Life Kit - How to maintain an exercise routine as you age

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

It's important to exercise as we age. Regular movement can help not just with cardiovascular health and maintaining muscle mass — it can also foster community. Juana Summers, co-host of NPR's All Th...ings Considered, speaks with older exercisers about what motivates them to stay active.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A lot happens in Washington every day, from the White House to Capitol Hill and everywhere in between. That's where we come in. On the NPR Politics Podcast, we keep you up to date on what happens inside Washington and what it means for you and your community. The NPR Politics Podcast. Listen wherever you listen. You're listening to Life Kit from NPR. Hey everybody, it's Marielle. I've had a realization lately that my body and our bodies really are going to change regularly. That's normal.
Starting point is 00:00:36 This starts on day one of the human experience, even for the traits that people think of as fixed. Have you ever seen a baby born with one eye color that morphs into something else? Our hair, our skin, our weight, our muscle mass, the way our voices sound, all of these things and more will change over our lifetimes. And that's okay. You're gonna look and feel different at 20 than you did at 10, different at 50 than you did at 40, different at 80 than you did at 70. And there's acceptance required here as we age. We need to do what our bodies are at 50 than you did at 40, different at 80 than you did at 70.
Starting point is 00:01:05 And there's acceptance required here as we age. We need to do what our bodies are capable of in the given moment without shaming ourselves that, oh, I can't lift as heavy or run as fast as I used to. And something remarkable and beautiful is that it's never too late to see the benefits of movement. Becca Georgi is a professor of physical therapy at the University of South Dakota. She studies active older adults,
Starting point is 00:01:30 specifically adults who participate in the national senior games, so they'd be 50 or older. And she says our bodies never lose the ability to respond to the signals we send when we get moving. We can do these studies in young adults, we can do these studies in 80 and 90 year olds, and still we see changes every time. If we tell our bodies what we want, they will respond. She says if you're getting back into fitness and movement after a long time, you do want
Starting point is 00:02:00 to take it slowly to avoid getting hurt. But just little bits and gradually increasing that activity, that signal to our body, just lifting a little bit more weight than nothing, right? And then adding a little bit more to that. Once you adjust and that doesn't seem odd, before you know it, you will find yourself with greater fitness. And I think that takes patience, and that's probably the hardest part, is just to be patient. On this episode of LifeKit, we're going to talk about exercising as we age. All Things Considered co-host Juana Summers did an entire series about this topic, and
Starting point is 00:02:40 she's also been thinking about how our bodies change over time and what it means to stay active as we get older She will be your guide This is Tanya Mosley co-host of fresh air You'll see your favorite actors directors and comedians on late-night TV shows or YouTube But what you get with fresh air is a deep dive night TV shows or YouTube. But what you get with Fresh Air is a deep dive. Spend some quality time with people like Billie Eilish, Questlove, Ariana Grande, Stephen Colbert, and so many more. We ask questions you won't hear asked anywhere else. Listen to the Fresh YY. can capture all that's happening in este mundo tan grande on any given morning. So listen to the first podcast from NPR.
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Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah, we have an Instagram now. It's at NPR Life Kit. There you'll find exclusive videos, comics, and more. Again, that's at NPR Life Kit. There you'll find exclusive videos, comics, and more. Again, that's at NPR LifeKit. See you there. A couple of years ago, my mom got sick. She had to have surgery and was out of work for a while with a pretty challenging recovery.
Starting point is 00:04:40 She lives halfway across the country and something started coming up in our phone calls. She'd tell me that she'd started going out with a longtime friend and taking walks in a park. She was working to get her body moving again. Thankfully, she's doing a lot better now, but that experience got me thinking a lot about how our bodies change over time and what it looks like to get or stay active as we age. And it also got me started thinking about how my own body and my own relationship to fitness have changed over the years. Spoiler alert, they look way different at almost 40 than they did a decade or so ago.
Starting point is 00:05:17 For a long time, I thought fitness had to look a certain kind of way to be valid. I cycled through so many different gyms and workout classes trying to find my fit. It took a while, but in my 30s, I started figuring out what kind of movement worked for my life and brought me joy. And I wanted to dig into all of that a little bit more. My first call was to our NPR colleague, Alison Aubrey. She's kind of an expert on healthy aging
Starting point is 00:05:43 and has spent years covering the topic. I wanted to know more about what the science actually tells us. If you're a person who is 50 or older, what does research say about how much and what kind of exercise you need? You know what the research really shows, Juana, is that our bodies are meant to move. And the official recommendation is to aim for 150 minutes per week of moderate intensity physical activity. So about, you know, half hour, five times a week. Okay, let's break that down a little bit. What does that actually mean?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Would something like walking count? Absolutely, walking counts. I mean, to get to moderate intensity, you really want to get that pace up. You want to sound a little winded when you speak. Higher intensity exercises, running, biking, You really want to get that pace up. You want to sound a little winded when you speak. Higher intensity exercises, running, biking, can lead to higher levels of aerobic fitness or swimming.
