Life Kit - 5 essential water skills to know this summer
Episode Date: May 26, 2025Knowing how to swim can help you have fun at the pool or beach this summer. But it could also save your life. Here are some tips to start swimming if you never learned as a kid. This episode originall...y published June 29, 2023.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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Hey everybody, it's Marielle.
There are some life skills that we're told we're supposed to learn as kids.
But then you get to adulthood and you realize you never did learn how to ride a bike,
or to light a match without burning your fingers, or to swim.
That's true for me in swimming.
I took lessons as a kid,
but I somehow never got the hang of it.
I always felt like water was going up my nose
and that I was moving through quicksand.
And now if I try to swim, I feel like I get nowhere.
That is hard and a little embarrassing.
And that shame can make us put up walls.
Like, I'm not good at this.
Why even bother?
Colin Jones told me he gets it.
Like, once you start to build that thought process that you're not good at something,
it tends to become real.
Jones nearly drowned when he was five.
And then he went on to swim in two Olympics,
win four medals, and become the first African-American
to hold a swimming world record.
And one of the things that I think we need to do as a society,
especially around water, is stop feeding
into that thought process.
If you're an adult and you don't know how to swim,
or don't know how to swim well,
Cullen is confident that you can do it.
And he says you should do it.
11 people die by drowning every day in the U.S.
Among adults, black and indigenous Americans
have the highest drowning rates.
And the American Red Cross found that while 85%
of Americans said they could swim,
only 56% could perform five basic water
safety and swimming skills that can prevent drowning.
We've talked about all the reasons why you shouldn't and can't.
We need to change that into I can and I will because.
I will because I don't want this to continue.
I will because I don't want anyone else in my family to drown.
I will because I don't want anyone else in my family to drown. I will because I don't want
any of my friends to drown. I will because this will make me healthy. I will because I know I can
do it. So we need to change that narrative in our heads. All right, Cullen, I'm listening.
On today's episode of Life Kit, how you can learn to swim as an adult and what specific survival swimming skills you should know.
So Colin was telling me how he almost drowned as a kid, and then he went to swim classes. It took me five different teachers until I started feeling comfortable with the water,
but you know how we all have that favorite English teacher, gym teacher, you know, Spanish
teacher, whatever, we have that teacher that things just click.
And so I never shame, I never make a point of putting anyone down, especially when it comes to learning to swim,
because I can understand and I can relate.
But the only thing that I say is do not give up,
because you will find that teacher,
you will find that instructor that it just clicks.
You know, we really need to change this thought
of swimming is just a great sport, which it is.
It's also a life skill.
And so we want to make sure that people understand the importance of learning to swim.
Yeah, as a like crucial skill that they need to have. What about once you're an adult,
and let's say you want to learn to swim for the first time because you never did as a kid,
learned to swim for the first time because you never did as a kid. Where do you start? Where can you find a class or an instructor that you might click with?
So, my mom took me to the Y. I think you have so many different groups now. We're talking
about this was like early 90s, late 80s. So, she only had the why in New Jersey at that point to really bring me to but there's so many different
Outlets and and it's really about just doing the research and finding a pool near you most pools have
Lifeguards that will teach you they might have a lesson program within the pool. You can go to
USA swimming dot org
within the pool. You can go to usaswimming.org forward slash make a splash and there's a additional shame layered on there.
It's a feeling of, I should have learned how to do this by now.
It's embarrassing that I haven't.
And then I'm gonna go to this class
and I'm gonna be with a bunch of kids
and that's gonna be, I'm gonna look so silly.
What are some of the mental barriers
that adults might face when they're trying to decide
to do a swimming class.
Oh, I love my mom, but trust me, I've gotten every excuse thanks to her.
I've heard it all.
My sinuses, my allergies, my hip, my eh, I've heard it all.
I'm not saying that shame isn't a part of how you feel.
I fully understand that.
But what is important is shame
or nearly drowning or drowning.
I'll take the shame and I'll overcome the shame over that
any day of the week.
My mom is now learning to swim.
And one of the things that she told me
after her first swim lesson,
and she's like, why did I wait so long?
And I said, it's because of all of the things
that you built up in your head
as to why you couldn't do it or why you shouldn't do it,
or you got really close to going,
but then something else got in the way.
Yeah.
What are some things that you could do
to make it easier on yourself,
like to prepare yourself for day one of lessons as an adult.
I think as an adult, just like anything, pack your bag the night before.
Have no excuses. You need no friction as to why you're going.
Because again, we know about these stigmas that you've built up in your head
as to why you shouldn't, couldn't, and won't do what this is when it comes to learn to swim.
And then literally just listening to the teacher because the teacher will tell you what else
you need.
If it's a kickboard, if it's paddles or what have you, usually the facility or the
lifeguard can supply that.
But goggles, cap, suit, make sure you're comfortable in anything that you bought and you should
be good. Is there a swimming stroke
that people are usually taught first,
or like one that is the most useful or effective to learn?
