for a lot of people ruffa ruff

Yeah, rough for a lot of people to American teenagers to American teenagers are in the second week of that's crazy That is it is it's legitimately crazy one of them Alcatraz? No, Alcaraz is, he's Spanish. Oh. These kids aren't even supposed to, they're like way ahead of schedule. OK.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. People have been talking about him. When we say teenagers, we mean like 18, 19? Yeah, 18. OK. Well, I mean, well, the end of, yeah, the era of. It's not like a 13, 14. No, no, no, we're not there yet.

That would be wild. We're not there yet. Although Coco, Coco Goff was like 14 whenever she was, she broke into the tour. Uh, she's incredible. Yeah. What like a, that wouldn't be unbelievable to me, but it would also be surprising. It would be crazy. Yeah. Uh, but yeah. So these cats, uh, they're on the up and comers list, uh, who were, people are like, Hey, three years from now, these kids in their early 20s. They fell out they get some power behind them. They're gonna play well this one kid Five set match beat medvedev whoa five sets wait the prime minister of Russia almost

He'll he'll be there someday. Hopefully the 80s are coming back, baby, um Yeah, yeah, but it was it went to like four in the morning there So I got to watch a lot of it in the United States. And it was crazy. It was crazy to see that happening, because Medvedev is the kind of guy who wins those matches on account of he's the octopus.

He's just got long limbs. Sure. And when it goes on for a really long time, you probably favor experience. Absolutely. You know, like someone who knows how to stave a little bit in the tank for when you need it. And he's done it before too. Plenty of times. He's got that and his style is like, I'm just going to get it back buddy. So a lot of those guys, they tire themselves out. They're trying to hit the ball through him and he's the octopus. So he's just long. He dangles and the ball just lands in the goddamn court every time. Makes you angry. All right.

This kid, 18 years old, wow. Beat him, crazy. He beat the octopus. Beat the octopus. What's his animal nickname? Does he have one? No, his name's Lerner T. He's too young, he's too young for a nickname yet.

They just call him Lerner T.N. The Lerner. They've tried a lot of headlines with- The school band. Oh, Lerner teaches a medvedev... It's gotta be. It's not good. Okay.

Not good. I see him posing with a ruler. Or making a ruler into a tennis racket. Oh, that'll be fun. I like that. Nice little Esquire cover. You know what is very close to a tennis court? Chalkboard.

Very close. I mean, in what, just because there's, I mean, it's not chocolate. Well, they are, well, yes, they are green. Yeah. Fair? Not all chalkboards are green, though. That's fair. That's enough.

I think of black when I think of chalkboard. Yeah, I guess that's true. But you're right, there are green chalkboards. There are some of them. Yeah, there's tons of them. Especially in the 70s, whenever they thought green was a cool color sure and it still is green Still green still a cool color. I'm insistent on that of the colors. Yeah, one of the cooler ones. It's up there How about you? What's your bright spot? So I have two I have two things. Yeah, first is checking in on the

Eating stuff. Yes. I have every now and again I do a little bit of night eating. Sure. I know that your wife is also someone who engages in this kind of behavior. Stunch night eater. Yeah and sometimes it's a little hazy. Sometimes I have vague memories of something that I got up in the middle of the night and ate. Right. And this is one of them. Uh huh. It was something a candy that someone sent It was in a bag of mixed stuff. Okay, so it was like a bunch of different gummy ish type of thing Yeah, and this I vaguely remember as a circus peanut kind of thing But it was a banana and I've never experienced circus peanut. Yeah, but something not circus peanut, right?

right, right, right. So it was the consistency and the like. I think so. Either that or I dreamed it. I've never, yeah, you're right. The circus penis tastes like circus peanuts. It's a single thing. I've never seen stray from the form at all.

I've never seen like a fruity candy corn. Nope. That's not how it works. No, candy corn is candy corn is it is what it is. There is no other version of it No, and this that's why I was very surprised by this And so I give it high marks for nice even though I don't like it Also, even if it might have been a dream Still high marks if I came up with it. It's a great idea So the second thing is getting these buttons sent out.

And this has nothing to do with that at all. Completely separate off to the side. I have launched a GoFundMe for people if they want to chip in and donate to a good cause. We're raising money for the Transgender Law Center. And the name of that, if people want to chip in, donate a little, it is NAP Loving Celine's Call for Justice. That was the AI generated name that GoFundMe came up with. Because I guess I mentioned that Celine was taking a nap in the body of the write-up. So NAP Loving Celine's Call for Justice if people want to want to get in on some some good

Charitability how have we ever lived without AI? You know where would where would nap loving Celine come from it really cut through the the BS Yeah, absolutely just get straight to the cat is calling for justice. Yep done and done. Yep, boom So that that's, and I hope people Chip in we will so today Jordan. We have an episode to go over okay, and it's gonna be a little short Sure, probably a little bit on the short side mmm. This is episode 999 it is and so I maybe feel a little bit weird I don't know. I mean yeah yeah the the we're not people who are really into milestones all that much but I feel like it might be getting to

me a little bit the thousand I feel like I might be having some thousand was the round number that gets to you that's why we don't celebrate milestones because I think it's a crazy fucking number let's why because it's a thousand. You know what? I was thinking this because my wife's mom, a fantastic woman, she texted like, I can't believe you got to a thousand. And my response was, people eat pasta a thousand times? In one sitting. Sometimes.