Starting point is 00:06:31 That's an option that's easy on the joints. And of course, weight training is important too. So the best exercise is the one you'll actually do. Alison Aubrey gives us Takeaway 1. The best type of exercise is the exercise that you'll actually do. Alison Aubrey gives us Takeaway One. The best type of exercise is the exercise that you'll actually do. Now, this is one you've probably heard a lot if you're a loyal life kit listener, but stick with me for a minute. Let's be honest. Staying active can be a challenge as we age.
Starting point is 00:06:57 We're juggling all kinds of priorities. Many of us are working in intense jobs or we have caretaking responsibilities. There's a time crunch. Plus, as people age, the risk for falling or getting injured increases. But getting older doesn't have to mean moving less. Fitness can be a lifelong habit from the functional to the fun. Here's Allison Aubrey again. You know, I think a big part of exercise comes down to building a habit.
Starting point is 00:07:24 People who schedule workouts tend to do better. But of course, there are obstacles. I mean, life gets in the way, lack of time, transportation issues, work and caregiving responsibilities. So, I'd really encourage folks to check out online programs. Many communities offer low cost or even free programs, but it's got to be fun. If you don't enjoy it, you probably won't do it. Speaking of fun, at the Florida Senior Games outside of Tampa, nearly 600 players
Starting point is 00:07:52 registered to compete in pickleball and for a chance to advance to the National Senior Games this summer. I took a trip there to check it out last year. I met Nick Gandy. He's sports information manager for the Florida Senior Games, and he's been involved with the competition for 25 years. It's really an interesting community of 50 and over people. The stories that I like to hear are the athletes who competed in their younger days, and they went on, had a career, raised families. The kids grew up, they retired from their successful careers, their kids are gone, and they decided to come back.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And they play pickleball or they bowl or they swim. And it's like they're going back to their younger days when they did this with their friends when they were growing up. Ha ha ha ha ha. Now, let's be clear, getting or staying active as you age does not have to mean you're a competitive athlete.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Any kind of movement can benefit your body. Ruth Weil started playing pickleball 15 years ago after she and her wife moved to the villages, Florida. You might know it, it is this huge retirement community. And spending time with her, it's clear how much joy she takes from being able to play at her age. I have two very bad knees that I just keep plugging along cortisone shots, but it's just a matter of getting out and doing it and trying to stay active. My wife, who's 85 years old in January, is still competing in pickleball and she is here today and she to me is an inspiration for everybody because how many 85 year olds do you see out playing? So as long as she competes I
Starting point is 00:09:35 will compete. Which leads me to take away two, exercise can be social and deepen your community. Now I mentioned earlier that my relationship to exercise and fitness has changed a lot. This is one of the biggest reasons why. It wasn't just about finding a type of exercise that stuck with me, it was about meeting people who made me wanna keep showing up. I joined a local running group about a year ago.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I didn't really know anyone doing it, but I pretty quickly made some friends who run at my pace. And even when I don't really want to lace up my running shoes, knowing that I've got a built-in gossip session usually helps get me up and out the door. To see a different type of fitness community, our team headed to a mall in Annapolis, Maryland, where we met a woman named Anita Snyder who's been coming to the same mall to walk for 20 years. You know, knowing that we have people here waiting for us gets us here.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I don't always want to get up and walk, but I got these two ladies waiting for me. That gets me here. Do you guys have like a big text thread, or are you just texting one-on-one, or is it a group text? Just a group text, a group of three. Part of what keeps Anita Snyder coming back is the fact that she's got friends waiting
Starting point is 00:10:48 for her when she gets to the mall at 8 a.m. That's how Snyder met Evelyn Bach, one of the other mall walkers. Bach told me that even though she lives 30 minutes away from the Annapolis Mall, she still drives over before her job at a local gun shop. You get up and you get ready and you go. If it's bad weather or something's going on that you can't make it, it feels like something's missing in your day sometimes,
Starting point is 00:11:09 just because you're always here. Routine matters. So does community. And the benefits can go far beyond physical health and wellbeing. Here's a third takeaway. Exercise can give people more independence. When I think about what I want my future to look like,
Starting point is 00:11:26 I know I want to live the best life I can for as long as I can. I want to be able to take hikes and walks in the woods, to keep running races, to live independently, to travel the world. I want my body to be there for me. That's what 86-year-old Mona Noyes wants to. Soft knees, long arms. There we go. Good. See, but it's not smooth, Emily.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Well, we're gonna make it smooth. Okay. There we go. Good. I met Mona at a strength training gym not far from where I live in Baltimore. She worked at a big school district until her 70s. After she retired, she said she just became less active. She got less confident. And then
Starting point is 00:12:05 her daughter suggested she try to work with a trainer. I thought, well you know what, I'll try it and then I can say, okay I tried it, that's it, we're done. But I never went away. And then I started to train twice a week. In the beginning it was kind of, I knew my daughter was very pleased, but then I began to really value it for its own sake. And now I would do it regardless. What kind of benefits has this training brought to your life? What kind of differences have you seen? One of the things was getting off the toilet.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Because most toilets are low. So at the point when I started training, I had to pry or lever myself up because my legs weren't strong enough. Now that is so basic, but it's so important. Who wants to go to a strange place and you can't get off the john? Do you know, things like that. Walking stairs.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I would creep up the stairs holding both hands. Oh my God, carrying things. Even a regular grocery bag, it was a struggle for me. Now, one time, oh, I carried four quarts of milk. And now that is miraculous. What it was to me. Miraculous. Those are the kind of things I wanna keep doing too.
