Knowledge Fight - The Halloween Story

Episode Date: September 27, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about a Halloween party that Alex Jones attended back in 2015. Over the course of 11 days on his show, Alex tells 4 slightly different versions of what happened that night and what was going on with his hat. Dan and Jordan try to track the details and figure out what's real and what is Alex's paranoid delusions.

Andy and Chanzos, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex, I'm a first-name caller, I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Hello, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan.

We are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Now, is there like a reason, so like, is there a twist? So like, is it like two years ago, you tweeted all the time about Alex Jones? I didn't. And then now you're tweeting the exact opposite

of what it is you criticized Alex Jones for in the past. Now, I'm just referencing Trump's dumb ass tweets. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a tweet for every occasion. It's been the case for a long time, and especially over this last weekend, with his NFL bullshit.

Oh, my God. It's wild time. Wild time. Our country, what are we doing? It's 90. What are we doing? It's 90 degrees in Chicago at the end of September. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Puerto Rico is destroyed. It's gone. And Trump is pissed off at Colin Kaepernick. Yep, great, great. Burn it down. Burn it down. Let's start over. It's almost like racist parody.

Like, I know that that's like kind of letting things off the hook a little bit. But it does at times like, I know that this isn't accurate, but there have been times in my life where I've been convinced that like, Ann Coulter is a performance artist. Yeah.

And she's just doing this stuff to be like, I can't believe the people are fucking believing that I believe this. The Boondocks had an entire episode based around how Ann Coulter and, what's it? Jesse Jackson? Yeah. I only know that because you've brought this up before.

Yeah, fair enough. All right, I am boring. And I don't know anything about Alex John. College fight is in repeat. So today, Jordan, we got a little mini episode for the people. Okay. And the reason that we're doing this is

October is almost upon us. Yeah, Jesus, how is, man. It's gonna be 95 degrees in October. The reason that October being upon us is relevant is because today we will be going through Alex Jones's various versions of his Halloween 2015 story. Oh, fuck yes. Yeah.

Excellent. So we're just gonna cover each and every one. Yep, due to public demand, we went over, when we hit the beginning of November in our 2015 investigation, we were too busy talking about Alex Jones becoming a full on shill for Russia, that we didn't have time to go over the Halloween story

and this prompted some backlash from the listeners. Backlash? I got a couple. Do you mean polite asking us to do something? I got a few pretty terse messages from people. They were terse. Multiple people being like, we demand the Halloween story.

Some more. We do not negotiate with terrorist policy walks. We actually do. We'll negotiate. That's basically all we do. Yeah, we'll make an entire episode for terrorist policy walks. Yeah, we're happy to do it.

And you know what, they're right. They're right. Made a audacious claim that Alex Jones tells multiple versions of this Halloween story with slight variations to the point where I believe that most of it is a lie. And we are drinking prescription energy herbal tonic from Arizona.

Wait, I'm sorry. What were you talking about? There's a real non sequitur in the middle of my explanation of the episode. Hold on a second. What were you talking about? Halloween. Anyways.

I personally don't like Halloween all that much. I, as an adult, I don't like dressing up much. I tend to go too far with it. Like one year I was a monk and I shaved my head like with the ring on top. You went too far with it. I went too far. I went around with a bottle of Carlo Rossi, the jug wine.

Yes, that's very good. I was blessing. You were a friar tuck. Yeah. And whenever someone like committed a party foul, I made them say Hail Mary's and Our Fathers. Wow, damn. I committed hard.

You get way too into character. Which is why I can't handle Halloween. I just like the old acting bug that I had when I was in high school. I'm not a big Halloween guy either, but that's because when I was growing up, my parents mistakenly thought it was the Devil's Holiday and kept me from celebrating it in any way

because it was evil. It's sawing. And that's when I tried to explain to them pagan rituals. And that did not go over well considering the fact that I was seven. That's code for devil shit though, weirdo Christians. Right. Anyway.

Despite the fact that most of their mythology was based on repackaged pagan rituals. Indeed. So here is what we know. Yes. And these are the only real facts that I can confirm that I believe. OK.

Alex Jones. Halloween does exist. I can confirm that. OK. Alex Jones went to a party. Also true. That was for his cousin Buckley. Right.

It's his birthday party. Fucked his wife. All of them. All 18 of them at this point. We're escalating that number way too fast. I think we're at seven. Yeah, something like that. So it was Buckley's birthday.

And it was around Halloween. And Alex Jones went to a fancy dress ball of sorts. And why would anyone invite Alex to anything fancy? Even if he's your cousin. Yeah. It's not it's not a fancy. That's the old time expression for like a costume ball. Gotcha.

Fancy dress ball. I see. I see. That's what they would call it. A sock hop. I only know this because of Steppenwolf. OK. They call it.

They call them fancy dress balls when it's really like a. The theater. It's not even a theater. It's when you were at the Steppenwolf theater. Anyways, moving on. That's where let's restart this whole episode. I'm off. I'm off my game.

