Lemonade Stand - We ONLY read Fox News this week | Ep. 071 Lemonade Stand 🍋

Episode Date: July 15, 2026

On this week's show... Aiden checks in on Congress, DougDoug checks in on housing legislature, and Atrioc checks in on our National Monuments. We launched a Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/lemon...adestand for bonus episodes, discord access, a book club, and many more ways to interact with the show! Episode: 071 Recorded on: July 14th, 2026 Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCurXaZAZPKtl8EgH1ymuZgg Follow us TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@thelemonadecast Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thelemonadecast/ Twitter - https://x.com/LemonadeCast The C-suite Aiden - https://x.com/aidencalvin Atrioc - https://x.com/Atrioc DougDoug - https://x.com/DougDougFood Edited by Aedish - https://x.com/aedishedits Thumbnail by Cheyenne DeWolf - https://x.com/cheyedewolf Produced by Perry - https://x.com/perry_jh Segments Segments 0:00 Intro 1:12 Fox News 4:18 Communists at World Cup 7:35 World Cup Comments 10:05 Mitch McConnell 13:06 Linsey Graham 22:46 Bipartisan Housing Bill 37:15 Trump Refuses to Sign Bill 40:14 Serval AI Ad 41:47 Iran War Update 56:13 Europe Bankrolls Russia? 1:04:16 Universal Vaccines Breakthrough 1:13:38 Trump Shrinks National Monuments 1:17:19 Sam Altman Selling 5% of Open AI 1:23:12 The Fox News Review 1:30:55 Outro New takes on Business, Tech, and Politics. Squeezed fresh every Wednesday. #lemonadestand #dougdoug #atrioc #aiden Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 AI on, risk off. Vanta.com slash TPR. Ladies and gentlemen, today is January 14th. It is 4 p.m. This is Lemonade Stand News. Today we are doing a hotly anticipated unbeknownst to them partnership with Fox News, where every single article and story today is coming directly off of the Fox News website. We are delivering the truth to you in a Lemonade Stand rebranding. Brandon, what have you been discovering as you've researched Fox News to learn about the world? Listen, on this show, we've had a problem in the past. we've been polling from a bunch of woke lib sources.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Financial Times, this is sometimes even multiple sources for different perspectives. Yeah, like this one, financial times, the main story today is some bold spit about IBM shares plunging. Who cares? Who? Go to the next one. New York Times, something about Trump's flip-flop on the straight of Hormuz, bias. Boring. Boring and bias.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And woke. And woke. And then on Fox News, which is where we're getting all of our sources today. Everyone is required to bring stories only that they can find through Fox News. The number one story in the world is that school deans give stunning answers when grilled on tense hearing on men giving birth. This is what's important. This is the big deal. Okay?
Starting point is 00:02:36 And if you scroll down, there's stories about how the Lord of the Rings director is going to have white people in it, which is a huge bombshell. And then... I've been worried. I'm worried sick. New York Times won't cover it. And then Kamala Harris is giving a speech to a WMBA team. These are the stories that I'm worried about. Okay?
Starting point is 00:02:54 So I did a quick exploration of the Fox website because I'll admit I've been out of touch on this great source. I haven't explored it fully until this week. But there's a plethora of information. And I believe you found what I found, which is a gold mine. A gold mine of information. So we're exploring the website. And one thing you'll notice is the U.S. category has four subcategories. There's politics, world, opinion, media, entertainment, sports.
Starting point is 00:03:22 The U.S. gets its own drop-down category. And if you click it, the options are, Blue City Crime, Campus Radicals, Border Crisis, and True Crime. Why is true crime in there? And there are only four categories. There is no fifth option. There is nothing else you can click. These are the four categories of all U.S. news.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And I know what you're thinking. Where do I click on the website if I want to? hear about maybe crime in red cities. They actually solved it this year. There is no crime in any red cities as of last year. I mean, maybe that would be under true crime, but unlikely, unlikely. I don't know, where do you put?
Starting point is 00:04:01 I mean, that's funny because blue city crime and true crime are separate. Isn't it implying the blue city crime is fake? Is it fake crime? Okay, okay. I just like that campus radicals is one fourth of all the U.S. Of all news. Right. And then, okay, so the big thing going on in the road now is the World Cup.
Starting point is 00:04:18 We talked about it last week. I will say we probably owe a Mia Copa to our audience because last week we did predict with certainty that Morocco would win the World Cup and they're already out. Another way of putting that is we would predict that France would lose, which is typically kind of incorrect. You need a long, yeah, we got there. So anyway, I thought, okay, let's check what's going on with the World Cup on Fox News.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I went to the sports section. There is no World Cup news in the key highlighted articles. There is a stat update at the top, but no World Cup articles. Until I searched World Cup into the search bar, and I got this. Kami Dems would destroy everything World Cup fans love about America. And I think you did a deeper dive into this, Doug. Oh, I'm knee-deep in this Fox News reporter, okay? David Marcus wrote this opinion piece.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Now, look, I'll say up front, we've got a variety of different stories today, including about things like Senator Lindsey Graham passing away or Mitch McConnell, not maybe passing away. Iran updates, interesting vaccine development, but all of these stories will be through the lens of Fox News. Now this one we're going to open with with just this is an opinion piece and I want to give you some of my favorite quotes throughout this article. Perry, if you pull this up. Two stories, quote, have captured
Starting point is 00:05:28 the attention of our nation over the last few weeks. One is the rise of communist candidates within the Democratic Party and the other is the zeal with which the European World Cup tourists have come to love America. Turns out these are related. Now this is actually a phenomenon that has been happening for people. It's like on Twitter and YouTube, I've seen various videos of like British guys like Joss and Jayze. I don't know how to say their names. This was recommended to me, this YouTube video of these guys talking about their experience at the World Cup in America and how it has defied their, you know, stereotypes what America is like. And so, quote,
Starting point is 00:06:00 if you look at what amazes Europeans about our great nation, they're almost all things that Marxists like Zoron Mondani would seek to destroy. What the Europeans love are road trips with cheap gas, big box stores, air conditioning, authentic small towns and free refills. These are all blessings of capitalism. When it comes to our giant stores, Europeans are treating trips to Walmart, Costco, and Buckees as if they are in a museum. It's like the Europeans are Charlie Bucket in Willy Wonka's Everything Factory. To cap it off, these marvels of 21st century consumerism are detested by the communists,
Starting point is 00:06:37 which is why New York City has no Walmarts. and make no mistake, if these people take national power, the entire country will have no Walmarts. Now, most of the comments, as you can imagine, are in strong, staunch support of this and attacking socialism. There's one comment from Op We-O-1, which says, I do not believe in the human-caused climate crisis. Where my house was built was a prehistoric ocean millions of years ago before humans even existed. Where did that ocean go? Climate changes are facts of the Earth cycle. So, um, now this is like an interesting phenomenon that is happening of at least on social media. I've seen a ton of, let's say Europeans visiting America and being like, this cool town is awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And that is genuinely a really cool thing. And one of the sentiments I heard, which I thought was heartwarming actually in this video by these two British guys, was them talking to Americans who were saying, this is before we lost in the World Cup, but who were saying, I hope the World Cup never ends because it feels like people are actually united under one thing right now and that we aren't back to like screaming at each other and divisiveness. there is a real sense of heartwarmingness, and I just hope the commies don't ruin it. Me too. Yeah, you know, it's funny. I saw these videos. I think the first wave of these videos was awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:47 The first wave was so cool, but then they got so popular that there's like this, there's people doing it obviously for likes. And then they pick up like a fucking piece of trash in America. They go, this is the coolest trash I've ever seen. And then a bunch of people will give it a million likes, and they're leaning it. It feels so pandering.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Have you been in a Walmart, though? It's hard not to just. It's somebody that chose Walmart. If you had to pick dystopian things I mean I guess it is It is a real product of capitalism To be fair
Starting point is 00:08:14 If you had to pick between the two I mean Walmart or like The Louvre Yeah I would pick Walmart Every day of the week Oh I know Walmart probably has groceries
Starting point is 00:08:24 If you could live in a Walmart Would you live there Instead of moving to Sweden? Like if they set up a little room for you Oh absolutely Absolutely If they set up a room in a Walmart You would live there over Sweden
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah I mean It has probably all the same perks Aiden, I believe you have a little story about the World Cup from Fox News. And I figure we touch on a brief World Cup update. You may be touching into this, tuning into this episode and looking for updates through the lemonade stand.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Well, Spain just defeated France 2-0. I did check out a small article on the website the other day, previewing the match. And I wanted to see what the fans and our listeners thought about the match. And there's just an array of excited opinions about the World Cup at this time of year. I really appreciated this one from John Doe 62.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Soccer is boring. When does NFL training camps start? Fucking. True. Amen. I will speak for the true patriots who are listening here. Fucking true.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Unironically, NFL so much better. Give me all the hate comments you want. I have watched the World Cup games. it is wonderful and delightful and the NFL clears it. Fucking give me your head. I don't care. I'm worthy. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I mean, original Templar tapped in and said, those don't look like France and Spain people. And there and back, there and back had to weigh in and said, many of the Switzerland team are definitely not folks that are from Sweden. So, Sweden.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Let's just, let's say many of the Switzerland team are not folks that are. from Sweden. Yeah. And then one of my favorites, uh, from user unions are communists by definition. Said, said, said. Oh, you found my account. You found my account. Yeah. I believe that's yours. Yes. I believe that's your username and a lot of sites. A lot of sites. It's a powerful username. A communist nation versus a socialist Nazi nation. I hope their fans see the promise of opportunity of freedom. Go home and work to fix their countries with a capital C. And I read that comment.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I was like, one, God, I'm so happy this event's bringing so many people together. And two, I made me think which one of them is the communist nation and which one of them is the socialist Nazi nation? Oh, of Spain and France? Between Spain and France. That's a great question. But I do not want to waste any more time on this globalist event or globalist news. I want to hear what's happening here in America. and what might be happening to one of our most well-established senators, Mitch McConnell.
