Life Kit - Is IVF actually right for you?
Episode Date: September 22, 2026Interested in having a baby outside of the bedroom? In vitro fertilization is just one of many options on the reproductive technology table. This episode, Life Kit reporter Andee Tagle shares how to c...hoose the right conception method for you -- from planning out your timeline to the financial and legal questions you should ask.Follow us on Instagram: @nprlifekitSign up for our newsletter here.Have an episode idea or feedback you want to share? Email us at lifekit@npr.orgSupport public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening and convenient playlists of popular help topics like personal finance, getting healthy, and more. Learn more at plus.npr.org.See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy
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You know, people think about IVF as this sure thing, and it's not a sure thing.
And that kind of topples people over when they're like, well, I was banking on IVF.
Yeah. People talk about it as a type of insurance policy, but it's really not a guarantee.
Yeah. And it's not even necessarily the best choice for everyone trying to start a family.
Just listen to reproductive endocrinologist Dr. Lucky Sikon.
She's who we featured in our first story on how to get pregnant.
There's a whole swath of women in my generation that feel blindsided and that feel they didn't have all of the correct information.
And maybe with the advent of egg freezing and all this chatter and headlines about IVF, they actually had an overconfidence in how much science can overcome.
And I see that every day.
Well, we are going to set the record straight today.
You're listening to Life Kit.
By the way, I'm Mariel Segarra and I am talking to LifeKit reporter Andy Tagle about the things to know.
when you're considering getting pregnant with the help of reproductive technology like IVF.
That's right. And it's not just IVF, by the way. The umbrella term here is ART. That stands for assisted reproductive technology. I'm going to apologize up front because that is not the last of the acronyms coming your way. What we're going to do today is give you a lay of the land. So we'll break down some of the different options, the general price of those options, timelines, some legal considerations, and how to deal with your feelings as you go through it all.
That's coming up after the break.
No matter your specific situation, I bet if you're listening to this episode, your list of potential worries is a long one.
And on the top, a great big, where do I start?
Or when do I start?
Don't start with the paperwork.
There'll be plenty of paperwork.
Start with the family that you want to build in mind.
This is Janine Oliaga, a fan.
family formation attorney and reproductive rights advocate.
And she brings us takeaway one.
To find the right fertility path for you, start by defining the picture of your ideal future
family.
And then plan your runway.
As in, what's your ideal family size?
When you close your eyes and look at that future family portrait on the wall, how many
little ones do you see?
Is it important to you that the children staring back at you,
actually look like you, or your partner, if you have one. Do you feel strongly about experiencing
pregnancy? I always recommend to start this process one or two years before you're actually ready to
get pregnant. Maria Goodman is a licensed midwife and co-author of the book, Baby Making for
Everybody, Family Building and Fertility for LGBTQ Plus and solo parents. And I focus a lot on
empowering queer folks and solo parents throughout their family building journeys.
Ray's top recommendation to all the people they work with, if the luxury is available,
is to give yourself as much time as possible.
Let's go through the motions of building that ideal family to better understand why that timeline is so important.
Making a baby, we know, requires three ingredients.
Egg cell, sperm cell, and a uterus.
So if you don't have all those things ready to go,
the next step in building that family portrait will be featured.
figuring out how you want to go about sourcing whatever components you're missing.
For example, if you have two uteruses in your relationship or your partner has motility issues,
you'll have to decide where your sperm is coming from.
It can take a long time to understand your choices between a known or directed donor,
someone in your community that you want to enter into a legal and relational contract to become the sperm.
donor or go through the bank.
Let's quickly note for the record, the process of choosing a gamete donor, meaning someone
who donates their egg or sperm cells, could probably have an episode all its own.
Because Maria says a lot of people can get really stuck in this part of the process.
But since we're only dreaming for now, here's a way to start narrowing down your options.
Choose your five most compelling, rank them one through five, and then let your top three guide you.
Once you have those sorted, you have to actually go and find that donor.