Hey, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Jordan. We are couple dudes. So let's get to the first version of the story. This one comes to us from November 2nd, 2015. This is the first time that Alex sees fit to tell the story of Buckley's Halloween birthday party. Is that wait?

So you know that for sure? What do you mean? I mean, has this story been just November 2015? Or has he been telling it for? Oh, no. I have no idea. I mean, if he's repackaging it from years prior, I could not tell you that.

But I know in 2015, the first occasion is November 2nd. Well, the Department of Transportation for Arkansas is on the streets right now. He does. That is a good party. Yeah. You have a party with the DOTs? That'd be great if you showed up in DOT.

T-dress. Or a little bit like that. Yeah, that'd be great. Why the fuck not? Anyway, here's the story. By the way, I went to my cousin's birthday party. I'm going to skip the network break. I have to do it.

Then I'm going to stop. I went to my cousin's birthday party. By the way, real good occasion to skip a break. Like he's got to tell the story. I got to tell the story about Buckley's birthday party. It's a great story. It's not. Here we go.

It's like a day before Halloween. But it was a costume party. You know, that's fun. And I was wearing a captain's hat. Because he rented a boat when we went out on, like, Austin, with a bunch of people and music and drove around. So first of all, I need you to keep track of the various details of these stories.

I am writing down each and every. So it's a costume party on a boat at this point. Captain's hat, which is a shitty costume, and he is not participating. The captain's hat is fine. I'm going to give it to him. Because one time, also, this was when I was in college. I dressed up like Michael McDonald from the series Yacht Rock.

I realized I looked just enough like J.D. Reisner that I could dress up like the character Michael McDonald in Yacht Rock. I hope two years from now, people go back and take clips from your Halloween stories. And they're like, none of these are consistent. Dan keeps telling different versions of these. I had a picture of J.D. Reisner.

And I went to the fucking barber. And I had them cut like a receding hairline. God. It was nuts. You're an insane person. Yeah, as I went to this party, I had a bottle of Malibu rum. And I was just going around chugging the Malibu rum. Dan, I love you.

And I'm so glad I did not know you back then. Sinking what a fool believes at people. God damn it, Dan. My buddy, Nikki Gifts, was Christopher Cross. OK. It was pretty fun. Anyway, let's get back to the story. Again, keep an eye on the details.

I'm writing them all down. All right. And then I went back. And it was actually a party. He rented a big condo downtown. So a condo. Once at the condo, but also once at a restaurant slash bar. So we were a bunch of places.

I had a white guy once. And then a white girl another time. I said two times, actually three times. And then a guy that looked like he was Arab, I didn't ask him, come up to me. And I'm out there on the balcony. So hold on. There's three people, a white guy, a white girl,

and a suspiciously Arabic guy. Yes. And he is. And a restaurant slash bar. He's bar hopping. Next to a condo downtown. So there's a boat where there was the party. And then Buckley has rented a condo

where there's another party. Right. And then there is a restaurant that has a balcony. Or the most likely the balcony is the condo. Yeah, yeah. So what's our timeline here? We're at the, we're on the boat. Right.

We go to the condo. Boat is probably at the beginning. Then we go to the restaurant. You've got to imagine boat is where it starts. Yeah, exactly. So then we go to the condo. Then we go to the restaurant. Then we're back at the condo?

I would argue that the restaurant, it might be boat restaurant condo. OK. Because you know, that makes more sense. You're not going to the party condo to shower up for the restaurant or change your clothes or anything like that. Right.

You're going straight through. Right. You're going, you're getting drunk on the boat. And then you're eating to refuel. And then you're going to the condo party. OK. That's how I think that. So he's already screwed up in describing the timeline here.

Absolutely. Gotcha. There's some issues. But then also the balcony is where the scene is being set for this confrontation. Yes. Which would have to mean it's at a private condo. Yes.

That has been rented out by Buckley. White guy, white girl. Or suspiciously Arab man. We don't know which one of these people is in play. Not yet. Yet. Here we go. Beautiful night sky, watching a drone fly around.

And he says, what are you? There's a couple of us wearing captain's hats. We're going to go out on a boat. We just went to the store, like $2 a piece, and we got captain hats. I think they're $4, something like that. And I'm like, what is that? And I turn and I look at him.

He goes, what is that, Nazi? Because I'm offended by Nazis. And I went, are you joking? You think this is a Nazi hat? I said, yeah, it is. I turned around and squared up to the guy. I said, yeah, it is a Nazi hat. Got a problem with it?

What if it was a Nazi hat? Why can't I dress up like World War II? But you know it's not a Nazi hat. You should not. He should know very clearly why you can't dress up. What if it is blackface? Why can't I dress up like Al Jolson? Yeah, the issues that I'm running into

are the trademark too many details. It was $2, I think it was $4. I think it was $4, yeah. Too much. And the having dialogue usually means that he's lying. Those two things together generally mean you're probably making this up. Or it's in his head.

