Life Kit - Pick a card, any card: How to get into tarot

Episode Date: February 3, 2022

Even if you've gotten a tarot reading before, you may be intimidated by the cards or wondering whether you're cool enough to learn. Tarot reader and writer Michelle Tea walks budding readers through e...ach card in a tarot deck, shares reading tips and ways you can incorporate tarot into your self-care practice.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is NPR's Life Kit. I'm Janet Woo Jung Lee, one of the producers of the show. If you're anything like me, indecisive, full of regret, and overwhelmed by the world around you, well, this episode is for you. Growing up, my family often relied on spiritual practices to make big decisions. I'm talking drawing tarot cards to decide whether I should move apartments or drop out of school. It's a lot, I know, and I didn't always follow the answers, but at least the cards helped me realize what I wanted for myself and my future. Today, I keep up with the spiritual practice by giving tarot readings. I spent years practicing on my own before reading for other people, but when I first started, I felt like I wasn't witchy or spooky enough to learn tarot at all.
Starting point is 00:00:49 What convinced me otherwise was a book by writer and tarot reader Michelle T. Tarot is incredibly welcoming for a novice. If I could learn it, really anybody can. And it's just about becoming comfortable with the imagery and learning them kind of by heart and in your heart and understanding how the cards talk to each other so that when you pull, you know, a series of cards, you understand how they flow into a type of story. Michelle's book is called Modern Tarot, connecting with your higher self through the wisdom of the cards. In her book, she writes
Starting point is 00:01:22 about the meaning and symbolism behind each card in her very first deck, The Rider-Waite. Michelle also says there are many myths about tarot. For one, some say you should never buy your own tarot deck. They don't need to be gifted. You can, I mean, you know, capitalism is evil, but here we are, you can buy a tarot deck and, you know, you should buy a tarot deck and support especially all of the independent, you know, tarot artists that are making decks these days. Maybe you have your own doubts about tarot. What if I pull a scary card? Or what if my card doesn't address my problems at all?
Starting point is 00:01:54 Well, here's another common misconception, that tarot cards predict the future when really it's more about reflection. Ritual in general is designed to sort of, I think, open up certain parts of our psyche. But it's so personal. There's no, you know, and that's what I love about the sort of current witchy renaissance that's happening. There's so much doing it yourself and rewriting the rules and personalizing it, which is why it's such a great spiritual practice. In this episode, a beginner's guide to tarot. We'll walk you through a deck of cards. In this episode, A Beginner's Guide to Tarot, we'll walk you
Starting point is 00:02:25 through a deck of cards, share reading tips, and ways you can incorporate tarot into your self-care practice. For listeners who are less familiar with tarot, what is this modern tarot you write about and what can it do for someone? Well, I guess the idea behind modern tarot is that you can look at tarot, which is a really ancient tool, and you can sort of like translate it to work for your life today. So it can be really lovely if you're a person that wants to integrate more spirituality into your life or to look at life a bit more spiritually or philosophically. It's a great tool to even just pick a daily card spiritually or philosophically, it's a great tool to even just pick a daily card and have a practice of a daily card that you sort of
Starting point is 00:03:09 ruminate on for the day, you know, or end your day picking a card and reflect on, you know, how that the imagery in the card and the sort of spiritual message in the card may have been true for you on that day. But also we are, you know, mundane, practical humans living our busy lives. And you can also pick cards about just sort of, you know, what should you do with your career? What should you do with your art practice? You know, where should you live? Should you ask that person on a date? Like tarot also responds wonderfully to all of our sort of petty, the petty concerns that feel very important to us as human beings. So, you know, I think to presume that the tarot welcomes you is a really great way to begin,
Starting point is 00:03:53 you know? And I think the best way to do that is to pick a deck that really resonates with you, that seems friendly in some way to you, or, you know, if not friendly, mysterious in a way that's exciting. But you want a deck that you feel like, oh, I'm intrigued by these images. I want to read about what does this mean? I want to look at these things. Yeah. I love so many things you just shared. So if you're just getting started, presume that tarot is welcoming you in and also be open to exploring decks and finding the one that's right for you. Yeah. And you focus on, you write about the Rider-Waite in your book, which is comprised of the major arcana and minor arcana.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Can you just give me like a quick rundown of those? Sure. So the major arcana in the tarot are those sort of archetypal cards that, you know, if you've seen tarot in media, it's probably one of those. It's like the lovers, the devil, the star, the sun, you know, the magician. And they're archetypes. When major arcana cards come up in readings, they usually talk about a moment that is really significant. It's like, you know, more of a peak moment in our lives or like a lesson that's going to be very impactful to us. The minor arcana is divided into four kind of elements and they're represented by symbols.