You know, I would say freestyle,
just because of the ability to catch on to the motion.
You can also breathe pretty easily by shifting to the side. The kick is
a lot easier, the stroke is a lot easier once you get the rhythm down. Breaststroke is,
I would say, a very, very close second.
Okay. How do you get over the feeling of grossness of being in a body of water, like in a pool
with all these other people and just their bodily fluids and sweat
and stuff all over.
I'm not even gonna lie to you.
That's the first time I've ever been asked that and I've been doing this for a long time.
Okay.
So getting over the grossness of others in the pool.
Sorry.
No, no, no, no.
That's always been a thing ever since I think that part of it is like I saw like a band-aid
floating in the water once and like, I know kids, they pee in the pool and I'm just, it's
gross to me.
Yes.
I completely can understand that.
When it comes to pools, the pools are shocked with chlorine.
They are sterilized.
They're constantly testing it to make sure
that it's safe for people to be in there. Push the band-aid aside, that's just sort
of a fortunate situation, but I can tell you that normally jumping in the pool is extremely
clean.
Okay. And then, you know, I feel like there's, there are the people who know that they're not strong
swimmers or that they can't swim.
And then there are the people who think they can swim well, but they actually couldn't
swim well enough to save themselves in a situation.
That's something the American Red Cross has talked about.
They have this list of five skills that you need at minimum to save yourself in the water.
I thought maybe we could go through them and why they're important.
The first one is to be able to fully submerge yourself underwater that's over your head,
to be comfortable enough to do that, but also to know how to do it safely by either stepping
in or jumping in.
Jumping into the water is a big issue, especially when you're looking at open water, when it
looks at the ocean or a lake or a river, because you don't know what you're jumping into.
So you see people jumping off rocks, you see people jumping off all of these different
platforms.
We have seen people become unbelievably injured from that.
You wanna make sure that you understand the depth
of the water that you're actually jumping into.
There's another one that says you have to be able
to return to the surface and float or tread water
for one minute.
This is a big one.
I'm gonna tell you right now, I have four medals.
I've been to the Olympics twice.
I can't float.
That has nothing to do with learning to swim.
Muscle does not float.
So if you are someone that is fit, has muscle,
don't expect to float.
You're going to tend to go down.
So that's why treading is very important.
That's why these swim lessons are so important,
because you can learn these skills
to be able to hold yourself above water.
You know, I feel like treading water can be so exhausting.
Is there anything I might learn in a swim class
that would make it easier?
So you'll learn how to skull, it's called sculling,
where you're putting your hands back and forth,
back and forth, and it's a way to keep yourself above water.
You'll learn how to kick your feet.
But one of the biggest things about treading water
and also floating is taking in a deep breath.
When you take in that deep breath,
your lungs at that point essentially become a buoy,
which will lift your body up above the water.
Now, when you're treading water,
sometimes you need to actually be breathing
because you're moving, but to rest,
you can take a deep breath and hold it
and then kind of lay back.
Got it.
All right, another one is to be able to turn around
in a full circle and find an exit.
So, I mean, it's just as important as getting
into the water is to understand how to get
out of the water.
You know, you see people, they jump in and then they're disoriented and they don't know
how to get out of the body of water.
So a lot of that is just understanding that yes, you know, we all like to get in the water,
but we need to also prioritize understanding the safest way how to get out.
And then being able to swim 25 yards to an exit without stopping.
How far is 25 yards by the way for those of us who can't picture a yard?
So most pools in the US are 25 yards.
So the pool that you're thinking of in your head, that's probably a 25 yard pool.
Many swim tests usually either go the full 25 yard length
or you have to swim across the width of a pool.
And then you also need to be able to exit from the water.
And if you're in a pool,
that means get out without using a ladder.
Correct.
I have a three-year-old and I yell it to him
every time he tries to get out now that he's really good at it.
But it's elbow, elbow, tummy, knee, knee.
You're not always gonna necessarily have a ladder
to be able to pull yourself up.
So one of the things that I like to,
and I've heard from others, elbow, elbow,
so you're putting both of your elbows up on the surface,
lifting yourself up to your stomach so you're halfway out,
and then you're trying to bring your knee up
One knee up and then the other knee up and then you should be able to stand up at that point
So, how do you know if you've been learning to swim in a pool?
How do you know when you're ready to maybe tackle the ocean or a river or something like that?
If you feel comfortable in a pool being able to swim 25 yards or 50
Which is two laps and you can tread for, you know, two, three minutes, I think
that, yeah, going into the ocean, I think is great. And it's
fine. And it's a lot of fun. But we want to make sure that like
people feel comfortable. And I think that you will feel
comfortable. If you're able to, to not worry about the depth,
you know, I have so many people come up to me that say to me
like, well, how you can swim?
Yeah.
Well, how deep can you swim?
Yeah.
That question doesn't really make sense if you know how to swim because it doesn't matter
what the depth is if you know how to keep yourself above the water.