Right, right, like that incident in the gym where he accused people of being totalitarian. So here we go. You want to show off in front of these women right here with your cultural superiority and impact me to act like I've done something wrong as an act of aggression by you. Cock.

And this whole cultural jihad that's getting pushed by the left. So I'm guessing based on that use of language, this is the Arab. I'm just gonna guess that it's not the white guy who has confronted him on this balcony under a beautiful night sky where he's watching a drone. Drones flying around.

I'm not a hundred percent sure though because he's fast and loose. These here details. Gotcha. Except for the ones that are clearly not true. Although he is saying, are you showing off for the girl right next to you? So it could be the white guy and the white girl.

Could be. No, the white girl's gonna come into play in a minute. Oh, okay. So the white girl is not yet in play? I don't think so. Okay. Also $4 is a good deal for a captain's hat. That's not a bad deal.

Congratulations. Are we talking about boating captain's hat? I think it's a tricorner. It's a tricorner, like a pirate hat? All right. I'm just imagining that. No, it's like one of those. It's like the one with the,

it's almost like a Newsy cap, but it's white. It's something like that. With the black thing around it. He says that it's a standard captain's hat. Great. Yeah. Didn't that what it's about? He goes, actually, I kind of agree with you.

I guess you're right. I don't know. Good. Have a nice night. There was a blonde college girl. So this is probably the white girl that he was referencing. Probably.

Maybe. But he did say that. Or this could be another person at the party. This is another person because he said that there were three people who accosted him about his costume. And they were walking by while he was on the balcony. Maybe, but if they were in the party,

then they would have to be friends of Buckley's. Like he rented out a fucking condo. Buckley is friends with all blonde college girls. When you, when you, when you rent out a condo, you know what I'm saying about Buckley. I do. I do. He gets around. He gets around.

When you rent out a condo, it's not a public space anymore. It's not like he's posting flyers. Like it's PCU or some shit. Everybody gets laid tonight at the pit. You know, it's a PCU reference. Yeah. Back when Piven was just balding. Yeah.

Which, hey, he grew his hair back. I like that movie. I haven't watched it in 15 years. You don't want to watch it again. Although P Funk is in it. So there you go. I remember it well from the early days of Comedy Central when they didn't have anything else to air.

They just showed that all the time. That and Jason Lee's kissing a fool. You love that movie though. But that's also probably because of Stockholm syndrome. True. Being forced to watch it before any programming was on. Anyway, back to the story. Here we have now introduced a blonde college girl.

Who literally was going around saying, I just didn't want to wear any costume because of my white guilt. I don't want to offend anybody. I'm like, great. So this is how mentally ill people are. There are people going around all over the place. So mentally ill that they're going,

I'm so guilty of what I'm wearing. It might offend someone. I better not wear anything and telling everyone about it. And then I had a white guy and an Arab guy separately at the restaurant slash bar come over and say, what's that hat? I think he was wearing a Nazi hat. He might have.

I think he's lying. I think he actually was wearing a Nazi hat. I have two theories. We're almost at the end of this clip. But he says now that the two of them were both at the restaurant bar. But separately asking him. I don't know what the,

I mean, I guess if it's a high end Austin bar, it's conceivable it has a balcony or whatever. It's possible. Or it could just be on the ground floor and it has the little thing, the steps. But at the same time, he is now in the course of this two minute clip we've been going over,

he's gone from three to two people. So the number of people who have complained about his costume has already changed. And he has completely manufactured a college girl. My note, my suspicion is the characters that he introduced at the beginning, he is now peppering in throughout the story. So the three people who are costed his costume,

one of them actually didn't. She is now repurposed as the character who has too much white guilt. Yes. Okay. To even wear a costume. So it could be just a case of him trying to overinflate the numbers of people who have confronted him

about his costume. Or since he's lying, he just can't keep his story straight. Right. He's just riffing. And this actually, I think that there is an element of this that it is like over the course of this,

we're going to see a bit be fleshed out. It's like an open mic. Oh, okay. All right. Because he tells the story a bunch. So he's refining the story as we go through it. Well, he's not doing a great job of it. But yeah.

Oh, what? This is a productive, open-miking season. Okay. But here we go. At least he's trying. Here's the end of this clip. I went, oh no, this isn't happening again. I said, what's it look like?

So I thought maybe he's being friendly. And he goes, I don't know, it looks kind of fascist. No, but really, it's a classic police hat style captain hat. It's like a 20s, 30s, 40s hat. So your theory that he accidentally bought a Nazi hat is possible. Especially since he's saying 30s. Yeah.

There is a possibility that he accidentally bought a Nazi hat that I'm allowing as a possibility. No wonder it was so cheap. The other possibility that I am gonna entertain is that these people knew who Alex was. And they came up to him and be like, you are a fucking fascist. That's entirely possible.

And he thought they were complaining about his hat. That is entirely possible. That's possible. Right. Again, this goes back to the unreliable narrator aspect of Alex Jones's life. So let's get into the second version of the story. A week later, on November 9th, he revisits the story.

