Life Kit - Do This Today To Sleep Well Tonight
Episode Date: November 3, 2019From the moment you wake up, your body starts to prepare for sleep. We show you how to adjust your daytime habits to get the best possible night of rest.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podca...stchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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You know the downside of not getting enough sleep?
Let me tell you, it is a scary long list.
I'm a health reporter, and every week I see a new study.
Lack of sleep, it's linked to anxiety, depression, weight gain, type 2 diabetes, even certain kinds of cancer.
If you understood the damage that insufficient sleep has on the brain and the body as I do,
you would choose to do nothing else.
It's purely a selfish act on my behalf that I give myself that eight hour sleep. That is sleep guru Matthew Walker. He's a sleep
researcher at UC Berkeley and the author of Why We Sleep. He has made it his mission to convince
the world that sleep is important. What is it that you found over the years that really gets
people's attention?
I think it's different facts for different populations.
You know, for example, sometimes I'll go and speak to a lot of Fortune 500 companies where there is a large dominance of sort of type A males in the audience.
One of the first things I usually say in those speeches is regarding testicles,
that men who sleep five to six hours a night have significantly smaller testicles than those who sleep seven hours or more.
Oh, I'm sure that gets their attention.
Yeah, it's the best opening that I've found yet.
Testicles is probably one of the best hooks for maintaining people's attention.
You hook them with small testicles.
Yep.
So clearly all kinds of things can happen to you if you don't get enough sleep.
But scientists have also learned a lot about how to get those eight hours in and how to improve the quality of our sleep.
And it turns out that process starts from the moment you wake up.
This is your NPR Life Kit for getting better sleep.
I'm Alison Aubrey. I cover health and wellness here at NPR.
And in this episode, we've got five things for you to do today to help you sleep better
tonight.
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slash NPR. There is plenty to be said about good nighttime routines for bed, but in this episode,
we will focus on how your daytime habits influence your sleep. One thing you need to know is you may not feel tired until 9 or 10 o'clock tonight,
but your body started to prepare for sleep first thing this morning.
From the moment that everyone woke up this morning that's listening to this,
a chemical started building up in your brain, and that chemical is called adenosine.
And it is the sleepiness chemical and the longer that you're
awake the more of that sleepiness chemical builds up in the brain and after about 16 hours of being
awake there should be enough of that healthy sleepiness sort of swilling around within your
brain enough of what we call sleep pressure to then make you feel ready to fall
asleep and then stay asleep for eight hours. Is it really that direct? Is there really this
compound that says you are drowsy now? My biology is telling me to go to sleep.
Yeah. And it's during that eight hours of sleep that the brain then starts to clear away and remove all of that
adenosine, all of that sleepiness chemical. And now you're ready to wake up. But here's the
problem. In our society where it's go, go, go 24-7, lots of us override our internal body clocks. We
just ignore these signals to sleep. What do I mean? Well, let's walk through a typical day.
So let's say it's morning, the sun is shining, but where are you? Many of us start our day in our dark bedrooms, then we stop by a dark coffee shop, then we get into our indoor cubicles where
there's no natural light. So what's missing? Daylight is perhaps one of the most powerful resetters of our 24-hour clock. So we
need things like daylight just to keep us regular, to keep the precision of our 24-hour clock bang on
the money. So go ahead, pull open those curtains, or better yet, go outside, because natural light
is the best kind of light. When daylight floods into the brain,
it tends to put the brakes on a hormone called melatonin. And melatonin is the darkness hormone.
It's the hormone that circulates in your brain and your body. And like a chemical bullhorn
shouts out to all of the cells of your brain and your body, it's nighttime, you should be asleep.
But when daylight comes through the eyes,
it actually turns the faucet off on melatonin. So there's no more melatonin being released.
So your brain now realizes, oh, it must be daytime. It's time to wake up.
So how much light do you really need in the morning? Try to make sure to get outside for at least 20 minutes during the early
to mid-morning hours to infuse your brain with daylight. These data and these scientific studies
are now well replicated that having daylight exposure in the morning tends to lead to better
sleep in the evening. Okay, so your next habit to reconsider? Caffe caffeine. If you're like me, you get to the office, you have a cup of coffee, maybe another one.
Here at NPR, it's free, it is super popular.
And certainly that cup of coffee at 10 a.m., it can't really interfere with my sleep tonight, right?