And so I think if you can understand that concept in your head, then you're ready to
swim in the ocean.
What are some other skills that you should have if you're swimming, say, not in a head, then you're ready to swim in the ocean. What are some other skills that you should have
if you're swimming, say, not in a pool,
like if you're in the ocean or you're among rocks or waves?
So one of the things that you want to know
is to not go against, you wanna kind of go with the current
so that you can kind of swim out of the undertow,
and then you can swim towards land.
So what you really wanna do in that time is
you wanna allow the current to kind of take you,
and then from that point, once the current has stopped,
you can use your energy towards swimming to safety
at that point, not trying to fight the ocean.
You're not gonna win.
And if you are someone who is not a strong swimmer,
like is it inadvisable to go into the ocean
up to say like your knees or like your hips,
is that okay or is that like, don't do that?
Look, here's how I will answer that.
Again, there is no substitute.
Zero.
I mean, I don't care what life jacket you have,
there is no substitute for learning to swim.
Because what you will learn at a formal swim lesson
is what will save your life
in these types of circumstances.
Go get swim lessons.
But if you find yourself on a boat
or if you find yourself standing in the water
and you don't really know how to swim,
life jackets are out there.
There are Coast Guard approved life jackets
to make sure that people are safer around
the water.
So you want to make sure that you're preparing for every circumstance.
But yes, go out there and learn to swim first.
Yeah.
I think the thing is like, I just, I try and I don't go anywhere.
Okay.
It's like, I'm not moving.
It's really weird.
I feel like I haven't covered any ground.
So like sometimes you feel like you can get the move
and then you're like, eh, okay, I give up.
Yeah, but like for anything, I mean, it's,
did you understand algebra the first time you did it?
Did you understand how to read the first time you did it?
And one of the things that we talk about when it comes to kids, you know, why
are kids sponges because they're not afraid to fail? Like, we're afraid to fail? Like,
no, we just need to be gracious when we fail. You talked about track, right? Did you win
every race? No. Did I swim every race and win? No.
Yes, yes, Colin, I did.
Yes, you did? Oh, you did. I'm sorry, I apologize, I apologize.
I don't know if you've heard of me,
I'm also an Olympian.
I got it, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
But we can't be afraid to fail,
we can't be afraid to fail graciously.
Understand that you're not gonna get it the very first time,
the very first time that you did anything,
you usually fail at it until you continue to work at it.
Oh, God.
I just, you know, I think there's something,
there are a lot of like really deep fears here and, right?
It's like trying to care less about what random people
at the pool think about you.
Yes.
You know, as if they're thinking about you at all.
You know, as a black male in the 90s,
wearing Speedos, growing up in the inner city,
I had to learn very early to not pay attention
to what other people were thinking
or the fact that they were looking at me
because I did stand out.
So you're 100% right.
If you are in your journey,
no matter where you're starting
or where you are in your journey,
stay focused on your journey.
Understand that it's going to be a process
and understand that there is light at the end of the tunnel
and you will get better at it the more you work at it.
Nicole Sarris Oh, it's happening.
It's happening.
I'm speaking specifically to you because I want you to learn.
Miss never lost a race.
You're an Olympian, right?
Come on.
I got to get you safer on the water now. Oh my god. Miss never lost a race. A race. You're an Olympian, right? Come on.
I got to get you safer on the water now.
Okay.
Well, thank you so much.
This has been great.
Thank you for having me.
This was fun.
Yeah.
See you at the pool in an hour.
Let's do it.
Okay.
It's time for a recap.
The American Red Cross says everyone should know these five survival swimming skills.
How to submerge yourself underwater safely.
How to come up for air and float or tread water for a minute.
How to turn around in a pool and look for an exit.
How to swim 25 yards to that exit.
And then how to get out of the water without a ladder.
Cullen suggests the elbow elbow tummy knee knee method. If you're looking for
swim classes you can go to usaswimming.org forward slash make a splash to
find a local pool and take it from there. Remember Cullen suggests to pack your
bag the night before your first class so you have no excuses the next morning.
You might want to bring goggles, a swim cap, or a nose clip if, like me, one of your big
concerns is water going up your nose.
And you know, try to have fun and not worry about what other folks in the pool are thinking.
I mean, anyway, they're probably thinking that you've got the cutest bathing suit.
Where'd you get it, by the way?
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This episode of Life Kit was produced by Margaret Serino,
who has offered to teach me how to swim
so we can go to the beach together this summer.
I'm considering it.
Our visuals editor is Beck Harlan,
and our digital editor is Malika Greene.
Megan Cain is our supervising editor,
and Beth Donovan is our executive producer.
Our production team also includes Andy Tagel,
Claire Marie Schneider, Sylvie Douglas,
and Sam Yella Horse Kessler.
Engineering support comes from Zoe Vangenhoven.
I'm Mariel Segarra. Thanks for listening.