And does he also skip a break to tell this story? I can neither confirm nor deny the break status. Every time he needs to skip a break, he should goes right into the story. Yeah, every time. I would love it if his advertising budget just fell apart because he's telling the story. So here we go from the ninth.

All they do is run around and scream at people all day that they've been offended. I had two people on Halloween, because I went to my cousin's birthday party, come up to me and say, are you a Nazi? That's different. And I'd laugh and say, no. They'd say, well, I'm offended by your hat.

I'm Jewish. Oh boy. And the guy was clearly, looked like he was as Arab as they come. So he is already. So Jewish people cannot be from the Middle East. Yeah, that is. Maybe he was Lebanese.

Yeah. Did he consider any possibility? Did you know that Jews do live in the Middle East, Alex? There's a large percentage of Jewish people who are Arabic or of Arab nations. That's silly of Alex and beyond that. All Jewish people are from originally Arab, Arab areas. Well, what about like, there's some European,

European areas. No, I mean, like way, way back. Oh, sure. Like genetically speaking. Well, I mean, if we want to play that game. Right. Well, that's a good point. That's a good point. You're not wrong.

But at the same time. Although, I think we were, people are saying it was Africa. Yeah, that's possible too. I don't want to get into that. Cause it's. I think it's time to get into that. It's irrelevant.

Let's, let's skip this break about the Halloween story and go into genetic history. Right. But so far, like this is a week later from the first time he tells a story. And already we have new things being introduced to it. The, are you a Nazi as opposed to,

is that a Nazi hat? Is that a Nazi hat? And then I'm offended by that. I'm Jewish. But he looks like an Arab. So that means it's. But he's already fleshed out these characters more in order to serve his purposes of the story.

Gotcha. That, or the context that he's telling the story in. Right. So back to it. I said, are you joking? He said no. And I saw, I went off on him. So now you're the aggressor.

And then as I said, I had another person come up to me. This would have to be the white guy. And do the same thing. And then I started talking to other people and they said, no, it was going on everywhere. Or if you weren't wearing a costume and this wasn't just at his party,

he had another party after it. The light and I went at a top floor of a bar and club. It was open to the public though. So now we have a fourth location that has been introduced. So now we have the boat. We have the restaurant bar. We have Buckley's rented out condo. In this story, we don't have a boat.

No, we don't. And we don't have necessarily the condo. No. We're saying he's rented out the top floor of a bar. Exactly. Which is very different than renting out a condo. Yeah. So either he's just misrepresenting thing.

One of these is not accurate. Or both. Or none of this is real. It's possible. Or Buckley, again, Buckley may not exist. This could be a fight club situation. The other thing that I'm allowing as a possibility is that all of this is true,

but not the stuff with other people. Like that Buckley not only rented out a condo, also rented out the top floor of a bar. So there's like seven parties in this night. Right. And they're doing blow. Of course. They're just going fucking.

Yeah. They're going hard. They're going crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's possible. Buckley likes to party, which is why he runs through wives so quickly. That's a possibility.

And because of Alex's lecherous hands. I love our running joke on how Buckley's been. It's my favorite. Poor Love Lorne, Buckley. That in Sandra Bullock is a Nazi. That's my other favorite running gag. I don't even remember how I'm supposed to respond to that. Watch it.

There it is. There it is. I don't think that's right anyway. And there were just people walking around going, I have white guilt. I can't believe we're wearing these outfits. It may be hurting someone's feelings. And my buddy Pat Riley heard this from some woman.

So Pat Riley, we've met on the show before. Pat Riley, the personal trainer. Oh, not the Miami Heat guy. No. Pat Riley, the personal trainer who went to Europe and probably cheated on his wife. As we remember him from the show. Horrible dirtbag shithead.

Yeah, he can go fuck himself. Then I was talking to somebody else that another man was walking around saying it. And then you realize, oh my gosh, we're in a cult, folks. These people are brain fried. You've got Hispanics, blacks, Asians, whites, everybody, probably 400 people on the top of a club outside with a DJ my cousin brought in.

And he's DJing as well. So Buckley is DJing. So wait, Buckley has invited 400 people? No, because he's rented out the top floor of a bar, the apparently maybe a rooftop bar, but it's also open to the public. Because Alex said that earlier in this clip. Okay.

Which I don't know what that means. I have no idea what that means. Usually when you rent out a place. It's a private affair. Yeah, it's not a thing where you can just, everyone can get in. And there's no way Buckley knows 400 people, period. Of different ethnicities.

Oh yeah. That seems, that's where my incredulity gets stretched. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I cannot believe that. But also, it's just important to stop it here and point out that Buckley is spinning the wheels of steel. Oh, Buckley. Buckley's on the ones and twos.