If you go through a sperm or egg bank, the process can be quick once you made a decision.
Like three to five business days type quick.
Going the fresh route can take much longer.
anywhere from a few weeks to half a year, depending on who or what you're looking for.
Plus getting all the necessary testing done and contracts written up.
And if you need a gestational surrogate, you can plan to tack on anywhere from a few more months to a few years to find the right match.
And when you've made it through all of that, it's time to prepare physically.
Let's note, this might be a more extensive process for some than simply tracking your cycle.
So I work with a lot of trans men who decide that they want to carry a pregnancy.
And we know from some small but well done studies that it takes about three to four months for people going off of gender affirming hormone therapy to return to ovulation and be able to conceive.
And before doing that, we strongly recommend.
setting up major support systems because it can be a big emotional undertaking.
Now, we're only talking hypotheticals, but you can see how quickly the time can start to add up,
right? And we haven't gotten to the procedures yet, which brings us to takeaway to,
which A-R-T is right for Y-O-U.
There's so many different paths to parenthood.
different means, gestational surrogacy, egg donation. So there is no one way to become a parent.
Generally speaking, finding the right path will depend on a few different factors.
Primarily, age, health, and budget. We'll start with age. Let's say you and your partner are
both currently 38. And that future family portrait features two, maybe three, per
perfect, precocious little ones, all with matching PJs and one of their grandma's curly locks.
Here's Dr. Lucky Sikon again.
The American Society for Reproductive Medicine says, if you're 38 and older and you know you want to have two children and you haven't started that journey yet, it's very reasonable to consider interventions like IVF to freeze embryos given what we know about how fast the biological clock begins to tick.
oh, the biological clock.
You might have heard that this clock starts ticking around age 35.
Lucky says there's no on-off switch like that, but 35 for people with uteruses is considered
somewhat of a turning point.
So if you were to map out on a chart the health of your egg cells through your lifespan,
age 35 is when you start to see a downward slope.
because the proteins that keep the chromosomes in egg cells lined up correctly slowly begin to break down with age.
But I want to say that nobody has perfect eggs. Even in our 20s, 20 to 25 percent of embryos will have missing or extra DNA.
And that increases to about maybe a third of them at 35.
By 37 or 38, your odds are more like 50-50.
and by age 40 the split is 70-30 meaning up to 70% of the time an egg cell will have missing or extra DNA so it's going to be harder to have a viable pregnancy naturally
your number of eggs also decreases with time and starts to decrease more rapidly around you guessed it age 35 and this
can be true of sperm quality too, by the way. So you want to take all of this into consideration
before choosing a treatment option. If you're on the younger side, like mid to late 20s, and you know
you want to have a family, but maybe later down the line, Lucky says it might be worth exploring
freezing eggs or embryos now, if you can, or sooner rather than later. It's kind of like giving
yourself a head start should you ever need IVF because the egg count and quality decreasing
can make it harder even with the best of technology to overcome infertility.
If you're on the young side or somewhere in between, say early 30s, but you don't have
a ton of disposable income or you don't like the idea of lots of needles.
There are less medicalized ways to go about the process.
Maraya is a practitioner of at-home intrauterine insemination, or IUI, which is a far less involved,
less invasive method of trying to conceive than IVF. With IUI, a sperm sample is collected and then
washed, so only high-quality sperm are left. That sperm is then inserted into the uterus
using a catheter during ovulation. It's a more budget-friendly option and is a
more likely to be covered by insurance, but it also has a lower success rate than IVF at any age.
One study, for example, clock the pregnancy rate for patients under 30 as 52.3% for IVF, while IUI yielded 39.2%.
So if you're older than 35 and you've been trying for more than six months, or if budget isn't a concern and you want to go straight,
for the best odds, maybe you do head straight to your nearest IVF doc.
But you should know that there are trade-offs.
In vitro fertilization involves surgical procedures, daily hormone injections, and monitoring
over a period of four to six weeks per cycle, all of which come with separate price tags.