They have all those spaghetti. There's all those goddamn spaghetti, right? Yeah. So like... No, I understand that yeah But I think it would also be a little bit strange if you counted the number of times you had pasta and you got to 999 I think you would start to have some like introspection and be like sure do I eat too much? Here we are

And if you knew that like other people almost never get to 1000 pasta settings, very true, like 1000 podcast episodes is pretty fucking crazy. It is it is pretty fucking crazy. I will admit that. So I think that maybe I've been been a little bit in a state about that. Really? Tiny bit. Yeah. I just I feel like you know, like I said is like the pasta analogy is this this to me is as natural As any of the other things I do like oh, this is just what I do I don't agree. Yeah, I agree that it but I have that push and pull it shows what we do It's just another episode but at the same time, you know, I get you feels feels like do you make it count? How do you make it count? I mean, you know, I'm coming feels feels like do you make it count? How do you make it count?

I mean, you know, I'm coming up on 30 days with Sonny and honestly that feels like a milestone So I don't know. I don't know what to tell you sure And then you add into the mix like it's happening right at the same time as like Trump is taking office again Yeah, literally the exact same time and eight years of us doing the show. Our anniversary was like a week ago. And like, all of that's happening sort of in the same ball. It just, I don't know, it's a lot to take in. There's a lot of how things change,

how things stay the same very hard. Right, yeah. The conflict and tension between the idea of being in reruns and seeing Alex and being like this is kind of rerun ish Sure, we are we rerunning is thousand and one gonna be Start start from the top everybody. It's tough. It's tough to See like well, we have the we have the power to not yeah Sort of sure

And so what do we do? How do we maximize that? I think eventually we're going to have to go back to the past because it is only by going back to the past that we can truly understand the present. That's true. And so I think we're going to have to do 2020 again. I think we'll do every episode that we did from 2020 and that'll'll teach us maybe 2010. Yeah, that makes way more sense. Yeah, I actually support that. Maybe maybe I will explore some of the past again. I think it's a good idea. We'll see what happens. Yeah. But for now, we're gonna talk about the 13th of January 2025. All right, 2025. Skip over to the 16th because I lost interest entirely. Yeah, yeah, okay. But first, let's take a little moment

to say hello to some new wonks. Ooh, that's a great idea. So first, Gwen and Tessa, Eponsoynagingmofo sense 2024. Thank you so much, you're an apology wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Part of that was that they were going to enjoy

you trying to pronounce it. I think I probably nailed it. I think you crushed it. Next, Anthony, for Christmas, Dan and Jordan are saying your name's allowed. Don't be a loser, little titty baby. Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much and Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Next, I just got back from mailing a deep pan of brownies, but now I can't find my bucket of poop. Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas. And we have a tech credit in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much. You're now policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Merry Christmas Merry Christmas and we had a tech credit in the mix Jordan. So thank you so much too We had to put Lilith down the day alex announced bankruptcy. She listened to more knowledge fight than any cat I know so we still worship at her altar. Thank you so much. You're now technocrat. I'm a policy wonk Go home to your mother. Tell her you're brilliant. Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action. He's a loser little little kitty, baby I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. All right, P. Lilith. Yeah, our animal friends deserve a technocrat Yes for sure. Yeah, so we start here on the 13th. Yes, and I just was like fuck you. Organization for economic cooperative development. That's the Marshall Plan. That's the real global

government that set up the UN at the same time after World War II. That's the Rockefeller Rothschild combine literally funded its founding. Look it up. The funding, the buildings, the the same time after World War II. That's the Rockefeller Rothschild combine literally funded its founding. Look it up. The funding the buildings, the infrastructure, everything and then start getting governments to sign over

sovereignty to it. Now they already took over Europe because they've been blown away and didn't really have a choice. The goal the goal staged his own little counter coup. That's why he is a French hero. And kicked.

NATO out and grabbed. NATO's nuclear weapons, that's a footnote in history books. You think it's kind of a big deal. He got troops together and went into the base of the airport and grab the nukes. Said, I have the nuclear weapons. I'm in. I'm in command. Sorry free france Was that the rock france still is in the eu today was brought back into it

Sure But it wasn't even called the eu and de gaulle Did that he said i'm not under the oecd Look it up. Then they tried to kill him a bunch of times sure the jackal and all that So he's a trumpian figure there, General de Gaulle. And so see, people ask how I know all this. It's fascinating. Why would you not want to study all this and know how things actually work? See how things actually work. I'm not a professional historian, especially not one of the masters of French history,

which I assume is far more complicated. But my understanding- Especially now that the language is dying. Absolutely. My understanding was always that De Gaulle, World War II hero, horrible tyrant. Like those two things, like it started good, went, didn't go good. Trumpian figure in part of that. Yeah.