Buckley knows it's up. Yeah, probably mixing in some like, Afrika-Boombara stuff, you know, some old school shit. You could see Buckley up there, putting on like a shook ones part two. Really trying to bring the house down. Maybe some onyx. It's just that one song from,

I wanna live where jobs don't go to Mexico on a loop. The song from Gusset. Yeah, from Gusset. Yeah, yep. The American anthem for shitty random size pants. Yeah. Everyone gets pants and no one knows. So here we go.

Back to the November 9th version of the Halloween story. Gotcha. Everybody's having a great time, except for a handful of people walking around bugging everyone socially, but that's what they socially know how to do, is walk over and then try to make you uncomfortable and have you submit to them in some raw act of power.

So I don't believe any of that. Okay, so now we have the top of a roof, or the top of a bar that Buckley has rented out. 400 people. 400 people of all races, creeds and backgrounds, which Alex is totally fine with. Cause they all bleed red blood. Exactly.

And then now it is not just a Jewish Arab looking guy who says he's a Nazi. That's one player. Right, not just that. Then there's another guy and a girl walking around who won't wear costumes. No, no, no, no, no. There is another white guy who at some point

says the same stuff as the Arab guy, the Arab Jewish guy. And then in the original version, there was one sad white college girl who had so much white guilt. And now in the second version, everyone's running around. Not everyone, just a group of people. There's enough of them that everyone's weirded out by it. And they are making people uncomfortable

just by socially walking up to them and saying, I can't wear a costume. I have too much white guilt. First of all, this is, I mean, it's not true, but if it was, this party sucks. Yeah, it sucks. Why didn't you, why did you invite these people? I would beat a hasty retreat from this party.

Yeah, fuck that. I had a habit in college. Me and my buddy, Nicky Gifts, we would go and crash parties. Because I was charismatic enough and we'd be fucking hammered. We'd just go find a party and insinuate ourselves. Of course. And almost invariably, something would go wrong.

And I'd be like, Nick, we gotta get the fuck out of here right now. And that's what I would do if I was at this weirdo rooftop bar party where I'm like, I probably paid 50 bucks to get in here. Yeah. Totally a cover charge. There has to be a cover.

If it's a trendy high-end Austin bar where there's DJs on the roof and shit like that, I would just be like, I need a refund. Alex Jones is fucking being a dick in there. What am I doing? And so these people are walking around not wearing costumes because they're too filled with white guilt, but they can't stop bothering people

because they want them to submit. Yes. Alex Jones's theory. That's the premise. Gotcha. Also, he said it was the day before Halloween. So it was on the 30th. Yeah.

And actually, I'm looking back on the calendar from October, 2015. The 30th was a Friday. And oh, that's a great day for Buckley's birthday. Right. So I was just trying to get it in my head if it would make sense that people would dress up on the 30th.

Yeah, absolutely. If you got a Halloween weekend. Oh, yeah. I thought that there might be a possibility where it was like a Thursday or something like that. Yeah. Like anyone who's out, maybe they do the costume stuff on the Friday.

Yeah. Or whatever, but who cares? No, that's perfect. That checks out. So far, we have two things that check out. Alex Jones went outside. Yeah. And it was Friday, the 30th.

People probably dressed up. And the other thing I'm thinking is Alex is not sober. Absolutely not. So I don't, look, you've got to take everything sort of not at face value. Of course. And he's telling a story where he was probably fucked up and someone came up to him and was like,

hey, what's going on with that hat? What's up with your hat? He was like, you think I'm a Nazi? And he's a paranoid schizophrenic. So he has to be like, oh, they think I'm a Nazi. Right. And then the next morning when he's hungover, he's trying to recontextualize the story

of him being a dick to a stranger. Yeah. He has to be the victim, which makes him the hero later on. Right. Yeah. I vaguely remember talking to a Jewish Arab guy. Right.

All right. I'm casting him as the aggressor. Yeah. My audience. I wonder why. I wonder why. My audience is going to love that. My audience is entirely anti-semitic.

Yeah. So that was. My audience is mad at me for not being anti-semitic enough. Totally. Yeah. So this next. Might as well throw them a little Halloween bone. So the first version of the story, November 2nd.

Yes. November 9th. So you got a whole week in between those. Right. Which he should have actually written it down and maybe edited it and done the whole thing. Keep consistency. Yeah.

At this point, it sort of speeds up. Okay. The rapidity with which he tells this story increases. Because now we go to November 11th and he tells the story yet again. Okay. It's learning to equate everything with how you've been racially slided.

So you are a mental patient, basket case, drooling, neurotic. Does he not realize that he is talking entirely about him being racially slided? No. Where in his like, these people are a cult. They think everything is about them being racially slided. Which is why I'm mad that I got racially slided.

Which is why 80% of my show is about white genocide. Yeah. Okay. Alex, you got to figure some shit out. At the same time, I would like to tip my non-Nazi hat to him for every... Are you sure? I don't know.

I got accosted by 16 people outside. It's because you shaved the middle of your head, Friar Tuck. So I'd like to compliment him because he said drooling without following it up with mulling. Which is something that he does almost all the time. Drooling, mulling? Yes.