Starting point is 00:11:12 We're going to throw it over to A-Rock to talk about one of our top living senators. So that's what I thought. We like to talk about people who are alive on this show. Go ahead. Eighthers are people that are alive. Dead people won't talk about them. Not interesting. It's not interesting to us.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And before we started this Fox News journey, one of the top stories I heard rumblings about was there something with Mitch McConnell. So once we got Fox News only, that was the call. I was like, let me search on, let me search on here and find out. Here's the thing, this is a weird thing that I noticed. If you search for Mitch McConnell, they will talk about his prolonged absence, but only through the lens of AOC. Every single Mitch McConnell article on Fox News,
Starting point is 00:11:54 make sure to do it through the lens of AOC thinking it's weird or bad. And then when I go to the comments, they're just mostly about how AOC is what about, whatever problems are with Mitch McConnell and how she doesn't get in touch with her district at all and how she had to get a go fund me to get an apartment and how she was saying how Biden was brain dead
Starting point is 00:12:16 or didn't know that Brian was brain dead. So here's as far as I can tell because they kind of bury it underneath the AOC stuff is that Mitch McConnell has been missing in action for over a month from his Senate duties. And recently, after many people asking what the hell was going on,
Starting point is 00:12:33 posted a proof of life photo of him holding today's paper, but has not been... Oh, did? You posted a photo? Well, someone posted a photo of him with his wife holding today's paper. Okay. Which is a good thing for a senator to do, so you know they're alive.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Right. But has not been seen... Are the eyes open in the photo? He's squinting. Maybe we can find the photo. So I guess we can't look at the photo unless it's on Fox News. Yeah, I couldn't find it on Fox News, but he is seemingly alive,
Starting point is 00:13:02 but has not been voting or showing up for senatorial duties. And there is growing action. Now, what's interesting is, even according to these articles, some Republicans have spoken up against that, like wondering what the hell is going on, including Thomas Massey before he's on his way out. And those are not mentioned. Only AOC is mentioned as the one lens.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Well, she is the predominant figure commenting on the news. It only makes sense. So, yeah, I don't know. I guess I'm interested in it. You know, Mitch McConnell not being able to vote right. There's the photo you can see. Oh, he's smiling. He's trucking.
Starting point is 00:13:40 He looks alive. He's cooking. No, he's definitely a lot. I mean, he's got the paper. That being said, could theoretically taxidermied. There's no movement. Mitch McConnell's wife is weakened at Bernie. Yeah, she's like got a puppet string back there.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I don't know, Mr. McIntynell does insist that he is going to serve the remainder of his term, which ends in 2027. So, uh, healthy as an ox, I assume. Fantastic. But you know who's not healthy as an ox? Yeah. Lindsay Graham. How unhealthy is he? Over to Aden for our next living. I shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:14:19 That's right. As it turns out, Lindsay Graham has passed away rather unexpectedly due to a tear in his aorta. Uh, and reflecting upon this, on Fox News, lots of articles about his rocky relationship with Trump over the years and how it transformed into one of... Rock solid friendship? Rock solid friendship. I thought it was really interesting because the article that I was going through on Fox News really, really told you the full story of how much they didn't like each other. And within the context of this Republican senator passing away, this article spends a
Starting point is 00:14:57 remarkable amount of time giving you. Oh, he doesn't. Like literally, giving you the shitty things that Trump has said about him historically. Really? Does it include the things that Lindsay Graham said about Trump? Yeah. So, their,
Starting point is 00:15:10 their relationship started a long time ago when they're running for president, uh, in the Republican primary at the same time in 2015. Long time ago now. And Graham, uh, Lizzie Graham, you might remember once likened Trump's potential candidacy,
Starting point is 00:15:24 uh, to being shot in the head. and Trump nine years ago he also mentioned to a crowd in South Carolina at one point that Graham was a quote disgrace in quote
Starting point is 00:15:38 one of the dumbest human beings he's ever seen I Trump adding I don't think he could run for dog catcher in this state and win again this is all from the Fox News article this is Trump's
Starting point is 00:15:52 Trump continuing I really don't other than that I think he's wonderful That's the same quote. For audio listeners, we're looking at photos of them like hugging and smiling and giving thumbs up together in the background. Packaged between these quotes. Later on, Trump at one point getting so angry with Graham that he leaked Graham's phone number online.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Wait, really? Yeah. Wait. Is it clear that in the article? What? It is like death article? Dude, this is all over the article. Trump leaked his phone number because he was mad at him.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yeah. What's your phone number again? It's... Don't mute it. Don't bleep it. And your address is... Okay. But it's interesting because after settling into that first term,
Starting point is 00:16:48 you know, Graham tried to build up a more positive relationship with Trump at the time, seemingly successfully so. And that's where the strength of their relationship started to form. However, January 6th in 2021 when the riots occurred on Capitol Hill. Graham, and it is interesting because it did say riots in the article. Really? Which surprised me. In the Fox News article, it said riots. I don't know they're getting woke. Graham turned his back on Trump, quoted saying, Trump and I, we've had a hell of a journey. I hate to end it this way. Oh my God, I hate it.
Starting point is 00:17:23 From my point of view, he's been a consequential president. All I can say is count me out. Enough is enough. That's right after January 6th. And this is right after January 6th. But upon Trump's, upon Trump's re-election. Enough was not enough. And you know, the one thing that I remember Lindsey Graham for
Starting point is 00:17:42 is that he loved to rebuild relationships with people that he just felt sour about. And Trump also, interestingly enough, remembering Lindsey Graham as of the past couple days, had also said that reflecting upon Lindsay Graham's career in life. He had one bad moment in the January 6th thing when he stood up. All right, now I've had it.
Starting point is 00:18:08 That's it. I can't do it anymore. Then he called me about 40 minutes later and said, did I really say that? I can't believe it. And he took it back. So I give him a 99.9.9 instead of 100. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:18:20 In response to his death, he said that? It's like yesterday. Dude, it's crazy. I got a Lindsay Graham quote here from his social media from 2016 where he said, if we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed and we will deserve it. And then I'm looking at your article here. I want to thank the big guy God, Graham said during a speech last month. Trump comes later.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Mr. President, you're not far behind God, but we're going to start with him. Well, the thing is, the thing is, to his credit, by the time he said that and had won that Senate race again, Graham had already 180ed his support on Trump during into the second term kind of walking. Well, apparently you won 80 and 40 minutes later, according to Trump. Very quickly. Which is great. He did call me. This isn't public. Grams has never said this, but he did call me and retract it right after. And during the second term, he's been like one of the leading advocates for the one big, beautiful bill as the Senate budget committee chair. And he also championed Trump's flagship election integrity legislation,
Starting point is 00:19:21 the Save America Act. And for those who don't know, that act is meant to provide deeper citizenship verification on voter rolls nationwide. It's also meant to require that states share their voter roles in a federal database, which I'm sure will have no negative consequences. And generally more strict photo ID requirements from enforced by the federal government for all in person and absentee voting across the states. And Graham was one of the biggest supporters of this bill trying to push it forward for Trump. Because, you know, other than the two times that he's, you know, publicly denounced him in the past and said that he hates him. Yeah. He's been very supportive. Yeah, yeah, of course. Uh, and I, I thought that was a
Starting point is 00:20:07 beautiful, I thought it was a surprisingly beautiful and nuanced recap of their relationship over the years. Heartwarming. It really spent, like, a remarkable amount of time on the negative things that granted it's like, it's like, he fucking hated it. What are the comments say? I'm actually interested. Do they at, can you scroll? Yeah, this is the top. Comment. Okay. So the top two comments, which are both from the same account on this article, are, quote, Trump's a race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot. He doesn't represent my party. He doesn't represent the values that the men and women who wear the uniform are fighting for. Lindsay Graham, December 8th, 2015. So I gave that American flag and a fire react because it shows
Starting point is 00:20:52 people can change and learn and grow. Lindsay Graham was foolish in 2015. He adapted, he learned, he grew. What would you say, maybe either you guys know this, are the most notable things that Lindsay Graham was known for, for people who are maybe not as tapped in? Lindsay Graham was extremely focused on American interventionism worldwide. He's a very, he's like, he's anti-isolationist. He really wants to.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Very pro-support Ukraine, pro-support Israel. Isn't he pretty like classically, My mental image of him is like the classical idea of like a neo-con. Yeah. He fucks with the war. We should have a military and we should use it for American strategic interests constantly. It's like a Lindsey Graham. I mean, he died coming back from Ukraine, which by the way, I'm personally in support of America helping Ukraine. But he was flying out.
Starting point is 00:21:46 He's trying to get this big sanctions bill passed on Russia. And I think they're also including Iran in it now. It's interesting. because that's one of my follow-up stories later about how he was leading the leading the charge on that. Also source from Fox News. There's a great, okay, I apologize for using woke resources, but from the Atlantic, there's a quote from Lindsay Graham.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not, I can't listen to that. All right. Aish, go ahead and just bleep out the entire next one minute of quote. So Graham was asked why he is so bold about asserting himself in foreign policy. So he says, quote, I was first elected to the house, I looked for the they, they who run things, they who know how things really work, they who know what they're doing, but I couldn't find the they. I went to
Starting point is 00:22:33 the Senate, but there was still no they. Then I started to get invited to the White House and to close door briefings and to meetings with top officials. No they. What I finally realized he concluded is that there is no they. There's only we, and we usually don't know what the fuck we're doing. That's so not comforting. I mean, this reflects my experience in every like corporate gig ever, which is that from the outside, you're like, why are they doing? Why are they doing? And then you get inside and you're like, oh, this place is a cluster. It's duct tape. Everybody is just improvising as they go and really there's no idea of what's going on. So, you know, took that and then, you know, see grabbed it by the, uh, reading about Lindsay Graham.
