Life Kit - How to have a healthy relationship with caffeine

Episode Date: January 25, 2024

Worry you're drinking too much coffee, tea, soda or energy drinks? A gastroenterologist and a caffeine researcher share surprising insights about the psychoactive drug — and explain why caffeine may... not deserve its bad reputation. This episode originally aired on March 7, 2023.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Life Kit from NPR. Hey everybody, this is Liana Maria Perciris in for Mariel Seguera. Do you remember when your relationship with caffeine began? Reporter Andy Tegel knows exactly when hers started. So I worked a graveyard shift my sophomore year in college, and it was my duty from 9 o'clock at night to 6 o'clock in the morning to sit at a desk at the front of the dorms and check the IDs of everyone who entered the building. So I was essentially hall monitor, not a whole lot to it. Great gig to get your homework done.
Starting point is 00:00:34 The hardest part of the job, Lily, was just staying awake. Lucky for me, my cute little hall monitor desk sat right next to a vending machine stocked high with energy drinks. And that's how my relationship with Monster Zero Ultra, that's the white and silver can for fellow enthusiasts, began. From that summer on, before every test, every deadline, every big interview, Andy says she felt like she needed energy drinks to perform. It was so much a part of her routine, it kind of became a personality trait. Even if Andy's drink of choice, Monster Zero Ultra, isn't your go-to,
Starting point is 00:01:13 if you drink anything with caffeine, you can probably relate. On this episode of Life Kit, Andy busts some myths about caffeine and why it affects folks differently so you can have a healthy relationship with your morning coffee. A 2022 survey reported that 93% of American adults consume caffeine. Of those, 75% consume caffeine at least once a day. So it's safe to say a bunch of us are stuck on the sauce. But what does that mean
Starting point is 00:01:47 for us exactly? Some people, they might think that they need to cut back because they don't like the idea of feeling that they're addicted to something, or they just think that overall there's, it's better for their health to cut back on caffeine. Any of those feelings familiar? Personally, I've gotten a ton of grief from friends and family about all those monsters. And there's a lot of confusing media out there suggesting that caffeine consumption is something to be curbed, cut out entirely, even feared. But I've got some news for you. Caffeine is not the enemy. Caffeine has a lot of benefits for the average person, including in the areas that you would have imagined it didn't. It's true.
Starting point is 00:02:31 In general, when used correctly, caffeine is your friend, not your foe, and has a lot of positive effects to offer you. For one, caffeine is thought to protect your liver from cirrhosis and other liver diseases. Coffee consumption reduces your risk of type 2 diabetes. It's thought that for every one cup of coffee you drink, there's a 3% decreased risk in arrhythmia. For women, caffeine is associated with lower stroke risk.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Coffee and caffeine reduces risk of Parkinson's disease. We use caffeine to treat, of course, migraine headaches and other types of headache, and the list goes on and on. So in this episode of Life Kit, understanding our pal caffeine. We'll learn how caffeine works and why its effect varies from person to person. We'll do some more myth busting, and we'll learn how to make sure that your relationship with that Joe is a healthy one. A quick note up front, friends. This episode features vetted medical research, but should not be taken as blanket medical advice. Responsibly consumed caffeine is beneficial for a lot of people, but there are certain populations, like children, pregnant people, or people trying to get pregnant, those with certain medical conditions, or people who take certain medications, who should abstain from or reduce their caffeine consumption.
