Knowledge Fight - Re-Release: January 27, 2016

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

In light of recent events, Dan and Jordan wanted to go back and cover a day when Alex covered law enforcement killing a participant in the Malheur Wildlife Refuge occupation, but it turns out that the...y already covered it.  Enjoy this re-release, originally from 2018.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. That's what we do. Dan, is there a hook to that? There is a hook, and that is that I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Indeed, that is the hook. Also, just because we've got to say it up top. Gotta. This Saturday, we'll be live. You have to listen to this plug. Yep. or you won't get the rest of the show. You can turn it off now, but you won't get the rest of the show. And let me tell you, today, sit through this plug happily because I got some fucked up stuff to play for you that Alex Jones said deep in the past.
Starting point is 00:00:42 That's how good we are at advertising. Guys, hold tight. We're going to plug. Just ignore this part. Please don't. And then you'll get to the, no, no, don't worry about this plug. We got to do it, but just ignore it. Just this isn't for you.
Starting point is 00:00:54 We'll be at the playground theater, January 20th at 10.30 p.m. tickets still available? I don't know. They're going fast. You can get tickets at Playgroundtheater.com slash knowledge dash fight. I think it might just be Playground.com. You know what? The Playground.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Who cares? Hell if I know. This, again, we're bad at this. We'll tweet out the link. Anyway, we'll be live. It'll be a great time. We have a lot of fun. Still not entirely sure what episode of Alex Jones will be covering.
Starting point is 00:01:21 That is still up in the air to a certain degree. Yeah, it's the playground theater. com slash shows slash knowledge dash fight. Yes. That's a lot to get through. Just go to the playground theater.com and figure it out. Right. Sooner or later, you'll be able to buy tickets.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Novelty beverage today is, it's becoming pretty habitual at this point. Arnold Palmer. This time we're going with light, which is a third less calories. The zero calories, which we have been drinking a bit in the past. Apparently, they have four different types, regular. one third less calories, two-thirds less calories, zero calories. Dude, they also got a strawberry one, too. Do that?
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yeah. How many calories? Tons. So much. It's a lot. Almost as many sugars as that one bullshit we drank that one time. Not nearly that much. Not a mystic level.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But something that's mystical in terms of their allure to me is our... The rap. Hero, mystical. No, he's not a hero. He is a horrible dude. I'm sorry, what? He went to prison for aggravated sexual assault.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Okay. And fuck mystical. Yeah, mystical. I take all of that back forever. It really gave a very different feel to that one line of his. It was like, I came it with my dick in my hand. Be cool. Yeah, no, that's not good.
Starting point is 00:02:36 No, that's describing the crime you just committed. Exactly. But, look, I'd like to give a shout out to our donors. No way to pivot out of that one. Jesus. Jordan. What the hell? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I'm tearing it down. I'd like to give a shout out to our new donators. What's up out there? Hannah, thanks for becoming a policy walk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Hannah. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:03:00 You should tell this to your sisters. Oh, boy. I'd like to also give a shout at... Hold on. To your sister. Okay. I'd like also say thank you very much and congratulations to a new globalist out there. Oh, shit! What's up
Starting point is 00:03:15 out there, John H? I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a fucking a poop. Daddy Sharp. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bum.
Starting point is 00:03:26 We really appreciate it so much. Thank you. God, I, look, I don't, this isn't about money anymore. Right. I just want to have one episode where like 10 different people decide to become globalists and we just play that forever. And then we just end the show. That would end up. It's nine seconds long.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yeah, I would be fine with that. I would be fine with that. We do appreciate it so much. And in addition to, like, as if I needed more work to do for this show, in addition to the show that we're putting together. We are well on our way towards making that goal. Oh, really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:59 We are on pace to make the goal, which will force us to start doing the documentary coverage. We did not believe in you. We appreciate it very much. This was a bluff, and you guys have called it. Thank you. If we reach our goal, which I believe we're 60% of the way, too. No, shit. By February 1st, we will begin breaking down Alex Jones's documentary end game,
Starting point is 00:04:22 which will be a disaster for my sanity and my sleep schedule. I'll be fine. My sanity, I pronounce very weirdly. So, Jordan, today on the show, on the broadcast. All right. If you had the plug paused, now is the time to start it. Right. Today, Jordan, as we mentioned on the last show, we got together this weekend and tried to compile a list of potential things to cover for our live show.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Saturday, Playground Theater, 10.30 p.m. January 20th, right? Yeah. We came up with the list. Included on that list was the day Rat Singer, the old Pope stepped down. Which seems like a great day. I think that would have been amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Yeah. Turns out Alex Jones was on a week-long vacation when that happened. And there was a guest host. Well, he was actually voting for the new Pope. He was, I don't know if you knew this or not. Alex Jones is a Cardinal in the Catholic Church. That could be it. That might have explained it.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yep. The other, another one was the leap year in 2012. Right. How's he going to play on his leave? the leap year. Yeah. He might get weird about that, about the calendar and overages and shortages. That's the type of Alex Jones that we like to deal with.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Absolutely. The guy who's like, leap years are globalist plot. I'm in. I'm in. Absolutely. That would be amazing. Unfortunately, I went back to that day and he's just saying, Ron Paul could still win. He's in Louisiana broadcasting from a hotel room.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It's terrible. It's an awful show. I'm a big fan. Very, very boring. Yeah. And so I went through all. of these possibilities and there's just nothing. They're no good. But one of them stuck out in my mind that is like, this is going to be a good one. Yeah. And I was not a live show. I listened to it and it
Starting point is 00:06:02 turns out it is a good one, but we could not do this one live. Okay. And that is the day after LaVoy Finacom got shot by the police in that Oregon. Wait, was that the, the Oregon Wild Life Preserve? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. All right. All right. There we go. Because I knew Alex would be freaking out. You know, it's a crazy coincidence? I have been bored at work, so I've just been listening to old dollops. I listened to that episode earlier today. It's a good episode.
Starting point is 00:06:31 It's a good one. We probably won't get into the actual standoff all that much. I wouldn't understand why we would. We have to deal with it slightly briefly, just because they get super racist about it. Of course. At the same time. How could you not get racist about a bunch of weird, false military white guys occupying a bird reserve.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Right. Well, the way they get racist is really fascinating. And I'm excited to talk about it. But what's more fascinating is Alex, I don't know what's going on. But he says a couple of things in this episode that are beyond the pale. I told you this before the show. Yeah. I stand by it.
Starting point is 00:07:13 You have to look at Alex Jones completely differently after you hear a couple of things he says on this episode. All right. This episode will give some context to some of the beliefs he has. Okay. And where they come from and how stupid he is. Okay. So we will do that. We'll get into that.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I believe orca should run this planet. Climate change is good. Well, that's actually the episode. I mean, you nailed it. Yeah. All right, guys. Let's get out of here. Let's get it.
Starting point is 00:07:38 So where we're going to start today is at the beginning of the episode, Alex Jones is talking about how he doesn't want this to get hot. He doesn't want it to be a hot. war. Right. Right. That's not what they're into. That's not, they're not into shooting.
Starting point is 00:07:55 These people at this preserve are amateurs and it should not. Yeah. There's probably feds. Of course. It shouldn't get into a violent war now. Let's not do that. I'm glad you qualified it with the now part. Well, he's into that.
Starting point is 00:08:11 But then also what he ends up saying after it is incredibly telling about his mentality and his personal feeling about his place in the world. This is some weird stuff to start out with. The Mormons are literal birds. I have put the energy for 21 years of someone willing to die, ready to die, into an information war. But not that way. And I'm fully ready to be set up, fully ready to be put in prison,
Starting point is 00:08:39 fully ready to be killed. But when it happens, I'll do my best if it happens. To have it be just like the archetype of the martyr. If he says Martin Luther King Jr., lower my hands and let Darth Vader cut me right in half. Then I win. Then that death means something. Then that death is worth millions dying in a fight.
Starting point is 00:09:08 But you have to build the consciousness. You have to build the system. You have to build the personality. You have to build the sacrifice. and make the sacrifice great and make the sacrifice loved when it's destroyed. As they try to assassinate my character, as they try to kill my name, it's already a martyr level event, which humans admire at a deep, primitive level. So from the jump, we're getting this idea.
Starting point is 00:09:41 First of all, he's trying to take the shine off Lavoie a little bit. Yeah. It'd be like, I'm the real martyr. Come on. Fuck that guy. Why don't you guys understand that for 20 years, I've been building myself up as a martyr that no one will ever martyr. And I'm going to become a force ghost. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Why don't you guys get this? Right, right, right. Absolutely. I think that that's kind of, I mean, it's indicative of a real mental disorder. Yeah. I think there's a narcissism in there. Oh, you think? A little bit of one.
Starting point is 00:10:09 But the way he's saying it isn't like his standard manic thing that he gets whenever he gets into these sort of hyper, narcissistic, bloviating sessions that he gets into. No, he believes this. This is 100% a real thing he believes. I think, and especially as what we're going to get into, I think this is him externalizing a little bit of stuff that he generally keeps inside. And one of them is that, don't you guys understand, I'm going to be the hero.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Right. When they take me down, I will be the hero. He's creating a stage for himself to be what he sees himself to be in his own mind. mind. That's fascinating, because that's a very interesting psychology. He wants to die for the cause, but like, hold on now. He's making up a cause. Not now. Not now. Right, right, right. No, no, no. I will. Hold on now, though. And when the time comes, I'm going to make sure I cheat it so I look like a victim.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Which definitely is in line with all of his philosophies and what have you. So in this next clip, Alex Jones gets into how he believes that the Bundy group has been infiltrated and there's feds and shit like that. And then says something that might be... The weird thing is I think he is right. He might be. I don't know. Like they all just got off. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:11:31 But the way he's saying it is like it's crawling with feds. Oh, okay. And he's also saying that all those people who were dressed up like Uncle Sam and all that shit, they were feds. Okay. Trying to make those people look like assholes. Yeah. Feds. Feds.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Feds. Feds sent in those dildos. Oh, yeah. But the cards against humanity guy, he did send in that giant thing. He's a fed. No, he's just a merry trickster. So the Bundy group has been infiltrated. Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And then he says, like I said, he says something at the middle to end of this clip that feels like code. Okay. The Bundys are not the operative. Okay. You can listen to them, take one look at them. We know where they came from. They're good people.