Starting point is 00:23:12 There was a tribute to Lindsay Graham written by Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel who said that he was saying that Israel needs to wean itself off of, you. US funding. And he's like, I'm going to get rid of it. And then he said, my good friend, Lindsay Graham came up to me and shook my head and said, no, no, don't. You have to take the funding. That's awesome.
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Starting point is 00:26:18 and you had one, I think you found through Fox News. Very funny that Mitch McConnell is alive, but let's get something serious. More serious. All right. So the 21st century Road to Housing Act just finished. And from Fox News, quote, Trump takes an unusual step and lets a bipartisan housing bill become law unsigned amid save pressure campaign.
Starting point is 00:26:36 So this actually ties into what you were just saying. Trump has been pushing along with others for the Save America Act, I believe is the name, which is all about like voter ID and such. She's doing a huge, apparently, I found some Fox News literally. There's going to be a nationwide televised address. Thursday night for him stumping for election interference and needed for the Save ID Act. So it's a big push coming up to the midterms. Right. So I will give an overview of what this is and then give you the truth, which is the quotes from Fox News. So this is like an actual good story of like our
Starting point is 00:27:13 politicians did a thing that everybody wants, which is great. So earlier this year, we started voting the Senate and the House on this bill, again, called the 21st century Road to Housing Act, although it's taken multiple forms from both sides. This is genuinely bipartisan and has a whole bunch of different things that are going to help improve housing in various different aspects of the country. In June, the House voted 358 to 32 to pass this. And in July, just now, the Senate voted 85 to 5. You'll notice that doesn't add up to 100 because some senators just don't show up to work. For some reason. The Mitch McCullough, he just doesn't show up to work. It doesn't say anything. Just to be clear, that the reason, you know, someone getting sick when they're old is not the problem.
Starting point is 00:27:55 The problem is that he literally disappeared for a month and didn't say anything until so much pressure built from both sides of the aisle that he had to post a proof of life. And he just, there was no investigation, no follow up, nothing. You just stop showing up as a leader of the, anyway, sorry. Yeah, it's, it's a little silly. It's cool that the people who represent us and do our laws and use our money don't have to show up to work actually. Or say anything or anything. There's no accountability. Most people can
Starting point is 00:28:22 take some time off work without saying it. Your fucking office. Every time you tell us about how mogul moves is run. Wait, wait, wait. You think I'm talking about me? I have to tell people that I'm taking time off. I think just most people. You think most people.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I think Luddway told me he thought you were dead for three months because you went on a trip to Sweden and didn't say a damn thing. Oh, that's because Ludwig doesn't check his phone. That's true. You weren't texting. Okay. All right. So this bill, I'm going to give some, I think, most interesting pieces of it that I found. Um, but first, I heard good things about it. Fox News, what I was saying? I heard good things about this bill. Yeah. But I heard that Trump was temporarily blocking it, refusing to sign it. Yeah. The bipartisan policy. dot org has a good like explainer of the many different things in it but there's there's a lot and they're kind of hard to piece so i will highlight a couple of these and i think it hopefully will
Starting point is 00:29:18 become clear why this is fairly bipartisan across the board everybody's realizing housing is a real critical issue the bill has like a hundred different things that it is addressing this is not like suddenly housing is going to pop up everywhere but it's tackling a lot of different things here's a couple really core pieces one there is a federal environmental review that we have called nepa the national environmental policy act. And basically, if the housing and urban development department is contributing money to a project that's being built, you have to get cleared by them for environmental review. I'm simplifying this slightly. But that's on top of local and state review. And this can add months and a whole lot of money to a project. Nixon P. Body is who I read, they're the law firm
Starting point is 00:29:57 that kind of gave an overview of this particular thing. So the idea with this bill is they're now going to give some carve outs and say, hey, for certain types of projects, not for everything. If you're doing like a massive project, you still need to get environmental review. But if you, for example, are making affordable housing and the government is helping fund that, that's most likely going to be exempt now and you get to move through your process faster. If you're constructing infill housing, which means like in a city, if there's a plot that is unused or it's currently not being used in some way, and you want to convert that into usable housing, like build something, that now is no longer going to have to go through as much process on the federal level. Rehabilitation
Starting point is 00:30:33 projects converting office buildings to residential developments, there's a bunch more. So this part of it doesn't suddenly make housing appear. But if you think about, like most housing built in America is not federal. Listen, I'm a 72 year old Fox News loving boomer own my own home. Well, you're a little older than that, but I'm a look 72. You look at your 72 looking at you. I'm a youthful 72. You look a young 72 now. I'm a young 72. I own my own home. I bought it through hard work and grit for $120,000 in the 70s.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Absolutely. And it is appreciated. Am I hurt by this in any way? No. Okay, so here's the pitch for this. Because I'll get real angry if I am. And that's fair. And that's fair.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And Trump has said repeatedly that he wants to make sure that people's home values don't go down. If the Department of Housing and Urban Development is not going around making the suburban homes that you probably bought. Okay. These types of projects are things like affordable housing that are hard to get built
Starting point is 00:31:38 because by definition, you are selling the homes for cheaper, right? They're not going to build these affordable housing units near. They're not going to be near my house, right? Well, you're not in a city, which probably you aren't. You're probably in... I'm in the burbs. Good. And I'm happy with it. Yeah, there are... So not, just to be clear, they're not going to be near his house. Because I
Starting point is 00:31:54 don't even want to see them on my drive. I don't... You know what? I'm going to have to do... The Fox News article didn't go in-depth on whether my drive will have. Actually, where does he live again? And then we can check this off, A. Oh, let's not include any specifics. So it does look like on that it should be clear of the affordable housing. Black box over the mouth too. I don't want anyone showing up at my damn place of residence. The reason this stuff is important is not because of the person buying a new
Starting point is 00:32:29 home in a suburb, but because projects like affordable housing are the most likely to need federal assistance, right? And these regulations were making that like even more prohibitive to build and that is now clearing that. So the type of building that is most likely to need funding assistance is the type that's being cleared for this. I have a question. This is a question I don't know the answer to. Yeah. There was this fight. This passed overwhelmingly with the votes. Trump said, I'm refusing to sign it because I want you to pass the Save Act first for voting. Yeah. Then I heard it passed anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So is this law? This is how. This is law. This just passed. So I'll get to that piece in a second. Yeah, yeah. So I'm describing the bill and then we will say, did it pass or not? I mean, the answer is yes, but in a weird way, it passed. So I will highlight two more quick things that are like, cool, this is great. Well, kind of. One is we banned institutional investors from buying homes. Quote from Trump, homes are for people, not corporations. He personally pushed for this. And that is beast and cool, right? Except it's only for large institutional investors who have three.
Starting point is 00:33:35 350 or more family homes. So I think it's a real easy villain to say that institutional investors like Blackstone are buying all the housing. And that's not really true. So if you pull this up, Perry, this is from totality. Not Fox News. This is your source. This is bullshit. Woke.
Starting point is 00:33:56 But this is looking at the actual investors who buy homes. I'm getting a little uncomfortable because this is a source that I just am not familiar. this source, but I'm willing to hear you out. I like that we've stayed true to one so far. Like that's been really easy for me. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm like I'm gonna hear you out, but I'm also in my head thinking, not Fox News, right? Like, it's like a little bit. Think of what I'm doing right now is building a giant steel man that will dismantle with the comments. Okay. Great. Just just start like putting in bullets to strike all of this down. Okay. Um, even though this is something Trump personally supported. Um, okay. So if you look at this,
Starting point is 00:34:31 Right now in 2025, in terms of every year, the number of homes that are bought by investors rather than like single families, it's about 30%. So 30% of new homes. That's a significant number. It is a significant number. That's a lot, right? That's totally fair to criticize. And you can see here, it's basically fluctuated up and down that the pink line is the non-investor purchases as in like, you know, families and then the investor purchases has been here. But if you look at what investors actually breaks down as, the large and mega investors, these are the companies that have a hundred homes or more, they're only actually buying about 5% of homes every year in total.
Starting point is 00:35:13 It's actually the medium and small investors that are buying like 25% of it. So to put this simply, the vast majority of, quote, investor purchases of homes are actually by, really small landlords. It's by people who have like one to 10 homes. That's the vast majority. And you pull it down. I've heard this. I heard like Airbnb flippers are a much larger percent than like a black run. People buy a bunch of these and they try to rent them out and then. Yeah. So of the 86 million single, this is from batch data. Of the 86 million single family homes in the USA, 20% are owned by investors. But of that 90% are by small investors. Only 2% of all housing is owned by these big investors. And as a mom and pop investors,
Starting point is 00:35:55 owns 349 homes. I'm a little worried this is infringing on my right. I add two more. I'm a mom and pop investor with 248 homes and I'm actually not worried at all. Right. Well, you've got some wiggle room, but I'm approaching my cap here. And like I'm a simple man
Starting point is 00:36:14 who wants to own 400 homes. And I don't understand why. There's funny ins and outs with this, right? Because on paper, his quote and outlook on this is actually a positive thing. I think there's the issue of like to what scale is this problem or reality. I think even if the percentage is small, you can find instances of a institution like BlackRock.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Forgive me, this is not from Fox. So tread carefully. Yeah, I'm trying. BlackRock controlling a housing supply in a specific area or like a park of like small homes or the majority of homes in like a town. So they're able to influence the market in that particularly, particular area in a really negative way, even if they don't have the major,
Starting point is 00:37:00 like a significant stake in homes when you consider the national market. That makes sense. Quick correction. I think you're thinking of black stone. Excuse me. Yep. Doesn't, not black rock.
