Life Kit - Pick a card, any card: How to get into tarot
Episode Date: February 3, 2022Even if you've gotten a tarot reading before, you may be intimidated by the cards or wondering whether you're cool enough to learn. Tarot reader and writer Michelle Tea walks budding readers through e...ach card in a tarot deck, shares reading tips and ways you can incorporate tarot into your self-care practice.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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This is NPR's Life Kit. I'm Janet Woo Jung Lee, one of the producers of the show.
If you're anything like me, indecisive, full of regret, and overwhelmed by the world around you,
well, this episode is for you. Growing up, my family often relied on spiritual practices to
make big decisions. I'm talking drawing tarot cards to decide whether I should move apartments or drop
out of school. It's a lot, I know, and I didn't always follow the answers, but at least the cards
helped me realize what I wanted for myself and my future. Today, I keep up with the spiritual
practice by giving tarot readings. I spent years practicing on my own before reading for other
people, but when I first started, I felt like I wasn't witchy or spooky enough to learn tarot at all.
What convinced me otherwise was a book by writer and tarot reader Michelle T.
Tarot is incredibly welcoming for a novice.
If I could learn it, really anybody can.
And it's just about becoming comfortable with the imagery
and learning them kind of by heart and in your heart and
understanding how the cards talk to each other so that when you pull, you know, a series of cards,
you understand how they flow into a type of story. Michelle's book is called Modern Tarot,
connecting with your higher self through the wisdom of the cards. In her book, she writes
about the meaning and symbolism behind each card in her very first deck, The Rider-Waite. Michelle also says there are many myths about tarot. For one,
some say you should never buy your own tarot deck. They don't need to be gifted. You can,
I mean, you know, capitalism is evil, but here we are, you can buy a tarot deck and, you know,
you should buy a tarot deck and support especially all of the independent, you know,
tarot artists that are making decks these days.
Maybe you have your own doubts about tarot.
What if I pull a scary card?
Or what if my card doesn't address my problems at all?
Well, here's another common misconception,
that tarot cards predict the future when really it's more about reflection.
Ritual in general is designed to sort of, I think, open up certain parts of our psyche.
But it's so personal.
There's no, you know, and that's what I love about the sort of current witchy renaissance that's happening. There's so much doing it yourself and rewriting the rules and personalizing it,
which is why it's such a great spiritual practice.
In this episode, a beginner's guide to tarot.
We'll walk you through a deck of cards. In this episode, A Beginner's Guide to Tarot, we'll walk you
through a deck of cards, share reading tips, and ways you can incorporate tarot into your
self-care practice. For listeners who are less familiar with tarot, what is this modern tarot
you write about and what can it do for someone? Well, I guess the idea behind modern tarot is that you can
look at tarot, which is a really ancient tool, and you can sort of like translate it to work
for your life today. So it can be really lovely if you're a person that wants to integrate more
spirituality into your life or to look at life a bit more spiritually or philosophically. It's
a great tool to even just pick a daily card spiritually or philosophically, it's a great tool
to even just pick a daily card and have a practice of a daily card that you sort of
ruminate on for the day, you know, or end your day picking a card and reflect on, you know,
how that the imagery in the card and the sort of spiritual message in the card may have been
true for you on that day. But also we are, you know, mundane, practical humans living our busy
lives. And you can also pick cards about just sort of, you know, what should you do with your
career? What should you do with your art practice? You know, where should you live? Should you ask
that person on a date? Like tarot also responds wonderfully to all of our sort of petty,
the petty concerns that feel very important to us as human beings.
So, you know, I think to presume that the tarot welcomes you is a really great way to begin,
you know? And I think the best way to do that is to pick a deck that really resonates with you,
that seems friendly in some way to you, or, you know, if not friendly, mysterious in a way that's
exciting. But you want
a deck that you feel like, oh, I'm intrigued by these images. I want to read about what does this
mean? I want to look at these things. Yeah. I love so many things you just shared. So
if you're just getting started, presume that tarot is welcoming you in and also be open to
exploring decks and finding the one that's right for you. Yeah. And you focus on, you write about the Rider-Waite in your book,
which is comprised of the major arcana and minor arcana.
Can you just give me like a quick rundown of those?
Sure.
So the major arcana in the tarot are those sort of archetypal cards that,
you know, if you've seen tarot in media, it's probably one of those. It's like
the lovers, the devil, the star, the sun, you know, the magician. And they're archetypes.
When major arcana cards come up in readings, they usually talk about a moment that is really
significant. It's like, you know, more of a peak moment in our lives or like a lesson that's going to be very impactful to us.
The minor arcana is divided into four kind of elements and they're represented by symbols.
So, you know, we have the suit of wands. Wands represents fire, the element of fire. And it
talks about the fires we have in our bellies, the fires in our hearts, where our passions and our
drives and our ambitions live. It's a really sexy suit. It's really playful. It really makes us want to get out into the world and pursue whatever it is that we want. selves and our emotional experiences. So the suit of cups talks about our emotional landscape and
the people in situations that, you know, move them. So it's very relational. It's about love
and friendship and community. The suit of swords is the element of air and air is seen as the most
unstable element in the tarot. And it really is talking about, it's a metaphor for our mental processes. The air is
very much like the mind, it's electricity, it's inspiration, communication, but it's also like
our inner worlds and how we can spin out and torture ourselves with anxiety, worst case
scenarios, things like that. And then there's the suit of pentacles, sometimes called discs or coins, and that's the earth element. And it's a metaphor for, you know, here we all are on earth.