Starting point is 00:12:19 But they wouldn't have been the George Washington's leading the fight. They would have been the guys in the trenches. They are not generals. Take them out. We don't need them. What he's saying, I mean, we don't need them. You take one good look at them. You know where they come from.
Starting point is 00:12:39 They're good people. Right. They're white. Right. But then beyond that, they're not generals. They're still trash. Well, no. They're white trash.
Starting point is 00:12:46 But that's not even what he's saying. He's talking about, he's calling himself the general. Yeah, no, of course. Without having to say it. Oh, we all knew. By denigrating them, even though they're ostensibly being way more active in the same goal that Alex has. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's saying, no, no, no, they're too dumb.
Starting point is 00:13:03 They're, whatever. I mean, can you really disagree with him? Not fully. Nope. He does have a point. They are not generals. They are not generals. No.
Starting point is 00:13:15 So now, at this point, this is where we start... They aren't even in the military. No, certainly not. They were lying about that. No. Oh, yeah, that is true. Yeah, a lot of stolen valor. We're all Marines.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yeah. No, you're not. So at this point, Jordan, and this is pretty early in the episode, Alex Jones starts to take a pivot, away from talking about the Bundy specifically and starting to talk about his understanding of government. And Ted Bundy. No, nope, doesn't get into them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:46 His understanding of government, his understanding of history and this stuff, it's fucking wild stuff. Here's the first one where he talks about the intelligence community. There's different factions. There's at least seven factions we know of in the CIA. Three major factions in the NSA. Different administrations come in and try to create new factions or take over other ones. There's Army versus CIA. There's Navy versus Army.
Starting point is 00:14:12 That's a football game. So it's a game. It's a game. Marine Corps, stand alone. Right. There's defense intelligence. Everybody's cool with the Marine Corps. He's describing departments.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Everybody's cool with the Marine Corps. No, no, they're factions, Dan. They're factions that are always at war with each other. Let the man finish the clip. There's the big megabanks above it, trying to control and manipulate it all. Then there's international factions. It's not just, let's go have a war with the feds. Let's have it start here like the Alamo.
Starting point is 00:14:40 So that's what he's saying. It's like there's these intelligence factions. departments. Right. And then he expands it without being specific in any way or even what he's talking about. And then they're corporations. There's international factions. Hey, come on. Yeah. Yeah. The CIA is also overseas. Who knows? Could be anywhere. Now, that's, that's a little weird. Is it? Yeah. Because I, I would say for someone in Alex Jones's position, it behooves him to be more specific about what he's talking about. If there's seven factions in the CIA get come out with it. What? What? What are you talking about? What possible? Okay. Look, you're in the CIA. There's factions.
Starting point is 00:15:19 How could there be seven different factions? There aren't enough ideological differences. Probably not. In the CIA, what is it? Like, I want more BLTs in the lunchroom. Like, what kind of factions are we talking about? There's not even enough primary colors for them to all have different colored neckerchiefs. Ooh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:15:36 For identification purposes. If you see the damn green neckerchief people and you're one of the orange, fuck them. Don't go over there. No, no, no, no, no. Do not, do not set trip with the fucking factions of the CIA. They will fucking spy on you. Those guys are crazy. Exactly. We're not even into that shit. But we also know that there's only like 15% of them who do the killing. The rest of them are chicken necks.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Right, right, right. So you wouldn't have to worry about set tripping around the chicken necks. Well, but every faction is led by one of the guys who does the killing. It has to be. I mean, mathematically, if it's 20%, who cares. Anyway, I think everybody does. This is the most important news of the day. No, it's not. Maybe so far. Okay. And not the day, the show, because the day, ooh, boy.
Starting point is 00:16:20 But this next clip is profoundly fucked up. Put your mic down for this. Okay. And, oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy. You're about to get a history lesson. Courtesy of Emmerich Jones. There's, let's have it start here like the Alamo. I just put that there so it's clear that.
Starting point is 00:16:42 that there's no break in two of these clips. Long pause. You know that they planned with President Andrew Jackson in 1835 a year out what they did in Texas. You know they sent Colonel Travis, this is inside baseball, but it's leaked out here and there, but this is confirmed. Down to the Alamo to fight 10 to one odds to die. to create a chain reaction to give birth to Texas because they were hardcore folks. And they were Christians,
Starting point is 00:17:26 but they basically followed a Rosicrucian founding father, basic cult deal where they really wanted to found the new Atlantis. They really wanted to build a new civilization based on human empowerment. And they wanted to die in sacrifice. against tyranny. They don't really make people like that anymore much, do they? And they went and they basically planned it and they knew it. And then Travis told the men, you're all going to die, step across the line and join me in history.
Starting point is 00:18:01 And they stepped across just like the 300. Long pause. They planned with Andrew Jackson an event similar to that. They didn't know exactly how it would go down a year before. and then they found Travis who'd already won some battles and was a born leader to lead it. And he wrote on that letter to my family
Starting point is 00:18:31 when he left his son with the heir's family. My mom sighed. What? And said, take care of my little boy. And then he wrote the other letter and said, I'm not giving up victory or death. And they hope to get reinforcements, but they knew they weren't coming.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And they knew where they were going. And they knew that they were coming to draw Santa Ana into the south so they could get ready in the east with the armies with Sam Houston under the direct command of President Andrew Jackson in a covert action of the United States of America to take a third of Mexico. That was a sovereign country. That's how you plan things. That's how you win.
Starting point is 00:19:19 That's how you kick the British Empire's butt that nobody could stop. Real planning, real sacrifice, real long-term commitment. Not 10 guys in Camo and, you know, three of them are, I mean. He's implying there at the end, three of them are feds. Yeah. So, Jordan, I want to ask you a couple questions. The first of... Oh, I can't.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I don't have any questions for what that. That was clearly self-explanatory. Everything about that makes perfect sense. Do you know anything about Colonel Travis, Colonel William Travis? I don't, but I'm of the opinion that. anybody who winds up overrun by thousands of Mexican soldiers because he's bad at position probably didn't do so well. Well, it's interesting that like Alex is presenting this as like this thing that like a pincor move by Sam Houston and what have you.
Starting point is 00:20:12 No. Sam Houston said, hey, blow up the alamo and get out of San Antonio. That was his order that was ignored. Planned. Plan ignoring. Andrew Jackson. Right. Hickory.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Not only that, Andrew Jackson planned to tell Houston to say that to Travis. So Travis would be like, fuck you and do what he did. So covert action, action. At this point. Three factions of the CIA plan. Seven of them. Yeah, but three of the four of them didn't even know. No, four were redshirted in the action.
Starting point is 00:20:48 So Jordan, now I think is the most appropriate time ever to talk a little bit about Colonel William Travis. I've never heard that sentence before, so clearly it must be true. I'm going to give you a bit of a history lesson that researching tickled the shit out of me today. I initially thought there's no way I'm going to be able to get this episode together in time to do it, but I did. And this is a fun story. So William Travis was born in 1809 in South Carolina. He was born in South Carolina. We're off to a bad start.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And then after the War of 1812, his parents moved to Conica County, in Alabama, like a newly, uh, there's a lot of, a lot of frontiersmanship. Let's go somewhere worse. Right. Uh, his uncle Alexander founded a school, uh, in Sparta, Alabama, which was a part of Conica County. And so William got the chance to attend it. And he was able to get an education.
Starting point is 00:21:42 He'd go on to be a school teacher, uh, teacher's assistant at a different school where he taught for less than a year because he got the hots for one of his 16 year old students. Not good. And they started fucking. Yeah. So they ended up getting married. This is Alabama.
Starting point is 00:21:57 They ended up getting married when she was 16, likely because he got her pregnant. Naturally. And some time frame records show that she probably gave birth before they were married. Or at very least, she was pregnant before the marriage. Right. And back then, that was not good. Shotgun wedding. That was not done.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Shotgun wedding. So at that point, he decided, I'm not going to teach anymore. And so he and this, his wife moved, and he just started. started a move to place called the Clairbon. Clairbarn. Clairbarn. That's a rough name. So he decided he was going to start studying law.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Because back then, that was really easy. True. They had four. As he was studying law, he also started a newspaper called the Clay Barn Harold, which did okay for a little while. Made a little bit of coin. But then it started to not make as much money. And he had like, you know, I got to support my family.
Starting point is 00:22:54 family. I have no idea. I'm not making enough from this paper. And the stress of running the paper got so bad to him that he kept fucking up the paper. He would print advertisements upside down. I'd never learn to read. You'd have ads going way past their expiration date in the paper. And it just was a complete disaster. And in an event that would go on to mirror his future. This is a sentence that I wrote that I'm thrilled with. In an event that would be, mirror his future at the Alamo. He would ask for help with the paper, but reinforcements were not coming. Oh, get out. But he did. Get out. He kept trying to get financial support and no one was helping him out. And so he was just in a terrible place. In 1829, he passed his law exam, right? So at that point, he borrows $55 and $37 to order, to spend $10.5 million in today's money. Totally. To start a law office. He also borrows $90 to cover his expenses with, the Harold, right? Right. Unfortunately, he wasn't getting any clients for his law firm because no one needed a lawyer. It was a small fucking town. It was a small fucking area. And they already had a lawyer. Where would we even go to trial? There ain't judges here. They already had a
Starting point is 00:24:18 lawyer who was the guy who mentored him. Yeah. And so like, we don't need another one. We already got this guy. And so he's just in a disastrous position where he has spent all this money. He's in debt. And now he can't even make money doing law because no one cares. Right. So he's getting, he's getting nothing. He's just getting deeper and deeper into debt. And so he decides to buy a couple slaves in order to- Boy, that just, it could solve a lot of problems back then, apparently.