Starting point is 00:37:08 But yes. But then you look at the actual function of this law and if we were to reconcile with the data that you just presented us, I think you have to start cracking down on people's purchases of like second and third homes, which is a much more common occurrence.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I mean, even, like, I think it'd be way easier to point to, like, you know, parents or grandparents in our lives that, like, own multiple properties in multiple places and the influence that that has on the broader market. And the regulation
Starting point is 00:37:43 that is coming through this bill is not influencing that at all. Of a housing buyer keeps going up. I just think they have all the money. So it's, like, not, like, they have three or five, four homes because that's they have more money they have all that yeah I would actually I'd be more concerned
Starting point is 00:37:58 about the medium size because of that number we looked at like 13% of homes are being bought by people who have 10 to 100 houses and that's the point where that's not your summer home anymore like you have 40 homes like you know that's well that's not just like a wealthy boomer who saved up and worked hard with the I would argue
Starting point is 00:38:16 who doesn't know somebody that has 12 homes but like all in the same area could be your wrong could be your nephew. People in your life. Someone has 40 homes and they're being harmed by laws that crack down on that. Yeah. So what's interesting about this is this going to be hugely impactful? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I heard wait. Is there zoning stuff in there? I heard the best part of this bill or one of the best part of this bill is that it's like has a carrot and stick thing for states or local governments to reform their zoning. Yes. Okay. So yeah, third thing to highlight, there's two things. There's a new fund that they're adding, which is like $200 million a year that's going to go to localities that actually increase the amount of housing permits or completions. And then also the community development block grant is like $3.3 billion that is spent every year to help with building.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And now there's more avenues for where that goes. But they are going to score how much money you get based on the zoning changes you've done or how many buildings you've actually made. So what's notable about this is not that it's like a crazy amount of. money, but it is more that we passed a thing at the federal level that instead of saying, we're going to give you a ton of money to explore the idea of more housing. Instead, it is you get money if you actually do the fucking thing. And there's going to be, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars for that first one, billions in the second one that are now explicitly being tied to outcomes, which I think is fantastic, because that's been a major problem and theme that
Starting point is 00:39:47 we've seen recurring in the various books that we've read. And to say like, hey, look, you just got to get stuff actually made should be what this money goes towards. To be honest, I spent two or two and a half hours maybe like reading through it's it's not like a bombshell. I think it's more it's hitting in small ways many different aspects. There's things like getting lowering restrictions on modular housing being built that were in place which felt really weird and arbitrary. There's more stuff for veterans. There's a whole bunch of pieces of this that are hitting thematic things in small ways. It's not the housing is fixed now, but it is a bipartisan. This is helping. This is helping. alleviate pressure in many different areas.
Starting point is 00:40:24 There's a ton of them. I think it's great. Like it is, and again, super bipartisan. Like almost everybody was on board with this. So now let's go to what happened with Trump.
Starting point is 00:40:32 So this passes, again, with flying colors. This is very unusual in our modern legislative system to get something like this pass. Elizabeth Warren is one of the authors. It's like two Republicans
Starting point is 00:40:42 and two Democrats. And they're all being like, this is amazing, and it passes and all the yimbi people are celebrating and whatnot. It goes to Trump's office for signature. Of course, he's going to sign it. And then he says, quote, this is from Fox News now, real truth.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I will not sign the housing bill, which has been fully approved by Congress and sent to the White House in protest over the fact that the United States Senate is not capable of passing the Save America Act, which has polling at 97% with the Republican Party and very high with the non-politician Democrats. He declared on truth social Friday morning. Trump went on to call the housing bill, quote, a big yawn, adding compared to the Save America Act, just about everything is a big yawn. And at one point, he called Senator Warren Pocahontas again, like on a different true social thing. Well, you, you sprinkle a song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he called it the Pocahontas.
Starting point is 00:41:32 He called it the Pocahontas bill despite it being bipartisan and she was one of four authors. So this was sort of a shock to a number of people being like, oh my God, we passed a big housing bill. This is fantastic. We're focusing on the right things now. And Trump doesn't sign it because he is trying to basically use this as hostage to force the Senate to pass the save bill. And so what did he end up doing?
Starting point is 00:41:55 I've never heard of this before. As we see in the headline here, he took an unusual step. It turns out that instead, you have a third option. You could sign the bill. You could veto the bill. Or you could just ignore it.
Starting point is 00:42:06 And if you ignore it, according to the Constitution, after 10 days, it does become law. So he just ignored it, and it is now officially law as of, I believe, yesterday. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Isn't that awesome? I thought you had to signer. veto. I didn't know there was a... I thought not signing was a veto. That's what I always thought. I thought by not signing. That's the veto. That's the veto. Uh, no, a vetoing is writing veto in all of the caps bubble letters on the bill. From two outspoken one. No, this is in the comments. No Democrat would have been big enough to do what Trump did. He disagreed for the most valid reasons, but he did not stop it from becoming law like the petty authoritarian Democrats would have done. He did what the majority wanted, not what he preferred. Even though, oh, and then, Biden screwed America and Harris's best accomplishment was her cackle.
Starting point is 00:42:55 That doesn't... Wait, if he didn't sign it, it is functionally a veto, but it passed because they had enough... They passed the two-thirds majority that you need to like supersede. Oh, it is a veto. He didn't veto it, but if he did veto it, it would have passed anyway. Yeah, they could have done. Yeah, they would have the majority to force it through. So he just, it was just this kind of weird, symbolic dance that he did.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I have never heard of this of a president, just not. I guess it's a weird protest of being like, I'm going to eat my veggies, but I'm going to frown the whole time while doing it. Very strange. It's very strange, I think, to do this on a bill that everyone likes. You know, I shouldn't say everyone. 90% of legislators like and then seemingly kind of piss off everybody, but whatever. The fact that he let it through is great. This law is in.
Starting point is 00:43:44 It is good. It is good momentum. It is not saving the world, but it is some bipartisan stuff that slowly moves us in the right direction. I'm really glad this got through. I think, it's nice to have such a solid base for stories all in one platform like this. And a story that's been confusing to me recently
Starting point is 00:44:05 has been the Iran War. Because I tune it. I open the New York Times. They got a different headline about it every day. It's open. It's closed. It's open. It's closed.
Starting point is 00:44:16 We shot some people. They shot us. What is that? What is Fox News? Have to say about this. Make up your my New York Times. New York Times. Stop telling me like it is.
Starting point is 00:44:26 And give it to me straight. Yeah, give it to me straight. I want someone to explain to me what Fox Moose has to say about the Iran War. And ideally through a headline and not through substantial information. Okay, the Iran War. So the Iran War has been a big piece of news lately and I wanted to figure out what was going on through our news source Fox News. So I went back and I looked how they've covered this Iran war throughout the Iran war throughout the news. Iran war through every stage of the process.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Good. So back in March, Iran is losing this fight. Do we have a again? Losing this fight tremendously. Got that. Iran's under mounting pressure. Epic Fury advances. Reagan's style peace through strength is back.
Starting point is 00:45:05 March 12th. This Iran war is closer to its end than it's beginning in April. Okay? Later April, the Iran regime is at war with itself at this point. That's nice. So we're off the hook. Yeah, if it's a war, it's only between themselves. Then by June, they've, they've,
Starting point is 00:45:20 agreed to give up their nuclear weapon ambitions. So let's look like the military strike worked and now they're giving up. Then we're forecasting an Iran deal by June 8th. Then they're confident on the deal progress by June 23rd. Okay. Then in July, Trump is touting very good meetings even as Iran threatens key shipping lane. And they're not mentioning Hormuz for the first time. Then the ceasefire is over.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Then we're back to blockading their ports again. again. Then, as of today, art of the deal, we've hit Iran with a brutal reality check as we announced an oil partnership with their neighbor. So the truth matter is, I don't know if you guys, we talked about this before the show. During the Iran War, we did a second blockade of their blockade. Then we had negotiations. We got rid of that blockade. And we're like, okay, you can send oil out. So the Iranians did send oil out, 80-something million barrels. There was a lot of money for the Iranian regime because we had a good faith ceasefire agreement deal. out there was no deal.
Starting point is 00:46:22 They just got a bunch of money. And now Trump is mad that they're still not opening Hormuz. And so he's striking them again. When asked whether it was a good idea to, I guess, go all in on this deal and give a bunch of money to the person you're fighting in a war, this is a Fox News question. Let me see if I have this right here.
Starting point is 00:46:40 This is what he said. Do you have any regrets about lifting the naval blockade or giving the sanctions waivers? No, I gave them a chance. I wanted to give them. them a chance at making a deal. You know, we had a deal two days ago. It was done. And then all of a sudden, they couldn't do it. They didn't like something about the deal.
Starting point is 00:46:58 They couldn't do it. And they shot first, and that was a big mistake that they shot first, because we have been knocking the hell out of them. They're very difficult people. 47 years we put up with it. The SS call. You go back all the way. Thousands of people, thousands of Americans were killed. A lot of soldiers were killed. A lot of soldiers are walking around.
Starting point is 00:47:20 We're not walking around. I mean, they've been so badly injured. Wait. He's talking about the SS Corps for you, 47 years ago. With the Salamani with the bomb. They call it the roadside bomb. Most people call it the roadside bomb. It's a disaster. And I killed him in my first administration. Had I not, it might be a different story today. He was a mad genius. He was a mad, probably a mad man, but he was a general and he had total control over the country. And I actually think the leaders of Iran were afraid of Soleimani. But I killed him. And by the way, with him went a very bad person also. They happened to be meeting each other at the airport. Okay. This goes on. Okay. This is him giving the latest and greatest on what's going on.