Starting point is 00:03:55 You should always speak to your doctor if you have questions about your specific needs. Okay, first things first, what are we working with exactly? Before we can determine the role caffeine should play in our lives, we need to understand what exactly caffeine is and how it works. To do that, I've called in some help. My name is Ugo Iroku. I'm a gastroenterologist in New York City and also associate professor at Mount Sinai Hospital, Division of Gastroenterology.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Where is Dr. Ugo on the caffeine obsession scale? I am not a caffeine lover. I'm a caffeine observer. As a gastroenterologist, Dr. Ugo is often the person who has to tell his patients they need to alter or limit their relationship with caffeine. It makes me very unpopular, which is why I always try to be practical. And I don't take it away. I just modify the amount that they intend to incorporate into their baseline going forward. Before we get to baselines and modifications, coffee. Takeaway one, understand what's in your cup. So caffeine is a compound that exists in a number of plants, probably over 60 worldwide.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And it also exists in our coffee beans and tea leaves, in kola nuts and cacao. Caffeine is a naturally occurring stimulant. That means when it's absorbed into the body, it helps stimulate the brain and the central nervous system, essentially speeding up the message between your head and the rest of your body. It does that by blocking something called adenosine. So this is where you pause the story to say, well, what is adenosine? And adenosine, interestingly enough, is a byproduct of the energy source in our body.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So we run off of an energy source called ATP. That stands for adenosine triphosphate. And with the continued use of the ATP, adenosine is like a little marker saying, hey, yet another unit of energy has been dispensed. When the neurotransmitter adenosine has sent out enough of those little used energy messages, you get drowsy and your body slows down. So what caffeine does is get in adenosine's way, stopping it from delivering those messages to the adenosine receptors that are waiting for that signal for the body to rest. And so it creates a situation where we have increased amount of alertness and decreased
Starting point is 00:06:16 amount of drowsiness. And so caffeine doesn't give us energy, but it gives us more alertness by blocking adenosine's message to tell us to slow down and to go to sleep. Okay, pause here. Product marketing has told us over and over again that caffeine equals energy, but... That's a myth because caffeine in and of itself does not give you energy. Now, there are plenty of energy-like things that caffeine does for you that I'm sure I don't have to spell out, but will for good measure. It makes you more alert and focused. Some studies have also shown that it can improve mood, cognitive and athletic performance, even potentially increase metabolism. But all of these effects are not the same thing as providing actual energy to your body.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Only food can do that. Why is this important to know? Because Dr. Ugo says that far too often, people try to use caffeine as a substitute for adequate rest and nutrition. I know I'm guilty of that. Unfortunately, that's just not how it works. Caffeine can never make up for a poor night's sleep. The only thing that can make up for a poor night's sleep is more sleep. And that 3 p.m. coffee? It might help you get through your afternoon hump, but it's important to know that that tired feeling will likely boomerang back to you later on in your day. Because remember, caffeine doesn't get rid of those sleepy signals, it just holds them off a while. So caffeine is cool, but you'll still need your fruit, your veggies, and your bedtime.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And while we're on the topic of diet, there's probably another caffeine reputation you're familiar with. One effect that some people report is that when they consume coffee, they feel that they have an increased amount of desire to go to the bathroom and to move their bowels. Coffee specifically is a common tool for keeping people regular, but some research suggests caffeine in general might help get you moving too. You might have also heard that caffeine is a diuretic, and that's true, but it's a mild one. Essentially, caffeine can, in moderate amounts, cause a moderate amount of desire to have a urine output. And so, you know, put roughly, I think, 300 milligrams of caffeine
Starting point is 00:08:26 might induce about four fluid ounces of urine in general. So you can make of that what you will. Or if you want to know more about hydration, head over to our Life Kit episode on the topic. The next thing you need to know about caffeine, like I mentioned at the start, caffeine is usually not the bad guy. Takeaway two, caffeine isn't your enemy.
Starting point is 00:08:49 It has a PR problem. You've heard the whispers before. Caffeine stunts your growth, causes heart disease, dehydrates you. See it clear, say the headlines. But these rumors just don't ring true for the vast majority of us. How did we get here? Pull up a cold brew and let's get into it. Marilyn Cornelis is an associate professor at Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I do research in nutrition, genetics, and a special interest in coffee and caffeine health. Marilyn says caffeine often cozies up with bad actors. And that confuses people. Consuming a lot of caffeine is often equated with someone who's really stressed out and working hard. And some of those other behaviors are actually more greater risk factors for health. And so it becomes what we call a confounder in some of this research. So caffeine has a serious case of guilt by association. Someone who's drinking a lot of caffeine might be short on sleep. We know sleep
Starting point is 00:09:51 is an important risk factor for a number of diseases. Nicotine is another great example. Smoking and coffee consumption are highly correlated. What's interesting about smoking is that it induces the enzyme that metabolizes caffeine. And so a smoker will want to consume more coffee in order to get that psychostimulant effect. And we know that smoking is a risk factor for a number of health outcomes and diseases. So the more you smoke, the more you'll want caffeine. Another important thing to note in this arena, not all caffeinated drinks are created equal. Black coffee or green tea offer antioxidants and a slew of other potential benefits, for
Starting point is 00:10:31 example, but sugary, syrupy frappuccinos, sodas, energy drinks. Do you have a lot of sugar and a lot of other contents that may not be helpful for you? Of course, we know it really depends on what you're taking with your caffeine before the judgment comes in. Caffeine alone doesn't rot your teeth or lead to weight gain, but too much soda in your diet might. Healthy caffeine consumption seems to promote heart health, but pounding those caffeine and sugar-overloaded energy drinks every day might be a quick recipe for health troubles like insomnia, nervousness, or a regular heartbeat. You get the point. Caffeine in general is not a lone bandit out to steal your calm and crib your good health. But there is one more big idea to consider here.
Starting point is 00:11:18 The idea of caffeine as an addictive drug. Currently the U.S. does not consider caffeine an addictive substance. So your layman person, like every day, they might say, oh, I'm a caffeine addict. And of course, there's always jokes about it, but technically it's not considered a drug of dependence. Let's break down why that might be. There are a number of different factors that can contribute to an addiction or substance use disorder. Among them, according to the DSM-5, impaired control, physical dependence, social problems, and risky use. An addiction to heroin, for example, can greatly impair your judgment and might lead to neglecting responsibilities at home, work, or school. If you're addicted to alcohol, you might feel the need to keep drinking even when it causes relationship problems.