And while it's an effective option for many people, not everyone will be a candidate.
for IVF. If you suffer from certain high-risk health conditions like severe heart or lung
disease, for example, severe mental health disorders, or are past a certain age and unwilling
to use donor gametes, you might not qualify for treatment. And with all of these options,
it's important to note that many people don't get pregnant on the first go. So it's important
to build in buffer time, not to mention an emotional and financial buffer for multiple tries.
Moraya says they often help their clients to come up with a loose plan based on their ideal.
And that usually involves three to four tries with a certain method and then changing something.
So changing either the method of conception, the donor sperm.
It can be a winding journey and we don't know what options are going to
make the most sense until we're there. After the break, let's talk that baby making budget.
Okay, so maybe now we have an idea of what the path ahead could look like. The dream is
hazy at the edges, but it's starting to take form. Now it's time for an ice cold bucket of
reality. So we typically say an average IVF baby costs $70,000.
This is Angela Rastigar, the co-founder and CEO of Sunfish, a fertility financing company.
Before starting her business, she worked for another large fertility firm where she was tasked with helping clients understand the full cost of becoming parents.
People would cry to me on the phone or, you know, sell their engagement rang or dip into their 401k.
And it was just really breaking my heart to see people making.
these very difficult financial decisions.
Takeaway three.
Becoming a parent through A.R.T.
Can be a big investment.
Understand the full financial picture before you sign on any dotted lines.
The first bit, retrieving and freezing the eggs, assuming they're your own.
That's typically between $8,000 to $15,000 or so plus medication.
you're going to need different medications just to retrieve them.
If you're going to go through a full cycle, so you're going to fertilize those eggs and sperm, test the embryos, and then transfer them to a uterus.
We typically see an IVF cycle costs about $25,000 plus medication, which is typically another $5,000 to $10,000.
And each time you do another embryo transfer, that usually costs another $4,000 to $7,000 or so.
So you have to pay for that each time.
And it takes most people a few attempts to go through that whole process.
And if you don't have all your own ingredients, don't forget, you'll have a few more things to add to your shopping cart.
Donor sperm, $1,500 to $2,000 each.
Don't forget to multiply by four.
to six attempts on average for people with no known fertility issues.
Donor egg.
Anywhere from 6,000 to up to I've seen 50,000.
And if you need a surrogate, anywhere from 150,000 to 200,000.
I know the numbers are scary to go into.
Now, at this point, you might be wondering, where does insurance come in?
Insurance benefits are growing. Some employers have benefits. We currently estimate about 42% of treatments are covered by some sort of insurance or benefits. So 42% that means the other 58% are paying totally out of pocket.
So that's, you know, not great. In some cases, insurers might require you to start with certain procedures before covering others. For example, you might always.
only get paid out for IVF after trying IUI a certain number of times.
So make sure to read the fine print on your policy.
And then talk to your doctor about what makes the most sense for you.
For example, if you're older, if you're worried about timing,
do you want to stop and try that for six months or just go straight to IVF?
That would probably be a conversation your doctor would have with you.
And when you go for that initial consultation, be sure to ask for a complete bottom line picture
of the costs. Including transfers, testing, any other costs that might be included, not just
your first step of the egg retrieval and embryo creation. And while we're on the subject,
another big cost saver is thoroughly vetting your clinic and making sure you have a trustworthy
provider that will treat you and your embryos with the utmost care. Not all clinics are
created equal. There's a ton of helpful information for every individual IVS.
program in the U.S. via the CDC and the Society for Assisted Reproductive Technology at
A.R.t.c.g.gov. Now, you want to be careful when looking at individual clinic numbers
because they're not all meaningful and not necessarily one-to-one, but you can and should
confirm that they're accredited and that they adhere to the guidelines set forth by the
American Society for Reproductive Medicine.
It's also not a bad idea to take a look at and even ask about your clinic's live birth rate.