All right. That's no good now. That's no good. I don't like that at all. I have a story. Panic attack driven mess. And again, they've instituted a cultural revolution twice at my cousin's party.

Because part of it was out in public at a restaurant bar. Okay. I had people come over. So now we're... Now it's not a rented out thing. Now we're out in public. At the restaurant bar. Exactly.

As opposed to the roof of a bar that luckily has rented out. Right, exactly. Now the most Alex Jones apologist type people out there might be saying, hey, you know what? That bar that he rented out with the DJs and stuff. That could be the restaurant bar. Technically it is in public

and it could be the restaurant bar. I don't believe so though. Absolutely not. Cause he also described it as a club. Right. And the way... I've never been to a restaurant bar slash club. No.

And the way he's been talking about these individual places has been very different. Yeah. So now the accosting doesn't take place at the top of the bar DJ thing. It takes place at the restaurant. So now, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what point I'm trying to make.

Gotcha. Let's get back to it. Twice he's accosted again. Yeah. We're about my captain's hat and say, are you a Nazi? I'd be like, well, I don't know. Really?

I don't like that. I'd say, well, you can get out of my face. So now the other person is the aggressor. Right. The power dynamics have changed. And it is not... He does not specify... The Jewishness.

Exactly. He doesn't have any of those specificity pieces that he's added to the story. Cause now he's probably more talking about this in the context of white guilt on this episode. Not really. Okay. He's talking about liberal brainwashing, what have you.

But the reason he's telling the story or at least what he's trying to get out of it now becomes him being macho. So you'll see here why he tells the version of it that he tells here. You mean the political correct mind control garbage? And then they all grovel and get upset and go, yeah, there's not 15 people now to bully me.

And there was, I wasn't saying this obviously, you know, I'd love to hammer the heads in of 15 people trying to back me off. I'm not bragging that. That's just when I wake up is when the whole mob of scum wants to take me on. It's clobbering time at that point. Nicely done.

I'm just sick of these bullies. I'm sick of their garbage. So the context that he's telling it here is some guy cost like came up to him is like, what's up with there? You're Nazi. Like fuck you. And now the point is that if someone with this liberal

cultural revolution garbage comes up to you, you flex on them and they fall apart. Because they don't have 15 people around them. Right. Yeah. They don't have the gang that they need to back up their gang mentality. Yeah.

All of a sudden now they have to grovel too. But if that gang was there, Alex could still beat them up. Well, of course, it's clobbering time. Right. So the whole premise is different. It's insanity. So we. How many more versions do we have?

We just have one more. OK. Because on the 12th, he revisits the story on November 12. Wait, this is the next day. It is. OK. It is. He was running thin on things to talk about.

Yeah. That week was rough on him. Well, November 12 was the day that that general stubble bottom came on the show. Stubble bind. Yes, they did have that long interview. Get the dumb ass name right. I refuse.

OK. That was the day where they were having elaborate white death narratives and stuff like that. Yeah. $30 for a card. Yeah, for anti-vaxx cards. So here is where he's at on the 12th. And I experienced this on Halloween.

I don't go out when we celebrate Halloween. This is a cultic holiday. But I went to my cousin's birthday party. OK. And a war captain sat. And I had a white person and an Arab person come up and get in my face aggressively. And I was nice at first.

But then I would turn to him. And I got in their face. And I said, watch it, man. Don't push your Talitarianism on me. I said, so what if I am a Nazi? All right. Now, that's a very different question. Yeah.

That's a very different question. But it is sort of reminiscent of one of the versions where he said, why can't I dress up like World War II? Which is also a stupid way to phrase it, if we haven't gone over that. Yeah. So yeah, what if I am a Nazi? That would be that response.

How does he not know that's a bad idea? But that response is not germane to the other versions of his response, where he's been more, more. No, if he is dressed up like a Nazi, which he insists he's not. But if he was, that's totally fine. Sure. Then I'm pretty sure everybody is in the right saying, why are you dressed up like a Nazi?

Well, and. Even Alex kind of knows he's the bad guy in the story, right? I don't think so. I think he has to kind of have that suspicion. Because he's preemptively defending himself. It's true. To anybody complaining about him dressing up like a Nazi. To some extent.

In case there was a picture that came out. That might be, that might actually be accurate. Yeah. And also, clubs are dark. And Nazi officer hats are fairly similar to 30s policeman hats. That's true. It's not like. Well, 30s policemen kind of were Nazis.

There was a lot of infiltration. Yeah. But like it's not like a clan hood or something like that. That's really distinctive. Right. A fryer hat. So what if he was wearing a clan hood? Why can't he dress up like 30s clan members?

Why can't I dress up like the reconstruction? I'm just saying. Yeah. But like, you know what I'm saying? It's not like the Nazis had a distinctive hat, like many other groups have had over the years. Well, the SS did have great hats. Well, they had like the medallions and stuff like that.

