Life Kit - Personal style when your body changes
Episode Date: October 7, 2024It's important to feel good in your clothes. But when your body goes through big changes — say, you've just had a baby or are recovering from an illness, it can be hard to dress up in the morning. T...his episode will help you reframe your relationship with fashion — and give you the confidence to wear what you want.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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Hey everybody, it's Marielle.
Today we're talking about personal style when your body changes.
And look, maybe it feels a bit indulgent or shallow to explore your fashion sensibilities
with everything else going on in your life or in the world.
But the way our clothes fit us and how we feel in them
can have a big effect on our day-to-day lives. And so when your body changes, especially if that
change was out of your control. The tiny bit of agency that comes with getting dressed in the
morning and feeling like you kind of know what's going to happen when you put your pants on or
your shirt on and you're going to go out and they're going to look the way that you're used to them looking. Having that gone is a big deal. And like that deserves a moment of validation, I think.
That's Sophie Strauss. She calls herself a stylist for regular people.
I think the thing I realized is styling is this thing that people associate with luxury and wealth
and celebrity. So I thought, well, what makes it clearer to people that I'm for them?
You know, this is a luxury type service that anybody deserves to have.
Sophie's always loved fashion.
She'd often put together little shopping guides for friends.
But she didn't start to think about a career as a stylist
until a friend put out an ask on Instagram.
That friend had a friend going through cancer treatment
and she was
looking for a dress for an event with her husband. Would anyone want to help her shop? And I just was
like, yeah, that sounds exactly like what I want to do. Like sort of connecting with style and
having an opportunity to see what it means in a moment of flux or trauma or struggle for a person and the way that it might be They spent the day together and found a dress for her.
And she's been helping people find their personal style, often in moments of big transition, ever since.
Her only rule is there are no rules.
Style is the expression of your preferences and personality through your clothes.
And all that other stuff, the rules, the trends, the body type stuff, that's not style. That's marketing.
On this episode of Life Kit, reporter Andy Tegel talks with Sophie about how to navigate your own personal style as your body changes, whether you've experienced a big life event like an
illness, a pregnancy, an injury, or just the more subtle fluctuations that happen as time passes.
She'll give us tips for understanding your personal preferences, knowing when to shop your closet versus when to invest in something new,
and help us find the confidence to wear what we want.
Sophie, there are all sorts of reasons why a body might change. For me, it was having a baby. And especially right after,
nothing fit right or sat right even if it did fit. And it was really overwhelming. It felt painful.
It felt lonely to have a closet full of clothes that were frustrating to wear.
When you're working with clients who are feeling stuck like that,
what do you say to help
them get unstuck? The first thing I do is I validate that because access to your clothes
and style and being able to sort of put your clothes on and have them feel right is often
considered superficial. You know, like it's not that important. There's a lot of shame tied up in
both your clothes not fitting
like they used to and now caring that they don't fit like they used to. Both of those now bring
shame and that doesn't get you anywhere. And so I always tell people it's really hard. The next
thing that I usually do is we try some stuff on and we identify like, okay, what does fit? And if it doesn't fit,
how far away are we from it fitting? Is it tailorable? Is it something that maybe we can
style in a way that feels close enough to get you through this moment? So takeaway one,
assess where you're at. That means actually going into your closet.
I know this step might feel hard depending on where you're at in life and trying things on to learn what fits and what doesn't.
What do you have? What do you need?
Takeaway two is a little squishier.
Sophie says to match your clothes and your identity, you have to ask yourself, what do you want your clothes to say about you?
More specifically, what quality is it that you love or that you're proud of or that you're excited about in yourself that isn't coming through when you get dressed right now?
Because clothes are communication. And when you put your clothes on and they don't feel right,
it feels like opening your mouth to speak and the wrong words come out.
And so I want to know, what are you trying to say about yourself?
Not in stylistic terms.
I don't need you to tell me, oh, well, I want to look more minimalistic or whatever.
We'll get there.
But I want to know, I want to look a little bit or whatever, right? Like we'll get there, but I want to know, like,
I want to look a little bit more polished. You know, I'm fun. I'm creative. And when I get
dressed, whether it's fit or styling or whatever, I can't, I go out and I feel like instead of
looking like this, I look like that. And so that's where we start. And then it's my job to connect those
sort of more abstract emotional and identity ideas and concepts to more concrete style concepts.