Starting point is 00:48:11 But the key is that he... That actually does not sound like the latest. Yesterday, I saw the latest. No, it's not. Yesterday, he said, okay, the new or the uh the second blockade is back on and america will be charging a 20% reimbursement fee to make up for our war effort uh so everything going through this is the straight has to pay us 20% of what they're making you have a well if you're really tapped into fox news like i am and you were checking updates on the story right before we've recorded yeah the 20% fee's gone baby they pulled the fee okay and they've replaced it with when the ship goes by they turn around an iPad that says give the U.S. a tip.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Yeah, it's just all, it's, they do it on square now. No, I mean, you can see it here. They're replacing it with, he talked to Middle East leadership, and instead they're going to invest more in America, which accounts is like, that's our fee. Well, he said, based on highly productive conversations with Middle East leadership, I have decided to replace the 20% United States, United States reimbursement fee with trade and investment deals
Starting point is 00:49:16 that the various Gulf states will be making into the United States. Okay, so let me make sure I'm understanding what's going on here. We are blockading Iran now and nothing gets through the Strait of Hormuz. And if it does get through, though, they have to invest in America, but also Iran is still sending drone attacks at them. So what I thought was funny from the Fox News report is the underlying basis for this is Trump is like, we have taken all of this action in this region of the world and it's provided so much benefit
Starting point is 00:49:53 to everyone that we've done this and all these other countries need to pay us back somehow that's the quote in the Fox News like video from this morning is like he that's the reason for the fee he's like we've done so much good work here it's time to start getting paid back if I like blew up your neighbor's house
Starting point is 00:50:13 and they started getting generally upset the whole neighborhood. I don't know that you owe me money. Well, you do. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Box also did say that Trump, he said he pulled back the 20% fee because he believes in the principle of free trade on these waters.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Okay. Great. And we just need this investment deal as a replacement because we do need to be paid back for the. Of course. Okay. So I feel like I'm missing something here. Isn't, wasn't the straight still not usable when Iran was attacking ships even when we
Starting point is 00:50:44 had the blockade? is the idea that we're now like personally escorting ships through and stop there was nobody going through the blockade because there was two blockades at once. Okay. Then there was a brief ceasefire for this deal to get made. Trump, I guess, jumped the gun on this ceasefire and said, straight of horrible moves is open for business.
Starting point is 00:51:00 People started stealing through without paying Iran any money or tolls. They shot them. It was realized that it wasn't really open for business. Okay. Trump in response said, fuck you guys, there is no deal. It never was a deal. I never trusted you guys to begin with.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Yeah. However, during the time that was open, Iran did ship out 80 million barrels of oil and made a ton of money. So it was open basically only for them. Apparently, apparently Iran's explanation for breaking the deal is that within the deal, it says like, to the best of our efforts,
Starting point is 00:51:32 we will open the straight in order to accommodate safe passage of vessels for 60 days. What Iran is at face value. You know, if you're a normal guy like you or me, you might say, well, that's great. It's going back to the way it was for 60 days. Iran's argument is there's a few channels in the street. We're going to open one of them. It's going to be only the one that's closest to our shoreline.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And if anybody else strives to move through, we still can take action against them. Yeah. And that's what Iran's explanation is for this. That's their best effort. And then they attacked. And then Trump was like, fuck the deal. Yeah. I never wanted to work with you.
Starting point is 00:52:14 you anyway. And now here we are. Yeah. And it was just funny because every step of the way, all these headlines and the comments with them are like, they're just on board. It's crazy how on board people, like at the beginning, I guess this is, because this is not a particularly popular war to my understanding, even in Republican base. We'll actually, we'll get to that with the Joe Rogan thing in a second. Yeah. But on here, it's, it's like, we're crushing them. It's over. We're winning. The deal's about to get done. That's great. It's about to happen. Oh, there's no deal. they're fucking scum and they never deserve to deal again.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I don't have them up, but they're, so I did look at some of the comments on some of the Iran ones. And a lot of them are like, this president is the first one who had the courage to actually push back against the regime.
Starting point is 00:52:55 There is a lot of, if on Fox News, it's like, that is the preserved group of people for whom this war is good. I think if you're, like, the person that is reading
Starting point is 00:53:07 Fox News in 2026 and making comments is a very different conservative than like, the Nick Fuentes fan on Twitter. So much older. They're just, they're just completely different demographics. Like you could just tell,
Starting point is 00:53:23 I mean, I listen, I love Fox News, as I could say today. But the vibe you get on the website is that it's for the elderly. These are the oldest people. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:53:32 we'll go to the Joe Rogan thing because it kind of ties to what we're saying. There's an article on Fox News that says from Joe Rogan said Trump fucked it up and may have handed the country back to the Dems in 2028 with an unpopular Iran war.
Starting point is 00:53:44 This is a, I mean, Joe Rogan, even in this quote, very Republican, and clearly attracts a certain base of Republicans. And I was wondering how the comments would be on this, because it kind of tears me apart mentally. I love these two goats. Box News Joe Rogan. I don't make me choose. You hate to see him fight. You hate to see him fight. And the comments, they picked Trump.
Starting point is 00:54:02 They picked Fox News. I mean, all the top comments are like, President Trump is the only president in 47 years to confront Iran and stop getting a nuclear weapon and pay for thousands of the Americans killed. And I thank God every day for him. Wrong, Joe. because Trump refused to kick the can down the road and risk a nuclear catastrophe. He looked at the country's welfare instead of popularity. Trump did not start the conflict with Iran.
Starting point is 00:54:22 That's debatable. That has 854 upvotes. He's the top three upvoted. Had he done nothing to stop around from getting nukes, that would be even less popular, which I'm just not sure is true. I wonder if we can see the comment history. I can't imagine these folks were stoked
Starting point is 00:54:39 about Joe Biden's foreign policy and the perception of starting foreign war. But yeah, it feels like that was the big movie like the big thing. Doug, it couldn't have been more clear. He didn't start the war. It was a comment with 850 upboats that says Trump did not start this war. When Trump and J.D. Vance repeatedly campaigned on the idea of no more foreign wars in the Middle East.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Yeah. When Iran started this war, we had to respond. That's basically in Asia. That's not even part of the East. And, uh, so this comment that was funny. Joan of Florida says a significant. number of Democrats lay the blame at Trump's door. But long before his entry to office,
Starting point is 00:55:17 Tehran was destabilizing the region, attacking neighboring countries and shipping lanes. Okay? And then this comment said, so what has changed? What's the most funny? Because like, okay, if you think that is horrible and Trump needs to do something, well, so far, that is exactly what is still happening.
Starting point is 00:55:32 There is no progress. The war is still going on. It is funny that there's no discussion of the fact that there was this period of like guaranteed deal and it's just gone. It's memory hold. There is no deal. And the war has no end in sight.
Starting point is 00:55:49 They're bombing again. And the true story, if you want an update, an honest update, not even talking about whatever, Fox News, is like in the past four days, we are back in open bomb. Like the beginning of the war. It's like we've had as many strikes
Starting point is 00:56:00 in the past four days is like in the beginning four days. It's bombs all over Iran. They're striking back on ships and in Gulf states. And nothing's changed. We've no progress from months ago on anything, in this war. I don't know if they're going to bomb harder this time and that's the plan, but this could go on a lot longer. Is the honest truth of it? I've, I, I, Well, they didn't bomb that hard the first time, so. Maybe it's, it's an amount of bomb situation.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Yeah. Maybe we throw more money at it. I know Trump wrote to Congress and, uh, is like, asked, not asking, but like saying we're going to get a new, uh, war declaration, a news 90 days or something that he doesn't need to ask Congress for, but he's asking for it anyway, to, like, re-begin, like, a whole new wave of strikes. So it's, it's day one again, which is kind of cool. It's got a fresh start, you know? We tried the ceasefire. We tried all that bullshit.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Let's get back to the fresh start on the Iran War. Do you guys have, because through, even through the periods of time where I'm reading and trying to follow this story as closely as possible, it still feels confusing to me? And I was like, like, if you're paying the most attention to this every day, is there like, is this more sensical than... I would say paying the most attention,
Starting point is 00:57:19 but my read on it is that it's like a... It's like a quick... I mean, it's really hard to just walk away. It's not easy to walk away because you can't leave Hormuz not how you found it. Yeah. It's like very damaging. And so they're trying to...
Starting point is 00:57:38 get it open and then walk away, but they can't set that up without it falling over. So that's the problem. It's like a one-way door that they've walked through and they can't go back through it. And Trump really seems like he wants to get out of this. He wants to be done with it, but there is no way to do it.
Starting point is 00:57:56 So they're kind of like flailing between give a bunch of stuff and like try to do a ceasefire. It doesn't work. Okay, we'll try to double down on attacking. But that's probably not going to work. And then they're probably going to be back to, you know, giving up more stuff. Yeah, that's what it seems like
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Starting point is 01:00:04 Okay, what's going on all this world? So on Fox News, a beautiful headline caught my eye. Europe bankrolls Putin's war machine, even as NATO races to bolster defenses. And it talks about how an environmental watchdog group release a report about shipping data coming from an Arctic port in Russia
Starting point is 01:00:29 and like where those shipments of liquefied natural gas are ending up. and I think there is there is some perception that a ton of Russian oil goes to China and it points that out and while that is the case
Starting point is 01:00:46 I think it's like overall something like 20% of the LNG from Russia is going to China right now a huge portion of that still goes to the European Union which is sort of the lens that this article is like attacking the problem through being critical of while Europe continues
Starting point is 01:01:03 to be the, you know, most vocal, uh, uh, per, most vocal force supporting Ukraine. They are simultaneously getting a lot of their energy from Russia through this time period still. And presumably through boats, right? Because the pipeline was blown up.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Yeah. Or, I mean, in this case, in this case, this is a shipment from a bunch of boats. Like, of the 140 looked at, uh, a hundred and thirty-six are going to, ports in France, Spain, and Belgium, whereas only four of these boats of liquefied natural gas are going to China. And it's, you know, I would say the article is very much framed as Europe
Starting point is 01:01:47 being a hypocrite for continuing to do this. It does note that Europe, they are in this like phase out plan where they're trying to get to a point by which, I think by the end of 2027, they are no longer reliant on Russian natural gas at all. And that date is like looming because still such a significant portion of that gas comes from them. And Europe's argument against this is that like the oil coming now in now is from like previous contracts that we like signed before this deadline. We're not being hypocritical. This is, you know, this is just fulfillment of like deals made in the past and we're still working towards this situation. we're going to be fully ready to phase out.