Starting point is 00:05:12 So, you know, we have the suit of wands. Wands represents fire, the element of fire. And it talks about the fires we have in our bellies, the fires in our hearts, where our passions and our drives and our ambitions live. It's a really sexy suit. It's really playful. It really makes us want to get out into the world and pursue whatever it is that we want. selves and our emotional experiences. So the suit of cups talks about our emotional landscape and the people in situations that, you know, move them. So it's very relational. It's about love and friendship and community. The suit of swords is the element of air and air is seen as the most unstable element in the tarot. And it really is talking about, it's a metaphor for our mental processes. The air is very much like the mind, it's electricity, it's inspiration, communication, but it's also like our inner worlds and how we can spin out and torture ourselves with anxiety, worst case
Starting point is 00:06:19 scenarios, things like that. And then there's the suit of pentacles, sometimes called discs or coins, and that's the earth element. And it's a metaphor for, you know, here we all are on earth. You know, we have the fire in our belly, we have our minds, we have our feelings, but it's all happening here on planet earth. And so that is a suit that talks about our home, our bodies, our workplaces, the places where we are embodied. So the major arcana is talk about real high points in our lives. And the minor arcana is more about our daily lives. Yeah. I love so much of what you said. And I'm just thinking back to also what you write in your book about the biggest thing about tarot is that it helped you stay grounded when a lot of things around you felt like it was moving and it's a way of like seeing the bigger picture of the world and i'm
Starting point is 00:07:09 curious now that we spoke about like the specific elements of the deck what kind of questions can we ask of tarot and is it possible that i could be asking too much of it and bringing too many heavy questions to the table um i don't think that you can ask too heavy of a question to the tarot. I think the tarot is very receptive and responsive to almost all sorts of questions. I mean, I would be more concerned about asking petty questions to the tarot, like what should I wear today? Really just ask one question at a time. Sometimes you just come to the tarot with so many issues and you're basically asking, is everything going to be okay? And you're asking that because you're freaked out. And like, that's a big, a big, muddy, strange question for the tarot. I find that the key to a good
Starting point is 00:07:54 tarot reading is really asking a very clear question. So, you know, say you're in a state where you're like, is everything going to be okay? It's better to sit down and be like, well, what am I afraid of? And do some writing, do some advanced work before you hit your tarot deck. Why do you think things might not be okay? Okay, well, I don't like my job right now. Do I need to find a new job? I don't like my relationship right now. Do I need to be out of this relationship? Once you sort of look at like, what are the actions I could take? Maybe you're scared to take them. Maybe you're not ready to take them, but what are the actions that you can take? The tarot is really a tool for you to be proactive in your own life and to kind of move into your own destiny with confidence.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Okay. So I'm curious, what can we do with the wisdom of the card once we have this reading? Or I also feel like sometimes you draw something or get a reading that doesn't quite click with the question you're asking. How do you move forward from that? Yeah. Sometimes reading tarot cards is a little bit like reading poetry. Maybe it's speaking to another part of your psyche that's not that sort of rational brained part. So sometimes when I get a card like that, I just allow it to be and I'm like, okay, I'm going to just think on this. Maybe it's asking me to think about this kind of energy. And more is always revealed with the tarot. So sometimes something doesn't make sense in the moment, but it will make sense later on.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Right. it will make sense later on. There's a lot of controversy or concern about reversed cards. Reversals in tarot mean what happens if you pull a card out and it's upside down? Does it mean the meaning of the card is reversed? A lot of people believe in reversals and make a case for them. I don't like them. To me, they feel needlessly fussy. I don't want to give somebody a tarot reading and then because I was sloppy putting the cards back, they get a happy card turned into a sad card. I don't like it. And I also feel like it increases the sort of negative cards of the deck when you do reversals. It's like a bad card is kind of worse. Happy cards are kind of dimmed. But if you're interested in reversals, you can try it out. You can look into it and
Starting point is 00:10:12 find out why people do like it. What are some of the different kinds of readings? There are infinite tarot spreads that you can do, and you can make them up yourself, which is really great. You can just sort of like ad lib and pull cards to answer whatever question is in your mind. But there are some classic spreads. The Celtic Cross is a very, very classic spread that kind of does past, present, future, what's on your mind, what's in your subconscious, what's coming up for you, what's your environment look like. It touches on all these things. If you want to know about a very specific thing, like what's my love life going to look like this summer? Or should I reach out to that person or should I not?