Okay, you want to look more polished? Well, for example, something I might say is details in an
outfit communicate intentionality. So if you're not feeling polished, why don't we try to find you
a couple easy, ready-to-go details that you can throw on in the morning on top of every outfit
that just make it feel like it ties together a little bit. Maybe that's two nice chunky chain
necklaces that you can throw on over your t-shirt and sweats, and it a good bag and it's a little watch that you love. Those
little things, I swear, go a really long way in feeling like you put on a t-shirt and jeans
because you didn't have time to having put on an outfit. Do you have those things in your closet?
Because if you already do have the pieces to make that possible, let's do that with what you have
here. I also want to be conscious of the fact that body changes are not at all exclusive to
weight fluctuations or people going through postpartum. Sophie, what other body or style
changes should we think about? Yeah, I mean, like I have worked with several clients who are
either like recently in remission from cancer or dealing with chronic illness. So for those
clients, sometimes a big consideration are things like chronic illness. So for those clients, sometimes
a big consideration are things like sensory triggers. So for example, if you have a mastectomy
scar that is feeling sensitive to fabrics in a way that your skin did not feel sensitive before,
or by the way, if you're just somebody with sensory sensitivities in general, which is super,
super, super common, it sounds simple, but I'm like, great, let's actually try your clothes on
and identify the ones that feel good and the ones that feel bad.
And when they feel bad, let's stop and go, why?
I know that sounds like, yeah, duh.
But most people don't do that.
So you go, why?
Is it the fabric composition?
Oh, yeah, it's a wool sweater.
And I used to be able to you know
handle wool but now i really can't okay great maybe we opt for a cotton sweater that's a little
bit smoother and it doesn't have you know maybe it's slightly less itchy depending on you know
the make of it maybe it's not that maybe it's you know what it is it's the seams this has
darting down the front and sometimes that's like okay great well there's you know clothing that's actually made seamless now for this exact purpose like sometimes they're sort of 3d knit or things
like that or it's like let's cut the tag out and you can wear that shirt inside out great right or
let's get you some undershirts so takeaway three get specific scientific even about your likes and
dislikes pull out that favorite sweater of yours and really look at it.
What is it exactly that you like so much about it?
The cut? The color? The fabric? All of the above?
And on the other end of the spectrum, those pants you loved in the store but never actually wore?
Spend some time with them.
What's missing?
Is it the hug of the waistline?
Or maybe just the feel
of the seams on your skin that you don't like? The shape or utility of the pockets, the flare
of the cut, the weight of the fabric. Dial in on those small details and then use those to inform
your styling and your purchasing moving forward. Sophie says we're quick to generalize or to give
our clothes too much power. As in, oh, I just, you know, this doesn't suit me.
And I'm like, what does that mean?
You know, they put on a shirt.
I just never wear this because it doesn't, you know, I'm not pulling it off.
I'm like, what is that?
Can you tell me what does that mean that you're not pulling it off?
Well, you know, it's like, it's not really doing me any favors.
And I'm like, say more.
What does that mean?
And usually, quite frankly, what people mean by it is it doesn't make their body look thinner. And that's pretty much the only thing that people really mean when things
are supposed to be flattering. It's not doing me any favors. I'm not pulling it off. Or they mean
that maybe they're older and they think they look like they're trying to be younger. But those are
kind of the only two things. And so I say, I totally hear you. I'm trying to help you build the skills to feel confident, to know yourself and know
your style.
So if you put that shirt on and you're like, this isn't doing me any favors, let's shift,
first of all, the language.
I want you to say this instead.
I don't like this.
That simple.
I don't like this.
You're no longer the failure.
You're not failing the shirt.
The shirt is failing you.
You don't like it. And when you say it like that, your brain goes, this is subjective. I don't like
this. Somebody with my exact body type could put this shirt on and be like, hell yeah, I look
amazing. So you don't like it. Now let's figure out why. I'll often look, where is somebody sort
of adjusting the garment, right? Are they futzing with it at the hem, at the sleeve, at the neckline?
That tells me a lot about what might be bothering them.
Are they sort of pulling it away?
Is it feeling too tight?
Do they keep lifting it up?
I go, oh, well, hmm, I see you're pulling at the hemline.
Are you not liking where it falls on your torso?