Starting point is 00:13:17 There's a lot of research about why strength training is so important as we age. Muscle mass peaks in our 20s or 30s, and weight training can help fend off age-related muscle loss. The CDC recommends strength training at least two days a week on top of the 150 minutes per week of moderate intensity activity. But that science, it translates into what your whole life can look like. Here's NOYS trainer Emily Sokolinski. Being able to still do the things that you enjoy doing.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Maybe it's going to the movies. Maybe you like to go to lunch with friends, going to the library, whatever it is, being able to continue to do the activities that you've always enjoyed doing. And thanks to her training routine, that is exactly what Mona Noy's is doing now. But getting your hands around a barbell or starting to run or going out for walks, whatever the thing you wanna do may be, it can feel intimidating. I'm staring at my calendar right now.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Where do I find the time? How do I get over being the new kid in class? What if I'm just not good at an exercise I wanna try? Well, here is takeaway four, the last one, just start. This idea or some form of it was something we heard over and over again from people we interviewed, including Deette Sauer who's 83 years old. Her life has seen all kinds of changes, including getting sober, but when she was 58 an encounter at the gym
Starting point is 00:14:45 changed her life. Then they put up a poster that they were starting a new swim team at our club. And I just showed up. All I knew how to do was kind of dog paddle, and I just kind of fluttered around in the water. But what was fortunate was there was a young woman on deck that day that was the coach.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And when I got about halfway across the pool, I turned around to her and I said, I can't do this. I'm embarrassing myself, and I'm sorry, I should not have shown up. And she said, you can do this. I will teach you. Sauer kept showing up and she went from having only the slightest skill to becoming a decorated competitive swimmer. I wanted to know what she loves about competing. I like the rush, I like the thrill, I like the challenge.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I swim every morning, I get up at 415 and I'm in the pool by 515. And I'm with a group of incredible people that are so much fun. Those connections kept Sour coming back to the pool over and over again. Now, not everyone can be a competitive swimmer like Diez Sour, but she gave me a piece of advice
Starting point is 00:15:52 that resonates for all of us. Starting something new can be intimidating at any age. So I wanna ask, what is your advice to someone who might hear the conversation that you and I are having, who maybe they want to swim, maybe they want to start lifting weights, maybe they want to start walking. They want to start a new exercise program or try something new, but they're scared to start.
Starting point is 00:16:16 What would you tell them? Scared of what? First of all, you can't let fear stop you from achieving anything. You have to use the fear as almost like something to energize you and to invigorate you in order to take the risk. I do the 200 Butterfly. I'm scared of it, but I'm not going to let it stop me. It took me a long time to get where I am today,
Starting point is 00:16:45 but the whole process has been one of sheer bliss. I mean, it's just been incredible. Okay, let's recap all of these. Take away one, the best type of exercise is the kind that you'll do. So experiment a bit, find what works for you and your lifestyle. And if it doesn't feel fun or manageable,
Starting point is 00:17:08 you don't have to do it. Takeaway two, exercise can create or help strengthen community. Find the people that make you wanna keep showing up. Takeaway three, exercise and strength can help create independence. It isn't just about fitness, it's about living your best, fullest life.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And takeaway four, just start. Thanks to Mary-Ellen, the team at LifeKit for letting me drop in. That was all things considered co-host, Wanda Summers. For more LifeKit, check out our other episodes. There's one about how to get into weightlifting and another on how to get moving more in general. You can find those at npr.org slash life kit.
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Starting point is 00:18:08 Our visuals editor at Life Kit is Beck Harlan, and our digital editor is Malika Gareeb. Megan Cain is our supervising editor, and Beth Donovan is our executive producer. Our production team also includes Andy Tagel, Claire Marie Schneider, Margaret Serino, Sam Yellow Horse Kessler, and Sylvie Douglas. Engineering support comes from Patrick Murray and Jimmy Keely.
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