Starting point is 00:24:43 He buys two slaves in order to try and help out, right? I don't. What? But the irony of this is that feeding his slaves ended up pushing him deeper into debt. So- I mean, silver lining. Silver lining. It's just a triangle.
Starting point is 00:24:58 of like everybody. Everybody is tragedy. The wife is clearly not happy. She's, you know, living with this guy. Right. Whoever's buying ads in his paper isn't happy. They're printed upside down. Not good.
Starting point is 00:25:09 This guy, William Travis, is not fucking having a great time. And of course, his slaves are not having a great time. His only person, yeah. He jumped out on his mentor and he tried to start a competing business. And so his mentor's pissed too. And now it's interesting that you bring that up because he ended up having to stop practicing law because he wasn't making any money. And he got to cease and desist. Well, by the time that he ended up...
Starting point is 00:25:32 He signed a non-compete, which he realized immediately after he left was a very bad idea. By the time that he stopped practicing law, he had participated in six cases and he had made $4. All right. All right. His debt at the time was $834. Nice. Which is a lot back then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:52 So the people he owed money to sued him. Of course. And one of the people was his mentor, the lawyer. the lawyer that he studied under it. And in court, he tried to argue that his case should be dismissed because of infancy. But he was a bad lawyer. He'd only ever tried four cases before. So he didn't do well.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah. He said that because he was so young, it should be thrown out of court. That makes sense. And the court and all... That's like saying, I'm too pretty. Yeah, somewhat. Everybody in attendance. Everybody in the court just started laughing at it.
Starting point is 00:26:24 it's recorded as a, like, a historical humiliation in court. Just everybody like, ha ha ha, ha. You still owe me money, you little baby. That shit. So at that point, the court clerk issued an order for his arrest on March 31st, 1831. Right. So at this point, William. He hears about the Alamo.
Starting point is 00:26:50 More or less. And he starts a little plan with Andrew Jackson. Nope. Nope. Nope. He doesn't? Nope. I feel like we're going to get there.
Starting point is 00:26:57 He hears about Texas, which is at that point a state in the Mexican Republic. Right. Let's go somewhere worse. So he heard there's a lot of land for speculation and that a lot of people out there needed lawyers. And so he's like, sure. He's like, oh, fuck yeah. Do you speak Spanish? Fuck!
Starting point is 00:27:16 And the other thing is he has an order for his arrest. So he's got to get out of Alabama. Yeah. But he'll figure that one out. He's a lawyer. So at this point, he leaves his wife, who is now pregnant with his second child. Of course. And runs off to Texas fleeing arrest.
Starting point is 00:27:32 This is dodging arrest. The dumbest dude. Yeah. It's rough. This is spectacular. So he gets to Texas and he sets up a law practice in a city called Anhawak. I'm not sure if that's the correct pronunciation or whatever. But at that point, he sets up a law practice.
Starting point is 00:27:48 He starts a militia. And they start agitating against the sovereign men. Mexican authorities. Why? Why start a militia? You know what? I'll give it to this guy. Because they're white people around a lot of Mexicans. Always shooting for the stars. Absolutely. Always shooting for the stars.
Starting point is 00:28:05 So through his actions and through his militia behaviors, he ends up getting arrested at one point. And he ends up also being conscribed as a soldier in order to raise a company of men to support the situation in San Antonio, which was a situation that would end up being the Alamo. Right. Right. Travis considered, this is a quote here from an article on it, Travis considered disobeying his orders, writing to Henry Smith, then the governor. Yeah. I am willing, nay, anxious to go to defense of Bexar, but, sir, I'm unwilling to risk my reputation by going off into... I can't run this guy's reputation.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I can't, I'm unwilling to risk my reputation by going off into the enemy's country with such little means, so few men and with them so badly equipped. This is from an article in Texas Monthly. Quote, Travis had sulked in camp waiting for Smith's reply, which never came. Eventually he had no choice but to trudge on to San Antonio. He had no military experience, was until recently an unsuccessful lawyer and was now the lieutenant colonel in the Texas cavalry. It's so fucked up. That is, of course Alex Jones's family knows him. That's the same, that's the same shit.
Starting point is 00:29:18 That's Alex saying like, hey, I am going to be a hero. You look, I will go down to San Antonio. I will be your hero. You're getting ahead of it a little bit. But listen. You're getting the point, but you're a little ahead of it. Not yet. Not right now.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Once we get to the end of this, the picture of proto Alex Jones will be complete. Alex Jones has very clearly based a lot of his personality on William Travis. There is no doubt about that. That makes sense. From being a completely see-through, bumbling, self-motivated. prick. Right. So at this point, he is accidentally a lieutenant colonel in the Texas Calvary, right? Who does not become one? So Travis and James Bowie are the two men who are supposed to be in charge of the companies that are at the Alamo. One in charge of soldiers, one in charge of
Starting point is 00:30:08 volunteers. And the other in charge of knives. Sure. Sure. Yep. But unfortunately, pretty quickly, Bowie gets sick. And for all intents and purposes, Travis, he ends up being in charge of all of the people at the Alamo. He's in charge of the entire force. Hilarious. So at the end of this, Travis ends up dying in what is a hopeless war. Because he did only have like a hundred and something people there and, you know, Santa Ana had a giant force. But just 10 days before he died, he sent out the following letter. I'm just going to read you the letter that he wrote.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Help! You're not far off. There are a number of letters that I've read of his also that predate this letter by like the weeks, a couple weeks before it all goes down. Help? No, they're all just like... Help. They're all just like, we need more people, send more armies. And then like three days later, another letter, like, hey, it's rude for me to ask twice.
Starting point is 00:31:09 That sort of shit. They're asking for armies like crazy. I'll fucking sue you guys. Yeah. I will fucking sue you. You know I'm a lawyer. I'm going to put out a full page ad in the... Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:31:21 So by this point... It's upside down. 10 days before the end of everything, he ends up sending out... this letter, and it's at this point that he probably has to realize shit is not going to work out. Right. And so he writes this letter. Fellow citizens and compatriots, I am besieged by a thousand or more of the Mexicans
Starting point is 00:31:36 under Santa Ana. I have sustained a continual bombardment and cannonade for 24 hours and have not lost a man. The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion. Otherwise, the garrison is to be put to the sword if the ford is taken. I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, and our flag still waves proudly from the walls. I shall never retreat or surrender. Bad move.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Then I call on you in the name of liberty of patriotism and everything dear to the American character to come to our aid with all dispatch. The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily and will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible and die like a soldier who never forgets what is due in his own honor and that of his country. And then in all caps, victory or death, William Barrett Travis. And so this letter goes out. I would not want to be in his company. this letter goes out and people get really fired up about it and that's one of the big reasons why people have this remember the album is because of the like pretty well-written letter there so this fucking idiot this bumbling moron this mr mgoo walking around through life screwing up everything yeah and be a dick to his family letter and becomes a legend well now get this so this is also from that texas a monthly article
Starting point is 00:32:54 about him. They got his diary, and they were reading over it. And there's one passage in it where he's setting out. This is like two years before he dies. And he's setting out. I made love to my first man today. Who? You are so close. You are shockingly close. Of course. So there's a passage in his diary where he says, like, I was setting off for some city. And it's the only time, like, you know, there's so many bogs and shit, I couldn't get through. It's the only time that I, didn't follow through with my plan or whatever. It's along those lines. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And so here's, I'm going to read to you from this Texas Monthly article that should bring everything into focus. Okay. Otherwise, other than that thing, that short anecdote, the diary is simply a daily log of his law practice and personal expenses, a document by an obsessive counter. He lists his shirts and socks, and he lists his sexual adventures. Someone named Susanna is recorded as his 59th conquest. He was then 24. Think about that in terms of Alex and his 150 women before he was 16 claims. Are we going to believe this asshole?
Starting point is 00:34:01 I don't know. I don't buy it. I don't know. I don't even think he had that many shirts. Let's start with that lie. So that brief underlying passage, the one about not turning back, is the only moment of personal assessment in the entire document. There is in those words, Travis' unstated reproach of himself for letting nature dominate his intentions. He was a vain, moody man, idealistic and romantic.
Starting point is 00:34:25 He worked hard by day, and at night he gambled or consorted with prostitutes, or sat alone reading Sir Walter Scott. He was brainy and ambitious and filled with passionate energy. He spent all his short life seeking out a stage upon which to play out his self-appointed destiny. The only thing he understood about himself was that he would not turn back. He wanted to be a hero and a patriot, and he became a hero in a patriot. He wrote his famous letter from the Alamo, proclaiming his new role. and the world listened.
Starting point is 00:34:53 He had with a few strokes of a pen made his dreams real. He had invented himself and invented Texas as well. That's Alex Jones. That's 100% Alex Jones. Why is it that the dumb run? Isn't that amazing? Why? How?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Isn't that amazing? How does this asshole bumble up to legend? Well, because of that great letter. He wrote a great letter and that was fucking it. The stakes. God damn it. The stakes were much lower back then. Well, clearly.
Starting point is 00:35:24 But then at the same time, because of this weird, sort of like the way we deal with military and stuff, I mean, even the Eastern cultures do too. Like, this bravery in the face of death makes a legend out of a man and that sort of thing. No, no, no. I get it. I get it. But, I mean, this assessment rings so fucking true.
Starting point is 00:35:40 The idea that all his life, he was seeking out a stage on which to play out his self-appointed destiny. Vane. Moody. That's stupid. That's Alex Jones's entire broadcast career. It goes back to the first clip where he's like, I'm building myself up as a martyr. He has his self-appointed destiny that he is forcing his audience to play out with him.
Starting point is 00:36:00 The only consolation we have from all of this is the knowledge that there's no way Alex could write a good letter. That's true. That's done. We don't have to worry about him becoming a legend because his words will stay on. It would just be words as shapes. Yeah, yeah. No, no. I'm sure if William Travis had a broad.