So I think people misunderstand caffeine and how it works with sleep. The way caffeine works is that it enters your
system and it latches on to the receptors of adenosine. And you'll remember we were talking
about adenosine. Ah, we were talking about that. That's exactly the thing you want to build up to
help you sleep. That's right. So adenosine is the sleepiness chemical. So essentially,
caffeine comes into your system and it hits the mute button on the adenosine
signal of sleepiness. So it wakes you up. Now, the issue with caffeine is that it has a half-life of
about six hours in most people. It has a quarter-life of 12 hours. What I mean by that is
if you have a cup of coffee at noon, a quarter of that caffeine
is still circulating in your brain at midnight. Now, some of you may not think this applies to
you and some people are way more sensitive to caffeine than others. But Walker says even if
you don't get the caffeine jitters, it can still interrupt the quality of your sleep.
Some people will say to me, look, I can have an espresso after dinner and I fall asleep and I stay asleep. So no harm, no foul. I'm okay. And the answer is maybe
not. We've done these studies where we give people a standard cup of coffee, a dose of, let's say,
180, 200 milligrams of caffeine. Then we put you to bed and then we measure your sleep. And what
we find is that even if you fall asleep and stay asleep,
the amount of deep sleep that you get is reduced by about 20%. Ah, so even those people who say, I can drink coffee right before I go to bed,
they're not exactly right.
They're not exactly right because they end up shortchanging their brain in terms of that deep sleep.
And hopefully, if this helps you sleep better, maybe you don't need that 2 p.m. latte. So the bottom line, and this is your take-home number
two, you want to try to put the brakes on caffeine by late morning. I think people need to be quite
mindful of the timing of their caffeine. And the advice usually would be try to stop drinking
caffeine about 14 hours before you expect to go to bed.
Now let's talk about exercise.
It's 5.15.
I'm trying to get to the spin class at NPR, but everything is going crazy at home.
I've got last minute things to do to work.
I'm going to miss it today.
So how will missing out on my workout interfere with my sleep tonight?
So the relationship between sleep and exercise is quite well understood, and it's-directional in fact. What do you mean bi-directional? Well we
started off thinking that exercise had a beneficial impact on sleep and the answer was yes it does
but what was even perhaps more powerful statistically was that better sleep at night
predicted a greater likelihood that you would actually exercise
at all the next day. So sleep begets exercise and exercise begets sleep.
Now, exercise may help promote sleep in two ways. Physical activity is known to reduce anxiety,
so that can help you sleep better. And exercise can also physically tire you out. That can make
you sleepy too. And just to give you a sense of
how beneficial exercise can be, Matthew Walker writes in his book about a study of a group of
older adults who had sleep issues. They found that after four months of increased physical activity,
they were sleeping about an hour more on average per night. If you add that one hour up week after
week, month after month, decade after decade,
it's like compounding interest on a loan that it really starts to sort of increase and become
quite voluminous in terms of a long-term escalating impact. Okay, so bottom line,
I should get to that 5.15 cycling class. Is that what you're telling me? I am.
So one thing to keep in mind here is
that you don't want to exercise too close to bedtime. It can be overstimulating. But the big
takeaway here is exercise can help you get better sleep. Always try and get some exercise if you can
for better sleep, but just try not to make it in the last two hours before you go to bed.
Usually that can actually be, for some people, a little deleterious.
Okay, so where does this leave us?
We're going to get more morning light.
We're going to cut back on caffeine.
We're going to get to that 5.15 cycling class.
Now, what about happy hour?
I know a lot of us wind down in the evening with a glass of wine or a beer or two.
So what's the skinny on alcohol and sleep? Many people see alcohol as a sleep aid. Unfortunately, it's one of the greatest
misunderstood substances when it comes to sleep. It is not a sleep aid at all. It turns out that
after an evening of drinking, Walker says our sleep can become fragmented, we tend to wake up more often, and our sleep can be less restful.
Alcohol is a very good drug at blocking your dream sleep.
Wow, so you don't even get the REM sleep when you're drinking alcohol?
That's right, yeah.
Or you get it, but you are shortchanged of a lot of it.
This is why a lot of people will tell me,
you know, at the weekend I had a bit too much to drink on Friday,
and then I slept in late on Saturday morning and I was having these bizarre
dreams and I don't know why. And the answer is this, that the alcohol was in your system for the
first six or seven hours whilst your liver and kidneys were trying to break it down. And during
that time, no REM sleep or very little REM sleep. And when you finally get rid of the alcohol in your system,
not only in the last few hours do you get the REM sleep that you were going to have,
you get that plus a rebound where the brain tries to get back some of what it's lost.
And that explains why you have these really bizarre, really intense dreams after a few
too many drinks at night. And it's not just crazy dreams. Alcohol can get in the way of you consolidating new memories.
You know, you write about a study in the book
where people were given, I think, three shots of vodka,
I guess vodka and orange juice,
and they were asked to do some kind of memory task,
memorize something.