Starting point is 00:12:06 This is where caffeine seems to stand apart from other drugs. That aspect of social harm. Now, this isn't to say caffeine can't be abused, but the research seems to show that generally, the stakes are a bit different. no strong clinically significant adverse effects of being on caffeine the way there is with other harsher chemicals like cocaine and heroin or the like. That being said, you can build up a tolerance to caffeine, which isn't the same as an addiction. It just means over time, your body gets used to that daily coffee and can produce more adenosine receptors accordingly. And if you don't have it, you might experience withdrawal symptoms. And then there's misuse, which is, well, what it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Using substances, and in this case caffeine, at inappropriate levels or ways that could potentially lead to adverse outcomes. We've all had one cup too many and regretted it. So maybe take a pause here and take a hard look at your daily caffeine routine. Is there any part of this relationship that's harming you? Any part of your routine that just isn't sitting right? It's important to know what healthy caffeine consumption looks like for you
Starting point is 00:13:14 and to understand that it will look different for everyone from the surface level to the cellular. And that brings us to takeaway number three. Learn your levels. Have you ever been scolded for your venti matcha latte? Given that judgmental eye when you get up for that second cup of coffee or crack open that early morning energy drink? Been there. And Marilyn has some information that might help. For her postdoctoral work at the Harvard School of Public Health, Marilyn studied the relationships between the human genome and our coffee and caffeine consumption. We found that genetic variants that were related to increased caffeine metabolism were also related to increased caffeine consumption behavior. So if an individual was genetically predisposed to metabolize caffeine very quickly, we found that they tended to consume more caffeine.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Marilyn's research found that our appetite and tolerance for caffeine is written in our genetic code. So I might naturally be more of a one coffee a day person, and you might be more of the three coffee a day person and you might be more of the three coffee type. Neither is good or bad. You just respond differently to caffeine. You either have grown accustomed to it and you've become, you can tolerate more caffeine. Our genetics are just different. So it makes you different from someone else. The other cool part about this, Marilyn says that your body often already knows what it needs and will signal that to you. So you're naturally trying to titrate the levels of intake based on your genetics.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Some people get really anxious with too much caffeine, so they naturally cut back and they just tend to know. Any avid coffee drinker, they know when to cut off, what's the latest that they can have a cup of coffee before it impacts their sleep. I've never been flabbergasted by that friend who goes for coffee at 10 p.m. or get jealous of that coworker that only needs a little bit of tea to power through their workday. Personally, I used to love to take a few big swigs of Monster right before laying down for a nap. Don't at me. You might call it wild.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I call it genetics. Now, I want to be clear here. This is not a blank check to take down as much caffeine as you want, but it is good to know the effects of caffeine vary from person to person, which means sensitivities and dependence can vary too. So how can you find your caffeine consumption sweet spot? As a starting point, the Food and Drug Administration suggests a max of 400 milligrams of caffeine a day for the average person. Because this is an amount not generally associated with dangerous or negative effects. Beyond that limit, some people might experience side effects like sleeplessness, upset stomach, or feelings of unhappiness. Again, this measure is a starting point, so it doesn't apply to everyone equally.
Starting point is 00:16:06 But just so you're aware, let's get a handle on what 400 milligrams actually looks like. Most sources say that's roughly the amount of caffeine in four cups of coffee. But you have to be very careful when you're converting from cups to milligrams because there's a cup and then there's a cup that's a Vonti that has like four times the amount of caffeine you'd expect in it. Moderation is key, no matter what you're drinking. Even if you're taking your caffeine in with, you know, a nice, innocent, you know, civilized look, a cup
Starting point is 00:16:36 of Earl Grey, but you're doing six cups of it, you're consuming a lot more than you would be in terms of caffeine than you would be with a single monster drink. From there, keep listening to your body. Having a stressful day so you ask for an extra espresso shot? Your body can give you feedback, you know, jitteriness, anxiety, you know, a raised pulse that you're just consuming too much in a given moment. And what about that 4 p.m. energy drink? Will it mess with your sleep?
Starting point is 00:17:05 According to the FDA, the half-life of the caffeine is between four and six hours. So yes, if you reach for that can too late, you might be affecting the quality of your rest. Likely increasing the risk of insomnia and decreasing your REM sleep. Keep track of your patterns over time too. Does that medium roast just not give you the same kick that it used to? Do you need more and more caffeine to do the same functions? Then that's a warning sign that you might be quote-unquote you're relying too heavily on caffeine to function. Withdrawal symptoms obviously are another warning sign and that can look like a lot of things. Headaches, fogginess, bad moods or irritability, fatigue, drowsiness, difficulty concentrating, all things we want to avoid on a regular basis, no?