Starting point is 00:36:21 broadcast show and you just actually got to listen to the dumb shit he says, he would not have become a legend. No, he'd come in drunk. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Talk about banging prostitutes and stuff. I mean, it's just fascinating to me. When I started to look into his history, I was like, this unlocks so much about Alex.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And the fact that nowhere in the historical record is there any indication that this was a year-long plan of some Rosicrucian religious ceremony where they sacrificed themselves to create a New Atlantis. That stuff is all bullshit. That's all conspiracy bullshit that Alex has taken from unreputable sources and turned into part of his cosmology. Where would you get that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Whose idea was that? We're actually going to find out, I think, in a later clip. But yeah, let's just jump back into it because this next clip is even more fucked up. If you thought that was fucked up. How? Could it not be? This one's real fucked up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:19 You see, this is all... different religious orders, folks, battling each other over what controls America. And you've got the Dark Side Luciferian 1776 copycat group that ran the French Revolution, Adam Weisshop, trying to create a false Illuminati or the light, liberty, God, and overtake it. And George Washington wrote about this in at least nine different letters before he, He died, probably poisoned. We know they bled him to death. Because he was getting ready to lead a movement in the Masonic order to kick the devil-worshipping Illuminati out of it that was trying to take it over.
Starting point is 00:38:09 I mean, you want to know the big secrets, folks, this is it. And it's there in history. Where? And given down through lore. Boom. Lour. Right there. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Right. Right. Right. It's given down in lore. Alex is basically believing oral tradition as literal history. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He might as well believe everything that happened in the Iliad really happened. I'm sure he does.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Everything in the Odyssey really happened. I imagine he does. Anything that the Burt Soleritzis of the Basque country say and they tell down from history, it's, that's fucked up. Yeah. And that should give everybody some sort of understanding of what he takes as a sort. a source. If I understand him correctly, he just said that Washington, President George Washington
Starting point is 00:39:00 was poisoned. Was poisoned to death, or at least bled to death by a Luciferian Illuminati squad trying to recreate the light, the false light, in order to overtake the real light. With Adam Wisehop. And the reason that they had to kill Washington was because Washington was leading the good Illuminati? And he was going to expose it to get rid of the Satanists within the... Within the good Illuminati.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah. So we've got three factions of Illuminati is what he's describing right there. Well, there's seven. No, that's the CIA. It was a simpler time. They didn't even, they couldn't even count to seven back then. No, no, certainly not. They could only count to 1776.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So if you get down to it, when George Washington died, he was 67 years old after being a fucking soldier in the 1700s. That's an absurd age to live to. And he had to live through so much shit. There's no way his health was good. There's no way he had no business being alive at 67, quite frankly. So on the afternoon of December 13th, 1799, after spending most of the day in the frigid December rain and snow, supervising activities on his estate. He was, you know, at this point, one of the things you should know about George Washington.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Hey, slaves, they're going to love me like this Travis motherfucker. So he was super, Washington was super big on punctuality and never showed up late for dinner. And because he was out in the rain and snow directing activities, he showed up for dinner and he didn't have time to change his clothes. So he sat through dinner in his wet clothes from the day. Also, his wife Martha had just gotten over a really bad cold. So these are the circumstances surrounding his death. On that day, he began to complain about a cough and runny nose. And by two in the morning of that night, he'd developed chest pain.
Starting point is 00:40:48 and shortness of breath. Yeah. So they call for James Crake, Dr. James Crake, who was his doctor of 40 years. That doesn't seem like some sort of infiltrator. That's not a ringing endorsement either. Not necessarily. If you're a doctor starting in, what, 1766? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Not a good time to get your learning. At the same time, George Rollins, who was the overseer of the state, the estate came to his bedside. As morning came, Washington had a pronounced fever. and his breathing had gotten really bad. So at 7.30 in the morning, George Rollins removed 12 to 14 ounces of blood at Washington's request. I know. Bleed him.
Starting point is 00:41:29 That's what they did back then. Yeah, no, no, I know. The humorous and stuff? Yeah, yeah, of course. So Washington requested that. And then afterwards, he's like, y'all should take some more of my blood. He asked them to take more. And so throughout the morning, they ended up taking more blood from him.
Starting point is 00:41:44 They tried to give him an enema. The beginning of adrenaline chrome. They tried all sorts of things. They tried to give him sage tea laced with vinegar to gargle. That didn't work. They tried to put some stuff in there to make it worse because then it would be like, oh, that, that friction or whatever, whatever blisters we create will solve the other blisters. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Because medicine was terrible back then. So throughout the day, through the bleeding, weirdly, he did end up regaining some of his strength. But his afternoon came, he knew he wasn't going to make it. And he was quoted as saying, soon enough, He was struggling for error, and he told Dr. Craig, doctor, I die hard, but I'm not afraid to go. I believe from my first attack that I should not survive it. My breath cannot last long. Ever the gentleman, even in extremes, the general made a point of thanking all three doctors for their help.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Washington died at 10.20 p.m. I mean, I guess, I guess they make it. There's like a certain bit of sense that they made with those, like, oh, well, shit's coming out of them. So maybe we should just try and get the shit. shit out of him, you know? Let's preempt the shit coming out. Let's get rid of all of his blood. It's super fucked up because they ended up taking out 80 ounces of his blood.
Starting point is 00:42:57 That's a lot. Which is, which is, it's, it's not too amazing to me that Washington survived as long as he did. Because that was really his only accomplishment. Like, he was a bad general. He wasn't good at tactics. He wasn't good at strategy. But he
Starting point is 00:43:12 looked fucking amazing on a horse. And he should have died like 30 times and he never did. Yeah. Like his horse got shot and it fell on him. He was like, hey, guess what I'm fine? Like, he's got bullet holes in his shirt and it's like, oh, weird. It hit off my watch. Like, he was that guy.
Starting point is 00:43:28 He just would not die. People still debate what it was that killed him. Probably the blood loss. I think it's probably more the underlying cause of like pneumonia or something like that. But be that as it may, I'm being told in the chat, I'd forgotten about this. But apparently there's a dollop all about his death. So let's not get too much more into it. Other than to say he wasn't poisoned by the Illuminati.
Starting point is 00:43:48 He was not poisoned by the Illuminati. So. Or? Alex brings up the Illuminati. He had written some letters about it. And that this is indication of that they killed him. And so I looked into that. Dearest Martha, the Illuminati are stealing my blood.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Could you help me out with this? I know you just recovered from a cold. But be ever so kind as to stop the Illuminati from bleeding me. Hey, you had a cold. I get it. I get it. I'm getting bled by the Illuminati. Come on. Give me one. Give me one help. So this German guy named G.W. Snyder sent Washington a letter on August 22, 1798.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I will read the relevant portion of this letter to you. It was sometimes since that a book fell into my hands entitled Proof of a Conspiracy by John Robeson, which gives a full account of the Society of Freemasons that distinguishes itself by the name of Illuminati, whose plan is to overturn all government and all religion, even natural, and who endeavor to eradicate every idea of a supreme being and distinguish man from beast by his shape only. A thought suggested itself to me that some of the lodges in the United States might have caught the infection and might cooperate with the Illuminati or the Jacabine Club in France. Fosha is mentioned by Robison as a zealous member, and who can doubt of Gannette and Adet a day probably. have not those their confidence in this confidants in this country they use the same expressions and are generally men of no religion upon serious reflection i was led to think that it might be within your power to prevent the horrid plan from corrupting the brethren of the english lodge over which you preside and that's why he was bled to death by the illuminati so george washington replied it seems like i kind of the aluminati he's describing i think they're right i think they're dead on well adam weisshop And that whole...
Starting point is 00:45:39 I'm glad they killed Washington. The Bavarian Illuminati existed from 1776 to 1785. Right. Was disbanded. But everybody is like, oh, no, they secretly weren't disbanded. Ugh. Oh, boy. All this nonsense.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Knights Templar. And mostly all they seemed to be interested in was, like, rationality over superstition. Yeah, exactly. But be that as it may, every other account of all this stuff is wildly a historical. Okay, okay. But George Washington did reply to his letter. Uh-huh. On September 25th, 1798, he wrote back.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Dearest Martha. Please. The Illuminati are stealing my blood. Please. Stop the Illuminati from sending me letters that take my blood magically. So he writes, I have heard much of the nefarious and dangerous plan and doctrines of the Illuminati, but never saw the book until you were pleased to send it to me.
Starting point is 00:46:28 The same causes which have prevented my acknowledging the receipt of your letter have prevented my reading the book hitherto, namely the multiplicity of matters which pressed upon me before, and debilitated state in which I was left after. A severe fever had been removed. And the book was dumped. So he also had a terrible fever a year before he died. Yeah. Which is, man, who knows? And which allows me to add a little more now than thanks for your kind wishes and favorable sentiments.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Except to correct an error you have run into of my presiding over the English lodges of this country. The fact is, I preside over none, nor have I ever been in one more than one. or twice within the last 30 years. I believe notwithstanding that none of the lodges in this country are contaminated with the principles ascribed to the Society of the Illuminati. With respect, I am yours, your humble servant, George Washington. So from that we can conclude, George Washington ran the Illuminati. He did not. He denied it.
Starting point is 00:47:28 He denied it. Clearly that means that he was running it. You're using Alex logic, and I don't appreciate it. It's clearly what means. So he wasn't killed by the Illuminati and the letters that he's. He was the Illuminati. The letters that he wrote regarding the Illuminati, what he says there is, I have heard of this stuff, which I could say, too. That's not confirmation that the Illuminati fucking exists in any meaningful way, especially not in 1798, 1799.
