Life Kit - Piece together your family tree

Episode Date: December 6, 2022

If you're interested in learning more about your family history, genealogist Mica Anders says to get creative. Look through newspaper archives, census data, vital records and more. And who knows, you ...may find some unexpected gems in the process.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is NPR's Life Kit. I'm Mariel Seguera. A lot of the time when people build a family tree, they're looking for their famous relatives. You know, maybe I'm the 16th great-granddaughter of a queen, or the fifth cousin of a revolutionary poet. Micah L. Anders has a different perspective. I think really it's the everyday people that make us who we are. And we're the everyday people, so we want to be found by our descendants in the future. You know, we want to be just as celebrated as some random famous person. And oftentimes, it's just the everyday folks that we have the most in common with. Micah is a professional genealogist in Minnesota. I first talked to her for our episode on connecting
Starting point is 00:00:40 with your ancestors. So an example, she plays the piano and she learned by doing her genealogy that she had multiple musicians in her family tree. They weren't famous. They weren't somebody anybody's ever heard of. But that's a really cool thing to be able to trace and identify. That's part of who I am that I got from my ancestors. She says that's what's so cool about genealogy. You never know what you'll learn. That can also be a little intimidating. And I always tell all my clients when we get started, you know, I don't know what I'm going to find. Are you open to whatever I find? Some details might be painful to hear. Like if your ancestors lived through famine or enslavement or other traumas, or if they were the perpetrators
Starting point is 00:01:22 of these things, they harmed other people or stole from them. Micah practices anti-racist genealogy, which is about knowing the full history of how your people came to be where they are. So a lot of people say, oh, my family got land through the Homestead Act. They just got this free land in Nebraska. And they're not looking at the whole perspective of, well, whose land was that? How did that land come to be, quote unquote, free for their taking?
Starting point is 00:01:51 Who were the people who originally lived on that land? How did they lose their land? What were those treaties? And really doing reparations work and repairing some of the harm that allowed one group of people, often white people, to move forward because other people were being disenfranchised.
Starting point is 00:02:11 So yeah, genealogy can be serious work. But there are also a lot of fun things to discover about your family. Today on the show, a conversation with Micah L. Anders about piecing together your family tree. If someone is interested in learning more about their family history, I feel like the idea of digging through all these databases can be overwhelming. I wonder, what advice do you have for people who are just starting out? Where might they start? I think the easiest places to start are sort of the more well-known databases like Ancestry.com or FamilySearch.org. Family Search is free. Ancestry has a subscription, but if you go to a lot of your local libraries, you can use it for free. So I always suggest people start out using everything for free.
Starting point is 00:03:02 See what they find, see what they enjoy. And there's some other great databases, though. The Library of Congress has a thing called Chronicling America. And it's a lot of historic newspapers that have been put online and are searchable. State by state, depending where you live, there are some amazing resources at the state level. A lot of places have obviously a state archives or a state historical society here in Minnesota. Those are one in the same, they're in the same building. But a lot of people forget, okay, there's these national databases, but I should also probably look at my county and my state, and they have some amazing holdings. And with people becoming more interested in genealogy, more and more of those local repositories, as they're called, are putting
Starting point is 00:03:49 their records online and or just making them more accessible to people. Yeah. And I'm thinking about newspapers too. I feel like there's a website called Newspaper Archives. I think I used to use that at one of my jobs. Is that helpful? Yes. So there's a newspaper archives, there's newspapers.com. And then, like I said, there's Chronicling America, which is free. So when you're looking through all these, what kinds of documents would you be looking for? So typically the big three are birth, marriage, death, which I consider one.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Those are called vital records. It's important to note, though, that the most recent census available online is the 1950 census. They come out every 72 years so that most people, you know, are either much, much older or have unfortunately passed away by the time the census comes out to protect our identities and things like that. So I would say, again, census records, vital records, and really those newspaper records that you were just talking about, those are some of the biggest things I suggest people look at when they're doing their genealogy. Sometimes you get things that aren't as pleasant, like you find people who, unfortunately, you know, they robbed somebody or they, you know, were in a car accident or they died young, things like that. But the newspapers really starts to help you
Starting point is 00:05:12 get a sense of who people really were beyond, again, just those names, dates, and places. And now I really want to go digging through the newspapers in Mayagüez because that's the town my family's been from for decades and decades in Puerto Rico. You'll find some amazing stuff then if they've been there that long. Absolutely. Yeah, like I think 100 years at least. Wow. But really, the biggest thing in genealogy is it can be kind of like a wild goose chase. I don't know if you've had that experience when you've done yours. You just like, oh, I found something. That's exciting. Oh, I found something else. That's exciting. And then you don't even really know what you found at the end because you have all these