That information, at least, might be able to make you feel more secure before handing over your credit card.
Because a typical American family doesn't have that much cash just sitting ready to go, especially a young couple.
It's a very sizable amount of debt that people are taking on to pursue this journey.
Remember, you're allowed to get creative.
I have a community member whose siblings started a family building fund at their wedding to help cover the cost of donor sperm or fertility treatments and help them feel like they had support during that process.
There are also a lot of different orgs out there that offer cost-saving measures.
One great resource to get you started, an organization called Resolve, the Nog.
the National Infertility and Family Building Association.
Whatever you decide to do about your finances,
a small silver lining here is the opportunity to have those hard but necessary conversations early on.
Which brings us to takeaway four.
Set expectations early, often, and in writing.
It's important to be aware upfront that the terms and conditions of your fertility journey,
can vary a lot, depending on things like what you're planning to do, where you live, or both.
One of Janine's big disclaimers for people just starting out.
Before you commit to a path, make sure you know, will this result in the recognition of my legal
parenthood?
Don't spend money, time, effort, emotion to find out that a door is closed because the state
that you plan to move forward in no longer has that or has never had that as an option for you.
Currently, for instance, there's proposed legislation in several states around the idea of personhood.
Very briefly, these personhood bills would establish legal rights for embryos by defining life as beginning at conception or fertilization.
What that means is, in the future, depending on where you live, you might not be able to access embryos you've already frozen or find access to an IVF.
center or fertility treatments at all. Some paperwork you definitely want to think about up front,
contract language for any kind of donor or surrogate. The example Janine gave me here is a gay
couple. If two men want to have a baby that is genetically related to one of them, they'll need to first
find an egg donor and then a gestational surrogate. Contracts will be required for both the donation
and the surrogacy process.
And then, once baby is born, both partners can be the legal parents, but one person will
neither share genetics nor gestate the pregnancy.
The law needs to recognize the intended parents, not simply assume that the person giving birth
is the intended parent.
So there's just so much extra planning for anyone who's having a child through assisted
reproductive technology, but specifically for LGBTQ individuals.
One idea that was novel to me, but that Janine says is growing in popularity and relevance, adding
a fertility clause to your pre-up. I don't think there's a better time to discuss it. I mean,
when you are getting married to someone, you're thinking about building a life with them.
Why not talk about, hey, if we have to go through IVF or if we are going through IVF, what do we
want to happen to our embryos? There is so much litigation, specifically in New York where I practice,
over embryos in the context of a divorce.
Who gets them and who's a legal parent of children born from those embryos?
Before I let you go, let's check in.
That was a whole lot of information at once.
How are we feeling?
If the answer is closer to overwhelmed, then over the moon excited,
no one could blame you.
I think it's really important to normalize grief as part of the family.
building journey. Maraya has helped thousands of people through this process. And they say,
they don't think they've seen anyone go through it without some form of grief. Be it the anxiety of not
knowing what will happen or the frustration of not being able to get pregnant within the confines
of your own relationship. But even though your pregnancy journey might not look the same as your cousins
or that friend from high school on social media.
Maria says the uniquely wonderful part about baby making in this way
is how purposeful you can be as you build a life for your future family.
I think it's a beautiful gift that we give our children of them knowing that they were so wanted.
All right, let's recap.
Takeaway one.
To find the right fertility path, picture your future family and give yourself as much
runway as you can. A few years in advance if possible. Takeaway two. Fertility treatments are not
one size fits all. Consider your age, your health, your budget before moving forward.
Takeaway three. Are you willing to go into debt to become a daddy? Becoming a parent through A.R.T
can be a B-I-G investment. Make sure you understand the full cost before jumping in.
Finally, takeaway four, IVF, IUI, finding donor gametes.
They're all complicated processes that come with equally complicated decision making.
Setting expectations up front and in writing will save you heartache later down the line.
That was LifeKit reporter Andy Tagle.
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