Starting point is 00:17:48 And finally, a reminder here, if you have any questions or doubts about your consumption level, it's worth a conversation with your doctor as to how to best manage your caffeine intake. Okay, you made it this far and you've decided maybe it's time to make some changes. We've got you covered. Our final takeaway, takeaway four, if you want to cut back, go slow and make swaps. Maybe you're tired of that energy drink calling your name from the vending machine at the start of every workday. Maybe you don't like being so dependent on iced coffee to get through a day of running errands. Or maybe it's just time to change up your routine.
Starting point is 00:18:26 How should you do it? Quitting caffeine cold turkey is an option, and Dr. Ugo says the worst of withdrawal symptoms usually abate in around 10 days, but... Just empirically we see that half people tend to fail when they try to do a cold turkey. Big yikes. And so I think ultimately the only benefit is that you get to your goal sooner if you can tuck through the withdrawal symptoms. But otherwise, a slower, more tapered approach is probably the more humane way to go.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Just do it slowly. It's a lot easier. In most cases, there's no need to make life harder than it needs to be by quitting caffeine full stop. But what does a slow approach to cutting back actually look like? Johns Hopkins University tried to answer just that question, and they had their patients do a tapered step down in the amount of caffeine that they consumed. Let's say you normally drink four cups of coffee a day. On week one, they'd have you do three cups of coffee a day. Week two, you had to cut that down to two cups of coffee a day. One cup of coffee for week three. So far, you've cut back one cup of coffee per week. Week four, believe it or not, it would be half a cup of coffee a day. And by the fifth week, they wanted you to be down to less than 50 milligrams of caffeine a day, which ultimately
Starting point is 00:19:38 ends up to being about a third or so, more or less, of a cup of coffee. And without using more than 15 milligrams at any one moment of time. I know what you're thinking. A third of a cup of coffee? Or less? Don't worry. This is just one way to do it. You know best what an optimal level of caffeine is for you.
Starting point is 00:20:03 And something else to remember here, our relationships with caffeine aren't just about what it does to us physiologically. Coffee dates with co-workers, tea with grandma, coke and popcorn at the movies. Caffeine is such a big part of our personal and social rituals. These things are significant. Maybe the whole ritual involved in obtaining our caffeine does give us a dopamine hit. So see where you can make some swaps. Maybe you just need a fizzy drink at the movies, not a soda necessarily, and could opt for sparkling water instead of Pepsi. Maybe what you're craving in the middle of that stressful work day isn't that Americano with an extra shot, but the fresh air and the break in your day that the walk
Starting point is 00:20:42 to the coffee shop affords you. Have a weekly coffee date with your bestie? Just swap for decaf. And so you can very quickly achieve a drop in your caffeine intake while still getting some of the other social and kind of psychological cues with having your drink. Whether you're looking for a good time with friends, a way to make that work deadline, or a good study buddy for that big exam, remember, you have options. So I think as a society, it's almost like a contract. We understand that we're using this, we benefit from it, and everyone personally has the individual responsibility to make sure that they're using it properly. Don't be scared to change or experiment with your relationship with caffeine. The important thing is that caffeine should be a helpful friend in your corner, not the boss of you.
Starting point is 00:21:30 All right, I've had a gulp of green tea and I'm ready to close this out. Let's recap. Takeaway one, understand what's in your cup. Caffeine can do a lot for you, but it's not an energy source. Sorry, friends. The only fix for lack of sleep is more sleep. Takeaway two, caffeine is not the enemy. There are so many benefits to adding caffeine to your diet. Don't be scared by old wives' tales. Takeaway three, learn your levels. Caffeine consumption is not one size fits all.
Starting point is 00:21:59 We all have different sensitivities and tendencies. So listen to your body. Takeaway four, if it's time to cut back, go slow and remember you can still savor your rituals. That's Life Kit reporter Andy Tegel. For more Life Kit, check out our other episodes. We've got one on how to up your coffee game and another on food substitutions. You can find those at npr.org slash life kit. And if you love Life Kit and want more, subscribe to our newsletter at npr.org slash life kit newsletter. Also, we'd love to hear from you. If you have episode ideas or
Starting point is 00:22:38 feedback you want to share, email us at life kit at npr.org. This episode was produced by Claire Marie Schneider. Mariel Seguera is our host. Our visuals editor is Beck Harlan. Our digital editor is Malika Gharib and Megan Cain is the supervising editor. Beth Donovan is the executive producer and our production team also includes Andy Tegel, Audrey Nguyen, and Sylvie Douglas.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Engineering support comes from Brian Jarboe. I'm Liliana Maria Perciruiz. Thanks for listening.

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