Starting point is 00:05:51 random little tidbits of things that were fun. So sometimes you have to slow down. So let's start like one person at a time. Let's figure out who grandma is. Once we figure out who grandma is, let's figure out who her siblings are, who her parents are. So you kind of got to slow down and be a little bit more methodical with it. Right. Yeah. Like what sort of things could you tell from learning about your, let's say your grandparents' siblings? My grandma on my dad's side was an only child. So I learned a lot in terms of, okay, what does that like to be an only child? Does that mean she was boiled? Does that mean she was kind of set to the side because her
Starting point is 00:06:30 parents had to work a lot and they only had one child to care for? But then on my mom's side, my grandpa was like the baby of 16 kids. And so I think 16, don't quote me on that, around 16. But some of them became nuns and priests. And so that tells me a lot. If I only focused on my grandpa, he became a chemistry professor. But learning that multiple people in the family went into a very Catholic life. And one of them I found out, again, was another musician.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I actually have her piano books that my mom studied with, and then I studied with, and now my daughter is studying with those same piano books that were from my grandpa's sister who became a nun. And also to even take it a step further thinking about, I don't know what all, if it's 16 of them did, but like if a lot of them went into something religious and other things that were maybe more traditional and your grandfather was the like lone scientist, you know, maybe then he was like, I don't want to say the black sheep of the family, but the like the odd man out. Like maybe they were like, yeah, he's he's different than all of us. I mean, it just tells you about what their life would have been like. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And to note that he was the baby. You know, what does that do? Does he get different treatment? I look at my mom's sibling. She was number four. The baby was number 10. She was the only girl that got to play sports. None of the other girls were allowed to do that.
Starting point is 00:08:00 So she did volleyball and basketball and she got to learn how to drive. None of the other girls got to do that. So if I only studied my, and she got to learn how to drive. Now the other girls got to do that. So if I only studied my mom, I would have one version. But by learning about my aunt, it was, oh, they didn't get to do this because they were taking care of the other kids. Obviously, if you're number 10 of 10, you don't have any little siblings you need to take care of. So in the work that you do, you help people walk through their research to look for holes. Can you tell me more about that? Like what kinds of holes do you commonly see? Yeah, so I do a few things. Some people literally say, hey, will you do this on my behalf? You know,
Starting point is 00:08:39 help me find my family or hey, I'm stuck. Can you do this for me? Other people say, can we do it together? But when we look for holes, sometimes it's as simple as looking at their tree and seeing, kind of like I talked about earlier, oh, one side of your family goes back seven generations. The other side, you know your parents' names. Let's work on that side. You know, that might be the hole. Or sometimes it's just a relative sort of disappears from the records, or they just sort of came out of nowhere. You know, I found somebody's grandma as a married woman, but nobody had any record of her before then. She sort of didn't exist before marriage, but obviously she did. So it's trying to figure out who was she before she became Mrs. So-and-so. When you finally find the little bit of information, the puzzle piece you're looking for,
Starting point is 00:09:31 is there a dance that you do? Yes, every time. It never gets old. What does it look like? It's very much just like a squeal and like a eee, right? Because you're like, I've been looking and I've been looking in the puzzle pieces. I know there's a piece. The thing is, you know there's a piece. There's always a piece because everybody's somebody. So we know there are certain communities that have an easier time accessing genealogical information and records than others, right?
Starting point is 00:10:02 And I wonder, and how do you proceed if you're in a community that hasn't been well documented? So a couple ways. One is sometimes you've been documented, but you're not documented in the easily accessible records, or you're not documented in the places you'd expect. For example, a lot of people think, okay, if I'm researching my family and my family's African American, I'm only going to get to 1870. That's as far as I'm going to get. But that's not true. So it's really changing the way you think about it. being held by the enslaver's family, then they actually, I think, have a bit of a responsibility
Starting point is 00:10:48 to make those records accessible for the other families whose records they're holding. Yeah. If you're African American and you're looking for those records, where do you start? Is there a database you can look at or how would you find that? I wish there were just one, but there's not. There's a bunch of them and they all have little bits. But actually, ironically, one of the best places, and this is not a plug in any means, is Facebook groups. So there's some really amazing Facebook groups right now in the genealogy space where people put out questions and other people say, hey, I know how to find that record or hey, that's located close to me. I can look in my local archives because a lot of the stuff is still only on paper. It hasn't been scanned. There's a
Starting point is 00:11:37 lot of projects that are saying, hey, we need to make more comprehensive databases. Here's some ways people should start making their trees and making them public so people can pull some of these records off of them. But there is not one comprehensive place. So you have to look in state archives, you have to look in local archives. Yeah. And I wonder, okay, so if you can go back and find that your most recent relative that you found on the census was enslaved, and then find out who they were enslaved by can you take it back from there many generations sometimes i would say maybe 60 50 to 60 percent of the time it just depends on what what records still exist because that means somebody had to have paper records and those paper records had to be archived somewhere. And those archives have to still exist somewhere.