Starting point is 01:02:33 And then it goes into, you mentioned Spain specifically, where there's like internal disagreement. There's people that like work at, within the shipping and like port industry that disagree with the politicians in charge in Spain of like whether or not this deadline is like realistic to hit on time.
Starting point is 01:02:54 But when you consider the amount of energy, like I think it's over 50% of Russia's exports and it's 2026 right now. It does seem like it's going to be a really, really difficult transition. I don't know. I think this whole thing is silly because even if you sank, I think sanctions on a country as big as Russia for oil and gas,
Starting point is 01:03:14 which are untraceable commodities. It just doesn't, it's just like, probably doesn't work. Like if Europe goes, we're not going to buy Russian oil. What happens is they just sell it to India and then India sells it to Europe, which has happened.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Like they just, someone buys it and then they middleman, they take a little cup. and then they, like, it just gets to you because you need it and it exists and it's a global commodity market and they put it on shadow tankers and you can't, this is what happens every time. Like, it's not. That's what it was talking about is like the kind of the heroic efforts of a couple
Starting point is 01:03:46 Republican senators, including Lindsey Graham. Right. Pushing forward the effort of a secondary layer of sanctions on European countries that continue to engage with Russian energy. Oh, he was pushing for European countries to get sanctioned. Yeah. I mean, technically everybody, technically everybody, but Europe being one of the huge participating parties
Starting point is 01:04:06 of who is in this oil market. The other thing, to add on to what you're saying, that there's a way to circumvent that to begin with, is that through periods where there has been a drop in Europe's demand for this Russian LNG, they just pick that demand back up with China or Japan during those. down periods. So Russia is
Starting point is 01:04:32 able to maintain their level of output even without Europe. These aren't necessarily like, who knows what this could be over the course of years, but over these like week long periods or month long periods the demand is just picked
Starting point is 01:04:48 back up by other countries outside of the European usually anyway. Every barrel of oil and all the LNG on a tanker gets sold. It does every amount get, there's none of it sitting there like, ah, well, no one wants to buy it. They always get sold. So, I don't know. It just feels like a huge way. And it's crazy. I mean, how I'm, I'm getting off my Fox News. No, no, no, no. Tell you. Lindsey Graham wants Europe to have more expensive natural gas to help fight the war effort.
Starting point is 01:05:15 But it's like easy for us to say because we have a huge glut of natural gas. So it's like not, the section is not hard for us to take part in. I think there's, there's two layers to this. One, to give Lindsay Graham a minor bit of credit. Actually, this isn't really giving him credit. or whatever. It's bipartisan technically. It wasn't Lindsey Graham and another Republican guy. It's Lindsay Graham and there's Democrats.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Actually from an American B.O.V. It's like easy to say because it's not a hard sanction for us to do. But the reason that I think this is even brought up in the Fox News article and a huge angle of the comet, surprisingly, is this is good. Put the pressure on Europe
Starting point is 01:05:49 so that they become reliant on our American natural gas. Like figure out a way to make Europe engage with us. because we have the capacity to give them tons of natural gas. Tons of natural gas. Why are they working with Russia at all?
Starting point is 01:06:05 And these sanctions are part of the effort to make Russia, to make Europe more reliant on American energy. Not just because like we want to help Ukraine. I mean, is there validity to that strategy from the U.S. perspective? I mean, absolutely. I mean, yeah, I can see if you're Lindsay Graham
Starting point is 01:06:24 that that seems like a win-win. Yeah. I mean, he did think that. Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I guess that's the way you stop people buying from Russia, right, is you offer more gas, right? You sell more to Europe. You have Venezuela's new oil ramp up and go to Europe.
Starting point is 01:06:47 No, it's fine. It's just the point is like, every, like if they all switch their contract to American and they bought American LNG, then someone else somewhere is not buying that because it's going there now. And then the price shifts around and they export to them. The Russian LNG is still ending up somewhere. And then I also think the twist in this article is the way they present the data, they're like 136 ships out of 140 are going to Europe.
Starting point is 01:07:13 And I bet you will think they're all going to China. It's like they took a group of ships from one port at one specific time. And if you look at the actual data, it's like, okay, a lot of it is going to Europe, over 50%, but like 20 some percent is going to China as well. And that's not the number they're presenting. But that's, you know, that's off Fox News stats. I don't know, it's just, it's, it feels kind of beautiful. Or like, the main thing that's helped Russia,
Starting point is 01:07:44 more than anything, is the wrong war because it literally took supply off the market so it made oil more expensive, so they made a lot more money. Like that was the biggest thing, more than like individual sanctions, which you just get around. It helped our allies, Venezuela. True.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I think the number one place I'd like to read about vaccines is probably. Yes. It's probably Fox News. Yes, absolutely. There is some great vaccine news. It combines all my favorite things. Vaccines, AI, and Fox News comments. Oh, wait, can I say that?
Starting point is 01:08:16 Yeah. It was the funniest part of exploring the Fox News website to me, which is great. Don't get wrong. I constantly. I read it. Is that there just is no tech section. Like, it's just not. Like, if you were interested in tech news,
Starting point is 01:08:27 you maybe can find it by individual headline. Well, I would go to US and I would go to campus radical. It's probably campus radical. Why would I need tech if I have Blue City Crime? I mean, but nowhere, not world. There is no like business or tech news. It is not important. If I if you like to find like,
Starting point is 01:08:48 okay, all right, of these sections, by the way, if I over over media, I was like, maybe media would have like technology AI. The only drop down is Fox Nation coverage. And then if I go to entertainment, it's Taylor Swift Royal Families and Country Music. I found it. I found it. If you go all the way to the right. Okay. And you go to, there is an AI section. Okay. And if you make the browser as big as possible. And then if you go into Moore, you can find, wait, is there still not a, there's a science and tech section in the Moore section.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Oh, okay. If you scroll all the way to the bottom to this easily, easily navigatable. But I mean, it is interesting because you can see what gets the most clicks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so this is some cool vaccine news. So it's a mix of interesting vaccine news plus the Patriots giving comments. So researchers from universities of Cambridge and Southampton developed a, quote, universal vaccine designed to protect against multiple coronaviruses, which they explained in news release, is the large group of viruses that occur in nature, which caused the, COVID pandemic. So to explain this in English, what I found interesting, I don't know if you guys did too, as we explored our beloved homepage of Fox News, is that a lot of the articles are
Starting point is 01:10:06 perfectly neutral, right? And then it's just kind of describing a thing that happened. I mean, this is not that different than other articles I read that were of the same thing, right? It's just recapping some news. I, I, what my experience was there was articles like this, and then there would be news articles that have an inflammatory headline. Yes. Like the headline is redacted. But the actual meat and potatoes of the article was like surprisingly neutral. The opinions are are very intense. But yeah. And the opinion and then the opinions are like they're using Marxists every, at least every paragraph.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, okay. So this article is basically just recapping a research report that was just posted in a virology journal, I believe by some pretty legit, uh, researchers. And so here's the general concept of it. There are like 10 strains of coronavirus. in humans, but there are like thousands in animals, right, like in bats and whatnot. And so
Starting point is 01:11:01 normally the way we develop a vaccine against some kind of virus like this is that we look at what the current strain is and we say, okay, we're going to find an antigen that essentially represents the shape of the virus and then we're going to manufacture that. We injected into our bodies and now your body knows how to look for that particular thing, right? That's how a vaccine works. That's how we do with coronavirus. But then when a new coronavirus comes out, I thought vaccines work by sending my data through 5G to Bill Gates. So they added that. No, the antigen.
Starting point is 01:11:30 They don't all do that? No, no, no. They all do it now, but it's like the last 15 years. That's a recent. As tech evolved. Okay, that makes it. It's like Batman begins where Morgan Freeman is sitting in the Batcave, and he's looking at all of the screens of all your antigens,
Starting point is 01:11:44 except it's Bill Gates. But it's Bill Gates. It can see, okay, I got you. So every time a virus mutates, you got to make a new vaccine. And that's part of the problem with it. why there's new COVID vaccines all the time. So what Cambridge did is they had machine learning analyze hundreds of different coronavirus strains, like the genetic sequences of it.