You could say. I would say yeah. I think Alex's version, also as not a super historian myself, I can tell you that Alex's version of what happened with nuclear weapons in France is a little bit off. That feels very Sean Connery in the rock. Charles de Gaulle is very noted for his not going along with NATO's wishes for France not to develop nuclear weapons. Right. But he didn't storm an airport hangar and steal nuclear weapons to free the French

people. And then he said, I'm the captain now to Tom Hanks. Now the bigger problem is the Jackal. That is an issue. Is a fake character in a movie. I was concerned. I was concerned that for a moment I was willing to gaslight myself into everything I've ever known being wrong and maybe the Jackal was real. Nope. Okay, good. So the Jackal is 1973 movie, right? That is about attempted assassination on Charles de Gaulle. Sure. So Alex is definitely talking about that movie. It is a very specific thing, but it is a fake character Right is fiction sure, but this is where it gets all kinds of messy because it's historical fiction

Sure Charles de Gaulle is a character in it right the jumping-off point is About a real-world failed assassination Attempt on de Gaulle sure but then the jackal and the character and the whole plot of the thing is fake It's all it's Alex's brain is not designed to Handle historical fiction. It's too fucked up for him. Okay, is it possible? All right that the jackal Despite being made post Charles de Gaulle's attempted assassination, right? Was somehow still predictive programming to time travelers. Yeah, probably. Okay. Yeah if I had to bet on

Monkey scenario. I feel like that's what we're doing here. Yeah. Yeah, so I think when you're citing the jackal I Have Sighting I have no time like he's citing the jackal and then being like isn't it interesting to know how things really work? Yeah, no fictional movie. Yeah, I can't imagine reading like a Like he's citing the jackal and then being like, isn't it interesting to know how things really work? Yeah. Like in a fictional movie? Yeah, I can't imagine reading like a recent history book that has a footnote that then sends you to the end notes, which say just like, day of the jackal, comma, obviously it's AP style 73, you know, it does the whole thing.

I would not, I would not trust that any further. No, no, it's, it's an indication of poor quality. Microsoft and Carta. Well, I think that, you know, if you're, if you're, um, you know, writing a paper on ideas and stuff like that, you could cite the matrix. Sure. Because there's ideas explored within it. There are ideas. But then if you're trying to cite it for historical notation outside of like, oh, it changed things in cinema. Right. If you're doing any historical shit

about these fictional movies, you're off base. Right, so if you were to write a paper that had at one point, no one knows when the AI officially took over and what year it is, and then you sighted the Matrix. You'd be in trouble. That could be an issue. You failed. Yeah, that would be an issue.

So Alex is talking a lot about the fires in LA. And I realized, as I was listening to it, there's nothing here. Like all of it is just that level of, let's the jackal right right or it's all just the exact same shit. He said about Lahaina Yeah, it's all just Maui fire conspiracies over again. Yeah, it's not even worth discussing It's he's not even putting anything new into it brutal. Yeah, and so I bid him adieu smart And we jump in back on the 16th knew into it. It's brutal. Yeah. And so I bid him adieu. Smart. And we jump in back on the 16th.

And Alex is, he's in a mood. He's in a concerned mood. Okay. Even though we know that the woke mind virus has been defeated. Yeah. I feel like we should be celebrating. We should have celebrated a little bit more. There should have been a party at least. Sure, or at least get back to catastrophic contagion or the aliens or something.

We had a mission accomplished. Things were better back in the day. We had a full on mission accomplished banner only a few years into the 20 year war. That was the big energy that the woke mind virus defeated. Yeah, well, that could be we're all realists. Elon Musk sitting on a airport or aircraft barrier. So Alex is concerned here on the 16th. The spectacular collapse of the globalist system and all their networks and their modes of control is moving so quickly.

I would liken it to a singularity of awakening. Sure. I mean, I think the show is. Then I was trying right before the show went live eight minutes ago. Broadcast. To try to try to quantify in my mind with all this data why I'm so Concerned deeply concerned a level of concern. I've never felt before cool real Urgency a Desperateness that the final the real urgency, a

desperateness, the final sand is running out of the hourglass from the top into the bottom. And then I was culturally, intellectually, mathematically, politically integrating that just during the last one minute break. the last one minute break. And it hit me. All of this evil coming out is very good. But when the general public really finds out how bad things are and that the globalist have

been deliberately killing people and poisoning people and all the rest of it. Sure. It is going to cause a lot of mental problems. I mean, if you think we've got a lot of mental health issues now, people that have bought into the system when they find out they've been totally betrayed, and that there was a plan to fully collapse civilization that is ongoing and that and that even Elon Musk has said He's not sure can be reversed. So when Alex is saying that like he's deeply concerned

In a way that he's never felt before sure. I think it's because There's no more road. Yeah in front of him. Yeah, they won But it yeah, they have they have control of every aspect of the government they control the Supreme Court Yeah, Elon Musk owns Twitter. Yeah, Rogan and Tucker are majorly culturally influential people who are Willing to associate with Alex sure there is no excuse. No, the woke mind virus is dead If you want me to drain the swamp again, why? You control all of this. Yeah. There's a concern that he's having because after Monday, what's your

excuse? Yeah, that is a really good point. And things are going to get bad. Sure, they should. After Monday. Based upon everything we've ever known yeah yeah and the the the weak shit excuse of like uh the deep state holdovers or undermining trump like i know it's gonna get excited about that again you just can't it's we've already done that we've we've we've gone over this territory and i think that alex realizes on some level that like, fuck, I've really been skating by on getting people scared that maybe Jamie Raskin is going to stop the certification on January 6th and then it doesn't happen. Uh oh, we're marching forward towards inauguration and all of the crazy elaborate plots that the globalists had cooked up. None of it's happened.