Yeah, I feel like like i don't know i feel like my torso is feeling
longer than i want it to look okay great again that's super subjective so nothing right that's
personal preference you don't have to have any length you want it doesn't matter okay i wonder
if we got that hemmed like two inches and we'll roll up the bottom. Do you like that better? Oh yeah. Okay, great.
You like that better. What if we tuck it in? If we don't hem it, what if we tuck it into pants
that hit around that spot? Oh, I like that better too. Great. Now let's sort of like memorize.
It's like, that's a spot you like your clothes to hit. That's a spot you don't like your clothes
to hit. When you're shopping now, that might be something to look for.
You're starting to get information about your preferences.
I'm hearing a lot of good things.
I'm hearing that style is very subjective.
You just have to be more specific.
Like, I like this thing because of the way that it feels.
I like this thing because of the way that it hits.
You just have to learn your specifics.
Totally.
And there's a metaphor I use a lot, which is that people get dressed and shop for clothing as if they were going into a restaurant and ordering food without any idea if they have celiacs, if they're a vegetarian, if they're in the mood for, you know, something springy and light or something hearty and
comforting if they like tomatoes or hate tomatoes like you just look at this menu and you're like
ah and then you're and then like going into a restaurant your job is like well over there she
ordered the pasta with marinara sauce so am i supposed to order the pasta with marinara sauce. So am I supposed to order the pasta with marinara sauce? And well, oh,
but I ordered pasta, you know, yesterday I had sushi. Maybe, you know, am I not staying in my
lane? Like, you know, am I not creating a consistent image of my style if I have pasta
with marinara today, but I had sushi yesterday? It's like, we don't do that. And that's how people
get dressed. I'm just thinking about all of that. And that's how people get dressed.
I'm just thinking about all of the crew socks that I've been considering buying.
Because I'm a millennial and all I own is ankle socks.
Do you like wearing ankle socks?
Yeah. I mean, all I've ever owned for the past decade is ankle socks. And now I'm like,
do I have to make that change now? Everyone next to me is eating marinara sauce. So therefore, I have to. Is my pesto wrong?
My pesto is clearly wrong. It's time for marinara.
Here's what I'll say about the ankle sock thing is, were you wearing ankle socks because you
really like ankle socks or were you wearing ankle socks because that's what was trendy
when we were growing up?
Sophie, I don't know what sauce I need now. I don't know. I don't know if
I'm pesto or marinate. I don't know which socks are comfortable to me. Let's talk a little bit
about shopping your closet and tailoring, especially when your body is still in a moment
of transition. When is it time to get rid of some clothes? When is it time to reinvest? When is it
time for a brand new something? Yeah. So that's really tricky and obviously
really individual. Right. So I'm going to ask you, is it bothering you to see those pieces
in your closet or is it okay? Because everybody has different feelings about it. If it's bothering
you, I might say, okay, great. Let's maybe find a box or one of those like vacuum bags and let's
take these clothes. We're not getting rid of them, but maybe let's put them somewhere where they're
not in your eyeline right now so that you're not opening your closet right now
to a closet full of things that don't fit you.
Some people, we have to do that.
That's totally fine.
So then has your body been about this size
for a little while?
Yeah, okay.
So then let's build you a wardrobe for this body, right?
Or if they're like, I don't know,
I fluctuate a little bit, but I desperately need
clothes, then we might pivot towards a flexible wardrobe. Takeaway four. If your body is still
in a state of transition, consider opting for a size flexible wardrobe. For some people,
that might look like opting for a clothing subscription service. Sophie says she's not a
huge fan of these services more broadly, but for anyone who's going through big weight fluctuations in a short amount of time,
say postpartum or breastfeeding parents, it may be the best route, at least in the short term,
so you're not buying a ton of clothes you won't need down the line.
Sophie's also a big proponent of shopping secondhand, a cheaper and more sustainable
option that may allow you more room to try out different
styles and sizes. If a client needs to add new items to their wardrobe, that's usually where
she starts. Finally, consider exploring specific styles that allow you more flexibility. This is
going to have, you know, a little bit of give or an adjustable feature like a wrap dress or,
you know, a waist cinch or a drawstring or shoulder ties or it's something
that sits a little bit freer from the body. It's bias cut, which means it's going to have a little
bit of give without needing to be full of stretch. It has this fabric composition. So I have,
it's a pretty in-depth handbook that talks about all of those things one might look for
to make choices in a moment where maybe your body's not quite done
changing, but you're like, I need some new clothes. So then we might use that to guide
how we're shopping for you in that moment. Sophie, so much of your work is rooted in
finding self-confidence and self-expression, which is a great idea and a great mission,
but definitely not always easy to do. Final advice for listeners for how to let go of fear
and just embrace their personal
style. There's two things that I like to share with people. The first is I ask, when was the
last time you had a negative thought about a stranger you saw walking down the streets outfit?