Yeah. Beyond that, there wasn't like distinct. You get what I'm saying, right? Yeah. The shape of the hat. Right. It's not like a sombrero. It's not like a beanie or anything like that.

So what if he was wearing a beanie? Yeah, maybe. And had a little propeller on top. And had a fake dress. And they were like, wait a second, are you a Nazi? If I saw somebody wearing a beanie, I would insist they were a Nazi. Yeah.

That's just true. All right, let's get through this. So you know I'm not a Nazi. You know that's a captain's hat. You just want to act official, have me kiss your butt. Well, I'm not going to do it. And how dare you get in my face and imply I'm a Nazi? You don't have some moral high ground by getting in my face.

Now I suggest you turn around and you walk away fast. You do that. These people run. So. And I experienced so. So. Wait a second. So now.

The implication is that the guy ran away from him. Yeah. And now he's insisting that they think they have some sort of moral high ground. Well, just because they were like. That's the part of. Hey, you're dressed up like a Nazi. Right.

That's the part of the cultural revolution stuff. Right, right, right. That's part and parcel of all that. Yeah. So now I am 100% convinced he was wearing a Nazi hat. 100% he was wearing a Nazi hat. I mean, it's conceivable. I wouldn't be surprised if he had the SS lightning bolts

right here. He did it up real big. Oh, yeah, yeah. He was not just wearing a hat. I mean, it's possible. The only assessment I can truly give of this. Especially in the context of now, when we know he supports Nazis.

Doesn't seem like it. Look, my assessment is something happened. Yes, we can establish that for sure. And I think Alex was probably the asshole in the situation. 100% agree. And in order to make a point about political correctness or something or other, he's got the kernel of the story. Right.

And because it's not true, it keeps changing slightly over the period of November 2nd to November 12th. And because he thinks it's so illustrative of how brainwashed and stupid the liberals are, he has to keep going back to the well, not realizing that every time he goes back to it, he's revealing more and more that it's not real.

Yeah. So congratulations, Alex. If he was on the first 48, you would watch the first 48. And he's interrogated multiple times. Because he's also the guy who's like, I don't need a lawyer. Right. I'm going to tell you this story. He's totally convicted at the end of the episode.

My lawyer is named Buckley. He is also a DJ. Yeah. So anyway, let's wrap this up. That has been the adventure through Alex Jones's not true Halloween story from 2015. Where in we discover that Alex Jones dressed like a Nazi? Most likely.

There's no doubt. I don't understand why these guys are so obsessed with thinking they're the victim, even as he's like fucking insisting that he could beat the shit out of these people. Well, I mean, it's just a piece of his worldview. Like, it is this, we are the victims of all of these massive, impossible conspiracies.

Yeah. And also, everyone else should shut the fuck up about being victims. Right. It's just, it's pathetic. I mean, it's conservatism almost to a T. Yeah, exactly. Everyone's trampling over our old way of life,

the way we want to live, which happens to be intrinsically trampoline over other people. Yeah, exactly. We are the victims here. It's the argument of being intolerant about intolerance. It's just stupid. And that is where Alex Jones lives entirely. You hear it.

If you listen to his show as much as I did and all the stuff that we don't end up talking about on the episodes, so much of it is just that boring victim narrative. You know, I would love to, and it's not even, it's not even hypocrisy. It's stupidity. Like, it's just that they're not, You can be both.

Well, that's true. That is true. But it's like they're not capable of reconciling reality with itself. So they create this false, like it's the best way to put it. No, no, I think I know what you're getting at. Yeah. It's kind of like they think that their white Christian

sort of population is in some way supreme. I don't get it. It's almost as if they think that there's relative values between different races of people. What are you talking about? I think it's white supremacy. Huh? It's white nationalism, white Christian supremacy.

He was wearing a Nazi hat. He was. No, it's like they build, like the thing that is amazing to me is every single, like they have to keep building all of this shit on top of it. Because if they admit that one little thing doesn't make sense, like if he just admits like, you know what? I think this Jewish Arab guy is right.

The entirety of his worldview comes falling the fuck down. Like every little thing, every little piece is just you take away one little part of it and the entire foundation falls. Conceivably. That's why they keep coming up with more and more elaborate ways to describe themselves as victims. Because I want to play you a clip.

OK. Because I this is it. Buckley's DJ work? Wicker, wicker, wicker. No, this is a clip from the September 19th episode of this year, 2017. This was a clip I pulled for the episode that I did with Dan Dries that unfortunately suffered

immense technical difficulties. But I have the clips from that episode. Oh, by the way, I caused all of those. I was jealous that I couldn't be here. You had a voodoo doll for me. I had a voodoo doll. But in the shape of my internet. Exactly.

And it's not that voodoo's real. It's just that I put my energy into it and caused things to happen. Very straightforward. Voodoo doesn't make any sense. So in this clip, the reason I want to play this is because I think that it's really illustrative of a baseline belief of white supremacy

on Alex Jones' part. And I think it is something that is valuable and important for us to discuss, even if we can't go through all of these clips. But also, spoiler alert, they talk a bunch about Dennis Montgomery on that episode. Jesus. Yeah, great.