Yeah. Okay. All right. So here's, here's, so here's what we've got. We've got a Lord of the ring situation, right? So you defeat Sauron. Uh, good. Great. Then you got to go home to the Shire, right? But yeah, it sucks in the Shire because you can never go home again. Uh, you know, you can, and also Saruman still there fucking everything up. Uh, so you can never go home again. You never step in the same river twice. Now you have to diminish and go into the West. That's Galadriel's point. You have to diminish and go into the West. Alex has got to go, man. I do think that there is very little left for him to reasonably do. And I think that what it amounts to is diminishing. Yeah, and it's there's a recognition I think on some level that he's like I'm gonna have to

Do some bad shit. I'm gonna have to defend really bad shit. Yeah or Just spin my wheels here for four years. Okay now here's what I'm thinking All right. So here we rewrite Lord of the Rings. They defeat Sauron, but they decide that any monarchical leader, anybody who's singular with total power, can no longer be trusted. They're all threatened, they're all possible Saurons, right? So the hobbits, they don't go back home to the Shire,

they go to fucking Minas Tirith, right? And they're just gonna fuck with Aragorn for the rest of their lives until Aragorn goes down. Then they're headed to the woods. They're going to take down Galadriel. They're on a mission to take down every government. So I think Alex has got to go full on evil hobbit. Well, I think that if you expand the metaphor a little bit, I think that is what he's doing. I think it's a very strained metaphor as it is. Yeah. And I think that you also have a situation that Alex, I think, recognizes that he's in. And that is a bad situation. It would have been shitty if Ron Paul had won and all the government was taken over

by We Are Change people back in the time of the Tea Party. Alex would not be a figure that anyone talked about anymore now if that had happened. He's in that situation now. Like they they have what amounts to control over everything. And I think he realizes that like, fuck, if Trump follows through with this idea to do mass deportation drives and stuff like that, they're going to end up brutalizing tons of people. Yep. They're going to end up sweeping up tons of citizens in these dragnets. We put people in cages last time. They're children.

They're going to displace all sorts of people, traumatize communities, and Alex is gonna have to be gung-ho in support of all of this. He's gotta love it. Yeah, and I think that he realizes like, ah shit, this is gonna be bad. I'm gonna be the defender of a police state.

And then I think he also recognizes that he chose wrong in even within that box that he's put himself in. Yeah. By being so defending of Elon Musk. Because I think that he sees some writing on the wall that like the whole sticking true to the hating globalists kind of thing sure isn't going to be well served by cozying up to this billionaire. Sure. The whole sticking true to the hating globalists kind of thing isn't going to be well served by cozying up to this billionaire. Whenever this fake populism that we have stirred up in people and tried to hide behind, when that comes to a crescendo, I'm on the wrong side of this.

He should be on the other side like Steve Bannon has been. Steve Bannon's been pretty anti-Musk. And I think that that's the right posturing for the people in this space. I think Alex is out of step. Yeah, the problem is the correct thing to do in this situation is you've got one pivot and that's to go with real populism,

to become a person who's the complete opposite of everything that he's ever been, to have a heel turn in his world. And I don't think that's outside of the possibility. I think, listen, the American media can't wait to make Alex a hero for turning against Trump. They've done it like 50 times. I think they would fall for it. Yeah, absolutely.

I think a fair amount of people would probably fall for it if you tried it. They couldn't wait to fall for it. Yeah, in the same way that he can't wait to be like, oh, Bill Maher said something good, he's a patriot now. Or whatever. The media would be like, oh, Alex has learned his lesson. He could do a Glenn Beck if he wanted to. Totally. And then he still got time to do an un-Glen Beck,

and he could even tell people he was going to do an un-Glen Beck. I don't know. I don't think that his current Positioning is worth it and I think he realizes that yeah, he realizes how bad things are gonna get. Yeah He's just he's just in a spot where all he has to do is do the thing, right? He just has to change everything that it's about him Which is interesting is that because it does feel like he's been funneled into a place where that's his only rational choice. His only rational choice is to abandon the past 30 years of his life.

Right? No. But you can't do that. Strongly disagree. I think continuing down the path that he appears to be going down now is that. Is that turning on the perception of the last 30 years of his life? Okay, I apologize. In order to become a real populist, he would have to stake out positions that he has been vocally against for the longest time. At least the last eight years.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that that would be way more interesting than hearing him complain about how people are mad that he likes Elon Musk. But, hey, we'll see what ends up happening. Yep, yep. Um, so Alex's concern, part of it is this idea that once people see the light and see how bad everything is, they're gonna be, they're gonna go crazy.