Starting point is 00:47:51 You're denied it right now. Yes, I am. In as much as these fucking Dilweeds present it. Anyway, the clip isn't over. Uh-huh. But that is important that we now have. We got Washington on record as saying, fucking fuck the Illuminati. It's more like, come on.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Yeah. Come on, man. Like, first of all, I'm not ahead of any lodge. No. I haven't even been to any really ever. Guys, not a Mason. And look, they're not. Calm down.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Come up. It's more or less a letter that says, calm down. How do you get the president to write you a letter saying, shut up about the Illuminati? I think he was sending a lot of letters back then. From one of the other letters that he wrote back to the guy, he's like, it takes up a lot of my times writing back to people. That's true. didn't have TV back then, so might as well write letters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Through the lore of places like the lone star state. So again, he's just reiterating that he gets all his information from lore, lore, lore, not facts. No. To defend the republic till the end, the state meant to be a redoubt in the future if the enemy was able to take over the rest of the country. These covert wars have been going on since before this country was founded. When did they start? And these are the type of secrets you learn if you're in the right lodge and a 33rd degree mason. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:23 It's not the secrets of Solomon's temple. He was dead back then. So I'm going to get into the big news that this Bundy tragedy distracts from. Spoiler alert, it's Benghazi. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Nope. Makes perfect sense. Um. So. So lore. Lour. The podcast by What's His Face? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:56 The lone star state is meant to be a redoubt. Yep. In case these evil forces take over the rest of the country. Right. Which sounds to me like lore. It also sounds to me like the grandiosity of people who are nationalistic about their state, which Texas certainly is. Never heard that before. No.
Starting point is 00:50:16 But I mean, you get similar variations of it from people in New York, too. like they have real overblown senses of themselves just by virtue of being born in or living in New York. I love his, I love his long pauses because it's clear that he's like, he's grabbing it whatever. No, bullshit. 33 degree basis. Sure. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:50:36 I disagree with you. I disagree with you. Okay. I think that what happened there is that he was like, oh no. Ratcheting up dramatic tension? No, no. He was like, oh, no. People are going to think I just admitted to being a Mason.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I think that's what happened. Because he's like, that's the lower you hear when you're in the right lodges. And a 33rd degree. Whoops. I don't necessarily. I'm not here to say that Alex Jones is a fucking. He's in the Illuminati. But I think that I think that the pauses were his brain being like, I know how my audience thinks.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Damn it. Damn it. This is going to be a blog post. So it's going to try to break it to my house. Somebody's going to write a goddamn letter to George Washington about this. Dearest Martha, please go bleed Alex Jones. He's looking puffy today. Probably just hungover. So we've now gotten through, like, serious problems with his ideas about history that he himself has ascribed to lore, which is a big problem.
Starting point is 00:51:38 He's read all their books, but you know what's more important? Lour. So at this point in the show, now Alex Jones sort of gets back into a normal show. Right. And he gets to talking about some headlines. Until he drops that George Washington was a werewolf? He also was a werewolf. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:55 We do know that. All right, all right. But he gets back into a normal show with normal-ish headlines. But you have to experience them a little bit differently after hearing those two clips. I believe, listen to this and see if you get the point I'm trying to make. Austrian record holding athlete lashes out of idiotic refugee policies. It's not idiotic. Bringing in martial law with it.
Starting point is 00:52:18 See, people keep saying they're idiotic. No, they run things. The globalists are totally evil. You've got to admit that they're scientific. They've dominated us. They're on top of us, not, oh, they're crazy. Because it makes you feel better about it. That's the first step going on then.
Starting point is 00:52:32 This is crazy. Yeah, crazy like a fox. You've got to get inside the enemy's mind or they're going to beat you every time. 60% of refugees heading to Europe or economic migrants top EU official. Not true. Yeah, they want free goodies and, you know, women. I mean, their country, women are just absolute property, so why not? By the way, they've got the liberal German women out giving the Arab men roses and just saying,
Starting point is 00:52:55 hey, baby, I'm here. I'm sorry for our misogyn. I'm sorry for our xenophobia against your horrible stone age, you know, religion of making women wear beaky pursuits and sexually mutilating and killing a woman of a man rapes her. And so, of course, the sickening anti-female, anti-family devil. feminist love it because they hate women. They want you to abort your children. They want you without a good man. They want you to hate your sons.
Starting point is 00:53:24 If you do have them, they want to, they're just eugenicists, high priestesses. So, of course, they go to the Islamists, you know, caliphate slavers and just hit their knees because they love cancer. They love death. They love failure. They hate the West. They hate the New Atlantis. They want to blow it up. Absolutely overrun by demons, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:53:52 So, I don't think it's possible to not hear those words through new ears. And say they're coming for Texas. Well, Texas is the redoubt. But, you know, what he's, he conceives of this as centuries-long fights between religious factions. Yeah. This is insanity. Like this, to the point where he misrepresents literally every piece of history that he tries to ascribe to anything. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:28 It kind of feels like he still thinks we're fighting in the Crusades. I think he does. Yeah. I mean, it feels like he goes back that far as like the Knights Templar were actually my great, great, great, great, great grandfathers. And then they fuck it, fucked until we got Travis. Travis knew my family. I'm Confederate royalty. Oh, also.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I'm a Knight Tempire. I did find that letter he references. Like, if Alex is related to the Aeer's, then that is true. But I don't know if he's related to that family at all through his mom's side. I have no idea. But that letter does exist where... Confederate royalty. Colonel Travis does say, take care of my boy.
Starting point is 00:55:07 But even in that letter, he says, I might make it. You know, I could make it. But like the thing is this friction that he sees and this idea that we're being overrun with these false immigrants and it's some sort of a plan to destroy the new Atlantis, that's a piece of this bigger stuff. And that bigger stuff is straight up like fucking lore. It's straight up fan fiction that people have written about history to try and explain some very difficult things throughout history. It's a convenient excuse for why things have happened. Additionally, it's a convenient excuse if you're trying to scapegoat Jews repeatedly throughout history. Those sorts of things, or even take Jews out of it, your political opponents.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Right. Like, those sorts of easy scapegoat tricks are what you see historically throughout the history of the Illuminati lore. And Alex believes all of it. He's making it clear he believes all of it. and he believes that this like that's that's what he thinks like the deep state stuff is i'm like i'm so not surprised he loves trump now like if i'd heard that clip right much earlier i think that i could have pieced a little bit together uh in terms of like is trump an illuminati guy i know he's a i know he's an anti-semi but i didn't know if he was an illuminati guy i have
Starting point is 00:56:38 no idea i think he's too savvy to say something like that in public right right right that That unpacking would be much worse than the shithole countries comment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the... He would pay more than $130,000 to keep that quiet. In the same way that Alex Jones sees Colonel William Travis in himself and has created his own mythology mirroring Colonel Travis's, I think he sees Trump in there, too. Because the way he portrays Trump as being up against it, nothing but enemies. around he's stuck he's he's he's he's creating the alamo around trump right but at the same time
Starting point is 00:57:21 it's just more i mean you could you could say that but at the i think it's probably more just a situation where it's like the more enemies trump accrues the more he likes trump like he just has to double down to some extent every enemy only makes him like trump more simply because that puts him back in the outsider position that we know he loves he likes it. love so much. Like if a lot of people love Trump. Or the person who knows he's up against it and has no chance of coming out alive like he believes Colonel Travis was.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Right. And still goes and marches to his duty. When in reality, if you look at the history, Colonel Travis is like, I don't want to do this. Right. And I guess he says. So that is a lot like Trump then. Yeah. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Trump just kept bumbling upwards until he got to be president. And you look at the history of the debts that Colonel Travis has. Yeah. Exactly. And even more closely. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So anyway, at this point, Alex goes through some headlines and he has a shit prediction that we can look at scoffingly.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Although we know that Trump wouldn't write a letter saying, take care of my boy. He would write a letter saying, like, wait, I have kids? Yeah, exactly. Hold on. Hillary Clinton drops below 50% nationally. Now Obama is having Bernie Sanders to the White House signaling that they may just not use Biden. They may use Sanders. they may be offering him a VP slot with Biden.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Sure. Wait for it. Wait for it. That's in the cards. Or Elizabeth Warren and Biden. Joe Biden. Quincyneista complains to Twitter that co-founder that Hillary mocking hashtag, he is pure misogyny.
Starting point is 00:59:02 See, criticizing the Lord and Savior is hating women. It was Peter Dow. I don't really care. No. Criticizing Obama. Criticizing blacks. We'll have to sit here and explain to, women, if she gets liked it, we're not against you.
Starting point is 00:59:14 We're not against you. We're not against you. The CIA, ran Hillary and Ms. Magazine. We just, we just want to stop her. She's a tyrant. Shut up. The women are wedding. You'll never stop us. It's like Charlton Heston at the end of Omega Man. I have the cure. I want to free you. Shut up. They throw a spear into him. Shut up. We want to be like this. There's chemicals in the water. We want them. You don't get the metaphor of the Omega Man. No, and at that point after he does that impression, long-ass pause, real long pause.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Does not understand. I'm more frustrated about the Omega Man than I am about anything else that we've said so far tonight. Well, I mean, if you look at what he's saying in the metaphor that he's making, he's like, I mean, first of all, it's the only way he understands the world is through movies. So there's that. But then even beyond that, what he's saying is really, really insulting to women. Like, oh, yeah, yeah. Like, just the, take away the fucking idea of any hashtag. anyone's complaints about it.
Starting point is 01:00:11 But just the idea that they're like, women are so stupid. They just love her because she's a woman and scream at me because I have the answer. Women are always going to win. In his Omega Man metaphor, I have the answer is women shut up. Right. And they won't listen. They won't listen. I have the answer and it's stay in your place.
Starting point is 01:00:31 But that's the problem that I have with his analysis of the Omega Man is that the point of the Omega Man was, he's the monster. Right. Not the zombies. It's him. He's the murderer. He's the killer of these people. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:46 So in that sense, I guess Alex does have the metaphor right. Just in the wrong way. As it happens, because Alex is the murderer. So weirdly every now and again, he is right. Unintentionally.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Yeah. Maybe that's a good example of that. I have the answer because I'm the monster. Oh, somebody should have explained that movie to me. Shit. I need to stop drinking. Nike Will before the movies.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I only like the Vincent Price version. I like the Will Smith version. So in this next clip, Rambo Joe Biggs, Pizza Gate Joe Biggs, pre-Pizagate Joe Biggs, pre-Pizagate. Right, right, right. Prezagate. Yeah, Prezagate Biggs comes into studio because they need to talk about the Bundy situation. And Biggs had been at the compound.