You know, we have the fire in our belly, we have our minds, we have our feelings, but it's all
happening here on planet earth. And so that is a suit that talks about our home, our bodies,
our workplaces, the places where we are embodied. So the major
arcana is talk about real high points in our lives. And the minor arcana is more about our
daily lives. Yeah. I love so much of what you said. And I'm just thinking back to also what
you write in your book about the biggest thing about tarot is that it helped you stay grounded
when a lot of things around you felt like it was moving and it's a way of like seeing the bigger picture of the world and i'm
curious now that we spoke about like the specific elements of the deck what kind of questions can we
ask of tarot and is it possible that i could be asking too much of it and bringing too many
heavy questions to the table um i don't think that you can ask too heavy of a
question to the tarot. I think the tarot is very receptive and responsive to almost all sorts of
questions. I mean, I would be more concerned about asking petty questions to the tarot,
like what should I wear today? Really just ask one question at a time. Sometimes you just come
to the tarot with so many issues and you're basically asking, is everything going to be okay? And you're asking that because you're freaked out. And like,
that's a big, a big, muddy, strange question for the tarot. I find that the key to a good
tarot reading is really asking a very clear question. So, you know, say you're in a state
where you're like, is everything going to be okay? It's better to sit down and be like, well,
what am I afraid of? And do some writing, do some advanced work before you hit your tarot deck. Why do you think things might not be okay?
Okay, well, I don't like my job right now. Do I need to find a new job? I don't like my
relationship right now. Do I need to be out of this relationship? Once you sort of look at like,
what are the actions I could take? Maybe you're scared to take them. Maybe
you're not ready to take them, but what are the actions that you can take? The tarot is really a
tool for you to be proactive in your own life and to kind of move into your own destiny with confidence.
Okay. So I'm curious, what can we do with the wisdom of the card once we have this reading? Or I also feel like sometimes
you draw something or get a reading that doesn't quite click with the question you're asking.
How do you move forward from that? Yeah. Sometimes reading tarot cards is a little bit
like reading poetry. Maybe it's speaking to another part of your psyche that's not that
sort of rational brained part. So sometimes when I get
a card like that, I just allow it to be and I'm like, okay, I'm going to just think on this. Maybe
it's asking me to think about this kind of energy. And more is always revealed with the tarot. So
sometimes something doesn't make sense in the moment, but it will make sense later on.
Right. it will make sense later on. There's a lot of controversy or concern about reversed cards.
Reversals in tarot mean what happens if you pull a card out and it's upside down?
Does it mean the meaning of the card is reversed? A lot of people believe in reversals and make a
case for them. I don't like them. To me, they feel needlessly fussy. I don't want to give somebody a
tarot reading and then because I was sloppy putting the cards back, they get a happy card
turned into a sad card. I don't like it. And I also feel like it increases the sort of negative
cards of the deck when you do reversals. It's like a bad card is kind of worse. Happy cards are kind of
dimmed. But if you're interested in reversals, you can try it out. You can look into it and
find out why people do like it. What are some of the different kinds of readings?
There are infinite tarot spreads that you can do, and you can make them up yourself, which is really great.
You can just sort of like ad lib and pull cards to answer whatever question is in your mind.
But there are some classic spreads. The Celtic Cross is a very, very classic spread that kind
of does past, present, future, what's on your mind, what's in your subconscious,
what's coming up for you, what's your environment look like.
It touches on all these things. If you want to know about a very specific thing, like what's
my love life going to look like this summer? Or should I reach out to that person or should I not?
I find three card readings are the perfect amount of information. One can leave you wanting more.
One card can leave out possible nuances to the situation. More than three can be like too much information to integrate. But a three card reading is really excellent.
Yeah. Since you have this sort of daily routine and practice going on, how do you incorporate your readings into your self-care practice or spiritual practice? Sure. I love doing daily readings. I
mean, sometimes they can get overwhelming. And if you're doing big readings for yourself every day,
you can just be like, what is all... It's like you have too much data and you can't really run it.
So I save larger readings for maybe on the new moon and the full moon. Aside from that, I'll do like one, I'll do like a
one card pull every day just to sort of center myself. Um, I like to meditate and then pull a
card or vice versa, pull a card and then meditate. I like to pick a card at the end of the day and
sometimes, um, try to do dream work around that where I ask, you know, the energy or the essence
of that card to reveal itself to me in a dream. I did
that last night actually, but now I can't remember what I dreamt. So I don't know if it worked or
not. Yeah, but the practice itself sounds really beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, it's nice. It just helps
you be more present and more aware that there is a sort of numinous aspect to life that gets lost
in the hustle bustle. And I feel like tarot can remind you of that.
I'm curious, how has your experience in tarot over the years and your ongoing practice changed
kind of the way you interact with the world? Right. Well, it's interesting. I mean, I think
that tarot has taught me to think about life in terms of cycles. I went through a couple of years ago, I went through a
divorce that was really profound and unexpected. And for me, it was really cataclysmic. And so I
was getting these cards. I was getting the tower card when your life is uprooted. I was getting
the death card when there's a painful transformation happening. I was getting the hermit card when you're, you know, kind of suddenly feel very solitary. And I, because of my experience with tarot, I know that like people cycle in and out
of these things. I didn't feel like, oh no, I'm in the tower card. I'm going to be here forever.
Like I understand that we work through the tower card moments in our life. And then the next card that comes is the star. When we, you know,
see there's a clear sky and we're re-inspired and we have a new North star to orient ourself to.
So it does help me trust that, you know, bad times are, you know, as transient as good times,
you know, and ideally you take it all with a grain of salt and just know that
like, you're just, this is just, you know, a human life. This is a fabric of a human life.
Thank you, Michelle. You're welcome.
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