Sure. And there's gonna be some bad shit that ends up happening. Fair. And what are we gonna to do with all the like fucking useless people? Oh, let's not do that. Let's not ask ourselves that question. Never a good question. Strange question to hear Alex wrestling with. Myself, all of you, everybody needs to really get their game face on and get their head

in the game. And we don't have time for playing around. And I do see a lot of serious seriousness now, not just here, but around the world by leaders and thinkers at every level. And so there is a, again, a hyper fast understanding taking place. And so the understanding taking place. And so. That's the good news is at least we are dislodging a lot of the really bad guys that set this up. And that have created so many of these crises and exacerbated others and not let others that they didn't create go to waste. I

Just hope humanity understands that we are in an emergency and You know, I see people on the left and the so-called right attack me and I talked about this last week going Oh Jones, you know said another emergency broadcast. I mean have you looked around you is that us I feel like that's us 77% of young people are too sick and fat and mentally ill to be able to even pass the basic military entrance exam that is I Mean people with ad IQs can pass that. I mean, we're talking low grade morons. Is that how that works?

And what do you do with all these people that have been drinking red dye number three and aspartame and their mothers didn't breastfeed them. So they were on formula that absolutely, lowers your IQ massively. the the death of a man. And I think that's what's happening. From the covid shots and all of it that. Yeah we're winning this death battle and the bad guys are going to get it. We

have a responsibility to be brutal. And merciless. In dis lodging them and prosecuting them and imprisoning them so they can't keep doing it. And to scare their minions to not try to reorganize what they've done. But that's that's the first stage of this. And we have to understand that if we're not hardcore. It's over.

We're going to blow the planet up. I've heard people say a lot less extreme things than that and Alex has said that they're calling for extermination of the useless eaters. Yep. And what have you. Yep. This is fucked up. Like I know, I know that if you want to be overly generous, you can look at this and

say like, he's not calling for killing off those 77% of people who can't pass military tests. Wrong. Absolutely not. But he is, he's saying what do we do with all of these stupid people that weren't breastfed and got vaccines and now are useless? If they're around, we're going to blow ourselves up. The world's's gonna end. He's making preemptive kind of overtures towards Yeah, like locking up idiot people people that he views as idiots or let people who believe left-leaning politics

Yeah, I remember being annoyed because I remember having so many like Slippery slope slippery slope you do the thing and I've realized that those are the same people who are not making slippery slope, slippery slope, you do the thing. And I've realized that those are the same people who are not making slippery slope arguments. They're just lying about their true arguments. Right? Like I've read a bunch of books by, you know, like where we're philosophers, but also we're, you know, all that stuff. And eventually they get to a certain point where they're like, it's not eugenics. And you're like, that's when you start talking about your eugenics. It's not eugenics, but you are, yeah,'s when you start talking about your eugenics. It's not eugenics, but. You are, yeah, you're doing the thing, stop it.

Stop acting like you're not doing the thing. No, no, no, it's about breastfeeding. No, absolutely not. Nobody's, anytime people are like, oh, what are we gonna do with all these useless people? It is never, well, let's just give everybody an apprentice. We double the workforce immediately. Everybody has somebody that they just teach to do their job. That's it. Done.

That's definitely not the way that this vibes. Never. This is coming off. Never an idea. It's always like, well, we got to get rid of them. No. Well, I think that one of the things that, you know, obviously Alex made a lot of money on basing his career around is stuff like, uh, Yuval Noah Harari saying things like they're going to be a whole class of people that are going to be unemployable in the future when we have automation and, and, and robotics and stuff. Sure. And Alex has decried that as a mentality that is genocidal and exterminationist, and he's mirroring very similar thoughts.

Yeah. He should check in on that. No, it's objective. It's objective to just rationally look at the resources that we have right now and conclude that we have to eugenics a bunch of people. Makes perfect sense. I think he should I Don't know I

want to say go back to booze, but This is a bad look. I think he's got to go Scorpio from from the Simpsons. He's just got to have an underground lair Volcano style get some henchmen like just do it up like an underground lair. That'd be great I think we all deserve an underground. What are we gonna do with all those useless people give them underground layers start a public works program where we build underground? Oh, nope can't do it. We got to get rid of them. So on this episode the 16th Alex has a guest Yeah, and it is not a very interesting interview at all. Sure the fact that it happened is really, really wild. Do you want to try and guess who it is? It's not Kevin Sorba.

I mean, it feels like that one is probably my crowding achievement. Is it Roseanne again? No, because we already know that. I'll tell you, it's not an American. It's not an American. Okay. Archbishop Desmond Tutu, is he dead? I think he's dead. Shit. And Alex would not have a good interview with

him. Well that's why it would be very surprising. Yeah. I would be shocked to see that interview. That would be very surprising, yeah. No, it is Caelan Gheorghescu. Never heard of that person. You have, at very least in passing, he's the ultra-nationalist candidate for the presidency in Romania who they threw out the first round of elections when he won. Right, I do remember that now. I had something to say about Esquius being... So he's on. Great! Alex landed an interview with the guy who was leading in the polls for the presidency of Romania. Right, right.