And the researchers found that the ability to memorize the material
was greatly reduced when people in the study had something to drink.
That was really eye-opening to me.
It's frightening, isn't it?
It's the sleep after learning that essentially hits the save button on those new memories.
And what they found is that alcohol, if you disrupted sleep the first night after learning, it washed away about 50% of the memory. So you
were only able to save 50% of what you learned rather than 100%. It's really shocking. I mean,
it's almost like saying sleep can help you consolidate memory, but drinking alcohol,
even having two shots of vodka can almost counteract it. That's right. You're taking
away sleep's benefit that you are essentially inducing a state of sleep-impaired amnesia.
But there's got to be some amount of alcohol that's okay.
I mean, does this happen after only having, say, a glass of wine with dinner?
Please tell me no.
Sadly, it does.
One glass of wine?
Yep.
So we've done some of these studies where even just one glass of wine, you can see there is a blast radius on sleep.
Wow.
That is really bad news for a lot of people.
You know, I think it's really important for me to say this.
All I'm trying to provide you with here is the scientific data so that people listening can make an informed choice.
I don't want to sound puritanical.
You know, life is to be lived to an extent.
It's all about sort of checks and balances.
So just keep this information in mind, but also, you know, just be relaxed about some things too.
Okay, so now the day is coming to an end.
And the last habit you might want to think about changing has to do
with what you bring to bed with you. So I've got my laptop, I've got my iPhone, maybe I've got my
iPad with me, I'm going to send one more work email, maybe binge on the last episode of my
favorite show. What is wrong with this picture? So what's happening there is essentially you're just creating a state of stress
and that state of stress sort of translates biologically or physiologically to an activation
of what's called your fight or flight branch of the nervous system. And it's that branch of the
nervous system that actually needs to switch off for you to be able to fall asleep. Well, maybe I just want to read my novel on my iPad.
I mean, that's not stressful, but I've heard that this blue light can be a problem.
Is it?
What we found with studies with one hour of iPad reading
versus one hour of just reading in dim light with just a paper book,
the iPad actually blocked the release of melatonin by 50%,
5-0. So you halved the amount of sleep timing chemical within the brain.
Wow, that's really surprising. Was that surprising to you?
Yeah, it was surprising. I think that the more surprising result was the timing of it.
It wasn't just that the peak of the melatonin was blunted, but when that spike
of melatonin arrived was actually three hours later into the night. In other words, all those
devices in your bedroom can delay the onset of your sleep. And what you're really trying to do
is wind down. So before you put your head on your pillow tonight, remember,
falling asleep is a kind of complicated biological process and it takes some time.
So now your day really has come to an end.
And Matthew Walker says you really want to aim to give yourself that eight hour window every night.
He says, think of it this way.
We evolved to sleep. Every species that it this way. We evolved to sleep.
Every species that we've studied to date appears to sleep. What that means is that sleep probably
evolved with life itself on this planet. And from that point forward, it has heroically fought its
way through every step along the evolutionary pathway. That must mean that if sleep does not serve an absolutely vital set of functions,
then it is the biggest mistake
that the evolutionary process has ever made.
And if that doesn't make it seem important,
what possibly could?
So remember, you want to tweak your habits during the day.
It really can make getting that sleep you need at night
a little easier.
So, you ready to make a change?
Let's recap what we've learned.
Takeaway number one, start the day with a splash of sunlight.
There is good evidence that morning exposure to daylight helps you sleep better.
You get more consistent sleep and the quality of that sleep tends to be better as well.
So, get that good morning daylight.
Takeaway number two, don't overdo the caffeine.
It can interrupt your sleep, even if you don't notice it.
Trying to cut caffeine off somewhere between 12 to 14 hours
before you expect to go to bed is a fantastic rule of thumb.
Takeaway number three, exercise can increase the quantity and the quality of your sleep.
Exercise during the day, as long as it's not too close to sleep at night, is sleep promoting.
And when you get good sleep, you are far more likely to exercise the following day as well.
It's a golden reciprocal loop.
And takeaway number four, you might want to cut out the nightcap.
It's a hard piece of advice. It makes me deeply unpopular.
But sound sleep usually comes after a night of of advice. It makes me deeply unpopular, but sound sleep usually comes after
a night of no alcohol. And finally, at bedtime, get those devices out of your bedroom. Try to
avoid screens and screen time at least an hour before bed. And if you can keep those devices
out of the room. Instead, try reading an old fashioned book, you know, the kind printed on
paper. That's it for this episode of Life Kit.
Be sure to check out our next episode. It's about rituals for falling asleep. We'll talk about
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