Bringing that shit back up. Wow. Balls on these kids. But this clip starts with him talking about how Hillary Clinton is going around saying that she needs funding for her organizations that are going to try and fight back against the Russian propaganda and what have you.

And what she should be doing is asking for funding. Giving us money. For her legal defense against Russian. Wait, no, that's Trump. That's Trump and his son who are using fucking R&C funds to pay for their legal defense against them lying about being fucking their Russian chills. It's a hot mess.

Yeah. But so that's how it starts. And then it gets into just, you'll see. All the MSM, all the major comedians, all the news and all of it and they're saying info wars is dangerous and that she needs more funding and we need to invest because they're outnumbered. But by the truth, by memory, dirt bag,

that I remember who you are. I know what you've done. I know what you stand for. I understand your operation and you can't stand it. Man, I did not hear about us. So we've got more on the bombshell folks. And as libertarians and patriots and conservatives and Christians, we don't like to brag,

but it didn't brag against an info war. We were right about the wiretapping. We were right about the whole thing. They now have to admit it because they're getting ready to use it in court. Well, yeah. The legal political wiretapping that makes Nixon look like a choir boy.

Nope. That's all coming up. We've got loaded guests today. Drunk. Massive censorship intensifying. I mean, the war is on. We got Comey lying. Say, nobody was being spot on.

We got everything. We got Clapper. We got Brennan. We got the Justice Department. We all got a pack of liars. Give three more examples. Let's say they're going to defeat America and they're not because America's better than you scumbags.

You're a big trophy hunter. Like these eugenicist racists. Or dungeon. You don't want to just mount the black people's head on your wall. You want to mount the white people's heads on the wall that are virtuous and aren't like you vampires. Oh, we're going to get you.

I know we are. Oh, I'm going to be angry. Ah. Oh, I tell you, we're going to break their will. You're not breaking our will. They can feel our will. That's why they're scared right now. You will never break my will.

You will never break my will. Never. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah. Take left. Yeah. Ah. Now.

No. It's about to step out. No, fuck you man. No. No, no, no. No, fucking no. Come on. That clip was perfect.

Jesus Christ. Bullshit. Oh, god damn it, Dan. You'd love doing that shit. I didn't edit that up. I know, but that's what you love. You love those clips. If you could, this entire show would be like,

check out this turn. It might be. It might as well be. I mean, how do you not? Well, because you're so fucking dumb. Like, not you. No, I know. He's so dumb.

I mean, I am, but I know you're dumb. He doesn't realize the optics of all this. I'm like, how rude am I? I'm never going to break my will. Now, it's time to get some money from you. Briefly, we sell water filters 50% off. Yeah, it's so crass and fake. But be that as it may, all that stuff that precedes it

is not fake on his part. That he slipped. He didn't mean to compare the relative value on air of blacks and whites. That's what I was just about to say. He just revealed his white supremacy wearing it. He's like, wait, you don't just want black people. You want white people to are virtuous.

I know it's like, dude, you're a fucking white supremacist. How dare you pretend otherwise? So now the reason that I called an audible and played this clip at the end of this episode is because you don't need a hat, motherfucker. You are a fucking Nazi. Nice turn. Thank you.

That's very good. So anyway, very smooth. Anyway, water filters are on sale. I am so mad about Alex Jones' bullshit. Also, we have new buttons. You can buy them at the store. Become a policy one. We have not figured out how to do that.

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Maybe we'll talk about it on another episode. Yeah, we're going to have to set up a store. No, no, no, no, no. I have a good idea. All right. I think this is going to work for everybody. Throw them at the moon. Yes.

OK. There we go. It'll be non-monetary. I have an idea. All right. We'll talk. OK. Look for that.

Why are you teasing this to me? Because we haven't talked about it. I don't want to fucking do a show meeting on air. Look, we need to figure this shit out right now, because everybody knows this is going to be the most interesting thing that we talk about. Anyway, if you want to go to our website, it's knowledgefight.com.

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And then there are other things that you can do. Absolutely. You know, there's one guy who doesn't make that turn, who just can't do it. He doesn't have the skill. Also, I don't think he dresses up for Halloween. I think he just dresses up like a Nazi for fun. I think he scares the kids that come to his door.

If he were to dress up like this. He's probably the guy who gives you an apple. I bet he's the guy who takes out his teeth every time you walk to the room. Or has a bowl of spaghetti and tells you it's guts or something. Look at all these skinned grapes, kids. Oh, it's eyeballs. Oh, yeah.

That's fucking awesome. If he did dress up like a Nazi, though, what would you want to say to him? I would say a goot and tog, you bitch. I don't know anymore. I don't know anymore. Oh, my god. Go fuck yourself, Dan.

And John Raffaboy? And John Raffaboy. OK. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan.

I love your work. I love you.