Starting point is 00:12:28 God, do you ever just lay in bed and think about like the many records that are sitting in basements? Like, is that what you're literally thinking of? I do because there's so many little local newspapers, for example, in these little small towns or little quote unquote ethnic newspapers, as they're called, that somebody has an issue of every single one of them. But it's just some random somebody somewhere. And then there's people who hold records, and they're trying to give them to historical societies, and they're trying to give them to whomever. And people are like, oh, your history doesn't matter to us. That happens too. And that's even crazier to me. But at the same time, there's
Starting point is 00:13:13 people who are like, yes, please. We don't know who needs this, but we see its value. And we will store it for you. And we will make sure it's searchable and it's online. So if the people still exist, but they just don't exist here anymore, they can come and they can get access to their ancestors' records. So I wanna talk about home DNA kits. I know a lot of people use them. Are they ever helpful in this process?
Starting point is 00:13:35 So very helpful. Sometimes they are the only thing that helps because in the absence of paper records, right? Especially when we're dealing with communities that aren't as well documented, those DNA connections can get you places that paper records cannot. However, and this is my big however,
Starting point is 00:13:55 you just have to be prepared for whatever you find because sometimes you will learn things you didn't expect about your family, like that you have siblings you didn't know about, or one of your parents is not really your parent, or one of your parents was adopted and never told, or you were adopted and never told. I wonder if you have any big picture advice
Starting point is 00:14:20 for managing the emotional side of starting to research your ancestors? I would say be open, you know, be open to whatever you find. If you're open to it, it doesn't hit you in quite the same way because you know to expect the unexpected. And I'd always say, take your time, you know, sit with it. If you come across things that are harmful or hurt, sit with them, take your time, be willing to talk about it though. You know, a lot of people see shame in their family history and they get quiet about it and that kind of reinforces it. So be willing to talk about it. Yeah. And I think it sounds like also talk about the ways that you may have benefited from harm that your family did and try to make amends. It's always so tricky
Starting point is 00:15:16 when you're mixed because you're like, I need to make amends to myself. Exactly. It's kind of weird. It's kind of weird. Yeah, you kind of want to say, okay, was my, because I'm white and black, right? So was my white family, what were they doing? What was my black family doing? And then even just to look parallel at what did 1860 look like for that same generation across my whole family? For example, you know, what was everybody's lives like in that same generation? It's nuts. I wonder because we're talking about the, you know, learning about your ancestors, but then also connecting with them, potentially building a space like I have an altar next to my bed, building a space in your house where you can have objects that belong to them or pictures of them, maybe a ritual around that. Do you do anything like that? I do. I make sure to talk about them. I try to keep them alive through stories. When my dad died, he was one of the musicians. We keep his music alive. We tell stories about him.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I make sure that my daughter knows who came before her, what they were like, what their lives were like. I don't have a specific altar, but I have pictures. But for those who I don't have pictures of, I have stories that I have just found through this work. And I think it's just important to keep those alive and tell them. Okay, so maybe the last thing you can tell me then is, what was your dad's name? Marvin. Marvin. And what did he like? He loved music.
Starting point is 00:16:52 What kind? He loved music, all of it. And that's what made him so cool. So I have his record collection. He loved everything from classical to funk, to rock, to to folk to R&B. He loved it all. He loved listening for the teeny tiny details of, oh, every eight measures they have a bell that dings just for that one beat. He loved turning it up really loud
Starting point is 00:17:18 and hearing every single instrument in the entire band have their moment. And did he play an instrument? He played piano, he played a little bit of guitar, but he was a singer. And what did he look like? He was 6'4", with short black curly hair and chocolate brown skin.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Nice smile? When he would smile, it was a nice smile. It was a good moment when you got that smile. I loved hearing about him. I love hearing about people's family members or ancestors. Thank you for sharing. And thank you for this whole interview. This was great and really informative.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Thanks for asking. For more Life Kit, check out our other episodes. You can hear more of Micah in one that we did about honoring your ancestors. You can find those at npr.org slash life kit. And if you love Life Kit and want more, subscribe to our newsletter at npr.org slash life kit newsletter. This episode of Life Kit was produced by Jamal Michelle, who's also our intern. Our visuals editor is Beck Harlan. And our digital editor is Malika Gribb. This episode of Life Kit was produced by Jamal Michelle, who's also our intern. Our visuals editor is Beck Harlan, and our digital editor is Malika Grib.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Megan Cain is the supervising editor, and Beth Donovan is the executive producer. Our production team also includes Andy Tagle, Audrey Nguyen, Claire Marie Schneider, Summer Tomad, and Sylvie Douglas. Engineering support comes from Andy Huther. I'm Mary L. Segarra. Thanks for listening.

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