If you're like a halfway decent person, probably like not since you were
a teenager. Because the truth is adult, well-adjusted human beings, we're not picking
apart other people's clothes. The last time you probably had a thought about somebody's
random stranger's outfit on the street was because you liked it.
Oh my God. I love those shoes. Yeah.
Exactly. That's what we do. We're too busy,
right? And sometimes it's not a stranger, right? Sometimes we might be afraid of pushback or comments from a partner or a friend or a family member, and that can be more painful.
And the thing that I remind people is think about the state you would have to be in to make a
negative comment about somebody's... Forget just having a negative thought, but to actually say a negative thing about something somebody else is wearing,
you'd have to be in a pretty bad place. And what I remind people is that if somebody,
because I can't promise, oh my God, nobody will ever say a negative thing about what you're
wearing. So if it happens, it's rare, but if it happens, there is no information in that
comment for you about you.
All the information in that moment is letting you know that that person is not in an awesome
place mentally or emotionally because they're lashing out a little bit.
And that's the only information there.
Our last takeaway, takeaway five,
building confidence in your style requires
just getting out there and going for it.
I know it might feel scary, but the more you own it,
the more stylish you'll feel.
I encourage people to find a low stakes opportunity
to wear an outfit that they're nervous about, but that
they love, right? It's not, you don't have to wear something. You're like, I'm super uncomfortable in
this. Then great. Don't wear it. But if you're, if there's an outfit that you're like, I love this.
I just don't know if I have the chutzpah to do it. Great. Go to the grocery store in it and come
right back. And you'll look around. Did anybody, did anybody point and laugh? Did the children all
gather to stare and point? No. Right. I was fine. Okay, great. And, you know, like something I sometimes do with clients when we've started with a closet consult and it's been really clear that they're really anxious to wear their clothes out in the world and then we go shopping together, I will make a point to wear something particularly zany so that they see that it's okay. And then I swear 90% of the
time what happens is while they're standing with me, somebody will give me a compliment.
And what I tell them is there is nothing intrinsic to me as a person that makes it so that I'm
pulling this off, except that I did it on purpose and I look like I'm having fun.
I'm selling it because it's not like, I'm 5'4".
I'm not a size zero.
I'm a person and I'm having a good time with it and I know what I'm doing and I did it because I wanted to.
And that's what makes my clothes look like I have style,
not because there's like some secret sauce I have that nobody else can tap into.
That's the sauce.
That's the sauce.
That's the marinara.
That's the marinara. We're back to the sauce.
Okay, let's recap.
Takeaway one, do a closet audit.
What fits?
What doesn't?
What do you want?
And what do you need?
Takeaway two, clothes are communication.
So what do you want your clothes to say about you?
And how might that message be different than what they're currently saying?
The disconnect between the two can help you decide how to shift your wardrobe.
Takeaway three.
Instead of subscribing to arbitrary fashion rules or trends,
get specific about your personal likes and dislikes.
Then use that information to inform your styling.
Do you love the feel of that specific type of cotton shirt?
The way that color complements your skin tone?
Write this stuff down and save it
for later. Takeaway four. If your body's in a state of flux, try a flexible wardrobe. That might
mean using a subscription service for a while or shopping secondhand or investing in pieces that
offer some give or room to breathe, like wrap dresses or pants with drawstrings or all of the
above. Takeaway five. Conf confidence in your personal style can be built
up over time. Start small, work your way up and trust in your own sauce. That was reporter Andy
Tagle. For more Life Kit, check out our other episodes. We have one on sustainable style and
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This episode of Life Kit was produced by Claire Marie Schneider. Our visuals editor is Beck
Harlan and our digital editor is Malika Gareib. Megan Cain is our supervising editor, and Beth Donovan is our executive producer.
Our production team also includes Margaret Serino and Sylvie Douglas.
Engineering support comes from Carly Strange.
I'm Mariel Seguera. Thanks for listening. Thank you.