So he's got a Romanian Nazi on. Um, sort of. Alex gives a long introduction to him. All right. So I'm going to try to go to our very special guest and give him the floor here to speak. He speaks great English, but... Great start. Understand, ladies and gentlemen, that. 17 years working within the United Nations, serving as the O H C H R special

repertoire on the adverse effects of transportation of toxic and hazardous products on human rights product director of the UNDP, UNEP, representative for Romania's National Council, executive director of the UN Institute for the Global Sustainability Index. That's the model of the whole global ESG system. I mean, this guy's at the top. He served as president of the European Research Council for the Club of Rome. I mean, that's the the still live next hour and I'll tackle the front of this when we upload it to X this needs to get 100 million views so Colleen George's Q just had his victory stolen from he is the admitted president of Romania they're not even denying they took it from him and the people of Romania and they're saying it's the model for everywhere else and since then they've dissolved parliament the people who are in the parliament, and they're

saying it's the model for everywhere else. And since then, they've dissolved Parliament in Canada and dress not resigning. And that's not even a major news issue. So so. Colleen. Thank you so much for your

time, sir. We really appreciate you. We could talk about what's happened with the election, the big demonstrations against it. All the things that are the all the things that are happening. Uh but to me, go there first of you think it's

best, but the time we have, I'm just don't stop because I'm trying to give you the floor. Maybe we should go back to the beginning about who you are. What you did top diplomat directing one of the top, uh, you know, systems for the U. Ning their entire scoring system for global government. I mean, you are a true insider. And then your

whole process of being read into what it was really about, which you've exposed before. But I want you to recap for those that don't know. And then going to your country, galvanizing the people, leading them back into freedom and helping bring the

world from the verge of nuclear war. And then they stage a coup against you and your people and leading them back into freedom and and helping bring the world from the verge of nuclear war and Then they stage a coup against you and your people and then it met its accrue. This is unprecedented So sir, that's a long introduction. Thank you so much Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Alex. Thank you for having me today and I very much appreciate your Introduction which is amazing in the sense of the spirit of Romanian people, because this is the most important point. Great and historical nation, speaking about Romania, I'm very proud that I'm part of

Romanian nation. I am very proud that I'm Romanian, but nevertheless that we have to take care about our humanity. I think this is the most important point. So this is insane that this is happening. Yeah. That this interview is happening. Yeah. And it's also insane the way that Alex is presenting things.

This guy, Gheorghescu does have this stuff in his resume. Sure. Like he was like pretty high up in the Club of Rome. He's a diplomat and such. Did the stuff. Yeah. That stuff's fair enough. But he did not win the election. Wow. He won the first round of the election that went to a runoff, and then that was canceled. So they didn't take away the presidency from him as much as they disrupted that process.

And there's a new election that has been scheduled. Sure. I believe in May. There's a redo. Yeah. And part of the reason for this is he was polling very low. And then there was a blitz of a ton of advertising on TikTok. And a lot of it, based on things that have been released by the Romanian intelligence

agencies, there is strong belief that these things were paid promotional ads for his campaign that were undisclosed political advertising. Right. Which is illegal. Right. So this is the big concern that led to him jumping from like 5% to 23% in the polls. Right. 23% was enough to lead in the primary round, the first round. Yeah. The second place person had like 19%. So it's going to be a runoff between them. And I think odds are if those numbers

were continuous and legitimate, he had a decent chance at winning the second round of the runoff. But you have what is essentially a quagmire here. There isn't really a good thing to do. Right. I mean, I think ultimately they are doing the good thing though, is that if you do an illegal thing that gets you to the thing, you have to redo it like we don't do that we have a system wherein like the

You know Roger Stone can go to jail in 2016 for all kinds of weird stuff Affecting the election. Yeah, but we'll just keep the results sure, you know, and we'll let the person who benefits pardon that guy Yeah, yeah, that's totally fine. That makes sense. But like the the issue that that why I'm describing this as a quagmire while I agree with you, I think you I think that if there is illegality here, throwing out these results and doing or do over, right, makes sense. But it is a quagmire. But then the reason is because realistically throwing out that election is probably going to make him a higher profile candidate. Probably.

And create the appearance of like everyone being so afraid of him. It's going to make it more likely that you redo the election and he gets even higher numbers probably. Right. Sure. It's possible. It feeds into the ethos and story of characters like him. Sure.

Uh, uh, uh, electorally. Absolutely. So if you're trying to stop him as a candidate, this is not what you would do, but that story is easy to tell for someone like him and someone like Alex. Yeah, yeah, but you know, I mean, at a certain point, you just gotta do it, you gotta do it.

It's illegal, so we gotta do it, you know, like unfortunately Well, fortunately for them, right their system works on like an almost it like it's a failsafe Like the law is a failsafe, which is kind of what it should be Like if shit is so wrong that it's illegal. We got to do it again, you know, it's just what it's got to be done Yeah, and I don't want to fully back this because I don't believe from everything that I've seen, I know exactly what happened or what these paid advertisements were on TikTok. And I think that it is easy to overstate some amount of like, what evidence do you have that these were paid advertisements as illegal campaign stuff? So I want to leave the window open there for a little bit of like, hey, there could be

some shady shit going on. There always is. Yeah. But from what has been provided to my awareness at this point, if that is the illegal campaigning that's done, yeah, yeah brought those results do it over I just think that the story that's being told is of a power structure and like the UN That cannot tolerate the idea of georgia school getting it right and so they're doing a georgia school, right? But they're not no what the actions that they're taking Right, but they're not. No.