Starting point is 01:12:02 And the idea is, hey, instead of looking at whatever the most recent virus shape and DNA structure is, what if we look at all of them, including the ones that are in nature, and we use this analysis, we let a machine do a ton of data crunching on this and find the common structures that exist amongst all of them? And that's what they did. the model was then able to make, hey, here's an antigen that's going to represent and basically defend our body from not only the current coronavirus we know about, but any future shapes they might take. It is future proofing against future versions of how viruses might mutate. This could be huge. Single virus that takes care of this forever. Quote, first time a vaccine whose active component was designed entirely by computer simulations has been tested in humans. They tested this with 39 volunteers, triggered an immune response, and seems to work. for all of them. From the trial's chief investigator, Saul Fost, if we can develop and clinically advance this new class of vaccines before a virus outbreak begins, millions of lives could be saved, lockdowns avoided, and the economy preserved. We could get ahead of viruses because we can see
Starting point is 01:13:07 the entire family of patterns that you see across an entire family and the prevent against that entire family and not just individual. Really cool, really interesting. Obviously, there's the question about like how involved, you know, how do we test and make sure that something that an AI designed is extraordinarily safe and it's in the early stages. Super minor note in this article about how it's administered with like a microfluid jet, which is like a newer vaccine thing. That's like a minor thing that's not related to the AI. So this is, this is really interesting. This is a potential world where as we've talked about a couple of times, medicine could really transform with AI, not because you're talking to chat, EBT, but because it is extraordinarily
Starting point is 01:13:46 good at processing huge quantities of complex data and finding patterns. So this is really interesting. So what are people in the comments saying? Um, I was surprised by this, to be honest. I thought it would all be talking about vaccines being bad. And there's some of that. For example, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me. Fouchy did a lot of damage in the public's confidence in Jabs. This is not Fauci. That's the wrong person. This is Fost. This is a different person. But almost all of the comments, getting back to how old do the people who seem to read this website are, are about the way the vaccine was administered, which was one sentence and is not the point of this article and is not what AI did. Here we go. Apparently, artificial
Starting point is 01:14:30 intelligence is not that intelligent. It came up with using a tiny high pressure stream of liquid and does not require a needle. When I was in Army basic training over 50 years ago, they ran us through an assembly line injecting who knows what into our arms at station after station using exactly this method. Okay, this tiny high pressure stream of liquid was used by the army over 60 years ago. Let's keep going. Drafted into the army
Starting point is 01:14:54 in 1969. All of the draftees in my basic training got multiple shops in an airstream ejector. In 1969, I was a naval boot camp in San Diego. There are hundreds of people who were in boot camp almost 50 years ago whose entire reaction to an incredible new potential form of vaccine is to go
Starting point is 01:15:14 complain about the type of injector they used, which is not the point of the article. Anyways. Oh. As a young kid, I was deathly afraid of shots. This one, yeah, some people are just complaining about shots. I managed to kick one out of the doctor's hands one time. The irony is later diagnosed as a type 1 diabetic and a lifetime of needles. I hope this, quote, new microfluid jet works better than the last time it was tried in the 60s.
Starting point is 01:15:44 It's just, anyway, that's so they're really latched onto that. It's just so crazy to see the confirmation that they really are at all. They're old. It's the old, like, that's what I've found is they're the wisest and most experienced among us. It's across his website. They do have a lifetime of boot camp, naval boot camp experience that I do not have. When I went through basic training in the summer of 1968, there are four people who are in basic training in 1968 through 1969.
Starting point is 01:16:12 You guys have any thoughts on the vaccine's cool, right? I mean, look, this is very much to be clear. This is not like a working vaccine that's going to cure everything. This is an interesting indicator of the possibilities that might happen using this type of technology remains to be seen. It's awesome. I mean, as a streamer, I prefer if we had another coronavirus and there was no way of stopping it. So I'm going to. Oh, wait, I should say.
Starting point is 01:16:36 The particularly interesting thing about this is not only could we have a future-proofed coronavirus vaccine, you could do this for other viruses, like influenza. We could potentially just come up with an influenza vaccine that's permanent. Harder because it mutates faster. You know what? Another one that could work for? Then I won't have an excuse to get out of things. And you're not going to like this because I know this is one of your favorite diseases.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Ebola. We could do this with Ebola and you future proof it with a vaccine instead of going off the current strain. Because if we got rid of Ebola, then I couldn't talk about the outbreaks on the podcast. Yeah, what would Aiden break? It would hurt our show. So far we're just talking about things that hurt this show. Yeah. Disease outbreaks are really a big part of our dollar in trade. Dude, your stream is going to pop off during the Ebola pandemic.
Starting point is 01:17:18 During the Ebola slash Corona 21. It's going to be a great month while people are alive. So I was taking a peek at our run of show. Yeah. And one of our last stories is Trump to shrink national monuments. Oh, I saw this. And I was wondering if we're actually going to go around and make them smaller. Great question, Aiden. Listen, I was on Fox News and I discovered something that I thought I'd be angry about, but I changed my mind really quickly.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Trump is going to shrink two Utah National Monuments. If you don't want a national monument is, I'm going to answer that question for you right now. I'm going to preempt your question. It's like a national park, but a president can create it unilaterally. You don't need an act of Congress. And they are being shrunk by 90%. This is grand staircase Escalante and Bears' ears. They're going from 3 million acres to 300,000 to allow.
Starting point is 01:18:09 the rest of the land to be used for development and natural resources. These is the new maps. Okay. I think a lot of people, myself included when I heard monuments, were thinking they were going to go like make the Mount Rushmore faces smaller. That's what I thought he was going to take the presidential shrink ray and kind of make the, so this is a park. There's a big natural land.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Big federal land. No shrink race. No. Well, on the map. How would you get the map to be smaller? That doesn't make any sense. And of course they have shrink rates. So this land can now be sold to developers to be used for great all-American clean coal,
Starting point is 01:18:43 which is what I found out through the comments. Because I thought people might be actually angry about this one. Because National Park is a fun thing to go to or a national monument with your family. It's beautiful, untouched American unspoiled terrain. These are the top comments. Something a lot of people forget is that one of the largest deposits of low sulfur clean burning coal is on the grand staircase. Long overdue. When was the last time millions of acres of land were taken in a so-called blue state the way this land was?
Starting point is 01:19:08 And when they say taken, they mean they're talking about when it was turned into a national park. I remember the last time millions of acres of land were taken in a so-called blue state? The way this land was. Dude, what do you want to... Like California is so much... He has a lot of national.
Starting point is 01:19:22 What? I want to give the top comments some credit. Okay. Because something a lot of people forgot is that one of the largest deposits is a low silver, clean burning coal is in the grand staircase. I did forget that.
Starting point is 01:19:36 I'm not going to... Pretend my guy. Princess Roxanna says it's not about preservation of native antiquities, but it's about removing huge chunks of our national resources from the economy. When they created this national park, the goal of previous presidents like Bill Clinton
Starting point is 01:19:52 was to take the resources out of our economy. That's why he did it. He didn't want us to have clean burning coal. And now thank God years later, we can shrink these damn things and get more coal back in the economy. This ties right into stopping Russia from selling LNG. We send this coal over to Europe. Yep. So did the article give
Starting point is 01:20:08 you any insight as to the return or the surge of coal industry that will return to the United States in order to. No. Because my understanding is leading out, like we're on a pretty consistent decline in the amount of people employed in the coal industry in the country, even under Trump. So it said, Trump said they, they referring to previous presidents, took the land from the people quite honestly, which is not really what a national monument is supposed to be four of the people. And now he's giving it back.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Utah governor praised the move. The original size of the monuments is far too expansive. Protections for national monies apply to the surrounding landscape as well, preventing drilling, mining, and construction. But now we can do that because they have large deposits of coal and uranium. So how about that? Yeah, Treasury, Interior Secretary Doug Bergam has pushed for using more federal land to expand U.S. energy production, clearing the way for mining and oil drilling in Alaska as well.
Starting point is 01:21:06 So this is good for the economy, Aiden. Okay? So get on board. Well, what does Fox News have to say about the government's potential 5% investment in Open AI? Look. As a site that doesn't highlight tech. It's a great question, Aden. You know why? Because I was curious.
Starting point is 01:21:25 What do people on Fox News think about AI? Genuinely, curious, what was going on? They even had a little poll at one point. So interestingly, kick this off. 77% of people in a Fox News poll said that, We need to either, it is extremely or very urgent to get government regulation on AI. I was surprised by that. You know, most of the people in power are pretty anti-regulation at the moment when it comes to AI.
Starting point is 01:21:47 But yes, okay, so this is a story that's been going on for kind of a couple weeks now. Sam Altman, actually, I'll read the title. Open AI, Sam Altman wants to negotiate a 5% stake in the company for U.S. if competitors agree to a key provision. He has gone to Trump, Bessent, and Howard Lutnik, and proposed that the government should take 5% of Open AI, but that all of the leading AI labs, such as Metaanthropic and Google, should also do the same. You might be wondering, like, what is going on here? So as a reminder, the government under Trump has invested, I think, a dozen companies now. One of the most notable
Starting point is 01:22:24 was the 10% stake in Intel. And this is somewhat interesting and strange for a government to take direct ownership in a company like this, something like Intel. We've talked about it a couple times. And I'm going to be honest, at first, I, when Sam Altman was proposing this, thought he's a fucking commie because government should not control the means of production. Government cannot control shit, right? Of course not. We should nationalize this. You shouldn't nationalize. I've seen 50 articles on here about the dangers of communism. Yes. But then I realized that once you talk to Trump and Bessent and Lutnik, it's like, okay, well, that could make a lot of sense. And they seem excited about the
Starting point is 01:23:02 idea. Trump apparently seems good with it. And so I realized probably, it's like, you know, this is America First, making sure we get the benefit from some of the companies and we've contributed to this. Until I realized he is a fucking call me because he met with Bernie Sanders. If you scroll down or up, I don't know where you are on this article. He then went and talked with Bernie and they had an hour-long conversation. And Bernie's been pushing for 50% government ownership of all the AI companies. Right. No, no, no, Bernie Sanders. There we go. Bernie Sanders, we talked about this super briefly like a month or two ago, but he proposed publicly. He's trying to push it into Congress as well.
Starting point is 01:23:36 The idea of U.S. should own half of the AI companies and, you know, have some sort of like sovereign wealth fund or redistribute that to people. So Sam Allman went and met with him with Bernie Sanders. And they talked this through and apparently he's on board with this idea, which is ridiculous. It is interesting because in the financial situation that Open AI is in, would Altman Bach at a U.S. government like 40? percent purchase of Open AI at its current evaluation. Because they do need cash so desperately. Well, so, dude, there's a lot of ways to interpret this thing.