Starting point is 01:01:31 He had been to... Really? Yeah, he made a trip to the wildlife preserve. Of course he did. And to... Why am I surprised? at that. And as I understand to Bunkerville, too, the original compound. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so Joe Biggs and Alex have a very interesting conversation. Did you know they're serving
Starting point is 01:01:47 pizza at that fucking bird reserve? I swear to God, we got to investigate this shit. So, he's really only had one story. Everywhere he goes, it's pizza. You got to look at the menus. You got to look at the pizza. The menus at that wildlife preserve. I just like getting paid to eat pizza. Everyone's got to look into it for themselves. So in this, in this clip, Alex Jones says something preposterous about the Bundys. So right off the bat, you could kind of tell that they were ready to demonize this, use this as maybe to set an example for what the government wanted to do to people like this, to so-called right-wingers who were going to go up and make a stand against the government
Starting point is 01:02:22 because they did get beat back in Nevada when that happened with the standoff on the Bundy Ranch. And we can roll some of that B-roll in the background. It's historic feds surrender, armed feds surrendered to citizens. they were threatening to shoot David Knight at the front of it with the camera. And they were in the wrong. That would have been Lexington or Concord, shot hurt around the world. If they would have mowed down people with their guns, not up,
Starting point is 01:02:46 but guns down, on horseback with American flags, that would have kicked off a revolution, and we might win that one. But if a revolution kicks off in the wrong way, and we shoot first, that gives the enemy home field advantage and the towing costs to be receiving the kickoff. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:03:02 So they could have... I am willing to die for the revolution. That's David Knight. Exactly. On the scene. That's what he was, yeah. They pointed a gun at David Knight. If they had killed David Knight,
Starting point is 01:03:15 my man. A whole world would have gone up in flames. My man. They could have won that revolution. Well, yeah, but we all knew that. If they killed David Knight, the Hicks win the revolution. Everybody knows this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:31 This is just, this is just chess. Over monopoly over risk. Yeah, exactly. It's clear. It makes perfect sense. So now here is where we get into what I would describe is, I don't, we're recording this on Martin Luther King Day. So this clip makes me uncomfortable. Great. But.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Joe Biggs. That's why I'm so glad we didn't do today's episode. I don't know if I can handle hearing more white people compare white people to. Martin Luther King, Jr. And that... I think I'm out. I think I'm out on that. I agree.
Starting point is 01:04:11 But... I will say that Amon Bundy was the Martin Luther King Jr. of the Mormons. In this next clip, they don't bring up Martin Luther King, but this is so fucking dog whistle racist.
Starting point is 01:04:23 It makes me... It hurts my ears, let's say. Like I said, I've been a big supporter. I've even spoke to... To Amon Mundy's mother before. and things like that and had conversations with them. I do believe that they have pure intentions that deep down inside,
Starting point is 01:04:42 they don't really have any ill intention whatsoever, that what they were doing, they were truly trying to make another stand. And I just, like I said, I thought this was just not at the right place. But then you have that left again coming out, which I don't get saying white terror. You know, you have all these people on Twitter coming out last night saying,
Starting point is 01:04:59 oh, great, you know, these terrorists, these white terrorists are arrested, call them terrorists. That's what they should be. Well, sorry. You know, and they're all the black lives matters people. Well, I mean, they won a race war, and they paint everything as racial, and they also sit there and want a police state in America, even though they claim they're criticizing it.
Starting point is 01:05:19 They're just disconnected, dumb, stupid people. I mean, really the end of the day what happened, Martha and Tom didn't get to go into the wildlife refuge and work a few days a week. I mean, there's probably hardly anybody out there really manning that place. It's in the middle of nowhere. Meanwhile, they quote-unquote break into this federal facility. And what do I see them doing when I'm down there? Sweeping, cleaning off the sidewalks, taking care of the property, the land, making sure it's fine.
Starting point is 01:05:44 I didn't see anyone in Black Lives Matter and Ferguson break into a store and start doing shopkeep work and rearranging stuff. No, they were taking stuff and running out and throwing a Molotov cocktails. So that is awful. That is awful for a number of reasons. first of all Alex So if I understand correctly his reasoning If I steal your TV But when you see me with it
Starting point is 01:06:09 I'm dusting it off Well A thief No no no no I'm taking care of it No or if I Frankly it's more mine now than it is yours If I have a bunch of guns and I occupy your home And I put dust off your TV
Starting point is 01:06:21 Right right he's cleaning I'm cleaning it up I put salt on your sidewalk It's snowy out there guys Look I know I own your house now But you're not going to slip and fall There's an amazing irony to Alex Jones being like, they want a race war. They want to make everything racial. And then Joe Biggs, 20 seconds later being like, I didn't see her cleaning up in Ferguson.
Starting point is 01:06:41 All these white people, they cleaned up. Yeah. Now, the reality of that is quite different. I'm going to read here from an article in the Huffington Post. They fucking pooped everywhere. No, they were disgusting. They dug trenches full of poop. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:54 The Mal Hurd National Wildlife Refuge, quote unquote, occupation ended more than a month ago. but yet damage caused by the armed militants who gathered to protest the federal government's management of public lands remains. The total cost of the occupation stands at about $6 million to the federal government, in addition to $3 million already pitched in by the state of Oregon. Of that, Jason Holm. Tom and Martha have a lot of back pay coming. Jason Holm, assistant regional director of USFWS, says $1.7 million has been flagged just for repairs and cleaning of the reserve itself. Home warned the nearly $2 million cleanup cost is a moving figure, subject to change, as the agency conducts a thorough inventory of what was broken and what's missing.
Starting point is 01:07:39 So here's where it gets really important. So they made those buckets of poop and what have you. And that's one thing. A report released in February by the FBI said, quote, significant amounts of human feces were found on site after the occupier surrendered next to a sensitive cultural site containing artifact sacred to the Burns-Puitt tribe. Great. So that...
Starting point is 01:08:04 Boy, boy, howdy. Home? Boy, howdy, is that a big, giant fucking metaphor right there? If I saw that in a movie, I would be like, guys, bid on the nose. Yeah. Holmes said the wildlife refuge will recover eventually, but there's concern that the militia members may have harmed Native American artifacts or destroyed other records, which are irreplaceable. Nature is durable. It'll be just fine, Holmes said.
Starting point is 01:08:26 buildings and property are fixable or replaceable. They'll be fine. The relationships with the community will strengthen as a result of this. However, damages to tribal artifacts would be heinous. And lost or missing biological data could be impossible to replicate. Our refuge employees are thrilled to be back doing the job. Blah, blah, blah. We're thrilled and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:08:46 26 people were charged with federal conspiracy. Now is a great time to remind everybody that they just got off. Scott Free. They did. I mean, they did cause. a lot of damage to sacred sites that they will not have to pay for or do any criminal time for
Starting point is 01:09:02 no jail time for them. Nope. And so to drive home the point that Alex Jones excuses all white behavior, here is a clip of him saying that pretty much all white terrorism is just the feds. Fair enough. There would be more feds at the meeting than there would
Starting point is 01:09:18 be patriots and the feds would have to have secret hand signs so they wouldn't set each other up. Of course. I mean, it's that bad folks. I've had them no exact generation probably 30 plus times. Come up to me in a book signing, a video signing an event and go, listen, I got C4 in my truck out there right now. Let's go blow up the police station.
Starting point is 01:09:35 And I go, get the camera on, get the camera. This person's a cop. And they run out and so they got a cop car, you know, unmarked fed. And they'll go, I'll get you later, Jones. I don't know about that. If true, we got to hire some better cops. That is a bad idea. For real.
Starting point is 01:09:52 As far as the honeypot goes, not a good one. Uh, yeah. Hey, Alex. Let's go blow up a police station. Oh, you caught me. If you're living the kind of life where 30 times in your 20-year career, someone has come up to you, real or not, and suggested you blow up a police station? Right.
Starting point is 01:10:14 You're not doing a good job. You're in a bad line of work. You're attracting the wrong crowd. You need a doctor. And now I'm... Those people aren't real. And now I'm... You just want to blow up a police station.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I'm deeply concerned now that any fan who runs into us on the streets now, that will be their code for, I listen to the show. Let's go blow up a police station. I really hope that that doesn't. Guys, guys, put your phones in your freezer. It's time to go blow up a police. That's a cop. Oh, no. Get the camera on him.
Starting point is 01:10:42 If you're a cop or you're just playing a prank, I think you would probably run away if Alex Jones is like, get the camera on him. He's a cop. I think that doesn't prove their cops. I also don't think it happened 30 times. But be that it, it may. Fed's. All of them. At this point in the episode, Alex brings on his big CIA whistleblower, Tosh Plumley.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Tosh Plumley.0. Right. Yeah. And I don't care. I don't really care. But at a certain point... Which faction does Tosh belong to? The eighth faction.
Starting point is 01:11:15 The eighth faction? I wasn't supposed to talk about this. The secret eighth fashion? God damn it. All they do is... You only learn about that if you're a third, 33rd level Mason. All they do is blow up police stations with the help of... of minor radio personalities.
Starting point is 01:11:30 So in his interview, though, there's one thing I wanted to play for you because I think it's really interesting. I think it's very, very interesting. And if you listen to this closely, I think that it's Tosh Plumley pointing a finger at Alex. I don't know if that's the case. As if it's Alex's fault for these kinds of assholes doing this kind of shit. No. I think he's subtly trying to be like, give a hint to the audience. or something like this.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I would say I don't think I've heard Tosh Plumley on the show in a long time. And there may be, like, there might be a thing where he's like, I don't want to come on your show anymore. I don't know. I'm not entirely sure. I don't have the statistics to back that up. He might have been on two weeks ago and I just missed it. Sure. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:12:14 But there are things that he's saying in this clip that are absolutely like, I'm kind of talking about Alex. Yeah. I think you'll pick up on it pretty quick. Okay. Wow. You're so incredible. Tell them about illusionary warfare training. Well, that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:12:29 It's a modified technique that's been used since the 1950s. Is it infiltrate in? If you can control the communications, you've won the war or you've won the situation. That's right. Usually the communications person that, quote, handles all communications for the group is who you look for. We've had Malkenberg. That's an whole CIA project. Now, let me qualify something here on CIA.