Starting point is 00:10:55 I find three card readings are the perfect amount of information. One can leave you wanting more. One card can leave out possible nuances to the situation. More than three can be like too much information to integrate. But a three card reading is really excellent. Yeah. Since you have this sort of daily routine and practice going on, how do you incorporate your readings into your self-care practice or spiritual practice? Sure. I love doing daily readings. I mean, sometimes they can get overwhelming. And if you're doing big readings for yourself every day, you can just be like, what is all... It's like you have too much data and you can't really run it. So I save larger readings for maybe on the new moon and the full moon. Aside from that, I'll do like one, I'll do like a one card pull every day just to sort of center myself. Um, I like to meditate and then pull a card or vice versa, pull a card and then meditate. I like to pick a card at the end of the day and
Starting point is 00:11:56 sometimes, um, try to do dream work around that where I ask, you know, the energy or the essence of that card to reveal itself to me in a dream. I did that last night actually, but now I can't remember what I dreamt. So I don't know if it worked or not. Yeah, but the practice itself sounds really beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, it's nice. It just helps you be more present and more aware that there is a sort of numinous aspect to life that gets lost in the hustle bustle. And I feel like tarot can remind you of that. I'm curious, how has your experience in tarot over the years and your ongoing practice changed kind of the way you interact with the world? Right. Well, it's interesting. I mean, I think
Starting point is 00:12:38 that tarot has taught me to think about life in terms of cycles. I went through a couple of years ago, I went through a divorce that was really profound and unexpected. And for me, it was really cataclysmic. And so I was getting these cards. I was getting the tower card when your life is uprooted. I was getting the death card when there's a painful transformation happening. I was getting the hermit card when you're, you know, kind of suddenly feel very solitary. And I, because of my experience with tarot, I know that like people cycle in and out of these things. I didn't feel like, oh no, I'm in the tower card. I'm going to be here forever. Like I understand that we work through the tower card moments in our life. And then the next card that comes is the star. When we, you know, see there's a clear sky and we're re-inspired and we have a new North star to orient ourself to. So it does help me trust that, you know, bad times are, you know, as transient as good times,
Starting point is 00:13:41 you know, and ideally you take it all with a grain of salt and just know that like, you're just, this is just, you know, a human life. This is a fabric of a human life. Thank you, Michelle. You're welcome. Thanks again to Michelle T. For more Life Kit, check out our other episodes. We got one on practicing mindfulness, getting into creative activities, and many more on health to finance to parenting. You can find those at npr.org slash life kit. And if you love Life Kit and want more, subscribe to our newsletter at npr.org slash life kit newsletter. And now a random tip from one of our listeners. Hi, my name is Alma Stessi. I'm from New York.
Starting point is 00:14:26 My hack is when you buy scallions or green onions or chives with a little bulb on the bottom, when you use them, you should put them in an inch of water in a tall cup on your counter. And then you just trim them on the top end, and they will continue to grow from where you trim them. So you just keep cutting and they keep growing like little plants and you change the water out every few days and that will last you a while before the water gets old. Thank you with the roots. If you got a good tip, leave us a voicemail at 202-216-9823 or email us a voice memo at lifekit at npr.org. This episode of Life Kit was produced by Claire Marie Schneider. Megan Cain is our managing producer.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Beth Donovan is the senior editor. Our production team also includes Andy Tegel, Audrey Nguyen, and Sylvie Douglas. Our digital and visuals editor is Beck Harlan. And a special thanks to Casey Herman. I'm Janet Woo Jung Lee. Thanks for listening.

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