The actions that they're taking aid him. They're very reasonable. But they also aid him probably from a public image standpoint. Probably. Yeah. So if you were them and you were going to try and pull off a coup of some sort, this is not what you would do. No.

This is, this is, this is, you wouldn't let him on the second ballot. You wouldn't let him on the redo election. Sure. I mean, that would be what you'd. Or if you were some sort of, or like if, if this was information that you kind of deep throated, you know, and you, then you would release it deep throat from the thing. I got you. I, I, I, not.

I get you. Yeah. Yeah. But then you could like release it as an October surprise kind of thing. And then you, you altered the race. Like that would be more effective than being like, Hey guys, sorry. The rules are, you know, nobody wants to replay the last point. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's, it's, I mean, overall it's just like, wow, okay. This guy does have a reasonable chance of winning this election when they redo it. And here he is with Alex.

It's fucked up. You know what? Today Kudos released another video, which goddamn they're great. They're very enjoyable. On YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wish it weren't about us, because it feels very navel gaze-y just to enjoy it. They're really well done, but but it's about me so I feel like an asshole. Well, it's more about Marty Schachter's soap company. That's what I was, so that's what I'm saying is like, man, that's a guest. That's a guest

right there. The three limerick shot that he took, brutal, brutal attack on Alex's psyche. But it's a guy who has a soap company. It's not the Romanian possible prime minister. Right. In the in between state, between the election results being thrown out and the redo election, he's like at a time when this is the most impactful time that this person could be here and he's choosing to come on Alex's show, which is crazy. It is insane. Because a lot of the time it is I mean it is still like in consequential lunatics who end up showing up on Alex's totally This is someone who's you know fairly relevant and possibly a world leader

Yeah fucked up which which is which is interesting because it's so much like the the means are the message, right? It doesn't matter if he, what he says on Alex Jones and Infowars. What matters is he was there. Yeah. And it's not really all that interesting of an interview from somebody who was like high up in the club of Rome, talking to Alex. You'd think like, Oh man, we're going to get in the weeds. This is going to be really interesting. And instead there's a lot of stuff about how this election is unfair. And obviously I get why he's saying that. there's a lot of stuff about how this election is unfair and Obviously I get why he's saying that yeah, and then a lot of kind of vague platitudes about how

Inside the UN they don't care about peace. They care about war Sure, I mean just from a 30,000 foot view I get what you're saying sure But it's yeah, it's not very interesting. It's just that it happened. Yeah, I just if it's me Doing the thing if I'm gonna go on info wars, and I'm this guy I'm definitely not worried about credibility loss. Mm-hmm, so I go on and I I play ball with Alex I'm talking about sex parties that never happened. I'm talking about people who are fucking crazy doing all this shit. I'm not saying names,

because I'm smarter than Alex Jones is. I'm doing all this stuff. I'm having a ball. I can't imagine trying to be a reasonable, well, I feel like my vision for the country is better. Yeah, he just comes off as kind of like, you know, a politician I disagree with. Yeah. But like it's, I want, if you're talking to this guy who's an insider, who has all this

shit, let's get, let's, let's do this. Instead, the level of preparation that Alex seems to be expressing is the, you already won the presidency. I'm going to superimpose all kind of Trump talking points onto you you right and I just I don't know I don't find it I think it's it's shit yeah so Alex tries to play play big big dog okay with George Eskimo okay but the situation of Europe is very very difficult right now because they invest a lot a lot of money in this war. But in any case, the wave is coming because you have seen the situation in Austria, you

have seen the situation in Croatia, which also a leader, a real leader. That's right. I forgot to add, they've been trying to block the election results in Austria for over a month. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But in any case, important is that the wave is coming. And it's a snowball effect of the sovereignty, not only in Europe, but in whole world. And of course, I really hope that President Trump

will act about this situation as soon as he will be confirmed in January 20. This is very important position, which we are looking all of us. Yes, sir. I'm sure you're already doing this, but I would advise you to get in contact with his top people, but just go there when he's there. He will meet you. And believe me, you need to come meet with President Trump. Just go there when he's

Yeah, look, what I want to mention here is that the legacy media notify permanently a wrong situation in Ukraine. In my opinion, Zelensky won the PR war, but Putin won the real war. Yeah, so he's very much against supporting Ukraine. Sure. And that's one of the reasons why everyone likes him. Everyone likes Alex. This is the thing. Gotcha. But I think that there's two kind of implications inside this clip that are wild.

One is that Alex is trying to connect Gheorghescu with Trump. Yep. That seems like that connection might already be made, but Alex seems to think that he's a central spoke in this wheel, which is fucking insane because he was just citing the jackal earlier. But then the second thing is that Alex seems to be presenting a position that Trump doesn't know about this. And that seems weird. Alex should think that Trump doesn't know about this. Yeah. And that seems weird. Alex should think that Trump already knows about this.