Starting point is 01:12:53 there are people that is infiltrated within the CIA that are CIA that some of the CIA do not even know it. The ninth fact is. We have a, and I'm not talking about rogues. Oh, there's shadow CIA. I'm talking about shadow warriors, you know, not from the standpoint of shadow warriors on organizations and things like that. I'm talking about there is a shadow government out there that is working these programs.
Starting point is 01:13:22 The program is designed to desensitize us to where we expect exactly what the hell we're getting. That's right. Let's be clear. The big foundations, the big leftist foundations, run but have the national security clearances, the clandestine, dirty programs against the Patriots. And so a lot of times the local police, the FBI, even the CIA don't know. It's the foundations that are even above the agencies with their action program here in the United States. All right, let me put it this way, too.
Starting point is 01:13:54 You hit it right on your head, Alex. Sure. Also, there's gatekeepers assigned end of these organizations, our agencies, that prevent good, honest people that work for those agencies from doing their job. So three things that were said within that clip are giant criticisms that are levied in the anti-Alex Jones online community. Okay. The first is that idea of community. Communications people are probably the most suspicious.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Right. Alex Jones is the biggest mouthpiece of the Patriot community. Right. He is the communications aspect of that entire operation. And Alex seems to not understand what his own words implicate him in being like, you know, yeah, you find the person who's in charge of communications. That's your guy. He's pointing the finger at himself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:46 So the second thing is the idea that Alex Jones desensitizes people to the situation. that the powers that be want them to be desensitized. Right. So they accept their circumstances. So you have this idea of this overpowerful elite, these globalists who have their fingers in every pie. They control all seven factions of the CIA. But not the secret eighth faction. No, that's true, which Tosh Plumley, 0 is a part of it.
Starting point is 01:15:12 So that idea desensitizing you to this worldwide conspiracy that exists through ironclad pedophile blackmail that want to kill your children and drink. their blood and all this stuff. And all they're going to do is keep trying to fuck with you through, like, making you depressed through the water, the chemicals in the water. The media is going to lie to you all the time. There's going to be fake terrorists that are going to run you over with a car. You're not safe in public. This idea is...
Starting point is 01:15:41 And you can't fight it back against them except by giving me money. And yelling at Muslims on the streets if you see them because that's good fun. But like the idea that his role in the whole game plan is desensitizing people to be able to think, I can't fight back. Right. When the way to fight back is through direct action, through protesting, through writing letters to your Congresspeople, voting, all those sorts of things. Like, those are legitimate things you can do.
Starting point is 01:16:06 You can push for reform. Those things you're not, like, we are not past that point. Alex Jones's role, according to a lot of his critics online, is that he is there to train you to think you don't have anything you can do. He's in the shadowy ninth faction of the CIA. a trained hopelessness that Alex Jones
Starting point is 01:16:26 instills in his audience. Again, like you said, even as I was talking, the only thing you can do is give him
Starting point is 01:16:31 money and support him. The third thing in that one and a half minute clip of Tosh Plumley's that is also one of the big fingers that gets
Starting point is 01:16:42 pointed at Alex Jones is that he is a gatekeeper and that he is in place. So there is a flow of information the correct way. I don't necessarily
Starting point is 01:16:51 believe this because that implies that the globalists are real. Right. And that, but that criticism that comes to him from these internet commenters is that the globalists are real, and Alex is a limited hangout. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:03 He's controlled opposition where he feeds you a little bit of truth and a lot of lies. Right. In order to make sure that you stay suckling off his teat as opposed to the real truth tellers in the world. He won't even come out and say that the Jews are at fault for all of our problems. He kind of does. Yeah, well. But, but so.
Starting point is 01:17:20 But he won't come out and say it. I'm not saying necessarily. Clearly the Tosh Plumley is wagging his dick at Alex. But there is, it's, it strikes me as amazing that there's three of the biggest criticisms of Alex within one minute and a half of them talking. Yeah, but that gets back to our, I know you are, but what am I? Like if you want, like, what they're doing is just accusing the opposition of what it is, whatever it is they think they're doing. Like, they're, they're silly. It feels a little, it's silly.
Starting point is 01:17:48 No, it's a little different. Uh-huh. It's a little different than the general. Um, coming from Tosh Plumley.0. No. Well, yeah. Yeah. It is. It is a little bit different. And I, I give it, um, I give it a little bit more of a pause to be like, why is he saying those things? With Alex, it's just, of course, the I'm rubber, your glue. Yeah. But him coming, Tosh coming in and saying stuff like that just makes me think like there's probably an intention behind it and it's not just deflecting. Because he doesn't have to do that. Right. He has no. skin in the game necessarily. No, which is why he can just say, you hit the nail right on the head, Alex, and then say something completely different.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Well, that's what all his guests is. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, here's a little bit of a commercial that I really enjoyed that Alex does for his product DNA force. Great. No ad pivot to speak of on this, but man, this is just going straight into it. This is a great commercial. Okay. Just the bio PQQ is $12,000 to $14,000 a kilo from the Japanese who make it right here in America.
Starting point is 01:18:51 in Japan they've been obsessed with it for 20 years. And of course, they're the longest little people there are for a lot of other reasons. The point is DNA force is hardcore. Just the biopq has the equivalent vitamin C delivery in the body. It's different, but it's basically the same. Read the science of 300 pounds of blueberries. You can't take, you know, 20 counts to vitamin C like as Pauling said, not get diarrhea. How much?
Starting point is 01:19:17 You can't really overdose on it, but it can make you sick. BIOQ, one pill, 300 pounds of blueberries. I mean, it's just, it's wild. And this is what the elite takes. I don't, I mean, I remember five years ago, my dad was going to medical doctors. He was going to people. He's done some stuff with the Pentagon trying to get things fast-track nutraceuticals separately from working with female.
Starting point is 01:19:43 And he said, this is what you need to do. Because he goes, they're going to try to ban this here in the U.S. or make a prescription. He goes, this is $300 and $600 for something. So we made our own formula. And believe me, it's got the industry actually upset. All blueberries. They pay $300 for something like this, and ours is better.
Starting point is 01:20:02 So info warslife.com. I found a comparable product for $50, but be that as it may. You know what? See, now, I just saw the best infomercial ever. Like, if we're talking as seen on TV products, This is the perfect time to be like, have you ever been eating 300 pounds of blueberries? And you're like, oh, who has the time? My mouth is blue.
Starting point is 01:20:26 And they just show like a B-roll from, uh, from Wonka. Or just some woman holding 300 pounds of blueberries going, uh, slipping and falling. How many times have you been in this situation? How many times have you held 300 pounds of blueberries? Right. Oh, yeah. I can't even afford it. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:20:43 And one of the things when I was looking into this, I don't care about the blueberry situation. But, and I find myself saying that all the time. Do you mean the band, the blueberry situation? No, but also rest in peace, cranberries. Yeah. Yes, true. But be that as it may, the difference between Alex's products and other products
Starting point is 01:21:06 is in the... Blueberry tonnage. No. The nutrition information. What you find is that Alex's... Jones always has on the back of the bottle, proprietary blend and then whatever amount. And it says the things that are in it, but it doesn't say how much of anything is in it. Because it's a proprietary blend.
Starting point is 01:21:28 It's all blended together. Gotcha. He just lists the ingredients. He doesn't give you an actual idea of percentage. Of how much is in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, you find a comparable product on like some other, another company puts out, and they'll give you specifics.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Yeah. They'll give you all the actual amount. How much bio PQQQ is in it? it because he's saying it costs $14,000 a kilo or whatever, and that could be enough to go six years. Let's take a look at this. There's something like that. Hold on one second.
Starting point is 01:21:57 There is 25% of your daily allotted vitamin C in this. Right. How many pounds of blueberries is that? He's pretending somehow it's, he says, is that 10 pounds of blueberries? He says it's absorbed the same, but different. But different. I don't know what that is. It's nothing.
Starting point is 01:22:14 So in this next clip, Alex Jones has another. weirdo guest, a guy by the name of Joel Scousen, who's a... Who picks blueberries? He's a mess. Hate this guy. I can't get off this blueberry thing. I want to measure everything in pounds of blueberries now. I want to know how in a bowl of cereal, how many pounds of blueberries are there.
Starting point is 01:22:34 I mean, it depends. How many... I mean, is it honey bunches of oats with blueberries? No, I was going to go with booberries. There's zero. There's zero blueberries, zero pounds of blueberries and blueberry. However, in bio PQQQ, a lot of booberries. So, Joe Scousin comes on, and he, I hate him.
Starting point is 01:22:56 I don't want to talk about his history or anything like that, because I'm, I'm going to take him down. It's just a dick. I'm going to take him down a little bit later in a much more thorough way. But in this clip, he basically just rewrites what happened with the shooting of Lvoi Finnecombe and gives him a real generous take. I wonder why. Finnecum, who's a very mild.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Mild-mannered, grandfatherly type, well-spoken, Mormon. He's a good... So already, well-spoken, grandfatherly type, Mormon, good man. White. Good religious man. It's a shame that he's the one that got shot. I mean, this guy was taking the higher ground. He was not.
Starting point is 01:23:37 You know, there's conflict reports about what happened when he got out of the car, but clearly it was not armed. His hands were in the air. And it's true that he may have been fed up. You know, one of the witnesses, and talking to Bundy's bodyguard said that he rushed the officers, but I don't think that's really what happened. What I think was in his anger saying, look, if you're going to kill me, then go ahead and shoot.