Starting point is 01:24:15 And the most likely is that because Trump's administration has shown over the past month that they are perfectly willing to tell AI companies you can't distribute her models. They did it with Anthropic, as we've talked about a number of times. And I don't think we mentioned on the show, the most recent version of Chachby T 5.6 was not released for like a week or two because the U.S. government told OpenA.I. and told Sam Altman, yeah, you need to hold it. It's too dangerous until we explicitly approve it. So they have set this standard of the government is going to explicitly control this private market
Starting point is 01:24:47 of what products they can release. And probably what's going on here is Sam Altman is trying to say, you should be invested in our company because then he knows the likelihood that they're going to shut stuff down. Like that goes way, way, way down. and so, you know, arguably because Sam Altman is not agreeing to the 50% from Bernie and saying he really wants to work with Trump, I think he is, he is a capitalist and he's not a filthy commie. Until I read the comments. What do the comments say? Quote, this is communism. Whether the name is Trump or Xi selling or demanding private equity and firms to the government for protection is communism by definition.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Another comment. Not in favor of the U.S. government owning any part of the private company. The government owns 31% of the health industry, and look where that has gotten us. No. Final verdict communist. I mean, I agree with this third guy here. This is Sam asking the U.S. taxpayer to bail out his company.
Starting point is 01:25:41 It just feels like... That's what I'm saying. I feel like he's in a position now where it's like that regardless of your ideological stance or something, he's just not in a circumstance where he can reject these amounts of money. Well, I mean, it's just like, if you give 5% to Trump, your likelihood of him and the U.S. helping you out when shit gets bad or if you're in a tough like it's way higher it's way way
Starting point is 01:26:03 way higher stops being a free market right like the the incentive then for the u.s. government is to ensure that open a i and these specific tech companies that we would be picking as winners like go on to win but what if they do shitty things or they're incompetent or other competitors come up and then just don't get that advantage it it doesn't seem great like i'm on board with the idea of some way of tapping into AI. You tax them. Right. That's what always work is like they compete and no matter who wins, you get a big cut for the government and you spend it on people. Do a value added tax for tokens. Like picking certain companies and you own a percent of them. It's just like there's so many
Starting point is 01:26:41 bad incentives is what I would have thought until I read this article and now I've changed my mind. I don't want to talk about taxes on Fox Newsweek. I'm, I'm baffled that this isn't portrayed as like a horrific communist thing, which I'm assuming is because it's related to the Trump administration. But this is like, it's, this is bizarre. This is really bizarre to come from the supposedly very free market focused administration. Do you guys feel like you had any big takeaways reading pretty much just Fox this week?
Starting point is 01:27:12 Like, what are your, what are your big thoughts as you kind of like went through article? Well, it doesn't cost me any money. That's another thing. I don't know. I could cancel all my other subscriptions and I could just Fox News.
Starting point is 01:27:22 They do fit a lot of ads. put a lot of ads on there. But small price to pay for that great journalism. So that's the first thing I know. No, I mean, I don't know. It was interesting. But I read a lot of Fox News this week for this thing. And I really had to dig through a lot of trashy celebrity stories. They are everywhere.
Starting point is 01:27:39 It's like a third of every category is they try to angle it through a celebrity. Yeah. Usually an aging star that someone old would know about. It's like. That was kind of an odd thing is like I'm like as I'm looking for Iran, war updates or like a Trump news. I would also see like an article that has shortless pictures of Harrison Ford and his new body. It's like half half like People magazine, half kind of political news. Yeah. It's so bizarre. How much of it is that? And and I really, I mean, we've like
Starting point is 01:28:15 joked about it, but I really appears to be an extremely old audience. Yeah. Like really old. Like, these are boomers. These are like a genuinely like the oldest generation that we have right now. Yeah, there was a Marjorie Taylor Green quote recently where she was talking, because she's totally gone off the Trump train. You know, she's like entirely separate branch of Republican now. And she was talking about how there is a diehard group of Fox News only very old boomers
Starting point is 01:28:43 who are 100% locked behind Trump. Nothing will change. Literally anything can change. And she's like, I'm just going for a different. Like that, not to give credible credence to Marjor Tava Green, but like that, that quote I remembered in my head and it kind of rung true reading this.
Starting point is 01:28:56 This is like a, yeah, just a segment of like, decently well off elderly boomers. Yeah. Who were like just, that's the view they see things through. They,
Starting point is 01:29:07 they, most people have homes. Most of these people have. There were okay stories. There was like decent. No, I mean, like the live,
Starting point is 01:29:17 Iran War update thing was like, it was minute by minute, tracking what I would get elsewhere. It was like, you know, updates on what CENTCOM said and what happened in Congress. The vaccine article did not have conspiracy stuff or anti-vaccine stuff in it. It was just
Starting point is 01:29:30 this is the scientific update and that was it. It was held to the comments. I think I'm also like it's not lost on me that like any basically anything you read is going to have a level of like political bias present in it. That's that's not even the part that I feel like I'm getting at. It's more like the
Starting point is 01:29:46 presentation of it and the bombastic nature of the headlines. Like if I what I would normally read in like a given week would be like okay FT, New York Times, Reuters, and then maybe like Al Jazeera and the Guardian
Starting point is 01:30:03 like and I think what all of these things have in common that is so substantially different from Fox News is I feel like the headlines are just a little more straightforward. Like every headline here is intermingled with
Starting point is 01:30:22 way more inflammatory language in order like in order to attract the attention of that like 70 year old Fox News consumer and it's you know it's packaged between you know a couple celebrity stories and like how AOC fucked up this week. Yeah. And that's the whole site. There's a lot of cultural war lens on everything and then a lot of celebrity trash on the lens and everything. Which is usually through the lens of like going back to Jesus,
Starting point is 01:30:53 a lot of, you know, like traditional conservative values somehow become tied up with the celebrity stuff too. Yeah. You know, I wanted the test, so I went to MSNBC's website too. Like,
Starting point is 01:31:09 it's kind of the mirror version, right? Yeah. It's also boomers watching largely and it's just a different demographic. Their schick is that almost, I'd say 95% of articles have Trump in them. And it's usually something like he fucked up or he's bad or, you know, it's like, that's the idea.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Because that just gets clicks. That's, people that are old and to like Trump want to hear about how he's doomed. It's over. He's all about the, yeah, yeah. So that's part of it. I feel like the actual barrier that I, I realized reading this. Because when we do, when we do research for like normal episodes, I feel like MSNBC or like a CBC, it are the types of websites that I'm going to way, way, way,
Starting point is 01:31:52 less than like the outlets I just described. And there's kind of this line in the sand in between subscription news and free to access news that's like packed with advertisements. Like MSNBC, Fox, like sit in this realm of I open the page, I scroll through like three video ads, like a few image ads in like a bunch of. different sections of the article, but I don't have to subscribe to read anything. And ultimately, I get a more bare bones version of events, more inflammatory title compared to the New York Times FT situation where, okay, after an article or two, I have to subscribe. And there's usually a lot more
Starting point is 01:32:43 depth and straightforward nature to the, I feel like that's like the real divide in news media is like, is that? Yeah. Yeah, that's what I would notice from both those websites is that the headline kind of tells you how to think before you've clicked it.
Starting point is 01:32:57 You know what the angle is, so you can kind of know what you're getting into before you click. Yeah, it was an eye-opening experience. I do feel much, much more informed. And now I'm going to stick to Fox News. Let us know of the comments
Starting point is 01:33:13 if you'd like this to be every episode or only every other. I think if there was any takeaway, it if there wasn't something already, it's like even if you have a solid news source that you like checking the most, I think this is an affirmation of maybe don't read all your news in one place. Just try, especially if there's just a story or thing you're particularly interested in, go follow the thread across different sites and like try to picture, like put a picture together from those multitude, like the multitude of things.
Starting point is 01:33:49 It gave me a deep insight. I'm not a deep insight, but I get a better idea. I have some family members, extended family members, who only watch Fox News. And I just, I almost like can see the talking points that they're saying as I'm reading to the website. I can just, you get where they got it from. And that's where it's just, it guides you like right to a conclusion.
Starting point is 01:34:08 It gives you a conclusion. It's just like, you know how to think. You don't even really have to read the article. You're just kind of know the gist of it. And you can jump to the comments and then you. There's a great, there's a great. Shane Gillis bit about this from one of his stand-up specials where he's talking about having a Fox News dad
Starting point is 01:34:23 and how every night his dad sits and watches Fox News until he's so pissed he can't watch anymore. And his dad's goal every evening is he needs to walk away with one fact that he can say at the dinner table. And that most of the time that fact is Nancy Pelosi's a bitch. Okay, all right. We'll do an episode in the future. where we go to a more extreme version of this,
Starting point is 01:34:50 which is it's a Fox News headline show. We can't do any research beyond the headlines, and then we just have conversations. Do we go to O-N or... Harris-Ribb... Dude, I thought about sneaking... This is my idea for this week. Was sneaking an O-A-N-N article in.
Starting point is 01:35:07 And seeing if we can notice. And seen if there's like a layer of disconnect between the two. Because, dude, if you go on, it's even crazier on there. Oh, yeah. It's actually insane. No, because half of these articles, again, are like, trying to be, it's the way they're packaged, right? It's like they're trying to have some facts, but they
Starting point is 01:35:22 package it in a way. But O'Anne doesn't give a shit. They go crazy. I think if you're in the, there's an unfortunate reality, if you're in this like mainstream more corporate news media world and you're intending on making everything accessible for free, you just have to go for like inflammatory
Starting point is 01:35:38 what gets the click, what moves the ad revenue sort of shit and you can't you can't rely on like the traditional tenets of journalism. because that's not what people are there for. They need the click. But thank you for joining us this week on Lemonade Stand.
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