Sure. And is very concerned about major- Election results. Yes. And he's taking a personal interest because he's got his own election results. No, no, you got to just show up at Mar-a-Lago. He'll talk to you, it'll be totally cool.

Once he knows about what you're going through, he'll totally get your back. That's weird. It feels like it shouldn't be allowed for a person to sound this reasonable as though he's talking to a person. What are you doing? This guy just recently cited the jackal

as a major issue for Charles DeGaul. You shouldn't be like, oh, well, I prefer this candidate. Fucking dance, do a little, throw some salt in the air, Charles de Gaulle. Right? Like, you shouldn't be like, oh well I prefer this candidate. Fucking dance! Do a little, throw some salt in the air! Do something crazy! Yeah, it would be nice. Instead they're having a normal conversation about how maybe Alex will get him into the inner circle of Trump. Why? That's fucking infuriating! It is. It is. So really just to have one more clip because their interview really isn't

that interesting. Like I said, it's just that it happened. But Alex is declaring him the president of Romania. Well, okay. President George Husku, you are the president. They admit you were the winner. And the fact that they're now bragging at the EU that they'll do it in Germany and cancel the AFD win, if they win, is extreme arrogance.

And could you just speak to that? I mean, this is one of the most naked coups I've ever seen in the last hundred years, and I've studied history. This is flagrantly out in the open. Why do you think they're so arrogant? And as you said, your own media keeps acting like it's not a coup, but then the EU and NATO leaders are bragging. Yeah, because they're disparates. They make, they're doing a lot of mistakes. So Alex has declared him the president of another country. This is weird.

There's so much projection just of like what he feels about Trump. He's now Romania's Trump. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And. He's now Romania's Trump. Yeah. Yeah And I don't think that's good. No, it is it is strange to like confront a real life like Everything is associated with the God King Like it is really strange because they're treating him not like not even like a president or like the fucking Queen

They're treating him like a Pharaoh right like a straight-up like he is God's Representative on earth because he is also part God and when he dies he will return to God hood alongside the other pantheon until he Revisits us his son will fill in absolutely for him because he has a piece of it totally and then we'll just do the thing again when well I'm fine with building a pyramid if we just do it right fucking now and we don't let him govern and shit you know like let's do that like let's just bank a pyramid I'm also fine with you being like he is our god king and all of this because then we can respond accordingly sure like I am totally fine if you want to have a messianic religious connection with Trump and argue that he should be president based on that. Sure. If you're

going to be transparent and open about that, then we can, you know, have a conversation about that openly. Right. As opposed to this kind of bullshit. Yeah. Where you're trying to have it both ways. Yeah, have it political and Demons walk among us and attack Tucker in his sleep like it's bullshit Yeah it is it is a situation where it really exemplifies that that concept of the meek shall inherit the earth kind of the thing like Calling people the meek, you know is is to a certain extent saying the massive amount of people that there are In a vacuum if you were like, oh if you cheat on an election should you still win?

They would be like no and even if it's your guy and they'd be like no cheating is wrong We all know this it gets complicated because there's like 50 other really powerful famous liars who are like they're cheating and then you'll never know You know like it is the moment whenever everybody can just be like we all know cheating is bad. We all do So we just stop it, you know, it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, and you know, I think that You know the tension that you have a lot of times when it comes to an election year is that you have to support one side because the other side is Trump. You know, like, there is not room for a little bit of nuance in that.

And Alex gets himself into that kind of position where he is the enemy is the devil. Yeah, and so Trump has to be Like acceptable no matter what like He said that isn't preferable to the devil, right? Right. He said that the like the police should have a one rough day, right? You know, like if the state's said that stuff Alex can't possibly rationalize that but the alternative is the devil Yeah, I mean the justification of your immortal soul has really been used for a lot of bad things Yeah, because what's more important your immortal soul? That's the most important. It's forever You know, so it justifies doing anything to your mortal body as long as the immortal soul is saved Yeah, yeah, and we're hosed because people really like to fuck with your mortal body

Yeah, but they've connected your soul to Trump somehow and Jesus Christ so me we Will be back but like I don't know. There's a lot a lot a lot of roiling thoughts You know 1001 sure let's just Let's just fucking skip it and we'll we'll put out a little note saying this was where 1000 would go And then we'll do 1001 we'll get back to it later. We'll get back to yeah, we'll be better tomorrow but yeah, I just think like You know having all of this kind of percolating at the same time, you know, like it's been eight years of this show

Thousand episodes Trump is coming back into office Alex is a dipshit clown and he is interviewing a guy who's Conceivably going to be the president of Romania and that guy is treating him as though he's not a dipshit clown. Yeah Yeah, yeah, it's a lot to lot to digest It's too much. Yeah too much for any one group of people to digest So maybe we take make take a tiny little breaky. That's true. We'll see we'll see you next Absolutely, but until then we have website indeed we do it's knowledge right calm. Yep, we'll be back but until then I'm neo I'm Leo. I'm TZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor I'm Leo. I'm TZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor. Woo yeah woo yeah woo!

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