Starting point is 01:23:56 And he was, you know, walking forward to them, basically bearing his chest to them with his hands. But there's no justification for the police, the FBI, or whoever it was, to shoot him in the head when his hands are near. I don't care if you're walking towards him or even like that. So beyond that, let's pretend he wasn't on. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Okay. Let's pretend he wasn't armed. Right. Which is not true. Now, but... Now, admittedly, Bundy's bodyguards did say he was angry and he rushed the cops, but with no information at all, I don't think that's what happened. Let's pretend that he wasn't armed and Joel Scousin's situation is right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Now, let's imagine a situation where he's not white and... Now, we don't... We already know. No, no, no, no. But let's imagine the situation where just by Joel Scousin's words that he was fed up and he said, said, shoot me, and he was walking towards the police bearing his chest, and they told him to stop walking, and he kept walking towards them. There's no way Alex Jones would ever give any kind of a pass. No, of course not.
Starting point is 01:24:57 For this sort of thing. No, no, no. And the idea that Joel Scousen is just like, what I think happened. Yeah, I know. That was bananas. That's terrible analysis. No. I don't think that's what happened.
Starting point is 01:25:07 No. No, it's that simple. You don't get to do that. No, no. The guys who were on his side, who were there, reported. what happened. I don't think they know what they're talking about. I think he was cool.
Starting point is 01:25:19 I don't think so. I think he was a cool guy. Nah, I don't think. I don't think they know what they're talking about. He is a cool guy. Yeah. He had his hands up now, admittedly, one was in his pocket reaching for a pistol.
Starting point is 01:25:30 That's true. Yeah. But I think if you're a grandfatherly type, well-spoken guy, who wouldn't pull a pistol on the cops, right? Yeah. Who amongst us grandfatherly white people? Wouldn't just pull a pistol. I know my grandfather was the kind of guy who would take government money to not grow things on land. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:53 And then get $100,000 a year for a charity to have a bunch of foster kids. Right. When I have 15 of my own children. Right. Crazy. Anyway, we have one more clip, Jordan. And this is where Alex Jones goes through. I wanted to leave this episode because it's been a little bit heavy on me poking massive holes in his historical beliefs.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Right. And I wanted to leave with a good example of how he covers news. I know we hear little clips from time to time of him like... I'm sorry, you said news. What you should have said was lore of the day. Headlines is the lore of the day. Lord du jour. And this is him riffing through the headlines.
Starting point is 01:26:35 Enjoy. U.S. to stabilize Europe, Austrian. I just want to be clear. Also, keep in mind, this is the exact same headlines that he didn't get into the actual stories of earlier. Right. He just, he's on repeats. Record holding athlete lashes out.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Absolutely. That's the plan. 60% of refugees heading to Europe or economic migrants, EU official. Feminized males will allow Muslims to conquer Europe. Sounds right. Again, this is, it's the strategy of repetition with no analysis. Right. No discussion of whether or not these things I'm saying are true or what the context of
Starting point is 01:27:10 these things are, just repetition. So you believe it. It's beat into your head. be afraid. Putting estrogen in the water attracts bears. And bees. I hate bees. Absolutely. They love it. They love to get beat up while their old girlfriend gets drug off and gang raped and the hood put
Starting point is 01:27:27 on her head and the police just hail it. They just, oh, they love it. It's a symbol of conquering Europe by the state that hates its slaves, hates its minions. It just wants to slap them around because there's nothing they won't put up with, nothing they don't love. no amount of humiliation they don't want. Top Bilderberg, Global Super Elite must stop Donald Trump. InfoWars.com. Very important article.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Hillary Clinton, Roslow 50% nationally, even in stage polls. Plentinista complains to Twitter that co-founder that Hillary mocking hashtag is pure misogyny, wants banning Hillary to be done. All the same stories. Some trendy actress wants to tell the media what they can write about Hillary. I mean, these people are just, just form. blaming out of control. People on the left don't like Lenned Donham either.
Starting point is 01:28:17 No. Bad example. Open my eagle, put it best. I looked up what Lena Dunham said, and I shouldn't have. Yeah. Ugly, dumb tyrants. But doesn't matter. We fall and worship them and do whatever they say,
Starting point is 01:28:32 rolling over on our backs like a puppy, just in total fear. Because we love it. We love it. Just, uh, land of the cowards, home of the slaves. land of the idiots, just groveling, loving every minute of it. It just goes on and on and on and on and on.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Really, there's a certain percentage that's like that. A big percentage, though, really, really hates the government. CBS News poll. Great. Government is just hated more than organized crime because it is organized crime. At the top. Nice. Main governor.
Starting point is 01:29:05 Nice. All the page. Bring back the guillotine for drug traffickers. Oh, like the CIA and all big banks that publicly run it all? I just love these anti-dribes. drug people. Fake almost laugh. Everybody knows who brings the drugs in.
Starting point is 01:29:17 They want to keep it illegal to keep the prices up. He delivered that line right there as if it's an old-time catchphrase. They keep it illegal. To keep the prices up. Almost as if it's a call and response. Like on his farewell tour, you be the audience. They keep it illegal. So keep the prices up.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Thank you. It's been great. All right. All good wonderful. Hey. Give me a break. City demands firearms. Applicants write essay explaining the need for a gun, and they, of course, refuse most of them.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Where's the evidence of that, Alex? Hamburger essays are not people who buy guns as strong point. And also, where is the, you got statistics on rejections of these essays that I'm sure are just part of, I don't know, just like a formality, just write something. If you write an essay that would score you 300 on the written SAT, we'll give you a gun. If you can avoid saying, I want to don't kill somebody, then you get a gun. But nobody wants your guns, folks. Monsanto sues the block listing of herbicide ingredient as a carcinogen. Well, it's because studies came out that showed that glyphosate is not a carcinogen.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Or at very least, it's in the lowest category possible in terms of potential carcinogens. Yeah, I don't want to defend Monsanto, though. Neither do I. They can all burn in hell. No, totally. But this is a misrepresentation of facts, and Alex can't handle it. on and on. At this point, he has run out of stories.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Yes. All the paper's gone. I'm going to hand the baton to Jukari and Leanne now. But before I do that, I wanted to just remind everybody one more time today that we're running the biggest special ever on DNA force. Yeah, of course it was. Saw that one coming. But it's still... Too easy.
Starting point is 01:31:02 It still happened. Do you know who is trying to keep us from getting good ad pivots? Big blueberry? No. Oh, Rosicution Cults. Dude, that's another thing that I was thinking about. Like, I know a little bit about the Rosicrucians. And one of the things, like, I think that in terms of, when we talk about Alex Jones's Christianity,
Starting point is 01:31:21 or lack thereof, or weird version thereof, I think that I've been too focused on straight up Gnosticism. I think that some of those ideas about living on through your children might come from Rosicrucian beliefs. Because they're big into reincarnation and perfection of the soul through repetition and stuff like that. So I think that that might be, Alex might subscribe not only to dumb lore about history. He might also have like Rosicrucian Christian beliefs. Dumb religion as well. I don't actually think the Rosicrucians are all that dumb.
Starting point is 01:31:54 They're pretty interesting, quite frankly. But Alex is dumb. Those two are not mutually exclusive. Alex is dumb, so it becomes dumb through him. True. He is a vessel wherein the interesting becomes stupid. That's the best sentence I've ever read. I know. You just nailed it.
Starting point is 01:32:11 So, yeah, that's the show. That's his January, what is that? January 27th, 2016. Yep. Beautiful. So also, just to give you a little bit of context, this is after he has decided to join Team Trump. This is after our investigation.
Starting point is 01:32:26 Of course. Rest in peace, Levoie Finacom. It is sad that anybody had to die, but at the same time. Fuck him. I used to feel bad for the 15 kids. No, wasn't it Amon Bundy who had the? or Cliven Bundy who had the 15 kids? It was the, it was that guy who.
Starting point is 01:32:42 LaVoy had 15 kids. He had 15 kids and he was the one who adopted all of those kids so he could siphon money from the government. According to the site I saw earlier today, yes, that is absolutely the case. What a welfare queen. Yeah. Oh, I forgot to play the out of context drop. Oh.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Which is just as fun afterwards as it would have been beforehand. And here you go. Yeah, folks, I'm psychic. I mean, it's a fact, okay? I mean, I don't control it. Nobody can. But, I mean, I knew something. I could just feel it.
Starting point is 01:33:10 I said something bad was about to happen. You notice it did. Okay. I thought he was just going to be. I thought he was being sarcastic of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, guys, sure, I'm psychic. And instead he turns into the, no, of course I'm psychic. I can't control it. I can't control it, though.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Yep. Absolutely. Wow. What a dumb, dumb. Amazing. Anyway, guys, if you'd like more of the show, you can check us out at knowledgefight.com. Also, if you want to see too much of the show. With an amazing opener, Nate Burroughs.
Starting point is 01:33:37 One of the best. You know what? If you don't like our show, come for the first 10 minutes. It's still pretty good. Come enjoy some Nate Barrow. It'd be interesting to see people listening to this podcast and be like, you know what? I don't like their show, but Nate Burroughs is fucking great. Let's be polite and sit through here.
Starting point is 01:33:52 Yeah, that will be Saturday. Saturday, Saturday, January 20th at 10.30 p.m. At the playground theater, please come if you can. www. The playgroundtheater.com. Absolutely. Slash knowledge dash fight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:07 We'll put up a link. Also, we're on Twitter, Knowledge underscore Fight. That's true. On Facebook. You can look us up on the iTunes. We live there. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Beyond that. I don't know. You know what? I think I have the perfect. I have the perfect one. I think we should call Matt Druffke so he can give one. Ooh, that would be nice. Because garbage dick.
Starting point is 01:34:28 I believe. Not garbage dick. That's our friend. Trash Dick. Trash Dick Joe Walsh. Yeah. Names are way too close. Right.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Right, right. Trash Dick Joe Walsh is being a real asshole. Garbage dick, great guy. Trash dick, the fucking worst. In honor of Druffke, I'd like to... Absolutely. But you're entitled to yours as well. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Who cares? Come on. No, no, no, I don't care. It's just going to be one of the Bundys. Who cares? No, right, fine. They can all live in that bundle of go fuck yourself. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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